On today's show, host Alex Jones is joined by Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos, a book that tells exactly what's going on, what led up to today, and where we re headed. Also, Alex Jones will be joining us with reports on the Republican National Convention and of course, Alex is talking about what s going on in America today.
00:01:10.000They're throwing plastic nets over what they call anarchists.
00:01:15.000Yeah, anarchists who happen to be newspaper and television and radio reporters, among others.
00:01:22.000Tourists who happen to be in New York are caught in the net and they're being taken to an old bus station, Pier 57, where they're being processed.
00:01:31.000Some of them stay as long as 18 hours sleeping on the floor, which is oil stained.
00:02:03.000He ran twice on the Libertarian ticket.
00:02:06.000He's going to tell us what it's like to run for President of the United States and why the third parties aren't mentioned anywhere.
00:02:13.000But first, For 10 years Alex Jones has been telling you in video, he's been telling you in books, he's been telling you on radio what's coming to America.
00:02:25.000He has been the Paul Revere leading what is happening in America and now he's displayed the Texas National Guard manual for infrastructure protection which was delivered to him by an insider within that program on his public television access show and According to the manual, they are going to be deploying troops November 1st.
00:02:51.000It goes into detail on the military takeover of civic authorities, city halls, etc.
00:02:56.000It's exactly what Alex has been telling America for the last 10 years.
00:03:02.000Well, according to the Texas National Guard manual, you bet it is coming.
00:03:09.000Lots and lots of step-ups of Customs Enforcement on the Canadian border.
00:03:15.000They say it's to stop V.C.' 's strain of marijuana.
00:03:18.000They're putting stations in Plattsburgh, New York, Detroit, Grand Forks, North Dakota, Great Falls, Montana, and $35.2 million to get Bellingham, Washington fully operational.
00:03:30.000That's among other things that are going on.
00:03:59.000The next President of the United States will be a member of Skull and Bones, an association, a group Coming out of Yale University, where Alex has detailed this, where they had to sleep nude in a coffin, renounce God.
00:04:14.000These are some of the people who are going to be speaking tonight, and either the Republican or the Democratic.
00:04:20.000You've got Kerry, you've got Bush, Skull and Bones 67, Skull and Bones 68, doesn't make a major difference.
00:04:27.000But either one, you're going to have Skull and Bones, and you're going to have God mentioned prominently.
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00:08:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:22.000This is Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones.
00:08:24.000I do a program on Saturday nights on GCN on most of these stations.
00:08:30.000It is on from 9 o'clock until midnight or midnight East Coast time, 9 o'clock West Coast time.
00:08:36.000But for answers, you want answers After the program, go to InfoWars.com or if you can't hear the program, go to InfoWars.com for those who are not listening to a radio station or don't have one available.
00:09:36.000That we need today more than ever Matrix of Evil another video that Alex has out $29.95 you need to get a copy of that and then Paul Joseph Watson is going to be with us talking about Order Out of Chaos Elite Sponsored Terrorism You know, 50% of the New Yorkers believe that the Bush Administration is not telling the truth and has something to do with the 9-11.
00:12:06.000Those, if you're in a state with a Republican governor, chances are they have suspended the gas tax.
00:12:12.000And that is one of the reasons that the price has been kept down.
00:12:17.000And it takes 6 weeks reflection, the oil prices, to show up at the pumps.
00:12:23.000By the end of September, you are going to see $3 a barrel oil prices.
00:12:29.000The other economic girly men issue which should be addressed is the pension guarantee fund.
00:12:36.000These people, talk about your economic girly men, the pension guarantee fund when the Bush-Cheney regime took office had a surplus.
00:12:46.000Now it is 350 billion dollars in debt.
00:12:52.000Those working for Delta Airlines, matter of fact most of the airlines other than Southwest, most of the airlines The workers have lost their pension.
00:13:26.000According to articles up on PrisonPlan.com, InfoWars.com, he may be drug out before the election.
00:13:36.000Well, let's hope he's drug out and we don't have another terror event in the United States.
00:13:41.000The fact that President Bush is now coming up in the polls and perhaps leading may allay the fact that we may have a terror event.
00:13:49.000Yes, it may be the fact that if people believe that the President is going to win, If it looks like he's ahead in the polls, if they're able to rig the election like they did last time, and President Bush, it looks like he's going to win the election, there may not be another terror event.
00:15:08.000Now what that's going to do is put an end to the western domination of international oil trade.
00:15:14.000The US and the UK, they're home to the world's largest oil markets.
00:15:20.000Aren't going to allow Iran to undermine their control because according to this they're going to be paid in dinars which is gold, gold backed payment that's all they want for oil is gold not fiat US dollars And if Iran comes through with this, then the game is up.
00:16:01.000and he was so crazy that they went after him they cannot allow payment for actually I think Saddam was actually trying to get payment in euros it has to be in US dollars otherwise otherwise our ship is sunk so when Iran is coming up with a new oil exchange based on gold they are panicked they are panicked so you're going to hear more and more about Saddam or rather Iran
00:16:35.000You're going to hear the same arguments dug out on Iran because of this new oil trading market.
00:16:42.000They're going to launch it for the Middle East and OPEC producers.
00:16:46.000It's going to threaten the supremacy of London's International Petroleum Exchange.
00:16:51.000A contract to design and establish a new platform for crude oil, natural gas, and petrochemical trades, and it's going to be signed with an international consortium actually within the next few days.
00:17:04.000Top oil producing countries are determined to seize more control of trading after being advised the existing markets, such as the IPE and NYMEX in New York, aren't working in their favor.
00:17:21.000The Tehran Oil Bruce is scheduled to open in 2005 according to Mohammed Shaviv Asimpour, who's personal advisor to the Iranian Energy Minister.
00:17:32.000They're in the final stage of choosing a concession for what's going to be a very big development for them and for the region and for the world.
00:17:42.000This is going to be the one determining factor.
00:18:04.000I've talked to people who are candidates for other parties, other than Democrats and Republicans, and they are essentially on the no-fly list.
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00:24:57.000Yeah, that really sets it up, doesn't it?
00:25:00.000But it's a book which you really should have, and Ted Anderson, you buy the book, he's going to give you a silver dollar, some real money, so that's something well worth looking at.
00:25:09.000On this election, you've got a choice between the lesser of two evils.
00:25:13.000What's wrong with the lesser of two evils?
00:27:27.000Well, Sherry, don't you believe that either you vote for Bush or you vote for Kerry, you're voting the lesser of two evils, and the lesser of two evils is what?
00:27:53.000And we're just going through the motions.
00:27:55.000But you say his, tell them a little bit more about his interview.
00:27:58.000You say it was just absolutely dramatic.
00:28:01.000It was great because you have these total, you know, little clone, neocon Republicans, and you know, everybody talking about, you know, Hale Bush.
00:28:14.000And there Alex is, you know, and he looks the part.
00:28:35.000So somebody out there has got to have A tape of this?
00:28:39.000I don't imagine that C-SPAN is going to allow that tape to exist very long.
00:28:46.000No, no, I think you're probably right.
00:28:49.000But you've got to run those tape recorders when you've got something like C-SPAN live because next time, I remember Congolese Rice testifying before the 9-11 Commission when they asked her and she said, We had no idea that a missile was going to fly into the Pentagon, and then when you go back and read the transcript, that's out of there!
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00:33:11.000This is Erskine sitting in for Alex Jones.
00:33:35.000As if anyone can sit in for Alex Jones.
00:33:37.000Alex Jones, who just appeared on C-SPAN, according to Sherry in Texas, calm, cool, in the belly of the beast, telling it like it is on television, live, where it can't be cut.
00:34:12.000Go to PrisonPlan.com, Infowars.com, but get this video, American Dictators, also Matrix of Evil and Order Out of Chaos by Paul Joseph Watson, who's going to be joining us as he's been on this program all week.
00:34:26.000To get in touch with me, Erskine on Radio.com.
00:34:29.000And my program is on Saturday nights at 9 o'clock Pacific, Midnight on the East Coast.
00:34:36.000Let's go to Bill in Vermont, the Green Mountain State, where they've got the best maple syrup in the entire world.
00:34:48.000I just want to say that I had some problems with the law the other day.
00:34:51.000They raided my house and took some of my sacred plants, or not plants, but herbs, and I think that This is completely wrong.
