Alex Jones goes over the latest in the war on terror and the cover-up by the mainstream media and the Department of Defense. Big Brother, Big Lies, Big Money and Big Lies again! Alex goes over some examples of the military violating every canon of the free society, every section of the Bill of Rights, and engaging in this for their private corporate owners. The same private corporate interests that funded Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, and more.
00:00:46.000Coming up in a little while, we have a writer coming on the broadcast to talk about the Pentagon running recruitment ads for psychological warfare experts to run operations out of NORTHCOM in Colorado, our new military martial law command center.
00:01:08.000And how that feeds into the Pentagon Office of Strategic Information two years ago that said they were going to lie to us for our own good.
00:01:19.000And then we'll go over some examples of the military violating every canon of a free society, every section of the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and engaging in this for their private corporate owners.
00:01:32.000The same private corporate owners that funded Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, Ho Chi Minh, they build them up, they knock them down, or they try to knock them down, and they create crises, whether it's Noriega, or Bin Laden, or Saddam.
00:01:55.000In every one of those cases I listed, it's now admitted that our government helped put them into power, helped keep them there.
00:03:00.000Why is the Secret Service treating harmless professors And pacifist homeless advocates like they're members of Al Qaeda.
00:03:08.000And this is by Justin Rude in Ceylon, the same guy that wrote the article about the Pentagon running ads for people to get positions running disinformation operations here in the U.S.
00:03:24.000The big news, of course, we'll cover first when we get back.
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00:09:01.000We're going to be getting some of those folks on, but again, they're monitoring for the wrong reasons.
00:09:05.000They're protesting for the wrong reasons.
00:09:08.000Congress may put more power in Intel Post.
00:09:12.000Here's another shill article out of the Kansas City Star, saying that Bush is a little upset.
00:09:20.000He may not want This giant independent intelligence czar that has outside funding and he may not want Congress to sign over all its control.
00:09:32.000Funny, that's what he proposed a year ago.
00:09:35.000That's what the 9-11 Whitewash Commission proposed.
00:09:40.000As it was being formed, they said, oh, we're going to call for Patriot Act 2 and a giant domestic intelligence agency.
00:09:47.000And then, oh, we're not going to try to Find blame in government.
00:09:52.000We're going to try to find out how to stop this from happening again.
00:10:02.000I mean, in our Navy, up until just a few decades ago, if you lost an action, or you screwed something up, you got kicked out of the Navy, or you got sent to the shore, or if a politician messed something up, or a dam operator opened the wrong floodgate and flooded a town, they got fired.
00:10:23.000We've actually found that if you screw something up, you get rewarded.
00:10:29.000But again, we know 9-11 isn't screwing something up.
00:10:31.000Actually, those that carried out 9-11, those that got the passports for the supposed hijackers, and those that blocked FBI agents from doing their jobs, they all got bonuses and promoted.
00:10:43.000And those that tried to fight Al-Syiada got kicked out of the FBI or the CIA, or got demoted and didn't get those big record cash bonuses.
00:11:07.000FBI probes hoax video of Iraq beheading.
00:11:11.000And it's very interesting, in the big headlines in major newspapers, it just says the guy did it as a joke.
00:11:16.000But when you read deeper in the Reuters and AP News stories, that never made it in the newspaper, he says that he wanted to show how the government could fake one of these videos, or how some other group could do it, and how easy this is to do.
00:11:30.000And he went to one of the supposed Islamicist websites and posted this of supposedly himself having his head cut off and it was posed in a friend's garage and done for a couple hundred dollars.
00:11:44.000We've already proven the Nick Berg video is fake.
00:11:47.000We've already proven the Fat Bin Laden in the dark room is fake.
00:11:50.000We've already proven fake Niger documents, fake weapons documents, fake, fake, fake, and it turns out the latest terror alerts are four years old but So we'll get into that story, too.
00:12:02.000And then, of course, in Japan, there was a radiation release, part of a reactor blew and sprayed a bunch of high-level radioactive particles onto the workers there.
00:12:23.000And at least four are dead, according to the Associated Press.
00:12:29.000Now, they say a non-radioactive steam leak killed four people and injured seven others.
00:12:36.000But then another article says it was radioactive, so you can believe whatever they say.
00:12:39.000Remember about, what, six, seven years ago?
00:12:43.000Japanese hand-stirring giant buckets of highly radioactive materials at one of their power plants?
00:12:55.000Then it was reported that they were actually getting into the buckets with their feet and meeting it.
00:13:00.000This is the self-sacrifice of the Japanese, folks.
00:13:03.000There's a lot of weird, secretive stuff going on in Japan that nobody really knows about.
00:13:07.000I know that last year, and then the year before that, Japan started threatening to nuke North Korea, and then their government called for developing nuclear weapons covertly, which was kind of strange, calling for developing nuclear weapons covertly, but announcing it publicly.
00:13:24.000So imagine what they do with cameras and computers and automobiles.
00:13:30.000Imagine that put to use in developing nuclear weapons.
00:13:33.000They have more nuclear reactors than any other country in the world, not just per capita, but period.
00:13:40.000And there's all sorts of bizarre clandestine stuff going on in Japan, where they, by the way, have also legalized cloning.
00:13:49.000And now Japan is talking about getting rid of its pacifist constitution.
00:13:54.000Talking about building a bunch of warships and robotic drone aircraft and better look out my friends, better look out North Korea and China and again as I said better look out America.
00:14:09.000Leak of Japan Nuclear Plant Kills 4 and Non-Radioactive Steam Link Killed 4 People and Injured 7 Others Monday and the worst ever accident.
00:14:22.000Remember that big thing blew up and it was all radioactive and spilt out into the city streets and then it got shut up real quick?
00:14:29.000I need to do a Google search and find that.
00:14:31.000A non-radioactive steam leak killed four people and injured seven others Monday in the worst ever accident, a Japanese nuclear power plant official said.
00:14:38.000One other worker was reportedly in critical condition.
00:14:40.000The cause was not clear, but no radiation escaped the plant.
00:14:50.000The cause is not clear, but no radiation escaped the plant, and there was no need to evacuate the area around the city of Mihama.
00:14:58.000About 200 miles west of Tokyo, officials said that Mihama's population is 11,500.
00:15:04.000And it said the four died of severe burns.
00:15:09.000It said the local government office, Japanese media reported that another worker was in critical condition and had suffered heart and lung failure.
00:15:44.000Again, I like to post articles on my website and then put our own little headline on them, our own little comment, our own little editorializing.
00:16:48.000And of course, I'm sure they'll say, well, there was a few Irregularities, but overall the government's doing a great job and they'll say, see, we've been independently certified by the United Nations, who I would add goes into scores of third world countries, funds the government or the rebels, overthrows the government, and massacres people by the hundreds of thousands, in some cases the millions, and is a total mechanism
00:17:18.000An appendage, a tool, a weapon, a battering ram of the New World Order.
00:17:24.000But here's CNN, an international team to monitor presidential elections.
00:17:28.000Observers will be part of OSCE's Human Rights Office, a team of international observers.
00:17:35.000We'll monitor the presidential election in November according to the U.S.
00:17:39.000State Department, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
00:17:43.000A subdivision of the United Nations and the EU was invited to monitor the election by the State Department.
00:17:49.000The observers will come from the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights.
00:17:55.000It will be the first time such a team has been present for a U.S.
00:18:02.000As all OSCE countries should, spokeswoman Uder Gunderdotter said, it's not Legally binding, but it's a political commitment.
00:18:14.000They signed a document ten years ago to ask OSCE to observe elections.
00:18:18.000Thirteen Democratic members of the House of Representatives, raising the specter of possible civil liberties violations that they said took place in Florida and elsewhere in the 2000 election, wrote to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan in July asking him to send observers.
00:18:34.000After Annan rejected their request, saying the administration must make the application, the Democrats asked Secretary of State Colin Powell to do so.
00:18:42.000The issue was hotly debated in the House, and Republicans got an amendment to a foreign aid bill that barred federal funds from being used.
00:18:50.000For the United Nations to monitor U.S.
00:18:52.000elections, which again, makes them look good and conservative, but then Bush brings them in.
00:18:56.000The Associated Press reported in a letter dated July 30th and released last week, Assistant Secretary of State Paul Kelly told the Democrats about the invitation to the OSCE without monitoring and mentioning the U.N.
00:19:13.000I am pleased the Secretary of State Colin Powell is committed as I am to a fair and democratic process to Democratic Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas who spearheaded the effort to get the U.N.
00:19:26.000The presence of monitors will assure Americans that America cares about their votes and it cares about its standing in the world, she said in the news release.
