In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about the Bush administration's cover-up of the 9/11 attacks and the cover-ups that went along with it. Big Brother? Big Government? Big Lies? Big Cover-Ups? Big Conspiracy?
00:01:23.000Giant stun guns that blast out a wave of electricity knocking down whole crowds.
00:01:29.000You see, non-lethal weapons are really a training aid to prepare the public, the military, and the police to violently, preemptively attack peaceful protesters.
00:01:38.000And then they start taking the gloves off incrementally.
00:01:41.000There's actually army documents on this as well.
00:01:44.000In a few years, it'll be like Tiananmen Square.
00:01:46.000They'll just mow us down with .50 caliber machine guns and call it freedom!
00:02:05.000The CIA bragged years ago they were flying people to third-party countries for vicious torture!
00:02:13.000And they torture their children as well!
00:02:15.000I know for the Joseph Mingolas out there that love torture, for all the neocons, I'm sure you're quite happy, I for one am certainly not for torture muslets of children!
00:02:25.000But again, I'm a liberal, because I'm pro-gun, anti-open border, and against torture.
00:02:31.000Again, you're conservative when you're for the government doubling its growth rate, and liberty being destroyed, and assault weapons bans.
00:02:40.000Again, you're listening to a very liberal show.
00:02:45.000Pentagon military hid Iraq prisoners from the Red Cross, and of course we already know about them packing people they beat to death in ice, and putting Fake IVs in them and, oh, we're taking him to the hospital!
00:03:39.000If your Cessna goes off course for five minutes, they'll launch F-16s against you over North Dakota or South Texas.
00:03:46.000With no real military importance or strategic importance, but the most controlled corridor in the country.
00:03:51.000An hour and 24 minutes for the first plane, an hour and 47 minutes for the second plane, and over two hours for the third and fourth planes.
00:08:17.000The third program I've done on Skull and Bones in the last two years.
00:08:23.000I remember just five, six years ago being on the radio here locally, on the TV show going over Skull and Bones, how they get in coffins, how they worship Satan.
00:08:31.000And now all that's come out in the mainstream news, but they say they're just worshiping Satan for fun.
00:09:39.000And I know a lot of you You know, don't believe in God.
00:09:43.000It's like, well, I mean, I'll be telling people about, you know, skull and bones, Bohemian Grove, and they go, oh, I've heard about that, but I don't really believe in that.
00:10:16.000Almost every psychopath, in fact, I haven't researched one, and I've read a lot of these crime books, find them interesting, that isn't into the occult, that doesn't have little pentagrams in their closet, who doesn't think they're killing people for the devil.
00:10:33.000And so we have world leaders doing all of this weird stuff, and then in the real world, carrying out mass evil, bombing innocent people, shutting up police states, garbing the police in black ski masks and black uniforms and black tanks rolling around our streets.
00:10:49.000I mean, the manifestation of their worldview!
00:10:52.000So just from a sociological or psychological This view, or you could even say anthropological, just look at it.
00:11:02.000I mean, this is the religion of evil people.
00:11:45.000But this is... I guess if I worship Satan, and I, uh...
00:11:49.000You know, chanted to Lucifer, I guess I could, you know, be your president, and you would think I was a Christian, and I could have a 45-foot stone owl in my backyard, and you would trust me with a nuclear football.
00:12:04.000I mean, I have so many Christian friends who'll just go, I know about Skull and Bones, I know about Bohemian Grave, oh, they're just having fun.
00:12:09.000On the other hand, they know there's a spiritual world, or claim that they know there is, but, but, oh, Bush is just joking!
00:12:31.000I mean, they just came out yesterday in literally hundreds of newspapers.
00:12:39.000I think we've got like 15 different news articles posted on InfoWars.com.
00:12:43.000There's a whole bunch on PrisonPlanet.com.
00:12:45.000Where, oh, for depression, you know, we hook these wires in the nerves into your brain, and you know, and well, and then the government says they're going to force us to do this.
00:13:25.000Look at this article out of the New Scientist.
00:13:29.000Now, the government's been developing this for a long time.
00:13:32.000My grandfather, back in the sixties, lived next door to a successful inventor, and they worked together.
00:13:42.000As partners, on a remote control, you'd call it, you know, kind of a primitive robot on treads, would roll down the street, and it'd have these long poles sticking out from it that were telescoping to go, you know, to be as wide as any street, and they would shoot out, you know, basically little lightning bolts to knock down whole crowds.
00:14:06.000And they basically just got their money back on it because the Pentagon just bought the prototype and then basically made their own later out of it.
00:14:14.000And they never got the big military contracts.
00:14:17.000So that's how long I know personally this has been going on.
00:14:21.000Well this is out of the New Scientist.
00:14:27.000And this is the June 17th New Scientist article.
00:14:32.000Weapons that can incapacitate crowds of people by sweeping a lightning-like beam of electricity across them are being readied for sale to military and police forces in the U.S.
00:14:47.000And they've got them that mount on armored vehicles, they've got them that roll down the street that are remote control, they've got them all.
00:14:53.000And it says, a present commercial stun guns target one person at a time and work only at close quarters.
00:14:58.000The new breed of non-lethal weapons, what they actually call in the industry, less lethal, can be used on many people at once and operates over far greater distances.
00:15:09.000But human rights groups are appalled by the fact that no independent safety tests have been carried out and by their potential for indiscriminate use.
00:15:19.000The weapons are designed to address the perceived shortcomings of the Taser, the electric shotgun already used by 4,000 police departments in the U.S.
00:15:27.000undergoing trials with some police forces in the U.K.
00:15:35.000They also then get into what DARPA is developing and some of the other systems they want to use.
00:15:46.000The Sunshine Project reported two years ago that every major city's got helicopters and hangars with knockout gas ready on the paths to knock out whole cities.
00:15:56.000The Russians gassed the theater with this and what, it killed a third of the people?
00:16:00.000The terrorists only killed like five people, but the gas killed a third of the, over what, 118 people?
00:16:06.000And they say that if they hit a population with this gas and they spray a city with it, That it will kill tens of thousands.
00:16:12.000Automobile accidents, fires, you know, all the ovens that were on, all the steaks being grilled, all the stuff that'll happen.
00:16:23.000But no, they got the helicopters ready just sitting there with the knockout gas for you and your family, because we're in such a free society.
00:16:31.000But I remember reading, you know, years ago, the reports that, oh, this is to train the military and the police to engage the public.
00:16:39.000It's hard to get troops to run out in their Darth Vader outfits and start machine-gunning people unless you know you've been trained in Communist China how to do it in Tiananmen Square.
00:16:47.000But through rubber bullets, wooden dowels, beanbags, giant tankards of backpack spray nozzles of pepper spray and mace, big tankards the size of a large or small Fire extinguisher.
00:17:08.000And we have all the video on the website.
00:17:36.000Or, you know, train them how to bite, train them how to attack.
00:17:40.000And the government says that's what this is all about.
00:17:42.000And see, the non-lethal weapons, which are really called less than lethal, get more and more vicious, more and more aggressive, and this is the new America.
00:17:52.000Remember what happened in Miami last year?
00:17:56.000I mean, federal judges, AP reporters, they would march World War II vets, totally peaceful protest, down a side alley, come with us and beat them savagely, saying you shouldn't come out here and protest.
00:18:08.000They got in some trouble because it was federal judges and AP reporters.
00:18:15.000But they would march them down a side street and beat the living daylights out of them, you know, World War II vets and people.
00:18:21.000And in Portland, you know, there's a video of them spraying babies in the faces, and the parents were crying back, and they'd say, shouldn't bring a baby.
00:18:33.000They're training them to be sick to us, and then later they say, okay, here's a machine gun.
