Big Brother, Big Government, Big Money, Big Lies, Big Brother Control Grid. Big Brother everywhere! Alex Jones goes over the latest in the world of Big Brother and Big Government conspiracies. Conspiracy theories, fake news, and much more!
00:01:03.000In the third hour, back from Italy, from the Bilderberg Group Conference, what is 26th year covering it, Jim Tucker from American Free Press will be giving us the inside scoop on the intelligence he got inside from his moles inside the Bilderberg Group.
00:01:51.000Also, gas prices dropped for the first time this year.
00:01:55.000And months ago we found out, the Saudis even said that, oh, we've been asked to lower gas prices with the oil companies in Congress together, working together.
00:02:20.000They squeeze us for a while, and they let off some of the pressure, but notice the gas prices aren't going back down to what they were two years ago.
00:02:28.000No, they get it well above $2, then drop it down to $1.89, and you think, oh, this is just so wonderful.
00:02:34.000And then you're trained, again, to accept higher prices.
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00:09:00.000we have a presidential libertarian candidate the representational candidate i should say michael bagner
00:09:06.000is from austin texas a good friend of mine
00:09:08.000coming on the broadcast in the next hour than a third hour beg jim tucker forty six years of infiltrating the bill to
00:09:16.000burr group for the first ever even report on it back when it didn't
00:09:22.000He's got inside scoops for us yet again, fresh back from Italy, and he'll be joining us in the third hour as well.
00:09:30.000Our normal Monday guest, Paul Joseph Watson, webmaster for the Prison Planet websites, my websites, will be joining us tomorrow with his special reports.
00:09:41.000There's a bunch of secret military police news articles about how they're watching us and taking care of us, and how they're going to take our DNA, and how it's good, and how Big Brother wants to help us.
00:09:52.000I mean, every day I see Big Brother being recast as a helper.
00:10:16.000In fact, we don't even really have a pledge of allegiance.
00:10:19.000But interestingly enough, they did create it, but I wish that there would be more fervent defense of the Bill of Rights itself.
00:10:28.000I mean, it's good that people are defending the pledge, but how about we defend the Bill of Rights itself?
00:10:34.000This is out of Bloomberg News, public school teachers can continue to lead Recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance with the phrase, Under God, as the U.S.
00:10:45.000Supreme Court threw out a challenge to the practice by a California atheist.
00:10:51.000The justices, eight to zero, overturned a federal appeals decision that said a California school district violated the constitutional separation of church and state by requiring teachers to lead the pledge.
00:11:03.000Five of the eight justices in California, atheist Michael Newdow, lack the legal right to do so, the court said.
00:11:11.000Three others said the practice is constitutional.
00:11:15.000Now, and if you want to read the case, it was the case is Elk Grove Unified School District versus Newdow, 02-1624.
00:11:25.000If you want to go read it, we have a link to it on the website.
00:11:27.000But look, The same Supreme Court has held up Lord Bush and Hillary Clinton's campaign finance reform where I can't have, say, Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America on my radio show 60 days before an election.
00:11:45.000Of course, we're not going to follow that.
00:12:07.000Silence the people, silence money individuals can give, silence the different organizations that are out there, But double the amount of money corporations can give.
00:12:20.000You know, the Supreme Court just loves that.
00:12:22.000The Supreme Court's been ruling against the Second Amendment in different cases.
00:12:26.000Other federal courts have been doing it.
00:12:27.000The Supreme Court has been ruling against our borders and saying, oh, we can have open borders and, you know, trucks pouring across violating even our own laws.
00:12:39.000State laws on traffic and maintenance of the vehicles.
00:12:45.000The Supreme Court, across the board, says, hey, we don't have to pay you if we have a taking of your land, if it's taken as public domain.
00:12:57.000The Constitution says the government can do that, but they have to pay you market value.
00:13:14.000To them, it's just a way to look conservative.
00:13:17.000You notice they even have these so-called liberals on the Supreme Court, you know, unanimously going along with this.
00:13:23.000Meanwhile, they're going to go along with Bush's faith-based initiative, billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars a year to federalize churches, to turn them into government bodies.
00:13:36.000And of course the churches aren't complaining.
00:13:39.000Talk about separation of church and state.
00:13:41.000The First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
00:13:49.000That means the government isn't involved in the churches.
00:13:52.000It doesn't mean that the government regulates and runs the churches and tells you what tax forms to fill out and tells you what you can preach from the pulpit.
00:14:00.000But that's exactly what they're doing.
00:14:01.000So the government's saying, oh, that means we're to run the churches.
00:14:05.000That's separation of church and state.
00:14:07.000We're to keep their ideas out of government.
00:14:10.000No, it means government stays out of the regulation of religion, and religion does whatever it wants to.
00:14:18.000I mean, and that is so strong in the First Amendment, that's why the Hopi Indians are allowed to take, you know, peyote.
00:14:48.000But you, say, working at AT&T or Dell Computer or any of these places, can't have a cool cross at your desk.
00:14:55.000But right next to you can be the Muslim moon and star or a Wiccan cross.
00:15:02.000Folks, it's selective enforcement persecution against Christians.
00:15:09.000And the so-called Christian leaders are too busy out-promoting the Patriot Act and the police state and world government to be involved defending the Christian population in America.
00:17:06.000They said, yeah, I was at UT at a peace meeting.
00:17:11.000And there were these guys with shaved heads in suits, getting in people's faces, shoving them around, and they said they were there from the Army and we'd better watch it or we'd be arrested under the Patriot Act.
00:17:23.000And I said, OK, send me some information.
00:17:30.000Then a few days later, I remember it was four or five, six days later, I get emailed the daily text in the student newspaper and it says, well the troops came in and threatened the Dean and demanded video of the conference and said they'd been there at the meeting and that was basically what we got in the mainstream news and the Wall Street Journal picked up on it and elaborated on it and it turned out to be true!
00:19:05.000Last February, two army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School.
00:19:11.000Folks, I've been at rallies before and had these guys bump into me and threaten me and laugh at me and stick a potato in my tailpipe.
00:19:17.000I don't know if it's these guys, but the same group.
00:19:21.000It continues, last February, two army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster.
00:19:28.000They threatened the dean, people, from a conference of Islamic law held a few days earlier.
00:19:43.000By the way, that was a separate event where they went to the peace rally.
00:19:47.000The one getting the attention was the law school where they had military there talking and they didn't like the questions these guys asked.
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00:24:15.000Alright, continuing with Newsweek and how they're about to radically expand the powers of the secret military police that aren't going to be secret much longer.
00:24:24.000They're going to be talking to you and your family.
00:24:27.000They're going to be organizing the neighborhood watch teams, the new Homeland Draft.
00:24:34.000They're going to be the police bosses.
00:24:37.000Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see their roster from a conference on Islamic law held a few days earlier, where the military spoke and they were confronted.
00:24:49.000They wanted to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
00:24:54.000I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents.
00:24:59.000Oh, the school offered him up to them.
00:25:01.000The incident provoked a brief campus uproar and the Army later admitted the agents had exceeded their authority.
00:25:07.000But if the Pentagon has its way, now put your ears on folks, if the Pentagon has its way, the Army may not have to make such amends in the future.
00:25:15.000Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned.
00:25:28.000Newsweek has learned defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that could vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence.
00:25:57.000And man, I tell you, there's nothing like when you're out bullhorning the governor's mansion on a city sidewalk to have one of these guys bump into you and go, excuse me, and bug their eyes out at you.
00:26:07.000There's nothing like having them working with the police trying to provocateur rallies to try to cause a fight so the black scheme-ass police across the street can attack the gathering.
00:26:39.000Okay, now, I'm telling you, conservatively, 100,000 of these goons, and as I told you, they're gonna have, they're gonna be over all the neighborhood watches, they already are in some areas.
00:27:13.000No, it's going to be proactively in your life about your political views and what you're doing and what you're saying and I mean, this doesn't intimidate me.
00:27:27.000And they're announcing all of it now, so when their bosses carry out more terror attacks, they can say, see, it's needed, and you just follow the orders of these young men with their machine guns.
00:27:37.000They're here to help you, driving around in their vans and their Crown Vicks and their Mercedes and they drive a lot of fancy vehicles around, driving around in their Suburbans, you know, playing, playing G.I.
