Saddam Hussein is facing the possibility of being tried and executed for crimes he did not commit. The Red Cross has given the U.S. government a ultimatum: Release him, charge him, or break international law. A new Justice Department memo says torture may be justified. The White House wants Saddam by the end of the month, and the US is saying they might do that.
00:01:11.000Release him, charge him, or break international law, Bush told.
00:01:18.000And then, even if they follow the international law, they can have a four-year trial and not let him face his accusers or have any of his witnesses.
00:01:27.000And he can even have his medication denied, just like that is Slobovan Milošević, for that ongoing kangaroo court trial.
00:01:34.000I mean, I'm not saying Saddam or Slobovan Milošević are good people, but compared to the globalists, they're nothing, my friends.
00:01:42.000So there's the Red Cross acting like, oh, you've got to follow what the UN and international law says, and so either way, either it's the tyranny of the globalists in the US, or the tyranny of the EU and the UN.
00:01:57.000They are having to respond to that now.
00:01:59.000Iraq wants Saddam by the end of the month, and the U.S.
00:02:04.000But again, it's the new puppet government appointed that will be trying Saddam Hussein, and probably executing him.
00:02:12.000Bush has said that he wants him executed.
00:02:14.000His old business partner, get rid of daddy's business partner that didn't pay in his BCCI money, In the late 80s and got set up in 1990, told to invade Kuwait, but again we should just ignore all the facts.
00:03:36.000So we've got to say the Nazis were good.
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00:08:54.000Last February, two Army counterintelligence agents showed up at the University of Texas Law School and demanded to see the roster from a conference held at the law school a few days earlier.
00:09:06.000They were trying to track down students who the agents claimed had been asking suspicious questions.
00:09:11.000I felt like I was in law and order, said one student, after being grilled by one of the agents, which the dean handed over to them.
00:09:18.000And they were grilling other groups as well.
00:09:20.000The incident provoked a brief campus uproar and the Army later admitted that the agents had exceeded their authority.
00:09:25.000But in the Pentagon has its way, the Army may not have to make such amends in the future.
00:09:30.000Without any public hearing or debate, Newsweek has learned, defense officials recently slipped a provision into a bill before Congress that could vastly expand the Pentagon's ability to gather intelligence inside the United States, including recruiting citizens as informants.
00:09:46.000Then a caller called and said, hey, have you seen this article out of Connecticut?
00:09:53.000Out of the Day newspaper, big local newspaper there in Waterbury.
00:10:05.000And we did post it on PrisonPlanet.com.
00:10:07.000Since then, it's gone to subscription.
00:10:09.000You've got to just register to get it.
00:10:10.000I think we should go and register, tell my webmaster this, and get the article and post it ourselves.
00:10:15.000But you can read where they start out the article and say, well, the police department isn't very nice, and it's overcrowded, and so is the fire department.
00:10:28.000There's a National Guard base, and it's been made the new emergency center, and We're going to merge the fire department, the police department, the city government, in a partnership with the National Guard, and they're going to help keep us safe from terrorists.
00:10:42.000I mean, literally, like Iraq, putting the military over the government.
00:10:47.000And here in Austin, out at Bergstrom International Airport, formerly an air base, about a third, a little under a third of the base is still a military base, and they've got the APD out there, housed with the U.S.
00:11:13.000A total violation of Posit Comitatus and the Tenth Amendment.
00:11:17.000And it has nothing to do with terrorism.
00:11:19.000You know, their definition of terrorism is all crime.
00:11:22.000And it's not just the military surveilling us, now we're going to have These tens of thousands of secret military police in plain clothes, running around, demanding to interrogate us and ask us questions.
00:11:34.000This year, they had a five-part symposium called the New World Order.
00:11:41.000And they had it at UT, and they'd have former CIA Directors and Deputy Directors and Generals in to give speeches, and you'd go to the LBJ Presidential Library, and there'd be, you know, 20 cameras rolling, and they'd walk up to us and go, turn your cameras off.
00:11:57.000There'd be troops in suits, you know, there with the General, the retired General who runs that department in UT, General Magus, And then I didn't go to the last event.
00:12:09.000They started getting physical, actually grabbing on our people last time.
00:12:14.000So, this was the new America, just where you have troops trying to stop you from videotaping, getting in your face.
00:12:21.000And if you don't know your rights, they'll intimidate you, drag you behind closed doors, get in your face, threaten to arrest you.
00:12:28.000I mean, that's the Soviet Union, boys and girls.
00:13:43.000They're going to shut up their police state, they're going to carry out more terror attacks to legitimize the continual crackdown on the population.
00:13:50.000And they're going to put more and more people in prison for petty crimes in these private prisons owned by the military-industrial complex that is carrying out the terror attacks.
00:14:02.000I've got a bunch of reports here where they're now admitting that, well, you're worried about torture in Iraq.
00:14:06.000Torture and murder and death is going on all over the prisons, coast to coast as well.
00:14:15.000And I saw law enforcement publications before 9-11, you know, with headlines like, The Case for Torture.
00:14:22.000And law enforcement magazines promoting torture.
00:14:24.000Torture isn't really bad, because we're the good guys.
00:14:27.000But when we torture people, You know, we get the answers out of them, and this is how we're going to keep the people safe in America.
00:14:40.000And they've sold it, you know, in all these editorials.
00:14:42.000Well, what if we've got a terrorist and there's a bomb planted and they won't tell us where the bomb's at and it's going to kill 100 people?
00:15:07.000It's going to be you being tortured under news cameras out of a protest as men in black ski masks and Darth Vader outfits beat you within an inch of your life or kill you.
00:15:16.000And then, well, they shouldn't have protested.
00:15:19.000So this whole mentality has been sold to us now.
00:15:22.000And it's a quick slip into the Soviet-slash-Nazi-fication of America.
00:15:57.000So they give you a false choice, see, a false bipolar political spectrum, when really it's all on the same paradigm.
00:16:05.000Nadam Domani, a spokeswoman for ICRC, International Committee on the Red Cross, told The Guardian that the United States defies Saddam Hussein as a prisoner of war.
00:16:19.000At the end of the occupation, POWs have to be released provided they have no penal charges against them.
00:16:26.000Her comments came as the international body, the only independent group with access to detainees in U.S.
00:16:30.000custody, and basically a CIA MI6 front, becomes increasingly concerned over legal limbo in which thousands of people are being held in the run-up to the transfer of power at the end of the month.
00:16:56.000Iraq wants Saddam by the end of the month.
00:16:58.000AP, the new Iraqi government, wants custody of Saddam Hussein and all other prisoners by the time sovereignty is handed over at the end of the month, the interim prime minister said.
00:17:08.000And then they go on to admit that our troops man the prisons, our interrogators run the prisons, and then the new appointed government says, we want you to stay and run things.
00:17:48.000Army reenlistments have dropped suddenly and dramatically at Fort Carson and several other posts where combat units have recently returned from Iraq.
00:17:57.000The surprising deadline within the past 21 and a half months has jolted recruiters and military analysts and provoked questions about the war's effect on the Army's recruiting ability.
00:18:11.000And it says, since Fort Carson units began coming home in April, post-recruiters have met only 57% of their quota for the re-enlistment first-term soldiers for the second hitch, according to an Army report.
00:18:24.000Well, with most of them, they're saying, well, there's a little-known clause that you signed onto that says that we can make you re-enlist.
00:18:32.000And that is indeed what they're doing.
00:18:37.000And again, on the torture situation, this is out of the BBC, it's also in the Associated Press, a similar article, Iraq abuse ordered from the top!
00:18:45.000commander at the center of the Iraq prisoner scandal says she was told to treat detainees like dogs.
00:18:51.000But see, they're trying to blame her, that way when there's a trial, a court-martial, She'll be found not guilty because she wasn't even allowed in those wings of the prisons.
00:19:00.000So they go after someone who's quasi-innocent to then go, oh look, we did an investigation, she did nothing.
00:19:06.000All they ignore are the private contractors with CIA power running it.
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00:24:21.000He'll be joining us in the next segment.
00:24:23.000And then we're going to have a roundtable, Paul Watson, myself, Alex Jones, and Nick Begich, Dr. Nick Begich.
00:24:31.000From his great institute, his professor up in Alaska, his father of course a congressman who was probably killed by foul play by the Globalist for exposing the New World Order, just an expert on a whole host of issues, chemtrails, HAARP, Climate changes, the New World Order, secret weapons, stuff that's public now that he's gotten through FOIA requests.
00:24:55.000That's coming up, so we'll have Paul for 30 minutes by himself, and then we'll have Paul for the second hour with our guests, kind of a roundtable discussion.
00:25:04.000I'll be doing some more of these roundtable discussions that we've done over the years here on the broadcast.
00:25:09.000Continuing with torture, I mean, again, If you don't put your thoughts, your memories, into a memory hole, that is, if you don't flush your memory every day or two like the general public does, you'll see the fraud in plain view.
00:25:23.000All over national television since 9-11, they've said, torture's good, beat people with rubber hoses, pull their teeth out.
00:25:30.000I mean, that's been the New York Times.
00:26:04.000It was going on at all 32 of the camps in Iraq.
00:26:07.000It's going on at Camp X-Ray, going on at camps in Afghanistan, and camps our government runs in several other Arab countries that are our little buddies, like Egypt and Jordan.
00:26:19.000I mean, there's been CIA section chiefs in the Washington Post bragging how they torture people and bring their children to the camps to quote, threaten them.
00:26:29.000I mean, they're admitting they threaten people's children.
00:26:47.000Well, Top generals are saying they were ordered to do it, that they weren't even allowed to run those areas of the bases that the CIA was running it, and now, last week we learned of a Defense Department memo saying Bush is quote, above federal and international law, follows no laws, makes laws as he actually said, he's the Supreme Leader!
