Alex Jones sits down with Erskine to talk about the Iraq War, the hurricane, the election and much more. Big Brother and the media cover up the truth about what is going on in Iraq and how we should be dealing with it.
00:00:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:23.000Sitting in for Alex Jones tonight, as if anyone can sit in this morning, is Erskine, and it's a pleasure, and Alex will be back with you on Monday.
00:00:32.000Alex will definitely be back on Monday.
00:01:32.000The man is obviously, when they're talking about testing people for mental health, maybe they could test Mr. Rumsfeld, or else he's been taking too much of his own aspartame since he was the man who passed that and got it through.
00:01:47.000On two occasions Friday, he said, Saddam Hussein, if he's alive, probably ordered the murder of the people in northern Iraq.
00:02:01.000Mr. Rumsfeld, Saddam Hussein is alive and we've got him.
00:02:05.000Or at least that's what you're telling everybody.
00:02:08.000Two different occasions Mr. Rumsfeld was talking about Saddam Hussein, if he's alive.
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00:07:25.000It covers the history of government-sponsored terrorism, the police state and homeland security, the nightmare UN population control programs, the cashless society control grid, satellite tracking and plannable microchips, and much, much more.
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00:08:30.000And also his police state videos 1, 2, and 3.
00:08:34.000The American dictator staged election 2004.
00:08:38.000Not only are they staging the elections, but they have the elections to where no matter what happens, they can certainly rig the elections.
00:08:45.000Do you really believe that President Bush has the commanding lead that they're saying he does in some of these polls?
00:08:52.000Well, we may better be thankful that he does, because if he didn't, who knows what type of tactics some of these people may be using.
00:09:00.000But just in case it doesn't work, you've got a few, very few manufacturers who have complete control of all of the voting machines.
00:09:09.000They know how to, and they aren't giving anybody any information about the proprietary information on how the voting machines are operating.
00:09:19.000That is, the new electronic voting machines.
00:09:22.000Most of them have two-way modems in them, so no matter how you vote, they can change the voting on you.
00:09:29.000So, it really is exactly like Stalin said, I don't care how a person votes, what I care about is the person who checks the machines, who counts the votes.
00:09:43.000I don't care how a person votes, I care more about How?
00:09:49.000Huntsville, Alabama, they talked about the three companies certified the nation's voting technology separate in secrecy and refused to discuss flaws in the ATM-like machines to be used by nearly one in three voters in November.
00:10:02.000Despite concerns over whether the so-called touchscreen machines can be trusted, the testing companies won't say publicly if they've encountered shoddy workmanship.
00:10:12.000They say they're committed to secrecy in their contracts with voting machine makers, even though tax money buys or leases these machines.
00:10:20.000It's absolutely insane that they will not talk about the technology, testing, or anything else that goes into the machines.
00:10:27.000One of the companies that makes these voting machines is owned by Microsoft.
00:10:30.000One of the companies is owned by the Carlyle Group.
00:10:33.000You've got Diebold, which has already announced that Republicans will win anywhere they have die-bold machines.
00:10:44.000Let's talk a little bit more about Iraq.
00:10:46.000We were talking a little bit about that.
00:10:48.000Two Americans, one Brit, kidnapped last night in Iraq, which is a horrible situation.
00:10:56.000There are very few cities that the United States can go into right now, and local troops are being killed at an alarming rate.
00:11:04.000The local police, they're having them bombed every day, 20, 30 people dying, and we've lost over 1,000 Americans.
00:11:12.000Over 1,000 Americans, over $100 billion, and you had the president standing on an aircraft carrier, Abraham Lincoln, saying mission accomplished just a little over a year ago.
00:12:11.000If you like this idea, and more and more people do, you stop at Wal-Mart, you're going to get RFIDs in virtually everything you buy, in your shoes and everything.
00:12:21.000Then you're going to just love the idea of the Mark of the Beast.
00:12:24.000And that's exactly what we're getting.
00:12:26.000The Mark of the Beast on every item that you buy and everything that you do.
00:12:30.000More and more and more control so this has become a war against the American people.
00:12:38.000One other story which I'll tell you very very shortly here and this is from last year but I think it's well worth saying.
00:12:46.000Charges were dropped yesterday against Ruth Granny Gordon.
00:12:49.000Now Ruth Granny Gordon is an 83-year-old wheelchair-bound grandmother who was originally charged with assault and battery with a deadly weapon.
00:12:58.000She had an altercation with six airport security guards that left all six hospitalized.
00:13:06.000Justice was served, said the 95-pound mother of three and grandmother of six, as she said in her wheelchair, aided in her breathing by her oxygen bottle.
00:13:15.000I'm going to sue every fool in the federal government for ignorance, stupidity, and just plain general incompetence.
00:13:21.000I'm an American and I don't want to be treated like this.
00:13:25.000It began when she attempted to board an airplane.
00:13:28.000These guys are supposed to be some kind of professional, she said, but they're dumber than rocks.
00:13:33.000Here they were, letting guys who look like terrorists walk through without searching them, and they pulled me aside and tell me we're gonna search me.
00:13:41.000Well, according to Bud Cord of Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, one guard, who weighed about 300 pounds, looked like he was drunk and had his shirt out, told the woman she couldn't board the plane unless they searched her.
00:13:55.000Video tapes showed that Granny Gordon ran the guard down with her motorized wheelchair, then sat on top of the screaming man, spinning her chair in circles.
00:14:05.000Her quote, Doofus was so fat he couldn't get up, she said with a giggle.
00:14:09.000One guard who attempted to pull her wheelchair off the screaming man from behind was hit over the head with her oxygen bottle and knocked unconscious.
00:14:16.000A third guard approached Granny Gordon from the front.
00:14:53.000Gordon had the seat of his pants set on fire.
00:14:56.000The cigarette lighter that escaped detection.
00:14:58.000He went whoosh across the concourse screaming and slapping all those flames flying out of his rear.
00:15:04.000A sixth guard, now remember she's 83 years old, 95 pounds.
00:15:08.000A sixth guard finally got her in a body hug.
00:15:11.000I think that was the wrong thing to do, another witness said.
00:15:14.000She just grabbed him by his greasy hair with one hand and cracked him across the jaw with her skinny fist and down and out he went.
00:15:22.000After all this, her chair was still sitting on top of the first guard.
00:15:26.000They showed her leaning over yelling, apologize to me you fat blankety bike or when I'm done with you, you'll have a greasy spot on the floor.
00:15:34.000The crowd roared, the guard cried, I'm sorry, I'm sorry uncle, I won't do it again.
00:16:13.000When the American government declares war on the people, then thank you Granny Gordon for standing up when you've got all these people going through.
00:16:23.000It's one thing to have searches and everything else.
00:16:26.000It's another thing to go through some of the machinations that they're making.
00:16:31.000That's the Granny Gordon story, and that one is from Ohio, and my way of thinking, that's what America's about.
00:16:40.000Thank you, Granny Gordon, for standing up for freedom.
