Big Brother? Big Brother? Government cover-ups? You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, covering a ton of news!
00:00:34.0002004, whether you're listening to us in Europe or Asia or right here in the United States, Free Humanity wants to be free from the scourge of the New World Order and its dehumanization and this broadcast is dedicated to waking people up and
00:00:56.000Getting populations moving against the control grid, the electronic and physical prison that's being built around society and all of our lives.
00:01:08.000Again, thank you so much for joining us.
00:02:24.000Superman star Christopher Reeve, an advocate for spinal cord research, well, more than spinal cord research, he was an advocate for using babies for parts, dies at age 52.
00:02:43.000A Congress close to establishing rules for driver's license.
00:02:47.000Why, if you read the New York Times headline, you think, oh, the Feds, rules for driver's license.
00:02:52.000What are they involved with the states for?
00:02:53.000Well, it's admittedly in the bill, in both the bills, an admitted national ID card.
00:03:00.000But when you read this article, it's, oh, it's just going to make you have fingerprints and eye prints and face scans, and yeah, it'll be federally controlled.
00:03:08.000Oh, right here in the state of Texas, when you go into the Texas Department of Transportation, the computers that they don't tell the public about, that we now have video of, say National ID Card.
00:03:19.000So, it's already been in place for years, now they're getting ready to announce it to you!
00:03:27.000Candidates arrested at debate, we're going to be getting Michael Bagnerik on.
00:03:31.000Libertarian and Green Party nominees tried to serve commission.
00:03:35.000Two third-party presidential candidates were arrested at the presidential debate in St.
00:03:39.000Louis when they tried to serve the debate commission with a show-cause order.
00:03:44.000michael bagner at the libertarian party and david cobb of the green party about both of them were these both seem to be like nice kind of back there for years i've met cobb in new york were protesting their exclusion from the debate between president bush democratic president nominee john kerry just as the debate began the two candidates supposedly crossed the police barricade and were arrested The debate took place at Washington University.
00:04:08.000The campus was alive with protest and backers of both major party candidates.
00:04:16.000Protest had no direct path to the school's athletic complex, which was converted into a red, white, and blue television studio for the 90-minute debate between Lord Bush and his cousin, Lord Kerry.
00:04:28.000Cobb said his purpose was to expose the undemocratic nature of these debates, this election, and our government.
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00:08:31.000You passionately love liberty and hate corruption and wickedness.
00:08:35.000You are threatened by it, and rightfully so, and you are mounting a defense against the New World Order in a historical crossroads fight for the future of this species.
00:08:48.000And at the beginning of this broadcast, this Monday, October 11, 2004, Global Transmission Against Tyranny, I just want to thank God, Yahweh, I want to thank God because I have been so blessed to just exist, to have been formed in my mother's womb, to be on the face of this planet.
00:09:13.000To be given the opportunities to grow up and learn about the nature of the real world and to have a chance to be a creature in God's plan and to be able to recognize the New World Order and be able to fight it and to be able to reach so many millions of people.
00:09:37.000But I just have this overwhelming feeling of Thankfulness and humbleness for what God has done in my life.
00:09:47.000And believe me, if you weren't out there fighting the New World Order, if you didn't have the Spirit of the Lord moving upon you, we would already be in the depths of an even greater tyranny.
00:09:58.000Yes, things are bad and they're getting worse, but we're all being given a choice.
00:10:04.000The tyranny is Materializing very clearly in front of us, not over the hill or down the dale, not some foggy specter, but clear and tangible upon us now.
00:10:24.000We can see the country being destroyed, being dismantled, being wrecked, being decimated But at the same time, people are now seeing the threat.
00:10:34.000The sleeping giant is moving, is waking up.
00:10:37.000And the globalists are intensifying and accelerating their tyranny to dangerous speeds for their own system, not just our society or civilization.
00:10:50.000We're going to take a lot of calls today.
00:10:51.000The total free number to join us is 1-800-259-9231.
00:10:56.000I'm really bad about callers bringing up great points, then I elaborate on it, then they elaborate on it.
00:11:03.000I really want to keep the callers down to a minute or two, so we can get a lot of people on board.
00:11:09.000What happens is the phone lines load up, and then they sit there, and then nobody else can get through, and then I don't go to enough of the calls.
00:11:15.000And so we really will go to your calls early in this first hour, and then we will continue to go to your calls throughout the broadcast.
00:12:16.000They don't feel like they have a reason for existing.
00:12:19.000Well, that's because your subconscious mind, your soul, your heart, your guts, your bone marrow knows you're living a fraud.
00:12:27.000Knows that the people up there on TV telling us that they're our saviors are psychopathic, sadistic, control freak, rulers, killers, criminals.
00:13:12.000But they've still got one big lie over on us that we're still buying their propaganda, that we're really alone, that just because we see the truth, nobody else sees the truth, and so we're really alone.
00:13:22.000They keep putting out that illusion, and that illusion is a fraud!
00:13:42.000Russia's enemy number one poll shows, Moscow News, United States is seen as Russia's prime foreign enemy according to a poll by the nation's Public Opinion Foundation last week with 68% of respondents convinced Russia had enemies abroad that could start a war.
00:13:58.00025% said the chief enemy was the United States.
00:14:05.000Only 7% said the threat came from Arab countries or Islamic groups.
00:14:09.000Another 7% said the threat came from Chechnya.
00:14:12.000A mere 5% named terrorists was the number one threat.
00:14:16.000The poll, the result of which was published on the Foundation's website, asked 1,500 people across Russia to describe how they felt about Russia's image abroad.
00:14:24.000Nearly half of those polled, 46% said that Russia had a poor image abroad, while 40% said Russia had a positive image of the countries that U.S.
00:14:32.000President George Bush Labeled two years ago as the Axis of Evil.
00:15:00.000Russia has put the Red Stars back on their lapels of their uniforms, back on their hats, back on their tanks and helicopters and jet aircraft.
00:15:11.000And Russia and its newspapers calls us an enemy out of one side of their mouth and out of the other side says that our friend and George Bush and John Kerry tell us that Russia's our ally and our good friend and we've got deals now with former KGB chiefs helping run Homeland Security like General Primakov and we've got Russians over here advising big city police chiefs.
00:15:31.000I mean, I've got a whole file in the last six months of dozens of articles where this is happening.
00:15:42.000And now NATO says they're going to merge with Russia, and so are other big global organizations, and now we're having joint military exercises with them.
00:15:55.000We're now hearing that China's our ally with the Pentagon's new map, and the Pentagon chastises the officers who don't go along with this.
00:16:05.000Meanwhile, the entire intelligence apparatus is being used to set up a national taxing grid Here in the United States, a national sales tax, national ID card access, everything you do in your car will be tracked by a transponder or satellite tracker box.
00:16:21.000It's finally hit all the mainstream news, telling you how great it is.
00:16:24.000All this is happening, but all the foreigners, they get waivers from having to have this.
00:17:52.000black people are dying more than any other people on the planet.
00:17:57.000And she told the press conference in Nairobi a day after winning the prize for her work in human rights and reversing deforestation across Africa.
00:18:07.000It is true that there are some people who create agents to wipe out other people.
00:18:11.000If this were no such people, we would not have invaded Iraq, she said.
00:18:17.000We invaded Iraq because we believe that Saddam Hussein had made or was in the process of creating agents for biological warfare, she said.
00:18:23.000Also, Kenyan Deputy Environment and Natural Resources Minister who has gained a reputation as a fearless speaker.
00:18:29.000In fact, the HIV virus is created by a scientist for biological warfare, she added.
00:18:36.000We'll get into her evidence coming up here in a few minutes.
00:18:46.000Statistically in this country, when you look at blacks, or Asians, or Hispanics, who are no more sexually active than a white person, an Anglo, of European descent, The statistics are much lower.
00:19:03.000It is very hard, and these are the actual statistic numbers, folks, I've interviewed dozens of scientists over the years.
00:19:29.000And then there was a BBC article two years ago where they said, ooh, it was found in one of the vaccines but we're just sure it was an accident.
00:19:39.000And then we've got the actual funded autoimmune virus study done in the late 60s and then it shows up in the late 70s and becomes public in the early 1980s.
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00:24:12.000Alright, again, thanks for joining us.
00:24:19.000More news coming up in the next segment.
00:24:20.000I'm about to go straight to your calls.
