USA Today asks the question, should the Constitution be amended for Arnold Schwarzenegger to run for president? Alex talks about this and much more on today's episode of the Alex Jones Show. Alex also discusses the dangers of RFID chips and how they can be used to spy on us.
00:01:16.000And then of course, obviously, we're going to talk a little bit about Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:01:20.000Not a lot, because I've got a bunch of other news here that I want to cover.
00:01:26.000But Arnold Schwarzenegger's move to amend the Constitution, so he can run for El Presidente, picked up a lot of steam on Monday when George Herbert Walker Bush said, don't bet against Arnold, this guy's gonna get it, this is gonna be your President, basically is what he said.
00:01:45.000Well now USA Today, their main cover front page story today, should the Constitution be amended for Arnold?
00:01:56.000And they've got law professors and experts in here going, obviously he's already running.
00:02:00.000He just knows how unpopular it gets if he announces that it's for himself.
00:02:05.000I'm in the Constitution just for a candidate?
00:02:08.000And that's what this really is, so that's why he's being covert.
00:02:12.000But he's always said that he wants to be President, and he's been pushing for it.
00:02:16.000And yes, yours truly and ArnoldExposed.com is quoted in the article.
00:02:22.000This is really the fairest mainstream news article I've seen of the scores that have been out there, but that isn't saying much.
00:02:30.000It's still pretty positive for Lord Schwarzenegger.
00:02:35.000Even though the author who I talked to last week told me on the phone that he thinks Arnold's a big creep.
00:02:43.000And we had a lot of other discussions that I'm not at liberty to talk about, but that's just classic.
00:02:49.000Even people that know he's a big creep The author of this article, Michael Kassendorf, Martin Kassendorf, excuse me, has been covering Arnold for years!
00:03:34.000We've now, according to even their own admissions, gotten more visitors to ArnoldExposed.com.
00:03:41.000Though we have only been launched for about a third of the time they've been launched, we've now had more visitors than the amend for Arnold crowd.
00:03:51.000Over 6 million individual visitors in the last two weeks to ArnoldExposed.com.
00:03:57.000And they've gotten wall-to-wall TV coverage 90-plus times what we've gotten.
00:04:02.000We've been on CNN once for 30 seconds, 25 seconds.
00:04:05.000They've been 10 minutes, 5 minutes, 4 minutes on every major news show you can imagine.
00:04:11.000Alright, that aside, I'm not going to spend really any more time on that today.
00:04:15.000I might read a few of the quotes out of the article.
00:04:18.000A bone-chilling call yesterday at the end of the broadcast.
00:04:22.000The caller called in, and the caller said, I'm going to play the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw.
00:04:32.000One of the last things he said on the show.
00:04:49.000Where they said that if they don't take their retina scan ID card and they get out of line, get away from their house, they'll be shot on sight.
00:04:57.000We'll talk about that when we get back, too.
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00:09:37.000Al Martin is reporting, and I spent an hour on Google trying to confirm this and couldn't, that the Silver Fox, Marcus Wolfe, the head of the Stasi, Uh, has been hired by the U.S.
00:11:37.000But the caller, we're about to re-air this, said, well, and we've since found the transcript that confirmed that indeed the audio you're about to hear was the nightly news on NBC two nights ago.
00:11:49.000He's got this reporter in Fallujah, and the reporter chillingly talks about how they've kicked 200,000 plus people out of Fallujah, how they're going to let them in a few thousand at a time, and how they're given ID cards with a retina scan and a thumbprint, finger scans on it, And that they're only allowed to be around their house and to certain designated areas.
00:12:13.000If they're caught leaving those areas, they can be shot dead.
00:13:24.000And I want to remind you that in 1999, I flew from Austin, Texas to Oakland, California, and for an entire week, Videotaped 5,000 Marines and over 3,000 other foreign troops.
00:14:10.000You know, they're interrogating the militia resistance fighter who didn't want to turn his guns in.
00:14:16.000They wouldn't let us see the rest of the... and he was, by the way, doing thumb scanning.
00:14:19.000And then being given an ID card and taking a digital face scan as well.
00:14:23.000And I remember, they're making almost everybody in Iraq take ID cards when they first got there.
00:14:28.000Also, if you work at key infrastructure, you have to wear a little RFID bracelet.
00:14:33.000We knew all that, but now, if you don't have it, we're going to shoot you.
00:14:38.000And they had an Army report earlier this year, 75 to 90 percent of those taken to any of the 32 camps in Iraq, not just Abu Ghraib, were families stopped at checkpoints who didn't have their IDs in order.
00:14:53.000Well now they just won't take you to a camp for torture to break up your family and take the husband and torture him.
00:14:57.000Or rape your children in front of you.
00:14:59.000That's admitted in the Army's own report.
00:15:00.000Or kill your wife in front of you or beat you to death and laugh about it.
00:15:03.000Blow off some steam as Rush Limbaugh said.
00:15:14.000And they don't have water, they don't have power, you gotta stay in your house, hope they bring you food, you gotta stay in your house and die, and if you come anywhere outside your yard, outside around your house, or one of the little aid centers, you will be machine-gunned to death.
00:17:02.000We've got the file up there where we did this interview, but I thought I'd give it to you in better audio quality, because you take it off the net, put it back on the net, stream it back on the radio, it degrades the audio quality.
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00:19:42.000I'm Alex Jones, your host, and we'll play the NBC clip on the other side.
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00:24:19.000All right, now we're going to go to the last couple minutes of yesterday's broadcast where we have Tom Brokaw interviewing an NBC reporter there on the ground in Iraq talking about just this unlimited now we're going to go to the last couple minutes of yesterday's broadcast where we have They're going to use lethal force to kill people if they break the rules necessarily.
00:24:59.000The government admits that Serbia has been used as a war game drill for here in the U.S. and other areas for urban warfare suppression of populations and occupation.
00:25:17.000I happened to tape the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw last night, and they were covering the Iraq war, and guess what?
00:25:24.000They are going to biometrically scan the people of Fallujah with eye scans.
00:25:29.000And they also made it clear that they were going to shoot to kill anybody that doesn't conform to the law.
00:25:34.000I mean, and they didn't say insurgent, they made it clear it was when they let the citizens back into the city to reclaim whatever's left of it.
00:25:58.000So far, the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages.
00:26:05.000At first, only a few thousand will be let in.
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00:26:19.000The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules.
00:28:53.000Yeah, the same government that's raping these people Intellectually, psychologically, spiritually, financially, is now going to do that to America.
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00:33:47.000Just nonchalantly, yeah, they're all going to be issued these ID cards with retina scans and thumb scans and they get away from their house.
00:34:14.000Everyone who was appointed by our government that put the new government in there a year ago was appointed over 300 seats and no one is running against any of them.