00:27:08.000Well, here's the Washington Post, Justice Department memo says torture may be justified.
00:27:14.000And, uh, today the Washington Post is posting a copy of the August 1st, 2002 memorandum, PDF, Standards for Conduct of Interrogation under 18 U.S.C.
00:27:25.0002340-2340A from the Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel for Alberto R. Gonzales, counsel of the President Bush.
00:27:33.000And, uh, it says that the memo was written at the request of the CIA.
00:27:36.000The CIA wanted authority to conduct more aggressive interrogations, including Operation Copper Green submerging individuals underwater.
00:27:45.000You've seen Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson?
00:27:48.000You know, they did research for that film.
00:27:50.000The CIA will put you on hallucinogens to make you panic even worse and put you in a metal chair and start dunking you in water over your head over and over again.
00:28:02.000But they don't have that, they put a bag over your head.
00:28:05.000And boy, you'll confess to anything then.
00:28:07.000Then you'll go out and say, yes, I'm Al Qaeda.
00:28:09.000I was planning to do all this while the real Al Qaeda is CIA being protected.
00:28:14.000And it goes into how they've authorized torture in it.
00:28:28.000hotel room, out in California, taping episodes of Conspiracy Theory for TNN, and I watched Rumsfeld brag and he even said the torture word.
00:28:49.000And the sickos on talk radio, the sickos on the nightly news, the sickos in the editorials, the left and the right, promoting torture, saying torture's good.
00:28:59.000I mean, I don't want to belabor this, but it's horrible.
00:29:04.000And now these troops are coming back to America, they're going to domestically run our cities, Newsweek reporting.
00:29:11.000You know, Connecticut newspapers reporting it.
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00:33:44.000I want to get into more admissions now that the Patriot Act's being used against the general public in non-terrorism related cases.
00:33:52.000But using double-think and double-speak, the government says, well, all crime, all suspicion of crime is terrorism, and these chilling articles where the military's taking over major cities and towns and secret police are everywhere.
00:34:43.000Paul, good to have you on the broadcast with us.
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00:34:56.000Well, we just posted a bunch of interviews just yesterday from last week, basically.
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00:36:33.000Tell the folks what Order Out of Chaos covers, Paul.
00:36:36.000Well, it's basically a hop around the globe from Russia to England to the US to Israel and prove that, you know, terrorism is state-sponsored in every major case over the past 20, 30 years.
00:36:49.000And on top of that, it's got a chapter on torture, which I was talking about, we were talking about.
00:37:12.000Yeah, one of the first to be attacked for it as well.
00:37:15.000Because the leap of conclusion in the Vanity Fair piece, which we were featured in in the May issue, My contention that pod missiles were evident and that the planes were likely remote-controlled was compared by the author of that article to racism.
00:37:32.000Now, try and make that connection, because I can't, and it's because other people, not me, not you, have said that, you know, a bunch of ragheads couldn't have done this.
00:37:40.000We never said that, but they take those comments and splice them in with what we're saying, and it all amounts to racism, apparently.
00:37:50.000Almost like the BBC last week, it said, well, a bunch of world leaders are meeting in secret, but McVeigh and Bin Laden think the Mueller murder is bad.
00:38:02.000I had Jim Tucker on yesterday and he said that it was front page of a bunch of major daily Italian newspapers putting Tucker and others in a good light.
00:38:10.000So, we've gone the last five years from Bilderberg Group doesn't exist, you believe in space aliens if you say it does, and now, okay, world leaders are meeting, 120 of them, and they're minions, but, you know, royalty, but if you want to cover it, you're still a weirdo.
00:38:27.000Well yeah, the BBC themselves covered it the year before, where they said that Bilderberg announced the European Union years before it existed.
00:38:35.000So I guess BBC themselves, in equating Bilderberg with having power, are, you know, racist.
00:38:45.000Or whoever this British nail bomber was, they mentioned him too.
00:38:49.000Folks, if you want to get Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror, and the New World Order, or my book, 9-11, Descent into Tyranny, which is $12, it's 224 pages long.
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00:39:42.000zero four and these videos folks are the preeminent
00:39:46.000films on nine eleven I've seen them all, and I could carry some other great films, but they only cover certain aspects of 9-11.
00:39:51.000You know, the architecture of the buildings, the Pentagon, that's Eric Huffman's videos do that, and they're great.
00:39:57.000My videos cover the whole spectrum of government-sponsored terror, and just, you know, cover dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of aspects of it.
00:40:35.000I know we're the first to put a film out on the subject, of course, and then we put out others.
00:40:39.000But now we've found out that there is this PR firm that's basically a GOP arm telling people to call and try to shut it down at the theaters.
00:40:48.000They're fools, that's only going to backfire on them.
00:40:51.000But here's CNN and others picking up on this like this is a legitimate story, and they're not getting into the fact that some of these theaters are now being threatened, and I think this is despicable.
00:41:03.000I obviously haven't seen the video yet, but in a sense a lot of these left-wing presentations that do delve into 9-11 are obvious, you know, limited hangouts.
00:41:15.000It's like with Democracy Now!, the left-wing media organisation.
00:41:20.000Anyone who talks about 9-11 in the sense that there was government involvement, not just prior knowledge, or business dealings with, you know, representatives of Bin Laden and Bush, anyone that talks about actual involvement is castigated and in many cases not allowed on the show.
00:41:37.000had an author by the name of David Ray Griffin on a couple of weeks ago and that caused a storm on the internet.
00:41:44.000Because the presenter, in a debate with a debunker with this author, and the author was basically, he wrote a book about Pearl Harbor, said that there was inside involvement, they knew it was going to happen.
00:41:55.000And the host, Amy Goodman, attacked the author of this book and supported the presentation of the debunker.
00:42:03.000But it's now admitted we have the Pentagon, at that time Department of War, documents where they knew days before the date of the attack and let it happen.
00:42:13.000Well, exactly, and that's been known ever since it happened in some circles.
00:42:18.000But again, you will get these left-wingers that act as gatekeepers in that they only allow a portion of the information out, and it's always the least damning information.
00:42:29.000And so that's what I see going on with the morphing.
00:42:32.000But then again, the revelations that are in that film, most specifically the grounding of all commercial air traffic and the Exits of the Bin Laden family, which was, you know, approved by Bush apparently, or whoever makes the decisions for Bush.
00:43:04.000It says, new objections to Fahrenheit 9-11.
00:43:07.000Group asked public to call executives at theaters where film critical of White House will be shown.
00:43:13.000And what really happened is reporting.
00:43:14.000They did the trace back on the internet and found out it was this PR firm that then tried to erase that.
00:43:20.000And now that they've been exposed, they're going ahead and going public.
00:43:23.000And it says that a conservative organization, yeah, a real conservative, called Move Forward America, or Move America Forward, formed in May to rally support for U.S.
00:43:33.000troops in the war on terror, has asked the public to call and email executives at TheaterChange, scheduled to show the film according to vanity, I mean variety, Michael Moore has the right to free speech, said MAF Chairman Howard Kalugin, according to Variety, but so do millions of Americans who find this anti-military propaganda and attacks on our troops offensive.
00:43:56.000So again, oh, Moore's a leftist, so it must all be lies.
00:43:59.000Well, Moore does say in Dude, Where's My Country that the U.N.
00:44:04.000So he tells the truth about 9-11, limits the amount of exposure, but tells the truth about a few issues, but then says, oh, see, America's bad, the E.U.
00:44:13.000And again, I said two years ago, Paul, that they were going to bring 9-11 out, but then say it was a right-wing group in America that did it, and then the globalists get to get the power of the police state out of it, while also blaming conservatives in America.
00:44:26.000Well, and from what I've read of the Moore film, he actually blames the attack, ultimately, not on even the Bush administration, but on Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, which are basically just the client terrorist alliance states for the globalists.
00:44:43.000So they're not implicitly responsible, they just, you know, ensure the safe passage of these terrorists that are controlled by the CIA.
00:44:50.000And so, I think his conclusion in the video, obviously I haven't seen it, but from what I've read the reviews, He blames it on these third world countries, basically.
00:45:00.000How did Saudi Arabia make Norad stand down or call Mayor Willie Brown and tell him not to flood New York the night before?
00:45:10.000Obviously that, you know, that they had the opportunity to hand over Bin Laden, as did several other countries, but the Bush administration rejected it time and again because they quashed probes to investigate these same individuals.
00:45:23.000Well, overall, people are going to see more film that's going to open their mind up to the facts when they see video of the Bin Ladens getting on the planes.
00:46:07.000Yeah, so people understand that whatever gets the most hits gets at the top, and we are routinely, most of the time, Paul, all kinds of searches we pop up on top.
00:46:18.000I wonder if Larry Silverstein's ever typed his own name into Google, because in the first ten results, it's about how he admits that he blew up WTC7.
00:46:37.000That's why they've got to move so quick, Paul.
00:46:39.000Because they know their system's falling apart.
00:46:41.000I want to get into US trucks carrying radioactive materials intercepted in Kuwait-Iraq border.
00:46:47.000More weapons of mass destruction attempts to plant.
00:46:50.000But first off, Capitol Hill Blue, anti-terror laws target Americans, not just terrorists.
00:46:55.000Federal and state prosecutors are applying stiff anti-terrorism laws adopted after 9-11 attacks to broad, run-of-the-mill probes of political corruption, financial crimes, and immigration frauds.
00:47:06.000And it's as if the government gets its way, even routine transactions of buying or selling American homes, already happening, could soon come under the scrutiny of money laundering provisions of the USA Patriot Act.
00:47:16.000Folks, type Patriot Act compliance in.
00:47:32.000The Treasury Department already has caught Financial transactions in casinos, storefront check cashing stores, auto dealers for scrutiny, wants to expand the Patriot Act coverage to home purchases as well.
