As we accelerate towards the three-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on Lower Manhattan, Alex Jones and his co-host, Dr. Breeding, discuss the Bush administration's refusal to arm airline pilots and the conspiracy theories that the United States government was behind the attacks. Also, a car bomb near the U.S. Embassy in Indonesia kills 7, and a new ad takes aim at Bush's National Guard service.
00:00:41.000Already Thursday, the ninth day of September 2004, as we accelerate towards the three-year anniversary of the military-industrial complex New World Ordered Attacks on Lower Manhattan.
00:01:37.000Also, another article here, Second Amendment Activists, and it says, uh, no, East Lons in the United States says school gun ban leaves nation vulnerable to Russian-type tragedy.
00:01:54.000Why do you think George Bush won't arm the airline pilots?
00:01:58.000They can let them fly around in a $80 million, $50 million machine, with hundreds of people on board, with hundreds of switches, most of them former military, but they can't be armed.
00:02:12.000I know the NRA told you Bush did arm the pilots, which is not true.
00:02:16.000He blocked it until it was an outrage so loud that even Democrats joined in.
00:02:21.000And that's right, even Dianne Feinstein said, yeah, go ahead and arm the pilots.
00:02:42.000The intelligence report put out by the Southern Poverty Law Center Talks about evil conspiracy theorists that the government was behind 9-11.
00:02:50.000You mean like the Zogby Poll and half of New Yorkers?
00:03:34.000this is the art of destruction and diversion so you're welcome to call in and discuss that as well New ad takes aim at Bush's National Guard Service, and yeah, Bush has lied about it, and yeah, all the documents have come out, and yeah, he was AWOL for over a year, and yeah, he's a co-kid, and yeah, it's all true, and that's all part of being conservative, folks.
00:03:56.000Also, Dr. Dennis Cuddy weighs in on this forced Mental Health Screening.
00:04:01.000He says Mental Health and World Citizenship.
00:04:04.000Same stuff is going on in Europe and England.
00:04:06.000This is all part of the new Big Brother Control System.
00:04:11.000So we'll be covering it all after this quick break.
00:04:15.000The toll-free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
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00:09:16.000We've read the British Medical Association's comments on it, calling it a brave new world.
00:09:22.000Every child in the country, public or private, will be forcibly, psychologically tested according to new guidelines, hundreds of new mental illnesses, forcibly drugged.
00:09:47.000The same folks that cheered Arnold, who's for open borders, abortion on demand, who is for, you know, the gay marriage, the same guy who is for all this gun control, and just involved in Enron, so he saves you from Enron.
00:10:03.000You just cheer him, and you love him, and you don't let the facts get in the way.
00:10:08.000And it says, Representative Ron Paul, Republican Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that will remove from any appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.
00:10:25.000I'm looking at the Chicago Tribune here.
00:10:27.000We first reported on this a month ago, but now it's in the Chicago Tribune.
00:10:31.000Where, when you go into the hospital to have your baby, they send in social workers, whether you're rich, poor, black, white, old, young, and force you to have psychological testing, and the guidelines have been written by Eli Lilly and others, a consortium, right here in Texas, in a pilot program that started in the early 1990s, right here in Austin.
00:10:56.000This new program will massively fund it, make it mandatory in all 50.
00:11:01.000The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul Foundation Liberty Committee.
00:11:10.000The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screenings for every child in America, including preschool children.
00:11:19.000That's right, everyone will get a CPS visit.
00:11:22.000And the industry is now working to convince Congress as well.
00:11:27.000And it says the New Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only for children, but eventually for every American.
00:11:34.000A new law about to pass the state level.
00:11:36.000The initiative came out of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.
00:11:41.000But the original organization was founded in 1992 in Austin, Texas.
00:11:47.000Critics of the plan say it is a thinly-veiled attempt, it's not thinly-veiled, by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and anti-psychotics medication and puts government in areas of America's lives where it does not belong.
00:12:00.000Writes Snyder, the real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learn, tragically, with Ritalin even when parents refuse.
00:12:11.000Now, again, The guidelines were admittedly written by a consortium of eight drug companies led by Eli Lilly.
00:12:23.000And all the drugs they recommend in it just so happen to be all the new expensive ones that are $10 a pill.
00:13:14.000And when I was in New York, it was on News 1, it was on the radio, we even went there.
00:13:18.000Bellevue, the famous mental institution in New York, huge building, they took the leaders of the protests to the mental institution, hundreds of them.
00:13:28.000They would arrest you at permanent protest.
00:13:30.000You heard the American Spectator reporter yesterday.
00:13:32.000A conservative at a permanent protest in a suit and tie with congressional passes.
00:13:46.000Remember three years ago, I had that honor roll student on from Temple University, who was even a Bill Clinton staffer, but was conservative, and they had the school play, Corpus Christi, where Christ is a homosexual prostitute, and Christians were offended, so they got their own time, their own stage, they had their own rally against it, and school officials suddenly cancelled it and said, Called him in with the security guards and the Dean said, uh, drop your request for this.
00:14:27.000Folks, I can't tell you how many listeners have given police copies of my videos, shown it at their college, and who are arrested and put in mental institutions.
00:14:54.000They've arrested tens of thousands of Falun Gong, just these peaceful Buddhists in China, and they put them in mental institutions.
00:15:02.000The top Chinese scientist who worked for the government, who said that the Chinese government was covering up the SARS.
00:15:11.000They put him in for six months and released him, quote, after he'd been re-educated.
00:15:15.000They admitted they brainwashed him, drugged him, tortured him.
00:15:18.000He was all ready to say he was sorry afterwards.
00:15:21.000Dr. Charles T. Sell, Army doctor, Army dentist, hired at Waco to identify, he was there on day 51, Quote, because there was going to be a fire, they told him, and they burned it down and killed the people.
00:15:35.000And, uh, he talked about it, and the FBI had dropped by and said, uh, well, we heard you're threatening people, which he didn't do.
00:15:43.000And, uh, seven years later, he's in solitary confinement under forced drugging, quote, getting him ready for trial for Medicaid fraud, which would, the maximum sentence was one year in jail.
00:16:34.000This is a tyrannical plutocracy that is predatory.
00:16:41.000And the globalists, the small group of families that own things, are threatened by free market.
00:16:47.000They're threatened by you owning businesses and companies.
00:16:49.000But they own the prisons, they own the mental health systems, they own Big Pharma, they own the military-industrial complex, they own the media, and now they're shifting over and they're going to force you all into their systems.
00:17:04.000And as more and more jobs are lost, as the economy implodes under the free trade area of the Americas and the Pan-American Union that goes into law January 1st, the average person knows nothing about it.
00:17:15.000Under that, as more and more people lose their jobs, it's going to pressurize people.
00:17:19.000Now all the big new majors at universities are Homeland Security.
00:17:34.000Into security and law enforcement and criminology and psychology and law.
00:17:40.000And so the economy, now that we have gone to this post-industrial phase, yeah, it's going to be a service economy, a police-state grid.
00:17:48.000And so people are going to want jobs, and so half of society, like a Kurt Vonnegut book, a dystopic novel, half of the population are going to be controllers, or minions of the controllers, and the other half are going to be prisoners.
00:19:13.000Now they know where their children's future lies if they don't stand up and join us in liberty and freedom and transparency and decency and honor!
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00:24:18.000You know, I love the Mark Twain quote about how in the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him.
00:24:30.000Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
00:24:33.000And that's really what it all boils down to.
00:24:36.000It was hard to get on the air on the morning of 9-11 and say that the Globalists had carried it out.
00:24:43.000It was hard to get on air and say, don't give money to the Red Cross and United Way, it goes to gun control groups on the morning of 9-11.
00:24:50.000Now of course, if that all came out and turned out to be true, because I already knew what they'd done in the past, in Oklahoma City and other cases, It was hard to get on the air and tell you that George Bush isn't a conservative.
00:25:03.000It's hard to get on the air and talk about how our world leaders are devil worshippers, but we have the facts and now it's even mainstream news.
00:25:11.000It's hard to tell the truth sometimes, but long term it's much worse to lie to yourself, to lie to your family, and to be a coward.
