The election could be postponed in the event of a terror attack. Conspiracy theories are rampant in the mainstream media and Homeland Security is keeping us awake at night with fear-mongering about the possibility of another attack on the United States. Could this be another 9/11?
00:00:46.000We'll be live for the next three hours.
00:00:48.000Joining us here in a few minutes is Bev Harris of Black Box Voting.
00:00:53.000One of the most informed and active voices out there exposing the government takeover of the elections, the total fraud, up one side and down the other.
00:01:55.000Newsweek calls this their exclusive Election Day worries.
00:02:00.000American counter-terrorism officials citing what they call alarming intelligence about a possible Al-Cieda strike inside the United States this fall are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack.
00:02:23.000And InfoWars.com wrote this this morning above the Newsweek story Fear-mongering and conditioning for total control, terror, martial law, and the end of the Constitution.
00:02:38.000More news today about terror and the elections.
00:02:40.000This time, we're being warned that the election could be postponed in the event of a terror attack.
00:02:46.000At the beginning of the month, we were warned that they might be cancelled outright.
00:02:50.000Every comment is a hyperlink to a mainstream story.
00:02:53.000Again, at the beginning of the month, we were warned that they might be cancelled outright.
00:02:58.000This is not to mention Homeland Security's ongoing fear-mongering that a horrible attack is being aimed at the elections.
00:03:05.000Of course, they can't give us any specifics, as we might find out about what their agents are planning to do.
00:03:09.000Can't let Homeland Security get caught.
00:03:12.000Across the news wires, the administration is letting us know that security is being vamped up in fear of a terrible attack.
00:03:20.000We all know who stands to gain from such a horrific event.
00:03:24.000We are being conditioned by this fear to accept the New World Order police state the globalist overlords will offer us should they proceed and orchestrate another horrible attack.
00:03:48.000Don't forget Tommy Franks, the General, in his December 2003 interview with Cigar Aficionado Magazine stating that, Massive, casually producing events might cause our population to question our own Constitution and begin to militarize our country.
00:04:04.000You can read the Tommy Franks martial law will replace Constitution after next terror attack.
00:04:10.000Don't forget the Hegelian dialectic of problem or the action solution has been played out by power crazy dictators many many times throughout history and also see 9-11 the road to tyranny for examples.
00:04:22.000Then we get into the election day worries.
00:04:27.000Where they get into the latest issue of Newsweek telling us basically give up all your rights and the new homeland will keep you safe.
00:04:37.000Alright, we'll talk about the CIA and voting systems and the takeover of that and how people are fighting back nationwide right here deep in the heart of Texas.
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00:07:55.000David Icke is joining us here in about 25 minutes from now.
00:08:01.000he's the t-rex of political talk alex jones on the gcn radio network
00:08:11.000folks it is monday that i thought it was about twenty five minutes from now
00:08:18.000it is so transparent to see governor ridge on television in front of all the
00:08:24.000video screens hooked into the cameras on the street corners but the big thing the command bunker
00:08:32.000laughing and smiling and telling us how the terrorist are going to get us for
00:08:36.000sure but they don't have any specifics and all that i have to suspend or
00:09:49.000mulling how to delay November vote in case of attack or suspend it.
00:09:54.000A senior House Democratic lawmaker was skeptical on Sunday of a Bush administration idea to obtain the authority to delay the November presidential election in case of an attack by Al Qaeda.
00:10:05.000counterterrorism officials are looking at an emergency proposal on the legal steps needed to postpone the presidential election in case of such an attack, Newsweek reported on Sunday.
00:10:14.000Oh, you really broke the story we've been covering for years.
00:10:17.000I think it's excessive based on what we know as Representative Jane Harmon of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, in an interview on CNN's Late Edition.
00:10:27.000Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned last week that Osama Bin Laden, that's Bush's business partner, As Al-Syed, his network head, want to attack within the United States to try to disrupt the election.
00:10:40.000They talk about Spain, which was clearly a Spanish government operation.
00:10:47.000Look at who stands to gain from all of this.
00:10:49.000Then look at the actual, clear, physical evidence of 9-11 in Oklahoma City and the first World Trade Center bombing, where the FBI cooked the bomb and trained the driver.
00:11:01.000Joining us from here in Austin, Texas is Bev Harris.
00:11:05.000We've had her on the broadcast many, many times, and she's shaken the foundations of this criminal movement to steal our right to vote in our republic.
00:11:14.000She's going to be at the Capitol tomorrow with a press conference, and she's going to be bringing forward information to the Secretary of State and others about the situation in Texas and all over the country, and we're honored to have her with us.
00:11:32.000Tell us, just for those who just joined us, in a nutshell, what's wrong with these electronic voting systems and then why you're here in Austin and how folks can get involved.
00:11:43.000Well, actually we're doing a 14-state tour.
00:11:46.000We got the funding, and obviously we are still looking for funding, but we got the seed funding to start a non-profit publicly funded consumer protection group for elections.
00:11:57.000And we are on a 14-state investigative tour.
00:12:00.000We're spending quite a bit of time in Texas, as you can imagine.
00:12:05.000And we will be also doing the press conference tomorrow in conjunction with the events on electronic voting down there at the state capitol.
00:12:16.000And I've got a fundraiser tomorrow night, too.
00:14:21.000And some of the people running these voting machine companies, former CI directors, former deputy directors, you've gotten in on these internal meetings and discussions where they're going, we can't let anybody know we're doing this, it could be considered racketeering.
00:14:53.000I mean, it's one problem compounding on top of another on top of another and it really is kind of Bizarre, and it makes you want... you know there has to be more to it.
00:15:05.000Well, why do we have Ben Harris not having to do this?
00:15:08.000Because the League of Women Voters has been publicly saying they don't want an audit trail, they don't want a record, but we send people to oversee and audit third world countries that have paper ballots, but here in America, if you want to know how something's working or be able to have a recount, why, you're crazy!
00:15:25.000Well, and understand, one of the things, too, I find very interesting is Black Box Voting, which is our group, we set up something where we have about 2,000 people who will be monitoring the machines to catch them in the act of miscounting and phone it into a hotline.
00:15:38.000We're not really revealing how we're doing it, but we've got a plan there.
00:15:42.000Well, interestingly enough, the same guy that's out there saying we need to try to cancel elections was also speaking out against monitoring elections.
00:15:51.000What possible reason could there be for the head of the Election Assistance Commission to say, I don't think it's a good idea to have election monitors?
00:15:59.000And then last week he told the Associated Press, we may need to cancel the elections or push them off, Bev.
00:16:05.000And then on top of this, they're saying they're going to have Homeland Security at the polls, I guess, to make sure the fraud goes by nicely.
00:16:13.000Well, and I'm glad you brought up this business about canceling or postponement.
00:16:17.000This is something we've got to nip in the bud.
00:16:19.000Let me tell you what, Americans, this is a plan B. The plan B is paper, ballot, pencil, day off to count the votes.
00:16:26.000There's a plan B. Canceling the election is not a plan B.
00:16:31.000That is just simply giving away democracy over fear.
00:17:35.000Well, Forrest D'Souza, who runs this new thing now, which was appointed by the President, he runs this new agency called the Election Assistance Commission and basically it seems to be the opposite.
00:17:48.000He's talking about how to cancel elections And this is what the CIA has done in more than 50 other countries, going in, scamming elections, canceling elections, and now they're just running the CIA off on America!
00:18:03.000Well, you know, the funny thing is, they brought in, think about this, they had a bunch of election officials, a small handful, who pushed these unauditable voting machines into every county in America that they could.
00:18:17.000These people pushed a flawed system, and we now know that.
00:18:20.000The same people that did that are the same people that got appointed to this new commission.
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00:23:56.000Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central, back from 9 to midnight, David Icke is coming up
00:24:15.000and Bev Harris has agreed that the last 30 minutes of the show today, the broadcast, to
00:24:20.000come back on so we can have some more time with her.
00:24:29.000And she's here to promote a press conference she and others are having at the Capitol tomorrow and a meeting they're having.
00:24:37.000In the next few days, you're going to hear some major developments from what she's discovered here in Central Texas, but she can't bring that out right now at this time until, well, let's just say, again, she's broken.
00:24:49.000I don't know, hundreds of major bombshell stories.
00:24:53.000And this new stuff, I talked to her about it during the break, is dynamite.
00:24:58.000Just catching these people red-handed.
00:25:01.000Bev, again, here in just the last few minutes with you, tell folks about the press conference right when the show starts tomorrow, actually, so I can't be there, at 11 a.m.
00:25:11.000at the Capitol, how folks should come to that rally inside the Capitol, and then the meeting tomorrow night, how folks get involved in that.