00:35:53.000The anti-communist fighter, and they set him up, he followed orders, and when he followed orders, they shot him down, they put sanctions on that country, they mass-murdered those people, and now they're gonna create hell on earth, they're gonna straightjacket those people, and then like vampires, just feed on them.
00:36:13.000Our government took the 18-year-old commando, Saddam Hussein, and trained him in Egypt, and then even in the U.S., He went in and killed scores of people, machine-gunned, bombed.
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00:36:30.000Then they helped have a coup d'etat in 1979 for him.
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00:36:37.000funding, he invaded Iran, killed over a million and a half Iranians, which we of course cheered about.
00:38:52.000All these people they're appointing are pro-abortion, pro-open border, pro-gun control.
00:38:57.000The new Homeland Security head, the head New York City cop who helped Cover up 9-11, we have clear evidence of that there on that day.
00:39:06.000It's like General Myers, head of NORAD, got promoted up to Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman.
00:39:12.000I mean, just the whole gut gaggle of these people.
00:39:15.000Alberto, I love Torture Gonzales, just all of them!
00:39:19.000They're just intensifying their hold, and now we have the report that they've hired Mr. Wolf, the head of the SCSI, And this report turned out to be accurate last time of another KGB chief, but it's just getting too weird.
00:39:43.000And again, last week, the head of CENTCOM at CENTRAL COMMAND said, yeah, we've got to control the net and control speech on it because Arab extremists are using it.
00:39:54.000And yeah, it means we'll have to control your net, too.
00:39:57.000You know, Internet, too, is going to take control and make everybody else shut down their websites or go over to their system and it'll all be censored, but it's for your safety.
00:40:09.000Former CIA Director George Tenet called Wednesday for tough new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States using the internet, which he called a potential Achilles' heel for our financial stability and physical security.
00:40:22.000Which, every time they introduce an internet control bill, there's a hack attack that day that leads back to the government, and they go, see, we gotta pass it, we're being attacked.
00:40:30.000They've got, like, 80% of the hackers working for them, folks.
00:40:46.000I know you still think it's free, he continued.
00:40:48.000Tenet told an IT security conference in Washington.
00:40:51.000But ultimately, continuing the quote, but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control.
00:41:03.000The national media, including United States, United Press International, were excluded from the event at Tenet's request.
00:41:10.000Oh, that's freedom, organizers said, but UPI was given an account of the speech by a member of the audience.
00:41:15.000The quotes were verified by a source close to the former director.
00:41:20.000Tenet's speech articulated widely shared concerns among U.S.
00:41:24.000intelligence and homeland security officials that telecommunications, specifically the internet, represent a backdoor through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States can attack the country, even though some progress has been made in securing the physical infrastructure.
00:41:38.000Yes, they've now grabbed control of all the hubs, and now they're announcing they're not going to upgrade those 20 hubs, and they're going to let the net die.
00:41:49.000BBC, AP, Reuters, a few months ago, and they're going to let it fail, and then make you go to Internet 2, where you get a subdomain, and they have very strict rules on what's allowed.
00:42:03.000The Internet, Tennant said, represents a potential Achilles heel of our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected.
00:42:11.000Efforts at physical security will not be enough, he argued, because the thinking enemy That we'll confront is good and is going to school on our network vulnerabilities.
00:42:22.000Leveraging the possibility of the Internet, give them the work anonymously and remotely with little risk of apprehension.
00:42:32.000And he went on to say that we've just got to control and track and restrict and we also now have Again, the head of CENTCOM is saying that they've got to regulate speech on the net.
00:42:51.000And now they say that there is an organized crime providing a nexus between professional hackers and terror groups.
00:42:58.000Oh, hackers are now working with the terrorists.
00:43:30.000The second tier leadership that was emerging, he added, oversaw a global decentralization and decentralized movement with the ability to thrive, depend, crucially, on the internet, which enabled them to share information from explosives recipes for the best ways to get into Iraq undetected.
00:43:48.000So, see, we've got to control the speech, see?
00:43:52.000While the terrorists are sharing information.
00:43:54.000So we've got to go ahead and restrict the net.
00:43:57.000The group, he said, was undoubtedly mapping vulnerabilities and weaknesses in our telecommunications networks.
00:44:06.000This is just... I mean, it just never ends, people.
00:44:10.000It never... There's no end to the levels they will plumb.
00:44:17.000Mandatory mental health screening program would dose pregnant women with prescription drugs that cause birth defects.
00:44:23.000Before I cover this article, yeah, three, four years ago, almost four years ago, there was a press release put out on the letterhead of the governor of Oregon, who was a psychiatrist, saying, we're going to drug women while they're pregnant.
00:44:37.000And then if a baby's, quote, at risk because of their economics or stuff in the background of the parents, we're going to go ahead and drug the child at birth.
00:44:47.000Bureaucrats in Chicago are currently discussing a proposal that requires a mental health screening of all pregnant women and children up to the age of 18 years.
00:44:54.000The purported mission of the program is to protect the health of the public by diagnosing mental disorders before they become full-blown problems.
00:45:02.000But in reality, as we've seen from similar programs in the past, the real mission is to diagnose people with fictitious brain diseases and behavioral disorders, then dose them with highly toxic prescription drugs that not only generate profits for pharmacological companies, but also for the psychiatrists who prescribe them.
00:45:20.000What's especially frightening about the program is that they may include the dosing of pregnant women with prescription drugs that are known to increase the risk of birth defects.
00:45:27.000We also know the clinical trials of antidepressants and experiments involving mice, that children who grow up on antidepressant drugs have a much higher risk of being depressed as adults whether or not they continue taking those drugs.
00:45:41.000In other words, it's not enough that as a nation we misdiagnose children hyperactivity caused by sugar consumption as being brain chemistry imbalance and those doses of all children on Ritalin.
00:45:54.000It seems that we also want to start diagnosing and dosing pregnant women as well.
00:46:14.000Bizarre mandatory mental health screening program to make Illinois act like Big Brother.
00:46:18.000We're talking about Illinois because the Fed just passed this two weeks ago to the entire country, but Illinois, Texas, Pennsylvania, and seven other states have already begun under other names, but we got the internal documents six months ago.
00:46:39.000We posted them, by the way, on InfoWars.com.
00:46:43.000Openly, this was written by the drug companies, and they said they're going to put half the kids on drugs, up from 15% they brag about the great profits.
00:46:51.000They buy off the government, order them to put you on drugs.
00:46:55.000A series of public forums will be held at five different locations in Illinois on a $10 million plan which will implement the Children's Mental Health Act of 2003.
00:47:03.000The program requires all pregnant women and children through the age of 18 years to be examined for mental health needs.
00:47:10.000Larry Tranner, a parent of four children and a contact for Citizens Commission on Human Rights states that the evaluation of mental conditions is subject and since psychiatric involvement has started, SAT scores have gone down.