00:25:20.000When you're a coward, people push you around.
00:25:24.000When you're a timid individual, you get shoved to the back.
00:25:31.000And, you know, the Bible says the meek inherit the earth.
00:25:35.000But you look at that translation, I've talked to a lot of pastors, you look at the Greek, it means really those that aren't prideful.
00:25:42.000The Bible's full of examples of prophets and leaders boldly standing up against evil.
00:27:29.000I got shot in the head and they intitialized me and they've intitialized me 14 times and I have a list up here of side effects with just one medication alone.
00:27:38.000Everything from vomiting to drowsiness to loss of appetite, nervousness, sleeplessness, headache, nausea, constipation, sensitivity to light.
00:27:48.000In other words, you're just a vegetable and psychiatrists originate from Sigmund Freud and German Nazi.
00:27:59.000And we'll be getting into how every American will sit down twice a year and be screened by government psychiatrists, publicly paid for by the big drug companies.
00:28:14.000Um, the reason I'm calling is that I had to go up against my police chief in court the other day because he had denied my, uh, permit to carry a firearm.
00:29:03.000It's the damned if you do, damned if you don't.
00:29:05.000Oh, you didn't see the documents right before Bill Clinton left?
00:29:08.000They transferred all records on veterans into the mental health system of Health and Human Services and into the NICS system and they're now denying veterans with no criminal record or mental record their capacity to buy firearms?
00:29:24.000Stay there man, because I'm fully aware of this.
00:29:26.000I want you to tell us the name of your police chief where you live and how he told you, because your husband has an extensive war record.
00:29:33.000You can't have a gun here in this new free country.
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00:34:33.000The interesting thing about this hearing is that I approached the bench with my attorney and he was questioning, my attorney was questioning the police chief before the judge and myself and he was caught lying blatantly at least three times by my attorney.
00:34:54.000He stated that sometime in 1999, and he could not identify the date or anything, he said that He had attended a mental health facility for an evaluation.
00:35:51.000But at that point, they change the law Where if I don't have a concealed carry, I can't even buy a handgun in a gun shop and drive it home.
00:36:03.000Rifles you can still have in your car, shotguns loaded, hidden in plain view, whatever.
00:36:08.000And so what they do nationwide is, they take a right and turn it into a privilege.
00:36:13.000And 30, 40 years ago, depending on what area of the East, or Illinois, like Chicago, other big cities and states, They said, don't worry, you can still own a gun, just come get a permit, it's a little $20 fee or $5 fee.
00:36:27.000People said, okay, I'm law-abiding, I'll do that.
00:36:31.000So liquor store owners and 7-Eleven owners and, you know, owners of roller rinks, whatever, car dealerships, banks, they all went and they got guns.
00:36:43.000Or gun permits for guns they already had.
00:36:45.000Then they started raising the price, saying, oh, there's a class you gotta take every ten years to have it.
00:36:58.000Until areas like New York, literally, the thousands of people that have got gun permits are known mobsters, Hollywood people.
00:37:06.000Anyone who gives, you know, $10,000, $20,000 to the sheriff, reelection campaign, or to the mayor, they get a permit, even if they're felons.
00:37:27.000And now, before the break, last segment, you also said that he said because your husband has an extensive war record.
00:37:34.000Can you tell us exactly what your would-be ruler said?
00:37:39.000Well, he stated before the judge, he said Um, Mrs. Dunn's husband has a very extensive war record and, you know, he, um, was involved in, um, black operations, blah blah blah.
00:38:00.000For all the folks doing black operations right now, secret ops in the U.S.
00:38:03.000and overseas, see, this is going to happen to you.
00:38:09.00087,000 in the first transfer of files, then it was even more before Bill Clinton left office, then Bush continued it, of veterans, especially special forces, went into a huge mental health and the NICS database And people that didn't know in Vietnam or Gulf War who collapsed of heat exhaustion or whatever, you didn't know that when you were in the infirmary that the psychiatrist and doctors signed off that you had post-traumatic stress.
00:38:37.000Then grandpas go to buy their 15-year-old grandson's .22 rifles and are told, sorry, NICS says you have a problem.
00:38:45.000They write letters and find out they're listed as mentally ill.
00:38:49.000And now there's hundreds of new mental illness designations, and they're going to test all the children, all the adults in the new Freedom Initiative, and they're going to say we're all mentally ill and we can't own guns.
00:38:59.000So again, if they can't get you in the welfare system under their control, they can't get you in the criminal justice system, Yeah, so I am not going to get an answer on this for about a week.
00:39:18.000He believes it went well only because he did catch this police chief, this poor police chief, And lied at least three times.
00:39:25.000Yeah, you need to bring the case back up and it need be sue the police chief for false statements, defamation of character and say show where I've been in the mental institution.
00:40:02.000And after all that, and then, you know, another eight hundred bucks for the appeal to pay a lawyer and all this stuff.
00:40:14.000And the interesting thing is, I was watching the judge's face and As many times as this police chief was caught outright lying, he did not bat an eye.
00:40:26.000Well, we talked to the American Spectator writer, a conservative, who was arrested for no reason in New York last week.
00:40:32.000I was there as he was being arrested, we learned yesterday.
00:41:26.000Look, you can have airline pilots, the most skilled people, frankly, out there of any industry, most of them former fighter pilots, bomber pilots, You know, no criminal record.
00:42:36.000Ron in New York, you're on the air, go ahead.
00:42:38.000Hi Alex, that was an interesting subject your last caller brought up.
00:42:42.000The fact of the matter is, and I've called you about this before, is there have always been, in their aggressive attempts to try and define things as an adjudication of mental defect, that are not.
00:42:53.000If someone goes out and seeks some psychiatric treatment for a problem, minor depression and so forth, That is not an adjudication of mental defect, yet they're trying to equate that to an adjudication.
00:43:04.000And let me add this, the media, the culture, the sitcoms, the dramas...
00:43:08.000You know, the Sopranos, they all promote going to the shrink, going to the psychologist, where everybody thinks it's the cool thing to do.
00:43:15.000Meanwhile, they're setting it up where you lose all your rights if you do it.
00:43:19.000It will destroy your civil liberties, but the worst part about it is the statutes read, at least the federal statutes.
00:43:27.000An adjudication is a very specific, very formal, very defined process.
00:43:33.000Even under the regulations of something like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, there are still certain minimums that have to occur, but they're not even... they're getting so out of hand with it, that what they're trying to do is just say, you know, someone goes to a mental health provider for some treatment, some minor treatment.
00:43:53.000But sir, Donna didn't even go to anybody, he just made it up.
00:43:57.000Yeah, well sure, the guy is an absolute out and out liar, obviously, from what she said, or trying to hold, this is another strange thing, trying to hold her husband, or transmute her husband's honorable military service into something negative, and I really don't know how that's germane to Donna in any event.
00:44:13.000Donna's going for the permit, not her husband, but they do that here where I live, too, in New York.
00:44:18.000Um, what they'll do, The license-issuing officer in this agency will deprive you of the license if you are involved in civil litigation, whether as plaintiff or defendant.
00:44:29.000Now that has no relevance to anything if you're suing somebody because you tripped on a sidewalk or you're getting sued because somebody tripped on a sidewalk in front of your house.
00:44:37.000They are denying people who have diabetes.
00:45:34.000If you want outlaw liquor, outlaw liquor, but it's lawful.
00:45:38.000So long as he doesn't indicate that he drinks and drives, or he drives while he's intoxicated, I don't know... Oh, no, the hospital admits the guy said he didn't drink and drive.
00:45:51.000If you're, uh, you know, the 13 families of the New World Order, the mafia families, and you want to get everybody into your private prisons that you own, or into your mental health system that you own, uh, you just list everyone as evil.
00:46:15.000It's evil, it fits with their plan, but it is by no means normal in any respect.
00:46:20.000They're just imposing themselves on us.
00:46:23.000There is no longer in this country, the present environment, any consideration for what is the law, what is just, what is reasonable.
00:46:31.000It's, I've got a big hammer and I can hit you over the head with it and that's it and I'll make up any law no matter how stupid and trivial it is to justify what I'm doing.