00:35:01.000I've always been taught by the hand of God to use herbs to heal myself and I feel that it's terribly wrong that they can break into my house and take my marijuana and they took my money and they think that I'm some drug dealer and I'm not.
00:35:15.000Just a normal American trying to heal myself in these troubled times like the rest of us.
00:35:20.000Bill, let me tell you how bad it's got.
00:35:22.000There are 3.2% of the American population, adult American population, is now in prison.
00:35:56.000They can pump you full of synthetic chemicals that are exact copies of what's in these substances that they're taking away from the people.
00:37:05.000They're just jerking us around with those things and they're raiding people and they're taking away their money, their livelihood, everything.
00:37:12.000Including some herbs that they may have for their own health.
00:37:20.000We are under a police state, make no mistake about it.
00:37:23.000I just want to conclude that Alex is doing a wonderful thing, and I wish I had cleaned myself out earlier, even though I feel that it was God's gift to me.
00:37:32.000I wish I had, so that way I can fight the world order more.
00:37:37.000But, you know, I just want to let everyone else know, be extremely careful, and we will prevail eventually, because, you know, it's the righteous that will prevail, and, you know, the true evil of this world.
00:37:49.000Well, we have read the Bible, Bill, and we know what happens in the end, and it makes no sense to go with the other side.
00:37:56.000You've got to do what is the right thing to do, and you have to ask yourself, what would Jesus do?
00:38:03.000You've got to stay on that side and do the positive and think about it in terms of In those terms, not saying God bless America and all these phrases and then go out and do everything else that's wrong.
00:38:46.000I don't know what it is, Steriskens, but I talked to a woman and actually showed her the InfoWars article on the nine-year-old boy in New Mexico and the actions of the police.
00:38:59.000And the lady had advised me that she was a bus driver at one time and that children can be very disruptive.
00:39:19.000I mean, what are these guys with badges doing?
00:39:22.000The reason it hit me is I used to be a police officer for many years and I got out.
00:39:30.000What I read there and heard about on the days before It affected me so deeply because I used to, uh, I used to bend over backwards for little ones.
00:39:52.000I'm, I'm, this upsets me because I've had explained to this lady, if they can do this to an innocent nine year old child and they're innocent to start with, you know, as a law, period.
00:41:06.000And how many people today know about the Constitution of the United States of America?
00:41:11.000There are 872 books, 874, I'm sorry, that if you look at them, they are considered questionable by the Attorney General of the United States.
00:41:21.000If you check them out of the library, if you get them from Amazon, are any of them about how to make bombs?
00:41:32.000You take an oath, and I know, I know as sure as God made little green apples, Fred, you took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, and now they're not even allowing you to read about that document, that great document that Yes, and it's a sorry thing.
00:41:52.000And the complacency, my friend, is horrible.
00:41:56.000I've tried waking people up, and you're a follower that's probably dealt a lot on talk shows.
00:42:14.000The only person that I've heard who had a really marvelous response to that was Al Martin, who was on my program a number of times and every month.
00:42:22.000And Al said, there are only three things that are going to wake up the American people.
00:42:25.000Number one, if the NFL goes pay-for-view.
00:42:29.000Number two, if the beer trucks stop running.
00:42:31.000And number three, if Domino's Pizza refuses to deliver, he said, then the American people will wake up.
00:42:47.000Paul Joseph Watson is here with us, author of Order Out of Chaos, and this is the book.
00:42:55.000It tells everything that's going on, and Paul, I wish to goodness it wasn't so accurate.
00:43:01.000Well, hello, it's good to be on the air again.
00:43:04.000Um, before we get into the news, I think you had a caller around about 15 minutes ago who was talking about Alex's appearance on C-SPAN, and I've been getting calls about that as well.
00:43:14.000So, just to put the call out, obviously, if anyone has taped that interview, then please send it to Alex at his South Lamar address, or better still, if you can rip it and get it on an online format, please email it to me, and I'll post it on the website.
00:43:33.000You want that email to you at PrisonPlanet.com?
00:43:37.000Yeah, the email address is on the website.
00:43:39.000A quick update on what's been happening in New York.
00:43:44.000Obviously tonight we're expecting the majority of protests and any possible provocateur actions to take place before and after Bush's speech.
00:43:53.000But in the news today are more examples of police brutality, as you mentioned at the top of the show.
00:44:01.000Firstly, they're arresting the protesters and taking them to this retrofitted bus station called Pier 57.
00:44:08.000And really, I mean, the only difference between it And Guantanamo Bay are the orange jumpsuits because they've set up these pen-style cages which scores of protesters are kept in cramped conditions without food or water for anything up to, you know, 18 to 24 hours at a time.
00:44:28.000You know, there's motor oil all over the floor.
00:44:31.000And so, I mean, it's pertinent to ask, why are these people there in the first place?
00:44:36.000And we've got a New York Daily News article today on the website which talks about this.
00:44:40.000Married couples who were in New York for a honeymoon weren't even involved with the protests, were part of the mass roundups that occurred on Tuesday night.
00:44:50.000Middle-aged mothers who were trying to get home from work passing through Ground Zero, grabbed and taken to this same facility.
00:44:58.000People who stood on barricades to get a better view of the protest were arrested.
00:45:02.000Most of you listeners will remember the story that came out on Friday night with the arrest of 200 bicycle protest as well.
00:45:11.000They also arrested anyone on a bicycle.
00:45:14.000That was the policy, just to arrest anyone on a bicycle.
00:45:17.000So you've got bicycle messengers who can't get back to work because they've had their bicycles impounded.
00:45:22.000And, you know, that's just in one New York Daily News article today.
00:45:26.000And the security is a joke because the same newspaper reports that it's ridiculously easy for anyone to acquire a pass to get into the convention.
00:45:38.000And yet there's supposed to be this so-called national security perimeter around the convention itself.
00:45:45.000Well, the cops are beating old ladies in the face, arresting medics so they can't get treatment, and plowing into large groups of people with mopeds.
00:45:54.000People are just walking straight into the convention with somebody else's pass.
00:45:59.000They had protesters who were arrested inside the convention yesterday just walking right in.
00:46:05.000The other thing that got me, Paul, and all this information is up on prisonplanet.com, Infowars.com, either one of those websites.
00:46:16.000The other thing that got me was they were chanting, this is what a prison state looks like.
00:46:21.000This is what a prison state looks like.
00:46:24.000Well, Alex's message got to those people inside those cages, the tourists who were taken in and the people there.
00:46:33.000They're going to be listening to Alex's message.
00:46:43.000I mean, all these armed cops are just another example of what I've been, you know, ranting about all week.
00:46:49.000They're not there to stop terrorists, because, you know, can anyone give me an example of when armed terrorists have had firefights with cops in America?
00:46:56.000If they were really terrorists who wanted to assassinate Republicans, they could just walk in right through the front door with somebody else's pass.
00:47:04.000So, I mean, the police state, if anything, makes the city less secure because the policy is to brutally suppress the peaceful protesters while any real threat from people gaining access to the convention building itself is completely ignored.
00:47:20.000It's more about thought control than it is about terror control.
00:48:14.000What they define as terrorism, as you were pointing out, is any kind of political activism.
00:48:20.000I mean, we've got a story on the top of PrisonPlanet.com right now with the headline, 19-year-old with political bumper sticker gets visit from Secret Service.
00:48:29.000Now, this was a teenager in Salt Lake County who had a bumper sticker with a black and white cartoon drawing of Bush with a crown tilted on his head and the words, King George off with his head written beneath it.
00:48:42.000The neighbors see it and, you know, sensing their patriotic duty for the homeland, call the secret service.
00:48:51.000I mean, in every case I see of this, you know, Stasi-like behavior, what amazes me equally is not just that these idiots who, you know, make the call, but the fact that the secret service actually turn up to investigate it.
00:49:05.000No, I've talked to people who have had their neighbours called the Department of Defence because they stay up late at night.
00:49:11.000And again, the DoD turned up and started asking questions.
00:49:15.000So, I mean, you know, what does this tell us?
00:49:17.000It tells us that the government seriously believes that political bumper stickers and staying up past 1am are, you know, signs of potential terrorism.
00:49:27.000And as I mentioned earlier, even if you believe there are terrorists in America, just like the passes to get into the convention, any real threat is purposefully ignored.
00:49:38.000We've got a whole section on prisonplanet.com in the Police State Archive under the dissent is subversive category, where there are numerous past examples of this kind of thing.