00:47:24.000And it says all parents and citizens who are outraged at this new program should attend the forums.
00:47:30.000They passed the law last year, now they're implementing them here in the U.S.
00:47:36.000Ten states already passed these in the last few years.
00:48:04.000Years before it was made law to fund it in Texas.
00:48:10.000You starting to get how serious this is, people?
00:48:14.000You're starting to realize what we're dealing with.
00:48:16.000By the way, if you don't think they want to put all of you on these drugs, when they have control of you, they put over two-thirds on them.
00:50:55.000They just know they lack all the cash.
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00:59:42.000Very interesting about implantable chips under the skin to get into the VIP area with all the lovely ladies and for the women all the handsome bartenders.
00:59:52.000You know, these are kind of those Upscale clubs and then a lot of TV shows like CSI Miami and others.
00:59:58.000Oh, everybody's getting the chip in Miami, you know the at the cool clubs and then Reality imitates art and art imitates reality Now we have a club in Florida that's doing this and we're honored to be joined by Kenneth Percy the owner of Amica loft and It's a pleasure to be on your show.
01:00:20.000Beach, Miami, I believe, and then we have the distributor for it, Mark Barsh, with Metro Risk.
01:00:27.000I'm just incredibly honored to have these gentlemen on.
01:00:31.000I know they're very busy right now, getting a lot of attention.
01:00:33.000Good to have you on, Kenneth and Mark.
01:00:44.000Just first off, we're about to break and then come back after the news.
01:00:47.000We have a lot of stations that join us, but just each of you tell us, first Kenneth and then Mark, tell us in a nutshell who you are and what you're up to.
01:00:55.000My name is Kenneth Percy and I'm one of the owners of the Amica nightclub down in South Beach.
01:01:04.000And we're incredibly excited to have this new technology It's going to make the VIP issues practically go away.
01:01:44.000The Baja Beach, Spain was more of a trial.
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01:01:56.000Another place, Spain being a very hot place for nightclubs, we decided to proceed with Baja Beach.
01:02:02.000Everything went well, so now we hooked up with Well, I want one of these!
01:02:27.000Well, number one, you can either go to Amica Nightclub.
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01:07:36.000Kenneth, why did you decide to be the first club, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, in the U.S. to start the shipping centers for your VIPs?
01:07:46.000Well, it's an incredibly exciting opportunity to be on the cutting edge of technology.
01:07:51.000You have to understand, when a VIP comes to your club, he doesn't want to spend the time that others would spend online, getting out his credit card, proving who he is, giving up the financial information every single time he comes in.
01:08:06.000With this brand new chip, he's in and out a couple of minutes, we have all the information that we need, and he's treated like the VIP that he is.
01:08:41.000I would say post 9-11 agency that specializes in mitigating loss and And all the problems that companies in, say, Latin America may encounter, such as kidnapping of executives, we specialize in the negotiation of the release factor and things of that nature.
01:09:01.000The VeriChip was a natural... Excuse me?
01:09:05.000The VeriChip was a natural... evolved into the product because of what its security ramifications are, due to the fact that it can not only be used for security, but as well as finance and many other applications it just happened to be bigger than what we originally had expected it to be where where we originally got involved in security now we're dealing with a hottest nightclub in Miami amica
01:09:30.000tomorrow we're dealing with government agencies in Latin America to be able to implement today and their security structure Now, let me bring this up here, because during the break I had a chance to talk to both of you gentlemen, and I brought the question or the comment.
01:09:44.000Are you aware that the Attorney General said to some of his employees, you know, you need to take this chip to get into secure areas in Mexico, and you said you were aware of that, Mark.
01:09:53.000That was in the security area, though, and that you were going to be involved in Latin America, others picking up on this.
01:10:01.000Again, the idea that we originally had in Metro Risk is always find little niches to be able to try out the system.
01:10:11.000Much like we did with the Baja Beach nightclub in Spain, our counterparts in Mexico found the Attorney General in Mexico.
01:10:20.000But the main goal is to be able to implement it again for security areas here in the United States.
01:10:26.000And you have the chipmobiles, what areas of the country are the Verichip chipmobiles active and how many clinic chipping centers as you call them, how many chipping centers and how many chipmobiles?
01:10:41.000Well, chipmobiles, keep in mind, the chipmobile right now was an effort from Applied Digital Uh, to be able to have a mobile shipping center.
01:10:50.000As far as my understanding, that is an applied digital asset.
01:10:55.000My understanding, I think they only have one.
01:10:57.000I couldn't say that they have throughout the United States.
01:11:00.000They reported that they had shipping centers already in different areas of the country.
01:11:05.000Yes, we're already negotiating with different hospitals throughout the country.
01:11:08.000We have a business model of, my understanding of donating close to about 200 scanners through emergency rooms throughout the country.
01:11:17.000We've only had FDA approval for medical purposes, I would say, the last 30 days.
01:11:22.000Yeah, the FDA a few months ago approved it.
01:11:24.000So we're moving cautiously, taking one step at a time, building this, because for medical applications it's a lot different than, for example, financial or nightclubs.
01:11:34.000So we're already talking, we're already implementing the technology throughout the country at actually hospital clinics would be our second approach on it.
01:11:42.000Right now, the only way we're proceeding is with hospitals.
01:11:45.000I couldn't give you the exact number, but I can tell you that...
01:11:48.000The fastest moving states would be Florida, New York, and California.
01:11:52.000I have a cousin who's in special forces.
01:11:55.000He's an officer, been in 18 years, now 19 years, and he told me that they were told two years ago that they were all going to be getting chips soon, and then I've also confirmed from sources that in a covert operation, already a lot of the special forces have gotten chips.
01:12:56.000They're actually manufactured in FB approved facilities and I believe there's a manufacturer, I believe it's Ryden, which is in Spain.
01:13:06.000Okay, because in a Apply Digital press release a year ago, and we have this on our website, they said they were building a plant in Beijing.
01:13:46.000Well, actually, we were approached by Mark and he said, listen, he's got an agency and he'd love to put it in our club.
01:13:54.000And after we spoke to him about it, it's a natural fit.
01:13:57.000I mean, it cuts down your transaction time, cuts down on the fraud.
01:14:03.000That's down on the usual rigmarole that's associated with getting into a club that has three to four hundred people waiting to get in on the outside.
01:14:10.000Did you know that with CSI Miami a month or so ago, they even had an episode where in Miami there's a nightclub where you get chips?
01:14:18.000Wow, it's, it's, man, it's like, I don't think I've ever seen this much news coverage on something.
01:14:24.000Maybe on Arnold for President or something we've seen this much promotion, but it's just, it's just all over the place, so... It's a self-promoting product.
01:14:32.000Yeah, when is the chipping going to start?
01:14:36.000I understand we actually have people in line already today to get chipped.
