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00:00:59.000The real news is the election coming up on Tuesday, as you know.
00:01:05.000And we also, of course, have the Iraq War degenerating on a daily basis.
00:01:13.000And I got this email, you know, I mentioned how Senator Harkin said that, well, Bush is going to need a draft.
00:01:21.000And we just posted the article and somebody sent me an email saying, you better stop posting stuff that communists have to say or I'm not going to listen to you.
00:01:31.000And I rarely talk about, you know, criticism from the mainstream media, but criticism from listeners on stuff like that.
00:02:16.000This is out of the Philadelphia Daily News.
00:02:18.000It's on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:02:21.000Two men who worked extensively in the records of the World Trade Center claim That they and federal agents found three or four black boxes from the jetliners that struck the towers, contradicting the official account, both the Independent 9-11 Commission, again Independent folks, appointed by Bush,
00:02:42.000And federal authorities insist that none of the cockpit voice recorders, or CVRs, and flight data recorders, FDRs, from the two planes survived.
00:02:53.000But, of course, we know they're designed to survive that, and that we've always speculated they did survive, but of course we're not going to release that, because they don't want us to know what really happened.
00:03:04.000And now we have New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMasi has written a book, self-published, and It claims that federal agents took away the black boxes on all-terrain four-wheelers out of the wreckage, and his account is backed by a well-known Ground Zero volunteer.
00:03:28.000So we'll be going over this report today as well.
00:03:32.000Meanwhile, Drudge is reporting CIA, FBI, Authenticate, New Al-Qaeda terror tape!
00:03:40.000ABC News executives consider political implications of airing it.
00:03:46.000Now how many fake Al-Qaeda tapes have been put out?
00:03:49.000Then it comes out a month later that they were fake, but that's retracted on page A-10 in small print.
00:03:59.000And so, more of these terror alerts, and most of them have been completely fake, and then you look at the real ones, the real terror attacks, those have government fingerprints literally all over them.
00:04:10.000Coming up in this first hour, we're going to talk to Dr. Vivian Nathanson, head of the Science and Ethics at the BMA, British Medical Association, talking about gene wars, race-specific bioweapons, that's a pretty serious issue, we'll be discussing it.
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00:08:35.000From the World Trade Center Complex, seen Are now going public saying that all of the black boxes, there's two per plane, the data recorder, the audio recorders, were found intact in the rubble.
00:08:56.000And that they were whisked away on those four wheelers that they had buzzing in and out of the tangled slag heap.
00:09:05.000Now again, they have designed these flight recorders to bake inside ovens at thousands of degrees of temperature for many, many hours and not be damaged.
00:09:21.000But whether it's TWA, Flight 800, or any of these big disasters where it's obviously terrorism, the Queens, New York crash just a few weeks after 9-11, in every case they go, oh, the data recorders were destroyed, or The data recorders were lost.
00:09:41.000Well, they say that they located the boxes and that they watched them be loaded onto four-wheelers and driven out of there.
00:09:53.000Now, this gets into a wider area of discussion.
00:09:57.000There were twelve, at least twelve, some say fourteen, but confirmed twelve video cameras connected to VCRs that were recorded from bank buildings, the YMCA, the federal building itself, that were with Oklahoma City videotaping what happened.
00:10:25.000And FBI agents have told the LA Times that it chose McVeigh with Arabs.
00:10:31.000And we have interviewed these individuals, and we have the interviews in 9-11 The Road to Tyranny.
00:10:38.000We have the mainstream news articles as well.
00:10:41.000I have interviewed the lawyers who sued the government two separate times to get those tapes so they could then sue Saudi Arabia and Iraq and others and they were blocked under national security.
00:10:57.000And it's the same thing with the Pentagon.
00:10:59.000You've got at least three hotels with multiple cameras aimed right at the area that was supposedly hit by that flight.
00:11:07.000You have several gas stations and you have literally hundreds of cameras on the Pentagon and even mainstream media reports say forty cameras aiming off the face of the Pentagon in the area where the plane came from.
00:11:25.000And all they gotta do is release this video of McVeigh.
00:11:27.000I mean, the FBI came and seized those tapes and declared national security.
00:11:33.000Well, if it shows McVeigh by himself, Oh, why don't you just use them to convict him?
00:11:38.000Wow, imagine showing that on the news!
00:11:41.000If you've got footage of this plane, and there's all these conspiracy theories about how a Boeing didn't hit the Pentagon in the construction area, then why did the FBI go in, and again, they've been interviewed, into the hotels under national security and grab those tapes away from people and threaten them with a national security arrest if they talk about what they saw on the tapes.
00:12:05.000Why did they declare that all the firefighter and police radios malfunctioned on 9-11, and so there's no tapes of what the firemen and police said in the towers?
00:12:18.000Now, I said day one, that is utterly ridiculous, that is impossible, and then it came out in the New York Daily News, what, two years ago, a year into the cover-up, that Firefighters got mad and released transcripts.
00:13:00.000This is your loving government, folks, and it's admitted.
00:13:04.000And so now, now they've always been saying the flight recorders just magically burned into centers, which, you look at the steel didn't, but you know, the super reinforced boxes did, and then now
00:13:22.000the uh... some of the head firefighters and head rescue workers says very highly respected individuals are going we're sick and tired of this we loaded four flight recorders uh... on the backs of uh... four wheelers and the FBI drove off with them and then when we do have photographic evidence the flare footage did get leaked by sources in the government and the CIA director uh... had a canoeing accident the next day a kayaking accident after it got released
00:13:52.000And we've had on the sources who it was released to.
00:13:57.000And then once the clear footage is out, the government goes, OK, we're releasing it, but like a 10th generation copy.
00:14:02.000And they go, those little flashes from the ends of guns, that's just glitter on the ground.
00:14:06.000You watch every other piece of footage over the last 20 years, 30 years since FLIR's been used, forward infrared looking radar, and that's the same Christmas tree flashes from the guns, but they go, well, just ignore that.
00:14:20.000You know, you didn't see machine guns, and you didn't see us throwing incendiary devices into the buildings.
00:14:28.000You know, a guy rolling out of the back of the tank, firing with a machine gun walking forward and throwing in a hand grenade uh... you didn't see what you just saw with your own two eyes just you didn't see that so shut up!
00:14:42.000Joining us just for a few minutes here, and I appreciate it, is Paul Watson, to go over this Philadelphia Daily News.
00:14:47.000Because I'll be honest with you, I didn't hit the printer friendly, and the article's cut in half.
00:14:52.000I read it this morning, and I was babbling through it last segment, trying to decipher the last two words of every line.
00:14:57.000So Paul's here to read this for us, and then of course give us his comment.
00:15:01.000Paul, thank you for helping me because of my oversight.
00:15:15.000You know, they tell us that at least two of the paper passports of the hijackers were found both on the streets of New York and the eight mile wide debris field in Pennsylvania.
00:15:29.000And yet, you know, we're supposed to believe that the black boxes, which are basically indestructible, were never found.
00:15:36.000And obviously this article points towards the direction in which They were found, and obviously the contents of those black boxes will be very revealing in terms of what's on them.
00:15:47.000I mean, we've had the phone calls, supposedly, which were brought out in the 9-11 Commission report.
00:15:52.000We've had the hijackers' voices supposedly heard over the voice recorders in the cockpit.
00:16:00.000And so, again, that's to back up the storyboard which they created before 9-11, which encapsulates the official version of events, which was that 19 hijackers pulled this off.
00:16:13.000Now, if these black boxes, which are obviously part of this cover-up, you know, don't have Arab voices on them, then it would lend credence to a different explanation that, you know, as people like Stanley Hilton have put forward, There were no hijackers.
00:16:30.000Some kind of gas was used to knock out the pilots and the passengers and then the planes were flown via remote control into their targets.
00:16:40.000These Arabs, these guys that have got short haircuts and are hard drinkin' and work at U.S.
00:16:45.000military bases and have their homes and cars and credit cards paid for by the FBI and CIA and who leave the country and then when embassy officials go, these guys are terrorists, the CIA goes, they're part of a secret training operation, let them back in.
00:16:59.000These guys were on board, at least 11, of the 19, and we've even interviewed the widows of these people, and we have high-level other sources.
00:17:08.000They were actually government agents, part of the admitted drills that were taking place that morning.
00:17:14.000Well, yeah, at least the ringleaders, the people who were supposedly flying the planes, they would have been direct government agents.
00:17:25.000And then you've got the possibility of the other so-called hijackers who didn't believe that it was a suicide mission, because there were many reports that emerged from people like Zacharias Mussoe, who was kind of tangentially in on the plot on the outside, who thought, you who was kind of tangentially in on the plot on the outside, who thought, you know, It was just a hijack mission and then a hostage situation.
00:17:50.000They may have killed some of the hijackers on board who were basically useful idiots and then, you know, the ringleaders were actually not on the planes at all.
00:17:57.000Well this is going to be a big problem for the globalists because they were doing these drills, these simulations in real time with real people to quote, test the response of law enforcement at every level and so of course they had with their informants some patsies and with their Arabs I suppose that hijackers out making contacts trying to see what was going on out there.
00:18:19.000These guys were actually thinking they were serving the American interest.