00:27:48.000Joe's Spy 007, harassing people that are fighting against the electronic voting machines, harassing people that are against these wars, harassing land rights activists, harassing Second Amendment rallies.
00:28:05.000And I dug back out the Associated Press article and the London Guardian article about the $70 million in fake newscasts we're now enjoying here in the country.
00:28:15.000Just one of the buys from the government.
00:28:18.000We got General Eberhardt popping off a few months ago in the LA Times about how troops on the streets and watching you were good, and Tommy Frank spouting off about setting aside the constitutional government for military government.
00:28:36.000Military in plain clothes is even worse than regular military out on the street corners.
00:28:40.000I mean, this is so East German, so Soviet, so Nazi, so Communist China, so Fidel's Cuba, so Nicaragua, it doesn't even... it is amazing.
00:28:54.000I mean, I might as well try to transport myself back to 1980s Guatemala to live in this type of wonderful police state.
00:29:01.000Just get in the time machine and go back to 1965 East Germany.
00:29:06.000I mean, this is so un-American, so blatant, and now they want to, they already have turned them loose on us, but they now want to pass the law so they don't get embarrassed and in trouble when they do this.
00:29:19.000And shame on you and the military that are doing this.
00:29:22.000You know, they get young, young guys that are on power trips and give them, you know, the credit cards and the car and all this and they run around with their spy equipment and it's just, just so much fun.
00:29:30.000But look at who your targets are, boys!
00:29:35.000You know, you're not in Russia, you're not in China, you're not parachuting into North Korea to take, you know, infrared video of the concentration camps.
00:29:43.000No, you're at the University of Texas harassing law students!
00:29:47.000You are traitors and should be arrested!
00:29:51.000We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.
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00:33:08.000because there's a war on for your mind alright my friend your calls are coming up here in just a
00:33:38.000Now, at first it was, again, on my TV show here in Austin, then the local student newspaper, then in the Wall Street Journal, now in Newsweek.
00:33:45.000Now, let me just read this one more time.
00:33:51.000Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents, and it's a lot more than that, showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster from a conference ...held the law school a few days earlier.
00:34:03.000They were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
00:34:09.000I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents.
00:34:13.000The incident provoked a brief campus uproar, and the Army later admitted that agents had exceeded their authority, but in the Pentagon had its way, the Army may not have had to make such amends in the future.
00:34:25.000Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that would vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.
00:34:42.000And these guys are actually outside the purview of the Defense Department.
00:34:46.000They've been around for decades, but now it's ballooning, exploding, has nothing to do with terrorism.
00:34:53.000And again, I have been to, I went to two of the New World Order conferences, they were actually called New World Order conferences, at the LBJ Presidential Library last year.
00:35:05.000One of my friends went to all five, Kevin Smith.
00:35:09.000And there'd be 20 people with video cameras.
00:35:12.000They'd walk over to me, threaten me, turn it off, we'll have you arrested.
00:35:44.000You know, they're just there to make sure the higher learning institutions, you know, there's no rule against videotaping unless you're against this.
00:35:49.000And then the troops are just going to tell you to shut it off and they'll arrest you.
00:36:26.000By the way, these articles are on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and I know Paul Watson's listening from England, the webmaster for PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:36:39.000Paul, we all get the Daily Texan article from a few months ago, the Wall Street Journal from a few months ago, I think we have them saved, and this Newsweek article.
00:36:46.000Let's post them all in a little section, because people can't believe this.
00:36:50.000Also, post a little section if you can.
00:36:52.000I'm giving orders here on the air, folks.
00:36:56.000I want to post a section Take the New York Times, the Associated Press, and that London Guardian article about the $70 million in fake newscasts that are airing around the country.
00:37:05.000People still can't believe that, even though we've posted it and it's been in the news.
00:37:09.000I want to just, you know, these are key issues.
00:37:11.000We've posted the cancer viruses and the mercury in the vaccine section.
00:37:52.000I've been laying this out for years in my films, but now it's just mainstream.
00:37:55.000Well, the troops are going to be organizing your neighborhood watches, and watching you, and fighting terror and crime, and manning the cameras in your cities, and just playing close troops, driving around in black vans, grabbing people.
00:38:53.000Yeah, I wish I could come on the show to talk about 9-11, because they specifically, you know, and George did let me talk about it some when I was on by myself.
00:39:01.000When I was on the roundtable, it was all about secret societies.
00:39:04.000By the way, they're going to re-air that roundtable July 1st, I'm told.
00:40:11.000And I haven't been able to see it online yet, because I've got my line tied up, obviously.
00:40:17.000What I heard was astoundingly alarming.
00:40:21.000Evidently, this ruling was a pretext to rule against parental rights.
00:40:30.000Because the quote that I heard of Gary Brownfield reading the article said that the Supreme Court ruled that this particular atheist Did not have the authority to speak for his own child on whose behalf he was
00:40:51.000While the government takes over the religions in the country, takes over the Christian Church, abolishes the Bill of Rights, and I do have the article here in front of me, it is true, that's why the liberals, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, voted for it.
00:41:34.000This is a very serious, complex issue.
00:41:37.000And frankly, I'm against pledges and oaths because the Bible says you're not supposed to do it.
00:41:42.000but at the same time it's such a balkanized issues the so-called liberals act like they're against something when it was actually uh... it was a big socialist national magazine that brought forward the pledge and got this added They bring it forward, and then under that pretext, we don't particularly have a problem with under God and all that.
00:42:00.000I mean, I believe we're under God and all that.
00:42:02.000Then they can make us do other pledges, you understand?
00:42:05.000And then kind of this East German lining up and chanting.
00:42:08.000So it's a sophisticated issue, and overall I agree with you, and of course they did something bad in this, but people won't see that, and so why even talk about it?
00:42:16.000Well, you know, in the freedom traditions of our country, the husband speaks for his wife and the parents speak for their children.
00:42:24.000So they're taking the opportunity to appear to uphold God and eradicate, you know, 200, 300 years of common law tradition.
00:42:32.000And here's an example of how that works.
00:42:34.000The neocons come out and are for school vouchers.
00:42:38.000The so-called liberals put on an act like they're against it.
00:42:41.000But then I read their own policy reports, they love it!
00:42:44.000Because that will federalize all the private schools and set up the curriculum there as well and bring control in.
00:42:52.000And then conservatives go out and promote vouchers when it's exactly what they want.
00:44:15.000What I was wanting to call about, I have actually got a whole lot of things on my mind, but I'll try to keep it brief.
00:44:21.000First of all, I am so relieved that the week of deifying Ronald Reagan on the news is over with.
00:44:29.000I tell you what, I thought I was watching a sequel to Weekend at Bernie's or something.
00:44:33.000They wouldn't put the guy on the ground, would they?
00:44:35.000They kept sitting there deifying him like he was a Soviet leader.
00:44:39.000You know how the Soviet Union When they were still in power, and they're in power now over here in the United States, they just moved from Russia to here, but I'll tell you what, they would sit there and they would be like 30 days parading the guy around over there, like Brezhnev and all them, and last week reminded me just that, that he was being deified, and our glorious leaders are now being put up on these super high pedestals that we have to start worshipping.
00:45:04.000Well, my wonderful soul surviving grandparent is no blobs ronald reagan
00:45:11.000uh... but she she's a devout christian and she said you know if you get it
00:45:15.000really was idle worship it really was leader worship it really did go too far
00:45:22.000why can notice the so-called liberal media was out there praising him and
00:45:25.000and and all he's the best ever Because it makes you love the government.
00:46:49.000The Posse Comitatus Act seems to be getting run through the shredder more and more every day.
00:46:54.000And I emailed you an article from my local paper, The New London Day, and it is a news article about what's going on in my own hometown of East Lyme.
00:47:03.000Town National Guard Ponder Partnership.
00:47:06.000The only plant currently under consideration calls for East Lyme to collaborate with the Connecticut National Guard and move its Police Department Fire Marshal's Office Emergency Management Department, Dispatch Center, into a 37,000 square foot building at Camp Roland in Nianic.
00:47:22.000And they go on and talk about the cost.
00:47:24.000They talk about how they're going to set up cameras in town to monitor and surveil.