01:14:41.000Oh, the chipping is going on right now?
01:14:44.000Well, it's going to be going on tonight.
01:14:47.000So, if the media came down there to South Beach, there at the Amica Club and Lounge, they could cover the chipping going on?
01:15:01.000Barring any mechanical difficulties with the chipmobile, as happened last week?
01:16:21.000You don't even have to carry your wallet anymore.
01:16:23.000If you have this technology in your arm, if you have this chip in your arm, breeze right in, never worry about losing your credit cards, your wallet, having anything stolen.
01:16:32.000What about people who say that, you know, this is Big Brother, or people who say this is the mark of the beast?
01:16:38.000Don't forget, the information contained, or associated with the Verichip, is only that that you provide.
01:16:45.000But then that number, when the government uses it, is connected to the database.
01:16:51.000Well, I mean, any number, a driver's license number, a social security number, a chip number, can be then connected to any level of database.
01:16:57.000It's no different than what exists now.
01:16:59.000It's just a new form of the technology and associated information.
01:17:05.000Well, that's... people are pretty excited about it.
01:17:10.000Now, going back to Mark... Mark, the head of Metro Risk, What type of industry growth are you guys looking at here with this?
01:17:36.000Did you see the Reuters article a couple years ago when they were going to do a contract with the Bureau of Presence in California for parolees, but for some reason that fell through.
01:18:18.000It's not meant to be forced upon anybody.
01:18:20.000But the uses of the device go, for example, you're walking down the street, you have your credit card, you can leave your house with just your, a female can just leave her house with her lipstick just to look beautiful.
01:18:30.000She doesn't have to worry about a credit card.
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01:22:53.000All right, my friends, we're talking to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of the Amica Loft and, I guess, Clubhouse Lounge, one of the biggest and most popular party spots there in South Beach, Miami.
01:23:08.000And of course, Mark Barsch, he is the president of Metro Risk.
01:23:14.000And gentlemen, there's just too much to talk about here.
01:23:16.000If I can keep you about another 15 minutes, that would just be fabulous.
01:23:40.000then what about for metro risk met for it to be at w_w_w_ dot metro risk and the american area to the george dot com okay gentlemen i've got a lady coming on right now and with our phone problems that we'll see how this works She's Catherine Albrecht, she's with Caspian, expert there at Harvard right now, on the cards, on the chips, on the RFID, and she's got a couple questions for you on this subject.
01:24:08.000Catherine Albrecht, you're on the air, of course, from nocards.org with our two guests who've been kind enough to come on with us.
01:24:17.000You've got questions for them, they've got answers.
01:24:19.000Go ahead. - Hey Alex, hi Kenneth, hi Mark.
01:24:22.000Quick question actually for both of you.
01:24:25.000I'm wondering what sort of waiver forms you've been given by the folks that apply digital solutions that have to be signed by people who are about to be chipped, I guess this evening. - I haven't given any forms. - Is that Kenneth answering there?
01:24:40.000Okay, so now do they come out and do the chipping themselves or you're just providing the facilities and then the Applied Digital folks do the chipping?
01:24:47.000Actually, I'm basically providing an outlet for people to know about it and to use it in a real setting.
01:24:55.000And are they actually sending out a clinician or someone in a white lab coat to do the chipping right there in front of your crowd tonight?
01:25:03.000I don't think it would be in front of the crowd.
01:25:05.000If anything, it would have to be in the chipmobile.
01:25:08.000Okay, because I know in some of the photographs that I've seen from the Baja Beach Clubs, both in Spain and of course in the Netherlands, it looks like it's kind of a sort of a big ringside show there with everybody getting chipped in front of the crowd.
01:25:20.000So, yeah, and then the question, let me direct that to you, Mark, are you familiar with any kind of waiver or form that has to be signed before people take the chip?
01:26:06.000And then the other piece was just in terms of some of the medical risks associated with taking this device, which according to the FDA, when they approved this device on October 12th, those risks included, for example, an incompatibility with an MRI or a Magnetic Resonance Imaging Machine.
01:26:23.000At the time, we're considering a non... How about it?
01:26:28.000It's not meant to be used for somebody who at the moment is going to be getting an MRI.
01:26:35.000Okay, so I guess these folks who are getting these implants may actually have to wear medical alert bracelets of some sort.
01:26:42.000Tell me what the FDA says happens when you have one of these in you and you go under a magnetic resonance machine.
01:26:48.000Well, we actually found a letter from the FDA to the folks at Applied Digital and Digital Angel about this device and essentially they had a whole host of health problems.
01:26:57.000One of them, people don't realize an MRI machine is a very powerful magnet.
01:27:02.000And it also creates a very powerful radio frequency field.
01:27:05.000So for both of those reasons, this is incompatible because the VeriChip has a ferrous or an iron-based core.
01:27:12.000And if you go inside of an MRI machine, there's some speculation that the MRI may actually suck the device right out of the patient, or out of, I guess it would be a patient inside of an MRI machine.
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01:31:49.000I remember eight years ago, getting army documents with a plan to chip the entire population.
01:32:07.000And then back in 2000, even having it on their main website, linking to army.mil, and people still couldn't believe it.
01:32:13.000Then my cousin two years ago told me they'd all been told that within the next few years, and now we've reached that point, they'd be getting chips.
01:32:20.000And after 9-11, the wall-to-wall promotion, the family in Florida getting the chips, and Now in Mexico, and we're just talking to Mark Barsh with Metro Risk, just one of the companies globally out distributing.
01:32:34.000He's talking to all these Latin American countries about going with this.
01:32:38.000They've had Brazilian politicians take the chip, even before Mexican ones did it.
01:32:43.000There's talk in Italy about this happening.
01:32:46.000Meanwhile, we have Arnold Schwarzenegger and all these other governors promoting satellite trackers or transponders in the cars to track us everywhere we go.
01:32:54.000There's a proliferation of this, and we talked to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of Amica Club there in Miami, and he said, yeah, I see a time when you'll need this to get into the club, period.
01:33:07.000That's what the other club manager said from Spain.
01:33:12.000And so we see where all of this is trending and going.
01:33:15.000I mean, if somebody wants to go stick one of these in themselves, biometric face scanner thumbprint does the same thing that's their business and I see those is just as dangerous uh...
01:33:27.000just this pell-mell push by the media all positive about it but in major polls ninety plus percent of people are firmly against it uh...
01:33:35.000gentlemen you have any comments what i just said it's an individual thing somebody wants it it's just purely for convenience as far as the nightlife industry concerned as far as Yeah, but if you want to be in the military, you'll have to have it.
01:33:48.000Or if you want to work at the Mexican Consulate, or if you want to work in the CIA, you'll have to have it.
01:33:54.000I mean, we already see the government saying, yeah, you don't have to have a job.
01:33:58.000You don't have to have a license, but we need a license for you to have a job.