00:16:43.000Now you can stand up for freedom by giving us a call right here on the Alex Jones Show, telling us what's on your mind about Iraq, what's on your mind about the increased security.
00:16:52.000What's on your mind about what's going on in America today?
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00:19:11.000When they launch this oil trading market for Middle East and OPEC producers that could threaten the supremacy of London's International Petroleum Exchange.
00:19:20.000If this happens, and it is happening, then you're going to see the United States next go into Iran.
00:19:27.000The only reason they're not into Iran right now is because they're so bobbed down in Iraq.
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00:25:19.000He was with the real people outside risking his life and the interview that he did was outstanding.
00:25:27.000Question that was asked of Alex is this a prison state and he said this is certainly what we're looking at now is a police state right now in New York City.
00:25:38.000This is happening all over the country in little areas that we are into a police state mentality.
00:25:45.000Let's go immediately to our first call and that will be coming to us from Louisiana Bert.
00:26:08.000I have two comments, if I could please, and I thank you for accepting my call here.
00:26:12.000Number one, I think this was a brilliant military move by moving in Iraq for the sole reason that it would drag all these so-called terrorists from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Jordan.
00:26:28.000They're fighting a holy war, which I believe it is, and America's fighting a terrorist war.
00:26:33.000And until we get on the same track and the same mindset as the holy fighters are, we can't win this war.
00:26:40.000Number two, once we got into Iraq, which was a good move to bring all these people into one area instead of America, we didn't fight the right war.
00:26:50.000I believe we're letting these Iranian so-called puppet government control our military, which is sad.
00:27:06.000Well, I would respectfully disagree as far as the reason for the war, because we didn't have any terrorists.
00:27:14.000The terrorists who attacked America were out of, not Iraq, but Saudi Arabia.
00:27:36.000Now, what do you say about what I say this is actually a holy war and not a terrorist war?
00:27:43.000Well, I thought that our extensive reason for going in there was not a war against the Muslims, but it was a war against terrorists to take the terrorists down so America would be a safer place and because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.
00:28:01.000Well, how can we not say this isn't a Muslim war when you look on TV and after they shoot one of our tanks up and stuff, they're in the town over there and there's hundreds of thousands of them marching And down with America, down with America, all over that area.
00:28:17.000From Syria, to Iran, to Iraq, to over to the Palestinians.
00:28:21.000I can't believe that this is not a holy war.
00:28:23.000And I think the terrorist war that they're saying it is, is just a front.
00:29:10.000Weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction.
00:29:13.000I'm not sure that America would go to war on a holy war and all the attackers and most of the things that happened in the United States The 19, if you're going to believe their story, which I don't.
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00:36:01.000Well, the other thing that they're doing is there's a big story that in the European Union, they're thinking about okaying the genetically manufactured... Yeah, I know that.
00:36:11.000And so there, the European Union was always holding out on the genetically manufactured foods.
00:36:23.000$350 million dollar RICO lawsuit filed against Aspartame.
00:36:29.000In the United States today, so $350 million lawsuit, RICO lawsuit, against Aspartame, filed on September 15th, District Court, San Francisco, against the NutriSuite Corporation, American Diabetes Association, Dr. Robert H. Moser, and John Doe's, and you've also got it going against Donald Rumsfeld, who got it pushed through, so there are some pluses that we're getting.
00:36:55.000The racketeering, they're accusing all these people of racketeering.
00:36:59.000So there are some pluses, but we're going to keep on top and see what happens with the herbal situation.
00:37:05.000You know, there are big moves to have anything herbal either put as prescription or banned.
00:37:11.000I was talking to one of their lawyers today, in the half an hour, and he was saying to me, to him, he was saying it should be approved by the Danish FDA.
00:38:40.000I don't recall who the author was, but they said the only difference between the Russian press and the American press is that the Russian people know they're being lied to.
00:39:32.000The globalists are behind all the terrorist acts.
00:39:34.000What about all this blowing up of the oil pipelines up there?
00:39:36.000I mean, that's oil money they're stopping from coming in.
00:39:41.000I just want to hear how that figures in.
00:39:46.000You know, the globalists can't stop everything, and sometimes you just have local people who just do it to stop them.
00:39:52.000And I'm not sure if you don't have people who just don't understand and aren't following the right marching orders who may do something like that.
00:40:28.000I don't think destroying mosques is going to make any difference.
00:40:32.000In fact, I would probably just hurry the whole process.
00:40:36.000Because it looks to me like what is going on there is probably what they call a get rid of the people on top of the ground so that they can get at what's under the ground.
00:40:51.000I'm looking at an article here about a pile of fire that just happened.
00:43:00.000And this is where DuPont is one of the places they are well established and they even have something called the DuPont Highway and these are the individuals who furnished the gunpowder for the Civil War for both sides.
00:43:17.000But, um, there's so much I could talk about, but this caller that called in, I want to talk about Dan rather, but I want to speak to the caller that called in about all the terrorists are going into Iraq.
00:43:27.000The rest of the world, I hear these excuses, oh, they're jealous of our, you know, of our, you know, material goods.
00:43:35.000They're not looking to have their women wearing G-strings, walking down the beach, exposing themselves and tempting men and all this kind of stuff.
00:43:50.000It's the same reason why Indians are selling moccasins and blankets on a reservation.
00:43:56.000And of course, now they've got their casinos, the same thing that all neighborhoods are getting, so that they can destroy problem, reaction, solution, and come in and be the saviors once again.
00:44:06.000So, I just want the corner to think about this.
00:44:09.000I mean, the only terrorists are the elite.
00:44:12.000And they're using terrorism to get total control of the world.
00:44:16.000Now, let me ask you a question there, Eli.
00:44:47.000Yes, I've heard all about it and Paul Joseph Watson, if I recall, is only 22 years old and he does a very good job with PrisonPlanet.tv Which I'm a member and also PrisonPlanet.com.
00:45:25.000Oh, man, it shows you how they do hatchet jobs.
00:45:29.000And they come in for the Clinton administration and also for the Bush administration to be the savior and to spin things in the right direction.
00:45:55.000We know the elitists, what they're doing, and Alex has it, and he talks about it, they're called the Matrix of Evil, and they're leading to prison state, and you can find that in Alex's videos, prison state 1, 2, and 3.
00:46:09.000And so they're putting on this election, which is another sham with the Skull and Bones people.
00:47:47.000I was supposed to be on a couple days vacation with the family, because New York was not a vacation.
00:47:51.000It was the most exhausting thing I've ever experienced.
00:47:54.000I wanted to thank you for sitting in and doing the broadcast, but I did just want to call in and maybe spend a few minutes now, a few minutes into the last segment of this hour, because I know you have a great guest coming up, to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:48:05.000Now, California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher He's introduced a bill so Arnold can be president.
00:48:11.000And he goes, oh well, it's not for Arnold, it's for this other member of Congress who's Hungarian.
00:48:16.000And the Hungarian congressman goes, well, I don't want to be president and it's not for me, but if we're setting up the Austrian-Hungarian Empire again, Arnold can be my lieutenant.
