Alex Jones reveals the truth about the Bush administration's secret bioweapon program. Big Brother and the media are covering up the truth, and Alex Jones is here to expose it. Alex Jones and his guests: Joel Skousen, the nephew of Leon Skelson, an expert on the New World Order, and Michael Trudell.
00:01:37.000We'll be talking about the supposed upcoming terror attacks that the globalists are sure to launch, unless we expose who stands to gain from terror and who's carried out the past terror attacks, who's joining us in the second hour.
00:01:48.000In the third hour, one of the folks from the Sunshine Project that researches government documents, And does a lot of Freedom of Information Act requests.
00:01:58.000We're going to be covering race-specific bio-weapons and biological weapons generally.
00:02:03.000Because the government claims this big program, BioShield, this 5.8 billion, Bush wanted 6.4 billion, he got 5.8 billion, to build three dozen level four bio-weapons labs, many of them in your town or city.
00:02:20.000And the Baltimore News a few years ago called it, you know, facilities that would produce thousands of gallons of liquid death, I believe was the quote.
00:02:34.000Ebola, race-specific weapons, you name it.
00:02:44.000Back in 2000, in their September release, Nick Cheney talking about Saddam isn't a threat, he's a convenient pretext to secure the oil supplies, it'll be a great military launch base.
00:02:57.000In that same Rebuilding America's Defense's September 2000 document, that's on their website right now, they don't even hide this, PNAC.info, that we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons.
00:03:12.000And of course, the group I really respect that told us about the B-2 bomber five years before it was announced in the late eighties, Jane's Weapons Encyclopedia, out of England, has put out alerts and warnings, which you never really see them do, that the US, England, and Israel, as well as Russia, have been developing these for decades.
00:03:37.000And we're talking about bioweapons that will kill Every black person on earth, every white person on earth, every Asian on earth, it will kill everyone.
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00:03:54.000And they're just breeding this, and then they, every few years we see a report of, oh the weaponized foot and mouth got released from the big weapons lab in Wilshire, England.
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00:08:09.000Alright, my friends, we're now into the second segment, eight minutes and fifteen seconds into this three-hour global transmission against tyranny, this worldwide broadcast as we blast out on the AM and FM dial from Los Angeles, California, to Providence, Rhode Island, from Austin, Texas, to Denver, Colorado.
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00:09:13.000I've got all this news in front of me, Ronald Reagan lying in state for the last day today, Ray Charles, who I was a fan of, You know, kind of the prototype of Stevie Wonder, I guess.
00:09:26.000A bunch of Iraq news, a bunch of police state big brother, world ID card news, but this happens a lot of times.
00:09:35.000You know, I start the show and then just suddenly a topic that I've been studying and looking at that I think is really important pops into my head again and I want to talk about that first.
00:09:45.000Because we are going to get the Sunshine Project They again research secret documents and public documents and do FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act requests.
00:09:58.000They're ringing the alarm bell about Western governments, the Russians, the British, the Israelis, the U.S., developing race-specific bioweapons.
00:10:08.000We're talking about weaponized viruses and bacteria that are already ninety percent fatal when they're not When they're not weaponized, and now they're weaponizing, where you get a 99% kill rate in many cases, and kills you rather quickly.
00:10:25.000Because you look at the big picture here, the globalist at the college professor level, let's say at the department head level, most of the big department heads at major universities, UT, Princeton, Yale, MIT, I don't want to say most, but let's say Again, 99%.
00:10:47.000I really haven't found one of them that isn't.
00:10:50.000Are members of the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:10:53.000And then you have mostly heads of banking, and media, and other key positions in government.
00:11:01.000Most are committee chairmen in the House and Senate.
00:11:06.000In fact, the last president we had who wasn't CFR, or Trilateral Commissioner CFR, or Bilderberg Group, Uh... was Ronald Reagan but his cabinet was packed with them uh... but uh... again the point I'm trying to make here is that when you're at a department level discussion
00:11:28.000Because we've gone and sat in on these UT meetings, and almost every symposium is called the New World Order, World War IV, the future of the New World Order, I mean most of the symposiums they have, and literally there'll be like former CI directors, some professors in a room, it's open to the public, but no one shows up.
00:11:51.000They're talking about New World Order this, New World Order that.
00:11:54.000But when you really get into these discussions, and you read the white papers they write, and you look at what the elite are saying and doing, it's basically this.
00:12:04.000Bio-weapons are more threatening to society than nuclear weapons, and because of the advances in technology and the cracking of the human genome, That the U.S.
00:12:16.000government may have made public in its joint exercise with IBM.
00:12:20.000Due to this, we now, at this current date, face total extinction at the extreme end of things and billions of people dying on the lesser end of the scale.
00:12:36.000And because of this great threat, we must have a tyrannical world government.
00:12:43.000Every industry must be run and regulated and inspected by armed UN guards in any biotech factory.
00:12:53.000And we've got to do this to stop total extinction.
00:12:57.000And let me tell you, that sells the bright 165 IQ graduate students being groomed to be servants inside the New World Order.
00:13:10.000And this is the first thing they're told.
00:13:13.000And by the way, over the years I've talked about how one of the biggest radio networks tried to hire me and I met with some of their executives five, six years ago.
00:13:22.000And I've talked to others and they've gotten the same spiel.
00:13:28.000And, you know, to an intelligent, informed person, it sounds reasonable.
00:13:31.000My gosh, we've got to have world government because of the proliferation of nuclear weapons and chemical weapons, but more importantly, biological weapons, race-specific, or systems that will kill any human that comes in contact with it, period.
00:13:46.000Though they say statistically, even if it was the most deadly weapon imaginable, some people will have a natural immunity, though a very small percentage.
00:13:53.000So we look at that picture and we say, okay, Okay, world government is the answer.
00:13:58.000Alex, then why aren't you for world government?
00:14:00.000I mean, only world government can stop this from happening.
00:14:03.000I mean, it's only a matter of time until some crazy Arab country comes up with some race-specific bioweapon to kill, you know, northern Europeans or Jews or something.
00:14:17.000It's only a matter of time until the Chinese do this, and, you know, release it on the Japanese, because they've got race-specific weapons that'll kill certain subgroups.
00:14:27.000Certain subgroups have certain genetic markers.
00:14:29.000You could develop, they brag, and I'm sure they have, race-specific bioweapons that'll kill just one African tribe.
00:14:39.000That's why Israel has been studying race-specific weapons, and I've seen white papers on it that have been published publicly by scientific journals, that Israel doesn't want to use them because, well, quite frankly, if you're a real Jew, I mean, really Semitic from that area, you basically have the exact same genetics as the Palestinians or the Arabs.
00:15:03.000Well, you see, But because of most of the people that came back into Israel, they're really, in most cases, three-quarters European, you know, with the blonde hair and the blue eyes, that really is kind of the ruling class over there.
00:16:08.000We have to worry about the South Africans.
00:16:10.000Anywhere you have a high level of technological development, you can have this happen.
00:16:17.000But the most outspoken and forward-looking, you could say, in all of this has been Israel, and now Dick Cheney spouting off about how we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons.
00:16:31.000So we have the New World Order crowd itself that sells people into joining it That we have to have a tyrannical world government to stop bioweapons releases, but then meanwhile, it is the globalists developing these systems, building the factories, making it, proliferating it, selling the technology to these third world countries, chemical, biological, and nuclear, radiological.
00:16:58.000So time and time again, I mean it was three years ago, the Australian government took a mousepox strain Made it a hundred percent fatal, and then put out the recipe publicly, on purpose.
00:17:10.000Published it, with government approval, on the university's website, about how to take any mammal, take the mouse pox, change it for that mammal, and create a pox that kills one hundred, one hundred percent of those that come in contact with it.
00:17:27.000Now, why on earth would the government of Australia release that?
00:17:32.000Why on earth Is our own government doing this?
00:17:53.000You see, they want to not just use the threat of this crisis emerging to get total tyranny in world government.
00:18:01.000They want to have a controlled, specific release of this.
00:18:05.000And now it's over 50 top microbiologists and bioweapons treatment or development who could analyze and tell you where something came from, where it was developed, dying in airlocks, being run over by cars, then backed over, being shot in the head, being stabbed to death.
00:18:24.000Being tortured to death in the case of a top Virginia scientist before he was killed.
00:18:29.000It's happening in Australia, Russia, Israel, the U.S., Canada.
00:18:48.000Obviously, if you look at all the evidence, because somebody plans on using this.
00:18:52.000And I'm not trying to scare you folks.
00:18:54.000I just want you to know what's really going on.
00:18:57.000And so, the globalists use this threat to fearmonger and get people to morally go, well, we've got to be the most ruthless, the most cunning, we've got to have a dictatorial, you know, face scan, world ID card, microchip population, because technology's too powerful and we'll destroy ourselves if we don't.
00:19:16.000But instead of making treaties, and deals, and paying countries not to, and having them voluntarily do all this, which would work, And having it through a real agreement through a constitutional republic form of government.
