Porter Goss has been confirmed as the new head of the new domestic threat agency, the S.I.A. as well as being the Director of the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO). Also, the FBI may revive parts of Patriot Act 2. Also, California passes a bill that makes it easier for the government to track us online. Japan fears North Korea is a nuclear threat, but not North Korea? Also, Powell says the U.S. has no plans to attack Iran, but they do want to go into Iran and give you a new national draft.
00:00:12.000He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:26.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, the 23rd day of September 2004, Porter Gosch, Has been confirmed as director of the Central Intelligence Agency and now they want to make him the head of the new Super Domestic Threat Agency as well.
00:00:45.000Porter Goss who met with the head Pakistani general who openly wired $100,000 to the supposed lead hijacker Mohammed Adda.
00:00:53.000Porter Goss, long time CIA mole, your new domestic ruler.
00:01:01.000It's like Herman Goering and Heinrich Himmler under the Führer.
00:01:04.000We've got Ridge, and we've got Ashcroft, and we've got Herr Goss over there.
00:02:56.000That's having a symposium coming up here in what, seven days at the University of Texas.
00:03:03.000They admit they're going to take away our internet, force us onto their net, and track everything we do, and not even let us have websites.
00:03:11.000That was openly announced in Forbes Magazine, by the way.
00:04:06.000And this is all part of the new freedom, just like in New York you get arrested if you don't give a big enough tip, or if you chew disrespectfully in D.C.
00:04:15.000you're arrested, or if you put your feet up on a park bench you're arrested, or... Well, I'm sure you've all heard the stories where a peace shirt in the mall that you bought in the mall and you are arrested, or wear an anti-globalist shirt in public and then your boss fires you and admits it and the court says, yes, we can fire you for your views, There's people on no-fly list who are openly peaceniks against war and speak out against violent Muslim groups.
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00:09:03.000Yesterday we talked about these mainstream news articles out of Michigan that were picked up by World Net Daily about a FEMA-sponsored and Homeland Security run, drill with over 200 children, a bunch of state and federal and local agencies, training for homeschoolers, homeschoolers' parents attacking the schools, attacking school buses, blowing things up, murdering children en masse, And I've been aware of this for years.
00:09:33.000Again, it's in my film, The Road to Tyranny.
00:09:35.000There are training manuals, FEMA on tape saying it, multiple manuals, federal, state, around the country, FBI manuals, Magida reports, stuff going back to Clinton, Bush.
00:09:50.000Anything wholesome and good, anything decent, they're being trained, you're a terrorist.
00:09:55.000Gun owners, Christians, Conservatives, those that are against the UN, those that make frequent references to the Constitution.
00:10:04.000This shows who the real terrorists are.
00:10:09.000District sorry for homeschooler terrorist link.
00:10:12.000Another article today, security drill conducted scenario with wackos against education.
00:10:18.000A school district that participated in a terror attack response drill apologized for using a scenario in which children were threatened By a fictitious, radical group that believes everyone should be homeschooled.
00:10:29.000And again, they have 200 kids there, and they yell at them, and they have the terror drill people there going, I'M GONNA KILL YOU, YOU DON'T HOMESCHOOL!
00:11:01.000And then men in camo and uniforms start running and screaming and kids who are walking down the hall who are at the bathroom get grabbed and slammed down.
00:11:08.000They put guns in their heads and yell and scream.
00:11:10.000In several cases they blow cops' heads off.
00:11:19.000I've got all these mainstream news articles in my films.
00:11:21.000They actually have loaded bullets, loaded cartridges sometimes, and more often than not, splatter their own officers, or splatter role-player cops, because the idiot police they bring in have loaded weapons.
00:12:19.000District Sorry for Homeschooler Terrorist Link Security Drill Conducted Scenario with Wackos Against Education.
00:12:26.000And it says the made-up group called Wackos Against Schools and Education was invented by a local government emergency services director.
00:12:33.000Funny, the local news article, the article yesterday, said that it was from Homeland Security and FEMA.
00:12:38.000The Muskegon Area Intermediate School District, MAISD, in Michigan said it shared the disappointment of others when it learned Tuesday's preparedness frill referred homeschoolers as the fictitious group responsible for a mock disaster.
00:12:52.000We apologize, the district said in a statement.
00:12:54.000The MAISD and local districts were not aware of the scenario.
00:13:04.000Folks, I've been to these drills all over the country, and it'll be a right-wing militia group attack city hall.
00:13:11.000And they'll pass out flyers of threats from the militia, simulated flyers that say, stop the U.N.
00:13:19.000takeover, stop the warrantless checkpoints, stop the out-of-control government, stop gun control.
00:13:25.000And then everybody thinks, oh, people who are against that are associated with terrorism.
00:13:32.000So, they're now apologizing, and it goes on to say that a sample scenario was required in order to receive the necessary federal funding to stage the event, and this was one of the federally sampled scenarios.
00:13:50.000Again, we have it on video, we have their own training manuals.
00:13:54.000The reason I've spent so much time on this is because this illustrates what they're really up to, what they're really doing, who they're really demonizing.
00:14:03.000Speaking of the New World Order police state, this is out of the Associated Press, House may revive parts of Patriot Act 2.
00:14:12.000Well, yeah, they're about to reauthorize Patriot Act 1, with its sunset for O5, but the problem is, is they admit they want to quote, strengthen it with Patriot Act 2, which... Patriot Act 1 makes all misdemeanors an act of terrorism, or all suspicion of it.
00:14:29.000There's no probable cause or no due process.
00:14:32.000Patriot Act II in the subsections makes us all enemy combatants for no reason at all.
00:14:38.000It just says if they want to arrest you secretly, they can.
00:14:41.000Secretly intern you in a foreign nation or secretly execute you.
00:14:45.000House Republicans plan to revive portions of the Justice Department's Patriot Act II draft legislation to address the September 11th Commission's recommendations to strengthen America's intelligence capabilities, the Associated Press has learned.
00:14:58.000Again, the 9-11 Commission, appointed by Bush, Many of them business with the Bin Laden's and others, like Chairman Keene, have recommended just total police state takeover.
00:15:08.000In a draft of the House GOP legislation obtained by the Associated Press, many of the provisions were similar to the draft copy of the Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003, that a non-profit group said had leaked out of the Justice Department in January of 2003.
00:15:24.000The Justice Department said that they then had made no final decision on the legislation and never submitted it to Congress.
00:15:32.000We have the legislative enrollment sheet.
00:15:35.000from January 6, 2003, and we had the bill then broken up and put in several bills, including the new Intelligence Act of 2003, that large sections of Patriot Act II, word for word, were passed.
00:15:48.000But many of the anti-terrorism provisions of that draft showed up in the House Discussion Draft, this is the AP, section of a Terrorism Prevention and Protection, that part of the proposed House legislation.
00:16:01.000Among the provisions are measures on the deportation of aliens who become members of or help terrorist groups.
00:16:15.000Pre-trial detention for terrorism suspects, warrants against non-citizens, even when a target can't be tied directly to a foreign government or power, and enhanced penalties for threats or attempts to use chemical or nuclear weapons against the United States, including attacks through the mail system.
00:16:33.000It actually says in there, trying to influence government.
00:16:37.000It doesn't say nuclear weapons or chemical weapons threats.
00:16:42.000I mean it does say that in some sections and then in others.
00:16:44.000I ought to get my analysis of Patriot Act II section by section and read that again on air.
00:16:51.000Just to give you an idea of just how bad it really is.
00:16:53.000A spokesman for the House Majority Leader, Tom DeLay, Republican, Texas, said Wednesday that House members were still working on the final versions of the legislation.
00:17:04.000A Justice Department spokesman said they had not seen the House draft.
00:17:08.000Republicans have hailed the Patriot Act.
00:17:14.000Republicans have hailed the Patriot Act as a critical tool in the post-September 11th war on terrorism.
00:17:19.000While many Democrats charge it authorizes heavy-handed infringements on civil liberties.