00:47:46.000And then it goes into examples of Virginia, anti-terrorism statute, making death penalty offenses to be involved in more than... And it goes on into just everything you can imagine.
00:47:59.000Bar owners being charged with terrorism for not paying a fee.
00:48:03.000I mean, Paul, But then the neocons get on radio with their screened phone calls and go, look, no one disagrees with the Patriot Act and it's never been used against a citizen.
00:48:17.000Well, it's also been used, as you reported yesterday, that, you know, these artists that have got these biological agents which are involved in the artwork that they create, they're not dangerous to anybody.
00:48:29.000They're getting arrested now and this goes right back to November 2001, where the Washington Post reported, you know, the headline was, Bush Administration Creates Parallel Legal System, and it's parallel to the Constitution, it's parallel to the law.
00:48:46.000And the Washington Times said, Martial Law Activated, and it gave the provisions.
00:48:51.000And in this new bill, reported by Wired News, the Anti-Terrorism Intelligence Tools Improvement Act of 2003, It strengthens the clause whereby the FBI can demand any record from a business, and anyone that discloses that the FBI made the demand gets up to five years in prison.
00:49:12.000And it's basically a piecemeal version of the bill they tried to pass.
00:49:16.000Well, it's gag orders, and this is from Capitol Hill Blue.
00:49:20.000The FBI has used the Patriot Act provisions in a political corruption probe involving a Las Vegas girly bar.
00:49:28.000Oh, zoning is now... And the Justice Department reported to the House Judiciary Committee last year that it used a new law in probes of credit card fraud, theft from a bank account.
00:49:37.000I mean, it has nothing to do with it, Paul!
00:49:40.000Well, the new one is a piecemeal version of the one they tried to pass during the capture of Saddam.
00:49:46.000So they're getting it through in piecemeal because the initial bill was rejected.
00:49:51.000And, you know, with a legal system whereby now they're arresting eight-year-old girls for stealing bunny rabbits, then what do you expect?
00:49:59.000Four students have a limited food fight, and they arrest them and charge them with all these felonies.
00:50:06.000Yeah, students who wear a baseball cap backwards are getting arrested now.
00:50:12.000And so, the one out of Capitol Hill Blue, they took the article from Scripps Howard News Service, so it's not about partisanship.
00:50:20.000And, as you said, they're applying the Patriot Act to the routine sale of homes or any transaction over a certain amount of money which, you know, becomes subject to investigation.
00:50:31.000And it's the same process as the anti-racketeering laws which they brought in the 70s, which they're now routinely using against pro-life demonstrators who weren't processed abortion.
00:50:43.000And the left loves that, so now they can't have any rallies.
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00:54:33.000I really recommend anyone to read from the book of Exodus, chapter 20, verses 2 through 5, otherwise known as the first and second commandments.
00:54:44.000Okay, but we live in a pluralist society.
00:54:49.000Well, I recommend everyone get educated about standard operating procedures of aviation and also the laws of physics.
00:54:59.000Okay, how does Exodus tie into the laws of physics?
00:55:04.000Well, actually, Exodus, the first two commandments tie into what you were talking before your partner came on, and that is that the people are putting government in the place of the Lord.
00:55:27.000Or I should say government's making itself God and telling us that's normal.
00:55:30.000And then the laws of aviation, what about the impossibility of the official story in 9-11?
00:55:36.000Well, I'm an Air Force Reserve veteran myself, and I just know a little bit about aviation.
00:55:43.000I just happen to know that that was the only day that NORAD stood down.
00:55:49.000Yeah, if you're in Cessna, I've been in the Cessna with my dad.
00:55:53.000And he has to go around a storm, and he calls them and tells them that, but they still radio in, and if you don't respond, they'll launch fighters on you, and they'll be on you in ten minutes!
00:56:02.000But magically on this day, hours go by!
00:56:05.000Okay, but these are a lot of facts, too, and a lot of people don't want to let the facts get in the way of their emotions, so I can address that as well.
00:56:16.000Yeah, in my opinion, my savior Jesus Christ wants to appeal to my emotions, but a lot of people don't believe in that.
00:56:23.000They believe in their television, though, and I don't know, but I think a lot of people just need to turn their television off.
00:56:33.000Well, I had an interesting conversation with a liberal on the weekend talking about, you know, the emotion versus facts, and it was on abortion.
00:56:42.000And I said, you know, I know abortion's wrong, just as I know someone walking down the street trying to eat a hot dog through their nose is wrong.
00:56:49.000And they actually tried to argue with me that eating a hot dog through your nose was not necessarily wrong.
00:56:55.000So, these people have no moral compass, so you cannot debate them with facts, because they run on emotion.
00:57:02.000So, in many cases, it's impossible, and you just have to move on.
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01:01:27.000Dr. Nick Baggage, good to have you on with us, my friend.
01:01:44.000I did a lot of work here in Alaska over the years, the last 10 years, predominantly reporting on new technologies and weapon systems I've written.
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01:02:23.000And I have a doctorate in traditional and complementary medicine as well.
01:02:28.000Well, I mean, there's a lot to talk about, but I'm sure you want to get into this whole war, what the New World Order is up to, a lot of the weapons they're deploying.
01:02:35.000A few months ago, the Boston Globe and several other publications said, oh, the NSA is watching you, and DARPA doesn't want to just have brain scanners on the street corners.
01:02:48.000They want to have systems that actually control the mind.
01:02:55.000You know, I didn't see that particular one, but this is a theme that shows up pretty regularly in military and in government writings.
01:03:03.000You see the evolution of the technology, which we've tracked now for over ten years, The capability, the ability to influence not just emotional states, but direct interaction with the human brain has been a long sought after desire of not just military planners, but scientists around the world for various reasons.
01:03:27.000The idea of actually being able to literally interact with the brain in the same way you interact with your home computer, being able to manipulate outcomes and an activity dealing with the strongest, most powerful computer in the world, the human brain, that has been.
01:03:45.000And you know, in the research that goes into this started way back, really way back in the in the 40s and 50s, a lot of interest in being able to influence a behavior, particularly after the Korean War, where we had returning prisoners and the coin or the word brainwashing was coined.
01:04:04.000And from there, Lots of interest in this area, both theoretically for good, but when you start messing around with what happens with thoughts and the brains of individuals, you're talking about something that most have avoided and certainly most of us would agree is a domain that shouldn't be interfered with.
01:04:27.000We've got Paul Watson riding shotgun with us.
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01:04:32.000I want to get into the science of mind control, the different grades of it, just from propaganda down to electrical stimuli and control, torture, the Iraq situation, Dr. Nick Begich's predictions for the next year, and your calls.
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01:08:24.000Well, it's an alliance across the world in a kind of spiderweb way, where it's basically the head of it is the Anglo-Saxon Mafia, which is headed at the moment, in my opinion, by Skull & Bones, which is obviously, publicly, the American branch of the German Illuminati.
01:08:45.000And the Skull & Bones group has continued that program in America and in Britain today, mainly.
01:08:52.000And their goal is, as we know, world government, world army, world police state, world microchip population and world mind control and the basic elimination of any kind of common sense or moral code which humans naturally are supposed to, you know, exhibit.
01:09:10.000And that's why the attack on us is not just on a Not just on a political level, but on a moral level, via the media which they control.
01:09:21.000So, how we can fight it is basically rewiring people's brains, because as soon as people are exposed to just a kernel of truth, then that destroys a lifetime of lies, and you can gauge that by people who react to shock and horror that is put upon them by government-perpetrated events and their immediate reaction now is to immediately shift to the conspiratorial view of these events.
01:09:48.000So basically their brains are being rewired to react differently and that's the battle for the mind is the battle that we're engaged in currently.
01:10:00.000Yeah, you know, I think that's pretty well true.
01:10:03.000You know, the real ultimate test when you look at all of the writings in this area, the idea of Controlling individuals is really the ultimate answer, whether people look at us as consumers or taxpayers or something less than what we truly are, which is human beings.
01:10:21.000And, you know, human beings have a lot more dimension than simply the next person to purchase the widget that whoever's going to create is going to create.
01:10:31.000And I think a lot of what we've seen in the last couple of decades is this dehumanizing of individuals, the lack of Recognition of individual sovereignty and what that really means as the root of a democratic republic.
01:10:44.000And I think that's what's being attacked, is this idea that sovereign individuals still can make a huge difference, that we're created in the Creator's image to be able to make those differences.
01:10:56.000And taking that away from us is really what a lot of it's about.
01:11:00.000When you look at the idea of influencing human behavior, ultimately controlling the mind, is target and when you look back at even uh... some of the founders of uh... this movement this political movement of of one world government go back to the writings of big new brzezinski when he wrote between two ages you know back in the seventies which is pretty much a forecast for the future you know it was written uh... as a forecast if you read it today is where it's a history uh... and and what it talks about it one very important part
01:11:31.000Is the idea of technologies emerging that would be able to influence human behavior directly?
01:11:37.000By the time he became National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, some of that technology had already been created and has continued to advance since the 70s.
01:11:47.000Now you've got a situation where that technology exists today, it's spoken about openly in the literature, and the question, the only question is, Would political powers utilize that technology to further their political lands?
01:12:02.000Okay, I want to ask both of you, and Dr. Begich first, and Paul, what do you think, and it's obviously all interconnected, but what is the most important issue right now?
01:12:12.000I look at Newsweek, admitting what we already knew, secret police military all over Austin, intimidating conservatives, liberals, showing up at meetings, trying to grab cameras away from me, at public events, Uh, spying on people and the Pentagon says, yeah, there's a new bill, we're gonna be running your life, running Neighborhood Watch, total into posse comitatus, or is it the torture in Iraq and in many other countries by our government?
