Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, on this live Wednesday edition of The Alex Jones Show. On this edition, we have a surprise guest join us in the second hour, and then in the third hour, General Benton K. Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, will be on with us to talk about the first guest, Ivan the Terrible.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 15th day of September 2004.
00:00:33.000or On this live Wednesday edition, thank you for joining us.
00:00:38.000We have a surprise guest joining us in the second hour, and then in the third hour, General Benton K. Parton, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, will be on with us.
00:01:05.000Those are quotes out of the Houston Chronicle.
00:01:08.000More than 1.2 million people in metropolitan New Orleans were warned to get out yesterday as a 140 mile an hour hurricane, Ivan the Terrible, turned towards the Gulf Coast, threatened to submerge The below sea level city during what could be the most disastrous storm to hit in nearly 40 years.
00:01:30.000Paul Watson put this nice little comment at the top of it.
00:01:33.000Says, this is an interesting primer for future government scaremongering tactics where people are told that asteroids are going to strike.
00:01:41.000The fact that we're in 2004 and New Orleans flood defenses haven't been significantly bolstered to handle this sort of disaster makes even George Bush look confident in comparison.
00:02:26.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:02:31.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:02:38.000Alright, this Dr. Thomas Barnett is this Naval War College strategist, and he openly says that the military works for the big corporations, it's part of a global government, They're going to take over the planet.
00:03:46.000Okay, and he talks about Wall Street just loves me, and the Wall Street people understand this new rule set, and you know, we're going to have this global army, and it was open new world order.
00:03:58.000So we'll just talk about Mr. Barnett now.
00:04:00.000For those of you that saw him on C-SPAN, it's aired several times, and for those that witnessed this, we even got a tape of it.
00:04:08.000It's not been loaded into the computer, so we can't play it.
00:05:16.000The end of posse comitatus, all of it.
00:05:19.000And we'll go over it with General Benton K. Parton, who's been warning of this exact rule change, as they call it, with With the Pentagon and how he and himself and many others have been warning people within the Pentagon.
00:05:38.000But it's just outrageous that globalists will not come on and defend their ideas.
00:05:43.000They're all happy to do radio interviews until they find out that we're aware of the New World Order.
00:05:48.000That we're aware of this merger between our military, our government, with the Soviet Russians, which is still what they are, putting the Red Stars back on their vehicles.
00:05:58.000When they find out that we're against the merger with Communist China, when they find out that we're not for this New World Order model, they run!
00:06:07.000They don't jog away from us, they run away from us.
00:06:12.000So we were going to talk about the Pentagon's new map, the book, A Future Worth Creating, and you can read the pre-introduction storyboard, the director's commentary, you can go over
00:06:29.000the entire system they're building on his website thomas p m barnett dot com you can go look at what i witnessed on c-span and uh... wall street he admits is right behind him and loves his idea and he says the pentagon works for wall street works for the big banks it's just it's just everything we've already known right out the open but he chastised the pentagon when i was watching this on c-span
00:06:55.000Auditorium full of brass saying, you need to know that China's our friend and they're going to aid us.
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00:10:20.000Okay, I was going to have this Pentagon strategist, war thinker, guru on the show, Thomas P.M. guru on the show, Thomas P.M.
00:10:39.000Barnett, and then he said, I'm not coming on to the folks running the show, so I called him during the break, and he began cussing at me right off the bat, uh, telling me, you know, well I hope you sleep good at night, uh, you know, saying the CIA could have been behind Nick Berg.
00:10:56.000That's been mainstream news, by the way.
00:10:58.000Uh, yelling at me about saying the government had prior knowledge of 9-11.
00:11:02.000Well, half of New Yorkers think that, so I guess they're evil too.
00:11:21.000And I said, come on and defend your ideas.
00:11:22.000And he said, he said, I wouldn't dignify a show like yours.
00:11:28.000And so, we're going to research this guy even more, and we're going to expose some of the stuff that's going on.
00:11:33.000I mean, I watched this guy on C-SPAN last weekend, or actually a couple weekends ago, right when I got back from New York City.
00:11:42.000And he had these models of globalization, and China's our friend, and Russia's our friend, and we're going to merge together and fight the evil terrorist, and here's the new map, and we're going to go into Africa and the Middle East and take it over, and You know, all of this, and we work for the big corporations, the Pentagon works for the big corporations, that's who we work for, and Wall Street just loves me, and just so arrogant and pompous.
00:12:09.000It's hard to believe unless you witnessed it for yourself.
00:12:14.000But General Parton, it was going to come on in the third hour, now he says he'll come on at the bottom of this hour, a little bit early, because I wanted him to come on after Mr. Barnett, because everything General Parton has talked about, and what the Pentagon was going to shift into, and what was going to happen, is now happening.
00:12:33.000Decades ago, and of course he's a brigadier general, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, a veteran of multiple wars, and just a great patriot.
00:12:44.000And now we hear about Russia openly going to merge with NATO, NATO now with a global role, Russia saying it will have preemptive strikes around the planet, all of this, and I got a stack of mainstream articles about Russian intelligence involvement in the attacks on the school.
00:13:00.000We know the Russian government carried out the bombings in 1999 to get Putin into office as FSB was caught planting bombs in the fourth building.
00:13:07.000I mean, all we're doing is covering the facts.
00:13:10.000And there's people that are really upset out there about this.
00:13:13.000But this Barnett guy had been on my website.
00:13:16.000He was describing a bunch of stuff off of it and was very upset.
00:14:00.000I'm crazy, because I think the government had prior knowledge and was involved, and I started trying to go, well, what about the official government plans?
00:14:45.000But it must feel good, you know, just to be part of the establishment and to serve it and to, you know, think you've got everything set and you're on the winning side.
00:14:53.000Although the American people are going to win and the New World Order will be defeated.
00:14:58.000Let's go ahead and talk to Gil in Texas.