00:17:24.000Now, polls show the Patriot Act's unpopular with Republicans and Democrats.
00:17:28.000So notice how the media acts like Democrats are against it and Republicans are for it, when in truth, if you look at those who voted against it, it's about evenly split between Democrats and Republicans, and most Democrats voted for it, as well as most Republicans.
00:17:42.000So more manipulation making you think the Democrats are going to save you.
00:17:46.000On Monday, a group of 9-11 widows went door-to-door trying to get lawmakers to sign a pledge to keep Patriot Act material out of the legislation, saying the politically explosive material could doom the measure.
00:17:58.000The House is expected to begin making up the far-reaching bill next week.
00:18:03.000I know most of those widows, because we've interviewed them, most of these groups are just against the Patriot Act and say, don't use it in our name, don't destroy America in our name.
00:18:13.000But by the time it hits the AP, it's, oh, the widows don't want it because it'll hold up the rest of the legislation.
00:18:20.000House leaders are expected to take the White House suggestions on creating a national intelligence director who would control the nation's 15 intelligence agencies.
00:18:29.000The House plan would let the intelligence chief coordinate non-military spy agencies, but would limit the director's hiring and budgetary control, making that position weaker than envisioned by the 9-11 Commission and the Senate.
00:18:41.000Yeah, the Senate openly wants to just give up all their authority over a domestic CIA.
00:18:47.000A group that doesn't have any legislative or judicial control over it?
00:18:52.000Boy, that really sounds like a dictatorship, doesn't it?
00:18:55.000The House draft also addresses the other recommendations by instituting tighter controls on birth certificates and creating an electronic birth and death registration system.
00:19:26.000So the national ID card going through, domestic CIA, all Americans listed as terrorists, trying to influence government, demonstrating as terrorism, a national forced DNA database of all Americans, everything!
00:19:41.000And they're coming up with forced psychological testing, forced drugging, building more prisons, building more military cemeteries, just this is the new freedom.
00:20:11.000But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
00:20:14.000The video sheltering in place surviving acts of terrorism from biological, chemical, and radioactive fallout was developed by Wayne LeBaron, a health physicist who has served as a specialist in environmental health, communicable diseases, and has worked as a nuclear specialist for the U.S.
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00:25:08.000Yes, in fact Mr. Walters is the heir of one of the biggest home building companies in the world and he's involved in a bunch of other big businesses.
00:25:19.000And he first put ads on the eve of the Gulf War in major publications, $500,000 worth, saying it's a fraud, it's built on lies, and he was proven correct on that.
00:25:29.000And now, he's spent a million dollars on ad buys in all the major magazines and newspapers that you can think of, promoting Eric Huffschmid's 9-11 video.
00:25:50.000He made a statement I found interesting, though.
00:25:52.000He said, and he said it with venom, too.
00:25:55.000He said the problem with President Bush is he's one of those born-again right-wing Christian fundamentalist kooks who believes in the rafter and thinks he'll avoid the destruction and the misery.
00:27:04.000I think he's talking about a group called the Dominionists who believe we've got to have a world government so Jesus can come back and we've got to have things get really bad and some of the, not all of these groups, but some of these groups believe, you know, the Antichrist, we've got to bring him in, oh praise God it's coming.
00:27:20.000You know, they think it's, but then they don't fight all this evil.
00:27:26.000Right, but I mean, you know, I think we have to just make sure we keep focused on the war we're fighting, and then not worry who believes in the Rapture, who doesn't.
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00:33:44.000And also you were right about you saying that they're going to have that x-ray system where it x-rays your whole car.
00:33:51.000They're getting ready to put that in at Fort Hood, Texas.
00:33:55.000And they said, somebody told me, one of the soldiers told me that maybe Six months to a year from now it should be implemented and you are right on target.
00:34:04.000When you drive over and it takes the whole view of your car.
00:34:08.000They have those at the Republican National Convention, and they're going to set up toll roads to get into every major city, and they're going to use the funds from it to build in hardened checkpoints.
00:34:20.000I have the official federal plan from 98 on this, and they're moving forward, no matter who's in office.
00:34:24.000And they're going to have hardened checkpoints that scan your car, they're going to search you and your family.
00:34:30.000And they're going to make high schoolers serve 10 to 20 hours a week out there helping search your cars, training them how to be slave masters.
00:34:39.000I mean, again, this is out of a nightmare science fiction movie.
00:34:57.000They were setting up the infrastructure for it long before 9-11 and they said terror is coming and we're going to use this as a pretext to put in this control grid.
00:35:18.000As you may know, as of yesterday, Implemented domestically within the US, there is now a requirement Legal mandate on the part of airlines to turn over passenger flight information to the government.
00:35:31.000They're going to use it as part of a larger database.
00:35:33.000Now it won't be, you won't be able to have a driver's license under the new federal guidelines, which the AP said that they're about to pass.
00:35:40.000Part of the national ID card, you won't be able to get on a bus, train.
00:35:44.000They want to extend it to a no-ride list, which would include trains and buses.
00:35:49.000In addition to flying, and your audience must keep in mind now, you see, They're doing this to the domestic population, not foreigners now, but to you, America.
00:35:57.000Well, it's like this British guy who's a Muslim.
00:36:01.000This famous guy who a lot of Muslims don't like because he's anti-violence, he decries Al-Cieda.
00:36:08.000And then now this guy with no criminal record can't fly into the U.S.
00:36:12.000and they held him in detention and flew him back to England.
00:36:16.000And it's Ted Kennedy and it's other Congress people.
00:36:19.000There's hundreds of thousands of people on this list.
00:36:22.000Alex, as a matter of fact, I have a publication.
00:36:26.000It wasn't a publication designed for the general public.
00:36:30.000I guess it was what you call an in-house publication by the ACLU, which I obtained, called the Surveillance Industrial Complex.
00:36:37.000Now, though many people, and I myself, do have some misgivings about the ACLU, I will admit it's a situation where the broken clock has told the right time, at least on this one occasion.
00:36:47.000It's a very, very in-depth and comprehensive study.
00:36:50.000As a matter of fact, the most comprehensive and exact I've ever seen in my life about all of this.
00:37:00.000The government has these systems that they employ for CAHPS II, for instance, has a, um, what they call a black database.
00:37:08.000In other words, it's not even the records that were culled from public domain, but they're secret records to which there's no accountability.
00:37:15.000And they won't tell you if you're even on the list, there's no way to get off the list.
00:37:20.000If there's an error and you're in there by mistake, and it happens, we've heard of the cases you just cited, With Senator Ted Kennedy, regardless of what you feel about the man, he is a long-standing U.S.
00:37:31.000Well, it's like we had that former top CIA officer on just a few weeks ago, and we went over the fact that even if 1% of the data in there is wrong, and it'll be stuff like John Jones, and then you put an R in there and suddenly you're off the list because some guy named John Jones, you know, was caught money laundering a decade ago.
00:37:54.000If just 1% of it is, quote, in error, we know they put people on there on purpose, that is millions and millions of people.
00:38:02.000And then we have in Florida, They're expanding what they did in 2000.
00:38:07.000Millions of people are being taken off the voter rolls.
00:38:10.000Anybody with the last name Jones or Johnson or Brown, if anyone committed a crime with the name Jones, everyone whose name is Jones, this is in the newspaper, is not allowed to vote.
00:38:50.000We've been more concerned with sports scores and so-called reality programs with Donald Trump and a glass of beer and a hot dog and a barbecue.
00:38:59.000Then we have been involved with those things that should have been very important to us.
00:39:04.000So that made it very easy for them to do what they have done to this point.
00:39:09.000Now, I don't even know to say if it's time to wake up.
00:39:12.000I think we're past the point of waking up.
00:39:15.000It's time for us to take some type of action to oppose this.
00:39:18.000It's reached an insufferable point with this.
00:39:21.000We're just sitting back and fiddling while Rome is on fire.