00:24:22.000Libertarian presidential candidate who was arrested Friday night for trying to walk across and serve a Legal notice, the Debate Commission will be joining us, Michael Bagnerik, Libertarian Presidential Candidate, in the third hour.
00:24:43.000I was following the coverage of the hurricane curfew enforcement in South Florida, and I did some further research on it, and as it turns out, not only were they randomly scooping up people off the street, but they were actually going into restaurants hours before the curfew even took effect.
00:24:58.000And ordering people to leave mid-meal.
00:25:00.000And a bunch of restaurants got, you know, they're trying to sue the department now, but this is all in the Palm Beach Post.
00:25:07.000You know, I do have that article in front of me, and we had a lawyer on who was arrested coming back from a Marlins game, and you see, they have to go back, police have to go back every few weeks to the state judges and get an order to extend it.
00:25:23.000And I read they're still out arresting people when there's no reason, and the order isn't even lawful.
00:25:52.000Why would they illegally, weeks and weeks and weeks after the orders have already gone away, keep claiming there's a curfew and arresting everyone?
00:26:25.000You got a twenty, well more like a thirty billion dollar foundation called the Barnes Foundation right outside of Philadelphia and we have an effort by I call on a couple of interlopers to come in and force the Barnes Foundation to move to Philadelphia and to change the nature of its structure and operation.
00:26:53.000And the original Barnes Foundation will basically be changed over the years.
00:26:59.000And I think it's going to be weakened to the extent that $30 billion in assets, which is in the form of art, It's going to be drained out by... Okay, I'm not really familiar with the Barnes Foundation.
00:27:11.000Well, the other side of the coin is the Pew Trust, which are heavily influential on PBS.
00:27:22.000They've only put about, I think it's only a couple hundred thousand dollars lent them to the Barnes Foundation, and yet they are getting their hooks on that.
00:27:31.000They're dragging this Weak foundation with a huge amount of money.
00:27:35.000It's very flabby, but it's got a huge amount of money.
00:27:38.000They're dragging it through the local courts, and they're going to win, Miss Alex, because... Well, that sounds like somebody inside the Barnes Foundation is internally doing that.
00:27:47.000They could sell a couple pieces of art, if they have billions of dollars worth, and do that.
00:27:53.000Since you mention foundations, okay, let's talk about them for a second.
00:28:00.000The Ford Foundation has tens of billions of dollars.
00:28:04.000You could debate 15 to 25 billion, nobody really knows exactly.
00:28:08.000But the Ford Foundation was set up really conservative, but a group of lawyers hijacked it, and that's the big foundation pushing open borders, getting rid of sovereignty, one of the big foundations.
00:28:21.000And you've got the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, Le Pew, a bunch of others, Annenberg, a bunch of these.
00:28:27.000And these are tax-free foundations, still owned and run by the big families.
00:28:49.000There was a point where Bush actually made reference to an upcoming question.
00:28:53.000I don't know if you viewers noticed or not, but there was a round-robin debate going on about whether Bush had spent enough for Homeland Security, and he mentioned the middle-class tax cut, and he said, well, we'll be talking more about that later.
00:29:07.000Yeah, I just thought it was telling that he didn't even try to hide the fact that he knew the questions in advance.
00:29:12.000And also, Friday, Saturday morning on C-SPAN, Ryan Lamb reported that Smish had a radio transmitter clearly visible during the first debate.
00:29:22.000I think you've been right all along when you talked about the debates were rigged and set up, and I just thought you...
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00:33:08.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:33:15.000Well, Alan and Virginia brought up This report that first came out about, I don't know, a week and a half, two weeks ago after the first debate.
00:33:31.000And quite frankly, it looks to me like a thin suit of body armor.
00:33:37.000They've got some really high-tech ones that are just about a half inch thick that are very strong.
00:33:42.000And where the line of it was, was about an inch or two below his neck and went on over to the shoulders, I believe Bush was wearing body armor.
00:33:51.000He was definitely wearing something large and bulky.
00:33:53.000It was not just a line or crease in the suit.
00:33:56.000Number one, it wasn't in the normal crease area.
00:33:59.000Number two, it was fat and it continued across the shoulders.
00:34:03.000What we were seeing was the seam in the middle of the back of the body armor.
00:34:09.000Clearly, Some are now saying that it might have been a wire or him with an earpiece.
00:34:15.000And clearly, he has had an earpiece during some TV appearances he's done and some speeches.
00:34:23.000And really, overall, people say, well, that proves these are staged debates.
00:34:29.000What proves they're staged debates is John Edwards last week.
00:34:34.000With the Vice President, and he's up there and he just kept messing up going, I'm sorry I broke the debate rules, I'm sorry I broke the debate rules, oh I'm sorry!
00:34:43.000He couldn't even say the name, Dick Cheney?
00:34:48.000I mean the... And notice that these questioners, whether it's a PBS host or an ABC anchor, they say, I have selected the questions, no one has seen the questions I selected.
00:35:01.000Well, the debate commission goes over several hundred questions, and they narrow them down to about 60.
00:35:06.000This has all been admitted, by the way.
00:35:45.000They're so afraid of the public now, and they know they've lost control of public perception.
00:35:50.000And they know that we're onto them, so now they have these little staged events.
00:35:53.000And then they went around and had people pre-screen their questions, and they would look at their question, and if it closely resembled one of the already agreed upon questions, then that was allowed to be asked.
00:36:03.000But go ahead and finish up your comments about the stage debate, Alan.
00:36:06.000Well, I was just noticing, too, that the callers who had supposedly, the questioners who had supposedly written the questions had trouble reading the questions.
00:36:14.000And I thought that was kind of strange, and several of them had words really longer than the person they were obviously comfortable using.
00:36:21.000I don't even believe the questions were written by the people there.
00:36:24.000Although they were supposed to have been screened by Gallup Corporation to be undecided voters, clearly I think some of them had an agenda with the questions.
00:36:34.000I think the debates were rigged and I just wanted to let you know and your listeners know that you've been right all along and I agree with you.
00:36:55.000I appreciate your call, Allen, and God bless.
00:36:59.000Look, I'm saying that they're rigged for maybe different reasons than you are, but clearly you've pointed out some very astute observations here.
00:37:12.000Look, bottom line, forget the debates.
00:37:15.000They've hyped them up like they're a Tyson fight or something, and they're not.
00:37:31.000And so that's another semantical deception when the ABC News anchor for the last presidential debate last Friday says, I have selected the questions.
00:37:42.000Well, that's like I lay out You know, a group of investment funds you can sign on to, and then you get to select from them.
00:37:51.000Well, that doesn't mean you really got to select.
00:37:54.000I control the parameter of what you can do.
00:37:56.000Well, it's the same thing there, but it makes it sound like it's impartial, and it's ridiculous, folks.
00:38:04.000By the way, we've seen three debates, two presidential, one vice presidential.
00:38:09.000Have we heard any comments about the open borders?
00:38:12.000Any comments about that concerning national security?
00:38:23.000I may be a little premature in my call because what I wanted to know was, is there any place in print that I can find the fact that AIDS was a man-invented thing?
00:38:46.000Uh, then I would think that if you typed in AIDS manufactured bioweapon, uh, the actual documents are all over the web, including on my website, buried in the archives.
00:39:00.000Oh, I looked on your website, I didn't find it.
00:39:07.000No, no, no, but I mean, just so I can try to help you navigate it, how did you look?
00:39:10.000I just went to your website, see what I could find, but I didn't go into archives at all.
00:39:15.000Yeah, see, my websites are like a newspaper, and so, you know, let's say if you wanted a news article from two years ago, you would go back through the issues library.
00:39:42.000And then you would click back on different days, or you would use the search engine box that's there, and you would type in AIDS manufactured bioweapon.
00:39:51.000And if you type that in, a whole bunch of mainstream news articles and documents should pop up for you.
00:39:59.000But it's not just Dr. Lynn Horowitz who went into the National Archives and found this in the early 1990s.
00:40:07.000Congress has admitted the documents, they've been made public, And the late 60's they started the testing.
00:40:13.000There was even more testing in the late 70's.
00:40:16.000And they did successfully produce an autoimmune bioweapon.
00:40:20.000And it's been in the BBC, they've caught them putting it in the vaccines, but it was all just a big accident.
00:40:26.000And there's just hundreds of these articles, and we post them all as they come out.