00:25:19.000Yeah, get over there, because you know what they do.
00:25:21.000You want the TV cameras to... They'll try to minimize the size of the crowd, so maximize it.
00:25:52.000By the way, I wanted to mention real quickly something kind of ironic.
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00:26:00.000I am suing Diebold for, oh, you know, $40 million or so on behalf of the state of California to force Diebold to pay restitution.
00:26:10.000But the kicker in this lawsuit is It's a whistleblower lawsuit that has a bounty, and if that part of it prevails, it will actually fund my organization.
00:26:21.000So you would have people funding their archenemy.
00:26:36.000It's in the Rotunda of the Capitol at 11 a.m.
00:26:39.000tomorrow, and then when I come back on at 1.30, I have to tell you I've been on the road and doing investigations so much I don't even know where my own fundraiser is.
00:26:46.000I will go and check that and have that information for you.
00:26:49.000Well, that's going to be at the Unitarian Church.
00:26:52.000I think they said from what, seven until ten or something?
00:26:58.000I heard it being announced on the radio.
00:27:00.000We can really get into the details of what's going on and I gotta tell ya, we have two full-time investigators and we have been out there getting all kinds of new information that nobody not even Nobody's been able to get.
00:27:15.000Okay, everybody by like 1045 should get to the Capitol tomorrow.
00:27:35.000I mean, if you don't for this, what will you do it for?
00:27:38.000And go in there, and you're going to be bringing forward your evidence.
00:27:41.000Of course, I heard of the Secretary of State.
00:27:43.000And then tomorrow night, and when you're on in the third hour with us, you can give us the directions and the actual time.
00:27:50.000I know it's tomorrow at the Unitarian Church here in Austin, Texas.
00:27:55.000And then later this week, we're going to have you on.
00:27:59.000Once you're out of town, you can give us the developments of the dark issue uncovered here in Austin.
00:28:04.000Oh, I have to tell you, these things are going to keep developing throughout the month.
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00:28:53.000I was in Canton, Ohio talking to Diebold employees, and Diebold would hate this if they knew how many are talking to me, but... Bev, are you there?
00:29:04.000The Diebold employees don't even know!
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00:33:38.000I tell you, we're free if in our minds we believe we're free, ladies and gentlemen.
00:33:43.000So much of this cage they've built, the announcements of plans to suspend the election, martial law being good, the good guys wear black ski masks, they're here to save you, don't ask questions, it's treason to criticize the government.
00:33:59.000If you buy into that psychological, spiritual cage, then you will be a slave.
00:34:03.000But with God's help, we can't expose this new world order system.
00:34:08.000All right, here in about a minute or two, we'll have David Eickhup with us, and we're going to talk about who David Eickhup is, and what he thinks of this discussion of suspending the election.
00:34:16.000We know they've been gearing up for martial law for a long time, and this is all part of the acclamation process.
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00:37:19.000It's very hard for me to sit up there and watch Ridge in front of his TV screens, fear-mongering, talking about canceling elections, saying the terrorists are going to hit us, and knowing that they are the perpetrators.
00:37:30.000I mean, it's hard to watch, you know, Ted Bundy sit up there on TV and talk about how he's saving all these women when we know he does the opposite.
00:38:29.000Why are they now having to reveal more than they ever revealed before at such an accelerated rate?
00:38:36.000Well, I think it's something I've been talking about for a long time, which is when something's remained hidden, but wishes to bring about a certain restructuring of society.
00:38:49.000A restructuring that we can see, touch and taste.
00:38:52.000There is obviously a point, a window of time when all that's remained hidden starts to hit the surface because it's being put into place in front of our eyes.
00:39:02.000So this has been going on for a very, very long time.
00:39:06.000Manipulating behind the scenes to bring about this restructuring and now it's manifesting.
00:39:12.000Since 9-11, of course, it has expanded and advanced very rapidly.
00:39:19.000And now they're looking in the next few years to put this world global fascist Orwellian state into place and therefore as they've reached that stage in their journey we have to see it and we are seeing it and this is not why now what you and me have been talking about all these years and other people too is no longer sometime never somewhere over some dark rainbow Watch out, this is coming if we're not careful.
00:39:45.000Big Brother is in our face because it's reaching the point in its time scale where it wishes to introduce what it's been working towards for so long.
00:40:14.000They've got the bills introduced for a draft, they're announcing they want a draft, but then when we criticize it, they say it doesn't exist.
00:40:22.000That tactic of double-think, where they announce it, then when we criticize it, we're crazy and it doesn't exist.
00:40:32.000Well, we are at this strange fork in the road, Alex, where People are now being given a very blatant choice which road they want to take because it's becoming so blatant that people like you and me, as I say, have been saying these things are coming and now having an ever greater credibility because those things are here.
00:40:59.000And so people are now at a point where they cannot hide from this anymore.
00:41:04.000They can't say, oh, that's just a theory.
00:41:25.000Well, when you talk about the power of the Skull and Bone Society over the years, and then you find that the two candidates for the coming election are both initiates of a secret society that has relatively A tiny membership, compared with the 270, 80 million people in America, a country which we're told anyone can become president in, and yet this small elite secret society has produced both candidates.
00:41:49.000When you see the basic freedoms being taken away, in America and my own country too, when you see the legislation for the draft is there, and of course not only the legislation for the draft, But the clear necessity of it, when you look at the agenda outlined by the Project for the Euro-American Century, the creators and authors of which have run the Bush administration since it came to power, it talks about the need to have America fight and win simultaneous major theatres of war as a core mission.
00:42:26.000It's very clear there are not enough people in uniform Voluntarily to carry that out.
00:42:32.000So what does that lead us to understand?
00:42:34.000They're going to have to introduce the draft.
00:42:36.000Never mind the legislations there to be seen.
00:42:39.000That's an obvious follow on from following that agenda.
00:42:43.000They're going to need people forcibly in the military.
00:42:47.000So when you've got all these things happening now, and it's much easier, I've found in my own experience, to get people to see what's going on because you can point it out happening in
00:43:00.000front of their eyes which is why this window of time we're in now
00:43:04.000is absolutely crucial to stopping the doors being closed on freedom because people
00:43:11.000can now see it happening in front of their eyes. My own experience
00:43:15.000is that the number of people waking up is vastly increasing.
00:43:31.000And what's really, really encouraging, and you'll have found this too, Alex, is when you put people who have had no background of Researching this, in front of this information, and it's presented in a logical way, where A leads to B leads to C, you can see their minds open.
00:43:52.000And there's a number of people, a significant number of people in Los Angeles, who knew nothing of this, who'd been brought by people who'd been researching it and just said, just watch it.
00:44:05.000So the only thing that's stopping us being even more successful in bringing this I'm really glad that Michael Moore movies out there because it is showing large numbers of people that they're being lied to on one level.
00:44:25.000But I have to say, you know, and having been involved in this all these years, it did depress me a little bit that such a massive opportunity was lost in getting over what's really happening Yeah, he only gives... Because I've seen that if people are put in front of it, and it's done in a logical, coordinated way, that the world suddenly makes sense to people as it never has before.
00:44:48.000Well, David, look, I agree with you, and I tell this story every week because it's the best news I have from the front lines of the information war.
00:44:56.000I've done Over 1600 radio interviews since September 11th.
00:45:01.000I would imagine you've done hundreds or even thousands as well, I'm not sure.
00:45:04.000But I do 3-4 interviews a day most days.
00:45:08.000And 5-6 years ago, half the callers to shows disagreed with me to my own show.
00:45:13.000But on my own broadcast, but not just my own broadcast, on other liberal, conservative, Christian, Libertarian shows.
00:45:21.000We'll go two hours and maybe one person calls in that disagrees out of thirty callers and they're incoherent and hateful.
00:45:30.000I don't mean a partial shift, a total shift and that's got to be panicking the globalists but that means that even if their plans behind schedule and they've got problems, I now see them pulling out all the stops trying to rampage, accelerate their program The consequences be damned, as they say, into this new world order, which is dangerous for globalists and for those of us fighting them.
00:45:55.000So let me ask you, what do you see them doing in the next five months?
00:46:30.000But in terms of the awakening, starting to panic these people, that's absolutely right.
00:46:38.000I feel a sense of panic, a sense of, we must get this through, we must get this structure in place, because otherwise we're going to run out of time because these people are waking up.
00:46:49.000And I do feel that a lot of the stuff that's happening now is coming from a position of panic and desperation, which means they're going to make mistakes.
00:46:59.000And they're making a heck of a lot of mistakes.
00:47:01.000I mean, people are only going to look into the official story of 9-11 on a really basic level to say that it's an insult to the intelligence that could possibly have happened.