00:46:40.000Ron, that's absolutely right, and I just want military people to listen to me out there.
00:46:46.000They send you to Iraq, you breathe the plutonium, you're given experimental vaccines, you come back here to have your benefits cut.
00:46:58.000This is what is happening, and I want to tell this story.
00:47:02.000About five years ago, I've got it on tape somewhere around here, I even played clips on my local cable show, The Discovery Channel had a show called Inside.
00:47:53.000And he had a Korean War veteran sticker on his car, an NRA sticker, and the cops, young thugs, stand with tattoos and shaved heads, literal gang members, scary guys, folks, type of bouncer that grabs on your wife when you go in a bar.
00:48:08.000And he's, they go, look at this, he's dangerous, he's some type of survivalist, because he has an NRA sticker.
00:48:15.000They go in the house, and the guy had ten guns.
00:48:20.000M1, Grand, a couple rifles, And they go, look at this.
00:49:56.000Yeah, isn't it freedom to have cops manhandle you, slam you around, break your cameras, when you've got congressional press passes, arresting AP reporters, Reuters reporters, Pacifica reporters, American Spectator reporters, just for no reason!
00:50:12.000You mentioned something, and I want to bring this to the attention of your audience, because I don't think most people are old enough to know or remember this.
00:50:18.000Um, the haircuts that you referred to, the shaved head haircuts.
00:50:23.000Uh, though I get my haircuts short, too.
00:50:25.000I realized something, I checked into that.
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00:54:38.000The other talk show hosts that came, all of you, thank you so much.
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00:55:40.000Alright, we'll go to your calls, Andrea and Ed and Scott and many others here.
00:55:45.000We've got Dr. Breeding coming up as well.
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00:58:41.000Yeah, I'll tell you what, uh, Andrea, just stay there.
01:00:03.000I want to make just an overview comment on some of the things you've been discussing with this police state, which of course was brought about by 9-11, if you will.
01:00:13.000In other words, the psychological reaction, too many of these conservatives giving up their rights.
01:00:19.000And what I'm seeing here, you've brought up a lot of Project for New American Century, which of course was exposed as being the project to remake the Middle East.
01:00:29.000Condoleezza Rice confirmed this in Portland yesterday.
01:00:32.000I don't know if she did that intentionally or if it was a loose lip, but she talked about in the execution, Alex, of the Iraq War, that quote, we did not expect such a fierce insurgency resistance.
01:00:43.000So the pattern I'm seeing here... And last week Bush said the war on terror is a war we can't win.
01:01:29.000Yeah, but Alex, when you look at the USA Today and CBS now coming out with the Doug Feith connection to this, that's important because I talked to you once before about the High Priest of War.
01:01:40.000That's the book by that American free press reporter, Michael Piper.
01:01:44.000And he has actually synchronized the entire conspiracy going back to the Fox News Network to this Doug Fyfe.
01:01:50.000And now with new information about this Franklin character in Doug Fyfe's office giving stuff to Israel on this whole matter.
01:01:59.000And then if you tie that together with the BBC and the Santa Clarita paper out in Los Angeles, which apparently experienced a fire, The Army's own report said that the contractors did torture people to death.
01:02:10.000Karpinski said, I'm not even allowed in those wings.
01:02:12.000Shin Bet interrogators, those Israeli interrogators, were the ones brought in, even involved in some of the killing.
01:02:19.000Now, she didn't say the killing, but she said that she was shoved aside.
01:02:40.000We have photos of the Shin Bet people with the Shin Bet tattoos.
01:02:43.000Exactly, and now you have James Defense Weekly, earlier from their own info, corroborated Ms.
01:02:48.000Karpinski, but she, like Sandy Berger, has now fallen off the radar screen.
01:02:53.000I'm hoping, Alex, you'd bring Michael Piper on now.
01:02:55.000I think he's coming back from the Far East next week or so.
01:02:59.000And in the bookstores in Malaysia, his book, The High Priest of War, is being sold across that country and a few other countries.
01:03:07.000Just not here, where it counts so much, where he's been able to expose the CIA-Israeli Mossad operation.
01:03:14.000Well, look, I watched this Barnett guy for a couple hours on C-SPAN this weekend, this high priest of military war doctrine at the Military War College, and he said it's new world order, it's globalization, we're going to take over the whole planet.
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01:07:02.000Force metal screening hits roadblock in-house.
01:07:06.000Representative Ron Paul seeks to yank program to cause use of drugs on children.
01:07:11.000Representative Ron Paul, Republican, Texas, plans to offer an amendment in the House of Representatives today that would remove from an appropriations bill a new mandatory mental health screening program for America's children.
01:07:22.000The American tradition of parents deciding what is best for their children is yet again under attack, writes Kent Snyder of the Paul-founded Liberty Committee.
01:07:30.000The pharmacological industry has convinced President Bush to support mandatory mental health screening for every child in America, including preschool children, and industry is now working to convince Congress as well.
01:07:43.000The new Freedom Initiative recommends screening not only of children, but eventually for every American, and that's to have a job under your national ID card, I've seen Red say that, The initiative came out of the new Freedom Commission on Mental Health, which President Bush established in 2002.
01:07:59.000Critics of the plan say it is a thinly-veiled attempt by drug companies to provide a wider market for high-priced antidepressants and anti-psychotic medication, and puts government in areas of Americans' lives where it does not belong.
01:08:12.000Wright Snyder, the real payoff of the drug companies is the forced drugging of children that will result, as we learned tragically with Ritalin and even when parents refused.
01:08:21.000Paul's amendment to the Labor, HHS, and Education Appropriations Act for fiscal year '05 would take the new program out of the funding bill.
01:08:30.000The congressman, who is known for his strict adherence of the Constitution, wrote in a letter to his colleagues, as you know, and he's a medical doctor, by the way, psychiatric drugs are increasingly prescribed for children who show nothing more than children's typical rambunctious behavior.
01:08:47.000Many children have suffered harmful effects from these drugs, yet some parents have even been charged with child abuse for refusing to drug their children.
01:08:56.000The federal government should not promote national mental health screening programs that will force the use of these anti-psychotic drugs such as Ritalin.
01:09:05.000Now, or psychiatric drugs such as Ritalin.
01:09:07.000And it says the new Freedom Commission found that despite their prevalence, mental disorders often go undiagnosed and recommended comprehensive mental health screening for consumers of all ages.
01:09:18.000Now this was set up, the model of this, in Austin in the early 1990s.
01:09:23.000It is openly run by a consortium of drug companies.
01:09:26.000They come up with studies that they find with hundreds of new mental illnesses a year, Europe is now doing the exact same thing.
01:10:32.000You've got to fight it at a state level.
01:10:34.000And to help fight that, Dr. Breeding, who I challenged, has done a great job to come up with a plan, a legal form to put schools and hospitals on notice.
01:10:48.000And yes, folks, even when we've had children at the hospitals, they come in and do the mental health aid and you have to say no.
01:11:27.000I appreciate you carrying on this fight for us all here.
01:11:31.000Well, you're doing it too, and you've done a great job.
01:11:33.000And unfortunately, I think your proposal, a way to block this, was so popular that you've got a server notice up saying you went over your bandwidth.
01:11:41.000I hope you get more bandwidth and get your website back up.
01:11:44.000But a lot of sites have mirrored your proposal, and we'll try to get that out to people.
01:12:02.000And from there you can click on right to this.
01:12:05.000We call it a declaration of refusal to comply with any new Freedom Commission mandate for universal health, mental health screening of children in the schools.
01:12:15.000For those that just joined us, it's hard to Overstate how evil and focused and crafted this is by corporations who literally don't just want to make hundreds of billions of dollars, but also want to take control of the society.
01:12:30.000But can you, in a nutshell, go over this for us?
01:12:34.000Well, you mentioned that the thing is linked to what started in Texas in the early mid-90s.
01:12:41.000It's called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project, and basically what that means is it's a formulary Kind of thing that says if this disease then this drug or specifically if this mental illness then this drug.
01:12:55.000If ADHD then Ritalin if that doesn't work then Adderall.
01:12:58.000If depression then Paxil or Prozac or whatever and if that doesn't work then electroshock.