00:19:39.000Don't support Republican Rush Holtzbill That would force a paper trail to have these machines print out a paper copy of the vote that will be held for recount.
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00:24:22.000Yeah Alex, you know we need a 9-11 commission that will ask some real questions made up by some of the family members of the 9-11 victims.
00:24:35.000You know the only Saudis that left during that gap in time where no planes were allowed to leave, one of the Saudis was the prince who owned some of the horses at Kentucky Derby.
00:24:50.000Now, this Saudi was identified by a top operative of the jihadists that was captured.
00:24:57.000He was identified as one of the jihadists' connections.
00:25:04.000And this person that identified him identified two other connections within the Saudi royal family, and all three died within the same week.
00:25:14.000I know, and let me add something to this.
00:25:17.000Again, the entire commission is in bed with the globalists.
00:25:20.000Some of them are actually in business with the Bin Ladens, like Chairman Keene.
00:25:24.000Remember, they tried to have Henry Kissinger as the head of it, if that gives you an idea, folks.
00:25:30.000James Baker represents the Saudis against the 9-11 families.
00:25:34.000Now, again, that's the Bush administration for you.
00:25:39.000And of course, his cousin, Kerry, is up to his eyeballs in Saudi money as well.
00:25:45.000Of course, and James Baker also had some financial connections with Carlisle, which is making lots of money off the war in Iraq.
00:25:55.000The Bin Laden family has made, off just the increase in their profits from the privately held Carlisle Group, which they're majority owners in, they have made at least $2 billion on the war alone.
00:26:08.000Wow, their son did a good job for them.
00:26:13.000Well, you know, it's not enough to say about all the financial connections between our president, the Saudi royal family, Duffin Lovins, and the Bank of Connecticut Commerce International, a Saudi royal, who owned the Bank of Connecticut Commerce International, he'd been befooled, once identified as a, the Senate, through a Senate investigation, It's financing a lot of the terrorist activities across the world.
00:26:42.000Hey, whether it's Noriega, or Bin Laden, or Saddam, what did Eisenhower call Fidel Castro?
00:26:51.000He called him the Abraham Lincoln of Latin America.
00:26:55.000They put all these people in, it's staged, thanks for the call.
00:27:00.000It's how they operate, and people just cannot figure that out.
00:27:28.000I may not have time for all three, but I'll try to get to them real quick.
00:27:31.000First off, the first time I ever heard your voice was on Roundtable with George Murray back in April, or May, I think, March, somewhere around there.
00:27:38.000Yeah, you and Steve Quayle and several other people, and I didn't know who you were back then, but you started talking about LISLN and 9-1-1 being orchestrated.
00:27:45.000I thought you were crazy, but then I went to your website and started doing some research, and I think I've got to agree now.
00:27:57.000I was listening to one of your compatriots a few weeks ago, Dan Monteith.
00:28:02.000He had a guy on his Radio Liberty Show talking about Freemasons.
00:28:07.000And a caller called in talking about the Brown v. Topeka Board of Education 1954 ruling.
00:28:15.000And he mentioned that Earl Warren, who was Chief Justice at that time, and Thurgood Marshall were both Freemasons and his point was that rather than the government really caring about equal opportunity for education, It was their way to insinuate themselves into the state education and then try to dumb down education.
00:28:35.000And I want to know what you're feeling on that.
00:28:59.000And also, you may or may not know this, you probably didn't know it, yesterday was the 30th anniversary of Richard Nixon resigning back in the 70s.
00:29:10.000Well, I mean, a lot of times they'll use a president to carry out their dirty work, then they'll hang him out to dry to make people think, oh, we've dealt with the corruption.
00:29:18.000And so these are kind of disposable minions.
00:29:21.000Or disposable heroes, depending on how you look at them.
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00:33:15.000I'm sure you've heard the news that an American computer expert, but he didn't really use computers to get the job done, duped the US government.
00:33:27.000Now the FBI is probing the hoax video by right beheading.
00:33:32.000And it was all over the news for two days this weekend.
00:33:35.000Oh my gosh, look at the new video of him cutting an American's head off.
00:33:40.000And I can't really do this justice because the Nicholas Berg video has now over a hundred anomalies that we've seen.
00:33:50.000I mean, two hijackers have got the codes to his computers.
00:34:18.000Then video experts look at it and say the video's been doctored and the audio's been manipulated.
00:34:24.000We have a government who's been caught planning fake letters from troops with false signatures.
00:34:30.000In newspapers coast-to-coast that produces fake Niger weapons documents, that uses twelve-year-old graduate student papers as quote, the latest intel, that uses four-year intel to claim that we're about to be under impending attack.
00:34:45.000I could go on for hours with where they order the FBI and CIA to quote, issue fake terror alerts And so, then we have a government that says, oh, we got a couple phone calls from people on board the hijacked aircraft that say that, oh my gosh, we've been hijacked, honey.
00:35:05.000My point is, is that it's very easy to fake those.
00:35:09.000And you cannot trust... Number one, what cell phone ever worked from a plane?
00:35:19.000out on the tarmac before you take off, before they tell you to turn them on.
00:35:22.000They've had all these mainstream articles about trying to make it to where cell phones work.
00:35:29.000They have the inboard cell phones that are specially transmitted from a high-powered antenna in the bottom of the plane through its communication system, but that's not a normal cell phone system.
00:35:40.000So my point is I don't believe their official story.
00:35:44.000I mean, you have them claiming that all the five air traffic control tower takes, we've had air traffic controllers on this show by the way, all those malfunctioned.
00:35:55.000Then they release clips of the air traffic control towers they claim were erased.
00:36:01.000I mean, they killed the same people three, four, five times, the same terrorists.
00:36:05.000It's just, it's sloppily done theater, but they know that 90% of high school graduates in major polls don't know who the Vice President is, don't know how many continents there are, can't find Iraq on a map, on a globe.
00:36:19.000So, they know that we're dumbed down or not focused on real issues, so they just get away with all this.
00:36:27.000But we're about to go to Justin Rude, who writes for Congressional Quarterly Homeland Security.
00:36:34.000He writes for Salon, I mean, you name it.
00:36:38.000And he found some interesting info about the NORTHCOM, our new military command that runs our lives, basically, if we're under attack, coming out and saying that But we need to hire some people for basically the Pentagon's Office of Strategic Influence, which they admitted two years ago was going to plant fake news stories.
00:36:57.000But then they claimed that they were withdrawing that program.
00:37:01.000But briefly, and I appreciate our guest holding, I wanted to answer your question, Brad in Colorado, about why I think those tapes from the people that were on the hijacked planes are fake.
00:37:13.000And I gave you some background of that.
00:37:15.000Once you've lied to me hundreds of times and been caught manufacturing evidence, I don't believe you.
00:38:36.000First, I want to get into his article of last week that's posted on Infowars.com now, covering this situation with Homeland Security's military body, Northcom, with Mr. Eberhardt, who did such a good job with NORAD Northcom, with Mr. Eberhardt, who did such a good job with NORAD standing down, running things at the end of Mr. Rude, good to have you on.
00:39:02.000Tell us about where we can read your fine research and some of the places that carry your columns, and then let's get into this latest Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence report.
00:39:12.000Well, I write for a publication called Congressional Quarterly Homeland Security, which is a subscription-based site that's kind of inside the Beltway-type publication.
00:39:20.000I also write for Salon.com, but I post most of what I do to a site called Page15.com, page one five dot com.
00:39:31.000Let's get into this article from last week.
00:39:35.000You found something interesting with NorthCom advertising for high-level people with security clearances for deception operations was, I believe, one of the quotes.
00:39:48.000Yeah, I was just going through some websites for some military contractors and came across this job posting for an influence operations specialist That was supposed to interface with NORTHCOM, with the military's northern command that controls the continental US.
00:40:06.000And that seemed a little strange to me, because they're not supposed to be doing influence operations in the continental United States.
00:40:13.000So I started poking around and found out that it was part of an Air Force contract, but it made this reference to influence operations at NORTHCOM and defined them as including psychological operations and deception plans.
00:40:29.000Um, so, uh, I called NorthCom to try to find out, you know, what the story was.
00:40:33.000Uh, and, uh, they didn't have a real good answer.
00:40:37.000They insisted, of course, it wasn't happening.
00:40:39.000But they did say that they had PSYOPs.
00:40:41.000Uh, they're Psychological Operations, which is, you know, encompasses various forms of propaganda, like you had mentioned.
00:40:47.000Um, and it wasn't real clear, you know, not to get too technical into the whole world of the way the Pentagon is organized, but it's not real clear why that's at NorthCom.
00:40:57.000Well, I can enlighten you myself, and I'm sure our listeners can.
