Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones. He's in New York covering the Republican National Convention and will be joining me live on the show today to give us an update on things going on out there.
00:00:34.000He's been covering that for the last couple of days.
00:00:36.000He's going to be there for the next several days, covering the Republican National Convention.
00:00:41.000He will be joining me live, as he did the last two days, from New York to give us an update on things that are going on out there, things he's observing.
00:00:50.000He's got a film crew, a camera crew out there, and he's covering the thing as really, really good.
00:00:56.000And as we heard yesterday in his report, there's a lot of things going on out there.
00:01:01.000So we'll get to him today and also Paul Joseph Watson will be joining me at the bottom of this hour and he'll be bringing us up to date on PrisonPlanet.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:01:13.000Paul is also the author of Order Out of Chaos and we've got a lot of ground to cover actually and I want to invite you first of all to go to Alex's website at www.infowars.com.
00:01:27.000He's got a picture up there of the Fuji blimp that he was reporting about yesterday.
00:01:31.000It's very interesting because this blimp is unloaned to the New York City Police Department, maybe even probably the state of New York, but who knows.
00:01:41.000But nevertheless, it's packed with state-of-the-art electronic surveillance gear.
00:01:46.000And it's kind of interesting because in the article that is there with that picture of that blimp, what's really interesting is that article talks about the fact that Fuji
00:01:58.000basically makes their blimp available to folks like the police departments as they're passing through and I'm kinda wondering in some ways when they say they're passing through where they passing through from and where they going now there's an innocuous part of that as well because you know we know blimps are used at sporting events, Goodyear blimp over football games and that type of thing but a couple of years ago I saw an article in one of the tech magazines I believe it was
00:02:25.000Aviation Week and Space Technology, I believe.
00:02:28.000They were talking about blimps, high-altitude blimps, that are capable of flying at about 80-90,000 feet for sustained amounts of time.
00:02:40.000And they are, as I possibly understand it, they are in use today.
00:02:46.000And of course, their job is to surveil.
00:02:51.000And I just really think that it's kind of interesting that This kind of technology is in place and probably is being used as we speak because again, you know, we know there's a lot of activity in New York but that place is really locked down and it's locked down tight.
00:03:09.000We've heard some very interesting stories about things that are going on with the crowds there.
00:03:16.000The Zogby poll indicates that a lot of people do not believe President Bush.
00:03:20.000They believe that there was some involvement at some level.
00:03:24.000uh... by the president and others in the in the government on nine eleven and of course uh... these are people also asked the people if uh... they thought that a new investigation was in order and of course uh... an overwhelming number of sixty five percent said yes they thought that uh... a reinvestment a new investigation was in order and that elliot spitzer the attorney general from the new york should panel
00:03:53.000A new investigative team to look at 9-11 and what happened.
00:03:57.000So again, I think that we actually are turning the corner here because all indications are that a lot of people are fed up.
00:04:08.000And another interesting thing that's on Alex's website is the story about the Cary Daughters being put out on MTV and being booed.
00:04:19.000You know, MTV, as we know, was always a big fan of people like Bill Clinton.
00:04:25.000And of course, John Kerry would have been their pick.
00:04:28.000But it's kind of interesting, because when they brought the Kerry daughters out on stage, they were booed and jeered.
00:04:34.000So, I think on both sides of the fence, the game is about up.
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00:08:27.000Erskine is going to fill in for Alex and Alex will continue contacting, calling in live from New York each one of those days to update us on what is going on out there.
00:08:39.000I just want to say I've really enjoyed sitting in for Alex.
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00:10:05.000Going back to Alex's website at www.infowars.com, there are some really, really interesting stories there that are unfolding or breaking as we're talking now.
00:10:14.000For example, there is, again, I was talking about the Fuji blimp that is there in New York, high above the action, which is tied into the ground command center that has been established For the Republican National Convention.
00:10:32.000It's the command center that is commanding everything.
00:10:34.000It's like the nerve center that is commanding everything.
00:10:38.000And it's keeping everything as tight as they can.
00:10:41.000The problem is that there are a lot of people there that are very, very unhappy with the things that are going on.
00:10:49.000I want to applaud a lot of those people out there, the protesters, for their peaceful demonstrations because We kind of touched on this yesterday.
00:10:58.000It's so vitally important not to allow the provocateurs to get things stirred up so bad that there is an outbreak of violence.
00:11:08.000President Bush would love nothing more than to have an excuse to slap down martial law, call out the heavy troops, and then see where that goes.
00:11:20.000And of course, I think in some ways the agenda that the provocateurs have On the ground, and we've seen this in other places like the WTO, the provocateur's agenda is to create or cause civil disobedience to the point that the heavy-handedness has to take place.
00:11:42.000And it is not, in my opinion, this is not the way that we want to see things go because they are looking for an excuse.
00:11:49.000I mean, consider the fact that all it takes anymore with the way that things are being portrayed to us in the psychological warfare that the government has launched on us.
00:12:04.000Everybody's kind of on a hair trigger.
00:12:07.000Again, yesterday we were talking about some of the anger of people.
00:12:13.000The thing is that what we need to really do is we need to encourage this anger to be directed at positive proactive action that would Basically, let our politicians know that we're not taking any more of their stuff.
00:12:29.000That means, of course, that you vote, and you contact your politicians, you write letters to them, and you talk to other people.
00:12:39.000And education is a very vital and important aspect of this as well, because I'm amazed, and I'm sure a lot of you are too, because a lot of people listening to this program Are very constitutional minded and know and understand what the Constitution is and how we are, it's us.
00:13:00.000And a lot of people don't need to be told that, but I'm amazed at how many people don't know what it's all about.
00:13:08.000I mean, even in this election, you can talk to people on the street and you can ask them who they're going to vote for.
00:13:15.000And they give you the answer and then you say, well, why do you vote for that person?
00:13:22.000What's appealing to you about that person?
00:13:24.000And you're very hard-pressed in a lot of cases, especially among younger people.
00:13:29.000You're very hard-pressed in most cases to find any kind of an intelligent answer.
00:13:34.000It's mostly based on emotional reactions to the propaganda that's being put out there.
00:13:42.000You know, the anything anybody but Bush campaign is nothing more than a partisan campaign to basically keep everybody corralled into the bipartisan camp regardless of who they vote for.
00:13:56.000And of course, Alex's video, American Dictators, this is his new video, American Dictators, shows and demonstrates this dynamic.
00:14:05.000Because what happens is, if they can keep you corralled Into the bipartisan camp, meaning that you're either Democrat or Republican.
00:14:14.000If they can keep you in that camp, they've got you.
00:14:17.000Because it doesn't matter who you vote for, it doesn't matter anymore who becomes President.
00:14:23.000Because either way, the New World Order wins.
00:14:30.000And they're also members in Skull and Bones.
00:14:33.000Now, this is the problem that I'm talking about here, is that it doesn't matter to the New World Order, to the architects of that, it doesn't matter, because they are controlling both sides.
00:14:44.000And this is kind of the Hegelian dialectic, which has been used so many times in politics.
00:14:51.000It's been used for centuries, actually, throughout the world.
00:14:55.000I mean, you can look at, trace conflicts in societies, in countries, you can trace these conflicts And you can, if you get into it and you follow the money and you look at what's going on, you begin to realize that provocateurs and agents, agentures of the architects of the New World Order, are always present.
00:16:03.000So, again, when I'm making the statement that Bush is no conservative, the Republican Party is not a conservative party, then you have to come to the logical conclusion that they're both on the left.
00:16:19.000They have to be on the left, because any time that you have social welfare, it is a socialist ideal To redistribute your wealth.
00:17:14.000But anyway, be sure and check out Alex's new film, American Dictators.
00:17:19.000Again, the subtitle of it is Documenting the Staged Election of 2004.
00:17:23.000A quote from Alex on this is, The future but we've studied human history and regardless of who wins November election 2004 the new world order wins and that is a quote from Alex Jones and of course he's right because like I said they are controlling both sides and as long as they can keep you corralled into that camp they're going to stay in power and you're going to be Your country and everything else is going to be sold out from under you.
00:18:28.000And of course, they're going to have to take a long, hard look at it.
00:18:32.000And of course, that kind of thing will trickle down to your local politicians if you let them know, you're not going to go for this anymore.
00:18:39.000That's, I think, how we start taking our country back.
00:18:43.000But again, as I said, education is vitally important.
00:18:48.000To people that you talk to on the street, because the more people that start waking up and realizing we live in a republic, okay, and we need to take our country back, the more people that start realizing what the concepts are behind the Constitution get reacquainted with it.
00:19:04.000It's like blinders, it's like scales falling off their eyes, because they say, wow, you know, this is the way things should be, and this is the way things were set up, and this is the way they need to get back to.
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00:24:19.000Again, Michael Corbin is sitting in for Alex Jones.
00:24:21.000Alex is going to be joining me next hour to talk about the current update live from New York at the Republican National Convention.
00:24:28.000Also coming up at the bottom of the hour today, Paul Joseph Watson will join me, and we will do some updates on some of the things that are going on in his neck of the woods.
00:24:37.000He, as you know, Paul is Alex's webmaster at PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:24:43.000He's also the author of a book called Order Out of Chaos.