00:15:02.000Do you think there's a real possibility that the gentleman you had scheduled, maybe his handlers got to him and said, look, I'll make an offer you can't refuse.
00:15:11.000You go on that show and we'll demote you, or even worse, probably take him out.
00:15:38.000I was going to have Parton maybe go on the line a little bit early at the end of the interview to hear what the guy said and maybe bring him up, but not in the first part of the interview.
00:15:45.000The scheduling was for the third hour when Mr. Barnett would be gone, but I don't know.
00:16:16.000And in a rash, they've been closing down highways.
00:16:20.000And it seems like every week or every other week, there's some kind of incident where they have to shut the roads down.
00:16:27.000Do you think it's possible that the industrial complex has gotten with the The military and the police department, and this is a good way for them to start testing.
00:16:36.000I know that they have done thousands and thousands of drills all over the country.
00:16:42.000A lot of times they don't even tell us their drills until later when we force them to.
00:16:46.000Fake nuclear spills, all types of stuff.
00:16:48.000And yes, they're testing the martial law systems, preparing and getting everybody ready for it.
00:16:54.000Because every other week around here, every two or three weeks around here, there's some kind of road closure here in my area.
00:17:01.000Or there's a chemical spill, or there's been a ship that's been ran into and they have to close down the waterways because they have to clean up the spill.
00:17:08.000Well, I mean a lot of that's always happening down by Houston.
00:17:12.000I mean, a lot of that's probably real, but have they had drills down there?
00:17:41.000I mean, the Houston Chronicle has said Houston's a big target of Al-Siada and CIArabs.
00:17:49.000But would the chemical industry and the military industrial complex go that far as to kind of shoot their own self in the foot to test their military system?
00:17:58.000Well, by announcing all the time that the refineries are breaking down and out of date and there's not enough oil, they're able to jack up the prices.
00:18:17.000Always tell folks to They don't call it Divide and Conquer for nothing, so Mexican folks, black folks, Jewish folks, everybody in neighborhoods need to be good friends with everybody in case something's happening.
00:18:33.000We got water, everybody's got gardens, we've got emergency plans, and I want to see commercials where we see troops
00:18:43.000running towards something they're saying someone's yelling all right let's get these libraries built let's get these schools open let's get these gardens made all right let's get this water purified for people let's get everybody burn your water filters let's go doing stuff like that instead of always destroying and one of the secrets the so-called secrets of the esoteric secret societies is that
00:19:09.000They must become this thing most evil so that this great good will be realized.
00:19:15.000And through creating the most restrictive Orwellian society, microchips everything, that the human revolution against that will usher in this golden age.
00:19:27.000And I say, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
00:20:33.000But meanwhile, we catch the globalists funding and training the terrorists, proliferating the weapons, really creating crises.
00:20:42.000And that's their maxim, is order out of chaos.
00:20:45.000And yes, at the very highest levels of this whole skull and bones, esoteric, occult, mumbo-jumbo, That's their excuse, is we've got to bring in total evil to have the balance in the force, you know, kind of like the George Lucas line, between the dark side and the light.
00:21:00.000And by bringing in this great evil, then, you know, it will create this great movement of goodness against it, and then we'll finally have the Golden Age!
00:21:08.000And it's very, very dangerous and it's a rationalization.
00:21:12.000Really what they operate under is social Darwin views, or social Darwinist views, of we're the best, we're the smartest, that's why we're in control, it's our right to rule over these dumb people.
00:21:22.000And then they do everything they can to further dumb us down and go, oh look, see they're dumb, we've got to take care of them, we've got to be the social engineers.
00:21:30.000And so that's really what they're doing.
00:21:33.000All right, we'll come back and get to a bunch of other callers.
00:21:37.000Then we have General Benton K. Harden joining us to talk about his warnings of how they would try to shift the Pentagon into serving and working with what I call the Neo-Soviets in Russia and the commies in China.
00:21:53.000We've had the professors call in from China on the show where they're listening, trying to convince us how good China is.
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00:26:41.000Alex, I'm trying to get some information on a person by the name of Victor Ashe.
00:26:47.000Mayor of Victor Ashe, Nashville, Tennessee.
00:26:51.000Yeah, sounds to me like you've already got the information.
00:26:54.000Yeah, well, I read something on the internet.
00:26:57.000Sherman Skolnick, who's an investigative journalist, wrote an article about Victor Ashe.
00:27:07.000I said, you know, I betcha if anyone would know, Alex Jones would probably know.
00:27:13.000I don't know if what Kitty Kelly and Mr. Skolnick say is true, but they allege that him and Bush are special friends and I don't know if that's true, sir, and that's why I don't really get into it.
00:27:27.000Alright, well I'll do some more research and hopefully we can learn a little bit more.
00:27:42.000Hey, with all the talk of numerology regarding the New World Order and that and 9-1-1, I have kind of a theory I just wanted to run past you.
00:28:02.000Well, and you wonder, too, on that day, as clear of a day as it was, that what if that day would have been cloudy and overcast?
00:28:10.000It kind of lends credence that that had to be the day to stick in people's minds, and it just seems to add credence to the remote control possibilities of flying the planes into the towers in the Pentagon.
00:28:23.000Just kind of wondered what your thought was on that.
00:28:27.000I'm not quite getting what you're saying.
00:28:30.000Well, had these pilots, the terrorists supposedly, had the minimal capabilities to fly a plane.
00:28:39.000They needed the visual to come into New York and they had to pick an extremely clear day to pick up those towers from a distance.
00:28:47.000Now if it was an overcast day with low cloud cover and they were these amateur pilots supposedly, those people behind crashing The planes into the tower in the Pentagon weren't going to leave it up to their abilities to physically fly the planes in an overcast setting.
00:29:10.000I just go off the fact that on that morning, the CIA was running an exact drill of planes being flown into those structures, just magically by accident.
00:29:22.000And then we have NORAD standing down, and all these other points, and bin Laden's being flown out of the country.
00:29:27.000Then we have our internal sources, Stanley Hilton and others have deposed.