00:41:02.000We're actually on the radio in Colorado Springs.
00:41:10.000Part of the Colorado Radio Network is one of our affiliates there.
00:41:14.000Well, if there's anybody there who can clue me in, please, you can send me an email to Justin at Page15.com.
00:42:14.000Well, the interesting thing is that when the idea for this Office of Strategic Influence, this OSI office, was floating around a couple years ago, the big news was that they were talking about doing propaganda efforts on friendly countries.
00:42:27.000And that we do, apparently we do, do propaganda efforts against enemy countries, but the idea that we'd be doing it against countries like England and Australia.
00:42:36.000Our journalist working there was controversial.
00:43:00.000I mean, that's one of the... It's interesting.
00:43:02.000That's an argument that goes I think both ways.
00:43:04.000That's one argument, you know, that says, well, there are no really borders when it comes to information anymore.
00:43:09.000And certainly, as I've been doing some of my background reading and talking with experts on PsyOps, they say that's exactly why we have to have operations anywhere there's information, because the information that's generated in the U.S.
00:43:26.000Well, this is like sliding down a razor blade into a pool of alcohol for the country because, I mean, we know the government's been manipulating the media for at least 40, 50 years.
00:43:37.000There were congressional church hearings, the Blue Bird, Mockingbird, excuse me, I was thinking of Blue Beam, I crossed the two, Operation Mockingbird.
00:43:49.000We know a lot of key people in the media also pulled down a couple hundred G's Well, this is the interesting thing, and I mentioned this in the article.
00:43:59.000They came out and said they weren't going to do it.
00:44:01.000coming out in the open, but their first big lie was, okay, we decided not to do this now. - Right.
00:44:07.000Well, this is the interesting thing, and I mentioned this in the article.
00:44:09.000They came out and said they weren't gonna do it.
00:44:11.000And then, last October, they slipped about $300,000, which really is not a whole lot of money by military standards, to a Pentagon contract, or SAIC, to develop a strategic influence plan.
00:44:23.000And that was, we didn't really get a whole lot of information about that other than that's what the New York Times reported.
00:44:28.000And then we didn't hear anything else about it.
00:44:29.000Uh, and then this job description pops up and lo and behold SAIC's, uh, uh, one of the ones bidding for the contract that includes this position.
00:44:38.000Um, so, uh, and SAIC I believe holds, uh, I believe they hold staffing contracts that NorthCom as well.
00:44:44.000There's a large, as you probably know, intelligence operation going on at NorthCom.
00:44:49.000They do all sorts of intelligence analysis from information coming in from everywhere.
00:44:56.000The Pentagon gets information from the DIA.
00:44:58.000Yeah, they're one of those filter points.
00:45:00.000But, I mean, look, we know there's evidence everywhere that they're doing this big time.
00:45:07.000I mean, I'm sure you heard about the fake letters from troops with fake signatures.
00:45:12.000Oh, I love the war, the Iraqis love us.
00:45:24.000I mean, the problem that you get into here, and I think largely looked at it from the perspective of an American citizen, or especially a journalist, The issue of where that comes from isn't quite as important, but in terms of figuring out what's going on and why, and what laws are being broken, if they are, the question is, is that something that happened to occur to a colonel in the field and so ordered it to be done, or is it something that was cooked up at some sort of psyops operation and run that way?
00:45:55.000Well, I think it's pretty obvious, especially when you look at the pattern.
00:46:00.000So what do we know that the Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence, what are they up to right now?
00:46:05.000I mean, are they still claiming that they don't exist?
00:46:26.000You know, they don't put the stuff up on billboards anymore.
00:46:28.000It's not always easy to know what's going on.
00:46:31.000An interesting note is that the Office of Strategic Influence, that was under Doug Feith, who is, I'm sure the name is all too familiar to you, but has been involved in the alternative intelligence operations at the Pentagon and trying to come up with good, quote unquote, intelligence regarding the war in Iraq and other issues.
00:46:55.000Yeah, so we've got the same players over and over again, the same civilian contractors, the same operations popping up in a redundant fashion.
00:47:08.000When you talk to NorthCom, though, at first they tried to deny this.
00:47:13.000Well, at first they wouldn't say anything about it.
00:47:15.000Which is more suspicious than a denial.
00:47:17.000But they just said, you're talking about operational things, and we can't comment on that.
00:47:21.000And I said, well, you know, we're talking about illegal things, because you're not allowed to be doing influence operations, you know, PsyOps within the US.
00:47:40.000And then he asked to see the documents that I was referring to, that this was coming from.
00:47:45.000So I sent him the documents, and it wasn't until three or four days later, and they apparently had to do a bunch of running around on their end to figure out what to say and what to tell me, that they came out and said that I know that they didn't do this, that it was illegal, it was obviously illegal, and that it wasn't anything that they'd do.
00:48:01.000And then when I would say, well, point blank, do you have psychological operations being run out of NORTHCOM?
00:48:08.000When I asked him directly, he would say no.
00:48:10.000But then I would say, is there any coordination between FIOPS and your public affairs?
00:48:15.000Because even if they aren't doing direct FIOPS, even if FIOPS isn't directly involved in running propaganda campaigns, the idea that they would coordinate messages with public affairs is somewhat troubling for a person in my position who spends all day talking to public affairs people.
00:48:31.000Exactly, but Justin Rude, again from Salon Magazine, Look, if we have CENTCOM running psychological operations and we have SOUTHCOM doing it and we have the other geographical groups doing this, And then they set one up for America, it's going to run under the same model.
00:49:08.000And I think that you're tapping into another kind of function here that you get a lot inside the Beltway, which is that if somebody else has it, I want it too.
00:49:17.000You know, and if somebody, um, you know, has been working over at South Com, or was over at North Com, or, you know, you find out that one place just opened up their own ice cream parlor, you want to get an ice cream parlor at North Com too, you know?
00:49:27.000So it's, um, there's that kind of bureaucratic wrangling, which unfortunately doesn't have as much to do with looking at, um, constitutional responsibility.
00:49:34.000When you study this in depth, um, you write a scholarly report that's been read by members of Congress and others, um, I mean this is just amazing to have this happening here and I'm sure you've got comments about this new domestic security czar that they're now talking about being independent from Congress and maybe even the President.
00:50:02.000Um, yeah, and it's actually, it's really interesting because, you know, as much as, as much as there are strange things going on out there, Alex, as much as you've got kind of, you know, what look like sort of, um, you know, illegal operations and whatnot and everything else, there's a lot of really good people who are trying to do a lot of really good things in the CIA and the FBI and elsewhere.
00:50:19.000And when I talk to people, senior officials and former senior officials from the CIA, from the FBI and other intelligence organizations, they all, um, they all say, you know, this is a horrible idea.
00:50:32.000Especially because the issue of having domestic intelligence being under the White House and not beholden to other areas is a particularly dangerous one and one that they've spent a lot of their lives trying to protect.
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00:56:04.000Why is the Secret Service treating harmless professors and pacifist homeless advocates like they're members of Al-Qaeda?
00:56:21.000But the last few minutes we've got left here in this hour, Justin, Can you get into this new mega, super agency that's going to oversee all the other agencies and be outside Congress's purview?
00:56:34.000Yeah, well, the only thing that makes it difficult to talk about is that we don't really know what form it's going to take, but they've been talking about creating this National Counterterrorism Center, you know, that came out of the 9-11 Commission report.
00:56:48.000You know, the scariest thing about it is they want to combine... excuse me, I have a horrible cold.
00:56:54.000They want to combine domestic intelligence and foreign intelligence control in the same office.
00:57:01.000And that raises some important concerns because as one former FBI guy said, and as a former CIA guy said, you don't want the CIA doing in the US what the FBI does in the US.
00:57:13.000doing, you know, running their ops in the U.S.
00:57:26.000It makes it even harder to get back to a point where, you know, we have the kind of civil liberties that a lot of people are looking for.
00:57:33.000Well, I agree with you, but also this tactic of creating a new agency that then is separate from Congress It will then command and control the other agencies.
00:57:44.000The 9-11 Commission has said what they want.
00:57:50.000And it's a pretty scary thing, because frankly the government can't find enough, in my opinion, crooks to carry out what they want to do here in this country.
00:57:59.000And so they're going to create their own groups, staff it with their own minions, their own corporate private enforcers in many cases, these mercs, and then This is a danger to our country itself and the continuity of our government.
00:58:13.000This just smacks of internal security force of the Führer.
00:59:28.000He writes for Congressional Quarterly Homeland Security, a scholarly publication run by members of Congress and the government in DC.
00:59:36.000His columns are picked up by major publications like Salon.com and many others.