00:18:24.000Really hired Arab mercenaries hired to come over here and be part of these drills.
00:18:28.000But some of them from the evidence were actually American patriots, people who wanted to work with the West, a very secular people.
00:18:35.000But they found out real quick who they were really working for.
00:18:38.000But this is going to hurt the system as more and more people in their own system go public and say the whole thing's a fraud.
00:18:46.000I mean, at what step of the 9-11 whitewash have we not proven everything they say to be 180 degrees opposite from the truth?
00:18:56.000The evidence that they've presented is the most outrageous coincidence theory that you could possibly imagine.
00:19:05.000We've proven every point of the case to be completely the opposite, as you've said.
00:19:11.000I mean, Tony Blair came out in the days after 9-11 and said there'll be a court case, you know, where we present all the evidence that these 19 Arabs were involved.
00:19:21.000And so now they have to resort to Uh, myth making by creating all these stories, you know, let's roll stories and then trying to back them up.
00:19:30.000Trying to back up the hijack and myth by just presenting all these paper passports and visas which was supposedly found, you know, in the rubble.
00:19:38.000So, the show's desperation on their part.
00:19:41.000Well, I'll tell you what, Paul, stay there.
00:19:42.000When we get back, I want you to just read the article because, again, I...
00:19:47.000I have the printer, unfriendly version here, and part of it's cut off.
00:19:50.000I want you to come back, just read over some of the articles, some of the people involved, a firefighter, Nicholas, Damasi, and others who are exposing this, and we'll let you get back to work.
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00:24:16.000Firefighters, emergency workers say they loaded the black boxes into government vehicles, and this is now mainstream, From the 9-11 crash site in New York, but the government says nothing was ever found.
00:24:31.000So we'll have Paul Watson back on with us here in about 15 minutes.
00:24:34.000Right now I'm very honored to have Dr. Vivian Nathanson, Head of Science and Ethics at the BMA, British Medical Association.
00:24:43.000In an article titled, that she was interviewed for, by the London Times, Gene Wars, only a few years away, say doctors.
00:24:52.000Now, about two years ago, Jane's Weapons Quarterly, the most respected weapons analyst organization on the planet, put out a worldwide alert saying the western world is already covertly developing this, but now the third world can even get it.
00:25:09.000And one of the PNAC documents from 2000, Dick Cheney talked about legitimizing the use of race-specific bioweapons.
00:25:16.000And a British Member of Parliament, Michael Meacher, even wrote an article for The Guardian, of course our media didn't, saying how dangerous it was that there was now open discussion of this.
00:25:26.000I'm not sure if Dr. Vivian Nathanson was aware of those developments, but she's on the cutting edge of exposing what's going on with this.
00:25:34.000And Dr. Vivian Nathanson, good to have you on with us.
00:25:40.000For those that don't know what race-specific bioweapons are, can you explain it to us?
00:25:45.000Yes, what we're looking at here is the fact that because of a lot of medical research, we're identifying those things in our genes that are common within extended family groups or ethnic groups, because that will allow us to target medicines at people who have particular problems, many kinds of diseases which are common in particular ethnic groups.
00:26:06.000But the trouble is that that same technology, the ability to target these common genes, would allow us to target something which would cause harm, whether it's a germ that would be activated in the presence of those genes, or something that would modify the way our body works, what we call bioregulators, because either of those would be biological weapons.
00:26:26.000I mean, currently banned under international law, but the question is whether the law is strong enough or effective enough to make sure that people don't use them.
00:26:36.000Well, I mean, Bush just got $6 billion or $5.8 billion of funding this year for BioShield, and they claim these three dozen Level 4 bioweapons labs, by the way, one very close to where I live, unfortunately, and they're building new ones, that it's, quote, for treatment and investigation of it, But then the experts look at it and go, no, these are biological weapons development labs.
00:27:00.000I mean, obviously they also have the dual use for developing treatments and cures, but that's not the direction they're going in.
00:27:06.000I mean, this is a Pandora's box that could make the nuclear bomb look like a toy.
00:27:12.000Yeah, I mean, this is a real problem, because the thing about nuclear weapons is it's actually quite difficult to get hold of weapons-grade radioactive material.
00:27:20.000The problem with biological weapons, or indeed chemical weapons, is that the The basic materials that you need are actually relatively easy to get hold of.
00:27:29.000I mean in the past we've been protected because things like actually getting hold of the smallpox virus has been difficult.
00:27:37.000But increasingly scientists can actually now manufacture viruses from scraps of RNA or DNA.
00:27:44.000I mean poliovirus was the first one to be manufactured in that way.
00:27:48.000And what we have to recognize is that it's A, going to be easier, B, going to be cheaper because of a lot of automation and so on.
00:27:55.000And the other thing is that the overlap between what's called defensive research and offensive research is extremely narrow.
00:28:04.000Sure, if you want to defend against things you need to know how people using them as weapons would make them, what they would do so that you can defend that.
00:28:12.000But the real key to all of this is that the only real defense is prevention.
00:28:18.000Well, I would say the only real defense is not allowing the development of these, period.
00:28:26.000And that requires three different things, we think.
00:28:29.000It needs international action, which is that we have this convention, the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, and that needs to be given real international teeth.
00:28:37.000It needs to have UN inspectorates and all the rest of it, so that people can go in and inspect labs and seize suspect material.
00:28:44.000We also need to have national legislation in every country so that the manufacture of such weapons would be such a serious criminal offence that it would really put people off.
00:28:54.000And thirdly, we need a kind of web of deterrence involving scientists monitoring what they're doing, what people in their labs are doing, what people are doing in other labs, because that's the best way of raising the standards.
00:29:05.000If you put those three things together, we have a real chance Well, it's the sword of Damocles held over all of our necks.
00:29:12.000without all three we have very little chance and we would just have to rely on picking up the pieces afterwards which means that people will have suffered.
00:29:20.000Well it's the sword of Damocles held over all of our necks.
00:29:25.000We're talking to Dr. Vivian Nathanson, head of the science and ethics for the British Medical Association.
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00:33:16.000We're just about five days out now from the big election.
00:33:20.000We've got election coverage coming up in detail with Bev Harris from Black Box Voting exposing all the voting machine problems that have already popped up in early voting and her predictions in the next hour.
00:33:33.000Right now we're joined by a prestigious doctor, Dr. Vivian Nathanson, head of the Science and Ethics at the British Medical Association.
00:33:42.000Headline out of the London Times, gene wars only a few years away, say doctors.
00:33:47.000And the article says that the Although the BMA insists that genetic weapons have yet to be built, it concluded that their construction is now approaching reality and a genetic bomb was developed that could contain anthrax of the plague and be tailored to activate when it identified a certain group of genes indicating membership of a particular ethnic group in the infected person.
00:34:09.000Folks, we know South Africa develops stuff like this.
00:34:13.000Again, Jane's Weapons Quarterly, who told us about the B-2 bomber years before it was rolled out on the tarmac at the Skunk's Works, they've said this stuff's already been made.
00:34:24.000Again, our government says, well, we haven't really made it, we're just studying it.
00:34:29.000And there's been a lot of articles saying, and Doctor, this is what I'm, well, comment on what I was just saying.
00:34:37.000The reality is here that we never know exactly what These research programs have been doing until much later, not least because most of our countries are signatories to the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention and much of this research is at best questionable and in some cases frankly illegal.
00:34:56.000But we know for example that research was carried out after people signed the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention in the mid-seventies.
00:35:04.000We know that the USSR had a huge biological weapons program.
00:35:07.000What's interesting is that one of the major lessons from that is that accidents will happen.
00:35:13.000It's not only the deliberate release but accidental release of anthrax.
00:35:17.000The USSR killed nearly 80 people in a local town and indeed even though it wasn't part of a biological weapons research program it was a smallpox release, accidental release from a hospital in Britain that gave us our last case also in the 1970s.
00:35:32.000So these are very dangerous agents but there are interesting issues here about
00:35:38.000Do we as members of society think they should be used particularly if we could find non-lethal versions because one of the things we find most worrying is politicians and international commentators saying maybe we should look for biological weapons that are not usually lethal and use those and change the law so that it's legitimate to use those and we find that very worrying because of course you can never guarantee that the weapon is not lethal
00:36:05.000And it starts to change the whole concept of bioweapons and to make their general use increasingly likely because there isn't that kind of public disapprobation of it.
00:36:15.000Well, it's just like they're using depleted uranium now in three nations, twice in Iraq, four times.
00:36:21.000Uh, when it's going to be around for millions of years and it admittedly is killing Iraqi, Serbs, our troops, uh, Afghans, our troops there as well.
00:36:30.000Multinational force getting sick from it.
00:36:32.000We know that's happening, they're still using it.
00:36:34.000We know now they want to use mini-nukes all over the planet, which, there's no such thing as a mini-nuke, folks.
00:36:39.000And then at the same time, our governments are racing ahead with these facilities.
00:36:45.000You didn't mention Porton Down with the foot-and-mouth release.
00:36:50.000According to British newspapers, that was released or stolen, they're not sure, from there, they claim, and then that story disappeared.
00:37:11.000Kind of on your inside track, Doctor, as the Head of Science and Ethics at the BMA?