00:29:32.000These high-level military officers and others.
00:29:34.000We have FBI agents saying we were told to back off the Bin Laden's W1999.
00:29:39.000That's really the meat-and-potatoes proof we've got.
00:29:43.000Well, and the other part of it, too, is everything that I've read from real pilots, you know, saying that the aerobatics that these guys had to go through to bring these planes in, especially into the Pentagon, and hit that thing the way that they did, especially on final approach, You know, experienced pilots with 25 years experience wouldn't be able to do that.
00:30:04.000Well, the quotes I've seen is 9 out of 10 times they wouldn't be able to do the Pentagon Maneuver.
00:30:35.000And they're just... You can't trust them.
00:30:38.000And another thing that scares me is this big oil pipeline that is being run from Abu Dhabi, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong, into Georgia.
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00:35:33.000People running this country and running the planet created the communists, the Nazis.
00:35:38.000They create the centralized systems as Professor Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, admitted in his own 900-page book, Tragedy and Hope.
00:35:45.000They have set up their new world order.
00:35:59.000I remember I first interviewed him, I don't know, five or six years ago.
00:36:05.000And he always stressed, look, the Pentagon's going to come out with a plan, there's people pushing it, that China and Russia are friends, that they're not a threat, that we're going to have to work together to go into all these countries.
00:36:46.000But everything that Parton has talked about in the past and written about, written papers for the Pentagon on, is exactly what I was watching.
00:36:53.000This guy was chastising the brass for still thinking that China is a threat.
00:38:36.000Now, I want to read this before we go to General Parton, who I appreciate holding.
00:38:39.000This is from Professor Quigley's 1966 book, Tragedy and Hope.
00:38:46.000There does exist and has existed for a generation an international network which operates to some extent in the way the Radical Right believes the Communist Act.
00:38:54.000In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Roundtable Groups, CFR, Tribunal Commission, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists or any other groups and frequently does so.
00:39:04.000I know of their operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years in the early sixties to examine its papers and secret records.
00:39:13.000I have no aversion to it or most of its aims, and have, for much of my life, been close to it and many of its instruments.
00:39:19.000I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies, but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known, Professor Carl Quigley, in his book, Tragedy and Hope.
00:39:34.000In his first State of the Union, Bill Clinton said, I owe it all to this man, he's my mentor, the head of Political Science Department at Georgetown University.
00:39:42.000Now, Again, in the final model of what the Communists said they would do, part of their program, as General Parton has laid it out, and as my own research has shown, again, this is all controlled by big financial interests that want to use Communist terror to take over countries.
00:40:00.000Now they call it, you know, globalism.
00:40:04.000Their plan is to take over every country in the world, and they're going to use the threat of terrorism to do it, and they are doing it right now.
00:40:13.000And it is horrible to watch it happening, to watch Russia going into NATO, to watch NATO going global, to watch all this develop.
00:40:21.000And the real expert on this is General Partin, joining us a little bit early on the show today.
00:40:32.000I know you're not too familiar with Barnett himself, you've done some research, but this whole group in the Pentagon that is You know, saying China and Russia are good buddies, and shifting us into this new model, saying China isn't communist, chastising the true conservatives in the Pentagon.
00:40:51.000Can you give us the real map of the world, General?
00:40:55.000Look, I haven't written much of Barnett's paper, but you don't have to get into but a few hundred words before you can see that he's mouthing The global program that the communist world laid out back after World War II.
00:41:13.000Excuse me, after World War I. Now look, Alex, I ran into the same sort of thing, gosh, 30, 40 years ago when I was at the War College myself.
00:41:25.000I had turned out a book on the Sino-Soviet split.
00:41:28.000And I did the first-class operations research kind of techniques, and I proved without question the sign of the Soviet split was one of the highest payoff operations that the Soviet Union ever got into.
00:41:40.000And Anatoly Golitsyn, 17 years later, came out with a book, New Lives for All, and he said the sign of the Soviet split was a strategic disinformation program.
00:41:51.000And then 27 years after I did my book, he wrote this book, The Sino- what was it?
00:42:02.000And he said, not only was it the key dis- it was the key disinformation program on which all other disinformation programs depended.
00:42:10.000It was rather interesting at that time, you know, if you'd done a dissertation or thesis, you didn't have to do another one at the War College.
00:42:18.000And so I did one on this Sino-Soviet split thing.
00:42:22.000And it was, that's almost a 200 book, extensively documented.
00:42:26.000And I tried to, my faculty advisor wanted to distribute it very extensively.
00:42:31.000Well, the little group, the little think tank groups like you have down at the War College, at the Naval War College, they had one guy in that group who was a propagandist for the sign of the Soviet Spring.
00:42:42.000So it didn't get distributed, but you know, three or four copies went out.
00:42:45.000You can get a copy of the the Library of Maxwell, you can get a copy from the Air Force Academy Library, but there's very few that were published.
00:42:54.000But at the same time, I did a paper on, a statistical paper.
00:42:59.000You had to write two articles for publication, and that was dealing with, was really an extension of wall sequential sampling theory.
00:43:09.000No one on earth in the Air Force should be interested in that if they weren't in quality control or sequential testing of expensive items.
00:43:17.000But my gosh, that thing was distributed in dozens all over the place.
00:43:21.000And one guy in there, when my faculty advisor wanted him to print it in the annual, the quarterly publication that came out of the War College, They said, well, we were planning to publish an article to the contrary thesis of the legitimacy and irreversibility of the sign of service.
00:43:39.000So, one guy was able to turn things around to keep that information from getting out, but Glitzen, who was in the Soviet Union, trained in the Soviet Union, when he was posted to Finland, he defected to the United States, and you know, he served as an advisor to the CIA for a long time.
00:43:55.000But, it just shows you that Some of these think tanks and people out there get way off on the wrong foot.
00:44:04.000The seminal document on terrorism to this day.