00:49:50.000Twelve-year-old boys being investigated for doing school research papers on Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
00:49:56.000Teenage students who criticized Bush in a class debate in Oakland.
00:50:22.000I've had, uh, given out the deception dollars, which you're very familiar with, and I had people say, I can't go to those websites, they'll know where I'm going.
00:50:30.000And I said, You are in America and you're afraid of that?
00:50:35.000If you're that afraid of it, you better consider something else.
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00:54:20.000This is the Alex Jones Radio Program you're listening to, and this is Erskine Substitute hosting for Alex, as if anyone could really substitute for the great Alex Jones, sitting in temporarily today and tomorrow for Alex Jones.
00:54:34.000His website, www.infowars.com, prisonplanet.com, where you can get a copy of his new video, American Dictators.
00:54:55.000Diebold and these other companies have set it aside.
00:54:58.000You've got the lesser of two evils who's going to win.
00:55:01.000I'll tell you two things that are going to happen.
00:55:03.000Number one, someone from Skull and Bones is going to be elected president.
00:55:07.000And number two, you're not going to hear any terror alerts going to Orange and Tom Ridge and those boys are not going to be on television this week.
00:55:15.000This is the safest week to be anywhere in the United States of America.
00:55:19.000To get in touch with me, Erskine on Radio.com.
00:55:25.000And coming up Saturday night at nine o'clock Pacific, midnight on the East Coast, Professor Donald W. Scott from Ontario, Canada is going to be talking about AIDS and chronic fatigue, how they both were formed in the laboratory.
00:56:12.000First of all, for you, Paul, what was your first impression when you heard of the supposed information on threats of terrorist attacks on our media?
00:56:31.000And it was tied in with the other information which came out, which was three years old, four years old.
00:56:37.000They came out with that threat to kowtow the media from, you know, taking any kind of in-depth coverage to the protests, and in particular the police brutality which was about to take place in New York, which primarily took place on a Tuesday night.
00:56:52.000So obviously, if you come out and say that the media or targets of terrorists, then the media are going to be even more watchful and even more submissive to the police state that's there in New York.
00:57:03.000So then they're going to try and rationalize it in the articles and the TV reports that they put out later on.
00:57:08.000So it's just another bullying tactic, a fear tactic, to make the media have that kind of mindset.
00:57:16.000So you think that the media might actually already be hip to the idea that these people might do something to them under the guise of terrorism?
00:57:27.000I mean, we know about the agent provocateurs.
00:57:30.000We had reports Tuesday night about Black Block Anarchists.
00:57:34.000He wouldn't say which group they were affiliated with burning trash cans.
00:57:38.000So if anything like that is going to happen, then it's going to happen tonight.
01:00:15.000They can't allow the truth to come out, can they?
01:00:18.000Well, no, and the Iraq analogy is key because before they went into Najaf and, you know, bombed it to bits.
01:00:26.000They said to the journalists you'd leave or you'd be executed and that's the same policy they've been following right from before the war even started when they said that in a BBC report this came out that the Pentagon had given the order to Fire down upon independent journalists who were reporting from Iraq.
01:00:46.000The policy was to kill any independent journalists, which is why we saw a wave of death of independent journalists in Iraq, like the Reuters photographer who stumbled across a mass grave that was being used to bury US troops, so the casualty numbers wouldn't get back to the public in America.
01:01:04.000So, um, that's the process that they went through in Iraq right from the start, and the tactic that the caller mentioned could indeed be used.
01:01:12.000I mean, on Monday, we had, um, the filmmakers who were making a film about a protest, and the police came up and arrested the, um, characters in the film, the fictional characters in the film, for wearing, um, bandanas, while they'll let all these, um, provocative black bloc anarchists who wear full face masks go free.
01:01:44.000How are they getting by with that one?
01:01:46.000Well, there's a wide spectrum of protesters, but to label them as anarchists and troublemakers will obviously lead to the justification of the crackdown that then ensues.
01:01:57.000I mean, I don't agree with many of the issues that these protesters are campaigning about, but the bottom line is the First Amendment, and that's being squashed in New York, and they're creating the pretext for even more police state in later protests.
01:02:09.000So, I mean, it's obvious to see what's going on.
01:03:02.000If you don't have a copy of it, if you do have a copy, get it out and play it.
01:03:07.000When someone goes over the house, you say, hey look, here's something I think you might like to see or Give it to them and say, I want it back, but here's a copy of it.
01:03:17.000Look at this and tell me what you think.
01:03:18.000I've got a friend who makes 30 copies of everything.
01:03:21.000Alex says, go ahead, do it, because he wants the information out.
01:03:24.000Let's go immediately to my friend, Steve, listening up in Colorado.
01:03:32.000Haven't talked to you for a long time.
01:03:34.000No, it looks like we're going to take a short break, Steve, but as soon as we get back, you are on absolutely as soon as we get back with Paul Joseph Watson.
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01:07:33.000But you can turn on your computer, you can listen to your radio station, because Paul Joseph Watson will be on with me for an hour and a half, and you're more than welcome to call in.
01:07:44.000Also this week on the program, the very first hour at midnight East Coast time, we're having Donald Scott and he's going to talk about the real origin of AIDS and chronic fatigue, how it came out of our own government's research program.
01:08:00.000It's going to be a fascinating program.
01:08:03.000And then the last hour this week, we're having Harry Brown.
01:08:26.000Yeah, I haven't actually got it yet, but my question for him was, if he remembers who it was on the, I think it was on your program, or I mean on Alex's program, It was mentioned that there was one of the speakers at the convention there that had mentioned that the Patriot Act was okay.
01:08:52.000They were trying to say from the podium there at the convention that the Patriot Act was not to be feared, etc.
01:09:02.000Was that you, Paul, that mentioned that?
01:09:07.000I haven't actually been able to catch much of the speeches.
01:09:10.000It might have been our friend Arnold there, because he went into how, you know, it was a police state back in Austria, and how we're all so free in America today, you know, as the police outside are beating old ladies in the face.
01:09:21.000So, it might have been Arnie, I'm not sure.
01:09:26.000Well, you know, the sad thing is that the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party Which are today's neocons that have finally taken over the Republican Party.
01:09:38.000The true Republicans have been kind of basically ostracized and squelched.
01:09:43.000Well, those of us like myself who believed in a smaller government, who believed in a government responsible, a government out of the people's bedrooms, out of everything, let us do our own thing.
01:09:59.000The conservative, as I grew up thinking I was conservative, we're gone!
01:10:51.000Paul, I'm a Prison Planet TV subscriber.
01:10:55.000And anyone out there listening who is not, needs to be.
01:10:59.000If they're spending $50 a month on regular cable TV, they're wasting their money.
01:11:07.000Paul, what I wanted to ask you, I hate to ask this because it sounds like a special request, but I'm an attorney and through Sunday through Wednesday I was very involved in a trial.
01:11:22.000And was not able to catch any of Alex's reports from New York either during the 11 to 2 section or when it was repeated later in the evening from 9 to midnight.
01:11:35.000Is there any chance that maybe by the weekend those could be archived on Prison Planet TV so I could see them?
01:12:32.000And now, if there's a weakness that can be made stronger, then we're allowed to do that.
01:12:40.000Under the Constitution, what it does is it gives us freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to defend that assembly, to challenge authority in case we think they're taking your and my loved one's future away from us.
01:12:52.000But the people in their heart who are in the government know that the police are going to be sent against that assembly, even though they're in agreement with you.
01:13:02.000The mother would be against it, whose son is in the military, who would later be sent against it.
01:13:07.000It's against the ATF, FBI, CIA, who would be sent against that assembly, even if they're in agreement.
01:13:14.000And so, in that perception, those same people would want the public disarmed.
01:13:23.000I think they put the Second Amendment in the Constitution, not to protect you from a bank robber, or not to protect you from somebody breaking into your house, but to protect you from the government.
01:13:34.000The Constitution was written, as I read the Constitution, to keep the government in check.
01:13:41.000To keep the government in check, because your rights come from God, not from the government.
01:13:46.000That was the key, and that's what made our Constitutional form, our Constitutional Republic so beautiful, is that your rights are guaranteed by God, they're not given to you by the government.
01:13:56.000So what I would like to do is try to strengthen that just a little bit with a little more commentary, and that's that these same people, okay, when they, now when they're standing in a line as an individual, Among 500 others, and they think they're the only ones that think the way they do, that they're against what's going on, but they're forced to do that to keep their paycheck and the roof over their children's head.