00:37:16.000No, we haven't seen any further ones than the ones which are well known and heavily publicized and particularly the results of the Anthrax release in Russia and I think that that is particularly significant.
00:37:28.000Because there's a lot of analysis now of how effective the cover-up was, in terms of trying not to let people know what had happened, despite the fact that tens of thousands of people in Russia were working for BioPreparat, which was the biological warfare unit which was actually producing biological weapons.
00:37:52.000I mean, I think we have to accept that around the planet there are A lot of germs stored for good reason and for bad reason, the stuff that's stored from previous biological weapons research.
00:38:04.000What's more worrying is the fact that genetic technology gives us the ability to manipulate old germs that we might have good vaccines or antibiotics or agents for, and to make them more effective.
00:38:17.000We know that people, for example, at the moment are looking at the 1918 Spanish flu, which killed somewhere between 20 and 40 million people worldwide.
00:38:25.000Now they're not doing it for bad reason.
00:38:27.000They're doing it because they're trying to learn more about that flu because we need to understand why that was so lethal because there's always the possibility that the kinds of flu epidemics we see regularly could mutate back to something that lethal and we need to see what we could do to prevent it.
00:38:43.000But there have to be worries about if that kind of research is going on whether that agent, if we could kind of re-manufacture 1918 flu, could be released by accident.
00:38:54.000And that's why a lot of the energy is going into safety systems.
00:39:00.000But we mustn't be fooled by just the safety systems.
00:39:04.000They'll never give us complete security and we also need To deal with people who would deliberately release, not just the accidental release.
00:39:18.000University of Texas at Austin is doing a bunch of sneaky stuff.
00:39:21.000I know people in the biology department, they're not supposed to be doing it.
00:39:24.000It's not level 4, but they're doing level 4 stuff, my friends.
00:39:27.000They have a level 4 down at Galveston, here in Texas.
00:39:31.000But then in other areas, they're saying they're going to have them in the middle of big cities, in New York.
00:39:36.000Uh, and in Baltimore, Maryland, and in San Francisco, and they have a map of where they're doing this, or where they're expanding it, and it's always, it seems, right out in the middle of a giant population.
00:39:48.000Uh, I mean, if they're going to do this, which I don't think they should, why are they doing it right smack dab in the middle of cities?
00:39:57.000I mean, I know it helps them attract More good scientists and stuff, but I mean it just seems like they're throwing caution to the wind with the potential stuff that could kill hundreds of millions of people.
00:40:09.000I mean clearly of course part of the investment is in containment.
00:40:15.000It's about the fact that today we have very sophisticated systems for trying to stop accidental escapes and the question is Are they sufficiently secure?
00:40:27.000That's up to local city planners and to national and local government.
00:40:32.000I think of more significance in a sense than that is why are there so many units being set up?
00:40:39.000Is there enough investment in prevention of weapons use rather than this enormous, gigantic investment In defensive, offensive research, or offensive, defensive research, whichever way you want to put it, because the question is whether we're spending the money in the best way to make the people of your country and of my country safe, and indeed all the people of the world safer.
00:41:04.000And I think that the biggest amount of money should be being spent on international law and international protection, because that will give us better protection.
00:41:12.000Well again, Dr. Vivian Nathanson, Head of the Science and Ethics at BMA, British Medical Association.
00:41:19.000Read the article at InfoWars.com or InfoWars.net.
00:41:29.000Really boiling this down for people, you keep saying international, international, UN inspectors, overseeing, basically watching all the scientists in the world that are involved in this, and frankly it's 2004, this stuff is only going to get more prolific.
00:41:47.000And so part one of the question is, the UN itself has been caught being so corrupt, so many internal payoffs, so much stuff going on, and at the same time, this is the argument for global government, is we've got to have this to stop these proliferations of chemical, biological, radiological stuff, or we're all going to be destroyed.
00:42:08.000But then, you know, these global bodies themselves have been involved in so much corruption.
00:42:13.000And then part two of that is IBM, in league with the government, with the human genome, is now making the human genome sequencing, as you know I'm sure, available to more and more private companies who can then bootleg it out to whoever wants it.
00:42:30.000I mean, shouldn't the Human Genome Project itself be a classified matter?
00:42:36.000Well, if I can answer the last question first, I think the key issue here is how do we keep science private and confidential?
00:42:44.000Because the answer is we probably can't because of the nature of the internet and the nature of the information age in which we live.
00:42:51.000And the second side is if you do keep it quiet, what do we lose?
00:42:54.000Because what we lose is the ability of scientists in often fairly small centres To do research which might give us huge leaps forward in medical treatment and medical technology because a lot of the big leaps forward have come in relatively small units as well as the big pharmaceutical companies.
00:43:10.000So we have to balance that against how we achieve safety and if you can't keep the information secret anyway then let's make it public but let's build systems
00:43:20.000which say that we will watch what people are doing with that information as far as we're able and we'll try to build a global consensus so that nobody willingly gets into doing the kind of research which is deliberately set up to harm people and one can criticize the UN or other agencies but on the whole I think in the UK we tend to think of the UN in a far more positive way we think that it is actually an important contributor to the safety and security of the planet
00:43:48.000And we think that the Biological and Toxic Weapons Convention is incredibly important and that it isn't international inspection on its own which would give us safety, but it is a key part of the processes that we need to have in place.
00:44:01.000But we also need openness and transparency.
00:44:04.000We need laboratories to be willing to be inspected wherever they are in the world.
00:44:11.000What about IBM now with the human genome sequencing that it's publicly available now?
00:44:18.000But I think that it's inevitable that it would be and I think it's important that it was because again we get back to The necessity for that information is a powerful tool for people doing research, because this is the problem with this technology.
00:44:30.000This technology is also going to give us treatments for people with diseases that we're really bad at treating.
00:44:36.000So what you're saying, Doctor, is Pandora's Box has been left open for a long time, and now we've got to deal with the ramifications of it?
00:45:04.000I appreciate you joining us, but a few years ago the mousepox sequencing was released by a university in Australia and then according to the articles I read, I'm not a geneticist or a scientist, but according to the scientists we've interviewed and according to the press reports, You can take that and then basically replicate that in any mammal you want and it's got a massive death rate, much times greater than naturally occurring smallpox.
00:45:35.000Why are universities and others publishing the ingredients list for easily any big medium-sized lab to produce something that kills almost everybody that comes in contact with it?
00:45:49.000It's an extraordinarily difficult question this because one of the things the people with the mousepox experiment They hadn't realised when they first started the work how significant the potential of the information they were producing was.
00:46:00.000When they did realise that, they talked to the editors of journals, to the people who controlled and paid for their research, to ask, should we publish this?
00:46:08.000And there was a great deal of thought given to that.
00:46:11.000And it was decided in the end to publish it, but with appropriate caveats and warnings about this, but not in quite the way that allows you, in the way you said, to immediately go into other animals.
00:46:22.000Other people have actually used some of that information and gone on to do newer research which is more worrying.
00:46:29.000The difficulty is it's very difficult to draw a line between research which is only going to give good information for good and information which might be abused and in fact it probably is impossible and if we actually start to shut down research protocols then we have to accept that we're going to enter almost into a scientific dark age.
00:46:48.000Well, you know, that's really what we're facing here, is that either we have this draconian global government that imposes a new dark age and basically freezes technological development for the general public at one level, and then, regardless, that then increases the power of the elite and these new technological spires that are already developing above our plane of technological existence.
00:47:17.000And, you know, that's where I see it going regardless.
00:47:20.000I mean, we know that most of the real developments have been kept secret already over the last 50 years, and so I have to question why then they're publishing stuff that some tin horn dictator could use to produce thousands of gallons of liquid death.
00:47:34.000Well, at the moment I don't think the information and the technology is there to produce thousands of gallons, and I think it's a little bit more complex than that, although I share You're concerned that the way the technology and automation is moving it will become cheaper and quicker and easier to produce powerful agents and more worrying still that the intelligent could then use the knowledge to manipulate different germs and different agents.
00:48:00.000Well, Doctor, the quote I was giving you was from an article that had a former Russian biological weapons expert calling it thousands of gallons of liquid death.
00:48:11.000And he was recognizing that what Biopreparat did in the USSR was produce literally thousands of gallons of different agents and pounds of powdered agents such as anthrax spores and smallpox and so on.
00:48:24.000I mean, one of the things we have to be very aware of as well is that there are also huge stores left over from the work that Biopreparat did, and that still has all to be destroyed.
00:48:34.000You know, I think BioShield, what we're building, is going to rival the size of that, and of course go past the sophistication.
00:48:41.000But bottom line, and this is the last question, what do you think the chances are in the next ten years that we're going to see a major biological, serious, I mean something that dwarfs anthrax, biological weapons release of a communicable disease biological weapons release of a communicable disease here in the Western world?
00:49:02.000I I think that it is extremely likely that we will see an attempt to do that.
00:49:09.000Whether it will be successful in the sense of producing enough
00:49:14.000People infected to pass on an agent and start an epidemic is another question because there are still difficulties in producing agents in a way that infects enough people to start an epidemic but I think that it has to be a very serious worry and I think that if we look ten years beyond that what we're really looking at then is the possibility of instead of it being germs, instead of it being viruses or bacteria that are used
00:49:42.000That it will be the chemicals that control body processes that will be affected at a genetic level.
