Alex Jones Show - November 24, 2004


20041124_Wed_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

171.45204

Word Count

30,267

Sentence Count

2,416

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

47


Summary

Big Brother and the mainstream media cover up the truth about government spying on us all. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.
00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.
00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000 All right, my friends. my friends.
00:00:43.000 I love you.
00:00:45.000 I tell you, it feels like Friday, doesn't it?
00:00:49.000 But it's not Friday.
00:00:51.000 It's Wednesday.
00:00:53.000 And it's going to be Turkey Day tomorrow.
00:00:55.000 And we've got a lot to be thankful for.
00:00:58.000 We've got our families and our health, many of us.
00:01:05.000 So many good things that are still left and in place concerning America.
00:01:11.000 But all of that, all of it, is being swept away as we speak.
00:01:17.000 You know, I came out on Monday and did the radical thing.
00:01:20.000 I called Ron Paul's office and I said, did that forced psychological screening pass?
00:01:29.000 Forced psychological testing of all children and adults?
00:01:33.000 Guidelines written by the drug companies, and I got a few calls on and off air, kind of denying that that even happened, because they hadn't seen it in the mainstream news.
00:01:50.000 And we wrote an article about it on Monday.
00:01:53.000 Well, now it's in the Associated Press, Newsmax, World Net Daily, Reuters.
00:02:00.000 Today it came out in a whole bunch of papers, so I mean, one guy, I was guest hosting another show, one guy called up and was just viciously mad.
00:02:10.000 He didn't want to go on air and he said, how dare you give out this info, that didn't pass!
00:02:16.000 The 9-11 bill didn't pass!
00:02:19.000 And I just said, the 9-11 bill is a separate piece of legislation.
00:02:25.000 That's Patriot Act 2, that's the expansion of Homeland Security, that's all of it.
00:02:33.000 That's the National ID Card.
00:02:34.000 They're going to have a special session for that.
00:02:36.000 Yes, by the grace of God, that was narrowly defeated just for now, because they couldn't all agree and people said no.
00:02:46.000 There's different pieces of legislation at the close of Congress, and yes, the new Freedom Initiative did indeed pass.
00:02:58.000 It did happen.
00:03:01.000 Right out of the Soviet Union.
00:03:03.000 Whether you're homeschooled, private schooled, public schooled, openly the drug companies wrote the guidelines to go from 15% of cuts on drugs to 50%.
00:03:14.000 50% will be on Prozac and Luvox and Ritalin and other deadly drugs.
00:03:21.000 And some of their own executives quit and left, some of the state officials quit and left, went public, released the documents six months ago and said here's the plan The drug companies have written the guidelines, and I morally can't be part of this.
00:03:37.000 And now it's all public.
00:03:39.000 American Medical Association says it's wonderful, we're all mentally ill.
00:03:43.000 The British Medical Association says it's horrible that it's right out of Soviet Russia.
00:03:49.000 But a bunch of articles about it.
00:03:52.000 And the schools are to be turned, even more so, into prison laboratories.
00:03:57.000 Training your child how to be a ward of the state, how to be a mental patient, how to be a prisoner, how to be a criminal, or how to be a preacher of ignorance who's not been taught how to read, write, and calculate.
00:04:12.000 And so I'm not trying to be negative.
00:04:14.000 I'm just giving you the news again.
00:04:15.000 Yes, it's really true, folks.
00:04:17.000 It really passed.
00:04:21.000 I know a lot of you don't want to believe that, and I don't want to believe it either.
00:04:25.000 But it did pass.
00:04:27.000 I mean, Ron Paul has never lied to me yet.
00:04:29.000 He told me this.
00:04:30.000 Jeff Dice, the Chief of Staff, told me this on Monday.
00:04:33.000 We had him on last Friday.
00:04:34.000 He said there was a good chance new freedom would pass.
00:04:37.000 And it did.
00:04:39.000 He had legislation trying to stop it.
00:04:42.000 And I'll tell you right now, I think you can call, 10 million of you can call Washington.
00:04:46.000 It might help.
00:04:47.000 But they're probably going to pass the National ID Card Patriot Act, too.
00:04:51.000 In December.
00:04:54.000 They got the machine guns, they got the black mask, and they're willing to use them.
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00:08:02.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:11.000 Hello, my friends.
00:08:26.000 Please.
00:08:27.000 We're going to have wide open phones today and we're scheduled to have G. Edward Griffin, the author of the best-selling book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, that really gives you the accurate history in novel form of what happened and how the Federal Reserve that rules over us was set up.
00:08:48.000 They'll also get into all the important news on this Wednesday edition.
00:08:59.000 Good old Thanksgiving coming up tomorrow, folks.
00:09:03.000 And what are you thankful for?
00:09:06.000 Are you thankful there's plenty of cheeseburgers?
00:09:10.000 Is that what freedom is for you?
00:09:13.000 Freedom living in a big house?
00:09:16.000 Or is freedom being free to not be a slave?
00:09:20.000 To not be face scanned and thumb scanned and be fondled by airport screeners and now they're going to have checkpoints on the road doing it.
00:09:29.000 Is freedom the power to not have your children taken from you twice a year to be forcibly, psychologically tested like they did in the Soviet Union?
00:09:40.000 Is freedom not having them put cancer viruses in your vaccines?
00:09:44.000 Is freedom having your government control your border?
00:09:52.000 We can talk about what Thanksgiving means to you as well today, Here's a headline.
00:09:59.000 National identity database to be created.
00:10:03.000 Another one.
00:10:05.000 Here.
00:10:07.000 We'll be going over Russian troops reported in Ukraine capital.
00:10:13.000 Kind of a breakdown happening there.
00:10:15.000 Security services.
00:10:17.000 Playdown terror plot.
00:10:19.000 Remember how over the weekend they saved London from hijack attacks.
00:10:25.000 And then always a week or two, a month later, usually a month later, oh actually they were government informants and it was never a threat.
00:10:32.000 It was a drill and the media picked up on it as if it was going to be a terror attack.
00:10:39.000 Russian troops reported in Ukraine capital.
00:10:45.000 Again, that's coming up as well as security services play down terror plot.
00:10:52.000 In London, turns out it isn't what they said it was.
00:10:55.000 And the headline in the register is, Suicide Pigs, get it when pigs fly, Suicide Pigs Fly to Support Blunkett's War on Terror, just magically when they're announcing national ID cards and everything else over there, this happens.
00:11:12.000 Actual details of the New Freedom Initiative passing, of course, from InfoWars.com, now picked up by WorldNet Daily, Planet, Associated Press, just a whole bunch of different websites have got it out there.
00:11:34.000 Congressman makes room for more foreigners for high-tech jobs, Associated Press.
00:11:41.000 The government's actually expanding the amount of legal high-tech workers they can bring in.
00:11:46.000 Of course, the Congressional Budget Office told us last year that the next five years the layoffs of high-tech would get seven times greater.
00:11:55.000 You think it's bad now?
00:11:58.000 You're all basically training replacements right now, so how can it get seven times worse?
00:12:02.000 Seven times greater?
00:12:03.000 I'm not trying to give you bad news.
00:12:05.000 I mean, don't worry.
00:12:06.000 You can go get a job as a cop or a prison guard or maybe as somebody filling pill bottles at an Eli Lilly plant for pills the public takes.
00:12:18.000 You can probably get a job with Homeland Security.
00:12:21.000 Most of the colleges are shifting over.
00:12:24.000 To large portions of their professors, and their curriculum, and their funding, and their accredited, tenured professors.
00:12:36.000 It's all shifting into Homeland Security.
00:12:41.000 Just a new economy, folks.
00:12:42.000 It's going to be great.
00:12:43.000 It's going to be wondrous.
00:12:47.000 Dr. Deagle, who we had on a few weeks ago, who's got more MDs and Letters behind his name than a phone book has really dropped major bombshells on us on this broadcast.
00:13:01.000 We put the transcript up.
00:13:03.000 I wish somebody would make a... We put the audio up.
00:13:05.000 I wish somebody would make a transcript of it.
00:13:08.000 To my sound out of it, folks, I worked too hard yesterday.
00:13:10.000 I did, like, eleven interviews.
00:13:14.000 I was grilled by Popular Mechanics' writer for an hour.
00:13:21.000 It was like an interrogation.
00:13:22.000 Then I was up until four in the morning on KOA in Denver and I shouldn't have done that.
00:13:27.000 I got about three hours sleep and I guess just on top of working that hard yesterday, my brain is gone.
00:13:33.000 As soon as this broadcast is over, I'm going and hitting the sack.
00:13:39.000 But going back to Dr. Deagle, Dr. Deagle, you called in today.
00:13:43.000 Good to have you calling in.
00:13:44.000 What's going on?
00:13:46.000 Well, Alex, I appreciate being able to talk.
00:13:49.000 This is pretty serious.
00:13:52.000 In a real firestorm with things happening so quickly, it's hard to imagine.
00:13:56.000 I know, I've been trying to counter it and there's no way.
00:13:58.000 It's like I've been... It's like I've literally been on the front lines now just for so many years and now the bombardments are massive.
00:14:08.000 Yeah, I just got a news article this morning from my Association of American Physicians out of Tucson and there's... Yeah, we got them coming on the broadcast.
00:14:17.000 And what's unbelievable Is that they passed this bill but they put in, they're going to try to put in a congressional modification to the bill so it needs parental consent.
00:14:29.000 This is, without a doubt, I think, I consider the most serious intrusion into liberty yet.
00:14:37.000 With the Goals 2000 in the schools, with them now trying to drug all the children, and they're actually taking children away.
00:14:43.000 I know as a physician I've seen it happen.
00:14:45.000 Oh, I see it in the local Austin paper once a week.
00:14:48.000 But meanwhile, some psychotic woman, they just had this hog demon up in North Texas cut her baby girl's arms off, and then call in.
00:14:57.000 I was in the voices of a demon.
00:14:59.000 I listened for the 911 call.
00:15:01.000 And why they put that out, I have no idea.
00:15:02.000 As long as they want to terrorize us.
00:15:05.000 She's going, I cut her arms off, hee hee hee.
00:15:08.000 They need to get a jury in there, and give her the death penalty immediately, and flush that woman down a garbage disposal.
00:15:16.000 Because I'm telling you something, but guess what?
00:15:18.000 She went into psychiatric help for depression, and she was on the drugs.
00:15:23.000 And I'm telling you, every woman that drowns her kids, every person that shoots a bunch of people, in every case I've seen, they're on these things, Doctor.
00:15:30.000 Absolutely.
00:15:31.000 I took care of the first young gentleman shot in Columbine.
00:15:34.000 Mark Taylor.
00:15:35.000 And Mark was, and I can mention his name because it's public knowledge, it's not private, he was the very first kid shot in Columbine by Dylan Klebold.
00:15:44.000 And those two kids, Klebold and Harris, were both on Prozac and it was a private settlement against Prozac because they were on these drugs when they committed those multiple murders.
00:15:56.000 Dr. Deagle, I haven't found a case where people aren't on them.
00:15:59.000 And again, for those who don't know, you go on them and you get more violent, you have more problems, Because if you're already unstable, these things put you into a mesmerized, waking, sleeping state.
00:16:10.000 Yeah, you're actually in a dream state.
00:16:11.000 And the American Association of Pediatrics actually came out last month and said these drugs have no proven efficacy under the age of 21, and in fact increase suicide risk.
00:16:23.000 And the bill comes out immediately afterward, they're going to shove these kids on drugs, Ritalin, which is chemically, as you say, absolutely no different from methamphetamine, And crack.
00:16:33.000 What do we want to have?
00:16:34.000 have crack kids.
00:16:35.000 And it burns out neurons, and we've got proof.
00:16:38.000 I've got friends at Sloan Kettering Research in New York and in neurology that have actually done research and have shown this causes motor disorders and premature Alzheimer's.
00:16:47.000 It causes Parkinson's disease in young adults.
00:16:49.000 Well, this is the craziness, though, is that they're going to stick a machine gun in our mouth.
00:16:54.000 I mean, that's what they do.
00:16:54.000 They send guys in black uniforms and ski masks and you say, no, you're not going to take my five-year-old and test him and claim they need to go on these drugs.
00:17:02.000 And then you hide out in your house and the SWAT team surrounds you, armored vehicles pull up.
00:17:07.000 I mean, folks, this is hell on earth!
00:17:09.000 I mean, I don't have words to describe it.
00:17:12.000 I've read it all, where it Swiss cheeses the brain and retards growth, and look!
00:17:18.000 They have no growth hormone.
00:17:19.000 These kids are many percentiles reduced in their height.
00:17:23.000 They've got changes in brain structure.
00:17:24.000 You can actually do, if they die of a traumatic accident, you can do an autopsy, an electron microscopy of their brain.
00:17:30.000 You can see even their synapses change within eight hours after going on these God help us!
00:17:35.000 reuptake inhibitor drugs or Ritalin.
00:17:38.000 Their receptors change in eight hours and the changes are still there one to two years later.
00:17:42.000 - God help us. - Yeah. - And again, folks, 15% of the children are now on these drugs.
00:17:52.000 And when one of the state board officials said, I'm not gonna be part of this in Pennsylvania six months ago, they released the internal documents This whole thing was written by seven drug companies.
00:18:03.000 The guidelines are written by drug companies and they brag, we're going to go from 15 to 50 percent.
00:18:09.000 We're going to force the children on it.
00:18:11.000 So half of you out there with kids, if they have their goal, you will be forced at machine gun point to pour poison into your children.
00:18:19.000 What they're doing now is they're saying your children are no longer your property, they're the chattel of the state.
00:18:25.000 Let me say it again, you will be forced at machine gun point, this is America, at machine gun point to literally put a acid into your child's brain, and doctor correct me if I'm wrong, that literally scrambles it.
00:18:41.000 Yes it does, and it does it actually within less than 24 hours, you can see these changes.
00:18:48.000 I'm a functional medicine doc, biochemist, and what we actually can do is measure in your urine your neurotransmitters if they're down, and they're down because of the toxic pollution in our environment, they're mercury in the vaccines, they're down because of too much sugar and refined foods, and if they drop, they're very simple to repair.
00:19:04.000 Your body just converts amino acids to neurotransmitters.
00:19:07.000 It's so simple, it's ridiculous.
00:19:09.000 You can verify with urine tests.
00:19:12.000 For them to give powerful drugs that fry these children's brains and If they stop the truck, they become totally screwed up.
00:19:18.000 Then they become either more violent, they can't sleep, their mood's all over the place, they start to become psychotic.
00:19:24.000 It's very, very crazy what's going on.
00:19:26.000 And I have to speak out, and our association is lockstep, 100% against this.
00:19:31.000 Unfortunately, the AMA is not.
00:19:34.000 Well, I'll tell you what, Dr. Nichols, sit here just a few more minutes with us.
00:19:37.000 On the other side, we'll get to everybody else's calls and a bunch of other news.
00:19:41.000 I'm Alex Jones, your host.
00:19:43.000 You can listen to our interview with Dr. Diegel, two hours long, in the audio section of PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:19:52.000 We'll be right back.
00:19:53.000 I mean, we're not joking, and I'll tell you how they're going to incrementally put in this new Freedom Initiative.
00:19:57.000 It's not going to happen overnight.
00:19:58.000 We'll be back.
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00:23:53.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:24:10.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:24:14.000 Coming up later, we have the head spokesperson, Katherine Searks, from American Physicians and Surgeons coming on in the third hour.
00:24:27.000 In the second hour, we have Well, somebody who's really done a great job exposing the private, fraudulent nature of the Federal Reserve, G. Edward Griffin.
00:24:38.000 There's so much other news.
00:24:41.000 You know, folks, picture a science fiction movie where they go around forcing half the children to take drugs.
00:24:49.000 Won't that be Brave New World?
00:24:53.000 Or a picture of the Nazis would have done that.
00:24:54.000 Oh, those Nazis, they took the kids away if you didn't put them on drugs that destroyed their mental capacity.
00:25:02.000 And see, stuff's gotten so crazy that CBS nationally, and we've aired this, they even aired it locally, said that mercury's actually good for your child's brain and mental performance.
00:25:10.000 I mean, you know, it's like saying, it's actually good to shoot yourself in the head with a .45 caliber handgun five or six times.
00:25:18.000 Of course, we're not saying that's good.
00:25:20.000 Please understand that's sarcasm.
00:25:23.000 But they're really saying mercury's good for you.
00:25:25.000 And this, look, they admit in the major studies, and Dr. William Deagle, MD and every other D you can imagine, on the lot of them you can correct me, but the major statistics I've seen, if you've been on the Ritalin or the Prozac or any of these type drugs that are classed as psychotropics or hallucinogenics or amphetamines, you're four times more likely to then become addicted to illegal drugs.