01:12:36.000Uh, is it, uh, you know, the Pan-American Union?
01:12:40.000I mean, there's all these things happening right now.
01:12:44.000Uh, there's the cancer viruses and the vaccines, there's the poison in the water, the chemtrailing.
01:12:49.000I mean, out of all these issues, Explore one for us, and then show us how it's interconnected into the driveshaft of this larger global mechanism, Doctor.
01:13:01.000Well, let's look at biometrics as a good example of that.
01:13:06.000This is the idea of taking unique measurements from an individual in order to determine identity.
01:13:12.000People think, well, if you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?
01:13:16.000The problem is what is hidden and what is legitimate to withhold from your government, from others around you.
01:13:25.000And those are decisions individuals make.
01:13:27.000I think the biggest threat right now is this fear that permeates the entire country in a way that takes away Our ability to self-govern by injecting us in a situation where we're almost near panic with a lot of folks.
01:13:44.000So it's the government-sponsored terror, the stimuli they give us, like the amoeba putting the heat source in the petri dish.
01:13:50.000We race away, and then they race us into their waiting jaws, basically.
01:13:55.000So I would agree, it's the government-sponsored terror.
01:13:58.000Through that fear, it causes a chilling effect, and then is the pretext for the total lockdown of society.
01:14:03.000Absolutely, and I think that's exactly what we've seen.
01:14:06.000In fact, it was predicted back in the late 80s, early 90s, in writings coming out of the U.S.
01:14:12.000Army War College, that exactly the situation we're in today is a situation that was expected And actually required in order to institute new technologies that in those days, not too many years ago, would be strongly resisted.
01:14:26.000Well, that's like PNAC, the president's top 25 think tank guys, including Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld and Wolowitz.
01:14:33.000They said in 2000, we need helpful Pearl Harbor events.
01:14:37.000Now, I don't think Pearl Harbor was helpful.
01:14:52.000Well, number one, what do you think the most important thing is?
01:14:54.000And then, on the PNAC, on the imperial mobilization, calling for the terror attacks, and we'll get Dr. Begich's comments on the imperial mobilization.
01:15:03.000Well, I think the major issue is maybe not terror attacks because, you know, that's just a means to an end, which is to create fear and subjugate humans to an authority of the government.
01:15:15.000So I think that's just can be classed as a tactic and not really a major movement because, you know, they will interchange those kind of tactics that do create fear.
01:15:24.000What I see as the main attack on is the moral attack, the removal of basic human values, the removal of faith, trust, community.
01:15:37.000You mean the systematic attack on the family unit and community?
01:15:42.000Are you talking about promoting torture?
01:15:46.000Yeah, because it subjugates the basic human impulse.
01:15:49.000It beats down that basic human aspiration for freedom and confidence in those around them.
01:15:56.000But on another level, it's via television propaganda and the creation of culture itself.
01:16:02.000Because that's where most people draw their identity from.
01:16:05.000It's culture and what the so-called idols of their generation are doing.
01:16:09.000I mean, take reality television, for example.
01:16:12.000In many countries in the world, including America, Australia and Britain, We've got the emergence of reality television and programs like this Big Brother program, which the method that they use, from my perspective, is that they create these idols in the form of reality television.
01:16:31.000And then the idol gets a microchip and everybody's got to get it because it's so cool.
01:16:36.000How do they use fads to control us, Dr. Begich?
01:16:38.000Well, again, you know, this is an opportunity for the herd mentality of getting people to sort of rush off into the same direction.
01:16:46.000You know, they did it with panic over various flus and flu season vaccines, if you remember, a couple years back.
01:16:54.000And really what the story there was was excess supply and not enough demand, you know.
01:16:59.000And they find out afterwards what everybody already knew, that the stuff didn't work.
01:17:04.000You know, ultimately, getting people to move in masses is not as difficult As one might think.
01:17:24.000Right, and you know, they're discussing a lot of techniques, things that were coming.
01:17:29.000Microcircuits, for instance, for implantation under the skin was openly spoken about in that document.
01:17:35.000And then the discussion about how how much americans would resist that at that particular time and now today after nine eleven you hear people openly talking about the idea of well maybe this isn't such a bad thing you know they're talking about using it for prisoners instead of ankle bracelets using it for elders that are losing mental faculties or children people are afraid are going to get kidnapped when you really look at threat and real threat i mean you're you've got bigger risk of going to the doctor and being uh... uh... subjected to a medical malpractice than you do
01:18:08.000Or getting in your car, or being struck by lightning.
01:18:11.000Right, and so here we are building these huge elaborate systems.
01:18:15.000I mean, think about how much money we're spending in this war effort.
01:18:18.000And those private infrastructures of the police state are then owned by the government officials.
01:18:23.000Yeah, and when you look at what happens at the end of the day, I mean, who's benefiting from this war in Iraq and Afghanistan?
01:18:30.000Ultimately, it's those that are supplying the hardware uh... to continue that effort when you think about two hundred billion dollars you know that would go an awful long way to solving whatever energy uh... problems we have that take us to the middle east in the first place but that is not in the interest of those that control the uh... industrial military complex the world today it's really in their interest to continue these kinds of conflicts in order to make sure that there's a ready market and supply as well as balance uh... and their own white papers say they want perpetual war
01:19:04.000But they know that 99.9% of people don't sit around reading white papers like we do!
01:19:10.000You know, the other part of it, when you look at, you know, this whole revolution in military affairs was about technology, but they added a dimension in about a year ago, they started referring to it as a revolution in military and political affairs, because ultimately it's the politics that's the target, and even the European Parliament calls these technologies weapons of political control.
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01:24:39.000I think, you know, that there is an acceleration of interest, but at the same time, I think there's an acceleration of activity to keep people Really enslaved to a system that is not working well.
01:24:52.000I mean, when you look at the political environment right now, we've got an election year, so there's a lot of happy talk.
01:24:58.000At the same time, there's a lot of disaster in the offing.
01:25:01.000My personal view is we're in for a lot tougher times before things turn around.
01:25:06.000Although, there's a segment of the population, maybe 10-12% is my estimation of people starting to really wake up to a lot of these issues.
01:25:16.000And that's enough to make significant change in this country, but at the same time I think we have a long way to go before the average person really recognizes what the real threats are.
01:25:26.000By the way, we're seeing a lot of inflationary developments across the board with key staple items like milk, cheese, not just fuel, but then they're telling us everything's wonderful, but all the real economic numbers show things are in deep trouble.
01:25:48.000As far as forecasts go, I see if they go ahead and try and introduce the draft on a widespread basis in spring of next year, which they have announced in many articles that have come out recently, and they're all bills in Congress, Then I see nothing more than people who are addicted and have been conditioned to be addicted to these lifestyles that they at that point on knowing that they will have to be included in this draft will openly you know engage in dissent and I see nothing less than
01:26:19.000Civil War breaking out in America, basically, and it won't be a civil war started or led by, you know, what we call the Patriot community.
01:26:27.000It will be on a widespread basis because people have been so conditioned to become addicted to their lifestyles that a direct removal of that will cause a mass uprising.
01:26:37.000That's why they've got garrisons of riot troops ready everywhere with provocateurs to go in and neutralize protests.
01:26:44.000You know, I think that when people really realize the full extent of the abuse that happens at the hands of government, there will be revolution.
01:26:52.000Hopefully it'll be the kind of revolution that, you know, is civil and sensible, not the kind that results in a lot more violence.
01:27:00.000I mean, if you look at Eastern Europe, you look at some of these places that have collapsed over the years, it happens by one of the most, the only threat the military planners can't plan for, which is called spontaneous revolution.
01:27:12.000It's when people Don't really wait around for leadership to emerge.
01:27:16.000They just finally get to the point one day where they go, hey, you know, what's happening isn't working and we want to change.
01:27:21.000And when you see that kind of spontaneous demand for change, and I don't think we're quite there yet, that's when All things get converted.
01:27:31.000But we see them preemptively gearing up for that.
01:27:34.000Their social planners, their computer programs, mapping all this, are definitely showing that.
01:27:40.000When you look at just the general unrest around the world, what do you do when you want to suppress folks?
01:27:46.000Well, you create enough fear so they go internal again, which has been working fairly effectively the last few years.
01:27:52.000But at this point, I think people are starting to see it.
01:27:55.000The big concern I have, for predictions for the future, is what happened in Spain just before their elections.
01:28:03.000That kind of a major event occurring in the United States, I think that is a fear that many of us have seen played out.
01:28:11.000The government is saying it's going to happen!
01:28:13.000Yeah, and given that, I think that, again, sort of a preparation of the public for more bad news that Pretty much understood to be that.
01:28:24.000I mean, anyone looking at these issues internationally to suggest that there isn't going to be another major event is the more far-fetched idea.
01:28:40.000And more importantly... Well, they've been telling us, Doctor, how to respond.
01:28:44.000When there's an attack, give up your liberty, submit to us.
01:28:47.000We've got to be getting the message out of who stands to gain from this, who's been behind the other terror attacks, preemptively preempting them.
01:28:56.000You know, when you look at what really happens in all of this, none of this is unanticipated.
01:29:00.000When you look at planning documents going way, way back into the eighties and nineties, The expectation of these kinds of events was there.
01:29:08.000More importantly, the planning about what would happen if, and the what-ifs have been played out perfectly in the last couple years as civil liberties have disappeared and a tyranny has emerged coming from our government.
01:29:21.000An opaque government we can't even see into anymore.
01:29:24.000We'll come back, get into some more issues.
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01:33:26.000We have a website at earthpulse.com and essentially we have a number of things posted there.
01:33:36.000For those that are interested in the harp story, there's quite a few articles on that story.
01:33:41.000There's a number of essays that were written.