00:48:27.000And so they really do have big plans for Arnold and we have that AP report on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:48:34.000And by the way, now, Erskine, Well, right out in the open, what, six months ago, Senator Orrin Hatch introduced the same legislation to repeal the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution.
00:48:47.000He introduced that in the Senate, now Rohrabacher's introduced it in the House.
00:48:51.000They're very, very serious about this.
00:48:54.000And it just is a testament that so-called conservatives love Arnold when he's for open borders, total gun control, when the guys, you know, pose for gay men.
00:49:04.000uh... has posed for gay magazines uh...
00:49:07.000has done all of this says he hates black people says he wants to be like it work and then i go to republican convention and watch people crying and worshiping and screaming like he's the second coming of the future i mean think about a farm born austrian who said he loves hitler uh...
00:49:22.000literally now being worship by republicans He's more liberal than Bill Clinton.
00:49:26.000And then now they're setting him up for the presidency in 2008.
00:49:29.000And I predict that they're going to try to pass this.
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00:54:38.000He was over at the home of Lord Jacob Rothschild in London.
00:54:42.000And why the big push for Arnold as opposed to bringing up somebody else who's homegrown in America that they don't have to go through all this with, Alex?
00:54:52.000Well, they love him because his father was a Nazi police captain when his father died.
00:54:57.000His mother married one of the top Nazis from World War II, who later ran Austria.
00:55:05.000He then, of course, campaigned for Kurt Waldheim after it had come up that he was a top Nazi.
00:55:10.000Oh, and Yugoslavia killing American airmen and others.
00:55:13.000And the UN, of course, still pays him his pension.
00:55:18.000This is just absolutely classic to show what you're hearing about somebody is the opposite of what they really are.
00:55:24.000But it's another issue, you know, a lot of people prayed and hoped that the hurricane wouldn't hit New Orleans, and it could have killed thousands of people in front of the city, and thank God it slowed and hit enough in the country.
00:55:38.000That's bad for folks in Alabama, but I'm also very thankful, and I'm thankful that folks prayed about that.
00:55:46.000I just wanted to thank you for sitting in on the show, and I'm sorry I'm calling in via a cracky cell phone.
00:55:54.000I really want to thank you, and I want to thank all the listeners and all the affiliates and the sponsors and the folks running the broadcast, and I'm going to drive down the road and keep listening to you, Erskine, so God bless.
00:56:04.000God bless you, and thank you for everything, Alex.
00:56:08.000Nobody has ever done an interview like the one that Alex did, talking to 300,000 people outside New York City.
00:56:14.000I mean, that was electrifying, and the people there in New York, and you're not going to fool the New Yorkers, where 50% of them know that the Bush administration knew about 9-11 before it occurred, and maybe even were complicit to send to it.
00:56:45.000I hate to pile on Bert, but I think there are a lot of Berts out there in my own experience.
00:56:51.000Bert called for a holy war against these people in Iraq and Iran.
00:56:57.000I'd like him to reflect a little bit on what exactly he's saying.
00:57:02.000This being a Christian nation, and arguably the polls still say it is a Christian nation, did Jesus ever call for a waging war on anyone?
00:57:13.000Whether to convince them of his beliefs or anything else?
00:57:17.000No, it seems to me that he had a statement that said something like, turn the other cheek.
00:57:22.000You know, he was very tolerant of everyone of any other religion that came down the pike, and I think that there are people who'd like to see this as a religious war, and I think there are people on both sides who would, but I don't see it as a religious war.
00:57:37.000I see it as a war done by the elitist.
00:57:39.000Well, yeah, if you think a bit about this, though, I mean, who benefits from a war between Christianity and Muslims?
00:58:14.000It is appropriate here to both Iraq and Iran, which resulted in over a million people dying on both sides of that war.
00:58:24.000It set up the Islamic government in Afghanistan that then proceeded to... Oh yeah, now they've got all the dope coming into Afghanistan, where the Taliban had cut it off, and now the women also still don't get to go anywhere.
00:58:38.000It's all back to where it was, except they've got the dope in there.
01:00:13.000I just heard on the local news, this is regional news I guess, the city of Philadelphia is going to an Make the whole city, they're going to spend about 10 million dollars to make the whole city wireless.
01:00:24.000So that anywhere you're out in the, you know, you're out downtown and you're walking around, you can get on your PDA and get on the internet, do all those convenient things that you need to do when you're just sitting around waiting for a train or something like that.
01:00:37.000Right, and the more wireless it is, it's open for anybody to hear anything that you want to talk about, and not that you're talking about secretive things, but I just don't like everybody hearing my business.
01:00:47.000You ever walk into a restaurant, and these people have these cell phones, and it's like they have to yell into it, and you know, I don't really care what their doggie did on the floor when I'm in a restaurant, and I mean, people, they don't even care about their privacy anymore.
01:01:02.000Well, this is often related to privacy, and I don't know I just kind of heard about this accidentally.
01:01:08.000It's kind of interesting how I heard about this, but have you heard of a federal law that goes into effect on October 28th called Act 21, 21st Century Act for Banking?
01:01:47.000And part of the important thing that people might want to educate themselves about this is there's different loopholes for the bank.
01:01:54.000So if they send you what is called an original copy, that copy is not legally binding.
01:02:01.000You have to ask for substitute checks versus original copy and I'm sure you know even the people that work in the bank ask for ask for Megan they charge you for those exactly guys another it's another excuse for them to reach into our pockets and rob us more and change anything that they'd want to so it's another way of them just taking total control.
01:02:22.000Ka-ching as a banker just put more and more of your money into their pockets isn't it?
01:02:27.000right and it'll it will it will clear the checks that you use to like pay your bills and stuff it'll clear them faster But you won't get credited into your bank account any quicker for any checks that you deposit.
01:02:39.000What they say is you no longer can use a float.
01:02:42.000So if you send a check in somewhere and you figure, well, you know, it'll take a couple of days for it to clear my bank, but I'll go ahead and mail it.
01:02:49.000No, now they'll be able to hit you with insufficient funds charges.
01:02:52.000They'll hit you with about 50 bucks worth of charges.
01:02:55.000So if you mail anything, you better make darn sure you got the money to cover it in there.
01:03:00.000And you know, I don't know about you, but a lot of us have mailed checks and realizing that we'd have the money in there by the time they got the check or one thing or another.
01:03:09.000If the mail service just happens to be good, you could be in a lot of trouble for a lot more money at this point.
01:03:17.000So if people want to look it up, they should just Google in check 21 and they'll... because I haven't heard anything about this on the news.
01:03:23.000In the newspaper, you don't get anything from your bank saying, oh, by the way, next month you won't ever get a paper check back.
01:03:32.000They just keep coming at us, don't they?
01:03:35.000They just keep... Megan, that's a wonderful call, and that's one of the reasons that live talk radio and the Alex Jones Show is so significant.
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01:08:16.000Yes, he's the chairman of the Intelligence Committee.
01:08:20.000Porter Goss is the chairman of the Intelligence Committee.