00:25:51.000 It's like saying, you know, if you take Methamphetamine for four years.
00:25:54.000 When you're a kid, you'll probably take it later in life.
00:25:56.000 You'll probably be a total addict.
00:25:59.000 So, they're creating markets, too.
00:26:02.000 By forcing children, even for a year or two, half of them, already 15% are on it, then as they grow up, they're going to be on all these other drugs.
00:26:11.000 And they don't care if it causes all the suicide and the murders and all this horrible stuff.
00:26:16.000 They'll just keep telling you how great it is.
00:26:17.000 Dr. Deagle, any comments?
00:26:19.000 Yeah, it's basically creating the clockwork orange.
00:26:22.000 They're scrambling their brains and creating a criminal system and expanding the prisons like crazy.
00:26:26.000 I was about to say that.
00:26:28.000 The same people that own Big Pharma, own the private prisons, own the military, and yes folks, they're the ones that ship in the illegal narcotics.
00:26:36.000 So they get the whole system coming and going.
00:26:39.000 Yeah, as a civilian doctor working with the military, I had Christian of Special Ops in Delta tell me in very specific details That the drug shipments coming into America were coming in through U.S.
00:26:51.000 naval ships and aircraft coming back from places like Afghanistan.
00:26:54.000 But then they'll kick down your door looking for a marijuana cigarette.
00:26:57.000 Right.
00:26:57.000 Or they'll go and harass a pain doctor who's taking care of someone who's terminal.
00:27:01.000 That's ridiculous.
00:27:02.000 That's right.
00:27:03.000 Why are you giving this person with bone cancer who's got a week to live a bunch of morphine?
00:27:07.000 Yeah.
00:27:09.000 That's the kind of insanity that's going on.
00:27:11.000 And I can tell you that even though the American Association of Pediatrics has now come out saying just a few months ago That these drugs have no efficacy.
00:27:20.000 And there's not one study that these drugs are of any use whatsoever.
00:27:20.000 None.
00:27:23.000 Actually, the studies show it's causing mass suicide.
00:27:26.000 Exactly.
00:27:26.000 And now...
00:27:28.000 Literally, a month later, they come out with a bill trying to force these drugs on children with the association.
00:27:32.000 These are doctors, my colleagues, that said, these drugs don't work.
00:27:36.000 Well, this shows what an important agenda it is, doctor.
00:27:38.000 You know, with Vioxx, causing heart problems, and a whole class of drugs that use the same molecular structure.
00:27:45.000 Now, what, five other drugs they met?
00:27:47.000 You see, notice, that'll go off the market, but not with these, with, what, 20 years of studies showing what they do?
00:27:53.000 Absolutely.
00:27:54.000 You can show their quantitative EEG of their brain.
00:27:57.000 You can show a PET scan that looks at the metabolism of their brain.
00:28:00.000 You can do a psychometric testing.
00:28:02.000 But they have a class of quacks, and I'm not saying they're all quacks, but the drug ones are, of psychologists and psychiatrists who aren't real doctors, who don't look at any real data like a real doctor does, like what's in the urine, what's in the chemicals, what's in the brain, a CAT scan, and they'll say, we don't care what you say, we're on the drugs ourselves.
00:28:19.000 Of course, they have the highest rate of any group of people for suicide, are these psychologists and psychiatrists?
00:28:24.000 Well, the problem is... They're just as nuts as... I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:28:27.000 The problem is, they need to use real science.
00:28:30.000 As you're looking at brain metabolism and tracking these people, what you see is they develop more behavioral problems.
00:28:37.000 They get more brain damage.
00:28:38.000 You get motor disorders like we're seeing Parkinson's disease earlier and earlier and Alzheimer's because these drugs burn their brain out.
00:28:45.000 They burn the same nuclei in the periaqueductal grayout.
00:28:47.000 They burn the same tissues in the brain.
00:28:50.000 You can actually see the changes occurring.
00:28:52.000 So we know that these disorders, it goes through a process called apoptosis where the brain cells actually go through programmed cell death.
00:28:59.000 Caused by these drugs.
00:29:00.000 It's no different than a crack addict or a methamphetamine addict.
00:29:03.000 Well, everybody knows that speed kills and somebody takes speed for five years, they're fried.
00:29:08.000 I had one of my son's friends flew up to visit us and he stayed with us for a week and his parents, his father was a policeman, he said, please, you know, get my kid off these drugs.
00:29:19.000 Their school was saying if he doesn't take these drugs, he can't come back to school.
00:29:23.000 I simply gave him some nutritional things and he was normalized within 24 hours.
00:29:27.000 He didn't need those drugs.
00:29:29.000 Those drugs were... And it's a very sneaky plan, doctor.
00:29:32.000 The average child drinks two Cokes and eats three candy bars.
00:29:35.000 They know that's going to cause problems and they put them on drugs after they've bounced off the walls.
00:29:39.000 Let's come back and take some calls.
00:29:39.000 Stay there, Dr. Diegel.
00:29:41.000 I'm glad you called in today.
00:29:42.000 Stay with us, folks.
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00:33:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:33:11.000 We're talking to Dr. William Beagle. .
00:33:16.000 Honored to have him with us.
00:33:17.000 Perfect timing because we have the Association of Physicians and Surgeons coming on in the third hour to talk about the New Freedom Initiative.
00:33:26.000 I mean, imagine, again, imagine a dystopic novel like Brave New World where it's the new freedom.
00:33:32.000 You won't go on drugs forcibly.
00:33:34.000 And we're about to go to your call.
00:33:35.000 Before we go back to Dr. Deagle, look, the biggest shopping day of the year is coming up.
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00:33:44.000 Why go out and fight the crowds?
00:33:46.000 Why go out and buy a bunch of slave goods made by poor slaves in China?
00:33:51.000 Why not give people, instead of a tie or a fruit pie or a George Foreman barbecue set that nobody's going to use, why not buy a bunch of my DVDs or VHS tapes or books or any of the other great books and tapes I carry by the best researchers out there And give them to people.
00:34:10.000 And by the way, if you buy my videos, you're authorized to make copies of them.
00:34:13.000 For educational purposes.
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00:34:32.000 Getting into 9-11 and so many other issues.
00:34:35.000 New Freedom, all of it.
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00:34:45.000 Give them as gifts.
00:34:46.000 You know, they have the nice color cover and the shrink wrap and the stamp on top of the DVD.
00:34:51.000 People love them.
00:34:53.000 Instead of giving them just a copy that they might not watch, they're giving me a copy of a video as a present.
00:34:57.000 No, this is a nice little $5.95 gift that you can give people.
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00:35:54.000 Why fight the crowds?
00:35:56.000 3139 or just write to me I'm Alex Jones at 3001 South Lamar Suite 100 Austin, Texas 78704 Why fight the crowds?
00:36:08.000 Why not buy 10 copies of my videos at $5.95 a piece and have your shopping done and spread the word and give the gift of unlocking somebody's mind All right.
00:36:19.000 Thank you.
00:36:20.000 I mean, that's why we've slashed prices down to the point I make about a dollar or two dollars a piece on those.
00:36:25.000 But I don't care, folks.
00:36:26.000 It's about getting the information out.
00:36:29.000 By the time I pay for, you know, the staff and the rent and the DVD, two bucks a piece, I make about a dollar or two off that, maybe.
00:36:39.000 But I don't care.
00:36:40.000 I just want to get the information out.
00:36:43.000 So please get the films.
00:36:45.000 Get them out to people.
00:36:46.000 I mean, I'm not going to be out fighting traffic.
00:36:49.000 We're going to give some gifts this holiday season.
00:36:53.000 But it's... My wife and I are staying up a few nights and doing some little acrylic paintings for family.
00:36:59.000 Oh, Mary, I'm giving away presents and family's listening.
00:37:03.000 You know, don't be part of this commercialized, demonic society where you go into debt to go out and buy everybody gifts and everybody just piles the junk in the middle of the room and nobody uses it.
00:37:14.000 If you're going to give a gift, offer to come over and help your old grandma.
00:37:24.000 Uh... clean outer closets or whatever.
00:37:26.000 Or, you know, uh... offer to take a family member on a trip somewhere or a day trip to maybe a national park or state park or something.
00:37:34.000 You know, you want to do something for the holiday season, get into the real spirit of what it's about, Christ's birth.
00:37:41.000 Take a family member who's ill or who hasn't been out a lot somewhere, visit them.
00:37:48.000 Or go to a hospital or go to a nursing home and see these poor people, these 85 year old men and women whose yuppie, demonic children have stuck them in a nursing home and don't come and visit them because they're scum and filth and probably have their kids on Ritalin and Prozac.
00:38:02.000 Okay, I don't want to keep ranting and raving and getting off on that.
00:38:05.000 Dr. Diegel, you made a lot of great points during the break when I was talking to you about how this is systematic all in the Western world, how we're the Central Tent Pole, and how this is like 1913 with the stuff passing now here in the holiday season.
00:38:20.000 Tell us about it.
00:38:22.000 Well, it just seems like it's parallel to the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, which is the first major act that moved us toward a global control of America.
00:38:32.000 And a republic is based on the principle that everybody is of infinite value, whether you're old, or you have Down Syndrome, or you're not super intelligent, or you have a physical or other disability, and that the majority can't take away your right.
00:38:49.000 And with this passage of this bill that went through the Senate, trying to force children, because they behave differently, with drugs, this is really the last straw.
00:39:01.000 We don't stand up to all these changes occurring.
00:39:04.000 There won't be any need for a constitution because we'll have no rights.
00:39:08.000 You won't even be able to raise issues such as looking, researching, I was reading on your website, researching the news is what we consider a crime.
00:39:17.000 Speaking out and telling things that you know are wrong or violations of the civil rights of not only yourself but everybody else will be criminal.
00:39:25.000 And America, as I mentioned in the break, is like the center tent post of the tent of the world.
00:39:31.000 And if that tent post is broken, the whole world will suffer.
00:39:37.000 Well, these new freedom initiatives are going in Australia, New Zealand, England, Germany, France, America, Canada, under slightly different names, and look, I got, we've had the guest on, we got the actual documents, the internal ones, and of course the TMAP started a decade ago right here in Austin, Texas, this is where they started the testing for this,
00:40:01.000 But it was written by, as I said, six or seven big drug companies, Eli Lilly at the head of it, and they brag in their internal documents, now public.
00:40:09.000 Now forget, I mean, publicly they admit they're going to forcibly drug everybody, and then it's going to start with adults and pregnant women.
00:40:14.000 That's even in the law.
00:40:17.000 But in there they say it's about market share, it's about, the internal documents just came out in England two weeks ago, that it's about marketing, it's about money, it's about marketing to people that even they admit, quote, don't need it.
00:40:31.000 And so, in the guidelines I was reading, Dr. William Deagle, I'm sure you've probably seen these, it says, you know, it's as wide as possible.
00:40:38.000 It's like these ads for depression.
00:40:40.000 Do you sometimes get upset?
00:40:41.000 Do you sometimes feel melancholy?
00:40:43.000 Are you sometimes unhappy?
00:40:44.000 Well, then come to us and get drugged, you know.
00:40:47.000 You know, instead of going out and having a jog, or getting involved, or, you know, getting out of the house and stop watching the television... Yeah, if you have someone else and actually have some proper spirit of the season, Maybe you won't be focused on yourself.
00:41:00.000 You won't be depressed because of your own situation.
00:41:03.000 You'll help someone else.
00:41:04.000 Well, that's the point.
00:41:05.000 You've got to just get up and do it.
00:41:06.000 Everybody gets down sometimes.
00:41:08.000 That's the nature of being a human being.
00:41:09.000 In these guidelines, Doctor, it says they're going to ask the children.
00:41:14.000 They're going to ask, imagine, 12 year olds.
00:41:16.000 But it starts with 5 year olds, folks.
00:41:18.000 By law.
00:41:18.000 Everybody.
00:41:20.000 They ask them, Doctor, in the guidelines.
00:41:23.000 They ask him, do you sometimes get upset?
00:41:25.000 Are you having confused feelings?
00:41:28.000 Do you sometimes get angry and argue with your parents?
00:41:30.000 Now, what 12-year-old isn't having those feelings?
00:41:33.000 Yeah, that's the nature of becoming a pre-teen.
00:41:36.000 And what I see, this is no different than the Hitler Youth Program, where they co-opt the youth by putting them on drugs and putting them at odds with their parents, who don't want them on drugs.
00:41:46.000 And eventually dissecting them away, so now they're the property of the state.
00:41:50.000 And of course, Where I see everything going is in 20 years if we don't stop this, or even less, maybe 10 years, people won't be able to even reproduce.
00:41:57.000 It'll be a state-run thing and factory.
00:42:00.000 And people say, no, that wouldn't happen.
00:42:02.000 I said, that's the direction they're talking about.
00:42:04.000 That's the official plan!
00:42:06.000 That's the official plan.
00:42:07.000 The official plan is to wet-wire the population, control human reproduction, have it in laboratories, get rid of anybody who has a genetic defect by genetic screening.
00:42:17.000 Laws are already going on in England!
00:42:20.000 Well, I do gene polymorphism things to help people that have sickness or toxic problems.
00:42:25.000 That's the good side.
00:42:26.000 The bad side is they want to grow genetic copies of you in laboratories like the movie Coma so they can transplant organs so you can live extended lives with body parts from your clone.
00:42:36.000 Well, I'm sure you saw the Washington Post with the chimeras.
00:42:40.000 Oh, by the way, in Argentina we've got half chimpanzee, half human creatures, but they don't have any rights and you can't see them.
00:42:46.000 And then, oh, we've got pigs with human organs and human blood in Minnesota.
00:42:52.000 Oh, we're growing human embryos in mice.
00:42:57.000 But do you know how long they've been doing this, though?
00:42:59.000 Well, according to my sources, 20 years.
00:43:03.000 My reports that I have is that it's roughly 1984, but there were experiments before that.
00:43:10.000 But 1984, roughly, is when they were capable of doing it.
00:43:13.000 They're doing research between here and Russia, and there were cooperative projects going on for decades during the so-called Cold War.
00:43:21.000 And again, you were involved, and again, folks, this is mainstream news, you can type Dr. Deagle's name in, but you were involved in Homeland Security, high-level meetings with the FBI Directors, you've been in some classified projects we can't get into here, but I think you described it a few weeks ago as a, what'd you call these cyborg labs, you called them... Well, the specific one that I actually walked through was Dr. Wallace Tordalot's lab at the VA Hospital in Santa Monica, California.
00:43:50.000 And they had, this is 1978, so imagine how many years ago that is, and they had a stereotactic CT scanner that could insert palladium and platinum electrodes and microchips into the brains and wet wire them at that time.
00:44:02.000 Imagine how much more advanced it is now.
00:44:04.000 They had a device there for testing test pilots, so they had a squid machine, which is cool liquid nitrogen to measure brain wave patterns so they could send an analysis to a supercomputer, a Cray-4 computer, And then go back and send out the signal to actually display what he was thinking on the screen.
00:44:23.000 So we do it by verification, by eye blinks, by looking at a specific target on the screen.
00:44:27.000 But you described the stuff going on in Colorado that you can't talk about.
00:44:30.000 I believe you called it, you know, nightmares beyond your belief, or what was that particular comment?
00:44:35.000 Yeah, well there's all kinds of weird genetic experiments going on that people just, they can't even imagine, like you're talking about the chimeras.
00:44:43.000 Those have been happening for decades.
00:44:45.000 And it's not really difficult to do.
00:44:47.000 You take the blastula, you separate the cells at a certain stage, you mix the cells together, many of them will fuse.
00:44:53.000 You have a fused cell that actually has human and non-human DNA.
00:44:56.000 It's really, really child's play to do this.
00:44:59.000 And there's no telling what type of super virus or bacteria could rise from this at any time.
00:45:05.000 Right, and you could start a pandemic from it, just from doing that, because you transfer a virus.
00:45:09.000 The virus changes its outside capsid so it can now lock onto a human cell of other humans.
00:45:14.000 And before you know it, this chimera could actually transfer a virus that's only in pigs that could kill millions of people.
00:45:19.000 And I was reading that they're doing clone and chimera cross-species splicing in level 2 labs.
00:45:28.000 They're not even having protections.
00:45:30.000 Is that accurate?
00:45:31.000 Yeah, it is.
00:45:34.000 So, I mean, are the globalists that are running things, do they have a psychotic death wish for humanity or something?
00:45:40.000 Well, actually, I spoke in 1997 in March.
00:45:43.000 I was asked by Human Life International to speak in Zurich, Switzerland about fetal tissue transplantation and genetic engineering.
