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00:00:31.000It is Wednesday, the 4th of February, 2004.
00:00:37.000And my goodness, you've tuned in to a very important show today.
00:00:44.000We have the father of Mel Gibson, an expert on the New World Order, joining us in the second hour, Hutton Gibson, to talk about Well, a speech he gave a few weeks ago to the American Free Press about secession from the Union, the National Draft, what's happening in Iraq, the New World Order, and much more.
00:01:05.000He'll also give us his report upon seeing the Passion that's coming out later this month.
00:01:13.000Then, in the third hour, we have Andre von Bülow, The former Secretary of Defense, or Minister of Defense in Germany, that's Deutschland, and up until about a year ago, when he got off the board to write a book, he was also the head of German technology, the technology minister.
00:01:40.000And I had a chance to talk to him in his home yesterday, what an intelligent individual.
00:01:44.000He's written a book where he lays out the facts of how the military-industrial complex carried out September 11.
00:01:54.000He doesn't say they have prior knowledge.
00:01:56.000He doesn't say that they allowed it to happen.
00:02:02.000And talking to him on the phone, he said, you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe nineteen hijackers did it.
00:02:08.000The evidence, the mathematics, the eyewitnesses, the facts show that this was a Hitlerian attack by the globalists to scare us into submission.
00:02:21.000So, Andre von Bulow, the former Defense Secretary and then Minister of Technology, In Helmut Schmidt's government, in Gerhard Schroeder's government, he's been in the German government since the mid-1970s.
00:02:41.000Joining us to talk about his book, 9-11 and the CIA, and we have information on that at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:02:53.000And if your station doesn't carry the third hour, man, I'm sad to hear it, because you'll want to hear this interview.
00:03:00.000I will probably re-air it sometime next week in the second hour of the show because I know this is going to be a very, again, very informative, very revealing interview.
00:03:12.000We've got Michael Meacher, the Environment Minister, going public saying the Globalists carried out 9-11.
00:03:18.000We've got Andre von Bulow saying it and bringing out the evidence.
00:03:23.000We've got all these former military people worldwide, including U.S.
00:03:34.000We're saying the world is round, and we are the Magellans of the 21st century.
00:03:42.000We have proven it is round, and it's up to you to look at the facts and start accepting it, that the seas are not boiling, that the world is not a square, that it's not flat.
00:03:56.000I will say it again, the world is round.
00:04:01.000No, that's radical, but soon you'll all be accepting it if you'll just look at the evidence.
00:04:06.000When we get back, Bush wants to loan U.N.
00:04:10.000$1.2 billion for New York HQ renovation.
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00:08:34.000The fourth day of February 2004, we have the former Secretary of Defense, and of course up until about a year ago he was also the head of German technology, the technology minister, one of the top positions in Germany, joining us as he'll go over the evidence of the U.S.
00:08:53.000government carrying out September 11th.
00:08:57.000You see, anybody with a brain knows this, and more and more people worldwide are saying the world is round, not flat.
00:09:04.000And again, we are the Magellans of the 21st century.
00:10:52.000President George W. Bush has asked lawmakers to approve a $1.2 billion loan to the United Nations to pay for a major renovation at the U.N.
00:11:00.000The State Department said, Bush, who is frequently derided by critics as a staunch foe of the multinational diplomatic approach, followed by the United Nations, included the loan request in the Foreign Operations section of his proposed fiscal 2005 budget, which was released yesterday.
00:11:20.000Now, again, Bush signed on to UNESCO, something Ronald Reagan got us out of, something Bill Clinton dared not get us in.
00:11:55.000But he does, in his rhetoric, put the UN down occasionally, which conservatives buy hook, line, and sinker.
00:12:05.000It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger saying, oh I'm against giving drivers license to illegal aliens, and then saying last year, well actually I'll just write a new bill that does it.
00:12:14.000So he gets rid of one bill, introduces another bill, and we go, oh that's so conservative.
00:12:20.000And they couldn't be getting this whole agenda through if it wasn't Republicans doing it.
00:12:33.000State running background checks on new parents.
00:12:36.000Now, the statewide federal control database of the Matrix system that hooks into the National Security Agency is going to have your divorce records, your bank account numbers, your directory assistance, what phone numbers you get, your phone records, who you call, everything you've bought with a credit card.
00:13:02.000No warrants, no nothing, and a huge database.
00:13:04.000But also, any type of crime or misdemeanor that isn't even terror-related will be considered terror.
00:13:15.000And if you've ever had a misdemeanor, when you have a child, you're going to get a visit from CPS that will try to then force you to sign documents handing your children over.
00:13:26.000And Bush has roughly doubled the amount of Health and Human Services funding in these last two budgets, doubling Bill Clinton, who roughly doubled it himself.
00:13:37.000That was one of the few things that grew under Clinton.
00:13:39.000The government actually didn't grow too fast under Lord Clinton, but that's because he couldn't get away with it, because Republicans were watchful.
00:13:46.000Now with Bush, well, you know what's happened.
00:13:48.000But listen to this Detroit Free Press article.
00:13:51.000I actually look at the law, it's much worse than what they say, but listen to this.
00:13:56.000State running background checks on new parents!
00:14:05.000A new state program intended to protect newborn babies runs background checks on their parents to determine whether they have a history of child abuse that resulted in termination of the parental rights.
00:14:43.000The Family Independence Agency, when the official CPS textbooks say their job is to break up the family, we've read those on air.
00:14:52.000Quote, we want to identify those parents who have been abusive in the past and try to head off any possible incidents of future abuse.
00:14:59.000By the way, the law is written where you got in a fight with your wife, you threw some stuff, she threw some stuff, she called the cops, your neighbors did, somebody goes to jail, well now they're going to take your children too.
00:15:12.000By the way, CPS is five more times likely to abuse children.
00:15:16.000Again, the abusers are the ones where there's no oversight and they run things.
00:15:20.000The program, which has been in place since March 7th, is designed to fill gaps in the state's child protection system.
00:15:27.000Say a parent has his or her rights terminated, then they move to another county and has another child, there's no way for the local authorities to know the history, said Michael Foley, Executive Director of Children's Charter for the Courts of Michigan, a child and family advocacy group.
00:15:47.000will gather information on about 144,000 newborns per year from the Department of Community Health and Search, or MATCHES, weekly against its own database of 34,000 parents whose rights have been terminated.
00:15:59.000From there, the information will be forwarded to local F.I.A.
00:16:02.000offices, which will make sure that the MATCHES are legitimate.
00:16:15.000Some critics worry about the ability of large state agencies to keep their information up to date.