00:24:49.000Very interesting stuff, and as I said, it seems to me that with the kinds of things that are starting to happen here, That I think we're finally starting to turn a corner.
00:24:59.000As Alex says, you know, there's a war on for your mind.
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00:25:31.000And as we were talking, the Zogby poll indicates that a lot of people believe that President Bush and others were complicit in the events that led up to 9-11 and the attack itself.
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00:33:52.000Well, I mean, most of the stories on the website and the police date section are obviously about what's been going on at the convention and just to bring listeners up to speed.
00:34:03.000I was up until around 5am last night and into this morning keeping track of what was unfolding in New York.
00:34:10.000And the events that have taken place have been completely blacked out by the establishment media.
00:34:17.000Let's start with the arrest numbers, and this is possibly something you can ask Alex later.
00:34:23.000CNN is reporting 900 arrests made yesterday in total.
00:34:29.000And yet this completely contradicts every eyewitness report that I came across last night.
00:34:35.000The people on the ground were saying at least a thousand had been arrested by 8pm and it wasn't until 9pm that most of the mass roundups and police brutality began.
00:34:48.000As Alex mentioned yesterday, we had more reports of police using bikes and mopeds to simply run into people at high speed.
00:34:56.000And it's interesting that they used plain-clothed cops to do this, because according to the New York Daily News, that was the case.
00:35:04.000Now, obviously people are going to be wary of the police and, you know, get out of the way if they see them coming at them.
00:35:11.000They're not going to be expecting anyone, you know, in a shirt and jeans to just plow into large groups of people, which is what was reported.
00:35:21.000Furthermore, in the same article, the Daily News reports that they've been using these giant plastic nets to simply trap people and keep them in one position, including scores of journalists and tourists who were, you know, simply walking out of the subway and documenting what was going on.
00:35:41.000Um, but Mayor Bloomberg came out with an interesting statement, um, in the same article.
00:35:46.000He said, quote, this isn't something like it's supposed to be a fair fight.
00:36:01.000Which were taking place yesterday, were just completely random sweeps of anyone.
00:36:05.000They hadn't broken any laws, as is proven by the, um, paperwork when these people were being processed at what's called Pier 57, which is the temporary camp they've set up where they cram people into these tiny cages.
00:36:20.000Um, when these people were released, the police would write, don't know, next to, um, you know, the entry for the reason for arrest, which strongly suggests That it was just an order from above to conduct these mass roundups on a large scale with no reason for arrest?
00:36:38.000Well, you know, I think in a lot of ways this benefits them in a couple of ways.
00:36:42.000And that is that it's given them an opportunity to have a real trial run in real time with handling masses of people for the eventual
00:36:54.000uh... you know the total police state kind of thing because uh... it to me it when you see this kind of thing going on uh... as we talked yesterday it's so vitally important uh... that uh... that the protesters maintain a peaceful stance uh... to keep from having uh... bush to have an excuse to uh... to call out the heavy hitters uh... the troops uh... you know the thing is though is that they are it looks to me in some ways that they may be you're doing a real-time uh... examination of how
00:37:30.000But the only aggression that I came across was coming from police, and mainly plain-clothed police.
00:37:37.000We had reports of undercover cops hitting old ladies in the face, people being thrown to the ground, people being thrown against walls.
00:37:44.000And later on in the night, and Alex has talked about this a lot, they actually Rolled out the Y Armoured Humvee which holds the sound weapon, the acoustic audio weapon, which is designed to disperse large groups of people by emitting this piercing noise at high decibels.
00:38:04.000that the uh... associate press report on last week thankfully they didn't use it but i don't i don't doubt that we'd you know we'll see it's reappearance later this week something even more sickening was there was actually from the eyewitnesses uh... a policy in place to arrest uh... medical personnel on mass so that when the uh... handcuffed protesters who were brutally beaten in several different areas of the city
00:38:34.000When they were beaten, they couldn't get treatment because all the medics had been arrested.
00:38:43.000You know, the other thing, there's a couple of other things I'm seeing here on the site at PrisonPlanet.com, and that is that you've got some stories on here about this eight-year-old arrested, taken to adult jail for throwing a basketball at a child.
00:39:00.000And this follows on from previous stories, such as the one where a high schooler was arrested for wearing a baseball cap backwards.
00:39:09.000And again, this third grader, I believe it was in New Mexico, threw a basketball at a child and refused to return to class.
00:39:19.000So, I mean, they called the police and then later on the child was thrown into an adult Well, it wasn't a juvenile facility, it was an adult facility, harangued by the fellow inmates, taunted, and then only released later on, and the parents are filing a lawsuit against it, but again, it's another example of this police mentality where they will pick on the most defenseless individuals and target them.
00:39:49.000Yeah, and the final thing I want to talk about before we get to some callers and that is I heard that Bush had said yesterday, I believe it was yesterday, that we can't win the war on terror and I see an article here under the general section at PrisonPlanet.com where it says Bush has recanted and says terror war will be won.
00:40:08.000Well, he came out with the comment that it can't be won on Monday on a TV interview.
00:40:14.000He actually called into the Rush Limbaugh show yesterday in a big, you know, staged event and reversed his position, you know, the neocon worshippers.
00:40:24.000But, in a sense, The original comment is right for two reasons.
00:40:29.000One, we know who's behind the terror and it's the people above Bush who are writing his scripts.
00:40:34.000And two, even if you do believe that there are these independent terrorist groups, you can never completely eradicate terrorism because it's not a physical thing, it's a tactic.
00:40:47.000I mean, but Bush isn't making these comments for those reasons.
00:40:50.000We've been told many times that it's a war which will not only last our lifetimes, but a war which will potentially never end.
00:40:58.000And in a permanent state of war, there can exist a permanent police state and a permanent climate of fear, which will then obviously coerce people into giving up their rights in the name of security.
00:41:10.000So, Bush's comments are really, you know, the same conditioning mechanism to try to hoodwink people into living in this never-ending state of fear.
00:41:19.000And remember what Bush said right after 9-11, the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedom.
00:41:26.000And he was right, the military-industrial complex attacked us because they hate our freedom, and now they are pushing the agenda to take that freedom away.
00:41:36.000As I was mentioning earlier, it's an example of the Hegelian dialectic, because they control both sides of a conflict, but they gotta have conflict going.
00:41:43.000And of course, you know, the Cold War is supposedly over.
00:41:48.000And I think that's what this whole war on terror is cut out a whole cloth that way.
00:41:54.000Because it supplants the Cold War as the new enemy, and it proposes to go in perpetuity, which is what they are basically Saying that it's going to do it.
00:42:09.000Well, yeah, and they seek to make it immediate to people's personal lives and not just something which is happening in some foreign country.
00:42:16.000Which is why in my country, in Britain, every couple of months they have these, what they call mass terror sweeps, where they will arrest 15 to 20 individuals.
00:42:26.000Say they were planning to, you know, poison the London Underground or something like that.
00:42:31.000It'll be front page headline for three days and then quietly a week later the vast majority of those individuals are released with no evidence against them and it's in the back of the paper but what that does is it makes the people of Britain think that, you know, there are these groups of terrorist cells running around in their neighborhoods planning to blow stuff up so they try and bring it, you know, they try and give it that sense of immediacy so people feel all the more threatened by it and kowtow into fear.
00:43:29.000Uh, which is my next subject, every single day.
00:43:32.000I said, the ones that use lethal force, like the Molotov cocktails, trying to kill that policeman, I said, they should be shot.
00:43:40.000But anyway, this other subject that bothered me very bad is, the reason why we got such a divided country is because, uh, like, we have a divided government.
00:43:51.000On one side they're saying, let's try to defeat terrorism, yet you have the INS, Letting these illegals run around the country and even get away with murder.
00:44:17.000She told of where an illegal alien murdered a deputy in the state of Washington And got away with it.
00:44:26.000Now how can we just sit back and be responsible citizens and depend on the federal government to protect us when they let these people come in and run around the country and even get away with murder?
00:44:42.000And in response to your first comment, you know, I understand what you're saying about that they should be dealt with harshly and shot if they use any kind of lethal force against the police, which
00:44:54.000I think in a lot of ways that is the standard operating procedure of the police department, but the thing is, is that we still have to be mindful of the fact that we have got to not give them an excuse to drop the hammer down on everybody, and that's exactly what those provocateurs are trying to do.
00:45:13.000In response to your second question, or second comment, I agree that we are a divided nation, but you can, again, look at all these issues.
00:45:25.000The immigration, the illegal immigration issue is one of those kinds of things and how it's plugged into the war on terror is another because they're talking about we've got to stop the terrorists from coming in the country.
00:45:38.000They've spent millions if not billions of dollars on airport security but yet they do not do anything at the border and they allow tens of thousands of people in this country a month And the INS guys that are down there on the border are not allowed to do anything about it.
00:45:56.000So there is a double standard, but as far as the division in this country, you can just look at the two political parties, the Democrats and the Republicans, and I've talked about that earlier, that it doesn't matter which side you're on, they're controlling both sides.
00:46:11.000And that's something we have to start recognizing.