01:33:45.000Really to motivate people for change, to give people ideas and thoughts about what we might be able to do to start to turn some of this around.
01:33:54.000That's under a button called Empowerment on the front page of that website.
01:34:04.000A lot of it is very well footnoted, which is one of our hallmarks.
01:34:07.000When we talk about this stuff, we actually lay out a foundation on which it's built and That kind of background, I think, is really useful.
01:34:16.000We have a number of books I've written.
01:34:19.000Angels Don't Play This Harp, which is co-authored with Gene Manning.
01:34:24.000But the most important work we've produced in the last two years are the two Earth Rising books, Earth Rising, The Revolution, Earth Rising II, which are really about new technologies and their impact on society and our culture.
01:34:37.000And I think those are the books that are the most fundamental.
01:34:42.000Our reference there, and they can be obtained either through the website or through one of our toll-free numbers, which if it's alright, I can give that out.
01:35:09.000Okay, we're going to go to some calls here in a few minutes, but I do want to get some into heart what it is for folks that don't know.
01:35:15.000I just read an article a few months ago where the government boosted the power at the Array.
01:35:21.000Also, Chemtrails, get your take on that.
01:35:24.000But before we go to these calls, Paul Watson, there's a lot of key news here I want to go through with both of you guys, but any other key news items you think folks need to know about today?
01:35:34.000Well, apart from those, Vote fraud in the UK because it's an example for the US.
01:35:39.000We've got examples of mass vote rigging going on in this European election which has just taken place.
01:35:48.000And it boils down to the same thing in both countries, the elimination of the paper ballots, and so we can go through that.
01:35:55.000Yeah, we have the CIA, former directors, deputy directors, NSA generals, running the top three voting companies.
01:36:03.000They've been caught coast-to-coast engaging in fraud.
01:36:05.000Their own engineers have quit, said it's a fraud.
01:36:07.000It makes it into one newspaper, then they, you know, die in car wrecks mysteriously.
01:36:12.000I mean, all this stuff is going on, and then by the time it gets in my local paper, it's, oh, there's a few problems, people are concerned.
01:36:18.000Dr. Begich, any comments on the electronic vote fraud?
01:36:22.000You know, my family has a history in politics.
01:36:24.000My dad was in the State Senate here and was a member of the United States Congress.
01:36:28.000My brother is nine years on the Anchorage Assembly and is mayor of the largest city in Alaska, Anchorage, with half the state's population.
01:36:37.000You know, this year I'm a candidate for office locally, and I can tell you elections are won by very close margins here.
01:36:43.000My brother won his by 18 votes, which is how many family members voted that day.
01:36:48.000And we had paper ballots to back it up when the recounts happened.
01:36:52.000When you go to a paperless system, these situations will flip the other direction.
01:36:56.000And anyone who believes that these systems cannot be hacked Are naive.
01:37:02.000I mean, we have the employees who are convicted computer felons accessing them in the middle of major elections, engineers quitting, saying it's a fraud.
01:37:11.000I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's... We have politicians like Senator Hagel owning the company that people vote for him on, and then the League of Women Voters is arguing against any record.
01:37:24.000Yeah, and it's, you know, those are the inside threats.
01:37:26.000When you consider outside threats, the amount of money spent by China to just figure out how to hack our system is huge.
01:37:33.000Anytime that you put a system online that has the ability of determining political outcomes in the West and in the United States, both for the internal and the external threats to our personal freedom and liberty, this is a major mistake.
01:37:46.000There are some things that do not belong automated, and voting is one of them.
01:37:50.000But again, this wasn't done by accident.
01:37:53.000And I think this is why we're seeing so much arrogance by these people.
01:37:57.000And now they've rephrased us as a democracy, not a republic.
01:38:00.000And a democracy of 51% say, kill all the black people, kill all the white people, or take that guy's land, it happens.
01:38:06.000In our republic, the minority is protected.
01:38:09.000So now they say we're a democracy, and oh look, you voted for slavery!
01:38:12.000Yeah, you know this, and when you really look at all of it, you know, what's really happened is the erosion of American values, which is again the root that we were speaking about earlier, is the root of this is really the moral questions, the things that make us who we are.
01:38:26.000You start stripping that away from Americans and recognizing the root of who we are has to do with the Democratic Republic that has a much different concept than a pure democracy.
01:38:37.000When you look back on that republic and its formation, 6% of the people in this country favored That major change when it first started back 200 years ago, you know that that was a far cry from a majority of
01:38:50.000There certainly was an enlightened minority.
01:39:16.000And this is the games that are played to manipulate political outcomes.
01:39:20.000And again, when you look at the European take on this, which we've looked at pretty thoroughly, we spent a lot of time in Europe, their view of the world is these are all technologies that result in one thing.
01:39:31.000From their perspective, political control, the manipulation of individuals to receive and enforce and foster political outcomes.
01:39:40.000When you see that shift, which is a shift that's well underway, if not already installed, That's where the danger lies.
01:39:46.000Well, also we see the EU, the Pan American Union, all these WTO, all these bodies are dictatorial in nature, and it's like the new Iraqi appointed government.
01:39:57.000They call it democracy, it's an appointed government.
01:40:49.000I don't know whether you agree with it, but That people will, you know, in a cowardly fashion, accept torture of Iraqis and bombing broken back third world countries, you know, indefinitely.
01:41:02.000They won't become aware of it, they won't, the innate human instinct to fight will not kick in.
01:41:07.000Until, you know, the war comes to our shores and when they have to go to the level which is an open declaration of war on the American people because generally people are cowardly and they'll just try to ignore something if it's not, you know, happening in their immediate vicinity.
01:42:03.000Yeah, and that's exactly, exactly what we hear constantly from folks that aren't doing it from a history book or doing it from living experience.
01:42:12.000They've been there, they've done that, they've experienced it.
01:42:16.000We may think that we're immune from it in this country, but the creep And that direction is one that's happened a little bit slower, and the frogs are boiling.
01:42:38.000I don't know if you ever mentioned that, but I believe that that was made to discredit your film, Road to Tyranny.
01:42:45.000And I have a question for Mr. Biggage.
01:42:48.000Have you ever heard the word weatherman in reference to mind control or population control?
01:42:54.000I have not heard that, no, not in connection with that.
01:42:58.000Okay, and Paul Watson had brought up abortion and I feel that this right now what's going on is occultic and what they need right now is blood sacrifices so the abortion is their, I don't know what you would call it, their Their major... Their religious sacrament!
01:43:18.000Right, and because there were children in the Murray Building and Waco, and it would be interesting to find out if there was a daycare center in any one of those WTC buildings.
01:43:43.000Well, now we know that there are actually more abortions of disabled children with, you know, symptoms that can be medically fixed than live births.
01:43:53.000So when it comes to that extent, then you know that we've got a big problem.
01:43:56.000What is it, 50 million abortions since the 70s?
01:44:01.000And people, I mean, people will accept it in the same way that the neocons will justify torturing Iraqis because they're subhumans and the left will speak out against that all day, rightly so, but then Again, they'll pick on the most defenseless creature imaginable, a fetus, and say that it's okay to support these disgusting procedures to terminate it.
01:44:24.000I mean sucking the brains out of babies, they actually go in there with
01:44:29.000instruments and cut the limbs from piece to piece.
01:44:32.000And you know most people don't know the procedure itself, they just think that
01:44:35.000the baby is put to sleep like a dog would be.
01:44:39.000Also there's a movement here in the United States to ban the new ultrasound.
01:44:45.000They admit it's not bad for them, but they say, well, it's non-medical so you can't do it, where it shows the 3D image.
01:44:49.000They don't want you to see, but go into the occult thing that she mentioned.
01:44:53.000Whether you believe in God or not, folks, and I do, the elite Do believe in the devil.
01:45:46.000That's the root of where people are intellectually, spiritually, emotionally, and how that projects into their creation or reality.
01:45:55.000And either they create in conformity with the Creator or in opposition to it.
01:45:59.000When you're talking about some of the things that we're speaking about today, I mean this idea of manipulating the mind, you know, Mind Control, if you will, was a cover story in the magazine The Economist in the end of May 2002.
01:46:15.000And when you look at that whole idea, that's the interference with free will.
01:46:19.000That's something that even God won't do in most traditions.
01:46:22.000And here we are, a man not only anticipating it, but excited about the possibilities of controlling people's interior thoughts and ideas in a way that has never been contemplated It's never been even considered by God himself.
01:46:50.000And if we have a global elite that know that depleting uranium kills our own troops, and know that it makes them sick, and then bivouac them in Saddam bases that were bombarded with it, knowing they've got, many of them, two rims of radiation, I mean, again, what religion would you have to have to not have morals and to frankly take glee and enjoyment in even killing and maiming your own troops?
01:47:14.000I mean, morally, I feel guilty if I'm rude to my wife or rude to a neighbor or do something backhanded and then I always go back and say I'm sorry or don't do it again.
01:47:23.000You know, as I grow in the hierarchy of needs, I become more moral and realize how immoral I truly am.
01:47:28.000Whereas these people plunge in the other direction of the paradigm, in the dark side, getting more and more immoral, and they have to enjoy the immoralness, or they couldn't live with it.
01:47:38.000Do you see what I'm saying, Paul and Doctor?
01:47:46.000Which is why, through the media and through entertainment shows, which are, you know, ostensibly watched by more people than news, they create these cultural stereotypes which are, in essence, abnormal.
01:47:58.000And so that then puts the people who watch them with the simple mind control of television, where it shifts into the right brain thinking, you know.
01:48:06.000no critical analysis, immediate emotional contact, where then they have to ape these abnormal stereotypes under peer
01:48:25.000And you know, the idea that Americans are the victims of a lot of different technologies, you know, something that largely is ignored.