00:44:08.000The seminal document was a document written by Leon Trotsky when he was head of the Soviet military in 1922.
00:44:16.000That's the basic document on terrorism.
00:44:19.000That's how the Soviets have operated and are still operating.
00:44:23.000Last year they put the Red Stars back on their uniforms and back on their tanks and helicopters.
00:44:28.000And they have never taken the USSR logo off their media headings.
00:44:35.000But anyway, the Sino-Soviet split was a strategic disinformation program and it was one of the highest payoffs Well, let me stop you.
00:44:48.000You're using all these technical terms.
00:44:50.000Brigadier General, former head of Air Force Weapons Development.
00:44:53.000General, we need to be specific with listeners, even with myself, with these complex terms and issues that are whole areas of study and research.
00:45:01.000I mean, every word you're using is a four-year degree.
00:45:05.000I'm sitting here for two hours, two weekends ago, watching this Thomas Barnett guy, word for word, say everything you've said, but flipping it around and saying it's good.
00:45:33.000We're going to go into the whole planet with them.
00:45:36.000All of this, and I'm watching this with my mouth hanging open, Can you speak specifically, because a lot of these guys, it showed the brass, they were nodding and loving it.
00:45:47.000Some looked like they were about to have a heart attack watching this guy, but this is the dominant model that Bush and Rumsfeld and Kerry and all of them are pushing and promoting.
00:45:59.000Well, irrespective of who's pushing what, let me just give you the facts, and these facts are very predictable.
00:46:08.000Give us the real world map of what's happening.
00:46:11.000Well, let me give you just a quick outline, and I've been using this chart for the last ten years around, and discussing the subject, the very subject you're talking about.
00:46:21.000And I go right back to the 1928 program, and when the Communist International, the third international, it wasn't the first, it wasn't the second, it was the third international, it was the Lenin International, was set up in 1919.
00:46:36.000They set up a think tank group of their best and brightest from around the world, To come up with what they call the program of the Third International, designed to transform every square inch of the world into this New World Order.
00:48:16.000Again, everything you wrote about decades ago, everything you said would happen, happened, and now NATO is merging with Russia, now their planners are all over TV telling us this is good, they're shifting the Pentagon in domestically to control the populations, it's all happening.
00:48:34.000But all those predictions, well I have distributed a report, Deadly Failures and Intelligence Analysis, and I took from that book all the findings and conclusions and recommendations and extrapolations based on the fact that they were still following the 1928 program.
00:48:50.000But this proves your thesis because your roadmap, now decades old, has been exactly what's happened.
00:48:56.000Now let me give you the roadmap in the future.
00:49:35.000If you read their party literature and leftist stuff today, you'll find they are claiming they have slipped a few years.
00:49:42.000But then the exact same program is brought forward by the so-called capitalist states with their globalization or their new world order, and then we catch the big banks funding the communists.
00:50:50.000Remember we had a declaration of interdependence passed by many members of the Congress decades ago.
00:50:58.000Then you have the withering away of the state because you have this global structure and you move into what they call regional government.
00:51:06.000You have a global hierarchy of regional government to give you what they call in this world program World Communism, or a New World Order, and this is a world without nations, a world without nationalities, a world without borders, a world without war, and a world without competition.
00:51:26.000And from that you develop the great socialist man, the Soviet man.
00:52:26.000But General Parton, if people look at the public program, it's exactly what's happened, and then we've got all the so-called conservatives out there promoting it.
00:52:34.000You name me one four-star general, one governor, one senator who's ever known anything about the program of the Third International.
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00:56:26.000He's done an incredible job defending this country.
00:56:30.000and some people get confused by this whole term communist but you notice that when McCarthy then accused the army of being involved in this and accused Wall Street of being involved which now has been publicly proven uh... they totally freaked out and finally went after him and it was just oh it's the leftists and oh it's the communists and oh you know it's just these little small groups doing this it was fine and dandy but when the big picture came out
00:56:56.000That it was big financial interest behind this to have this criminal consolidation.
00:57:46.000Because, you know, they Both parties, all these governments, they're carrying out the program, and the few countries that aren't are being attacked and being called terrorists.
00:57:58.000Well, you can't say any country is not, because the 1928 program targeted every country in the world.
00:58:07.000And they identified the strategy to be used with those countries.
00:58:11.000And they have been carrying them out ever since.
00:59:14.000The crisis of the environment, like other crises, has its roots in the inherent characteristic of capitalism.
00:59:20.000The drive for private profits, which insists on the exploitation and racism, and promotes war and domestic violence, also includes an utterly reckless disregard for natural resources and the consequent contamination of the environment.
00:59:35.000What country out there has had more contamination of their environment than the former Soviet Union?
00:59:40.000The ultimate solution, this is over in the middle of the book, he says, the ultimate solution, of course, is the creation of a planned society in which the quest for profits has been abolished And the results of our science and technology are used for the benefits of the masses of the people of our nation.
00:59:55.000Now, listen to the last thing, last thing he says in the book.
00:59:58.000He says, it is hoped that this book will be a factor in helping the millions who are getting the experience of struggle in the movement against pollution to become a new force in the transition from capitalism to socialism.
01:00:15.000The well-meaning people that are out there trying to stop degradation of the environment, that's legitimate.
01:00:21.000But when I go to these smart growth conferences, these environmental conferences, it's the big banks, it's the military, it's the government.
01:00:28.000It's being used to criminally consolidate and destroy the general public, being able to have private property.
01:00:38.000To expand a global government to regulate and control that, General?
01:00:42.000Look, you will not find the communist program, or people active in this socialist internationalism, you will not find them participating in anything that you cannot find some legitimate support.
01:01:19.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:01:23.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:01:27.000We're talking to a man who served his country for decades, former head of Air Force Weapons Development, Brigadier General Benton K. Barton.
01:01:40.000Helped expose the reality of what happened at Oklahoma City under Lord Clinton.