00:47:12.000David, their official story is impossible and we've proven every step of their official story to be a fraud.
00:47:19.000There isn't a jury that was honest when presented with our evidence that would not convict the military industrial complex of carrying out 9-11.
00:47:28.000You know, you can corner a rat and that's when a rat will panic and it will flash out at you.
00:47:36.000And so, in terms of this Illuminati agenda, I can see panic measures, atrocities, to be blamed on terrorist groups, which at the very least are nothing like as massive and organized as they claim to be.
00:47:55.000And, you know, when you hear things like we want to suspend the election if there is a terrorist attack, you have people like Tommy Franks, of course, a Bush family friend who was heavily involved in the invasion of Iraq, who said publicly a few months ago that if ever there was a chemical, biological attack on America, there would have to be military government to cope with it.
00:48:20.000So clearly this problem reaction solution technique that they use is going to be used with serious consequences in the months ahead because if they don't try to panic people out of their present and increasing skepticism with those in authority then their whole agenda is going to collapse.
00:48:44.000We have a situation now in In America, where more and more people are beginning to open their minds to the Bush administration, it's... I mean, you know when it's lying, because its lips are moving.
00:48:56.000And somehow, we have this big thing in Iraq, with all these soldiers dying, and civilians dying, and all this stuff, and to be fair, Michael Moore's movie has brought that more to public attention, the consequences of that war.
00:49:12.000And so, unless They come up with more versions of 9-11 to try to change public opinion in favour of, we must do something about terrorism, then this whole agenda is going to stop because of skepticism.
00:49:28.000And of course in Britain, well crikey, try to find someone in Britain now that believes a word that Tony Blair says.
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00:55:55.000And they say they're going to do this to you.
00:55:57.000And a lot of people in the system know this is true now, but out of fear, have decided to join this.
00:56:02.000David Icke, we're not just dealing with ignorant people in self-denial and in willful ignorance because they're subconsciously afraid of the truth, because everybody knows the truth.
00:56:12.000Everybody listening to me knows this is true.
00:56:14.000In your guts, in your soul, and in the facts when you look at it, intellectually, it's true.
00:56:18.000At every level of your mind and soul, you know it's true.
00:56:21.000You can try to deny it, but many people I found, David, decide to join this because they are afraid of it, because they think they'll be safe.
00:56:30.000What would you say to those millions of people who know this is true, but have decided to join it, David?
00:56:36.000Well, first of all, you're absolutely right.
00:56:39.000The four-letter word that is behind all this is fear.
00:56:49.000Because people who are in fear of something invariably look outside of themselves for someone to protect them from what they've been manipulated to fear.
00:56:56.000So fear is what they want to get us in.
00:56:59.000And they do not understand, because of their mentality, people who are not in fear.
00:57:03.000And so they can't understand mavericks.
00:57:08.000They don't know how to deal with them.
00:57:09.000People who will say things fearlessly because, you know, these different levels of this Illuminati are terrified of each other because of the consequences from the level above of not doing what they're told to do.
00:57:23.000They are an edifice, a pyramid of fear which uses fear to manipulate the global population.
00:57:31.000What I would say to people who think that through fear they will join them and that
00:57:35.000will be fine is they will use you for as long as necessary and then you will be in the camps
00:57:40.000as well because they use the people that are useful to them for as long as they are useful
00:57:48.000to them and then they just become surplus to requirements and become the same as everyone
00:58:09.000And an example is, they've now not charged one, but three different people in Iraq and Afghanistan, torture masters they hired to go over there.
00:58:17.000They're now charging them with the Patriot Act, so they can't speak out, and can't have public trials, and can't have lawyers, so they can't say, hey, I was ordered to do this.
00:58:29.000What they do is use people for as long as possible, as long as necessary, and then if it suits them to do something else, they'll do the opposite.
00:58:37.000The key is this, the agenda, that people say that this whole thing's a conspiracy.
01:00:04.000Once you let fear pass over you and through you, and put it in God's hands, and commit yourself to not, you know, the instinct of fear is still there.
01:00:15.000You just I mean, it actually gives me a warming effect.
01:00:19.000I'm just not worried about it because I realize intellectually and spiritually that fighting evil is the only course.
01:00:26.000When you give in to it, it gets bigger and bigger and worse and worse.
01:00:50.000Well, what I would say to people is when you come to the end of this little journey on earth, when you look back at your life, how would you feel about yourself?
01:01:02.000Will you feel good that you kept your head down and your mouth shut because you allowed a few crackpots to frighten you into submission and subservience?
01:01:12.000Will that make you feel good about what you've done or will you feel good if you know that You didn't succumb to fear.
01:01:20.000You let justice be the guide for what you did and didn't do and what you did say and didn't say.
01:01:25.000And that you stood up and campaigned for justice for all people and freedom for all people.
01:01:38.000Are we going to go through our lives and then be desperately disappointed about what we've done or are we going to be really, really You know, I'm delighted with the way we reacted.
01:01:49.000That's the fork in the road I talked about earlier.
01:01:52.000We can keep our heads down and we can be good citizens of the global fascist Orwellian state.
01:01:59.000It might save us from a few knocks on the door that other people get and all that stuff in the long term.
01:02:05.000Or, we can go down the other road and make sure there are no knocks on the door for anyone by exposing this.
01:02:13.000Get the information that it exists out to vast numbers of people because it is the secrecy, the non-awareness through this period that this whole stuff is going on that has allowed it to reach this stage.
01:02:28.000We now have an opportunity to inform people.
01:02:31.000Because, at the peak of this pyramid of manipulation, there are a tiny number of people, tiny compared with the global population.
01:02:41.000They can only do this to us if we acquiesce with the building of our own prisons.
01:02:49.000Now we have the opportunity, and we can't claim ignorance any longer, to actually start dismantling these prisons and start uh... reaching a point where these tiny few are no longer dictating the lives of billions and that means letting go of fear and I'll say this from my own experience fearing something uh... is far more uh... an ordeal far more terrifying than actually doing it uh... people say to me, oh you must have lots of courage doing what you're doing
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01:07:38.000But there's a lot I want to talk about with David Icke.
01:07:41.000David, it's important that we discuss the false left-right paradigm or this false bipolar world.
01:07:51.000They give us the illusion internationally that it's America versus Russia, or now the EU versus the American Union, or Bush versus Kerry.
01:08:00.000But then even a cursory view shows that there's no real separation, but they need to give us that illusion of separation to get us psychologically to put ourselves mentally into one of the two camps to then freeze out any debate.
01:08:16.000And an example of this is Three or four years ago, I saw globalist think-tank white papers that are declassified public stuff, where they say, look, the people are waking up that there's a world government.
01:08:28.000So we've got to give them a fake choice.
01:08:30.000They even say this, and this is in my film Police State 3, the documents, we need to give them a choice between a liberal world government and a conservative world government.
01:08:41.000And so, America goes in as the bad cop, Kind of like the Soviets were in the last half of the last century.
01:09:18.000And how to get people out of this tribal Republican-Democrat, Tory-Labor, EU-US mentality?
01:09:26.000How do we get people past that to a freedom versus slavery paradigm?
01:09:32.000Well, I think a lot of people are past it without realising it, because the number of times you hear people say, it doesn't matter who gets in, nothing changes, exactly.
01:09:43.000So let's take that a stage further and ask the question, why, no matter who gets in, does nothing change?
01:09:50.000Except, you quite rightly say, the rhetoric.
01:09:53.000It's because when you are in a one-party state, and you know you're in a one-party state, then you can see
01:09:59.000the bars on the prison cell and therefore you feel the need to get out of the cell.
01:10:05.000If you sit there and you can't see the bars, which is what this Illuminati wants,
01:10:10.000then you'll sit there not realizing you're in a prison cell.
01:10:13.000You'll have the illusion that any time you choose, you can go wherever you like
01:10:59.000If you take the American or the British version, it's definitely two.
01:11:03.000So what they do, the party that is in Power has the chance to change through legislation society to advance the agenda for the Orwellian state.
01:11:44.000And it does things that in opposition it said it would never do and was supposedly against.
01:11:50.000The party that was introducing the Orwellian state in government is now the opposition, does not have the power to do so, so it now opposes that other party that is bringing in the Orwellian state.
01:12:03.000So you have this And other policies too.
01:12:06.000So this is why, as people who say nothing ever changes, no matter who gets in, have seen, that the common denominator is, whichever party's in power advances the agenda.
01:12:18.000And this is why, again and again, you'll see parties come into government and then do the opposite of what they said they would do, and indeed do what they opposed in opposition.
