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00:08:27.000Red Buckman, really the forefather of the court reform movement, jury reform, Fully Informed Jury Association, the acknowledged grandfather of it all, one of the founding members of the movement against the criminal 16th Amendment and the fraudulent IRS,
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00:09:00.000Let me get into this first because I kind of dropped the ball yesterday because I'm just so sick of it.
00:09:05.000I only talked about it for a few minutes.
00:09:07.000I should have spent a lot more time on it.
00:09:10.00060 Minutes Sunday has this disgruntled supposed CIA officer who's resigned From the Central Intelligence Agency and why he's got inside info, Al-Qaeda headed up by Osama bin Tim Osman, that's his CIA code name, Tim Osman, has gotten a cleric's authorization to use a dirty bomb or a nuclear device, an A-bomb, a hydrogen bomb, who knows what, on America!
00:09:42.000And George Bush did nothing to warn the American people.
00:09:49.000Meanwhile, Bush has got his people out saying, the CIA let 9-11 happen!
00:09:54.000Let me totally take it over and run it out of the White House!
00:09:58.000So it does seem like there is some type of internal war going on between the CIA, at least some factions of it, and Lord Bush.
00:10:09.000There is no war going on, other than the fact that there are a lot of good people in the CIA, a lot of good analysts and others, who have been angry about being ordered to put out lies about Iraq and other fraudulent, manufactured analyses on the world.
00:10:30.000Because, then after they put out the disinfo, they're blamed with it, and Bush says, oh, it's their fault.
00:10:36.000So really all that's happening is Bush is reorganizing the CIA under Porter Goss, who was an insider on 9-11, under his centralized controls to an even greater degree.
00:10:49.000They've always had the top compartments under New World Order control, now they're just running out the few people that weren't under their control.
00:10:56.000So there's a purge going on in the empire of some of the people who aren't energetic enough about destroying this country.
00:11:08.000News and World Report yesterday had the Bush White House telling them that, well, we're getting rid of a bunch of people in the cabinet, like Ashcroft and Powell and others, because they're not energetic enough about putting into place our policies.
00:11:23.000They're not energetic enough, so I guess they don't enjoy enough dismantling this country.
00:11:30.000And so we have Time Magazine with bordering on nukes, new accounts from Al-Qaeda, To attack the U.S.
00:11:36.000with weapons of mass destruction, a key Al-Qaeda operative seized in Pakistan recently offered an alarming account of the group's potential plans to target U.S.
00:11:44.000with weapons of mass destruction, senior U.S.
00:11:49.000Sharif al-Massari, an Egyptian who was captured late August near Pakistan's border with Iran and Afghanistan, is told his interrogators of Al-Qaeda's interest in moving nuclear materials from Europe to either the US or Mexico, according to a report circulating among US government officials.
00:12:14.000On PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com mainstream admissions where they bust so-called Al-Qaeda operatives and then quietly release them six months later and it's admitted, oh no, they were really CIA double agents and we were just staging their arrest to protect them from the people they were reporting on.
00:12:42.000And then of course, We've got Bill Gertz out saying, oh, Chechenians with suitcase nukes may be coming across the Mexico border from Arizona into Arizona.
00:12:53.000We've got these reports that, oh, they may be in Mexico right now with the nukes.
00:13:07.000They've got satellites in orbit that can see just normal uranium deposits Forget enriched deposits, that is bombs, just normal deposits of uranium, plutonium, the satellites can look hundreds of feet into the ground and see those molecules there, of the element.
00:13:33.000And they admit that a nuclear bomb, a dirty bomb, it all stands out in different color arrays.
00:13:45.000They know where every single nuclear weapon and And every radiological device, from a chest x-ray core, up to the biggest, fattest hydrogen bomb, to neutron bombs, to antimatter bombs, that our loving governments develop, now admitted, they know where it all is, exactly where it's at.
00:14:13.000And they admittedly have scores of helicopters flying around looking for these things as well, not just the satellites.
00:14:18.000So, I am... Look, if a nuke goes off, folks...
00:14:28.000And they are now preparing us for one of these things to go off.
00:14:31.000And I want you to know, if it does go off, if we're not able to expose them and stop them, and they do kill a couple hundred thousand people, there's even a good-sized A-bomb going off at point-blank range.
00:14:42.000It isn't as devastating as, you know, one drop with an airburst.
00:14:48.000But still, hundreds of thousands will die.
00:14:50.000And a whole city will be a radiological dump for hundreds of years.
00:14:54.000Because when you detonate one of these things, and it combines with the different elements on the ground, and different metals on the ground, it way ups the yield of the radiological fallout in the half-life.
00:15:09.000And don't think they won't do it to radically re-engineer our whole society into a total police state, where the whole economy is fed through the hands of a few elite families, and everything goes into implantable microchips under the skin, and the total New World Order police state, and national drafts, and total empire and world government.
00:15:25.0009-11 is just a setup to set the police state up, bigger attacks are coming, and that's Gary Hart saying that, that's the CFR saying it, it's all these people.
00:15:35.000So they come out and create this story, starting a decade ago with Alexander Leavitt.
00:15:40.000Oh, there's this missing 122 suitcase nukes.
00:15:43.000Oh, they're going to get us any minute.
00:16:52.000I mean, I've been pretty freaked out lately.
00:16:54.000You can just see the writing on the wall.
00:16:57.000When they pull this, It'll just be like WTC 7, where all the scientists go, uh, even non-hardened junk steel doesn't heat up and start melting until 3,000 degrees.
00:18:52.000It's meant to widen the war because the war goes on longer and is widened and the globalists make more money and have a bigger pretext.
00:18:59.000And domestically, it's meant to condition us that, oh, it's okay to line people up and shoot them.
00:19:04.000Just like CBS released the CIA photographs that they had everybody pose for while they tortured and raped and killed people.
00:19:14.000And then domestically, we're taught that that's okay.
00:19:17.000And then internationally, we're all meant to look like the bad guys, and the U.N.' 's meant to look like the good guy, and it enrages the Arabs.
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00:22:59.000The United States seems to be celebrating over its triumph of reducing government debt.
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00:24:38.000Most of them are picked up and put in these giant camps.
00:24:42.000At least half of the 300,000 people did leave, and most of them got picked up and put in these giant sprawling refugee camps where they get interrogated.
00:24:50.000Imagine leaving your home, all your possessions, leaving your hometown, driving up to the checkpoints with troops aiming machine guns at you.
00:27:33.000And another group of Marines came in and relieved another group that had been there since the day before.
00:27:38.000And they walked over and were shoving these guys around, two of them, you know, wounded past being able to be fixed.
00:27:46.000There's dead Iraqis in the place, and this guy's laying there, and they just walk over and shoot him.
00:27:52.000And then O'Reilly implies that, oh, there was a bomb just gone off and the Marines were all upset and, you know, this is just what they did.
00:28:03.000You know, we have this clip we've played probably ten times off PBS, where they catch the family stealing three sticks of wood.
00:28:10.000They think they may have stolen three sticks of wood, so they laugh and joke about it, machine gun the car, and then they run over the guy's car with a tank, and then laugh about it.
00:28:21.000I mean, let's say this was something solemn they had to do, because you might have stolen wood, and here's the freedom we give you.
00:28:48.000We don't have time to roll it right now.
00:28:52.000And so, we have all these reports, we have the photos, the video of masses of dead children with their arms and legs blown out by the BBC, the Associated Press.
00:29:08.000Well, we've caught them through some of their Arab front groups.
00:29:11.000Websites we know are CIA front groups claiming that they're Arab, putting out fake images of Abrams and dead children laying around that can easily be proven as fakes.
00:29:23.000And then that way they can show you fake photos in the news, and then admit they're fake later, and then say, oh, we were wrong, it was a mistake.
00:29:33.000And then see discredited, only admitted, real photos and video.
00:29:37.000A lot of sophisticated tactics being used But the Pentagon said they'd do this.
