Andres von Bulow was the Federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense in Germany, until a few years ago. He was also the Minister of Technology, and he has written a book that translates into 9/11 and the CIA. And he s not the only German minister that has said that we re looking at world fascism, and powerful military industrial complex institutions engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission.
00:00:25.000We're already into the third and final hour of this global transmission against tyranny.
00:00:32.000And in the last hour, we had Hudson Gibson, expert on the New World Order, and of course, Father Emel Gibson on, talking about the different key issues.
00:00:41.000In this hour, we're joined by Andres von Bulow, and he was the Federal Minister of Defense, or the equivalent of our Secretary of Defense, been in the German government since the 70s, and up until just a few years ago, he was also the Minister of Technology, and he's written a book that, according to Reuters, is a big bestseller in Germany, that translates into 9-11 and the CIA.
00:01:08.000And he's not the only German minister that has said that we're looking at world fascism here, and powerful military-industrial complex institutions engineering terror attacks to scare us into submission.
00:01:22.000And Andres von Bulow, we are so honored to have someone of your stature and obvious intelligence and your courage on this show.
00:01:35.000Hello, this is Andres von Bulow speaking, yeah.
00:01:39.000We're going to break here in a few minutes and come back in a longer segment, but for those that just joined us, tell us a little bit more about yourself and then your book, please.
00:01:49.000Well, I have been 25 years in politics.
00:01:57.000In the end, I was a Minister of Technology before I was Secretary for Defense.
00:02:05.000Then I had to deal in In a commission about the East-West transactions about the secret service of East Germany.
00:02:17.000And this was a very interesting inside story.
00:02:22.000Because on the Western side, on doing deals between East and West, and violating the laws of economics in Germany, in the European community, and the United States, It was always two parts which were dealing between East and West and this brought me a lot of insight in the Secret Service business.
00:02:52.000In fact, I remember reading about the huge investigations you did.
00:02:55.000That was massive international headlines concerning Wisconsin.
00:02:59.000And how different governments have actually been working with these people.
00:03:03.000And if you'd like, you're welcome to get into that as well.
00:03:06.000Again, folks, the equivalent of the Secretary of Defense, Minister of Defense in Germany, and then of course technology, the head of that.
00:03:17.000Your best-selling book, and I wish there was an English translation, because I would certainly buy one, My wife does read German, but please tell us about your book.
00:03:32.000Well, I was writing another book, and then 9-11 happened, and it was strange to me watching.
00:03:42.000Well, we all were horrified what was going on, and we said, well, it's impossible, and how can a crew of people manage to do such things?
00:03:55.000At the first hours we didn't know who was it.
00:04:00.000Then within hours came out that probably Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda was behind that.
00:04:07.000And then within two or three days these 19 people came out.
00:04:13.000And my objection was, or my Looking at it, to whom make it bring good?
00:04:24.000And I found out that it's rather damaging to the Islamist world.
00:04:35.000And, uh, perhaps it might be not only a terrorist attack, perhaps it might be a covert operation.
00:04:43.000And I watched the scenery going on, what the American, uh, government is... Uh, Minister, Minister, we've got a break.
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00:08:09.000It's eight minutes, ten seconds into this third hour of global transmission.
00:08:15.000I am so honored to have on Andres von Bulow, former German defense minister, head of their defense department, and then of course, a few years ago, the head of their technology system, which is at a very high level post, just as high level as the defense minister in Deutschland.
00:08:35.000I've read some of the quotes out of it that have been translated into English.
00:08:39.000And the title translated is, 9-11 and the CIA.
00:08:42.000And he lays out the evidence of the military-industrial complex carrying out the attacks.
00:08:47.000Also, we're lining up for the show Michael Meacher.
00:08:51.000And he, of course, was the British Environment Minister who resigned over Tony Blair's fraud, and has written articles saying if the globalists didn't carry the attacks out, they certainly funded and allowed them to take place.
00:09:06.000So, if you've got a brain and look at the evidence, it's clear.
00:09:09.000And Mr. von Bülow, a very intelligent individual, has gone over this.
00:09:13.000So, sir, you said that On the day of the event, you began to look at it, you began to research it, and from your specific expertise of intelligence and military and technology, you know, heading up entire sectors of the world's third largest economy, please discuss for us your research and how you wrote the book and what really happened on 9-11.
00:09:40.000At 9-11 I just watched the scenery and I said, well, there must have gone something very wrongly, in the wrong way.
00:09:52.000And I watched the TV, for example, and In the same minute where the TV showed the planes driving into the World Trade Center, you found these Palestinians dancing and laughing.
00:10:11.000And a few days later, one could find out that this was a fake.
00:10:20.000It was made by a TV crew of the Defense Ministry in Israel.
00:10:25.000and they gave candies to the people and they laughed about it and nobody told it and the
00:10:31.000question for me was who brought this TV stuff right in time into the international networks
00:10:44.000And then we looked for the... and then the story came up, this has been done by Osama Bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda and these were 19 people of Muslim background which did this.
00:11:00.000And then you could watch at the passenger list and nobody showed up.
00:11:07.000Not one Arabic name is showing up there.
00:11:11.000Then one is interested to see videos because all these 19 passengers must have passed A lot of video cameras in these three airports.
00:11:23.000In Dallas, I think, and Newark, and in Logan, in Boston.
00:12:31.000There's video of people standing in the holes in the buildings with no fire around them.
00:12:39.000We're going to go over the evidence that's in your book, sir, and why you came to these educated conclusions.
00:12:45.000But first I wanted to ask you, have you heard the new developments The owner of the World Trade Center slipped up on TV and said that they blew Building 7 up, the 47-story building that wasn't even hit by an aircraft.
00:13:07.000You know, normally it's not coming out in Germany, it's coming out in your country.
00:13:14.000And it's a fascinating background to research via internet, because all this stuff is broadly spread over the internet.
00:13:25.000So it's very easy to follow, but in the main media you don't get a yota about this.
00:13:30.000Well, I'll tell you what, later in this hour, it's only three minutes of audio clips, We will air from the PBS documentary, America Rebuilding, where they admit they blew up WTC7.
00:13:40.000Now that's important because they said that building fell from fire, even though it wasn't hit by a plane, and now he slips up and says, we decided to demolish it on 9-11, but then the mainstream media just ignores that.
00:13:53.000I mean, this is a public admission, sir.
00:13:56.000Yeah, especially because the CIA headquarter in New York was within this building, and I think the...
00:14:07.000The emergency center for the governor, or no, the major mayor of New York was in this building.
00:14:15.000And it was not hit by a plane, and the fire was very low, and the surrounding steel constructions were left over.
00:14:26.000They didn't collapse, but the building number 7 collapsed in the late afternoon at 5 o'clock, I think.
00:14:33.000Well, from our internal sources, they were running the attack, sir, out of the building and so conveniently got rid of the evidence in one fell swoop.
00:14:45.000It's convincing, but one has to get the whole proof.
00:14:49.000But the problem is that the elements for proof are destroyed.
00:14:54.000Also... You find them in Japanese cars and in ships of the American Navy.
00:15:01.000Also, sir, we have Norad standing down for an hour and 25 minutes, but when the golfer Payne Stewart went off course for 15 minutes, he was surrounded in 18 minutes by five F-16s.
00:15:16.000Well, this is a big question because it happened in 2001 I think more than 60 times that FITO went up to clear what has been done to airplanes which showed some irregularities.
00:15:35.000At 9-11 four planes for two hours We're able to drive around, fly around, even one hour going in direction to the west, then turn around and then come back.
00:15:53.000And the military air force was not able to interdict them.
00:16:11.000Now, I don't know if you've seen the Associated Press, but the CIA was running a drill 15 miles from the World Trade Centers that day, flying jets into buildings in New York and D.C.
00:16:21.000My sources inside the Pentagon, the lawyers who represent them, have said on this show that they were told to stand down because it was, quote, just a drill.
00:16:31.000That's how you get the good military to stand down.
00:16:33.000You tell them, oh, it's just a drill, and that drill was going on at 8.30 in the morning.
00:16:44.000And the most strange thing for me is that after two years you don't have a white book which is documenting everything.