01:13:03.000So it's basically a formula that says you diagnose this supposed illness then you give this drug and the drugs as you mentioned are the ones that happen to be the main profit points for the For the drug companies.
01:13:26.000We're trying to investigate and sort that out and examine the money flows exactly.
01:13:31.000But what happened with the drug companies were very intimately tied to the people who got appointed to design TMAP in Texas.
01:13:41.000Most, a large percentage of the people who got appointed to the New Freedom Commission by President Bush have links directly to TMAP here in Texas, and we've been able to document all that.
01:13:53.000So this New Freedom Commission, and it is Orwellian, I mean, New Freedom, right?
01:13:58.000You know, we call it New Intrusion Initiative or whatever, but New Freedom Commission.
01:14:03.000These people are intimately linked to TMAP, which is intimately linked to the drug companies And so what sounds like, oh, we're caring about your children, we want to look for problems so we can help them as soon as possible, is really about, we're throwing out a drag net to bring more kids in.
01:14:20.000Yeah, this puts drug reps into all the schools now, and it's going to be for adults too, and I want to go over that, but for those that just joined us, imagine a science fiction movie in theaters, where every public school is really a psychiatric laboratory Where the curriculum is psychological testing, and spying on your parents, and semester classes with police, how to be tattletales, and tattletale cards.
01:14:46.000I mean, this is the new America, and they brag!
01:14:48.000We've had Charlotte Isserby on many times, former Deputy Head of the Department of Education under Reagan, and she's got a book the size of a phone book full of documents.
01:14:55.000They say, this is where they're going to train us how to be prisoners, and institutionalize the entire population, Dr. Breeding.
01:15:04.000Well, the New Freedom Commission very specifically and clearly says that they want to screen all children and adults in the public schools for signs of possible mental illness.
01:15:19.000They see the schools as the place where children are, so there are 52 million children and 6 million adults.
01:15:29.000You know, there's already at least 9 million, maybe more, school-aged children on psychiatric drugs.
01:16:03.000I mean, I guess, were there drug bushes that grew and we were all mentally ill and we had the drug bushes?
01:16:11.000How did we suddenly discover Ritalin deficiencies and Prozac deficiencies and Zypraxa deficiencies, you know?
01:16:18.000It just happens to correlate with the pharmaceutical industry finding a major growth point with these psychotropic drugs and then specifically a huge growth market with children and an onslaught of Well, I want to stop right there, because I've got the medical inserts on these drugs.
01:16:39.000These things admittedly, and even officials have gone public and said that these things kill people, they brain damage.
01:16:48.000Well, you mentioned, I mean, Ritalin, you know, we have 186 Ritalin-related heart deaths reported to the FDA in the 1990s on a voluntary reporting system.
01:16:59.000That's estimated to be 1% to 10% of the actual incidence.
01:17:02.000So that's potentially over 18,000 deaths in the 1990s on that one drug alone.
01:17:08.000Prozac and Paxil and Zoloft, these antidepressants, are now being very clearly revealed that they link to causing suicide in the percentage of people who take them, and that that information was suppressed by the drug companies and the FDA.
01:17:42.000We've got millions of people walking around with this neurological disease caused by these antipsychotics.
01:17:47.000And we're having an exponential, many hundred percent increase in the last few years of children as young as one or two years old being placed on these drugs.
01:17:57.000I mean, this is not This is not any kind of fiction.
01:18:02.000And that's while the brain is growing.
01:18:03.000That's while the brain is growing, and then when they're all screwed up in permanent vegetables, they drug them for life.
01:18:09.000You start the kids young, it creates tolerance and dependency, you know, it alters the brain function, and plus it labels them with the idea that they have a mental illness, which Everybody knows, quote unquote, is due to a biological or genetic defect.
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01:23:26.000But since all this is out, because it comes out that they covered up the huge suicide increase, what do the drug companies do?
01:23:32.000They come back with, oh we're going to force you all on it!
01:23:37.000And the schools are also being turned into systems to process you into the criminal justice system, or into welfare.
01:23:42.000Any way to get the state in control of you, and so the corporations can profit from you.
01:23:47.000Now I know that we have Andrea, and Jim, and Jimmy, and Dave, and Peter, and Al.
01:23:53.000We'll get to all of you quickly in the next segment, but we're talking to My good friend, Dr. John Breeding.
01:24:00.000Doctor, right now, let's talk about the plan you've got at the state level to put these drug reps, these control freaks, these literal Nazi demons on notice when they try to force you or your children into psychiatric systems or drugs.
01:24:18.000Well, actually, this is state and federal in the sense that we're recruiting signatories from all over the country, and then we can sort them out by state for people to use in their individual states.
01:24:28.000But basically, it's a declaration of refusal.
01:24:31.000You know, it's a statement of what's going on with the New Freedom Commission, and then ultimately it's a place where it says, We, the undersigned, solemnly declare that we will not allow our children to be the subjects of any form of implementation of new freedom recommendations to screen our children for signs of mental illness.
01:24:50.000It also says, We promise to actively resist further intrusion of psychiatry into the schools, will not cooperate with those who act as agents of this wrongheaded initiative, etc., And so basically what we've got is we've got this posted up.
01:25:05.000We've only had it up for two days and we've already got close to a thousand signatures.
01:25:10.000We plan to get several thousand within the next week and on from there.
01:25:15.000And then we're going to use this just to get a lot more media attention, and then specifically with administrators and politicians.
01:25:22.000It's just part of the effort to show that there is massive resistance to this kind of idea, and it will not be implemented.
01:25:28.000And then also individual parents can use this as well.
01:25:37.000But we're going to definitely use it on a group.
01:27:35.000Well, Doctor, whatever happened to the Fifth Amendment or the Fourth Amendment?
01:27:39.000This is an intrusion into your mind with phony baloney guidelines that are a fraud themselves.
01:27:48.000This is an intrusion into your Fifth Amendment.
01:27:50.000I mean, you've got to sign a permission slip for your child to go to the zoo or the planetarium But you don't have to sign a permission slip for them to sit them down and do psychological testing on them twice a year.
01:28:02.000And then the plan says for adults as well.
01:28:04.000And now Illinois is moving to make pregnant women do it.
01:28:07.000They're going to start in Illinois with bringing social workers in to get with all the pregnant moms and make sure they're not memorial.
01:28:16.000So that's where they want to get everybody.
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01:33:46.000C-SPAN is set up inside the security perimeter at Madison Square Garden, right outside.
01:33:51.000There's helicopters swarming above us, Big W projected on the side of a skyscraper, police with machine guns and sound cannons all around us, and they've got the delegates up there worshipping Bush and, you know, just all the things he's doing.
01:34:59.000And I hope that everybody out there wakes up to this and realizes that America is America because we have the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
01:35:06.000Everybody should investigate 9-11 and find out who's really behind it.
01:35:09.000It's Bush's and the New World Order's Reichstag.
01:35:12.000And his cousin, Kerry, isn't going to save you either.
01:36:00.000I mean, because the most horrible, unbelievable things now are becoming commonplace.
01:36:05.000People are believing what we're telling them because we're able to give them the facts.
01:36:08.000Do you have any comments on this issue?
01:36:10.000Oh, I think it's just a tremendous impact that you're having with your work and, you know, the thought is, like, you know, how is it that People are able to hold that one fact somewhere in the mind and at the same time really like and support George Bush because he's making it safe from terror in America.
01:37:14.000Now they want to arrest us for protesting peaceably with permitted protest.
01:37:19.000I mean, it's every freedom we've got is under attack, and everything the government's doing with corporations controlling it is about taking our choice and our freedom away.
01:37:28.000This is classical slavery on a hundred fronts.
01:37:57.000Secondly, I heard, or I read this, and you can probably tell me if it's true, that one of the judges who was looking at all these cases of arrest up there, Find the City of New York $1,000 ahead for hundreds of these arrests, you know, because he was clear that these arrests were not proper arrests.
01:38:22.000And so that kind of tension or dynamic, you know, forcing people into situations where the tyranny, as you say, where the oppression is clearly revealed for what it is, and it's not able to be hidden behind a smokescreen of of calling people terrorists or saying that they're disrupting or whatever.