00:29:43.000They said they were going to lie to us for our own good.
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00:33:27.000You can talk about how the government's fear-mongering that Bin Laden supposedly has gotten religious approval to nuke us.
00:33:41.000Or we can get into this Marine killing an unarmed, injured person a day after the building had been secured and this person had been in custody.
00:34:21.000Many other Arab fighters who hate our guts have come in from other countries, who are doing despicable things.
00:34:28.000But then you've got Alawi running around as an arch crook.
00:34:32.000Then you had, of course, Chalibi before him, one of the Shah's torture masters, and the convicted bank robber running scams.
00:34:38.000The Iraqi CR government putting in most of the Ba'athists, Saddam's people, trained at U.S.
00:34:43.000military bases, of course, during the 80s, then put back into power.
00:34:47.000They see people's property being seized by Illaoi's people, just basic corruption, and they're angry.
00:34:57.000And even a lot of our top special forces people have said, look, we bomb innocent houses, we bulldoze date palms and plantations because one sniper shoots at us.
00:35:17.000They're going to go pick up an AK-47 and take pot shots at you.
00:35:23.000And it's getting more and more of our troops killed.
00:35:27.000Our own Pentagon Generals have left, or those that were already retired, those that ran Gulf War One, have said, look, we should have gone in there with 400,000 troops day one, if we were going to do this, restored order immediately, had an immediate election, but instead we tried to put in puppets and oppress the people and let everything fall apart, and this is a quagmire!
00:36:00.000Marines rally around a comrade under the investigation for killing a wounded Iraqi during the offensive in Fallujah saying he was probably under combat stress in unpredictable hair-trigger circumstances.
00:36:11.000Well, I would tend to agree with that, but it doesn't mean it's okay.
00:36:15.000Marines interviewed on Tuesday said they didn't see the shooting as a scandal, I do, rather the act of a comrade who faced intense pressure during the effort to quell insurgency in the city.
00:36:28.000Now listen to this, I can't see why he would, I can see why he would do it.
00:36:33.000He was probably running around, being shot at for days on Indian Fallujah.
00:36:39.000There should be an investigation, but they should look into the circumstances to Lance Corporal Christopher Hanson.
00:37:02.000They're not human that I've heard on talk radio.
00:37:05.000They don't even know this guy's an insurgent!
00:37:07.000They got wounded people in a mosque, who've been in there for a hospital for a day, one group of Marines leaves, a new comes in, and they walk over and shoot the guy in the head!
00:37:19.000And I guess that's one way to win the fight!
00:37:25.000They'd go into a town, people take pot shots at them, they'd line up for every dead SS officer, they'd line up a couple hundred of the citizens, including women and children, blow their heads off, Of course, didn't make the Soviets, the Russian people had been for the Nazis as liberators, but a bunch of that behavior they suddenly turned against them.
00:37:45.000By the way, they say Hitler would have won World War II if he wouldn't have had his troops just bomb and murder people en masse in those cities in Russia, before they got stopped outside Moscow and Stalingrad.
00:38:02.000But hey, the SS had it all figured out, just like our troops.
00:38:09.000And look, the brains behind all this knows exactly what they're doing.
00:38:15.000But, to show you how they're abusing the people, here's this PBS clip again, and there's dozens of such clips, where they think they've stolen three sticks of wood.
00:38:24.000Y'all go to PrisonPlanet.tv, actually watch the video.
00:38:27.000They think they've stolen three sticks of wood, and so They laugh at them, machine gun the car, run over it with tanks, with the neighborhams, and then laugh at them again.
00:38:37.000Okay, this is, this is how you win the hearts and minds.
00:38:42.000Now this is just in the first few weeks of the war, a year and a half ago.
00:40:05.000By the way, 80%, it's actually 81% of new police are former military, so these hundreds of thousands of troops will be coming home, and they'll be your police officers.
00:40:17.000And we'll see more scenes of 21-year-old college students, straight A's, no criminal record, having their eyeballs blown into their brains, dead on the ground.
00:40:39.000The military command launched an investigation after video footage showed a U.S.
00:40:46.000Marine shooting a wounded and unarmed man in a mosque in the city on Saturday.
00:40:51.000The man was one of five wounded and left in the mosque after Marines fought their way through the area.
00:40:58.000A pool reporter by NBC correspondent Kevin Seitz said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S.
00:41:04.000forces who stormed it, killing 10 militants and wounded the five.
00:41:07.000Said the wounded had been left for others to pick up.
00:41:11.000A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied.
00:41:16.000Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque along with several appeared to be close to death, Seitz said.
00:41:24.000He said a Marine noticed one prisoner was still breathing.
00:41:26.000A Marine can be heard saying, on the pool footage provided by Reuters Television, he's bleeping, faking he's dead.
00:41:33.000The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head.
00:41:38.000Now, a couple weeks ago, on the outskirts of Mosul, trash trucks, and there's video of this, are driving around, paid for by the government, run by Iraqis.
00:41:59.000And, uh, the army hadn't been told that it was trash trucks at night out picking up the garbage like they do everywhere else in the early morning hours.
00:42:14.000And so they saw guys jumping on and off of these big trucks And from hundreds of yards away, they didn't ask questions.
00:42:20.000They just opened fire, blowing up two of the trucks.
00:42:23.000And they walk over, and there's these wounded guys.
00:42:25.000One guy had his legs blown off, up to his intestines hanging out.
00:42:31.000And another one was wounded, begging, please, please, give my friend help.
00:42:39.000And they walked over and laughed, and began machine-gunning them in the head.
00:42:44.000So, we're there to turn the lights on, give them power, help them out.
00:42:48.000And so troops just walk over, even after they know it's a trash truck, and are so sick, so mentally ill, out killing so many people, that they just get off on it.
00:42:58.000Now that's a small percentage of our troops.
00:43:00.000We've interviewed the troops, Marine Corps, you know, Master Sergeants, 18 years in, exemplary record, in Iraq for a year, come back, ought to have them back on.
00:43:13.000And he describes how they're out there, and the bombs aren't precision, and they just rain down, and there's all these dead children in the streets, and he's holding two-year-olds, you know, with their guts all over the ground, and the baby's dying, and the family's begging, you know, going, we are Shiites!
00:43:27.000We have a family who was tortured by Saddam!
00:43:36.000And he said, after dead child, after dead child, after dead child, just, you know, a car's driving down the road, full of a family, they just opened fire.
00:43:43.000Remember when the government sent their Marines into Baghdad?
00:43:47.000And, you know, it was live footage, and it just showed trucks, trash trucks, uh, delivery trucks, people driving, they just, machine gun into the windows, people falling out dead in mass, trucks blowing up, Marines cheering, and then the mentally ill, dumbed down ones say, well, this is just like a video game!
00:44:13.000That's all we're... You know, wow, this is so easy!
00:44:17.000And you look at all the video games we've had for decades, it's trucks and cars driving around, and you just blow them up, and, uh, you run over the old lady with the shopping cart.
00:44:35.000If the game Dungeon Keeper, you kidnap children, torture them to death, you get extra demonic powers, you build an army underground to go out and kill the good people.
00:44:44.000I mean, about half the games are like this now.
00:44:47.000The number one game out right now is H.E.L.O.
00:44:57.000And I've talked to Vietnam vets, World War II vets, Korean War vets, who had to, you know, who killed a lot of people, and if you can get them to talk about it around the campfire, you know, these old men would start crying.
00:46:27.000Yeah, Alex, boy, it's really sad to see this happening to our Army, considering we had a really good reputation for not raping, looting, murdering.
00:46:38.000I was listening earlier, and you were mentioning the nuclear weapons, especially you mentioned some of the yield prediction, I guess, or something like that.
00:46:54.000And I thought you were a little bit off in some certain instances, especially with the enhanced radiation, reduced blast, or briefcase bomb area.