00:46:15.000Well, I mean, going back to the first comment about the protesters, the bottom line is that even if you don't agree with some of what these people are protesting about, and in fact some of them were pro-immigration protesters, the onslaught of brutality that they faced last night is a complete insult to the Constitution and any notion of freedom.
00:46:37.000The mainstream media, the establishment media, completely blacked it out, even though it's, you know, a so-called liberal media conspiracy, but they blacked it out.
00:46:44.000And all we hear about today is how great Arnold's speech was, you know, and how Dick Cheney's looking a little bit under the weather.
00:46:50.000But don't forget that this police state, when Kerry's elected, it will rain down on pro-life, anti-immigration, and pro-Second Amendment protesters.
00:46:59.000So I mean, the system's in place, so to support a crackdown on left-wingers is only, you know, digging your own grave when a Democrat gets in power, and all this rains down on right-wing protesters.
00:47:11.000Absolutely, and the fact still remains that under the Constitution, everybody has a right to voice their opinion and their dissent.
00:47:20.000If they don't like something, that's their right to do it.
00:47:25.000This is the idea, though, is to inflame one group over another.
00:47:28.000And that's what they really specialize in doing.
00:47:32.000The individuals that are throwing Molotov cocktails are likely to be those provocateurs.
00:47:38.000There's reports of provocateur actions coming in where black block anarchists, when they're asked which group they're affiliated with, they won't respond, and they're out there setting fire to trash cans.
00:47:50.000So we're starting to see that take place last night and into today.
00:47:55.000These individuals are there to be violent often, as we've seen numerous examples in the past, under the protection of the government.
00:48:03.000Absolutely, that's the sad fact of the whole thing.
00:48:06.000Let's take a call, Regina in Pennsylvania.
00:48:08.000Good afternoon, Regina, you're on the air.
00:48:10.000Hi, I just wanted to call in because as far as you had mentioned yesterday, somebody called in that third party can't win.
00:48:20.000I also like Michael Badner, except that his position on abortion, libertarian parties, is really with, you know, right now Laura Bush standing up and defending her husband with fetal tissue and vaccinations and her defending her husband.
00:48:38.000He's the first man that's opened up the door for us to taxpayer fund fetal tissue research.
00:48:44.000And, you know, with Carrie coming up and Once the door is open, he's going to open it more when we can use the fat tissue and the umbilical cord to accomplish this.
00:48:56.000We don't, for stem cells, we can get it that way.
00:48:58.000And I just want to say that the petitions that were passed around Pennsylvania for Michael Peruca, there were presidential electors listed.
00:49:08.000So I would just want to suggest that maybe you get Michael Peruca, Chuck Baldwin, or even Michael Bagnerich on.
00:49:14.000The reason Michael Bagnerich, he also If you could question him on the illegals, because I understand that he isn't too strong in opposition against illegal immigration, and you being as strong as you are, Mr. Portman, I'm a little surprised by your support of him, if that is the case.
00:49:33.000To me, these three probably know the Constitution and the Bill of Rights inside out, up and down, more than Bush, Kerry, any of these people other than Ron Paul.
00:49:54.000I read an article about Michael Bednarik in our Tribune Review.
00:49:57.000It was called Principles Without Paychecks and how much it cost him to go and just be able to sign in to get his nomination.
00:50:07.000He barely had money to go and pay for a motel.
00:50:10.000I can't believe that these people would just run around the country endlessly And have, you know, us try to get involved in petitions, but they didn't truly think that there was a chance for them.
00:50:20.000But at least now I know that there's been some resistance with my situation of me wanting Mr. Peruca, and even Mr. Badnerica, in the debates.
00:50:31.000I got big resistance for me wanting that.
00:50:35.000I'll address that coming back from the break.
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00:54:22.000I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who, by the way, will be joining me next hour, at the bottom of the next hour, to give us a live update from the Republican National Convention in New York.
00:54:31.000And we will look forward to that report.
00:54:35.000As Paul and I are talking, Paul Joseph Watson is online with me, and he's Alex's webmaster at PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com, also author of Order Out of Chaos.
00:54:45.000As we've been talking, the mainstream establishment media is blacking out a substantial portion of what's really happening on the ground in New York, and we're going to get a scoop from Alex about what's taking place there, coming up at the bottom of the next hour.
00:55:02.000Paul, welcome back, and let's grab another call.
00:55:04.000We've got Frank calling in from Colorado.
00:55:06.000Good morning, Frank, you're on the air.
00:55:27.000The argument is whether we go to right-wing socialism through the Republicans, which is fascism, or left-wing socialism through the Democrats, which is Marxism.
00:55:36.000Well, see, Frank, the thing is I choose to make the distinction that they're both in the same camp.
00:55:55.000Because right-wing would be you're conservative.
00:55:58.000And as far as I'm concerned, a conservative has nothing to do with any kind of overblown government and stealing your money and redistributing wealth.
00:56:09.000Yeah, that's one of the reasons I don't call myself either liberal or conservative.
00:56:15.000That basically makes me hated equally by both sides.
00:56:20.000People are very emotional about this, particularly this election year.
00:56:23.000They're very emotional about the whole thing.
00:56:25.000Yeah, the country is so divided and they don't realize that they're divided to avoid looking at what's actually going on.
00:56:32.000The direction we're going doesn't make a darn bit of difference which side gets in power.
00:56:36.000Bush or Kerry, you know you'll have a difference in the type of administration, which makes a difference to the top 10, possibly 25% of the people.
00:56:45.000The middle 50% of the people, it's really not going to make a whole lot of difference for one way or the other.
00:56:53.000Actually, the bottom 25% of the Democratic-Marxist form is probably a little bit more benign form of socialism.
00:57:04.000And that's what's got to stop, because that is not the way that this country was structured.
00:57:09.000And, you know, you could call what Bush is, and this is kind of the game.
00:57:14.000They had this on the drawing boards back in the 60s and even probably before that, but they wanted to call it friendly fascism.
00:57:20.000And they create These circumstances that make people, like the psychological warfare angle, they make people depend on them and welcome it.
00:58:06.000It's a command-and-control establishment that rules with an iron fist, so there really is no left and right when you get to the extreme of both political perspectives.
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00:59:21.000Today I'm doing it and tomorrow and Friday Erskine will be filling in for Alex who is in New York covering the Republican National Convention and he is going to be giving updates, live updates, each day to let us know what's going on because we're not getting the full story from the establishment media, the mainstream media.
00:59:40.000We're just not getting the straight story.
00:59:44.000that uh... there may be uh... more than a thousand people have been arrested uh... in protests uh... in new york and uh... the established media is just not reporting those kinds of numbers are making it sound that there's like no real serious problems there but uh... there is there are and uh... alex is going to update us uh... coming up the bottom of the hour today on it and uh... real quick before i get back to paul i want to direct you to check out alex's websites info wars dot com and prison planet dot com
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01:01:08.000That is very, very true, and our economy is being looted.
01:01:10.000I mean, how many kinds of documentation do we need to realize that this is what is taking place, what's happening here?
01:01:18.000You know, outsourcing the government, privatization of the war, just on and on and on.
01:01:24.000The totalization treaty that is being proposed.
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01:02:28.000or prisonplanet.com or you can call toll-free 1-888-253-3139 and welcome back Paul and let's see I wonder if we've got time to take another call.
01:02:45.000I want to back up Paul's statement about the disinformation on especially the local New York radio stations because I tuned in last night and, uh, the tone, first of all, the tone that I got from the, uh, reporter was that, uh, quote unquote, bad people are being punished.
01:03:09.000Uh, which isn't, uh, actually the case.
01:03:12.000And, uh, the tone that I got from, from the station was that, uh, you know, they had to chase down 150 bad people and arrest them.
01:03:23.000Uh, and also that, uh, uh, Commissioner Kelly got on the radio and said that the protestors had become violent and I don't really see any evidence of that.
01:03:38.000I also wanted to say... We've got to grab the break.
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01:08:03.000I think that if you listen to the New York Stations carefully, you'll realize that.
01:08:09.000And also I want to switch very briefly over to this Apparently there has been $59 million earmarked, Colin Powell said in a speech a couple of months ago, for the prevention of a peaceful transition to Raul Castro.
01:08:29.000And he gave a speech that was in, I think, either Wall Street Journal or the New York Times.
01:08:34.000I didn't cut the article out, but it had a Well, again, this goes back to our foreign policy.
01:08:41.000Paul, I'm curious, have you heard anything about that?
01:08:43.000the government was going to spend to prevent this transition to the next Cuban president.
01:08:50.000And I don't think that's legal under any system of international law.
01:08:54.000Well, again, this goes back to our foreign policy.
01:08:57.000Paul, I'm curious, have you heard anything about that?
01:09:02.000Going back to the original point, in my view, the protests have shown remarkable restraint.
01:09:09.000The only examples of violence on the part of the protestors were, as Alex mentioned yesterday, the man hitting the police officer who ploughed into a group of people on his moped.
01:09:20.000Apart from that, we've had examples of groups of protestors un-arresting other protestors who have been arrested by simply dragging them away from police.
01:09:30.000So if you want to class that as violence, then fair enough.