00:39:31.000I appreciate your call, and you bring up really salient, central points to the true issues here.
00:39:36.000But, long before 9-11, all these databases were being set up, all these round-up plans, all these prison plans, all these forced drugging and forced psychological testing plans, all these drills that homeschooling families are terrorists and Christians are terrorists, and it's your conservative leaders that are helping expand all this right now, and conservatives out there cheerleading their own destruction!
00:40:03.000And this is going to be the new America!
00:40:06.000If you don't like taking microchips, the government's going to have terror groups that claim they're anti-microchip.
00:40:12.000They'll go out and carry out terror attacks.
00:40:14.000And then, oh, you're against taking an implantable chip?
00:40:16.000Well, you must be the person that nerve-gassed the subway.
00:40:30.000Any group they want to demonize, any group that doesn't want to go along with them, is going to have terrorism attributed to them.
00:40:35.000This is how they're going to do the whole thing.
00:40:38.000And, you know, last night I was reviewing a bunch of TV news broadcasts, a bunch of tapes I have, and I was sitting there with some folks that I'm going to make a new film with, and they just said, gosh, when did we become a nation of, like, fat stupid chickens?
00:42:50.000Well, there just so happens to be a terror group that just hacked the computers Brought down, you know, the power in Chicago, and they killed dozens because of it.
00:43:00.000Are you part of the group that's against internet tracking and taxation?
00:43:04.000Are you with the groups that are... See, this is how it's all going to work.
00:43:07.000And until we figure that out... Notice the more freedoms you give up, the more terror we have.
00:43:14.000And then the more liberty we have to give up yet again.
00:43:28.000We interview all the visa folks who are still being ordered to let in Muslims with terrorist connections, but then you as a citizen are being thumb scanned and face scanned when you leave the country, or when you get your driver's license, but then illegal aliens are given a waiver by President Bush that was in the news earlier this year.
00:43:44.000They don't have to, but you do as a citizen.
00:43:55.000Thank you and let you know that you inspired me to call the CBS television station here in town when I saw that horrible piece on how mercury is good for your children.
00:44:17.000Alright, I was watching your television show the other night and you replayed a CBS news clip On how the American Pediatric Association was saying that mercury in the vaccines is actually good for our children and it causes improved behavior.
00:44:34.000And so I called, you inspired me to call the radio station here in Austin and tell them that I was very disturbed by that news report and that I was actually furious that they should be telling people that mercury in the vaccines is good for them.
00:44:50.000And the reporter, I was able to talk to the reporter, Seema Mathur, And she said that was an actual story that came down from like CBS headquarters.
00:45:13.000And again, see, I don't make this up, folks.
00:45:16.000There were memos that went out to all the big newspapers and all the big TV stations that go on television a month ago and say, it's the law, you've got to vaccinate your child or you'll be arrested.
00:45:27.000There is no law anywhere in the country, but I saw On hundreds of ABC and CBS and NBC and Fox affiliates, scanning the news wires on local news stations, the same reports, the same text, just with the local officials' names changed.
00:45:44.000That's what your local news is turned into.
00:45:46.000And the CBS broadcast center in Manhattan has ABC, CBS and Fox all together in the same building.
00:45:54.000And they admittedly, this is four years ago, Codify all the big local news stories there, and it's a CIA operation!
00:46:02.000So what did you think of me making that announcement?
00:46:04.000This was obviously a memo from on high and then you say, now you call radio or TV?
00:46:08.000I called the television station here and I talked to the actual local reporter.
00:46:12.000And did you tell the reporter that everybody knows mercury isn't good for you?
00:46:17.000Yes, I said, well I quoted her two different studies.
00:46:20.000I happen to be progressive and there's an excellent study in the Mother Jones magazine this March-April and it's all about mercury and your In your children's vaccines, and the conspiracy of government, and the CDC, and the pharmaceutical industries, and the doctors.
00:46:39.000Hey listen, we have the CDC's own document where it says I wouldn't give it to my child, it's deadly, millions have been brain damaged.
00:47:03.000And now they've been told we were wrong.
00:47:05.000Mercury isn't just okay, it's nutritional.
00:47:08.000Yes, I told her about your show and I told her that you had said that we actually had to pass a law in Texas stating that they cannot give us immunizations and she said she reported on that.
00:47:19.000And then she got a bunch of phone calls from our Austin Independent School District complaining about her show.
00:47:25.000And so then CBS wanted to do what they referred to as a valid study, an alternative point of view.
00:47:32.000And I said, how can you say this is a valid study?
00:47:34.000And I want to know what the sources for this study were.
00:47:48.000There was actually the federal study saying how wonderful mercury is for you.
00:47:54.000So I've got a copy of the study and it just, it's the way they went out and sampled children and said, oh well they have vaccines and they're doing good in school, it must be good for your brain.
00:48:25.000And she said that we can call CBS, the bureau line, the CBS bureau line in New York City and complain to them about these so-called medical watch stories that come down the line and go filter out across the whole United States, you know, funded by probably the pharmaceutical industry.
00:48:47.000Half the ads, half the ads are drug ads.
00:48:51.000Do you have that number in front of you?
00:48:54.000Yes, if you want to call the CBS Bureau line and complain about their so-called news stories and medical watch stories, it's area code 212-975-3247.
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00:50:11.000And so then I started noticing years ago that I would see, you know, a CBS website from say Florida and a CBS website from Austin and it'd be the exact same text but with a local byline.
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00:55:08.000By very definition of the old definition of terrorism, the new definition is any misdemeanor or any suspicion of a misdemeanor is an act of terrorism.
00:55:17.000Under the old definition, it was carrying out violent attacks on individuals or populations or threatening violent acts to get a desired political outcome or financial gain.
00:55:28.000And that's what the government's doing.
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00:59:42.000And she has written this new book, The Case for Internment.
00:59:47.000And it gets into the history of the Japanese and other people being put in internment camps during World War II versus Middle Easterners or Arabs today.
00:59:58.000And Michelle, it's good to have you on with us.
01:00:03.000We don't have much time to get into a bunch of history here, but... So your book, I've got a copy of it, I've read part of it, your book is saying that I mean, are you saying we should put Arabs in camps?
01:00:15.000No, no, that's not what I'm saying at all, and I try to make that explicitly clear throughout the book.
01:00:22.000I'm not saying that we should do what we did during World War II, but I wrote the book because I kept hearing from a lot of the critics of the Bush administration's homeland security policies that everything that President Bush and his homeland security officials were trying to do was equated to the Japanese-American internment during World War II.
01:00:42.000And basically, the ACLU, a lot of these ethnic grievance groups, have tried to oppose any kind of common sense threat profiling today because they think it's tantamount to the World War II internment and therefore we should never repeat the mistakes of the past.
01:01:00.000And this internment card has scared away law enforcement officials from doing what they need to do to fight the enemies from within.
01:01:09.000We are at war, after all, with militant Islamic terrorists, and I think that there are too many people out there, including some people in the Bush administration, unfortunately, who don't want to name our enemies and take the kind of Common sense measures that we need to take to protect ourselves against them.
01:01:25.000And look at someone like Norm Mineta, who's the head of the Department of Transportation.
01:01:32.000During World War II, he was evacuated from the West Coast under the Roosevelt policies, and he spent a couple of years in a relocation camp.
01:01:39.000And because of his own misunderstanding of history, he has blocked any kind of profiling at the airport that takes into account things like race or nationality or religion.
01:01:49.000And I think it's that kind of mentality that is going to cause another September 11th in this country.
01:01:55.000Well, Michelle, what I think is going to cause another September 11th is the fact that our borders are wide open, and that we've still got even supposed allies that have been caught aiding terrorists.
01:02:09.000I mean, this whole Caps 2 system, they've been caught putting people on there for absolutely no reason.
01:02:24.000One, I absolutely agree with you about the border, and that was the theme of my first book, Invasion, that immigration has to be treated as a national security issue.