01:12:30.000well they don't think it is the illusion of choice and hide the one-party state but this now we're reaching a point
01:12:37.000where people are are paying it and and and i'm a lot more blatant
01:12:40.000the uh... what more blatant example you have been carrying bush members of
01:12:44.000the scum of our society as we discussed earlier okay so now understand folks are wrapped
01:12:51.000will be in a maze and as long as it has lots of twists and turns in multi-levels
01:12:56.000he thinks that his entire universe He thinks he has choices, but they're false choices.
01:13:02.000And so they'll put Bush up there to do all this evil stuff, then we run out the escape hatch, You know, this doorway that says exit to carry, and it's right into the cat's mouth, right into the jaws of the tiger.
01:13:15.000So again, it's left and right hands on this ogre's, you know, this one-eyed Cyclopsian New World Order system.
01:13:21.000And so by seeing that paradigm, by getting outside the rat maze, that's how we get the freedom.
01:13:27.000By exposing and saying, you know, we're against These particular policies, and we know you're all in it together.
01:13:35.000Eighty-plus percent of Americans, Republicans and Democrats, Hispanic, white, black, are against open borders.
01:13:40.000But the Democrats want open borders, so do the Republicans.
01:13:43.000People are against gun control, but Bush says he'll sign the Assault Weapons Ban.
01:13:46.000People are against the UN, but Bush signs on to UNESCO, and now says our troops will be under UN control, and will be charged by the International Criminal Court.
01:13:55.000But then the conservatives all ignore that, but then expose that agenda being promoted by the Democrats, but then people are willfully blind to the Republicans promoting the exact same agenda.
01:14:05.000So, you know, how do we set about changing that, David?
01:14:09.000You know, take these electronic voting machines that are going in, and there's no record of how you vote, riddled with fraud, run by the CIA publicly, and then they say, oh, you're a kook because you want to know how you voted.
01:14:20.000You want to be able to have a recount.
01:14:23.000Well, I think, you know, again we come back to the simple thing of information.
01:14:27.000The Illuminati don't want to control and indeed don't control the mainstream media because they think it's a bit of fun and wouldn't it be great to control the mainstream media?
01:14:36.000They do it because it is fundamental to their operation being in any way successful.
01:14:42.000You have to control What people receive as information because what you're trying to do and what you must do is manipulate and implant a false belief in reality.
01:14:54.000So what must happen and there's only really one way of doing it and that's getting information out that challenges this mainstream monopoly on on what is real and what's happening in the world so that
01:15:08.000people can have another version of events.
01:15:10.000And as I know and you know from experience, like I said earlier, once people have this
01:15:14.000other version of events, they go, Wow! The world suddenly makes sense! Yes!
01:15:20.000So I say to people who are new to this, just take the point of observation that you're living in a one-party
01:15:27.000state, that the techniques of manipulation are to create problems,
01:15:33.000get you to say, do something about the problems and then offer solutions to
01:15:37.000those problems that change society, that advance the Orwellian centralized global state.
01:16:19.000Just like Mel Gibson's aware of the New World Order.
01:16:21.000You know, the Gibson family, who we've talked to.
01:16:24.000But I had a chance to talk to Keanu Reeves while he was here in town working on a project quite a few times.
01:16:31.000And, you know, he watched my film Road to Tyranny, and we talked about it.
01:16:37.000He wouldn't get too much into the Matrix with me, and obviously he was just the actor in it, but clearly the Matrix, the first one's great, the second one's weird, and the third one, there's this deal with the Illuminati, the Illuminati says, okay, you're aware of us, it's going to destroy things, if you don't stop what you're doing, And for those of you that want to be free, we're going to have a truce and leave you alone, but for those of you that want to stay in the Matrix, we're going to have this bipolar, again, this false choice world, and there's a lot of really deep Illuminati messages on the dark side, I would say, in that film, and do you have any comments to that?
01:17:16.000Well, it's one of the areas, Alex, that I've been going into in more recent times very deeply and continue to do so, and that's the nature of reality and how we create it, because that is the foundation of how, en masse, we are being manipulated to create the world, the reality that the Illuminati want.
01:17:38.000It's very clear when you do research into quantum physics and all this other stuff
01:17:43.000about the nature of reality and all that stuff that the people that put the Matrix movies together sure as
01:17:49.000hell know an enormous amount about what's going on even down to the fact that one of the bloodlines, because
01:17:57.000these are family bloodlines the Merovingian bloodline is one of the key Illuminati
01:18:02.000bloodlines and what does the Matrix movie call the gatekeeper in the
01:18:06.000The Merovingian, a French guy, because the Merovingian bloodline came through France
01:18:10.000and is fundamentally one of the key...
01:18:12.000Illuminati bloodlines and one of the things that I've really been looking at and really
01:18:17.000as not just pennies have dropped, whole banking systems have dropped in terms of understanding
01:18:23.000why society is structured as it is, is when you realize how we construct reality and we actually
01:18:29.000do it in our own minds, in our own brains, the computer of the mind.
01:18:34.000But what I didn't realize until I really got into this is that when information enters the eyes, it's in nothing like the form that we think we're looking at around us.
01:18:43.000That only, that's constructed in our mind, and only... Hey, watch, stay there, we got a break.
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01:23:07.000We're going to go to Paul and Tim and Charles and Greg and Randy and others.
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01:23:12.000But I've got a bunch of other questions and comments and discussions with David Eich that I want to go through.
01:23:20.000So we'll take calls and go back into discussion and then go back to calls.
01:23:24.000But each caller has got about a minute or so.
01:23:26.000A question, a comment, something you want to get into with David Eich or myself.
01:23:31.000David, let's go ahead and go to these calls.
01:23:33.000I'd like to come back to what I was saying before the break there, because this is fundamental to how we're manipulated, the way our reality is constructed, by external implantation of our beliefs, and basically we're like a subject on the stage of a stage hypnotist.
01:23:51.000We're having false beliefs put into our minds, largely on a subconscious level, and then we see the world in line with those beliefs, in the same way as someone on a stage can be Manipulated by a hypnotist to see an elephant in the audience, so we can be manipulated to see, you know, terrorists where they're not.
01:24:22.000I really appreciate a lot of your work, and Alex, first I'd like to say, the definition of insanity is a Christian that believes in evolution, that believes in psychics, that believes in UFOs, that believes in reptiles, that believes in wormholes.
01:25:09.000Yeah, it is definitely propaganda, because don't think for a second that the people who are aware that you can read anything into that movie other than more conditioning and manipulation.
01:25:21.000And as Dr. Khalid Mohammed said, not that I'm a follower, but I have heard him speak before, we really want to work with you.
01:25:38.000I'm going to let you go, because I said we've got to be fair to the callers.
01:25:41.000Let me get David Icke's response to what you were saying.
01:25:44.000What I was talking about, sir, is mass conditioning.
01:25:48.000As I've said over and over again, is that that's what the New World Order says, is that we'll see the world's a dangerous place, and we've got to have a world government to keep everybody safe.
01:25:57.000And those of you that are thinking people see this, and we've got to be more ruthless than anybody else, or we'll lose control.
01:26:03.000Obviously, I said that that movie, that third movie, is definitely bad, and has a bad message, and I said that, and then you spun that into something different than what I said, and then you mentioned, you know, Khalid Mohamed, who I've got on video saying horrible stuff.
01:26:19.000You know, I mean, we've got to come together against the New World Order.
01:26:23.000Yeah, when I talk about The Matrix, I'm talking about the first one, which gave an excellent visual portrayal of The illusory world that we live in, and provably live in, when you look at even mainstream science, there's no way that this world is anything but an illusion that we construct in our minds.
01:26:40.000Therefore, if you can control what we believe to be real, you will control what we construct to be real.
01:26:47.000Well, the Bible says we're made in the image of God, and that we're creators.
01:26:54.000The things that people thought up 50 years ago, 100 years ago, we have now developed and created.
01:27:01.000Yeah, but the whole point that needs to get across is that we are constructing the reality we think is real according to our own belief in what is real.
01:27:12.000Therefore, like a stage hypnotist, if you can manipulate people to believe in a certain reality, you will get them to experience that reality because they'll construct it.
01:27:22.000And of course, we have the greatest stage hypnotist on planet Earth in the corner of every room, every living room, the television.
01:27:29.000Which is constantly implanting a false belief in reality.
01:27:51.000In your book, Children in the Matrix, on page 207, you write, and I quote, there was no Jesus.
01:27:57.000And on page 61 you write, Jesus never really existed.
01:28:00.000Then you go on to argue that Jesus was a mythological creation of shape-shifting reptilian lizard people.
01:28:06.000And you want to talk about false impressions?