00:59:41.000Last hour we talked about A hiring ad he found put up by Northcom, our military owners basically, there in Colorado Springs, wanting to hire disinformation deception officers to plant fake news stories here in the US and abroad.
01:00:02.000And then we got into the new domestic super-intelligence czar that will be outside Congress' purview, and he said that 100% of FBI and CIA people he talks to are against this, and half of them because they want the FBI to keep its power, and the other half, in his words, because they think it's unconstitutional and dangerous.
01:00:20.000Folks, this is the Gestapo, the Emperor's Praetorian Guard.
01:00:25.000Very, very serious, and the committee that Bush appointed Most of them business partners with him called for this and it's very very scary and notice Kerry's calling for it too.
01:00:57.000Spending a few more minutes on why these CIA and FBI people you talk to are against this, Mr. Ruud, then I'm going to come back and get into your other article on Salon Protection or Paranoia.
01:01:06.000But continuing, when you talk to these officers in D.C., and you talk about this new domestic control arm, and when you talk about the Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence that admits they lie to us and plant stories, when you talk to them, what do they say about this, that 50% that are against this for constitutional reasons?
01:01:52.000This never happens, and we'll, uh, we'll, uh, We'll find out exactly what in the world is going on and talk to you here in just a few minutes.
01:02:02.000We're about to break anyways and we'll get into this.
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01:02:07.000You can be on with us for another segment where we get into these two subjects.
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01:07:19.000When you talk to these CIA and FBI people who you say are a hundred percent against this new domestic intelligence czar and this new unaccountable agency, and you say half of them are against it for constitutional reasons.
01:07:41.000The concern is that the FBI, even post-Pay Fee Act, still has to abide by the rules of the Attorney General in getting warrants to do these sorts of things, and even though those protections have been eroding, They're still there.
01:07:54.000The CIA, their specialty is breaking into houses, stealing stuff, you know?
01:07:59.000And the bottom line was, the CIA, the folks from the CIA say, we don't want to be running these sorts of operations against U.S.
01:08:06.000We're here to run against enemy countries.
01:08:09.000And the FBI says, you know, we have these protections, and when you take this out of the Attorney General's Office, when you move this into the White House, especially when you move it into the White House, you're making it political, You're putting it, you're making it rife for abuse from, you know, in kind of J Edgar Hoover-esque ways of doing spying on political opponents and things like that.
01:08:30.000And you don't have the kind of protections that you have even, you know, even now.
01:08:38.000I mean, this is what ought to scare us.
01:08:39.000The Democrats, the Republicans, and then the 9-11 Commission report blamed Congress, if any group in government, you know, wasn't involved and hasn't done anything wrong other than giving up too much authority, it's Congress!
01:08:54.000So, with one hand they beat Congress over the head and say, you better give us what we want!
01:08:59.000We want you to give up your authority to the President!
01:09:02.000Then, meanwhile, they've given their authority up on trade, they've given up their authority on the borders, they're giving up their authority on everything, and really setting up a dictatorial system, which the IMF and World Bank are lobbying for on a global scale with all client countries, And, uh, yeah, the CIA, folks, I mean, snatching grabs, assassinations, spying on people.
01:09:23.000We've caught the CIA trafficking in narcotics in relationships with major police departments, and you can argue that's rogue groups or the agency itself.
01:09:32.000The point is, this is classical tyranny, and it's refreshing to hear that when you talk to these individuals, that they are all concerned, but as you say, for different reasons.
01:09:45.000When I make these phone calls and I talk to them and they say these things, it does my heart good to know that they're thinking about this stuff and concerned with it.
01:09:53.000You know, a lot of these people rose up in the ranks of both the CIA and the FBI after some of the worst abuses in the 60s and 70s and learned from good experience that when you do that, you run a risk of getting caught.
01:10:08.000And you don't want to have that happen, and they believe in the mission of some of these organizations and the intended mission when they were first created, and want to see it survive and actually do something good.
01:10:19.000So I don't want to be a counterweight to some of your points, Alex, but there are some good people out there, very good in the system.
01:10:27.000We're trying to get some good stuff done.
01:10:50.000We've caught the CIA kidnapping people and doing mind control experiments.
01:10:54.000I mean, that's all come out in Congress.
01:10:55.000So, my point is that you give unlimited power to anybody.
01:11:00.000Over time, it's going to have a race to the bottom, because no oversight causes that.
01:11:05.000And our Founding Fathers said we need a separation of powers, and to have this huge race to consolidate authority in the executive is the classic sequence of events, or the classic field or paradigm reading that always creates tyranny.
01:11:29.000No, you're absolutely right, and I think that there's, um, you know, this is, I live in Washington, I report in Washington, and so much of this just seems like, uh, improvised theater, you know, going on between the two, between the two, between the Democrats and the Republicans, and the Congress and the White House, but, you know, but it is a very serious issue, and I don't think that especially as the debate is raging over this new counterterrorism, this new intelligence star, this new counterterrorism center, people realize, you know, what the, what the really important constitutional issues are that are at stake.
01:11:58.000Well, what's happening is, all of this, I mean, Ridge puts out a four-year-old or three-and-a-half-year-old terror report on Sunday, and surprise, surprise, on Monday, Bush announces his initiative for this, which is a good backdrop for it.
01:12:15.000I mean, it's very transparent what's happening here, and now they're saying brace for terror attacks.
01:12:21.000They told U.S. News and World Report that it was going to happen.
01:12:25.000The only thing you can do is give your rights up, and then we can keep you safe.
01:12:28.000So I'm worried that we're going to have a big terror attack, and we're going to get the national draft, our new domestic KGB or Stasi, and just the end of this country completely.
01:12:40.000There's a lot of stuff, Alex, I'd like to say is unimaginable, and you'd say that it would never happen here.
01:12:44.000And certainly I think some of those things could be.
01:12:47.000But on the other hand, if you asked somebody four or five years ago if you would have thought we would have gone to war in Iraq or some of these other things would have happened, I think they would have said the same thing.
01:12:54.000So it's certainly made life interesting.
01:12:58.000Well, let's spend a few minutes on this great article you've written, and this is again posted at Salon.com, or you said Page15.com?
01:13:23.000There was an incident that took place a couple weeks ago in Duluth, Minnesota.
01:13:27.000There was a Bush-Cheney 04 rally, a presidential campaign rally, and President Bush was appearing.
01:13:34.000And it was an interesting choice, because Duluth is a majority democratic city.
01:13:39.000Minnesota is a pretty democratic state.
01:13:41.000But it's also, and I don't think there's a link between the two, but it's also pretty heavy in terms of terrorist arrests that you've seen.
01:13:49.000You know, Moussaoui was in Minneapolis, I guess, and there was this guy, Wasame, who was there as well.
01:13:57.000So the Secret Service had a good reason to be on guard, but what we found out was who they were on guard for, for the most part, seemed to be political protesters, non-violent political protesters.
01:14:08.000They had these posters put up around the security checkpoints at the event, and they were featuring these kind of mug shots, as they were described to me, these identification photos of one guy was an avowed pacifist.
01:14:25.000And another guy was a history professor at the University of Wisconsin.
01:14:29.000Nice guy, 40-year-old guy, who was also a member of the Green Party.
01:14:33.000And, you know, everybody had kind of a question as to why the Secret Service, when there's a lot of other strange people running around, happened to pick them to be the ones to watch out for.
01:14:43.000Well, also, I mean, we've had activists, conservative, liberal activists, who have no criminal record, try to fly to a political meeting and they're barred from flying.
01:14:55.000And we have protesters inside cages, inside other cages, with people aiming M60 machine guns at them, men in Darth Vader outfits.
01:15:03.000We have free speech zones, you know, a mile, two miles away.
01:15:08.000They're now arresting people, but then if you're a pro-Bush, you can stand there.
01:15:11.000We have Cheney making people sign pledges and giving them their driver's license to be able to get into a supposedly town hall meeting, then the news tells us, oh, it's an open meeting, look, everyone loves them.
01:15:27.000And for somebody, you know, like you and I, that make our living off the First Amendment, it's heartening to see in some cases that, like in Boston, that the First Amendment zones were more or less ignored by a lot of the protesters.
01:15:44.000That was a small victory, but it gave the illusion to the 290 million Americans that you're some type of criminal or two-headed demon with 12 eyes.
01:16:07.000No, I mean, I think that you make some very valid points.
01:16:11.000I mean, it becomes almost comical, the sort of debate that goes on about the Great Lawn in Central Park.
01:16:18.000Which, I mean, if there was ever a piece of grass that was designed for a gathering of hundreds of thousands of people at Central Park, and they're saying they can't have a protest there.