00:18:39.000And they're now giving them the sound wave rifles that can actually kill you, and the microwave guns that if they turn them on high can kill you, and a lot of big police departments now have the quiet Humvees with the giant microwave guns mounted on them, ready to be rolled out against us.
00:18:53.000What is it the government's planning that's so horrible they know there's going to be rallies of millions of people, not hundreds of thousands or thousands?
00:19:02.000You see, the IMF and World Bank, two and a half years ago, when Joseph Siklitz quit their chief economist, and these thousands of pages of documents suddenly surfaced, The actual documents of how the IMF and World Bank like to create riots, like to create problems, and they get to crack down on how they're funding the internal militarization of police.
00:19:19.000Folks, we're all just being inducted into slavery right now.
00:19:25.000And so they've issued the federal ringwraith Darth Vader outfits to all the police departments, and even small police departments are basically armed camps, and we're the enemy!
00:19:35.000You know, they've got to Watch us and keep control of us because we're dangerous.
00:19:41.000When we get back, we'll get into the Pentagon.
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00:21:51.000The United States seems to be celebrating over its triumph of reducing government debt.
00:22:05.000But the truth be told, public and private debt increased to a record high in 1999, reaching a peak of $14.8 trillion, marking 10.57% annual increase, outpacing its previous 10 years.
00:24:27.000And I thought it was bad, but it's supposedly good.
00:24:30.000Now they want to come out of the closet with it and condition you that it's a good thing so they can use it on the general public.
00:24:36.000And then they tested on a minority group in Iraq psychologically to again to prepare your minds to accept it here domestically and meanwhile the law enforcement magazines are saying this would be a good thing to use on common suspected criminals.
00:24:49.000And then they came out and said they were torturing people in Afghanistan and torturing people in Iraq and how good it was and how wonderful it was and you saw it on the news and read the editorials and we covered it and I put it in my three last films.
00:25:02.000Images they decided to release for some reason, and then suddenly we get the Murr getting his head cut off, and somehow that legitimizes all of it.
00:25:09.000But then they try to deny simultaneously that the government ever ordered it.
00:25:13.000Of course the memos from the Justice Department and from the Defense Department are all public, and they said the government's above the law, and now the Associated Press is reporting that this is an impeachable offense.
00:25:23.000The President saying he's above federal law, but maybe they're traitors, maybe they're with Al Qaeda, maybe they should be tortured.
00:25:29.000You know, I mean, maybe this is really freedom, you know?
00:25:37.000They're just Skull and Bones members, after all.
00:25:40.000Uh, Rumsfeld ordered Iraq prisoners held in secret.
00:25:44.000Pentagon officials say Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld ordered an Iraq terror suspect, and they always give you one.
00:25:50.000They have 32 known camps and hundreds of other camps we're now learning of, to be held in secret location, hidden away from the International Committee on the Red Cross and others.
00:25:59.000Officials say Mr. Rumsfeld, acting on request of the CIA Director, George Tenet, ordered the suspected senior member of the terror group, Ansar al-Islam, to be secretly held in solitary confinement at a military prison near Baghdad.
00:26:13.000And the man had been held in prison for seven months.
00:26:28.000Our government in the fifties said that he was like Abe Lincoln.
00:26:32.000Defense Department officials say the man will soon be assigned an identification number.
00:26:36.000Then we've got articles here where the prisoners die in these secret prisons, but I guess that's freedom.
00:26:43.000And a spokesman says that an Iraqi has been held since October without an ID number and just goes into that.
00:26:50.000So whenever they get caught doing this, they'll tell you about some tiny piece of it and focus in on that.
00:26:56.000And, uh, Reuters is also, uh, reporting, uh, on it.
00:26:59.000And, uh, very, very interesting, but again, the Associated Press is saying that Bush could be impeached over saying they're above the law and are allowed to torture.
00:27:13.000I guess the ones that say Enron can't be run out of the Vice President's office with no bids allowed, all the money going directly to them?
00:27:19.000I guess that type of open, incredible, mafioso fraud crime?
00:27:36.000troops will remain in Iraq as long as necessary until Iraqi forces can handle security on their own, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Thursday during a visit to northern Iraq.
00:27:46.000The role of the coalition forces after July 1st is to support the Iraq security forces as much as they need help From sometime to come, they will need some substantial help and help them is the mission that we would like to carry out.
00:28:29.000Two days ago at the TV station, I was told by an old friend again that I should be arrested for saying the government's behind 9-11.
00:28:34.000That's sedition, and this thought has gotten out there now, and criticizing the government, pointing out what they've done is Al-Qaeda-ish, and not submitting and loving tyranny is Al-Qaeda-ish.
00:28:47.000Because, again, any criticism of the state aids the terrorist, and so that is, hence, al-Qaeda-ish.
00:28:54.000By the way, I'm not being sarcastic, folks.
00:28:58.000Interestingly enough, a September 11th panel criticizes Pentagon air defense, but they really didn't do that concerning the scandal of 9-11.
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00:33:38.000And just a plethora of incredible news discussions now, even in the Associated Press, of impeachment of George Bush, adding a lot of validity to the rumblings that that's been going on behind the scenes.
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00:37:27.000All right, let's go to Captain Joyce Riley to explain what American Candidate is and to give us an update and how folks can help her win this and why it's important that she win this.
00:37:38.000And then we'll, in a few minutes, get to the 60 Minutes piece and then we'll go right to your calls for those of you holding in more news.
00:37:59.000American Candidate is a program that basically started out with about 2,000 people, that we learned, is now down, was narrowed down to 24, then down to about 12, of people who say that they believe that if they were President of the United States, they would have an answer.
00:38:19.000So everybody that is running, all of these people, have a different answer.
00:38:23.000But we want to get in front of the American public to say, we don't like the answers that are already out there, we don't like either party that's running, and obviously it's got to be either a libertarian, constitutionalist party, which is my particular choice at this point, because what we're seeing out there is absolutely abysmal.
00:38:43.000Well, ten people are, narrowed down from twelve to ten, are, and we can't tell how many people are left right now, but are in this competition.
00:38:52.000They narrow it down by dropping you into a town and basically saying, go find both.
00:39:47.000and then the person that we have to work through this process for shooting at all
00:39:51.000now being how many episodes on showtime There's going to be 10 episodes on Showtime.
00:39:55.000Okay, well that's a big deal and then out of that you'll be able to get out the real ideas and people will be able to see what the grassroots from a diverse crowd really wants.
00:40:28.000Okay, so it's not like these other reality shows where it's groupthink and they go after the strongest people first because if that was the case you would be the first to be kicked out.
00:40:37.000That's why I don't like these shows like Survivor and the rest of them.
00:40:40.000Well, you know, it's interesting because we all talked about this, and we said, now wait a minute, are we going to knock off the person that we think would be the biggest threat to us?
00:40:46.000Or are we going to vote for the person we really want?
00:40:49.000And here is the bottom line, is that I want the American candidate, whoever it's going to be, to be the absolute best person.
00:45:00.000Yeah, I think Joyce, I mean, if it's really a fair situation, it's just between her and Richard Mack.
00:45:09.000Sounds like the rest of the competition sounds pretty lousy, folks.
00:45:14.000Let me tell you, the establishment liberals cannot get a thimble's worth of people out to support them because their message just doesn't sell.
00:45:25.000That's why we get sold this fake conservatism of Lord Bush.
00:45:29.000I know we've got loaded phone lines, but here's this 60 Minutes piece from this weekend, just a part of it.
00:45:35.000And this is where they go through... I mean, they really whitewash this.
00:45:40.000So, I want to play it, and then I want to come back and comment on it and take your calls at 1-800-259-9231.
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00:46:01.000the founder of Time Magazine, to W. Averill Harriman, diplomat and confidant of U.S. presidents.
00:46:08.000What's important about the undergraduate years at Skoll and Bowens, as opposed to fraternities,
00:46:14.000is that it imbues them with a kind of mission for moral leadership.