00:16:50.000If you are looking for the timetable, for example, you have to make a medium between two or three or five newspapers and radio and TV announcements.
00:17:07.000On the other hand, the American government is running, as they call it, a world war against possibly 16 nations without showing what really was the background of 9-11.
00:17:39.000You've got the General of Pakistan, the head of their intelligence, meeting with the House and Senate Intelligence Committee at 8.30 that morning.
00:17:46.000His second trip in his life to the United States.
00:17:50.000You've got the FBI paying for the houses, the cars, the credit cards of the supposed hijackers.
00:17:56.000I mean, sir, you've got public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, Joint Chiefs of Staff, told not to fly to New York that day.
00:18:08.000So for me, since the official version is not credible at all, it's totally incredible, the second solution is a covert operation.
00:18:21.000And this is a way to influence, to brainwash the American people into a long ongoing conflict with the Muslim world in order to get, to bring For example to the oil companies, the last oil reserves which we need for the next decades before finally the oil age is going out.
00:18:49.000And probably behind this is a philosophy of geopolitical thinking that finally China has to be taken up and China is too big and you have to be able This is put down in the idea of a new American Century, which has been written by a lot of people which are now in government, like Genie, like Rumsfeld and others.
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00:23:52.000Alright my friend, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
00:24:10.000For the rest of the hour, we're honored to have Andres von Bülow, former Defense Secretary and then, of course, former head of technology, Department of Technology in Germany.
00:24:21.000And he just got out of government a few years ago.
00:24:23.000He's written a best-selling book, 9-11 and the CIA.
00:24:26.000We have info on that at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:24:32.000We'll also be posting this interview on the website here in the next few days as well.
00:24:42.000Mr. Vombulo continuing With the process of you waking up to what happened on 9-11 and researching it, what are some of the other key points that clearly show that it's impossible that these 19 people did this?
00:25:26.000And one of the indications is, the indication that everything is right with these 19 people in Osama Bin Laden, Is that the government is free to show all the proof which is on the table, which is on the street, which lays on the ground of World Trade Center and so on and so on.
00:25:51.000If you have a covered operation, the probability is always that the leftover Uh, pieces of, of, of, of proof are taken away immediately.
00:26:05.000And a lot of secrecy is, uh, a band of secrecy is taken over the, uh, everything.
00:26:10.000and this is happened with the with nine eleven also happened were were you aware
00:26:15.000of the new york times chicago tribune reported this in ninety three
00:26:19.000the fbi cook the bomb train the driver had an egyptian security agent doing it for him
00:26:24.000had to retarded muslims literally retarded uh... drive the truck and park it let the bombing go
00:26:30.000forward uh... in oklahoma city the same company that destroyed the
00:28:03.000I mean, we're turning into something like the Soviet Union here.
00:28:07.000I can't comment on this, but what's going on in Guantanamo is like that.
00:28:13.000I think, and the problem is if you put people away, like in Guantanamo on Cuba, if you take them away for one or two years without letting a lawyer do them, without showing them what you are reprising to them, without having contacts with families, finally they tell in all court processes What the FBI is wanting from them.
00:28:42.000So you get faked evidence from these kind of people if you behave like that.
00:28:49.000Our mainstream news says torture is good and they say they are torturing people.
00:28:56.000Is that a concern that our government now admits they're torturing?
00:29:00.000Well, I'm informed that, I don't know whether they are torturing, the kind of keeping them is a kind of a torture, but I'm told that there is an agreement with a lot of states to put these people, for example, to Egypt or to other states where torture is accepted and is done, and then you get the The final outcome out of this torture, and you can produce this before German courts or American courts, and try to bring about final judgment.
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00:33:09.000Alright folks, we're talking to Andres Vambulo, and to make this clear, up until about what, two years ago, he was the head minister over the Department of Technology, and before that, in the parliament, he was the head of his parties group on defense.
00:33:30.000Now, We're going to take calls coming up here in a few minutes.
00:33:34.000Your chance to talk to Andres Von Bulow and the toll free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
00:33:40.000And if you read German, speak German, you can go online, just type it into the search engine or go to the website and link through and buy a copy of 9-11 and the CIA.
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00:34:45.000Because if we don't expose the globalists, who clearly carried the attacks out, they're going to carry out more terror And they're setting up this police state.
00:34:54.000The survival of America and frankly the world is at stake because if the globalists can use our military as their arm to attack 63 countries, it's over.
00:35:55.000And there was speculation about the going down of United Airlines and American Airlines, both airlines which were touched by 9-11 and other things.
00:36:11.000And so normally you could find out because I think the American The CIA together with the financial department, the treasury, they developed this FinCEN watching the markets to find out speculations about going on terrorist attacks.
00:36:39.000So they could immediately find out there's something going on and they could find out.
00:36:45.000And in this case, in 9-11, the NSA people, which are the guys watching via satellites, the whole transactions going on, on Earth, they said, they told The people to destroy the tapes.
00:37:03.000They had tapes about this interior trading and they said we have to destroy them.
00:37:08.000So they are not there any longer for proof.
00:37:10.000Now again, interior trading, that's a good term for it, insider trading or interior trading going on here.
00:37:19.000And 15 million dollars, I think that's a low estimate, it came out the first week, Germany reported on it, France, the US, oh we're going to catch them, record put options against United and American, not against other airlines, but specifically against these, and it led back to the CIA, suddenly they destroy the evidence, again, again, another smoking gun.
00:37:41.000Then you get into anthrax attacks, Bush on Cipro, the most weaponized anthrax ever seen, tell us about that.
00:37:48.000Well, there the question just is, who has the responsibility for this?
00:37:54.000Because, you know, it overlaid the whole public debate, what was the background and the reason for 9-11, for weeks.
00:38:04.000Because these attacks were going on for weeks and weeks and weeks, and finally nothing came out.
00:38:12.000We have no report on who was responsible, who did it, And this, again, is amazing.
00:38:19.000I think it belongs probably to the cover-up, the psychological cover-up of the whole scenery.
00:38:27.000And then the Vice President and the President asking the Congress not to go too much into detail about the background of 9-11.
00:38:40.000And then, until now, what the President knew before 9-11 is a total secret.
00:38:48.000I think there is no secret service around the world which gave not hints to the American secret service community, the CIA, the DIA, and so on and so on.
00:39:02.000And the most disturbing thing is that these guys, which knew about something about coming up 9-11, they were cut out before.
00:39:14.000I mean, the local level, the regional level of the FBI offices, they knew quite a lot and they forced, they tried to force the central, The central organization to go into the details about Arabs taking lessons in flight schools and so on, and the guy who decided on top, I think it's the second man within the FBI, he told, no, we don't do this, and he got promoted after 9-11.
00:40:51.000And then the wars which were reasoned to be as fights against terrorism.
00:40:59.000The war against Afghanistan to put out the Taliban, it was decided long before and I think in June before 9-11, the Pakistan government and the Indian government was They were told that there will be an intervention in October.
00:41:44.000On the torture issue, General Rick Baucus, Quit Guantanamo because he quote refused to torture the people there and the CIA section chief bragged in the Washington Post that they fly them to foreign countries and the CIA tortures them themselves.
00:42:13.000And all the, all the court proceedings against, for example, Maasai, I think it was the 20s, normally supposed to have in each, each aircraft five hijackers.
00:42:32.000and one was taken into prison by the FBI before and then the process was made I think in Alexandria in
00:42:41.000Virginia and the judge said well if you don't give the proof by
00:42:46.000by these guys who run Al Qaeda as the government is telling if you
00:42:53.000don't give this people for cross-examination then I can deliver a judgment.
00:43:01.000We have some people which are related to Al-Qaeda, or probably Al-Qaeda, because Al-Qaeda is probably an artificial The nomination of very loose elements of Islam people.
00:43:22.000In Hamburg, the trials are failing because the American government is not delivering the proof.
00:43:33.000Absolutely, and look, we've had military officers, many others on.
00:43:38.000It's clear, Al Qaeda is a CIA creation, a foggy boogeyman, so the military-industrial complex can carry out attacks, and then pin it on them.