01:48:33.000But when you think about even the public pronouncement by our own government, about people that have been victimized, and these are the most obscene types of victimizations.
01:48:42.000You know, when you look at Secretary of Energy O'Leary, when she was in the Clinton administration, admitting a half million Americans over 40 years, Objected to human experimentation and if that isn't torture, I don't know what is.
01:48:54.000But this is a half a million that they admitted were dealt with in a way that we hung people at Nuremberg after World War II for the exact same kind of infractions.
01:49:03.000And you know that in the United States, in this country, Where half a million of our own citizens have been victimized in this manner.
01:49:10.000Not one single solitary soul has ever been held accountable in front of a jury.
01:49:15.000Yeah, they come out, they come out and announce it now, and really that sets the precedent and normalizes it.
01:49:40.000We give it a new name, we call it a campaign contribution, and it gives you the same thing as a bribe used to get, only now everybody feels really good about it.
01:49:48.000It's a contribution, it's not a bribe.
01:49:49.000Well, what the difference is, is what matters.
01:50:22.000He's a busy professor and everything else.
01:50:23.000We'll see if we can keep a little bit of the next hour to get into HAARP and his book on that and also the chemtrails and the rest of it and keep Paul Watson with us.
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01:54:44.000They wouldn't listen and then when the serpent gobbled the sun, they would all prostrate themselves and beg.
01:54:50.000Well, the example of that today is the government carrying out 9-11.
01:54:54.000The terrorists are going to strike, the serpent's going to eat the moon, the sun tomorrow, better do what we say.
01:54:58.000You know, before 9-11 they said, submit to us, the terrorists coming, they're going to get you, bin Laden's going to get you, and then boom, it happened.
01:55:05.000But again, I'm trying to use a historical kind of anthropological example here of all of this.
01:55:11.000We have to get conscious of that and then see the propaganda and that short-circuits it.
01:55:16.000And this can actually happen quite quickly if someone is willing to open their mind up and examine what we're saying.
01:55:21.000We're about to go back to Dr. Nick Begich and Logan and Bernard and Ben and everybody else that's holding and Paul Watson.
01:55:26.000Dr. Begich and Paul have agreed to stay for the whole next hour.
01:55:53.000I mean, that's the drive in my life is to expose these people and thus protect myself and my family.
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01:56:42.000Yes, I was going to talk about illegal immigration and Paul Watson mentioned that I think a possible civil war in the future and I believe the globalists really do Plan ahead, and plan ahead really, really far ahead, like 50 years, even 100 years.
01:56:56.000Yeah, I think the ultra-massive influx of all these different groups, and then the government trying to get them not to assimilate, things will be fine if they just assimilate.
01:57:07.000That is used to just simply balkanize further, to cause more hysteria when it does... Go ahead, Paul.
01:57:16.000It's about splitting, you know, splitting the community so people do not support each other when the hatchet does fall.
01:57:22.000That's the agenda of illegal immigration, to balkanize the community.
01:57:27.000Finish up what you were saying, Logan.
01:57:30.000I think his cell phone was cutting out there.
01:57:36.000You know, I think, again, whenever you start fractionalizing populations, creating the villains that are really created by our own system, you really are deflecting people's attention to the real roots of the problems and to the symptoms of the problems.
01:57:52.000And I think that's, again, a case of watering down what's going on in the United States right now Uh, with bad public policy that gets us fighting over issues that certainly are important, but while the bank is being robbed by both parties.
01:58:08.000I think this immigration issue is one of those that, you know, for those that are in the border states, it's horrendous what's happening down there, what you guys are experiencing.
01:58:17.000And yet very little is done to keep those borders secure.
02:00:44.000I want to suggest to you that Fox is using subliminal messaging because people that I know that would never agree My whole life are now saying the same things, and they watch Fox.
02:00:54.000Well, sir, when I went to, you know, college here in Austin and just took radio, television, film, they admitted subliminals in the fifties, you know, on radio and TV.
02:01:04.000Billboards have it, it's public, they've caught a lot of them doing it with really, really horrible stuff.
02:01:09.000You know, Toyota commercials in Europe about Satanism and blood drinking, that was in the Times of London four years ago.
02:01:15.000And there is a lot of, you know, that text rolling in the bottom, your mind sees that, but consciously you don't.
02:01:29.000You know, what you're saying about the scrolling lines underneath, you do absorb all of that.
02:01:34.000In fact, if you were subjected to hypnosis, you would actually recall every word in the proper order of every one of those words, because they do imprint.
02:01:43.000The other thing that's important that people don't consider is the flicker rate of the light.
02:01:48.000The actual light emanations from a television.
02:01:51.000If the flicker rate is adjusted just so, you create a super-suggestivity on part of the viewers.
02:01:57.000In other words, it's not even with subliminals.
02:01:59.000There aren't necessarily words or anything.
02:02:01.000Just the news broadcasts that are coming across.
02:02:04.000And what they've learned is that external oscillating fields, including flickering light, when it's in a very precise, what's called a window frequency, It overrides brain activity, and the brain then locks onto this external signal, begins to mirror it, and makes for very different conditions within the brain.
02:02:24.000Well, it puts you down into a dream state.
02:02:25.000And one of my friends is a top guy at UT's psychology department, and I've been allowed into the unclassified areas.
02:02:43.000Well, yeah, it goes back to the experiments of Herbert Krugman, I believe it was, where He found that when a person actually watches television, brain activity switches from the left to the right hemisphere of the brain.
02:02:58.000Of course, the left hemisphere is the seat of logical thought, but when the television comes through, it impacts the right side of the brain, which is uncritical.
02:03:09.000And again, how do you hypnotize somebody with a flashing light or a swinging bobble?
02:03:17.000In fact, you can use any number of methods.
02:03:20.000There was, in terms of strobing lights or flashing lights, that goes back even the mid-60s with the device used, putting American servicemen in Vietnam into trance-like states.
02:03:31.000It was called the LIDA machine, developed by the Soviets, and it was essentially a flickering light and some oscillating magnetic fields.
02:03:39.000And when you look at That technology of the 60s laid across the technology framework of 2004, you have a much more powerful delivery system.
02:03:50.000Most people involved in light and sound related research understand this and understand its implications.
02:03:57.000Even in terms of enhancing human performance, the same technologies can be used for developing, for instance, solutions for attention deficit disordered kids, kids having trouble focusing attention.
02:04:09.000But it's not the appropriate uses that are usually discussed, it's the misuses of these technologies.
02:04:15.000How to degrade the human brain, how to destroy the human brain.
02:04:18.000Well, anyway, I want to make one more point.
02:04:21.000I had a friend that I met said that he had a friend that was put in prison for 25 years for illegal attempt of re-entry in this country, and he's white.
02:04:29.000That's a true story, and I told the guy to write you a letter, maybe you could help him.
02:04:34.000But that's the ridiculousness of all this.
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02:08:20.000I will not watch Fox and CNN and the rest of them.
02:08:23.000Because when you're conscious of the brainwashing, it does nothing but make you angry.
02:08:28.000And my life has gotten so much better, my mind works so much better, not watching television.
02:08:33.000I suggest you put it on a cart, put it in the closet, occasionally let your children watch, you know, videos, uh, you know, children's videos, uh, as, as a treat or something, but, I mean, not let them sit there for four and a half hours a day, that's the national average.
02:08:50.000Savings, World Government, secret police in black ski masks everywhere, I mean, the, you know, your secret police, your spies, This is all coming down the pike.
02:09:04.000We'll talk to Dr. Nick Baggage and Paul Watson here in a moment and get to Ben and Chris and Michael and John and many others that are holding them in.
02:09:13.000We're going to get into HAARP and the chemtrails and the rest of it.
02:09:15.000Dr. Baggage is a real expert on this subject and Paul Watson has done a lot of research as well.
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02:13:16.000You know, that's a huge issue, and the answer is no.
02:13:20.000In fact, filtering your water, pulling out the toxins that are there.
02:13:24.000I mean, in Alaska, we're fortunate to be blessed with really excellent and abundant water supplies, but that is not the case for most of the country.
02:13:33.000Whatever you do to get the heavy metals out of the water and other materials out of the water, I think is beneficial.
02:13:39.000Both the chlorine and the fluoride can be filtered out pretty readily and something to pay attention to.
02:14:45.000Just like in 1984, Big Brother admits through their puppet, Goldstein, the things that Big Brother's doing, psychologically in a way, getting us to accept it.
02:14:57.000This happens very, very frequently where film and fiction is used as a method for sort of really conditioning the public to accept things it normally wouldn't be.
02:15:07.000If you follow Major trends, cultural trends, you'll see them show up in the mainstream media, usually through popular television first, and then, you know, basically erode basic values and have them replaced with new values and new ideas.
02:15:24.000And today, when you combine not just the standard methods of propaganda, which is just indoctrination through overloads of information, now you have a technology That conditions the brain to more readily accept this.
02:15:37.000You know, when we talked about mind control and earth rising the revolution, over a hundred source documents are cited.
02:15:46.000patents are noted showing the evolution of this technology.
02:15:50.000This is not something that has just all of a sudden popped out of the marketplace.
02:15:55.000This is something that has been actively pursued for now almost 50 years.
02:16:01.000Resulting in a tremendous advance in this type of technology.
02:16:05.000Well, Paul, a month ago they came out and admitted that the Republicans and Democrats are having people come in to be brain scammed while they watch their political ads.
02:16:12.000I mean, it's gotten down to that point.
02:16:23.000is again by this right brain hemisphere emotional unthinking filtered process and the example is euthanasia which is basically the modern branch of Hitler's eugenics program where they take one case of you know a woman who has an illness who is in severe pain she wants to die and then they feed that through the television people have an emotional response to it and then say you know legalize euthanasia these people are in pain they deserve the right to take their own lives so they use one case By that emotional manipulation to justify the overall government agenda of reintroducing this eugenics program.