01:02:32.000But there's a connection to my new book as well, because, look, there are limited resources.
01:02:39.000There are 13 million illegal aliens in this country, and if you're going to start deporting them, which we need to do, where should you start?
01:02:47.000My proposition is that we start with illegal aliens who come from countries that are at the highest risk of terrorism.
01:02:53.000Places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and Morocco.
01:02:55.000But we can't even do that because the ACLU and a lot of these groups are the first to shout that it's profiling, it's profiling, we can't do it.
01:03:02.000Well look, these people are already here illegally.
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01:03:16.000But again, you can't do that because you have the open borders lobby screaming and shouting that it's somehow an infringement on the civil rights of people who don't even belong here in the first place.
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01:07:04.000Okay, I agree with Michelle Malkin about the invasion, about the open borders, about the 30 million illegal aliens that are in this country.
01:07:12.000I mean, the Houston Chronicle a month ago said 400,000 illegals with criminal records, the feds ordered their jails just to release people.
01:07:21.000It's out of control, but then she has this book with a shocking title, The Case for Internment, and Michelle, the reason people are probably freaking out over your book is folks like Michael Savage, he says, bring back the sedition laws, arrest those that criticize the government, because that aids terrorists.
01:07:49.000As I say, I'm not advocating that we do the same thing during World War II.
01:07:54.000I'm not saying that we should do that today.
01:07:56.000But I'm saying that we have to think very carefully about how we deal with potential fifth columnists in this country, potential subversives, particularly when they have American citizenship.
01:08:05.000And unfortunately, we're not able to have a rational debate about that right now.
01:08:10.000Look, the Bush administration has put forth a proposal about what we should do.
01:08:19.000They have an enemy combatant policy that was upheld by the Supreme Court.
01:08:23.000And yet, even a lot of these people on the left who do say they want to wage a war on terror and make sure that we're safe, have no alternative.
01:08:41.000Okay, well let's take that right there.
01:08:42.000If they've got evidence of Jose Padilla with a plan with a dirty bomb, which has pretty much been discredited, this guy can barely tie his shoelaces, I guarantee you a jury of his peers would give that guy the death penalty.
01:09:09.000You know they've been using the Patriot Act in non-terror-related cases.
01:09:13.000Well, no, I'm not stupid, and I would like to ask you where you got your information that the dirty bomb plot has been discredited.
01:09:20.000Well, I mean, it's come out that he didn't have any of the materials, that the people that he was supposedly meeting with weren't even connected to real Al-Qaeda groups, that he just shot his mouth off, that he was this ex-con from prison, and that the guy's got about an 85 IQ.
01:09:45.000And the fact is that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, in interrogations at KSM, who is in custody, thank God, and is giving us vital information that's helping us uncover other terrorist plots, has said that one of the things that he tried to do was send Jose Padilla, who has met with apparently a lot of high-ranking al-Qaeda operatives and was deeply engaged in this plot KSM had wanted to send him where?
01:10:12.000Across the border and I think it just underscores a point of agreement that we do have which is that borders are extremely vulnerable and that al-Qaeda has long seen the Mexican border as the path of least resistance.
01:10:23.000Well I agree with that but let's go back for a second.
01:10:25.000Okay, I've got the Las Vegas Review-Journal, I've got the Associated Press, I've got conservative writers with the reports of how the Patriot Act's being used against 17-year-old pot dealers, county commissioners, The Justice Department, the Washington Times said, yeah, we're going to use this in all cases.
01:10:44.000Of course we're going to use these tools.
01:10:46.000And Section 802 of the Patriot Act, a new definition of terrorism, says any action that endangers human life, that's a violation of any federal or state law.
01:10:54.000I mean, that is way, way, way too broad to give a citizen an enemy combatant designation.
01:11:01.000Well, I think that you misunderstand what the Patriot Act does and doesn't do.
01:11:04.000The Patriot Act has nothing to do with the enemy combatant policy.
01:11:09.000Actually, in Patriot Act 2, Section 501 does, and no, it's the definition of terrorism, and then if they can define you as a potential terrorist, under the wide definition in Section 802, then they can give you the enemy combatant designation.
01:11:24.000The enemy combatant policy is separate from the Patriot Act.
01:11:27.000Now, I can talk about the Patriot Act if that's what you want to talk about.
01:11:31.000It really isn't the subject of my book, but I think that a lot of the updating that has been done with regard to surveillance was quite necessary.
01:11:37.000We've had a Cold War mentality in this country, and we have to deal with the 21st century That's the reality of Islamofascism and I think the Patriot Act did a good job of doing that.
01:11:46.000Are there law enforcement officials at the local, state, and federal level that might possibly abuse the Patriot Act?
01:11:51.000But if you disarm Homeland Security officials and give them no tools at all, and only foolproof tools, they'll have nothing.
01:12:00.000Well, Michelle, look, long before 9-11, and I've made films of this, I would go out and videotape the Marines with role players training to round up people to lock down cities.
01:12:10.000It's been in the mainstream news about the drills.
01:12:16.000That's why it concerns people when we start seeing All of this anti-terror stuff can be turned against mainline American people.
01:12:24.000I'm sure you saw the World Net Daily article where they did a drill where homeschooler advocates attacked the school bus and then homeschoolers are terrorists.
01:12:35.000But I made a film two and a half years ago.
01:12:37.000I have training manuals under Clinton, training manuals under Bush.
01:12:40.000I will get them to you if you'd like, where they do list homeschoolers and constitutionalists and those that make frequent references to the U.S.
01:13:07.000Yeah, well, all I'm asking for people to do is, as I say, read the book with an open mind.
01:13:13.000It is not simply a case of knee-jerk racism or bigotry that led to what happened during World War II.
01:13:19.000There was a vast amount of intelligence that undergirded the decision, and I think that we have to have the proper perspective about what the balance is between civil liberties and national security.
01:13:29.000And the book is the case for internment, and it's published by who?
01:13:41.000Well, look, Michelle, I'll send you all this information, but are you aware of the Civilian Inmate Labor Program that's been going on since 1996?
01:13:55.000Well, it started back in the 80s and then it got declassified in 97 and there are 12 US Army bases using federal inmate labor secretly until 97.
01:14:07.000It was going on since the mid-80s at these bases and I'm telling you that we've got Mr. Calhoun, the Deputy Attorney General of California, a Democrat, who said in the Major newspaper last year in the Oakland Tribune, he said, you know, we need to look at arresting protesters because by protesting the war, they're aiding terrorists.
01:14:27.000And then we got Michael Savage saying the same thing.
01:14:29.000So that's why I think people get so upset when you put out a book called The Case for Internment because there are these other voices out there saying that if you disagree with the government, you're seditious, you should be put in a camp.
01:14:43.000Actually, the name of the book is In Defense of Internment, The Case for, quote-unquote, Racial Profiling for World War II, and The War on Terror.
01:15:05.000I've seen Sean Hannity go, well, this lady thinks we might need to put people in camps.
01:15:09.000And then by the end of it, he goes, oh, I'm convinced.
01:15:12.000You just want to profile and keep us all safe.
01:15:15.000Look, we hear about CAPS II, where all these innocent people are in it, and they're putting all this secret data in there, but you're saying they're not even able to do that.
01:15:24.000Well, they won't even tell us what they're doing, Michelle.
01:15:28.000There's been plenty of exposition of the CAPS II program, and the CAPS II program underscores some of what I'm saying is the problem, because instead of targeting Specific countries and targeting specific people who fit certain profiles, we're doing the opposite.
01:15:44.000And I think that that's part of the problem.
01:15:46.000It's that political correctness is coloring our mindset and hampering what we need to do.
01:15:52.000Instead of going after people who come from countries that are at high risk of terrorism or countries that are on the designated state sponsor list of terrorism from the State Department, instead of doing that, You know, instead of targeting, we have these broad, sweeping programs.
01:16:27.000Well, it was supposedly 19 foreigners that did this, so how did every American become a suspect on September 12th?