00:50:12.000And I think that there's good reason to worry about those, not least because we don't have antidotes to most of those, so in many ways you could see them as a worse biological weapon.
00:50:24.000You know, a lot of scientists, doctors, say sodium fluoride is just that.
00:50:30.000I mean, there's a lot of chemicals that already have an effect on the body chemistry, but the sophistication of producing some of these bioregulators for the future Is that you could actually produce them so that they have a delayed effect.
00:50:42.000Alright, the website... And the danger of that is you then can't diagnose it.
00:50:45.000Thank you so much, Doctor, for coming on with us.
00:50:53.000Thank you so much for coming on with us.
00:50:54.000Alright, we'll be right back, folks, with Paul Watson and then a bunch of other news and another guest, so stay with us.
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00:54:24.000We've got these weapons that can kill everybody and so we've got to have a global government and inspections to deal with it and that's how they sell people like Dr. Vivian Nathanson on this whole New World Order.
00:55:12.000And they're, meanwhile, out there proliferating these things everywhere.
00:55:18.000And the plan is, get the police state in place, and the globalists are going to have controlled releases of these all over the world, until they get more and more control.
00:55:28.000So being aware of it, though, is a large part of the battle.
00:55:32.000So don't think just because you're part of the system you'll be protected.
00:55:35.000I meant to ask her, too, about these dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of biological weapons experts that have been dying in airlock accidents, car wrecks, being shot in the back of the head, drowning.
00:56:03.000Yeah, sorry, I had got my times switched with that guest coming on, so I had to come back to you.
00:56:10.000Continuing with this article, just briefly out of the Philadelphia Daily News, they described firefighters, emergency workers saying that they found three of the four black boxes that are actually orange and white, and then they went and interviewed more firefighters who said, yeah, from Engine Company 261,
00:56:30.000They went and loaded these up and watched them drive away and they admit that the black boxes are meant to take heats and G's much greater than what was in the centers.
00:56:42.000Do you want to read some of this article, folks?
00:56:47.000Yeah, well the headline is 9-11 black box cover-up at ground zero.
00:56:53.000So two men who worked extensively in the wreckage of the World Trade Center claim they helped federal agents find three of the four black boxes from the jetliners that struck the towers on 9-11, contradicting the official account.
00:57:06.000Both the Independent 9-11 Commission and Federal Authorities continue to insist that none of the four devices, the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder from the two planes, were ever found in the wreckage.
00:57:18.000But New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMarcy has written a recent book, self-published by several Ground Zero workers, He escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate three of the four.
00:57:33.000His account is supported by a volunteer, Mike Baloney, whose efforts at Ground Zero have been chronicled in the New York Times and elsewhere.
00:57:41.000Baloney said, assisted DeMasi and the agents and that saw a device that resembled a black box in the back of the firefighter's ATV.
00:57:53.000Their story raises the question of whether there was some type of cover-up at Ground Zero.
00:57:58.000Federal aviation officials blaming the massive devastation have said that the World Trade Center attack seemed to be the only major jetliner crashes in which the critical devices were never located.
00:58:10.000A footnote to the 9-11 Commission report issued this summer flatly states, quote, the CVRs and FDRs from American and United 175 American 11 and United 175, the two planes that hit the Trade Center, were not found.
00:58:25.000And officials for the FBI, which oversaw the cleanup at Ground Zero, and the New York City Fire Department repeated this week that the devices were never recovered.
00:59:32.000Finishing up with Paul Watson, an article out of the Philadelphia Daily News today.
00:59:36.000A bunch of different workers, the headline is to save it, and now a bunch of others are in the article saying it as well.
00:59:44.000Firefighters, emergency workers, if they were loading the black boxes onto FBI four-wheelers and driving them out of the rubble, And the government says that they were all destroyed, unlike any other major plane crash.
00:59:56.000But it says they are built to survive the impact of 3,400 Gs and a fire of 1,100 degrees Celsius, somewhat higher than estimates of the World Trade Center blaze.
01:00:11.000I can't recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders.
01:00:16.000Ted's spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board told CBS News in 2002. - Good.
01:00:23.000So whether it's Oklahoma City or the Pentagon or any of these events, the cameras all get confiscated with the footage, the firefighter tapes all get confiscated, everybody gets told to shut up, and now with the black boxes, they're all destroyed, which of course is not true now.
01:00:41.000But magically a passport falls down from the sky, Paul, with one of the hijackers on it, undamaged, is picked up by authorities, but then it turns out that that guy's still alive and it was fake, and so they go, uh, it's not true, but then never retract the official story.
01:01:00.000Well it is, and you mentioned the Pentagon.
01:01:04.000Um, there's a Scientific American article which states that, um, Although older recorders using magnetic tape were susceptible to fire damage, no solid-state device has been destroyed in an accident to date.
01:01:42.000Yeah, and then I've got also on the Pentagon, Black Box's CBS story from 2002 where FBI Director Mueller said that Flight 77's data recorder provided altitude, speed, headings and other information but the voice recorder contained nothing useful.
01:02:01.000So again, go back to the article which said Where they did the autopsy of the victims of the Pentagon crash, where it said no Arabs found in autopsy.
01:02:11.000So, I mean... But the bodies, the bodies survived, but only one or two pieces of metal.
01:02:17.000Man, I tell you, that is, these are some powerful bodies.
01:02:22.000Well, the point is, they wouldn't, because obviously this records the last 30 seconds of voice exchange in the cockpit, and so the FBI refused to release that, saying it was, it wasn't useful.
01:02:33.000It again points to the fact that these Arabs weren't even on board because none of them were found at the crash site of the Pentagon.
01:02:42.000And yet supposedly they found the black box within three days of the attack.
01:02:47.000They got the footage from Oklahoma City.
01:03:18.000They could silence all this debate about the Pentagon by releasing the footage from all those hotels and gas stations and the Pentagon itself.
01:03:25.000All they release is a few frames of a flash, a white hot explosion hitting the side of it.
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01:12:08.000And it seems to have experienced a slight attack ten minutes after we published some very sensitive information.
01:12:14.000Well, Bev, can we... Is there any sites... The answer to this, just like when they tried to make you take down Bible documents, hundreds of universities and private sites posted it, and then they had to back off.
01:12:27.000I think the answer is getting packets of your video and documents out to about 20 websites And they can't bring us all down without it being too obvious.
01:12:37.000Are there any mirror sites that have this in the interim while you're down?
01:12:42.000However, one of the other things they're working on very hard right now is to make sure that people don't know about specifically my website, blackboxvoting.org.
01:12:52.000And when we've done it through the mirrors, one thing that does succeed is that It keeps people from our website, which has got consistently the most devastating information.
01:13:02.000Yeah, so when they go to another site, they just get a small piece of it, instead of a large spectrum analysis.
01:13:56.000It is either one of the biggest computer screw-ups ever, and it would involve Microsoft's program, which is a pretty... This particular program, which is a Microsoft Access program that generates automatic audit logs.
01:14:10.000While it may be said to have security problems, nobody said that it can't generate an audit log.
01:14:17.000We had a 168 page audit log spanning 120 days and by coincidence the Microsoft Bulletproof program used by Diebold Election Systems just happened to purge three hours during the most critical point on election night.
01:14:34.000So you can either look at that as an amazing coincidence where a software program melted down from Microsoft or you can say somebody probably went in and purged those three hours which happened to be One page of 168 at the most critical time.
01:14:51.000Now, we have the corresponding documents to show absolutely that the audit entries should have been there.
01:15:00.000We know some of the things that should have been generated because we have the corresponding documents.
01:15:18.000And then in addition to that, oh it gets better, we figured out, it took us 45 minutes, we figured out how to get remote access to the King County Central Tabulator that counts a million votes.
01:15:33.000And what that means is I can sit in my living room, and if I choose to commit a felony, I can sit in my living room and dial in and control their computer.
01:15:44.000It doesn't, actually a 9th grader could do it.
01:15:47.000It requires no password and no username, but you do need to know a certain number, which they insist is kept absolutely confidential.
01:15:55.000Well, do you know on my public records request, they accidentally put the secret number in some trouble report, where they were having a hard time using their modem, and people were saying, I can't make my modem work, and so they wrote down, well try this number, and if that doesn't work, try this, and they gave away the secret code.
01:16:15.000And then they accidentally gave them to me in the public records request.
01:16:20.000I mean, what we have is a system that you can go into with remote access where they're obviously not understanding the importance of at least keeping the secret code secret.
01:16:35.000We were right in the process of putting the videotape and a copy of the tampered audit log up when, lo and behold, our site disappeared.
01:16:45.000Incredible Bev, and some of the other developments around the country, all over the place, missing ballots, 58,000 in Florida, voting machines crashing every time they test them or turn them on.
01:17:00.000Can you chronicle some of the stuff that's been happening?
01:17:03.000Oh yeah, and you have ballots that are missing in sufficient quantities to flip the election.
01:17:09.000I guess, you know, and I watched this 60-minute show last night, which was a complete pablum.
01:17:14.000It was like something that wasn't even new news.
01:17:16.000I don't understand what they were doing, you know.