00:46:19.000And it's something that they may ignore for 30 years of their life, as George W. Bush seemed to successfully ignore it for quite a long time.
00:47:14.000I believe the point of the Year in the Tomb is to forge such a strong bond between these 15 new members that after they graduate, for them to betray Skull and Bones would mean they'd have to betray their 14 closest friends.
00:47:29.000One can't help but make certain comparisons with the Mafia, for example.
00:47:37.000Stakes may be a little higher in one than the other, but everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.
00:47:45.000I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the Mafia, in the sense that, you know, the leaders of the five families are all doing a hundred years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bone families are doing four and eight years in the White House.
00:48:03.000Bones is not restricted to Republicans.
00:48:05.000Yet another bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office.
00:48:16.000Yes, I mean, again, all the people say, oh, these societies don't matter, or the Eastern Establishment is in decline, and you could not find two more quintessential Eastern Establishment privileged guys.
00:48:30.000I remember when I was a nerdy scholarship student in the Reserve Book Room at the Yale Library, And John Kerry, who at that point styled himself John F. Kerry, would walk in.
00:48:46.000There was always a little buzz because even then he was seen to be destined for higher things.
00:48:51.000He was the head of the political union and a tap for skull and bones was seen as the natural sequel to that.
00:48:59.000David Brooks, a conservative commentator, who's published a book on the social dynamics of the outwardly mobile, says that while skull and bones may be elite and secret, it's anything but exciting.
00:49:12.000My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes.
00:49:16.000They're really impressive until you get into them.
00:49:19.000And then once you're there, they're a little dull.
00:49:21.000So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones.
00:49:26.000And to me, to be in one of those organizations, you have to have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium.
00:49:30.000Because you're sitting around talking, talking, and talking.
00:49:33.000You're not running the world, you're just gassing.
00:49:35.000Gassing or not, Skull and Bones, the best connected white man's club in America, has moved, reluctantly, into the 21st century.
00:49:45.000Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women.
00:49:48.000The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bones men, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation, claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape.
00:50:09.000It has Jews, it has blacks, it has gays.
00:50:12.000It has the gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's, it's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations.
00:50:19.000It's different criteria, more multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.
00:50:25.000So a balance you find as bizarre as skull and bones seems to be from a certain perspective, it is something of value you would say?
00:50:34.000You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle, Uh, they share their, they spill their guts with each other, fine, but they learn something beyond themselves.
00:50:43.000They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community, and maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.
00:50:53.000Does that relationship... Okay, we gotta stop right there.
00:50:57.000We'll play the end of it when we get back.
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00:54:27.000Does that relationship, forged with all this mumbo-jumbo and coffins and skulls and bones and all of that stuff, does that become, in some cases anyway, stronger than family, faith?
00:54:42.000You know, they say the motto at Yale is, for God, for country, and for Yale.
00:54:46.000At Bones, I would think it's for Bones.
00:54:52.000Okay, so, they get this little minion on there, They control the debate because Alexander Robinson, who we've interviewed, doesn't go, you know, 10% of the way towards the full truth, but it's bad enough.
00:55:05.000And the other guy on there, oh, you know, it's SAT scores.
00:55:33.000And now we've got, you know, we've had three presidents, no, four presidents who were Skull & Bones members, most the CIA directors, a lot of your top corporate heads, and they make the core up of the Bohemian Grove.
00:55:45.000And, you know, there's other Skull & Bones chapters, by the way, around the planet.
00:56:42.000And just watch the spin they put on this.
00:56:44.000Now we have both presidential candidates who are cousins on both sides of their family, double cousins, and they're members of Skull and Bones, and they're arrogant, predatory parasites.
00:56:59.000But now, because it's so open, the media's gone from, it doesn't exist, you're a kook to talk about it, five, six years ago, to, yeah, Skull and Bones is real, but it's really no big deal.
00:57:07.000And three years ago, they released video of part of the ritual caught on tape, as they were worshipping Satan, doing mock sacrifices, a guy dressed up like the devil, saying, enter hell with me.
00:57:16.000And this is what goes on in the courtyard, behind the high walls.
00:57:21.000So, my friends, if you want to find out the truth about Skull and Bones, get Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, and we caught their Moloch worship on tape, the Canaanite human sacrifice god.
00:57:31.000And oh, they're just having fun there, too!
00:57:33.000But then you look at what they do in the real world, it's evil, it's wickedness.
00:58:26.000And of course, we do have a section on PrisonPlanet.tv, the Satanic Elite is what it's called, on Skull & Bones, on Bohemian Grove, and the Illuminati, where you can go check it out for yourself.
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01:00:51.000On the situation with Iraqis getting gas for five cents a gallon, but we don't, and much more.
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01:01:05.000Yeah, I just wanted to give a plug to your videos also, because they're easy for people to grasp, unlike a lot of bizarre videos I've come across in my eight years.
01:01:15.000I've seen about 700 of them, and I've seen everything from chupacabras to shapeshifters to UFOs, and I've yet to see any credible evidence, so thank you for not going off in that direction.
01:01:38.000You were talking about skull and bones.
01:01:41.000One thing I'd like you to speak on is, I was reading Anthony Sutton's book, and they were talking about how they were had some kind of a obsession with baseball and then you
01:01:50.000look at george bush and he's you know owning baseball teams and whatnot so
01:02:27.000You know, the diamonds and the way it's played and the way it's done is kind of like a ritualistic thing.
01:02:33.000It's very similar to the games they played that the Aztecs played at Chichen Itza in the ball playing court.
01:02:40.000And so a lot of these games, you know, go back to sports thousands of years ago were actually rituals.
01:02:46.000That sounds weird, but that's the facts.
01:02:49.000And there is an Illuminati connection to the Skull and Bones.
01:02:53.000I think if I recall... Even MSNBC admits that German money, or a German priest with British East Indian money, the Russell Trust, set it up with opium money, back when opium was legal, heroin, or what heroin comes from.
01:03:07.000And so, you know, the same folks that dealt the drugs then, the same families deal the drugs today.
01:03:13.000Who was it, the Roosevelt, I think it was?
01:03:16.000Roosevelt, the Bushes, others that go way back to that trade.
01:03:20.000And then one of the Russells, they were one of the founders of the Jehovah's Witnesses, if I'm not mistaken.
01:03:33.000Yeah, I've been listening to you for a while about 9-11 and I haven't heard anything, I haven't ever heard you speak about the day of 9-11.
01:03:42.000I'm in Delaware, so I'm watching the Philadelphia News, and they found a locker full of SimTechs.
01:03:54.000And then it just kind of blipped off the radar screen.
01:03:56.000Yeah, and of course, I did some follow-up, and they first tried to say that was a mistake, it never happened.
01:04:04.000I then asked the logical question, well, how'd you say that in the first place?
01:04:08.000And then they said that it came, it was some Some syntax from the Vietnam era, and that's all they would tell me, but still haven't heard any more about it.
01:04:19.000Sir, so many suspicious things happening.
01:04:22.000You know, guys jumping up and down the roof, celebrating as the first plane hits, and then they follow them back to their office building and it's a known Mossad agent running it, and then they pull out and there's nothing but paper left on the floor.
01:04:32.000I'm not saying Israel did it, but they certainly had prior knowledge.
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01:08:54.000Well, if we're going to try to impeach Bill Clinton over lying about sex, which I think is a fine thing to do, I mean, the reason they couldn't go after Bill Clinton on all the other issues of drug dealing and murders and Chinese sellouts is because the Republicans were all involved too, so they picked a little side issue.
01:09:11.000In a letter released by two Harvard Law professors, Scholars ask Congress to identify everyone who should be held accountable for the torture at Abu Ghraib Prison and determine what sanctions are appropriate.