01:35:25.000But I can pull up 100 stories that said 300 and even higher.
01:35:29.000Yeah, in fact, USA Today, The Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, all of the major media got it wrong.
01:35:37.000Including myself, but we issued a press release a few months back and just parroted the number we've been given, which was 160.
01:35:43.000And the AP and others said they got that from Apply Digital.
01:35:46.000Apply Digital also, a couple years ago, I had their CEO on, I had their Chief Scientist on four years ago.
01:35:52.000They said that they had all these hospitals taking it, but where are the hospitals with the readers?
01:35:58.000They called the hospitals One of the Miami Papers, didn't they say, we don't have those readers?
01:36:04.000They got sued in a class action suit by their investors for that, by the way, Alex, and in fact they had to settle to the tune of millions of dollars because they were accused of fraudulently misrepresenting their marketing efforts.
01:36:15.000Now I know we've got a distributor and a club owner doing this, I wouldn't even connect them to that, but you guys are just distributors, or one of you is a consumer, one of you is a distributor, were you aware of all that?
01:36:40.000I'm just saying, we all saw the news, 150, 300, 1000 got the chip, and this information, you know, is coming from quarters that, again, said all these hospitals had it.
01:36:52.000Well, if you ask me, you have to take into consideration several factors.
01:36:57.000For example, let's take the comments from the Attorney General in Mexico.
01:37:00.000At one point in time, I was only impressed that it was 160 also.
01:37:03.000Yeah, there were quotes by him, so why is he doing that?
01:37:07.000My understanding is that it was a project meant to chip 160.
01:37:10.000Again, this is what my understanding goes.
01:37:13.000The amount of people at the time right now is only 18, and she's absolutely correct.
01:37:18.000But they were on the news going, you don't get in the building in the secure area unless you have this.
01:37:23.000With people going, well, I guess I'll do it then.
01:37:28.000That wasn't the only exaggeration at the point.
01:37:30.000At the point, as a matter of fact, you guys are even forgetting that the gentleman not only said that you need the chip to get into the place, but you could also track them through GPS, which is absolutely not true.
01:37:40.000Well, they could with a high-powered reader boosting the satellite at ground-based level.
01:38:06.000It's not that they're just coming out with something that's been out, but if you ask me, in reference to the exaggerations out there with numbers, let it be how many hospitals at the time.
01:38:18.000I can only tell you the numbers in which Metro Risk has been involved.
01:38:21.000I can only tell you the different projects... Okay, how many people has Metro Risk chipped?
01:38:28.000Right now, as a matter of fact, in the United States, we haven't shipped anybody.
01:38:48.000Well, I've been at this for about a year and a half.
01:38:50.000And the only thing is that in the United States, because of its society and because of the all-potential lawsuits, we have to proceed with certain caution.
01:39:01.000Amica Dean, D-Top, Nightclub, we have to proceed with certain caution.
01:39:05.000For example, we're not going to get anybody chipped in the back or in such a circus way like they did in Baja Beach in Spain, even though it was a project that we undertook.
01:39:15.000We have the control of what was happening at the hospital.
01:39:18.000The reason why we had to take it with amicus is because it could be done much better and in the proper way.
01:39:22.000Okay, Mark, any comments from Kenneth?
01:39:25.000Do you want to say anything here, or Catherine?
01:39:27.000I mean, this is still a quasi-medical procedure, and it's still voluntary, and it's done from the nightlife point of view, purely as an added value to make your experience easier.
01:40:24.000And actually, Kenneth, this is information that these folks may not have shared with you before you agreed to allow your students to be tested.
01:40:30.000You just made my point, though, Catherine.
01:40:32.000Go ahead and make your point, Catherine.
01:40:34.000This is from the FDA letter that was issued on October 12th, the same day that they gave the approval of this device for medical purposes.
01:40:41.000It says, the potential risk And the groups know where these chips are going, the two implant areas.
01:40:45.000What's to stop a kidnapper from grabbing it out and using it?
01:40:48.000compromised information security, failure of implanted transponder, failure of inserter, failure of electronic scanner, electromagnetic interference, electrical hazards, MRI incompatibility, and needle stick.
01:41:01.000Yeah, and the groups know where these chips are going, the two implant areas.
01:41:04.000What's to stop a kidnapper from grabbing it out and using it?
01:41:19.000Yeah, but that has nothing to do with going to a nightclub in Miami Beach.
01:41:23.000Yeah, but as this proliferates... I mean, Mark, you were saying for kidnappings and security issues in Latin America, where it's obviously a real threat... That's the problem with... Let me stop you.
01:41:34.000That's the problem with the thumb scanner.
01:41:36.000They just cut somebody's thumb off, they got it.
01:41:39.000We've had security experts look at all this biometrics and stuff.
01:41:54.000The code just doesn't do anything unless you have access to the database.
01:41:59.000Catherine, do you have any comments to this?
01:42:01.000You were telling me during our break that Applied Digital, I haven't seen this but I'm sure you have if you're saying it, that Applied Digital is claiming that you can't extract this and use it.
01:42:12.000I've done several radio interviews with Applied Digital and television interviews as well.
01:42:17.000One of the things that they've said is that, oh well don't worry if it's removed from the person's body it will no longer function.
01:42:22.000Mark, do you have any comments to that?
01:42:25.000The chip is, of course, it's obvious it's going to function, because I mean, by removing it from the body, it doesn't necessarily mean that the device is disabled.
01:42:59.000Say you get it removed without applied digital knowing, then we've got to grant the possibility of something happening for the simple fact that... Well, the kidnappers aren't going to call up and go, hey, I took the chip out of her arm!
01:43:12.000Well, the other thing that's interesting, I got an email from a gentleman in Scandinavia.
01:43:19.000Who is an engineer who works for one of their big telephone companies up there, an electrical engineer, and he said, you know, these folks at Applied Digital are really snowing you.
01:43:29.000He said, I could take a handheld reader device, capture the number off of any VeriChip implant, and within a period of a day, I could have an army of that identical number available to chip and implant into other people.
01:44:10.000And a group of... It's part of a security system, per se.
01:44:14.000For example, the chip inside a person just merely identifies that person with a number, but it doesn't have any medical or any credit card information on the chip.
01:44:22.000But that's what the company's saying they want to develop it into!
01:44:28.000The chip, again, is for identification.
01:44:30.000If I want to go into Kenneth's nightclub and charge up a bunch of liquor, all I would have to do would be scan one of his chipped patrons, duplicate one of their chips, put it in my own arm, and then I could go in and run up that person's bar tab.
01:44:43.000Yeah, you'd still have to find, with all due respect, you'd still have to find a tab and a bill.
01:44:54.000Why can't I just swipe my debit card, bang my pin in there, it's got my picture on it.