00:43:48.000And we know, I mean, when bin Laden blows up a building, supposedly, our government pays their family to rebuild it.
00:43:54.000I mean, there's the payoff right out in the open.
00:44:02.000The whole background, the whole personal, like Bin Laden, like Al Qaeda, like Taliban, even Saddam Hussein, these are all figures which were handled by CIA in former times.
00:44:18.000So probably they are recycled in the system now as bad guys.
00:44:22.000Before they were the good guys, taking away the Russians out of Afghanistan and dealing
00:44:31.000with this and getting money for that, paid for this and now they are used as bad guys and Osama Bin Laden has
00:44:41.000been I think in 95 in the Balkans in an operation where the Americans were with the UKG in
00:44:58.000You find them in Chechnya, for example.
00:45:05.000And these are also former Afghanis, as they are called.
00:45:10.000And they are driving the global play of secret services, of CIA for example.
00:45:18.000Absolutely, and then they provide the crisis so the big brother can provide the police state solution.
00:45:25.000Andres Vambulo, it's clear that if we do not expose who at least stands to gain from the terror and who was involved in it, that is the large financial interests that own our government, they're going to be able to use America as the engine for quote, imperial mobilization and world domination, as Brzezinski and the PENAC documents and others have said.
00:45:46.000How important is it To expose this for the future of free humanity?
00:45:52.000I think it's for everybody outside of the United States it's extremely important because it's a question whether democracy will survive and the state of law is kept up or we are driven by public relation and financial interests and the main thing I think for the Americans is Who pays for all this?
00:46:18.000Because if the oil companies get more cheap oil and make their money out of it...
00:46:28.000The American taxpayer has to pay for the military machine.
00:46:31.000Not the oil companies are paying for that.
00:46:34.000Not the military industrial complex is paying for it.
00:47:01.000Because I want people to hear these clips.
00:47:02.000This is from the PBS documentary, and this will just take a minute, sir, and we'll get your comment on it, where they describe how Building 7 fell, how they removed it first after it fell because, quote, nobody died in it.
00:47:13.000And then it's the owner, Larry Silverstein, saying that they pulled it, gave the order to demolish it, on the afternoon of September 11.
00:47:22.000So, Mark, go ahead and hit that clip for us, please.
00:47:26.000Trade Center 7 had always been considered the starting point for rebuilding.
00:47:32.000Located north of the slurry wall, seven had been cleared faster than the rest of the site.
00:47:38.000And there had been no bodies to recover.
00:47:44.000Pelted by debris when the north tower collapsed, seven burned until late afternoon, allowing occupants to evacuate to safety.
00:47:53.000I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
00:48:01.000I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
00:48:44.000For the third time today, reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
00:48:57.000Again, the seismographs show multiple explosions.
00:49:00.000The firefighters were told to get back.
00:49:03.000Vambilo, how important is this piece of evidence?
00:49:29.000My question is only, if there are explosions, is this true?
00:49:37.000Can it be that the heat out of kerosene is able to destroy these huge buildings in a manner that they are collapsing in the symmetrical fall
00:49:54.000in in in in in the very short in few seconds they broke together
00:49:59.000they broke together it's nearly impossible
00:50:02.000and they uh... so uh... everything is everything which is on the table
00:50:08.000uh... is uh... telling uh... that uh... the government story is not true
00:50:13.000and that must be another story There must have been explosions.
00:50:17.000And if there are spikes on the geological institutions in five states, 2.2 on the Richter Scala, you have to find out what's the background.
00:50:33.000And five or seven days later, the temperature on the On the ground where 500 degrees or a little bit more or 450.
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00:54:54.000Mr. Rambulo, my question is, following this disaster of 9-1-1, I understand Germany, France, and Russia, why they didn't want to get involved because of the money that they had invested in Iraq.
00:55:09.000With the military-industrial complex like it is, what do you understand the new world order to be, especially since they said they could use this event of 9-1-1?
00:55:18.000Who are the forces behind government-sponsored terror?
00:55:25.000Who are the forces behind government I didn't understand this.
00:55:29.000Well, we know there's this global government now forming.
00:55:32.000We know powerful financial interests are engineering terror attacks.
00:55:35.000Who are the forces behind the military-industrial complex?
00:55:38.000Well, there is always an interest if you look at the munition factory as I observed in the
00:55:50.000East-West conflict or in the Near East conflict, they are always trying to sell their material
00:55:56.000to both sides and they are always interested in conflict and they would like after the
00:56:04.000breakdown of the Soviet Union, the normal thing would be that we cut down this military
00:56:13.000industrial complex which cost the American taxpayer a huge amount of money.
00:56:18.000And exactly at the same time when the Soviet Union is breaking down, this new terror thing comes up.
00:56:23.000And the first terrorist attacks were I think the World Trade Center won, where you found out that the leading guy of this bomb building, this was at this time an agricultural bomb,
00:56:38.000He was immediately going to the FBI and telling them, I tell you everything about this.
00:56:44.000And they agreed about that finally 24 hours before the attack in 1993, they would change the powder, the dangerous powder against an undangerous powder.
00:57:02.000And the FBI didn't come up Yeah, they cooked the bomb and trained the drivers and that's another patch.
00:57:09.000A thousand people were inflicted and six people were dead.
00:57:16.000In Oklahoma you had nearly the same thing.
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01:00:19.000It is Friday, the sixth day of February, 2004.
01:00:25.000Coming up in about 30 minutes, we're going to have Sherman Skolnick, who's broken a lot of major stories over the last 40 years as an exposer of the Globalist, with Lenny Blum.
01:00:36.000And Lenny Blum, of course, for over a year had a show on cloak and dagger on a big station
01:01:30.000And again we have the Vombilo interview posted at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
01:01:44.000I hope you'll email that address out to everybody and to help spread the information because here's a high-level government official saying the globalists are clearly behind 9-11.
01:01:58.000Again, jobless rate drops 112,000 jobs added.
01:02:00.000again jobless rate drops one hundred twelve thousand jobs added now
01:02:05.000last was it last monday the washington post reported that the official federal
01:02:12.000numbers that two million people are now
01:02:15.000in the next uh... three weeks and that was a few weeks ago so now that's
01:02:18.000happened uh... are going to go off the unemployment rolls
01:02:22.000and then they're not counted as unemployed So you've got millions of people going off the unemployment rolls, and the new numbers come out.
01:03:01.000From Austin, you know, a city of a million people, the fastest growing, richest city according to Money Magazine and Forbes, what, five years running.
01:03:11.000So here we are in Austin, this milk and honey place, and that's the real number.
01:04:05.000In exchange for credit card companies, everybody else spying on you, they give them information others have gathered, the government does, back to the private companies.
01:04:13.000And this is out of the mainstream news there.
01:04:17.000In the great state of Utah, Army officials up in arms over Federation of American Scientists website, for years, the Federation of American Scientists publishes declassified Army documents of their plans to microchippas, concentration camps, foreign troops, that's where we get a lot of our info.
01:04:37.000Turns out the Army was threatening their website and other sites, and now the Army's having to apologize and go, okay, this was declassified.
01:04:48.000We'll be right back with all this and more.
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01:08:10.000I'm gonna launch straight into the news and we got guests coming up here in about 25 minutes.
01:08:17.000Again, the jobless rate, they're saying, has dropped.
01:08:20.000They say there's been 112,000 jobs added, but remember, millions of people just went off the unemployment rolls, so those numbers are cooked.
01:08:28.000I mean, I wish those were real numbers, but...
01:08:30.000It's like the Ministry of Plenty in 1984 always telling you how much better stuff's getting and it's not true.
01:08:44.000At least 100 were injured when an explosion tore apart a carriage in the Moscow subway during morning rush hour yesterday with police saying it was probably a suicide bombing.
01:08:56.000Eyewitnesses, some of them, cover with blood, smoke, and carnage when the blast hit a subway carriage between two stations in the southeast Moscow at around 8.40 a.m.
01:09:07.000Interfax News Agency put the number of dead at around 40, with the total expected to rise in emergency officials at at least 100 people that have been inside each subway carriage at the time.