01:08:24.000And he had breakfast with Pakistan's chief spy General Mohammed Ahmed, the chief financer of the 9-11 lead hijacker.
01:08:33.000On the morning of September 11th, his role in the investigation was to bury the meeting because it proves direct government involvement in 9-11 and could bring criminal charges against him personally.
01:09:00.000Army as an intelligence officer, moved to Sanibel Island in 1971 after an illness cut short his 10-year career with the CIA, and he's a member of the Council of Foreign Relations, Phi Beta Kappa.
01:09:14.000He's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, CFR member.
01:09:46.000So I've been working with law enforcement personnel who are stationed in Florida in the Fort Myers area where Porter Goss has lived for many years.
01:10:03.000I I have a little background in this kind of work.
01:10:08.000I am the history editor for Executive Intelligence Review, Lyndon LaRouche's magazine.
01:10:14.000I wrote a book you might have heard of.
01:10:16.000In fact, Alex Jones had the book on his program one time.
01:10:20.000I was called George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography.
01:10:24.000I'm the principal author of that book.
01:10:28.000And there's a chapter of the book on Iran-Contra.
01:10:34.000And in that era, in the 1980s, Felix Rodriguez and many other people were involved with Bush Sr.
01:10:44.000overseeing this covert action within the Reagan administration.
01:10:49.000There was a lot of uh... drug activity into uh... central south america with in cooperation with drug cartels porter goth who is now uh... going to be up for his nomination for cia director they're gonna have a uh... hearing on monday there's a good chance To actually derail his nomination.
01:11:43.000uh... on the west coast uh... he was commercial there he was also uh... uh... the political leader of a set of old c.i.a.
01:11:56.000guys that had set taken over uh... the land and some islands in that area these are the sanibel island that was the main island where he lived and what happened was that the sheriff's department in lee county Came under investigation by honest law enforcement people.
01:12:20.000Attorney out of Tampa, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Customs and IRS, and other agencies were all focusing on a guy named David Wilson, who was the undersheriff, second-in-command in the 1,000-member Lee County Sheriff's Department.
01:12:36.000They were running drugs from the South American cocaine cartels.
01:12:43.000And the investigation into this drug running of the Sheriff's Department was sabotaged.
01:12:53.000And Bob Merkel said at the time that people in the intelligence industry, as he put it, We're blocking his investigation.
01:13:04.000Now this is something that has been corroborated by every agency.
01:13:41.000We are coordinating with people in the Senate Intelligence Committee.
01:13:45.000I've been working on this night and day over the last week.
01:13:49.000And the fact is that Porter Goss, probably also US Senator Bob Graham, Who's his political partner and his intelligence partner at that time and right to the present moment.
01:14:07.000We're both blocking this investigation.
01:14:12.000Not only your book, the biography of George Bush, but also the one by my friend Al Martin.
01:14:18.000which uh... is uh... the insider about uh... the grand contra he tells an awful lot of details about porter goss too because he worked with him and he tells about the work that he did down in Nicaragua.
01:14:31.000This guy is certainly not the sort of person who you want in charge of your intelligence service.
01:14:36.000The problem with Al Martin's work is that he was, he has a tough situation because he was on the inside.
01:15:11.000You can see them online if you go onto the LaRouche PAC website.
01:15:18.000But these have shaped the investigation that's been done and is going on now by anti-Cheney forces within the government, within the intelligence community, within the military.
01:15:31.000we've organized this fight and we intend to bring these people down This is a matter of the next 50 days.
01:15:36.000Now the person who's been behind all of this, the person who's been behind most of what has been going on, getting into Iraq and the whole thing, is not George Bush, but it has been Dick Cheney.
01:15:47.000And there's lots and lots of information about Mr. Cheney.
01:15:50.000You're talking about someone who is decidedly evil.
01:15:53.000You've got to look at Dick Cheney and the money he's still getting from Halburton and the money that went into this so that they can I would say it's beyond money.
01:16:57.000We have carried out a change inside the Kerry campaign.
01:17:05.000Lyndon LaRouche and former President Clinton along with people in the FDR tradition have actually prevailed on Senator Kerry who is now beginning to come out fighting to go after the real issue Which is the fact that the economy is a disaster, that people are dying and will be killed.
01:17:31.000Most people will die as a result of the economic disaster unless we get this pack of fools out of there.
01:17:40.000Let's talk about how bad the economic disaster is.
01:17:43.000By 2009, the United States of America, according to the GAO, this isn't according to somebody who's just saying, well, I think this is going to happen.
01:17:51.000This is the General Accounting Office that says the United States will not be able to pay the debt on its interest.
01:18:42.000This is Erskine sitting in talking about the nomination of Porter Goss right now.
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01:23:47.000One of them is that this entire deal of Porter-Gauss down there in Florida had a lot to do with cocaine and marijuana going into that area.
01:23:56.000Now, I talked with Ken Bucci, who wrote Operation Pseudo-Miranda.
01:24:01.000I don't know if you're familiar with Ken.
01:24:08.000He told about a meeting in Zurich, Switzerland between the mob, the CIA, and the drug dealers, and how they agreed that, okay, we will cut our production going into the United States of America if you'll give us safe passage.
01:24:24.000And so I said, Ken, what you're telling me is, We agreed to let them fly drugs in through Mena, Arkansas.
01:24:31.000And Ken said, no, no, no, we didn't agree to that.
01:24:34.000We told them we'd fly the drugs in for them.
01:24:37.000The CIA and drugs have become absolutely interlinked.
01:24:42.000Look at what's happened in Afghanistan.
01:25:34.000The under-sheriff, that means the second in command of the 1,000-member Sheriff's Department, was named David Wilson.
01:25:41.000Wilson was under investigation by every federal agency for drug smuggling.
01:25:46.000He was known to be a little Hitler there, like Carlos Lehder.
01:25:50.000From whose cartel he was getting the dope.
01:25:53.000And at a certain point in the early 1990s, the federal agents, who were frustrated, started to demand that this guy be dealt with and he should be in prison.
01:26:10.000This guy, Wilson, went to Porter Goss to try to protect himself.
01:26:15.000Because Porter Goss had been there, in that area, as the Eminence Gris, the dark, the gray eminence for the intelligence community since 1971.
01:26:29.000And this is known to everybody in law enforcement in that area, that you have these two guys, Porter Goss and Bob Graham, that have been involved in overseeing this horrible situation where the dope kept coming into Lee County.
01:26:46.000All you have to do To help us to break this completely wide open in the next three days, before Monday, is to get to your congressman, get to your senator, and say, what does Porter Goss know about the dope smuggling in his own county, in Lee County, Florida?
01:27:08.000The name of the under-sheriff is David Wilson.
01:27:13.000He was under investigation, let me quote you, from The Fort Myers Newspaper, this article is February 9th, 1996, in Fort Myers News Press.
01:27:28.000And it says that David Wilson, the undersheriff, I'm quoting here, was Chief Deputy from 1973 to 1996.