01:16:31.000I mean, and you don't understand how they can come up with With arguments like this to stop something that's such an essential American right.
01:16:38.000You know, as far as the no-fly list and the activists that have been stopped there as well, both on the left and the right, you're absolutely right.
01:16:44.000And the ACLU of Northern California has a case going on about that right now and trying to get documents released.
01:16:51.000And that whole issue of who gets on these lists and how can you find out if you're on the list.
01:16:56.000I was at a great congressional hearing with the head of the Terrorist Screening Center, which was supposed to keep track of all these watch lists.
01:17:02.000And one of the congressmen said, you know, how do you find out if your name is on the list and how do you get it off if it's not supposed to be?
01:17:10.000And the person who runs the center, Donna Bicella, said, well, that's easy.
01:17:15.000You would contact us and we're setting up an office and somebody will write you back and let you know if you're not on the list.
01:17:21.000And the congressman said, well, but what if I am on the list?
01:17:24.000And there was a whole bunch of whispering that went on at the table.
01:17:26.000And then she turned on her microphone and said, well, we probably wouldn't send you a letter in that case.
01:17:32.000So, the new precedent is, you can't, this is going to be in buses and trains now too, or fly, and then, oh, you can't have a car.
01:17:40.000I saw Ridge two years ago at a C-SPAN meeting, say you're going to have a car to have a job, it'll be on your license, what security clearance you have to have any job, and this is going to be our new life, is we're all going to have a color coding, and I guess you just can't do anything or go anywhere.
01:17:54.000That's like Nazi Germany, where whole groups have no recourse, and there's no charges, they don't arrest you, they just limit your mobility.
01:18:02.000And this is something that this Terrace Screening Center, which had originally been created to organize all of these watch lists for transportation, like you said, you're absolutely right.
01:18:13.000I mean, they say in the documents themselves that create the center that one of the purposes they'd like to use this for is for helping, for instance, to be used by private industry when they need to do security checks.
01:18:26.000So if you get your name on that list for whatever reason and you want to work at You know, for now, we'll say a nuclear power plant, but I mean, they're defining everything as critical infrastructure now, so whether it's... Have you written an article about that?
01:18:37.000Because I saw Ridge say it two years ago, and I'd like to get the documents.
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01:23:23.000Two years ago, I saw Governor Ridge at a meeting before Homeland Security even got funded, And he was there saying, you're going to have an ID card, your state driver's license, federally issued and mandated by the Maritime Administration.
01:23:37.000On that, it's going to have what your security clearance is, it's going to be critical infrastructure.
01:23:42.000He said nuclear power plants, water plants, food industry, taxi drivers, 18-wheeler drivers, and then he went on to list food service, agricultural workers, everything!
01:23:54.000And then, just last, what was it, Thursday or Friday, it was Thursday, I had the aide-de-camp, the lieutenant-on-to-the-general from the Alabama Defense Force, where they issue anyone who wants them MP arm badges, no training, uniforms, and they go search people on the city streets of Mobile, and this is going on in 30 states.
01:24:31.000You know, it's turned into such an octopus, this Homeland Security kind of apparatus, an intelligence apparatus.
01:24:37.000It's hard to understand exactly where the authorities lie.
01:24:40.000The Terrorist Screening Center is something that's under the FBI.
01:24:44.000Um, and puts, uh, and is there to assemble all these watch lists.
01:24:48.000And it's not clear, again, what happens to that program if this National Counterterrorism Center is created.
01:24:54.000Um, just to back up, just for some, some bureaucratic trivia, DHS, the Department of Homeland Security was supposed to be doing all this in the first place.
01:25:02.000That's one of the reasons they said it was going to be created.
01:25:03.000And then they decided, the White House decided that, uh, that the C.A.A.
01:25:24.000So, I mean, who knows who's on that list?
01:25:27.000If they've come up with 150,000 terrorists, I think they've really done their homework.
01:25:31.000Well, we just know that a 72-year-old rancher having his property taken goes to a land right meeting in Congress and can't fly out of Butte, Montana because he's on the list.
01:25:41.000A green activist, a 60-year-old woman with no criminal record, is going to the Green Party convention and can't get on an airplane.
01:25:49.000I mean, I've interviewed all these people, and then they go, take me off the list, and they go, no, it's national security, we can't talk to you.
01:25:55.000Now they say for every job we're going to have this done.
01:25:58.000And Ridge says Maritime, but that was two years ago.
01:26:01.000Now it's going to be the FBI, and now it's going to be the White House and the CIA.
01:26:09.000This is not among the better ideas that have come out of Washington in the last few years, to be absolutely frank.
01:26:17.000You know, they talk about using this list to screen for applicants to a job, say, you know, the example that they use when I've spoken with them is for a nuclear power plant.
01:26:27.000You know, you don't want a terrorist to get a job at a nuclear power plant.
01:26:30.000But, you know, when you start expanding... And if they don't do giant background checks anyways.
01:27:09.000The CAPS 2 system said it was going to lower your code color level, at least to yellow, to where you'd be singled out for extra screening and interrogation if you have bad credit.
01:27:33.000I think they're applying kind of an understanding of technology that's 30 or 40 years old.
01:27:38.000And they don't understand that there are much more sophisticated ways to deal with information and with people than something as blanket as pulling people out for checks because they have bad credit.
01:27:50.000I mean, we can certainly be more sophisticated with what's essentially publicly available information, like a credit check.
01:27:58.000But, again, this is kind of setting up a move towards debtor prisons.
01:28:03.000You'd lose some of your rights if you've got bad credit.
01:28:22.000All right, we're going to come back and take your calls and get into, well, talk of the national draft, and they're preparing for riots if there's a national draft, and the U.N.
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01:32:14.000wanting to come in and certify the phony elections.
01:32:19.000We need to get into draft riots feared.
01:32:23.000No matter who wins in November, conscription will return, American Free Press headline.
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01:35:35.000Uh, let's go to calls now, but I'm going to give each caller about a minute, minute and a half, okay?
01:35:39.000So say what you got to say, and we'll get to the next person to be fair.
01:35:42.000Mike in Colorado, go ahead, you're on the air, sir.
01:35:47.000Uh, I was wondering, have you heard, uh, about the, uh, on 9-11, the plane that, uh, the United Airlines plane that crashed into the building, that it didn't have windows?
01:35:59.000Well, I've looked at the video, and Davon Kleiss has covered that and done a great job, and it doesn't look like it has windows, and eyewitnesses said that.
01:36:06.000The first plane, and they're not happy that there's video of that, and there's a weird pod on the bottom of the other one.
01:37:19.000Hi Alex, I wish that I could ask the man a question, but maybe if you ever get him back on you could ask him if he has any contact with Congressman Ron Paul.
01:37:27.000The reason I'm saying that is an experience this weekend where I got to talk to a state rep that I do like, I've been involved with on some of this No Child Left Behind, and I find it interesting that now that Bush is running, it seemed to turn into pretty much of a Bush-Cheney rally.
01:37:45.000I tried to feed information to people, but As usual, I was kind of, uh... So explain this to me.
01:37:51.000I mean, No Child Left Behind is socialism, social workers, the psychological testing of children, the breakup of the family, 12-hour school days, they want to make them go to 8 o'clock at night, lazy parents, of course, will do that because they don't have to take care of their children.
01:38:03.000I mean, that's what No Child Left Behind is, federal testing, all this, but I'm confused about the context of a Cheney rally, No Child Left Behind?
01:38:11.000Well, I'm just saying it just, it became, uh, Basically, it was kind of a pig race for a representative that I do like.
01:38:26.000Right, and what I'd like to ask this man, because we have so many bills and he's so close to Congress, he could help us, because we hear this all the time, you know.
01:38:34.000Well, this is going to do this, and this is going to give more power to this, and all this kind of stuff.
01:38:48.000I meant that you've helped us through this, but the point is...
01:38:51.000That in that situation, he could get a hold of Ron Paul and start following what he's doing, and he could whisper in the ears of some of these congressmen that, oh, they feel so overwhelmed because all this stuff is happening.
01:39:00.000Well, I mean, this guy writes for Salon and a bunch of other big publications, but he writes directly, you know, to advise Congress and other people, and he's saying 100% of CI and FBI talk to are upset, Uh, and uh, half of them think that, you know, I mean, I said this could be a dictatorship, and he said yes.
01:39:19.000I mean, even mainstream people like Justin Rude are starting to freak out, and he said 100%.
01:39:25.000And see, that's the experience I've had.
01:39:28.000But what I'm saying here is, the solution to my question, okay, about what are we going to do now, No Child Left Behind, isn't it still a problem?