01:38:40.000So it's like that energy of being in the streets and that, it's got to have an effect.
01:38:46.000It forces people, at least in times, to kind of have to face their conscience.
01:38:53.000It brought things to a head, and police would apologize in private with the cameras off, but in their group dynamic, and it's like German soldiers.
01:39:03.000They weren't all bad, but in that group dynamic, they were very, very wicked.
01:39:10.000You know, to be there in the middle of this and to see this tyranny did wake up a lot of people and you're absolutely right.
01:39:17.000Right, the judge was fining them $500 per head for every 30 minutes that they held people past the date, and they held over 1,000 people eight hours after the judge's order.
01:39:34.000Last time I heard it was like five hundred thousand dollars.
01:39:38.000They put them in a camp with asbestos in the harbor in a condemned building and made the cops work in there and put people 30 to 40 in a cage in barbed wire, literal barbed wire cages, inside an un-air-conditioned building.
01:40:12.000People went down to the police station, central booking, where they would be taken by bus and then taken in and booked after they'd been in the camp for a day or so.
01:40:18.000And people put notes up, like they did in Germany or like they did in Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge.
01:40:27.000Well, let's just pray that that just continues the process of really waking people up and radicalizing people, you know, to the fact that, you know, the veneer of civility and indecency is a very thin veneer.
01:41:15.000It'll detail the information as far as why this Would be something to support, but the main thing is that you sign it and it basically says we, the undersigned, solemnly declare that we will not allow our children to be the subjects of this governmental kind of action.
01:41:31.000So this is a declaration of independence against this pharmacological tyranny and mass murder, folks.
01:41:39.000And by signing on, you will be supporting this effort and really giving us some leverage with the press and with the politicians.
01:41:47.000You know, we want We want thousands of people to sign up.
01:41:50.000Everybody who's listening to Alex Jones Show today, sign up this thing and then Alex can come on in the next couple of days and say, hey, we got 10,000 signatures yesterday from this show.
01:42:08.000I just want to add that we carry two of Dr. Breeding's books.
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01:42:24.000It really supports Alex and me both for you to get these books.
01:42:27.000And the nice thing about them is besides really challenging this phenomenon of psychiatric drugging and explaining how that works, it also, they're just really fresh.
01:42:37.000reminders of what children are really like and what our job really is as adults and really support for how to really remember the nature of children, how to really meet their needs, how to really think of them, free from all this nonsense that says they're sick, they're mentally ill, they're defective.
01:42:52.000No, really, they're glorious, they're wonderful, they're unique, they're self-determining, they don't want to be controlled.
01:42:58.000It's these kind of reminders and support for that.
01:43:01.000I mean, they've got this mind and everything is so fresh and new, and then we enslave them in the society with this Prussian model that is kindergarten does this to them.
01:43:23.000I'm on your email list too, Doctor, and I really can't say enough how much of a resource it is.
01:43:31.000One of the things that has struck me in reading all the literature, I think the reason a lot of people assume that the mental health screening is benevolent is because they think, "Oh, well, I don't have a mental illness.
01:44:10.000Is it going to be what you think about certain issues, you know, and even the psychological tests can have some pretty subjective questions on them.
01:44:28.000The diagnoses are totally subjective and they're taking normal child behaviors like a lot of energy, a lot of excitement, talking out of turn, getting out of your seat.
01:44:38.000These things are pathologized as criteria of mental illness and they're totally subjective.
01:44:44.000They're mostly an expression of adult discomfort with The energy of children or with a child's discomfort.
01:44:52.000We'll ask a 13-year-old girl or boy, do you get upset?
01:45:05.000A friend of mine at church one time was telling me that they put her husband on medication, like an anger management thing, and he was beginning to calm down.
01:45:16.000She didn't know quite how to deal with it, and their answer to it was, well, you need to be on medication, too.
01:45:28.000It's really a drug, because a medication is something that's used to treat a verified illness in the form of a physical or chemical abnormality, like a cancer tumor or a blood sugar imbalance.
01:45:38.000They call speed, they call amphetamine, they call downers, they call these things medication.
01:46:53.000You might be suffering from Conduct Disorder.
01:46:56.000You might be suffering, if you really get out loud like Alex Jones, you might be suffering from SDPD, Severely Dangerous Personality Disorder.
01:47:06.000So there are these diagnoses that really are an expression of calling defiance of authority a pathology.
01:47:15.000Can I make one appeal to the country before I hang up because my battery is low and that is you need to love your children a little bit more.
01:47:23.000You need to hold them and you need to play with them and get off of your sports and get off of your porn and you need You get your children off those drugs.
01:47:33.000I know people who have their children on drugs, and it's ridiculous.
01:47:36.000There's not enough love coming out from the rest of us.
01:47:39.000If people really love their children, they would get to the bottom of this and stop worshipping sports and possessions and start caring about your family.
01:47:49.000Let's... Let me give you a quick irony on this, Alex.
01:47:52.000I heard yesterday that there was a group of Russian psychologists that were consulting on a project over here, and they were looking at the fact that we have millions of school-age children on stimulant drugs and speed and like that in this country.
01:48:09.000It's kind of ironic because we think of the Russians as doing this suppression of dissonance with psychiatry, which they did 20 years ago.
01:48:17.000But these Russian psychologists were looking at this, and they say, where's the loving?
01:48:43.000Yeah, I think the new freedom is a great thing, just because it's going to give the American people some much-needed practice in saying no and not complying.
01:48:53.000We've got plenty of opportunities for that.
01:48:55.000Well, we're going to need some practice for the draft and for the microchips and et cetera.
01:49:00.000What I really called about, though, Alex, was you made a comment earlier, and I was kind of wondering, you said I support Israel.
01:49:08.000I was wondering what you meant by Israel.
01:49:15.000I support people being able to live in peace.
01:49:19.000But I said the people running Israel do not support Israel and arm China and arm Iran.
01:49:26.000And as Barry Hamish and others have said, really want to destroy Israel, and the people of Israel are just as enslaved to their government as the Palestinians are.
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01:53:33.000And then they'll take over the planet.
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01:55:00.000So I don't just fall down and worship some of the radical Muslim elements that I don't think reflect most Muslims I've talked to or most Muslim countries, but some of them are out of control.
01:55:10.000And those are the very Muslim countries that are actually protected by big oil and the military-industrial complex.
01:55:16.000And the nations we go in and bring down are the ones that weren't a threat to the West.
01:55:52.000Okay, well, it was the globalists, in other words.
01:55:54.000See, there was always the plan to have three world wars, the third one being a religious war, and Israel was set up as the provocator state.
01:56:03.000I don't have anything against the people of Israel, but the state of Israel is set up as a provocation for the latest world war.
01:56:09.000Yeah, the way the state of Israel is set up is to expand the new world order, okay?
01:56:14.000And that's what I've always tried to point out, is that it's a counterfeit, and I appreciate your call.
01:56:18.000Dr. Breeding, I know it's a whole other issue, but do you have any comments on that?
01:56:23.000Well, I have a lot of... I haven't articulated this as much as you have, but I think I agree with most of what you're saying.
01:56:32.000I don't like it that you're refusing to get caught in a position that you're scapegoating or pathologizing individual peoples or individual races or individual nations.
01:56:44.000I think it's very clear to say that over and over again.
01:56:47.000I have a lot of sympathy with the oppression of Palestinians, and I don't have a lot of sympathy with the policies of the Israeli state, just like I don't have any sympathy with the policies of the United States as a state.
01:57:03.000And I see the policies of Israel and the policies of the United States as very much interrelated, so I agree.
01:57:09.000You know, they're both oriented towards aggression and exploitation and conquest, and they're not really inclined towards reconciliation and communication and diplomacy and really working with people.
01:58:11.000Government is normally very corrupt and brutal.
01:58:16.000Whether it's Saudi Arabia or Israel or now what the United States is turning into.
01:58:20.000But Russia, and that's the point I was trying to make.
01:58:26.000Now we'll get off into that, I'm sure, talking about Israel, but we do need to get into Russia's pre-emptive strikes against global terror bases.