01:01:47.000And, again, for decades he has been exposing the program of what I call the globalists.
01:01:54.000But again, he points out that the communists are the ones that came forward with this.
01:01:57.000But I point out that international banking funding created this.
01:02:03.000And the leftists won't wake up to this until you point out to them that big corporations are for globalism and are for the communist plan, and at that minute we can deprogram them.
01:02:14.000If we have this argument in a left-right debate, instead of a freedom versus slavery debate, they never wake up.
01:02:22.000But I have found that if you show them that the big money that's not free market is behind communism, that this is organized crime, they will wake up.
01:02:31.000General Parton, can you speak to what I've just said, or do you agree with that?
01:02:34.000Well, the program of the Third International calls for the establishment of a global Fed.
01:03:26.000I know you win them all the time over a period of time, but it is a matter of exposing people to information and keep feeding it to them gradually, and they'll finally turn around.
01:03:36.000But it's very, very difficult to win a political argument because each of you are arguing your own points and not seeing what the other one is saying.
01:03:52.000And the biggest problem we have, one of the biggest problems we have in this country today, is that good people have abandoned the political process.
01:03:59.000And you won't find a church out there who doesn't, say, discourage people from participating in the political process.
01:04:04.000In fact, I invited an associate pastor to go to a meeting with me one time.
01:04:09.000At the time, I was chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee, which is the biggest political organization in the state and in the country at the time.
01:04:16.000There were two congressional districts.
01:04:18.000And the pastor, his boss, said, I don't want my people involved in anything outside of the church.
01:04:25.000Or does he think he's going to sustain his freedom to still run his church?
01:04:29.000No, you're right, but the World Council of Churches set up by Rockefellers... That's a front organization.
01:04:38.000They've taken over that organization so many years ago.
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01:09:31.000Here's Fabian socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928.
01:09:40.000Under socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor.
01:09:43.000You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed, whether you like it or not.
01:09:49.000If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner.
01:10:01.000And here's a Senate report, March 9th, 1933.
01:10:04.000The United States has been in a state of national emergency.
01:10:07.000A majority of the people of the United States have had their lives under emergency rule for 40 years.
01:10:12.000Freedoms and government procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws Brought forth by States of National Emergency, Senate Report 93-549, 1973.
01:10:25.000Here's Aldous Huxley's brother, Julian Huxley, Sir Julian Huxley, First Director General of UNESCO.
01:10:34.000Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO, that Bush has signed back onto, to see that the eugenics problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of these issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.
01:11:00.000And General Partin, I want to get a clear answer from you on this, because this is what a lot of people don't understand.
01:11:06.000Big money, big banks, some of the oldest and richest families in the world were involved with the seed money for communism, that's admitted.
01:11:15.000They have been involved bolstering it and supporting it throughout its development, through setting up the UN, through putting communists in charge of it.
01:11:23.000Can you explain to us this paradigm for people out there that are listening?
01:11:29.000Well, the people with money out there, it doesn't mean that they earned that money from grassroots or growth capital kind of a way.
01:11:40.000Many of them have been spoon-fed, just like Cecil Rhodes.
01:11:44.000He was operating, he did a lot of things all over the world back there, setting up some of the leftist think tanks.
01:11:51.000But he was operating with Rothschild money.
01:11:55.000There's no question about the big money out there.
01:11:57.000A lot of the industry is set up in this country.
01:11:59.000The multinational corporations set up back there.
01:12:03.000The first half of this century, many of them were set up to provide the seed bases for this world socialist division of labor way downstream.
01:12:12.000So the leftists, the grassroots leftists, I talk to them, they don't get this, but when I'm able to show them elitist-owned autobiographies where they brag that the big money uses communism to criminally consolidate wealth, I'm able to deprogram them on this point.
01:12:27.000That's what I'm bringing up to you, General.
01:12:29.000Yeah, but you see, some of those people who have that big money are not going to be deprogrammed by you because they're part of the system.
01:12:35.000Oh no, I'm not talking about big money people.
01:12:37.000No, no, they love it and they understand and hate our guts.
01:12:39.000I'm talking about the grassroots not being fooled by them anymore.
01:12:46.000The grassroots people out there are really not informed about enough of a broad set of things to talk about the things we're trying to talk about here in this program.
01:12:58.000Because there's nowhere, no place, they're fed that information.
01:13:02.000I wasn't fed it, even in the military and all the military schools that I went to and all the education I had.
01:13:07.000I never surfaced any of this thing except through my own independent studies.
01:13:16.000But it's just off the mainstream press.
01:13:20.000And there's nobody out there, it's just like you're a guy who wouldn't come on with you today because you've been taking a position that's politically incorrect.
01:13:28.000And what is politically incorrect is anything that's been contrary to the program of the Third International.
01:13:35.000What's your basis for identifying something that's politically incorrect?
01:13:38.000Go to the program of the Third International.
01:13:39.000That's the only basis you've really got for it.
01:13:46.000I want to go to some calls here in a few minutes for everybody that's been patiently holding, but General Partin, you talk about where they're up to now, how they admit they're three or four years behind schedule.
01:13:56.000You were reading quotes where the Communists said, we will use terrorism to centralize power, to centralize government, so we have levers to take control of, and that's clearly what's happening.
01:14:07.000Go back into how they use terrorism, and then I want to talk about What their program will look like if they get it in place and how far away we are from that.
01:14:16.000Let me quote a few more things from Trotsky's book.
01:14:20.000Go back and re-quote that about the New World Order for us.
01:14:23.000He calls it enemies of the New World Order.
01:14:53.000It exploits the flabbiness, rottenness, and helplessness of the middle classes and their parties.
01:15:02.000I'd like to make a reference right here to the Abu Ghraib prison over in Iraq.
01:15:07.000I don't know anything that is the biggest loss we have ever had over in the Middle East was the exposing and what went on and what was exposed at Abercrombie.
01:15:17.000They not only did what they did in harassing prisoners or Abusing prisoners.