01:09:18.000Now, Vladimir Putin was caught when he was vice president.
01:09:20.000He's a former KGB chief from Stalingrad, Leningrad.
01:09:24.000Give it whatever name you want, they're always changing it.
01:10:19.000bush to defend record on television Talk shows have garnered key role in presidential politics, and Bush is to be on for the full hour of Meet the Press this Sunday.
01:10:31.000By the way, I have another Associated Press article here.
01:10:34.000The White House is doing multiple-staged Meet the Press I guess you could call it theatrical, uh, what do they call it when the, uh, troop of actors gets together and does their rehearsals?
01:10:49.000They're doing their rehearsals for it!
01:10:51.000And Bush will go on the Tim Russert CFR program and be thrown softballs and tell us how he never said there were weapons of mass destruction and Saddam's real evil and, uh, give your rights up and we'll keep you safe.
01:11:02.000President Bush suggested to his staff that he appear on Meet the Press on Sunday as a way of answering questions about Iraq after a barrage of Democratic criticism against him.
01:11:11.000You see, it's always Democratic criticism, so conservatives go, oh, it must be garbage.
01:11:16.000A White House official said yesterday, Bush's decision to submit to an hour-long interrogation.
01:11:22.000By NBC's Tim Russert comes Democrat John F. Kennedy.
01:11:25.000Terry Howard Dean John Edwards and Leslie Clark have been denouncing him not just on Sunday morning shows but on programs ranging from Hardball and Larry King Live, the David Letterman's Light Show and Jon Stewart's The Daily Show where Edwards announced his Canada deceit.
01:11:41.000The President has stepped up his television presence over the last year or so, granting interviews to ABC's Diane Sawyer, Barbara Walters, NBC's Tom Brokaw, CNBC's Ron Insana, but the time when he was dipped in the polls and is on the defensive over the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq beat the press and its audience of 5 million represents a roll of a dice.
01:12:07.000Well, Bush, I mean, you can just put out some more fake terror alerts.
01:12:33.000Running around all over the place now because they're in a lot of trouble.
01:12:38.000But again, they're just front puppets.
01:12:40.000If the globalists decide to burn them politically, they'll just move their other skull and bones member, John Kerry, in there.
01:12:46.000And I didn't spend enough time on this yesterday.
01:12:48.000I spent about a minute on this yesterday.
01:12:49.000The Houston Chronicle, and this is posted on the website from yesterday's sections, the Houston Chronicle reported that Anthony Scalia, one of the Supreme Court justices, he's not a conservative by the way, he's a phony conservative, Has committed a crime, and it is admittedly a violation of federal and state laws.
01:13:08.000He is the sitting judge in the court case that's coming up in the next two weeks before the Supreme Court, considering Dick Cheney and his Energy Commission blocking documents.
01:13:20.000You're not supposed to have a judge vacationing multiple times publicly.
01:13:52.000$750 billion for Clinton's eight years of criminal activity and then now they've added Now they've added almost half that amount on in just the last three years, so things are accelerating quite nicely.
01:14:05.000We don't discuss that too much, although we should.
01:14:07.000It's no big deal, just in a few AP articles.
01:14:12.000But to have them committing this felony, and they've got it in the Houston Chronicle, which is a neocon paper, to have them just openly flaunting it, we don't care if there's a court case coming up before Scalia, Well, I mean, imagine having a mobster trial and the judge is flying around with, you know, with Don Corleone duck hunting.
01:15:24.000You know, why have two of the members had to secretly testify, according to the Washington Post, because they were, quote, involved somehow in 9-11?
01:15:32.000The Democrat on the committee got given the import-export bank job by Bush when he left the committee.
01:15:39.000Everybody on the White Wash Commission is involved, and they told us Henry Kissinger, who they first tried to have be the head of it, after the first White Wash Commission fell apart.
01:15:48.000People didn't buy that, so they've just got other less-known globalists, but I've looked at all their bios.
01:15:53.000I mean, it's all CFR, Trilateral Commission, World Government, Bank Chairman, you know, former governors, scammers involved in all this.
01:16:03.000Well, this is to find out what we know, you understand?
01:16:06.000This is to create a death list, folks.
01:16:08.000Now, this is so good, NSA people and CIA and FBI go to this committee and then, well, they have automobile accidents, they have heart attacks, this has been happening.
01:16:17.000You just drop by the committee, yeah, let me tell you what I know.
01:16:20.000Go ahead and tell us, sir, we're gonna get to the bottom of this for ya.
01:16:26.000Now, when Condi goes to it, it's so they can take her testimony under national security, then classify it.
01:16:33.000And so she's there to bring it into that envelope, into that shroud, and they're reportedly going to ask her, because it's been confirmed that she's the one that called her longtime buddy, Mayor Willie Brown of San Francisco, the night before and said, don't get on a plane to New York.
01:16:48.000And that's San Francisco Chronicle Associated Press for you, by the way.
01:16:54.000So that's what's going on with the Whitewasher Commission there.
01:16:57.000But don't worry, on the Iraq Commission they're forming, McCain picked for Iraq intelligence probe.
01:17:02.000Whitewasher-in-chief that the media has played up as the man we can all trust, and so good, and such a hero, and total lies as usual.
01:18:02.000You can forget the presidential election, my friends.
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01:18:19.000Desert News out of Utah, Utah Fears Matrix shared personal data, and it comes out they were giving it to American Express and others.
01:19:23.000Because as the Federation of American Scientists gets these documents as soon as they're declassified, and posts them about how they plan to take your guns, bring in foreign troops, put microchips in you, I mean, these are official Army documents!
01:19:35.000And I've been reading them for eight years on the air.
01:19:39.000No matter how crazy this show sounds, I mean, this is how they got the DARPA stuff about how they want to put mine control towers up.
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01:25:48.000And you better watch out, because in 99, the Army War College said they wanted to have a mutual command with Mexico and Canada and bring foreign troops in.
01:25:56.000And then now they made that public two years later.
01:26:03.000Can you imagine what's not declassified?
01:26:06.000And I saw that Sydney Morning Herald article, and I sat there, and I called the Federation of American Scientists up, who posted the document, and the working group with the CIA, Army, Air Force, Marines, and the Federation of American Scientists.
01:26:21.000I said, I'd like to have you on about the Hive Mine document, which the Sydney Morning Herald had a link to!
01:26:27.000And the woman goes, how do you know about that?
01:27:34.000Well, the Army flipped out and started threatening people, started threatening to arrest people who were posting these.
01:27:42.000And we have the emails, the documents, the news articles, it's all in this Federation of American Scientists website.
01:27:49.000The most prestigious group in the country.
01:27:51.000And they go, hey, you gave us the documents, we posted them, and the Army's going, people are paying attention to these, they're getting angry.
01:28:02.000Because I've been railing about this for years.
01:28:04.000I mean, this is where the Boston Globe got their DARPA documents.
01:28:08.000About the, we want to put not just brain scanners on the cell towers, but we want to put systems that can control populations and send out the waves.
01:28:17.000I mean, It's not a Twilight Zone episode.
01:28:51.000Growing frustration over President Bush's immigration plan and lack of fiscal discipline came to a head behind closed doors at last weekend's Republican retreat in Philadelphia.
01:29:02.000House lawmakers, stunned by the intensity of their constituents' displeasure at some of Mr. Bush's key domestic policies, gave his political strategist, Karl Rove, an earful behind closed doors.
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01:32:52.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:33:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:33:09.000You know, this show, the stuff we talk about sounds crazy because it is crazy.
01:33:38.000It's getting even worse with their planning for us.
01:33:40.000We'll talk about that some with Lenny Bloom and Sherman Schoenig.
01:33:43.000I know we have Tim, Brandon, Ron, Wayne, Leslie, and others.
01:33:45.000And what we'll do is early in this interview, because I had a great discussion with Lenny and Sherman last night for an hour on the phone at my house.
01:33:53.000And it was very insightful and free-flowing.
01:33:56.000And so callers, we'll just start talking and taking your calls.
01:33:59.000And then we'll get more into how Lenny Bloom's great show, number one show in the time slot, was canned up in Canada because he was talking about this.