00:19:30.000No, they're setting up a tyrannical world government while racing ahead to cause this cataclysm to take place.
00:19:37.000And I'll tell you the most scary piece of evidence when we get back.
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00:25:18.000And so, we have the globalists producing all of this, saying, let's legitimize the use of race-specific bioweapons, is what Dick Cheney said.
00:25:26.000By the way, that's not just been on their own website, it's been the one in Guardian.
00:25:29.000Michael Meacher, that was the last straw for the Environment Minister when he resigned in England.
00:25:32.000He said, look, if you didn't do 9-11, you had prior knowledge of it, and by the way, you said you want to use race-specific bioweapons, you people are psychopaths, and he pointed out where they set it.
00:25:41.000So, I mean, this is incredible stuff, folks.
00:25:44.000But the biggest, scariest point is, is not just that they're out promoting that they want to get rid of 85 to 95 percent of it.
00:25:51.000It runs from 80 to 95 percent in different estimates.
00:25:56.000If you live in Switzerland, within a few miles from your house is a giant luxury bunker with two years of food and water, its own air cleaning system, tennis courts, weight lifting facilities.
00:26:09.000If you live in Russia, they have nice bunkers for you.
00:26:12.000If you live in China, they have nice bunkers for you.
00:27:34.000They've got huge underground locomotives that can just cut through four feet of solid rock an hour, honeycombing the country.
00:27:42.000And seismographs all over the nation have picked these up, you know, this slow grinding hum that they know is the signature of these tunnelers.
00:27:51.000So, they're building these giant luxury cities for the elite.
00:27:55.000You know, I guess the 20% they're not going to kill, or the 5% of it's Ted Turner's estimate.
00:28:03.000And by the way, even Reuters and MSNBC and the New York Times have reported how billionaires are all buying private islands with security and electric fences in the Caribbean.
00:28:15.000And, you know, how they've got jets always fueled wherever they're at, ready to fly out of the nation.
00:28:24.000And then right during 9-11, Bush runs to Moffett Air Force Base in Nebraska and meets with all these CEO leaders.
00:28:30.000I mean, they were all meeting earlier that morning before Bush even got there with Warren Buffett and all these top CEOs.
00:28:38.000And they throw a lot of what they're going to do to us in our faces.
00:28:43.000I was talking to a school teacher yesterday, and he said, yeah, the news is entertainment, and the entertainment is propaganda.
00:28:50.000Now, again, the news is entertainment, and then the TV shows are propaganda.
00:28:56.000And he's absolutely right, but an MI6 agent wrote the James Bond books, and in Moonrakers you have this Illuminati leader who wants to kill the world population to save the environment, and he releases this bio-weapon and they barely stop it.
00:29:10.000But this is how they throw it in your face.
00:29:14.000And you know, the latest one is about bio-weapons and people wanting to live forever and kidnapping people to take their plans.
00:29:25.000While they're growing these cloned babies to get their brain tissue and want the aborted babies.
00:29:31.000The point is, is that truth is stranger than fiction and these psychopaths are handing out these weapons You know, like they're pop guns or something, and they know this global crisis will bring in the New World Order.
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00:33:20.000You know, I've been talking the last half hour about race-specific bioweapons, weaponized bioweapons, you name it.
00:33:32.000And just recapping before I go to the next... Before I go to the next level of this, is the recap for those that just joined us.
00:33:47.000The globalists say we've got to have world government because they can't have any rogue nations or rogue industries or companies because now the technology is readily available in the human genome published which is a real good idea I guess by the federal government in concert with the eugenics promoting IBMers that control half of it.
00:34:08.000We've got to have this world government to contain this Well, here's the problem.
00:34:12.000The globalists are psychopaths who openly say they want to get rid of 80-95% of us.
00:34:17.000And on top of it, they're building all these giant underground bunkers to protect themselves and the elite.
00:34:22.000Foreign countries give the public access to the bunkers.
00:34:42.000If you have a race-specific bioweapon or you have a general bioweapon release and it starts killing hundreds of thousands, millions of people, it will cause nationwide panic, total breakdown of society.
00:34:53.000We're not the people of 50, 60, 70, 80 years ago that know how to skin a buck and run a trot line, that know how to farm and garden.
00:35:01.000And things will rapidly implode in on themselves and will break down into bedlam.
00:35:07.000Now, you can be assured that whatever bioweapon the globalists release, they're going to have a Ironclad cure for it for themselves and their forces.
00:35:15.000But you're saying the globalists would never get away with that.
00:35:18.000Their own people would blow the whistle on them.
00:35:20.000Well, that's why now 50-plus top microbiologists, either in the treatment of bioweapons or the development of it, who can tell you who produced a bioweapon, have been dying very mysteriously, being murdered, being tortured, being butchered, being run over and backed back over publicly.
00:35:37.000Dying in airlocks, dying in plane crashes, Being drowned in an inch of water when their car flips, and witnesses seeing men in dark uniforms standing around them, and Dr. David Kelly with men in dark uniforms standing around him, and mainstream news now that he was murdered, who was the head of Porton Down Bioweapons Lab.
00:35:56.000And let's just say the government's angels, they're still producing, they've got all these bioweapons labs, level 4 and even level 5's, even some above that level, And we've had cases where this stuff has gotten out in Russia, gotten out in China, on purpose in England they released the weaponized foot-and-mouth, just a blurb in Sky Television News and a few newspapers like the London Guardian and Telegraph of four years ago.
00:36:21.000That was used to kill off most of the cows and sheep.
00:36:24.000Then I predicted the government wouldn't let people restock their cows and sheep, which they did do, and then forced the farmers to sell so big agribusiness could take over.
00:36:33.000So they could release this on accident, or someone could steal it and release it, but guaranteed that's not going to happen.
00:36:38.000Or they may claim it happened on accident.
00:36:40.000And now under Bush's BioShield program, they're going to build, and are building, three dozen of these to quote, study and treat it.
00:36:48.000But they admit these are really bioweapons production labs to create thousands of gallons, as the Baltimore Sun said, of liquid death.
00:36:59.000And then we've got Dick Cheney and the PNAC document saying we need to legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons.
00:37:06.000And the PNAC document, Rebuilding America's Defense, is September 2000.
00:37:10.000We have globalists who we've caught putting cancer viruses, not just in SV40, but in other vaccines, 250 times.
00:37:20.000They took the mercury out of some vaccines, put it in the mandatory ones they really push.
00:37:25.000They went up to a higher level, 250 times safe levels, and that's now posted on PrisonPlanet.com in the bioweapon vaccine section.
00:37:34.000And we have a global government that's been caught in Africa, Latin America, Asia, from the fifties into the nineties, putting sterilization hormones into the vaccines for the women.
00:37:46.000I mean, this is all posted on the website right now.
00:37:49.000Henry Kissinger in seventy-three, telling five most populous third world countries, sterilize half your population by force, or no IMF and World Bank money that was declassified in ninety-two.
00:38:00.000That's on the website, the actual CIA documents.
00:38:03.000So we have these nutcases saying, give up our liberty, we're going to protect you from this, while they set up the entire system, the whole technological control grid, to basically hurt us and control us during these purposeful releases.
00:38:19.000And you're saying, well, people in government won't go along with this.
00:38:24.000That's what total information awareness is about.
00:38:29.000And believe me, those NSA computers aren't set for talk of bombs and, you know, Alibaba.
00:38:37.000They're not set for discussions of cocaine and heroin.
00:38:40.000They're set for discussions of people finding out and talking about race-specific bio-weapons.
00:38:46.000They're set for FBI agents talking to their wife about how the government had prior knowledge of 9-11 so they can send some nice boys out so that FBI agent has a car wreck tomorrow.
00:39:03.000And they've just got a few hundred top people listening and tracking all of that, and then another mass, often just tertiary intelligence operations.
00:39:12.000Because there's no real terrorism, my friends.
00:39:35.000So see, they're now going to come out, the new site is reported, with automatic control gates and robotic cones that block highways automatically and the face scanning cameras on your street corners and the roads.
00:39:48.000All of this can be controlled by computer programs.
00:39:50.000You can set the program up for what you want to do and turn the computer loose and literally just a few people can control hundreds of drones taking off with the bio-weapons, spraying the cities, doing whatever they want.
00:40:08.000Total Information Awareness is about protecting the globalists while they commit their crimes of bid rigging and scamming and sucking Pentagon funds dry of over a trillion dollars.
00:40:21.000It's meant for economic espionage and spying on their competition, and it's meant on protecting them and building up a grid where just a few hundred people can wage war against the entire planet.
00:40:34.000And then the little compartmentalized technicians loading the spray canisters on the drones will just think it's one of the thousands of public tests they've had of quote, bioweapon preparedness.
00:40:47.000And then once it's done, once the crisis has started, the globalists just have to retreat to their bunkers and watch the havoc unfold!