01:16:35.000Because we've been unwilling to do what we need to do, which is to be honest about identifying the enemy, i.e.
01:16:41.000Islamic extremism, and taking steps to protect ourselves against it.
01:16:46.000FBI agents are not allowed to go to mosques and surveil and do what they need to do to gather information without being accused of being jackbooted thugs and bigots.
01:16:56.000But then they're able to go to peace meetings.
01:16:59.000But then they're able to go to peace meetings and question people who at the gym said that, and I've read those articles, it's not just in Michael Moore's film, they go question some old white guy who said he thinks the war is wrong.
01:17:12.000Well, as I was trying to explain, this is why we end up at the airport with grandmas and toddlers being groped.
01:17:19.000While we have a reverse profiling policy that punishes airlines for pulling over people from Arab countries for secondary questioning.
01:17:27.000It is not a constitutional crisis or civil liberties nightmare to say to people, you will come under extra scrutiny and we apologize for any inconvenience.
01:17:35.000Well, Michelle, can I get you back up for maybe 30 minutes sometime so we can debate this properly because, you know, I agree with some of what you said.
01:17:43.000I disagree with a lot of it because I don't think you see the motives.
01:17:46.000The government isn't making a mistake here.
01:17:49.000They want to use this against the general public.
01:18:07.000Right, well, I see your point of view, and I certainly share some of your concerns about abuses by government.
01:18:14.000I mean, before September 11th, I was a staunch Libertarian.
01:18:17.000I voted for the Libertarian Party, and I remain dissatisfied with many of the aspects of how the Bush administration is running the war on terror at home.
01:18:25.000Okay, well, Michelle, you were a lot more honest on the air with us and fair with us than Ann Coulter.
01:18:31.000And I want to get you back up sometime so we can take some calls.
01:18:34.000And I did see you get heckled there in Berkeley on C-SPAN.
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01:23:09.000We were going to have her on longer, but somehow we got the times messed up, and she was supposed to be on the first hour, so we just had Michelle Malkin on for 20 minutes, but When you get an Ann Coulter on, I said, have you read the Patriot Act?
01:23:25.000She's going, oh, the Patriot Act doesn't take any of your freedoms.
01:23:57.000Because everything she puts into her argument is based on a fraud.
01:24:00.000That the government wasn't involved in 9-11.
01:24:03.000That giving up liberty gives us security.
01:24:06.000And it's part of this backdrop of the case for internment camps.
01:24:13.000You've got this backdrop of people like Savage and Many others out there saying how good it is.
01:24:20.000If you disagree with the government, you should be put in a forced labor camp.
01:24:23.000And we have the governor of Rhode Island coming out, what, five months ago and trying to get a bill passed that actually said that you don't have any rights and if you criticize the government, you're put in a camp.
01:24:33.000It was actually in their major newspapers!
01:24:36.000And then he apologized and said, I hadn't read it.
01:24:39.000Homeland Security and my staff gave me this.
01:25:12.000Malkin's book just goes towards doing that.
01:25:16.000She's somebody that looks at the government, not profiling who the supposed terrorists are, but treating everyone as if they're a terrorist, and she goes, well then let's just go after them.
01:25:24.000Lady, it's been done by design, and she didn't know what to say to that, because she knows it's true!
01:25:32.000And by the way, most Muslims aren't terrorists either.
01:25:34.000You have some copycat idiots who can be provocateured into carrying out terror attacks, or trying to, Well, we've caught the government doing that.
01:25:44.000Cooking bombs, training drivers, creating fake Klan groups, creating fake Hispanic groups, trying to get them to carry out terror, trying to get Muslims to do stuff.
01:25:55.000World Trade Center bombing won, Viper Militia, the Klan up in Dallas, the FBI got a Bumsteer Award, it's in my film The Takeover, a big insult here in Texas, a Bumsteer Award from Texas Monthly for creating a Klan group and trying to get them to blow up a chemical plant.
01:26:11.000But they were so stupid they couldn't get them to successfully do it, so they went ahead and busted them.
01:26:18.000Having FBI agents and informants lead groups, they form It's a joke!
01:26:25.000It's about creating fear, so you submit!
01:26:30.000Their arguments are based on a fraud, and I think, I don't think Malkin, who used to write great articles just three years ago, you heard her, well I used to be a libertarian, but now I, after 9-11, I... So see, I don't think she's evil, I think she's one of the dupes, one of the useful idiots.
01:27:06.000I tell you what, that Michelle Malcolm, man, that was an incredible interview.
01:27:10.000I don't know if you know it or not, but a lot of your off-air conversation with her was bleeding over on the air, so you might want to let your engineer know about that.
01:27:19.000Yeah, we need to work on stuff like that.
01:27:22.000I didn't want you to get embarrassed or anything.
01:27:25.000I was at church just last Sunday and I picked up a tape of your road to tyranny from a friend that I had lent it to and he was just, I mean, he just couldn't believe it.
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01:31:50.000All right, let's go back to Michael in Hawaii. let's go back to Michael in Hawaii.
01:32:10.000Michael, go ahead and finish up the points you were making.
01:32:13.000Second point, I really appreciate you having that reporter on that was Jelfer Heckling.
01:32:18.000When I read that article over last week and I immediately emailed it to you because I thought, man, this guy would be a great guest and I'm really excited to hear him coming on.
01:32:26.000Last comment, On this internet too, it really concerns me.
01:32:31.000What do you foresee that a lot of us that listen to your show like on the internet and that use the internet extensively, what do you think is going to happen to those of us who realize what's going on with this new world order?
01:32:47.000And don't want to be, you know, constantly monitored and everything.
01:32:49.000I mean, my first thought is, well, I guess I'm just going to have to give up use of the internet if I'm going to have to have all this, you know, ID and stuff.
01:33:26.000Now they're going to tax and trace and control it.
01:33:28.000But there is going to be a massive, massive Revolt against this and there's going to be all sorts of BBS systems and the older systems and the older networks are still going to be used and people are going to revolt and fight against this.
01:33:43.000They can be announcing that they want to try to do this.
01:33:46.000We have to counter them because they're saying we're going to save the internet.
01:35:03.000I tell you what, sitting here in Hawaii and doing my work and listening to the stimulating conversation and knowing that, hey, you know, you don't scream people, you just let them get on and you've got these guests.
01:35:16.000I tell you what, keep up the good work and we'll continue to watch your western front out here.
01:35:22.000Let me try to calmly explain Internet to you.
01:35:26.000I'm here in Austin, kind of like the Silicon Hills of Central Texas.
01:35:34.000And so there's all these computers, and computer engineering, and software engineer, and network engineer people around me.
01:35:41.000And about 4 or 5 years ago they started saying, they're going to have a new internet, and it's going to be taxed and controlled, and only a few companies that already control the internet's major gates, or major ports, but there's about 22 of them, those companies are going to force you onto their system.
01:36:02.000And they're going to tax and trace and control.
01:36:05.000Well, then a few years ago we learned the name of it.
01:36:24.000But the big companies that run the gates and run the networks, and I listed the five companies, they've got a solution with big universities and companies, internet too, and you'll just go through them.
01:36:37.000Well, look at who's making this statement.
01:36:40.000The very people that control the gates, that control the backbone, the hubs, The Central Connectivity Points of the Internet, they're saying, oh, Internet One's going to die.
01:36:51.000We're going to have to take control of it for you, though, in a way to save it and to keep you safe from terrorists.
01:37:37.000And that's why there's an article here, let me find it, out of the Broadband Reports, saying Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor of California, this demon, has come out and he has said that he signed today, this morning, this bill.
01:37:56.000That will make you have an internet ID number to basically do anything.
01:38:02.000And they go, well, how is he going to regulate that?
01:38:04.000No one knows how this is going to be done.
01:38:10.000And so they're going to take all of this traffic.
01:38:13.000Folks, my website isn't even in the top 20 of patriot, you know, real conservative websites.