00:47:30.000And they also... Did you send that to tips... tipsitinfourwars.com.
00:47:38.000Okay, also go to prisonplanet.com and it says contact Webmaster.
00:47:42.000Email Paul as well to make sure that gets posted.
00:47:44.000Now look, I've seen this coast-to-coast.
00:47:48.000Here in Austin, the old Berkshire Air Force Base was turned into an international airport.
00:47:54.000And about a third of the base, a little under a third, is still a military base.
00:47:58.000And they've merged the APD and a bunch of other offices in with the military, with the regular Army, National Guard, and the APD, as well as the Sheriff's Department.
00:48:08.000And nationwide, they've run the cameras out of the command base.
00:48:11.000And yes, military bases over every city.
00:48:14.000And this is total martial law being set up right in front of us.
00:49:21.000And they talk about one of the local state senators, Melody Peters, the Democrat of Old Lyon, says it's going to save the town millions, Peters says.
00:49:29.000It's going to save the federal government and the state money by forming a partnership it's just ideal because our
00:49:36.000has been the safety of the residents of this area. Now bear in mind that we're here...
00:49:40.000By the way, they've been reporting for two years they're putting in CIA offices in every major city now they're
00:49:45.000moving into the medium-sized towns and and and
00:49:47.000folks folks I just read Newsweek saying this and So in that partnership, there's the ability to be able to respond quickly to more global issues besides just the local issues.
00:52:57.000America's future depends on the truth getting out.
00:53:00.000More than 700 chemicals have been found in our drinking water.
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00:54:17.000Everything that is now happening, the secret military police, FEMA command bunkers being set up even before 9-11, now being peopled by troops, even foreign troops in some cases.
00:54:30.000All of this is in Police State 2000, made in 1999.
00:54:34.000Police State 2, The Takeover, made in 2000.
00:54:37.000Police State 3, Total Enslavement, made in 2003.
00:56:04.000When you take action, and get the videos, and then make hundreds of copies in the next six months, and then tell people that you give them to to make copies, a hundred tapes can turn into five thousand tapes.
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00:56:32.000I mean, we've been here over the years laying out the plan, not because I had a crystal ball, but because I was studying the Globalist's own public documents.
00:56:40.000Now, if you want to be a total slave, folks, And be put in a FEMA camp for any misdemeanor.
00:58:01.000You know, I was watching the news this weekend and they broke the story that what happened at Abu Ghraib was not an aberration.
00:58:09.000They actually showed the Pentagon documents from two years ago, where they changed the definition of torture, where it basically allowed just about anything except killing them.
00:58:51.000Skyrocketing oil prices, the economy on the brink, the plunging dollar, terrorism, the government spending $1.80 for every dollar it collects.
00:59:00.000Never in the history of our country have we faced so many threats to our freedoms, rights, and individual security.
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01:00:24.000Michael Bagnerik, the Libertarian Presidential Candidate, a good friend of mine from out here in Austin, Texas, is joining us.
01:00:30.000Then in the third hour, Jim Tucker from American Free Press, 26 years covering the Bilderberg Group, he just got back and has posted some new articles that we have on the website from the Bilderberg Group meeting in Italy.
01:00:45.000In the first hour, I got into this Newsweek article admitting that secret military police are going to run our neighborhood watch programs, are going to control our lives, How they're harassing people at rallies, going after people.
01:00:57.000A total, you know, Sovietization of America, Nazification.
01:01:01.000And then callers call in going, oh yeah, the National Guard's taking over our police department, merging it, you know, with the new city building.
01:02:05.000Just from forensics, then video experts have looked at it and said it's fake.
01:02:09.000So with that background, go ahead and say what you're going to say, Clayton.
01:02:12.000Well, that's basically most of what Tex was saying.
01:02:17.000That he was a low-level Mossad agent, but he was on the CIA payroll, which makes me wonder... He did have the Israeli passport, but what other evidence did Tex have that he was Mossad?
01:02:30.000Well, he was on the CIA payroll, but he was recruited by Mossad, which... I wanted to ask you the question, does this mean that our intelligence agencies are intertwined?
01:03:37.000It's a big rule on Talk Radio to turn your radios off.
01:03:42.000And we don't have time to go to calls right now.
01:03:44.000We've got a guest coming up, but we'll go to your calls when Michael Bagnerik, the Libertarian presidential candidate, joins us coming up here in the next segment.
01:03:52.000Then, of course, we'll get into Bilderberg Group in the third hour.
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01:07:54.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:08:00.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:08:06.000We're now 8 minutes and 20 seconds into this second hour.
01:08:50.000And he is truly informed of the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:08:54.000And I've got questions for Michael Bagnerik, how he would handle things, what he's going to use this powerful stump bully pulpit to get the word out.
01:09:04.000And it's great to have him on with us.
01:09:06.000Mr. Bagnerik, good to have you on, buddy.
01:09:11.000I tell you, so many people, friends of mine, are out there just having huge effects all over the globe and this is really exciting and it's been great to see you on C-SPAN and see you getting the word out about the New World Order.
01:09:27.000Well, we thank you for all the work that you have done and you have been just basically an icon here in Austin.
01:09:35.000I commend you for all the hard work that you do.
01:09:39.000I mean, thanks for those kind of words, but I mean, Michael, you've done such amazing work.
01:09:43.000A documentary you made with Chris Athanas a few years ago about the Constitution, I consider to be preeminent on that subject.
01:09:50.000I mean, you have truly studied this thing up one side and down the other and put it into function in your daily life.
01:09:57.000But before we go any further, just in a few minutes, What was the process like as you were chosen by the delegates to be the Libertarian presidential candidate, beating out some formidable competition?
01:10:10.000Well, Saturday was the debate, and I was under the impression that I had a 15-minute speech to give, and I had been preparing that.
01:10:18.000And then discovered that I had a three-minute opening and a five-minute closing, which, you know, was fairly easy.
01:10:25.000I was able to listen to Aaron and Gary Nolan give their answers most of the time, which gave me just a few minutes to prepare for my answers.
01:10:36.000Now, showing my ignorance, a week ago the station was reporting that you had won, or was that just one round?
01:11:27.000Aaron Russo, Gary Nolan, and I all came with 33% of the vote.
01:11:33.000All three candidates got Uh, roughly the same number of votes within, like, twelve votes of each other.
01:11:40.000And so, the drama, the suspense, waiting for additional votes, and at the end, when the smoke cleared, I had come ahead and beat Aaron Derouso in the third vote.
01:12:10.000In previous libertarian conventions, the membership has become, you know, divided and split because of hard feelings as to who won the candidacy.
01:12:22.000And I fully admit that I was not everyone's First choice.
01:12:26.000But I think that I was everyone's favorite second choice.
01:12:30.000And when I won the nomination, I think that 80 or 90 percent of the Libertarian membership was fully behind me.
01:12:39.000We're developing a large amount of energy and synergy as all of these previous campaigns start to working together.
01:12:46.000And we are having a huge media that people are calling to find out about the come from behind candidate.
01:12:55.000And I point out that if I can come from behind in our party nomination, that there is a possibility that I could come from behind in the election.
01:13:04.000Well, Mike, I have no doubt that if they actually let you on the stage with the two cousins, the two Skull and Bones members, that you'd wipe the floor with them.
01:13:13.000If you were given proper media attention, I have no doubt that you wouldn't be our next president.
01:13:17.000Four of the CIA voting machines didn't get in the way.
01:13:20.000But, bottom line, you'll be able to educate tens of millions of people in the process, and grow the Libertarian Party, and get more of what I would call Constitutional Libertarians, that's kind of the more conservative Libertarians, I would put you in that strata.
01:13:35.000That's my job, and I appreciate you having me on the show.
01:13:39.000What I'd like to do is point people to our website, lp.org, which is obviously for Libertarian Party.
01:14:03.000A couple months ago, secret military police out harassing people, threatening them at the law school just because they asked a general a serious question about the treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib.
01:14:16.000Even before that was breaking in the news, folks, they brought up the mistreatment and they got pretty shook up by that.
01:14:21.000I've been at meetings at the LBJ Center where we had the military in plain clothes bumping into us, harassing us, telling us we can't videotape while everybody else can.