00:45:50.000 And so I spoke for two hours, and after I sat down, they gave me six inches of documents showing that the WHO is behind many different plague laboratories making these plague viruses.
00:45:59.000 They have an intention To reduce the world population.
00:46:02.000 Well, they had that Nobel laureate just came out from Africa and said it.
00:46:05.000 Yeah, it's the truth.
00:46:07.000 These viruses, like the AIDS virus, was a genetically engineered retrovirus, and the Americans and Russians were doing research in Uganda at class one facilities that were just basically an open hut in the jungle.
00:46:19.000 That's what they were doing back in the 60s.
00:46:20.000 Let's take some calls.
00:46:22.000 Alex in North Carolina, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
00:46:24.000 Oop, I'm sorry, my speakerphone isn't good.
00:46:27.000 Hi.
00:46:28.000 Hi, Mr. Jones.
00:46:29.000 Hello.
00:46:30.000 Hi, it's really interesting that you're talking about chimeras and gene splicing, because just yesterday on NPR, they had a little piece on the bird virus, or the avian flu.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, it's going to kill all of us and it's all over, but world government will save you.
00:46:46.000 Well, not only that, but it's been in the media over and over again, and I don't know why.
00:46:50.000 I don't know whether it's to make us afraid, so we'll all get flu shots, or if it's just to go out there and gauge the response.
00:46:59.000 This NPR show was actually about how the CDC is experimenting with the virus and trying to manipulate it and... Yeah, they've admitted that the WHO and the CDC have weaponized it to, quote, study it.
00:47:12.000 Isn't that nice, Dr. Deagle?
00:47:14.000 Yeah, to be honest with you, they're not on the good side of this.
00:47:19.000 I can tell you that from the inside.
00:47:20.000 They are not on the good side.
00:47:22.000 You'll get the impression that they come out with public policies, but I haven't seen one thing that the government spent That empowers the public, the emergency medical technicians and ambulances, the hospital emergency departments, or the public health system, other than so-called a database that really doesn't properly notify if there really is an epidemic starting.
00:47:41.000 Yeah, that database really just relies on what prescriptions you're on.
00:47:46.000 What else, Alex?
00:47:47.000 Well, the other thing is that since the new Freedom Initiative has passed, people might enjoy over the holiday season renting A film that came out in 1971, I think, by George Lucas.
00:47:59.000 It's called THX 1138.
00:48:02.000 And it's essentially the New Freedom Initiative taken to its conclusion.
00:48:06.000 It's a society of people who live underground.
00:48:09.000 They're all shaved heads.
00:48:10.000 They walk around.
00:48:11.000 Yeah, they're about to re-release that.
00:48:14.000 Yeah, a little bit edited, but mostly intact.
00:48:18.000 Wait a minute, you're saying already the re-digitally mastered, where they used all the new computer animation to make it more fancy has come out?
00:48:25.000 Right, right.
00:48:26.000 He's done that with all his films.
00:48:27.000 I guess that's not too surprising.
00:48:28.000 But basically, the general premise is still there.
00:48:31.000 These people live in a society where it's illegal to not take the drugs.
00:48:37.000 It's illegal to reproduce naturally.
00:48:41.000 You're forced to build these police robots that beat you and control you.
00:48:49.000 And it came out in 1971.
00:48:50.000 That plan has been in the works for many decades.
00:48:55.000 It's funny, I don't know if it's, uh... Huxley, did you know before Huxley died, two months before he died, he gave a speech at Berkeley?
00:49:01.000 And he said, look, I've been in the labs, the wires work in people's brains.
00:49:05.000 This is the actual plan.
00:49:07.000 My brother, you know, his brother was head of UNESCO.
00:49:09.000 He said, this is all the plan.
00:49:10.000 That's why I've written about this.
00:49:12.000 And, uh, you know, that's why I wrote a second book about it.
00:49:15.000 He said, this is what's going to happen by 2000.
00:49:17.000 He was just a few years behind.
00:49:18.000 Thanks for the call, Alex.
00:49:19.000 You're welcome.
00:49:21.000 Go ahead, Dr. Deagle.
00:49:22.000 They put in experiments of putting chips into employees at places like Hughes Aerospace down in Needles, California and elsewhere.
00:49:31.000 Even employees that are welders and so on, they go into the local hospital for the facility.
00:49:35.000 They come out and all of a sudden they're having problems and then they get an x-ray of their head or a CT scan and they find they have a chip in them.
00:49:41.000 Let's talk to Cliff in Texas.
00:49:43.000 Cliff, you're on the air.
00:49:44.000 Hello?
00:49:47.000 Yes, Cliff.
00:49:48.000 Oh, how you doing?
00:49:48.000 I thought you got cut off.
00:49:51.000 Yeah, from experience.
00:49:52.000 I used to be on Welbutrin.
00:49:54.000 I don't know if the doctor knows.
00:49:56.000 I'm very familiar with it.
00:49:58.000 Excuse me?
00:49:58.000 Very familiar with it.
00:49:59.000 Yeah, and I went through a lot of psychological testing during my divorce.
00:50:06.000 You know, I checked myself in the rehab center because I was on some pretty bad stuff.
00:50:10.000 And, you know, they spent four days testing me and come up inconclusive that anything was wrong with me.
00:50:17.000 So they said, well, you might be bipolar.
00:50:19.000 Take this.
00:50:21.000 Hey, when I was on that stuff, it was like, um, I was stripped of my most primal emotion.
00:50:28.000 You become a non-person.
00:50:30.000 Right.
00:50:30.000 And then when I stopped taking it, it was horrendous.
00:50:35.000 I can imagine.
00:50:36.000 Your body is now accommodated.
00:50:37.000 It's changed the actual physical structure of your neuron.
00:50:40.000 Right.
00:50:41.000 And then what happens is...
00:50:44.000 A lady quits taking it for the day, has a chemical imbalance, and chops your toddler up.
00:50:49.000 Just happened yesterday!
00:50:52.000 Demonic filth takeover, scum massing upon us.
00:50:55.000 We'll be right back.
00:50:56.000 Stay there, Cliff.
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00:53:56.000 www.fema.org Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
00:54:22.000 We're here talking to Dr. Deagle.
00:54:28.000 Coming up is G. Edward Griffin.
00:54:31.000 I want to get through Cliff, Jim, and Tim.
00:54:33.000 Those have been holding the longest.
00:54:35.000 But when we're dealing with this, when we're talking about this, they know what these drugs are doing.
00:54:43.000 They know the effects they're having.
00:54:46.000 And they could care less.
00:54:48.000 And it's very, very sad to see this happening.
00:54:51.000 And you talk to people who are just fine.
00:54:53.000 People have car wrecks now, and their back hurts, and they push Prozac and these type of drugs on them.
00:54:58.000 Prozac, the company that makes it, sent out, what, a few years ago, hundreds of thousands of just free samples to people's mailboxes?
00:55:06.000 I mean, that's incredible.
00:55:09.000 Cliff in Texas, finish up what you were saying.
00:55:13.000 Yeah, I've known people that were on Prozac and Ritalin, and the ones on Ritalin were just drooling imbeciles.
00:55:20.000 And the ones on Prozac were hair triggers.
00:55:23.000 I mean, they have no sense of logic, or they'll just fly off the handle, and there is no talking to them.
00:55:31.000 My ex-wife was one of them.
00:55:32.000 Yeah, the Rage Control Center is misfiring.
00:55:36.000 So there's no normal inhibition of behaviors that are unacceptable.
00:55:42.000 The other side, of course, of the equation is they're now trying to introduce bills, which luckily He's temporarily got defeated where they're going to do a script log monitoring of every doctor in the United States of every script they write.
00:55:54.000 Not just payments, but every script.
00:55:56.000 And they'll know everything you take and try to make sure that your doctor is giving you drug X, Y, Z. Thank God it got defeated by our Association of Physicians and Surgeons.
00:56:06.000 But for now, they're going to try to reintroduce this to get control of everyone.
00:56:09.000 Absolutely.
00:56:10.000 Thanks for the quote, Cliff.
00:56:11.000 We got other people, Cliff.
00:56:14.000 I appreciate your call.
00:56:15.000 Jim in Ohio.
00:56:16.000 Jim, you're on the air.
00:56:17.000 Go ahead.
00:56:19.000 Good afternoon.
00:56:20.000 Thank you.
00:56:20.000 Hello.
00:56:21.000 Hey, just a quick one for you.
00:56:22.000 A friend of ours has her daughter in a Catholic school, and they took the school pictures, and the daughter brings home an ID card.
00:56:30.000 So the mom goes ballistic, because she's up to speed on what's going on in the world, and calls the school, and the school knows nothing about it, and they give her the photography company, you know, their number.
00:56:42.000 Well, she calls them and is trying to explain what happened, and the company misinterprets what she's saying, and what the company told her was, and this is a company that's been around since 1939, they're huge, that they keep the digital photos, all of them, on file, she said, and that they keep them just in case the police need them, in case your child's abducted.
00:57:06.000 Yeah, and the Masons are big on this, and it's about getting it all into the system.
00:57:09.000 Those are, what was it, eight years ago, they caught the feds buying state driver's license photos for their face scanning database.
00:57:17.000 Right.
00:57:18.000 So, it's basically your child's mug shot.
00:57:21.000 Exactly, and the other thing, just a rather quick point here.
00:57:24.000 We were coming through the TV shows, and that CSI Miami was on, and we noticed that the people who got arrested never had an attorney with them.
00:57:34.000 And then they ended up confessing when they were presented with the evidence.
00:57:37.000 So we started clicking around to different shows over different nights.
00:57:41.000 Yeah, everywhere!
00:57:41.000 They've been doing this for decades.
00:57:43.000 They show you always confessing, only having a judge, never having a jury, arresting people for having marijuana, charging them as terrorists.
00:57:52.000 Dr. Deagle, comments?
00:57:53.000 Yeah, what's happening is they're trying to criminalize regular drugs and totally control the medical profession because, remember, The implantable chip, which is what their eventual intention is, it's not an ID card.
00:58:05.000 Because if everything's in your ID card, your entire identity can be stolen.
00:58:09.000 Their intention is to put the chip in you.
00:58:13.000 And so, that's a medical procedure, so they have to control the medical profession completely, or they won't be able to force us to the final step.
00:58:22.000 And by the way, that's the official government plan.
00:58:24.000 Anything else, Jim?
00:58:26.000 Yeah, just a quick one.
00:58:27.000 We started our own newsletter here in our own county and are putting it in mailboxes and on windshields along with the InfoWars information on it.
00:58:34.000 Good job.
00:58:35.000 Keep it up, Jim.
00:58:36.000 Take care.
00:58:36.000 Thank you.
00:58:37.000 You bet.
00:58:37.000 We'll talk to Tim in Ohio on the other side quickly in the early part of the next hour.
00:58:41.000 We'll let Dr. Diegel go, then in about four or five minutes, we'll have G. Edward Griffin on to get him to do who runs all this.
00:58:46.000 You know what they're doing, but who owns us?
00:58:49.000 Big brother.
00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.
00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:02.000 You want answers?
00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:18.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen.
00:59:20.000 We're now into hour number two.
00:59:23.000 G. Edward Griffin is coming up here in just a minute or two.
00:59:26.000 In fact, do we have our guest?
00:59:30.000 All right.
00:59:30.000 He's coming up in just a moment or so.
00:59:32.000 You know, we talked about the new Freedom Initiative in the last hour, which did pass, and finally it's in a bunch of different newspapers and publications.
00:59:44.000 The fourth psychological testing of all children.
00:59:48.000 Whether you're public school or private school or home school.
00:59:52.000 And that's going to start, of course, where they'll go arrest some poor black woman who refused and they'll say, oh, look, she was abusing her child.
01:00:00.000 And it'll be, oh, it's those people.
01:00:05.000 See, she had a mentally ill child and refused to get them help.
01:00:09.000 And they'll use all those examples the media will promote it and it's going to span out into the whole population.
01:00:14.000 And part of your school curriculum will be twice a year from age five until you graduate will be forced psychological testing with guidelines written by the big drug companies.
01:00:29.000 So that's the freedom.
01:00:32.000 That's the system.
01:00:35.000 Now the Homeland Security National ID Card Patriot Act 2 bill did not pass.
01:00:41.000 But they say they're going to have an emergency session sometime in December They always pull this with the Federal Reserve, the Income Tax, the War Powers Act, the National Security Act.
01:00:50.000 It's always passed in December during emergency sessions.
01:00:55.000 And three Senators can get in there and have a quorum call and pass it if they want to.
01:01:01.000 Just like they can pull any other scam they want.
01:01:03.000 So, got to stay vigilant on that.
01:01:06.000 Well, let's go ahead and talk to Tim in Ohio.
01:01:08.000 Tim, you're on the air.
01:01:09.000 Go ahead.
01:01:10.000 Good afternoon.
01:01:11.000 Alex, I wanted to ask a quick question if I could about how the MEPA legislation, the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, fits into all of this.
01:01:11.000 Hello.
01:01:20.000 And I do believe that within that legislation it was written that if you refuse a mandatory vaccination you can actually be jailed.
01:01:28.000 And could this be used as a vehicle to get microchips in these vaccinations when we're not paying attention?
01:01:36.000 You know, I think they're going to sell the chipping just as a fad.
01:01:41.000 As something to get discounts and something for security.
01:01:45.000 I mean, they already, you know, they tell the Mexican judicial workers, take the chip or you're fired, and over a thousand say, Heil Hitler, and do it.
01:01:52.000 So that's one way they're doing it, but no, the model states held the Emergency Powers Act.
01:01:58.000 Most of the states refused to pass it, so they just passed it in page 71 of the Homeland Security Package a couple years ago.
01:02:07.000 Uh, and in there, yes, mass roundups, mass arrests, forced inoculations.
01:02:11.000 Uh, there's other stuff they've already put in these vaccines.
01:02:14.000 So it's setting the precedent, and now Homeland Security's running these, uh, ads.
01:02:20.000 Where you talk to your child and, what do I do if a terrorist attack mommy?
01:02:24.000 Where do I go?
01:02:25.000 What do I do?
01:02:26.000 And then of course, the ad seems reasonable about, yeah I have a plan, but then the government then goes, we've got a plan.
01:02:33.000 If there's an attack, we take your children to a secure location.
01:02:36.000 We're not going to let you have them.
01:02:38.000 Well that's been out for two years now.
01:02:40.000 So, again, they create a problem.
01:02:42.000 They tell you, we've got to have a plan if there's an attack.
01:02:44.000 Run these ads, raise the question, and then, oh, we've got the answer.
01:02:48.000 We're going to take your children from you during a disaster.
01:02:51.000 And that was the official plan.
01:02:53.000 And the new Freedom Commission, or whatever, who's going to pay for these exams?
01:02:59.000 And where's the money going to come from to actually push this through?
01:03:05.000 Congress just funded it.
01:03:07.000 What do you mean?
01:03:07.000 They just pay to send psychiatrists and psychologists into the school twice a year, and then beg pharma, you pay for your own destruction, they get to then, instead of 15%, 50% is their target goal, kids on drugs.
01:03:22.000 So it'll be our tax dollars to put us in our own prison.
01:03:25.000 Isn't it always?
01:03:27.000 Good to hear from you, Tim.
01:03:29.000 I appreciate your call.
01:03:31.000 All right, we'll come back, cover more news, take more of your calls at 1-800-259-9231.
01:03:34.000 Let's see them try to implement, though.
01:03:40.000 They'll target the poor and disenfranchised first.
01:03:42.000 I mean, it says everybody, but they'll use examples of the media.
01:03:45.000 Oh, see, this kid was crazy, and they wouldn't help him.
01:03:48.000 No, it's your child, too.
01:03:49.000 Half of your children will be forced on it.
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01:07:04.000 Alright, coming up in the next hour, we have the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons.
01:07:13.000 The New Freedom Initiative passed.
01:07:15.000 The forced psychological testing of every child in the country, homeschooled, private schooled.
01:07:21.000 They will come, and if you don't go along with it, they will arrest you.
01:07:26.000 And Ron Paul couldn't even get parental consent.
01:07:28.000 Now again, if you're a convicted axe murderer who escapes from prison, they can't make you answer questions under the Fifth Amendment.
01:07:37.000 And this is totally criminal, totally unconstitutional, but they're going to try to push it.
01:07:41.000 So we're going to get into this nightmare and more news in the third hour and of course your calls.
01:07:45.000 For the next 54 minutes, or 53 minutes, I am honored to have G. Edward Griffin, who has probably educated more people out there on the Federal Reserve than anybody else.