01:38:19.000Libertarian websites, whatever you want to call them.
01:38:22.000And it gets tens of millions of individual visitors a month, conservatively.
01:38:28.000We are doubling the number of users and visitors we have to the websites each and every year.
01:38:37.000It's more than doubled in the last nine, ten months.
01:38:42.000And all the sites that are updated daily, that have good content, are exploding.
01:38:49.000Again, I have read in the last few months, university, federal studies, industry studies, and depending on which one you look at, the lowest number is 38, the highest number is 45.
01:39:17.000I watch tapes of stuff you tape and send to me, and I watch news clips online, or you know, I go and I read.
01:39:23.000In the time it takes for me to watch an hour-long newscast, I can look at what all the newscasts were, and look at the summations of the text or the transcripts of what they said.
01:39:44.000And so, they're going to go terrorist hack the internet.
01:39:48.000It says in the article, because of terror attacks and because of more people in the third world signing on, it just can't handle all the traffic and it's going to die.
01:40:28.000California law makes email file swappers provide name, address.
01:40:33.000Previously discussed, California lawmakers have been tossing around the idea of forcing anyone who sends a commercial video or audio file via the internet to include their name and address with the transfer.
01:40:45.000Apparently, the law Has been passed, SB 1506 by Governor Schwarzenegger, the Gropinator, and violating it would be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $2,500 and or up to one year in prison.
01:41:00.000It is not clear how technically they hope to enforce such a law.
01:41:04.000And what this does is it makes music swappers or downloaders, that's what it's really targeting, criminals!
01:41:11.000And they'll grab, you know, the music industry's followed suit on thousands of people now, in several big waves.
01:41:17.000Those who 700 here, 500 there, 200 here.
01:42:01.000We've got to create sections on all our websites about this and start educating people and showing the conflict of interest of the people who own the backbone of the net, the big universities and five major companies who we've listed here.
01:42:15.000I can dig the Forbes article back out.
01:42:17.000And show how they are telling you it's going to die, Internet 1, but don't worry, we'll force you on Internet 2.
01:42:44.000So we better think about this, because see, we could build our own networks, our own systems, they're already there for the internet, but they go through these switching hubs.
01:42:53.000And so by not upgrading the switching hubs, they're going to let it die, and they're going to force you onto their new hub!
01:43:02.000Okay, I've been ranting about this enough.
01:43:50.000And the fact of the insider stock trading that took place on September 7th and September 10th, which is on your website under 9-1-1 prior knowledge, where our CIA and no one else knew that September 11th attacks were going to happen, Yet people conspired to make 225 million dollars off the stock market on the death of the fireman and police officer.
01:44:13.000Well that was just some of the trades.
01:44:15.000It was actually in the billions of dollars and we all heard, we'd be able to find out who did it the first few days because of these record put options and then when it led back to the CIA, that story totally and completely and instantly disappeared off of newspaper headlines, disappeared from the newspapers period.
01:44:33.000But being in New York, And to see how far away Building 7 was from Towers 1 and 2.
01:44:40.000To see how buildings owned by other people, right next to Tower 1 and 2, North and South, weren't even damaged, or in some cases were slightly damaged.
01:44:49.000And then to see how later that afternoon, this building that wasn't even touched, catches on fire and then magically collapses.
01:44:56.000When I talk to people about what happened on September 11th, for instance, your last guest there, she wants to label the Evil Saudi Arabian people that are terrorists, where I say, no, look at the stock trading, follow the money trail, and look at the guy who... Can the Saudis make NORAD stand down?
01:45:15.000Can the Saudis run five drills on the morning of 9-11 of flying hijacked jets into buildings?
01:45:40.000Can the Saudis come to actor James Woods, who saw five of the hijackers, and said, these guys were trying to hijack a week before?
01:45:47.000Can the Saudis have the FBI come and threaten James Woods to keep his mouth shut?
01:45:52.000And for the people who are just tuning in today, this is all on Alex's website, all documented, all facts.
01:45:59.000On the prior 9-1-1... Larry Silverstein says they blew it up!
01:46:04.000I mean, you can't... We don't just have the firefighters saying that they were ordered to blow it up.
01:46:08.000We don't just have firefighters telling AP reporters to get back.
01:46:11.000We don't just have Giuliani saying that he got an anonymous phone call and got told to get out of Building 7 before it collapsed and caught fire.
01:46:44.000In fact, Paul Watson, I know you're listening, you usually are.
01:46:47.000Hey, you've got Paul Watson's number there in front of you, don't you?
01:46:52.000Yeah, give him a call, because I meant to do this last night.
01:46:54.000I was working so hard on a new film and five other things I forgot.
01:46:57.000Ask if the new weekly report's been uploaded yet, and in that weekly report, tell him ten minutes in I played the CBS News clip locally saying Mercury's nutritious and now is a vitamin for your children.
01:47:11.000He heard the caller last hour and saw it, but have him isolate that clip if he can and get it posted, because I'm going to try to play that in the third hour, please.
01:47:48.000Yeah, I called you yesterday about that police department in Pennsylvania.
01:47:52.000They didn't like cameras in their bathroom to watch them, which I said I think is horrible.
01:47:56.000There shouldn't be cameras watching police in the bathrooms, but they always do it to the enforcers first, so they'll be happy to enforce it on us.
01:48:45.000This town, the police department discovered these cameras.
01:48:51.000In their locker room, all throughout the whole thing.
01:48:54.000And the other thing that was infuriating, the people, they had a huge demonstration outside of the city council meeting the other night because... Oh, I've got to have this.
01:49:03.000They spent close to $10,000 of the taxpayer money without telling them what they were doing.
01:49:07.000And this is a small borough, they don't have... Well, I want to know why the cops are upset.
01:49:10.000I've seen at least 15 school districts with cameras in the showers.
01:49:17.000So, um, the follow-up so far is that they only have one female officer.
01:49:23.000So I think that she's... Hey, why is it always okay for men to be seen naked?
01:49:27.000I've seen these articles where they let the women reporters into the men's showers in professional golf and football, but then a man tries to go in the woman's shower and is arrested.
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01:52:57.000We're talking to Megan in Pennsylvania.
01:52:59.000Megan, give me the name of the newspaper, the name of the town, and then run through just exactly what happened for folks, and I'm gonna get this news article, but tell us the name of the newspaper.
01:53:09.000Okay, it's called the Delaware County Times, and it's at www.delcotimes.com.
01:53:20.000And it's actually the front page story on that website today, a follow-up story.
01:53:24.000So it's still at DelcoTimes.com, still the top story.
01:53:27.000I want this posted immediately to my webmasters, calling all cars.
01:53:31.000I want this up now, and I want to post under it all the articles we can find with the cameras in the 11-year-old girls and boys showers in Tennessee and Texas and New York and California.
01:53:44.000And then I want to ask people, are we radical?
01:53:47.000We think that Having drills where homeschoolers are terrorists is wrong.
01:53:52.000We think telling the people that mercury is nutritious for children is wrong.
01:53:56.000We think cameras in school and police bathrooms are wrong.
01:54:39.000Yesterday, when I was on the phone with you actually, George Bush was at Valley Forge Park, which is about two miles from my home.
01:54:46.000And even though NORAD wasn't able to intercept any of these planes on September 11th, some poor old man went up in his private plane and NORAD was able to scramble two F-16s To shoot flares at him and get him to land.
01:55:01.000I saw that when I was in a restaurant last night on the TV set.
01:55:17.000I'll just follow up with you because I've written several articles for some local magazines on Yeah, if you want us to post them we'll do it.
01:55:27.000You'll get a lot of readers, at least a few hundred thousand.
01:55:34.000I mean, if I start hyperventilating, folks, I love freedom, and the tyranny has just gotten so stupid, it's so ridiculous, how can other people not see this?
01:55:44.000And they're about to take the internet away from us, they're taking talk radio away from us, they're taking access TV away from us, right at the time that everybody's starting to listen.