01:09:24.000The sanctions, they said, could include impeachment and removal from office of any civil officer of the United States responsible.
01:09:33.000And it says the Democratic Senators are trying to round up enough support for the vote today to subpoena the Justice Department for memos that could have laid the legal groundwork for justifying the prisoner abuse.
01:09:46.000Attorney General John Ashcroft has declined to make public the Justice Department memos written in 2002.
01:09:52.000And there's other Defense Department memos from 2003, saying Bush is above federal law.
01:09:58.000In the letter, scholars said the prosecution of low-level military personnel, though the abuse is not enough.
01:10:03.000Harvard Law professor Christine Deason said Congress would have to determine if the abuse rose to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, which would be punishable by impeachment.
01:10:16.000So it's pretty serious that move is taking place.
01:10:19.000The prisoner abuse, again, the prisoner torture, made public in photos and video, is being investigated, that is whitewashed, by military and Justice Department officials.
01:10:48.000The letter was signed by the host of legal notables, including former O.J.
01:10:53.000Simpson defender, Alan Dershowitz, and Reverend Robert F. Dryden, a former Massachusetts Congress member, who teaches at Georgetown University Law School.
01:11:38.000It seemed that they left out Kind of like an important weird part about the entire, they might not do it anymore, but the entire like sexual touching thing, like as they recount their experiences to their... Well let's, we have a lot of children listening and it's admitted what they do, they have, they do things with skulls, they do things together, it's just, it's Christian and conservative.
01:11:59.000Exactly, that's why I didn't want to go into any detail because there are children listening.
01:12:35.000And a caller called in and suggested this, and you know, I was telling my friend, I'm like, let me guess, Sean Hannity thought it was the best thing in the world.
01:12:40.000By the way, it's always, I've heard it like three times, it's the same voice, the same guy.
01:13:13.000Wondering if you could give any advice to maybe crack through this, you know, cult of Bush, cult of Kerry, that, you know, people are just so kind of blinded by their ideological affiliations.
01:13:22.000Well, Kerry says he's for the war, he says he's for staying, Kerry's for open borders, Kerry's for gun control, Kerry's for signing on to UNESCO, Kerry's for increasing the funding of the IMF and World Bank, and Bush is for every one of those.
01:13:34.000The rhetoric is different, the actions are the same.
01:13:36.000So it's just a matter of pointing out the same actions.
01:13:41.000They'll have somebody who we know is bad, like Hillary Clinton, come out and attack Bush.
01:13:44.000And then, oh, if Hillary attacked Bush on the plea to uranium, the plea to uranium must be good because we know Hillary's bad.
01:13:50.000Again, they know that we're going to cheer for one of the pro wrestlers.
01:13:55.000You've got to explain that it's pro-wrestling and pro-wrestling isn't real.
01:13:59.000We have to have that child-like argument with these child-like minds and go, no, you can't hit somebody over the head with a metal chair 55 times and they not be in a coma.
01:15:04.000Because, um, what they do is, is they, uh, in these, these countries like Russia and, uh, In Northern Ireland, just with the drugs now, with the psychotropic drugs like prolixin, the Northern Ireland
01:15:25.000They use that a lot on political prisoners.
01:15:29.000Well, the Supreme Court ruled they can grab you and put you in solitary confinement for seven years and drug you with anti-psychotics even worse than the Prozac type uptake inhibitors.
01:16:10.000The men in black masks grab you, put you in the van, you're never seen again, and ten years later you're released a vegetable and, you know, get a job for the Supreme Soviets, you know, picking up trash on the street, and you sit there drooling, but that's freedom!
01:16:24.000Well, the thing of it is, and this is the truly sobering thing, Kate Millett, I'm a reader, and like you, I like to read crime books as well, but in Kate Millett's book, The Politics of Cruelty, She makes a rather telling comment that if you are a political dissident, you at least have the fellowship and the feeling of camaraderie of other political dissidents.
01:16:54.000But these totalitarian regimes have learned, see, that if they can label an individual as mad, then that person is isolated.
01:17:06.000Well, that's what happened in 1984, which, again, Eric Blair, George Orwell is his pen name, had worked for the Soviets, had worked for the Empire, had worked for the BBC, had worked for all sides, found out it was all the same, and they drug Winston, they torture Winston.
01:17:23.000I mean, this is what they do, but it's loving, because Winston was undermining the state and aiding Al-Qaeda, I mean, Goldstein.
01:17:29.000Hey, thanks for the call, great points.
01:18:01.000And the first one was, I was watching MSNBC earlier here today, well, about 20 minutes ago, Uh, they were talking about the 9-1-1 Commission wrapping things up and how that, uh...
01:18:11.000Had those fighter jets intercepted those planes, they could have prevented 9-1-1.
01:18:15.000But nobody could get a hold of Cheney, who was in the bunker, running and all.
01:18:39.000It was, you know, if your assistant goes off course for five minutes, they'll launch F-16s in every case.
01:18:43.000But for the first time ever with four separate planes, it just magically stood down because the CIA was running a drill of flying hijacked jets in the buildings and they thought it was just a drill.
01:19:29.000Uh, yeah, the second one I'd like to get your comment on here is about this group we have in Iraq who's being charged with murder.
01:19:37.000I'd like to know where and when somebody's going to charge Dubby and Chaney and Powell and Rumsfeld and all of them for sending our troops over there after it's become planned.
01:19:46.000Well, I'll tell you what, stay there and we'll talk about it.
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01:24:15.000I can't understand why, after there was no evidence of WMDs and no ties with Saddam to 9-1-1, Osama, or Al-Qaeda, Why Bush and others aren't being brought up any type of murder charges?
01:24:26.000Because how many people have they killed by putting troops in Iraq and Afghanistan?
01:24:31.000It's conservatively 50,000 civilians, innocents killed in Iraq.
01:25:19.000It's like when one of our other people moved and everybody was calling and going, where are they at, where are they at, and then they just moved.
01:25:53.000Anybody in your office have it that they could give it to me out there?
01:25:57.000Well, one of his books was published by a lady named Sandra, who actually works for Tex Mars, so you might contact that office and talk to her, sir.
01:26:05.000Tex Mars, do you have his current phone number?
01:26:07.000You know, see, I just, we don't screen calls.
01:26:23.000I know that you hate to be praised, but you've got to give me one minute on that, or one second on that.
01:26:28.000From the time that no one would listen to my harassment that the Social Security was trying to get money out of me, no one, years and years and years ago, would listen to me but you.
01:26:40.000And I want to thank you for what you've done and your perseverance.
01:28:00.000Oh, he loves to have those guests on and they can come on and do their spin and tell their funny little jokes and everything.
01:28:06.000On June 9th, show June 9th, which was last Wednesday's show, he had William Buckley on.
01:28:14.000The very beginning of the show, He made a reference to, they were of course reminiscing about Reagan, and made a reference to how he was referring to himself, Buckley and Reagan were at the Bohemian Grove, and told a little anecdote about George Bush arriving.
01:28:35.000You know, and they go on to proceed to talk about things, but there's never any references to what is the Bohemian Grove?
01:28:43.000I'm sure most of Charlie Rose's listeners haven't even heard of the name of the player.
01:28:47.000So, who was on Charlie Rose when this happened?
01:29:06.000June 9th, which was last Wednesday's show.
01:29:08.000Man, if that re-airs, folks, tape it and send me a copy.
01:29:11.000I wish to God I had... So he had a little joke about Bohemian Grove.
01:29:17.000A little joke about... Reagan was in... I believe it went something along the lines where he was making references to Reagan was, you know, at the end of his term and probably at the beginnings of his Alzheimer's.
01:29:32.000He's standing with Buckley and walks up George Bush and he doesn't recognize George Bush and they have a little laugh about it.