01:27:42.000During the mid-1980s, Wilson came under fire after a fellow deputy claimed he saw Wilson on the airstrip during a drug run gone bad.
01:27:50.000Federal officials not only discovered that Wilson had sold an airplane to a major drug dealer, but also nearly indicted him on drug running charges.
01:28:04.000Now let me ask you, Anton, what the heck does nearly indicted mean?
01:28:09.000Is that like being a little bit pregnant?
01:28:11.000It means that what happened is that the Drug Enforcement Administration, Bob Merkel's U.S.
01:28:16.000Attorney's Office, the IRS and Customs were all stopped, called.
01:28:22.000By intelligence community interference in the investigation.
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01:33:41.000Right now, we are talking with Anton, who's with the LaRouche organization, and Anton, we're talking a little bit more about Porter Goss, and you say, have your Congress people ask Mr. Goss, what does he know about drug smuggling in Lee County, Florida, and that'll stop him cold.
01:34:17.000What does it matter if we have this Porter Goss?
01:34:20.000What else worries you about Porter Goss other than the fact that he was doing a little drug business down there in Florida or supporting people who were?
01:34:29.000What's troubling about Goss, the reason that people on both sides, Republican and Democrat, are deeply worried about this is that in the last days of this administration, they want to do a complete reorganization of intelligence, with Porter Goss coming in, to allow them to start up a war with Iran aimed at Russia.
01:34:54.000There is already a fight inside the government that LaRouche and our friends in there have started against this attack that Goss and Cheney's faction is starting.
01:35:10.000There's a group inside the Pentagon called the Office of Special Plans set up by Cheney to bypass the CIA, to bypass the normal channels of the military because they didn't give the neocons what they wanted.
01:35:26.000We saw what they did concerning the so-called buying the nuclear this and that from Niger and that was part of the Cheney inside the operation.
01:35:39.000And so they set up this filthy Israel connected, you know, Likud connected unit that was set up by Cheney This is Gaza's faction, and they were at the point of about to start a new war with Iran.
01:35:53.000The AIPAC was going to get some ads to say that Iran had nuclear weapons and we need to go bomb them.
01:35:59.000Now this is aimed in the direction of a near-term conflict with Russia.
01:36:07.000This is totally unnecessary from our standpoint.
01:36:10.000And Putin is exactly right in his response to this, because these terrorist provocations, just like they came from Cheney in 9-11, they're coming from Cheney now.
01:36:22.000They're using the Afghanistan terrorists that Brzezinski and these fools got up in the late 70s, Osama Bin Laden and the rest of them, in those days, they're using them now to try to take Russia apart.
01:36:40.000Okay, are you saying that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA operative?
01:36:44.000Well, that's understood by every government in the world.
01:36:47.000The question is, what are you going to do about it?
01:36:50.000And here's my plea... This weekend on Erskine Overnight, we're going to have a... Hello?
01:39:15.000So when you're seeing this connection, that really puts things in perspective, doesn't it, Anton?
01:39:21.000Yeah, I want to make a plea to the listeners to look at the children of Satan.
01:39:30.000This is the 40-year story of how the boomers had their minds and their humanity taken from them by Alan Dulles in the conversion of our national strategy in that direction.
01:40:00.000I did the story of the fellowship, the so-called Hitler cult that Tom DeLay and these guys belong to, But the whole boomer generation, starting back in the 50s and early 60s, was induced to give up their connection to the American Revolution, their connection to humanistic culture, their connection to the Renaissance, their connection to mankind.
01:40:27.000And to say, I'm going to live for momentary pleasure.
01:40:31.000I don't care about being a productive human being anymore.
01:40:34.000Alan Dulles ran a series of conferences called the Congress of Cultural Freedom, and we go through the whole story there.
01:40:42.000This faction of intelligence, of which Porter Goss is a leading representative, and he's connected to the Morgan and DuPont families by Marriage and by his personal background, this is the dullest faction.
01:40:59.000This faction backed the creation of fascism and at the same time left-wing synarcism in Europe, Latin America and elsewhere, right and left.
01:41:13.000Our intelligence people knew about this during World War II and at the end of World War II.
01:41:19.000LaRouche was given The files by Max Corvo and other people during, under the Reagan administration.
01:41:31.000Which is very, very close to... The people that are running the drugs, and are running the terrorism inside Russia, inside the Middle East, is a continuation of what we fought in World War II.
01:41:45.000And we are now determined to bring this to an end.
01:41:48.000We want to go back to what the United States had as a strategic outlook and a mission before the murder of John Kennedy.
01:42:23.000They're attacking the problem of energizing the black ghetto, the labor unions, the farmers, the former constituents of the Democratic Party, to bring them back in politics and overwhelm these Nazis, this fat-ass Nazi Dick Cheney.
01:42:40.000And I heard them singing A heightened canon.
01:42:44.000A fugal, beautiful music with that name on the top.
01:42:49.000It's very, very funny when you hear these kids singing this in beautiful music as a canon about a fat-ass constable, Dick Cheney.
01:43:12.000Political explosion in Washington, I guarantee it.
01:43:15.000If you hit on what Porter Goss knows about dope smuggling in Lee County, how he helped block the federal task force that was going after the Sheriff's Department running of dope out of South America, you can block Porter Goss.
01:45:52.000Yeah, well, Children of Satan is the book, people, we'll send a free book to anybody that calls us, but we want, I mean our agenda here is to block Goss.
01:46:02.000And we can do it, because there's a real alarm about what these guys are trying to do to put somebody like that in charge of, like Himmler, in charge of all the intelligence, then you have Ashcroft At FBI, and you've lost the country.
01:46:17.000Now, we're talking, when you're talking about the Nazi connection, and you're talking about a definite Nazi connection, they're talking about Alex Jones did that remarkable, remarkable story where he's saying that they want to run Arnold in 2008.
01:46:56.000You know, I first put my co-author, Webster Tarpley, on his program, and for some reason was very shy about putting me on, even though it was my research in the book.
01:47:08.000And Webster only wrote about the Bush administration.
01:47:10.000I was the one Who told the story about the Bush family and Hitler?
01:47:16.000The Bush family and Hitler were tight as could be.
01:47:20.000I'm surprised he didn't have a picture of Prescott Bush on his desk, but Adolf Hitler did have a picture of Henry Ford.
01:47:27.000Well, Henry Ford was an unfortunate guy who was duped by some Russian intelligence people.
01:47:33.000Absolutely, but he had a picture of Henry Ford on his desk, but Prescott Bush, who actually was through Brown Brothers Harriman.
01:47:40.000So when you're looking at the Bush family, this is a family that has supported the Nazis from before World War II all the way up through... Well now they're supporting Cheney, and that's just as bad.
01:47:51.000Cheney is the guy running this, as you said.
01:47:54.000Anyway, what can we do to get this message out to the listeners?
01:48:02.000Call your congressman, check with your congresspeople, and make sure that you have this taken care of, that you ask them one question, have your congressperson ask, what does he know, he being Porter Goss, know about dope smuggling in Lee County, Florida?
01:48:20.000Ask him that one simple question before Congress has a hearing, and it all could be over.