01:14:33.000Newsweek reports that they're going to set up military garrisons in the cities, have them running neighborhood watch.
01:14:38.000The total violation of the Tenth Amendment and the Posse Comitatus Act.
01:14:42.000Number one, I'm sure you're aware of all this.
01:14:44.000How would you counter this if you were president?
01:14:47.000What we need to do is we need to scale back federal power.
01:14:50.000We need to, in most cases, give that power to the state and in several other cases give that to the county governments.
01:14:58.000We, the people, ordain and establish the Constitution.
01:15:01.000We invented Congress and therefore they work for us.
01:15:08.000As if they work, you know, as if we work for them.
01:15:11.000And so, as you said earlier, my job is to spread the libertarian message, teach people about the Constitution, so that we, the people, can take back our cherished Republic.
01:15:23.000And, I mean, the Patriot Act 1 and 2, now they've got 2.5 because they passed part of 2 last year, now they're trying to pass the rest and more.
01:15:34.000I mean, speak about the Patriot Act, your knowledge of it, and how you're going to try to educate people on that subject.
01:15:39.000Well, the Patriot Act is the most egregious named piece of legislation.
01:15:55.000The Sixth Amendment protects your right to assistance of counsel.
01:15:59.000And according to the Patriot Act, theoretically, they can label you a terrorist, throw you in jail with no indictment, no time frame, no phone call, no assistance of counsel.
01:16:09.000And the truth of the matter is that in the United States, we are innocent until proven guilty.
01:16:15.000So, in reality, you are not a terrorist until after the trial.
01:16:31.000How do we judge which laws are proper to follow and which aren't, Michael?
01:16:35.000Well, we, the people, need to become more familiar with the Constitution.
01:16:38.000The purpose of the Constitution, and the only purpose, is to protect your rights and your property.
01:16:44.000Any time that the government is doing anything to take your property, for example, coming into town and using eminent domain to take your property, they will condemn a perfectly good building and then sell it to some corporation so they can make another billion dollars.
01:17:00.000In fact, all over the country they've caught big real estate firms controlling city councils, stealing elderly people's homes.
01:17:07.000They seem to, like wolves, target weaker members of the flock.
01:17:11.000And the sad thing is that the people that we have elected to protect our rights are precisely the people who are taking advantage of those rights.
01:17:20.000You know, abusing a child is certainly considered reprehensible, but when it's a parent or a babysitter, someone who has taken the responsibility or has the responsibility to protect those children, when the person responsible for doing the protection is the same person violating The child.
01:17:40.000We just consider that more reprehensible than normal.
01:17:44.000And so our people elected to office have a fiduciary responsibility.
01:17:49.000They're obligated to protect our rights.
01:18:29.000I'm responsible for putting a roof over my head.
01:18:31.000Well, I am also responsible for saving for my own retirement.
01:18:35.000When we gave that responsibility, or where our parents and grandparents gave that responsibility to the government, you know, the social security system, nobody feels secure.
01:18:45.000And that's because we have given someone else the responsibility to care for us, the government has fallen down on the job, and now we are suffering the consequences.
01:18:54.000I want to talk about your platform and then get your take on some of the current issues that are developing and taking place, but We've seen the size of government explode under Bush, explode under Democrats.
01:19:06.000I mean, it's got to be more obvious than ever that we don't even really have a two-party system.
01:19:11.000Well, it's clear to me, and, well, we do have a two-party system.
01:19:14.000The first party are the Democrats-Republicans.
01:19:17.000The second party are the Libertarians.
01:19:19.000The Republicans and Democrats want to increase your taxes, increase the size of government, increase the number of regulations that violate your rights.
01:19:27.000Libertarians want to lower taxes or eliminate them.
01:19:30.000We want to eliminate regulations that deprive you of your liberty to decide how to live your life.
01:19:36.000We want to make the government smaller.
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01:24:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:24:08.000We got calls from Hawaii and Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, many other great places around America for Michael Bagneri, the Libertarian presidential candidate.
01:24:21.000Coming from behind, because of his eloquence, his intelligence, believe me, I've got a chance to watch him on local television about 50 times, and he's very impressive, knows his stuff.
01:24:30.000Because when you know your stuff, you know when somebody else knows what they're talking about, and sometimes his knowledge of certain subjects even plumbs the depths past mine.
01:24:39.000We can all learn from each other, and I think you'd make a great president, but bottom line, he's going to have a great chance to educate a lot of people.
01:24:47.000Now, we'll go to your calls, I promise, in the next segment, so be patient and be ready and be at your phones.
01:24:52.000But, Mr. Bagnaric, continuing, let's talk about the war in Iraq, the draft, the Second Amendment, and electronic voting machines.
01:25:14.000There were no weapons of mass destruction found.
01:25:17.000And they are really not the threat that George Bush told us that they were.
01:25:22.000And the United States is basically there throwing their weight around for no good reason.
01:25:27.000We were told that Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban were the ones who brought our World Trade Center down.
01:25:34.000And I don't know necessarily that that's true, but that's the information that we were told on television.
01:25:39.000So we should send our military after Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban.
01:25:44.000Not transferring all of that energy to another country that had little or nothing to do with that attack.
01:25:50.000But we can't go after Bush's business partners!
01:25:53.000Well, you know, one of the things that the Constitution allows us to do is to do national defense.
01:26:00.000It does not give us the authority to do international offense.
01:26:04.000And I think that it's not fair to the American taxpayer for them to be spending their hard-earned money to have our military protecting Germany, Japan, Korea... Well, they've already spent $400 billion off military budget, which is $400 billion, incidentally, a year by itself, so $800 billion in the last year and a half.
01:26:25.000It'll be over a trillion Coming up here in just another year or so.
01:26:31.000All of that just so they can have the three trillion in oil that's in Iraq.
01:26:35.000What would you do with the Iraq situation?
01:26:37.000I mean, it's clear that they've appointed a puppet government, and then our government has the nerve to call that democracy.
01:26:44.000So address that and also the difference between a democracy and a republic.
01:26:48.000Well, first of all, we are making the claim that they have sovereignty.
01:26:53.000But that's not true if the American military can ignore their sovereignty and, you know, trump any motion that they want.
01:27:01.000We in America love our freedom, we love to be free, and we don't allow anyone else to tell us how to live our lives.
01:27:08.000We need to have the same respect for the people of Iraq and let them decide how to live their lives.
01:27:13.000But it's like, let's say if you were my employee or I was your employee, and then you said, Yes, it is definitely a use of power that is not authorized by the Constitution.
01:27:20.000with you i mean they they appoint these people than their appointees backed up
01:27:24.000by a hundred forty four thousand our military then they say all we want you to stay alone in the make all
01:27:52.000And the difference is that in a democracy, you can vote on anything.
01:27:57.000You know, my friends could get together, we can vote to take away your land, which means you have no rights.
01:28:03.000In a republic, the rights of the minority, Individual rights and private property are sacred, and a unanimous vote cannot take property away from someone.
01:28:14.000And I'll go back to the issue of slavery.
01:28:17.000If 51% of the white people say, let's make black slaves again, in a democracy, ladies and gentlemen, that happens.
01:28:24.000And that's what always happens in a democracy.
01:28:27.000I can get together with the town, get 51% and say, we're going to make the other 49% of you our slaves, that will happen.
01:28:35.000And that's why Republicans and Democrats promote democracy, because then if 51% on the new CIA voting machines say there's no Second Amendment, that happens.
01:28:45.000Rosie O'Donnell and her million moms went to Washington in March with the idea that if they just got enough votes, that they could take away my Second Amendment rights.
01:28:54.000Well, if Rosie O'Donnell can vote away my Second Amendment, another group of radicals can go to Washington.
01:29:00.00051% can vote away your freedom of religion.
01:29:02.000They can vote away your freedom of speech.
01:29:04.000The Bill of Rights does not give you your rights.
01:29:08.000You have your rights because you are alive, because you are born.
01:29:12.000The First Amendment does not say you can go to any church you want.
01:29:16.000The First Amendment says, Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion.
01:29:23.000So, the Bill of Rights are further restrictions on government power.
01:29:27.000We need to remind our politicians that that is true.
01:29:30.000Okay, we'll get into the draft, the Second Amendment, and the voting machines when we get back.