01:28:08.000While all of Alex Jones' work is based on verifiable facts like the Northwood document, your analysis mixes facts with blasphemous fiction revealing you!
01:28:16.000With satanic motivations you have, you are a fraud, Mr. Ike.
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01:32:10.000By the way, I was going to hold over, but he hung up.
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01:35:38.000And, um, you know, it's just a vehicle for, um, uh, information that people want to get through the mainstream media to, uh, to be, um, to filter and, People look at it and decide what they want to think about it and that's really the point I would make in response to Charles.
01:35:54.000I'm actually glad that he rang up and in a way I'm glad he said what he said because it's a very very important point.
01:36:04.000The foundation of any tyranny is to divide and rule the population.
01:36:09.000To provide fault lines through which you can play off one side against another.
01:36:15.000One belief off against another, one political system off against another, just as they played communism off against so-called capitalism, cartelism in truth, and without telling us that the same force was actually manipulating both sides.
01:36:33.000If we are going to live in a world of true freedom, then there's one fundamental to that, and that is we have to be at peace With other people believing different things to us, so long as they don't seek to impose it on anybody and force them to believe the same.
01:36:50.000That's when the tyrannical stuff comes in.
01:36:54.000Now, the United Nations says they want a one-world religion where you can believe whatever you want as long as you quote, don't impose it, but then they're gonna impose that view.
01:37:03.000Yes, but I'm talking about that without imposition.
01:37:09.000I mean, how can you have freedom If one belief is imposing itself in any way on another, you can't!
01:37:18.000A lot of people can't cope with freedom because they think freedom is the freedom to impose what they believe on other people.
01:37:23.000Well, David, I'm not saying that, but at the same time, you know, they arrest people in Europe now, and even in the U.S., you criticize homosexuality because they say, oh, that hurts somebody's feelings and that could cause hate.
01:37:37.000No, but that's different to imposing something on people.
01:37:41.000If you have heterosexuality seeking to impose itself on homosexuality by saying, uh, we're gonna outlaw it, we can't do it, we're gonna throw you in prison if you get found doing it and all that stuff, that's what I'm talking about.
01:38:35.000You're a very interesting, articulate individual.
01:38:39.000But I've told you on air before that I don't think it does...
01:38:45.000Good, in the big picture, to go into things that you can't prove, add it on to all this real stuff, because then it discredits all the stuff we can document.
01:39:04.000Well, that's like saying prove George Washington did, or, you know, prove Mary, Queen of France.
01:39:09.000I think if you go into this more deeply, you'll find that there's enormous amounts of evidence That the story of Jesus, sometimes in detail, is a story that can be found thousands of years later.
01:39:26.000Yeah, I know, you'll claim the Egyptians and the Babylonians have similar myths.
01:39:29.000Yeah, all over the world they have similar myths.
01:39:38.000You believe in Jesus, fine, go ahead, don't matter to me.
01:39:43.000Why should me not believing in Jesus matter to anybody?
01:39:46.000Because, what did we talk about earlier?
01:39:49.000We talked about the fact that in the end, all of us, no matter what our beliefs, religiously, politically, in any way, shape or form, in the end, we're all cackle to this agenda of destroying the freedom, not just of non-Jesus believers or Jesus believers, but all of us.
01:40:08.000Surely, we should put aside what we don't believe or agree on, and unite behind what we do, which is the freedom of all of us to have and express our beliefs, whatever they are, so long as they're not imposed on others.
01:40:23.000And anyone that seeks to impose on me that I should believe in this, or believe in that, or otherwise I'm Satan, and all this very idiotic, very nonsense, is just playing the game Okay, let me add something here, David.
01:40:41.000Okay, I've studied the New World Order for a decade, a little over a decade now, I've been active for a decade.
01:40:47.000And every time I follow up to the highest levels of the New World Order, they believe in Lucifer, they believe in the devil, they seek to infiltrate Christianity, they seek to discredit it.
01:41:00.000In your book, you write about my infiltration of Bohemian Grove.
01:41:15.000Because the Bible tells me there's going to be a world leader who is the devil and who hates Christians.
01:41:20.000Now look, that is enforcing my belief.
01:41:26.000Well, if that reinforces your belief in Christianity, Alex, then believe in Christianity... Well, my own experiences have, too.
01:41:33.000I mean, I know God works in my life, but... Fine!
01:41:36.000But hold on, I mean, that's a real question.
01:41:37.000You know the globalists are devil worshippers.
01:41:39.000Now, why do they believe in the devil if you're saying Jesus doesn't exist?
01:41:45.000Well, explain to me why Jesus existing or not existing relates to them worshipping a negative dark force, which they do.
01:41:55.000You're telling me that, by necessity, Jesus has to be a polarity of what they worship?
01:42:02.000Why can't there be just another state of consciousness?
01:42:08.000A state of love as opposed to a state of hate?
01:42:11.000A state of peace as opposed to a state of conflict?
01:42:15.000Why does that love, which they are trying to destroy, Why, and why out of human consciousness, why does that love have to be called Jesus?
01:42:27.000Why can't it just be called love or any other name?
01:42:30.000Okay, David, we're about to go back to calls here in a second, and people will probably take us in a hundred different directions, but I want to get back to something I raised with the Matrix earlier.
01:42:42.000I clearly said that overall the first film gives us a good analogy or parallel to what's going on, at least psychologically and mentally, at a lot of different levels.
01:42:51.000The second one, then it gets into the Illuminati, the New World Order, and the third one it has this terrible message.
01:42:57.000You know, we sit down with the great architect, that Masonic term for Lucifer, and the architect, you know, the guy with the white beard, you know, the shaman archetype, sits there and tells us, look, you're going to destroy everything if you do this.
01:43:11.000You can have, you know, your free will in this, trying to counterfeit what the God of the Bible says if you've got free will.
01:43:19.000So, and what I was going to elaborate on is that's what the Illuminati says to professors and intelligent people is, we've got to be more ruthless than anybody else because if we aren't, other people will get those technologies and then they'll destroy the planet or they'll unseat our elite, join us and be part of the power structure.
01:43:37.000That's why I was saying that message is so dangerous.
01:43:44.000Well, the way that we're being mind manipulated through fear is and does take endless manifestations and what you're describing is one of them.
01:43:56.000I've met and read accounts of friends of people in high places in the university structure, both in this country and America for instance, who unknowingly Teaching and standing by doctrines and beliefs that they know to be false, because if they don't, then they're going to lose their job, and they're going to lose their funding, and they're going to lose their sense of who they are in the community.
01:44:26.000What I would say to those people is what I said earlier.
01:44:29.000At the end of your life, is that going to make you feel good about yourself?
01:44:34.000Or will you feel better about yourself if you say, I'm going to do what I believe to be right, no matter what the consequences.
01:44:41.000I'm not going to think about consequences.
01:44:43.000I'm going to do what I believe to be right.
01:44:45.000And, you know, we would change this world, Alex, overnight, if people, particularly those in key places who are not advancing this agenda through awareness or design, but by just taking part in it and playing a part in it because it suits them and suits what they want.
01:45:05.000uh... we would change overnight if people would just stop doing what they
01:45:09.000believe to be right for them in the moment and started and people started to do what they believe to
01:45:16.000be right and those two things are often in total consequence not
01:46:14.000And they tell you to believe whatever else you want.
01:46:16.000Just don't be a real Christian, and I see real Christians at the forefront of fighting the New World Order effectively, and I see FEMA gearing up to go after real Christians.
01:46:27.000Now, a lot of people in the whole New Age movement see these Neo-Con Christians, who are totally deceived, serving the New World Order beast system, and then a lot of people in your camp see that and think, oh, it must all be a fraud.
01:46:39.000And I'm telling you... Alex, the New Age is just another manufactured religion.
01:46:44.000You know, it's not Christianity that I don't follow.
01:46:50.000They're just structures of imposing a belief system, in my view, and I have a right to that.
01:46:55.000But people who think something differently, if they believe in freedom and they're a Christian, or they believe in freedom and they go round in New Age bloody clothes, I'm with them!
01:47:04.000Because we need to realize that we agree on what affects us all and not be divided and ruled by arguing among ourselves about whether that belief is right or that belief is wrong.
01:47:41.000And it's my belief that the moment that we're in, I know that time isn't real, but time is getting away from us.
01:47:50.000And I don't buy into these illusions of right and left.
01:47:56.000What can someone do to make a commitment to do their part in all this?
01:48:03.000Aside from intention, what do you recommend?
01:48:08.000Because I think now is the time, and I didn't ask you this last time on Lou Gentile, but I have to ask you now, what can someone do who is committed to do their part in all this?