00:40:54.000Now people, this isn't a science fiction movie, and this isn't a joke, and I've given you in the last 40 minutes exactly the plan, unless we stop these people!
00:41:07.000Dan in Louisiana, go ahead, thanks for holding.
00:41:13.000I got the hair on the back of my neck standing up just forcing myself to face the evidence.
00:41:17.000Well, and I think another part of their plan is once they pull the financial plug to watch us kill each other.
00:41:23.000Well, I don't think they're going to do the big bio-release now.
00:41:26.000They may have a release of a weaker mainline bio-weapon that kills a few hundred thousand and sickens a million.
00:41:33.000Then they clamp down even stronger with the police state grid.
00:41:35.000The mass extermination is about a decade away if we don't stop them.
00:41:40.000And there'll be lots of other, maybe a nuking of a city.
00:41:42.000All of this to get us firmly under their control.
00:41:44.000But once they've got the control, once we're all surveilled in our cars and our homes, which they're saying they're going to do, Once all this is in place, once they've got their drone aircraft armies, once they've got that, then they're going to go ahead.
00:41:58.000Right, and that will be sort of one of the last steps they do, I think.
00:42:01.000But I sort of have a question that's a little off topic.
00:42:05.000This idea that's been coming up, and it was kind of mentioned on your show yesterday, I found it really interesting, this idea that there's some sort of gism in the New World Order between maybe the European moneyed side and the sort of American CIA Bush muffle side.
00:42:20.000What, what, what, I was, I read something last night that even, uh, kind of right, right, right, right into that, and this is, this George Soros guy, are you aware of him?
00:42:29.000He's the Democrats' new sugar daddy, to the tune of like 12 million.
00:42:33.000And, uh, many people on the internet have done really good work and have tied him directly back to, guess what, the house of Rothschild, of course.
00:42:39.000Well, no, I mean, we've done that work, but then you notice Arnold at, at Lord Rothschild's house in, in, in the Scotsman and Reuters two years ago, With Warren Buffett.
00:42:48.000We have those photos and news articles there.
00:42:50.000And then you've got the Bushes behind him.
00:42:53.000So at the highest levels, there really isn't a debate going on.
00:42:57.000They like to publicly make you think that there's a choice and a debate and a fight going on.
00:43:02.000And occasionally the minions will jockey for position with each other, for poll position.
00:43:08.000So this is just like two people at the company trying to become CEO kind of thing?
00:43:14.000The presidential election is two different high-level managers fighting and bidding for the CEO job of this barony, or this fiefdom, this viceroy position over the North American grid.
00:43:29.000What about this idea that Iraq was sort of this American Wall Street impulsive operation, and the Europeans are scared to death that it's waking everybody up?
00:45:00.000But they still agree upon the prostitution... Well, what about this idea that they're going to... The bed-rigging, the drug-dealing, the... Go ahead.
00:45:07.000What about this idea that they're going to tell Georgie that he needs to step down because things have gotten too hot?
00:45:13.000Well, I mean, everybody's saying that there might be a military coup, and that Bush is in trouble, and these people are stepping down because of this, and, you know, we were really the first to talk about that because of our... This has all come out of MI6, which I'm very skeptical of.
00:45:28.000And now everybody's picked up on it, and I really don't put a lot of stock in that.
00:45:33.000Now, I said, again, years ago, they could burn Bush politically, blame conservatism as if Bush represented conservatism, energize a new super left-wing movement, put Terry in, the real policies will continue.
00:48:02.000And plus, I get a free satellite tracker in here that directs me on different street corners and maps and where I'm going.
00:48:08.000And, oh boy, there's an infrared node on it, hooked into a cell phone in the dash, that if my car gets too hot and I'm in it, it'll automatically call the police.
00:48:17.000Oh, by the way, that infrared camera's watching you.
00:48:34.000And so, yes sir, and hundreds of people, at least the hundreds of articles I've seen, I'm sure it's more than that, you're out doing 75 in a 60, a deer jumps out in front of you, this is a Texas case, just a few months ago, your car flips, uh... and uh... your husband died because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt and then you're not your husband isn't just dead you weren't just speeding you didn't just make a mistake life just as dangerous now you're gonna be charged with manslaughter and now you're gonna be convicted you're gonna spend ten years in the penitentiary because you were going fifteen miles over the speed limit and tried to dodge the deer and you flipped the car and killed your husband and then you lied about it to the police and said you were going sixty but no they got the little computer box you were doing seventy-five
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00:54:59.000And you can deny the things I've laid out, what I've said here.
00:55:02.000I don't get up here and just say things, you know, because I like to talk.
00:55:07.000I got up here on the air, I said they're going to use Bin Laden as the Patsy to attack the World Trade Center, call the White House, tell them don't do it, July 25th, and then every day after that, leading right up to 9-11.
00:55:22.000I'm able to look at the big picture, especially if I watch television and see their propaganda, which I don't do as much anymore because I should make myself watch it.
00:55:30.000And I'm able to see the propaganda, what they're preparing you for, what they're doing, and then I look at the actual infrastructure they're setting up.
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00:56:35.0009-11 is just the fears so they can put the handcuffs on you, the police state in place, and then put you into the vehicle and take you away, my friends.
00:56:45.000The more liberties we give up, the worse things get!
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01:00:25.000Global forces have seized control of most dominant media, universities, banking, government.
01:00:30.000They are systematically preparing massive terror attacks.
01:00:32.000They've carried out terror attacks in the past to scare us into smaller and smaller rings, greater and greater control over our lives.
01:00:40.000We have a government that openly gives deadly vaccines to our troops and makes them live in barracks that were bombed with a plethora of uranium.
01:00:48.000Top medical institutions have tested their blood, two rims of radiation, enough to kill you, not to mention the heavy metal content.
01:00:55.000And you think the globalists wouldn't carry out a September 11th?
01:01:59.000Well, this is the mass warping of the mind, but look, they promoted torture for two and a half years, then they bring out the photos themselves, then they legitimize them, then it comes out the Pentagon ordered all of it, and then they use double think saying we never ordered it, then they say it's good in the same breath.
01:02:14.000So I guess Joseph Mingolo wasn't a bad guy.
01:02:29.000I'm in the process of drafting letters to all my state delegation and the White House saying if there are any other terror attacks, and these will be certified letters, typed and basically formally presented saying that if there is another terror attack in this country, I am holding you and your globalist minions responsible for it.
01:02:52.000The average guy on the street may hear what we're talking about and just not believe it in any way, despite its truthfulness.
01:02:59.000But if I say to the guys that I work with, here are these people that have gotten, since September 11th, they've gotten all this money, all this power, the Department of Homeland Security, the whole apparatus for, quote, fighting terror, unquote, yet they're telling us they're going to be more attacked.
01:03:17.000So what they're basically telling us, Alex, in essence, is they can't get the job done.
01:03:27.000The bigger the war on drugs gets, the more drugs are on the streets, the more people in prison.
01:03:31.000They bring the drugs in, and then even on the private prisons, when you're dumb enough to use them, where you're going to live and work for them.
01:03:53.000How come they have all this extra apparatus and for some reason they're just not getting it done?
01:03:57.000Well, yeah, I mean look at the motive.
01:03:59.000Let's say they're not behind the terror attacks, but they certainly like to let it happen because they get more power and control and bonuses.
01:04:13.000I know you're busier than a one-armed paper hanger, but would it be possible, in light of your earlier mentioning of a television section, Would it be possible for, say, on Prison Planet TV to have, like, uh, television for the New World Order and have clips?
01:04:28.000And also, is there a possibility... You exposed Ann Coulter.
01:04:31.000You've shown a 3,000-watt light on her neocon fakism.
01:04:35.000Would it be possible to have more neocons on your programs?
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01:09:08.000I should have him on sometime about that subject, but he's also an author of World Affairs Brief and some books about the New World Order, and of course he's the nephew of Cleon Skousen, and we're honored to have him on the broadcast today after I babbled through his bio.
01:09:27.000We've had him on the broadcast before, and I agree with about 98% of what he has to say, and it's always good to have his view here on the show.
01:09:36.000Mr. Skousen, good to have you with us.
01:09:41.000Before we go any further, I went off into a diatribe in the last hour.
01:09:45.000About how even James Weapon's Dictionary, Encyclopedia, we've got a guest coming on next hour from the Sunshine Project, exposing the bioweapons our own government's making, race-specific stuff, and how it really is the globalist's plan, once they've got us all locked down in compact cities in years to come, to start releasing these weapons for world population reduction.
01:10:18.000I've frankly not been able to come up with any verifiable confirmation.
01:10:23.000I do know that they do intend to pull off a major world war where the U.S.
01:10:28.000will be the primary target, England the secondary target.
01:10:31.000I know there will be a lot of destruction after that war, but I am not privy, I'm afraid to say, to any specific plans to simply kill off people by You know dumping chemical or biological weapons on urban cities.
01:10:46.000Well let me, since you said you're not informed of or greatly informed on that issue.