01:44:59.000You see, all this chipping makes all the other Big Brother stuff look okay.
01:45:03.000Face scanning, thumb scanning, ID cards.
01:45:06.000Catherine, isn't that what this is really all about?
01:45:07.000Why the media and the government keeps pushing it?
01:45:10.000I will say that there's a lot of people with a lot of interest in being able to track people all the time and this would certainly be one way to do it.
01:45:16.000We can track you already as it is right now.
01:45:18.000Yeah, but just because we can track, that's what I'm saying.
01:45:37.000We're big brother land and it's getting worse.
01:45:40.000The main thing I want to get to the bottom of here, since we've got Kenneth on the phone and he's been kind enough to talk to us about this, is really are you concerned that one of your patrons might wind up down the road needing an MRI and being unable to get one because they have this device in their flesh?
01:45:56.000It'd be no different than somebody having an artificial hip or an artificial knee.
01:46:04.000What if they're in a big car wreck and then they go in and they're doing an MRI and they don't know that that chip's in there?
01:46:11.000With all due respect... Well, if it isn't a problem, Kenneth, why'd the FDA say it was a problem?
01:46:16.000I can't comment on whether the FDA would say anything.
01:46:17.000No, but the FDA... It'd be no different than having any other kind of medical device implanted in you.
01:46:22.000But you're not implanting this in people as a medical device, you're implanting it in them as a way to pay for their drinks.
01:46:28.000Actually, without implanting anything, what we are doing is giving people the avenue of using that chip in a different kind of way.
01:46:35.000But an artificial hip I might need in order to walk, a chip, I could just as easily scan my credit card.
01:46:41.000I guess the real question is are people aware of the risk that they're running and are people at 21 or 22 really thinking long term about their need for future medical care and are they really thinking long term about whether this is going to be incompatible with an MRI and then how are they going to get the darn thing out again when they need that MRI down the road?
01:48:14.000The only thing I've been able to find about having a chip removed, and I'd love to find information about that if that's been published in any journals or anywhere that regular folks can find out about how difficult it is to remove it, but I do have a document here about chipping racehorses.
01:48:29.000And of course we all know that the Verichip is essentially an animal chip that's being used for human purposes.
01:48:33.000It's the same one they put in pets and dogs and racehorses.
01:48:36.000And while they were able to inject it into the horses in the field, just standing out there, to remove it actually required a team of veterinary surgeons and a full veterinary theater.
01:48:45.000And they put the horse under full anesthesia and even then had difficulty locating the chest.
01:48:50.000Yeah, I worked for a large animal vet.
01:48:55.000You need a large scheme when you can just simply locate it with the reader, reduce it to a small amount, and just simply make an incision.
01:49:02.000Come on, how many doctors do you think you need to do that?
01:49:04.000Well, this thing had actually migrated, so in that case they had a tough time.
01:49:08.000I worked for a high-level vet who did artificial insemination, embryo flushes, implantation, I mean in a laboratory when I was a teenager.
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01:53:07.000They're just going to talk about tips and how great they are and push them in sitcoms and dramas and the news and at nightclubs until you just get sick of hearing about it and accept it.
01:53:39.00090-plus percent of people are against it, but they don't care, they're going to keep pushing it, just like Arnold for president.
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01:55:33.000Tell us what you thought of that insane interview.
01:55:37.000I'd be happy to stay on with you and your listeners, Alex.
01:55:40.000Our website, spychips.com, S-P-Y-C-H-I-P-S.com, you'll see the latest bear chip information, including our world-exclusive breaking story on the fact that only 18 people in Mexico were chipped instead of the 160 widely reported... I saw articles that said 1,100!
01:55:58.000Well, you know, I've been seeing 1,100 around the world.
01:56:03.000You know, the real bottom line here is that these companies have a long history of lying to the public, lying to their investors.
01:56:09.000If they got sued and lost over lying about the hospitals, why are they doing it again?
01:56:14.000Well, and they're blaming their Mexican affiliate, their Mexican distributor.
01:56:18.000They're saying they had nothing to do with it.
01:56:19.000What I think is interesting, though, is you can go on our website at spychips.com.
01:56:22.000You can click up this article, which is featured right on the very front page there.
01:56:26.000And if you scroll down to the bottom, you can actually see a link to their website where they continue to carry articles from Business Week and other publications boasting about the $160.
01:56:37.000Of course, that information is there to impress investors so that they can get even more money flowing into their coffers.
01:56:43.000Last time I checked, though, their stock wasn't doing too well.
01:56:46.000Their stock actually took a huge bounce.
01:56:48.000It went way up after the FDA announcement and of course after they were featured on a number of nationwide television programs.
01:56:55.000I remember the last time a few years ago, though, when they did the public chipping of that family at Plunge, but I guess now it's going back up.
01:57:01.000Yeah, I believe it went up 60% after the FDA approval.
01:57:08.000You know, I haven't been tracking it that closely, but yeah, it's somewhere in that range.
01:57:11.000A few years ago, it was like $0.80 or something.
01:57:13.000Well, they did what's called a reverse stock split, where 10 shares of stock turned into a single share of stock in order to keep it from being sort of the pathetic $0.35.
01:59:43.000And, in fact, that's the other risk in the MRI machine is, first, that the magnet would suck the device out of your body, kind of like a reverse bullet, leaving a big, gaping wound in you.
01:59:53.000The other risk is that it would heat up due to the electromagnetic radiation inside the MRI machine and essentially burn you from the inside out.
02:00:01.000It would burn and then it would be contained.
02:00:03.000The gases would expand and have a mini explosion.
02:00:06.000And in fact, not just that, Alex, but our concern is that really anybody who regularly works around electromagnetic fields... And that's not just you!
02:00:23.000So it's probably even worse than what they're saying.
02:00:25.000Well, and we've actually filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain all of the testing and documentation from the FDA as to what they know about the Verichip.
02:00:33.000And by the way, if your listeners would like to get on our newsletter, we'll be posting that information when we get it.
02:00:53.000Days after you brought this out, that it wasn't thousands or 300 or 168, they're still reporting all these different numbers.
02:01:01.000And as you said, Verichip still promotes this on their website, despite the fact you, how did you confirm it was only 18 of the Attorney General's office in Mexico that did this?
02:01:12.000Well Alex, in order to understand that, I come at this research working on a doctorate at Harvard University.
02:01:18.000So I'm a researcher and I've been trained to always follow up the facts.
02:01:22.000I'm fluent in Spanish and I spoke directly to the Attorney General's office there.
02:01:26.000And they sent me a transcript of an interview that one of their executives had done in which he states on three different occasions that it was just 18 people.
02:01:33.000So I called back and I said, this doesn't sound like what I'm hearing.
02:01:36.000And they confirmed that absolutely it was only 18 people in that office.