01:48:34.000My intent is I want to serve the cause of freedom in every way I possibly can, in the most effective way I possibly can.
01:48:43.000If you do that, what starts to happen is people, and this is what happened to me, people and events and experiences start coming into your life, apparently coincidentally, that allow you to walk that road of making that contribution to advance and complete your intent. All I did in the early 90s
01:49:08.000when my mind was blown open was I did two things. I said this is my intent, something
01:49:15.000similar to what I've just said and secondly whenever my head, my intellect says one thing and
01:49:21.000my intuition says another, my feeling, this is what I feel to do.
01:49:26.000Oh no, you can't do that, you've got a mortgage, you've got a cat, says the intellect, which is always trying to keep us in the prison.
01:49:32.000If you follow your intuition, your feeling, then you suddenly find that life starts to put the riches in front of you.
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01:53:15.000Because so much of what he talks about and goes over is fluent, well-spoken, intelligent, focused, charismatic, documented, and then he goes into, you know, we secretly have these dimensional creatures controlling us from a higher level, and Jesus Christ wasn't Jesus, or didn't exist, and I disagree with that.
01:53:39.000But a lot of people follow David Icke, and we have him here on the show, and I appreciate him coming on.
01:53:43.000We have him on, I guess, about once a year.
01:53:45.000And we appreciate him spending this time with us.
01:53:47.000I know we need to get the calls a little bit quicker here.
01:53:53.000But David, I never saw this, so I don't know if it's true, but I have read in mainstream news reports that when you first started waking up, what was it, 1994?
01:54:19.000What I said in my own words in those days was what quantum physicists are saying, which is everything is the same energy, everything is the same consciousness, it's just expressing itself in different ways, and therefore if you want to use symbolic language, we're all the sons and daughters of God, and this got portrayed in the way That most things in the mainstream media get betrayed in a way that it wasn't said, it wasn't meant to.
01:54:59.000I've had the media lie about me, so that's why I brought that up.
01:55:04.000I'm just saying basically the same thing in a different language these days.
01:55:08.000We're all one consciousness, and we're all expressing ourselves in different ways.
01:55:13.000We're all one, but we're all the diversity of the one, if you like, and we should start celebrating diversity instead of scorning it and seeking to impose one belief upon a diverse population, and that's what the New World Order wants.
01:55:32.000Actually, in the name of diversity, they go after people being individuals.
01:56:02.000Could you speak to the audience about quantum physics a little more and the way that our eyes work and the solution to this problem that the hell that we're living in?
01:56:10.000Because I believe this is hell or heaven.
01:57:02.000Some people operate in different ways.
01:57:03.000But you're talking now, hey David, David, David, you're talking like O'Brien now, in 1984, when he tells Winston he can float off the ground like a soap bubble.
01:57:23.000It's made of atoms, and atoms are as least solid that you could ever come across.
01:57:27.000I mean, as one physicist said, if you take the atom to be the size of a cathedral, then the particles within it are about the size of... David, we've got a break.
01:58:15.000And of course my website is at PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, and PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:58:20.000And all these callers we're going to get to you.
01:58:24.000Who knows if David Icke wants to talk about electronic voting machine fraud.
01:58:27.000Well, Bev Harris would keep him on for that.
01:58:28.000It's always interesting to have him on and he's a very intelligent person.
01:58:32.000I think what's important is he gets us all to think.
01:58:36.000And shifting out of just not thinking, and watching television, and drinking a six-pack of beer, and going to church, and hearing how good George Bush is, or going to the Democratic meeting and hearing how good John Kerry is.
01:58:48.000I mean, I agree with him about Skull and Bones, and about 9-11, and about Bohemian Grove, and a lot of what David says I check out and it turns out to be true, and he obviously uses some of my research.
01:58:58.000But we do get focused in on the, I'd say, 5% of what David said that a lot of our listeners vehemently disagree with, and I do as well.
01:59:08.000Of course, the nature of matter is that there's giant spaces in it.
01:59:14.000And David says, well, there's that wall in front of you in the studio, and it's not really there.
01:59:19.000But at my level of physical manifestation, molecular level, on the dimensional spectrum, if you want to get into quantum mechanics, that my structure, my atom structure, is similar to that of the wall, and that is a wall that's there for me.
01:59:36.000So, you know, just throwing out some comments about quantum mechanics, you know, sounds very authoritative, but I mean, what does it mean?
01:59:46.000I could, you know, just say, well, I'll tell you what my arguments sound, because ham sandwich!
01:59:52.000We're about to go to your calls, I'm not trying to be mean, David, I'm trying to, some of the things you're saying, again, I only have my limited spectrum of consciousness, and I am able to wake people up off of facts and real things in this plane of existence, and then you go off into this other plane of existence where you can't demonstrate it for me, and demonstrating things is the basis of science.
02:00:27.000But, you know, you say you can't prove it.
02:00:31.000Well, the wall is made of atoms, and atoms are freaking empty.
02:00:36.000Now, what you're doing is constructing, and I'm doing the same with this wall in front of me now, is we're constructing a reality in our minds, a collective reality.
02:00:47.000As quantum physics has also said, atoms or particles within the atoms, they take two forms.
02:00:54.000They take a waveform, which is non-physical, and they take a particle form, which appears to our minds to be physical.
02:01:02.000And the only time that the waveform becomes a particle is when we're looking at it, when we're observing it.
02:01:09.000So what I'm saying is, you said something very correct earlier about what I'm trying to do.
02:01:13.000I'm not trying to get people to believe anything.
02:01:15.000I don't care what people believe, as long as it's what they believe and not what someone else has imposed externally upon them to believe.
02:01:21.000I'm trying to get people to see that there are other possibilities.
02:01:25.000Once people realise that, the possibility that's being sold to them from cradle to grave through the education system, he said laughing, through the media and We've got a break again.
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02:06:16.000mulling how to delay or cancel November vote in case of attack.
02:06:21.000We've got Ridge in front of Camera feeds, oh big brother, it'll keep you safe, saying, you know, we may have to suspend the election, martial law might be needed.
02:07:01.000And there are more stages on that road to come, because they have a time scale which is not a million years from now, and they have to push this on if they're going to get it into place.
02:07:12.000One of the key things they need to get into place, and is in so many ways the jewel in their crown, is the microchip.
02:07:19.000And I understand that it's been a few weeks in America, they now have chipmobiles going around chipping people.
02:07:47.000Well, interestingly, back in 1997, I was asked through a third party to meet a guy who was a scientist with the CIA, who joined the CIA genuinely thinking he was serving his country in his early twenties.
02:08:02.000He was a genius in the area of magnetics and various other Cutting edge technology and he asked to meet me to try to get out what was going on because he couldn't for reasons that became very rapidly clear.
02:08:17.000He was telling me that when he rebelled against what he realized he was being asked to do, which was to use his genius to advance his agenda, which he very soon realized existed.
02:10:29.000Yeah, he said that even in 1997, and we've seen some evidence of that since, he said outside the public arena, microchips are so small they can be inserted in a hypodermic needle during vaccination programs.
02:10:45.000And he said even people who become aware of the microchip don't realize the full magnitude of it.
02:10:50.000It's not just an electronic tag, although that's definitely one level of it.
02:10:54.000He said, to me again, 1997, it's not the messages going from the chip to the computer that are the prime reason for it, though it's one.
02:11:04.000It's the messages coming the other way.
02:11:06.000He said that they can isolate the microchip, take someone out physically through it, they can manipulate individuals, or do en masse manipulations of... Let me stop you.
02:11:19.000In my film, Road to Tyranny, I have a CBS News clip from 2000 where they say, They're going to do this and now they have the system if you're depressed, this is the Associated Press, they put a wire into the brain to make you feel better, David.
02:11:34.000Once we have the wire, we won't be so crazy anymore.
02:11:37.000So they're openly now, so all this stuff that we talked about years ago is now right out
02:11:53.000And then DARPA comes out a few months ago in the Baltimore newspaper and in the Boston
02:12:00.000paper and says, oh we're going to put towers up to control your minds and we're going to
02:12:05.000have Coke machines that project audio into the brain.
02:12:09.000This is incredible and they're really doing it.
02:12:12.000The other thing the scientists said, by the way, was that they would use...
02:12:17.000The excuse of replacing credit cards and credit card fraud with microchips holding your financial details.
02:12:25.000And just a few months ago, I'm sure you know, this company, which used to be what's like a hawk, Applied Digital Solutions, came out and said that they wanted to replace credit cards with their microchips.
02:12:37.000So like we've said throughout this chat, Alex, what has been predicted is now in our face.