01:34:09.000I've been told, shut up about the New World Order, you're fired, we don't care if you have number one ratings.
01:34:13.000And that even came out in the paper in Austin, and I was told to shut up about the New World Order and wouldn't do it.
01:34:21.000It's when you become a success that you have the problems.
01:34:24.000It isn't true that they just, quote, put on the air what gets listeners.
01:34:28.000So we'll talk about that as well and get into Sherman Skolnick's view of what the New World Order is up to.
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01:37:17.000In a nutshell, what happened to the Cloak and Dagger Show that had become the number one show in that time slot in many of the key demographics in Toronto, Canada?
01:37:27.000To give a background for those that may not be familiar with our work?
01:37:33.000Since 1958, I've been a court reformer.
01:37:36.000Since 63, 40 years now, I've been the founder and chairman of the Citizens Committee to Clean Up the Courts.
01:37:44.000Our work includes identifying judicial bribery and political murders.
01:37:50.000In the 40 years of our group's work with volunteer investigators all over with over a million records, videotapes, and so on, most all the judges in the history of the United States that were sent to jail for bribery were sent in the last 40 years by our work.
01:38:13.000I'm not bragging, I'm telling you it is very tedious work.
01:38:18.000I've been sent to jail, not because I'm a criminal, but repeatedly for contempt of court because our policy is not with rumors or poison pen letters.
01:38:31.000We have confronted judges in court to their face.
01:38:35.000And Sherman, and they've almost killed you and of course you're also in a wheelchair but that didn't stop them.
01:38:47.000Years ago I used to teach investigation at a radio broadcast school.
01:38:52.000So for the 40 years I've been on the periphery of broadcasting and I know most of the celebrities in there and a lot of their dark secrets.
01:39:02.000And I dare mention a lot of the forbidden subjects, and as time permits, we're going to get a list of the forbidden subjects that Lenny Blum and I and others on his program Now, Sherman, in one of your last shows that you guys did, and you do interviews all over the country, but Lenny's particular show that you were a regular on, in the last show, or the next before last show, you had myself and, of course, Andres von Bulow, the German technology minister, on going over it, and the show hit number one ratings, and that's when they seem to can things if they get out of control.
01:39:42.000Lenny Bloom, tell folks about what happened.
01:39:44.000Well, it certainly was a dagger aimed at Big Brother's Achilles heel, and it hit pretty hard.
01:39:51.000And as soon as we put the links to the MP3s on our website, just at the time of the show, as we were going to the show, we linked it up just before the show, about an hour before it, And they get their computers hooked up to the phone lines, and they just send a... The computers start... Millions and millions of lines start, basically, trunk lines into the internet, start hitting your server with requests to give the home page, and put up the home page, and it starts to slow down the computer, slow down the computer, and they block you
01:40:37.000And they blocked the public from the site on the internet.
01:40:40.000Okay, well being clear, just saying it in ten words, you're talking about you've had denial of service attacks.
01:40:46.000Oh yes, we've had denial of service attacks, and they've done everything to stop us, and the last straw was take us off the radio.
01:40:54.000Absolutely, we've had all that diagnosed here as well.
01:40:58.000Too much truth was given to the sheeple, and the Bush crime cartel couldn't let it continue.
01:41:04.000Well, I know for a fact that When Jay Leno talked about me on the Tonight Show, the owners of Shamrock Communications flew down to Austin, they own radio stations, newspapers, all this stuff.
01:41:16.000They flew down, the guy walked up, actually slapped me on the cheek and said, and this is six years ago now, and said, and I've just become syndicated, and they said, look, if you don't shop about Bill Clinton and the New World Order and this Waco thing, you're off the air.
01:41:31.000I said, but my show's number one, it's making you all this money, I'm getting paid almost nothing.
01:41:41.000And I said, no, I'm not going to shut up.
01:41:43.000And a couple, you know, 11 weeks later, they went ahead and canned me.
01:41:46.000But then, of course, the show just got bigger and bigger, but that's where it was coming out of.
01:41:49.000So I have experienced this exact type of thing.
01:41:52.000Now, there's a bunch of issues I want to get into, but I promise these callers, they've been holding forever, we'll go to these calls, bam, bam, bam.
01:41:57.000We're going to have you guys for the whole next hour or two, so we'll get into a whole host of issues and some of the latest news and get your take on it.
01:42:05.000Tim in Ohio, you're on the air with Sherman Skolnick and Lenny Bloom.
01:42:21.000Boy, it's hard to throw a fastball past you.
01:42:22.000It's called, the T.H.E stands for Technical Horizons in Education.
01:42:26.000I want to send you a copy of this and there's a little thing in the middle where you can get your own free subscription if you want.
01:42:31.000There was an article in there called High Tech I'm sorry, High Tech Campus Safety Report was the headline in the article, Creating Safer and More Efficient Schools with... Let me guess, everybody will have to wear an ID badge with an RFID chip that tracks wherever you go in the school?
01:42:47.000Yeah, it's definitely dealing with the biometrics.
01:42:49.000I wanted to, if I could, just a couple of sentences here and let you know, when you read through the lines and you talk to these guys, you can definitely see what's coming.
01:42:57.000Quickly, the most sophisticated non-metric identification systems use smart cards And you know, the card is of course the stepping stone to the programmable chip.
01:43:07.000These cards can hold a substantial amount of data and can be programmed or recharged depending on the application.
01:43:16.000Yeah, by the way, they're finding RFIDs and Walmart products all over the world, store products, tracking what you do, hidden ones in furniture, hidden ones, uh, total control.
01:43:26.000Sherman Skolnick, Lenny Bloom, comments on this whole cashless society control grid.
01:43:37.000On the website www.cloakanddagger.ca they have an archive of stories jointly written by me and Lenny Bloom called Middle Finger News and if you scroll on it you'll find a story about Walmart being a spy operation Working under contract for the secret political police such as the FBI.
01:44:06.000By the way, a year ago, Catherine Albrecht brought that out.
01:44:09.000They got the public documents with Walmart meeting with Ridge and others with over a hundred other CEOs.
01:44:16.000Yeah, so your listeners can read that for themselves and that would be, I'm giving a short answer to a longer situation to your caller.
01:44:29.000Well, the question is, Lenny, how do we stop this?
01:44:31.000I mean, the average person still doesn't even know what's happening.
01:44:35.000Well, after we take the calls, Alex, I suggest that Lenny and I tell briefly what we're doing with the program and what type of subjects we're putting on the air that are considered generally absolutely forbidden subjects to be on major stations.
01:44:59.000And that is, it was Von Bulow who pointed out, I think one of the most important parts of the Von Bulow thing, is that Von Bulow pointed out that, asked the question, is there somebody at all who can convince Americans against their media that what's being said about them in foreign lands is different from what's being said to them back at home?
01:45:24.000And that was a key of the Von Buelow thing that at some point today we want to really get into.
01:45:29.000Well, yeah, there's different brands of propaganda for different classes, different countries.
01:46:47.000One of the things that I have brought out before the public about the media is that of the three major networks, from time to time, one of the networks, CBS, had the secret CIA subsidy, which means they ran their overseas branches Not to compile news, very little news came out of the Moscow and London and other bureaus, but it was a vacuum pump for intelligence, and in 88 and 89, the CIA subsidy went to ABC network, and it promoted the Ted Koppel Nightline program.
01:47:31.000Now there's a big fight between CBS and ABC, because the CIA subsidy contract Uh, quite a bit of money is being, uh, switched from ABC back to CBS.
01:47:45.000It is a forbidden subject, and, uh, if you try to discuss it...
01:47:49.000as we have a major blow chart station, you get in trouble.
01:47:54.000Yeah, Sherman, let me actually, this has come out mainstream.
01:47:57.000Pentagon running CNN, that came out in 99.
01:48:00.000The Pentagon Office of Strategic Information two years ago said we're
01:48:04.000going to plant fake news stories and lie to you.
01:48:07.000We know that when you, you know, the public service announcement money from the
01:48:12.000federal government is the payoff to the networks.
01:48:15.000By the way, it's in the tens of millions of dollars.