01:10:54.000statements about we've got to reduce world population by 80 percent, the Ted Turners, the Prince Phillips in their own publications saying it, and then I'm sure you know about James Weapons putting out an alert last year about the development of race-specific bioweapons, and then in a PNAC document written in September of 2000 by Dick Cheney, he calls for, quote, legitimizing the use ...of these weapons, and the one in Guardian did a scathing report on his statements.
01:11:24.000Then we have all these microbiologists in key areas of weapons development and treatment dying, being murdered, being run over, being stabbed to death, being shot, all of that happening.
01:11:37.000And then we have the globalist MO that, well, we've got to have a world government to stop the proliferation of all of this, but then in reality, they're actually proliferating it, Joel.
01:11:46.000Well, I am familiar with all of the statements that you read.
01:11:49.000I'm just stating that I'm not familiar with and have not seen any credible documentation of specific weapons, when and where, or actual creation.
01:11:59.000You know, so much of that is commentary.
01:12:06.000I believe the globalists are up to no good.
01:12:09.000It's just that I don't go public unless I can actually get some verifiable data on, yeah, they have this weapon and it's stored here and they're planning on using it there, and I don't have that yet.
01:12:19.000Yeah, well you know Bush has got the 5.8 billion funding for the BioShield program, three dozen level four bio-weapons labs?
01:12:27.000Yes, and certainly there's a lot of black weapons projects going on.
01:12:32.000As I've been building for tomorrow's, or today's World Affairs Brief, I've got an article about Some of these so-called meteor sightings in the Seattle area, and now one in New Zealand, and they appear to be bogus.
01:12:49.000It appears to be a black-budget weapons testing of laser-oriented firepower for shooting down incoming ballistic missiles that they're testing on small meteors that are coming in, and the resulting test is producing huge bursts of light and large explosions Which simply do not hardly ever occur.
01:13:10.000Well, back in the 80s and through the 90s they did public tests of particle beams blowing up missiles.
01:13:17.000Yes, but these are, you know, for some reason they're using the meteor story as a cover for these.
01:13:40.000I mean, the tests were public in the 80s and the 90s and even did one last year where they've got, they've got former, you know, large passenger style jets loaded with huge chemical lasers.
01:13:54.000Well, there are already two prototypes flying around, so... But they are apparently different than the original ones that were tested.
01:14:01.000These are a whole different kind of laser.
01:14:03.000It doesn't put out a steady stream of a beam that's visible.
01:14:06.000It just puts out a massive stroke of light and a huge explosion follows.
01:14:11.000I think part of it could be a sonic boom of the energy charge going out, but they're trying hard to cover up that these are tests.
01:14:17.000They're certainly not admitting to them.
01:14:19.000Well, I'm not going to try to argue with you, Joel, and I certainly, you know, Meteors don't normally explode and make a huge sound, and you don't normally see it happening in different parts of the globe.
01:14:31.000It'll explode, but not as loud as people describe.
01:14:36.000But you say you're pretty sure this is going on.
01:14:39.000I'd say there's more evidence to the race-specific bioweapons with Dick Cheney talking about them and James putting out a worldwide alert last year compared to, we think this is a laser.
01:14:49.000How do you extrapolate out to say that you think that's going on?
01:14:56.000There's just a lot more evidence, physical evidence, of people who have worked with the lasers and seen them.
01:15:36.000That doesn't talk about race-specific... The London Guardian did a report on it last year that I read about ten times on air, and actually put a link to it.
01:15:44.000It may be another one of those sub-chapters.
01:15:52.000I'm not disputing what you say, but I'd just like to see Well, I don't want to digress off into the whole discussion of it, but I mean, certainly you know that it was Sky Television News and the London Guardian and London Telegraph reported four years ago that it was the government that released the foot-and-mouth quote, by accident.
01:16:09.000So my point is, if they're developing this stuff in these labs, quote, how is it accidentally getting released?
01:16:15.000Yes, there's an awful lot of that going on.
01:16:18.000Most of these releases are, I mean, all of them that I know of are purposeful.
01:16:24.000We have everything from the AIDS epidemic and vaccine experimentation and releases of toxic and abortifacients and everything else coming in vaccines.
01:16:36.000Well there are thousands of admissions of high altitude, low altitude, chemical, biological, radiological releases.
01:16:42.000Project Shad with troops all over the globe.
01:16:47.000Yes, and of course we have the chemtrails scandal, which the U.S.
01:17:03.000But even with chemtrails, you know, there still are four or five different possibilities to explain what they're doing, and none of them are definitive or provable yet.
01:17:12.000We just know that at 5,000 feet in the summer, trails don't stand there for five hours.
01:17:18.000Well, actually they can under certain meteorological conditions, and I'm pretty much an expert being a pilot on chemtrails and other things.
01:17:25.000That's right, you were a fighter pilot in... But I'll tell you this, the one thing that we really need is to be able to fly an aircraft up in the trail of one of those chemtrailers and take samples, and I'll tell you, you ask the FAA for permission and they will not let you approach them.
01:18:32.000I know that certain FAA control centers have complained to the military that they can't see through this cloud of debris they're putting up there to handle radar traffic.
01:18:45.000But expanding on that, because this is so important, The NASA Goddard Space Center six months ago said, yes, the Earth is 20% darker, and then we look at the satellite photos, and it's covering all the big countries.
01:19:04.000I mean, the areas where they were doing a lot of chemtrailing, a lot of that has disappeared, and some have increased in other areas.
01:19:14.000I'm not convinced that this is a definitive program yet, but there's been a lot of different chemicals, there's been a lot of different colors to these chemtrails, modifying different kinds of aircraft for it.
01:19:27.000It's hard to tell still with definitive reasoning, Alex.
01:19:31.000Alright, well we've digressed quite a bit, but this has already been very interesting.
01:19:35.000Joel, I want to get into the upcoming terror attacks, your analysis of that.
01:19:40.000We've got about 40 minutes left with you, and then later in this hour we'll take calls.
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01:24:07.000Joel, the reason I got you on, so let's dive into it, is upcoming terror attacks before
01:24:11.000election after you know this talk of military coups I don't put a lot of stock in it, just because I think they've got their system rolling along and have got a command and control hierarchy that's pretty stiff.
01:24:50.000But, you know, a person who claims to be chatting with the Joint Chiefs and also Present during a medal ceremony in the South Dakota Air National Guard for people who shot down Flight 93.
01:25:00.000Listen, that stuff is top secret information.
01:25:03.000They don't give public medals to those people.
01:25:05.000And a person just who's retired doesn't have the run of those things.
01:25:10.000Well, I don't want to discount what he's saying.
01:25:12.000I know there's been discussions and things going on, and a lot of what he's said in the past has turned out to be true.
01:25:16.000I mean, generally, he's not the only one saying this.
01:25:18.000This is coming at us from a hundred different quarters.
01:25:21.000Yeah, but listen, the military, they are expert at taking everyone out and demoting them and getting them out of the service who isn't an abject yes-man to this administration.
01:25:33.000Even in my day when I was in the military, you couldn't get any stars on your shoulder if you bucked the system in any way whatsoever.
01:25:40.000So I'm just not believing that our military people are going to defend this nation by taking down a conspiratorial globalist government.
01:26:05.000has got such a bad reputation for crying wolf now with the American people that everyone goes ho-hum when they talk about a terrorist warning.
01:26:11.000But there was something different about this terrorist attack where Ashcroft and Mueller got on national television and said, we've got a big one coming.
01:26:18.000Now, we don't have anything specific as to who, when, where, by what methods, or how, but, you know, that's always very suspicious.
01:26:25.000But nevertheless, I'm getting indications from subscribers who have relatives or themselves work for major corporations in
01:26:54.000News and World Report, the White House did, that there will be an attack, the government may be, you know, severed the legislative, you know, that's what's chilling about this.
01:27:05.000Well, you know, what's also chilling is a little bit of game-playing going on.
01:27:08.000The White House and Homeland Security came out and said that we were not advised about this news conference when Ashcroft and Mueller came out announcing this terrorist attack coming in June.
01:27:21.000This sounds to me like one hand of the government is saying, yeah, we warned you, and the other hand is saying, we didn't have any specific warnings, so we aren't guilty when it comes to pass.
01:27:29.000I mean, frankly, You know, from the evidence we have of 9-11 in Oklahoma City that you've put out, and I've researched, indicating a very strong government hand, not only allowing it to occur through third parties, but through supplying the explosives, the training, the cover stories, all of the things that went into this very sophisticated operation of 9-11, I frankly don't believe that these high-profile terrorist attacks, with
01:27:58.000In the exclusion of any normal terrorism, this is a very interesting conundrum, Alex.
01:28:04.000You know, you can't have it both ways.
01:28:06.000The government cannot claim that Al-Qaeda is this worldwide, powerful, tremendously well-funded organization, and yet doesn't have the power to penetrate our open borders and do any normal, small terrorist attack, like car bombs.
01:28:19.000Or suicide attacks, or electrical pylon destructions.