02:13:42.000And when you're talking about something that is so way out, so fantastic, even to people who are opening their minds to to things that other people are still close to, then if I
02:13:55.000talked about it in the time we have left, then it would not do it justice. I mean, I've got a book,
02:14:03.000Children of the Matrix, which is five, six hundred pages talking about this. That's what it
02:14:09.000takes to present this in a logical way.
02:14:13.000If you're talking in short clips, I mean, of course it's going to sound ridiculous. Of course
02:14:17.000it is. Just like, you know, once it was ridiculous to say the earth was round, and unless it could
02:14:24.000Then, um, you know, have you heard of the law of gravity and all this stuff?
02:14:28.000It sounded ludicrous to people at that time who didn't know about the laws of gravity, so... Well, I mean, I'll put it in a nutshell and tell me if you think I'm wrong, and again, I don't go there, I don't go into flying saucers, I don't go into stuff I can't prove.
02:14:38.000I stick to, it's hard enough that they're on the news saying every child needs a microchip, but basically, there's these interdimensional rulers of our planet that run the Illuminati as their servants, and that's basically what you're saying, Mr. Reich?
02:14:52.000Yeah, I'm saying that this age-old term or concept, which is very much still there today... The serpent in the garden!
02:15:06.000...of possession, people being possessed by other dimensional entities which take over their mental and emotional processes, is what is ultimately behind the Illuminati, and that these interbreeding Illuminati bloodlines, going back to the
02:15:23.000ancient world, are obsessed with holding their particular genetics
02:15:27.000because it makes this possession easier and a lot of this stuff takes place in the very rituals that you've exposed
02:15:50.000Well, it just strikes me as rather curious that he doesn't believe in Jesus, who's, I think, pretty well documented, but he does believe in reptiles, who most of us haven't had any experience with.
02:16:04.000Look at the evidence on both sides of some argument, and really look at the evidence rather than just say, yes, everyone knows that.
02:16:13.000It's a mistake that a lot of people make.
02:16:15.000Because everyone knows, actually very little, I've got something like 90 odd percent of what people believe is actually in the end not true.
02:16:22.000Well, David, David, you know what people say.
02:16:24.000David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, you know what people say about you, though.
02:16:34.000They say that you bring out all this stuff that's documented, that I can prove, and then you add stuff like the reptiles, the reptoid rulers, onto it, then psychologically discrediting all the real stuff.
02:16:46.000Well, they'll just have to believe that.
02:16:48.000I'm interested in what is happening in the world.
02:16:51.000I am not limited by a belief system and I'm not limited by caring what other people think about me and worrying about whether people will ridicule what I say.
02:17:04.000I'm just interested in what's going on.
02:17:12.000What people think of me is none of my business.
02:17:14.000I'm interested in scientifically proving the things I say, which I can do, and then convincing rational people.
02:17:21.000And I'm saying with some of the stuff you add to this ice cream sundae you've built that I'm saying is real and based on reality, you put the cherry on top.
02:17:31.000And I don't agree with the cherry you put on top.
02:17:35.000We got a break, we'll come back, jam a few more calls in here.
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02:22:18.000In defense of David, I have a comment to make on the flack he's been taking about reptilians I don't know if you're aware of the fact that the American Medical Association and the New England Journal of Medicine, or School of Medicine, throughout the 90s has said that one part of the human brain is reptilian.
02:22:43.000Sir, look, that's just science that the, you know, really three brains and the one down that's attached to your spinal cord is a crocodile brain.
02:22:52.000It's almost identical and has the same makeup.
02:22:55.000Well, who's to say that the bloodlines, the aristocratic bloodlines, don't have more reptilian DNA in them?
02:23:02.000And also, my last thing is, are you aware of the fact that David Rockefeller and Gianni Agnelli and Umberto Agnelli have died in the past year?
02:23:24.000I was trying to get through to you for an hour to let you know that, because Agnelli, both of them, the brother died at 62, that's Umberto, and then Gianni Agnelli died at 67 last year, and these are all major Illuminati guys.
02:23:59.000Maybe there's a little reptilian in there.
02:24:01.000Okay, well maybe there's an Easter Bunny, too.
02:24:03.000I have no problem with that technology at all.
02:24:05.000Because once you have an advanced knowledge of how things work, what seems impossible to the population and ludicrous and ridiculous suddenly becomes perfectly possible.
02:24:26.000I'll tell you what's interesting is very quickly on that question, though, Alex.
02:24:30.000When you look, and this is mainstream science, when you look at the character traits that we supposedly get from the reptilian brain, which is the oldest part of the brain, they are the Illuminati to a T.
02:24:43.000uh... it's uh... cold-blooded behavior that behaving in ways that
02:24:47.000have no empathy with the consequences of people of your actions uh... i believe
02:24:51.000in top-down power over structures a belief in might is right
02:24:56.000i believe in territorialism this is mine and no one else can have it
02:25:01.000all these things and more whatever you believe or don't believe about the reptilian
02:25:06.000aspect of this the reptilian brain contains
02:25:09.000the character traits of the illuminati Well, it is just science that we've got that part of our brain.
02:25:15.000Let's go ahead and talk to Rick in Colorado.
02:25:19.000Rick, you're on the air with David Icke.
02:25:33.000But I do want to say that I agree with David on the fact that religion has divided the people in this country.
02:25:44.000And I would like for him to expound a little bit more on the fact that various Jesus figures have appeared throughout history, pretty much throughout the many religions.
02:25:55.000That's what the New Age says, but I've looked at it.
02:25:58.000There's a big difference between Jesus Christ and Buddha.
02:26:02.000There's a big difference between Jesus Christ and Buddha, but when you look at entities that worshipped pre-Christianity, like Mithra, like Tamils, etc., and others, There's tremendous similarities.
02:26:18.000In fact, ludicrously similar concepts.
02:26:22.000And the reason, for instance, that we have Jesus being given the birthday of December the 25th, and many of these other pre-Christian entities also, is because they relate to the sun, the worship of the sun.
02:26:35.000Well now, all of that is true, but they say the occult came in and changed those dates.
02:26:52.000The work that you and Alex do has totally consumed and changed my life.
02:26:56.000I've started my own organization called Truth, teaching and researching United States treasonous hierarchy, and at the risk of sounding like Cousin Eddie in The Vegas Vacation, I'd take a bullet for either one of you guys.
02:27:08.000I'll tell you what, Tim, that's exactly what we need, is for people to pick the baton up and run with it.
02:27:16.000Because there isn't one baton here, there's as many as we want to create.
02:27:21.000Ask the question, what can Licker Me do?
02:27:24.000Well, we can do whatever we choose to do.
02:27:27.000We can make a difference, or we can sit down, making excuses why we can't.
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02:31:23.000But I do know this New World Order is evil and a fraud.
02:31:26.000I would just challenge people to research everything for yourselves and to keep an open mind, but also to not believe everything I say or anybody else says.
02:31:44.000I know you can affect change, whether it's for good or bad.
02:31:47.000So let's try to jam a few final calls in here that we're going to have Bev Harris on with something that is totally documented, the stealing of elections, the fraud, the electronic voting machines.
02:31:57.000But real quick, and I mean quickly callers, Anthony in Ohio, you're on the air with David Iye, go ahead.
02:32:06.000Hi David, everybody, great to talk to you.
02:32:08.000I wanted to talk about abrupt climate change and that Pentagon report that came out in February where they predicted the UK would be like Siberia within 20 years or so.
02:32:21.000I wanted to know if... And notice there's a movie out at the very same time, and saying the UN needs to take over, we need to have a world tax to save us.
02:32:43.000No more to say, really, except that, you know, I agree with you.
02:32:46.000Another massive con, in fact there's a famous environmentalist in Britain who's come out very recently, last week or so, who's actually showing that the whole foundation of the theory of global warming, The so-called greenhouse gases is impossible.
02:33:08.000But the problem is the globalists can manipulate the weather themselves and create spot crises and then go, oh, give up your rights.
02:34:50.000I lived in England for ten years with the Air Force and British Motorsport.
02:34:54.000The reason so many Europeans are not religious is because the Illuminati and Jewish Freemasons infiltrated government He used state religion for taxation and genocide, so that turns people off.
02:35:06.000The Church of England was invented by King Henry VIII to legalize divorce so he could cut off his wife's head and he banned the English Bible.
02:35:14.000Even the word Christianity is a Jewish invention under penalty of death since Jesus' real name was Yahshua and God's real name is Yahweh.
02:35:23.000England was the first Christian nation, not Israel or Italy, As for New Age science, ESP is just prayer and radio waves.
02:35:30.000Atoms can never be destroyed by explosions or time, according to every scientist on Earth.