01:14:21.000So, yes, we change our motives to where we feel that these police officers, when they're told to do something they know is wrong, they need a refuge.
01:14:31.000So if we change our motives in direction to make sure that our police have a refuge at home, And we all work toward that refuge at home to where we make sure we're loving our next door neighbors, ourselves, doing the good deeds to become bonded.
01:14:46.000So we give these people at refuge ATF, FBI, CIA.
01:14:51.000If we work toward that, then these same government people would want you armed to make sure their family is safe.
01:14:58.000You're no longer a threat because of the message you're sending out.
01:15:02.000Which it states the motives we're really after.
01:15:05.000And so, in that sense, it is a form of unity, but it's for the good of everybody.
01:15:12.000Now, it makes it to where those same people feel that a rescue is on the way, and that if they are being told to do something they know is wrong, what other place do they need to feel safe than at home?
01:15:26.000And if we all work toward getting that refuge established for each of these people, who are good people, who work within the government, it would actually bring it to where the injustice of staying against these people who would be sent against that assembly.
01:15:44.000Okay, I don't know how I feel about that.
01:15:48.000Well, I mean, the bottom line is, yeah, we need to educate the police, but The big question is, you know, how extreme do the orders have to get before the police say no?
01:15:58.000And in one sense you say that, yeah, police are good individuals, especially if we educate them on a grassroots level, but then on the flip side there have been psychological experiments throughout the decades which show that Any instruction from authority is obeyed under the right conditions.
01:16:16.000I mean there was the famous experiment where people were said to have been giving electric shocks to other participants in the experiment and they were told to give an electric shock which would normally kill the other person and the vast majority gave the electric shock which shows that the human submissiveness to authority is paramount.
01:16:38.000So when that order comes down for the police, for example, to take people into concentration camps, will their natural human goodness reject that and disobey the order, or will that innate kind of submissiveness to any kind of presumed authority go ahead and obey the order?
01:16:55.000So that's why we need to educate police as to the very nature of authority and the commands that they should and should not follow.
01:17:38.000The man may still have or lady may still have a badge saying I'm A police officer in Utica, New York, I'm a police officer in Austin, Texas, but they now are also U.S.
01:17:50.000The other thing that I noticed in Phoenix, they have the Department of Justice, FBI, and the Sheriff of Maricopa County, and they put out a document called, if you encounter any of the following, the Joint Terrorism Task Force.
01:18:04.000Among those that you should watch out for are anybody who says they have Christian identity, Well, that would be a lot of us.
01:18:16.000Anybody who is a defender of the U.S. Constitution against the federal government and the U.N. or a super patriot, hmm, that would be a bunch of us.
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01:23:33.000I've been listening for about three months now.
01:23:35.000And I just want to know, how is it right for the government to profile people who stay up past 1 or to question the government, but not to profile people coming in across our borders if the so-called terrorists came across the borders, came from out of the country?
01:23:57.000We've done a lot of programs, as Alex has done a lot of programs, and you've heard on Erskine Overnight, you've heard on Alex Jones about the illegal aliens coming across, and how there are virtually no restraints and no issues, the number that are coming across and piling into America, estimated to be, what is it, 15 million or more that are in?
01:24:19.000And, I mean, They have had people coming over who are of various extracts, not just Mexican, but various extracts.
01:24:28.000You've got truckers who are now going throughout America.
01:24:31.000Truck drivers should be up in arms about what's happening to the trucks coming across from Mexico.
01:24:40.000Yeah, I think they ought to certainly be looking at it.
01:24:43.000We ought to maintain borders in America first.
01:24:47.000Your comment on what he was talking about, Paul?
01:24:50.000Well yeah, as I've been talking about throughout the show, the real threats are ignored.
01:24:54.000The terrorists coming across the borders is the main threat.
01:24:58.000Another big threat is arming of China.
01:25:03.000Republicans during Clinton's re-election campaign Um, Craig Fowle, that, you know, he was using arms to China to fund his campaign, and many of the whistleblowers who spoke out against it, like Ron Brown, were killed for doing so.
01:25:17.000But now I've posted an article on PrisonPlanet.com with the headline, Bush Administration Removes Barriers on Sale of Nuke Reactors to China.
01:25:26.000And now officially all the sanctions, all the controls, all the barriers have been taking off exporting nuclear components to China because now apparently it's okay to trust China that they won't use the technology for weapons proliferation.
01:25:40.000Oh no, they won't use the weapons, right.
01:25:44.000And also, you know, we can't afford to make China too upset or Walmart won't have anything to sell.
01:25:52.000Well, it's the same country, China, that's increasing military expenditure.
01:25:56.000You know, military build-up, 9% a year.
01:25:58.000And over the last few months, we've carried articles which lay out China's stated intention to invade Taiwan within the next two years.
01:26:06.000And the Bush administration's response has basically been, you know, go right ahead, we'll do nothing to stop you.
01:26:13.000In the face of them hyping the threat from Iran and North Korea, as you mentioned, their development of the nuclear bomb, they're now shipping a shopping list of nuke parts to China, who have armed and continue to arm Iran and North Korea.
01:26:28.000Are they forgetting that it's still Communist China?
01:26:32.000Well, it's overtly communist, and it goes back to the old self-fulfilling prophecy, as I document, in order out of chaos, they're building up the enemies they need in preparation for a third world war, while introducing bills for a draft, because, as is contained in the Project for a New American Century documents, they plan for multi theater wars with the ultimate goal being war with China and they need hundreds of thousands dead Americans to achieve that goal
01:27:00.000so again it goes back to ignoring the real threats while targeting American citizens like people who put bumper stickers on their car and people who stay up past 1am as potential terrorists while the real threat is ignored.
01:27:14.000Make no mistake, Congressman Regal has proposed a bill Senator Hollings has a bill.
01:27:18.000There are a number of bills about a draft.
01:27:21.000You're going to see that immediately after the election.
01:27:44.000I want to mention about this Federal Grand Jury investigation of Richard Chaney.
01:27:52.000Oh yes, did you by any chance Fred see 60 Minutes Sunday Night when they had about the Halliburton doing the business in the Caymans and how many people work there?
01:28:03.000How many people would you think work in their Caymans office which is their main headquarters?
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01:32:25.000Hal Burton's accountant, Arthur Anderson, the Enron-like accounting scheme under Cheney's watch.
01:32:32.000You've also got, well, we can just go on and on and on about the Cheney connection.
01:32:38.000The man who still believes the Al Qaeda connection to Saddam Hussein, or at least is telling everybody about that.
01:32:44.000And we're talking with a gentleman, Fred, who's got a lot to tell us, and go ahead, Fred.
01:32:50.000Okay, I want to say that I looked back at an Alex Jones article, Total Police Day Takeover, that's the title of his article, and he has mentioned, talks about Patriot 2, and he says, quote, Section 128 allows the federal government to place gag orders on federal and state grand juries and to take over the proceedings.
01:33:19.000It also disallows individuals or organizations to even try to quash a federal subpoena.
01:33:26.000So, you have an investigation and under Patriot II, the federal government can hijack a grand jury, which is supposed to be something that, you know, is independent.
01:33:49.000Well, yeah, just to add something else.
01:33:51.000I mean, the myth peddled by the establishment media is that Cheney, as we know, he's resigned from Albert and several years ago, no longer makes money out of these deals.
01:34:01.000When I've got a London Guardian article from March 1203, Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor Halliburton.
01:34:10.000The Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for post-war construction contracts is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the Vice President Dick Cheney.
01:34:25.000The payments which appear on Mr. Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement are in the form of deferred compensation of up to $1 million a year So that myth that he's not involved with it anymore is defeated by the fact that they're still making annual payments to him.
01:34:44.000So he's still making money from Halliburton, and you've not only got that, but you've also got selling goods now, according to 60 Minutes, to Iran, selling goods to other nations that they say are promoting terrorism.
01:34:57.000This is tantamount to what Prescott Bush did, and Paul, what did Prescott Bush do?
01:35:03.000I mean, this is in your order out of chaos, wasn't he one of the people who financed Adolf Hitler?
01:35:09.000Well yeah, he ran the steel and many of the bombings which took place in Germany focused away from the kind of factories where the bush money was rested.
01:35:19.000So he did arm Hitler and he funded Hitler's war machine to a massive degree.
01:35:23.000So it's just a continuation of that kind of policy.