01:17:19.000But the situation on this, we have this election official from Los Angeles County, which by the way has 7 million voters, and, you know, she's saying these election officials don't understand their own jobs.
01:17:30.000What she is saying is, well, It's a problem if you do an audit and the numbers don't match.
01:17:37.000So what we did was we created a machine that makes the numbers always match.
01:17:47.000They have a document from here in King County where he says, well, they want us to audit, you know, 16%, but sometimes the numbers don't match.
01:17:55.000And if we audited 16%, we would have a complete meltdown.
01:17:59.000So they're admitting it doesn't work by design, so they're saying that's why you can't audit or have a trial.
01:18:05.000They just hide the whole thing in plain view that it is a fraud and just say, so what?
01:18:12.000They've admitted that the audits don't check out.
01:18:15.000Therefore, we shouldn't do them as their solution.
01:18:18.000And I gotta say, you know, these people that make these ridiculous statements, we gotta go back to the campaign we had going last spring, gotta be replaced.
01:18:26.000I mean, these are our election officials, but they don't understand a simple thing like, if the numbers don't match in the vote, you better figure out why.
01:18:34.000You know, they're saying, well, since they sometimes don't match, if we checked them all, it would melt us down, so let's not check.
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01:22:52.000I was talking to Beth Harris during the break, and she was talking about not only was there a server hack when they brought up this new clear election fraud material, But the home computer of a separate person doing separate web work for them on the same piece of information was hacked simultaneously.
01:23:22.000And Bev, tell folks who has put in the electronic voting machines in Seattle where this new development has come out.
01:23:32.000Well that would be Diebold Election Systems, are we surprised?
01:23:36.000They're kind of the king daddy of all this.
01:23:39.000Well, they seem to be showing up like a bad penny, don't they?
01:23:43.000Just about everywhere there's a problem.
01:23:45.000I know the other companies do have problems as well, but this one just doesn't look good, frankly.
01:23:53.000Well, you know, it's a problem like robbing a bank's a problem.
01:23:56.000It'd be like if somebody robbed a bank and we said, oh, he had a problem.
01:23:59.000I don't think it's a problem for them what's happening with their machines.
01:24:03.000They've been designed like this to be quite easily manipulated.
01:24:07.000They have definitely, this is designed in.
01:24:10.000The remote access is definitely designed in.
01:24:12.000There's no way they could not have known.
01:24:15.000They actually bought a piece of hardware and installed it in their system.
01:24:19.000With this particular piece of hardware, you can't even undo the configuration that leaves the holes wide open for remote access.
01:24:26.000But didn't they say, like a year ago, or was one of the companies, said, well that was accidental?
01:24:30.000Like, we accidentally engineer machines and add new parts and just accidentally do this.
01:24:34.000Was that them, or who was that that said that?
01:24:41.000You know, we accidentally did this, and they also always say, oh, we fixed it, but they didn't.
01:24:46.000You know, and it's clear they didn't, because we get that information in Freedom of Information requests.
01:24:51.000Well, if that's the case, Bev, why don't we see, like, Volkswagen's and Empire State's buildings being magically blown together in the Sahara Desert?
01:25:01.000If things just accidentally fall, you know, machines accidentally are built with wireless modems hooked to them.
01:26:06.000And I seem to be good at asking questions.
01:26:08.000Since this happened, I've gotten cease and desist orders from two different voting machine companies.
01:26:15.000I've been interviewed by the Secret Service five times.
01:26:18.000And, you know, it's getting kind of ridiculous because all I'm trying to do is find out how our vote is counted.
01:26:25.000Well, you've been very, very effective.
01:26:29.000And their whole system is in trouble because of you and many others now, Bev.
01:26:34.000Well, gosh, I think so, but you know what?
01:26:37.000It's amazing, and isn't that so exciting in a way?
01:26:41.000Because one person can actually make things happen.
01:26:43.000That's something I really learned from this.
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01:27:09.000I don't necessarily say all our cool plans on the air, because why tip our hands?
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01:27:28.000What does the Secret Service say to you when they drop by for their visits?
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01:32:19.000I know we haven't taken any calls yet today because we're now with our third guest.
01:32:24.000Because, you know, all these subjects are so important from race-specific bioweapons And we had the Head of Ethics and Science for the British Medical Association on.
01:32:33.000And then we talked to Paul Watson about this Philadelphia Daily News article.
01:32:39.000The black boxes were not destroyed in the World Trade Centers.
01:32:44.000And now the firefighters and emergency workers have gone public and said this.
01:32:56.000About our election, and there's not really words to describe the level of fraud we're talking about.
01:33:01.000I mean, just on her website every day they probably post a dozen new articles, I mean every day, about new election fraud around the country.
01:33:10.000People going public, election officials admitting it, employees of these companies quitting.
01:33:17.000Catching the companies manipulating votes as they take place from California to New York.
01:33:21.000Here in Austin, Texas, you go in to vote on the hard inner civic machines.
01:33:26.000And you think you're voting a straight Democratic ticket, but really it's for George Bush and Cheney if you don't read the fine print on a page below that.
01:33:48.000And, uh, Bev Harris, you were talking about a solution to this.
01:33:51.000Yeah, how can they declare at 7 o'clock central in every election who the winner is from some place called Voter News Services that since we exposed it, uh, they've changed the name.
01:34:01.000Uh, you know, they caught them in fraud back then, and then now they're gonna announce again at 7, 8 o'clock at night who the projected winner is hours before polls even close in, you know, a dozen states.
01:34:15.000And before everything's been tabulated, before we see how much fraud went on, how many scams went on, what's your idea to kind of short-circuit what they're doing?
01:34:25.000Well, one of the things we've got to do is get candidates to understand that to take back the system, do not concede on election night.
01:34:36.000And that makes the statement that we don't quite trust the data, so let's wait until all the facts come in.
01:34:42.000There's nothing wrong, nothing bad is going to happen because they don't certify the election for at least 10 days, so nothing terrible is going to happen if you don't.
01:34:49.000And let me give you some factual reasons why they should not concede.
01:34:53.000This election is going to have more provisional ballots, that's a special type of ballot, than we've ever had in the history of the United States.
01:35:00.000The provisionals are never used for media projections.
01:36:25.000You know, only 30% for and 67% against and Uh, most of the precincts reporting, already half the votes have been counted, it was like 10 o'clock at night, and then all of a sudden I look back up, because I've been writing down notes, and it had flipped!
01:36:43.000And again, I was watching Channel 7, that's just the city channel, just a camera on the computer screen, and then, you know, the news never noticed that, but I was watching the actual computer, and was looking up, following the numbers, covering the election, and it flipped!
01:36:59.000And then everybody pointed it out, and they said, well, let's just ignore this.
01:37:08.000Well, you know, the thing is, another thing that people can do on our cleanup crew, they can do it from home in their living room, understand, is to capture the screenshot of the county website when it's coming up with its interim totals.
01:37:22.000Because we're finding counties where the totals are going down.
01:37:25.000That is impossible on the voting machines.
01:37:44.000You turn over to the news, uh, they were reporting, you know, something completely different.
01:37:48.000And also, when we found one of these deteriorating totals in Arizona, we went to talk to the county elections official, and he said, well, you got that off of the CNN news site, so that must be their problem.
01:38:01.000So you want to rule out these excuses and get the totals right off the county's website, because I can tell you those come directly from the voting machine.
01:38:14.000I mean, has there ever been a case where there aren't, quote, problems?
01:38:17.000I mean, Palm Beach, they turned them on two weeks ago, and the whole thing just crashes.
01:38:23.000Well, you know, some of this is common sense.
01:38:26.000They're using new versions of software and machines that have never before been in use for anything with this kind of volume.
01:38:33.000Now, if you're a bank and you say, we're only going to beta test our ATM machines with 10% of what they're actually going to have to do on some mission-critical day, you know, the day before Christmas, well, obviously you're going to have a lot of failures if you use a brand new software system that's never been tested at that kind of volume on the most critical day of the year.
01:38:53.000But that's what they're doing this fall.
01:38:55.000They're trying new things on a mission critical day.
01:39:47.000Talk about no transparency, and I would say the way that Colorado is handling it, it seems likely that there is going to be tampering with the provisional ballots because they seem to be doing particularly secretive and opaque things and no accounting for all these provisional ballots.
01:40:04.000Now again, for those, we're talking about early voting or votes from troops overseas.
01:40:09.000No, actually, those are something new.
01:40:12.000Those are when you go to a polling place and they say, gee, we can't find you on the voter roll.
01:40:17.000We'll give you a provisional, and you vote, and then we'll check later on if your vote can be counted or not.
01:40:23.000But the apples and oranges semantically, what I'm saying is that all the votes that are, most people I know went and voted early because they believe that, because it's a paper ballot, that somehow circumvents this.
01:40:37.000Still, it's the same people from the same system entering your data, is that not correct?
01:40:43.000You know, it doesn't matter how you get your vote in there, it's all going to end up in one place.
01:40:48.000The last stop on the bus is the central tabulator, and it's going to collect together everything, including paper absentee ballots, touch screen votes, provisionals, everything goes in there.
01:40:58.000Bev, are you predicting that we're not going to know who the President is on November 3rd?
01:41:05.000Well, we're not going to know who the president is because the machines aren't auditable.