01:15:22.000They photographed it, and then they spread those photographs to the world.
01:15:30.000I agree with you, and it's clear now, it's come out, that there were multiple intelligence agencies in there ordering them to do it with the express purpose of releasing it to make America look like the bad cop, so now the UN can come in and play the part of the good cop.
01:15:46.000And anybody who has any knowledge of what you do in this sort of intelligence work out there and debriefing prisoners knew the psycho-political aspects of that, that it was done and planned by people who had a lot more sense about the intelligence business and all the psychopolitical things than those poor GIs down there.
01:16:07.000And they admit they were, and the general says, don't blame me, I wasn't even allowed in those wings where these contractors were ordering our troops to do this.
01:16:13.000But on the bigger picture here, pulling away from this, understand, folks, that, again, CBS released that.
01:16:22.000The government army reports admitted it.
01:16:24.000This was meant, we have Rumsfeld's own P2OG documents where he says, we're going to do stuff to enrage the Arabs so we can escalate a wider war.
01:16:34.000Let's go in and quote some of these other things here.
01:16:41.000I know there's a lot you can't get into because of your position, but... It exploits the flabbiness, rottenness, and helplessness of the middle classes and their parties.
01:17:32.000And by the way, General, I'm sure you're aware mainstream news is having a report that clearly Putin's people are behind this just like he blew up the buildings in 99 and that they left their special forces out the back door and are now going to have a show trial of some patsy.
01:17:52.000Can you speak about what you think happened at the school?
01:17:55.000I don't know what specifically happened over there.
01:18:03.000Anything that I would say would be supposition and I don't care to get into speculation on things like that.
01:18:08.000Well, the evidence has now just come out in the last few days that officials, locals, people in the Russian government and the media are saying this was an inside job.
01:18:48.000There was an inside job down there of the left to get rid of the publisher who was a big leftist down there, Chamorro.
01:18:58.000And to launch a lot of things in the revolution down there.
01:19:03.000In Colombia, Castro, Del Pino, and one other guy went down and arranged the assassination of the head of the party, left-wing party, liberal party, out of power, and blamed it immediately on the conservative government.
01:19:16.000And they started burning and sacking Bogota.
01:19:20.000So those guys, they can trigger anything they want to to precipitate a reaction.
01:19:28.000And they can do it from inside, they can do it from outside, they can get somebody to do it.
01:19:32.000Just like the guy they engaged to do the killing of Dr. Gatton down in Columbia.
01:19:36.000They immediately killed the guy they got to kill him.
01:19:40.000And drug him around Bogota, behind a vehicle.
01:19:42.000You know, you don't hear much about South Africa now.
01:19:47.000You don't hear anything about the apartheid in South Africa.
01:19:51.000And I remember in this gentleman's article by Barnett, They're talking about South Africa now being a viable country down there, and the core values and all this stuff.
01:20:06.000But South Africa is now headed by a Communist.
01:20:10.000And you know, the War of National Liberation, which is a three-stage thing, you have the long-term preparatory phase, the period of escalating violence, and then in the period of exploitation, you use that country as a base of operation against the next target countries.
01:20:24.000Well, when Mandela was freed from jail, that was the beginning of the period of escalating violence.
01:20:29.000And it went up to the time he became president.
01:20:32.000And in that short period of time, just a few years, there were about 18,000 homicides in South Africa.
01:20:40.000Remember when they were having all the necklacing?
01:20:42.000Ed Barnett is now calling South Africa the model base for the takeover of Africa, which meshes with somebody else's plan, and you've got a communist in government, and we've got the Pentagon saying commies are good!
01:20:55.000Now, but look what has happened since Mandela stepped down.
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01:25:15.000All right, General Parton, again, honored to have you.
01:25:28.000You were completing a statement you were making when we hit that last break.
01:25:32.000Well, I was making a point about South Africa.
01:25:34.000Again, it was played up, you know, as a model for participating in this New World Order.
01:25:39.000And I'd indicated earlier, they killed, there were 18,000 homicides during that period of escalating violence.
01:25:45.000That's when Mandela was, before he became president and after he got out of jail.
01:25:51.000And that was 18,000 over about one, four, five years.
01:25:57.000Today, the homicide rate in South Africa is, according to the official police reports in South Africa, is running about 25,000 a year.
01:26:11.000But the Interpol, the French group, says that the Homicide level rate in South Africa today is about 50,000 a year.
01:26:20.000And by the way, most of that is racially motivated.
01:26:23.000It's whites, but now the media doesn't talk about it.
01:26:26.000Well, it's not mostly... Most of the people back there before it was black-on-black violence.
01:26:32.000All I've read is that attacks on whites, racially motivated, have escalated.
01:26:39.000But the numbers of people involved here You know, Brutal AZ was head of a big hunk of that country and he was promising they would have a separate state.
01:26:49.000But they reneged on that and nothing was done about it.
01:26:52.000So, many of those people who are being killed, most of them are black.
01:27:13.000A chart that shows the level of violence as a function of the stages of the war of national liberation.
01:27:19.000And for South Africa, they're well off the chart.
01:27:23.000So how can the Pentagon be saying that this is a model country?
01:27:28.000Well, is the Pentagon saying that, or is this guy who wrote this report?
01:27:31.000Well, I know Barnett is, but a lot of others are saying that.
01:27:34.000I mean, this map is what's being pushed by a lot of the top brass and people in government.
01:27:39.000Well, they've been pushing this expeditionary warfare for a long time.
01:27:46.000And with the precision-guided weapons and the capabilities you have, you can do a lot of things differently than you used to.
01:27:54.000My gosh, I think we had the 7th Air Force over in Vietnam.
01:27:57.000If you had a couple of A-10s with that kind of capability, you could probably kill more trucks on the Ho Chi Minh Trail than the whole 7th Air Force.
01:28:04.000There's been a big revolution in air power with precision-guided weapons.