01:28:23.000I mean, you have hundreds of thousands of these out on the rural countryside with no protection whatsoever.
01:28:28.000How hard is that to blow one of those up and create a... No, it's only big theatrical events.
01:28:34.000And this is a key to my claim that this is controlled terrorism.
01:28:38.000This is, you know, working through third parties and giving them the go-ahead.
01:28:42.000I mean, frankly, it's just unbelievable when you compare Israel with a hundred times more security than we have.
01:28:49.000Having nearly daily or weekly terrorist attacks.
01:28:52.000And we claim we've got them on the run and they can't touch us?
01:28:55.000With all of our, you know... Well, we know Al-Qaeda is a CIA fiction, a creation.
01:29:00.000You know, using Al-Qaeda to get the Serbs to fight in the late 90's.
01:29:15.000I'm not buying the fact that the government has no knowledge.
01:29:18.000In fact, we're getting lots of little symbols that people are getting warned and not to travel on certain time dates and things like that, just like before 9-11.
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01:34:30.000has the manpower to invoke martial law.
01:34:33.000They can't hardly handle the manpower requirements of Iraq right now.
01:34:36.000It really does take a lot of manpower to do a full martial law scenario.
01:34:40.000What they end up trying to do is get us accustomed to these things through piecemeal intervention and small doses of martial law, such as what happened during the sniper attack, 9-11 shutting down the aircraft system, Shutting down the freeways around the snipers in Washington, D.C.
01:34:58.000You know, most of that stuff is unnecessary and really damages the economy.
01:35:02.000Even during 9-11, you know, all they would have had to do was land all the aircraft, rescreen the passengers, put it back on the jets and keep things flying.
01:35:12.000They nearly destroyed the airlines by shutting it down.
01:35:15.000In fact, I've said in my various interviews on preparing for terrorism that the greatest danger to your safety and welfare is from the government reactions to a small area terrorist attack.
01:35:27.000Honest terrorists are only capable of doing attacks that affect a very small area.
01:35:32.000And by honest you mean real that isn't state-sponsored.
01:36:28.000People get used to being scrutinized in a very indiscriminate method.
01:36:34.000So, I'm really worried about the nature of people to get accustomed.
01:36:38.000Now, they have a rule, by the way, and that is they will not inconvenience the majority of people for a long period of time.
01:36:44.000They know that is deadly with Americans, because Americans have a very short fuse, in terms of impatience, with being inconvenienced.
01:36:53.000And so... So they're telling us that national ID cards, RFID chips on our license plates, that, in fact, I've seen them pitching the national ID card as convenience, convenience, convenience.
01:37:06.000Yes, and the big pitch, of course, will be security.
01:37:09.000That's why this rash of identity theft is a little bit suspect, just like the rash of viruses.
01:37:14.000It wouldn't doubt it, you know, if the government itself puts out a lot of those in order to keep an excuse to be able to be intruding in people's emails.
01:37:22.000They'd really like to scare people with identity theft so that they can get people to be crying out for some kind of foolproof identity.
01:37:30.000And now, of course, they're requiring these biometric requirements and passports from other countries.
01:37:35.000They're locking us down slowly but surely.
01:37:37.000But remember that Americans will resist a new world order, and the globalists know this, when you start hauling farmers from the Midwest for a wetland violation before the Hague.
01:37:50.000in a court having to hire international attorneys, they'll say, get us out of these international organizations.
01:37:55.000That is why I think ultimately they know they have to have a world war
01:37:59.000that targets the United States to get Americans to stop thinking about their own constitution, their own security,
01:38:07.000Well, that's what PNAC says, is that Iraq is only the launch point to antagonize the Arabs under the P2OG office to get them to actually fight back.
01:38:17.000Then it expands, then we're under attack, oh now we've got to have a huge national draft.
01:38:24.000Well, before I do that, let me interject here about PNAC.
01:38:29.000It's a little bit of disinformation however.
01:38:32.000It makes it out as if the purpose of PNAC is to have the purpose of all of this global intervention Is to pursue democracy, and to make the U.S.
01:38:40.000a leader, even if it's dominant, even through using force, to purify the world of these tyrants.
01:38:48.000Well, of course they've got propaganda, but then right there in it, they tell us it's a dominant threat, it's about the oil, we want to invade 63 countries, I mean, it's all there.
01:38:56.000Yeah, but what I'm saying, the whole purpose of that is basically to project enough antagonism to engender a reaction.
01:39:13.000You see, that's... Well, Joel, what I just stated was, I said, PNAC says this, and then I said, the Pentagon office of P2OG, with $7 million in funding, with Rumsfeld, says we're going to go out and get the Arabs to attack us.
01:40:34.000In fact, I have friends who are good friends with John Poindexter and, you know, they send him very naively information saying that TIPS and, you know, the Total Awareness System is still uh... info can he denied that i've got the mail you know
01:40:50.000showing his denial so it you know that
01:42:20.000They're using the ready reserve, which is actually not ready.
01:42:27.000The inactive reserve, they're starting to activate that.
01:42:29.000That's a legal thing they can't use without going to the draft.
01:42:31.000They're extending People's deployments are making a lot of people mad.
01:42:36.000Obviously, though, they're starting a debate nationally about the drafts, so when the next big attack comes, oh, see, we do have to have it.
01:43:17.000But what I'm saying is, with that high of a number, still a lot of them are too smart to say, hey, I don't want to get my name on this, or if a push comes to shove, you know, I'll want to be able to withdraw.
01:43:28.000I mean, there still isn't the drumbeat yet.
01:43:30.000They're, I think, working the soft sell by having selective drafts.
01:43:34.000Medical people are being drafted right now, and other things, special technical skills.
01:43:39.000But a general draft, especially one that involves women, that's still too much for the American people to swallow.
01:43:45.000But I agree with you, they're prepping us for it.
01:43:48.000But, you know, a big terrorist attack If they pull one off that's even much bigger and more widespread than 9-11, this could justify a draft.
01:43:58.000Now, one of the things I'm looking at relative to having 10 U.S.
01:44:02.000aircraft carrier strike groups out at this time, it appears to me that they may well have a nation designated, in my tough suspicion of Syria, as the one to blame for this upcoming terrorist attack.
01:44:17.000And it looks to me like they may when I published in my World Affairs Brief today the location of all the carrier groups You've got three going to the Far East, but you've got all the rest circulating around in the Atlantic Ocean, heading for the Middle East.
01:44:34.000Yeah, the three are going to make sure North Korea doesn't try anything, because they're rotating troops out of South Korea into the Middle East.
01:44:40.000And at the same time, they said they want to go into Syria next.
01:44:43.000That's what I was told a year ago by one of my Special Forces officers' cousins.
01:44:48.000And at the same time, right before 9-11, they had 44,000 U.S.
01:44:53.000troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, 18,000 British troops, and now, covertly, they're rotating even more troops.
01:44:59.000They even said late yesterday, they're going to build up the troops in Iraq now.
01:45:03.000Yes, they went to, going to 145,000, something like that?
01:45:57.000And you say, hey, where did the Chinese get in on this?
01:46:01.000But obviously we have a lot of dealings that the U.S.
01:46:04.000isn't telling the American public about.
01:46:07.000Relative to these carrier deployments, the U.S.
01:46:11.000government says, of course, this is just part of a regular training schedule exercise called Summer Pulse 04, but look, right on the website of the USS George Washington, which is steaming towards the Gulf right now to rotate into that area, they had to cancel their, what they call, Tiger Cruises, where they let children of sailors come on board and take them on a tour around the harbor, etc.
01:46:32.000They wouldn't have scheduled a tiger cruise with the children of the sailors and disappointed them by pulling out of port within a week's notice had this thing been scheduled since July.
01:46:52.000The entire Eastern Navy of Russia is out to sea right now, and that's one of the reasons why we've got, I think, three carrier task force heading that direction.
01:47:36.000Um, I think, uh, it was either yesterday or the day before.
01:47:40.000Hey, uh, uh, uh, email it to the webmaster at PrisonPlanet.com.
01:47:45.000Okay, I'll see... I may have missed it in between all the spam, but go ahead and get to your question, Danny.
01:47:50.000Um, well, what I wanted to let you know, in your show, you had talked about how the Marines that Well, yeah, what they do is they rotate them overseas, give them the dangerous vaccines, and then those, the 24% on average that say yes, they stay here domestically.
01:48:08.000Right, and what's happened to me, I kept going to the VA for my back and my hips just been killing me the last year, and the VA kept saying, oh, you're born that way, there's nothing wrong with you.
01:48:20.000So, finally, under the Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act, I wrote the VA and got on my medical record.
01:48:35.000Send me some info on that, Danny, and any comments to what he's saying, Joel?
01:48:41.000Well, this is one of the greatest scandals and crimes of our government, claiming to support our troops and yet forcing upon them experimental vaccines and filled with other, you know, very dangerous chemicals.