01:29:34.000But first, we'll go to these loaded phone lines, 800-259-9231, lp.org, to check out Michael Bagnerich.
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01:32:57.000He rode a blazing saddle, he wore a shining star, he had his job to offer better.
01:33:13.000We've reached the halfway point in this global transmission against tyranny.
01:33:17.000I'm honored to have the presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party, Michael Bagnerik, joining us.
01:33:23.000You can check out his platform, his ideas, at lp.org.
01:33:29.000we're about to go to these loaded phone lines and we'll get in the builder
01:33:33.000burke group of big jim tucker in the next hour as well uh... going back to our guest uh... michael
01:33:43.000uh... before we were going to your calls as a second but the draft situation
01:33:48.000let's talk about that briefly because draft is indentured servitude it is slavery
01:33:53.000and now this new drafted just for the grabs of eighteen to twenty one-year-old
01:33:58.000they're talking eighteen to forty nine some of the bills eighteen to twenty six
01:34:01.000professionals You'll have to serve here domestically as part of these tattletale squads.
01:34:07.000Our government literally is setting up kind of like a puppet government, like they're doing in Iraq, with little local military bases merging with the police departments.
01:34:29.000If we have a genuine threat to the United States, I believe that many, many people will voluntarily sign up for the military to help protect our liberty.
01:34:41.000Anytime the government has to force you, To go and fight.
01:34:44.000That's a real clear indication that the general population does not support that military.
01:34:50.000But isn't the government the boss and we work for them?
01:36:30.000If we started spending a little more time being informed, we'd find out, number one, that our rights have been violated, we're being enslaved, and number two, that it's exciting to be informed, it's exciting to be involved.
01:36:44.000You started your fight a few years ago, and now you're a presidential candidate for the third largest party in the country.
01:36:50.000And it's very exciting, it's exhilarating, and I am having so much positive effect.
01:36:55.000People are coming up to me, asking me questions, they like our platform.
01:37:00.000Everyone loves Liberty, and when they find out that there is a political party that is actually trying to protect your rights, trying to help you retain your liberty, they also get very enthusiastic.
01:37:12.000So, I'm seeing a great deal of support.
01:37:16.000People can contribute to my campaign at Amazon.com.
01:37:21.000Amazon.com has a place where you can vote for any of the presidential candidates.
01:37:26.000I am currently running third, and I am only a few thousand dollars behind George Bush.
01:37:31.000So it would gather a whole lot of publicity if your listeners would go to Amazon.com to contribute, put me ahead of George Bush, And then I think ABC and CBS would start to contact me because of the impact.
01:37:45.000Is there a link at Bagnaric on the website to that?
01:37:59.000I am currently in third place, but I was in third place when I arrived at our national convention.
01:38:05.000And, you know, I was not, admittedly, Everyone's first choice.
01:38:11.000But I was everyone's favorite second choice.
01:38:14.000And when the voting started going back and forth, and people realized that Gary Nolan was no longer an option, they selected me as their second choice, and I was able to inch out Aaron Russo.
01:38:27.000And the wonderful thing is that all of the Libertarian Party has now come together behind my campaign.
01:38:33.000We have a lot of energy, a lot of synergy, a lot of cohesiveness, That we did not have after some of our other conventions.
01:39:36.000The Libertarian Party stops at the Constitution.
01:39:39.000The Constitution Party takes it one step further and goes to the Bible.
01:39:43.000And I am fully in favor of the First Amendment.
01:39:46.000I support everyone's freedom of religion.
01:39:49.000And if someone believes in the Koran, I think that's just as valid.
01:39:56.000That is a decision that you make with your Creator.
01:40:00.000And so I'm a libertarian because I believe that that supports freedom of religion just a little bit better than the Constitution Party does.
01:40:30.000We started the Department of Health Education and Welfare back in 1953, and last year we just experienced 50 years of government control of our schools.
01:40:40.000In the 50s, American students were number one in math and science.
01:40:45.000And today, we spend ten times as much per student, and our students are functionally illiterate.
01:40:50.000We're behind every industrialized country, and behind a bunch of third-world countries, and if you follow the graph of federal spending, the test scores drop along the line of the graph, and that's because, by design, and I've had former heads of the Department of Education on this show, they have handbooks on how to dumb people down.
01:41:14.000The Department of Education is unconstitutional.
01:41:17.000There's no authority for the federal government to do that.
01:41:19.000And we should eliminate that department simply because they're inefficient.
01:41:23.000The only way to get real education is to put the curriculum back in the hands of the parents and teachers, the people who know the children, who care for the children.
01:41:33.000A parent has a responsibility to teach their children values and teach them to grow up to be good citizens.
01:41:39.000If parents give that responsibility to government, It's little wonder that our children grow up not having the values that we want them to have.
01:41:51.000Yeah, I'm just going to go ahead and spread the word about this.
01:41:53.000I'm really pumped up and I've got a former congressman who does a radio talk show and I'm going to mention about this and see if he can get you on as a guest.
01:42:41.000The court systems that we have in the United States are fairly corrupt.
01:42:46.000They are the ones that are supposed to be protecting our rights, and they're not.
01:42:49.000We need to have fully informed juries.
01:42:53.000John Jay was one of the writers of the Federalist Papers, he was the first Supreme Court Justice, and his instructions to the jury were that they were supposed to decide the facts of the case and also to determine the law, to determine whether a particular law was applicable in that situation.
01:43:10.000Today, judges routinely instruct the juries determine the facts but they insist that as the judge they
01:43:16.000will determine the law and the jurors are required to uh... use
01:43:21.000the judges interpretation there are countless examples were judged while
01:43:25.000the jury see the law he will tell them how to rule that's right and uh... even when juries find someone i'm
01:43:32.000not guilty it is there have been back cases when judges overrule that was the way
01:43:37.000to go ahead the waco criminal case in ninety four
01:43:40.000They were found not guilty, but the judge said, well, I find you guilty of using weapons in the commission of a crime, but they were found not guilty of all the crimes.
01:44:34.000The immigration, basically on free trade, we believe that people should be free to come and go.
01:44:39.000The United States is the greatest country in the world because during the late 1850s and early 1900s, millions of people came from Europe.
01:44:48.000Uh... the Jews, the Polish, the Italians, I mean everybody came here, they set up their little businesses, and they all came with the clothes on their back to get a small... Okay, right there, right there, let me stop, because I've had a chance to hear you talk about this for an hour, and it made sense, but...
01:45:05.000You have to go through the rest of the policies or people won't understand.
01:45:08.000If we had a true free market, if Mexico had a true free market, if China had a true free market, if the government wasn't paying massive welfare and putting ads in foreign newspapers to get the people to come here, the market would keep it from happening by the tens of millions that then drives down our wages.
01:45:26.000So because we don't have a free market, we cannot allow open borders, plus there's the security issue.
01:45:33.000And our free trade agreements, NAFTA and GATT, are called free trade, but what they do is they create a hostile economic environment which forces companies to move their manufacturing and jobs elsewhere.
01:45:51.000And people say, well, Americans couldn't possibly compete with all the slave labor in China, which is ridiculous.
01:45:58.000In the United States, we have technology, we have automated assembly plants, and you cannot make me believe...
01:46:05.000That our American technology cannot produce better products faster at a cheaper cost.
01:46:10.000But the elite have shut it up to where that won't work.
01:46:14.000Where China can have a 42% tariff on us, we have a 2% on them.
01:46:19.000So at this point, Michael, and we certainly can't allow 20-something million people here who aren't documented just to do whatever they want, can we?
01:46:29.000And the fact is that during the immigration of the 1800s and 1900s.
01:46:36.000We have policies at Ellis Island, which made sure that people who were coming to this country were not known criminals, so they did not have diseases.
01:46:44.000And there were a certain percentage of people at Ellis Island who were turned back and sent back to Europe.
01:46:50.000But for the most part, anybody who wanted to come here to work hard, to increase their own standard of living, and to help make the United States a great country, which is exactly what happened.
01:47:00.000So you would stop the welfare, and then that would cut out about 80% of it?
01:47:08.000If I take $100 for you at the point of a gun, That's theft.