01:07:57.000 Maybe Eustis Mullins, the great granddaddy of it all, maybe has reached maybe a few more people in his 60 years of fighting, but G. Edward Griffin wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island about the big bankers meeting and Who they are, and how the Federal Reserve works, and what we're facing.
01:08:13.000 But basically, the Federal Reserve creates money out of nothing, it's private, and then they buy up the gold, and they buy up the industries, and they buy up the world with it, and they put us into debt, paying back interest on something that's a fraud to begin with.
01:08:28.000 Then they're able to radically inflate the money and devalue the dollar at the same time.
01:08:32.000 Basically, it makes us total slaves.
01:08:34.000 And the average person, now that people finally know the Federal Reserve is private, I hear yuppies call in the talk shows and go, well, doesn't somebody need to run it?
01:08:42.000 These are good people that care about us!
01:08:44.000 So joining us for the next 55 minutes is G. Edward Griffin.
01:08:48.000 And by the way, folks, we're going to be giving out a number where you can get this book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, the preeminent work on the Federal Reserve, put in a context where everybody can understand it.
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01:09:05.000 Sir, it's great to have you on with us.
01:09:06.000 Well, thanks, Alex.
01:09:07.000 It's good to be here.
01:09:08.000 You bet.
01:09:10.000 A lot of our listeners know all about this, but I'd say half of them over the last year are pretty new.
01:09:15.000 The show's exploded.
01:09:16.000 I mean, you're talking to a crowd, some of them out there that have no idea what the Federal Reserve is.
01:09:21.000 Explain it to us and explain your book.
01:09:23.000 Well, yeah, that's a big chunk to explain the Federal Reserve System in a nutshell.
01:09:29.000 I guess, let's try it though, see how far we can get.
01:09:32.000 The Federal Reserve System is a cartel.
01:09:34.000 Now, that'll bring up a lot of people pretty short because they think it's a government agency of some kind, and it's not.
01:09:41.000 It's created by the government, but it's operated entirely privately.
01:09:45.000 And when you strip off all of the All the garments from and get down to that naked creature underneath.
01:09:51.000 It's a cartel.
01:09:52.000 It's a banking cartel.
01:09:53.000 No different than the sugar cartel or the oil cartel.
01:09:57.000 This one happens to be a banking cartel and it was created by an act of Congress in 1913.
01:10:02.000 So it's given the force of law and most cartels actually like to have the force of law attached to their cartel agreements because it's how they enforce the agreements.
01:10:13.000 You know, if you were, let's say you were part of the oil cartel or OPEC, And one of the countries decided that they were going to break the agreement on what they're going to charge for oil.
01:10:24.000 You had no way to force them to keep the agreement.
01:10:30.000 The same thing is with any cartel.
01:10:32.000 How do you force the members to keep the agreement?
01:10:35.000 Well, you get the government involved and take the cartel agreement and pass it through Congress and make it a law.
01:10:41.000 Now, if one of the members break the agreement, they go to jail.
01:10:45.000 Cartels like to do that.
01:10:48.000 So this whole thing was created back in 1913 at a time when the banks were really struggling because they had At that time participated in a lot of shaky arrangements with regard to their deposits and their reserves.
01:11:03.000 We might get into that a little bit more later on.
01:11:06.000 But banks were folding.
01:11:08.000 There were runs on the bank.
01:11:10.000 People were asking for their money back that they had been told they could have at any time.
01:11:14.000 And many of the banks had been embarrassed because when the lines created out in front, they said, oh, golly, well, we now have to admit we don't have your money in the bank.
01:11:23.000 We've loaned it out.
01:11:24.000 And so they wanted some way to get the government involved to protect them and make it look as though it was something they were doing for the better.
01:11:32.000 But in many cases it was actually the very same later cartel controllers who would manipulate these controlled crashes and even brag about it to have profit taking and then they create the crisis and then offer a solution that's even far worse.
01:11:48.000 Well yes, that's an age-old tactic, is it not?
01:11:52.000 The reason I called the book The Creature from Jekyll Island is because, well first of all it has kind of a mysterious sound to it and it might attract somebody's attention, but the real rationale behind it is because it's historically accurate.
01:12:07.000 Jekyll Island is a real island and it's off the coast of Georgia.
01:12:12.000 And it was on that island, back in 1910, that the Federal Reserve System was actually conceived.
01:12:17.000 And corporations are considered persons, and so they created a new creature.
01:12:22.000 They created a new creature.
01:12:22.000 Yes, indeed.
01:12:24.000 And it's curious, I thought, when I was doing my initial research, that why would they create something like this?
01:12:31.000 Not in Washington, D.C.
01:12:32.000 You'd expect that to be created in some hearing room or some office in Washington.
01:12:38.000 But no, they went to this private island off the coast of Georgia, which was owned by a group of billionaires from New York, people like J.P.
01:12:47.000 Morgan and William Rockefeller and their business associates.
01:12:51.000 It was a club.
01:12:52.000 It was a resort island where their families went during the cold winter months up in New York.
01:12:57.000 And I thought, why would they go down there?
01:12:59.000 And then I discovered that they had exercised a lot of caution so that nobody would know that they went.
01:13:05.000 There was great secrecy surrounding it.
01:13:07.000 Because back then we had Senators and Congressmen railing against them, calling them criminals, talking about their takeover plan.
01:13:13.000 Well, yes, exactly.
01:13:14.000 I mean, here was a plan that was offered to the American people as a means of controlling the banks.
01:13:21.000 And bringing the banks, you know, back to sanity.
01:13:23.000 Written by the bank owners!
01:13:25.000 Yeah, had they known that the whole program was being created by the banks themselves, well then the scam would have been out in the open, which is why all the secrecy about that meeting.
01:13:35.000 So anyway, that was the reason we called it the Creature from Jekyll Island.
01:13:39.000 And, you know, to me it was like asking the fox to build the hen house.
01:13:43.000 And that's exactly what they did.
01:13:46.000 It's unbelievable, and let's go through how they got it passed during the holiday season like they always do with this stuff, and then the progression of what they've done with this power since then, and now look at the plunging dollar, look at the debt, look at what the Federal Reserve is doing to us.
01:14:05.000 How they got it passed, I think, is a fascinating story and it tells us a lot about these people.
01:14:05.000 Well, yes.
01:14:11.000 First of all, the people who created the Federal Reserve Act went out of their way to look like they were opposing it.
01:14:20.000 In other words, they were leading their own opposition.
01:14:23.000 People who had attended the meeting were giving press releases or statements to newspaper reporters saying, oh, well, this bill is going to be bad for business.
01:14:33.000 I'm going to give you the floor.
01:14:34.000 You've got about five minutes to the break.
01:14:38.000 Just give us that history.
01:14:39.000 Give us what happened and how they ran it through.
01:14:43.000 Yeah, it's very instructive.
01:14:43.000 Tell us about it.
01:14:46.000 The first draft of the bill, of course, was called the Aldridge Bill, and one of the participants of this whole thing Uh, was Paul Warburg and Warburg said to Senator Aldrich, whose name was on the bill, he said, uh, you know, you better not do this because you are well, uh, well known to be associated with the bankers and big business and people will say, well, that's a big business bill.
01:15:09.000 And his ego was so great, he said, oh, no, after all, I'm chairman of the National Monetary Commission, and it is the bill of my committee.
01:15:17.000 So he put his name on it.
01:15:18.000 And sure enough, there was a lot of backlash in Congress.
01:15:21.000 People said exactly what Warburg said they would say, which was that it's a bill of big business.
01:15:26.000 So it didn't get much support.
01:15:28.000 So that was not too big a setback.
01:15:30.000 They came along and they got a couple of Democrats to support the bill.
01:15:35.000 And these guys, of course, were bankers too, but they at least were Democrats and they weren't well known as being associated with big business.
01:15:44.000 So now with the Democrat bill, it was okay.
01:15:47.000 It was the same bill, basically, but now it was okay.
01:15:50.000 Now some of these people who sponsored the bill began to give these statements to the public.
01:15:55.000 That they opposed the bill, which of course was not true.
01:15:58.000 But they were saying, oh, this bill is going to be bad for business.
01:16:00.000 It's going to be bad for the country.
01:16:02.000 You know, the average person would read that in the newspaper and they'd say, hey, Maud, you hear, listen to this.
01:16:07.000 Now, these bankers don't like this bill very much.
01:16:10.000 Must be pretty good.
01:16:12.000 You know?
01:16:13.000 And so they were using mass psychology on the American people, leading their own opposition, which is a tactic which we've seen done many, many, many times since then in many issues.
01:16:24.000 And then they created little committees around the country, little ad hoc committees led usually by one or two people who were employed at either one of the banks or one of the corporations which were within the bank orbit.
01:16:39.000 And these people would say, well, I'm the Ohio Committee for Banking Reform.
01:16:44.000 And they generate a little letterhead and then they start issuing press releases to the local papers.
01:16:49.000 The papers would take it at face value.
01:16:51.000 And people got the impression, well, gee, there's a grassroots movement out here in favor of the Federal Reserve Act.
01:16:58.000 I guess people like it.
01:16:59.000 And then they gave large amounts of money to some of the larger universities where they didn't have departments of economics, or at least they were underfunded.
01:17:08.000 And along with the money, of course, came the stipulation that the donors be given the option of naming the head of the department.
01:17:17.000 Most of the universities were happy to have a million dollars, and also the nominee of a nice professor to be head of the department.
01:17:25.000 So all of a sudden, these departments of economics were staffed and headed by people who were very, very friendly to the Federal Reserve Act.
01:17:32.000 And they started to write these scholarly tomes about how wonderful it would be for the nation.
01:17:38.000 And so all of this was a conducted, carefully orchestrated campaign To create the impression that there was massive support at the academic level and at the grassroots level and that the bankers were opposed to it.
01:17:51.000 All of this was done.
01:17:52.000 It was a brilliantly orchestrated scenario.
01:17:55.000 By the way, that exact same thing is being done to amend the Constitution for Arnold Schwarzenegger right now.
01:18:01.000 Yes, exactly the same.
01:18:02.000 The same tactics.
01:18:03.000 They don't change.
01:18:04.000 They always work.
01:18:05.000 And the only trouble is that the average American is not aware of these tactics.
01:18:09.000 Falls for it every time!
01:18:11.000 So, anyway, that's how the Federal Reserve was sold to the American people.
01:18:15.000 And as you said, it was passed during a session just before Christmas, although I think there's too much been made of that because most of the congressmen and senators were already on record as being in favor of it.
01:18:27.000 And so, if they had been there, I think they would have voted for it anyway.
01:18:32.000 All right, we're talking to G. Edward Griffin, preacher from Jekyll Island.
01:18:36.000 We'll be back, and later we'll tell you how to get this book.
01:18:38.000 It's important that we know history.
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01:22:59.000 Thank you.
01:23:04.000 We're talking to G. Edward Griffin, author of The Preacher from Jekyll Island.
01:23:11.000 Continue please, sir, with how they got the Federal Reserve back through and now what they've since done with it.
01:23:18.000 Well, yeah, that pretty well covered the history in a nutshell of how they got it through.
01:23:22.000 It was a great media blitz and propaganda blitz, which was beautifully orchestrated by these people.
01:23:29.000 You know, they're not stupid.
01:23:30.000 They didn't get to be in these positions of extreme power that they are by being naive.
01:23:35.000 And they understand mass psychology and political maneuvering very well.
01:23:40.000 And so, it's something we need to know, that not all of these bills, in fact very few of the bills that go through Congress, are what they appear to be.
01:23:49.000 I mean, the Federal Reserve Act was sold to the American people as a means of, the phrase they used then, was to break the grip of the money trust.
01:23:57.000 Well, in fact, it was written by the money trust, and the whole purpose of the bill was to consolidate the grip of the money trust.
01:24:04.000 Totally secure it!
01:24:05.000 Totally secure it, which is what they did.
01:24:08.000 The Federal Reserve was, I should say, the banking system was in a rather state of disarray and decline at that point.
01:24:15.000 And ever since the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, of course, it's been strengthened and expanded because now they have the guarantee of the American taxpayer to back up their whole system.
01:24:26.000 If anything goes wrong within the banking system now, you can be sure that the American taxpayer will be called in to pay the bills and to make it right.
01:24:35.000 I mean, explain to people how it works, though.
01:24:37.000 I mean, a bank can loan out, what, ten times for what its real reserves are, and when they loan you money for a house, I mean, it's a total scam, and then the system's based on creating more and more debt.
01:24:49.000 Well, yeah, let me walk through that, because that's the fascinating part of the whole thing.
01:24:52.000 I call it the Mandrake Mechanism, because back in the 1940s, there was a comic book character by the name of Mandrake the Magician.
01:25:00.000 And I used to read Mandrake.
01:25:01.000 I thought he was a pretty cool guy.
01:25:04.000 He could wave his cape and produce things out of thin air and wave it again and they would disappear.
01:25:09.000 It was an amazing thing.
01:25:10.000 I thought, aha!
01:25:11.000 This is what they do at the Federal Reserve.
01:25:13.000 So I call it the Mandrake Mechanism.
01:25:16.000 And it works something like this.
01:25:17.000 First of all, you have to understand that the Federal Reserve, as I mentioned before, is a cartel.
01:25:22.000 But it's a cartel which is in partnership with the federal government.
01:25:27.000 And because the government authorized it, chartered it, created the special Act of Congress that made it an entity, and it backs it with the force of law.
01:25:36.000 So the question is, why would the federal government and the banking system become partners in a venture?
01:25:42.000 And the answer is pretty simple.
01:25:45.000 Obviously, there are benefits to both groups.
01:25:47.000 Otherwise, they wouldn't do it.
01:25:48.000 So, in following the Mandrake mechanism, we'll see the benefits to both sides.
01:25:53.000 We start with the political side.
01:25:56.000 Why do the politicians go into it?
01:25:58.000 And it works something like this.
01:26:00.000 Congress is spending money like a drunken sailor on a weekend.
01:26:05.000 The only thing is that the politicians know that it's popular to spend money, but unpopular to raise taxes to pay for what they're spending.
01:26:15.000 So the goal of most politicians is how do you spend more and tax less?
01:26:21.000 And the answer is, well, you borrow the money.
01:26:23.000 If you don't want to raise taxes, which would get you unelected, then you borrow the money instead of raising taxes.
01:26:29.000 And that works for a while because people are always willing to step forward.
01:26:33.000 I used to buy bonds and I don't anymore, of course, because I don't think it's ethical.
01:26:38.000 But a lot of people will buy government bonds because they know that they're going to get their money back, plus an interest.
01:26:45.000 Institutions buy government bonds and treasury notes.
01:26:49.000 Banks buy them.
01:26:49.000 Corporations buy them.
01:26:51.000 Retirement funds buy them.
01:26:52.000 So there are a lot of people who are willing to lend the government money Uh, so that the politicians can spend more than they take in as taxes.
01:27:00.000 The problem there, of course, is that the loan to the government, the bond, has to be paid back.
01:27:05.000 And when it comes time to pay back these bonds, lo and behold, the politicians are still spending more than they're taking in, so they don't have the money to pay back the original bonds.
01:27:15.000 The solution is that they go out and borrow more money to pay back the original bonds, plus enough more to handle the continuation of the expenses.
01:27:24.000 So, the number of bonds out there grows, and the debt grows, and we know, well, from experience, that's how the national debt grows every day, by millions, if not billions of dollars.
01:27:35.000 Well, all right.
01:27:35.000 So far, so good.
01:27:37.000 The Federal Reserve comes along, though, and adds a new dimension to it.
01:27:40.000 You see, as long as individuals or institutions are loaning money to the government, it doesn't create any new money into the system, because that money has already been in somebody's pocket or somebody's checking account, and they're just moving it from there and giving it to the government to spend.
01:27:57.000 But now, the government can never get enough money in that fashion.
01:28:00.000 They always need more, more, more.
01:28:03.000 And that's where the Federal Reserve System comes in.
01:28:06.000 So let's just imagine that the Treasury official goes to the Federal Reserve Office and he says, well, I need money today.
01:28:15.000 And the Federal Reserve Officer says, well, come in, sir.
01:28:19.000 Sit down.
01:28:20.000 We've been expecting you.
01:28:21.000 How much money do you need today?
01:28:23.000 And he says, well, how about a billion dollars?
01:28:26.000 And now, the Federal Reserve Officer pulls out that big black check and he writes a check for a billion dollars, and lo and behold, that money didn't exist until he wrote that check.
01:28:35.000 Stay there.
01:28:35.000 We're going to break.
01:28:36.000 We'll come back and continue with this, and then take some calls.
01:28:39.000 Stay with us, folks.
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01:32:05.000 They'd lose too much money.
01:32:08.000 My friends, they print the money.