01:48:26.000It all could be over and you've got other names mentioned and everything else and you can go up to Larouchepub.org and all of the information.
01:49:12.000I can tell you from the interviews that I've done over the last week, That agents in every, honest law enforcement people in every walk of life in our government are still pissed at how this thing was squelched.
01:49:28.000We've got three days to do this, so ladies and gentlemen, please get on this topic.
01:49:32.000Anton, thank you for being on the Alex Jones Radio Program.
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01:54:05.000I've been fighting this fight for a long time.
01:54:08.000But I needed Alex to know that they've shut down a little private radio station here in Knoxville.
01:54:17.000The FCC, it was Knoxville First Amendment Radio.
01:54:22.000And I didn't even know it existed because I spend too much time with Genesis.
01:54:25.000But they've apparently been around about three years.
01:54:28.000And they took all their equipment and shut them up.
01:54:33.000They're doing that around everywhere and you've got corporately controlled radio in most places that control most of the big radio stations.
01:54:42.000They just simply have control of most of your radio stations and it's a sad situation.
01:54:49.000We used to have independent radio stations all around the country and you know that Nancy.
01:54:54.000NPR is one of the ones that decided to shut them down.
01:55:39.000I have my great-great-grandfather's naturalization papers when he came over from Ireland to renounce Victoria as Queen of England and all of that.
01:55:47.000And we had to learn the Constitution of the United States.
01:55:50.000You read, and now, and now, if you're reading the Constitution of the United States, oh, you must be some type of a wacko.
01:55:57.000They don't even want you reading the Constitution of the United States.
01:56:00.000Eight hundred and some odd books have been banned.
01:56:02.000They aren't really banned, but they're questionable if you're reading those.
01:56:05.000Are they books about That the FBI is looking into?
01:56:08.000Are they into libraries and everywhere else if you check them out?
01:58:17.000That's all we can do to sort of keep the seat warm until he gets back here on Monday.
01:58:22.000And we've got a couple of things that are happening.
01:58:25.000Two of the big stories, of course, the hurricanes.
01:58:28.000And God bless the poor people in Pensacola and Mobile, that whole area through there.
01:58:33.000Hurricane winds up to 100 miles per hour.
01:58:37.000Either side of the eye of the hurricane.
01:58:39.000I mean, it was quite a disaster that's going on through there.
01:58:41.000I've been watching it on CNN, and it's incredible what's happening there.
01:58:45.000God bless the people there, and let's hope that everything works out for the best for you.
01:58:50.000And thank goodness, thank God that it did not hit New Orleans.
01:58:55.000Being three feet under, under sea level at the start, it just went a little bit to the east of New Orleans, and we're very happy about that.
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02:00:55.000Well, you've got Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who was the person who was in charge of Cyril at the time it went through the FDA.
02:01:03.000He was President and CEO of Cyril, who owned the Patent on Aspartame.
02:01:07.000Aspartame is a very dangerous product disease.
02:01:12.000It's been implicated in all sorts of different neurological problems.
02:01:18.000There are over 10,000 lawsuits against Aspartame.
02:01:21.000over 10,000 complaints to the FDA, including deaths from aspartame.
02:01:31.000It's a very, in my opinion, very, very bad product.
02:01:36.000There's a movie that just was released by a friend of ours, Corey Brackett, who's on Erskine Overnight, and it's called Sweet Misery.
02:01:44.000This weekend, let me do a real quick little plug.
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02:01:59.000First off we're going to be talking about Christian Wilde's going to be talking about hidden causes of heart attack and then we're going to be having Ted Gunderson, former, former director of the Los Angeles office of the FBI.
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02:05:58.000There's a war, actually, if you look at it, it seems to me, against the American people.
02:06:02.000It's called the War on Terror, and it's become a war against the American people.
02:06:07.000Look at what's happened to our Constitution in the United States, just like that lovely lady who called in from Tennessee, Nancy, was saying.
02:06:15.000Erskine Overnight is a program that I do, and we're every Saturday night on Genesis Communications Network.
02:06:23.000Erskine Overnight and the website is www.erskineonradio.com so if you want to contact me and we've got up there all sorts of information be happy to hear from you.
02:06:35.000Know any stations that we ought to be on?
02:06:42.000We certainly are more than anxious because there are fewer and fewer independent radio stations out there, fewer and fewer out Hey Erskine, interesting topics.
02:06:51.000I wanted to say to Alex, Alex enjoy your vacation.
02:07:23.000He put himself on the line for us, doesn't he?
02:07:26.000He was right on the front lines, and it was great.
02:07:29.000Interesting conversation with Anton, and I wanted to reference an interesting book that a friend of mine just lent me.
02:07:38.000And if I know Alex, he's probably a mile ahead of me.
02:07:40.000He's probably already interviewed him about this book, and I missed the show.
02:07:43.000But it's called, the title of the book is, The High Priests of War.
02:07:47.000The secret history of how America's neoconservative Trotskyites came to power and orchestrated the war against Iraq as the first step in their drive for global empire.
02:08:04.000Okay, and he also wrote Final Judgment about the murder of JFK.
02:08:10.000And he goes into the history of the neocons, the Trotskyite movement, how they basically wormed their way, these neocons have literally wormed their way into so many positions of influence within the media, the military, the upper levels of the government.
02:08:30.000That we're coming down to divining time, Erskine, because every 36 years in America there seems to be a cycle.
02:08:38.000The last time a major political spasm occurred in America was 19... what was it?
02:09:36.000And the type of conservatism, I talk to people who are Republicans, and say, yeah, I believe in smaller government.
02:09:41.000And I'm looking at the size of the government and what's going on, and I said, well, you know, Republicans traditionally kept us out of war, and I'm seeing this that's going on.
02:09:52.000They have sold the American people a bill of goods.
02:09:55.000Yes, and the only difference, people need to understand this, that the only true difference between today's neoconservatives and the old Bolshevik movement, just after the Tsars in Russia, is time, place, and language.
02:10:11.000The philosophies are the same, the methods are the same, the aims and the goals are the same, and how they carry out their goal are the same.
02:10:20.000This whole war in the Middle East, This is designed, that part of the globalists, this is designed to antagonize a whole panoply of nations into attacking us and to being our enemies.
02:10:35.000It's got everybody in the world, including the leader of the United Nations, every country in the world mad at the United States.
02:10:51.000They believe that, especially the United States corporations and their bullying tactics all over the world, There is nowhere in the world that is really safe for Americans today.
02:11:05.000They are disliked virtually everywhere.
02:11:08.000Go back five years ago, we were loved by a lot of different countries.
02:11:12.000We've given aid to countries that nobody else has.
02:11:14.000We've helped countries all over the world.
02:11:16.000We've spent all this time building up love for America and then all of a sudden, Lately, it's just all of the goodwill that we built up is totally gone with the various wars that we have created.
02:11:30.000And you listen to the Savages, the Hannity's, and the Limbaugh's, and you talk about a bill of goods.