01:28:09.000So looking at the Pentagon's new map, you know, these zones, China, Russia, aren't in it.
01:28:14.000They're our friends now, and a lot of these so-called countries that are in the map to be attacked are just countries that aren't part of the New World Order.
01:28:37.000The control of money, a global Fed and a global bank, which in its cursory stages is really the World Bank and the IMF.
01:28:50.000Well, we're now going into the free trade area of the Americas, and they're even talking about making Miami or Atlanta the capital, openly merging our social security with the entire hemisphere, our governments, our police, and the average American, General Parton, has no idea that's happening!
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01:34:02.000All right, we're back live, my friend.
01:34:16.000We've been all over the map talking about the globalist program.
01:34:19.000You can call it the communist program because that's where it came from, but it's clearly funded by the big criminal banks that are not free market and want you to be their slaves.
01:34:27.000We're talking to General Benton K. Parton.
01:34:30.000General, what will this program look like if it succeeds?
01:34:35.000If they got their way globally, what would life be like under it, and what's the time frame?
01:34:49.000You know, I think this is one thing that discourages a lot of people who think everything's going to happen tomorrow, and it isn't.
01:34:55.000If you look at the things that I spelled out back there, the sequence of things that still have to go, from this world commonwealth of independent states, to this globalism, interdependence, the withering away of the state, and regional governments, to this ultimate, what they call, new world order, this world without nations, nationalities, and borders, But, you know, the United States is sitting primed and cocked right now to have a major expansion of the terrorist effort in this country.
01:35:22.000You have the presidential directives back there going back to Nixon, I guess, to break down this country and to regional governments bypassing the state, which sort of conforms with that last stage of things.
01:35:33.000Remember, this global hierarchy of regional governments.
01:35:36.000By the way, Putin's going to the same color coding and going to the same 10 regional governors.
01:35:41.000Yeah, but they can talk about it and do all kinds of things out there to make it sound wonderful and convert to just get you and the people to accept What they're moving toward in the New World Order.
01:36:02.000How can Mr. Barnett get up on C-SPAN in front of the Pentagon's brass and say, the Pentagon's wrong, some of you still won't listen, China's our friend, they're not a threat.
01:36:13.000I mean, how, when they're threatening to nuke us on a monthly basis, how can he get away with that?
01:36:17.000Well, why does he get invited over there?
01:36:25.000I'll respond to your question with another question.
01:36:27.000For the last several years, you've had the head of the House Armed Services Committee, Porter Goss, head of the House, not the Armed Services Committee, but the House Intelligence Committee, sitting in the catbird seat to oversee the intelligence organization in this country.
01:36:45.000If there's anybody out there who has been in a position to force a reform in the bad things in the intelligence community, it's that guy.
01:36:54.000Now he's being put up and recommended to be the new chief of the CIA.
01:36:59.000Because he did a good job keeping the bad system in place?
01:37:03.000I don't know, but I say if anybody was sitting in a position to reform things and solve the problems, he was over the last several years in that position as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
01:38:14.000Will it be the next week or the next year?
01:38:17.000Will it be when we are totally disarmed?
01:38:20.000And when a British Guard shall be stationed in every house?
01:38:24.000Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction?
01:38:28.000Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
01:38:40.000Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those which the God of nature has placed in our power, millions of people armed in the holy cause of liberty and in such a country as that which we possess are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.
01:38:58.000Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone.
01:39:01.000There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations and who will raise up friends who fight our battles for us.
01:39:09.000The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone.
01:39:12.000It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
01:40:08.000We've got to be fair to the other callers.
01:40:10.000We're going to go to other callers here in a second.
01:40:12.000I would just add to that that if they take over, if they set up the police state, If they start the roundups, we'll have to obviously physically fight.
01:40:19.000We're trying to avert that, and at this point right now, that's exactly what the New World Order crowd wants, is violence.
01:40:26.000They want us to move and to create a smokescreen for their takeover.
01:40:32.000Well, you know, Waco and Ruby Ridge generated the militia movement in this country.
01:40:38.000And in the bombing of Oklahoma, it destroyed the organized effort in the militia out there for the simple reason when they bombed Oklahoma.
01:40:47.000They had McVeigh as a patsy in the operation, and he was labeled as a militia guy, which he never was.
01:40:55.000And so that really disbanded the militia crowd out there.
01:40:59.000So, you've got to win this fight in the political process.
01:41:14.000You've got to win in the political process, and the American people can do it now, but they have to take back the political process at the grassroots.
01:41:27.000In the local area, with the indigenous population, so if we do lose this battle, and if they do capture us, then we have to move into the Minuteman scenario.
01:41:38.000Well, if you do it right, you will never have to.
01:41:42.000Let's go ahead, and we're trying to avert that, folks, but if it does happen, we're going to win, and we're not going to stop, and everybody knows that.
01:41:48.000And you know that too, Gloveless, don't you?
01:41:50.000That's why you want our guns so bad, you pieces of filth.
01:41:52.000All right, let's go ahead and talk to Dave in Illinois.
01:41:59.000Thanks for your ongoing service to the country, and yours too, Alex.
01:42:02.000I just want to make a quick statement.
01:42:05.000You know, I wish they'd use the big ol' microwave oven protester cookers, the active denial system, to maybe try and detonate some of those improvised explosive devices in Iraq.
01:42:15.000You know, save the poor commutant soldiers You know, but they probably won't do that because they want their martyrs.
01:42:22.000But, you know, I see Abu Ghraib just going to stir up Iran.
01:42:32.000Talking about Africa, I see that as social engineering, you know.
01:42:37.000Uh, in the Sudan, they've already got money in the Department of Defense allocated for the Sudan, you know, and they're just dragging their heels, you know, so they can get their genocide going, so they can come in as the big hero.
01:42:49.000And, um, my only question to the General would be, um, do you see anything, uh, related to the compassionate communism they're trying to bring in with the...
01:43:02.000The United States Joint Forces Command... Let me stop you right there.