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01:33:25.000back to your calls Gabe and Mary and Kelly and many others that are patiently holding and I've got a bunch of other key news items that I'm going to get to as well concerning torture, the economy.
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01:39:16.000Security forces were desperately hunting today for an American hostage facing death within hours at the hands of terrorists in Saudi Arabia.
01:39:26.000In the past, we don't know if this is LCIA, we don't know what this is.
01:39:29.000I mean, the globalists think nothing of human life.
01:39:32.000We've caught them doing stuff like this in the past.
01:39:34.000The outlook for defense contractor Paul Johnson was quote, grim according to a U.S.
01:39:39.000Senator who held emergency talks with a Saudi official.
01:39:42.000The hostage takers gave their captives 72 hours to live from Wednesday unless Al Qaeda hostages were released and Westerners left the Arab Peninsula.
01:39:52.000Hostage rescue experts have been called in by the authorities in Saudi Arabia.
01:39:56.000Remember two weeks ago, the machine gunning that was going on in the Khobar area of Saudi Arabia?
01:40:03.000government ordered the terrorist release, ordered the Saudis to back off and let them flee, even after they had already left the hostages and could have been caught.
01:40:12.000Remember, I mean, there's been countless of these articles come out.
01:40:19.000Two senators from Mr. Johnson's home state of New Jersey, Frank Lautenberg and John Corzine, held crisis talks with Abdel Ali Jouber, the former policy advisor to the Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah.
01:40:32.000And speaking after the meeting with Mr. Lautenberg, he said it's grim.
01:40:36.000He said the Saudi authorities said they were doing everything humanly possible to rescue Mr. Johnson.
01:40:41.000They have called in experts and hostage rescue teams from the United States to assist them, he told CNN.
01:40:47.000He indicated he was not optimistic there would be a successful ending to the hostage crisis.
01:40:51.000And again, you're saying, why would the government be involved in this?
01:41:30.000That's the number one thing we should say.
01:41:38.000There's a move in states to take your organs, whether you don't want them taken or not.
01:41:44.000They've already caught them here in Austin and many other areas around the country taking your eyeballs or corneas when you die, even if you say you don't want your body parts taken.
01:41:53.000They've been caught taking people's skins and stealing other organs and sewing you back up.
01:42:36.000In fact, I've got an article here about AIDS and hepatitis spreading up in New York because they do these colonoscopies and don't even clean them.
01:42:49.000I don't want to go into too much detail here, but it's pretty gross stuff.
01:42:53.000It's like the government still shipping in blood, shipping out blood full of AIDS, AIDS and Hepatitis, and they know it.
01:42:59.000Bill Clinton for eight years when he knew the blood from the prisons was filled with it, when it was illegal to ship it out of prisons, kept doing it, certifying it as wholesome.
01:43:09.000Either they're just idiots at these hospitals that don't care about people and are lazy, or it's because they're actively evil and just don't care.
01:43:22.000Man, I'm jumping around here, but there's just so much.
01:43:24.000September 11th panel wraps, that means criticizes Pentagon Air Defense.
01:43:32.000They know everybody knows about NORAD standing down, so they put their spin on it.
01:43:36.000Plagued by miscommunication and confusion, the Pentagon's Air Defense Command missed an opportunity to possibly intercept at least one of the hijacked planes on September 11th, the federal panel reviewing the attack said Thursday.
01:43:50.000This is the same panel appointed by Bush.
01:43:53.000A report released by the Commission at its final public hearing offered a chilling account of the day America suffered its worst terror attack.
01:44:01.000It details a series of missteps by aviation and military officials that squandered precious moments between the time air traffic controllers became aware of the first hijacking and the crash of United Airlines Flight 93 into a Pennsylvania field more than an hour later.
01:44:17.000Folks, they knew an hour In twenty plus minutes before the first plane hit, this has been admitted that they were hijacked.
01:44:26.000But then the government grabbed the FAA control tower tapes, five separate ones, and destroyed them.
01:44:41.000A particularly haunting section of the report includes transcripts of three brief transmissions from the cockpit of American Airlines Flight 11.
01:44:48.000See, they just released snippets, but we shredded the rest.
01:44:51.000Which took off from Boston and was the first plane to strike the World Trade Center.
01:44:55.000Muhammad Atta, the alleged ringleader of the 19 hijackers, he alleged, folks, who piloted the plane, I thought he was alleged, is heard instructing passengers, just stay quiet, we are returning to the airport.
01:46:03.000And then months later it'll be in the back of the paper that, oh, he was actually innocent.
01:46:07.000Same thing in England on a weekly basis.
01:46:09.000But it creates the atmosphere of, ooh, we're under attack, we're in danger.
01:46:12.000Since the 9-11 attacks, Al Qaeda has become decentralized to its base in Afghanistan, seen many of its leaders and financiers captured or killed, and had its funding base devastated.
01:46:23.000Still, according to a report issued yesterday by the 9-11 Commission, U.S.
01:46:26.000intelligence authorities expect the trend towards attacks intended to cause ever higher casualties will continue.
01:46:33.000And we see these articles, you know, 50 times a day, but then next, the Business Times says, oh, these wild conspiracy theorists said there's going to be a new terror attack, and say the Fed is preparing for terror attacks.
01:46:46.000But this is all just, you know, propaganda.
01:46:48.000The Fed doesn't have news of another September 11th attack, does it?
01:46:51.000IT that says it must say something about fear and greed that normally sane people take leave of their senses to construct financial market conspiracy theories.
01:47:01.000Some of the theories, embarrassing as it may seem, this is them setting it up to blame it on, you know, talk show hosts and people when the attacks, if they don't happen, when the government put the reports out.
01:47:10.000Some of these theories, embarrassing as it would seem, find their way into print.
01:47:14.000A recent conspiracy theory, making the rounds, concerns the surge of money supply, growth, and watch-the-web-being-spun implementation that the Fed must know something.
01:47:23.000So they admit they're printing record money, but you're a conspiracy theorist to say it has something to do with terror.
01:47:27.000According to this line of thinking, the U.S.
01:47:29.000Federal Reserve is flooding the banking system with reserves in the same way that it did following the September 11th attacks, except this time it's anticipating the event.
01:47:38.000Two weeks ago, Safe Haven posted an alarming analysis of its website warning of the unpredicted, unheard of, pre-catastrophe of M3 money supply expansion.
01:48:14.000Okay, well it sounds like you're 15 feet away, but go ahead.
01:48:16.000Okay, well, the first thing I want to know is I've been hearing a lot of chatter on shortwave about the naval deployment, and I went to Google and tried to search the net on some information, I really couldn't find it, I've just been hearing it on shortwave, and that's my first question.
01:48:29.000Yeah, about three weeks ago, about three weeks ago, the Associated Press reported a large naval maneuver, a bunch of aircraft carriers put into sea, and it is confirmed.
01:49:18.000They're not in all of them, and it's a type of magnetic ink, which if you type in RFID laid down in ink, you'll have Hewlett-Packard and Hitachi announcements about two years ago where they admit they have this.
01:49:59.000Yesterday on the news here in Kansas City, there was a 68-year-old woman and a 74-year-old man, husband and wife, and they were coming home.
01:50:08.000The wife of the woman was coming home with her sister.
01:50:11.000Sister's car was parked on the wrong side of the street, and when the police were entering, a disturbance called... Yeah, she honked her car at the car, she got out, and the cop didn't like it, and tasered her in front of witnesses.
01:50:22.000And then the husband came downstairs, turning his wife, you know, screaming, he jumped on the cop as a defense against his wife, and they tasered him and took him off in his pajamas.
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02:00:18.000In Europe, every couple of weeks I see an article where some government minister criticizes the fact that they're getting rid of juries, secretly arresting people, spying on everyone, doing the same stuff that they're doing now in this country.
02:00:31.000But even on a wider scale, while talking about how evil America is, again it's all this good cop, bad cop behavior, And they say, oh, you're not for a Klan member saying bad things about black people, are you?