01:48:55.000There are natural remedies and solutions to cancer that are much better, so if you're going the conventional route for treatment, do consider the alternative therapies.
01:49:05.000And, Joel, I wanted to ask you also... We've got a bunch of callers here, and he's got to leave in a few minutes, Danny.
01:49:12.000Real fast, Joe, I worked anti-terrorism in the Marine Corps, and I've been studying the New World Order for the last ten years, and my understanding of what's going to happen is the U.S.
01:49:22.000is doing kind of a blood-in-the-street strategy to enrage all the Arabs to attack, and once we're fighting that war, there's going to be a North Korean, possibly, nuclear... Okay, let me get his comment on that, Joel.
01:49:33.000Well, that's one of the possible scenarios.
01:49:35.000Clearly, antagonism is the name of the game.
01:49:38.000I don't think it's going to be a piecemeal attack, though.
01:49:40.000I think that at some point, the antagonism will get bad enough toward the United States that Russia will say, we've got the justification to throw a nuclear preemptive strike at America.
01:50:39.000We'll talk to John and Richard and John and a few others.
01:50:43.000I might try to keep Joel five minutes to the next hour and then get the next docker we got coming on about bioweapons.
01:50:49.000But as we get to all these calls, stay with us.
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01:54:08.000Alright, Phil Skelton is going to say five minutes in the next hour so I can at least get the calls that are here.
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01:56:05.000Well, here, the Pentagon has already tested martial law in Knoxville, Tennessee last year, When it derailed an army train and evacuated 30,000 residents.
01:56:13.000They used smoke bombs to simulate chlorine gas but told the public it was real.
01:56:18.000So the Pentagon is ready to work with civilian police for martial law in America today.
01:56:22.000They can do it and replace the government with civil affairs officers just like Iraq and World War II in Europe.
01:56:34.000Listen, that's a far cry away from locking down every city and community in the United States and putting troops to guard and control people.
01:56:40.000You just don't have the manpower to do that.
01:56:42.000Okay, John, thanks for the call, and I just gotta say this.
01:56:45.000I don't know that Tommy Franks is Jewish, and if he is, so what?
01:56:48.000I mean, folks, this is not Health Things trying to make this some racial issue.
01:56:52.000Yeah, well, you know, Tommy Franks didn't exactly say, you know, what the caller did.
01:57:25.000I saw one video that did show a L-1011 hitting the tower.
01:57:30.000I believe it was on the day after 9-11 and it was only shown once and I never saw it again.
01:57:35.000But anyway, what is the probability they could use a phony patriot movement, a phony coup or something to smoke out the People that might be willing to rise up against the government to get them on a lift and put them away in the prison.
01:57:58.000We know from Oklahoma City that they purposely targeted domestic militias to pin the blame on this, even though it was a government operation.
01:58:08.000I've been in the military long enough to know there aren't...
01:58:11.000You know, maybe a handful of no high-ranking officers that would dare go against the government.
01:58:16.000So if they pull something, it's probably in order to smoke some people out.
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02:00:21.000Let's try to take a few final calls and we've got an expert, a doctor coming on with new information released by the Sunshine Project on race-specific bioweapons, bioweapons and the production of it in this country.
02:00:32.000Right now, let us go ahead now and talk to John in Louisiana.
02:01:00.000They also import most of the drugs within the United States.
02:01:03.000They have a war on terrorism, but they also sponsor terrorism and ship weapons to terrorists around the world.
02:01:08.000So the government really does play both sides of almost every coin.
02:01:12.000They have to project the image that they are following the Constitution and defending American interests, but generally they're working for globalist agendas and for black budget or black operations.
02:01:22.000So we shouldn't believe anything they tell us, should we?
02:01:31.000Hello, I just wanted to say that I'm currently a member of the military, and it's just amazing how everybody is so brainwashed into everything that's going on.
02:01:40.000I tried to tell them about the upcoming draft, and you know, bin Laden being found, and terror attacks and everything, and people just say that I'm crazy, and I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm in the military, but I know what's going on.
02:01:52.000Well, what do they say about depleted uranium?
02:01:53.000The guy that wrote the book, Dr. Rocky, literally, for the Pentagon, is sick from it, and says thousands have died, tens of thousands are sick, and our troops are now living in bases that were bombarded with it.
02:02:04.000I mean, do the troops think breathing heavy metals are just bad enough, and uranium is good for them?
02:02:10.000Well, they usually don't let me get that far.
02:02:11.000You know, I'm a conspiracy theorist, and everything's crazy.
02:02:14.000I mean, there's a couple people that's about to deploy from my unit soon, I mean, they're gung-ho to go to Iraq.
02:02:20.000Well, they're not going to be gung-ho once they're there, the statistics show.
02:02:24.000Joel, the numbers we're getting is that this is all-time high in bad morale.
02:02:32.000In fact, the only reason the government is saying that they're meeting their recruitment goals is that they're paying a whopping $8,000 to $10,000 to bribe people to stay in the military.
02:02:42.000Some of them are being forced to stay in the military.
02:02:44.000And frankly, they're saying, well, we're meeting our goals, but they don't tell us what those goals are as a percentage of actual people leaving the service, so it's rather screwed.
02:04:26.000There is a battle between true libertarian thought and liberty versus this controlled, mercantilist, pro-government corporation free trade, and that's not true free trade.
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02:05:25.000And after 12 weeks, measurable improvement.
02:05:27.000That was two years ago, and I've been taking MSM ever since.
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02:06:55.000But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
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02:07:53.000you Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central, back from 9 to midnight, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
02:08:03.000And I'm honored to be joined by the President of the San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility and I was reading a Sunshine Project document concerning the fact that these Level 4 bio-weapons labs, the BioShield, you know, five plus billion dollars of funding Bush got to build three dozen Level 4 bio-weapons labs.
02:08:27.000Jane's Weapons Publications have talked about this.
02:08:29.000This is a cover for weapons production.
02:08:33.000And PNAC and others talk about race-specific bio-weapons, and we know Israel, the US, England, the Russians, others have been developing this.
02:08:43.000And it's very frightening, and much more dangerous, frankly, than nuclear weapons, my friends.
02:08:50.000Because once it's out, it's out of control.
02:09:07.000I mean, regardless of what political bent somebody's a part of, our government shakes their fists at all these third world dustbins who don't even have you know, primitive 1940s bioweapons, but then
02:09:20.000there's no telling what high-tech stuff our government's got. I'd like to go over that with you.
02:09:24.000Certainly. Well, this is one of the major issues that are definitely hitting our country and
02:09:31.000the world in terms of what the United States position has been on
02:09:35.000as regarding how do we control the new technologies in particular,
02:09:40.000how do we keep these new technologies, genetic modification, and a lot of other
02:09:44.000similar types of genetic engineering techniques from being used to develop new biological
02:09:54.000Right now, according to the General American Medical Association, an article that came out at the end of the 1990s, there are about 70 different organisms that we know right now have the potential for being biological weapons.
02:10:14.000These include various bacteria, viruses, fungal organisms, and others.
02:10:21.000And for these organisms, only about 30% of them are susceptible to vaccines or other countermeasures so the main problem that the world faces is the fact that offense in terms of weapons development always has a major advantage over defense because if you're going to develop a vaccine say for any particular organism you have to know what the organism is and the vaccine can only be used in a very specific way against that
02:10:49.000And for vaccines to work in human beings, you need some lead time.
02:10:54.000So you have to give the vaccine, the body has to develop its ability to respond and deal with that organism.
02:11:00.000But if you get into the type of situation where governments or other actors are going to start using the genetic modification techniques, organisms could be developed that would be resistant to any sort of antibiotic or vaccine.
02:11:19.000And this is the extreme danger of the type of work that the United States is entertaining doing in its plans for developing a nationwide system of so-called biodefense labs.
02:11:32.000And we'll talk about, I mean, obviously in the black budget shadow programs, this is massive, it's going on, but now they're going public with it, and the Boston newspapers have talked about it, The big Washington papers have discussed it.
02:11:49.000In one article in the Baltimore Sun, they said they're going to produce thousands of gallons of liquid death, that they're building these dangerous things that are more dangerous than nuclear power plants, folks.
02:11:59.000All over our communities, three dozen of them.
02:12:02.000But let's give people a case point example.
02:12:03.000A couple years ago, through universities and the government in Australia, they took this mousepox, kills all the mice that come in contact with it, and they put out the Well, it's a good question, and it really points to the dangerous nature of such type of experiments.
02:12:19.000There's additional evidence pointing to these problems.
02:12:58.000Were you aware that four years ago, it was in Scott Television, London Telegraph as well, that, oh, by the way, we think we accidentally released or somebody stole weaponized foot and mouth, and then that's what caused that whole crisis.
02:13:11.000So, oh, this stuff could be accidentally released?
02:13:31.000And, you know, the thing is, this is the reason why a lot of community organizations around the country For very good reason, are opposing the siting of labs in their communities.
02:13:42.000Where are some of the places they want to build these three dozen?