00:16:20.000Others say the entire idea sounds as if Big Brother is now looking into homes and hospitals.
00:16:27.000By the way, we've had doctors on the show.
00:16:29.000We've read the mainstream reports here on the broadcast.
00:16:33.000A large percentage of marijuana, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, painkiller drug tests.
00:16:40.000When they take your blood, they don't tell you that they're about to violate your Fourth and Fifth Amendment, that they're doing a criminal investigation.
00:16:48.000If any drugs are found, they take your child.
00:16:52.000Now, the statistics are that in many of these tests, up to half of them are false positives, and we've had parents on where they run out, go to another hospital, get their blood tested, no drugs, they get the original sample, turns out there wasn't drugs, didn't even show a positive, they just lie and do it!
00:17:11.000In fact, if you've got a poor family and a white baby with blonde hair and blue eyes, look out.
00:17:20.000From Eastern Europe to the U.S., poor family, they get up to $200,000, the adoption agencies do.
00:17:27.000CPS ends up getting about $100,000 of that.
00:17:30.000And they'll come into a poor family, the quote was on welfare, and they do it to black and Hispanic and Asian babies too, but there's not the big market there.
00:18:42.000Folks, the magnitude, I'm not exaggerating, it's worse than what I'm saying, the magnitude of getting our young people, our babies, into their system from infancy to 18 years of age is huge.
00:18:55.000How do you think we've gone from 1.3 million people 9 years ago in prison to 7 mil?
00:19:02.000How do you, oh by the way, the official government numbers are 30 million by the end of this decade.
00:19:08.000Just two years ago they were saying it would be $35 million by 2020, and that's in Road to Tyranny, that clip off CBS.
00:19:15.000Now they're saying, no, no, $30 million by the end of this decade, and they're on track to do it!
00:19:22.000And this is the same FBI and Houston and Dallas Crime Labs and every other crime lab you can imagine caught in industrialized frame-ups of people.
00:19:31.000Dallas just randomly pulls you over, throws a bag of chalk in the back of your car, takes your house, your car, indicts you.
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00:26:44.000I think we can defeat this new world order and the struggle of humanity is always against tyranny and we've just forgotten that, so we're going back into tyranny.
00:26:53.000First time though, you know, I never had a shortwave radio and I bought one and I tuned through and I heard your program and I thought, oh my goodness.
00:27:02.000Because I never paid a whole lot of attention to what was going on around me.
00:27:06.000I was one of those people asleep, you know.
00:27:10.000But the more I listen, the more I pay attention, boy, I tell you, I've never really, you know, and I think a lot of people are just like I was.
00:27:18.000They just go on about their business and ignore it on purpose.
00:27:21.000Well, the question I get a lot at the bookstore or at the grocery store or walking the dog is, Mr. Jones, do you really believe all the things you say?
00:27:31.000Well, all I do is go off the documents, the bills, the public statements of the globalists, their program, the history of the New World Order.
00:27:40.000What we talk about here is documented.
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00:33:44.000Ten weeks running now, saying that the globalists carried out September 11th and laying out the evidence.
00:33:52.000Let me see, we have the environment minister in England resigned.
00:33:55.000Tony Blair's number three guy had said it's all lies and wrote an eight-page article for the London Guardian.
00:34:01.000We're going to get him on, by the way, that's in the works.
00:34:05.000Wrote an article saying if they didn't carry it out, they knew and financed it.
00:34:10.000Now, again, they have simply looked at the facts.
00:34:15.000It's real simple, and I would encourage all of you to do that.
00:34:19.000We're about to go to Randall and Bob and others that are patiently holding.
00:34:22.000The total free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.
00:34:24.000And Andre Von Bulow is joining us in the third hour.
00:34:26.000one and Andre Vombulo is joining us in the third hour. Hutton Gibson, been on the show before, great guy. Had a chance to
00:34:36.000meet him down at a 9-11 Road to Tyranny showing we did in Houston.
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00:38:09.000I mean, my goal is to get the word out.
00:41:09.000I wanted to ask... I'm thinking that if I was one of these evil globalists and I had an agenda, what I would do, if I was able, is to do weather terrorism.
00:41:26.000If I could control the weather, then it would be harder for anything to come back on me because people would say, oh, it's just an act of God.
00:41:36.000And if there are weather disasters happening everywhere, what an excuse to bring down tyrannical laws and enslave the people.
00:41:47.000We know that HAARP can manipulate the weather to how widespread or Large that control is, wide sweeping, we don't know.
00:41:55.000We know that since Vietnam, they could seed clouds and manipulate weather, and that's even on the Weather Channel now, on a show called Atmospheres, they admit it.
00:42:05.000The military was doing some type of weather control test two years ago, they admit it caused mega Flooding in South and Central Texas killed, I don't know, it was like 30-something people.
00:42:54.000The Military-Industrial Complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower talked about in his farewell address of 1960, in his farewell address he talked about how the corporations that had grown up Through World War II and the Korean War, through the funding, through the hundreds of millions of dollars of funding, had taken over almost all of the programs, research programs, universities, had bought up most of the private inventions and inventors and laboratories, and that they had centralized it
00:43:34.000control of the brain trust of Western civilization in just a handful of companies.
00:43:42.000And he said that that stifled competition, he said that that centralized power, and that because they now own the universities, and because the military-industrial complex was buying up ABC and CBS and NBC, which was happening right at that time, That they were going to control all the information, all the technology, and that it was, and by the way, we've aired this speech here before, that it was a foregone conclusion that martial law would be set up, because throughout history, when military industrial complexes, which they had in Germany and England, got big enough, they would always take total control.
00:44:22.000The military-industrial complex is the big companies that were funded and financed by the big banks.
00:44:28.000And the military-industrial complex is the spies, and the FBI, and the weapons, and the research money, and it's this web of corporate control that has quietly took control of the government.
00:44:40.000And in 1947, with the National Security Act, they got total license to kill, total secrecy, unlimited secret funding, unlimited secret contracts to private interest, the same stuff we're seeing now with Halliburton in Iraq, on a much larger scale.
00:44:57.000And so, that's what the military-industrial complex is.
00:45:14.000I had a quick story for anybody who was having trouble believing about the RFID chips you were talking about yesterday.
00:45:22.000I was entertaining a very dear childhood friend that came into Austin last night that works for Sun Microsystems.
00:45:29.000Had a meeting with other major architects and software designers for Sun Microsystems and one of the presentations One of them held up a small vial that had about 150 RFID chips.
00:45:45.000He said about the size of a grain of pepper.
00:45:49.000And basically went on to say that this is the wave of the future.