02:01:39.000Now what I suspect may have happened Is that it was originally 160 people who were slated to get the chip and my guess is that they had a minor, you know, mutiny there.
02:01:50.000Or that some people simply said, you know, I'm really not interested in getting a chip in my flesh.
02:01:55.000I have no reason to think that other than I know if my boss came to me and said, take a chip, I'd probably say, no, I think I'd rather pass on that.
02:02:17.000Yeah, they've been involved in numerous scandalous legal entanglements over the years with Applied Digital Company, and they've really had problems.
02:02:25.000And in fact, the day after the announcement was made, the FDA announcement, or within a day or so of that announcement of the approval, some of the principals in Applied Digital Angel actually sold their stock in the company.
02:02:38.000Alright, Katherine Albert, SpyChips.com, thanks for joining us.
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02:06:42.000Our phone system's down today, so we can't take calls, so we'll be able to just have him, and we could have him on for three hours easily, but I just want to go over quickly the debunkers on the Kennedy assassination.
02:06:54.000And then go over some of his 9-11 information that meshes with mine, and of course the murder of Senator Paul Wellstone that the doctor has covered extensively.
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02:07:23.000A caller called yesterday, I've confirmed with NBC and with others that saw it, this is indeed Tom Brokaw, when he signed off two nights ago, interviewing minutes before he signed off for his last night anchoring the NBC Nightly News, that anybody who breaks any rules, who leaves the area around their house, and who doesn't take an ID card with a retina scan or a thumb scan will be killed.
02:09:21.000So far, the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages.
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02:10:59.000They've got a special Congress, special session coming up.
02:11:02.000Dr. Spetzer, again, you're an expert on all of this from your writings and research and from your website where you teach up there at the University of Minnesota.
02:11:11.000What you just heard, give us your take on that.
02:11:16.000It's absolutely... I mean, it's outdoing the Nazis.
02:11:19.000I mean, this is far beyond even what the Nazis practiced until you start loading them into cattle cars and shipping them off to crematoria.
02:11:43.000The idea that we're going to win the hearts and minds of the people by destroying their mosques and their holy sites is so incredibly short-sighted.
02:11:53.000Not to say stupid and crass and corrupt and illegal and immoral.
02:11:59.000There are about one and a half billion Muslims who are going to take offense at everything we're doing here.
02:12:04.000We are creating 100 Osamas for everyone we might kill.
02:12:08.000But that's the P2OG Pentagon plan, is to enrage them.
02:12:15.000It's like these are, you know, second comers who believe that there's going to be a great war between the religions and then Christ is going to return and consign everyone to hell who doesn't, isn't a born-again Christian.
02:12:25.000For which there's some reason to believe George Bush actually believes this.
02:12:32.000And I know that the neocons, who aren't Christians, who are skull and boners, are manipulating good Christians out there and trying to make this some type of messianic fight.
02:12:43.000I've heard them say every day that Bush is like a prophet, a divine leader.
02:12:47.000And the guy, when he's not praying in a mosque, he's at a Shinto shrine.
02:12:56.000I mean, you look at the Old Testament.
02:12:58.000I mean, this was a doctrine of love and acceptance and compassion.
02:13:02.000I mean, you look at what Christ preached about, for example, giving all your money to the poor, that it's harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.
02:13:12.000None of this is exemplified by this administration.
02:13:15.000Well, I mean, it's kind of theater to con people, but just focusing in on this specifically, I mean, that is total war I mean, people say level it, kill them all, kill them all.
02:13:26.000Even alternative press admits it's about 10,000 fighters that were in the city out of 250,000.
02:13:30.000Yeah, the very use of the term insurgent, rebel and all that is a bit of a crock concern.
02:13:37.000We've invaded this country's... Yeah, but think about this, though.
02:14:16.000It's the same exact script they used two years ago!
02:14:20.000Well, we're in the grip of a fascist regime, Alex, and the sooner the American people will wake into it, the better.
02:14:25.000I mean, traditional Republicans have stood for balanced budgets, constitutional government, non-interventionist foreign policy, keeping the government out of our personal lives.
02:14:33.000This administration is violating every one of those.
02:14:36.000Doctrines which have defined Republicanism.
02:14:38.000I say, where are the traditional Republicans?
02:14:40.000They seem to be absolutely silent, Alec.
02:14:42.000They don't even speak up about the massive deficits, not to mention invading other countries which have never attacked us in violation of international law on the U.N.
02:15:37.000Well, it's all based on the false assumptions that were the premises of the Warren Report and the House Select Committee reinvestigation in Gerald Posner's case.
02:15:44.000Quote, namely, the magic bullet theory that a single bullet entered the base of the back of Jack's neck, transited his neck without hitting any bony structures, exited his throat, and went into the back of John Connolly doing all this damage.
02:15:56.000It's easy to prove, Alex, that this claim, which is the fulcrum of all of these government defenses, is not only false, it's provably false, and in fact it's not even anatomically possible because cervical vertebrae intervene.
02:16:10.000We have the man's shirt and the jacket, the penetration was five and a half inches down below the collar, it was a shallow shot, only went in about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.
02:16:18.000We have the autopsy drawing, we have autopsy reports, we have sketches that come from the FBI.
02:16:24.000That car, that car admittedly was like Swiss cheese with bullet holes in it and then they...
02:16:31.000What'd they do with that car after nobody was allowed to see that car?
02:16:36.00025th of November, the day of the formal state funeral, the car was ripped down to bare metal and completely rebuilt, including removing and replacing the windshield, which had a through-and-through bullet hole in it.
02:16:45.000This was the shot that hit Jack in the throat.
02:16:46.000We have established Jack was hit four different times in the throat from in front.
02:16:50.000In the back, that five and a half inches down from behind.
02:16:52.000And then, Alex, after the driver, brought the limousine to a halt.
02:16:55.000The man was hit twice in the head, once from behind.
02:16:58.000He fell forward, Jackie eased him back up, and she was looking right in the face when he was hit in the right temple.
02:17:02.000Well, even on the edited Sabrina film, you know, you see him lunge forward, grab his neck, and then the big shot hits him in the front, and the back of the head opens up like a mushroom.
02:17:10.000Well, that mushroom actually is intended to be to the right front to give the impression of an effect of a shot from behind.
02:17:17.000But a special effects expert from Hollywood told Noel Twyman, the author of Bloody Treason, that it appeared to have been painted in.
02:17:23.000There are complimentary x-rays that show all the bone and muscle skull missing from that part, the right front of the head.
02:17:29.000But the autopsy photographs don't show it.
02:17:31.000Jackie said he looked from in front, he looked perfectly fine.
02:17:34.000That when she was helping him to park, he looked fine from the front, but she couldn't keep his skull together in the back.
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02:22:16.000We've gone back and reconstructed and found the government has altered all the most basic evidence in this case, including the autopsy x-rays.