01:58:38.000They've been wanting to get Russia into NATO, now what's happening?
01:58:40.000And I watched the Pentagon meeting on C-SPAN?
01:58:43.000They're going to be our new ally, tromping around, and former KGB chiefs here helping set up Homeland Security.
01:58:48.000I mean, this is so bizarre, it's like a bad science fiction novel.
01:58:55.000You'd laugh at any novel that was this weird.
01:58:58.000We're talking to John Breeding, though, and he is, of course, a psychologist and author who has exposed the forced drugging of American children and adults.
01:59:06.000Alex, I think you know that they don't really have much chance in passing something this egregious straight up.
01:59:11.000So they're going to pull back and then they're going to try to pass it piecemeal.
01:59:21.000Alex, I think you know that they don't really have much chance in passing something this egregious straight up, so they're going to pull back and then they're going to try to pass a peace meal.
01:59:33.000The other point is that obviously this is a supposed benefit, and like all the other so-called benefits, It ties into the socialist slave state number, and...
01:59:46.000And once you revoke that, they pretty well can't touch you.
01:59:50.000But what I don't understand is why they think they have any chance of enforcing this whatsoever.
01:59:57.000I mean, are people that stupid that they would actually Go forth for their so-called benefit.
02:00:05.000There's no law you have to take vaccines, but all over the country for a month, leading up to the new school year, they said it's the law, you have to do it, you'll be arrested.
02:01:51.000It's an ongoing Effort is going to be piecemeal.
02:01:55.000Part of this whole thing is about waking people up and getting them to sign on the line and to see what's going on and to take a position and build the strength to say no and build the strength to be a conscious human being, that kind of dynamic.
02:02:12.000Yeah, well, you know, it just sounds so outrageous on its face value that, I mean, even somebody who has been somewhat dumbed down and might even think that vaccinations are a good idea, even somebody who has been somewhat dumbed down and might even think that vaccinations are a good idea, that they would just passively go along because
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02:06:06.000All right, Dr. Breeding, you were continuing to comment on what Peter was saying from Missouri.
02:06:19.000You know, that's what amazes me is that I could be in New York and watch mainstream reporters arrested for standing on the sidewalk with big film crews videotaping the police arresting innocent people.
02:06:34.000That they would have sound wave weapons that they're using in Iraq.
02:06:39.000That I was in martial law, that there's no law to take vaccines, but the nightly news says it's a law, and the school administrator says it's a law, and then no one's able to call them on it.
02:06:49.000I mean, it's just every... It's like lying about weapons of mass destruction and then saying they never said it was about weapons of mass destruction.
02:06:55.000It's just... It's like people aren't... A lot of folks aren't waking up, okay?
02:06:59.000The mainstream media makes the illusion that we aren't waking up, tries to make us feel alone.
02:07:05.000They've tried to destroy any type of community.
02:07:08.000They've tried to stop us from reaching out and knowing our neighbors.
02:07:11.000And so really, we're like rats caught in a machine or a maze.
02:07:15.000And we'll go to calls in a second, but can you comment to that, Dr. Breeden?
02:07:18.000Well, good distinction about, you know, the mainstream media saying how things are versus how things really are, to keep separating that out.
02:07:28.000I really sympathize with Peter's response because here's a guy who's pretty aware.
02:07:31.000He's already got a lot of awareness about what's going down, but still he's shaking his head and saying, this is just obviously so outrageous.
02:07:54.000And so then, so it is about waking up and staying awake, you know, and, and, you know, and that, that saying, you know, that statement, I will not go back to sleep, you know, it's like every day, I will be awake, and I will be aware, and I will pay attention, and I will seek the truth.
02:08:12.000And I will not believe something just because somebody says so.
02:08:15.000And I will find people who support me in being that way, which is the community that you're talking about.
02:08:24.000So I sympathize with Peter and I think it really is about continuing to be, I think the ability to be fully responsible and fully awake is exactly related to the ability to be completely disillusioned, you know, of all the Well, what's the saying that one of the truest forms of mental illness, if you even believe in that, is the refusal to go through legitimate suffering?
02:08:50.000We'll take care of you, all those things, you know.
02:08:53.000Well, what's the saying that one of the truest forms of mental illness, if you even believe in that, is the refusal to go through legitimate suffering?
02:09:02.000And people just, you know, denial is not a river in Egypt, as the cliche goes.
02:09:10.000And so many people, you know, George Arwell or Eric Blair in 1984 spent a lot of time describing doublethink.
02:09:18.000And he said it was something that the upper classes, the elites, the yuppies did.
02:09:22.000Yeah, well it's a numbing of conscience.
02:09:25.000they knew it was horrible so they did the mental trick of just accepting it and and somehow getting power over you know can't beat them join them a lot of people i've talked to will admit this is evil but go oh there's nothing you can do to just join it i don't know how people do that yeah yeah with the numbing of conscience you know you don't feel any discomfort at disneyland you don't feel discomfort on your couch eating popcorn watching fantasy tv i mean you know you go numb
02:09:53.000but you're not truly alive i remember when i was like that and never to a great extent but it that's that you know the truth will set you free they the people perish for lack of knowledge but that's that big hole in the heart you're not truly alive and you're right about suffering you know i mean it's The man's feeling sadness when he looks at this, you know.
02:10:14.000Our feelings of sadness when we look at the reality of what's going on.
02:10:17.000You're not normal if you don't feel that pain.
02:10:19.000That means you've been deadened or chopped off from something.
02:10:22.000And what psychiatry does is it acts as a control agent for the state by saying that that pain is an illness.
02:10:30.000That pain is a natural response to social injustice.
02:10:34.000And so part of saying the no to psychiatry is just saying yes to I will keep thinking.
02:11:10.000You look at those elephants in those small cages shaking their heads back and forth, totally depressed, waving their trunks.
02:11:17.000It's the same thing they do when one of their babies or one of the elephants dies.
02:11:22.000They'll stand around the body for a few days trying to protect it from predators, and even try to bury it in some cases, kick dirt up on it.
02:11:29.000I even saw a report a few years ago where they said, We have a depression problem just because these elephants are mentally ill.
02:11:55.000You know, it's like somebody buys an Australian Shepherd that's meant to run 15 miles a day, at least, the way it's bred, and you put it in a one-room apartment, and so when it chews holes in things and freaks out, and goes what you'd call crazy, you put it on doggy Prozac.
02:12:11.000And now I found out that millions of animals are on drugs.
02:12:30.000The other thing that you hear about the elephants is the way they train them is they stake them, you know, for a while so they can't move and then they learn that and then they remove the stake and they still condition that they can't move.
02:12:42.000And that's like being in school and being forced into this position of having to be kind of passive and dependent on adult authority.
02:12:49.000People grow up to be adults and they still think they're that way.
02:13:27.000And I'm sure I'm one of those super sick people because I've never believed all that baloney.
02:13:33.000I can remember in 1948, I started school By the time I was in the eighth grade, I could tell that the education system was just plummeting downhill because they kept lowering the standards and teaching to the lowest common dummy, if you want to call it that.
02:13:49.000Also, when I went to college, they were teaching, of course, socialism and communism and economics, and I'm not politically correct then, even though the term wasn't used.
02:14:00.000I walked into a comparative economics course one day and made a comment to the professor But Karl Marx must have been a real sicky.
02:14:36.000There's also a syndicated talk host who said recently that 50% of the people in this country are too stupid to live in a free country, and I think he was wrong.
02:14:48.000Last week, it was mentioned that there was a treaty with Mexico about Social Security and also a treaty with United Nothing about taking over all the oceans, and I missed the names of them.
02:14:59.000Yeah, it's the Treaty of the Sea, and the UN is the is the bankruptcy body that claims the C for itself, then gives it to elite corporations, and then the, I don't have the name of the treaty, but it's been all over the news, now the Pan-American Union, Union of American States, Pre-Trader of the Americas, it's already begun paying Social Security down into Pre-Trader of the Americas, it's already begun paying Social Security down into Mexico, so they're merging this
02:15:24.000I remember in the early 60s in college, listening to the Voice of America and listening to Radio Moscow, and we dubbed it Radio Moscow, Radio Mukau, and you can make out of that what you want, but DOA sounded almost the same.