02:17:01.000And then Wesley Smith of the Wall Street Journal lists hundreds of names and multiple articles of people begging for food and water being killed by the government and the average person has no idea this is even going on.
02:17:10.000You know, this is again an example of how Ideas work their way into culture and become acceptable.
02:17:20.000You know, the idea of euthanasia as a concept even being openly discussed by people back 20 years ago, there was the legitimate feelings of aversion to that kind of thing.
02:17:34.000You know, death is not something that human beings are meant to Spend their lives asphyxiating on it.
02:17:41.000Life that we're supposed to be engaged in.
02:17:43.000And here we are again trying to rationalize suicide, which again in most traditions is something severely, strongly spoken against.
02:17:52.000And I think here again we're talking about these basic moral questions.
02:17:57.000And they admit that these drugs are giving the children increased suicide.
02:19:16.000Yeah, it's the same mindset that is conditioning, and it's preconditioning to get people willing and ready to accept Jack Brownring for Midas Resources.
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02:23:55.000Talking to Paul Joseph Watson, Nick Baggage, Paul, I know you've been chomping on the bit to get in here.
02:24:01.000Any comments or insights on the things we've been talking about before we go back to these calls?
02:24:05.000Yeah, just one more thing with the television propaganda.
02:24:08.000There was also an experiment in Germany several years ago where they took three families and each were offered Thousands of dollars if they successfully avoided watching television for a period of a month and this was all monitored and none of them were successful and that's because the bottom line is that television is addictive again because of this right brain hemisphere activity which produces the endorphins which make it addictive so that's why... But I can't stand watching it now!
02:24:38.000Dr. Buggage, I mean how do people get away from this?
02:24:40.000Well, you know, again, it's the case of conditioning.
02:24:44.000You've got to recognize what's behind a lot of this.
02:24:47.000The idea that brain activity is stimulated in a way that makes it addictive, I think is, again, one of those reasons where people really have to look at what they're viewing, consider how they're taking information in, and make sure they're doing it in a way that gets them information rather than manipulation.
02:25:07.000And I think this is, again, where Technology has moved so fast, so rapidly, that the ability to keep up, to be able to screen this stuff out, I mean, it would be very easy to screen out this kind of manipulation by justifying what is known by military planners and others.
02:25:25.000And that's not being done, nor should anyone expect it, because the outcome is to manipulate the public, not to give us the freedoms that individuals are entitled to.
02:25:34.000And I think that's really what it's about.
02:25:36.000It's more about control Um, on this backdrop of fear and the ideas is that it's easier to control people that are afraid than it's able to control people that are self-assured, strong individuals, the kind of individuals that all of us
02:25:58.000Yeah, I... Real quick, Chris, and then we're going to finish up.
02:26:01.000My mindset is that you don't suspect everything.
02:26:04.000Anyway, going back to this Juul thing, I have a book, but Juul is owned by Albertsons, and Albertsons is connected to the Illuminati families.
02:26:15.000Many of their board members and so on.
02:26:18.000It's like a spiderweb at the center of everything.
02:26:20.000They've got to control from A to Z. You've got to be on your toes.
02:26:25.000And like you were saying about making it a mindset, now Nancy Reagan is, you know, all the stuff that they did, she's kissing the coffin, and now she's calling for stem cell research.
02:26:41.000Michael in Hawaii, go ahead, you're on the air.
02:26:43.000Yes, I've got a question for Nick Begich, Dr. Begich.
02:26:47.000Always good to hear you on talk shows.
02:26:50.000I'm just curious, doesn't it seem like everything is accelerating, you know, in this new world order, this condition?
02:26:56.000It just seems like it's accelerating, and do you feel that 2004 is going to be a very pivotal year?
02:27:01.000You know, I think it is accelerating, mainly because the technology's advanced now to where it can, and secondly, its fear runs two directions.
02:27:09.000You know, those that have power want to keep it, and I think that's a lot of it, is it tends to push people forward, and there is a backlash brewing, I think.
02:27:19.000Yeah, and that backlash, you know, it's what often happens.
02:27:24.000Once Americans wake up, we are an unstoppable force.
02:27:27.000I don't care what history has shown us, that's one message that we all understand.
02:27:32.000The people at the top understand it also, and ultimately that's the challenge for all of us, is to not succumb to fear, but wake each other up with good information, apply that information in a meaningful way, and don't let these guys get away with it.
02:27:45.000You know, the first step in change is getting people informed, and I think that's where This show, and shows like it, have given an opportunity in a forum to get alternative ideas and issues out there to make people think again.
02:28:02.000Every year is an important year, because every year that we take the right actions, it's actions in the right direction to counteract what... Yeah, there's no doubt that their program is behind schedule.
02:28:12.000Well, yeah, I think it'd be on schedule by at least, you know, four or five years.
02:28:16.000And one of the reasons for that is that Basically, they fail to take into account their own human inadequacies, because there's definite infighting within the elite on how exactly to carry out the agenda, whether on one side it be the piecemeal slow progression towards it, or on the other side, the basic bombardment and terror of the human mind, which will accelerate the program via the subjugation of people under fear.
02:28:41.000So there is infighting as to which methods to take, in my view.
02:28:45.000Yeah, there's the ivory tower arrogance of the elite.
02:28:49.000I'm just curious, with all the information that Dr. Begich has been privy to, can he tell us, share with us anything that he feels like is going to have a foreseeable future here in 2004 that could possibly happen?
02:29:05.000Well, I think we were talking last hour about another major terrorist event.
02:29:10.000I think that's in the cards for this year.
02:29:14.000Unfortunately, I think that's going to be used, again, to instill fear and try and maintain an existing administration that is taking our resources and handing them off in the biggest transfer of American wealth since the railroad there.
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02:33:09.000We're not your property, and you'd better be afraid, because you're going down.
02:33:12.000There'll always be new evils to fight, my friend, but we're in the middle of a very, very decadent cycle right now.
02:33:19.000Just one more call, because I've got a bunch of other news I want to go over with our two guests.
02:33:23.000And this is fitting to be one of the last calls we'll go to, or the last.
02:34:51.000You know, absolutely right, and I think that's again, you know, the idea of morals and values being fundamental, I don't care where your politics are in the country, those fundamental things have to be in place in order for the kind of government That our founding fathers envisioned can be realized.
02:35:10.000And we spent 200 years unraveling that vision, and it's time for Americans to recognize where that vision was centered and get it back.
02:35:19.000And that's on a platform of respect and responsibility and accountability, starting with us individually, and then certainly reflected in our governments, which is far and wide from where we are.
02:35:29.000May I give you one more thing before I hang up?
02:35:39.000i've that simplification of my life is as uh... centered on on pleasing god
02:35:45.000and automatically anybody worth pleasing is pleased and the rest of them are cannon fodder
02:35:55.000alright appreciate the call paul watson comments when he was saying
02:35:59.000Yeah, he's basically pointing out that there was a scientific move to forcefully eradicate the innate human righteousness and then replace it with a modified program which is basically idol worship and the subjugation to peer pressure via the creation of cultural stereotypes which are completely anti-faith.
02:36:21.000Well, I mean, it's common sense stuff in the Ten Commandments.
02:37:05.000We worship all this stuff that means nothing, and the globalists just dangle it in front of our faces, and we'll sell out our grandmother for power!
02:37:13.000Uh, and people are amazed, you know, that years ago I got offered millions of dollars to go work for, you know, one of the big establishment radio networks and said, no, you know, they were stunned.
02:37:20.000Nobody turns down millions of dollars.
02:37:34.000You know, this is again, the decisions that we each make are going to decide what happens in the next, you know, the caller before, you know, so what's important for 204?
02:37:43.000What's important is that we wake up to what is happening and we begin to act responsibly to try and turn the tide.
02:37:50.000And that's the challenge, I think, for everyone that listens to these broadcasts, that listens to what is being said and looks for that alternative.
02:38:04.000Apathy is easier to deal with if you think about 20% of the people making decisions voting That means you've got to convince 10% that you're right.
02:38:13.000Well, Doctor, people look at others' apathy and say, well, then I'm going to be apathetic because they don't care.
02:38:20.000If a hundred of your neighbors are standing there while the house is burning and people are stuck inside and you've got a chance to save them, if you sit there and let them die, you're going to have just as many nightmares as your other hundred neighbors.
02:38:33.000That's right, and I think that's again where you act on what you know to be right and true and act in a responsible way and recognize that you're not alone in that.
02:38:40.000There's millions of other people that think the same way.
02:38:43.000The globalists are masters in making us feel like we're alone, we're by ourselves, and I'm in the position, Paul's in the position, Nick's in the position, Dr. Baggage is, to where we talk to the crowds, we see the people, we walk down the street, we're known around the country.
02:38:58.000And listen, I go into a grocery store sometimes, and half the people stop me and agree with me.
02:39:04.000You know, I went to the pool yesterday, and half the people that were there came up and talked to me.
02:39:08.000I mean, I've done 1,600 plus radio interviews in the last two and a half plus years, and almost no one calls in on liberal and conservative shows to disagree with me while I'm saying the government carried out 9-11!
02:39:21.000I'm telling you, their poll numbers, what they say is an illusion!
02:39:27.000You know, this whole idea of manipulation of media and to get us to kind of believe what the masses are supposed to believe is a big part of it.
02:39:37.000I mean, look around at just the way media flows into us and you really got to look, again, at the underlying problems.
02:39:45.000If we spent $200 billion on solving The energy question for the United States, would we have a solution?
02:39:52.000I would bet that there's not a single listener that would suggest that we wouldn't.
02:39:55.000Well, they already have engines that get 80 miles to the gallon, but again, they won't let us have them.