02:00:44.000Well, in Europe, it's, you're not for a neo-Nazi saying bad things about Jews.
02:00:47.000Well, I know, I don't particularly agree with that, but I agree with their First Amendment right to say that because of the...
02:00:55.000If they're free speech right in Europe, because if you take that Yahoo's right, then I lose my right.
02:01:01.000I mean, France was arresting people and trying to stop, uh, speaking of Yahoo, the Yahoo website from allowing people to have shopping carts selling World War II memorabilia.
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02:01:42.000Experts gather in Paris on Wednesday, seeking a common approach to the UN, I would add, combating racist, anti-Semitic, and xenophobic.
02:01:50.000Now, they've arrested English farmers who use the old pounds measurement instead of the metric and they say that's racism, that's xenophobic.
02:02:24.000Officials from more than 60 countries were attending the two-day conference aimed at finding ways to keep racist information off the web without compromising free speech and freedom of expression.
02:02:34.000And again, they want the UN to come in on a global scale and regulate, tough global regulation, shown by the widespread illegal sharing of music online that has confounded record companies.
02:02:46.000So see, there's other needs for global regulation, they say.
02:02:50.000And they say that they've got to go in and shut all this down.
02:02:55.000Okay, let's go ahead and talk to Kelly in Texas.
02:03:14.000I live in Seminole, Texas, but I'm just saying if I'm down there... The only place that sells my videos on the ground in Austin Is the hardware store incorporated at the corner of Spicewood Springs Road and 183?
02:03:26.000Okay, I also wanted to say about the guy that called in yesterday talking about it.
02:03:58.000And also, I've recently been reading about people trying to blame some of this terrorism on like heavy metal and all this stuff, you know, music and stuff, the negativity of it all and all that.
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02:08:03.000And I'm honored to be joined by the president of the San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility.
02:08:13.000I was reading a Sunshine Project document concerning the fact that these Level 4 bioweapons labs, the BioShield, you know, five plus billion dollars of funding Bush got to build three dozen Level 4 bioweapons labs.
02:08:27.000James Weapons Publications have talked about this.
02:08:29.000This is a cover for a weapons production And PNAC and others talk about race-specific bioweapons, and we know Israel, the US, England, the Russians, others have been developing this.
02:08:42.000And it's very frightening, and much more dangerous, frankly, than nuclear weapons, my friends.
02:08:50.000Because once it's out, it's out of control.
02:09:06.000I mean, regardless of what political bent somebody's a part of, our government shakes their fists at all these third world dustbins who don't even have you know, primitive 1940s bio weapons, but then
02:09:20.000there's no telling what high-tech stuff our government's got. I'd like to go over that with you.
02:09:24.000Certainly. Well, this is one of the major issues that are definitely hitting our country and the world in terms of
02:09:32.000what the United States position has been on as regarding how do we control the new technologies in
02:09:39.000particular, how do we keep these new technologies, genetic modification,
02:09:43.000and a lot of other similar types of genetic engineering techniques
02:09:49.000from being used to develop new biological weapons.
02:09:54.000Right now, according to the General American Medical Association, an article that came out at the end of the 1990s, there are about 70 different organisms that we know right now have the potential for being biological weapons.
02:11:00.000But if you get into the type of situation where Governments or other actors are going to start using the genetic modification techniques.
02:11:12.000Organisms could be developed that would be resistant to any sort of antibiotic or vaccine.
02:11:18.000And this is the extreme danger of the type of work that the United States is entertaining doing in its plans for developing a nationwide system of so-called biodefense labs.
02:11:32.000And we'll talk about, I mean, obviously in the black budget shadow programs, this is massive, it's going on, but now they're going public with it.
02:11:40.000The Boston newspapers have talked about it.
02:11:43.000The big Washington papers have discussed it.
02:11:49.000In one article in the Baltimore Sun, they said they're going to produce thousands of gallons of liquid death.
02:11:55.000That they're building these dangerous things that are more dangerous than nuclear power plants, folks.
02:11:59.000All over our communities, three dozen of them.
02:12:02.000But let's give people a case point example.
02:12:03.000A couple years ago, through universities and the government in Australia, they take this mouse pox, kills all the mice that come in contact with it, and they put out the recipe for it and say, oh, this can be made for any mammal.
02:12:18.000I mean, why on earth would they release the ingredients to this?
02:12:24.000Well, it's a good question, and it really points to the dangerous nature of such type of experiments.
02:12:31.000You know, there's additional evidence pointing to these problems.
02:12:35.000A number of years ago, the old biological weapons facility in Great Britain, the Porton Downs facility, was reported to have violated its own lab guidelines and synthesized a combination of dengue fever And hepatitis, an organism made of those two
02:12:54.000That would likely be more dangerous than AIDS.
02:12:58.000Were you aware that four years ago, it was in Sky Television, London Telegraph as well, that, oh, by the way, we think we accidentally released, or somebody stole, weaponized foot and mouth, and then that's what caused that whole crisis.
02:13:11.000So, oh, this stuff could be accidentally released?
02:13:31.000And you know, the thing is, this is the reason why a lot of community organizations around the country For very good reason, are opposing the siting of labs in their communities.
02:13:42.000Where are some of the places they want to build these three dozen?
02:13:45.000Well, first off, you know, just for your listeners, if they want to get the best information of where the plans are, the Sunshine Project at www.sunshineproject.org.
02:13:58.000We have a link to the subsection, by the way, on InfoWars.com.
02:14:00.000That's terrific, because they've just developed, and they've been doing a series of updated maps of what the proposed Uh, biodefense facilities are around the country and just came out with one, uh, within the last two weeks.
02:14:12.000So I'd really urge the, uh, listeners to log on and actually see for themselves what the various plans are.
02:14:19.000But there are plans, as indicated on those maps, to put these facilities all around the country.
02:14:25.000And so, for example, there are proposals to build one in conjunction with Boston University.
02:14:31.000They already have started it at UT down on the coast.
02:15:58.000Glanders is a disease that's not contagious, but nonetheless it wasn't diagnosed until he was out in the community.
02:16:06.000Yeah, that's what's going to happen, and are you familiar with Jane's weapons publications?
02:16:11.000Yes, I mean I don't read it regularly, but I know of... They are the premier, I mean they told us about the B-2 bomber years before it came out.
02:16:18.000They put out a rare alert last year going, look, Israel, England, and the U.S.
02:16:44.000South Africans, for example, were reported.
02:16:47.000During the coverage of the so-called Dr. Death, the physician who'd worked with South African intelligence and as well in developing biological weapons programs for use in Zimbabwe and Rhodesia, that they were working on this.
02:17:04.000But we have to remember that the human beings, despite our Racial and ethnic differences share more genetic similarities than differences.
02:17:13.000So, there are major problems, theoretically, in being able to develop... But now that the genome has been published with IBM and the government... But the point is, Alex, is that there's still, even if we have a published genome, there's still, and it has been discovered from a lot of the genetic research, including the genetic mapping, That we share more genes, much more genes, for individual to individual, race to race, than we differ.
02:17:41.000Well, I agree, but my point is, doctor, they're working on these systems.
02:17:45.000We have evidence that this stuff can be released.
02:17:50.000Well, yeah, I don't disagree at all that these types of technologies should be banned.
02:17:54.000All I'm trying to indicate is that We should be careful in terms of what we're saying is out there and really develop because there are major theoretical genetic problems in terms of being able to use a weapon against one group without having it really backfire and... My point is that they admit that it's been worked on and studied.
02:18:16.000Yeah, well there's a lot of secret research that's going on.
02:18:19.000I think that we need to... the general problem that we're talking about here Really, is the fact that any sort of genetic modification is going on with these organisms because this presages a biological arms race.