01:47:12.000If I spend that $100 on ice cream for orphans, that does not suddenly, miraculously... Okay, so what would you do at the point, though, of, while it's set up like this, not a free market, you know, we have to control the border, deport the people who are here illegally by the tens of millions, and then fix the internal mechanisms before going back to, I mean, trying to get back to a free market.
01:47:35.000Well, I'm not sure exactly what the sequence is.
01:47:38.000I'm just basically trying to spread the message I would have a lot of people on my cabinet who are smarter than I am about the economy and smarter than I am about the military.
01:47:48.000I would surround myself with people who have studied this.
01:47:53.000I know that my powers as President would be limited.
01:47:57.000We're supposed to have a system of checks and balances, and right now, Congress passes unconstitutional laws, the President rubber-stamps them, and the Supreme Court, you know, willfully misinterprets them.
01:48:19.000Mr. Bednarik, I just wanted to say real quick, remember when the Trade Promotion Authority was passed, they gave Bill Clinton that fast-track trade authority, Uh, the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8 says that the Congress is to regulate trade.
01:48:32.000So, you know, when we say all these things, let's keep in mind we already gave everything away, and I want to ask you... That's what he just said.
01:48:39.000We've got to go back to the limitation, the separation of powers.
01:48:42.000Well, I wouldn't give it to anybody else.
01:48:44.000I wouldn't refer it to any other entity other than him to make the decisions, because I don't trust the guy.
01:48:49.000No, no, but see, that's how this starts.
01:48:52.000He has to reduce his authority immediately to get back to the Constitution.
01:48:56.000Okay, I want to ask him real quick here.
01:48:58.000Number one, I want to try to get his petition signed in Pennsylvania because I am excited about this, but I just want to put a heads up on this.
01:49:06.000I don't know if this is something that's just a small detail that isn't being resolved, but somehow the people that have the petition don't have your name as the first person.
01:49:14.000If you could answer, if you know anything about this, tell me what to do.
01:49:17.000The second question is, this whole thing now, It seems to me that every time that we have somebody like, you seem to be not so much, I believe, into this.
01:49:39.000And I just read it, and it made me kind of sick, because basically our little mouthpiece up here in the Pittsburgh area, who pushes everything that's Republican, this is after they threw our country away.
01:49:51.000Ballot access, getting Libertarians on the ballot everywhere where they've been thrown off, and then secondarily, this new sales tax meant to run in tandem with the income tax.
01:50:17.000It's the same as giving blacks the right to vote, but then having poll taxes and Jim Crow laws that make that impossible to follow through.
01:50:26.000uh... the sales taxes i've my goal is to eliminate the iraq at dot replace it
01:50:31.000with anything what we need to do is we need to reduce the size of government so
01:50:35.000that we don't have to pay for those first place constitution was ratified
01:50:39.000seventeen eighty nine that we didn't have an income taxes till nineteen
01:50:43.000thirteen we had a well for a hundred years with the united states with the
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01:55:26.000Okay, um, I will refuse to answer religious questions because Article 6 of the Constitution says that no religious test will be taken.
01:55:34.000What you need to know is that I will defend your right to religion.
01:55:39.000So if I were to, for example, say that I was Buddhist, which I'm not, but all the Buddhists would be in support of me and, you know, other religions would not.
01:55:49.000I will definitely defend your religion.
01:55:53.000The Libertarian Party believes that a woman owns her body, and that she has a right to choose.
01:55:58.000I understand that this is a controversial issue, and it will remain so until we can determine... Well, I went to a Libertarian meeting a few months ago, and they believe a woman has a right, but that the baby is separate from her, and it has a right.
01:56:10.000And so there's a large debate raging in the Libertarian Party concerning that.
01:56:50.000Yes, thanks Alex and thanks Michael for taking my call.
01:56:54.000I have a question for you and I'd like to know what is your position on Masonic Affairs Basically, the private secret intelligence agencies are mafias.
01:57:25.000I mean, you can have your privacy at home for your personal life, but when you take an oath To protect and defend the Constitution, to protect other people's rights, to have any other oath that would supersede that would definitely be a conflict of interest.
01:57:42.000Yeah, that's a good point, I agree with that.
01:57:45.000Last caller we have time for, Wesley in Tennessee, go ahead.
02:00:20.000I'll definitely have to have Michael Bagnarik, Libertarian Presidential Candidate, back on here in the near future so we can take more of your phone calls and have more of a debate and see where he stands on the issues.
02:00:32.000But just briefly, Michael, I appreciate you holding through.
02:00:35.000Just give out your website and phone number one more time for those that missed it.
02:02:15.000Then we're going to break and come back and give us the info you got this year from Bilderberg.
02:02:20.000Well, I'm a fat 69-year-old paper boy.
02:02:23.000Spent my first 20 years with daily newspapers.
02:02:27.000And until 1975, when I was first being interviewed at Liberty Lobby for the purpose of getting pregnant and creating spotlight, I'd never heard of Bilderberg.
02:02:40.000Right-wing conspiracy theory or something, but it's so well documented that I became a believer immediately and outraged at the fact that I could hold high positions with daily newspapers for 20 years and not know that the Bilderberg existed.
02:02:57.000And for the last, I guess more than 26 years then, how long have you been covering Mildenberg?
02:03:14.000Now again, if we have 100 Hollywood stars meeting in secret, it would be besieged by helicopters and news media, but you've got 140 or 120, depending on what year, and about another 100 minions meeting in secret, and we're not supposed to talk about it.
02:03:31.000It is something the establishment press simply cannot answer.
02:03:36.000Many times in the National Press Club in Washington, just mingling with other paperboys, I would put exactly the same question.
02:03:44.000120 film stars, 120 NFL football players, beating behind armed guards in a sealed off resort for three days.
02:03:53.000You would try your best to find out what's happening.
02:03:56.000You'd climb fences, you'd go through drain pipes.
02:04:01.000You would try your best to find out what transpired.
02:04:03.000Now that may be significant to football fans, of which I'm one, or to movie fans, of which I'm not.
02:04:14.000But certainly, when 120 of the world's most powerful men meet secretly to make decisions that affect you and me and most of the people on earth, there's no curiosity whatsoever.
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02:08:55.000I mean, major breaking story after breaking story.
02:08:58.000So people get an idea of what we're talking about.
02:09:01.000What are some of the major stories that you've broken, in some cases years before, because of your moles, that is employees, at these resorts that you get to tell you about and to get you materials from inside Bilderberg?
02:09:18.000Bilderberg pressured President Bush, the elder, to break his Read My Lips, No New Taxes pledge, and within the year he did, reversed himself completely.
02:09:29.000It may have cost him the election in 1992 to Bill Clinton by breaking that pledge.
02:09:39.000This is a story on the downfall of Lady Thatcher as Prime Minister Britain.
02:09:48.000She should have attended one Dillenberg meeting, had nothing to say and left.
02:09:54.000But they were angry at her for resisting the euro and resisting surrendering sovereignty to the European Union.
02:10:02.000And so they said she must go and she was replaced by a trapeze artist from her own party, by her own party.
02:10:09.000And later I had the privilege of talking briefly for a few minutes with Lady Thatcher at a reception in Washington, and I asked her reaction to what Bilderberg had done, and this is almost a direct quote.
02:10:24.000She said that she considered being denounced by Bilderberg, quote, a tribute quote.
02:10:30.000The call, she said, no national leader should surrender one bit of sovereignty to an international body.
02:10:36.000And, of course, that stood in the way of the great super-state, the European Union, being developed into the United States of Europe.
02:10:44.000And they're taking some licks this year because of the results of the parliamentary voting in Europe among the European Union nations, including the ten new ones, that ended Sunday.
02:10:57.000And the people running for European Parliament who opposed the European Parliament's existence, many of them gained seats.
02:11:05.000And they're trying to have their draft Constitution ratified, but they're going to meet in Brussels in a day or two to approve the draft of the European Union Constitution.
02:11:15.000They call it the Constitution for the United States of Europe, if that has any historic ring to it.
02:11:22.000And by the way, it's very draconian, no real liberties.
02:11:26.000And on top of all of this, we have the Bilderberg Group, of course, many of our leaders attending it.
02:11:36.000Jim, do you have that quote in front of you of David Rockefeller thanking the news media for covering all this up?