02:11:35.000I mean, I used to think, I've told Alex this more than once, I used to think that those guys were the bees knees.
02:11:41.000I love to listen to Russ Limbaugh and I still feel like he's a great communicator, but the message that he's putting out I certainly cannot buy.
02:11:50.000I've heard this from several sources that I think he was blackmailed by members of the Bush clan.
02:11:57.000You want to talk to him about the CFR?
02:11:58.000You want to talk to him about the Bilderbergs?
02:14:09.000Anyway, whatever the case, we can study up on everything they do, learn everything they do, know it for a fact, present the facts, and the courts will stop us.
02:15:04.000And the first thing you know, they're going to get hurt.
02:15:07.000And I bet there's enough listeners to your show, and Alex's show, and Dave's show, and on and down the line, there's enough listeners to really have an effect on them.
02:15:15.000If you're going to buy groceries, you're going to buy food.
02:15:17.000Try to buy something with a farmer's picture on it, if you can.
02:15:21.000Go to a farm market, buy something with a farmer's picture on it.
02:15:24.000It may cost you a few pennies more, but you're going to be getting something pure and something that someone cares about.
02:15:28.000Go to a small town dealer, if you've got one, small hardware store, small this, that, or the other.
02:15:34.000Go, if you're going to have lunch, go to somebody's restaurant that has their name on it.
02:15:39.000I'm not talking about Wendy or something like that, but some restaurant where you know the people who run the restaurant, and sit down and talk to your neighbors.
02:16:32.000Long live Alex Jones, long live Stanley Monteith, and long live Erskine.
02:16:37.000Now, concerning the Remnant Saints Intercontinental Congress, of which Alex Jones is an honorary member, is it a good idea, do you believe, to attempt establishing a Christian world government when the scriptures tell us that that is not to be established until Jesus' return?
02:16:57.000I don't think a world government under any auspices is a good idea.
02:17:01.000I am not for a world government, period.
02:17:05.000I think that I am for sovereignty and our sovereign governments for whatever sovereign areas that the people live in.
02:17:39.000Thank you so much, Rick, for the call.
02:17:40.000And we'll be right back on the Alex Jones Radio Program with Ron in New York.
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02:21:56.000Well, if you're going to wage war on corruption, then you need to have your Congress people ask Mr. Porter Goss, who is leading the way to become the next CIA director, they need to ask him one simple question.
02:22:54.000You have made a comment a little earlier about the government, and I'd like to point something out.
02:23:01.000For some years now, you know, I'm an active individual, politically involved.
02:23:06.000And for many, many years, probably closer to a quarter of a century, I would make inquiries of agencies who ask about what rules are, what laws are, so forth and so on.
02:23:19.000Now, keep in mind, this is going on close to 25 years.
02:23:24.000If you do that now, you could almost feel a paranoid apprehension on the part of the government worker you're asking a very simple question of.
02:23:36.000Uh, you could be making an inquiry about public domain information, government rules.
02:23:42.000And this applies particularly with the federal agencies, you'll find this.
02:23:46.000And the suspicious paranoia will ooze right out of their pores and through the receiver of the telephone.
02:23:52.000Oh, you can't ask them about anything, but can they ask you about anything, Ron?
02:23:57.000Oh, they want to know about everything!
02:24:02.000I mean, this is creating an atmosphere that is charged with neurotic paranoia.
02:24:08.000Now, I don't like... It's not neurotic paranoia!
02:24:11.000It isn't paranoia when it's happening!
02:24:13.000I mean, the government has become more and more opaque, and we're becoming more and more transparent.
02:24:18.000They want to know every little detail about you.
02:24:21.000Yeah, even to a point where you sign up, they've got the new thing that they've been trying to bring in with the airlines, where they want all of the information.
02:24:29.000And you can be green, you can be yellow, you can be red.
02:24:32.000They use a lot of colors, I've noticed.
02:24:34.000But we're on our orange chartreuse alerts and you've got, if you do any banking, you're spending more than $200 or if you've got a Christmas club, they want to know about that.
02:24:43.000We had the lady who called in talking about the new banking rules.
02:24:47.000One thing after another to intrude into you.
02:24:50.000And I, you know, I said I was a conservative Republican.
02:25:20.000And there is something very wrong when you... I'm talking about simple inquiries, too.
02:25:23.000When you make a public information, public domain information inquiry, And you're examined, you know, like you're John Dillinger, for merely asking a question of a government servant, a government civil servant.
02:26:28.000It's not consistent with a democratic society.
02:26:32.000It creates paranoid lunacy within the general population, and I believe that it's the intent to stampede people in that way, then take advantage of the stampede.
02:26:43.000It is absolutely consistent with a police state, and that's why Alex's video, Police State 3, is so important, because it is absolutely consistent with a police state.
02:26:53.000As I wanted to say a moment ago, I'm not trying to draw extreme parallels, but if you have people who have read history, In the early stages of the Third Reich, this is what happened.
02:27:04.000You know, it didn't come on them all at once.
02:27:06.000Hitler took office and the next day this happened.
02:27:09.000It came on them over a period of some years, probably about five to seven years.
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02:31:18.000All you have to do is tell them they're being attacked, denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger.
02:32:36.000You know, radio talk show hosts and you're talking about Rush Limbaugh and I always keep in mind that when Kobe Bryant was being called the next Michael Jordan and Lakers were winning championships before he got in all that trouble, when Haley Berry was winning And Oscar, you know, these two guys are at the peaks of their career.
02:32:56.000Rush Limbaugh was still making more than both of these guys combined, so that kind of tells you where Rush Limbaugh's priorities are.
02:33:05.000But, you know, as far as him looking like the big gerbils, I think this Thomas Barnett Democrat guy who wrote the book, The Pentagon's New Map, I think he's got Rush totally beat.
02:33:23.000Well, I'll tell you one of the nastiest people I've heard on radio, and I hate to say this to criticize anyone, but one of the nastiest people, Sean Hanratty.
02:33:34.000I've heard him do interviews where he's cut people off and cut them down.
02:33:38.000If you've got anything that disagrees with what he says, he doesn't even listen to them.
02:33:42.000He just tears them apart and uses their opening statement.
02:33:46.000Dave, anything else that you care to comment on?
02:33:49.000Well, yeah, this Thomas Barnett guy, this is real interesting.
02:33:52.000Alex was, uh, he was trying to get him on the show yesterday and the guy wouldn't come on.
02:33:56.000So, uh, Alex was talking about he was on C-SPAN, so I'd go to the booknotes.org and look at the transcript of what this guy was saying.
02:34:04.000And, uh, this guy was working, here, I'll just quote it.
02:34:08.000I ran a series of workshops with Cantor Fitzgerald atop the World Trade Center, where we brought together Wall Street heavyweights, National Security Council members, and OSD, Office of Secretary of Defense, planners and whatnot, and subject matter experts.
02:34:22.000And we explored the future of globalization and what could threaten globalization and what would be new definitions of international instability and crisis.