00:40:32.000Here's one out of AFP, that's the equivalent of the French Associated Press, Kenyan Nobel Peace Prize laureate, claims AIDS virus deliberately created in Western bioweapons laboratories.
00:40:45.000The newest PNAC documents that have come out, From back in 2000, have Dick Cheney talking about we must legitimize the use of race-specific bio-weapons.
00:41:15.000And they talked about, it's just a short booklet, And Dr. Strucker on one coast of the United States and another doctor on another coast, they simultaneously came up with the same information and they couldn't get it published.
00:41:32.000And they traced it back, I believe, to Boca Raton, Florida, a laboratory there.
00:41:37.000And they found out that it was, in fact, a Chinese scientist who came up with the AIDS virus.
00:41:45.000Well, I've been shouting about this thing Since the seventies, when I found out about it, you know, a population control mechanism, and everybody just poos me.
00:41:58.000Even, you know, during the Second World War, the government gave syphilis to the blacks because they wanted to know more about syphilis.
00:42:06.000And let them spread it and let them die of it over 45 years.
00:42:16.000You know, what we'll do is, We have a vaccine section on PrisonPlanet.com with the Associated Press saying they didn't take the mercury out, they increased it 250 times!
00:42:30.000And we've got articles of all these top scientists admitting that mercury causes brain damage and autism has gone from 1 in 25,000 20 years ago to 1 in 1,000, that's the number three years old.
00:42:46.000We've got articles with Henry Kissinger telling the third world countries you've got to sterilize half your population by force or no IMF and World Bank money.
00:42:56.000We've got the UN caught through the World Health Organization putting hormones in with tetanus shots to sterilize women and that's admitted and there's been a bunch of mainstream news articles the last six months on that but that news is five, six years old though.
00:43:11.000It just came out that the Hepatitis B shot increases muscular sclerosis almost four times or 3.7 times increase.
00:43:21.000The Hepatitis B shot increases a bunch of different diseases.
00:43:29.000The meningitis shot has increased the deaths of people in England that take it.
00:43:35.000Those that have had it by 17.6 percent.
00:43:40.000I mean, this is just stuff the last few weeks.
00:43:42.000Then we've got the local newscast saying, Mercury is nutritious.
00:43:47.000Well, everybody knows that's not true.
00:43:51.000Just like everybody knows that cameras in school bathrooms hidden freedom, or blimps over our cities looking through our walls, or Humvees with microwave guns and sound cannons mounted on top of them, aimed at the American people, with all the borders wide open.
00:44:05.000They're building a prison all around us.
00:44:07.000They're coming out with a national ID card.
00:44:09.000You'll have to have to have any job with what type of citizen you are on it.
00:44:34.000Where they have what the mercury does, what the aspartame does, what the fluoride does, what the vaccines do.
00:44:40.000We need to have the race-specific bioweapons quotes out of PNAC, Henry Kissinger documents, all this stuff where they add stuff to the vaccines.
00:45:14.000It's funny you're talking about mercury.
00:45:17.000I remember going to the dentist a few years ago, maybe about 10 years ago, and telling him about all these articles I'm reading and just learning about mercury, that mercury is a poison.
00:46:10.000So why would their bosses do something like this?
00:46:13.000And after you've already given, as a pediatrician, you know, 10,000 children shots, You're not going to want to admit what happened.
00:46:21.000Even when the woman turns around and drives her two-year-old back who's in convulsions, oh, well, your child just had a bad reaction, or it wasn't the vaccine.
00:47:02.000I have studies from 1933 from the University of Texas studying the toxicology.
00:47:09.000And again, I've literally seen hundreds of them.
00:47:11.000From China, and England, and Ireland, and Mexico, and the U.S.
00:47:14.000But I've got a study from 33, I read on air one time, parts of it, where they said this would be a good sedative for mentally ill patients, but it's toxic so we can't use it.
00:47:25.000They tested it on people in the sanitarium, And found that it was a great toxic sedative that the Nazis gave people in the camps.
00:47:54.000Well, at least they... I don't know if this is being done nationally with dentists, but...
00:47:59.000It was quite a shock when this dentist I've gone to, who is a very good dentist, and he was always a bit skeptical about mercury.
00:48:06.000But I guess either they had a seminar or they went to a conference over the past few years, maybe nationally or in the New York area, and decided that mercury will no longer be used in dental fillings, which is a good thing.
00:48:56.000And he went public and said it's deadly poison.
00:48:59.000And it's not just the sodium fluoride.
00:49:00.000They take the stuff from nuclear weapons plants, they take the stuff from the aluminum plants, they take the byproducts from the fertilizer plants, they take that sodium fluoride toxic waste, mix with all the other stuff, and that's what they ship and put in the water.
00:49:17.000At the end of World War II, they had used it in nuclear weapons production, and it was a big spill.
00:50:28.000Depleted Uranium, the Army's own book, their own training videos, which they will not show the troops now, say that it is deadly!
00:50:36.000Then the New York Daily News a few months ago did a blood test of 14 Gulf War I vets, and found that they all had high levels of radiation in DU!
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00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:17.000Alright, my friends, we're now 30 seconds into the second hour.
00:59:23.000Greg Palast is going to be joining us, BBC reporter, best-selling author, The Bush Family Fortunes.
00:59:31.000Then in the third hour, we're going to have Michael Bagnerik on, Libertarian presidential candidate who was arrested at the debate last Friday, along with a Green Party presidential candidate.
00:59:41.000He'll just be on with us about 20 minutes or so.
01:00:34.000And a lot of top military are saying this is one reason we're losing the war in Iraq, is because for political reasons, Bush is backed off now, going after the insurgents!
01:00:44.000So if you're gonna have a war, might as well fight it to win it!
01:00:50.000So that's just some of what's coming up.
01:00:52.000Plus this so-called shortage of the flu vaccine.
01:00:55.000They're acting like it's some wonderful thing we've all got to get.
01:00:58.000There's a shortage, not because of price controls, as the news is saying.
01:01:01.000Last week they admitted there's a problem because the factory that made half of it's been shut down because they put live flu virus in the shots!
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01:07:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:07:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:07:18.000Alright, let me cover a couple quick news items, and we're going to award-winning BBC reporter, also a writer for the London Guardian and other major publications, best-selling author Greg Pallis will be in Austin, Texas tomorrow night, and I intend to go down there.
01:07:32.000But that's coming up in a minute or two.
01:07:35.000First off, news website Indymedia says FBI seized server, knocking off over 20 of their websites in over five nations, including the United States.
01:07:47.000And they did this under an international order.
01:07:51.000That's your global government, folks, where somebody in France or Switzerland wants to take your website down, and the whole server, two servers, with over ten websites apiece on each one, taken down, and they won't even say why.
01:08:06.000A website billed as a grassroots news source for the anti-globalization movement, great folks by the way, and other issues said one of its web servers was shut down after the FBI, by the way now it's two, served a subpoena.
01:08:19.000The Independent Media Center said the FBI issued a gag order to hosting company Rockspace to remove physically one of our servers.
01:08:27.000The FBI acknowledged that a subpoena had been issued but said it was the request of Italian and Swiss authorities.
01:08:34.000So again, somebody in Germany or England says this and it happens.
01:08:37.000It's not an FBI operation, FBI spokesman Joe Paris told AFP.
01:08:41.000Through a legal assistance treaty, the subpoena was on behalf of a third party.
01:08:45.000A couple years ago, France wanted to shut down Yahoo because World War II collectors were selling U.S.
01:08:58.000I mean, whether you love or hate the Nazis, that's your freedom.
01:09:01.000But obviously, these old World War II collectors, you shouldn't have Yahoo taken down because they let people, you know, sell Nazi paraphernalia.
01:09:09.000I mean, the Smithsonian Institute has Nazi flags in it.
01:09:38.000Congress close to establishing rules for driver's license.
01:09:42.000And it's admitted, two different bills, including one that David Reier has, Congressman, you'll have a national ID card to have a job, you'll have five levels of security on the card, a face print, a thumb print, the states already have this.
01:09:53.000This makes it the law, and makes it a federal ID card, and both John Kerry and George Bush are for this wildly unpopular thing.
01:10:03.000Greg Palast, good to have you on with us, my friend.
01:10:11.000Well, you know, you were in New York there with me.
01:10:14.000I came and interviewed you for a film that's coming out.
01:10:17.000Greg, while I was at your office interviewing you, you had a Pacifica reporter there who'd just been kidnapped and had his tapes and videos stolen.