01:41:25.000Because the machines are so fallible, we know that they have miscounted and flipped things.
01:41:32.000How about Again, consecrate that by saying we're not going to count this until we've at least checked a couple of audit things like how many people voted versus how many votes showed up.
01:43:01.000Then I was saying that on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com we also post a lot of these articles.
01:43:08.000But what happens is you have election fraud news from a city here, a county there, but it never makes it out of the local paper to the national news.
01:43:16.000What sites like BlackBoxVoting.org does Uh, is, uh, you are able to take all that and show people the big picture and break through that censorship of the national media.
01:43:29.000And what we will have going this election is great.
01:43:32.000It is a live self-serve reporting function where you can go and you can be in, um, One of these, you know, Podunk County in specific, if there is such a thing, and you can go into your particular county and enter your particular situation so that we're going to have a complete nationwide log that you can self-serve, enter your thing, and you'll see it appear online immediately.
01:43:56.000BlackBoxVoting.org and I hope to try to set you back up for election day to track the latest developments and then obviously in the days after the election you're doing just a fabulous job.
01:44:08.000And folks can get your book, can't they?
01:44:46.000I mean, you heard her talk about Major cities, Los Angeles, they say, well, when we audit we show massive problems, so we just won't do audits anymore.
01:45:32.000We're gonna send the troops overseas, and they're gonna breathe a plea of uranium, and we're not gonna get them treated when they come back here and die!
01:45:39.000We don't care how many newspapers and how many reports and how many scientists show they're dying, we're not gonna treat them!
01:45:47.000And we're gonna give you lots of vaccines, and we're gonna make it the law, and we're gonna put lots of mercury in it, and we're gonna tell you it's nutritious for ya!
01:45:55.000And we're gonna ship the narcotics in.
01:45:57.000And then when your kids use it, we're gonna put them in the private prisons that we, the drug dealers, own.
01:46:41.000One of the things I wanted to point out is the Libertarians are talking, and I went to several of their meetings and saw their book, They have no God, basically.
01:46:50.000And I have maybe a dozen constitutions, and most of them have gotten rid of the Declaration of Independence.
01:46:57.000Well, I'm voting for Michael Perdutka, but I don't want to bash the Libertarians.
01:47:03.000They have a very wide spectrum of Libertarian members, and certainly you can find what you'd call kind of liberal Libertarians, or you can find extremely conservative Libertarians.
01:47:14.000Well, I'm talking about the book that's put out by the party and all the party information.
01:47:38.000We've become a degenerate, arrogant, decadent, soft, A babyish population that have now been enslaved, and it's just going to get worse, until we stand up and start saying, no way!
01:47:53.000And if we have a King James Bible, we will find governments as a spiritual gift in 1 Corinthians 12, 28.
01:48:00.000And then he's talking about worshiping the Creator versus the creation in Romans 1, 25.
01:48:08.000One pastor had an idea for Project Listen where we just listen to the Bible in these traffic jams and everything else and learn the roots of our freedom.
01:48:18.000Well, I personally own the Old and New Testament on tape and listen to the Bible I think twice now in all these long road trips I go on over the years.
01:48:27.000I think I'll pull that out of storage.
01:48:28.000I think it's in my attic and listen to it again.
01:48:53.000You know, you had your guest on there about voting.
01:48:54.000They announced on ABC News two days ago that they did one of those stupid polls, as they always do, and they said the error margin is 3%, but now they're saying, well, it's going to be bigger because they're having this unusually large turnout, unlike in the 2000 election.
01:49:11.000Now they're saying all these people are coming out of the woodwork and they're going to vote.
01:49:17.000Yeah, we knew this was going to happen, and that's why, again folks, John Kerry will really win the election, but it will be given to George W. Bush.
01:49:27.000Yeah, isn't it ironic too, Alex, that they said again, I read the newspaper, Chicago Sun-Times, the other day, that it's so close to calling Florida again.
01:49:35.000Hey, I'll tell you what, stay there, we'll talk about it.
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01:53:33.000I'll tell you right now, folks, if I didn't know the devil, I don't know what is.
01:53:36.000If your guts, if your inner compass doesn't tell you... I mean, if you can't just feel God's rage over the things that are happening, there's something wrong with you, folks.
01:56:40.000I mean, look, folks, if I was in my backyard, worshiping Moloch, And then I was a local preacher, and there was a video out, and it was admitted that I went there, and I was part of this.
01:56:51.000Folks, the congregation would leave in 10 seconds.
01:58:14.000Channel cast on the internet at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv and on Global Shortwave during the day and at night from 9 to midnight and of course 11 to 2 during the day and attention WWCR our wonderful shortwave provider two weeks ago they sent me a fax telling me of the new frequency during the day 9.985 more than two weeks ago and I just forgot about it and
01:58:39.000Do not plug it in the first few hours of the show the last few days where we have a lot of listeners and just keep forgetting.
01:58:46.000And so I'm going to ask WWCR tomorrow and for the rest of the day, if you can, just drop it in over me talking.
01:58:54.000Now that I'm thinking about it and we need to get the word out to everybody because we'll get like a thousand phone calls or so on Monday.
01:59:51.000I haven't called them to find out why, but I'm sure it's a good reason.
01:59:53.0009.985, 9.985, 9.985 But again, most people tune in for 10-20 minutes And we're going to miss that And we're going to pay the piper on Monday We're going to take a lot of calls, get into a ton of vital news this hour, more on firefighters and emergency workers, saying, hey, we found three of the four black boxes from 9-11 at the World Trade Center, and you're covering it up.
02:00:19.000This is out of the Philadelphia Daily News.
02:00:21.000In fact, I want to tell my producer right now, let's get the writer William Bunch on if we can tomorrow.
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02:06:23.000They're trying to continue this extremely dangerous practice.
02:06:27.000We're about to be talking to Alex Vitale.
02:06:30.000He is a sociology professor at Brooklyn College who studies political behavior and political protest.
02:06:37.000He argues that the type of draconian abuse of protesters across the political spectrum Right now, it hasn't been seen since the Vietnam era.
02:06:46.000I'd say it's even worse than it was back then because of the widespread nature of it.
02:06:51.000But nicely meshing with this subject, George just called in from Illinois where one of his friends from his church had a sign for Alan Keyes for his election and kind of a pun on the guy he's running against, his opponent.
02:07:10.000him abominable, which is your right to do that, meaning horrible or blasphemous, and the cop pulled her over, harassed her, and wrote her up somehow.
02:07:21.000I was trying to find out, George, how specifically was she, quote, written up?
02:07:25.000Because if this is really the case, I'd like to talk to her and get her in contact with the media.
02:07:29.000I mean, this is par for the course, but tell me about it.
02:07:35.000I don't know whether she was physically written up, but she was harassed, and he went through all the hoops, checking her totally out, what she basically...
02:07:45.000Okay, because earlier you said he wrote her up, and then you said she...
02:08:40.000And the other thing is, first of all, I've got many, many friends who have signs, including me too, and every morning people come up and they tear them down and it's ridiculous what's going on here.
02:09:38.000If you want to take over a street, you need a permit, but not to be on the sidewalk.
02:09:42.000Now, that's what the law really states.
02:09:45.000But we have cases of 500 Bush supporters and one guy wearing a no-blood royal and the Secret Service walks over and orders the cops to arrest him.
02:09:54.000And then they get charged with a serious crime and end up with six months in prison.
02:09:58.000The judge says, absolutely, you don't have any right.
02:10:32.000I agree with you that things are getting really bad.
02:10:35.000The police are trying to declare these new unconstitutional powers and use them, but not just with protest, but this atmosphere after 9-11 is being used to ratchet up the police state across the board.
02:10:48.000Well, I think we're in a bad situation here, where there's basically a growing intolerance, and I think it is tied to 9-11, a growing intolerance of anything that smacks of being disorderly in any way.
02:11:01.000I think so much of the fear that was evoked from 9-11 has resulted in people being averse to anything that could be interpreted as disorderly or frightening, and that this is, in fact, going so far that it's undermining our sort of basic democratic values.
02:11:21.000Well, I agree with you, and you study this.
02:11:24.000I mean, from your studies, have you seen this to be a kind of a ratcheting up, an incremental development, or has it really been just in the last three years that we've seen the main acceleration of this?
02:11:36.000Well, it started really in 1999 with the big anti-WTO, anti-globalization protests.
02:11:44.000As the protests became better organized and more successful, the police have become more repressive, but I think It really then went to a whole new level after 9-11 where police departments are telling people they have to have a permit for anything and then not giving them the permits and then arresting people for peacefully gathering on sidewalks for holding signs and these kinds of things.
02:12:06.000Well in Seattle I actually made a video about that police state to the takeover and we have the local newscast amateur video police admitting that there were these 50 thugs who were then housed in a government building
02:12:19.000and who really were working for the government, they burned trash cans, hit cops, the cops were told to take it, then they retired to a government building, and the cops then attacked old ladies, medics, you name it, and then they used that video, not my video, but the video that was shot there by the cops, as a training manual to scare police all over the country, then they federally issued all these Darth Vader riot gear outfits, the zero tolerance, and then I was in New York,
02:12:47.000And saw American spectator reporters being arrested, conservatives in suits, libertarian writers, AP writers.