02:13:45.000Well, first off, you know, just for your listeners, if they want to get the best information of where the plans are, the Sunshine Project at www.sunshineproject.org.
02:13:58.000We have a link to the subsection, by the way, on InfoWars.com.
02:14:00.000That's terrific, because they've just developed, and they've been doing a series of updated maps of what the proposed uh... bio defense facilities are around the country and
02:14:10.000just came out with one uh... within the last two weeks i'd really urge the uh...
02:14:14.000listeners to log on and actually see for themselves what the various
02:14:18.000plans are but there are other plans as indicated on those maps to put
02:14:23.000these facilities all around the country and so for example
02:14:27.000uh... there are proposals to build one in conjunction with boston university
02:14:31.000They already have started it at UT down on the coast.
02:14:37.000That's correct, and despite very strenuous efforts by folks at Sunshine, the folks at UT have really, up until this point, refused to at all comply with the transparency that's really required.
02:14:56.000What are their procedures to guarantee that any organisms they work with won't escape into the community?
02:15:01.000We really need to know, as an informed citizenry, what type of work is going on in these areas.
02:15:07.000And, you know, there are areas, for example, getting back to the situation in Boston, where this is the proposed labs being proposed for, you know, the typical type of neighborhood where people are poor, people of color.
02:15:23.000And it's in the middle of a major metropolitan area.
02:15:31.000Just as we're seeing with this recent anthrax problem, lab accidents do happen.
02:15:38.000A number of years ago, myself and some colleagues who've written on this had a letter published in the New England Journal of Medicine regarding the fact that There was a researcher at Fort Detrick, the United States premier, quote-unquote, biodefense lab, who came down with a case of Glanders that he was working with.
02:15:58.000Glanders is a disease that's not contagious, but nonetheless, it wasn't diagnosed until he was out in the community.
02:16:44.000South Africans, for example, were reported During the coverage of the so-called Dr. Death, the physician who worked with South African intelligence and as well in developing biological weapons programs for use in Zimbabwe and Rhodesia, that they were working on this.
02:17:05.000But we have to remember that the human beings, despite our racial and ethnic differences, of more genetic similarities than differences.
02:17:14.000So there are major problems, theoretically, in being able to develop... But now that the genome has been published with IBM and the government... But the point is, Alex, is that there's still, even if we have a published genome, there's still, and it has been discovered from a lot of the genetic research, including the genetic mapping, That we share more genes, much more genes, for individual to individual, race to race, than we differ.
02:17:41.000Well, I agree, but my point is, doctor, they're working on these systems.
02:17:45.000We have evidence that this stuff can be released.
02:17:50.000Well, yeah, I don't disagree at all that these types of technologies should be banned.
02:17:55.000All I'm trying to indicate is that We should be careful in terms of what we're saying is out there and really developed because there are major theoretical genetic problems in terms of being able to use a weapon against one group without having it really backfire and... Well, my point is that they admit that it's been worked on and studied.
02:18:16.000Yeah, well, there's a lot of secret research that's going on.
02:18:19.000I think that we need to... the general problem that we're talking about here really is the fact that any sort of genetic modification is going on with these organisms because this presages a biological arms race.
02:18:36.000I mean, let's get into that after the break, Dr., because that's really the crux of all this and we're honored to have you.
02:18:41.000I mean, they've got goats that produce spider web for body armor, and I have the CEO on the show, and people still deny it's even going on.
02:18:51.000Well, you know, I mean, these are the things that need the sort of transparency and open look that you're providing on your show.
02:18:59.000But I mean, how did it get to the point of spider goats and the average public?
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02:23:43.000We're talking to Dr. Robert Gould, a pathologist in San Francisco and he's the head of, the
02:23:50.000president of San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility.
02:24:04.000You know, Americans shouldn't be experts on Madonna and Michael Jackson and Britney Spears or on football.
02:24:10.000Spend some time on that, but you might want to find out that all over the world they have accidents at these Level 3, Level 4 bioweapons labs, and people die and horrible stuff gets released.
02:24:19.000And now they're going to build three dozen of these plants, already set one up down in South Texas.
02:24:23.000UT, I guess their nuclear reactor in downtown Austin isn't enough for them that no one seems to know about that's been there for 38 years.
02:24:30.000You know, we have all of this happening, and people need to know about it!
02:24:34.000And, uh, so they're gonna have, uh, three dozen of these, thirty-plus of these, already some of them set up, along with the other labs, and, uh, we need to have a debate.
02:24:46.000But Big Pharma doesn't want you to be informed about it.
02:24:50.000Uh, but, I'm sure you know how to have your belly button ring properly adorning you, though.
02:24:54.000Uh, but not that our whole planet could be destroyed by this.
02:24:57.000Doctor, The stuff they've developed, the stuff we know that's out there, I mean, we're talking about killing billions of people possibly, are we not?
02:25:07.000I mean, it depends on the organism, but again, if we're going to start...
02:25:12.000Manufacturing new organisms that we don't have any natural resistance to in our species, the possibilities are really endless in that way.
02:25:22.000And this is why this research in particular needs to come under very tight international control.
02:25:30.000The other thing, I mean, since you have to mention the nuclear reactor issue, is another issue that we also have to think about as regards some of the programs.
02:25:39.000So, for example, Some of the labs that are being slated are, for example, in my own hometown in the San Francisco Bay Area, there's a BSL-3 lab being proposed for being at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Lab.
02:25:56.000So already you have a sort of facility that is already operating because it's a weapons lab under a very, you know, secret type of jurisdiction.
02:26:09.000Well, yeah, and that's why many of the local community groups in our own area of the really excellent work of Mayor Leah Kelly and Tri-Valley Cares and parallel work with Jay Coughlin and his group at the Los Alamos Labs.
02:26:25.000...have been very important in terms of challenging the siting of such labs.
02:26:28.000In fact, I've referred the listeners to an excellent article called, basically, Bugs and Bombs, which talks about this particular problem that was published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists last fall, I believe the September issue.
02:26:44.000But sir, doctor, you know, then we have a debate about where to put them, so they put them out in Montana.
02:26:49.000Bottom line, as I've read the evidence and you've talked about it, these are really also offensive dual-use labs.
02:26:56.000I mean, as the Baltimore Sun said, thousands of gallons of liquid death.
02:27:01.000And the people in Montana who have been opposing Mary Wolf and her group out there have been opposing, righteously, the plans to put it out in a rural area where, if there were an accident, is a place which is Very underserved in terms of physicians and hospitals, so the capacity for something escaping and causing havoc there is also of concern.
02:27:26.000Even though it's not a populated area.
02:27:28.000Spreading and not being recognized by an expert.
02:27:33.000You know, just last week, as came out in the press, somebody working on the lab facilities in the area uh... contracted uh... salmonella from from actual work so again illustrating i mean uh... coming out salmonella doesn't pose the public health threat that say a uh... a super virus or something else that would be developed uh... would point is but nonetheless it indicates the problems that are inherent in this type of work
02:28:06.000is hopelessly corrupt and controlled by the same military-industrial complex, but certainly we should have treaties between countries, sanctions against countries by other countries that don't.
02:28:16.000But I mean, our government doesn't even follow the treaties it signs on to, but then will attack countries that refuse to sign on to treaties.
02:28:24.000And as well, unfortunately, in terms of the strategic policies of our own country in this administration, As opposed to doing the necessary things to control the weapons at the international level, such as having a stronger biological weapons convention, instead we're going ahead with, under the policies of quote-unquote, counter-proliferation, justifying the development of a whole new generation of nuclear weapons to supposedly take out hardened command posts and hardened facilities.
02:28:58.000This threatens a whole new generation of nuclear weapons proliferation.
02:29:03.000Supposedly, in this case, to control biological and chemical weapons, but actually more than, you know, this itself poses a severe threat.
02:29:14.000We can just see from the relatively recent revelations of the ability of the Pakistani program under Dr. Khan To basically have brochures to spread nuclear technology... By the way, Bush ordered the FBI not to investigate that two years ago.
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02:33:29.000And we've had on their representatives, their experts many times, breaking major news report after major news report.
02:33:34.000I was even unaware until this morning when I saw it, that they had finally gotten the map from the feds of where they're going to put all these nasty facilities.
02:33:41.000And a lot of them are already up and running in existing facilities, like right here in Texas.
02:33:50.000And every couple months I hear about a lab person dying, getting sick, somewhere in the Western world or in Russia, in the lower level labs and in the high level labs.
02:34:00.000And we never hear about what happens deep in the bowels of what they would call, what do they call above level 4?
02:34:06.000We know there's all these giant black budget projects, and that's the majority of bioweapons activities.
02:34:12.000Doctor, I mean, speculating here, Dr. Robert Gould, San Francisco Bay, President of Physicians for Social Responsibility.
02:34:21.000I mean, from your contacts, from other pathologists, from other scientists, I mean, can you give us any inkling?
02:34:26.000We know tens of billions of dollars every decade is covertly spent in these labs, but I mean, can you tell us anything of the dark side of things?