02:15:52.000Well, I agree with the basic idea that whether it's capitalism or communism, you know, it's kind of like arguing between Republicans and Democrats.
02:16:00.000You look at the basic level of the organization, the level of centralization and control, where's the focus, where's the value?
02:16:09.000Is it on reverence for life or is it on the maximization of control and suppression?
02:16:18.000I don't know if we've ever really had a true free enterprise any more than we've ever had a true so-called communism.
02:16:29.000I don't allow myself to be defined that way.
02:16:32.000I mean, everything is always a thug, a king-rat ruling over people, and you always find, you know, the big so-called capitalists working with the communists or any other thug, as Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, said at Georgetown.
02:16:48.000I can't in good conscience vote for either one of the big manure spreaders we have running for president, and I'd like to know who else is on the ballot besides Nader and those two.
02:16:57.000We'll try to talk about that after the break, but I mean, just briefly, Nader's controlled obviously now.
02:17:02.000A lot of evidence has come out for that effect.
02:17:05.000You know, his book's been published by Rupert Murdoch and a bunch of other stuff has come out.
02:17:10.000There is Mr. Perutka from the Constitution Party who's good, great.
02:17:15.000Michael Bagnerik from Libertarians is great as well.
02:17:18.000But frankly, everybody gets so focused on the big presidential election, but people don't come out to vote for the county or city election.
02:17:26.000The big fight needs to be about the sanctity of our ballots, and to stop that.
02:17:31.000That's where the real fight's at right now.
02:17:34.000So frankly, I think the whole presidential thing is nothing but a big diversion.
02:17:38.000We'll be back with more calls and with Dr. Breeding and more news.
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02:24:26.000Yeah, I want you to maybe speak to this, man.
02:24:29.000I'm running into people who don't want George Bush in there, which of course is a good thing, but they think that Kerry is the only thing they can do.
02:24:37.000And of course, I don't want to talk about Ralph Nader because he's just another shill, but I mean, they're convinced that the other person is convinced And so they'll be wasting their vote if they vote for anyone else.
02:24:51.000And so, even though they're saying that the other person is convinced, they're convinced themselves because they won't allow themselves to vote for anybody but George Bush or Kerry.
02:25:00.000Well, that's the sheep mentality of, I don't have my own ideas, I'll follow what other people are doing.
02:25:09.000Kerry is for the free trade area of the Americas.
02:25:12.000Bush and Kerry aren't just cousins in their bloodlines, but they're They're brothers, twin brothers when it comes to their policies, only the rhetoric's different.
02:25:43.000Generally speaking, we tend to get more sympathy from Republicans on sort of liberty and privacy stuff like not drugging kids in schools and stuff.
02:25:54.000But at the same time, though, we have this thing in the U.S.
02:25:57.000Congress right now called the Child Medication Safety Act, Senate Bill 1390, that passed the House almost unanimously and is now being held up in the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee.
02:26:11.000Uh, by none other than Edward Kennedy.
02:26:14.000It's a bill that, it's a law that would just basically make it a federal law that would say that no school can require psychiatric drugs as a condition of attending school.
02:26:24.000And so the Democrats are holding this up and we think it's largely just because of a collusion with Big Pharma and the psychiatric lobbyists and stuff like that.
02:26:36.000Politics is a mess, you know, just because of the vested interest and the fact that Big Pharma has so much money and so many lobbyists, you know, so it takes a lot of effort to impinge.
02:26:47.000And, uh, it's not a Democrat or Republican issue.
02:26:50.000Any individual politician can be bought and sold.
02:26:53.000Well, yeah, that's the point I wanted to add here, is that a committee chairman and above in the government, that's what I'm saying, it's all the same actions, just different debates, different rhetoric.
02:27:03.000And, uh, So the Bushys and Mr. Kennedy are on the same page.
02:27:10.000So I think individuals can make decisions based on, you know, it's valid at times to vote on the lesser of two evils maybe, but we have to keep the basic energy going about that we are going to make our decisions and do our work.
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02:31:12.000But you really can affect people's worldview by getting them to open up their eyes and free their minds.
02:31:19.000With my documentary films, with the different books and videos and books on tape by other great researchers and authors like Dr. Breeding that we carry at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com and I would hope that all of you out there that have been procrastinating and haven't taken that first step towards action
02:31:44.000Would go to Dr. Breeding's website, wildestcults.com, and sign his national petition to stand up against this new slavery, I mean, new freedom, I mean, new dehumanization initiative, it's called New Freedom, folks.
02:31:58.000But to educate other people, to take action, to truly inform them, to give them powerful doses of documented truth, You need to go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or PrisonPlanet.tv and go to the Safe Secure Shopping Cart and get my new film, American Dictators, the staged election of 2004, Bush-Kerry.
02:32:21.000Just how they're for the exact same things and how it's a false left-right paradigm.
02:33:15.000That's 888-253-3139. Or PrisonPlanet.com or Infowars.com, as I said.
02:33:23.000Or just write to me, Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78704.
02:33:29.000And again, I was in New York last week, and it's not, ooh, aren't I a big star, because I'm not.
02:33:38.000It's actually, you know, it's safer to be in the spotlight and also dangerous at the same time.
02:33:43.000But to be in New York and to have 500 people conservatively, mainly from New York and other parts of the country, not even local Austinites, come up to me who were informed, who knew about the New World Order, who knew about the real issues, who knew about government involvement in 9-11.
02:34:01.000We had hundreds on video and our cameras were rolling that would run up.
02:34:04.000Crowds marching by, hey Alex, Alex, hey it's Alex Jones!
02:34:08.000I mean, it blew me away that we're having that big of an effect with the media focused on the kooks and the communists and the, who are the vast, vast, vast, vast, I don't know, maybe one out of a hundred of the 300,000 plus protesters in one March I was in, and I've got some New York news pieces where they said half a million.
02:34:27.000National News would say thousands March trying to minimize that, but the point is thousands of my videos have gone out.
02:35:01.000The main thing is to click on the website, wilderscolta.com, click on the Declaration of Refusal to Comply, make a statement that you declare that you will not allow your children to be subjects of government experimentation and intrusion.
02:36:35.000And the statistics show that people who have been on these then go on and use illegal drugs or get into other pharmacological drugs that are even stronger.
02:36:47.000And again, just ask yourself, 50 years ago, did we have to put 10 million children at any one time and another, what is it, 15 million adults or more now on very toxic, brain-altering drugs?
02:37:02.000No other country in the world does this.
02:37:04.000In countries, as I mentioned, like Russia, countries like Japan, these countries that have been our archenemies at times, our allies at times, you know, they look at this country and they say, my God, you know, we don't even have these things in our country, you know, what is going on?
02:37:19.000And, uh, uh, well, I'll tell you this, Doctor, I've been to foreign countries and their children still play on the street corners.
02:37:31.000What they call soccer, and what we call soccer, and you don't see that as much here anymore.
02:37:40.000You talk about being sick and ill, folks.
02:37:42.000We are a sick society, and the sick society is trying to make us all sick.
02:37:48.000That's what we're talking about is kind of leveling the playing field and giving us a chance to rebuild our communities, you know.
02:37:54.000Taking corporate profit and maximum profit and minimum liability.
02:37:58.000Reshuffling that to just level the playing field and let people, people want to produce, people want to be entrepreneurs, people want to be like Alex Jones and have their own shows, you know, but it's very difficult, you know, when you've got all the incentives that favor the big entities.
02:38:19.000I mean, earlier when I was just saying, you know, all the people knew who I was, I was saying that to show that as an indicator that I'm just one little guy.
02:38:26.000There's thousands of prominent people like yourself that are breeding and others that are out there doing as good a job or better.
02:38:33.000I mean, when I started out ten years ago, I never imagined that I would have this big of an effect thanks to God and the people taking action.
02:38:40.000But all of us have to be leaders, folks.
02:38:49.000I want to touch on what the earlier caller that called in speaking about Jews.
02:38:54.000Like you, I'm sick and tired of hearing about them.