02:18:35.000I mean, let's get into that after the break, Doctor, because that's really the crux of all this and we're honored to have you.
02:19:05.000We need to be able to put pressure on our country because, unfortunately, it's been our country that has rejected the really important negotiations and plans to be able to
02:19:15.000get some controls over this. So these types of experiments don't happen. Yeah,
02:19:18.000I mean who knows what's going to happen splicing goats and spiders?
02:19:21.000Well, this is why we need, you know, I mean as the bottom line on all of this
02:19:26.000is that we need the strongest possible biological weapons convention.
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02:23:44.000We're talking to Dr. Robert Boulden, a pathologist in San Francisco.
02:23:58.000He's the head of the President of San Francisco Bay Physicians for Social Responsibility.
02:24:04.000You know, Americans shouldn't be experts on Madonna and Michael Jackson and Britney Spears or on football.
02:24:09.000Spend some time on that, but you might want to find out that all over the world they have accidents at these Level 3 and Level 4 bioweapons labs and people die and horrible stuff gets released.
02:24:18.000And now we're going to build three dozen of these plants.
02:24:20.000I already set one up down in South Texas.
02:24:23.000UT, I guess their nuclear reactor in downtown Austin isn't enough for them that no one seems to know about that's been there for 38 years.
02:24:30.000You know, we have all of this happening, and people need to know about it!
02:24:34.000And, uh, so they're gonna have, uh, three dozen of these, thirty-plus of these, already some of them set up, along with the other labs, and, uh, we need to have a debate.
02:24:46.000But Big Pharma doesn't want you to be informed about it.
02:24:49.000Uh, but, I'm sure you know how to have your belly button ring properly adorning you, though.
02:24:53.000Uh, but not that our whole planet could be destroyed by this.
02:24:57.000Doctor, The stuff they've developed, the stuff we know that's out there, I mean, we're talking about killing billions of people possibly, are we not?
02:25:07.000I mean, it depends on the organism, but again, if we're going to start Manufacturing new organisms that we don't have any natural resistance to in our species, the possibilities are really endless in that way.
02:25:22.000And this is why this research in particular needs to come under very tight international control.
02:25:29.000The other thing, I mean, since you have to mention the nuclear reactor issue, is another issue that we also have to think about as regards some of the programs.
02:25:39.000So for example, Some of the labs that are being slated are, for example, in my own hometown in the San Francisco Bay Area.
02:25:48.000There's a BSL-3 lab being proposed for being at the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Lab.
02:25:55.000So already you have a sort of facility that is already operating because it's a weapons lab under a very, you know, secret type of jurisdiction.
02:26:09.000Well yeah, that's why many of the local community groups in our own area are the really Excellent work of Mary Leah Kelly and Tri-Valley Cares and parallel work with Jay Coughlin and his group at the Los Alamos labs have been very important in terms of challenging the siting of such labs.
02:26:28.000In fact, I refer the listeners to an excellent article called, basically, Bugs and Bombs, which talks about this particular problem.
02:26:38.000That was published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists last fall, I believe, the September issue.
02:26:44.000But, sir, doctor, you know, then we have a debate about where to put them, so they put them out in Montana.
02:26:49.000Bottom line, these, I mean, as I've read the evidence and you've talked about it, these are really also offensive dual-use labs.
02:26:56.000I mean, as the Baltimore Sun sent thousands of gallons of liquid death... Right.
02:27:01.000And the people in Montana, who have been opposing Mary Wolf and her group out there, Have been opposing, righteously, the plans to put it out in a rural area, where if there were an accident, is a place which is very underserved in terms of physicians and hospitals, so the capacity for something escaping and causing havoc there is also of concern, even though it's not a populated area.
02:27:28.000Spreading and not being recognized by an expert.
02:27:31.000I mean, these are the same, you know, just last week, as came out in the press, Somebody working on the lab facilities in the area contracted Salmonella from actual work.
02:27:44.000So again, illustrating, I mean, coming down with Salmonella doesn't pose the public health threat that, say, a super virus or something else that would be developed would.
02:27:55.000But the point is, people do medicines.
02:27:57.000It indicates the problems that are inherent in this type of work.
02:28:03.000You know, you talk about treaties, the UN.
02:28:06.000The UN is hopelessly corrupt and controlled by the same military-industrial complex, but certainly we should have treaties between countries, sanctions against countries by other countries that don't.
02:28:16.000But I mean, our government doesn't even follow the treaties it signs on to, but then will attack countries that refuse to sign on to treaties.
02:28:24.000And as well, unfortunately, in terms of the strategic policies of our own country and this administration, as opposed to doing the necessary things to control the weapons at the international level, such as having a stronger Biological Weapons Convention, Instead, we're going ahead with, under the policies of, quote-unquote, counter-proliferation, justifying the development of a whole new generation of nuclear weapons to supposedly take out hardened command posts and hardened facilities.
02:28:58.000This threatens a whole new generation of nuclear weapons proliferation, supposedly, in this case, to control biological and chemical weapons, but actually More than, you know, this itself poses a severe threat.
02:29:14.000We can just see from the relatively recent revelations of the ability of the Pakistani program under Dr. Khan to basically have brochures to spread nuclear technology.
02:29:27.000By the way, Bush ordered the FBI not to investigate that two years ago.
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02:33:29.000And we've had on their representatives, their experts many times, breaking major news report after major news report.
02:33:34.000I was even unaware until this morning when I saw it, that they had finally gotten the map from the feds of where they're going to put all these nasty facilities.
02:33:41.000And a lot of them are already up and running in existing facilities, like right here in Texas.
02:33:51.000Every couple of months I hear about a lab person dying, getting sick, somewhere in the western world or in Russia, in the lower level labs and in the high level labs.
02:34:00.000And we never hear about what happens deep in the bowels of what they would call, what do they call above level 4?
02:34:06.000We know there's all these giant black budget projects, and that's the majority of bioweapons activities.
02:34:12.000Doctor, I mean, speculating here, Dr. Robert Gould, San Francisco Bay, President of Physicians for Social Responsibility.
02:34:21.000I mean, from your contacts, from other pathologists, from other scientists, I mean, can you give us any inkling?
02:34:26.000We know tens of billions of dollars every decade is covertly spent in these labs, but I mean, can you tell us anything of the dark side of things?
02:34:34.000I mean, what they admit is bad enough, but can you tell us any of the other info?
02:34:39.000Well, I think we've laid out some of the projects that have been divulged over the last number of years, such as the ones at the Port and Downs, such as the mousepox that was synthesized in Australia.
02:34:54.000All that we know of is BSL-4, which is pretty high enough in terms of the dangerous work that they're entertaining doing there.
02:35:05.000So, you know, these technologies have not been with us for a long time, but already over the last number of years, the advances in biotechnology and genetic engineering, these, you know, presage significant capabilities for offensive arms, and that's what we're really facing right now.
02:35:25.000Well, I have to tell you, doctor, that I've talked to people who work for IBM and others And they'll just, scientists and others, they'll just laugh at you and go, there's no such thing as an unnatural mutation.
02:35:37.000Because they're all making money out of it.
02:35:40.000That's the sort of arrogance and outright hubris that you receive from people who are not really being honest about What the nature of their work is, and from our standpoint, not really taking moral and ethical responsibility for whatever their work is, and for whatever they're getting paid for.
02:35:55.000Well, on the Kapchenko, or however you pronounce it, peninsula, I mean, they had cases where they release anthrax on accident and kill hundreds of people around in the town.
02:36:04.000I mean, we had Chernobyl blow up and thousands of square miles were unlivable.
02:36:12.000Well, they're not thinking from a global standpoint of what the effects of their work is.
02:36:19.000I mean, we have 50 years of nuclear weapons work that already has taken an incredible toll over the Over 600,000 people who worked in the various atomic energy labs and Department of Energy labs.