00:47:05.000But-- Yeah, you're talking about a suitcase nuke with certain metals, like cobalt, jacketed, which would then create a lot higher level of radiation.
00:47:18.000Exactly, but have a reduced blast as compared with the airburst.
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00:47:59.000I mean, with satellites and helicopters, they know where naturally occurring uranium and plutonium is, much less enriched.
00:48:06.000They know where every x-ray machine is, and nuclear weapons stand out like a big red flare.
00:48:12.000They know where this stuff is, so the story that Al-Ciada could sneak a nuke in here is just a total fraud.
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00:49:06.000Wow, Dr. Strangelove would love that website.
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00:49:56.000It's getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
00:49:59.000I mean, I've interviewed so many Marines, so many Army soldiers who've left, who've retired.
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00:56:33.000I just had a quick comment to make here.
00:56:36.000I've never been in combat or anything, but it seems to me that the last thing you would want to do if you think somebody is booby-trapped is shoot them at close range.
00:56:47.000Well, I mean, that's the weird excuse is that, oh, he may have been booby-trapped.
00:56:56.000This is a mosque that had been held...
00:56:59.000for a day and a new group of marines moved in and some of the Iraqis were dead, others were bleeding to death and now it turns out this guy was wounded.
00:57:07.000First they claimed he wasn't even wounded and they just didn't like him so they splattered his head.
00:57:11.000I'm sure that was the way it was and their excuses though, I mean I've been hearing the neocon talk show host out there saying well we don't know what it's like and well I don't think they know what it's like in combat either.
00:57:27.000Well, I've talked to a lot of veterans, and we didn't do this in the past.
00:57:32.000Now, obviously, there have been a few cases that were sanctioned where you're in ditches, and you've already captured some, say, North Koreans, and there's 5,000 of them about to rush you.
00:57:45.000They go ahead and line up their prisoners and shoot them.
00:58:10.000What about people that are paid by our government that they kill routinely?
00:58:15.000In context with it all, it's obvious that they're trying to anger the locals.
00:58:23.000If these people are being trained like this, It's just a real sad situation as far as our military, and like you say, I worry about these guys coming back and being police officers.
00:58:36.000Well, Chuck, what's gonna happen when our troops get captured and get tortured?
01:00:14.000You know that General Douglas MacArthur had said that history has failed to record any instance of any nation that went into moral decline that did not end up in political and economic ruin.
01:00:26.000And the things you were talking about earlier is all a byproduct of what the American people have become.
01:00:33.000And I've gotten more and more to the point that I just don't blame the President.
01:00:37.000They have the legislative power to stop all this stuff, but they don't do anything.
01:00:42.000You got a criminal run, two-party monopoly, you got a nation filled with baby extermination camps, where we're actually debating whether that's right or not.
01:02:22.000Yeah, they're doing that because a total consolidation is taking place.
01:02:26.000Yeah, well, this is all part of it, you see, and we're moving so fast, so rapidly, into an Orwellian state, and people just don't even understand what's going on, and it's hard to talk to people that are so-called educated in the government school systems, because they just follow the mine wars coming out of New York City, which is all controlled and corrupted.
01:02:49.000And your news media is one of the most corrupt institutions in America.
01:03:31.000We'll talk to Rev Beckman about the power of the jury, what's happening with the IRS.
01:03:37.000We'll get his view on the Patriot Act II and the National ID Card.
01:03:41.000We'll get his view on the Federal Reserve.
01:03:45.000The grandfather of so many modern movements joining us when we get back.
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01:07:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:07:13.000So many of the modern elements of the truth movement, the patriot movement...
01:07:26.000The Christian Conservative Movement, the Fully Informed Jury Association Movement, the Court Reform Movement, the Movement Exposing the Fraudulent Nature of the 16th Amendment and the Income Tax were spawned and pushed and the key source research done by the man we're now joined by, Red Buckman.
01:07:48.000Red, it's great to have you on with us and I know you've been Somewhat ill the last year, but now you're recovered.
01:07:57.000And it's great to have you on with us today.
01:08:01.000Just out of the gates, can you tell people briefly about your awakening, and then what the New World Order is, what these wars are all about, how the Federal Reserve operates?
01:08:14.000Well, I was in the military during the Korean War, of course, and I was a very fortunate young man who I was put into a position where I got an inside look at the military, and I had a top-secret security classification and all, and so I got an inside look, which is something that not too many young people get.
01:08:40.000When I came out of the service late in 1952, I was very disillusioned.
01:08:47.000I recognized the fact that something was very seriously wrong with our political system in this country.
01:08:57.000I became somewhat of a political activist at that time because I kept saying, well, somebody's got to do something.
01:09:05.000And of course, what I was trying to do was make the system work the way I was taught in high school.
01:09:13.000And it didn't take me too long to figure out that, hey, We don't have any control, the way they taught us in the government school.
01:09:24.000They just said, well, you vote on election day and then you go home and go back to sleep again.
01:09:31.000And of course it came to my attention that that wasn't controlling this government at all.
01:09:38.000And of course, as a result, I did some study, some research, and did a lot of thinking about it.
01:09:46.000Found that we have three votes in our political system, of course, and that is the election day vote, the grand jury vote, and the trial jury vote.
01:09:58.000and uh... and we were not using the grand jury we were not using the trial jury vote uh... to control our government and of course the federal reserve bank system i was just absolutely uh... you know uh... dumbfounded when i read the the uh... well i read uh... eustis mullins book uh... back there quite a long time ago he wrote that book i think in fifty two if i remember right about the secrets of the federal reserve and um...
01:10:27.000You know, the American people, we have been so dumbed down.
01:10:35.000We have been so mentally conditioned to believe that we have the greatest political system on the face of the earth, this democracy thing, and we have been neutralized.
01:10:49.000We have been, you might say, neutered.
01:10:54.000We just haven't done our job and of course I am so encouraged.
01:10:59.000Red, you cover the basic fact in your videos and your books that we the people are above the government.
01:11:07.000It's God, the people, and the government, not the government, the people, and God's forgotten.
01:11:12.000And that example is used in the juries and grand juries.
01:11:16.000The judge tells the grand jury what to do.
01:11:19.000The judge tells the trial jury what to do.
01:11:22.000That's not how it's supposed to work in all the court cases, and in the founding documents, and in the Magna Carta.
01:11:28.000It is we, the people, that are the bosses, but over time they usurped That authority, and the usurpation of authority in the juries and grand juries, is the same thing we see across the political spectrum.
01:11:57.000We didn't have the activists out there that we have today.
01:12:01.000And today, I am just absolutely amazed at how we've got very strong voices just literally coming out of the woodwork all over this nation.
01:12:13.000The newsletters, the talk shows, the cassette tapes, the videotapes, the CDs.
01:12:20.000It's coming like a flood at this point in time and so I think that we have reason to be optimistic and we have reason to be accelerating our activities so that we can take advantage of all these people out here that have become victims.
01:12:44.000And Red Buckman, again the grandfather of the fully informed jury movement, And a grandfather of exposing the IRS movement, just a real founding father in what's happening.
01:12:55.000Just six, seven years ago, and I talk about this at least once a week because it's the best news I've got.
01:12:59.000Six, seven years ago, on my one talk show here in Austin, one radio station, ten phone lines, half the callers disagreed with me.
01:13:10.000Now on a syndicated show, on AM and FM, shortwave internet, satellite, Nobody calls in a disagree, and on other people's talk shows, mainstream talk shows, where I'm being attacked by the host, almost no one calls in a disagree.
01:13:24.000So we've seen a total shift, but the mainstream media continues this illusion that we're all buying into it, so people are all balkanized independently, feeling like they're alone, when really we have the majority view.
01:13:39.000Yes, and it's going to... We've got some things happening right now.
01:13:48.000Supreme Court, they went and made a ruling last year, last fall, as I remember, and they said that a judge could not sentence a defendant to, uh, a convicted person to the death penalty.