01:10:28.000I mean, this is becoming a regular occurrence.
01:10:31.000Yeah, well, what happened was, in fact, Jerry quickly of the Pacifica Network, he was He's African-American, so a big guy, and he was like grabbed, and his camera was smashed.
01:10:53.000He had the Republican National Convention credentials.
01:10:58.000You know, they, you know, obviously working press, you know, you've got these big tags and the whole thing, and they said, well, we just, Nothing in particular.
01:11:09.000And they handed him back his tape recorders, and he had his two days of interviews on what was happening around the Republican Convention, and the tapes were gone.
01:11:34.000We'd be eight miles away from the convention center, and cops would just run over with machine guns and grab our cameras, take the film out, laugh at us, string it out in front of us, throw it in a trash can.
01:12:51.000I interviewed the American Spectator reporter.
01:12:54.000He was at Ground Zero, peacefully standing there in a suit.
01:12:58.000And I was actually outside the crowd and even caught video of this and didn't know until later that that was him that I got on video being grabbed.
01:13:05.000And they put out these orange nets, grabbed about 300 of the 1,000 protesters, the small protest, put him in jail for 48 hours, and Then a cop later came by who wasn't even there and charged him with disorderly conduct and several other things, and he was inside the Guantanamo on the Hudson with barbed wire inside.
01:13:36.000Well, I think that was part of the idea.
01:13:38.000In other words, part of the idea of a police state is it's random action.
01:13:43.000In other words, you can't terrorize a community unless they think it is going to hit at any moment to anyone, that everyone is vulnerable.
01:13:51.000So it's that creation of, and then plus, on the other hand, while they're creating fear, they're telling everyone, "We are protecting you from the terrorists." So it's, you know, we see it coming.
01:14:02.000It could get, unfortunately, it could get much worse.
01:14:05.000What do you think of this IndyMedia servers getting grabbed?
01:14:08.000Well, I'm particularly emotional for me because they're the sponsors, the national sponsors, one of the national sponsors of the release of my film, Bush Family Fortunes, from BBC Television.
01:14:20.000They're American sponsors of the release.
01:14:22.000And obviously, with the servers down, It's hard to get across.
01:14:29.000One of the problems that you're seeing is that this new thing of seizing machines, we're not telling you why.
01:14:34.000This is very much, by the way, something that they do in Europe.
01:14:37.000I am stunned that it's now reaching across.
01:14:39.000They've never been able to do this before.
01:14:46.000Before, they used to get these requests and it was like, I'm sorry, we don't do that in the United States.
01:14:51.000We don't kick in doors at the news outlet.
01:14:55.000This is a very, very dangerous thing, and to let that happen... The problem is that when the establishment press here is not going to come to their defense, and then they themselves will become vulnerable when they step out of line.
01:15:11.000Look at what's happened to Judith Miller.
01:15:17.000New York Times reporter, a pure propagandist for the Bush Administration.
01:15:22.000She's the one who came up with the story, by the way.
01:15:24.000She's the one who published the story that Saddam really had terrible weapons of mass destruction.
01:15:30.000They fed her that stuff, and then they fed her the story of Plame, Valerie Plame, who was a CIA agent.
01:15:40.000They did this to harass and worry her husband.
01:15:51.000And so now, now, in other words, they use this woman and now they're going to try to jail her.
01:15:58.000So see, the problem with these, with the mainstream reporters on the New York Times and the other, you know, our American Investors and the Washington Post, etc., is that they go along with the game, and then when they balk for one minute, then they find out what happened.
01:16:13.000You know, instead of being the nice pet, suddenly they're facing jail time.
01:16:18.000Well, Greg, I mean, she's the lady with the aluminum tubes and Niger documents.
01:16:41.000Statistically, if you're really fighting them and have never worked for them, they seem to leave you alone more of the time than if you're one of their servants.
01:16:48.000Then if you get out of line one centimeter, they just smash you.
01:16:52.000Because, see, they gave her a platform in the New York Times.
01:16:58.000Obviously, from my voice, I'm not Henry Higgins.
01:17:01.000So, you know, so I'm doing these reports.
01:17:02.000It's one of the reasons, by the way, that BBC has released this film, Bush Family Fortunes, which is, you know, based on my book, Best Democracy Money Can Buy, because you can't report this stuff In the U.S.A., so we tried it.
01:17:19.000By the way, we tried, BBC tried to get U.S.
01:17:21.000networks to run our investigative reports on the Bush family.
01:17:38.000Can you do something less controversial?
01:17:39.000I'd say, well, when you're When your president stops playing games with the Saudis and the rest, we can be less controversial.
01:17:45.000Well, tomorrow night, people can get around that wall of censorship.
01:17:49.000It's 7 o'clock on downtown Austin, on Congress, right by the Capitol, in the beautiful historic Paramount Theater, from 7 to 9 p.m.
01:17:59.000They're going to show the film, and then Greg's going to speak, and I'm on TV from 7 to 8, but I'm going to jump in the car.
01:18:04.000And you get to, you know, Alex, you're going to have to stand up, make sure I know you're there, so everyone, so we can point you out, your listeners, they can put the face with the voice.
01:18:16.000It's very important that we actually do get together, because you're not, you're going to see on screen at the Paramount, or if you just go get the film, which is on DVD, you're going to see the reports that the rest of the world sees about this regime that, you know, that you are not allowed to see on your tube.
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01:23:19.000Greg, I want to talk about the election, I want to talk about what your film covers, obviously, but during the break we were talking, and I was saying, you know, I know you're a journalist, you have to have documents on it, and that's what I go off of too, but it does stink to high heaven that obviously fake documents are given to CBS News.
01:24:16.000Then Jim Hatfield, who was an investigative reporter, he at one time, years before he became a reporter, like decades before, got in trouble with some stock dealer or something.
01:24:27.000And so they knew that the cocaine story, that the story of our president doing a few lines in his youth when he should have been flying fighter jets, That they handed, literally, Karl Rove handed that story to James Hatfield.
01:24:42.000Knowing that when Hatfield published it, they would then pull out Hatfield's old records and just ruin him.
01:24:48.000In other words, what you do is you know that the story of the cocaine is going to come out, so you load it onto a ship that you can then sink.
01:24:56.000So then after that, no one would touch it.
01:24:58.000Look what's happened to the Draft Dodge story.
01:25:01.000In fact, we open our film, Bush Family Fortunes, with the Draft Dodge story.
01:25:06.000We have, by the way, uh, you know, uh, because of BBC, we have some very strict rules about backing stuff up.
01:25:13.000We have a document, and by the way, the document itself is shown in the DVD, so after you see the film, if you put the DVD in your machine, you can see the document, which no one has questioned, which is from inside the U.S.
01:25:26.000Justice Department at your offices there in Austin, which says that the fix was put in by Lieutenant Governor Ben Barnes, To get little George out of NAM and into the Air Guard as Top Gun.
01:25:41.000And no one, no one has challenged the authenticity of that document.
01:25:46.000The truth is that the core story that Dan Rather ran, which is that Congressman George Bush used his influence to get his son out of Vietnam.
01:25:58.000While he was voting to send other men's sons to Vietnam.
01:26:07.000No one has challenged BBC television, the premier news network on this planet.
01:26:13.000During the last election, we had the documents and everybody knew that he didn't show up for medical exams, that he was gone for giant spaces.
01:26:22.000What they do is they produce some fake document, it gets discredited, none of the stories discredited, just that particular document, and the media ignores all the other admitted documents.
01:26:32.000Right, and what it is, yeah, they use that, they say, then no one will touch the story.
01:26:36.000Not only will no one touch the story, you know what 60 Minutes did?
01:26:38.000They pulled from last Sunday They pulled from last Sunday a story about how the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was a completely faked operation.
01:26:49.000And they pulled it and said that this would be too controversial and they just can't act like that now.
01:26:55.000I mean, well, what are they there for?
01:26:57.000I mean, I have to tell you that when Bush Family Fortunes, when BBC brought it up to one of the big networks, we were told, oh, Greg, it's a great film.
01:27:07.000Can you do something less controversial?
01:27:09.000You know, this is how the news is being is being self-censored in America by cash.
01:27:14.000Hey listen, Greg, I don't get interviewed by mainstream media as much as you do, but I've been interviewed by a lot of national and international TV just in the last few months, and they openly say, look, we can't go that far, we know what you're saying is true, can you just say it like this so we can get it on TV?