01:35:26.000So you had Prescott Bush doing the same thing that Dick Cheney's doing, so you can see the similarity there.
01:35:33.000Neither one, and both of them, are coming down with the Patriot Bills, and we have fewer and fewer openings with the government.
01:35:41.000These Patriot Bills make the government more enclosed, makes us, we've lost our privacy, the government has encompassed itself in a cocoon of paperwork to where you can't find out what's going on anymore.
01:36:20.000There are reports of that being used in New York, aren't there Paul?
01:36:24.000Yeah, it's a white police armoured Humvee vehicle which on it is mounted this acoustic sound weapon which puts out decibels at high levels to disperse large numbers of people.
01:36:36.000And I had reports Tuesday night that they rolled it into Union Square.
01:36:42.000I don't think they actually used it, it was just a kind of fear device, but as the protests are set to escalate tonight during Bush's speech, there is a possibility that they will use it tonight.
01:37:10.000I know a prison guard in a minimum security prison here in Central Texas and about three weeks ago he told me that they were going to be federally deputized and I asked him why.
01:37:19.000At the time he insinuated it was so the Bush administration could claim that they put X amount of more police on the street by reclassifying these prison guards as federal deputies.
01:37:30.000And now it seems that perhaps it would be so that they would fall under the Patriot Act.
01:37:35.000And I'm just curious what the implication is with all these duly deputized federal employees falling under the Patriot Act.
01:37:45.000So my way of thinking that by putting them under the Patriot Act standards where they can have greater powers and they are operating now as a federal police force, it's taking the control away from your local police and putting it in the hands of the federal police would be my thinking about it.
01:38:06.000Well yeah, we had a story last night out of United Press International which talks about a fired prison guard in Chicago called John Burge who claimed 108 men, they claimed they were victims of torture, electric shock, suffocation and other abuse over the 20 years that Burge was in the police force.
01:38:27.000Those are the kind of people that they want to put out there on the streets.
01:38:31.000And I mean, again, this fusing the military with the police is because the military treat us as the enemy.
01:38:36.000The old definition of a peace officer that we help and he helps us is gone.
01:38:41.000We're now the enemy, which is why they're doing this.
01:39:29.000That's the one where the British Army was, after France was routed by the Germans, the British Army was stuck there on the beach at Dunkirk.
01:39:39.000The Germans could have destroyed them, but they let them go, and all of the boats, fishing boats, whatever, came from England and escorted the English Army back to England.
01:39:56.000About Rudolf Hess' secret mission to London.
01:39:58.000If you have any inside information about that, what that might have been about.
01:40:02.000Yeah, I mean obviously that was right before the war started and it was a reconciliation agreement in Britain around half of the Royal Family I think and this later came out in reports which we covered over the last couple of years around half of the British Royal Family wanted to go ahead and accept that agreement and appease Hitler because obviously the British Royal Family, their genealogical roots tie in with Hitler and the Sachs-Kohlbergs so
01:40:30.000There was a movement amongst the British Royals to appease Hitler right before the war started, so that's what was going on with the Hess visit, but obviously Churchill rejected it.
01:40:40.000I thought that happened in 1941 when the war was already going on, and then they locked him up instead.
01:40:48.000I think there were also efforts at appeasement right before the war started, so I think there's at least two examples where that kind of thing happened.
01:40:56.000You have to also look at the situation when the United States declared independence from Great Britain in 1776.
01:41:02.000King George back then, hmm, George again, well, King George back then didn't even speak English, he spoke German.
01:41:10.000Okay, let's go immediately to, uh, let's see, who is it?
01:41:23.000First of all, the answer to the last question, the quote-unquote miracle at Dunkirk, there's an excellent explanation in that, in Jackie Petrou's Sweet Liberty website, and what Hitler's purpose was, is that if someone comes to understand it, Hitler was trying to prevent the Bolsheviks, which really was the Russian movement westward, was nothing more than the expansion of the International Revolution of 1917 from Russia to all of Western Europe,
01:41:53.000And Hitler recognized, he said, quote unquote, there's two entities whose presence and activity is indispensably necessary to the stability of the world, and that is the British Empire and the Catholic Church.
01:42:04.000And so he had an interest, he was trying to ally with Britain Against the Russian expansion into all of Europe, which was phase number two of the International Revolution, which anyone who has read Prodigals of Elders of Zion and the Babylonian Talmud would understand that they couldn't take over the British Empire until they had taken over all of Europe, and that's the purpose.
01:42:23.000They financed Hitler to raise up a boogeyman as a pretext upon which the Russian horde So the same thing's happening today, okay.
01:42:39.000He would have been nothing more than Corporal Hitler and a failed art student if it hadn't been for the Bolsheviks who financed him to raise him up as a pretext.
01:42:47.000But the issue I was specifically going to get to is I'm in the city of Chicago here, and we have Mayor Richard Daley, who's an absolutely abominable pro-genocide, gun control, rabid fanatic.
01:42:59.000And the other thing is he's imposing his morality on Alan Keyes.
01:43:03.000He's demanding Alan Keyes apologize for statements that were in no way argumentative or offensive to anyone when Alan Keyes merely explicated his religious position in regard to homosexuality.
01:43:14.000But I've been outside of the Mayor's City Hall, basically trying to wake people up in regard to the issue of gun control and show them how it has absolutely nothing to do with the prevention of crime because crime rates always go down where people are allowed to carry weapons and they always go up where gun control is imposed.
01:43:33.000But I have two specific questions, and that is, I'm wondering if anyone has read the article by Mike Vanderwoel, "What good is a handgun against an army?" And I'm looking for material that I would read through the megaphone to the public outside of City Hall in Chicago, so that through rhetorical questioning and Socratic method, people can come to the conclusion themselves that they can't afford not
01:44:01.000Okay, let me give you a book and a person whom I would recommend to you.
01:44:11.000It is called Dial 911 and Die by Richard Stevens.
01:44:16.000It's how the police have no obligation to help you or anything else.
01:44:19.000And the other person that I would get in touch with is Aaron Zellman.
01:44:24.000A-A-R-O-N-C-E-L-M-A-N, and it's Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
01:44:51.000I'm wondering what the cameras are set up.
01:44:52.000There's got to be cameras on all the corners of those buildings.
01:44:55.000And if I should get falsely arrested in terms of preserving a civil rights claim against the police, because I'm going to do everything I can to get under Daley's skin and prevent him from getting away, Richard Daley, with the maintaining of the pretext that he is trying to do anything for the public's interest.
01:45:10.000Richard Daley has four or five bodyguards At the public expense, and yet in Chicago we can't even own any type of handgun, much less carry any type of weapon.
01:45:20.000The only thing you can own is a... Well, then that makes the city completely safe, doesn't it?
01:45:23.000You don't even need a bodyguard or anything.
01:45:25.000You have no drive-by shootings or anything.
01:45:27.000In Chicago, no hold-ups or anything, because you can't carry handguns.
01:45:31.000That should be the safest city in the world.
01:45:33.000The murder capital of the world, the cars.
01:45:37.000The other thing I was going to ask is real quick is if you would comment on, first of all, do you know in terms of what cameras, there's got to be cameras in all those city buildings, wouldn't that be a correct at this juncture?
01:45:48.000In other words, if I'm standing out on City Hall... You can always anticipate they've got cameras everywhere, Robert.
01:45:54.000You can anticipate that and one of the people who talks about the surveillance state that we're under is Paul Joseph Watson in Order Out of Chaos.
01:46:01.000Aren't we under complete surveillance anywhere you go more or less today?
01:46:06.000In London alone, there are 4.2 million cameras.
01:46:09.000So we've got a movement where there should be... Come on!
01:46:17.000So it's safe to conclude, then, if I do get... something happens to me on a city street around City Hall, there's definitely going to be film.
01:46:23.000I just have to go through the discovery process of a federal lawsuit to... Oh yeah, there's film somewhere no matter what you do.
01:48:08.000So, I mean, they cross over at will because, as we know, the rhetoric is different but the agenda in the two parties is the same.
01:48:14.000Regarding the first question about the C-SPAN thing, we're still waiting to get that.
01:48:19.000We've looked on the C-SPAN website and it's It's not on there as far as we've looked so we're asking for anyone who managed to take that to rip it into a media file and email it to me or if that's not possible then send a hard copy to Alex and then we'll be able to get it on the website within a few days so we're still trying to get that up.