00:45:53.000So, anybody that's failing to believe about the RFID chips, that's straight from the horse's mouth.
00:48:29.000Three million in London, a million more in the rest of the country, and they say that number is conservative.
00:48:36.000Now the New York Times reported the feds, if your child's going to graduate from high school, will have to serve their last two years, upwards of ten hours a week, at a homeland security computer in your home.
00:48:50.000And your child will have to sit there and watch surveillance cameras around the country and report to police what they see and quote In case your child gets lazy, the government is going to superimpose fake terrorists so clear, they can randomly insert fake video like the Running Man, and then your child, and old folks will do this too, as part of the new national draft, but it says to start out the high schools, will have to call the police, and let's say you're in Texas, you'll be tattling on somebody in New Jersey, crime, terrorism, everything.
00:49:22.000And to make sure your child's on their toes, your young person, they'll hit the button to a larger committee, they'll look at the images, hit the command of the police, the police will have a code number and go, no, this was just a drill.
00:49:37.000And that's so sophisticated, I could talk for an hour about what that means.
00:49:43.000This is why they've had the fake terror alerts and fake terror drills, is to create the subconscious illusion, delusion, that We are under attack.
00:49:52.000That's what all these school shooting drills are about and everything.
00:49:56.000So, it gets everybody used to seeing terrorists that don't exist and to the concept of fake terror attacks on television feeds.
00:50:07.000I mean, do you understand that right there, that shows they can fake video?
00:50:11.000But number two, It acclimates everybody to terror attack, that, oh, there's this massive attack taking place, because there's no real terrorists, there's no real terror events taking place.
00:50:23.000And then they've got a report to Homeland Security.
00:50:26.000FEMA says that all our phones are going to start ringing with a special ring, and we're going to be criminally charged if we don't answer the phone for the automated terror warnings.
00:50:39.000All the radio and TV stations have FEMA takeover systems in them.
00:54:44.000Uh, you know, trying to wake up a few people and, uh, you know, just casual conversations and, and I think one of the best ways is, uh, let me preface what I'm saying by saying that I have nothing against, uh, Mexicans.
00:54:57.000Uh, my, my half brother is, you know, half Mexican.
00:55:02.000Uh, but this is, uh, something that affects everybody because it's, you know, right, you know, they're around us, you know, in our communities and, uh, this guy, I did not believe that there's a Social Security office in Mexico City.
00:55:21.000And, you know, I was trying to tell him about the eventual Pan-American Union, and this is one of the facts that are one of the building blocks to that eventuality.
00:55:38.000Well, he wanted proof, which is, you know, encouraging, you know.
00:55:43.000Well, you go to a search engine and you type in, uh, Mexicans to be paid social security in Mexico, and about 500 mainstream news articles will pop up.
00:55:53.000Type in Pan-American Union, Union of American States, uh, you know, One Union, American Union, hundreds of mainstream news articles will pop up.
00:56:08.000I don't know what rock your friend's hiding under.
00:56:10.000I mean, this has been all over the news how wonderful it is.
00:56:13.000Well, you know, it's the preoccupation that has surrounded us for, lo, these many socialist years where, you know, the only thing we have to do is, you know, work harder to pay our bills and, you know, what can we do to rail against the system, you know?
00:57:10.000Good propaganda just plays to our own laziness.
00:57:15.000One thing I wanted to say about the technology that's now, you know, becoming pervasive, I think, These people, these globalists, are smart people from, you know, from way, way back, you know, centuries ago, and the technology is catching up with their philosophy and techniques.
00:57:36.000They know about brainwashing techniques and mass propaganda, only they haven't had the machinery to do it.
00:57:44.000Well, they've got more sophisticated ways to do it now, and you're absolutely right.
00:57:53.000We're going to go on a break here in a minute and come back with Hutton Gibson, so you don't want to miss this.
00:57:59.000Talking about secession from the Union, the national draft, the war on terror, then the German, the former German Secretary of Defense, the Defense Minister is their term for it, coming up in the third hour.
00:58:12.000We'll also take calls for Hutton Gibson as well in this next hour at 1-800-259-9231.
00:58:20.000And then I'll get into the UN Resolution to Globalize Gay Rights, Halliburton to return $27.4 million to government.
00:58:26.000Oh, they get tens of billions, get caught scamming, then they get a little bit back.
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01:00:35.000Coming up in the next hour, we have the former Secretary of Defense, they call that their Defense Minister, for Germany.
01:00:43.000And up until last year, in his second post, he's been in the German government since the 1970s, in Helmut Kohl's government, and now in Gerhard Schroeder's government.
01:00:52.000He's written a best-selling book covering how the Globalists, the New World Order, carried out September 11th.
01:01:01.000So he'll be joining us in about 59 minutes.
01:01:06.000Andres von Bulow, For this hour, I am honored to be joined by Hutton Gibson, who has a great mind.
01:01:14.000I mean, he was the national champion in the late 60s of Jeopardy, folks.
01:01:20.000And that's how he moved with his family to do organic farming in Australia.
01:01:24.000And he's got 11 children, one of them, of course, Mel Gibson, who has the passion coming out here in just a few weeks.
01:01:31.000But he's here to join us today about a riveting speech he gave going over the right of secession of the states and how that could be a good thing.
01:01:39.000And also we'll talk about the upcoming draft, the lies concerning Iraq, the new wars they've got publicly planned, and a lot more.
01:01:55.000Hutton, you gave a speech a few weeks ago and I had a chance to talk to folks that heard it and said it was pretty good.
01:02:03.000Go over secession and what that means.
01:02:08.000Well, you have to ask, can we afford a lunatic government?
01:02:16.000You know, and it is lunatic when it taxes its own to support foreigners and in general to go out of its way to To wage wars, undeclared wars.
01:02:34.000The thing here is that secession was treated by the Founding Fathers.
01:02:43.000And the fact that it did not succeed in 1861 to 1865 is merely a matter of who had more banks and who had more soldiers and more munitions.
01:03:04.000they can at one time in prison to you maryland legislature so it couldn't succeed
01:03:12.000uh... anyway it did you know that the week before
01:03:18.000nine eleven new hampshire into other states
01:03:22.000had their counties and their select men preparing to withdraw from the union
01:03:28.000The counties from the states, under their Article 10 right to revolt in that particular state, And then suddenly the attacks took place and that didn't happen.
01:03:36.000Arizona almost passed a law, it passed a committee to pull out of the union if quote, a new world order is declared or if gun confiscation begins.
01:03:46.000If the federal government goes bad, it is our right, it is our duty to pull out of the union and then reconstitute the states as a more perfect union.
01:03:55.000Is that historically accurate, Hutton?