01:14:00.000And then they used a big three-letter word that I just love, B-U-T, but.
01:14:05.000They said the judge can't sentence the guy to the death penalty, but the jury can.
01:14:12.000The way I read that, the Supreme Court says judges You don't have as much power as you thought you had.
01:14:21.000Yeah, judges were never in the executive, you know, executing any of it.
01:14:25.000Yeah, and then the Blakely v. Washington case came down in June, and boy, oh boy, oh boy, what a storm it has caused.
01:14:34.000The court said that the judges, the district court judges, are bound by the sentencing guideline laws.
01:14:43.000And they said the judge can't depart upward with those sentencing, but the jury can.
01:14:50.000And it just caused a tremendous storm because what brought about, people don't understand that the sentencing guideline law was passed by the U.S.
01:15:01.000Because you had one judge that was hanging somebody for a conviction, and another judge was putting a person out on probation for the same crime.
01:15:16.000And so there was no, you know, there was no continuity, there was no uniformity.
01:15:24.000And yes, and so the Congress, there was so much pressure put on Congress, and people don't realize That it was the Congress that created the District Courts, the lower courts, and therefore the Congress is the creator and the courts, the District Courts of Federal Courts, are the created.
01:15:45.000Well, well, well, Red, I want to get into juries and grand juries power a little bit later.
01:15:50.000I want to take some calls, but first off, there's an awakening taking place.
01:15:55.000Clearly that's why we see Patriot Act 1 and 2, Homeland Security, National ID cards.
01:16:01.000We've never seen, I mean obviously the Empire is striking back, we've never seen such a deluge of counter-offenses, but I see as they squeeze tighter, more people are waking up.
01:16:12.000Your analysis of Patriot Act II and just all of this insanely corrupt stuff, People being arrested for Rubik's Cubes.
01:16:39.000You know, history, we have the accounts of tyrant after tyrant.
01:16:47.000Who has tried to maintain their power over the people by becoming worse tyrants.
01:16:56.000Now, the Homeland Security Act, and of course the Patriot One and Patriot Two, they were not passed because the government was afraid of foreign terrorists.
01:17:08.000They were afraid of we the people in this country.
01:17:19.000They're afraid of anybody who has figured them out.
01:17:23.000Who has been able to identify them as being domestic enemies.
01:17:31.000And I'm reminded... Let me throw something else in here.
01:17:33.000I'm sure you heard that all over the country, if a state or school district wants federal money, they have to do drills where homeschoolers and Christians are terrorists and are murdering people.
01:17:44.000And so really, all the training's not about the Arabs, it's about us, the general public.
01:17:48.000Oh yes, and our law enforcement in this country, our highway patrol, our city police, our county sheriffs, the deputy sheriffs and such, All of these people now, they send them to these special schools.
01:18:05.000And in these schools, what they teach is so, I mean, it is so dangerous.
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01:23:04.000The government says give up all your rights, take a national ID card through your driver's license, let us arrest you for no reason, torture you, it's all good.
01:23:15.000Because the terrorists are about to strike, but oh, we're going to leave the borders wide open and create a Pan-American union.
01:24:18.000And the more severe they become, and the more psycho, the more people that wake up and become opposition.
01:24:33.000And so every time they do, you know, another Patriot One, Patriot Two and such, every time they do that, and every time they go out and step on people, They make another, you know, a wide-awake American.
01:24:49.000Let me bring up something that fits into this.
01:24:53.000Arnold Schwarzenegger openly supports Nazis, like Kurt Voltheimer after it was out that he was a Nazi.
01:24:59.000He went and campaigned for him for the presidency of Austria.
01:25:05.000Arnold says that he admires Hitler, that he wants to be worshipped as a dictator.
01:25:46.000You know, and of course, I ran for governor back in 1988 back in the state of Montana.
01:25:54.000And we had vote fraud and it was documented, we documented it so carefully and so thoroughly and we had the same thing that happened on the national level in this election with the Ohio elections, the vote fraud.
01:26:15.000And, uh, but nobody found out about it.
01:26:18.000We took all the evidence to the Secretary of State and he was going to do something and of course nothing was done.
01:26:25.000But now it is so prevalent, I mean it is so visible, it's so obvious, And so people are being exposed to the truth.
01:26:43.000Now, they have become so blatant and so, you know, it's so visible.
01:26:50.000Well, Red, you just got to the heart of the matter.
01:26:53.000In major polls, eight-tenths of Americans are against Arnold being president in a world net daily poll and only 1.8 percent wanting to be president.
01:27:02.000He's not popular, but it doesn't matter.
01:27:05.000They'll get rid of the second article during a con-con and they'll put him in as our president.
01:27:12.000Well, that's crazy, but I'll tell you, they are waking up a lot of people.
01:27:21.000A lot of people are being activated, you might say, into the freedom movement in this country by these kind of shenanigans, these kind of criminal activities.
01:27:31.000Why would the elite want to put Arnold Schwarzenegger in?
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01:32:01.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:32:05.000Red Beckman, restating what you were just saying.
01:32:11.000in the last segment we hit that break.
01:32:15.000You were saying if George Bush is a conservative, then Bill Clinton is a... - Well, he's a super, super, super conservative.
01:32:25.000You know, what George W. Bush has been able to pull off, you know, because he was pegged as a conservative and a Republican, You know, there were so many more watchdogs watching Bill Clinton.
01:32:45.000But a lot of them, they didn't, you know, anything that George W. Bush did was fine.
01:32:51.000And of course, they're called the neoconservatives, you know.
01:32:55.000And so, you know, it's been that way, you know, and Franklin D. Roosevelt, he won election on strictly a conservative platform and within a hundred days he violated every campaign promise he made.
01:33:40.000George W. is going to have the record.
01:33:43.000He's by far the worst that we've ever had.
01:33:46.000And then they give us a choice that isn't a choice at all, and then conservatives, so-called conservatives, call me a liberal because I'm against Bush for open borders, Bush is for the assault of his man, Bush is for UNESCO, Bush is for the free trade area of the Americas, Bush is for all this stuff, and they act like he's the leader of some football team.
01:34:04.000They even sell t-shirts where it's a W on a football helmet and imply their football team has won.
01:34:50.000I want to go to some calls, Red, but before we do that, get more into what the jury's supposed to operate as and some of these new rulings that you're so excited about.
01:35:03.000You know, talk about the jury, how juries are supposed to operate, and you were telling me this morning there's a lot of rulings you're excited about.
01:35:16.000Well, I think that, you know, the U.S.
01:35:20.000Supreme Court, we've got a bunch of old-timers on there now, and I think it may be that they're hanging on because they see the handwriting on the wall and they're going to try to make a change.
01:35:35.000That decision a year ago about the death penalty cases, where they said the judge can't sentence the death penalty, but the jury can.
01:35:44.000The jury, they said, basically the jury has the power, not the judge.
01:35:49.000And the Blakely v. Washington case came out in June of this year, and they said the judge cannot Go and sentence somebody to more than what the sentencing guidelines call for.
01:37:00.000Therefore, he cannot make any finding of fact or conclusion of law in a tax case because he has a conflict of interest.
01:37:10.000Therefore, a 7th Amendment common law jury They are the ones who have to settle this controversy that I have with the federal government through the IRS.
01:37:24.000Supreme Court has made a number of decisions now in these last eight years that indicate that they recognize what I said and what I'm saying and how important it is.
01:37:52.000Well, I think that there's a great deal of confusion in the legal profession.
01:37:57.000The legal profession, you see, for over 200 years, have tried to let the 7th Amendment fall through the cracks.
01:38:06.000And if I've got time here before the next break, I'd like to read the 7th Amendment.
01:38:11.000Yeah, go ahead and read it and we'll go to calls.
01:38:13.000In suits at common law where the value in controversy shall exceed $20, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law.
01:38:32.000Well, that really means the Supreme Court can't even do stuff without having a jury.