01:09:34.000I mean, the policy, as I mentioned, might be the case on Monday, is that many of the police are not wearing badge numbers.
01:09:40.000So the protesters can't take down their badge numbers if any violence or police brutality takes place.
01:09:47.000And that's obviously to avoid lawsuits later on.
01:09:50.000So, I mean, the only abuses that I've seen and that the eyewitnesses are reporting are on the part of the police or the people who have ordered them to carry out these policies.
01:10:08.000Yeah, I just wanted to make a few comments about immigration, particularly from Islamic nations.
01:10:16.000I went to the Department of Homeland Security website Where you can download immigration statistics, and I did this for the year 2002.
01:10:23.000What I did was I used my almanac and I excluded all nations that were less than 50% or less Islamic.
01:10:34.000Any nation that was 50% or more Islamic, I included.
01:10:39.000And altogether I added up those countries for the grand total of 100,765 legal immigrants In the year 2002, for a majority Islamic nation.
01:10:53.000And this runs straight in the face of a supposed war on terror.
01:10:59.000And also, especially when you see the many conflicts between Islamic Christian cultures throughout the world, or even non-Christian, as in Kashmir, the Philippines, You would think any nation that wanted to prevent future ethnic or religious conflict would want to maintain basically a religious majority, especially the Christian descendant.
01:11:27.000Now are you saying... I take a little issue with this because of the fact that you just said that the statistics indicated legal immigration.
01:11:50.000Because the basis of this country has always been people coming here, regardless of their ethnic background and their religious background.
01:12:00.000And by the way, I would suggest that you read Peter Brimelow's book called Alienation, where he discusses that this country He was always highly selective about immigration, and let's be honest about it, for most of the time, preferred white Christians from Europe as the ideal.
01:12:18.000Well, I don't think I agree with that at all.
01:12:24.000I'm not sure who he is, but what I'm saying is that if we need to refine our immigration policy, when people come here legally, I have no problem with that.
01:12:36.000I have a problem with the illegals coming here.
01:12:38.000No, I have a problem with legal and illegal immigration because I see this as demographic war against what was a 90% white nation in 1950 and what they look forward to being A non-white nation by 2050, so in a hundred year period of time, you'll have seen the white race in North America.
01:13:38.000We know that there are these strict guidelines in place, these strict naturalization programs, whereby legal immigrants are taught the Constitution, they're taught, you know, the English language, and that's what builds the nation.
01:13:50.000People who know freedom, no matter where they come from.
01:14:03.000On that point, interestingly enough, Many of the listeners will have seen the photographs of the children's candy toys which have come out in the past week depicting a plane, you know, slamming into a tower and Osama Bin Laden being, you know, pictured next to them.
01:14:18.000Turns out that those toys were manufactured in Mexico.
01:14:21.000So, I mean, that's where the real threat's coming from.
01:14:24.000Illegal invading army of Mexicans who really do hate America.
01:14:29.000The issue of naturalized, legal immigrants that know their rights and just want to make a good living, then obviously I've got no problem with that.
01:14:38.000And you know, I wonder sometimes who's worse.
01:14:41.000When we talk about all this stuff, the thing is, is that attitudes like that, this Paul from New Jersey, attitudes like that Feed into this fascist system anyway.
01:14:52.000Because, you know, it seeks to divide.
01:15:03.000Well, I mean, it allows the opposition to then hold up anti-illegal immigration as being a position held by people like that caller with overtly, you know, racist viewpoints.
01:15:13.000So then they can say that, you know, if you're against immigration, then you're racist.
01:15:18.000It plays right into their hands when we're merely pointing out that we're against illegal immigration.
01:15:22.000So it's a very dangerous, you know, Setting to get involved in where they can just label us as racist because of people like that who espouse those kind of viewpoints.
01:15:33.000Yeah, I think Paul needs to go back and read the Bill of Rights, too.
01:15:36.000It says all men are created equal, and you know, this is the thing.
01:15:40.000Like you said, no matter where you are on the planet, okay, we all have this inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
01:15:48.000And if the United States has always been that beacon of hope to those people, more power to it.
01:15:56.000Well, in many cases, the people who do go through these strict naturalization programs are more educated on the Constitution than Americans, because they're taking those kind of classes out of the school system.
01:16:07.000And I have no problem with that either, because again, you know, coming to America requires certain things.
01:16:12.000In other words, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that.
01:16:15.000But again, you know, I can't embrace this other guy's attitude at all.
01:16:20.000Hey, back on PrisonPlanet.com, I'm looking here at The article that you have under Big Brother about the iris recognition added to school security?
01:16:32.000Well, yeah, this has been taking place up and down the country.
01:16:35.000In this case, it's for parents who come to collect their children from school.
01:16:40.000They're saying it's voluntary at the moment, but in many cases it's mandatory, where, you know, at the gate of the school they have to submit to this mandatory eye scan.
01:16:49.000And it's part of the drive to get the police state, the Big Brother mentality, into schools so that children grow up within that system and then embrace it when they come to adulthood.
01:17:00.000So they will not speak out against things like cameras on the streets, 4.2 million of which are in London right now.
01:17:07.000So it's part of that brainwashing education process to get people to accept Big Brother because they introduce it at the educational level.
01:17:18.000And you know, this is just another indication of how they're utilizing every avenue that they have available to them.
01:17:25.000Public education is a good example of another evil.
01:17:29.000They're using every avenue that they have to gain your biometric data.
01:17:36.000It's all fueled by the fear of a kind of Columbine incident, which we know was staged from the research, and the recent wave, or so-called wave, of child abductions, which in fact has not increased in number since the the 70s, it's actually gradually gone down.
01:17:56.000But because it's been in the media so often, people think that it's an increasing wave.
01:18:01.000And so then that, in a kind of packed mentality, that makes people embrace this kind of Big Brother technology to try and protect against that.
01:18:09.000And here in England, they've announced and are about to roll out a database which lists every child at birth with all their details on a biometric card.
01:18:20.000So, I mean, it really is getting down to that level now.
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01:25:32.000And, Paul, just jump in if you want to say anything about that.
01:25:36.000Well, if we were to pick a card out of three, it certainly gives us a better chance of getting a third-party candidate, and that's for sure.
01:25:44.000But, I mean, the caller earlier was talking about the libertarian candidate, Badnarek, why he doesn't have anti-immigration as a platform.
01:25:54.000It's interesting that the candidacy was between him and Aaron Russo, who you would expect to be more liberal because he was in Hollywood.
01:26:02.000But in fact, Russo's platform was geared around controlling the border.
01:26:07.000So in a sense, it's a shame that Russo didn't get in.
01:26:10.000But then again, Badnarik, as I mentioned in a previous show, has been up and down the country over the past year or so, teaching these constitutional classes.
01:26:18.000And obviously, to defend the border is constitutional.
01:26:23.000But, I mean, it's not part of his platform, which again goes back to that thing about how third-party candidates are there to educate people.
01:26:30.000So it is a question over him as to why it's not on his platform.
01:26:44.000I was just curious to let you know that this morning I was watching MSNBC and right behind them they had a whole bunch of things of where's the weapons of mass destruction, etc, etc.
01:27:25.000So you have to spend a little time digging into it, because it's buried.
01:27:33.000And as I said yesterday when I was talking about it, the timing Uh, is very suspicious because it's geared to slam it through while Congress is not in session.
01:27:41.000Uh, and most of them are out, you know, campaigning.
01:27:46.000So, and we have less than 30 days to get it repealed.
01:27:49.000Uh, I think it's going to become a reality if enough people don't, uh, get up and tell their congressmen that they want it repealed.
01:27:57.000Well no, I've already, you know, with that in mind I'll just call my senators here in Pennsylvania, but the other thing is I did call about my, you know, representatives about Ron Paul's Bill there for changing legal tender on the notes that we have.
01:28:14.000And I got a response back and it just said I was very interested, I never knew about it.
01:28:18.000So they're about as ignorant as most of the people are.
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01:32:17.000He is, again, Alex's webmaster, PrisonPlanet.tv and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:32:23.000And I want to direct you to go to those websites, check them out, because as I said before, They offer a full range of offerings and information in this continuing information war.
01:32:34.000And this is one of the best ways you can stay informed about what is going on.
01:32:38.000Aside from listening to Alex on his program.
01:32:42.000Now, we're waiting for Alex to join us.
01:32:44.000He's going to call in from New York live, and he's going to give us an update on what's going on out there.
01:32:49.000And as soon as he calls in, we'll get him on with us.
01:33:13.000I understand the tactics that are utilized under normal conditions and normal circumstances.
01:33:18.000I have to say that I do believe the tactics that are being utilized here, that have been designed, were not so much motivated, I think, out of practical police necessity, As out of political necessity.
01:33:34.000And in doing so, that is where they made a big problem.
01:33:37.000Now you have tactics being used where, first off, and this pretty much is unprecedented in the history of this city, and it's dealing with major protests within living memory, groups who applied for permits were denied permits.
01:33:53.000Now that is ridiculous, and as I said, unprecedented, especially in light of such a major national political event, maybe even international political event, where you have a convention being held by the ruling party and the ruling administration.