02:38:58.000You know, Jews that have done evil things, and please, by all means, document them, but also document the ones that are in this country that call themselves Christians that are doing the same thing.
02:39:07.000And, um, there is a, you know, so these Christians are out here supporting, you know, certain parts of Judaism.
02:39:13.000I mean, if you go to Israel, you can't witness to anybody because it's against the law.
02:39:19.000If you're a Christian Jew, you can't migrate freely.
02:39:23.000And, um, Revelation says that the Antichrist is going to be coming out of the land where Jesus was killed or crucified.
02:39:32.000So those are some touching points, but there are evil people like you say all over the world, but please just don't document the Jews or you'll seem anti-semitic or whatever.
02:39:41.000So make sure you document all of them.
02:39:43.000We could start with some right now in 2004.
02:41:04.000Okay, well, Willie just passed away last November, and I met him just before he died.
02:41:09.000I read a book that he had written called In Search of Isaac's Children last summer, and it confirmed The truth of the scriptures, most especially what's prophesied in the Old Testament, in Jeremiah and Isaiah, about who Israel is.
02:41:27.000And Israel, there's a book called Old Jerusalem, and in that book there's a chapter that tells about in May of 48, when they chose the name Israel.
02:41:38.000But in good faith, Alex, when I went to school down there in Austin, I used to be a security guard at a Jewish sorority house.
02:41:47.000I've lived with Jews, and I don't hate Jews, but I do love the truth.
02:41:53.000And the truth is, Israel has never been Jewish.
02:42:11.000Well, I would agree that some of the people there aren't, but I mean, obviously some of the people in Israel are Jews.
02:42:17.000They may be, but they're not Israelites.
02:42:19.000And even if they are Israelites, Alex, if you study the Old Testament, the land that was deeded to the children of Israel, and specifically the tribe of Judah at Gilgal, is only a small portion of that land.
02:42:32.000And if you study the Scriptures, you'll find that Israel was dispersed.
02:42:36.000They were taken into the Assyrian captivity.
02:42:41.000And proven from the world almanac... I know, but sir, do you see how I take one call about somebody calling about Israel and then just this... I understand, Alex.
02:43:00.000I would appreciate it if you'd have somebody like Pastor Peters or Bob Weiland or anybody out there that's willing to, in good faith,
02:43:08.000I don't know the details of the biblical references and all that this man is referring to, but I just want to say that I think it's a real distraction to get too caught up in this religious ideological warfare, because the epicenter of the world's problems is not Israel.
02:43:33.000The epicenter of the world's problems is about the corporate control of world decisions and the basic values that come from that.
02:43:42.000You know, and it flows from multinational corporations that are lying to Karl Rove, who's really the President of the United States, and controls the dynamics there, and the funding that allows him to keep George Bush and people like him getting elected, and that creates this playing field where corporations can just rape
02:44:06.000The planet and the people without any responsibility or liability and that needs to be changed just to make things equal, to make things fair, to give common people a chance.
02:44:18.000It's not a real mysterious, mystical kind of phenomenon.
02:44:23.000There's overtones of that and you go into that in some of your work, but really it's a nitty-gritty kind of economic oppression that we have to Well, what happens is, you know, take Africa.
02:44:36.000The UN and other global groups will play one black tribe off against another because one lives on one side of the river and the other on the other side.
02:44:43.000Yeah, that's a distraction from really facing the issues.
02:45:03.000One, there's a, I'm in Denver actually, there's a billboard on one of the main roads out here with Bin Laden sitting in his cave, like sitting there in his legs crossed.
02:45:12.000There's a big title over it that says, What's Next?
02:45:14.000And it's just an advertisement for a radio station for a news radio talk show, I guess.
02:45:18.000But it's a full-sized, huge picture of Bin Laden sitting there in his cave.
02:45:22.000But I thought that was rather appalling.
02:45:24.000But I saw Bob Graham on MSNBC last night, and he was talking about the informant In San Diego, housing two terrorists, supposedly from 9-11, and how the White House, FBI said, the White House, said they couldn't divulge the informant's name or subpoena.
02:45:59.000Well, I mean, it's admitted that it was in Florida, it was in Illinois, it was in Arizona, it was in California, and San Francisco, and San Diego.
02:46:09.000All over, the so-called hijackers and terrorists had the FBI paying for their houses, their cars, their credit cards, and there's the proof right there.
02:46:17.000The other thing, you mentioned that, what was it, Dr. Barnett, that was on East End?
02:46:23.000You're not saying, you said the military works for the corporations, it's a one world government, globalization, and we're going to work with Russia and China to enslave all these countries.
02:46:35.000I came home, I was actually taping, it was two hours of one of those book club things where they had all these, Paul Krugman and all these guys that are putting all this stuff out about, true stuff about Bush.
02:46:47.000So I came home to watch that and I ended up waiting for an hour and a half watching that guy talk because I couldn't turn it off.
02:46:53.000Did you see the part where he was talking about the new, um, uh, what do you call it?
02:47:44.000Yeah, Dr. Breeding, just a few years ago, there's no global empire, there's no world government.
02:47:50.000Now I watched a Pentagon two-hour meeting.
02:47:52.000I watched like an hour and a half of it and turned it off, and it's just all about the world governments run by the corporations, and the military serves the corporations, and we're going to take over the planet, and Russia and China are going to help us.
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02:52:12.000We have a big fat link to his website on www.infowars.com.
02:52:16.000Go sign his petition that lets the globalists know we're not going to put up with their new freedom initiative and it'll help get some media attention and let the establishment know that we're not buying into what they're up to.
02:52:27.000It's up to all of us to educate everyone.
02:52:30.000Uh, Russia plans pre-emptive strikes against global terror bases.
02:52:33.000Russia is prepared to launch pre-emptive strikes on bases used for training militants anywhere in the world, as Senior General said Wednesday, after a joint Russia-NATO meeting in Brussels, uh, denounced the latest spat of attacks on Russia, soil that killed over 400 people.
02:52:52.000We've caught Putin blowing up his own buildings before, okay?
02:52:55.000And they now are going to merge with NATO and attack everybody.
02:52:58.000I mean, and this is what I saw from a month ago that re-aired this weekend with the Pentagon's new map with their, one of their top war, high priest of war up there.
02:53:09.000It's just, it's just all out in the open.
02:53:21.000John, I wanted to let you know I am reading the book, The Misunderstandings.
02:53:28.000True Nature and Great Misunderstandings.
02:53:30.000Yeah, and I want the listeners to know that this book is not just a book about drugs and about the New World Order and the corporate takeover.
02:53:39.000We all, as parents, have been somewhat misled through our upbringing.
02:53:45.000We weren't raised with the wisdom and the clarity That this man has and that he's offering us now.
02:53:52.000And I recommend this reading for anyone who has a kid, who has a kid, who's going to have kids, who has a kid who has kids, who knows anybody who has kids.
02:54:05.000Speaking of the picture, there's a picture of my daughter ten years ago on the cover of that book, and anybody who buys the book will have that picture as well.
02:54:12.000Well, it's a great book, and we carry both of them, and you get a big discount when you get both of them.
02:54:34.000on the safety of these drugs and determined that, well, while they do make kids want to kill themselves, nobody has killed themselves.
02:54:43.000So they're recommending that doctors warn the parents that these drugs might make your kids... Masses of people have committed suicide.
02:54:49.000I know that, and at one of John's fundraisers, there was a man up there, a father of a daughter who had hung herself after being on these drugs, and I thought, how can these guys It's like if I keep you in a closet, I sleep deprive you, I drip water on your head for six months, and you kill yourself, but you can't prove I killed you, so I didn't kill you, and that type of treatment doesn't cause suicide. - I hear you.
02:55:16.000Leon, welcome. - Thank you for taking my call, and I just wanted to say thank you, Dr. Breeding, for your information, and I wanted to make sure I got this right.
02:55:42.000Infowars.com is a picture of Dr. Breeding under a link to his website.
02:55:48.000Okay, well I just wanted to say you're right on.
02:55:51.000I am a I'm a retired psychiatric social worker and I can't say how much you are right on about how crazy it is and how we are being misled and it makes me not feel so bad because I feel sad and I'm upset about it.