01:38:51.000Supreme Court sat, and they argued the case, and a jury made the decision.
01:38:56.000They sat and argued the case before a jury.
01:39:00.000The jury, the court, like the Blakely v. Washington case and the death penalty case, the Supreme Court is saying, hey, the jury's the one with the power.
01:39:38.000And here's an example of someone just producing something new.
01:39:42.000Judge Walter Smith in 1999 says to the Davidians in the civil trial, you don't get a jury, I am going to decide.
01:39:51.000Then we protested, so he appointed his own quote, advisatory jury, and he said it would have no effect on the outcome.
01:39:58.000I mean, how did they just invent stuff?
01:40:00.000Well, that's going to come to a screech and scream and all, because The 7th Amendment is the most important of the 10 articles of the Bill of Rights.
01:40:12.000The 7th is by far the most important, and the reason is, you look at the 5 clauses of the 1st Amendment, and the ACLU and those kind of organizations, they love that 1st Amendment, they love the 4th Amendment, they love the 5th Amendment.
01:40:27.000How do you get recourse if some bureaucrat violates your free speech or your free press or your freedom to assemble?
01:41:41.000And it will forcibly, psychologically test every child, even if they're private school or homeschooled, by law, twice a year, every adult once a year, to get the federal funds.
01:41:50.000Illinois is about to make adults do it.
01:42:00.000Well, what I wanted to tell you, Alex, is that the Senate's supposed to reconvene this week to make a vote on it through a, what is it, a Labor, Health, and Human Services... No, I know, and Ron Paul and others has got a bill to defeat it.
01:42:13.000That's why we got Ron Paul lined up later this week.
01:42:18.000Okay, yeah, the Senate's supposed to reconvene this week to make a vote on it through what's called the Labor, Health, and Human Services and Education Appropriations Bill.
01:42:33.000And again, already with federal funds in ten states they're doing it with the children.
01:42:38.000This will make it the law, this is in the bill, where they actually send, not even psychiatrists, which is quackery as well, but bureaucrats who will come to your door if you're a homeschooler and But order you to turn your child over to them, upwards in some cases of a week, to go to a psychiatric institution.
01:42:57.000Everyone will have to go, and in the schools they're going to be turned into giant mind control laboratories.
01:43:03.000Even the British Medical Journal has said the same thing I'm saying.
01:43:06.000Red, are we living in the Twilight Zone?
01:43:12.000But I'll tell you, this is the kind of law that is going to get a lot more people informed and get them alerted and it's going to backfire on them.
01:43:25.000A lot of people don't realize that the homeschooling, not the homeschooling, the school busing thing, you know what brought the school busing thing down?
01:43:37.000A federal judge who was trying to order children to ride a school bus was asked, when were these children convicted of a crime that gave the judge any jurisdiction whatever over that child to where they could sentence that child.
01:43:55.000Now, when that bureaucrat shows up at your door and wants to examine your children, You get his name and you get, you know, his name and his organization, whoever he's representing, and you say, wait a minute.
01:44:11.000My child, and nor I, we've never been convicted of a crime, and you don't sentence us to anything.
01:44:18.000You don't order us around for anything.
01:44:21.000Because not until we have been convicted of a crime by a jury does the government have any jurisdiction over our persons.
01:44:32.000I totally agree with you, but again, here in Austin, your child is late to class three times.
01:44:47.000The state law says 14 unexcused absences in a semester is criminal, but under color of law, it's not even a law, Red, they say, okay, you've been late to class three times, this is to get the most number of kids in the system.
01:45:00.000The portable building is turned into a courtroom.
01:45:42.000Cops without warrants, without orders, without anything, routinely go to houses and grab people's children with CPS!
01:45:48.000I mean, it's not their, it's their criminals!
01:45:51.000Uh, we have, we have a disbarred lawyer, he was, he was a district, an assistant district attorney down here in Portland, Oregon.
01:45:59.000that uh... was disbarred and he has been battling this and uh... he's had quite a bit of success and uh... uh... over the last fifteen or sixteen years he has spent two hundred and ninety days or so in jail on contempt charges but now uh... he won't quit he has not backed off and uh... he uh... is now uh... credited with uh...
01:46:26.000Yeah, I don't know how many different judges losing their jobs, and this and that, and he goes, when he goes into court now, they pay attention.
01:46:34.000Now, he is legal, he's got his law degree, and the whole thing, but he's not a member of the bar.
01:46:42.000And these kind of things are happening all over this country.
01:48:19.000And to show you something about how you've had some useful idiots, and I guess some people who are basically stooges for the system speaking up for it, they keep claiming it's to keep track of inventory, but point of fact, use logic.
01:48:31.000No, this new announcement they admit is to make sure that bottle of pills is yours!
01:48:36.000Well, many people saying it's to make sure of large inventories.
01:48:39.000However, If we're talking about prescription medication, there's no concern with inventory because a customer couldn't steal it off the shelf.
01:48:45.000It comes in large bottles that are then put in the dosages that are given to the citizens.
01:49:01.000Hey, we've had our people at the RFID conferences They openly say, from the factory, to the warehouse, to the store, to your home, to the landfill, and they're putting in this wireless internet, they admit that's going to be used to scan all the RFID in your clothes, on your person.
01:49:20.000In fact, the Pentagon just came out and called it, we're going to have a God-like control grid, that's a quote, to know everything!
01:49:28.000Hey, Red, does that sound like freedom, a god-like power?
01:49:31.000I'll tell ya, you know, in my book, Why the Militia, the 14th chapter, the title on the chapter, the heading on the chapter is, Is the Federal Government a False God?
01:49:45.000Well, now, all over they keep calling it god-like omnipresent power.
01:49:51.000That's in the Pentagon paper that just came out.
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01:54:09.000Legislation they tried to pass in Oregon, where Downloading music illegally or getting in a fist fight gets you life in prison.
01:56:26.000Dogs to sniff out drugs and weapons for simple traffic stops.
01:56:31.000Now they say it looked as though the Supreme Court was inclined to go along with that in Illinois, even though the Illinois State Court, as per the Illinois Constitution, said it was unconstitutional.
01:56:40.000Why it's even in front of the federal court when the state of Illinois chooses to protect its people under its state constitution for that kind of intrusion, I don't know.
01:56:50.000Any legal scholar would have to scratch their head about that.
01:56:52.000But what they're trying to do is say if they stop you for speeding or running a stop sign, they could bring the old drug and bomb sniffing dogs out.
01:58:50.000Of course, was involved in the Army Intelligence, and then had one of the biggest, if not the biggest, financial newsletters in the country for decades.
01:58:59.000An expert on the economy is Bob Chapman, and I know we have Kevin and Fred and Ed and so many people that are patiently holding out.
01:59:12.000I've got a ton of news I want to throw out on our guests as well, so we'll kind of be a free-for-all.
01:59:37.000All right, you guys are here together, and I'm going to read you both separately many times over the years.
01:59:42.000But, Red, Bob's been talking about the dollar plunging, and Bush has been openly out bad-mouthing it and bringing us into the free trade area of the Americas.
02:01:13.000I believe that the dollar and euro terms on the near term over the next year will go down 30% more.
02:01:20.000In other words, the euro which is trading right now around $129.75 or almost $1.30, will probably go to $160, maybe $165.
02:01:31.000And that's part of the destruction of the dollar caused by tremendous fiscal and monetary debt, personal debt in the United States, which has become overwhelming.
02:01:44.000And in the meantime, the price of gold will go up considerably higher, and it'll become more inflationary, and silver will go up as well.
02:01:57.000And I think in the final analysis, the gentleman is correct in as much as I do believe that they will back their new world currency once they put it into operation with gold.
02:02:11.000And I'd like to address that just briefly, and that is that I expect that the introduction will be quicker than 2020.
02:02:23.000And I also believe that the central bank selling that we've witnessed over the past several years ...has been instigated by what I call elitists, and... Well, I'll tell you what, Bob, we've got a break.