01:27:30.000Well, this is one of the problems, and so I've despaired of that.
01:27:32.000You know, like I say, I'm on TV, I'm on the big nightly news program in Britain, I'm on in Brazil, in Germany, Ireland, You know, it's just news.
01:27:44.000But here I've got to put it on a DVD and we have to show it at the Paramount, which I don't mind.
01:27:50.000You know, because we've made a good feature film out of it.
01:27:52.000But I'll tell you, I just wish I could put it on the tube so you can just eat a bag of potato chips and chill out with a frosty, you know, and watch the news.
01:28:06.000Now, I have to say that you have been, and I want people to understand how precious your show is, because the reports, the things you're hearing here, the rest of the world can get, but just barred unless you listen to Alex Jones.
01:28:24.000Well, I mean, it's getting scarier when foreign governments can order the FBI to shut down web servers that shut down dozens and dozens of people's websites.
01:28:33.000I mean, folks, we're really entering this system.
01:28:37.000We're going to come back, talk about what's in the film, then go to your calls.
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01:32:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:32:06.000I'll tell you why governments of the world are going after free independent journalists and media and any platform where the people have a chance to hear their voices.
01:32:21.000um Being broadcast to a large number of other people.
01:32:27.000And that's because major media studies have come out by the government, universities, and industry, a bunch of them, depending on which study, 38 to 45 percent of people have tuned out of mainstream media and they've gone to alternative sources.
01:32:40.000I mean, when a little website like mine gets tens of millions of visitors every month, and I'm not even in the top, you know, 20 alternative news sites out there, The globalists are in trouble.
01:32:51.000When local indie media sites, where your voice can be heard, where you can go out and do reports, are getting more hits than the other local news stations, they're starting to panic.
01:33:04.000And so, yeah, when you punch a bully back in the nose, sometimes he punches back.
01:33:08.000So don't feel like, you know, that we're losing this fight.
01:33:11.000We are in information war that we can win because we have the truth.
01:33:18.000They have to reapply their lies and play all these little tricks to try to convince people to not be involved or to not see the big picture.
01:33:26.000But folks like Greg Pallast are really on the cutting edge and just have amazing histories of being incredibly accurate in their reporting.
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01:36:54.000We're not refighting the war from 30 years ago, guys.
01:36:56.000We're trying to talk about what happened to these records.
01:36:58.000The other thing is, then we move on to what happened in Florida in 2000, because it's going to happen again.
01:37:04.000Which is, we show you that they knocked out tens of thousands of people, calling them criminals.
01:37:09.000When they were just innocent people, in this case they're mostly black people because they knew which way they were voting, which is they're gonna vote against the Bush family.
01:37:35.000Now it just came out, Greg, that this was even in the New York Times, but it was in the Miami Papers, they sent out police task forces to old people's homes.
01:37:47.000Cops got business at their house, going, we're in a voting task force, just checking to make sure you're not voting twice.
01:37:54.000But in the last election, it was tens of thousands, tens and tens and tens of thousands.
01:37:59.000If your name was David Jones, And have David Jones ever committed a crime?
01:38:03.000Didn't they even found people who just had the name Jones who were blocked off because a John Jones did a crime, but your name's Tim Jones and... Oh yeah, I mean, no, it was a good gimmick, and in fact what we show them, which you'll see at the beginning of the film, is that the head of the Florida Department of Elections worked under Jeb Bush.
01:38:21.000The guy is literally running away from me.
01:38:23.000We had a set interview with BBC television.
01:38:25.000We sat down nice and polite, expecting some guy with a nice British accent, right?
01:38:30.000And I begin to show him documents marked secret and confidential.
01:38:32.000The guy rips off his lapel microphone, runs across the camera wires, locks himself in his office, then calls in the state troopers to remove me and my BBC television crew from the state capitol.
01:39:17.000Yes, but it's the old-fashioned scams, not systematic, computer-operated, you know, engineering- The Democrats are guilty of what I call retail vote theft, you know.
01:39:29.000Voting old people, dead people, making up stuff out of, you know, making up nasty ballots out of nursing homes, etc.
01:39:37.000And by the way, for those who've read my book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, you will know that I'm no friend of the Democratic Party either.
01:39:52.000I mean, last week I read, we're on 14 major policies, these guys are identical, and Kerry wants to expand the military!
01:40:00.000Well, you know, I mean, I almost fell out of my seat when Kerry said in the debate, and I know a lot of my Democratic friends, because they're so used to me doing these investigations of the Bush family, because, well, the Bush family's fun.
01:40:10.000It's like a real-life Corleone, you know?
01:40:43.000And that, in a way, goes back To one thing that we found in the film, which is, you'll see me standing in front of the White House with a document, 101 pages long.
01:40:54.000It is the plan, which was begun in 2001, and before any towers were hit, which is the plans to divide up all the assets of Iraq, what they call privatized, all the state assets of Iraq.
01:41:08.000And Greg, let me stop you right there.
01:41:11.000For those who just joined us, okay, Understand, this isn't Richard Clark, this isn't O'Neill.
01:41:19.000You can say, oh, they're partisan, they're sour grapes.
01:41:22.000We have the PNAC document from 2000, September 2000, where they say, Saddam isn't a threat, it's about the oil, we're going to use it as a military launch base.
01:41:31.000Then in 2001, they're in the meetings, Greg's got the documents, dividing up the oil fields, and then Bush says, oh, I never Well, yeah, in fact, one thing you'll see is that you will see maps of Iraq with these splotches on them, which are oil fields, which are now, of course, battlefields.
01:41:58.000And these are the documents that Dick Cheney, our Vice President, literally went over with chieftains from oil companies.
01:42:07.000They also had another committee out of the White House, run by a woman named Pam Wainwright, in which they were... I'm talking, like, within days of the inauguration, in which they were planning out what they were going to do with Iraq after the conquest.
01:43:23.000He said, but he objected because he said, If we do that, if we grab their oil, we're going to have to fight them for it.
01:43:31.000And this is the point I wanted to make.
01:43:33.000That's why all these Republicans who ran the air war for Bush Sr., top generals, heads of the Air Force, heads of the Army, people who are Republicans.
01:44:14.000Well, he can't be a war president without a war.
01:44:16.000So, I mean, you know, and don't forget who took Jay Garner's place.
01:44:20.000Remember, General Jay Garner is the guy who verified our documents for BBC and explained how they were, you know, that they were completely committed to grabbing all the assets.
01:44:30.000By the way, that includes the top six banks of Iraq.
01:44:33.000Because they're handling the oil, the cash flow from the oil.
01:44:37.000It includes changing their copyright laws, their tax laws, allowing foreign ownership of absolutely everything.
01:44:47.000Yeah, so our media says we're coming here to liberate you, but imagine if Russia came here, took over, and then started taking over all your businesses and bulldozing your fields.
01:45:01.000I mean, would that make you love the Russians?
01:45:03.000Well, you know, the other thing is here, you know, Garner said what we should do is be buying up the wheat harvest.
01:45:09.000You know, Iraq was like the, you know, the kind of granary of the Mideast.
01:45:13.000You know, we should be buying up their grain harvest so that the farmers can survive and eat and keep the rural areas going.
01:45:19.000Instead, our administration brought in hundreds of thousands of tons of wheat from Cargill's Australian unit.
01:45:29.000And who was in charge of the administration's policy on bringing in, dumping all this stuff into Iraq?
01:45:37.000It was an executive from Cargill, of course.
01:45:40.000So to understand this, folks, they've done everything that will break down the society, then they put out these phony numbers about how happy the Iraqis are.
01:45:49.000I've talked to Western reporters that have been there.
01:45:53.000It is much worse than before the war, but you listen to Paul Harvey, he tells you how great it is over there now.
01:45:58.000Well, you know, the truth was, I talked to, you know, one thing that the BBC reporters have an advantage over American reporters is most of our reporters speak Arabic.
01:46:07.000I mean, it's one, you know, we've sent people over, you have to learn the language.
01:46:11.000And at first, by the way, most people in Iraq, the reports you're getting all over the country, people are really happy to get rid of that cockroach Saddam.
01:46:20.000Yeah, that's exactly what I got from military people that were over there.
01:46:23.000They said the truth is that the Iraqi people are really happy to get rid of this guy who is seizing their husbands and sons and stuff in the middle of the night, and they want to get rid of this monster.