01:55:55.000I just want to thank all the AM and FM affiliates we've got.
01:56:59.0003139 please call please get the videos please get them out to people please make copies it's having an effect 1 triple 8 2 5 3 3 1 3 9 or just write to me I'm Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar sweet 100 Austin Texas 7 8 7 0 4 he It is up to you to stand in the gap against this tyranny, to expose these killers.
01:57:26.000If you don't do it, cameras in the bathrooms, forced inoculations, giant prisons everywhere, satellite tracking and taxing in your cars, that's the future if we don't stop them.
01:59:58.000Literally, opened my mouth for the first time.
02:00:01.000I was responding to a Yankees fan, who, as he was leaving the stadium, he was just saying, you know, Yankees, first place, blah, blah, blah.
02:02:04.000I don't plan on attending any more Major League Games.
02:02:06.000The main point that I'm trying to make, and why I'm glad to get this story out here, is these ballparks are located in urban areas.
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02:06:25.000Went to a Yankees game and a Yankees fan was heckling them and he just said, hey, look at the scoreboard.
02:06:31.000So an usher ran up, began screaming at him and I want to go back through that story and then describe what happened in his 20 plus hours inside the prison hell.
02:07:52.000Really, the whole thing I remember is just this usher three feet from my face just yelling at me while these two police officers were escorting me out of the section.
02:08:52.000And this one officer jumped me, threw me against the wall, handcuffed me, turned around, With just the most gleeful, gleeful look on his face.
02:09:03.000And said, you got any more comments to make about that usher?
02:09:23.000I believe that was in the Washington Times.
02:09:26.000Uh, but, I mean, I see these type of articles every day now around the country, where you don't even argue, they just say you're disrespectful.
02:09:33.000See, oh, there's this new charge, resisting without violence, where if you don't just say the right thing, you get charged with resisting arrest.
02:09:43.000It's just crazy, and the thing that really disturbed me the most,
02:09:47.000uh... maybe in the whole situation with how happy that uh... that we've got this this isn't a judgment call my part he was beaming he was really happy that he was going to be arresting me and sending me to baltimore central lockup and you know even if you want to go out on a limb and say i deserve to be arrested i just think it's a disturbing situation when police officers are taking satisfaction in arresting non-violent, totally non-violent citizens that was very disturbing.
02:10:14.000What did they say they arrested you for?
02:10:17.000Uh, well the charge was criminal trespassing because technically they threw me out of the game and I tried to go back in.
02:10:50.000The one thing I recall, actually my boss at the Washington Times, they had a Washington Times outing the game before in that series, and my boss was at the game, and he couldn't believe the messages on the jumbotron.
02:11:03.000Just, you know, the corporate pleasant messages.
02:11:06.000We'll hope you're enjoying your stay at Camden Yards.
02:11:09.000Please report any unpleasant experiences immediately to the usher.
02:11:27.000Since 9-11, there's this atmosphere of we're all under attack.
02:11:32.000And so because there's no real terrorism materializing, it's just this attitude of us against them.
02:11:37.000And I was telling you during the break, Joe Schaefer, editor with the Washington Times who went through this, now there's been more cases of it, is why he's written this great article.
02:11:48.000When I was in New York, short hair, dress shirt, dress slacks...
02:11:53.000I'd be five miles from Madison Square Garden interviewing people.
02:11:57.000And police would run over, scream at me, threaten to arrest me.
02:12:38.000And I felt like I was living in a total police state, and none of it had anything to do with terrorism.
02:12:45.000It's crazy, and I can only speak for the Mid-Atlantic because I don't have this wealth of experiences from around the country.
02:12:51.000But the police, I don't want to say all of them like you said, but they're very adversarial.
02:12:56.000It's almost a hostility when you come across the police in this area.
02:13:00.000I hate to say they're all like that, but I can tell you some, just off the top of my head, I can tell you some experiences that people I know have had with police that are terrifying.
02:13:09.000Well listen, twenty years ago, cops had people bring them pieces of pie, coffee, they were loved, just like firemen.
02:13:17.000You don't see that now, and all over the country they're training them to have an us-against-them mentality.
02:13:22.000You defend the state, you defend the government.
02:13:24.000The people are, you know, gotta be watched and controlled.
02:13:27.000And I don't know why cops want to play into this mentality.
02:13:31.000So what are some of the experiences you've gone through?
02:13:33.000Well, if I could tell a story, Alex, if you give me a minute.
02:13:37.000Something happened to my brother that was just, this was a couple years ago.
02:13:42.000He was driving to work on the Beltway, 8 o'clock in the morning, sunshine, daylight, driving to work, shirt and tie.
02:13:51.000My brother's been called a lot of things in his life, menacing is not one of them.
02:13:56.000He's 6'0", 160 pounds, wears glasses, he's not a physically intimidating specimen.
02:14:01.000So he's driving to work, he gets pulled over for whatever it was, maybe speeding, I don't know, which is fine.
02:14:10.000But he was on an exit ramp as the police car came to pull him over.
02:14:14.000He didn't know that you're supposed to stop on an exit ramp.
02:14:18.000There's no bit, you know, shoulder or anything.
02:14:21.000If he stopped, all the cars behind him are going to have trouble getting off the exit ramp.
02:14:24.000So he waits until he gets off the exit ramp.
02:14:27.000And as he's just about getting off the exit ramp, the officer behind him through a bullhorn says, Pull over now!
02:15:07.000This officer comes to the window, points a loaded gun at my brother's head for a full minute, and he starts screaming, just like this usher in Baltimore.
02:15:18.000Red face, spit coming out of his mouth.
02:15:27.000You know, while he's going, my brother thought he was having a breakdown, and while he's going through this breakdown, he's pointing a loaded gun at my brother's head.
02:15:36.000That was just amazing, and my brother told our friends and stuff about that, and the reaction generally was, oh yeah, that's how police are these days.
02:16:45.000Where did this adversarial relationship come from?
02:16:47.000We've had a lot of police, former commanders and trainers and colonels on.
02:16:52.000They've been told we're a thin blue line, we're under attack, they all hate us, so we've got to go against them and stick together, and they don't like us and they're bad.
02:17:00.000You know, keep civilization going by doing this, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, then we start heading the police, and it just snowballs.
02:17:09.000It's amazing, and it's filtered into other parts of life.
02:17:12.000Do you recall, I think it was this summer, around June, some Utah baseball players, University of Utah, did a college prank.
02:17:20.000They painted, like, some red U's on the big BYU sign out there by their campus.
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02:25:14.000The letters we got from this article was people were talking about airport scanners, people were talking about rental car agents.
02:25:21.000There just seems to be a petty tyranny going on.
02:25:25.000And the thing that surprised me... But see, you just hit on something here instinctively.
02:25:28.000That's what tyranny is, is they build a system, they find the control freaks, they people it with those control freaks, and the good cops and the good bureaucrats get forced out.
02:25:39.000Okay, Alex, so how does that filter down to, let's take baseball ushers for example, because we had people from Oakland, Phoenix, other people wrote in and said, you know, we had similar experiences with these ushers.
02:25:50.000They're hostile, they're aggressive, and they're supposed to be customer service personnel.
02:26:11.000And the only thing I could say in reply to that is they need a captive audience to get away with that.
02:26:17.000And that is why I will not go to another Major League Baseball game.
02:26:20.000I did not realize you have no constitutional rights once you pay for your ticket.
02:26:24.000So I refuse to be a captive audience at the whim of someone like that.
02:26:28.000But you know, that's part of this trend where the big corporations are buying up everything and have their own private sidewalks in between buildings in New York and, oh, you can't have a camera on our private sidewalk, which is the exit for a bus terminal.
02:26:57.000So every time one of these incidents happen, like the one that happened recently with the player throwing the chair into the crowd at Oakland, they're going to instinctively react to that.
02:27:12.000Well, Joe Schaefer, editor with the Washington Times, also writes for WorldTribune.com, article is heckling a Yankees fan, landed editor in a Baltimore prison in hell.