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02:05:52.000All right, my friends, your calls are coming up here real quick.
02:06:01.000We're talking to Red Beckman and of course we're talking to Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster.
02:06:08.000Bob, continuing with your analysis of what's happening to the dollar, and unfortunately your predictions have been spot on, I want to hear more about that, but then also, how the American people, I mean I talked to some poor immigrant from Mexico who was farming corn two years ago, they know what it, and by ignorant I mean they don't have any education, They know all about what it means to have a bad currency.
02:06:49.000Well, as I was saying, in relation to the backing of a new world currency with gold, over the last several years, central banks have been sellers of gold.
02:07:01.000Those central banks are controlled by individuals who have in fact been the actual buyers of that gold.
02:07:09.000And so when they go to this world currency, those elitists who have garnered all of this gold, and it could be as much as 20 or 25 or 30 or 40 percent of all the gold that's out there, they will stand to gain a great deal.
02:07:27.000This has even been in the mainstream news.
02:07:30.000But in the back of the financial papers, the big gold mines have sued The Rothschild Banks and others, and the Federal Reserve, because these private families sell themselves, because let's say they've got five banks, they sell gold at reduced prices between each other, it never even leaves their own hands, to drive down gold artificially so they can then buy up the rest of it at low prices.
02:07:54.000Then the Euros, 30% gold backed, the dollar starts plunging.
02:08:00.000I just wanted to elaborate on that for people to understand how serious this is.
02:08:05.000In addition to that, and in conjunction with what you just said, there is a lawsuit pending, and it's coming to trial in April in New Orleans, Federal District Court, of Blanchard & Company against JPMorgan Chase and Barrick Gold, which is a producer of gold, saying that they were rigging the market.
02:08:22.000And Barrick has already said that they should be exempted from the suit, which the judge threw out.
02:08:27.000By the way, Barrick is the... On behalf of Central Banks.
02:09:18.000Red, they openly say they're going to dismantle our financial system, and people are cheering over it.
02:09:25.000Yeah, well, back in 19, well it was Labor Day week of 1984, I was a speaker at an investors conference in Orlando, Florida.
02:09:39.000And each evening they had an open forum, and the one evening they had the open forum on the hard money.
02:09:47.000And most of the so-called gurus, recognized gurus at that point, were there, and they were on the platform, and each one of them was given a two-and-a-half-minute time to give a little prognosis of what they saw coming.
02:10:05.000And they were all agreed that by 1987 we would have a $3,500 minimum on gold and $100 on silver.
02:10:15.000And then they opened it up, and there was a lot of...
02:10:28.000And the reason it was the last rally, as we find out, is that illegally, the Federal Reserve and the U.S.
02:10:33.000Did it not, Bob? - Yeah, it went up in 1986, but that was the last rally.
02:10:38.000And the reason it was the last rally, as we find out, is that illegally, the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury, during the debacle in 1987 in the stock market, they went in and held the stock market up and they suppressed gold.
02:10:53.000And then in 1988, Ronald Reagan signed an executive order allowing for the working market, we call it the Punch Protection Team, the working group on financial markets to come into being and also the Federal Reserve to be able to continue at will to suppress or increase the prices on the stock exchanges in the bond markets and in commodities.
02:11:21.000Let's go back and let Red finish the point.
02:11:24.000You're at this financial conference speaking.
02:11:26.000I had an opportunity then, of course, from the floor to speak, and I said that we would not have $3,500 gold because I was from the West and I knew what was happening out here as far as the gold mining was concerned. gold because I was from the West and I knew And I used to keep my finger on that whole situation.
02:11:51.000I used to keep it pretty close and understood pretty well what was happening.
02:11:56.000And I brought out to that audience that This massive amount of production of gold that was going on, even at that time.
02:12:08.000There were new mines that were coming online every day, almost.
02:12:12.000Of course, I gave a little history of how Nixon had deregulated gold and all, and I said these international bankers, and particularly the Federal Reserve bankers, are the ones that were buying all the gold.
02:12:29.000I told the audience, I said, everybody's asking the wrong question.
02:12:35.000We've got this massive production of gold, and gold was about $400 at that point.
02:12:40.000And I said, nobody's asking the right question.
02:13:01.000And I said, you'll be surprised when you find out what they're paying for.
02:13:05.000And I said, they're paying only 10 cents an ounce.
02:13:08.000and And of course, gold was about $400 an ounce at that point.
02:13:14.000So I had to explain that at that point, the Federal Reserve bankers were buying $100 Federal Reserve notes from the U.S.
02:13:23.000Treasury Department, or the press, the federal press there in Washington, and they were buying them for $0.02 apiece at that point.
02:13:33.000Again, let me comment on this, because now they're admitting in the media that the Federal Reserve is private, but they're saying, oh, it's good that they are.
02:13:42.000They create these notes, these pieces of paper, they charge us for the interest, and then they use the money they create out of nothing with fractional reserve banking, and they buy up real assets like gold and airports and jumbo jets and tanks.
02:13:58.000Let me get a comment from Bob Chapman on that.
02:14:03.000Well, that's entirely true, and you can follow this each week by looking at the increases and decreases in M3, which is money and credit in general.
02:14:16.000And the increase this year has been 6.5 percent, but interestingly, most of the major nations are around 9 to 10 percent.
02:14:25.000But what the Fed does is they go into the repurchase market every day.
02:15:11.000The banks then take the money and go to the agents of the Fed, who in fact are large brokerage firms such as Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, etc, etc.
02:15:22.000And they take this money and they have been told ahead of time, today you're going to rig the Dow and make it go up, you're going to make bonds go down, you're going to suppress gold and silver and oil and gas, and this is your job for the day.
02:15:35.000And right now, On an ongoing basis, the repo pulled a $71 billion.
02:15:42.000Yesterday they increased it by $10 billion.
02:15:45.000And so if you watch these figures, you can see them create money every single day, and they are manipulating all markets all over the world.
02:15:56.000It is a tiny group of elites creating money out of nothing and buying up the world for it, and then taking your house when you don't pay back a debt that they created out of thin air.
02:16:06.000Folks, if you want a copy of the International Forecaster for free that covers all of this, and it's lengthy, what, 30-something pages?
02:16:43.000I was going from memory. 877-479-8178.
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02:16:59.000We're going to break here, and then I want to come back and take calls from Jeff, and Kevin, and Fred, and Ed, and Bob, and everybody else that's patiently holding callers.
02:17:10.000Just have your question, your comment.
02:17:12.000We're going to move on to the next person.
02:17:13.000I want to give everybody a chance to get involved on air.
02:17:16.000Again, I want to thank both our guests, Red Beckman, grandfather, of the fully-informed jury movement in this country, expose the IRS as well.
02:17:23.000Of course, Bob Chapman, whose predictions are just spot-on, as they say, legendary.
02:17:30.000So we're honored to have both of these formidable minds on with us today.
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02:22:11.000This is the New World Order, my friends.
02:22:15.000And we're talking to Red Beckman, we're talking to...
02:22:17.000Of course, Bob Chapman, we'll give that number out again later to get a free copy of the International Forecaster.
02:22:22.000We'll also give you an address to get some of the videos and books that Brett Beckman's put together.
02:22:27.000Right now, gentlemen, let's go to calls for those that have been holding since time immemorial.
02:22:34.000Jeff in Indiana, go ahead, you're on the air.
02:22:36.000It's also about destroying you by the legal system to just become subject myself to a frivolous lawsuit that's amounted to $2.7 million.
02:22:46.000It was a written contract dispute where another party said that they had a previous oral contract and the judge felt that he needed to control the jury to come to a ruling that ended up settling this $2.7 million.
02:23:03.000Well I can and I can also file bankruptcy and bring it into a federal court and I've got a couple different remedies in that sense but the thing is I already have $40,000 in Legal expenses that will never be recovered.