01:48:19.000Every drama is about torture and secret arrests and how good it is.
01:48:23.000One of the forbidden subjects, Alex, is currently there has started a week ago a one-year long expected trial of the Bank of England involved in a major scandal involving The BCCI.
01:48:41.000Yeah, that came out in the Times of London.
01:48:42.000But the thing that I write about BCCI is that they played a key role with John Kerry, who's running for president, and with the formation of CNN with Ted Turner.
01:48:57.000And that is forbidden to be discussed.
01:48:59.000And it's that type of thing that gets you taken off the air, at least on major stations.
01:49:04.000Well, you know, again, they can target shows that are just on one station.
01:49:09.000And again, I want to state, Sherman, that you say, you know, you have this and you've been saying it for years, but it has come out now.
01:49:17.000I mean, the things you're saying are public.
01:49:19.000So, I mean... The point is, there is no, hardly any news.
01:49:24.000A journalist just called me from London before we went on the air with you, Alex.
01:49:29.000And there's only one person in the public gallery of the trial court in London where Bank of England is on trial for having committed a massive worldwide fraud regarding BCCI.
01:49:43.000Okay, we're going to go back to calls.
01:49:44.000Ron in New York, go ahead, you're on the air.
01:49:48.000There's a book, The Eternal Surveillance.
01:49:50.000Hold on a minute, turn your radio off, please.
01:49:52.000Okay, the NSA, the big brother NSA and his little brother is Terry Cook.
01:49:58.000The National Security Agency's Global Surveillance Network.
01:50:04.000Well, that's what that is, but that's the book.
01:50:05.000Of course, as you know, what we're fighting here is the setting of the stage to bring on the Tertallian Antichrist government and the people who don't believe this now will suffer later According to Second Thessalonians 10, 11, and 12.
01:50:29.000Well, there is a massive brainwashing operation going on.
01:50:33.000Includes the ad industry, and the cell phone company, transmitters, and psycho-electronic mind control.
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01:54:30.000Alex, I wanted to ask you, and I'm sure your guests would like to chime in on this, for you to just play teacher for a moment and tell us how this psychological inoculation occurs.
01:54:41.000You'd expect that with the revelations of a movie like Matrix or Minority Report, that when things actually began to develop that reflected those themes of the movies, that people would be indignant and say, you're not doing that here!
01:54:53.000But the movies don't have that effect.
01:54:56.000It actually desensitizes because the way mammals are designed, once we've been acclimated by something, we accept that even if it's horrible, and by the way, Stuff like Minority Report comes out after that stuff's already in place.
01:55:07.000The advertisement industry is already at that point of much of what you see in that film.
01:55:14.000Steven Spielberg attends, the only Hollywood person that does, Bilderberg Group meetings almost every year, and that's mainstream news.
01:55:21.000Lenny Bloom, you want to talk about this?
01:55:25.000If you put people inside a microwave oven and Turn on the heat, you're going to start to heat their brains up.
01:55:33.000And they've got these cell sites and they're broadcasting from the cell sites and now you're living in a city, but it's really a microwave oven.
01:55:45.000And by the way, for folks that don't believe that, the Army War College, the Boston Globe, they are saying they want to put mine control towers up.
01:55:54.000I mean, that sounds totally nuts, but that's mainstream news, and again, you wonder why folks can't respond to it.
01:56:00.000It sounds like science fiction, but it's going on.
01:57:55.000We'll come back and finish up with Leslie and John and David and Phillip and a few others.
01:58:02.000Then we're going to not take calls for 20 minutes or so and get into some of these news items and then go back into calls with our two guests, Sherman Skolnick and, of course, Lenny Bloom.
01:58:10.000The website is cloakanddagger.ca based out of Toronto, Canada.
01:58:15.000And, of course, Sherman Skolnick is in Chicago, Illinois.
01:58:18.000I'm Alex Jones coming to you live from Austin, Texas on this live Friday edition.
01:58:26.000Got a bunch of different news items I want to get our listeners and our guests to take on.
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02:00:29.000And Sherman, I know you know all about this corruption, of course, the Supreme Court and all that, but how they put it right out in the open, kind of a psychological inoculation.
02:00:37.000Houston Chronicle, a couple days ago, I covered it yesterday.
02:00:41.000Admits it's a felony, but says, eh, no big deal.
02:00:44.000Anthony Scalia, Supreme Court Justice, is about to hear a case concerning the cover-ups and obstruction by Dick Cheney of Energy Commission documents.
02:00:54.000And two weeks before this is coming up, they're off on vacations together on Air Force Two, and he's taking Scalia hunting.
02:01:02.000Now, in a mafia case, imagine the mob boss taking the judge on vacation.
02:01:07.000This is patently illegal, but they do it out in the open.
02:01:12.000Your comments on that, and just why they're so arrogant.
02:01:17.000Well, we have a series on our website, SkolnicksReport.com, called Coca-Cola CIA in the Courts.
02:01:29.000And there you will see a court-filed petition setting forth the four judges within the court system, well, more than four judges, within the U.S.
02:01:43.000Supreme Court and one step below, who are under financial control, including Anton Scalia.
02:01:56.000They used money from Coca-Cola, the time doesn't permit, on the radio to give all the details.
02:02:02.000However, the details are set forth in the series that I've just mentioned on our website, and that's Coca-Cola CIA.
02:02:12.000Yeah, but I want you to comment, Sherman, specifically on them out in the open, engaging in crimes in front of us.
02:02:19.000Well, we remember telling state secrets is not allowed, even if they are right under the public's noses, right Sherman?
02:02:28.000Well, here's the thing that I want to get to just briefly.
02:02:34.000Scalia and others high up in the court system, identified by us, while on the bench, continue to represent The billion-dollar stock portfolio of the University of Chicago, from whose law school Scalia and the other three come from,
02:03:02.000I want you to comment on how Dick Cheney can publicly violate federal law and fly around and take the... Well, they're knights of the star chamber.
02:03:22.000Alex, one of the things that we write about is the dispute behind the scenes between George W. Bush and Richard Cheney over a division of the oil.
02:03:36.000Cheney is in with those that are involved with the Trans-Siberian Oil Pipeline headed for Japan, whereas Bush is involved with the one that was proposed to go through Afghanistan, and that underlies some of these situations that you're talking about uh... where they cover up for shady and red quest and scalia
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02:08:09.000In the last segment, I bring up the Houston Chronicle article, and there are others, where we've got Dick Cheney on Air Force Two, flying around on multiple hunting trips, While the Supreme Court prepares to hear a case concerning Dick Cheney, flying him around duck hunting.
02:08:33.000And I understand why Sherman goes, okay, we'll talk about Scalia and Cheney, let's talk about the really big corrupt things they're doing.
02:08:39.000I mean, sure, we could talk about $87 billion, and no bids allowed, and Halliburton, and scamming, and admittedly stealing... Can I answer your previous question?
02:08:56.000From my 40 years of experience, here is a quick answer.
02:09:01.000The federal system, in particular in the courts, is loaded with these conflicts of interest There is no remedy unless, somehow, through very clever means, any of us alternative media people are able to touch off a major scandal wherein the aristocracy has to throw away one of these judges.
02:09:26.000Unless and until you could set off, somehow, a major scandal, these types of conflicts of interest are inherent in an inherently corrupt Federal Judiciary.
02:09:39.000I understand that, but it seems that they're doing psychological inoculation where they openly now do it and go, so what?
02:09:46.000Whereas in the past they would creep around and do all this.
02:10:13.000You know, James, you know, long ago Americans resigned their consciences over to the bureaucrats who are now under the control of the monarchies themselves.
02:10:38.000Also, Sherman, I want to get your take on the lotteries.
02:10:40.000I've seen clear evidence that not just the electronic voting machines are a fraud, we know they are, but now that the lottery systems are a fraud.
02:10:54.000there have been books about the history of the lottery system in america
02:10:58.000And now with the proprietary software, what they do, and we showed it on one of our non-commercial cable TV shows in Chicago, after the lottery for the public is closed, under their proprietary software, they issue another lottery ticket to a chosen winner.