01:32:10.000 They set it up to consolidate wealth and actual property.
01:32:14.000 And it's about owning the media and controlling the mindset of the people and controlling the population as a military tool, as an industrial tool to invade other nations and expand the empire.
01:32:26.000 We're talking to G. Edward Griffin.
01:32:27.000 And, sir, tell folks about your website and how people get a copy of the book.
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01:33:13.000 I want to go to some calls.
01:33:15.000 We could spend 10 hours on this, but just focusing it down, boiling it down, how this scam works, and then who ends up being left with a bag And now what the Federal Reserve has done to America in the course of the last 80 years since they've had control.
01:33:35.000 Right.
01:33:36.000 Well, I guess we should finish off that little discussion about the Mandrake mechanism.
01:33:41.000 We've pictured the Treasury official going to the Federal Reserve and asking for a billion dollars.
01:33:47.000 And the Treasury, or rather the Federal Reserve officer says, well, here's your billion dollars.
01:33:52.000 And he writes a check for it.
01:33:53.000 but the funny thing is that that checkbook that he used to write the check didn't have any money in an account behind it.
01:34:00.000 That money was actually created out of thin air when they advanced that money to the federal government.
01:34:05.000 They call that monetizing the debt.
01:34:08.000 They convert the government debt into money.
01:34:12.000 And so now the Federal Reserve has this money, and we can see instantly why the politicians are in the partnership, because that means that under any circumstance, They can always go to their partner, the Federal Reserve System, and get more money without having to market it to the public, without having to sell bonds to the institutions or anything.
01:34:32.000 They can say, we need more money, and zingo, they've got it, it's by agreement, they will automatically get it.
01:34:37.000 But then that bases your economy on fiat and manipulation, and then when the bankers want to, they can plunge the dollar They can control the economy, they can have insider trading, and it gives them total power because the Federal Reserve can also make its own money and buy whatever it wants with it.
01:34:57.000 Well, the Federal Reserve technically can do that, I suppose, but that's really not its function, Alex.
01:35:04.000 Its function is to take care of its partner, the federal government, as I just described, but now that's not where the Fed makes its money.
01:35:11.000 The interest on that money to the federal government is used to run the Federal Reserve System, and if there's any surplus left over, which there always is, it's very ceremoniously returned back to the federal government as an act of great charity.
01:35:26.000 And it's true that they actually do return all the money that they don't use to run the system.
01:35:31.000 And that's not where the action is.
01:35:33.000 The real action now is on the other side, where the bankers are in this partnership.
01:35:37.000 So let's follow that billion dollars that they just created for the federal government.
01:35:42.000 That was just sort of a little duty they had to do to keep the partnership alive.
01:35:45.000 They get to loan it out ten times what they even created.
01:35:48.000 Exactly.
01:35:49.000 Now, the federal government has this money.
01:35:51.000 What does it do?
01:35:52.000 Let's just take a thousand dollars as an example that they pay to the postal worker.
01:35:56.000 And now the postal worker takes that $1,000 and deposits it into his commercial bank down at the end of the street.
01:36:04.000 Now it's into the banking system, and we follow this money now, and this is where it really gets interesting.
01:36:09.000 The bank can take that $1,000 deposited from the postal worker and loan out up to additional $9,000 on it.
01:36:21.000 And that money is created out of thin air.
01:36:23.000 In other words, if you went to the bank And you said, I want to borrow $9,000 for a car.
01:36:29.000 The bank creates the money and lends it to you based on the $1,000 deposited by the postal worker.
01:36:37.000 Now, they keep the $1,000 in the bank, or at least on their books, as an asset.
01:36:41.000 It's shown there as an asset.
01:36:43.000 And on the basis of that asset, they can create an additional nine.
01:36:48.000 For everyone.
01:36:49.000 So that $9,000 that they loaned to you was literally created out of thin air for the loan.
01:36:56.000 Now they collect interest on nothing, in other words.
01:37:00.000 That's a pretty good deal.
01:37:01.000 Now you can see why the bankers are on it.
01:37:02.000 They don't collect interest on $9,000 because they didn't have $9,000.
01:37:08.000 They collect interest on $9,000 that they created.
01:37:12.000 And then they're able, after they loan out that $9,000 off the $1,000, or a total of $10,000 now, Then that's counted in banks other places and then they're able to ten times that or nine times that and then when people don't pay, they get the houses, they get the buildings, they get the institutions, they get it all.
01:37:31.000 Yeah, they do collateralize most of their loans.
01:37:34.000 They have some unsecured loans, of course, which they collect higher interest on that because of the supposedly higher risk.
01:37:41.000 But again, it's all made out of nothing and they create this fiat system and then now You know, Alan Greenspan comes out and chastises why it's your fault, Congress, you did this, but they're all in it together.
01:37:53.000 And then they criticize the American people and, oh, you're going to pay for shipping the jobs overseas when they're the ones that have been pushing it all along.
01:38:00.000 What's the master plan, what they're doing with the Union of American States and the EU and now the Euro and then the dollar down by 45 percent?
01:38:10.000 What does all this mean?
01:38:11.000 Why are they doing this?
01:38:12.000 Well, that's the big question of the day, is it not?
01:38:16.000 My observation is that when this whole system started back at the turn of the century, the primary motive among these people was just money, profit, and power.
01:38:28.000 But with the passage of each generation, we find more and more of a political or an ideological orientation among these people.
01:38:36.000 Yeah, they get inbred, they get nuttier and nuttier.
01:38:39.000 It's like Caligula has Nero and he's ten times crazier.
01:38:44.000 That's sort of the way I see it, too.
01:38:46.000 But their vision now is world government with themselves in control behind the scenes, using money power as one of the most important leverages.
01:38:54.000 And getting rid of most of the population, and forced drugging, and total nightmare police state.
01:38:59.000 They're openly setting it up.
01:39:00.000 I mean, let me just ask you, Jim McGriffin, expert on terrorism.
01:39:03.000 I mean, you've been in a bunch of films and books.
01:39:05.000 You're really an expert.
01:39:06.000 New Freedom Initiative, forced psychological testing.
01:39:09.000 They passed that baby.
01:39:10.000 We already know we have national ID cards with the driver's license.
01:39:13.000 Now they're trying to formalize it and make it law.
01:39:16.000 Face scanning cameras going up everywhere.
01:39:17.000 License plate scanning cameras.
01:39:19.000 Four-way stops in the middle of nowhere.
01:39:23.000 Secret arrest.
01:39:24.000 I mean, we really are becoming a Soviet-slash-Nazi-type state.
01:39:27.000 Your comments on that?
01:39:29.000 Well, what can I say except that we've been conquered by our own people.
01:39:33.000 People within our own ranks.
01:39:35.000 They look like us.
01:39:36.000 They talk like us.
01:39:37.000 They're born in our country.
01:39:39.000 But the enemy has conquered us.
01:39:41.000 That's called tyranny.
01:39:42.000 I mean, that's the norm in history.
01:39:44.000 And they're telling us now, we're basically their slaves, but it's for your own good.
01:39:49.000 Of course.
01:39:50.000 That's the underlying philosophy of collectivism.
01:39:53.000 These people, I think we need to identify what is their ideology, and they're collectivists.
01:39:58.000 Collectivism is what we're facing.
01:39:59.000 But they hold the strings.
01:40:01.000 They collect us into one group of slaves and then sit on top of us.
01:40:04.000 Yes, and they say, as you mentioned, it's for our own good.
01:40:07.000 It's for the greater good of the greater number, that's their view, and therefore whatever needs to be done for our own good, then let's do it.
01:40:14.000 If that means that we sit back and let the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor so that we can have a justification for getting into World War II, well, too bad about those 2,000 Americans that lost their lives in the attack.
01:40:26.000 It was for the greater good of the nation.
01:40:28.000 And the same philosophy can be applied to the war on terrorism.
01:40:32.000 It's too bad about those several thousand people who lost their lives in that terrorist attack, but look at the good that came out of it for the benefit of the nation or for the benefit of mankind.
01:40:42.000 Now we can move forward to establishing American dominance in the Middle East.
01:40:48.000 We can keep control of the oil reserves of the world away from those nasty Let me give you an example.
01:40:54.000 on the other side of the world, yeah, they don't call themselves that anymore, but they're still there.
01:40:59.000 The same heads are under those hats.
01:41:00.000 They changed the hats, but the same heads are there. - Well, let me give you an example.
01:41:04.000 W-O-A-I television out of, owned by Clear Channel, by the way, not, you know, I mean, as neocon as it gets, but they even had to admit two-thirds plus of Texas foster children are on psychotropic drugs, and some of them are on 17 but they even had to admit two-thirds plus of Texas foster children They're dying on these.
01:41:25.000 So that's obviously insane, having two-thirds of children on drugs.
01:41:29.000 Now under New Freedom, they're going to say they're going to put half the children In America, period, on drugs.
01:41:35.000 That's in their own internal documents.
01:41:36.000 I mean, that's obviously nuts.
01:41:38.000 I mean, it's just totally un-American, totally dehumanizing to say half the kids will have to go on drugs forcibly.
01:41:44.000 That's like Brave New World.
01:41:46.000 But that shows that the establishment's view is totally different than that of just common sense and humanity.
01:41:53.000 Satellite trackers to be put in cars to tax and trace us.
01:41:59.000 All of it's happening, G. Everett Griffin.
01:42:01.000 I mean, it's all happening right now.
01:42:03.000 Well, yeah, it's happening according to a master plan that was laid out starting roughly at the turn of the century to convert the whole world into a collectivist system.
01:42:14.000 And in fact, anybody that wants the history on this and they want to read the words of the people themselves who were devising this plan, I have created a series of essays which are downloadable free from our website.
01:42:26.000 Not the one I mentioned before, but from another one.
01:42:28.000 We have an organization called Freedom Force International.
01:42:32.000 And if anybody is interested in this history, I urge them to come to freedomforceinternational.org and go to a section on the site called The Issues.
01:42:43.000 And then drill down to a series of essays called, The Future is Calling.
01:42:48.000 And in those essays you'll find all of the documentation, all of the history, all of the words of the people themselves talking about collectivism versus individualism.
01:42:57.000 And by the way, the elites, they're not into the bird watching, they're not into camping, they're not into woodwork, like normal people are for hobbies.
01:43:07.000 They're a whole world!
01:43:09.000 Their own documents, just controlling and dominating and manipulating populations.
01:43:14.000 They hate it you've got cars.
01:43:16.000 They hate it you've got swimming pools.
01:43:18.000 They hate it you're able to be self-sufficient, not under their control.
01:43:22.000 They hate it you're allowed to have children.
01:43:23.000 They're dirty, dark, wicked people who are totally inbred and are sadistic and they want you to be their slaves.
01:43:32.000 Well, yes, I can't really disagree with it from our point of view, Alex, but the one point I want to make is that these people themselves do not think of themselves as evil.
01:43:42.000 They do not think that they're dark.
01:43:43.000 They really think that they're doing what is best for mankind, and that's the dangerous part.
01:43:48.000 They are sure that their children and their grandchildren are going to sing their praises.
01:43:52.000 And everything they do, no matter how objectionable it may seem to you or to me, in their mind is a necessary step toward the creation of a new world order which, in their vision, is going to be wonderful.
01:44:06.000 So, I have to disagree at that one point.
01:44:09.000 They don't think of themselves as evil at all.
01:44:12.000 They think that they're the only ethical and moral people in the world.
01:44:14.000 Well, to be clear, I'm saying they're evil.
01:44:16.000 Absolutely.
01:44:17.000 I mean, obviously, these delusional fruitcakes Uh, make little psychological excuses for what they do.
01:44:25.000 Yeah, well, this is a pretty large psychological excuse that's embraced by a large segment of the American public.
01:44:31.000 Even the victims go along with these arguments.
01:44:34.000 All you've got to do is tell them, well, you've got to give up your liberties because it's necessary for your security, and they'll buy into that.
01:44:41.000 And we stop the terrorists by putting half the kids on drugs.
01:44:44.000 Yeah, of course, yeah.
01:44:45.000 "Turning your guns in, everything's going to be all right." So now the dollar's plunging, all this is happening, what do you see in the next two years economically? - Well, you know, I think that the best way to predict the future is to take a look backwards and see where we are on the path, and see where the path is heading.
01:45:06.000 But unless there are some major changes, which I don't perceive because the American people aren't really yet willing to make major changes, I still want to continue doing exactly what they're told to do.
01:45:16.000 So I see that we're going to continue to go just as we have been, which is an expansion of the monetary system.
01:45:23.000 More and more money flooding into the system to try and patch up the holes.
01:45:27.000 And finally, we'll come to a point where the system will either explode, It will go kaput, and we'll have a huge recession, or, and this is also likely at that point, these people will have so much power that they'll step in and prevent that from happening simply by making it impossible for people to move in any way except the way they're told.
01:45:49.000 They will be told, for example, that they cannot withdraw money from their bank.
01:45:53.000 They cannot spend this, this, or that.
01:45:56.000 They cannot earn more than this, this, or that.
01:45:58.000 In other words, they could prevent that from happening by And a lot of the yuppies will go along with that because they'll think this is how they hold on.
01:46:07.000 Oh, yeah, exactly.
01:46:09.000 So we're heading to one of those two places.
01:46:12.000 Either there's going to be a great...
01:46:14.000 Ron Paul says we're going to have a depression.
01:46:17.000 Well, either that or we're going into totalitarianism in the economy.
01:46:23.000 Well, obviously, we'll have the totalitarianism and they'll tell us the economy is great when it's not.
01:46:27.000 Let's take a call or two here.
01:46:29.000 Let's talk to David in California.
01:46:31.000 David, you're on the air with G. Ever Griffin.
01:46:32.000 Go ahead.
01:46:33.000 Hey, Mr. Griffin, how are you?
01:46:35.000 I'm fine.
01:46:36.000 Hey, I wanted to ask you briefly just about mortgages and your opinion with respect to Getting out from under a mortgage via notice and demand through the claim of fraud.
01:46:53.000 Well, I'll just say these systems are criminal, so no matter what argument you've got, they're still going to enforce their fraud on you through criminal force.
01:47:03.000 Do you ever grieve them?
01:47:05.000 Well, yeah, it's a real interesting question and it comes up more and more lately because there are so many programs out there being offered to eliminate mortgages and debts of other kinds as well.
01:47:15.000 And my take on it is that there are a couple of aspects that don't immediately pop to the surface.
01:47:21.000 One is that I think that the banks are in big trouble because their contracts probably have been written in a fraudulent manner.
01:47:27.000 They do not disclose properly to the customer that the money is being created out of nothing.
01:47:34.000 And that the basis for the loan is the credit of the customer.
01:47:38.000 And nothing comes from the bank except a service.
01:47:41.000 But still, even if it's fraudulent, they criminally enforce it.
01:47:44.000 True color of law.
01:47:45.000 They do enforce it, although there are a lot of instances today where the courts are upholding the claimant.
01:47:52.000 Now, but that brings up another issue.
01:47:55.000 If, let's just assume that a person has bought a $6,000 plasma TV set, and suddenly he sees one of these programs and he says, golly, I don't have to pay off this loan, I got my TV set, but the bank didn't do it right, and if I get an attorney or buy into one of these programs, we can prove that the bank has made a mistake, and they will cancel the loan.
01:48:14.000 Now let's just assume that that's successful, because it is being successful in some cases.
01:48:20.000 Now, the question is that, okay, now I got my plasma TV set, and I didn't pay for it.
01:48:25.000 Who paid for it?
01:48:26.000 That's a question nobody wants to look at.
01:48:29.000 They're totally focused on getting out of the debt, which I can understand.
01:48:32.000 But the point is, if a debt is written off, for whatever reason, someone had to pay for that plasma TV set.
01:48:38.000 Now, the company that built it had already been paid money, so it wasn't them.
01:48:43.000 And it boils down to this, but when a loan is written off the books of a bank... Somebody's being defrauded.
01:48:50.000 Somebody's being defrauded.
01:48:51.000 Now the first layer would be the... So ask yourself, does that Circuit City deserve for you, you went in and bought it, you went in and did the loan, is it moral for you to rip them off?
01:49:02.000 They didn't do anything wrong.
01:49:03.000 Well, Circuit City got paid.
01:49:06.000 So, who wound up being ripped off?
01:49:07.000 And the answer is, it's the stockholders of the bank, because the assets of the bank have to be reduced.
01:49:13.000 And they're a bunch of criminals, so... Well, I don't know.
01:49:15.000 My aunt is a stockholder at a bank, and a lot of people... Well, I mean the board, the people who run it.
01:49:20.000 Ah, the board.
01:49:20.000 We're not talking about the board.
01:49:22.000 It's the stockholders who pay.