02:34:35.000I mean, what they admit is bad enough, but can you tell us any of the other info?
02:34:39.000Well, I think we've laid out some of the projects that have been divulged over the last number of years, such as the ones at the Port and Downs, such as the mousepox that was synthesized in Australia.
02:34:53.000All that we know of is BSL-4, which is pretty high enough in terms of the dangerous work that they're entertaining doing there.
02:35:05.000So, you know, these technologies have not been with us for a long time, but already over the last number of years, the advances in biotechnology and genetic engineering, these, you know, presage significant capabilities for offensive arms, and that's what we're really facing right now.
02:35:26.000Well, I have to tell you, doctor, that I've talked to people who work for IBM and others And they'll just, scientists and others, they'll just laugh at you and go, there's no such thing as an unnatural mutation.
02:35:37.000Because they're all making money out of this.
02:35:39.000You know, that's the sort of arrogance and outright hubris that you receive from people who are not really being honest about What the nature of their work is, and from our standpoint, not really taking moral and ethical responsibility for whatever their work is, and for whatever they're getting paid for.
02:35:56.000Well, on the Kapchenko, or however you pronounce it, peninsula, I mean, they had cases where they'd release anthrax on accident and kill hundreds of people around in the town.
02:36:04.000I mean, we had Chernobyl blow up and thousands of square miles were unlivable.
02:36:12.000Well, they're not, you know, they're not thinking from a global standpoint of what the effects of their work is.
02:36:19.000I mean, you know, we have 50 years of nuclear weapons work that already has taken an incredible toll over the over 600,000 people who worked in the various atomic energy labs and Department of Energy labs.
02:36:33.000I mean, you can think more locally where you're at in terms of the exposures to Pantex workers.
02:36:38.000We have everybody from uranium miners who were exposed to Digging the uranium for nuclear weapons to those who work at places like Rocky Flats where plutonium is in the ducts.
02:36:49.000Our government has unfortunately been very cavalier with this type of weapons work since the dawn of the Cold War.
02:36:58.000We have millions of people around the world who are exposed to nuclear testing with effects that have been documented by the National Cancer Institute in terms of their effects on their thyroid including increased incidence of thyroid cancer and that's only with one of the radioactive elements, a radioactive iodine.
02:37:19.000Well frankly I'm not as scared of the radioactive stuff which I am concerned about as this bio situation.
02:37:24.000I mean it's not just America either, it's the rest of the world that's racing ahead at a geometric growth curve.
02:37:30.000Well you know that's the thing, we have to look at all of these advanced technologies and we have to fondly look at our world as You know, we can't construct in any one country the sort of defensive type of position that really is this absurd situation of a, you know, like a gated community.
02:37:51.000The fact is that, particularly when we're talking about the biological agents, they can cross boundaries, they can get in airplanes.
02:37:58.000I mean, we are one interconnected world.
02:38:01.000So to think that we could just set up a vaccination program here in the United States, even from those who would say be well-motivated to protect us against disease this is the larger point that we have to have the strongest possible international controls and the other thing is you know we're spending an inordinate amount of money and a lot of it again going to the biotech and pharmaceutical companies who undermine the treaty for these high-end projects which really don't touch the major problems that the world is facing I would submit that when we're thinking about real problems that are on our agenda such as impending global climate change that
02:38:35.000Many organizations and many panels of experts who have studied this over the course of the last decade have indicated that we're likely to face a much greater disease burden from the impact of climate change because many diseases that up until now have been confined to tropical areas are likely to spread as the climate change and we're probably seeing the first evidence of that For example, with the West Nile virus.
02:39:03.000It's been predicted by the World Health Organization that by the end of the century, even with the lower levels of anticipated climate change, that the world burden of malaria will go from somewhere it is presently at about 500 million people getting malaria To close to 600 million.
02:39:22.000They're also saying that drug immune, not just resistant, but drug immune TB is going to kill hundreds of millions.
02:39:30.000One third of the world's population is infected with tuberculosis.
02:39:34.000That doesn't mean they have the disease.
02:39:36.000But particularly when our government spends, was spending before 9-11, 10 billion dollars a year on counter-terrorism programs, that same amount of money Or a little bit more per year, as the United Nations and the World Health Organization have indicated, would be what we would need to deal with the global AIDS burden.
02:39:58.000And it's within that global AIDS population that tuberculosis festers, and particularly antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis.
02:40:08.000So for a fraction of the amount of money that we're dealing with high-end programs that themselves are extremely dangerous we can do a lot more to deal with diseases that matter and are here and threatening us right now but doctor
02:40:24.000It's owned and run by the same military-industrial complex that owns Big Pharma.
02:40:28.000Big Pharma doesn't mind if all this stuff spreads and gets bad, because then they get to treat it and make 50 times the money off of prevention and ending it.
02:40:37.000The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs we have on the streets.
02:40:39.000Well, you know, I totally understand that, and that's been the record.
02:40:42.000But, you know, I understand your concerns about the United Nations, but it does... I would just say that the only hope that we have is building strong international institutions that could actually deal with these issues as a matter of human survival.
02:40:59.000I started this broadcast two plus hours ago.
02:41:06.000Okay, saying that this is the argument of a lot of well-meaning professors and scientists and others is we've got to have this global government to stop the proliferation of these weapons of mass destruction.
02:41:18.000A rogue country is going to make a bioweapon that will kill tens of millions of people.
02:41:23.000And it's only going to be worse in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.
02:41:26.000I mean, you know, this stuff is just all over the place.
02:41:29.000But then I look at who founded the U.N., who runs it.
02:41:32.000The U.N.' 's too busy bid-rigging oil contracts.
02:41:35.000It's owned by the same just arrogant elitist that own and run this country.
02:41:41.000And so all I'm saying is, is that what are other models of countries, you know, working with other countries?
02:41:48.000And you say, through these treaties, I just don't see the U.N.
02:42:04.000And if we have problems right now with the current influences that don't allow the United Nations or other international organizations to do the job that they really need to do, then we have to think of ways to make them accountable to us and the world community.
02:42:19.000But we really can't deal with these things on just a national basis because Yeah, you know, if we're talking about infectious disease or the problem of emerging and re-emerging infectious diseases that are in place, things like tuberculosis, malaria, we need to have global solutions.
02:42:34.000So I'm not in any way, I believe, I'm not being naive about those issues, but from the standpoint of being a physician, from the standpoint of thinking about health as a global problem, We have to come up with creative solutions.
02:42:50.000And that's the job for us to put our heads together, to figure out ways to do that.
02:42:53.000Well, I think the name of the organization, Positions for Social Responsibility, being socially responsible means you're informed, and so that's what we're trying to do here, and I appreciate you coming on.
02:43:04.000You've got such arrogant people in ivory towers, whether it's the UN or Paris or London or New York, Such arrogant people in these ivory towers.
02:43:25.000And I'm not trying to be negative here, but I've talked to a lot of scientists and people, and they say that there is a greater chance of a massive, deadly viral release that will kill hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of millions, than there's a chance of us somehow coming up with a way to stop this.
02:43:40.000Well, you know, things are, you know, I can't deny, Alex, that things are pretty grim if we're looking at the situation in the world and that essentially we're pissing away $400 billion on our military budget, $125 billion supplemental for Iraq and Afghanistan.
02:43:57.000When that money could be so much better used to deal with these types of threats and finding the ways to deal with it, you know, at a fraction of that cost.
02:44:05.000Well, before 9-11, they had tens of millions for terror funding, and I remember scientists complaining, you know, you spend 2% of the anti-terror money on scientists and studies, and you spend 98% on, you know, police and black ski masks.
02:44:28.000I mean, I'm not, again, I hope that I'm not coming across in any way naive about what the blocks there are to make a difference.
02:44:36.000But nonetheless, I think we do need to be very clear that if we're talking about global public health and environmental issues that have to get solved, At a global level, we have to deal with new and creative ways of dealing with this.
02:45:05.000And I would just say that, particularly for folks in Texas, There should be plenty of heat on what's going on at the University of Texas in terms of their plans for facilities like this.
02:45:17.000Those folks should not be allowed to conduct these operations in secret.
02:45:21.000It's our right to know what goes on there, not only for the whole range of issues.
02:45:28.000People's local health in terms of similar type of accidents that we're seeing in the case of this anthrax dissemination, as well as the larger issues of We, as citizens of our country,
02:45:43.000Being basically exposed to the dangers of a biological weapons race.
02:46:17.000National Physicians for Social Responsibility, of which I was president of our national organization last year, is an organization of 30,000 health professionals, including numerous physicians as part of that, physicians and health professionals.
02:46:37.000And we have a great deal of information on our website in terms of the global challenges facing us, not only from the various weapons of mass destruction, but also in terms of many of the issues that I was addressing today in terms of threats posed by climate change.
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02:55:36.000You know, here I am talking with this top scientist, head of a major hospital, by the way, I didn't get into that.
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