02:11:21.000And here in Illinois, for example, Uh, top officials of the local media have been mysteriously winners of the lottery.
02:11:54.000Right here in Austin, Hollywood Henderson.
02:11:57.000you know the the the cowboy football player does a lot of government work for
02:12:00.000the you know and and and appeal anti-drug propaganda he magically one was it thirty
02:12:06.000mail just this is exactly police chiefs people that pass the lottery
02:12:10.000laws but i just told you how it's done
02:12:12.000well listen that's what i've got we've talked to people
02:12:17.000at at the news stations where they shoot the lottery and they say oh we'll shoot
02:12:20.000it four or five times quote so we get the balls to come out right
02:12:24.000And then, I've talked to people at the stores where they sell the lotteries, they go, yeah, 45 minutes before the lottery is called, they shut it down, and then we know that they're shaping the numbers.
02:12:35.000Well, if it was just a real lottery, they'd run it up to two minutes before.
02:12:39.000Sherman, what about the lottery reminds us of the extortion money Bush is paying to keep things quiet.
02:12:45.000By the way, by the way, by the way, what really got the Fortunate Son guy who wrote, the Hatfield who wrote Fortunate Son, whacked, is his book is about Bush and the lottery scamming here in Texas.
02:13:23.000What happened is that the Federal Reserve skimmed off or embezzled billions of dollars from Enron, causing them to go bankrupt.
02:13:31.000And the money is being used through hocus-pocus called derivatives to temporarily pump up the stock market to get the suckers in at the top so they can be clipped.
02:13:57.000You don't discuss the Federal Reserve.
02:13:59.000And the money that was skimmed off of Enron?
02:14:02.000And what about Wendy Graham, the wife of retired Senator Phil Graham of Texas?
02:14:09.000How come she's not being prosecuted for reportedly covering up the massive fraud of Enron, of which she was the director?
02:14:18.000And Hollywood did a whole movie of it called Die Hard with a Vengeance, that whole thing with Die Hard where Where ultimately it was just a heist of the U.S.
02:15:29.000Look, guys, I'm saying, you talk about the sheeple, they've got the lotteries, their own private payoff system, and the average idiot's still buying it!
02:15:38.000Now, when people say, oh no, they never do that, oh no, the people that run gambling, hold on, Sherman, the people that run gambling, they're real trustworthy, let's just, come on, folks.
02:17:28.000And thank you, Mr. Skolnick and Mr. Bloom, for exposing the conflicts of interest and oil interests as well.
02:17:36.000As both of you know, the Queen is the majority stockholder of British Petroleum, BP.
02:17:43.000And between the formal ceremonies of the Queen knighting Greenspan, the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and Bush Sr.
02:17:49.000Which, by the way, is illegal according to the Constitution.
02:17:52.000Well, you know, just last year she just knighted the former mayor of New York, Giuliani.
02:17:58.000But would Mr. Skolnick share the information that he has?
02:18:04.000In regards to the Federal Reserve, and the wire transfers, and the other accounts, with the joint bank accounts that the Queen has with the Bush family.
02:18:34.000Look, I wrote a series called Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush and on cloakanddagger.ca is the secret Federal Reserve wire transfer authorized by Greenspan involving a hundred billion dollar joint account between the Bush crime family and Queen Elizabeth The second, in her private bank in London, Coots Bank London, and who is the third party to the deal?
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02:24:02.000All right, my friends, Alex Jones here, back live.
02:24:05.000We've got a lot of callers here I want to go to, but shifting gears yet again, Sherman Skolnik, Lenny Bloom, we've all talked a lot about, interviewed all the experts.
02:24:13.000I've made two films, written a book on the subject.
02:24:15.000September 11th, clearly the Globalist carried that out.
02:24:19.000Clearly, they would have already carried out more terror attacks if they wouldn't have been exposed for being behind these.
02:24:24.000I think they're concerned from the evidence to move forward.
02:24:27.000What's your analysis, Sherman and Lenny, on when they're going to blow some more stuff up to scare us into submission?
02:24:39.000We'll do that coming up in the next segment, Sherman.
02:24:42.000We want to discuss briefly what the program that they took off the air tried to do in 76 weeks.
02:24:49.000And a quick list of the forbidden subjects, so that the public will get some idea of what we have been trying to educate the public about.
02:24:58.000Sure, but you know, when I've been on your show, I don't get six minutes uninterrupted, but that's fine.
02:25:03.000Well, yeah, look, Sherman, let me just say this and answer the question.
02:25:09.000Basically, the CIA has put America into a state of gigantic pictorial illusionism.
02:25:16.000And journalistic exaggeration of concealment.
02:25:19.000They scrubbed off their minds just like the flashy thingy thing in the movie Men in Black.
02:25:25.000Let's deal with this question about 9-1-1, right?
02:25:29.000The New York Times on August 18th, 2001, ran a strange story about the people that were living inside one of the World Trade Centers, of which the security originally told the New York Times there's nobody there.
02:25:44.000And when the tragedy happened on September 11th, they didn't refer back to their own article.
02:25:50.000Further, right before 9-1-1 came out the book, Body of Secrets, by James Bamford, where he published these secret documents how the crazies in the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 62 wanted to instigate an invasion of Cuba by blowing up American airplanes and buildings And killing Americans to blame on Castro.
02:26:14.000Well, I have the document, it's not just that book.
02:26:17.000I know, but the point is, 9-1-1 basically is a follow-up of that same plan of 39 years later.
02:26:39.000The New World Order wouldn't fit into the old space unless it had some violent alterations and re-tailoring.
02:26:52.000And 9-11 is one of those alterations and re-tailoring that occupy most of the so-called news because they're trying to shimmy their system into place.
02:27:03.000And if they can shimmy it without it, they'll do it.
02:27:05.000Otherwise, they'll have to have some big terrorist event.
02:27:09.000Okay, but the point is, the next so-called attack, there has been no attack on the United States by Arabs.
02:27:16.000There's Patsies like Lee Harvey Oswald.
02:27:19.000The Arabs were not directly involved with 9-1-1 except as Patsies.
02:28:04.000And, and, I believe that an emergency panel, not provided for in the Constitution, will, a troika, three people, will run the government without the Constitution because of financial disaster and things along those lines.
02:28:23.000Uh, of which the public is not prepared.
02:28:26.000The public is being misled into a fake prosperity plan.
02:28:30.000Well, Sherman, Sherman, we have the head of North Com Singh Martial Law, the outgoing head of South Com Singh Martial Law.
02:28:37.000And so they're definitely trying to prepare us for something, but they'll still just put a puppet in.
02:28:41.000I mean, the President's not running anything right now.
02:28:43.000So why would they put a, you know, I know they're getting ready for committee boards and FEMA takeovers, that's admitted, but I don't see why they'd go ahead and use that unless they want to get rid of all illusions that this is a free country.
02:28:56.000Alex, some of the federal courthouses are being closed to reporters, litigants, and lawyers.
02:29:06.000It's a forbidden subject, which I know a lot about.
02:29:10.000I cannot go into the federal courthouse.
02:29:14.000I have been, by the Chief Judge, ordered to be blocked from all the federal courts in the Midwest.
02:29:22.000It's unconstitutional, but there's no use to discuss the First Amendment.
02:29:27.000My First Amendment has been cancelled!
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02:33:23.000But they put it in the back of the paper like it's no big deal.
02:33:27.000I find that to be the new propaganda tactic, is to just throw it out there and just say, go ahead and accept it.
02:33:39.000Yeah, I think that the term cloak and dagger epitomizes exactly what it is that Sherman and all of us are saying is the modus operandi of the powers that be is a cloak and dagger operation where they basically hide behind a complex smoke and mirror machine that maintains their bread and circus shows.
02:34:04.000And that's certainly what you've really been on and doing a great job bringing out yourself, Alex.
02:34:14.000Well, folks should go to cloakanddagger.ca.
02:34:18.000And on our website, let me just give it again, it's www.cloakanddagger.ca.
02:34:24.000And our mirror site is TheMediaNews.com, and that's sort of a mirror site in case they hit cloak and dagger too hard.