01:49:23.000 And I say that it's not proper to rip off them either.
01:49:26.000 I agree.
01:49:27.000 It's not proper to rip off anybody.
01:49:29.000 Yeah, I mean, it's immoral on both sides.
01:49:33.000 I mean, clearly, if a bank comes in, accelerates your note, tries to steal your house because you haven't paid a couple of payments, that's wrong.
01:49:41.000 Do whatever you can to defend yourself.
01:49:42.000 But just to do it out of the blue... Well, we'll talk about it when we get back.
01:49:46.000 It's an interesting question, Nicola.
01:49:47.000 Thank you.
01:49:48.000 More calls coming up.
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01:52:56.000 It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
01:53:02.000 You ought to be clear about what I was saying.
01:53:04.000 I'm not saying that the shareholders of banks themselves are criminals, because a lot of people, you know, own mutual funds and stuff that own bank stocks.
01:53:12.000 Millions of Americans.
01:53:13.000 But what I'm saying is the enterprise itself, I will say, the way banks operate is a fraud, and is criminal according to our Constitution.
01:53:22.000 Well, I think you pinpointed it right there.
01:53:24.000 We're not talking about the stockholders.
01:53:25.000 I've got a guest coming up in 10 minutes.
01:53:27.000 I want to keep you five minutes to the next hour to take a few more calls if you can before we get the guest on and try to get some of these out of the way.
01:53:33.000 But finish up what you were saying about people writing off debts.
01:53:37.000 Well, I think you've pinpointed it right there that, yeah, we're not talking about the stockholders.
01:53:41.000 They're innocent, except to the extent that they should perhaps be more careful of what they invest in.
01:53:47.000 You talk about socially conscious investing.
01:53:50.000 Nobody wants to invest in a gold mine in South Africa, for example, if they feel that there is apartheid in South Africa.
01:53:57.000 How about investing in a bank when it's so unconstitutional and what they're doing is ripping so many people off?
01:54:04.000 I mean, I could have invested in biometrics five years ago.
01:54:08.000 I told people if you're immoral, do it.
01:54:10.000 And those stocks have tripled and quadrupled, everything else going down.
01:54:13.000 But I didn't go invest in it because I'm not a sociopath.
01:54:16.000 Yeah, I would never invest in a bank for that reason.
01:54:19.000 However, I have to admit that most people don't, you know, they're not aware of this.
01:54:22.000 And so you can't really blame them.
01:54:24.000 But once they have the information, now that's another thing.
01:54:27.000 But the other aspect of this is that the banks themselves usually don't wind up on the line too much because if a bank should be threatened because of this kind of thing, they'll pass it on to the taxpayer.
01:54:40.000 Now, banks are always getting bailed out.
01:54:42.000 Let's take another call here.
01:54:44.000 Let's talk to Rick in New York.
01:54:45.000 Rick, you're on the air.
01:54:46.000 Go ahead.
01:54:47.000 Yeah, I wanted to get back to the Federal Reserve.
01:54:49.000 What do you call it?
01:54:54.000 Oh, getting back to the aspect of when they had the... There has been too much legislation on the Federal Reserve in the last 40 or 50 years.
01:55:03.000 I remember reading in John McManus' book, Financial Terrorism, that Philip Crane tried to audit the Federal Reserve, I think, back in the 70s.
01:55:13.000 And, of course, Ron Paul's obsoletion from last year.
01:55:16.000 But I think that's a problem, you know, because I guess the politicians are so intimately connected to the Federal Reserve banks.
01:55:23.000 Let me get a comment from our guest.
01:55:27.000 There has not been much activity on the Federal Reserve to my knowledge in many years because it's all been done.
01:55:33.000 They got everything that they want now.
01:55:34.000 They have the ability to extend the reserve ratios.
01:55:39.000 It's now averaging around 10 to 1.
01:55:42.000 Anytime they decide to, they can extend that to 21, or 30 to 1, or 100 to 1, or take all ratios off completely.
01:55:50.000 The problem is that causes inflation, and the dollar continues to drop.
01:55:54.000 Yeah, inflation is a hidden tax.
01:55:56.000 And so the Federal Reserve becomes the instrument by which the government can tax everybody at an unlimited rate.
01:56:02.000 Yeah, we're about to break.
01:56:04.000 I want to thank Rick for that quick call.
01:56:05.000 We'll come back and take a few more.
01:56:07.000 But, Jim McGriffin, I wanted to get your take on this, because I know you're out in California.
01:56:10.000 Clearly the agenda is going full-press boogie to get Arnold A. Lowe Schwarzenegger into the White House to be this international figurehead for Empire.
01:56:19.000 A lot of people don't get it yet that this is really happening.
01:56:23.000 I mean, I see it happening if we don't stop it.
01:56:25.000 Any comments on that?
01:56:26.000 Well, all I can say is I agree with you, and it should cause people to wonder why they want Schwarzenegger.
01:56:32.000 And obviously, if anybody's seen the pictures of Schwarzenegger hobnobbing with the Rothschilds long before he ran for governor, they would know that he was accepted by that inner circle that we're talking about, and he's their man.
01:56:47.000 And he's a very popular figure, so they figure, well, he's just another puppet they can put up there, and he'll be very useful.
01:56:53.000 He has so much dirt on him, too.
01:56:54.000 Anytime they want to crush him, they can, so that's why they love him.
01:56:58.000 Yeah, they love all of the politicians that they have dirt on them.
01:57:02.000 And they don't really care, as long as they get votes.
01:57:04.000 And if Schwarzenegger should be popular, they'll support him and use him, and then should he fall, they'll say, okay, next.
01:57:11.000 You know, politicians are very dispensable in this game.
01:57:16.000 Well, you know, I've started a national movement against it.
01:57:20.000 ArnoldExposed.com.
01:57:23.000 G. Edward Griffin, I hope you like it.
01:57:26.000 I'll have to look at it myself.
01:57:28.000 We're going to try to terminate the Terminator's plans to be president.
01:57:32.000 Just five more minutes on the other side, then we've got folks coming on about forced drugging of the children.
01:57:38.000 Make a few more calls on the other side, so everybody stay with us.
01:57:42.000 Big Brother.
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01:58:09.000 The Association of Physicians and Surgeons, the second biggest organization of doctors in the United States, who We've had on before, their head spokesperson, Catherine Sirks, is going to be joining us to talk about the passage of the New Freedom Initiative, the nightmare forced psychological testing right out of Brave New World.
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01:58:36.000 We're finishing up with G. Edward Griffin, author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, concerning the Federal Reserve, talking about the rulers that are doing all this to us.
01:58:45.000 We'll take two more calls for him, then we'll go to Bright and come back with our next guest.
01:58:48.000 Richard in Alabama, then Ken in New York.
01:58:50.000 That'll be all we have time for with this guest.
01:58:53.000 Richard, go ahead.
01:58:54.000 Mr. Griffin, please explain as best as you can the relationship between the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund, and Substitute Collateral and the jurisdictional claim of the International Commercial Contract Venue, sometimes known as Vice Admiralty.
01:59:14.000 Well, we need about an hour for that, and I don't think that I've got the expertise on that last issue anyway, but I can certainly handle the first two.
01:59:24.000 The United Nations is the structure that the collectivists that we've been talking about, they're hoping that this will become the framework for the New World Order that the universal government Yes, exactly.
01:59:38.000 It's the embodiment of international collectivism.
01:59:40.000 It's the ultimate.
01:59:41.000 one-child policy taking countries into receivership yes exactly and it's just the it's the embodiment of international collectivism it's the ultimate once they build that then they've got the whole planet under their control and it
01:59:56.000 Once you see what's being done, and once you read the words of these people who started the motion going years ago, which I was referring to earlier, you can see the blueprint, you can see how they're building the structure, you know, brick by brick, and all questions become very, you know, they're answered and very clear.
02:00:12.000 All right, Richard, thanks for the call.
02:00:14.000 Ken in New York.
02:00:15.000 Go ahead, Ken.
02:00:18.000 Dr. Griffin.
02:00:20.000 When the Federal Reserve Act passed in 1913, was there a legal challenge as to its constitutionality?
02:00:27.000 Not a legal challenge, no.
02:00:28.000 There were voices, congressional voices, and there were, you know, people in the media and a lot of critics out there that challenged it, but not legally.
02:00:38.000 It was never challenged in the courts, to my knowledge.
02:00:41.000 And secondly, Alex asked you before about the New World Order and the EU and The plunging dollar and everything, and I just wanted to get it clarified.
02:00:51.000 When you answered him, you said that when the Federal Reserve was first created, it was mainly to consolidate that wealth and power of the people behind the creation of the Act.
02:01:00.000 And then it evolved into like a world government intervention?
02:01:04.000 No, clearly with Cecil Rhodes and all of it, the world government was the plan all along, but I mean now it's actually grown into the dream.
02:01:11.000 But go ahead, let's get his comment.
02:01:13.000 Yeah, well I think Alex has said it quite well.
02:01:15.000 There was always a mixture of motives.
02:01:17.000 And what I'm saying is that my opinion is that in the beginning, the stronger of the motives, uh... was the desire for consolidation of wealth and uh... yeah they had to take over the engine first america to be the engine a central engine for global domination once the engine was uh... was uh... uh... you know being tapped into and then they went into the next phase yes remember that the council on foreign relations was created to primarily through the influence of J.P.
02:01:44.000 Morgan in 22 yeah and so Morgan had an ideological Of course, when he died, it turned out he was basically a Bank of England frontman.
02:01:51.000 It's like with New Coast Oil and all that.
02:01:53.000 primary motivation was economic power.
02:01:56.000 But today... - Of course, when he died, it turned out he was basically a Bank of England front man.
02:02:00.000 - Yeah, oh yeah, he was always a... - It's like with Yukos Oil and all that, it turns out Lord Rothschild owns it.
02:02:05.000 - Yeah, he was a Rothschild agent all along.
02:02:07.000 And, but in any event, the people today, they were born into such great wealth and power that that no longer excites them, I don't think.
02:02:15.000 I think what excites them now is the global power.
02:02:18.000 It's like Arnold told U.S.
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02:02:23.000 95% of you, you know, I want to rule you.
02:02:26.000 I'm going to rule you.
02:02:27.000 Yes, and don't forget, they're going to rule us for our own good.
02:02:29.000 That's right.
02:02:30.000 G. Eber-Griffin, thank you so much for joining us.
02:02:32.000 All right, thank you.
02:02:33.000 It's a pleasure.
02:02:34.000 You bet.
02:02:35.000 I really appreciate you coming on with us and God bless.
02:02:38.000 Thank you.
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02:06:17.000 Catherine Search is the public relations and head spokesperson for Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
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02:06:32.000 And we've got some of their press releases and information posted right now on infowars.com, prisonplanet.com and prisonplanet.tv.
02:06:43.000 There's no way to overstress how bad this is.
02:06:46.000 We've been covering it for Years here, the last six months since we learned the new name for it.
02:06:51.000 It's been known as TMAP in Texas, but now it's in ten states, now to be nationwide by law.
02:06:57.000 And four psychological testing twice a year of every child in the country.
02:07:01.000 And their own internal documents say, well we've got fifteen percent of the kids on drugs, but now we think we can get half of them on it with this.
02:07:09.000 Some of their own people quit and went public and Again, WOAI in Texas has reported two-thirds of foster children on psychotropics and other type drugs.
02:07:20.000 Some children on as many as 17 drugs.
02:07:22.000 A lot of deaths are caused by this, but when they kill the children, they're the establishment.
02:07:26.000 It's just swept under the rug.
02:07:29.000 So, joining us from Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, Is Catherine Sirks.
02:07:35.000 Catherine, great to have you on with us.
02:07:37.000 Yeah, Alex, I love coming on the show, but unfortunately, it's usually when I'm the bearer of bad tidings.
02:07:42.000 Yeah, when they're arresting people that criticize the government, saying no trial, we're going to force drug you for seven years, or when...
02:07:52.000 Yeah, just all this fun stuff.
02:07:54.000 This passed, and some people are still in denial about this, but tell us all about it.
02:07:59.000 Well, let me start out and explain what the bill does and what it doesn't do, so we're clear.
02:08:04.000 Because we're being told by people who are supporting it that we've got it all wrong.
02:08:08.000 So let's make sure we're real clear.
02:08:09.000 Well, we've had Ron Paul on.
02:08:11.000 We've read the bill on air.
02:08:12.000 There we go.
02:08:13.000 And so what we're pointing to is that it funds the states For universal mental health screening of children and pregnant women in particular.
02:08:23.000 So, a CPS visit to the pregnant women.
02:08:26.000 Oh, that's already happening.
02:08:27.000 So the first-time mother has these people who get money for grabbing kids and putting people on drugs, preying on them, day one, trying to get them to sign documents like they were a criminal to get into their system.
02:08:38.000 There you go.
02:08:39.000 And what we've already seen this past, as you mentioned, we've seen it past in Illinois and other states, We've been, the critics, the supporters of this have been saying, oh, it's not mandatory, mental health screening, it's not mandatory.
02:08:55.000 So what we're saying is, as you've heard from Dr. Paul, saying, okay, if it's not mandatory, then let's pass a provision, a specific provision, that says parental consent.
02:09:05.000 must be obtained.
02:09:06.000 Informed parental consent before any screening or screening.
02:09:10.000 Yeah, the bill just said, okay, I mean, you gotta get parental consent for your ten-year-old to go to the zoo or the planetarium or the National History Museum, then you gotta give me parental consent before you stick my kid with a psychologist for eight hours and ask him, are you upset?
02:09:24.000 Oh, you need drugs then.
02:09:25.000 That's exactly right.
02:09:26.000 And they said, no, we're not going to do that because it is forced.
02:09:29.000 And we have seen how children who have been tracked into special ed maybe by mistake, never can get over that stigma and never get out of that channel, and we don't want the same thing to happen here.
02:09:41.000 I mean, the consent issue is just so basic.
02:09:46.000 So that's basically where we're at.
02:09:49.000 Again, a person they catch with a dead body in their backyard still has their Fifth Amendment, but they're going to claim, no, your child has to sit for this and your pregnant women have to, and then it says jobs, you'll have your psychologist come in and ask you questions, and, oh, are you you'll have your psychologist come in and ask you questions, and, oh, Are you upset?
02:10:09.000 Oh, you've got to go on drugs by law.
02:10:11.000 Well, let me explain where the universal comes in so that everybody can answer these arguments.
02:10:18.000 What they talk about is that they're worried about children at risk.
02:10:22.000 And of course, common sense tells us, okay, well that does make sense.
02:10:25.000 But that's a code word.
02:10:26.000 If they can't get us on welfare, or they can't get us into their system somehow, they're going to do this forcibly.
02:10:32.000 Well, there are two ways to decide.
02:10:34.000 Number one, what's their definition of at risk?
02:10:36.000 And number two, there are two ways to decide, to look at a child and decide if they're at risk.
02:10:41.000 Well, a child's at risk and their clutch is the most dangerous place to be.
02:10:45.000 Well, you can either observe the child's behavior and see if he's doing something that looks like there's a serious problem, or you have to sit him down and do the screening.
02:10:54.000 Well, the only way you can determine if the child fits the at-risk definition as you've defined it, then, is to sit down and screen everybody.
02:11:02.000 So there we're into the universal screening.
02:11:05.000 They've got to check everybody out.
02:11:07.000 And that's, I mean, I've talked to therapists who've explained this process.
02:11:10.000 The bottom line is that Ron Paul, who is a physician and a life-long member of our organization, will come back next session and introduce a stand-alone bill that would modify... He's an opposite person!
02:11:23.000 That's right!
02:11:25.000 And he is trying to get language that will modify this to require the parental consent.
02:11:30.000 So, even though we've lost this first skirmish, the battle is not over.
02:11:34.000 Well, yeah, I mean, that's like when Bush tried to give Eli Lilly total blanket vaccine protection for all vaccines in the Homeland Security bill.
02:11:43.000 Homeland Security, yes.
02:11:44.000 Yeah, we went back and got that removed, so.
02:11:47.000 And look, let's see him try to carry this out.
02:11:50.000 Because I've talked to Ron Paul, I've talked to others.
02:11:52.000 The way this is set up with the bureaucrats and the actual plan that's now been funded, stuff outside the bill, is homeschoolers, private schoolers, twice a year folks, they're going to come grab your kid.
02:12:04.000 And this is gonna happen, and come hell or high water, we gotta say no to this.
02:12:10.000 Yeah, and there'll be a couple of things that people can do as we're gathering steam now for the next session.
02:12:15.000 One is, there is a petition that for parents who want to say, they sign the petition and say, I will not allow my child to participate in the screening.