01:04:14.000The third thing was that the Constitution was set aside, and we know under Patriot Act 1 and 2 and Homeland Security, that has indeed happened.
01:04:20.000Well, it's been set aside many years by the surrender of delegated powers.
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01:08:20.000And you can see the effect of his knowledge, his information, which I've checked out and is extremely accurate, on his son and the fruits of his labor with brave heart and the patriot and now the passion.
01:08:35.000We're going to be talking today about secession from the Union, how it's a good thing, and I agree it needs to happen.
01:08:42.000By as many states as possible, because this is an illegitimate government in Washington.
01:08:46.000Then we'll get into the national draft, and the war in Iraq, and a little bit into the passion as well, because Hutton has been blessed enough to see it months ago, and I can't wait till I get to see it in theaters in a few weeks when it opens.
01:08:59.000Hutton, again, I mean, your memory's better than mine.
01:09:02.000Talking about the Arizona law that passed committee He had the State Rep on a few years ago about this, and she actually woke up because of Police State 2000, that was interesting.
01:09:15.000She got it passed out of committee, didn't pass the full legislature, to pull out of the Union if a new rule order is declared, gun confiscation begins, and I had forgotten, you're right, the third part, if the Constitution is set aside, and you're right, in 1913, it's not just the 16th Amendment with the IRS, the 17th Amendment, Taking our senators from the states, making them creatures of the federal government, how important is that?
01:09:44.000They were sent there in the first place as the state's ambassadors to keep a check on the federal government, to see that the representatives in the other house didn't run away with the place.
01:09:55.000And they're then placed, instead of the state ambassador checking on the other, they're Put in the same election.
01:10:07.000Put in the popular election where they don't belong.
01:10:11.000And answerable to the people rather than to the state government.
01:10:15.000And to the people in this case means the political party in charge.
01:10:21.000Well, it's just like the Roman Senate, when it got corrupt, they set themselves up as petty dictators, and now they put all the power in the federal government, whereas before, they were creatures of the legislature that was elected by the states, showing that the federal government was only a unit of the states.
01:10:46.000But, like any tyranny, it simply absorbs everything it sees.
01:10:51.000Sets up unconstitutional corporations, like health education and welfare.
01:10:59.000Duplications and triplications of stuff done at local and state levels, where nobody's benefit except to get its own oar in and, say, control the schools so that the people come out of there Having no idea what are their rights, or what is their history.
01:11:22.000And very little of what is their language.
01:11:51.000So anyway, uh... Well, uh... You've got to, uh... figure that they are taxing you and they're misinforming you and so on, but mostly they are encroaching on your rights.
01:14:00.000Oh, just things like how we got into World War II.
01:14:07.000Now, Hutton, Looking at 1913, the Federal Reserve Act, the private banks taking over, taking our senators, making them their own power in Washington, basically destroying states' rights at that point, 1933 War Powers Act, 1947 National Security Act, 2001 Patriot Act I, 2002 Homeland Security, 2003 Patriot Act II passed.
01:14:51.000We have every right to secede and it should be done bloodlessly.
01:14:56.000But nothing else is going to be bloodless.
01:14:59.000We're either going to have a revolt in this country from what they're doing to us or We're going to submit and be subjected to a terror.
01:15:11.000Like the French Revolution, like the Russian Revolution, like Pol Pot, like Mao Tse Tung.
01:15:17.000Every place these people set up, we have a terror.
01:15:21.000They just go out of their way to kill people as principle of the, you know, the mother comes in and says, uh, if my boy disobeys in school, slap the child next to him.
01:15:44.000And of course, communism is a creation of the Illuminati, of the New World Order, and there's, I mean, Hutton, cameras in school bathrooms, cameras in our neighborhoods, our cell phones tracking us, microchips going into everything.
01:16:00.000What is it like for you in the scope of your life to see this happening in America?
01:17:03.000We also have the Protestant leaders supporting the Patriot Act, supporting the New World Order, saying we're not Christian if we don't support... We've already gone to Iraq, that's a fraud.
01:17:13.000Now they say they're going into Syria and Iran.
01:17:36.000And then when the UN decides it's time to jump on us, the UN, of course, being the creature of the New World Order characters, we will have nobody here to defend us.
01:18:14.000But, you know, secession will allow If the governor takes over the control of his state, or if several states get together and form a new kind of union, with the privilege of secession, which is a gun which should have been on the federal government at all times, but has not been since the Civil War, they will be able to withdraw their citizens from the armies.
01:18:47.000Get them back home, where they belong.
01:18:52.000Well, I mean, the Declaration of Independence says that if the government gets corrupt, this is what we're supposed to do, is dissolve the government, and then have the states set up another government of the people's choosing.
01:19:04.000But, I mean, I guarantee you, if states try to secede, the feds are going to get violent real quick, Hutton.
01:19:11.000Yeah, but, as I say, if we can do it without blood, it can be done.
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01:19:57.000But the truth be told, public and private debt increased to a record high in 1999, reaching a peak of $14.8 trillion, marking 10.57% annual increase, outpacing its previous 10 years.
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01:24:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:24:08.000Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
01:24:13.000In the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared.
01:24:16.000In time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
01:24:23.000And a real patriot for this republic is Hutton Gibson.
01:24:27.000Hutton, you know, you've been around 85 years.
01:24:31.000And you have 11 children and just scores of wonderful grandchildren.
01:24:36.000And you've seen the mutation, the falling away, America turning into this high-tech police state.
01:24:42.000You know, there's now... I'd said there were nine bills to reinstate a draft.
01:24:47.000There's now two more, so that's eleven.
01:24:49.000Two of those eleven will be drafted 18 to 49.
01:24:54.000Most of us will have to serve here domestically in tattletailing, federal neighborhood watch, kind of East German type Stasi.
01:25:04.000I mean, they're really shutting this up.
01:25:07.000From your historical research, what does it mean when the government even drafts middle-aged people and makes them dig ditches and tattle on neighbors?
01:27:36.000So we must abolish the debtor, that is, the government itself.
01:27:40.000Well, that's clearly what the 9th and 10th Amendments say, that the power resides with us, but you know that they're enforcing their power at the barrel of a gun.
01:27:49.000How do you see us peacefully getting states to secede?
01:27:52.000I mean, the feds would have trouble attacking Arizona if they did secede, or New Hampshire.
01:27:58.000I guess we've just got to start the ball rolling to lobby to have this happen.
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01:33:08.000what does it mean to be an american I'm...
01:33:15.000America, the United States is America because we have a Bill of Rights, we have a Constitution, we can own guns, we can own land, we run our own lives, we don't have a government that spies on us, we are the government.