01:39:36.000Then I wanted to know, Uh, you know, what are we going to do?
01:39:39.000I got this, you know, stare look in my eye here and I was trying to bring up the point that states will have to How can this guy who studies Homeland Security, how does this deal with that with Ron Paul?
01:39:56.000Because what I'm saying here is UNESCO.
01:39:59.000It takes Congressional authority off of our Congressmen and then they're all supposed to be law enforcement.
01:40:03.000Oh yeah, that's a great example that we have Congress giving away its authority on trade, on UNESCO, yes.
01:40:10.000Okay, so what I'm going to say here, and I'll try to say it as quick as I can, is the proposal that came out was Okay, uh, the states are gonna, uh, the school districts can fight this now.
01:40:20.000They can put a referendum before the people when it's time to raise taxes.
01:40:23.000And my question to the state rep, who I thought was fighting this, but now all of a sudden, because Bush is in, he has to get Bush in, and we'll figure out... Finish!
01:40:31.000Okay, uh, the, the referendum, I said, well, when that school district is forced under that, uh, federal law from the, from the government to make sure that that child that comes in isn't illegal, has to have that language.
01:40:57.000I'm calling because, as a Christian, I have to tell you that it's disheartening that me and you cannot have a discussion without you attacking me and you telling me that I'm demonizing you.
01:41:11.000Yet you can speak to David Icke with more respect than you do me.
01:41:16.000And so I just have to say that I don't appreciate that, but I do like the work that you're doing.
01:41:24.000And, you know, the issue of the issues that you won't speak towards, you give David Icke a show.
01:41:33.000And I understand if you don't want to talk about people, but it's very dangerous.
01:41:36.000For example, when you have an FBI agent, I don't even know who you are.
01:42:01.000You got mad because I said, send me some links for people you want me to interview about the debate if we ever went to the moon.
01:42:10.000And then I mentioned, you know, they even made a Hollywood movie about that, Capricorn 1, and you say, Stop twisting it.
01:42:19.000Ooh, you're on to something chilling here.
01:42:21.000I mean, I'm just up here talking, and people need to send me links to who they want me to interview.
01:42:26.000I said, I think it's interesting, I'll talk about it.
01:42:28.000And then you're off, you know, to the races about, uh, last time you called about charlatans and conspiracies and all this, and then you try to plug your website.
01:42:37.000I'm not gonna have somebody, you know, who just thinks this show belongs to them and they're gonna call up and plug their website and they're gonna gripe at me and think I'm bad.
01:44:35.000Even in America, where we have freedom in the Bill of Rights, when you are a soldier or sailor or airman, you sign a contract of indentured servitude when you're on the military reservation, whether it be an army base or an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea.
01:44:51.000Once you do that, you don't have any rights.
01:44:54.000And so all they've done is simultaneously set up admiralty courts, which they call uniform commercial courts or They have all these different terms for them, and here's an example.
01:45:09.000The Campo Board of Central Texas signed over all authority of Austin, Williamson County, Hayes County, Travis County, all our authority, over to an unelected private state body.
01:45:23.000That serves the pleasure of the bankers.
01:46:20.000What they really did is they made them indentured servants or wards of the state under that amendment.
01:46:26.000And so instead of saying you're a free human being who has, you know, who has the Bill of Rights, no, now all Americans have this special designation.
01:46:36.000Good points, good to hear from you Malta.
01:48:44.000The tips and info wars dot com or uh... the uh... prison planet email address and we'll get that posted and play a clip of that but but uh... you know what?
01:48:53.000Sir, I've got to cover this draft article but will you hold... I'm just going to pass that on.
01:49:08.000Folks, that's like saying you've never... Let's say you're a VP at ExxonMobil, and it's like saying you've never heard of the CEO.
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01:53:10.000Draft riots feared no matter who wins in November, draft will return.
01:53:15.000They're batting about 100% in American Free Press right now.
01:53:20.000Regardless of the outcome of next November's presidential election, The federal government will initiate a military draft in 2005 unless there is a dramatic slackening in the need for U.S.
01:53:31.000troops for an ongoing war in Iraq and for peacekeeping duties around the world.
01:53:36.000Last June, the Senate overwhelmingly passed a bill to increase the size of the Army by 20,000 persons and a month earlier, the House voted to add 30,000 soldiers and 9,000 Marines.
01:53:49.000And current trends continue, several military experts have told American Free Press, voluntary enlistments will not even dip the number of troops America will need.
01:53:57.000That's why 20% in Iraq are illegal aliens from Mexico, folks.
01:54:06.000What is going to happen in late August at the Republican National Convention in New York City, they will see a precursor of what will take place when the nation starts drafting young men, and perhaps even women.
01:54:19.000It is expected that hundreds of thousands of demonstrators will converge upon New York to protest Bush administration's involvement in Iraq, a situation that may become similar to what happened in Chicago in 1968 when the Vietnam War and the selection of Vice President Hubert Humphrey for the presidency of the Democratic Convention there sparked massive protests that turned violent.
01:54:37.000There are already signs that there will be massive demonstrations against the Bush administration's war.
01:54:43.000By the way, I may be gooing, by the way.
01:54:47.000This level of danger gets me all excited.
01:54:50.000There are already signs that there will be a mass of demonstrations against the Bush administration's war on Iraq and the New York Convention, and with the possibility of terrorist attacks, a major consideration.
01:55:01.000Federal, state, and local police officials are clearly concerned that the mass of demonstrations they expect may turn very ugly.
01:55:10.000When the federal government initiates a draft to meet its military manpower needs, which it no longer can do under an all-voluntary system, something the Pentagon clearly knows, there will be an outpouring of public sentiment against it.
01:55:21.000Drafting means that the government, programmed to conscript young women and men, and probably women, taking into account the inefficient and unworkable unisex military, is likely to cause a flap that will dwarf the Vietnam War protest.
01:55:36.000That's why they've been gearing up with their Darth Vader outfits beforehand in federal training.
01:55:40.000And may equal the Civil War era draft riots in New York in ferocities.
01:55:44.000Those riots required military force to control.
01:55:48.000Already campus protesters are warming up to fight the coming draft.
01:55:53.000As an example, a recent article in the Daily Texan, a student newspaper of the University of Texas, President Bush's home state, compared the draft to slavery because someone else owns your body and mind.
01:56:04.000Actually, the Pentagon has already instituted sort of a draft called Stop Loss Orders.
01:56:10.000It has blocked the retirement of 40,000 soldiers, many of the National Guard and Reserves, both of which have been drawn down to dangerous levels by expanded deployments, which has Wrecked the recruitment process to produce the needed manpower.
01:56:24.000The Pentagon currently has in place a recruitment program to find 11,000 volunteers to reactivate 2,000 local draft boards around the nation, which should make it obvious that there is a draft looming just down the road.
01:56:38.000Neither President Bush or the Democratic nominee, Senator John Kerry, is likely to bring the matter up until after the presidential election.
01:56:45.000That would, they realize, be political no-brainer.
01:56:50.000And I would just add the Daily Texan also reported in the Wall Street Journal that we have secret military troops in suits marching around threatening people at UT that are politically active.
01:57:00.000And then we just talked to people in Alabama who are out searching small children on street corners in their military uniforms training us how to be slaves.
01:57:08.000And that's why five, six, seven years ago they started issuing the Darth Vader outfits, the riot vehicles, the Humvees, the microwave guns, all of this.
01:57:17.000See, they've taken your right to vote.
01:59:09.000Fake beheading videos, and just... But right now, let's go back to Dan in Texas.
01:59:15.000We had to cut him short in the last hour, so I brought him back up.
01:59:18.000He was listening to NPR, the Diana Raine Show, and Tommy Franks, who's making the rounds in a systematic military fashion on TV and radio and in the newspapers, That's what I told listeners last week.
01:59:34.000I said, you want to call this guy when he's on C-SPAN or something and say, what do you mean Bush never had a plan to go into Iraq?
01:59:41.000His own PNAC documents advised the Pentagon to prepare for it and they said they were going to go into Iraq and that Saddam wasn't a threat.
01:59:49.000Well, Dan says he heard Franks get confronted by a caller about this.
02:00:14.000He was asked, in his service as CENTCOM commander, up to the invasion of Iraq, Uh, had he ever heard of, was he familiar with P-Nack?
02:00:30.000And, uh, the caller specifically mentioned the two names of Paul Wolfowitz and William Crystal.
02:00:35.000And, uh, he admitted, of course, that he was familiar with, uh, Paul Wolfowitz and William Crystal's names.
02:00:43.000Uh, and that Paul Wolfowitz was, uh, obviously Assistant Secretary of Defense.