02:12:54.000We had them take our film, take our cameras, detain us.
02:12:59.000We'd be five miles from MSG, Madison Square Garden, have cops run over and cuss at us and say, turn your cameras off.
02:13:05.000It was just an arrogant strutting of letting us know that we're the little people.
02:13:10.000Yeah, there were a lot of problems in New York with the harassment of the media and failure to abide by press credentials and trying to prevent people from taking photographs or videotape and it's also certainly true that after Seattle there was a concerted effort to sort of paramilitarize the police with a lot of high-tech, very expensive weaponry and body armor and of course that poor woman who was killed in Boston after they
02:13:38.000Made it to the World Series was killed by one of these high-tech so-called less lethal weapons and I think this is a very disturbing trend as well.
02:13:46.000Well I got video from Portland and Seattle and D.C.
02:13:53.000where these rubber bullets put huge giant bleeding holes in people and I've talked to police and others and I've even seen manuals You're not supposed to shoot these from any closer than 50 feet away, because up closer they know full well they're lethal, but we've now got the photos of this cop that killed her 15 feet away.
02:14:12.000Yeah, and in most cases they're supposed to aim at people's legs, not at their faces.
02:14:20.000Well, I mean, this thing hit her hard enough to push her eyeball back into her brain.
02:14:24.000It's just terrible, and in Miami during the demonstrations against the Free Trade Area of the Americas, a well-known businessman in Miami was struck by one of these rubber projectiles and caused brain damage.
02:14:38.000And so I think they, you know, the weaponry had some legitimate uses, but once they have the weaponry, then they start finding new uses for it.
02:14:47.000They overstep the intended use of these things and can just lead to terrible abuses.
02:14:54.000Well, yeah, when they were first developed, it's if somebody's running at you with a butcher knife and you don't want to kill them, or they're threatening to kill themselves, you shoot them with a taser or a beanbag gun.
02:15:04.000But, you know... Yeah, and, you know, in riot situations, they can be useful in trying to create some distance between a line of police and an angry mob, so that you don't get into a kind of hand-to-hand combat situation.
02:15:19.000But then to go ahead and just use them at close range on people because you don't like what they're saying is where we're getting into a real problem.
02:15:27.000Well, absolutely, but... I mean, I've got the video from around the country.
02:15:33.000One person does something wrong, or somebody walks out in the street where they're not supposed to, and so the police go, open fire, and then just start in long lines shooting into an innocent crowd.
02:15:47.000You had people sort of passively sitting on the ground.
02:15:51.000They may have been engaged in a violation of the traffic laws, but the police, rather than issuing them a summons or placing them in custody, just open up with the pepper spray and the rubber bullets, and quite indiscriminately, so that if you're just
02:16:08.000Well, sir, I have video of old women, young women, they run up, knock a woman off a bike, she falls to the ground and they start stomping her with nothing but pure pleasure.
02:16:26.000Unlike the 1960s anti-war demonstrations, the police use of violence tends to be more organized, rather than the kind of police riots that we sometimes saw, where you had supervisors chasing after their officers, trying to get them back into line.
02:16:43.000You got out of control stuff in the 60s, now it's mechanized, you know, they march in organized.
02:16:48.000I use the term command and control policing to describe this, because it's highly organized, military hierarchical.
02:16:56.000It's militarized, but how do you get cops in masks to go out and beat women?
02:17:02.000Well, part of it is these kinds of demonizing press campaigns that you alluded to after Seattle, where they go around accusing everyone who's a demonstrator of being an anarchist or a terrorist.
02:17:13.000And so they kind of lay the groundwork for saying that these people aren't, you know, legitimate people, they're not real Americans, that anything that happens to them, they deserve.
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02:22:35.000Oh, NYC-Justice.org, and he's in this MSNBC article, and if he wants to write shotgun with us in the next segment, he can, and we'll take more of your calls and cover some other news, but we were talking during the break about agent provocateurs in these different organizations, and talk about that some.
02:22:52.000Well, you know, there's a long history of that in the United States, going back to the early red scares in the early part of the last century but there is a growing use of undercover and plainclothes police officers at these demonstrations who from time to time will foment some sort of altercation in the demonstration that then you know provides cover for the uniformed police to come in and make mass arrests or to use force against people and
02:23:22.000We saw some cases like that here in New York during the Republican National Convention and we've seen footage from other cities at some of these large demonstrations and it's a sign that we're returning to the age of the COINTELPRO Operations where the FBI had thousands of agents infiltrating all kinds of political and religious groups.
02:23:45.000I was about to say, this is an intelligence operation, and then now they're telling us, ooh, we're gonna have a domestic CIA.
02:23:55.000I mean, it's one thing to be monitoring the Internet, to keep track of people's public statements.
02:24:01.000It's another thing to send people in undercover to when there's no illegal activity underway, and then the third and most troubling level is when you're actually trying to actively destabilize these groups by disinformation.
02:24:15.000Well, how many millions of dollars were used from Iraq money, military money, in Miami?
02:24:24.000Tens of millions of dollars were spent for this massive security operation to prevent some senior citizens and union members from holding a rally.
02:24:32.000And I interviewed 87-year-old World War II vets and union leaders, and even a federal judge got beat up, who would be marched down an alley and the cops would cuss at them and go, you pieces of filth, and beat them!
02:24:53.000I think that it really is incumbent upon people to ask these tough questions about what We want the role of the police to be in relationship to the First Amendment, and we have to figure out some concrete ways to take action about that.
02:25:10.000How did they get, say, in Miami with 8,000 cops out there or 41,000 in New York, And New York, by the way, wasn't as bad as some places we've been and some things we've seen, I have to be honest.
02:25:22.000But places like Miami or Portland or wherever.
02:25:25.000I mean, Portland, I wasn't there, but I've got amateur video and local newscast video and interviewed people who were there and they admit it.
02:25:31.000They encircled a crowd of 4,000 or 6,000 and then they blocked off all their escape routes at 3 o'clock and 4 o'clock in the afternoon and started pepper spraying and rubber bulleting people and ran up and sprayed babies in baby carriages and People would say, why my baby?
02:25:45.000And they'd say, don't bring a baby bleep bleep.
02:25:48.000I mean, how in the world did they get them to turn into such psychopaths?
02:25:51.000Well, and during the Bush inauguration, we have footage of undercover police officers wading into crowds, just indiscriminately pepper spraying people.
02:26:02.000To try and create chaos to justify the police coming in with batons, etc.
02:26:15.000Here in New York, before the Republican National Convention, there were several news stories that named high-ranking police sources, police intelligence officials, and even said, we reviewed police intelligence files to Confirm that, you know, hundreds of anarchists are coming here to commit violence, etc.
02:26:35.000And of course, there was no violence here during the Republican National Convention.
02:26:40.000And one of the things that's troubled me most about that is that both that the police are keeping these intelligence files and that they're sharing them with the media.
02:26:50.000to serve their own political purposes.
02:26:52.000Well, I saw something on New York 1 in my hotel room at, you know, 2 a.m.
02:26:55.000when I got home, and it shows the cops running over people with mopeds for no reason, and then when somebody got up and punched a cop back, that was shown locally, but then on national news, look at this evil guy, he just punched a cop for no reason!
02:27:10.000Yeah, I actually am the person who shot some of that footage.
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02:31:36.000It was a squad of about a dozen officers, and what happened was there was a legal march taking place, and the police ran a line of metal barricades right through the middle of the march without any warning or explanation, and people thought they were being arrested.
02:31:59.000Just the night before a number of people have been arrested that way.
02:32:02.000And so they thought they were being arrested.
02:32:04.000They linked arms and the police attacked them with these unmarked, un-uniformed moped officers who just rode right into the crowd, rode over people, knocked people down.
02:32:17.000And one of them just kept going into the middle of the crowd and knocking people over and I guess eventually uh... some people not he was never identifying he never identified himself as a police officer he's wearing a New York Yankees shirt and a black helmet and some people pulled him off his motor scooter and then punched him and kicked him another person a single person then uh... kicked him while he was on the ground
02:32:46.000And, uh, that, that poor-y person, you know, is someone who was actually not connected to the demonstration and had a history of some, uh, mental problems.
02:32:57.000The other people in the crowd did pull the guy from the scooter, and then I guess this guy... But let me ask folks a question.
02:33:04.000If you're out with your wife, okay, and a lot of people there were tourists, and people start running over you with vehicles, would you not pull them off of it, especially if they were in plain clothes?
02:33:15.000But even if a cop was doing it, wearing a giant police uniform, he should be pulled from the vehicle!
02:33:21.000Well, certainly you have an argument about self-defense in a situation like that.
02:33:24.000Even a uniformed police officer can use illegal violence against you.
02:33:47.000You know, I think it's almost like... Since then, the police department has quit using those officers.
02:33:52.000I think even they realized that this was putting their own officers in jeopardy as well as the public.
02:33:58.000Well, you know, by saying New York was, quote, better than other cities, at least they didn't have, you know, a thousand cops open fire with rubber bullets for absolutely no reason like other cities.
02:34:07.000But they were worse when it came to arresting people for having a video camera.
02:34:11.000Just a different, it was a different strategy.
02:34:13.000In New York, the objective was two-fold.