01:33:28.000Look around you, that's not America today, and we're not just not America, we are a wicked, corrupt police state.
01:33:38.000And it's getting worse by the millisecond.
01:33:41.000If you say you love America and have got American flags all over your car, you need to know what the Bill of Rights and Constitution is.
01:33:48.000And if you do know what the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution states, and if you do know history, and if you do love America, you would demand that we abolish this alien, corrupt corporation, this organized crime syndicate That is the so-called federal government.
01:34:09.000Hutton Gibson, I got a call in the last hour and the man was saying, what is the military-industrial complex?
01:34:15.000Do you have a good definition for us of this crime syndicate that's now running things and wants our sons and daughters for its meat grinder?
01:34:56.000No one else gave them any more than that.
01:34:58.000They simply go ahead and legislate by themselves.
01:35:03.000They have set up Things like a bunch of extortionists and they call them the IRS by their approval or refusal to see a suit which wants their constitutional status determined or they will allow the government to tax the citizen with his service
01:35:31.000and steal him away, if he gets by the abortion murderers and grows up to the age of twenty or so, they'll
01:35:39.000take him off and throw him in a war somewhere.
01:35:44.000And if they don't get him with the with the enemy's bullets,
01:35:48.000they'll have him misfire somewhere and get him with their own, like say with the
01:36:09.000Well, we've got a bunch of criminal control freaks running things, Hutton.
01:36:17.000And again, for those that have studied history, this is the norm.
01:36:20.000America was different because we didn't go along with this.
01:36:24.000And as you said at the start of the interview, the education is designed to dumb our children down.
01:36:30.000So that they will accept this whole system.
01:36:33.000And look, the Supreme Court has said, people didn't believe me five years ago when I was reading their rulings, but in the last year they've seen fit to tell us that, oh yeah, we follow the UN and the foreign court's orders, we follow their precedence, so the Supreme Court is ignoring the states, which are the body of the people, representative, but they're going to go over to Europe where they're is no freedom
01:36:59.000but the magna card is being thrown out from twelve fourteen
01:37:03.000uh... they're trying to go twice for the same crimes getting rid of juries
01:37:07.000and that's where they're getting their rulings now from hot money
01:37:11.000that's gotta be a wake-up call that all the supreme court uh... it follows what the u n says now
01:39:18.000People are allowed to bring in... They're not proselytized in any way.
01:39:23.000They are put in touch with some of our complete background.
01:39:33.000The whole doggone Christian world respects the Bible, and a lot of people read it.
01:39:40.000Now here we have a chance to get a generation which is miseducated, put them into a position where they can learn at least their history, and other history, Middle East history, and how to speak, and how to think.
01:40:02.000Now, at 85, you travel around, give speeches, write a newsletter, do radio interviews.
01:42:58.000You know, Hutton, it shows what what uh... what we can do work straight and strong and
01:43:05.000upright and and and your life is really been a testament to that you have done so
01:43:09.000much for your life to enrich our lives
01:43:12.000and uh... it's it's it's so exciting we got a bunch of phone calls here hudon
01:43:16.000anything else you'd like to go over for you know the calls no i don't think so
01:43:25.000Just that we have to do something about this government.
01:43:29.000And if it goes, the Supreme Court goes with it, the Congress goes with it, the Executive Department goes with it, the Treasury, everybody else.
01:43:45.000And then gang together when they're out of the way.
01:43:49.000And you know, we have to dare to think like that.
01:43:51.000We have to make that decision and start pushing for it, setting up committees of correspondence in all 50 states to move to restore the Republic.
01:44:04.000Hutton, in the past, you have told us how we can get a copy of your newsletter That's put out periodically.
01:44:13.000It's excellent and covers a lot of events and things that are happening in the world and what's going on with the corruption of the Catholic Church.
01:44:21.000Would you like to give folks an address or tell folks how they can get that?
01:44:25.000I'm at 141 Irish Street, Summersville, West Virginia.
01:44:35.000The letter is mostly plain India and it's almost all On the situation in the Catholic Church and how it has varied from what it has been for 19 centuries.
01:44:49.000But now and then we let a little politics into it.
01:44:53.000Not too often, but... Well, again, folks, the address to get a copy of this is 141 Irish Street.
01:45:04.000Summersville, West Virginia, and what's the zip code?
01:46:30.000I went to Catholic school my entire life, and from second grade on I was an altar boy until I graduated.
01:46:37.000Every couple of months or so, after becoming an Alderboy, the priests and deacons of the local church would gather us Alderboys together and let us know that, you know, hey guys, we're going to have a big shortage of priests in the years to come, so anybody who's remotely considering being a priest, please become a priest.
01:46:56.000So, back in the early 70s, there was a huge, huge push For any older boys or anybody to become a priest.
01:47:03.000So, in my opinion, that's why any of these scandals or any charges that have been leveled against any priest, that these bishops, all they would ever do is just, you know, shuffle the bishops off to another location or another congregation.
01:47:30.000Well, one reason for this terrible depravity among the clergy, and it's not all of it by any means, but too many, far too many of them, and it's because there's no more grace.
01:47:43.000They've stolen the Mass and the Sacraments from the Church.
01:47:51.000As I've seen firsthand, you know, the push for pushing us all into the clergy is they didn't have enough priests.
01:47:57.000So if they fired everybody who was ever accused of any improprieties, they wouldn't have enough priests to run the congregation as it was, you know?
01:48:28.000It's a pleasure to be on your show, especially with Hutton.
01:48:31.000I want to congratulate you on both your longevity on earth and your raising of a fine young man who knows the truth.
01:48:39.000And God grant you many years of I'm a pious and attentive Catholic and I've come to the realization, as has Hutton many years ago, that there are some serious problems with the Catholic Church.
01:48:53.000As Hutton has pointed out, they date back to Vatican II.
01:48:57.000The infiltration of Freemasonry into the Catholic Church cannot be overlooked.
01:49:06.000Every Christian should know the truth about what's really being implemented here.
01:49:09.000A New World Order based on Freemasonry, a New World Order, secular New World Order, which has as its fundamental goal is to subvert every form of society with this New World Order.
01:49:52.000i'm not going to get the tape because i don't want i've been studying this now for
01:49:57.000at least thirty five years well i ran into it in the catholic schools in australia
01:50:05.000my children are going to the schools and i had to take them out
01:50:08.000yes i did too the same time I've seen the same thing both in the Catholic Church and, of course, the public schools don't follow any type of moral guidelines whatsoever.
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01:54:46.000I believe he suspended the Constitution because Even though we've been told that the Civil War was over slavery, it was actually because the southern states were going to secede because of the heavy hand of government.