02:34:32.000And then 9-11 comes, and, you know, so he loses that job, and they put him in a transformation project run by the Joint Forces Command, which is basically, I'll quote it again, Oh, we're going to build the military tomorrow, today, which basically they're, you know, pretty much building a privatized, um...
02:34:58.000You know, they're trying to destroy the military as we know it now.
02:35:02.000You've got the military going out there working for $1,200 a month, and you've got the private soldiers going out there for $1,000 a day, and it's demoralizing to the nth degree, and you've got all these people going out there working for Halliburton and who knows what else.
02:35:18.000It's a really weird situation, isn't it?
02:35:31.000We need an explanation of the world that says not only are we transforming because we're a rich and technologically capable country, and thus can have, you know, a well-endowed and technological enabled military, but that we're doing this transformation for the U.S.
02:35:46.000military in response to real changes in the international security environment that we think we now understand, in part, thanks to 9-11.
02:39:47.000It's a law enforcement or intelligence tool.
02:39:54.000Is this for terrorism or one of these deadbeat dad things that they brought in for that?
02:39:59.000Well, it isn't just for terrorism because the article says, and there's a quote here, Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Periondi, Deputy Commissioner for Operations of the Pennsylvania State Police, quote, I won't lie to you, this system is not just being used He actually said, I won't lie to you.
02:40:25.000That's a plus coming from a government official saying, I won't lie to you.
02:40:34.000I came across, this is a different subject, but I came across this and I've been on some of the other shows, you know, GCN shows.
02:40:43.000Here's a patent, Erskine, a control system for air vehicle and corresponding method And what it does is, when it's determined that an air vehicle is about to hit a designated structure, a controller automatically takes control of the air vehicle away from the pilot and causes an automatic computerized pilot to take over control of the air vehicle and causes it to land at a selected airport and or runway.
02:41:13.000Those are not my words, that's the government's patent office.
02:41:46.000673-2022 And it's a, uh, that's the title of it, Control System for Air Vehicle and Corresponding Methods.
02:41:56.000And they, you know, they've, uh... Not only are they planning terrorism, but they're patenting it now!
02:42:02.000Okay, hey, coming to a city near you, patented, so if somebody like Osama decides to use that, or somebody, uh, in some other country wants to use it, excuse me, you may be flying a plane into our building, but that's a patented technique you're using, we're gonna sue you!
02:42:19.000Well, there's one little caveat in that, Erskine, in that a patent can be, whether it's in the application stage or whether it's already granted, a patent can be more or less, you know, the use of it can be seized by the government at any point if they want to for any use, let's say, that would be a military use.
02:42:45.000And I know that because if you go to the patent office site, they have information about that.
02:43:12.000Well, I think as long as the money is coming in, I think their ability to say no, and of course they have that slogan, just say no, but the cops don't say no to money.
02:43:24.000And when it's big money, when you're talking about upwards of 50 to 100 billion or maybe even several hundred billion being spread around the country, they don't say no to that and they do say no to ethics when it's a question of money.
02:43:41.000Now let's say that again there Fred, that is patent number 6732022 and that's the ability to take over a plane and fly it wherever you want to, override what the pilot may or may not be doing.
02:43:53.000I was reading right from the abstract, the official abstract, and what that is, is on the first page of the document that comes up when you type in that number 673 And the thing about it is that the kind of technology is linked to other types of -
02:44:18.000I mean that's not the only one that does that type of a job.
02:44:25.000But it is the most explicit one that I've come across.
02:44:29.000And Dave and Joyce were bringing up the subject of what is going on and how can the official timeline and events be correct when you have what they know are lots of things that contradict So I went on the internet.
02:45:06.000That's where a lot of the listeners here at the Alex Jones Show can get a lot of the other programs, because some of us aren't on as many stations as Alex.
02:45:55.000And also the other thing is that I think that you should have the network itself, the Genesis, should definitely have a lot of different choices on which to communicate.
02:46:05.000So if things go out or if there's some sort of heavy-handed approach used, if it's not one it could be the other.
02:46:16.000I called Sirius up and they said that they don't have any shortwave programs as such, but when I asked again, I said, well how could something like these shows be packaged?
02:46:28.000They said, well if someone came forward with a shortwave review, like a shortwave anthology, they won't take it straight from Sirius.
02:46:42.000You know, the shortwave waves, but they will take it if it's a package, you know, sort of like World Shortwave Review or U.S.
02:46:50.000Well, they can sure get it from us through Satellite and one thing or another.
02:46:53.000I want to thank you for the call, Fred, and calling from Philadelphia.
02:46:57.000Thanks for breaking yourself away from one of those good Philly cheese sandwiches here at lunchtime for a lot of us.
02:47:03.000A couple of things that you need to do.
02:47:59.000Well, I just want to reiterate about our personal checks.
02:48:06.000It's been going on for years, but I remember probably about three, four years ago I called my local bank and demanded the return of my personal checks, which I do not obtain from them, but buy my checks from a different company.
02:48:23.000Let's talk about that when you get back.
02:48:25.000I think this check thing is very, very significant.
02:48:27.000Talking about Sherrilyn, Ohio, about the checks.
02:48:29.000We'll be right back on the Alex Jones Radio Program.
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02:52:24.000uh... stations and also you can listen at GCN live dot com my website is Erskine on radio dot com where you can write to me you can see Daisy the desert dog the world's premier pigskin prognosticating poodle and you can see the guests that we've had on and we're going to have on talking to Cheryl in Ohio and Cheryl that's uh... that's pretty bad what they're doing out with those checks is they keep charging you if you want to get a real check back and according to the one lady who called we're going to be
02:53:46.000And I find this kind of ludicrous because if I do not order my checks to my local bank but to a separate entity, then those are my legal documents that somebody is keeping and banks, are they now run by the federal government?
02:54:05.000Oh yes they are, but you're talking about if you order from one of those little things that you get in a Sunday supplement like Parade Magazine where it says, hey order your checks here, they're cheaper.
02:54:14.000It's your money, your paper, you're paying for it.
02:54:17.000All you're doing is sending it to the bank and saying, hey put your stamp on it and send it back to me.
02:54:22.000And now they're telling you you can't.
02:54:24.000No, they won't and I'd like to know where the law is written Where, if anyone out there knows, where is it law that these banks, these institutions, Will not give us back our legal documents.
02:54:45.000I mean, why does the bank want to, you know, they take up enough room in my basement where I got the old canceled checks going back about 10 years.
02:54:52.000I mean, they want to do that, and if they do, then I'll have a chance to go into their basement.
02:55:16.000I don't think they shred anything unless it's something to make them look guilty.
02:55:20.000That's the only time they start getting them shredders out.
02:55:23.000I mean, the only time they're getting them out is when they're looking bad and they don't want you to see what they're doing.
02:55:28.000I think this is a serious issue and I think that people, if they were to wake up, more and more people were to wake up and start calling their banks And demanding, and then if the bank says no, then we need to demand where it is written in law.
02:55:49.000Poor Cheryl, she doesn't even trust her banker.
02:55:51.000I mean, we're in trouble when you don't trust me!