01:48:40.000You betcha, the key to it is it was a live interview, am I right Paul?
01:48:44.000That was live, they weren't able to cut Alex!
01:48:47.000As far as I know, it was live, but as soon as he started talking about the New World Order, they cut the feed.
01:49:25.000There were several reports that his double, or Hitler himself, was secreted away to Argentina after the war had ended, that he didn't actually die.
01:49:34.000And that was in the National Security Archive, so that's what I read about that.
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01:52:47.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation.
01:52:57.000It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
01:53:02.000Crashing through the lies of disinformation.
01:53:05.000You better believe it's the Alex Jones Radio Program.
01:53:07.000This is Erskine sitting in for the one and only Alex Jones, along with my guest, Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.
01:53:18.000As always, let me give out some websites.
01:53:21.000www.infowars.com www.prisonplanet.com where you can get a copy of American Dictators the staged election of 2004 also police states 1, 2, and 3 those videos have come to fruition they're coming in very quickly and Matrix of Evil plus Paul Joseph Watson's amazing book Order Out of Chaos and one of the things that I noticed
01:53:48.000We're talking about what's happening with the state and talking about videos such as the Police State 1, 2, and 3 that Alex has put out.
01:53:59.000They've got a couple of reasons that they're doing these holding pins.
01:54:04.000Number two, you get people used to seeing a de facto militarization of the nation's cities with these security sweeps, holding pins, tanks, helicopter gunships, the whole thing.
01:54:15.000Matter of fact, they're even using the Fuji blimp overhead there.
01:54:25.000That is a very alarming development and Al was asking you about doubles.
01:54:32.000You explained that Hitler had a double that may have made it to Argentina.
01:54:36.000Saddam, I think, had 19 different doubles.
01:54:38.000I'm looking at pictures and other people have looked at pictures of President Bush with the Widow's Peak, without the Widow's Peak.
01:54:45.000It looks to me like he's using doubles with big ears, without big ears.
01:54:50.000Looks to me like they have doubles of President Bush.
01:54:53.000Or am I being too conspiratorial, Paul?
01:54:56.000I don't know about President Bush, but certainly we know that Saddam had several doubles before the war in Iraq started.
01:55:02.000Many people have pointed out that when he was captured, his beard had grown several inches within the space of a few months, which was impossible.
01:55:11.000His hair was dyed jet black, so he was supposed to be in this hole, and yet he had a plentiful supply of hair dye.
01:55:19.000People have looked at the photographs You know, during the trial, which took place back in July, and there's a gap in his teeth, which the Saddam that was captured didn't have.
01:55:30.000We had on the day the war started in Iraq, photos of Saddam.
01:55:34.000Most of you listeners will remember wearing the thick spectacles, didn't look like Saddam.
01:55:39.000We had this skinny Saddam doing a walkabout around Baghdad in the middle of the war in April.
01:55:46.000So I mean, who knows how many Sadams there are?
01:55:48.000I mean, we've had the reports that Sadam, whichever Sadam it is, has cancer and will die within two years.
01:55:54.000So whether they want to kill him off that way and not have him blow the whistle on the fact that he was armed, you know, by people like Donald Rumsfeld back in the early 80s, Um, or whether they will keep him alive with one of his doubles, who knows?
01:56:06.000I mean, the choice is up to them, but definitely Saddam.
01:59:59.000Is that ever covered by Mr. Watson and his book?
02:00:04.000Tell her a little couple things about it.
02:00:06.000Well yeah, he ran the majority of Nazi steel production.
02:00:09.000And I mean, the documents have come out on that.
02:00:11.000Associated Press have done big articles on it.
02:00:14.000Um, there was a guy in the New Hampshire Gazette who did a big piece on it, and then afterwards he was harassed by the Secret Service.
02:00:21.000So I mean, they don't want this kind of thing to get out.
02:00:24.000I mean, just go to PrisonPlanet.com, go to the search engine, type in, um, Bush Nazi Links, and you'll get a bunch of articles which pop up explaining all that.
02:00:34.000Okay, now what does, um, What does GW have to do with Eli Lilly?
02:00:38.000I don't know, I haven't looked into that.
02:00:43.000Is he part owner of it, or does he own Eli Lilly?
02:00:47.000I've heard that he owns a sizable amount of stock in that, so they're very happy when the Prozac sales are going up.
02:01:58.000Well, yeah, you get hypocrisy on both sides of the equation.
02:02:00.000I mean, left-wingers will scream and bleat all day about babies dying in Iraq, which is right, but then they'll support abortion at home, in the light of the new evidence which proves that babies can walk in the womb, smile, laugh at 12 weeks old, and yet the law here in Britain is that Terminations can occur anything up to 24 weeks.
02:02:22.000I'm against the death penalty for the very reasons that I've outlined before, which is you don't want to give a corrupt government that kind of power, because they will abuse it.
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02:08:14.000When we're looking at what's going on and you're seeing coverage for an entire week of the Democratic Convention, coverage for the entire week of the Republican Convention, you're watching the debates coming up.
02:08:47.000Well, most people don't realize that we have a two-party system in America, not because people have demanded it, but because the Republicans and Democrats have legislated it.
02:08:57.000They have ballot access laws in virtually every state that make it relatively easy for a Democrat or Republican to get on the ballot, but very difficult for a third-party candidate.
02:09:08.000For example, A Republican or Democrat might have to pay a $100 filing fee and supply a hundred signatures.
02:09:16.000A third party candidate might have to pay a $10,000 filing fee and provide a thousand or ten thousand signatures.
02:09:26.000And of course the campaign finance laws are designed to keep the incumbents in.
02:09:30.000So there is a huge legislative hurdle.
02:09:33.000When I ran in In 2000, I raised two and a half million dollars, but a large part of that had to go just for ballot access to get on the ballot in 50 states, so that money was not available to advertise and tell people that there was a better life available without an income tax, without being roped into Social Security, without a drug war, without a foreign policy that makes enemies all around the world, that we could have a peaceful America, we could have an America
02:10:02.000Like the Founding Fathers wanted, an America of Liberty, and pardon me for going on so long.
02:10:07.000No, no, for God's sake, you want to make your voice heard in America, you want to talk about what's going on in America, and you aren't allowed to in America.
02:10:16.000It's certainly become a joke, because when you're reading the Constitution, there's nothing in the Constitution about two parties.
02:10:25.000Let's go to Brian in Virginia, because he's been holding on a while, and he may have a question for you, Harry.
02:11:57.000Well, you look at the families involved, and they're usually the families you consider the Illuminati.
02:12:03.000And I don't know what their place is and the whole thing.
02:12:06.000I know I was raised one, and I know that I had the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.
02:12:15.000I know the theocratic language, and it seems kind of ominous.
02:12:20.000You know, I know they're sincere about their beliefs, but I think, of course, we all know they've been hoodwinked.
02:12:29.000Those are just some things I wouldn't mind someone looking into.
02:12:32.000Well, one of the things that we've talked about on my program has been some of the new translations of the Bible which are coming out of Oxford University Press in London, which is controlled by the Rothschilds.
02:13:07.000Now I know, now I think I've met almost everyone who voted for me.
02:13:14.000Oh, it is a sad state of affairs I'm calling because I had to go to court this morning to appeal a denial of my request And I have been in the military for 26 years now.
02:13:33.000And I have to know how to utilize weapons.
02:13:37.000But I was denied because the police chief said that I was deemed unsuitable.
02:13:44.000And he noted that, well, my husband is a highly decorated vet.
02:13:50.000He participated in Special Ops Vietnam.
02:13:55.000And they said that in this proceeding, they kept noting my husband's extraordinary record.
02:14:07.000So if you're a veteran, and if you have, if you're highly decorated, you are a threat now.
02:14:14.000And you should not be able to have a firearm.
02:14:17.000You should not be able to participate in any portion of the Bill of Rights, apparently.
02:14:24.000Well, Harry, you know one of the things that worried me is that they had these people who were pilots, and most of them came out of the military.
02:15:14.000He's earned the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, wounded three times.
02:15:18.000One of his wounds is a bayonet in the stomach.
02:15:21.000And he was recommended for the Medal of Honor because of what he did.
02:15:27.000And he saved lives in some of the operations he did, you know.
02:15:32.000I'm not saying he never did anything bad while he was over there, but because the police department sees him as some kind of a threat, they're holding it against me now.