01:34:09.000They would have been wiser to issue those permits.
01:34:13.000They would have had more of a controlling factor, and I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm talking about things done in an orderly factor.
01:34:25.000However, it does have to be said, and I can't stress this enough, Still, the vast majority of those who are protesting are non-violent and non-incendiary.
01:34:41.000Many of the conflicts that even occur, that being said, Or not that the protesters are necessarily initiating aggression.
01:34:51.000They're reacting to aggression being initiated to them.
01:34:55.000They're not drawing first blood in the majority of the cases.
01:34:59.000I won't say 100%, but I will say in the majority of the cases.
01:35:02.000Now on the other side, you not only have tactics that are designed with politics more in mind, Then, police practicality and necessity.
01:35:12.000You have police, and your national audience may not know this, who are sitting out there doing 12-hour tours under a very hot August sun.
01:35:21.000Many of them are a little frazzled under the collar already because they're frustrated with their ability to get a proper wage and have a contract settlement.
01:35:29.000And I believe some part of what's happening is, and maybe it was engineered this way, Is that that aggravation is building up and they're focusing their aggression towards the protesters because maybe they are upset with the administration not handling or listening to their cries for, you know, economic upward social mobility and they're refocusing those energies in the wrong direction.
01:35:53.000On top of that, the tactics, as I said, are poorly designed.
01:35:57.000Um, and if the protesters are so violent, there is one glaring fact which cannot be omitted, which has not been mentioned in the mainstream.
01:36:06.000If you had tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of protesters who went berserk, which is not the case, but this is the way the mainstream media is trying to plant it and portray it and spin it, Then you would have a large number of corresponding police injuries.
01:36:21.000Now, to the best of my knowledge, and I have a little more knowledge than the average layman, because I'm still connected to that society, okay?
01:36:27.000There have practically been no police injuries.
01:37:09.000And they go out, and in the middle of a peaceful demonstration, will hit a cop or throw a bottle or set something on fire out in the street, and then the police will come in and attack the general public en masse.
01:37:22.000And last night, of course, I was in the convention for Arnold Schwarzenegger's speech and the rest of them.
01:37:28.000The Schwarzeneggers, Maria Shriver was there in the presidential box with George Herbert Walker, Bush 41, and the Schwarzeneggers' four children, who you rarely see out in the light of day, who live up in a resort town in Idaho.
01:37:43.000They were there, his two small sons and his two older daughters, and Arnold got up there and actually used, we will not falter, we will not waver, we will not, he was using all these Hitlerian quotes.
01:37:54.000He was talking about homeland security.
01:37:57.000And then Arnold talked about how when the Soviets had control of Austria for a little while at the end of World War II, when he was a small child, how he would ride around with his father and his uncles and how they were afraid, they'd be questioned, how you weren't allowed to look at the police in the eyes, and how people were disappeared.
01:38:28.000Lawyers who represent people who are being charged with terrorism are being charged with terrorism themselves.
01:38:33.000The Patriot Act sets it up where they can secretly arrest citizens.
01:38:37.000And it was just frightening to be right there, very close to Schwarzenegger.
01:38:41.000Side passage, you know, right down to the floor to see Schwarzenegger just on this complete and total power trip.
01:38:47.000And to see Orrin Hatch also there in one of the elite boxes, Senator Orrin Hatch, who said he wants to get rid of the 22nd Amendment so Arnold could be president.
01:38:58.000A guy who has said that he admires Hitler and wants to be like him, who loves Kurt Voltheim.
01:39:03.000Regardless of the fact that he's a Nazi.
01:39:05.000Just all of this, to see this happening and to know how the Bushes were connected to the Nazis up until the early 50s, And again, if you were just joining us, we're not precarious either, folks.
01:39:14.000The point is they control both sides of the equation.
01:39:17.000And there are just massive protests going on all over New York, continually.
01:39:22.000And again, on Sunday it was 300,000 plus, and the media said thousands.
01:39:28.000Now they have arrested over a thousand people and they're being held being moved right now There's me a protest four o'clock up a few hours They're being moved to a park by a train station where they put up fences around them literally an open-air camp and They're supposedly going to be a big demonstration there things might Might get violent there because the anarchists are saying they're going to stay some type of riot So things are really really heating up of course
01:39:56.000Lord Bush has not arrived in town yet, but Cheney's been here all week, and we will continue to cover this as it develops, Michael.
01:40:04.000Very good, and you were reporting yesterday that you were anticipating some wild excitement last night.
01:40:14.000The police beat the living daylights out of a whole bunch of people almost for nothing.
01:40:19.000I personally saw police dogs jumping up and snapping at men, women, and children.
01:40:25.000You have the shopping district down around Madison Square Garden, and the police basically used to get in there.
01:40:31.000You go through about eight different checkpoints, but then the police have set up quasi-checkpoints about four or five blocks outside that, outside the so-called national security perimeter.
01:40:41.000And I personally saw two women, elderly women, I'm elderly, 70 plus years old, with their shopping bags dressed with their pearl necklaces walking nowhere near the convention center and these two police dogs just run up to them and start snapping and barking and they're freaking out and the police are digging through their bags.
01:41:01.000It's just total insanity basically and we are, we are in a city That is under martial law.
01:41:07.000The police will threaten to arrest you for videotaping even though they admit there's no law.
01:41:11.000They have personally smashed cameras of women in front of me, made me erase tapes.
01:41:16.000They have done this to other journalists right in front of me.
01:41:32.000Regular Army, National Guard, police in the black helmets with the AR-15s and the Heckler & Koch assault rifles, and none of it has anything to do with terrorism.
01:41:44.000This is all a massive conditioning process to train the public how to submit to this tyranny, Michael.
01:42:10.000You know, I got in about one o'clock in the morning after just covering this all day yesterday.
01:42:15.000Well, no, there were some big developments at Ground Zero I can get to in a second.
01:42:18.000And I turned on CNN, and they said, a few hundred arrests all week, all is well, everything's great.
01:42:25.000Everyone loves Bush in New York, all these interviews with New Yorkers, they just love it.
01:42:29.000Turned on Fox, same propaganda, everybody loves it, a few hundred arrests.
01:42:33.000And then you turn to local New York channels, as of yesterday, over a thousand arrests.
01:42:39.000People being moved out of the jails now to this huge pen that's got, again, over a thousand people.
01:42:44.000Arrests going on everywhere for the most petty of reasons, and I saw a big arrest yesterday.
01:42:49.000A big peace march, a peaceful peace march, was gathering on a main avenue by the Millennium Hilton Hotel, right across the street from Ground Zero, and the new Building 7 they've almost completed the constructing.
01:43:05.000Can we get there and there are hundreds of police lined up in black helmets with machine guns and I start interviewing them trying to talk to them and this New York police officer in plumbing clothes is sitting there with a big camera taking pictures of everybody and I get in his face and he pushes me I tell him that's assault Then across the street, you have the Peace March rally, and there were so many of them that obviously they were getting out into the street.
01:43:47.000I'm sitting there, the ultra-liberal Neil Bortz.
01:43:50.000I'm sitting there talking to cops about Operation Northwoods and about PNAC and government prior knowledge and all this, and I'm telling them, wake up and please check out what I'm saying.
01:43:58.000Go to prisonpilot.com, look at the 9-11 section, go to infowarx.com.
01:44:51.000You see all these evil controllers and media people and congressmen and senators with all their voting records of big government and control and tyranny acting like they're conservative, and then to watch the speeches that all sound great but are diametrically opposed to the reality of what they're doing, it's...
01:45:14.000And this is what all of America is going to be, and Michael, I'll tell you.
01:45:18.000I don't have anything against police, but obviously when you're in a restaurant or something or three or four cops will kind of look at them and you might feel a little uncomfortable sometimes.
01:45:26.000Whatever, because it's, you know, the authority and the oppression of what this country's turned into.
01:45:31.000Now I've been desensitized because there's so many tens of thousands of police that you don't even notice they're there.
01:45:37.000And I'm used to showing my ID all over the city, even outside the security perimeter.
01:45:43.000I'm now used to holding up my badge, being inspected, being checked.
01:45:48.000I've caught myself yesterday being acclimated to this and being totally used to being searched and inspected and parodied and questioned by stern men bugging their eyes out at me.
01:46:18.000No, and as Ron, the caller from New York, mentioned yesterday, what he sees is he sees the new, up-and-coming, younger cops who have no conscience or no moral compass, and they're more than happy, just like automatons, to execute programs and do what they're told to do and hustle us and treat us like cattle.
01:46:40.000Well, you're absolutely right, and that's what's happening, Michael.
01:47:39.000It's such a tragedy that things are coming to this point.
01:47:43.000I'll tell you Michael, everybody I've talked to says that, even Republicans, that they're trying to exploit 9-11, they're trying to use those deaths, they're trying to act like they're the good guys saving us.
01:47:56.000And then we see the speeches, that's all they talk about.
01:48:16.000And if you'd like to sit in with him, of course, you're welcome to come on for an hour or two with him.
01:48:20.000We're going to have Paul Watson with his daily analysis joining you, of course, and I'll be calling in with my regular report about what develops, and I'll also be calling in with a report in the middle of the broadcast on Friday, kind of the aftermath of everything that happened here.