02:23:17.000My question, I guess, to Red is, you know, what do you do to educate a jury before you go into a legal situation like that?
02:23:23.000Or is our best hope we're just supposed to educate the whole world as to, you know, the proper way to be on a jury?
02:23:30.000It's almost impossible to educate a jury where you're into a court with an admiralty or equity jurisdiction.
02:23:39.000This is why the 7th Amendment is so vital that we have to bring back our common law courts because in a common law court you can educate that jury right in the courtroom and explain to them their constitutionally secured right To judge the law and the facts in the case.
02:24:03.000If you're in a court where the jury is subject to the judge, that's your equity and your admiralty jurisdictions, they won't let you educate that jury in that courtroom.
02:24:17.000Okay, because that's exactly the situation.
02:24:19.000I've got a judge that, you know, Tell the jury that you know all the oral argument that anybody wants to put on and everything in the world can be hearsay and you're supposed to accept that as being gospel.
02:24:30.000There's got to be some way to be able to keep control over that activist judge so that he isn't able to take You know, all the laws of the world and muddy them into grey to where there's just no justice for anybody.
02:24:40.000You know, my wife has just become drafted for jury service and I'm trying to explain to her how she's got to go in and do this in two weeks because that's the basis of our world.
02:24:49.000To make sure that people understand what's out there and that people, the right type of people are on juries doing the right thing.
02:25:26.000Revelation chapter 13 verses 16 through 18 tell you that Satan's going to force everyone to take the Mark of the Beast.
02:25:33.000Revelation 14 verses 9 through 12 say that anyone that takes it does not enter Heaven.
02:25:40.000We are fighting an Infowar, but it's a real war.
02:25:42.000When I heard Red Beckman saying how you are having such a powerful effect and that the criminals in our government are afraid of us and how, you know, the people are waking up, I wanted to call in.
02:25:53.000I called in to NPR another time and got through.
02:25:55.000I actually was able to get the website, Infowars.com, out there.
02:26:00.000And the whole call is just a little over a minute.
02:26:02.000I was wondering if I could play my exchange where they were promoting Blair with Dick Gordon.
02:26:07.000This was off the website for their archive.
02:26:20.000I think Bush is receiving Blair because Blair and Bush, Bush is the only real reliable foreign ally in the war.
02:26:26.000They have a symbiotic relationship where they prop each other up.
02:26:29.000They've always shared a uniquely close relationship.
02:26:32.000I mean, George Bush is the, you know, 18th Great-grandson of Robert II of Scotland.
02:26:39.000They literally have some blood relatives if you go back far enough.
02:26:44.000I also think that... And are you saying that that's a good thing for the countries then?
02:26:48.000Regardless of what today's political demands draw them together, is it a good thing for America and Britain, and by extension Europe, that they do have this need for each other?
02:27:02.000Well, I don't know whether it's good or bad.
02:27:04.000I think it is why they both receive each other.
02:27:08.000America separated from England back in the Revolutionary War, but with World War I, World War II, they've continued right up through today to move closer.
02:27:17.000Blair had Dr. Kelly suicided for Bush's weapons of mass destruction excuse for war, and they both serve the same autography of New World bankers.
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02:30:51.000Before we go back to calls and just cover some of the topical news of the day and get the perspectives of Red Beckman and Bob Chapman, Red, you offer a little booklet that's excellent, Walls and Our Minds, for just a couple dollars.
02:31:13.000Well, we say, I do this on talk shows, anyone who will send us three $1 bills, we'll send them a copy of this book.
02:31:23.000And, uh, my address now is, uh, Common Sense Press, uh, just C- P- C- C- S- P, and it's P-O-Box-6-1, Carrolls, Washington, C-A-R-R-O-L-L-S, Washington, 9-8-6-0-9, and if they'll send me three one dollar bills, it'll, the book'll come first class,
02:31:51.000We don't make any money on it, because the postage is well over a dollar.
02:31:56.000But it'll come first class, and you'll get a list of all of our books and tapes that are available.
02:32:34.000And one more time, folks, if you want a free copy of the International Forecaster, The network's giving them out for free, thanks to Bob Chapman letting us do that.
02:32:56.000We already got Red's comment on this as a veteran.
02:32:59.000I know that Bob Chapman is a veteran with military intelligence, army intelligence.
02:33:05.000In the past, we weren't known for killing wounded people.
02:33:09.000A day after they've taken over a mosque, another group of Marines went in to relieve the others, and they just walk over with pleasure to somebody, these guys are all bleeding to death, some already dead, and shoot the guy.
02:33:21.000Bob, I thought they were bad because they shot our wounded people, but how is it good if our troops do that?
02:33:32.000Nothing is released that the Pentagon doesn't want released out of NBC or CBS or Fox or ABC.
02:33:37.000I believe they're releasing it to enrage the Arabs.
02:33:40.000We even have Pentagon memos on this, like P-2-O-G, to cause the Arabs to fight more, to spread the war, so the globalists can keep the war going longer and make more hundreds of billions each year.
02:33:52.000I agree with you completely, and of course there's no justification for shooting anybody who's down and out and, you know, probably ready to die anyway.
02:34:02.000And I've never seen that happen in warfare that I've been involved in, although I'm sure it does.
02:34:10.000People get enraged in warfare, and sometimes rightly so.
02:34:15.000But I do think that they want to spread the war further.
02:34:19.000They were just taken aback when Iran decided that they were not going to develop anything in the nuclear area.
02:34:28.000And so they don't have a ready excuse to invade Iran.
02:34:35.000And I know they want to extend the war.
02:34:38.000And I also know, like you do, that they also want to implement a draft For two reasons, so they'll have enough troops to do all the invading they want, and also to control the young people of the country.
02:34:51.000And on top of that, when we look at what happened there, yes, in war, prisoners get shot sometimes, but people get in trouble for it.
02:34:59.000You know, we're supposedly the good guys.
02:35:01.000But the point here is, the story is the defense of this guy, and Marine Corps officers, You know, saying, these aren't human beings, they deserve to die, so what?
02:35:13.000And the public defending it, that's the change.
02:35:18.000Yeah, it was no accident that there was a camera there to catch that.
02:35:24.000Well, NBC admittedly, the Pentagon let them release this!
02:35:29.000And so, it just, it's PR, it's public relations, And you know, we might not understand all their motivation and all that, but I can assure you it was not good Americanism that caused it.
02:36:04.000Okay, I mean, I could go with so many things, geopolitical or law enforcement, but let me go with this law enforcement and focus on search warrants.
02:36:16.000I came across something, I'm not absolutely sure, but I came across something around 1990, just a personal experience in my own life, where There are on a local basis, like cities, big cities or counties, local law enforcement has access to search warrant mills.
02:36:38.000These search warrants, and I would estimate that it's been from like the early to mid 80s to...
02:36:44.000Yeah, the Fourth Amendment says you've got to have a witness, the particular thing you're looking for, what you're alleging, and now it's just rubber stamps where judges just sit there signing hundreds of forms a day.
02:37:39.000Well, I also wanted to mention that you had, in Montana, I want to listen to the Gordon Liddy Show, I guess about 12 years ago, you had a woman call up named Jessica, and they had raided a preparedness group in Montana.
02:37:58.000Uh, with a, uh, a piece of paper, but it didn't really, it didn't have a judge's signature at the bottom.
02:38:03.000Yeah, they do that, they do that all the time, but I mean... Alright.
02:38:07.000Uh, speaking of spying on you, 400,000 truck drivers, cable men and women, phone people, uh, the gas meter reader, carpet cleaners.
02:38:18.000The cops aren't supposed to come in without a warrant, but then their warrants are flimsy.
02:38:22.000But now we have this thing, which has been going on for decades, but now it's public, of quote, fighting terror and crime under Homeland Security.
02:38:28.000Oh, spy on people when they're in the house.