02:11:42.000No, I don't have it right in front of me, but I've heard it many times.
02:12:16.000He's been positively identified by a group of reporters, me and several from Italy, which incidentally, they got the most attention they've ever had from the Italian press.
02:12:28.000Leading page one at a time when President Reagan's dying, President Bush is in Rome to talk to the Pope and to Bersaglione, who Bersaglione attended, and gearing up for the D-Day commemorations.
02:12:43.000Yet, on the major newspaper, he was the lead story.
02:15:20.000There's many from Great Britain, John Brown's bill, I'm just scanning the list even as we speak, or the British types, Kenneth Clark, a regular, he's a member of Parliament, former Chancellor Exchequer, a conservative member of the British Parliament.
02:15:39.000He's, well, I talked to him some years ago, Admitted eyeball-to-eyeball about the Billibergs grant scheme for the NAFTA is through the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas is to expand into the American Union and the dollar will be our euro.
02:15:59.000Then the Asian Pacific Union will be the third major region in the world for the convenience, administrative convenience of the world government, which is the UN.
02:16:09.000And he just acknowledged that directly, not happily, but directly.
02:16:13.000Eyeball to eyeball, in the presence of other reporters.
02:16:17.000Now, in the last two years, again two years ago, the government was saying, we're going to invade this summer, it's going to be 2002, and you said, nope, from inside Bilderberg, I got the word, it's going to be in 2003 in March.
02:16:31.000And then exactly that happened, what, 11 months later after you reported it.
02:16:37.000Jim, this year, what was it like when you got on the ground?
02:16:43.000Well, this year, Bilderberg has chastised the United States and Britain, and we anticipate that in an advanced story, for not giving enough In the way of foreign aid to poor countries of the world, we should increase taxes in the United States and send more money abroad.
02:17:03.000And of course when we hear that, that really means give money to the IMF and World Bank and go enslave third world countries.
02:17:09.000They're the main conduits of sending American tax dollars overseas.
02:17:13.000The British were kicked around some too for not giving enough away.
02:17:17.000The United States of course kicked around for the invasion of Iraq with some justification.
02:17:28.000The Bilderberg from Europe gave some concessions to the United States, because they do recognize that beneath it all, the United States funds one quarter of the UN's operating expenses, one-fourth of an organization of 188 nations.
02:17:48.000It's suggested that the economy in Europe should contribute a little bit more, perhaps.
02:17:53.000And one-third of the 16 so-called peacekeeping missions uh... and all of the uh...
02:18:00.000specifically ill-advised invasion of iraq so uh...
02:18:06.000they'll back up a little bit when things get too edgy between the united states
02:18:10.000because they do not want to have to make up the difference in one quarter of their general
02:18:14.000operating costs and one third of their so-called peacekeeping missions which is a tremendous
02:18:23.000and use us as the bad cop to do the dirty work for them.
02:18:26.000What other little tidbits do you have for us that we're going to see on the horizon?
02:18:30.000You always get us some major development that Bilderberg is pushing for in the next year.
02:18:39.000Well, one thing that the United States' promising effort to placate the British Was it in Iraq we try to hunker down to more of a defensive operation and let a few or so destroy missions and for that the uh... See I'm trying to remember something uh... Oh, this is a bigger thought crossed my mind.
02:19:07.000Now I know you're sitting there with all of your notes and you just got back from Europe.
02:19:10.000One of our guys, still a little jet lagged, one of our guys I had a photograph of David Rockefeller having lunch with one of these magic cameras that can zoom in from a football field away.
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02:19:26.000He puts his head down over the plate and slurps in his food.
02:19:29.000I could have a photograph of that, but we do have photographs, but not the perfect one of him, but the food's sloppy.
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02:23:44.000Music Alright, Jim just got back from Europe.
02:23:55.000He's got all his notes there with him. They're in the bright room.
02:24:22.000You broke the story years ago, literally, before it was even in our media, what, a decade ago?
02:24:27.000The plan of this Tobin tax on money transfers.
02:24:30.000Now you're saying during the break that they're leaning towards an oil tax because they already controlled that through the cartel, the Arabs are puppets for them.
02:24:38.000And this will be trillions of dollars, even though it's a small tax, in the aggregate in the next decade, off of total world oil supply, and bring in international regulations.
02:24:50.000Yes, both proposals from Bilderberg have been pending before the United Nations for several years now, though not reported in the mainstream press.
02:24:59.000One proposal was a tax on international financial transfers and the other was a tax on oil at
02:26:11.000In fact, every big global G8 or whatever meeting they have, they now openly talk about this, and I think you and your paper have had a lot to do with that, because ten years ago, five years ago, they totally denied all this.
02:26:22.000Now they admit it, but I hadn't heard the inside info that they were moving towards the gas tax.
02:26:27.000Yes, they prefer that over the financial transaction deal, which will not be withdrawn because they want a tax.
02:26:33.000But their strong preference now is the oil tax over the tax on international financial transactions.
02:26:55.000The Americans are being I think it's a mistake also, and many good patriotic Americans do.
02:27:05.000Learning that the Pentagon was considering reducing troop levels in Germany and other places, the Bilderberg reaction was just terrible.
02:27:13.000They argued it would undermine unity, etc.
02:27:18.000Now, the reason for this is that an American military base in Germany is a local economic generator.
02:27:27.000The way those soldiers spend their money, and when they have their families with them living off base, they just do not want the Americans to go away for economic reasons, not military concerns whatsoever.
02:27:38.000Now we'll get into the Brits and getting spanked because they can't get their people to accept the Euro, but before we do that, I wanted to You know, talk about the Bilderberg Group and their larger designs.
02:27:50.000I mean, obviously, according to your reports two years ago, they said, hold off on the war for a year.
02:28:00.000And obviously the EU and the rest of them are profiting from this because they own much of our nation.
02:28:07.000And they want us to play the part of the bad cop.
02:28:10.000But why were the Bilderbergs, Now you're saying, spanking us for the war, or why were some of them against it?
02:28:19.000Well, they were opposed to the invasion of Iraq when they started being built up two years ago, partly because of political pragmatism.
02:28:30.000People all over Europe were horrified by the idea of invading Iraq, the United States going it alone.
02:28:36.000So they think that the Anglo-American bloc was moving too quickly?
02:28:41.000Of course, without UN permission, all that stuff, we should get permission slips, as Bush would say.
02:28:45.000But at that meeting in Chantilly, let's see, not this year, not last year, the year before, 2001, I think it was, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld roared out from the Pentagon to Chantilly, which is about 30 miles away in Virginia, near Dulles Airport.
02:29:08.000To promise the Europeans that the invasion would not come this year.
02:29:16.000By that time, all the newspapers were reporting that the war will start by late summer or early fall at the very latest.
02:29:24.000And oddly, Jim Hoagland, the associate editor for Washington Post and the Billerberg Regular, along with their publisher Donald Graham... Stay there, we'll finish when we get to...
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02:35:47.000Going back to Jim Tucker, you were talking about how There were members of the press corps there, one of the owners of the Washington Post there, some of their writers there, and they knew that the war had been put off a year.
02:36:01.000You got that information, we're the only person to publish that, and they decided to just ignore it and not tell the people.
02:36:09.000Talk about violating public trust, Jim!
02:36:11.000What I cannot understand is why Jim Hoagland, he hates to be called Jimmy Lee Hoagland, I should remember that, Jimmy Lee Hoagland, Associated Editor of the Washington Post did not even go over to the World Desk, his own newspaper, and say, boys, pipe down on war by late summer, early fall.
02:36:31.000I've got reason to believe it will not occur until next year.
02:36:33.000When he was there hearing, Rumsfeld promised it would not start this year.
02:36:38.000He didn't say when it would start, but he promised it would not be in the year 2002.
02:36:43.000It would be no earlier than the year 2003.
02:36:46.000That was an effort to pacify the Uh, uh, European Bilderberg members, and it marked the first time, uh, in history, there's been known to be a, uh, a serious rift in Bilderberg, which has been, uh, traditionally a very congenial group, and they still have their, uh, common goal, of course, of world government and all that jazz.
02:37:10.000But, uh, then the rift still persists to this day, uh, with criticism over the Asian, although The United States cut some concessions and they pressured the UN Security Council to vote unanimously to endorse the occupation of Iraq as it is now.