02:00:48.000But then he very expressly denied Having ever heard of FNAC or having any familiarity with its operations prior to the invasion of Iran.
02:01:06.000And I just, I'm in no position to refute his expressed denial that he's familiar with FNAC prior to the invasion, but I find it incredibly difficult to believe.
02:01:24.000uh... that uh... you know it's like when you see a homeless person with tracks all over their arms and bruises all over them begging for money with a desperate look in their eye you can tell they're injecting heroin and uh... you know looking at Frank's whose bosses were all members of this preeminent group that took over the pentagon and has been there for twenty five years and it's been all over the news about the prior knowledge and he's out there stumping saying oh no we never planned to go into iraq oh no we never said that
02:01:55.000Clark and others have all been on record about being in meetings, and I believe Frank was in those, talking about the plans to go into Iraq.
02:02:04.000Well, I know his statement about no plans to go into Iraq on Fox.
02:02:24.000And you look at all the names on that list, including Dick Cheney, and then for this CENTCOM commander to expressly deny that he had any familiarity with that organization.
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02:06:30.000Uh, it was the Khalil Bin Laden footage that you had asked me for.
02:06:33.000Oh yes, when they tried to do a bait and switch, they admit the government flew a bunch of Saudis and Bin Ladens out on the 13th, 14th, 15th when all air traffic was grounded, but then they tried to do a bait and switch.
02:06:47.000And then I wanted to let you know that General Tommy Franks was also on the Hannity Radio Show for an hour.
02:06:52.000screen and then oh look they were screened.
02:06:54.000Yes, I did get that and thanks a million.
02:06:58.000And then I wanted to let you know that General Tommy Franks was also on the Hannity radio show for an hour and I emailed you that just after midnight.
02:07:12.000He was saying the same thing about his premonition about 9-11.
02:07:16.000The towers falling into each other, but no one knew.
02:07:20.000The CIA was just running a drill that morning of flying hijacked jets into it, and just so happened to use that drill to order NORAD to stand down, but it's all accidental.
02:07:29.000Yeah, and he talked about, like, what's worse than war would be five 9-11s, and that his biggest fear would be that You know, the police would be militarized after 9-11, but it didn't happen and he was so happy about that.
02:07:45.000But then he added, then he added to that, at least from the Fox clip we played and his news articles that he's written, interviews he's done.
02:08:27.000And I also wanted to tell you that Robert Kennedy Jr.
02:08:30.000was on Hannity last Monday, and I sent you that transcript too.
02:08:35.000And he talks about, well of course he's a Democrat, but he talks about the Bush administration basically learning well from the Nazis.
02:08:45.000And I have some quotes written down that he said.
02:08:50.000And again, Democrats hear that and think, oh, our party must be good, they're telling the truth, but then they give full solutions like, let's have the U.N.
02:09:16.000Well, I totally am against that, of course, because I know how the U.N.
02:09:20.000really is, and, you know, how they're known to go around the world killing children and, you know, people, and they're just trying to take over the world, basically.
02:09:29.000Well, this is exactly, but this is what I've said.
02:09:31.000Why can't we have what Congressman Rush Holt wants, and what the American people want, en masse, and what's constitutional, to have a paper ballot, even if they're going to keep the electronic machines in, which they shouldn't, which have been proven to be a deliberate fraud, coast to coast,
02:09:47.000But even if it's accidental, they admit it's cheating everybody coast-to-coast, and their own engineers have gone public and said it's all a fraud, but why is the League of Women Voters, why are the Democrats, why are the Republicans lobbying, that is the power elite, those in high positions, to not have there be a paper ballot printed out that goes in a box To show a record to be meshed against the electronic numbers.
02:10:14.000Why can't we just have machines that can be audited properly?
02:10:18.000Oh, but don't worry, the UN is coming, but it says they can't be within 50 feet of the front door of the polling place and are not allowed to talk to anyone.
02:10:26.000So, again, it is just the headline UN to monitor to get us used to that.
02:10:33.000Well I sent you probably about an hour of footage also on the whole paper ballot thing and they were on C-SPAN and it was some lady that was in charge of it for her state and she was talking, she got up and showed like a ten foot long receipt of what a paper ballot would look like if they actually used paper ballots and she was just The whole thing was about, there's no way we can do this, it's ridiculous.
02:10:59.000What you do is, is you go in, and you go and you vote, and then a one-sheet prints out with what the votes were, that's done in a Scantron bubble sheet format, or that can be hand-counted, and I know, I've seen them.
02:12:34.000I was just watching the news and realizing that every time that Bush wants more money, they just call the terrorists and say, uh, we need to threaten the oil.
02:12:43.000So now this morning they shut down oil production to raise our oil prices even more.
02:12:54.000Oh, there's going to be a new terror alert because we're about to announce a new agency.
02:12:57.000I thought we had a federal government to protect us.
02:13:02.000To keep our rights, not to every single twitch a terrorist makes to take away our rights.
02:13:08.000Every day I have to scream at all my friends who all say, you're crazy, you're crazy, this is not happening.
02:13:12.000Well, government in history is- your friends are right.
02:13:14.000Government's never been bad, it's only good.
02:13:17.000We should just submit to power and control.
02:13:19.000Anybody who disagrees with total control and government supremacy has a problem.
02:13:24.000You should- I have to look over my shoulder, literally, when I'm out in public now.
02:13:28.000I mean, I was out having a burrito yesterday and some security officer stopped and looked right in my face because I was telling my girlfriend that, you know, this election has been all set up, we're all being set up to go down, and this guy's like, what are you talking about?
02:14:06.000So he'll get his $25,000 a year to march around in a little uniform, and he'll have a little taser and a stick and a radio to call the SWAT team, and he'll be running your life!
02:14:42.000They swear to uphold the Constitution that says they're going to establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote general welfare.
02:15:38.000I mean, right now, Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, is on the air saying, Get ready to keep those 9-1-1 and those DNC Convention precautions in place.
02:15:48.000And from now on, just get used to seeing men on the streets with guns.
02:15:51.000Yeah, from Boston to New York to every city they have this, you're right.
02:17:01.000It's training you how to be a prisoner.
02:17:03.000It's having a talking head laugh at someone who has a view on TV, and the average sheeple sees that, and then regurgitates that, parrots that.
02:17:12.000And good propaganda plays to people's fears.
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02:17:27.000I mean, it's admitted, in fact, you can go read hundreds of major medical studies by major universities, but the point is, they know the average person doesn't read that.
02:17:33.000So good propaganda plays to people's fear of their, their rationale, that's not true, to play their own mental mind trick, their own double thing.
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02:22:09.000That goes for magic machines that heal you instantly, or you don't owe anybody any money, just all, you know, I'm just, I tell everybody out there, check everything out for yourselves and check me out for yourself.
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02:23:26.000This Pakistani intelligence deal where they busted Al-Qaeda.
02:23:34.000And that was the reason for the latest terror, the latest... And they've released a bunch of them because... No, no, no, no, let me finish.
02:24:54.000So anyway, a little further down in this article, which I'm sure you'll read, The whole thing smacks either of incompetence or worse than Tim Ripley, a security expert who writes the Jane's Defense publication.
02:25:48.000You know, where he said that... Excuse me, you're telling me, because they usually post a speech beforehand, you're telling me it says speech, not transcript, and they left that in?
02:26:46.000The BBC reported almost a year before 9-11 that British ambassadors were in Pakistan on the Afghan border and saw bin Laden being guarded by US Special Forces.
02:27:08.000In the New Zealand Herald, The first sentence is, the revelation that a mole within Al-Qaeda was exposed after Washington launched its orange alert this month has shocked security experts, who say the outing of the source may have set back the war on terror.
02:27:25.000I have one more thing I want to talk to you about.
02:27:26.000Well, it sounds to me, sure, it sounds to me like the outing of the source.
02:27:31.000Well, we'll talk about it when you get back.
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02:30:46.000The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
02:30:52.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:30:56.000Also, we've got one of the best, if not the best, most informed radio audiences on the planet, if not the best.
02:31:07.000And about 95% of the time when a caller calls in about an article or a statement, it's so accurate, I've got to confirm this for myself, but we'll definitely post it on InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.
02:31:21.000But we're going to get that posted today, make no doubt about it.
02:31:26.000But real quick, Jackie, finish up what you were saying.
02:31:28.000Okay, well it's in the Christian Science Monitor and it's also in the New Zealand Herald, so your listeners can go look at it for themselves.
02:31:37.000The Christian Science Monitor article is really good because it's got all these links to papers and news Agencies, you know, that are all over the world, so it's really a good source for information.
02:31:55.000The other thing I wanted to ask you about was the ACT fee thing.