02:38:32.000Or, if you see a man and woman arguing on the side of the street, call the police.
02:38:36.000These are the things in the information booklets they're being given.
02:38:39.000The TIPS program was actually expanded under a new name.
02:38:46.000I think it's all part and parcel of the extension of the Patriot Act, and I think it's just going to get considerably worse, and we're going to become prisoners in our own country.
02:39:00.000We're going to go to Ed and Bob, and maybe one more caller here in a second, but I've got a couple different articles I want to get Your take on here, gentlemen.
02:39:07.000Ohio recount all but certain third-party candidates raise enough cash to demand another tally of the state's votes.
02:39:14.000World and Daily, the Green Party and the Libertarian Party, are doing this.
02:39:18.000But the problem is, the same guy, Mr. Blackwell, their Secretary of State, who wouldn't count 400,000 provisional ballots that were obviously for Kerry, they admit, well, Bush only won by 130,000 votes.
02:39:31.000But we can't get a real recount because the same people are over the recount.
02:39:37.000Well, I don't think that they have any intention of doing anything, and no matter how much money you collect to make the demand for a recount, you're not going to get it.
02:39:49.000Yeah, well, I had mentioned earlier, when I ran for governor in Montana in 1988, Uh, that we had all of the vote fraud and it was so well documented and, uh, and so, I mean, the evidence was so solid.
02:40:04.000But the Secretary of State, of course, when this was presented to him, he said, oh, we gotta do something.
02:40:13.000Okay, in the last two weeks, a woman selling knock-off Rubik's Cubes, they admit were legal, was visited by two Homeland Security officers at her tiny business in St.
02:40:25.000They told her with no judge's order, no nothing, take it off the shelf or you'll be arrested under terrorism.
02:40:31.000That was in the Associated Press, but we interviewed her.
02:40:34.000Then a doctor, a veteran of Gulf War I, called and complained too much.
02:40:40.000The Quad City Times reported that the Homeland Security officer admitted that he didn't threaten anybody, but calling too much was an act of terrorism.
02:41:07.000They disrupted and dispatched agents to her office to ask about her.
02:41:11.000They took away her garbage in trucks with their cars and they questioned one of her housemates.
02:41:18.000Turns out that Swift had a Middle Eastern man living there with no terror connections.
02:41:23.000He had Middle Eastern friends over for a holiday weekend.
02:41:25.000The neighbor who complained on Herb and who turned Swift into the county government also has complained in the past on code violations of her grass being too tall.
02:43:01.00050 conservative groups and liberal groups have gotten together decrying this new national ID card that we already have at the state level, as well as Patriot Act 2.
02:43:10.000Major pressure on this bill that could leave the Congress as early as next week and go to the President's desk.
02:43:51.000He's the guy that wrote the memos to the Pentagon saying, don't worry, go ahead and torture people.
02:43:56.000We are above the law, international and federal, that the president's under Congress, folks.
02:44:05.000This is the guy who openly said the President makes the law, he is the law, he's also the architect of the enemy combatant designation, saying they can secretly arrest American citizens.
02:44:16.000This does not surprise me at all, and of course it's going to be interesting when the Senate Takes up his confirmation whether he's going to be confirmed as the new Attorney General.
02:44:30.000I think they probably will because of the name, his Hispanic name.
02:44:35.000They're going to be perhaps afraid to be in too much opposition because they might be called a racist or something.
02:44:43.000But the man is probably far more dangerous than the one that just resigned.
02:44:49.000Well, this is the guy that was the brain!
02:44:51.000I wrote an article for this week's International Forecast, a forecast that we publish weekly by Internet.
02:44:58.000And I went over some of the things that you said, Alex, and some others.
02:45:03.000And one of the things, too, that this man is very, very positive or behind, and that is illegal immigration and the citizenship for the 15 million illegals that are in our country.
02:45:19.000I know, and plus he doesn't want to tell parents when your 12 year old is having an abortion, he's for gun control.
02:45:25.000And conservatives are just, oh we love him, it's just like they love Arnold.
02:45:34.000Must wear student IDs, fight In town, Christian Science Monitor, a few years ago in Louisiana, a big school, first five kids, then ten, then a hundred.
02:45:45.000They all said, we're not wearing IDs, they had to remove them.
02:45:48.000Well now, Christian Science Monitor, popular Polar Bluff, Missouri.
02:45:52.000There's usually not much to report from the town of 17,000 in the foothills of southeastern Missouri.
02:45:58.000Crime is low, traffic is slow, and the locals like to point visitors to the town's namesake, a blanket of tulip polar trees hugging the bluff of the Black River.
02:46:09.000But 1,300 students cram the hallways of the bluff's only public school, and Superintendent Randy Winston is the first to admit that it is nearly impossible to know anybody by face, let alone by name.
02:46:23.000Then it goes on, and yet, when he announced in late October that all students and staff must wear ID badges while on school grounds, a few parents and then a slew of students put up quite a fuss.
02:46:33.000Some called it Orwellian, citing Big Brother and his omnipresent eye.
02:46:37.000Others declared it a nuisance, saying only visitors should have to wear badges.
02:46:40.000One father even pulled his two daughters out of the school in protest.
02:46:44.000and it says across the country IDs are becoming the norm, but it talks about how there's this big fight and they may have to pull them.
02:46:57.000I just hope that they stick to their guns and there's going to be some pressure on them.
02:47:05.000They're going to have pressure put on them because of their stand, And, uh, I just hope and pray that they, uh, stand firm and, uh, you know, don't, don't give in.
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02:53:18.000In fact, you are having a lot of impact on the national news media, because I heard them badmouthing you on some national shows, which means it's a good thing.
02:53:48.000Well, okay, Red, you are right about Russia.
02:53:51.000In fact, it was reported in the American Free Press newspaper, the real reason they threw David Duke in jail.
02:53:57.000And he is over in Russia, after the release in the English language of his book, Jewish Supremacism.
02:54:03.000And that's why I called you today, Alex.
02:54:06.000The fact is that Colonel Don DeGrand Prix has also, Donald, what was he talking about?
02:54:11.0009-11 being a coup, but he has talked about the brewing counter-coup.
02:54:16.000And I think we're seeing signs of that with this CIA supposed shake-up.
02:54:19.000What it is, is Porter Goss trying to run out some patriots there.
02:54:23.000And the fact is, is that the Israeli Mossad, I don't know if you know this Alex, but New Zealand's President Helen Clark, last September, cut off diplomatic relations with Israel.
02:54:32.000No, I know, they call it infiltrators.
02:54:35.000I gotta let you go, let me just say this.
02:54:37.000Everybody knows, I don't think the New World Order is a Jewish conspiracy.
02:54:44.000But, clearly, Israel is spying and blackmailing, and so are the British, and this is what our government does, and it's out of control, and it's bad.
02:54:54.000But look, I don't agree with David Duke, but I agree that he shouldn't be arrested for his political views, like Ernst Zundel, a political prisoner for his views.
02:55:02.000Because if they can arrest them, they can arrest us for our views about anything, like the arrest of that guy for having a shirt that said, Peace on Earth against the war.
02:55:10.000Final comments on this from Red Beckman and Bob Jetman.
02:55:14.000You know, no one has really done a real thorough and a complete job of identifying or defining terrorism.
02:55:22.000Terrorism is practiced more by governments.
02:55:29.000Governments are the worst terrorists in all of history.
02:55:32.000Always have been and always will be the worst terrorists.
02:56:07.000I agree with Red, and I just think that people have to become aware that the people of Washington are trying to put us into a police state.
02:56:16.000And they're doing a good job of it, and we better stop them fast.
02:56:20.000Sorry to Bob and Rick and everybody else we didn't have a chance to get to.
02:56:23.000Back tonight, 9 to Midnight Central, on your shortwave at 3210, during the day at 9.985, or InfoWars.com, or your local AM or FM.
02:56:32.000Now get out there and take on the New World Order.