01:46:33.000However, it's like when you invite an exterminator in to get rid of your cockroaches, and then they move into your living room and sleep in your bed and clean out your fridge, and they're there for two years.
01:46:43.000And they set up the rape rooms in the very same prisons Saddam used!
01:46:46.000You know, and so what happens is that we're creating war.
01:46:50.000This is what Garner was so worried about.
01:46:52.000He says, we're making more enemies than we began with.
01:46:55.000Well, that's what... I'm sure you're familiar with the Pentagon Office P-2-O-G.
01:47:01.000Okay, well about two years ago, just type P-2-O-G, Greg, into a search engine and it'll pop up, UPI Associated Press, a Pentagon office set up to get people to attack us.
01:47:49.000So what happened is that, you know, so Bremmer comes in and the first thing he does is he cancels the elections in Najaf and Fallujah, so once You know, they could have had their own leaders.
01:48:00.000Instead, we end up with, of course, maniacs with guns taking over these towns, which then our kids are, you know, marching down the street hoping to stop the so-called insurgents.
01:48:13.000This is what we're trying to bring up.
01:48:15.000Now, you have to understand, in Bush Family Fortunes, we show you these documents, we show you the oil field maps, we stand in front of the White House, we have on camera General Jay Gardner laying the whole thing out, And this stuff that, by the way, the rest of the world could see on their television, but now you can see it in a film, you know, on a DVD, which you can get through Alex, or go to GregPalast.com.
01:48:39.000You know, the whole point of Bush Family Fortune, the great shame is that you, is that You should be able to watch this on your nightly news, find out your news about your country, but if not, me and Alex will straighten you out.
01:48:50.000We've just got to circumvent the mainstream media, obviously.
01:48:54.000When we get back, I want to go real fast to Barney and Karen, Michael and Paul, and those that have been holding the longest, but people can go to GreggPalast.com and get a copy of the DVD.
01:49:03.000Yes, they can, or your usual suspects like Amazon, etc., and keep checking the Alex Jones website.
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01:53:05.000If your family's not free, my family's not free.
01:53:08.000If we have corrupt politicians just engaging in looting of the economy and the Bill of Rights at levels never before seen, we're in trouble.
01:53:16.000And it's not about left or right, it's about right or wrong.
01:53:19.000And the Bushes are a crime family, folks.
01:53:22.000I heard this propaganda, how he gets on his knees every day, and how Christian he is.
01:53:26.000Folks, Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove is not Christian.
01:53:40.000First one is, what we have to do is prepare to help these young people that are going to be drafted to go to these unconstitutional wars.
01:53:50.000You know, during the Vietnam War, when the people like Clinton dodged the draft, Uh, they couldn't prosecute him because it was unconstitutional war.
01:54:00.000They couldn't even prosecute Clinton for going up into Russia and demonstrating against you, uh, the war in Vietnam because it was unconstitutional war.
01:54:12.000And what we got to do is, is get these young, help these young people out, be prepared for it.
01:54:19.000And we've got to withdraw our troops from all over the world where they're unconstitutionally placed there.
01:54:26.000And on the second point is on the toll road.
01:54:30.000We know that the powers granted to the federal government by the Constitution are enumerated.
01:54:36.000And the Fed may have a say about the roads in the state as far as interstate commerce goes, but they don't have any say over the roads.
01:54:52.000They pulled this stunt last week of voting down the draft bill to make you think that it's a conspiracy in urban legends, the term they use.
01:55:23.000So in other words, they're kind of using up people to fill quotas, and they're going to run out within a year of people signing up.
01:55:29.000Well, they've got stock gaps of people that have already served!
01:55:32.000Right, and then as, you know, I will say, Kerry, correct me if I'm wrong, but we've got a backdoor draft.
01:55:36.000People signed up for the National Guard.
01:55:37.000They thought that they're here to protect against an attack on the United States itself.
01:55:44.000Instead, you know, they're wandering around the Tigris River.
01:55:48.000You know, that's not what you sign up for the National Guard for.
01:55:52.000One thing you can pretty much count on, if the scene doesn't change, is something called a skills draft.
01:55:59.000And that was in the Houston Chronicle.
01:56:01.000That's with coroners and doctors and engineers.
01:56:04.000Right, they're going to pick out, you know, well, they're not going to have a lottery and a general draft, but boom, you're an airplane engineer, guess what?
01:58:58.000And, uh, it was a female screener, but she still refused.
01:59:01.000And, I mean, they're showing that on the news, and they, oh, well, it's okay, you know, because her supervisor and, and the, well, actually, I think it was the, um, uh, what is it, the Transportation Safety Board or whatever said.
02:00:38.000We've got ten brands of cars, ten brands of ice cream, or whatever else, and we have the choice of Tweedledum, Tweedledee here.
02:00:46.000And I don't think the real people, the real power behind the scenes cares who wins this election, because they're going to play it however they've set the stage.
02:00:53.000According to Kerry, the policies are almost identical.
02:00:58.000Well, I mean, one thing I have checked out is the oil industry is definitely hedging their bets.
02:01:02.000Now, obviously, they feel very close to the Bush family, but I do know some of the big guys are still now putting in money into Kerry just to hedge the bets.
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02:06:59.000He is a Libertarian presidential candidate and an expert on the Constitution.
02:07:05.000Candidates arrested at debate, Libertarian Green Party nominees, and I've met the Green Party presidential candidate as well, interviewed him in New York.
02:07:15.000Both are very nice, gentile gentlemen.
02:07:18.000Two-third party presidential candidates were arrested at the presidential debate in St.
02:07:22.000Louis where they tried to serve the debate commission with a show-cause order.
02:07:27.000Michael Bagnerik of the Libertarian Party and David Cobb of the Green Party were protesting their exclusion from the debate between President Bush and Democratic Party nominee John Kerry.
02:07:40.000And it continues, just as the debate began, the two candidates purposely crossed a police verdicate and were arrested.
02:07:47.000The debate took place at Washington University.
02:07:49.000The campus was alive with protesters and backers of both major candidates.
02:07:54.000And it continues, protesters had no direct path to which the school's athletic complex for the 90-minute studio debate with George Bush's Democratic rival.
02:08:04.000And the Green Party candidate said his purpose was to expose the un-democratic nature of these debates.
02:08:08.000Now, I remember interviewing Charles Key.
02:08:32.000And when he showed up there, they just said, they've decided you can't come.
02:08:37.000The other candidates, and had him kidnapped for an hour and a half, and they threw him out on the side of the highway, literally in a crack-infested neighborhood.
02:08:48.000You know, a guy in a three-piece suit, being thrown out by a basketball court where crack dealers were operating.
02:08:54.000And we interviewed Alan Keyes about that.
02:08:57.000Back in 98, at the end of Bush's speech here in Austin, it was actually Round Rock, at the DuPont photo masking plant, open to the public, I said, what about the Council on Foreign Relations of the Federal Reserve?
02:09:07.000Isn't that destroying America, Governor?
02:09:10.000And they almost broke my arm, kidnapped me for an hour, threw me out on the side of the highway.
02:09:15.000So, joining us to talk about the debate, to talk about what happened to him, to talk about just the whole nature of the police state, is my friend and presidential candidate for the Libertarians, the biggest third party in the country, Michael Bagnerik.
02:09:52.000Okay, now, Michael, let's go over what happened to you and the Green Party candidate as well.
02:09:59.000Well, basically, the Arizona Libertarian Party has filed a lawsuit against the Commission for Presidential Debates.
02:10:07.000We've been trying to serve those papers.
02:10:09.000Whenever you file a lawsuit, you have to let the party know that they have been sued.
02:10:15.000And it is against the law to interfere with a process server.
02:10:19.000So I was acting as a process server in St.
02:10:22.000Louis trying to hand this paperwork to somebody on the Commission.
02:10:27.000The original plan was that this was going to be a very orchestrated thing where the police would tell us politely not to step across the line and that David and I would do that.
02:10:36.000When it came down to it, we were confronted by the riot police with their helmets and shields and batons.
02:10:43.000They remind me very much of Darth Vader and the Roman Army.
02:10:48.000The Roman Army used exactly the same phalanx strategy to keep people back.
02:11:20.000And I was very careful not to make any gestures that might be misconstrued as a threatening gesture.
02:11:26.000And finally, A huge officer in the back row beckoned me through and they opened up the failing so long enough for me to walk through and get arrested.