01:48:58.000And I've talked to reporters who were at Boston and are now here.
01:49:01.000They say this is at least 20 times what it was in Boston.
01:49:06.000It is a palpable feeling of oppression.
01:49:09.000I personally have been threatened with arrest three times for videotaping publicly on the street.
01:49:13.000This is with press credentials with a film crew behind me.
01:49:16.000So they're setting the precedent in America where we are surveilled, we are watched, we are tracked, we are traced, but then we pull out cameras even as members of the press.
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01:53:22.000And as you're hearing, folks, it's very evil and oppressive.
01:53:25.000uh... and the police state is uh... is definitely in full swing at least in new york for right now uh... alex welcome back well thanks michael yeah i've talked a lot of russia i've talked a lot of russians And Chinese and others, and they say their countries are not like this.
01:53:41.000But here they are, up on television, about how we're fighting for freedom, we're giving you freedom.
01:53:46.000Oh my gosh, I couldn't look people in the eyes in Austria growing up, but I can here in America.
01:53:52.000Believe me, you look a cop in the eyes here.
01:53:53.000We talked about that before our speech.
01:53:55.000It will get in your face, most of them.
01:54:18.000They are the people that carried out 9-11.
01:54:21.000And that's what we've all got to work harder than ever, because they smell blood, they want total control, they want to dominate, Michael, and they think they've got us on the run, but they don't.
01:54:32.000And I tell you, that's the elite themselves.
01:54:35.000The establishment minions are scared to death.
01:54:37.000They know the people aren't buying the propaganda.
01:54:40.000I talked about that Zogby poll where 40-plus percent think the government was behind 9-11.
01:54:44.000That's on the Zogby website, but you don't hear that on the nightly news.
01:54:58.000And no, I'm not saying vote for Clinton.
01:55:00.000These people are all on the same team and they fool us with this false left-right system.
01:55:05.000Yeah, let's talk real quick in the moments we have remaining here.
01:55:08.000Talk about your film, American Dictators, because this is exactly what you're talking about.
01:55:14.000Sure, a new video that we put out is American Dictators.
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01:55:19.000And we go into Bush, Kerry, and how they're cousins, and how they're skull and bones, and how it's staged, and what their policies are, and what the police state is.
01:55:37.000American Dictators, it's only $20, $19.95, and I would challenge people to get it, to get it now during the election, and to make copies of it, and to put it on AXS TV and get it out to people.
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01:56:28.000I'm so thankful, Michael, for you filling in for me.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:01.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:06.000And again, Michael Corbin, host of A Closer Look, sitting in for Alex Jones, who again, as you just heard, is in New York covering the Republican National Convention.
01:58:16.000Again, I'm on with you today for the duration, and then Erskine is going to take over tomorrow and Friday, and Alex will return live on Monday from Austin, Texas, armed with a load of information and videos and documentation of what's going on in New York, what's really happening in New York, which the mainstream media or the media establishment, as it's called, is not reporting to you.
01:58:41.000So you're getting the straight scoop right here.
01:58:44.000on the Alex Jones Show on the Genesis Communications Network and welcome back.
01:58:48.000Now, what we're going to do is we're going to talk with an author of a book that raises serious questions about the contentions of self-anointed terrorist experts that populate the Orthodox academia.
01:59:00.000Now from ancient Rome to the World Trade Center, Paul Collins presents largely ignored or understated facts to show that the majority of terrorist acts throughout history have been state-sponsored enterprises.
01:59:12.000Now in turn, The national governments that sponsor terrorism are merely implementation instruments of a criminal elite suffering from Olympian delirium.
01:59:21.000Well, the final objective of this ruling class conspiracy, of course, is the completion of an enormous social engineering project, the outcome of which could hold serious ramifications for human civilization as we know it.
01:59:34.000And, of course, a lot of this stuff is unfolding right before our very eyes.
01:59:39.000Now, the author is Paul David Collins.
01:59:41.000He studied suppressed history and the shadowy undercurrents of world political dynamics for roughly 11 years.
01:59:48.000In 1999, he completed his Associates of Arts and Science degree.
01:59:52.000He will soon complete his BA with a major in Communications and a minor in Political Science.
01:59:57.000He's a member of the Phi Theta Kappa and Phi Kappa Phi Honor Societies.
02:00:01.000Throughout the course of his ongoing college career, he has extensively researched Political science, criminal justice, psychology, philosophy, and religion.
02:00:10.000All necessary ingredients in trying to understand what is going on in the world today.
02:00:22.000Now, what I'd like to do is I want to get down to bringing this topic to the current state of events.
02:00:30.000You know, we're talking about what is taking place Understood.
02:00:33.000world with the terrorist attacks of 9-11.
02:00:35.000Alex Jones being on the ground in New York, giving us live updates about what's going on there.
02:00:40.000And of course, the 9-11 Commission report coming out, which completely glossed over and omitted huge pieces of truth about what really happened.
02:00:50.000And I want to kind of peel back some of these layers and get down to what's really taking place here.
02:00:59.000You Your book, The Hidden Face of Terrorism, is about, I guess basically uncovering the dynamics of what terrorism is all about.
02:01:08.000Yes, what I do is I basically tear apart the contention that mainstream orthodox University professors teach in their classes that basically what they teach is that terrorism is carried out by groups that are in no way connected with national governments, in no way connected with powerful people.
02:01:30.000They're just disenfranchised lone nuts that believe radical and lunatic fringe sort of ideologies.
02:01:40.000And they're venting their frustrations and their angers and And what not, through violent means and methods.
02:01:48.000However, if you look throughout history, many of these groups, these terrorist organizations, have been connected in some way to a national government that is utilizing that group to steer society.
02:02:04.000And it's more about social engineering than it is about a lone group just trying to make a statement through violence.
02:02:14.000And the national governments in turn are controlled by a criminal elite who are hoping to, through shock and trauma, revert man back to a tabula rasa, a blank slate.
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02:06:26.000So we continue and my guest right now is Paul David Collins, author of The Hidden Face of Terrorism, The Dark Side of Social Engineering from Antiquity to September the 11th.
02:06:43.000Anyway, let's get back into this topic, because this is so vitally important to understanding what's going on.
02:06:49.000Now, you said something during the last segment I want to go to, and that is that these national governments are being controlled by a criminal elite, or a criminal cabal.
02:07:01.000That is so telling, because Sabelle Edmonds, who is an FBI whistleblower who was fired from her job in 2002, was approached While working in the FBI by what she called a foreign intelligence group, but it was not connected to any particular country.
02:07:24.000See, that's where these militia groups back during the mid-90s got everything wrong.
02:07:30.000They believed that it was simply national governments that were corrupt and whatnot and rotten to the core that were behind this, and as a result we had a lot of of violent ideas with them where they believe that you basically had to tear down the national political structure.
02:07:51.000The truth is that beyond the political structure are individuals that are pulling the strings of that political structure of very powerful financiers, international banking cartels, and basically individuals who would like to see society
02:08:10.000shaped along more oligarchical lines, such as the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Fords, the different very powerful, very wealthy dynasties that have generational wealth that they have built up over time.
02:08:28.000Now, let's break this down a little bit more, because I think, again, we can go back into history, as the subtitle of your book indicates, Antiquity, to September the 11th.
02:08:40.000In other words, how do we come to this point?
02:08:42.000Well, it began over thousands of years ago with the father of Nimrud, Kesh, which his name means confounder or confusion, where he would send bandits into different city-states or whatnot that he wished to take over.
02:09:00.000They would cause chaos and go around committing criminal acts and basically cause things to degenerate into a state of
02:09:09.000Anarchy, a climate of lawlessness, and then he would arrive on the scene and they would just magically stop because, you know, they were basically under his control and he'd act like he was there to restore order and they would make him the king or the leading authority in that city-state.
02:09:30.000And then the idea was recycled by the Freemasons through their dictum of Ordo Abkaio, but The whole concept of creating and managing crisis in order to reshape human thinking was really brought forward to our modern day primarily through the Tavistock Institute, which was supposedly founded in, I believe, 1921 by Major John Rawlings-Reese.
02:09:56.000And the whole Masonic dictum of Ordu Apcheo was recycled by Tavistock and became known as Societry.
02:10:04.000And basically, society is the idea that by inducing shock and trauma, you can reduce the human population back to a childlike state.
02:10:13.000And when you're a child, your suggestibility is extremely high.
02:10:20.000And you'd also be basically a tabula rasa, a blank slate that the elite would write upon.
02:10:27.000And of course, certain bluebloods love the idea, and that's why the Rockefeller Foundation ...gave the Tavistock Foundation a grant of significant size.
02:10:39.000We must never think that groups like the Rockefeller Foundation, that these tax-exempt foundations are about philanthropy.
02:10:49.000They are designed to, A, shield the Blue Bloods' money from the income tax, and B, pour their money into projects That steer society in the direction that the elite want it to go.
02:11:04.000And we all know the direction that they want it to go because old man John D. Rockefeller made it clear as crystal when he said that, quote, the age of the individual is at an end, unquote.