02:37:31.000But the American Bilderberg guys on Bush's behalf, especially the Defense and State Department guys, wanted the Europeans to support NATO's formal involvement in the war.
02:37:45.000NATO said no, effectively saying we're not going to clean up your mess afterwards.
02:37:52.000You got in by yourself, you didn't consult NATO, you did it without consulting NATO or
02:37:58.000the UN and so the UN is going to take a very, even blessing the occupation is to be now
02:38:06.000with the sovereignty handed over, there's not going to be a heavy UN...
02:38:10.000presence as far as helping the United States.
02:38:12.000So again, they're playing the part of the good cop, the savior.
02:38:15.000I want to shift gears just briefly and then want to go straight to calls, Jim.
02:38:31.000Okay, I wanted to get your take on this, because you're in Washington, you're around this.
02:38:35.000I call it propaganda placement, not product placement.
02:38:39.000Where the government is paying for stuff in sitcoms, dramas, movies, fake newscasts, newspapers, radio stations, it goes on right here in Austin.
02:38:49.000This was out of the London Guardian, it was also the New York Times, but only one small piece of this.
02:38:54.000government fake Bush news reports, TV news in America, that show President Bush giving a standing ovation for political voters have been exposed as fake.
02:39:05.000government admitted, this is London Guardian, it paid actors to pose as journalists in video news releases sent to TV stations and paid for, by the way, a $70 million ad buy.
02:39:15.000Intending to convey support for new laws about health benefits.
02:39:20.000I mean, how far down the big brother police state propaganda chasm have we slipped when only one article about, you know, $70 million media buy with fake newscasts, Jim?
02:41:40.000Well, this particular article that you were aware of is where they spent $70 million paying for these fake newscasts to air on TV stations.
02:41:47.000I even saw one in Austin last year and I was like, man, that's a weird newscast with these fake newscasters going, people love the president, it's all good.
02:41:54.000I didn't personally see that when I read about it.
02:41:57.000Yeah, but I mean, imagine, well, it's like the fake letters from troops with fake signatures.
02:42:28.000and he used military all over the world to Like Monaco, the Windscale Stage 1 invaded Yugoslavia, preventing the threat of Yugoslavia bombing Washington.
02:42:39.000I tell you what, let's take some calls, Jim.
02:42:48.000I'm just now going on a terminally from the U.S.
02:42:51.000Navy, and there's a The reason for that as far as not being enlisted or staying in, because I spent three years overseas and just came to Virginia and just was shocked by the plan.
02:43:28.000Or, say now, an aircraft carrier doesn't travel alone.
02:43:30.000An aircraft carrier travels with a group of destroyers, frigates, flyships, submarines, and X amount of air weight, depending on size of the carrier, can hold about 100 aircraft.
02:43:40.000There'll be a lot of bombing coming up, a lot more bombing.
02:43:43.000Well, they say they're going to Syria.
02:43:46.000That's where the carrier battle fleets are going.
02:44:45.000Well, there has been some speculation that we'd hit Syria very quickly if the Iraq War had calmed down as quickly and neatly as the administration mistakenly expected.
02:44:57.000I hope this is not a build-up for an invasion of Syria before we Can even settle down a rock.
02:45:06.000Well, the administration might have some helpful terror events, like they said in PNAC documents, that get us all behind that in the new national draft.
02:45:14.000Any talk of the draft in Bilderberg, Jim?
02:45:19.000Not so much talk of the draft at Bilderberg that I'm aware of, but there are draft bills pending in the Congress, and President Bush is now quietly Filling in the manpower at the old draft boards that we knew before.
02:45:37.000Kids were told to simply go down and tell the post office where you are in case we ever need a draft.
02:46:16.000They're going to take them all out of this country.
02:46:20.000Now, but specifics, sir, like the last caller, I mean, it's admitted there's this record armada leaving, but I mean, what's your specifics?
02:47:24.000I would like to ask you if you believe that Maybe not necessarily the Bilderbergers by themselves, but the Bilderbergers in combination with the Trilateralists and these other large secret groups are in a position to have enough strength to dictate pretty well what the President can and can't do in the United States.
02:47:46.000Well, as demonstrated so many times, they can bring tremendous pressure.
02:47:50.000And understand now that every presence since Ford up until Excluding Reagan to a certain extent, but up until the current president has been a member of either Bilderberg or Trilateral Commission.
02:48:05.000And as you know, they have an interlocking leadership.
02:48:07.000The Trilateral Commission is a little bit more public.
02:48:30.000The CFR with 3,000 members, their job is to produce a Well-reasoned white paper reflecting what Bilderberg wants done.
02:48:42.000For instance, the year that Big Bush was moving toward breaking his No New Taxes Pledge, the CFR comes out with a big white paper on why it's in every American's best interest that they pay more income tax.
02:48:56.000And they came out with a white paper before 9-11 saying, give all your rights up, have dribs on the streets, we're about to be hit.
02:49:02.000And the people went, oh, you're such geniuses when it happened.
02:49:04.000The CFR is the Propaganda Ministry for Bilderberg, and the Trilateral Commission includes Japan.
02:49:49.000Lost his Virginia to Bilderberg this year.
02:49:51.000Now Bill Clinton, a little-known governor, went in 1991.
02:49:57.000What does this mean to see John Edwards there?
02:49:59.000They probably think he should be on the ticket with Kerry.
02:50:03.000And so they'll own both horses in a two-horse race as usual.
02:50:10.000I said a moment ago that Reagan was not a member, and officially he was not a member of the Trilateral Commission.
02:50:16.000When he was running in the Republican primaries in 1980, he had his staff denounce the Trilateral Commission in order to embarrass Big Bush.
02:50:28.000And Big Bush resigned, saying that the Trilateral Commission is misunderstood.
02:50:32.000Uh, then he comes on the ticket with Reagan.
02:50:34.000The following March in Washington, D.C.
02:50:36.000for Trilateral Smith, uh, the Vice President Bush addressed the Trilateral Commission meeting.
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02:53:41.000Well it's always great to have Jim Tucker on.
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02:54:18.000Jim, I kind of want to end this interview like we started it, but maybe elaborate on it.
02:54:23.000If you've got five movie stars at the beach, 50 reporters go out there.
02:54:29.000If you get 120 somewhere, it's a major television event with 30 million viewers.
02:54:35.000If they were hiding in secret in a mansion doing something, as you said, people would be catapulting themselves to the windows.
02:54:42.000But 120 richest people in the world, royalty, people who were normally followed by the paparazzi, Suddenly, they're meeting in secret, admitting it's about government, but if we ask questions, somehow we're bad.
02:54:54.000The BBC, I don't know if you saw that article, viciously attacked those.
02:54:58.000They said, well, McVeigh and Bin Laden talk about this.
02:55:01.000Maybe if you talk about it, you're with them.
02:55:03.000I mean, this is really childish psychology they're using.
02:55:51.000Although, the newspapers in Italy, some of the big metropolitan big papers, Which gave such heavy attention, and of course I can't read Italian, so the other reporters, when we gather for our evening meetings to compare notes and exchange information, they gladly said that they treated me nicely in a couple of interviews by their newspapers of me.
02:56:18.000Well, I mean, it seems like the Italians know about secret government and know it's a bad thing.
02:56:23.000Why are we so naive in America and England?
02:56:26.000Because the press, well, The press of the United States is very easily controlled.
02:56:34.000The heads of the major newspapers have all attended at one time or another.
02:56:39.000The Washington Post is regular, but they've had the New York Times, the LA Times, all the major network anchors at one time or another on a lifetime promise of absolute secrecy, report nothing, say nothing.
02:56:54.000So they bring major newspaper editors in, you sign a non-disclosure agreement, that's admitted, and then now you can't have a report on any of those issues.
02:57:06.000I'm saying that Jimmy Lee Hoagland is a journalistic prostitute, as is his boss, young Donald Graham, as were the late Mrs. Graham and the late Phil Graham before him, going all the way back to Not 1954 and well this year as usual to the guys from the Economist of London Gideon Rockman and Adrian Wooldridge were there as rapporteurs they call them.
02:57:36.000They've made that promise, and there's several others.
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