01:55:01.000Well, that's what Hutton was just saying.
01:56:18.000I never heard seven, but they got him once, dearly.
01:56:22.000But I'd also like to add that the only way this government will be fixed, if you will, is your right by succession, and that must start with state sovereignty.
01:56:35.000Could I give you my organization's website?
01:57:17.000But there's a couple of interesting things.
01:57:22.000One, these people's approach is so critical and so important and it's just a tragedy that the press is blacking them out on what they're doing and trying to accomplish because their whole thing is we've got to stop feeding the beast.
01:57:36.000And what they've been able to accomplish is simply truth in taxation.
01:57:42.000If you don't answer our questions, we have a First Amendment right of redress of grievance, which says we have a constitutional right not to pay taxes.
01:57:52.000Well, that's it, and that's what they've tried to do.
01:58:31.000You bet. Take care. There goes Hutton Gibson, a great American.
01:58:34.000You can write to him at 141 Irish Street, Somersville, West Virginia, 26651.
01:58:39.000We'll be back with the German Defense Minister.
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02:00:10.000We're already into the third and final hour of this global transmission against tyranny.
02:00:16.000And in the last hour, we had Hutton Gibson, expert on the New World Order, and of course, Father Emel Gibson on, talking about the different key issues.
02:00:26.000In this hour, we're joined by Andres von Bulow, and he was the Federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s, and up until just a few years ago, he was also the Minister of Technology, and he's written a book that, according to Reuters, is the bestseller in Germany, that translates into 9-11 and the CIA.
02:00:53.000And he's not the only German minister that has said that we're looking at world fascism here, and powerful military-industrial complex institutions engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission.
02:01:07.000And Andres von Bulow, we are so honored to have someone of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show.
02:01:24.000We're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a longer segment, but for those that just joined us, tell us a little bit more about yourself and then your book, please.
02:01:33.000Well, I have been 25 years in politics, now I am out.
02:01:41.000In the end, I was Minister of Technology before I was Secretary for Defense.
02:01:50.000And then I had a deal in a commission about the East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany.
02:02:01.000And this was a very interesting inside story.
02:02:07.000Because on the Western side, on doing deals between East and West, and violating the laws of economics in Germany, in the European community, and the United States, It was always two parts which were dealing between East and West and this brought me a lot of insight in the Secret Service business.
02:02:36.000In fact, I remember reading about the huge investigations you did.
02:02:39.000That was massive international headlines concerning the SCSI.
02:02:43.000And how different governments have actually been working with these people.
02:02:47.000And if you'd like, you're welcome to get into that as well.
02:02:50.000Again, folks, the equivalent of the Secretary of Defense, Minister of Defense in Germany, and then, of course, Technology, the head of that.
02:03:02.000Your best-selling book, and I wish there was an English translation, because I would certainly buy one, My wife does read German, but please tell us about your book.
02:03:16.000Well, I was writing another book, and then 9-11 happened, and it was strange to me watching.
02:03:27.000Well, we all were horrified what was going on, and we said, well, it's impossible, and how can a crew of people manage to do such things?
02:03:40.000At the first hours we didn't know who was it.
02:03:44.000Then within hours came out that probably Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda was behind that.
02:03:52.000And then within two or three days these 19 people came out.
02:03:58.000And my objection was, or my Looking at it, to whom make it bring good?
02:04:09.000And I found out that it's rather damaging to the Islamist world.
02:04:19.000And, uh, perhaps it might be not only a terrorist attack, perhaps it might be a covert operation.
02:04:27.000And I watched the scenery going on, what the American, uh, government is... Uh, Minister, Minister, we've got a break.
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02:07:59.000I am so honored to have on Andres von Bülow, former German Defense Minister, head of their Defense Department, and then, of course, just a few years ago, the head of their technology system, which is a very high-level post, just as high-level as the Defense Minister in Deutschland.
02:08:19.000I've read some of the quotes out of it that have been translated into English.
02:08:24.000And the title translated is, 9-11 and the CIA.
02:08:27.000And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks.
02:08:31.000Also, we're lining up for the show Michael Meacher.
02:08:35.000And he, of course, was the British Environment Minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud, and has written articles saying if the globalists didn't carry the attacks out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take place.
02:08:50.000So, if you've got a brain and look at the evidence, it's clear, and Minister von Bülow, a very intelligent individual, has gone over this.
02:08:58.000So, sir, you said that On the day of the event, you began to look at it, you began to research it, and from your specific expertise of intelligence and military and technology, you know, heading up entire sectors of the world's third largest economy, please discuss for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9-11.
02:09:24.000At 9-11 I just watched the scenery, and I said, well, there must have gone something very wrongly, in the wrong way.
02:09:36.000And I watched the TV, for example, and in the same minute where the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade Center, You found these Palestinians dancing and laughing and a few days later one could find out that this was a fake.
02:10:04.000It was made by a TV crew of the Defense Ministry in Israel and they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it and nobody told it and the question for me was Who brought this TV stuff right in time into the international networks like CNN and CBS and so on and so on?
02:10:28.000And then we looked for the... and then the story came up, this has been done by Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these were 19 people of Muslim background which did this.
02:10:45.000And then you could watch at the passenger list, and nobody showed up.
02:10:51.000Not one Arabic name is showing up there.
02:10:55.000Then one is interested to see videos, because all these 19 passengers must have passed the video, a lot of video cameras in these three airports.
02:11:07.000In Dallas, I think, and Newark, and in Logan in Boston.
02:11:11.000And in Portland, in the North, and you don't get this stuff.
02:11:18.000Then we are looking for the black boxes, we don't get them.
02:11:23.000Then the story how these World Trade Centers broke down, they were constructed against an approach by airplanes.
02:11:35.000The firemen of New York, they were able to come to the floor where the fires were burning.
02:11:43.000And the fire commander said, well, I need two teams more to fight these fires, and then it's finished.
02:11:51.000So the heat, it's impossible that the heat was as high as it has been written in the papers and in all the media.
02:12:00.000And then, and then, The Feds declared that all the firefighter tapes had malfunctioned.
02:12:15.000There's video of people standing in the holes in the buildings with no fire around them.
02:12:23.000We're going to go over the evidence that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these agitated conclusions.
02:12:29.000But first, I wanted to ask you, have you heard the new developments?
02:12:34.000The owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they blew Building 7 up, the 47-story building that wasn't even hit by an aircraft.
02:12:52.000You know, normally it's not coming out in Germany, it's coming out in your country.
02:12:58.000And it's a fascinating background to research via internet, because all this stuff is broadly spread over the internet.