02:35:36.000And so-called Christians, who love George Bush, believe God is so powerless that he can't control time and space, and can't control evolution via genetics and DNA.
02:35:47.000So Jewish Communism is an atheist religion.
02:35:50.000And that's how the Illuminati divide and conquer.
02:36:00.000Well, I would agree with that in the sense that one of the great defense mechanisms that the Illuminati use against researchers is when you mention the Rothschilds, they scream anti-Semite.
02:36:15.000Shabbat, a number of events Shut down over the years because people have targeted venues and said that I'm going to say it's all a great Jewish plot because I mentioned the Rothschilds.
02:36:27.000The Illuminati work through all races and they use them and then they discard them just like they do with individuals.
02:36:38.000This whole story and Those that blame just the Jews just forget that Jewish people as a whole have been victims of this Illuminati over the centuries and not perpetrators of it.
02:36:51.000But are some of the members of the Rothschilds who call themselves Jewish?
02:38:44.000It's going to be at the Unitarian Church, I believe.
02:38:47.000And that will be from 7 to 10, and I will be producing some, I will be reporting some information that nobody has got yet.
02:38:58.000Which is coming from our 14-state tour of some of the things that we have been... What we've been doing is what nobody else has been doing, is going directly into the belly of the beast.
02:39:07.000You've been chronicling the federally engineered fraud at the local level, at the point-blank range.
02:39:13.000Right, because, you know, an election always takes place at the local level.
02:39:17.000Well, it certainly does, Bev, and, you know, I wanted to get you back on, because you asked Mulling how to delay or cancel a member vote in case of attack.
02:39:27.000And the same people that helped put in these electronic no record voting machines are the ones now talking about canceling the election.
02:39:37.000It is absolutely outrageous and we have to nip this in the bud.
02:39:41.000And let me tell you something, in the event that there was some sort of a problem, the only reason it should ever even be postponed for a day is in specific locations where it's physically impossible to hold an election.
02:39:54.000But let me tell you, What they should be talking about, if they're talking about this at all, is Plan B. Plan B. Get some pencils.
02:40:22.000That doesn't allow centralized fraud of the entire system, Bev.
02:40:27.000Well, you know, this is the great thing.
02:40:30.000When we start demanding these simple, simple things, it puts the onus on the other folks to justify why they're coming up with these ridiculous ideas.
02:40:41.000Bev, here's a parallel with What's happening here, you know, they call no audit trail, caught coast-to-coast, engage in fraud, manipulating votes, they call that freedom and say we're bad to want an audit trail or a record or a receipt.
02:40:56.000Meanwhile, they appoint a government, appoint a president, he declares martial law in Iraq, they put the Ba'athists and the Communists into power, And then they call that a democracy?
02:41:09.000I mean, so now puppet governments, uh, cancelled elections, appointed Supreme Court governments, I guess this is freedom!
02:41:18.000They're relabeling tyranny as freedom, Bev!
02:41:22.000Well, you know, the thing is, yes, we have to just keep, we gotta keep them honest.
02:41:27.000I know, don't laugh, you know, but, but to be silent is not the answer.
02:41:31.000Every single time we hear stuff like, We need to cancel elections to protect democracy.
02:41:39.000No, we don't cancel up democracy for fear.
02:41:42.000You know, our sons and daughters are dying to vote, literally.
02:41:45.000And we need to get out there and stop this kind of talk and just, you know, when you hear something like that, just say, nope, not having it and speak up.
02:41:54.000Well, Bev, go back to what you brought up earlier.
02:41:58.000I mean, the very new federal body created by Bush that oversees the Federal Elections Commission, these are the guys putting in the voting machines, these scam systems, they're the people saying, cancel the election or postpone it.
02:42:22.000Forrest Tessori is the head of it, and I'll tell you some of the same people that put the touchscreen voting machines in, Britton Williams, Paul Craft, Danetta Davidson, these kinds of people, the same people that pushed the unauditable systems down our throat are the ones that got appointed to this new committee.
02:42:43.000And what's really strange about that is they created a fiasco.
02:42:47.000You know, we've got states that are decertifying it, and counties that are rescinding their contracts.
02:42:52.000We've got lawsuits in multiple locations.
02:42:55.000Why would you choose people who had put that kind of fiasco in place and put them into a national committee, which is supposed to... Well, it's a damage committee.
02:43:16.000Which wants to produce a cryptographic technique where you basically get some sort of a receipt and then get a code number, go compare something with the internet.
02:43:25.000And that's an algorithm within the scam or a certification on the machines.
02:43:30.000Right, and still you've got a couple of people who you don't know controlling everything and just doing the simple thing, count the ballots.
02:43:47.000Why are we spending billions and billions and billions of dollars when if they can't find enough people to count the vote, give the day off then and tell them, okay, we can count the vote this way.
02:43:57.000I mean, we're doing amazing things just simply to get away from having evidence of what the vote is and counting it properly in front of many eyes.
02:44:06.000And I'm telling you, this is really, um, this Vote Here Company, it's just an inside I just recently read memos indicating they're putting it into the Diebold system.
02:44:54.000Yeah, and he was former, he was the chairman of the board for many years.
02:44:58.000And our, my state is Washington State.
02:45:02.000Our Secretary of State stepped down and took a position as Chairman of the Board, and he didn't even wait the one year required, he waited like three days, went over and took that, and now they're pushing this system into our state.
02:45:16.000We have to be up to speed on this stuff, and we have to speak up and say, no, I don't want that system, this is what I want, and don't back down.
02:45:24.000And I'll tell you the hint, from when they're trying to switch over to these cryptography things, Ballot versus trail.
02:45:31.000If they're talking about a paper ballot, that's what we want.
02:45:34.000If they're talking about a paper trail, they're generally planning to switch over into this cryptography stuff at a later date.
02:45:44.000Bev Harris, I know you're busy, I'm going to let you go, but I know tomorrow you're going to be bringing out some instances of how they're paying the people off locally to go along with this with the thousands of county clerks And I want to get you up for an hour later this week, after you've gotten out of town, to go over this with us.
02:46:06.000But tomorrow, 1045, inside the Capitol, folks, just ask the state police, hey, where's the people about the voting machines?
02:46:14.000And they'll direct you into the rotunda.
02:46:17.000And then tomorrow night, 7 o'clock, and Bev, the website's blackboxvoting.org.
02:46:27.000I just really wanted to promote that today, so I had her on the first 30 minutes and then had her back on for a few minutes now.
02:46:33.000Boy, this broadcast has just blasted past us, but I'm going to come back and take a few final calls from folks that have been holding the longest, but look at this New York Times article.
02:46:43.000A secret conference thought to rule the world.
02:46:46.000Another new New York Times article saying, yeah, they basically appointed John Edwards at the Bilderberg Group meeting.
02:46:55.000And our comment is, you know it's coming down to the wire when the New York Times talks about Bilderberg and world government.
02:47:02.000Externalization of the hierarchy has never been more apparent.
02:47:05.000That's on PrisonPlanet.com and TV and InfoWars right now.
02:47:09.000Arafat says Israel masterminded Tel Aviv bombing.
02:47:13.000Jerusalem Post, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat, condemns Sunday's Tel Aviv bombing explosion that was claimed by Eska Martyrs Brigades accusing Israel of masterminding the attack.
02:47:25.000Arafat suggested the attack was an act of provocation carried out by Israel following the ruling by the International Court of Justice in The Hague against the West Bank security fence.
02:47:34.000Arafat said, we are against such kinds of bombings and you must never forget that the Israelis are completely behind it as they have been in the past.
02:47:41.000By the way, Israel, Yasser Arafat isn't the only person.
02:47:49.000It was Yitzhak Rabin, right before he was killed, said this.
02:47:54.000Speaking to reporters after the meeting of the U.N.
02:47:56.000Relief and Workers Agency, Commissioner General Peter Hanson, Arafat added, you know who is behind these acts, which are aimed at harming the court decision.
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02:51:57.000I just wanted to put up a billboard, a bunch of them, they're trying to buy them from Clear Channel, that owns most of the billboards, a large portion of them, that said, uh, red, white, and blue, uh, with the words, democracy is best taught by example, not war, and Clear Channel says, no, you can't buy billboards from us.
02:52:18.000I mean, come on, folks, and then they buy up everything?
02:52:20.000You see, this is the monopoly we're talking about?
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02:54:54.000Okay, something else that's very provable.
02:54:57.000Yesterday's Baltimore Sun, it was talking about how Julio Chavez President of Venezuela has decided to use the very corrupt voting machines that we have over here in our country and it even cited the company, Senator Chuck Hagel's company out of Omaha, Nebraska.