02:11:35.000So, fortunately, it was a political event, but it could very easily have turned into a life-threatening event for me.
02:11:44.000Well, I want to go through what happened to you once they took you into custody, what happened to the other candidate for the Greens, but going back in time here, Bill Clinton Could not refuse servers going to the White House.
02:11:57.000Now, a few years ago, under Bush, when people wanted to sue over Halliburton and Enron documents, they told process servers, police, we will arrest you if you come to the White House.
02:12:26.000We got through the line, and once we were behind the lines, the police officers there understood that this was a political event, and we were not, David Cobb and I certainly were not a threat to anybody's safety.
02:12:37.000They were very polite, very dignified.
02:12:39.000They handcuffed us, we filled out paperwork, and they put us in the van.
02:12:43.000Then just as we were getting ready to leave for the police station, they stopped the van, and we had to stay another hour because five college students had been walking home during their normal pass back to the dormitory, and because they were unaware that the debate was happening in that particular building, they were thrown to the ground and handcuffed.
02:13:03.000And so we had three young men and two young women who went to the jail with us, and simply for walking home from school.
02:13:13.000And so, when we finally were thrown out of the police station at 12-01, David Cobb and I were signing autographs for students who were upset that they had been arrested, but they were thrilled that they had been arrested with two celebrities.
02:13:29.000That's right, two presidential candidates.
02:13:32.000The Libertarians are a large party now.
02:13:34.000They've got a lot of people elected at the state level.
02:13:39.000Now, did they charge you with something?
02:13:41.000Well, they've charged us with refusing to follow a rational or reasonable direction from a police officer, and then once we were in the van, they added trespassing on to the end of it.
02:13:55.000During the time that they were talking to us, the police opened up the back door of the van, and they said, which one of you guys is a presidential candidate?
02:14:02.000And I said, well, we're both presidential candidates.
02:14:05.000I said, doesn't it strike you as a little odd that you have two presidential candidates in handcuffs at a presidential debate?
02:14:11.000Well, they threatened to arrest Ralph Nader in 2000 if he showed up to the debate.
02:14:35.000We recently selected Miss America from over 50 contestants, and the office of president is far more important.
02:14:41.000So the American people have a right You know, that's a good point you just made, Michael Bachnerik, presidential candidate for the Libertarians, on the national platform, on the ticket.
02:14:51.000Imagine having a Miss America where it was two Miss Americas from the same town, the same university, the same 15-member fraternity, who just so happen to be cousins.
02:15:00.000Do you think people would say the Miss America contest was rigged, Michael?
02:15:04.000I think that's probably true, and I think that more and more people are coming to grips with the idea that voting for the lesser of two evils is not the right strategy.
02:15:14.000Being a libertarian this year is like selling ice water in hell.
02:15:18.000People are actively looking for another party.
02:15:23.000I got onto an elevator dressed casually with a campaign shirt, and five or six people in the elevator noted that, at NARIC for president, we've never heard of him.
02:15:32.000So I shook hands, introduced myself, and let them know that I was running for president, and suddenly everybody in the elevator was voting for me.
02:15:37.000Simply because I was- Listen, Michael, as I said months ago when we talked to you, if they let you in the debates, if they put you on a lot of big TV shows, I don't mean just a few, if they- because you're very intelligent, very well informed, very dynamic character, if you were able to get in there and bring forward your views, I don't think the Greens could do this because their views aren't popular, You could be president, but because the media shuts it all down, people aren't even going to know you exist!
02:16:03.000And that's the biggest problem that we're fighting, the fact that 50% of the people in the United States have never even heard of the Libertarian Party.
02:16:10.000And I appreciate you letting me be on the air, because I know that your show is popular across the nation.
02:16:16.000Every time I show up someplace, people are asking me if I know Alex Jones.
02:16:23.000I'm thrilled to let them know that you and I are personal friends.
02:16:26.000Well, Michael, we are friends, and I really think you're doing a great job, and I'm sad you got arrested, but I'm more concerned that they've charged you with something, and now you're going to have to spend time fighting this.
02:16:37.000They really should throw it out of court.
02:16:39.000Well, we might be able to get that thrown out.
02:16:43.000We're trying to draw attention to the fact that There are several presidential candidates who are on the ballot in enough states to actually win the election, and we are not allowed to participate in the debate.
02:16:55.000When George and John are the only ones, the questions are scripted, the answers are scripted.
02:17:00.000It resembles more of a Broadway play than a debate.
02:17:04.000Well, it is a Broadway play, and I notice Kerry's hair has suddenly turned gray.
02:17:09.000I mean, even gray, their hair looked like the, you know, the... Elder statesman, yeah.
02:17:32.000And we'll just cover a bunch of different news items, get your take on it from a libertarian perspective, and take calls at 1-800-259-9231.
02:17:37.000We'll be right back, PrisonPlanet.tv and InfoWars.com.
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02:22:10.000And take your phone calls, your chance to talk to a Libertarian presidential candidate who was arrested last Friday for trying as a process server to serve any member of the debate commission, which were all over the place.
02:22:22.000And these debates are admittedly staged.
02:22:26.000Michael, I think this is something important to talk about because everybody instinctively now is talking about how these are staged.
02:22:33.000Last week you had Edwards three times going, oh, I broke the rule.
02:23:24.000Again, the Libertarians are filing a lawsuit.
02:23:27.000There will be a judge reviewing that lawsuit tomorrow morning.
02:23:31.000And we think that, A, I will be allowed into the debate, B, George Bush and John Kerry will cancel the debate so that I don't have an opportunity to get into it, or C, I will end up being arrested again in Tempe, Arizona, attempting to participate in that debate.
02:23:52.000No, I got about four feet through the line before they put me in handcuffs.
02:23:57.000I was a free man for about six seconds.
02:24:01.000And so now you're going to be before this judge?
02:24:05.000Well, the process, the lawsuit itself, is being handled in Arizona.
02:24:11.000And there is an anomaly with it, something about the Arizona Constitution, which allows us to do this, makes our case that much stronger.
02:24:20.000And so As Libertarians, we feel we have what is like a bulletproof lawsuit, which means the judges can have to create some Alice in Wonderland excuse to deprive us of access to the debate.
02:24:38.000Basically, that they're using taxpayer money, they're using a taxpayer-funded college, and that based on the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, which means that they have to have equal distribution between the parties, That they are obligated by their own rules that they have written to include me into this debate.
02:25:00.000If I could stand at a podium next to George Bush and John Kerry and debate them, I could change the course of American politics forever.
02:25:07.000And I may or may not win the White House, but suddenly we would shatter the death grip that the Democrats and Republicans currently have on American politics.
02:25:16.000What would you say in your opening statement Mr. Bagnerich, you have two minutes for your opening statement.
02:25:24.000I would ask them why they support a budget which is the Congress spending $700 billion more than their budget.
02:25:33.000I would ask them where the President gets the authority to write executive orders, bypassing the legislative branch and pretending to make laws for 285 million Americans.
02:25:43.000I would ask them, you know, what evidence they had used to go to Iraq and why Congress abdicated their responsibility to declare war and why the President usurped authority to go to war without a congressional declaration.
02:26:03.000And I'd also bring up the Patriot Act.
02:26:05.000I mean, both those candidates are for the new Super Patriot Act that has a national ID card rolled into it.
02:26:41.000All the different Patriot Act 2 areas, plus some new stuff added in.
02:26:46.000I mean, you're talking about the end of America.
02:26:48.000Yes, at the end of America, as we know it, freedom and liberty live not in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, but in the hearts of the people.
02:26:56.000And if the people do not have the courage to stand up and vote for liberty, then all of their rights, America as we used to know it, will cease to exist.
02:27:05.000Well, I tell you, everybody I talk to, Michael, says, oh, I like the libertarian philosophy, I like the platform.
02:27:10.000It's a lot better than these other parties and seems to be constitutional, but I just can't throw my vote away.
02:27:16.000Well, everybody I've talked to says that.
02:27:17.000What would happen if everybody just voted the other way?
02:27:20.000Well, we would suddenly have a constitutionally limited government.
02:27:23.000If everybody in the United States who hates the IRS voted for me, I could win by a landslide.
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02:31:32.000A website billed as a grassroots news source for the anti-globalization movement and other issues said that its web servers were shut down after the FBI served a subpoena.