02:13:09.000So it's very easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get a yoda about this.
02:13:15.000Well, I'll tell you what, later in this hour, it's only three minutes of audio clips, We will air from the PBS documentary, America Rebuilding, where they admit they blew up WTC7.
02:13:24.000Now that's important because they said that building fell from fire, even though it wasn't hit by a plane, and now he slips up and says, we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that.
02:13:38.000I mean, this is a public admission, sir.
02:13:40.000Yeah, especially because the CIA headquarter in New York was within this building and i think uh... the uh...
02:13:50.000uh... how do you call it uh... the emergency center for the governor or
02:13:54.000another the major mail may or may not have a lot of uh...
02:14:01.000and it was not hit by a plane and the fire was very low and the surrounding steel constructions uh... well left
02:14:10.000over They didn't collapse, but the building number 7 collapsed in the late afternoon at 5 o'clock, I think.
02:14:18.000Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attack, sir, out of the building, and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one fell swoop.
02:14:29.000It's convincing, but one has to get the whole proof.
02:14:33.000But the problem is that the elements for proof are destroyed.
02:14:38.000Also... You find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American Navy.
02:14:45.000Also, sir, we have Norad standing down for an hour and 25 minutes, but when the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for 15 minutes, he was surrounded in 18 minutes by five F-16s.
02:15:00.000Well, this is a big question, because it happened in 2001, I think, more than 60 times.
02:15:10.000That fighter went up to clear what has been done to airplanes which showed some irregularities.
02:15:22.000At 9-11, four planes for two hours were able to drive around, fly around, even one hour going in direction to the west, then turn around and then come back.
02:15:37.000And the military air force was not able to interdict them.
02:15:56.000Now, I don't know if you've seen the Associated Press, but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Centers that day, applying jets into buildings in New York and D.C.
02:16:06.000My sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them, have said on this show that they were told to stand down because it was, quote, just a drill.
02:16:15.000That's how you get the good military to stand down.
02:16:17.000You tell them, oh, it's just a drill, and that drill was going on at 8.30 in the morning.
02:16:28.000And the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book which is documenting everything.
02:16:35.000If you are looking for the timetable, for example, you have to make a medium between two or three or five newspapers and radio and TV announcements.
02:16:52.000On the other hand, the American government is running, as they call it, a world war against possibly 16 nations without showing what really was the background of 9-11.
02:17:23.000You've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting with the House and Senate Intelligence Committee at 8.30 that morning.
02:17:30.000His second trip in his life to the United States.
02:17:34.000You've got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed hijackers.
02:17:40.000I mean, sir, you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff, told not to fly to New York that day.
02:17:52.000So for me, since the official version is not credible at all, it's totally incredible, The second solution is a covert operation.
02:18:05.000And this is a way to influence, to brainwash the American people into a long, long ongoing conflict with the Muslim world in order to get, to bring For example to the oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before finally the oil age is going out and probably behind this is a philosophy of geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken up and China is too big and you have to be able to
02:18:49.000This is put down in the idea of a new American Century, which has been written by a lot of people which are now in government, like Cheney, like Rumsfeld, and others.
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02:23:54.000For the rest of the hour, we're honored to have Andres von Bulow, former Defense Secretary and then, of course, former head of technology, Department of Technology, in Germany.
02:24:05.000And he just got out of government a few years ago.
02:24:07.000He's written a best-selling book, 9-11 and the CIA.
02:24:10.000We have info on that at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
02:24:17.000We'll also be posting this interview on the website here in the next few days as well.
02:24:26.000Mr. Vombulo continuing With the process of you waking up to what happened on 9-11 and researching it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that it's impossible that these 19 people did this?
02:25:11.000And one of the indications is, the indication that everything is right with these 19 people in Osama Bin Laden, Is that the government is free to show all the proof which is on the table, which is on the street, which lays on the ground of World Trade Center and so on and so on.
02:25:35.000If you have a covered operation, the probability is always that the left over pieces of proof are taken away immediately and a lot of secrecy is, a band of secrecy is taken over everything and this has happened with 9-11.
02:25:57.000Well that also happened, were you aware in the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune reported this in 93, the FBI cooked the bomb, trained the driver, had an Egyptian security agent doing it for him, had two retarded Muslims, literally retarded, drive the truck and park it, let the bombing go forward, In Oklahoma City, the same company that destroyed the remnants of the World Trade Center blew up the remnants of Oklahoma City, had that buried under machine gun guard at a private landfill to this day.
02:26:27.000They hold the rubble away from the WTC complex to China.
02:26:31.000They wouldn't let you take photographs.
02:27:21.000And the fire engineer magazine is saying, well, it's totally, totally unbelievable what happened with this.
02:27:30.000uh... this uh... examination of nine eleven well they say it's a criminal cover-up and uh... now sir we've turned into a police state they can secretly arrest citizens secretly execute us they're building admitted prison camps all over the country this is in our news uh... i mean we're turning into something like the soviet union here i can't comment on this but uh... what's going on in guantanamo is like that I think, and the problem is, if you put people away, like in Guantanamo on Cuba, if you take them away for one or two years without letting a lawyer do them, without showing them what you are reprising to them, without having contact with families, finally they tell in all court processes
02:28:24.000Well, sir, our mainstream news says torture is good, and they say they are torturing people.
02:29:07.000is done and uh... then you get the uh... the The final outcome out of this torture and you can produce this in German before German courts or American courts and try to bring about Final judgment.
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02:32:54.000Alright folks, we're talking to Andres Vambulo, and to make this clear, up until about, what, two years ago, he was the head minister over the Department of Technology, and before that, in the parliament, he was the head of his parties group on defense.
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02:34:29.000Because if we don't expose the Globalists, who clearly carried the attacks out, they're going to carry out more terror And they're setting up this police state.
02:34:38.000The survival of America and frankly the world is at stake because if the globalists can use our military as their arm to attack 63 countries, it's over.
02:35:40.000And there was speculation about the going down of United Airlines and American Airlines, both airlines which were touched by 9-11 and other things.
02:35:55.000And so normally you could find out because I think the American, the CIA together with the financial department, the treasury, They developed this FinCEN watching the markets to find out speculations about going on terrorist attacks.
02:36:24.000So they could immediately find out there's something going on and they could find out.
02:36:29.000And in this case, in 9-11, the NSA people, which are the guys watching via satellites, the whole transactions going on on Earth, they said, they told The people to destroy the tapes.
02:36:47.000They had tapes about this interior trading and they said we have to destroy them.
02:36:52.000So they are not there any longer for proof.