02:40:02.000I mean, they're already solutions that cut the problem in half.
02:40:06.000And the complex that we've been in, the complex we're in now, are based on really resources and energy.
02:40:13.000And again, This is where our resources as tax-paying human beings are being undermined by those resources not solving the real problems, but merely being thrown at ways to send that money for the military-industrial-academic complex as opposed to
02:40:31.000Solving the real problems that improve life for the average human being.
02:40:59.000But on another level, the sheep mentality which they've created is not just that, it's to the point where the sheep have to police the other sheep.
02:41:06.000To the point where I, as a 22 year old man, am expected to be out every night trying to sleep with women.
02:41:14.000It's because these people, this is their cultural norm, this is what they're expected to do by peer pressure.
02:41:20.000So we have to get past that and realise that the moral course is the true course and that it will infinitely lead to many more rewards.
02:41:29.000All right, I want to get into HAARP and chemtrails and the rest of it.
02:41:33.000I mean, clearly, all the experts I talked to agree that they are spraying stuff in the atmosphere.
02:41:40.000They are spraying different chemicals and biologicals.
02:41:42.000I mean, there's been thousands of tests admitted.
02:41:46.000The atmosphere, Goddard Space Center admits the Earth is 20% darker.
02:41:50.000Satellite photos show almost the whole world blacked out by these little trails.
02:41:54.000These weren't here six, seven years ago.
02:41:56.000Dr. Baggage, what's going on with the chemtrails?
02:41:58.000You know, that goes back to actually a story that broke in the early 80s, but it was theoretical then when they were making observations of air traffic increases above Dallas-Fort Worth Airport.
02:42:10.000And what they had noticed is that the contrails coming off of these planes We're actually adding to the formation of cumulus clouds, increasing the severity of storms in the southeastern United States.
02:42:23.000When they proved that this theory was more than a theory was when 9-11 occurred and all air traffic stopped in the United States and they could then quantify what their theoretical... Remember how clear and blue the sky's got?
02:42:35.000Oh yeah, because what is true is that just the normal traffic is laying down this darkening of the planet in a way that traps Heat that causes other heat exchanges to occur.
02:42:48.000When you look at that issue and then you lay on top of it now experimentally... Well, they admit it!
02:42:53.000That causes more global warming than the cars!
02:42:56.000In fact, if you take it a step further and you look at satellite launches over the last 50 years in terms of when that technology began, you know it does more for creating ozone depletion than all the aerosol cans ever discharged on the planet.
02:43:12.000And all the Freon that ever existed in a refrigerator, they were God's only knowledge of how it can rise when it's heavier than air.
02:43:19.000But the fact of the matter is, these things have been around for a long time.
02:43:24.000They're contributing, but are they the only problem?
02:43:37.000Is that part of an agenda of Of change and destruction?
02:43:41.000Well, we have the Pentagon document about owning the weather in 2025.
02:43:45.000Absolutely, and then you look at some of the other ideas that the last three Secretaries of Defense have all spoken about, taking and abandoning a treaty that was signed in the mid-70s on environmental modification.
02:43:58.000All three last Secretaries of Defense want that treaty out because now the technology is so good, is so well designed, That controlling the battle environment becomes very tempting without much consideration to the downstream effects, which are huge.
02:44:16.000Well, HAARP, you know, as a system, was designed to do a lot of different things.
02:44:19.000One of the, what the military calls a side effect, and many others consider a deliberate effect.
02:44:24.000I'll tell you what, first off, tell people what HAARP is.
02:44:26.000Sure, it's the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, and it's a large radio transmitter, actually a field of transmitters Right now the project is controlled by DARPA, previously by the Air Force and Navy.
02:44:39.000And they just upped the power, didn't they?
02:44:42.000Yep, this year they're doubling the power, next year they're doubling that again, quadrupling the power.
02:44:46.000They're about four years behind where they plan to be in terms of doing that.
02:44:51.000Now what they can do with this, in just one mode of operation, they can literally heat an area above the Earth's surface that starts about 30 miles up.
02:45:00.000They can heat this area called the ionosphere and shove A column of space going out into space.
02:45:08.000Picture it as a tube on a roll of paper towels moving out into space.
02:45:13.000There's no telling what this could do!
02:45:15.000Absolutely, but when you look at what they admit to, that changes local pressure systems, weather systems underneath can divert jet streams, causing tremendous changes in weather.
02:45:26.000In fact, down in your part of the world, there was this jet stream change that moved Weather out of East Texas and Louisiana a number of years ago, all the way into Central Florida where a couple of tornadoes got deposited where they weren't supposed to be.
02:45:41.000And this was from a very slight change in the jet stream flow, coincidentally right above the HAARP facility.
02:45:48.000These are the equivalent of giant Amazon rivers that they can direct as weapons.
02:45:53.000And when you look at directing the natural flows on the planet and being able to turn Energy that is tremendous.
02:46:00.000I mean, the Earth itself produces tremendous energy potentials, but being able to turn those into a destructive force, that is what much of this new technology is about.
02:46:10.000Well, Dr. Begich and Paul, let me ask both of you this.
02:46:12.000You know, the globals will put cancer viruses and vaccines 250 times safe levels of mercury in some of the new vaccines.
02:46:19.000You know, admittedly, we have that on the website right now.
02:46:22.000Last week I was saying 215, it's 250, excuse me.
02:46:25.000You know, letting the troops die to please uranium.
02:46:27.000I mean, they practice this evil, they don't care, they manipulate the weather, they genetically engineer and splice all this stuff.
02:46:33.000It's like they're trying to create disasters.
02:46:38.000Well, and one thing that we reported late last year, there was an earthquake in the Iranian city of Bam, just after Christmas last year.
02:46:47.000And HAARP was registered up to frequency to record levels right before that earthquake, and we've seen examples of that before.
02:46:54.000But time and again, with both Chemtrails and HAARP, I run into this kind of disinformational stance, which is this naive view that it's a benign program to combat climate change, when in fact one of the big patents for HAARP, which was held by Arco Power Technologies, whose subsidiary actually was contracted to build HAARP, I mean, in their patent, they describe it as an invention that would heat plumes of charged particles in the ionosphere.
02:47:26.000In fact, the latest development is that particular subsidiary of ARCO was bought out by a chain of companies.
02:47:32.000It was bought out by eSystems and then Raytheon, and now British Aerospace actually controls the intellectual property.
02:47:39.000But talking about triggering Earthquakes and volcanic eruptions or weather changes.
02:47:44.000There's a quote by Secretary of Defense William Cohen and it says, others are engaging even in an ecotype of terrorism whereby they can alter climate, set off earthquakes and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
02:47:57.000He made that statement at a conference on weapons of mass destruction, international terrorism back in 1997, many years before 9-11.
02:48:07.000And what he suggested then was as a weapon of mass destruction that terrorist states could use electromagnetic energy in this way.
02:48:14.000Well, we know that our government and other governments around the world also can use this type of energy in this way, and yet it's undetectable by virtually anyone else.
02:48:24.000And this is all admitted, but then you tell the average person this, they laugh at you because, you know, we're in 2004, it's not 1950, people.
02:48:51.000Yeah, and this is the same kind of concept.
02:48:53.000You know, in fiction, writers, you know, they pick up on these concepts.
02:48:57.000The idea was that... That writer had obviously read your book.
02:49:01.000Sure, and you know, we see that a lot, and we've even worked with some folks on trying to develop that kind of information to get it out there.
02:49:08.000But you know, when you see manipulation of the magnetic lines of force surrounding the planet, this is actually something that is done with the HAARP instrument, something that shows up in the military record, basically to try and use, again, natural systems as part of weapon systems on the ground, changing their character dramatically, and the effect on the whole planet, Without clear knowledge of what those effects might be.
02:49:32.000And these guys are doing this with genetic engineering, and every week some lab releases something.
02:49:37.000It's only a matter of time before they release some weaponized bug.
02:50:14.000Yep, and again, you know, these stories tend to make little blips, and that's where this kind of program gets those little blips on the radar screen and keeps them there, and that's what we've got to do, make the changes by keeping You bet.
02:50:25.000Final segment, final comments from both of you gentlemen.
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02:54:27.000Also, again, I've made ten films, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, and Masters of Terror.
02:56:29.000Well, I mean, we have to realize that we have a number of these people, you know, thousands to one.
02:56:35.000And their military media complex is scientifically designed to ensure people never realize that.
02:56:43.000You know, the only people that have ever changed history are these small groups of focused individuals.
02:56:48.000And so I'd say, you know, we're only on this planet for a short time and so the opportunity to kind of guide the course of the people that do follow us is one we should embrace and not be cowardly and just, you know, go ahead and take that opportunity.
02:57:16.000It's acting on what we know to be right and true and doing it in a way that is respectful and responsible.
02:57:22.000And I think that's something that everyone that listens to these broadcasts can do.
02:57:26.000Exercise your right as a created human being to help create a better place, and that's by stepping up to the challenge and acting on what we know.
02:57:34.000And I think that's really been in the background of all of our work, the challenge that we all face together, and what these programs allow us to help stimulate is faith and confidence in the future rather than fear.
02:57:46.000Well, there's no doubt that evil always implodes by its own nature.
02:57:50.000The problem is it takes whole civilizations and millions of people.
02:57:55.000We're entering the critical phase of a decadent cycle.
02:57:58.000And the elite is attempting to bring in a tyranny that can never be removed or defeated, learning from the past, kind of the Orwell view that O'Brien espouses in the final pages of that work, that dystopic work.
02:58:10.000I want to thank Dr. Nick Magich for joining us, Paul Joseph Watson for joining us.
02:58:14.000God bless you both, look forward to having you both back up in the near future, and have a great day.
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