02:31:41.000The Independent Media Center said the FBI issued an order to hosting company Rackspace for a move physically one of our servers.
02:31:49.000The FBI acknowledged that a subpoena had been issued, but said it was at the request of an Italian and Swiss authorities.
02:31:56.000It is not an FBI operation, FBI spokesman Joe Paris told AFP.
02:32:01.000Through a legal assistance treaty, the subpoena was on behalf of a third country.
02:32:06.000And this was not the product of a U.S.
02:32:08.000investigation, but the agency cooperated under the terms of an international treaty law enforcement.
02:32:39.000Michael Bagnerik, any comments on this globalization development?
02:32:43.000I had no idea that the violations of our rights had gotten that bad.
02:32:47.000That is absolutely atrocious that other countries are coming here and taking our property.
02:32:53.000The Constitution is the supreme law of the land.
02:32:57.000We don't need foreign authority or permission to protect our lives, liberty and property.
02:33:03.000And I want all of your listeners to know that they have free speech zones in the United States.
02:33:08.000I was speaking at a college in a huge auditorium with about 15 students and they told me that I had to speak in the auditorium because as the presidential candidate I had to be in a free speech zone and when I questioned them they admitted that the rest of the campus was not A free speech zone.
02:33:25.000And there was a free speech zone in Boston during the Democratic National Convention.
02:33:29.000Well, they put people inside cages, inside other cages.
02:33:32.000How many students were in the auditorium?
02:33:34.000In my case, there were only about 15, which made me question why they had to... So what happened is, you're walking along at the university, you start talking to people, and they go, hey, you gotta get in there.
02:33:43.000Well, yeah, I had been invited and I was speaking, but it didn't seem rational that we should have a huge auditorium when there were 15 students.
02:33:50.000We could have gotten a small classroom.
02:33:52.000It would have been more informal, a little bit friendlier.
02:33:54.000Yeah, I thought the university was supposed to be a free speech zone.
02:33:58.000And of course, you know, I've watched your case.
02:33:59.000You know, they've charged you with trespassing and all this stuff now.
02:34:03.000This is where somebody wearing a no blood for oil shirt is with 200 Bush supporters on a public street, and they come arrest the innocent person and say, well, you're not allowed to do that.
02:34:26.000Exactly, and now it's a privilege according to them, which is a fraud.
02:34:29.000Of course, in this article about Indian media sites, they say, well, under European law, we don't have to tell you what the investigation is, so we're not even going to tell you why we took your websites down.
02:34:42.000Well, we're not operating under European law, are we?
02:36:07.000It originally came from Government Pro website.
02:36:11.000It says, Feds plan to track every car, and the federal agency admits that very soon all cars will have to have the KTAG transponder, and that in every city, county, and state you will be taxed as you drive.
02:36:23.000You'll have to have one of these that automatically deducts out of your bank account.
02:36:47.000And, you know, trying to make us chattel property.
02:36:51.000Well, I'm sure you've heard about how they're putting cameras in school bathrooms, cameras in police bathrooms, cameras in roadside park bathrooms.
02:36:58.000I mean, it doesn't get any more 1984 than a camera in the bathroom.
02:38:06.000Yeah, I was watching C-SPAN yesterday morning and Brian Lamb was interviewing Ralph Nader.
02:38:12.000And, uh, Ralph's a little upset because the Curie campaign has managed to go into court and block Ralph from getting on certain state ballots.
02:38:22.000Uh, to the point where Ralph is only on 36 ballots this time, where last time I think he was on most of them.
02:38:28.000Um, how is the Curie campaign doing this?
02:38:31.000What strategy are they employing to block Ralph from getting on all the state ballots?
02:41:01.000But anyway, I'm just saying, the kids down here, there's so many young people, they're willing to get out.
02:41:08.000If we would have had a, I don't know if you did, We're in different states, but we have got to have a voter drive and get all these people to vote.
02:41:16.000No, I hear you, and I really appreciate your call.
02:43:14.000Why can't we have the debate for all of the candidates, dividing the skull and bones on the internet, and that way it can get out and as kind of a Practical joke, uh, I know they won't show up, but you could have two or three people there stating each one of their different positions in response to the question.
02:43:36.000Explain that a little bit clearer for me.
02:43:38.000Okay, uh, the internet reaches, uh, so many places all over the world.
02:43:44.000We could have a presidential debate, invite all of the candidates, Michael, Ben, and Eric, and all of the other No, I understand.
02:43:55.000Have a debate, say, in two weeks, and bill it as the real presidential debate.
02:43:59.000They've had third-party debates, and at those third-party debates, Michael Bagnerik, were the big two presidential candidates, the two cousins, were they invited?
02:44:09.000Absolutely, and we made sure that the invitations were registered mail, so we have documented proof that they've received those invitations and chose not to come up.
02:44:20.000We could have debates on the internet, and we are using the internet as much as we possibly can, but there's overall just kind of...
02:44:32.000It's just an apathy on the side of the people to not vote for the bigger two parties.
02:44:37.000And we are doing as much as we can to get information about the Libertarian Party and other third parties out.
02:44:43.000But the people, the people have to give up this crazy idea that they can only vote for the Bush or Kerry or they're wasting their vote.
02:44:56.000Yeah, I've never voted for only one or two candidates.
02:44:59.000I've always voted Libertarian, as well as Republican, as well as Democratic, based on the person.
02:45:04.000The other thing that I have, Alex, is that if something goes down here in Austin, I'm going to be there with my video camera, and I suggest that every other person listening be there with a video camera, and I'll be several blocks away, kind of hit them so that they won't be able to confiscate it.
02:45:24.000Basically station people all the way around.
02:45:29.000If the globalists carry off some type of fake terror attack or every type of event they pull, we need to be there with our video cameras documenting it.
02:45:37.000Now, Michael Bagnerik, we see this trend of confiscating journalists' video cameras.
02:45:42.000It happened to me in New York, grabbing people's cameras all over the country now.
02:45:47.000Somehow our cameras are bad, their cameras are good.
02:46:15.000And I'm hoping that we can motivate people to vote for third parties And change the way they think so that we don't have to have a bloody rebellion.
02:46:36.000Real quickly, I'm just looking at the Metro Voice, and it says voting with a Christian worldview.
02:46:42.000I want to know if I get on your website, Mr. Bagnerich, will you answer any questions for me about, like, the defense of marriage acts, same-sex unions, gay adoptions, and also about abortion.
02:47:05.000I'm sorry I got the calls scrambled somehow, and I apologize.
02:47:10.000But Michael Bagnerik, I'm sad that they arrested you, but it's just par for the course to have two presidential candidates, the Green and the Libertarian, basically kidnapped for no reason and then charged with crimes.
02:47:22.000We're trying to serve papers on the debate commission to let you guys into the next debate.
02:47:27.000And I do support having you and others, Michael Perutka and others, in these presidential debates.
02:47:35.000We should have at least 10 people up there and have a real discussion, not a staged hoodwinking of the American people.
02:48:08.000There goes Michael Bagnerik, arrested at last Friday's Republican National staged event with Lord Kerry.
02:48:16.000Arrested there at the Republican and Democrat National Debate for the two presidential candidates, along with the Green Party candidate.
02:48:25.000We'll come back, hit a couple of final news items that are very important, and wrap up this transmission of the Alex Jones Show.
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02:53:03.000And a lot of top military people have grumbled that if they're going to win, they've got to fight now, not say you're going to get a 3-4 month respite, because they've been for months not attacking.
02:53:15.000Although American commanders in Iraq have been buoyed by recent success in insurgent held towns, such as Samara and Tal Afar, administration and Pentagon officials say they will not try to retake cities such as Fallujah and Ramadi, where the insurgents' grip is strongest.
02:53:32.000And also Hollywood to sue over peer-to-peer companies that most of the stuff that are being transferred is copyright free, but they don't want Any of this going on because people are transferring movies online and so that battle is going on.
02:53:46.000They just lost a court battle last week and are hopping mad over that.
02:53:50.000The news is also reporting, the Associated Press is, price controls over regulation cause flu vaccine shortage.
02:53:59.000And they do this every year like it's, you know, that Christmas toy that's sold out.
02:54:04.000Number one, they've got plenty of flu vaccine.
02:54:06.000Number two, the reason they claim they might have a shortage originally was two weeks ago, the maker of the flu vaccine, of half the flu vaccine for the U.S., in England was shut down because all of their vials had live flu virus in it.
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