02:12:25.000 The second is, we'll have to generate small letters.
02:12:28.000 And I'll have the link to that petition.
02:12:30.000 Well, it's real simple.
02:12:31.000 Anybody does this in your school district, you sue them immediately.
02:12:35.000 Let's see how they like 100,000 lawsuits.
02:12:38.000 There you go.
02:12:39.000 Just slap them with the lawsuit.
02:12:42.000 But the problem is that, of course, you want to... If you slap them with the lawsuit, that's after the fact.
02:12:48.000 And what we're trying to do here is...
02:12:50.000 Well, let me tell you something, Catherine.
02:12:54.000 I know you probably know this.
02:12:55.000 This stuff's already going on.
02:12:57.000 Okay?
02:12:58.000 I mean, they were already... Look, they started this in Texas.
02:13:01.000 The news said 94.
02:13:02.000 No, that's not true.
02:13:04.000 In 1992... Okay, I'm only 30 years old.
02:13:09.000 Everybody at Anderson High School had this.
02:13:12.000 They hooked electrodes to my head.
02:13:15.000 They showed me ink blots.
02:13:17.000 And what they did is in a class every day they have these psychologists and they come in for like a month, it took them a month to do it, and it'd be your day.
02:13:25.000 And so for like half a day, two days in a row, you wouldn't be in classes.
02:13:29.000 You'd be off in a side conference room or whatever and they'd have these partitions and there'd be all these other young people there and they were doing all this.
02:13:38.000 Well, Alex, maybe they had you spotted very, very early.
02:13:40.000 Well, no, no.
02:13:41.000 I mean, it was Anderson High School.
02:13:45.000 That was here in Austin.
02:13:46.000 I mean, it was everybody.
02:13:47.000 It wasn't just me.
02:13:48.000 It was the whole school.
02:13:50.000 I'm sorry.
02:13:51.000 I've not even heard that.
02:13:52.000 We're concerned that the... I want to give everybody a little bit of history.
02:13:56.000 I don't know if you've talked about this in previous shows, but really the origins of this new Freedom Commission's recommendations go back to Jimmy Carter.
02:14:05.000 They go back to the Carter Commission on Mental Health that issued its findings in 1977.
02:14:10.000 And then it got cranked up in TMAP in Texas.
02:14:13.000 But this is my point though.
02:14:15.000 The news started in 94, 95 in Texas.
02:14:19.000 They admit this current plan started in Texas, TMAP.
02:14:22.000 And what I'm telling you is, is they were doing this in 1992.
02:14:26.000 Without the enabling legislation.
02:14:28.000 Yeah, and then they told you it was a psychological test, but also to tell you what you'd be best at in a job career.
02:14:34.000 So as part of Goals 2002, you know, the Soviet model of telling you what you should be.
02:14:40.000 Well, we've seen this happen.
02:14:42.000 President Reagan actually was able to overturn much of the Carter Commission's work in 1981.
02:14:47.000 Then, here's another...
02:14:50.000 Bush is signed back on to all of it, though, under UNESCO.
02:14:52.000 Well, here's part of it.
02:14:54.000 There's some funny goings-on with this new Freedom Commission that I don't think President Bush intended.
02:15:01.000 And what happened is that David Thatcher, the Surgeon General under President Clinton, issued a report that's considered a landmark report in 1999 that talked about anybody who's mentally ill that the target should be recovery, not just functioning.
02:15:16.000 And so it's like saying every psychotic, every person who has any kind of mental illness, the goal should be bring them back to full recovery.
02:15:24.000 Well, that's just not, that's a utopian approach that can't happen.
02:15:30.000 But they seized on to that report.
02:15:31.000 Now here's how the new Freedom Commission came about.
02:15:34.000 When President Bush appointed it, the idea was to get the real stakeholders, doctors, patients, their families, rather than the policy wonks.
02:15:43.000 And the usual suspects that grind out this junk out of Washington, D.C.
02:15:48.000 So that intention was good, but then what they did was to help run the commission, they brought in eight ex-officio members who had some ties back to the Carter Commission.
02:15:59.000 So they kept trotting through their experts... Well, they've had people inside it go public and say it was all written up by Big Pharma.
02:16:06.000 Exactly!
02:16:06.000 So they brought in the people who were the special interests to nudge these people, and the commission ended up going much further Much, much further.
02:16:15.000 I think the President, in fact, got probably a very rude surprise when the Commission came out with its findings and its recommendations.
02:16:21.000 I know that the Alliance for Human Research Protection has done a really good job of tracking the special interest money and the links and who is supporting this.
02:16:38.000 I mean, it makes sense.
02:16:40.000 You don't need to see the smoking gun, smoking documents.
02:16:45.000 Your common sense tells you who you're going to benefit from.
02:16:48.000 They've had government officials in Pennsylvania and other places as part of the program go public and say it's designed to put half the children on drugs.
02:16:56.000 I mean, we've got in Texas two-thirds plus of foster children on these drugs.
02:17:00.000 Yeah, and we also know that the government's own findings, the government's own task force, found that mental health screening did very little to prevent suicide.
02:17:10.000 Then you pile in that, that the mental health screening doesn't prevent suicide, plus the fact that the mental health screening may end up being more coercive for parents ...to put their children on medication that sometimes has a serious side effect... Well, every week we hear of somebody having their children grabbed because they won't put them on Prozac.
02:17:27.000 I mean, they're already doing that.
02:17:29.000 So stay there, Catherine Searks.
02:17:31.000 We appreciate you joining us.
02:17:33.000 She's the spokesperson for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
02:17:37.000 Come back, talk more to her, and talk about how to hopefully defeat this in the next session of Congress.
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02:21:52.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:21:55.000 Welcome back, my friends.
02:22:05.000 Thank you.
02:22:09.000 Well into the third hour now.
02:22:11.000 We're honored to be joined by Kathryn Searks, again, one of the spokespersons, spokes-individuals for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons we've had on before.
02:22:20.000 Kathryn, so they passed the New Freedom Initiative.
02:22:24.000 You talk about coercion, they're already grabbing people who won't drug their children with drugs that are admittedly more dangerous than Vioxx.
02:22:32.000 Why don't they pull these other drugs with all the dangers if they're admittedly cause worse side effects than Vioxx?
02:22:39.000 Any comments to that?
02:22:41.000 Yeah, actually we do have a position on that and that is that many of those drugs and the antidepressants and other drugs that you're talking about do have Some beneficial applications.
02:22:53.000 And that this should not be a witch hunt against the pharmaceutical companies or a specific drug.
02:23:00.000 The problem enters in with the children when there is a mandatory element.
02:23:06.000 Just as we've talked about vaccines.
02:23:07.000 Vaccines can and do save lives.
02:23:10.000 But it must be a decision between physician and parent whether and when and if to medicate a child.
02:23:17.000 Not a school district or a state program.
02:23:21.000 You're not in a free society when you don't have a choice.
02:23:25.000 Exactly.
02:23:26.000 And that it must always be a choice.
02:23:30.000 The other medical issue for us is that one of the reasons that we have also opposed mental health parity bills in Congress and at the state level is because mental health diagnosis is so much more subjective. - Well, they create like 100 new illnesses a year written up by the drug companies to market new things.
02:23:51.000 - Well, I have come to find out in the past few months that apparently I have adult ADHD.
02:23:56.000 Because if you read the ads for ADHD, I guess there weren't enough sales to children anymore that that was getting a tougher sell.
02:24:03.000 Well, they have a Prozac-type pill for women for their menstrual cycle.
02:24:09.000 How did women get along without drugs 100 years ago?
02:24:12.000 Well, the ADHD ad that got me was said, do you sometimes have trouble concentrating when you're doing 87 things at once?
02:24:19.000 Um, you know, does your mind wander occasionally during the day?
02:24:23.000 Well, yeah.
02:24:24.000 You know, all of these things happen to me.
02:24:26.000 I guess I have ADHD, so, uh, you know, that's, I think you're right on that area.
02:24:31.000 But there is such subjective, and in fact, our immediate past president is a psychiatrist, and our current president is a psychiatrist.
02:24:39.000 And so we have a wonderful resource on these issues and also our government relations, our government director in DC is a licensed therapist.
02:24:49.000 So we're not, you know, we're coming from this with experience.
02:24:53.000 I'm not saying that mental illness does not exist, it's just that when we get into government programs and mandates, It's too subjective for it to be left to government.
02:25:04.000 Clearly, 15% of the children in the country don't need to be on Prozac and Ritalin.
02:25:09.000 And clearly, we don't need to put more of them on it.
02:25:10.000 And clearly, two-thirds of foster children don't need it.
02:25:13.000 And clearly, they don't need 17 different drugs in one child.
02:25:18.000 Well, I know you look at, I think, the state of Massachusetts.
02:25:22.000 I remember seeing something about a year ago on the use of drugs on the children, medication of drugs on the state programs, and I think, my God, the average was something like seven medications per child.
02:25:36.000 I could be right off.
02:25:38.000 Yeah, same thing in Texas, Florida, Mass, Illinois.
02:25:41.000 I mean, it's a brave new world.
02:25:44.000 It was actually, you know, it was beyond alarming.
02:25:48.000 It was just staggering.
02:25:50.000 They said a lot of kids are on 17 different ones, and then when the drugs start making them have seizures, they put them on Depakote.
02:25:56.000 I mean, the kids start dying.
02:25:58.000 They go, oh, let's put you on more.
02:25:59.000 So, yeah.
02:26:01.000 So, that's why this is just so important.
02:26:05.000 This is not, you know, we're not against I'm trying to help children.
02:26:10.000 We're not against getting help to children who have mental problems.
02:26:14.000 It's a question of when we start throwing everybody into the hopper and trying to do cookie-cutter medicine through the schools, then we have a problem.
02:26:22.000 Well, the schools aren't supposed to be a mind control laboratory.
02:26:26.000 Well, it's the Willie Sutton approach to social policy, which is Willie Sutton robbed banks because that's where the money was.
02:26:35.000 This is the social approach that we go to the schools because that's where the children are.
02:26:40.000 And then you get them on drugs, they're four times more likely to use prescription or illegal drugs after that.
02:26:46.000 You're getting that market while they're young.
02:26:48.000 I know, and then they go out and complain, and then the government fires up law enforcement initiatives because the misuse of prescription drugs is up.
02:26:58.000 And then we get a battle victorian with one Uh, uh, Tylenol in her lunchbox, and they arrest her, lock down the school, and call a SWAT team.
02:27:11.000 Did you know about that?
02:27:12.000 Yes, and I mean, this is, the policy is so out of whack.
02:27:15.000 The bottom line is... I mean, the kids have literally got psychotropics that are hallucinogenic classes and amphetamine classes with Ritalin.
02:27:21.000 They're all gobbling, and the kid's got a Tylenol, and lock down the school!
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02:30:43.000 Now, I've just got a few more questions for you, and then I'm going to let you go, because I know you're busy, Hope you have a good holiday.
02:31:05.000 It's Thanksgiving.
02:31:10.000 So you think we can, if they get the millions of phone calls as they did this week and if there's enough pressure we can get parental consent put into there?
02:31:20.000 Do you think that could happen in the next session?
02:31:24.000 That's what's going to have to happen in the next session.
02:31:26.000 And also, I'm meeting with the National Association of State Legislators next week and trying to, at the Health and Human Services Task Force, sort of, Alec, and we'll talk about it at the state level and make sure that they get it.
02:31:41.000 I'd like to recommend there's a Go to our website later today and we'll have it posted to sign the petition.
02:31:51.000 We generated almost 7,000 letters to the Senate last week about this.
02:31:59.000 Now we need to, you know, we're going to have to put the heat on all over again and start in the house with the new session, but I think we can do it if we, as long as we stay on message and that we, that all we, we will just have to work on the parental consent.
02:32:13.000 We'll just have to hammer on that one element.
02:32:15.000 It's not the best of all worlds, but it's the best we can do now.
02:32:18.000 Well, that's the best you can do, sure, but, or try to get the whole thing repealed, but here's the problem.
02:32:25.000 Take vaccines.
02:32:26.000 There's no law that you have to be vaccinated, but Uh, and you have to have parental consent, but they put TV ads on, it's on the news everywhere, it's the law, better do it, you'll be arrested.
02:32:38.000 There is no law, it's just total fraud, uh, as you know, and, uh, people even try to, you know, opt out of it.
02:32:45.000 They say, oh, no, you can't, you have to go, no, I know you have that form on your desk.
02:32:49.000 So it looks like even if we get the parental consent, Passed through.
02:32:53.000 The bureaucrats want the federal money.
02:32:55.000 They'll just say, no, it's the law.
02:32:56.000 Shut up.
02:32:57.000 Well, yeah, unfortunately, it really puts a high level, you know, high, high, um, hoop for the parents to jump through as they have to do with vaccines.
02:33:06.000 Most states do have, uh, waivers for But they certainly don't tell you about those.
02:33:11.000 Yeah, you really have to push to get that waiver, whether a medical waiver or a personal reason waiver.
02:33:20.000 And we may see this, but these people have been hammering at this for years and years and years.
02:33:25.000 We've got to take it step by step.
02:33:27.000 I don't want everyone to be discouraged on this because we have to learn our lesson from what Pete Stark and all these other people have done who have slowly destroyed the medical system and consent and all these things in the country.
02:33:39.000 And that is they are willing to just keep coming at it step by step by salami step by salami slice.
02:33:46.000 And we need to be willing to fight back.
02:33:48.000 And instead of saying we've lost the whole battle, You know, forget it.
02:33:51.000 We can't do anything.
02:33:52.000 Oh, no.
02:33:52.000 I mean, I have clearly said, Catherine, that the real battle is educating people at the grassroots.
02:33:59.000 So the child comes home and goes, Mommy, Danny, the psychologist asked me questions and they... You know, you need to sue them at that point, but call your school and tell them, look, you're not going to put my child in front of some quack doctor who's reading off a script written by Big Pharma.
02:34:16.000 Do you understand?
02:34:18.000 You know, to do... Look, and a lot of these counselors, folks, they're trolling for CPS!
02:34:25.000 Your child is not to be talked to by anybody but their school teacher.
02:34:25.000 Let them know.
02:34:30.000 And you're to be called immediately.
02:34:32.000 You've got to have that on file.
02:34:33.000 You've got to let them know.
02:34:34.000 Have it on record.
02:34:36.000 Because then when they do it, and they're going to violate it, you are going to be able to sue the daylights out of them.
02:34:41.000 And I think that that's an excellent suggestion, Alex.
02:34:43.000 As we're working on the national legislation, that parents go to your schools, go to your PTA meetings, And get a provision in that says no mental health screening at our school.
02:34:54.000 And let your individual school and school district know where you stand on this.
02:34:58.000 Local level politics works.
02:35:01.000 While we're fighting the big battle in D.C., you can stop it at your school.
02:35:05.000 We can't go school by school, but you definitely can.
02:35:08.000 Well, you also lay a trap for them.
02:35:10.000 When you've got a registered letter on file with them, and then when they pull it, you are going to own them.
02:35:16.000 And get a meeting of parents that says if the PTA won't adopt a policy or if it won't adopt a provision on that, exactly have parent-print meetings.
02:35:25.000 Yeah, have a group.
02:35:28.000 Circulate a letter and I will post on our website later today a sample letter petition for parents to give to their schools to say I refuse to participate.
02:35:40.000 Have you seen Dr. Breeding's petition?
02:35:43.000 No, I have not.
02:35:43.000 What's that one?
02:35:44.000 He was, about six months ago, we lost it on the show.
02:35:47.000 He's got his own doing that.
02:35:49.000 There is, I just went blank on the name of the group, otherwise I'd give you the uh... the website uh... from the parent group uh... ablechild.org.
02:36:02.000 Yeah, we actually came up with that myself and Dr. Breeding.
02:36:04.000 Yeah, ablechild.org.
02:36:06.000 And what I suggest then is that we won't post what, just go to ablechild.org, take that petition, modify it into a letter for your school district And get your parents together, get your PTA, and say, we don't want this at our school.
02:36:19.000 It's that simple.
02:36:20.000 We don't want it at our school.
02:36:21.000 I mean, it's simple.
02:36:22.000 And this is how you argue it.
02:36:23.000 Look, these are schools.
02:36:24.000 These are not mental laboratories.
02:36:27.000 If my child was under criminal investigation, you would have to get parental consent.
02:36:34.000 to interview them we've got a fifth amendment and and and bring in the documents that are public that are labeled child and an info wars and and and and that we have where this is written by big pharma to put people who don't have any problems on drugs and bring that to your PTA bring it to your school board and just tell them and you know create an alliance in your area of parents
02:37:01.000 And then when they try it, folks, for your country, you need to sue them, and that'll back them up.