02:32:00.000I'm really grateful you posted that Chronicle article on it, but I'm also interested, can you let me know where I can get a copy of the Charter, the original Charter?
02:32:13.000Because I'd like to be able to read that.
02:32:28.000There's the telecommunications, the city, and the access charter.
02:32:32.000But I'm glad you called because in the last segment I will plug where the meeting is tomorrow night where the board is going to sit up there and try to sell everybody on taking over free speech and how great it is.
02:32:45.000They've already started the merger with Austin Music Network, which will take over one of the channels to begin with, but I'll get all that information together for you.
02:32:56.000I've got to move quick now, folks, because I end up talking to callers forever and then don't get to everybody, and I've got news I want to hit here.
02:33:06.000Just telling you what I observed on the morning news here about Operation Heartland Defense.
02:33:12.000Yeah, there's over 81 organizations involved here in La Crosse, Wisconsin and the surrounding counties with this militarized so-called terrorist drill or disaster drill, but there's over 600 volunteers, 170 military units there, copters and everything else all working with the citizens and they're just trying to pass it off on the news because Nothing really big, you know, us citizens are all excited about it.
02:33:35.000Helicopters swarming, regular army, National Guard, Tattletail squads being recruited, all acclimating you to see tanks and troops and checkpoints.
02:33:46.000Yeah, I was just surprised to see it here in Wisconsin so quickly, but, you know, New World Order, coming.
02:33:51.000Well, what did the people think of it?
02:34:28.000Between September the 7th until October the 6th, Congress will be in session.
02:34:33.000I need everyone that hears this to call your Senator, call your Representative, call them every day until you receive a signed letter from them stating they realize a draft is against the 13th Amendment, they realize they took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, and that if they commit the treasonous act They will forfeit their pensions.
02:35:49.000Also, any businesses that will be adversely affected by the loss of Either the young people, either as customers or as employees, universities, high schools, trade schools, call and let them know.
02:36:03.000Because I really and truly believe our God is able to stop this.
02:36:10.000Listen, we're trying to save lives here and I agree with what you've said.
02:36:14.000But the problem is the globalists are going to carry out terror attacks.
02:36:17.000And they're going to start the new national draft, and then it's off to the races, and they've got the bills introduced, and you're absolutely right, we've got to stop it.
02:36:37.000Hey, I've heard on several talk shows here on the American Freedom Network in the past that there is a lawful and legal way around the draft.
02:36:48.000When they call you into the induction center and they give you your physical and all that stuff, when they're all done with that, then they give you the oath.
02:36:58.000You have to raise your right hand and repeat the oath.
02:37:11.000What they do, Alex, is they trick you into volunteering.
02:37:14.000What they'll do is they'll arrest a few young Hollywood people, and that does a couple things.
02:37:19.000Psychologically wise, oh, that rich person doesn't want to serve, class envy gets in, and then they'll also prosecute them, give them a year in jail.
02:37:27.000That'll create the illusion that you've got to do it, that everyone will run off and Well, here's the most important thing, Alex.
02:37:32.000They tell you to take a step forward after they give you the oath.
02:37:38.000Don't raise your hand, don't take the oath, and don't take the step forward.
02:37:43.000It's a contract, and look, the reason I wouldn't be drafted is those controlling the government are the terrorists, and this government will send me to breathe depleted uranium, which their own manuals say will make me very sick or kill me.
02:37:59.000It also They'll give me all these experimental vaccines.
02:38:03.000And then, oh, two years ago there was articles in Kansas City of people dying with maggots entering their brains at the VA hospitals.
02:38:36.000I was in the Army Rangers during the Vietnam War, and I came out a first lieutenant, so nobody can say that I'm a draft dodger.
02:38:43.000But I have talked this over with several people, including a young lady who signed up for the Navy, and her uncle, who was a recruiting officer, told her about this.
02:38:53.000She had actually signed up for the Navy, changed her mind, and he told her, well, don't take the oath and don't take the step forward.
02:40:16.000What I'm saying is, why would you now, let's say they try to call you back up, why would you say no?
02:40:22.000Oh, because I don't believe in a swore, because I've had a big change of mind.
02:40:26.000You know, I've been involved in the Patriot Movement now since the early 90s, and I've always had in the back of my mind I always had the idea that none of this stuff was correct anyhow.
02:40:42.000It seems like America has taken over for the British Empire and now we're the world policeman, the world policeman.
02:40:48.000Well, then they do such horrible things.
02:40:50.000I mean, look, every week there's a new article where right up into the mid-eighties They'd have our troops just stand out in the field and fly over and nerve gas them and kill them.
02:40:58.000I mean, that's BBC, Associated Press, and I can show people the articles the government admits.
02:42:33.000I ought to have him on the show sometime if he'd do it, but... This is somebody, you know, who's involved in all that Cold War stuff, folks.
02:43:25.000I just wanted to make a comment about a lot, because it seems like a theme today, a lot of people are talking about, you know, how do we kind of extricate ourselves from all this madness?
02:43:36.000And, you know, this is pretty advanced information, of course, but, and I think you've talked about it sometime in the past, but, you know, kind of working on the whole sovereignty thing and, and, you know, getting information on that.
02:43:49.000And I just encourage people to get information, you know, to do the research.
02:43:53.000And, you know, a few people like Winston Shrout and Bryce McLeod, And that lot seem to have a pretty good line on all this stuff.
02:44:03.000But again, I really recommend people doing research on their own, you know, to find their own path.
02:44:08.000I don't think that there is a really, you know, defined path yet.
02:44:12.000But that's, I think, our only way to freedom.
02:44:16.000You know, since we have all the pacts with all the other governments and stuff like that that you have mentioned, I don't think there's any other way.
02:44:22.000I think we just have to work within the system to get out of this.
02:44:27.000Well, I think everybody being involved.
02:44:29.000Everybody picking an issue or two to get involved in.
02:44:32.000Just go into government meetings and watch what they're doing.
02:44:35.000That's how we're going to turn things around, and I agree with you.
02:44:39.000Everybody's got a different angle they should attack in this fight.
02:44:43.000I know that there hasn't been much talk of that sort of thing, of getting out of the system, quote-unquote.
02:44:51.000But I just want to introduce people to it if they've never heard of it before and to encourage them to do some research on the internet and stuff.
02:45:25.000And it says, assessing the accumulation of evidence of a possible attack inside the U.S., a senior intelligence official tells Time Magazine that it's looking more and more like the real deal every day.
02:45:34.000Time also learns that Osama Bin Laden may already have ordered up another attack.
02:45:39.000A top Homeland Security official tells Time, we have a number of times picked up information that Al-Qaeda He wants to attack us before the election, and some of the communications attribute it to Osama Bin Laden.
02:45:51.000Of course, Bush already had focus groups publicly three months ago.
02:45:54.000Look at this, and if there's an attack, that's going to help him, even if there is an election.
02:46:13.000Back in late July, this is out of PR Web, Anton Skradovic will formally be announcing his candidacy for the 14th Congressional District in New York, which he did during a rally to protest the attempt by his opponent, Carolyn Maloney, to have the United Nations oversee our national elections this fall.
02:46:33.000And, you know, sounds good, but again, here's the problem.
02:46:38.000The UN isn't allowed 50 feet from the facilities.
02:46:43.000The UN has been caught stealing elections and helping overthrow countries all over the planet.
02:46:57.000No, the solution from the Democrats is send in the UN, which legitimizes it in people's minds as a global body, countering corruption, and gives phony conservatives something to act anti-UN about.
02:47:09.000Something to run around and scream about when it's Bush, Colin Powell, who brought these UN people in to begin with.
02:47:32.000Elections, and the left hand to monitor the right hand.
02:47:36.000We already talked about the leak at a Japanese nuclear power plant, but don't worry.
02:47:40.000No, the radiation got outside the building and everything's fine, other than four people dead and a bunch of others injured.
02:47:47.000Also, very confusing, why are they now issuing arrest warrants for Chalibi, the big torture master from Iran, the bank robber from Jordan, who was going to be the head guy over there?
02:48:01.000Why are they suddenly cutting him loose?
02:48:03.000Is this to make him look legitimate in people's eyes, or is this criminals fighting with each other?
02:48:12.000And Iraqis have reinstated capital punishment Which I wouldn't have a problem with, but again, if you have a corrupt dictatorship, a corrupt appointed government run by torture masters, the new president's just as bad or worse than Chalibi, been involved in the same stuff, can you have him doling out the death penalty?
02:48:31.000I mean, I'm for the death penalty, but I'm not for Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein or Chalibi to be doling it out, see?
02:48:37.000That's why I'm really against the death penalty.
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