02:11:16.000They obviously want a collectivist society, a beehive kind of mentality to exist amongst the people and the individuals.
02:11:27.000To cease to exist and more of a drone kind of creature to emerge from all the chaos.
02:11:34.000So hence the creation of the socialist ideology, which is a tool that they use to achieve their end of collectivism and basically eradicating the individual.
02:11:49.000It's very important that our friends on the left begin to start stripping away the idealistic garb That the whole socialist ideology has been dressed in, and start to see what it really does.
02:12:04.000It places power, it concentrates power in an entity that the elites can control, which is government.
02:12:10.000And through government, they'll simply regulate and restrict all their competition out of existence until they have a huge monopoly Over that country's resources, over that country's industry.
02:12:41.000And see where the so-called working class movement had been subverted by elites and by oligarchical types.
02:12:50.000As a matter of fact, Oswald Spengler, in his book, The Decline of the West, stated that there was no working class movement, not even communist, that had not been directed in the direction that it was going.
02:13:30.000Yes, Lord Palmerston, who was in Britain And with a huge figure, a very influential figure in Freemasonry, had sponsored Karl Marx.
02:13:44.000And Karl Marx's friend, the anarchist Bakunin, once sneered and said, well, you know, the communists have one foot in the revolution and then another In the banking community.
02:14:01.000Karl Marx himself was sponsored also by Frederick Engels, who was living off of the money that his father had made through capitalist ventures.
02:14:15.000And if you look at the end of Das Kapital, he posits a fight between communism
02:14:24.000and uh... capitalism but he does not state how that would end and if if communism was the end that he had intended then then then why did what why you with all the uh... other synthesis throughout history did we see both uh... opposing sides uh... it didn't emerge together it's obvious that he had something
02:14:48.000else in mind other than a utopian society where there was no classes and we were all joined together singing kumbaya?
02:14:57.000And speaking of synthesis, that brings us to the Hegelian dialectic.
02:15:02.000In other words, we look at what's going on today.
02:15:05.000Alex Jones' new video, American Dictators, documenting the staged elections of 2004, he illustrates that no matter who you vote for when it comes to the bipartisan platform, no matter who you vote for, the New World Order still wins because They are both controlled by the same entity that is undermining our country.
02:15:31.000Basically what's happening this year is that with this election, we see the elite following the prescriptions given unto them by Carol Quigley in his book, Tragedy and Hope.
02:15:44.000In his book he said, you know, have both sides be controlled by the same group.
02:15:52.000So that it appeared that you were just simply clearing the house and cleaning it out and throwing the rascals out, when in fact you just had the same group under a different appellation and different garb.
02:16:09.000And we see that with John Kerry and Bush because both have dynastical backgrounds, both have blue blood backgrounds, a pedigree in the elite.
02:16:21.000And both are also part of the secretive Skull and Bones Society and Skull and Bones is all about statist ideas.
02:16:31.000They're all about the idea of doing away with individualism.
02:16:39.000Yeah, and that's exactly what their ultimate goal is.
02:16:44.000Now, Paul, we're going to take a break.
02:16:48.000Give out information real quick where people can get your book.
02:16:50.000Okay, the book is available on the Amazon.com website and on Barnes & Noble website and also at www.authorhouse.com.
02:17:05.000That book is available and also the other book that I co-authored with my brother, The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship, is available at Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.com and I think that right now they're selling On Amazon.com, both books as part of a package deal.
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02:22:07.000I'm Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who again is in New York covering the Republican National Convention.
02:22:15.000And as you heard him say last hour, the atmosphere, the ambiance of the event is evil and very oppressive and uh... it's almost scary do you think that new york would roll up at nine o'clock at night but as i said it's like a ghost town
02:22:31.000uh... and that's uh... is such a tragedy it is such a tragedy anyway joining me is paul david collins author of the hidden face of terrorism the dark side of social engineering from antiquity to september the eleventh we're trying to uh... basically unravel some of the dynamics the core of the game uh... that is on that is a foot
02:22:51.000And again, I highly encourage you to check out Alex's new documentary, American Dictators, documenting the staged election of 2004, because again, this whole thing is a plan.
02:23:05.0009-11 was a game to, and I don't mean to diminish the weight of that whole thing, but it is a game to the masters, to the New World Order architects.
02:23:16.000It is basically to disenfranchise us, to strike fear And as Paul is saying, to erase your mind, so to speak, so that the elite can write on a new clean slate.
02:23:28.000That is the whole function of terrorism, the aesthetic of terror, if you will.
02:23:45.000I would like to say that I'm a new lister and I I'm thrilled that you're speaking out against the Patriot Act and some things that are completely eroding what this country represents.
02:23:59.000Your guest, however, who seems to be laying the blame on socialism for our lack of liberties, seems to be confused.
02:24:14.000Taxpayers over The history of this country, since its founding, have paid for public utility lines, railway lines, telephone lines, municipal water systems.
02:26:37.000I was just watching, re-watching a movie last night called The Killing Fields, which I recommend everybody see that movie.
02:26:44.000It's communism in its purest form, and it shows how they indoctrinate, especially they were aiming at the kids, to tell them not to love your family, you know, the family is bad, we're your family now, love the government, and you can see that's happening in a more subtle way here, the attack on the family, And trying to make us a more communistic society, less individualistic.
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02:31:09.000The book we're talking about is The Hidden Face of Terrorism.
02:31:11.000We're peeling away some of the layers here of the game that is going on right before our very eyes to understand the aesthetic of terror, why there is terrorism, and who does it really serve, And welcome back, Paul.
02:31:25.000And again, thank you for being with me on the program today.
02:31:34.000Yes, I also agree with the lady that what you're doing on 9-11 and the sponsorship of terrorism by agencies like the CIA and others is very productive, and the opposition to all the pretext for military martial law in police states is very productive, but I agree with her that socialism is the opposite of fascism.
02:31:56.000Um, and I think it's really very dangerous.
02:31:59.000I don't belong to any organization, but I have read some socialist websites like WSWS.org and workers.org and others and the idea somehow that Hitler, for instance, was a A socialist is absolutely upside down and backwards.
02:32:18.000He stole the word socialism because there were millions of people voting for communists and socialists and leftists.
02:32:25.000So whatever he said was the opposite of his actions, which were to Beat them in the streets, the socialists, the communists, and then put them, before anybody else, into the death camps, and kill them before anybody else.
02:32:38.000That's why he was supported by the major industrialists, not only in his country, but the military industrial complex in the West, to attack those socialists and leftist forces in Germany, and then to attack the Soviet Union.
02:32:51.000He bit the hand that fed him, double-crossed him, and went West before he went East.
02:32:55.000And that's why the United States finally went to war against them.
02:32:58.000I think this idea of somehow there's no difference I think is dangerous because I think some conservatives when they change the label from a war on terrorism to a war on communism they would immediately drop their skeptical and rational attitudes and then go and support, total support behind these neocons in the next phase of the PMAC war that these neocons plan against Korea, China, Cuba
02:33:26.000Or anyone who talks about any kind of a social program for the poor, like Chavez in Venezuela.
02:33:32.000I fear that because of this psychological weakness, they could be manipulated right behind the warmongering of these neocons, which they are not doing now in the cases of Iraq, Iran, and Syria.
02:34:10.000Both are about collectivism and the subordination of the individual to the collective and the maintenance of class distinctions.
02:34:19.000And you fear the neocons, the neocons behind all the pro-family, kind of pro-American rhetoric.
02:34:30.000If you look very closely at what Bill Buckley of the National Review and what some of these other neocon types are writing, and parallel it, With the writings of Leon Trotsky, then you see that they're almost identical.
02:34:46.000This idea that you boost, like what Cheney and Bush did when they boosted defense spending, that's not so much about some right-wing radical idea as that is about the Trotskyist idea That you have a military expansionist policy abroad.
02:35:11.000The Trotskyists oppose the imperialist policies of the CIA, the military industrial complex within the capitalist countries, but they do have the idea that there should be a defense.
02:35:23.000Against that, among the victims in those third world countries, but that is certainly not the same as the claim that these guys are Trotskyist, these neocons.
02:35:31.000If they ever had any alleged association with a Trotskyist organization, it was I think as an agent, as a rat, as an informer, and certainly they're the opposite of that right now.
02:35:42.000And, you know, I do believe you have to protect your Bill of Rights, the protection of minorities, but that's separate.
02:35:49.000From having a government where the people control.
02:35:52.000We're not going to have one kind of government or another, but it's who controls that government.
02:35:56.000We've got to find a way to put all the means of life and power, the ownership of the media, the ownership of all of the production forces in society into the hands of those who operate them.
02:36:08.000These neocons, though, began as apologists for Franklin Roosevelt Who's ideas, New Deal ideas and policies came from communists and socialists such as Harry Hopkins and other individuals.
02:36:26.000That were later found to have been communist moles within his government.
02:36:30.000Now, what they're really trying to do is save capitalism.
02:36:34.000And there's a lot of their comments that this was really, by bottom, an anti-socialist, anti-communist, to save capitalism from a rising discontent and a depression, to give a few crumbs, so that the corporate elite could keep the other 99% for themselves.