02:15:45.000Yes, and of course the politicians are trying as hard as they can these days to latch themselves onto the military and to people like your husband and making such a big thing about the glorious service that they provided to the country but of course at the local level any police chief has the power to do this and Paul Joseph Watson in the last segment made a very very important point when he was talking about the death penalty he said he didn't want
02:16:14.000The corrupt government to have that power because the power would eventually be abused and that's the most important point it isn't the abuse of power that's the problem it is the power to abuse and the power is in the hands of the local police chiefs to grant or deny those permits The power is in the hands of the President to use the military for his purposes, for his political power.
02:16:43.000And if that power is there, it's going to be abused eventually.
02:16:47.000So when you think you're handing power to a good person, To do a good deed in a good government, remember that that power is still going to be there when a bad person gets elected and is ready to do a bad deed for a bad government.
02:17:02.000So we never want to give to the local government, the state government, or the federal government the power to abuse because eventually it will be abused and your story is a perfect example of that.
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02:21:58.000It's the Alex Jones Show on GCN Radio Network.
02:22:01.000This is Erskine sitting in today and tomorrow for Alex Jones.
02:22:05.000Be sure and pick up a copy of Alex's videos.
02:22:10.000The PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com, The American Dictators, The Staged Election of 2004 is one of the videos available, and the person who did the video is with us right now, Alex Jones, direct from his interview that he got out on C-SPAN, as Sharon told us, at the very first hour.
02:22:37.000Despite the fact that the 9-11 Truth Group has a permit to be here, I was just threatened with arrest and had to get myself out of that and had to basically threaten to sue them to have them leave me alone.
02:22:48.000And as I'm speaking, you've got the cameras rolling just to document everything in case they try something.
02:22:52.000I've almost been arrested three times every day anywhere in the city videotaping anything.
02:23:01.000And what I'll do is, I guess the last 20 minutes of the program, I'm going to call in and get everybody an update on what's happened in the last day.
02:23:07.000There is just so much here that we're surrounded by police and they're coming in with plastic handcuffs.
02:23:12.000What they'll do is just encircle peaceful crowds with this orange netting and then round everybody up and arrest them.
02:23:18.000There's over 2,000 people that they put in a camp, Pier 57, an old condemned bus terminal where they parked the buses.
02:23:24.000It's a giant facility out over the Hudson River.
02:23:26.000It's being called Guantanamo on the Hudson.
02:23:30.000Erskine, we were threatened with arrest there as well.
02:23:33.000We've had them grab cameras and smash them right in front of us.
02:23:37.000They were so stupid they didn't know our other camera was rolling getting this.
02:24:11.000i've run into probably five hundred six hundred people now that are fans of the radio show and aware of the new world order i'd know they were this big in new york and just god bless everybody god bless those out there listening we are going to prevail we are never going to stop fighting and this is just totally and completely insane uh...
02:24:27.000to be threatened with arrest at least three times a day that one of our cameras taken that's right in front of us and have the home whipped out of it just disgusting behavior has nothing to do with terrorism i have Hundreds of the people that have been arrested are literally foreign tourists, old ladies, They will just block off a whole street in a quote, authorized protest, come in with this orange netting, round everybody up.
02:24:50.000Now they will ride horses into people, they will ride mopeds into people to cause crises.
02:24:54.000Many of the anarchists work for them, have been threatening us.
02:24:56.000There's just a few hundred anarchists that are used to create crises.
02:24:59.000The march on Sunday had over 300,000 people in it.
02:25:02.000There have been huge protests everywhere.
02:25:04.000The news is totally distorting all of this, Erskine.
02:25:08.000It's not on CNN, it's not on NBC, ABC, CBS, and the estimates of the crowd is anywhere from 250,000 to 500,000, but it is covered by the foreign press.
02:25:19.000We're not allowed to see it ourselves.
02:25:21.000Are we in New York City, Police State 2004?
02:25:52.000And, uh, right now they were getting the cuffs out about to arrest me here at a, uh, march that actually has a permit in front of Ground Zero.
02:26:00.000We're here talking about who was behind 9-11.
02:26:02.000And I have them, you know, threaten to arrest me again, saying, saying that my press pass was improper, as if I even need a press pass to be here.
02:26:12.000And it sickens me to see America being turned into this, but it's only going to get worse and worse and worse because of what these scoundrels have done.
02:26:20.000The globalists have come back to the scene of the crime.
02:26:22.000They have come back to the scene of what they did on 9-11.
02:26:24.000And we are going to continue to stand up against them.
02:26:26.000And last time I got live on C-SPAN, kind of guerrilla information warfare tactic, and got the truth out.
02:26:32.000Erskine, you've obviously already heard about that.
02:26:37.000And you've got 50%, according to Zogby Poll, of the New Yorkers are aware that the Let me give folks the actual Zogby poll.
02:26:46.000about it 50% according to dog people you are in an area where the people know and they understand is this getting out on local TV in New York let me get folks the actual Zogby book 39% in New York City I finally got a copy of it 49% 49% in New York City believe it was government prior knowledge or involvement.
02:27:08.000In New York State itself, 41% believe that.
02:27:12.000And 68% want Eliot Spitzer to do an independent investigation and do not believe in the 9-11 whitewash commission appointed by George W. New World Order liberal Bush.
02:27:21.000We'll be right back with Alex Jones' live report from New York and Harry Brown and Paul Joseph Watson who are also going to be talking with Alex right after these words.
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02:31:03.000place, this is the Alex Jones program, where you're going to understand what's going on for real in New York and the poll results.
02:31:18.000May 26th, Toronto Star reported a national poll showed that 63, 63% of Canadians are convinced that U.S.
02:31:26.000leaders had prior knowledge of the attacks and yet declined to act.
02:31:30.00066% of New Yorkers According to the Zogby Poll just released August 30th, call for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or New York's Attorney General.
02:31:43.000You've got 49.3% of New York residents and 41% of the New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001.
02:32:35.000Again, I'm here at Ground Zero, surrounded by survivors of 9-11, people who were here, people... I've talked to a bunch of people who were there, firefighters saying, get back.
02:33:01.000it's disgusting as sort of what you talk to are aware of what's happening but as you said they cannot hide this forever all she just read that the canadian ball with sixty-plus percent they get to pick up most new yorkers they get to pick up it is unbelievable our skin and just to see this country going to hell and that is very very painful Now, folks, here is a survivor, a lady who worked in the center.
02:33:26.000And ma'am, can you tell us your name and why you're out here handing out information, deception dollars and the 9-11 truth movement pamphlets to people?
02:33:35.000Can you tell the listeners, just in a nutshell, what most of your workers are thinking and some of the key things that you think are cover-ups involving 9-11?
02:33:43.000Well, at a minimum, that 7 World Trade, absolutely.
02:33:49.000I have worked and lived in New York for more than 20 years and happen to have been working in the downtown area, actually.
02:33:54.000I was working in the World Financial Center complex on the day of September 11th.
02:34:00.000I was in the building during the night before.
02:34:01.000I'm a member of a professional association on the 44th floor of 1 World Trade.
02:34:05.000I supervise an office in One World Trade back in the mid-eighties.
02:34:08.000What are some of the key points you told me about earlier?
02:34:10.000Some of the key points are that there were explosives up through Six World Trade that I heard before Ida Tower came down.
02:34:16.000Southern World Trade, we knew was not in bad condition.
02:34:19.000And later on in the day on live radio, where one of our local live reporters was downtown with New York Public Radio, he was saying that the building wasn't in bad condition, but they were talking about demolishing it.
02:34:31.000And, you know, why would you demolish a building in perfectly good condition?
02:34:33.000But meanwhile, that building came down lickety-split.
02:34:37.000It came down within moments after that.
02:34:38.000And we already knew that, but now we have Larry Silverstein saying it on PBS.
02:34:42.000Let me get another quick comment from another lady, then I'm going to come back to you.
02:35:00.000I'm Arlene Rubin, and they said over and over again that from the base of the building and from the mid-floors that explosives were bringing down the World Trade Center to run for your life.
02:35:43.000I mean, if I can jump in, I'd just ask Alex.
02:35:45.000I mean, we've had reports about police arresting medics so that, you know, the handcuffed and beaten protesters couldn't get treatment.
02:35:52.000All kinds of... We've got video, Paul, we've got video of them with giant orange construction fences rounding up peaceful Well, yeah, and those articles have been in the New York Daily News.
02:36:05.000There's a thousand of them just in the last two days in this camp down here.