02:34:15.000One was to not have images of violence on the nightly news, and they were mostly successful at that.
02:34:22.000And the other was to not allow any disruptions.
02:34:25.000And so what they decided was that they would just arrest people before they had a chance to do anything disruptive.
02:34:37.000We couldn't ever get any independent confirmation that this was a coordinated plan in writing.
02:34:45.000But there was clearly a decision made at the highest levels of the department to go out there and arrest groups as they were gathering before they even began their protests.
02:34:56.000Well, I was at a Ground Zero protest with just a few thousand people and I stayed a couple hundred yards away because I saw the police massing, rounding them up.
02:35:04.000Yeah, they just arrested 227 people at that demonstration and the district attorney after looking at the videotapes dropped the charges against all of them because it was clear they weren't doing anything illegal.
02:35:15.000Exactly, so they just scooped up a portion of these thousands of people randomly with the orange freedom fencing as they call it.
02:36:28.000But I mean, Professor, in closing here, where did this... I know you said the mentality, the demonization, yeah, but how did they get cops en masse?
02:36:37.000I mean, I know a lot of... I think it's a just following orders kind of situation, where you take a lot of young officers, there are a lot of rookies out at these demonstrations, and the high-ranking officers just tell them what to do.
02:36:51.000Do you think we're going to see massive riots if the election is contested November 3rd?
02:36:55.000Well, I think we'll certainly see millions of people out on the streets.
02:36:59.000Whether or not there will be violence or property destruction, I couldn't hardly say.
02:37:03.000But I think certainly if Bush wins under questionable circumstances, there will be widespread public protest.
02:37:12.000And then you'll have provocateurs, a few hotheads that are real.
02:37:18.000That is all possible, but we also don't want to be in the business of aiding the police and intimidating people from coming out on the streets when they feel they ought to.
02:37:29.000So while it's true that things are getting worse, There's still space out there for people to be able to... Well, that's an even greater reason for us to go out and march and demonstrate.
02:38:18.000A picture of, they say, you know, violent demonstrators, and then if you look at the actual videotape, it's the police beating demonstrators.
02:38:38.000Wow, we had Bev Harris, we had Paul Watson, we had the head of ethics and science for the British Medical Association.
02:38:46.000And then we have this professor on today.
02:38:48.000Man, my producer is just going wild out here.
02:38:51.000We'll go to Paul and Roger and others here in a few minutes.
02:38:53.000Let me just run over some basic news in a Blitzkrieg fashion right now.
02:38:59.000Again, on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com we have all these articles posted.
02:39:04.000Firefighters, emergency workers, and then police are backing them up so that they found three of the four black boxes in good condition, still with the outside orange and yellow paint on them.
02:39:16.000And took them out of the records of the World Trade Center, Philadelphia Daily News, and they've been told to shut up about this, but they told you that all those were destroyed.
02:39:24.000Now, if it's not the hijackers doing this, like they say, why don't you release that?
02:39:29.000Haven't had time to produce the fake tape yet?
02:40:43.000ABC News is now reporting on this, by the way.
02:40:50.000One ABC source who demanded anonymity said Thursday morning the network was struggling to find a correct journalistic balance.
02:40:58.000Of course, the Cornell Psychology Department has shown conclusively that This gets people to go along with the police state, and it boosts approval ratings for all this.
02:41:07.000I mean, that's common sense, but the science shows it.
02:41:12.000Continuing, seven homeschoolers, dads thrown into jail, families fined for refusing to send children to government institutions.
02:41:25.000Actually, Franco did, but Hitler picked up on it.
02:41:29.000Hitler took almost a million children from homes of Parents who weren't politically correct.
02:41:35.000And now our government does that, but they're still doing it in Germany.
02:41:38.000I mean, they have admitted cases where a family goes to have their fifth child and the German CPS workers come and just... And the high court says release them and they say, we don't care.
02:41:47.000And they don't even allege anything in Germany.
02:41:51.000Seven homeschooling fathers in Germany spent several days in jail for refusing to pay fines that were imposed on them for failing to send their children to government schools.
02:42:01.000The fathers were part of the Twelve Tribes community in the Klosersheimrennen.
02:42:06.000Germany were forced to spend between six and sixteen days in what the group's website translates as a coercive jail.
02:42:16.000It just shows the nice Family's on the front.
02:42:19.000It's just Christian groups, of course.
02:42:21.000According to the group's website, which includes the chronology of its battle with the government, the men initially refused to go to jail.
02:42:27.000The police then picked them up and brought them to a lock-up in Augsburg, Bavaria.
02:42:33.000On October 18th, the first father was released from custody on Sunday.
02:42:37.000The authorities want to bend the parents' will so that they will pay these fines, stop homeschooling their children, and instead send them to public schools.
02:42:44.000The mothers, three have small nursing children, are supposed to go to jail later, states the R.I.P.' 's website.
02:43:05.000uh... said the uh... released homeschoolers dad and see they can't run here like a lot of german and dutch immigrants did it first two hundred and fifty three hundred years ago cause there's nowhere to run now illinois and california have tried to pass similar laws and people of mass have just said forget it and now they're having terror drills from michigan to texas over the last uh... four years that we've known of it's in my film road to tyranny but just came out mainstream news a few weeks ago uh... that in mass they're training them that uh...
02:43:35.000Christian homeschoolers are terrorists.
02:43:37.000We've now gotten documents that they're saying Orthodox Jews homeschooling.
02:44:20.000And if it was just for them, it would be bad enough.
02:44:22.000It is for Christians And yes, to a greater degree in Israel now, not just in the U.S., they're targeting in Israel Orthodox Jews, the secular Jews are.
02:44:33.000So it's the same thing whether it's Israel or Germany or England or the U.S.
02:44:38.000It's just targeting people that do not want to be part of your system.
02:44:42.000Who want children that are intelligent and who the family educates, not you!
02:44:59.000There's quite a few, so Germany's after all those countries.
02:45:03.000But the worst of the Western world, I should add.
02:45:06.000Bush website bars overseas visitors, and they're saying it's because somebody hacked attack them from overseas, so now they're blocking all foreign visitors.
02:46:14.000Hey, you know, I'm calling, I went to meet the candidates tonight at my local church the other night.
02:46:21.000And no candidates showed, which was pretty ironic, but only about 30 people from the Church of a Thousand Congregations showed up as well.
02:46:30.000But we did have a representative from the Christian Coalition there, and I brought up the fact that both members of... both Terry and Bush are Skull and Bones members, and he said, yeah, but Bush is a born-again Christian, and he ended up emailing me that famous letter that Bush wrote, Saying how, you know, he's turned his ways.
02:47:18.000Right now, I'm driving to New Jersey to get my car out of in-town because the insurance company notified New York State that my car was going to... my insurance was going to lapse, which it never did, but they assumed that it did.
02:47:33.000So, rather than notify New York State that my car insurance didn't lapse, They suspended my registration and insurance.
02:47:42.000And that's what all these databases with their national ID card.
02:47:45.000It'll be the Caps 2 system of the airports times 100.
02:47:48.000And it's just all these little things you've got to find and see.
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02:51:58.000In a leap into the abyss of the surveillance society, Chicago authorities are installing a web of spy cameras linked to a sophisticated new computer.
02:52:04.000Programs that will not only view everyone who appears on various streets, faces by the way, but also will alert police agents when anyone is acting suspicious.
02:52:16.000Wandering around aimlessly, lingering outside a building, pulling your car over to the shoulder of a highway, leaving a package in a doorway and other common acts as if you have done a thousand times.
02:52:26.000What we're doing is totally new concepts as the director of the Intrusive Technology is going to take us to a whole new level.
02:52:33.000I'll say these snooper vision cameras can zoom in on you and follow you from camera to camera recording your every move whether or not you're doing anything wrong.
02:52:42.000Faceless bureaucrats will sit in an undisclosed fortified building monitoring the screens and Dispatching armed police to accost lawyers, aimless wanderers, and other suspicious characters.
02:52:51.000Not only will the police place so-called smart cameras around town, but also in housing areas, in transportation.
02:52:57.000Yeah, Austin already has this, the buses, everything.
02:53:00.000And other city agencies, even street sweepers, making Chicagoans the most watched people in America.
02:53:07.000No, it's just because you looked at Chicago.
02:53:09.000Of course the authorities insist that this is for your own good, claiming we'll all be safer.
02:53:13.000Chicago's new surveillance director says, quote, the value we'll gain in public safety far outweighs any perception by the community that this is Big Brother who's watching.
02:53:23.000But wait a minute, it is Big Brother that's watching.
02:53:26.000Yet Chicago's mayor dismisses all of this pesky civil liberties, saying that after all, we're not inside your home or your business.
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02:54:14.000I finally got to court here last July and when I went through court, information from Cornell came out in the middle of court that verified my information but it was the pre-notes for the second report.
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02:54:29.000The second report, which was written from the first report, claimed that I had no milk equipment trouble.
02:54:33.000You mean the government's trying to run small people out of business and the judges and people are corrupt?
02:54:40.000In the interim of all this, the court case and everything else, I had to threaten and show them the law that I wanted a copy of that report that came up in the middle of trial.
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02:54:50.000Unfortunately, the show is going to end, so you have to finish up.