02:36:49.000Sir, when you speak of communism, I mean capitalism, which do you speak of?
02:36:54.000Do you speak of the monopolistic capitalism, or do you speak of free enterprise?
02:37:02.000Well, I think it's inevitable at this stage in history.
02:37:06.000You're going to have a monopoly capitalism at this stage of history, and there's no way to go back to a bucolic 200 years ago, small guilds of farmers, you know.
02:37:14.000But the monopolists always have historically funded left-wing organizations As well as what you would call right-wing fascists.
02:37:27.000They would not have done so if they did not see how that whole ideology could be utilized to their advantage.
02:37:38.000And it can because it concentrates power in government.
02:37:41.000No, I think it should concentrate power in the hands of the people, the working people, black, white, blue-collar, white-collar, who work in all of the media, who work in all of the factories, all the retail.
02:37:51.000Somehow we've got to get our representation elected from those constituencies, rather than these meaningless, geographical constituencies, to take that power away from the globalists, the corporate globalists.
02:38:02.000And that is the source of their power and it's really separate from, you know, protecting minority rights and the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which I agree with.
02:38:10.000But I think, you know, this is an economic system that is really at the source of all of this warmongering, driving down our wages to the lowest level in the world, and I just think that You know, things like the New Deal were, if they were, if some enlightened capitalists were for it, was to save their own backside, not to prevent the socialist revolution in the country.
02:38:35.000And to dribble out a few alternatives to that people power taking over, because they were in great danger with the rise of some of these leftist and socialist movements at the time.
02:38:46.000So, I don't see it as something where it's a It's socialism.
02:38:50.000It was really at bottom an anti-socialist maneuver.
02:38:54.000And the person who called before about the killing fields, you know, Paul Pott was actually supported by the United States.
02:39:01.000That's one of the propaganda myths that has been...
02:39:06.000Paul Pott, Zbigniew Brzezinski, supported Paul Pott as a way of bloodying and bleeding Vietnam for the hubris of defeating the United States.
02:39:19.000And the United States actually supported and armed Paul Pott in the border regions after the Vietnamese saved the Cambodians from Vietnam.
02:39:27.000from his genocide and actually had him seated at the United Nations.
02:39:31.000So to call that a communist type of exponent is exactly the opposite of the documented facts.
02:39:39.000But those people were not individuals when Pol Pot had got done with them.
02:39:44.000The Khmer Rouge did away with the family structure and they placed everybody All right, they were wretched, yes.
02:40:27.000I say that we oppose both the fascist and the communist elements.
02:40:33.000To have the individual power, I think we have to take it away from these corporate elites who own, as the lady said, GEO.
02:40:39.000owning, and all of the media being owned by this tiny elite where we can't even get the truth.
02:40:45.000The people who work in these places should be the people who control everything, who control the factories, the mines, the mills, the distribution, and those are the people who produced all the wealth in this society, and it's that tiny elite
02:41:01.000Who takes the greatest value of it, who put us in a position where we can't buy it all back, at least leading to depressions like the ones during the thirties, when you had amazing productive powers and who'd going to rot, but because they could not make it for a capitalist profit, they would starve people and guard all of this and not let them have access to it.
02:41:21.000And that leads to wars then, because you need to capture other people's, another capitalist country's markets.
02:41:28.000And areas of exploitation because of this basic exploitation.
02:41:31.000The way we get back to that, the way we get back to that is through the Constitution which sets up a representative form of government.
02:41:39.000And that's where the people's voices would be heard, is through their representatives.
02:43:08.000I agree with everything your guest is saying.
02:43:10.000My father came here from Eastern Europe.
02:43:12.000He came here from the Ukraine in 1950.
02:43:15.000He said that he made a remark to my mother after they were married for one year.
02:43:19.000He said, my prediction is going to be that there's going to be Fascism, communism, socialism, whatever you want to label it, here in this country in the near future.
02:44:17.000I mean, I just thought this was a huge facility where they manufactured these washers and dryers for years, and now they make them in China.
02:44:23.000I mean, you see this happening in everyone.
02:44:24.000I just want to ask your guests, how long is this going to go on before someone's smart enough to put a stop to it?
02:44:29.000And I hear people say, you know, there's a point of no return.
02:44:32.000Once this happens, you know, we're not going to get any of this back.
02:44:37.000Well, I believe that people will finally really start putting their foot down and that that dormant spirit of activism will awaken in the American population probably right around the time... this is speculative... probably around the time that this government finally decides it's going to re-institute the draft.
02:45:00.000I remember that during the first Bush administration, Bush Senior instead of Junior, Dan Quayle got up there and was saying, oh, you know, we were all filled with patriotic fervor and we're all going out for the Vietnam War and we were all, you know, willing and enlisting into the military and all, which is nonsense.
02:45:22.000I began to look into, you know, the background there and speak to veterans and speak to people who were actually alive during that period of time in this country Literally became split down the middle and came very close to civil war.
02:45:45.000People just really didn't want to go out for the whole thing.
02:45:50.000They keep on tossing this draft idea around and eventually the draft is... I'm almost certain that eventually they're going to finally just try to implement it.
02:46:02.000And around that time, that's when people are going to say, enough's enough.
02:46:06.000And all I can say is that when that happens, please keep your protests and your different methods of voicing your opinion peaceful.
02:46:21.000And don't head in a violent direction with it all.
02:46:27.000Well, I just want to ask you this, too.
02:46:29.000Have you ever heard of a book or movie called Monopoly Men?
02:47:06.000And of course, real quick, we've got to grab the break here pretty quick, but I want to say one book that I encourage people to read to understand some of the historical analogues of what's going on here is Paul's book, Hidden Face of Terrorism, and also a book that's out there called Ponds in the Game.
02:47:25.000Because it addresses a lot of the stuff about the banking interests and how they have essentially been able to control nations.
02:47:32.000And as Paul was making his point in the first part of the hour today, he was talking about that these national governments are all basically under the control of non-governmental entities, criminal elites, the cabal, whatever you want to call it.
02:47:51.000And then, yes, people do need to get a hold of that book, Ponds and the Games, because you'll be amazed at when this was written and how much of what he said was going to happen has actually come to pass.
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02:51:42.000We continue on Michael Corbin sitting in for Alex Jones, who will return live from Austin, Texas on Monday afternoon.
02:52:04.000As you know, he's in New York on the ground covering the Republican National Convention.
02:52:09.000And I just want to say before we run out of time today that I have thoroughly enjoyed Filling in for him Monday, Tuesday and today and Erskine will join you tomorrow, Thursday and Friday and he will be taking care of business for Alex and of course Alex will be calling in each day with live updates and it's been an honor for me to be here and I've really enjoyed it.
02:52:30.000And again, I want to thank Genesis Communications Network for all that they do as well, because this is so very, very important.
02:52:36.000And as we know, the hope in all of this is I think we are turning the corner.
02:52:40.000People are starting to wake up and realize that there is something very wrong.
02:52:59.000I always find it funny to hear these people arguing about whether someone's communism, or socialist, or fascist, or whatever.
02:53:08.000I mean, does it really make a difference when you've got a guy like Staun that's responsible for 30 million deaths, or a guy like Mao, 30 million, Hitler, how many million, or how about some of our founding fathers who performed genocide on our Native Americans here?
02:53:22.000You know, to me, I don't trust any of these people, no matter what they call them.
02:53:26.000And I look at the Bible, Ecclesiastes 8 and 9, and it's true.
02:53:32.000And anytime you've got any people, any person or people that are going to stand up in front of a platform and say, I've got the answers and I'm going to help you, you know, nobody needs to help me.
02:53:42.000They didn't create me and they're not responsible for me.
02:53:45.000And that's the way it's supposed to be.
02:53:46.000And that's basically what our founding fathers wanted.
02:53:50.000Everybody responsible for their own actions.
02:53:53.000And these representatives were merely figureheads, not some rich elitists out there that are staying up on a platform saying how great it is.
02:54:01.000Yeah, it's great when you're a Bush family and you've got a bottomless bank account or the Kerry family.
02:54:10.000And Paul, real quick, if you could, give out information about how people can get your book again and where it's available.
02:54:17.000Okay, the book is available at Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble.com and that's not just the Hidden Face of Terrorism but the Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship is also available on those sites and I believe that they have a package deal for both books at Amazon.com and also the new fall 2004 edition of Paranoia Magazine features an article over the new book along with a
02:54:47.000With a review of the book, if anybody would like to read what somebody thought of the book prior to purchasing it.
02:54:57.000Hey, real quick too, what have we got on the plate as far as future projects?
02:55:01.000Well, currently right now, we have out the new article, like I said, in Paranoia Magazine, and we have a new article that we have put together that hopefully Paranoia will be and if they don't publish it, we'll find another route over the DSM, the Diagnostical Statistical Manual,
02:55:26.000and how it parallels kind of the Malleus Maleficarum of the Middle Ages. and how it parallels kind of the Malleus Maleficarum of Yeah, see, that's another very, very important element in what's going on here, and that is that the idea of scientism replacing or supplanting religion And I know in a lot of ways that's where all this goes.
02:55:48.000Anyway, Paul, thank you so much again for being on the program, and we'll be in touch.