02:36:08.000We call it Guantanamo and the Hudson, this giant complex.
02:36:11.000They just live in motor oil on the ground, an old bus terminal, literally with barbed wire fences and barbed wire inside the description, just like in my film The Takeover with the barbed wire inside the 747 hangar in Austin, Texas.
02:37:11.000They will usher a crowd of a few thousand people.
02:37:13.000There's dozens of small protests going on spontaneously everywhere.
02:37:16.000They will usher them down a few streets, tell them, go this way, go that way, come with us.
02:37:21.000Then they get people herded into a spot.
02:37:23.000Then the anarchists do something and then waiting cops come running out of parking garages or waiting buses to beat the living daylights out of them.
02:39:28.000What's going on over there? - It's pretty crazy.
02:39:31.000I mean, everywhere we're going, there's a group gathering around Alex, and it's pretty crazy, because the police really don't know what to make of him.
02:40:40.000And he took us out at night to show us the Statue of Liberty.
02:40:43.000And we had the Homeland Security boats come up to us.
02:40:46.000They're just like out of the scene apocalypse now.
02:40:49.000Where the boats come up and they do the search on you.
02:40:53.000And this is funny, because the guy, you know, they kind of play a game of intimidation with him, but after we were okay with him, he just took off in one direction, and the boats like gave chase to us.
02:41:03.000And this guy just kind of plays the game, and he just hit the throttle full blast.
02:41:07.000We watched this little flashing cherry light disappear over the horizon.
02:41:13.000Yeah, they had .50 caliber machine guns mounted on the front of these Homeland Security boats, Coast Guard boats.
02:41:18.000And then we had to take a subway back, because we didn't get a taxi cab, and we had a situation where We saw this really sad scene with this old lady.
02:41:36.000She was asleep, so John Stanton, our gate, got out of the subway for a second, I think for like a $5 or $10 bill, inside of her purse, and we videotaped us doing it, and the police jumped out and grabbed Alex's camera.
02:42:33.000But I still, you know, you're aware of them.
02:42:36.000But here, after just four or five days, I've noticed myself just walking past the 50 to 100 police, and it's like you don't even know that they're there anymore.
02:42:46.000I was sitting like a police friend at dinner the other night.
02:42:52.000They all had like big machine guns, and I'm sitting there talking about how I needed to buy a police scanner so I could keep up with it all, because I was like not even paying attention to them.
02:42:59.000I'm so numb to the fact that they're all surrounding me.
02:43:02.000Kevin, you also talked about your condition to be going out of your past.
02:43:12.000Although, you know, the sad thing is a lot of the cops, probably as people, they're probably not bad people as people.
02:43:17.000Or even, you know, I spent a lot of time in Los Angeles, and I think the LAPD, they have like a meaner mentality.
02:43:24.000And when you get these guys off separately by themselves, they all seem to be like nice people, but it's definitely like a group thing, for sure, all together.
02:43:33.000And when you're out there on the street, they just kind of have this invincible attitude.
02:43:37.000You know, when they get mad at you, they ratchet up.
02:43:40.000If they have a reason to come after you, you can be the most reasonable, normal person, and they'll just start screaming in your face.
02:44:34.000Yeah, I'll just jump in there and ask Kevin.
02:44:36.000We've had reports which were carried in the daily news about plain-clothed police officers randomly plowing mopeds into giant groups of people.
02:44:46.000Have you seen any examples of that take place?
02:44:49.000I just, all I saw was on the news and just probably the same story you've seen, you know.
02:44:55.000And, you know, basically, anyways, here's Alex, it was great talking to you guys.
02:45:21.000You are breaking a story that other people aren't getting unless they watch C-SPAN.
02:45:27.000Let me pose this question to Harry Brown and Paul Watson.
02:45:31.000In America, is it proper that we are on major city streets, not even around secure facilities, and people run up and scream, even with press passes, which we shouldn't even have to have, threatening to arrest us for videotaping?
02:45:43.000It's all color of law, and that's just part of this process of people being afraid to even tape.
02:45:48.000Do you guys have any comments about that?
02:45:51.000Well, while you've been talking I've been surfing the net here and CNN has a story on the protesters down on the bottom of another story and they say that 1,700 have been arrested and they talk about the complaints about the conditions of those prisoners but I didn't find anything on the Fox News site and I find very little on the CBS site and that's as far as I've gotten so far.
02:46:19.000Well, it's normally 15 to 2,000 at any one time in the camp.
02:46:23.000They're normally there about 25 hours on average to spend on the local news.
02:46:35.000The cops don't even want to work in there.
02:46:36.000Their union's complaining, and it's not even set up to be a jail.
02:46:39.000They have them just caged up behind barbed wire inside a 70-year-old bus terminal with literally an inch of grime and oil and chemicals on the ground, Harry.
02:47:08.000Everywhere I drove all over the city, 5,000 here, 10,000 there, 100,000 here, 20,000 there.
02:47:12.000And then now, throughout the week, basically, there's just protesters everywhere.
02:47:17.000Any street you go up, I've been all over the city, people with signs everywhere.
02:47:20.000You'll see we've got 10,000 here, 5,000 there, 200 here.
02:47:21.000here five thousand there two hundred here uh...
02:47:24.000it changes pictures everywhere and and but the cabbies i've talked to they say between fifty and ninety percent of people they've got to now get i had a number of hated the r_n_c_ is here There's troops, guys.
02:48:04.000Paul, you have a comment or you want to ask Alex a question?
02:48:09.000Yeah, have you seen any examples of photographers and journalists being arrested?
02:48:14.000Because there was an article in the New York Daily News about how filmmakers who were actually filming a movie about protests were not involved in the protests.
02:48:22.000Alex is going back with that right after these words.
02:48:26.000Filmmakers, are they being arrested right after these words?
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02:51:58.0003,000 delegates, 300,000 protesters in a scene that sounds more like the description of chaos reminiscent of Kirk Russell's escape from New York.
02:52:09.000It's Alex Jones live from New York, where he is at ground zero.
02:52:15.000And the question for Alex from Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos, and we know what their order is going to be, Yes, what Paul brought up is totally accurate.
02:52:26.000people like this, are they being hassled?
02:52:29.000And what I'm gathering from you, Alex, it's like a fisherman just throwing a net out and gathering whatever they bring in, any kind of fish they can bring in.
02:52:48.000They grab everybody and put them in paddy wagons.
02:52:51.000And then I've got these young kids who are actually stirring up trouble, going, I don't know why, but a police captain and I actually did something and spit on a delegate's car.
02:52:59.000Nothing happened to me, but then they arrest everybody and they told me I could go free.
02:53:01.000I mean, we have our own videotape saying that.
02:53:04.000So you also have useful idiots out doing bad things, and the cops just let them go.
02:53:10.000And I just had another person walk over to me and go, oh yeah, my family's Navy SEAL, and they called us on September 10th and said they'll go to the World Trade Center tomorrow.
02:53:18.000I mean, it's just every five minutes somebody walks over and tells me a new story like this.
02:53:23.000Every day I've been out here at Ground Zero, it's just incredible.
02:53:27.000These are all New Yorkers who just work right around here.
02:53:30.000And people just sit there screaming at the police telling them they know it's the New World Order.
02:53:57.000Well, I've been looking at the web, as I said, while you folks have been talking, and I just don't find any indication in the news that there has been any violence there at all.
02:54:08.000In fact, there are specific statements that there has been no violence at all, and some A woman with the New York Civil Liberties Union said that she acknowledged that the police had been very gentle.
02:54:21.000So, it's not really getting into the news, that's for sure.
02:54:50.000Well yeah, I think there's been a couple of reports here on British television which have stories about it.
02:54:55.000But the major news line that I've been following is the New York Indy Media news line which carries up to the minute updates on exactly what's going down and they were particularly evident on Tuesday night when there was a lot of trouble.
02:55:09.000So if Listeners, stay focused on the PrisonPlanet.com website tonight.
02:55:14.000As I would expect with Bush giving his speech, if there was any real provocative action it would occur tonight, then people keep tuned in to the website.
02:55:23.000I will provide them, you know, with any updates as they come in.
02:55:27.000So they've got a train all sitting to get Spirit Bush off of Manhattan and out of New York City.
02:55:36.000All sitting down below a special train.
02:55:39.000This is something when our leaders have to go by.
02:55:43.000Underground trains and we've got this type of a situation.