02:36:55.000Now again, interior trading, that's a good term for it, insider trading or interior trading going on here.
02:37:04.000And 15 million dollars, I think that's a low estimate.
02:38:23.000And then, until now, what the President knew before 9-11 is a total secret.
02:38:32.000I think there is no secret service around the world which gave not hints to the American the circuit service community, the CIA, the DIA and so on
02:38:43.000and so on, they did nothing out of it.
02:38:46.000And the most disturbing thing is that these guys which knew about something about coming up 9-11,
02:38:54.000they were cut out before. I mean the local level, the regional level of the FBI offices,
02:39:03.000they knew quite a lot and they tried to force the central, the
02:39:10.000The central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on, and the guy who decided on top, I think it's the second man within the FBI, he told, no, we don't do this, and he got promoted after 9-11.
02:41:10.000troops were in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
02:41:13.000Bush had the battle launch orders on his desk two days before 9-11.
02:41:17.000Yeah, that's exactly... And I want to digress, sir, back to torture for a minute because you have impressed me by how... I mean, you know so much about this.
02:41:28.000On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus Quit Guantanamo because he quote refused to torture the people there and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly them to foreign countries and the CIA tortures them themselves.
02:41:57.000And all the, all the court proceedings against, for example, Maasai, I think it was the 20th, normally supposed to have in each, each aircraft five hijackers, and one was taken into prison by the FBI before
02:42:21.000and then the process was made I think in Alexandria in Virginia
02:42:26.000and the judge said well if you don't give the proof by by these guys who run Al Qaeda as the government is telling
02:42:37.000if you don't give this people for cross-examination
02:42:45.000We have some people which are related to Al-Qaeda, or probably Al-Qaeda, because Al-Qaeda is probably an artificial The nomination of very loose elements of Islam people.
02:43:06.000In Hamburg, the trials are failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.
02:43:18.000And look, we've had military officers, many others on.
02:43:22.000It's clear, Al Qaeda is a CIA creation, a foggy boogeyman, so the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks, and then pin it on them.
02:43:32.000And we know, I mean, when bin Laden blows up a building, supposedly, our government pays their family to rebuild it.
02:43:40.000I mean, there's the payoff right out in the open.
02:43:46.000The whole background, the whole personal, like Bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all figures which were handled by CIA in former times.
02:44:02.000So probably they are recycled in the system now as bad guys.
02:44:07.000Before they were the good guys, uh... taking away the russians out of afghanistan and uh...
02:44:14.000dealing with this and getting money for that paid for this
02:44:18.000uh... and now they are they are used for for as as bad guys and
02:44:23.000uh... the or somebody that has been uh... i think in uh...
02:44:42.000You find them in Chechnya, for example.
02:44:49.000And these are also former Afghanis, as they are called.
02:44:54.000And they are driving the global play of secret services, of CIA for example.
02:45:02.000Absolutely, and then they provide the crisis so the big brother can provide the police state solution.
02:45:09.000Andres Vambulo, it's clear that if we do not expose who at least stands to gain from the terror and who was involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our government, they're going to be able to use America as the engine for quote, imperial mobilization and world domination, as Brzezinski and the PNAC documents and others have said.
02:45:30.000How important is it To expose this for the future of free humanity?
02:45:37.000I think it's for everybody outside of the United States it's extremely important because it's a question whether democracy will survive and the state of law is kept up or we are driven by public relation and financial interests and the main thing I think for the Americans is Who pays for all this?
02:46:02.000Because if the oil companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of it, the American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine.
02:46:15.000Not the oil companies are paying for that.
02:46:18.000Not the military industrial complex is paying for it.
02:46:27.000Absolutely, and now we are paying record amounts for fuel, for petrol, Mr. Vombulo, in this country while they have record supplies and the oil companies are posting record profits.
02:46:45.000Because I want people to hear these clips.
02:46:46.000This is from the PBS documentary, and this will just take a minute, sir, and we'll get your comment on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell, how they removed it first after it fell because, quote, nobody died in it.
02:46:57.000And then it's the owner, Larry Silverstein, saying that they pulled it, gave the order to demolish it, on the afternoon of September 11.
02:47:06.000So, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us, please.
02:47:10.000Trade Center 7 had always been considered the starting point for rebuilding.
02:47:16.000Located north of the slurry wall, seven had been cleared faster than the rest of the site.
02:47:22.000And there had been no bodies to recover.
02:47:28.000Pelted by debris when the north tower collapsed, seven burned until late afternoon, allowing occupants to evacuate to safety.
02:47:38.000I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
02:47:45.000I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
02:47:48.000I think the smartest thing to do is pull.
02:47:51.000And they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse.
02:47:58.000We made the decision to pull, and then watched the building collapse.
02:48:01.000Now here's Dan Rather, seconds after it collapses, replaying the collapse of 7.
02:48:06.000And this is what Dan Rather had to say, then we'll get Von Bielow's comment.
02:48:28.000For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
02:48:40.000Now, again, the seismographs show multiple explosions.
02:48:44.000The firefighters were told to get back.
02:48:47.000Vambilo, how important is this piece of evidence?
02:49:13.000My question is only, if there are explosions, is this true?
02:49:21.000Can it be that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings in a manner that they are collapsing in a symmetrical fall?
02:49:38.000In a very short, in a few seconds, they broke together.
02:50:01.000And if there are spikes on the geological institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter Scala, then you have to find out what's the background.
02:50:17.000And five or seven days later, the temperature on the On the ground where 500 degrees or a little bit more, or 450.
02:50:28.000Huge, if it's only five flowers which were destroyed and where the fire was burning.
02:50:38.000And the whole building, more than 100 floors.
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02:54:39.000Mr. Rambullo, my question is, following this disaster of 9-1-1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia why they didn't want to get involved because of the money that they had invested in Iraq.
02:54:54.000With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you understand the new world order to be, especially since they said they could use this event of 9-1-1?
02:55:03.000Who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?
02:55:09.000Who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?
02:56:02.000And exactly at the same time that the Soviet Union is breaking down, this new terror thing comes up.
02:56:08.000And the first terrorist attacks were, I think, the World Trade Center One, where you found out that the leading guy of this bomb building, this was at this time an agricultural bomb, he was immediately going to the FBI and telling them, I tell you everything about this.
02:56:29.000And they agreed about that finally 24 hours before the attack in 1993 they would change the powder, the dangerous powder against an undangerous powder.
02:56:46.000And the FBI didn't come up Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers, and that's another path scene.
02:56:53.000A thousand people were inflicted, and six people were dead.
02:57:00.000In Oklahoma, you had nearly the same thing.
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