02:36:33.000I mean, you can think more locally where you're at in terms of the exposures to Pantex workers.
02:36:38.000We have everybody from uranium miners who are exposed to digging the uranium for nuclear weapons to those who work at places like Rocky Flats where plutonium is in the ducts.
02:36:49.000Our government has unfortunately been Very cavalier with this type of weapons work since the dawn of the Cold War.
02:36:58.000We have millions of people around the world who are exposed to nuclear testing with effects that have been documented by the National Cancer Institute in terms of their effects on their thyroid, including increased incidence of thyroid cancer and that's only with one of the radioactive elements, a radioactive iodine.
02:37:19.000Frankly, I'm not as scared of the radioactive stuff which I am concerned about as this bio situation.
02:37:23.000I mean, it's not just America either, it's the rest of the world that's racing ahead at a geometric growth curve.
02:37:31.000We have to look at all of these advanced technologies and we have to fondly look at our world as You know, we can't construct in any one country the sort of defensive type of position that really is this absurd situation of a, you know, like a gated community.
02:37:50.000The fact is that, particularly when we're talking about the biological agents, they can cross boundaries, they can get in airplanes.
02:37:58.000I mean, we are one interconnected world.
02:38:01.000So to think that we could just set up a vaccination program here in the United States, even from those who would say be well-motivated to protect us against disease this is the larger point that we have to have the strongest possible international controls and the other thing is you know we're spending an inordinate amount of money and a lot of it again going to the biotech and pharmaceutical companies who undermine the treaty for these high-end projects which really don't touch the major problems that the world is facing I would submit that when we're thinking about real problems that are on our agenda such as impending global climate change
02:38:34.000that many organizations and many panels of experts who have studied this over the course
02:38:42.000of the last decade have indicated that we're likely to face a much greater disease burden
02:38:48.000from the impact of climate change because many diseases that up until now have been
02:38:53.000confined to tropical areas are likely to spread as the climate change and we're probably seeing
02:38:58.000the first evidence of that, for example, with the West Nile virus.
02:39:03.000It's been predicted by the World Health Organization that by the end of the century even with the lower levels of anticipated climate change that the world burden of malaria We'll go from somewhere it is presently at about the 500 million people getting malaria to close to 600 million.
02:39:22.000They're also saying that drug immune, not just resistant, but drug immune TB is going to kill hundreds of millions.
02:39:30.000One third of the world's population is infected with tuberculosis.
02:39:34.000That doesn't mean they have the disease.
02:39:36.000But particularly when our government was spending before 9-11 Ten billion dollars a year on counter-terrorism programs.
02:39:46.000That same amount of money, or a little bit more, per year could, as the United Nations and the World Health Organization have indicated, Would be what we would need to deal with the global AIDS burden.
02:39:58.000And it's within that global AIDS population that tuberculosis festers and particularly antibiotic resistant tuberculosis.
02:40:08.000So for a fraction of the amount of money that we're dealing with high-end programs that themselves are extremely dangerous, we can do a lot more to deal with diseases that really matter and are here and threatening us right now.
02:40:24.000It's owned and run by the same military-industrial complex that owns Big Pharma.
02:40:28.000Big Pharma doesn't mind if all this stuff spreads and gets bad, because then they get to treat it and make 50 times the money off of prevention and ending it.
02:40:37.000The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs we have on the streets.
02:40:39.000Well, you know, I totally understand that, and that's been the record.
02:40:42.000But, you know, I understand your concerns about the United Nations, but it does... I would just say that the only hope that we have is building strong international institutions that can actually deal with these issues as a matter of human survival.
02:40:59.000I started this broadcast two plus hours ago.
02:41:05.000Okay, saying that this is the argument of a lot of well-meaning professors and scientists and others is we've got to have this global government to stop the proliferation of these weapons of mass destruction.
02:41:18.000A rogue country is going to make a bioweapon that will kill tens of millions of people.
02:41:22.000And it's only going to be worse in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.
02:41:26.000I mean, you know, this stuff is just all over the place.
02:41:29.000But then I look at who founded the UN, who runs it.
02:41:32.000The UN is too busy bed-rigging oil contracts.
02:41:35.000It's owned by the same just arrogant elitist that own and run this country.
02:41:41.000And so all I'm saying is, is that what are other models of countries, you know, working with other countries?
02:42:04.000And if we have problems right now with the current influences that don't allow the United Nations or other international organizations to do the job that they really need to do, then we have to think of ways to make them accountable to us and the world community.
02:42:19.000But we really can't deal with these things on just a national basis because Yeah, you know, if we're talking about infectious disease or the problem of emerging and re-emerging infectious diseases that are in place, things like tuberculosis, malaria, we need to have global solutions.
02:42:34.000So I'm not in any way, I believe, I'm not being naive about those issues, but from the standpoint of being a physician, from the standpoint of thinking about health as a global problem, We have to come up with creative solutions, and that's the job for us to put our heads together, to figure out ways to do that.
02:42:53.000Well, I think the name of the organization, Positions for Social Responsibility, means being socially responsible means you're informed, and so that's what we're trying to do here, and I appreciate you coming on.
02:43:04.000You've got such arrogant people in ivory towers, whether it's the UN or Paris or London or New York, Such arrogant people in these ivory towers.
02:43:25.000And I'm not trying to be negative here, but I've talked to a lot of scientists and people, and they say that there is a greater chance of a massive, deadly viral release that will kill hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of millions, than there's a chance of us somehow coming up with a way to stop this.
02:43:40.000Well, I can't deny, Alex, that things are pretty grim if we're looking at the situation in the world.
02:43:51.000$400 billion on our military budget, $125 billion supplemental for Iraq and Afghanistan, when that money could be so much better used to deal with these types of threats and finding the ways to deal with it, you know, at a fraction of that.
02:44:04.000Well, before 9-11, they had tens of millions for terror funding.
02:44:07.000I remember scientists complaining, you know, you spend 2% of the anti-terror money on scientists and studies, and you spend 98% on, you know, police and black ski masks.
02:44:23.000I think we may disagree with what the possibilities are out there.
02:44:27.000I hope that I'm not coming across in any way naive about what the blocks there are to make a difference.
02:44:36.000But nonetheless, I think we do need to be very clear that if we're talking about global public health and environmental issues that have to get solved, At a global level, we have to deal with new and creative ways of dealing with this.
02:44:52.000I'm just trying to state just how bad it really is so people can, I mean, not you, but so others can get out of denial.
02:44:58.000Because I love my family, Doctor, and I see this as one of the greatest threats to our future.
02:45:04.000Well, you're absolutely right, and I would just say that, particularly for folks in Texas, There should be plenty of heat on what's going on at the University of Texas in terms of their plans for facilities like this.
02:45:17.000Those folks should not be allowed to conduct these operations in secret.
02:45:21.000It's our right to know what goes on there, not only for the whole range of issues.
02:45:28.000People's local health in terms of similar type of accidents that we're seeing in the case of this anthrax dissemination, as well as the larger issues of We as citizens of our country
02:45:43.000Being basically exposed to the dangers of a biological weapons race.
02:46:16.000National Physicians for Social Responsibility, of which I was president of our national organization last year, is an organization of 30,000 health professionals, including numerous physicians as part of that, physicians and health professionals, and our website is www.psr.org.
02:46:36.000And we have a great deal of information on our website in terms of the global challenges facing us, not only from the various weapons of mass destruction, but also in terms of many of the issues that I was addressing today in terms of threats posed by climate change.
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02:54:27.000The real world is exciting, dynamic, terrifying, invigorating when you fight back against the corruption.
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02:55:36.000You know, here I am talking with this top scientist, head of a major hospital, by the way, I didn't get into that.
02:55:43.000You know, oh, the half spider goats, oh yes, you know, it's a big problem.
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