02:34:34.000You can always go to TheMediaNews.com, but sure, I just wanted to throw that out there, and we used to have some good times, Alex.
02:34:41.000I think it's important to learn to play with the subject, and having different songs as we did, the Illuminati song and the Spine songs, is a great way of breaking the ice and furthering exploration.
02:34:53.000Okay, for those that just joined us, I'd like to say something.
02:34:56.000For those that just joined us, Again, I've been on the show probably 10, 15 times.
02:37:19.000Alex, there's an interesting development that really is this whole development that came out of the scientists that we spoke to who worked on hologram development.
02:37:30.000And it all started in 1973 with the Yom Kippur War.
02:37:34.000Because with the suitcase-tool missiles that were 100% accurate and 100% idiot-proof, you could give it to anybody with a kindergarten education, and it was 100% accurate and knocked out their tanks, in order to develop and keep the tank warfare, they started to develop the holograms.
02:37:56.000And the hologram technology, so that when one tank goes out into the field, there's a satellite overhead, and now there's 16 tanks surrounding it.
02:38:06.000And the technology of the hologram just has been kept from people, so that they could run a tank right up your street, and if you looked out your bathroom window, you'd swear it was a tank, unless you walked out there, and then you'd find that it just was a light illusion, a trick of the light.
02:38:23.000Well, they admit, I mean that's even on the Discovery Channel, that the Pentagon can project Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, whatever they want up into the night sky, and we got reports that in Iraq that stuff was used in the First Gulf War.
02:38:35.000I know, but when they can even project airplanes that appear to go into a building and knock You know, I've seen that, but guys, hold on just a second.
02:39:02.000I know that the major Spanish newspaper, and I've got it on the website right now, has had top experts look at the belly attachment on one of the planes.
02:39:57.000They're telling, they've told America that a little piece of glass... Yeah, but guys, you talk about documenting everything, you know, 98% of what you've been saying I can prove, you know, this, I don't, it's speculation.
02:40:06.000The reason they took that pane of glass off, Sherman, the reason they took the pane of glass off And put a balcony out there was, of course, to do the necessary lazy... And I have seen that New York... Just stop, just stop, just stop, just stop.
02:40:21.000You know, I have seen the New York Times article where there was this weird group of Germans up there in one of the buildings and they did take the... paint a glass off and put this balcony out there, but again, that's not... that's not proof.
02:40:33.000Alex... Yeah, but Alex... Alex, to take a pane of glass off a building which is that huge That is something that you just don't do lightly because of
02:41:15.000Again, clearly there were bombs, clearly the seismographs, the firefighters, but the firefighters saying the fires were almost gone, I mean, that's what jet fuel would do, that's what a plane would do, it would go out.
02:41:26.000So again, guys, you know, I just, I don't, I cannot, I don't believe that that's what happened.
02:41:33.000And I know they have these technologies, but it's not an area I get into because I can't prove it.
02:41:41.000And, you know, that's always been important to do that.
02:41:45.000Again, I mean, there's all other, you know, sorts of things that are being reported out there.
02:41:49.000You saw Silverstein's statement that you have to pull the building, as he said, regarding Trade Center No.
02:42:22.000Sure we understand what you're saying.
02:42:25.000Lenny showed on his website that the plane pulled up like a napkin and went through a hole in the building and that's physically not possible.
02:42:38.000Well, the size of the hole left, they show you the plane going into the building completely intact.
02:42:47.000And physically, in actuality, if you look at a real computer model simulation, the aftershock of the nose instantaneously hitting the building reverberates and breaks off the tail.
02:43:00.000So it can't go intact into a building.
02:43:03.000So somebody's creating some trick of the light.
02:43:21.000Yes, I wanted to discuss a couple case histories of the forbidden subjects, and I was just reading an article in ISReview.org magazine And they were pointing out that many of the people, these fascist neocons in the Bush administration, not only have found a home in the Reagan administration when they were instigating and supporting these death squads in Central America... Hold on a minute.
02:43:48.000Somebody's heavy breathing on the phone.
02:43:52.000But their original home was in the Cold War mongering faction of the Democratic Party when they worked for the Scoop Jackson Senator from Boeing, the military-industrial faction of the Democratic Party.
02:44:06.000And one of the people was Paul Nitze, the former Undersecretary of Defense, who was one of the key orchestrators of Project Northwoods way back in the 60s.
02:44:17.000Whereas he passed on, he'd probably end up in the Bush II administration if he hadn't.
02:44:23.000But many of these people originally came from that section in the Democratic Party, and beyond that, The role of the Central Intelligence Agency in the media was brought out by Carl Bernstein of the Washington Post, but he couldn't get it written in his own Washington Post because, of course, he indicted all of the media, including the Washington Post, the New York Times, all of the networks, Time Newsweek, as having collaborated.
02:44:49.000Yeah, and you've got Jane Graham in there, and the Bilderberg Group, and now her son.
02:44:54.000Go ahead, gentlemen, any comments on what John just said?
02:44:58.000How come the media didn't discuss the Northwood thing that came out in that book right before 9-1-1?
02:45:06.000When you look at the Northwood thing, you change a few words and a few dates, it's the same thing that happened in 9-1-1.
02:45:41.000You've got a Limbaugh getting paid $287 million and there's not that much profit in the show.
02:45:46.000We've talked about how the media is subsidized by the government and their public service announcements and other things, but sure, go ahead.
02:45:54.000From my years of experience, the way I analyze it is with arithmetic and details.
02:46:00.000I find out how much it costs for a 30-second ad, how much is the estimated amount that Sean Hannity and Russ Limbaugh get, and when you do that, you find out he does not have that many good ads to warrant the amount per week that each of them gets, and therefore you know there is some secret subsidy out there.
02:46:21.000Well, let me give folks an example of this.
02:46:23.000They have a thing called Austin Air Force here in Austin.
02:47:05.000Well, the point is, the numbers don't add up.
02:47:08.000And those that are warmongers, that want the American aristocracy to lash out like Hitler against Syria, against Lebanon, whatever it is, to take us away from the Bill of Rights, And to become an aggressive, dictatorial country.
02:47:28.000And those that are for warmongering, they get the major positions on these major blowtorch stations.
02:49:26.000Okay, let me just get my steel and then I'll be gone.
02:49:27.000I just want to say that I'm outraged that our president and his illicit administration of tycoons gave terrorist Pakistan $3 billion of our tax money solely for military purposes.
02:49:37.000The Pakistani so-called defense, while the founder of their new program is pardoned and not even reprimanded for proliferating WMDs through the road states.
02:49:47.000Our government arms China, arms North Korea, arms Pakistan, proliferates the weapons, and then says we've got to invade all these countries to keep us safe.
02:49:54.000Yeah, and the mainstream media won't even give this issue three minutes of coverage.
02:49:58.000This should be the number one story that our own president, our own boss, his own deeds, is an enemy combatant and a funder of terror.
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02:54:33.000Well, you talk about the government trying to make laws where we're all caught in the net, where people that weren't criminals are, Seven years in jail, $150,000 fine if you don't tell the world your email and home address.
02:54:49.000And it says, uh, this is out of the register.
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02:55:05.000Senator Lamar Smith, a fake conservative of Texas, Chairman of the Courts, the Internet and Intellectual Property Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee, yesterday produced, from nowhere, extensions to the 1946 Trademark Act that would make giving false contact information for a domain name a civil and criminal offense.
02:55:27.000And you move, and you forget to change that address on there, or there's a letter or a number wrong in it, seven years in prison, Yeah, $150,000 fine.
02:55:37.000And it's actually covered under terror sections.
02:55:39.000So, sending an email to the wrong person, life in prison, or trying to pass that.
02:55:54.000The nuclear supermarket, this is the London Telegraph, and it's what the caller was just talking about, and I'll talk more about this on Monday, obviously.
02:56:04.000Intelligence agencies and nuclear inspectors are racing to close a vast international nuclear supermarket that has secretly supplied Iran, Libya, North Korea, and perhaps several other countries for more than a decade.
02:56:14.000And their buddy, General Musarraf, who runs Pakistan, U.S.
02:56:18.000companies gave it all to him publicly.