01:43:06.000Those are a lot of questions, a lot of good points.
01:43:08.000Bush calls himself, in his campaign in 2000, a communitarian.
01:43:12.000Fifteen-year-old dictionary said, one who believes in communist systems of government.
01:43:51.000But you can go to your present dictionary and look it up.
01:43:53.000It doesn't say anything like the dictionary 20 or 30 years ago.
01:43:58.000Let me make another point quickly, a point you ought to make every time you have an opportunity.
01:44:03.000This business of just church and state separation, you don't hear anybody...
01:44:13.000The separation of church and state is in all three of the Soviet Union constitutions.
01:44:18.000All three of them call for the separation of church and state, the separation of church and school, and the right of all citizens and the government to conduct anti-religious propaganda.
01:44:30.000That's where separation of church and state comes from.
01:44:32.000And to explain it, the First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, and then the press and assembly and all that.
01:44:43.000So the government isn't supposed to be involved in religion, not that we're not supposed to be free to be involved in the government with our religion?
01:44:51.000Well, they want to establish an atheistic world out there, and they're trying to use that phony thing which came out of the Sobey Constitution and interpret it in our American Constitution as containing that, and it isn't at all.
01:45:15.000General, as Alex mentioned earlier, we know that Jacob Schiff, when he worked for Kuhn Low, basically acting as a front man for the Rothschilds, probably, to finance the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.
01:45:55.000The communist world moved to take over and train people in Western Eastern Europe many years ago to either go out and liquidate or take over all the Mafia organizations in the world.
01:46:07.000Yeah, the New World Order is a society of organized criminals working for a world government to cage us and feed on us at their leisure.
01:46:16.000Is it fair to say that this is headquartered in the city of London?
01:46:52.000Then it gets put under other names and other policies and other think tanks and other movements, but it's all the same handbook, basically plagiarized under other names.
01:47:02.000Just like Marion Barry here is the mayor of Washington for a long time, and he just won in his district, so apparently he's going to be back on the board in the District of Washington.
01:47:11.000But he changed his middle name from Myron S. Berry many, many years ago when he was trying to be a street revolutionary to Myron S. Berry, and S was for Chalepin, and Chalepin at the time was the chief theoretician of the Communist Party in Russia.
01:47:27.000Have you written anything recently or are you planning anything to kind of help wake up the public?
01:47:34.000I've been doing a lot of talk shows on this subject, and I am working on some things too.
01:47:37.000Well, General Parton, I would like to invite you to write a 10 page, 50 page report, 100 page if you want, 500 if you want, and we'll post it on InfoWars.com.
01:47:46.000We have millions of readers, conservatively.
01:49:03.000Look, there isn't a country out there that doesn't have some involvement in this, that doesn't have some penetration in this, or organization in people who organized it.
01:49:12.000Look, they've been going for 75 years?
01:49:45.000General Parton, those quotes from Trotsky could have come out of Mein Kampf.
01:49:50.000But aside from that, There are three things that concern me.
01:49:54.000Number one, a couple of weeks ago, the Iranian Defense Minister described the forces of the U.S.
01:49:59.000in the Middle East, and Iraq specifically, as hostages of the Iranians.
01:50:04.000Secondly, you've got a staged conflict being created right now between the Georgian Republic and the Russian Republic, which is consistent with the Soviet global war doctrine.
01:50:15.000And you've got a program of Domestic terrorism in the Soviet Union, or Russia, the Russian Republic right now, being run by the internal security network, theoretically, and Alex believes that's the case.
01:50:29.000Stanislav Dunyav, one of the highest ranking intelligence officers from the Soviet Union, warned in his book, In the Eye of the Enemy, that this is precisely what we would see preliminary to a comprehensive Chinese-Russian strategic attack on the West, of course targeted on the continental U.S.
01:50:50.000Could it be more imminent than we think?
01:50:53.000I believe they're going to use sandbags and use the political and the terror angle, General.
01:50:57.000The communist world has always moved very conservatively.
01:51:01.000How many times have you seen them really fail and fall flat on their face?
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01:57:29.000You know, I remember back in the time of Sputnik.
01:57:33.000I was at the ballistic research laboratories at the time, and they had this little small program, the civilians, the civilian program looking to put a satellite in orbit.
01:57:42.000And General Madarius down in Huntsville, Alabama, had a three-stage device ready to put in orbit 18 months ahead of the Russians, 18 months.
01:57:54.000And Maxwell Taylor called him and said, I'm holding you personally responsible to assure that the third stage of that device is enacted We can't support, we can't scoop the Vanguard program.
01:58:09.000And the Russians went ahead and put Sputnik up 18 months ahead of the United States.
01:58:14.000And our government always caught arming them with the latest technologies.
01:58:21.000I want to thank you and General Parton, just like the other callers did, because without you I think we'd already be in the FEMA detention centers.
01:58:28.000When I lead people to your website, I just plant seeds and I ask rhetorical questions, Socratic method.
01:58:33.000I get them finding the conflicts and, you know, let the media present to them and so forth.
01:58:37.000And then I afterwards, over a daily, weekly basis, I ask them for feedback.
01:58:41.000To try to get a sense of what they're walking away with out of your website.
01:58:45.000And I wanted to make a suggestion for whatever it's worth.
01:58:47.000You talk about the gun control works, the mass murders, I'll agree.
01:58:50.000If you could bring in the Rothschilds and a greater emphasis on the Rothschilds, like where you have the pictures of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.
01:58:58.000If you could bring in that the Rothschilds have been at the top of it all, on the basic approach that when one puts together a puzzle that's a thousand pieces, it's easier generally if you can get all the outside pieces that have a straight edge or a square edge If they can see that the Rothschilds are at the top, that can clear up a lot of the confusion.
01:59:38.000Well, let me encourage all your listeners out there that they have to get involved in the political process at the grassroots level and take this country back.
01:59:47.000You can't take the top back until you take the bottom down back.