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02:31:06.000They have ID cards, badges, a thumb scan to get school lunches, not just here but in the UK and Europe as well.
02:31:12.000It's the same systems and the children are the counselors are nothing but like You know, East German tattletale officers, you go in and they ask questions about your parents.
02:31:23.000Most schools in the 7th or 8th grade, most public schools, have a local sheriff's deputy who's part of a federal grant where it's a semester mandatory class where you write, quote, journals about your family life and they read over those or you do it on a laptop computer.
02:31:37.000Now they're going to have forced psychological testing, forced drugging, 15% of the children already on these drugs.
02:31:45.000You're starting to get a picture, you think it's bad now.
02:31:48.000Your children are being trained how to be slaves, and they don't know how to come home and articulate this to you.
02:31:57.000Well, there's another article out today, District Sorry for Homeschooler Terrorist Link.
02:32:02.000They had 200 kids involved in this telling them that the homeschoolers were going to attack them and kill them and that they drilled of homeschooler parents blowing up the school bus because they're against homeschooling.
02:32:28.000You know I have these articles about Internet 2 coming out.
02:32:30.000They're going to start shutting down Internet 1 and forcing you on Internet 2 because the companies that own the Internet bridges are going to make you go on to this new system.
02:32:39.000Now we've got the articles here just with police state after police state action.
02:32:47.000This is the type of world we're going to be living in.
02:32:51.000So it's only the tip of the iceberg, as they say.
02:32:53.000Up next here, I guess up next would be Mike in Florida, and then Mike in Illinois, Carol in Pennsylvania, and Peter in New York, and others.
02:33:19.000Secondly, The most decorated unit during the Second World War were Japanese Americans who were released from internment camps to join the military.
02:35:03.000Well, he wants this done in Pennsylvania to save the taxpayers money, and Phil English brought this out, and he said, oh no, that's a college-level text for philosophy seminars.
02:35:18.000That this is the problem with socialism.
02:35:19.000The type of socialism we have is where the big corporations socialize our wealth, our lives, take our treasure, our energy, our ideas.
02:35:30.000They then take it to themselves at another level of fascism, where they are the rulers and own and control all the wealth.
02:35:37.000Our lives are then socialized and they say, Well, we should sterilize people because we have to pay for their health care of their children.
02:35:46.000Well, we should tax people who buy too much ice cream or beer a week, or take their driver's license without them committing a crime, because we all have to pay for that statistically.
02:35:55.000And this is where we're going, and this is how they're going to sell us social control.
02:35:59.000Oh well, you're having to pay too much for health care because of this.
02:36:04.000No, it's the socialism that started that to begin with.
02:38:19.000Have a petition, that is a write-in petition, Sign petition to have a paper ballot recall of the electronic voting machines.
02:38:30.000And write it up for how much it'll cost to have paper ballots, how to do it, have a study done, and have that passed so that it is a paper ballot.
02:38:39.000Understand, have a write-in petition to have a one-time paper ballot move to remove the electronic voting machines.
02:38:47.000Because if you don't do that, it's over.
02:38:48.000That's why they're so arrogant now, okay?
02:38:53.000You get good governors elected in the southern states and the Canadian border states, and they have the power to have the State National Guard, which can be radically expanded, to militarize the border.
02:39:03.000That's where it's supposed to be militarized, to do something there.
02:39:38.000I use the analogy of 1800, 2 or 3 percent of people were against slavery.
02:39:44.000By 1868, the vast majority, 80 plus percent of Americans, were against slavery.
02:39:51.000Okay, we have to stand, and we're way more than 2% right now.
02:39:54.000We're probably, I don't know, 10% of people really know what's going on, 70-80% know things are wrong, but don't have the details, and are caught in the fake left-right paradigm.
02:40:08.000In the education, you know, talk, talk, talk, well that's how we got 1776 was a decade of the committees of correspondence waking people up.
02:40:16.000The founding fathers tried to avert violent conflict.
02:40:35.000Instead of carrying one hour or two hours of Alex's show, I'll sign a six-month contract and I'll get one of my neighbors who's got a business to sign up and do that.
02:40:43.000And then millions more can hear my voice and hear the truth.
02:40:46.000I mean, we're the normal people, folks.
02:40:50.000I got the article here now out of Pennsylvania, out of the Delco Times, where they put cameras in the police bathrooms to watch the police.
02:40:58.000I got articles where they're doing it to school children all over the country.
02:42:04.000He says mercury isn't good in the shots and cameras in school bathrooms and police bathrooms and now in a bunch of states in the rest stop bathrooms isn't good.
02:42:15.000Alex is against the troops breathing depleted uranium.
02:42:46.000And you go out, and you're going to have 300 bucks to pay a week with that.
02:42:49.000And you go out and get a couple sponsors, or your own business, and you put together good ads, and you do a good show with good content, and you can then buy two hours, then buy three hours.
02:42:58.000But after a year or two, you're going to have ratings, and you might get a nighttime show, or a daytime show.
02:43:03.000They might pay you to be on the radio!
02:43:58.000They got their mountains of lies and all their slick packaging, and we've got our media that's smaller than theirs, but ours is more effective.
02:44:05.000They've gotta reapply their lies over and over and over and over again.
02:44:10.000All we gotta do is apply the truth a couple times to somebody and let them see they're being lied to and tell them how to wake up and then they're off on their own thinking on their own.
02:45:09.000What you can do is go to Infowars.com, and this affiliate list isn't up to date, but I know his stations have been there for years, and just look at New York, and you can see the three stations.
02:45:20.000Call my local library, and I haven't done that since I don't have a computer at home, and my friend is very apprehensive about me using her computer for such things.
02:45:54.000You know, I really think that what we think about I think it might actually tend to become reality.
02:46:06.000Which brings me to the other thing I kind of wanted to mention, but there are several things since I've been waiting hearing you and the various guests talk.
02:46:16.000Anyways, a very interesting but very controversial book, one called The Ultimate Frontier.
02:46:23.000And actually, when you guys were talking, you and the Washington Times editor, about the police thing, it reminded me of what this author said once in an article he wrote, since he wrote that book, that most police, and I think it was maybe security people or prison guards, are sadistic.
02:46:41.000And I don't know, I've, you know, I had a few That's a pleasant experience with police.
02:46:47.000I've seen and heard plenty of other things.
02:46:58.000The state police in Texas seem to try to find those types.
02:47:02.000But then with a lot of your PDs, a lot of them are sociopaths, control freaks, they're seeking power, and the system rewards them, and definitely with prison guards.
02:47:13.000I mean, I've had family, you know, like my great uncle, you know, 30 years in the military, and he gets out and doesn't like the post office job, doesn't like sitting on his hind end, so he went and was a prison guard, you know, for a few years, and quit that because he didn't like it.
02:47:26.000You know, I mean, there's those types, too.
02:47:29.000But he'll tell you, there were a lot of scumbags in there, and a lot of criminals who just enjoy abusing people, and that's why the Founding Fathers said, you've got to guard liberty and have safeguards.
02:47:41.000You know, people that want to sign our gun rights away, I mean, I tell them, well, you know, the police are supposed to watch the criminals, but who's going to watch the police?
02:47:50.000Well, the police say that it's not their responsibility to protect you.
02:47:56.000I mean, they want our guns, but at the same time... By the way, most police don't want our guns, but the heads of their big unions do.
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02:53:07.000Speed limiters could be fitted to cars in London under radical plans backed by the mayor.
02:53:12.000The electronic under the bonnet spy would make it possible to exceed legal limits over the entire capital.
02:53:18.000It would make it impossible to exceed legal limits over the entire capital.
02:53:22.000And it says the satellite-controlled black box would know the maximum permitted speed at all points along the car's journey and prevent motorists from going too fast by limiting the response from the accelerator.
02:53:33.000And they can also kill you with these systems if they don't like you.
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