02:37:06.000 Because we're going to use the people who signed the petition at Able Child, we're going to use that as ammunition to go to Congress and say, look, parents are lining up against this.
02:37:15.000 So we use that grassroots to help us at the national level.
02:37:20.000 So it all works together, but that's... I mean, you really can't stop it at your school if you've band together with enough vocal, loud, Letigious parents!
02:37:31.000 I think you can stop this in the individual schools and school districts, and that is your front line.
02:37:36.000 Trust that, because even if we get something passed in Congress, you know we're going to have to keep fighting this at that level.
02:37:43.000 They will come back and they'll squeeze around some other side play on us, and we will always have to do it, but you can block it into a local level.
02:37:52.000 Well, it's got to be done.
02:37:53.000 I want to thank you for coming on the broadcast with us, and God bless you, Catherine, and I hope people will visit the websites.
02:37:59.000 Why don't you give folks the websites for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons?
02:38:04.000 We are aapsonline.org.
02:38:08.000 P.S.
02:38:09.000 Online.org.
02:38:11.000 And we'll ask everybody to send another letter to Congress in a couple weeks when we're coming back to the new session.
02:38:17.000 So we'll keep you posted on that for your website.
02:38:19.000 Alright, you're great.
02:38:20.000 Thank you.
02:38:21.000 Thanks, Alex.
02:38:21.000 Take care, everybody.
02:38:22.000 Happy Holidays.
02:38:23.000 You bet.
02:38:24.000 Folks, I'm not trying to brag here, but it shows what you can do, too, out there.
02:38:28.000 I thought up the idea to Have cities and counties throw out the Patriot Act.
02:38:36.000 I put it out in a web story, it got picked up, groups picked it up, and now 400 plus cities and towns, four states have done it.
02:38:45.000 I talked to Dr. Breeding and said, we've got to do something, a petition or something.
02:38:48.000 I said, why don't you write this up, why don't you do this?
02:38:50.000 It was really mainly 60-40, it was mainly his idea, but that was born right here.
02:38:57.000 Fighting Arnold Schwarzenegger and his controllers.
02:39:00.000 We're having to be president.
02:39:01.000 ArnoldExposed.com.
02:39:03.000 The movement against it started right here.
02:39:05.000 I was watching everybody against it, but the establishment for it, and I said, OK, I've got to do it again.
02:39:10.000 You know, over and over again, and folks, I don't like being alone on this.
02:39:15.000 I know the systems that work and how to fight these people.
02:39:19.000 You know, here she is going, go sign our petition.
02:39:21.000 I go, well, funny, we had one of those, and it's ours, that I now have been told tens of thousands have signed, just, what, 7,000 just in the last few weeks.
02:39:30.000 You know, it's important.
02:39:32.000 But you're just as smart as I am, or smarter in many cases, and you've got to become a leader.
02:39:38.000 You've got to go get the local radio show, or the website, or start your own group, and you've got to do it.
02:39:44.000 Now, a lot of people go out and do that, and they expect me to then go support their group, and basically be a minion of that group, and I don't do that either.
02:39:50.000 You know, I can't do it all.
02:39:52.000 People call and go, I want you to fight this too, or you need to do that too, or... Folks, I can't do any more.
02:39:57.000 I mean, I literally yesterday, Worked 21 hours.
02:40:04.000 I want you to understand that that's not an exaggeration.
02:40:06.000 And I just can't do it.
02:40:08.000 I'm looking forward to this break the next few days.
02:40:10.000 I'm not doing a show Thursday or Friday, but we've got some great rebroadcasts coming up.
02:40:15.000 We have a few interviews I'm doing, and I just need to get my head out of this for a while.
02:40:20.000 So I can more effectively fight it.
02:40:23.000 But it's just, when you really study this, 18 hours a day is my normal Seventeen hours a day is my normal workload.
02:40:32.000 When you do this, when you really see it, I mean, this is horrible.
02:40:37.000 All of it is.
02:40:39.000 And so many people call themselves Christians, but they're not real Christians.
02:40:43.000 They're not followers of Christ.
02:40:45.000 They're followers of leaders that claim they have the mantle of Christ.
02:40:49.000 And so being a Christian means calling Muslims sub-humans and saying, kill them all.
02:40:54.000 And being a Christian means you say George Bush is a man of the Lord.
02:40:58.000 And being a Christian means you ignore all the evil fruits around you.
02:41:03.000 And being a Christian means you ignore skull and bones.
02:41:06.000 And being a Christian, going, well, it doesn't matter if we kill all the Muslims, and good, I'm glad they shot that subhuman man on the ground, because he was going to hell anyways, you know?
02:41:18.000 I mean, that's not how Jesus operated.
02:41:20.000 And that's a whole other discussion, a whole other area.
02:41:25.000 I mean, you talk about the so-called Christians today.
02:41:28.000 They are cult members, folks.
02:41:30.000 They are cult members.
02:41:31.000 They are not Christians.
02:41:33.000 I mean, I can just see the spirit of Satan on them.
02:41:37.000 I can literally see it burning on them.
02:41:40.000 I can see it.
02:41:41.000 I mean, they don't even know it.
02:41:41.000 It's sick.
02:41:43.000 I mean, they are ultimate slaves of the devil, because they don't even know it.
02:41:48.000 They are filled with hate.
02:41:49.000 They are filled with a beast.
02:41:51.000 They think they're Christian.
02:41:53.000 They say, so what microchips?
02:41:55.000 So what national ID cards?
02:41:57.000 So what if the dollar's plunging?
02:41:59.000 So what for psychological testing?
02:42:01.000 If Bush is for it, it's of the Lord.
02:42:03.000 Was it of the Lord when he went to the Shinto Shrine and summoned the demon in Japan?
02:42:07.000 Was it of the Lord when he prayed to Buddha and Allah?
02:42:10.000 Was it of the Lord when he did anything?
02:42:11.000 The guy's a devil worshipper.
02:42:13.000 So is his cousin, Kerry.
02:42:16.000 And if you don't have the discernment just to look at him and know it, much less the fruits, Then, folks, you're not walking with God.
02:42:26.000 And I'm not up here on a high horse, folks.
02:42:28.000 I mean, I'm driven.
02:42:30.000 Far beyond driven.
02:42:32.000 Because, you know, I know that the devil knows the time is short.
02:42:36.000 And I know my time is short to warn people.
02:42:39.000 And I just can't stand corruption and evil.
02:42:44.000 I've been used in a limited capacity, I believe, as a tool, as a vessel.
02:42:48.000 You know, by God, to fight the New World Order.
02:42:50.000 And I don't know how you can call yourselves Christians and not see just the darkness that's enveloping this country.
02:42:58.000 I mean, it's easy to just deny and be in denial of everything.
02:43:02.000 It's easy to just go along with all this, but in the long run, it's going to destroy you.
02:43:09.000 I mean, you're not going to have to wait until you go to hell to be in hell.
02:43:14.000 They're going to take everything you've got.
02:43:18.000 And a lot of you in that process, while things are getting worse and worse, are going to like people trying to, you know, when a sailing ship sinks and the last thing to go under is the mast, people climb up the mast, you know, hoping they're going to escape it.
02:43:30.000 And you kind of climb up into the system and worship it even more and try to be an even bigger supporter of it and try to rationalize and make excuses for it and do all this.
02:43:39.000 And meanwhile, the troops are breathing DU and dying en masse, getting sick.
02:43:44.000 Meanwhile, children die every week in Texas alone from over-drugging.
02:43:48.000 About the government, and it's just kept quiet.
02:43:51.000 Meanwhile, they're putting cancer viruses in your vaccines.
02:43:54.000 Meanwhile, they're putting toxins in your water.
02:43:57.000 Meanwhile, they're doing this to you.
02:43:59.000 And, you know, I'm sorry that stuff's scary.
02:44:02.000 I'm sorry that things aren't all peaches and cream and roses.
02:44:07.000 But at least you can know the truth.
02:44:10.000 At least you can face reality.
02:44:13.000 And, you know, that's the open hand I give you.
02:44:15.000 Believe me, I wish I was wrong about this.
02:44:17.000 I'm not wrong, folks.
02:44:19.000 I go off their own documents.
02:44:21.000 Then I get one more email telling me I'm psychic, I'm going to throw up.
02:44:26.000 How did you talk about that eight years ago?
02:44:27.000 Because it's the documents, folks.
02:44:29.000 They're going to put satellite boxes in your cars.
02:44:31.000 They're going to force drug half the children in the next phase.
02:44:35.000 They're going to get rid of almost all our jobs.
02:44:37.000 Everything's going to shift into prisons, police, surveillance.
02:44:41.000 And a lot of yuppies and people are going to serve it and love it and wear the little uniforms and get off on the control and it ain't going to be pretty.
02:44:50.000 They're going to take your guns, and they're going to do it.
02:44:53.000 Unless you get involved.
02:44:56.000 You can keep laughing if you want, and just watch what happens.
02:44:59.000 I want to tell the people listening, the establishment types, you're not the elite.
02:45:04.000 You're not part of the system.
02:45:06.000 These low-level functionaries think they're part of the elite.
02:45:08.000 A lot of them get off on all this.
02:45:09.000 You're not part of the elite.
02:45:10.000 You're expendable.
02:45:11.000 You're going to lose your jobs.
02:45:13.000 You're going to lose it all.
02:45:14.000 No matter how you try to hang on and bootlick, it isn't going to help you.
02:45:18.000 The path towards freedom And salvation and strength is towards the path that looks dangerous.
02:45:25.000 Towards the rocky narrow path.
02:45:28.000 The way to destruction is wide.
02:45:31.000 And you can think that going along with this is going to protect you and I assure you it's not.
02:45:40.000 That's the mind trick here is that what looks dangerous and what looks like the most dangerous path Sometimes you've got to put the ship straight into the storm.
02:45:50.000 If you turn that ship sideways, you're going to capsize.
02:45:55.000 You're going to go on your beam ends.
02:45:57.000 It's over.
02:45:58.000 You're going to lose the ship.
02:46:00.000 You've got to go straight into it.
02:46:02.000 It's like football.
02:46:03.000 The one time you don't go 100% when you're lined up playing football is the one time you break your leg or sprain your ankle or get your collarbone broken or get tagged and get knocked out.
02:46:15.000 If you go 100% every time, you're almost unstoppable.
02:46:20.000 That's just how it works, folks.
02:46:21.000 And I said I'd go to calls.
02:46:25.000 Let's go to some here.
02:46:27.000 Who's up next?
02:46:27.000 I guess Jeff in Texas.
02:46:29.000 Jeff, go ahead.
02:46:29.000 Welcome.
02:46:30.000 Hi, Alex.
02:46:31.000 A quick question for you.
02:46:32.000 And excuse me if you've covered this already.
02:46:35.000 Given the research that people like Springmeier and others have done on the secret birth of the Illuminati, how it's resulted in people like Hitler, And possibly Clinton.
02:46:46.000 Have you looked at or possibly covered the possibility of a secret birth regarding Arnold?
02:46:54.000 I don't think there's any need to look at a secret birth.
02:46:57.000 I mean, he's the product of an SS marriage.
02:46:59.000 He's there in a little town where the Rothschilds are based.
02:47:01.000 I mean, he's just a front man for them.
02:47:06.000 Given his meteoric rise to power, you know, it's just so drastic.
02:47:09.000 I wonder if there was something behind it.
02:47:11.000 You know, if he was possible.
02:47:13.000 He's an icon they want to use.
02:47:14.000 He has the archetypal image of invincibility of the Beowulf Complex.
02:47:20.000 Right, right.
02:47:21.000 Okay.
02:47:22.000 But really, he's a Grendel.
02:47:24.000 The other thing is, Alex, given all these laws that are coming down, and we know that they're coming down faster than we can even look at them, all these laws from the federal government, they apply to quote-unquote U.S.
02:47:36.000 citizens.
02:47:37.000 Now, you may have covered this already, but it's time to break this federal contract with the Social Security Administration.
02:47:44.000 I've done it.
02:47:46.000 Do you have any thoughts on that as far as getting out of the U.S.
02:47:49.000 citizen status?
02:47:51.000 What?
02:47:51.000 Becoming a state citizen?
02:47:52.000 Exactly.
02:47:54.000 Yeah, you know, it works.
02:47:55.000 It works.
02:47:56.000 But then they try to go there, educating the courts how to engage in fraud on you and just use force to impel you, compel you back into the system.
02:48:05.000 Right.
02:48:05.000 Well, I'm just looking for, you know, peaceable means of resistance or passive resistance or protest.
02:48:10.000 That seems to be the last thing with all of these laws is to revoke your U.S.
02:48:13.000 citizen status.
02:48:15.000 That way there's no contract.
02:48:17.000 The problem is, even if there's no contract, they still enforce it as if there's an organic one.
02:48:21.000 Yeah, they're evil.
02:48:22.000 Alright, thanks Doc.
02:48:23.000 Yeah, thank you for the call.
02:48:25.000 Uh, let's talk to Bob and Joe when we get back.
02:48:30.000 I don't know about all the others.
02:48:32.000 A few final tidbits.
02:48:33.000 I might as well plug my videos.
02:48:34.000 I haven't really done that.
02:48:36.000 Ah, if you don't want to get them, if you don't think they're important, just don't worry about it.
02:48:40.000 Just don't get involved.
02:48:41.000 Just kiss it all goodbye.
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02:51:52.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:51:55.000 In most cases in history, every day in the capital studies of what is now today Latin America, or what is today Iran, or what was then Persia, There were dead people hanging up in cages everywhere.
02:52:11.000 They were roasting people, dunking them in oil.
02:52:13.000 Elitists sitting there, giggling and laughing, strangling people for enjoyment.
02:52:18.000 And that same enjoyment is about to be in your daily life.
02:52:22.000 We are turning into demonic animals.
02:52:26.000 A demon-possessed nation.
02:52:28.000 A demon-possessed world.
02:52:31.000 And it's all around us, the suffering, the evil, It's all around us, 35,000 children starved to death every day.
02:52:39.000 There's 6 billion, 400 million people coming towards this country.
02:52:45.000 They're getting rid of our sovereignty, taking everything we got.
02:52:48.000 And the average yuppie is a giggling, demonic pig, who thinks it's all funny.
02:52:59.000 And the other folks are so uneducated and so informed.
02:53:02.000 And there's a giant mass of us that are informed, but I'm not trying to be negative, I just want you to know how bad it is.
02:53:08.000 Police and all the rest of you listening, you know I've investigated this.
02:53:11.000 What I'm saying is true and you know darn well it's true in your guts right now, don't you?
02:53:15.000 And while you're not crying for this country, I have no idea.
02:53:21.000 I mean, have you got any love for your family?
02:53:24.000 You better just stop giggling at what I'm saying and wipe that smile off your face.
02:53:29.000 You better investigate what I've claimed here, because it's all true.
02:53:34.000 It's all true.
02:53:37.000 And I think we're going to make it through this, but it's just painful to see our country being ripped limb from limb and to watch you giggling about it because you think you're part of it.
02:53:46.000 You're not!
02:53:50.000 We're entering a decadent phase.
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02:55:03.000 Let's talk to Bob in Kansas.
02:55:05.000 Bob, last caller, go ahead.
02:55:07.000 Hi, Alex.
02:55:08.000 I think one of the best ways of getting this out is letters to the editor.
02:55:11.000 If everybody listening will, little small towns every place, if people read that every week or every day.
02:55:20.000 And that would really get it out, if everybody listening would do that.
02:55:24.000 Every week I get letters to the editor plugging my website and talking about other key issues.
02:55:32.000 It's from all over the country.
02:55:33.000 It's very exciting.
02:55:35.000 Yeah, and if you'd have a special, if you could, a special place on your website, a list of the things that the Bush and Republicans are doing, we could use that with the information to put in some of these letters to the editor.
02:55:51.000 I kind of hesitate writing because I don't know all the details of some of this stuff.
02:55:56.000 Open borders, gun control, forced psychological testing.
02:55:59.000 Yeah.
02:56:00.000 Face scanning cameras everywhere.
02:56:02.000 If we could have a list, it would help a lot.
02:56:05.000 That way we could keep this in mind.
02:56:07.000 Yeah.
02:56:08.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.
02:56:09.000 Thank you, sir.
02:56:11.000 Hey, think about what you should really be thankful for.
02:56:14.000 The freedom, the liberty that America was, to some extent still is.
02:56:18.000 Though it's fading.
02:56:19.000 Fading fast.
02:56:21.000 The sun is setting.
02:56:23.000 The darkness is about to be upon us.
02:56:26.000 Shadows are getting very long.
02:56:30.000 We'll be back tomorrow, back tonight.