02:22:22.000They patched it and you can see a massive blowout to the back of the head.
02:22:25.000Added a 6.5 millimeter metallic slice to implicate this obscure World War II weapon, which couldn't even have inflicted the damage that took out his brain.
02:22:38.000I do think such a weapon was one of those used.
02:22:41.000We have six shooters, eight, nine, or ten shots fired all together.
02:22:45.000The shot that hit him in the back of the head, a shot that missed and hit the chrome strip, and a shot that missed and injured a distant bystander may have been fired using a Mannlicher Carcano from the second floor of the Dow Tax Building.
02:22:55.000Yeah, we got bystanders getting hit, and magically three bullets for doing all this.
02:23:02.000Yeah, in fact, actually it's interesting that at the crime scene they only found two spent shell casings and then one unspent.
02:23:07.000So you have these evidence photographs that show only two.
02:23:10.000So they didn't have enough rounds from there.
02:23:14.000This whole thing was done kind of scissors and paces.
02:23:16.000They went along changing the evidence and altering it.
02:23:18.000They substituted another brain during the second supplemental brain examination because when they patched up that hole in the back of the head there was nowhere for all that brains to go.
02:23:26.000And of course, altering the film was a centerpiece in order to take out For example, the driver bringing the limousine to a halt.
02:23:32.000A fellow named Homer McMahon from the National Photographic Interpretation Center, which processes satellite images in Washington, D.C., was brought a copy of a film that night and told to study it and prepare a briefing board for an unnamed government official to show how many impacts there were on occupants of the limo.
02:23:47.000And he discovered that there were six to eight impacts from at least three different directions.
02:23:52.000That's consistent with our findings, Alex, because we have four in Jack and as many as three in Big John Connolly, which is seven in between six and eight.
02:23:59.000But that was so stunningly different than what we see today in the extant film, that it indicates how far they went from the original.
02:24:05.000Well, bottom line, a lot of Americans out there know it's a fraud, because half of Americans are proficient with firearms on average, and everybody's shot a deer, or a lot of people have, or people shot into a sand bank.
02:24:18.000You can shoot a bullet into water, And it gets more... I mean, I've done this into a deep 20-foot pool.
02:24:23.000I've sat there and shot rifles into it and swam down and picked them up, you know, when I was a kid just for fun.
02:24:28.000You shoot a .30-06 or similar around even high-velocity into there.
02:24:33.000Low-velocity doesn't even... I mean, still deforms.
02:24:35.000He goes into there and there's massive deformity.
02:24:38.000Only cotton wad, and that'll still give you some.
02:24:41.000There was almost no deformity on that bullet that magically fell out on the stretcher.
02:24:45.000Especially coming of a bullet He had two people, went through seats, bounced around, multiple bones.
02:24:51.000I mean, if a bullet hits one bone, folks, it goes into pieces.
02:24:57.000I published a photograph of the magic bullet alongside a test bullet fired into wads of cotton by the House Select Committee and the Warren Commission.
02:25:19.000But you shoot like an elk or something, when you're gutting that, man, you go to find the bullet, it'll be in five pieces.
02:25:25.000There's a massive disinformation campaign trying to move our understanding of the case way back to before we made all these discoveries which started already in 1993.
02:25:35.000Which includes that Gerald Ford, who was of course a member of the commission, had that description of the wound changed, Alex.
02:25:43.000In the report, the semi-final version of the report, it described that wound in the back as the uppermost back, which as you can see is already an exaggeration.
02:25:50.000He had it re-described to the base of the back of the neck to accommodate Arlen Spector's fantasy of a single bullet going through the neck and doing all this damage.
02:25:58.000So Gerald Ford was complicit in this thing right from scratch.
02:26:01.000He was known as Jay Edgar's boy on the commission because he was keeping Hoover, the director of the FBI, appraised of exactly where the commission was going in its inquiries.
02:26:11.000Plus, we had confirmation of two different brain examinations that came out of depositions that were taken by the Assassination Records Review Board, this five-member civilian board created by an act of Congress after the release of Oliver Stone's film JFK.
02:26:24.000It was opposed by George Bush, then president, the former director of the CIA, Who refused to appoint the members after it passed against his adamant opposition.
02:26:32.000And when, after Bill Clinton finally did appoint the members, they started releasing what would turn out to be 60,000 documents and records from the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, and all that.
02:26:43.000When the Secret Service was telegraphed that they wanted presidential protection records because the motorcade had been so strange, and we have more than 15 indications of Secret Service complicity in setting the man up, they destroyed their records.
02:26:58.000I mean, that's a whole other area of evidence.
02:27:00.000They never did this at any other event in history, just one of these things, but over and over again on that day.
02:27:06.000These computerized reconstructions, there was one last year on ABC that was recycled this year on the History Channel, they exemplify the fundamental principle in computer science, G-I-G-O, garbage in, garbage out.
02:27:18.000They're based on faulty assumptions and non-existent data.
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02:31:30.000There was a big argument between JFK and LBJ that morning because Lyndon wanted to put Connolly right with him and Ralph Yarbrough as political enemy right with Jack.
02:31:40.000Jack overruled him on the grounds that the president, uh, that the chief executive of the state should ride with the chief executive of the United States.
02:31:46.000But I don't think there was time to let the assassins know that the, uh, the person in the seat in front of Jack was not going to be Ralph.
02:31:52.000Yeah, I mean, I've got the stills, I've got the photographs, the video of the film.
02:31:58.000But the things they didn't do include, they didn't weld down the manhole covers, they didn't cover the open windows, they let the crowd spill out eight or ten deep into the They told the 112th Military Intelligence Unit to stand down against the adamant opposition of its commanding officer.
02:32:12.000They had the motorcycle patrol beside the limousine not only reduced in number, but not allowed to ride ahead of the rear wheels.
02:32:19.000They had an improper motorcade route, including that 110 degree turn off of Houston onto Elm.
02:32:24.000The driver slowed the limousine nearly to a halt.
02:32:27.000The limousines were all in the wrong order.
02:32:29.000This is one of the most telling, Alex.
02:32:30.000The presidential limousine should have been in the middle.
02:32:32.000It should have been surrounded with a flatbed truck ahead of it for the cameraman to be covering this political event.
02:32:39.000And they put the mayor and the vice president behind it.
02:32:41.000Guess where they put the president's position?
02:32:43.000In the very last vehicle, along with most of the press, so they couldn't cover what actually happened when the shooting began to take place.
02:32:49.000They moved the military aid that normally would be sitting in between the driver and the Secret Service agent in charge.
02:32:54.000From his seat there, in the front, to the very last limousine, too.
02:32:58.000And that bullet that went through the windshield hit Jack in the throat, would have hit his military aide if he hadn't been moved.
02:33:02.000When they got to Parkland Hospital, they got a bucket and sponge and started washing blood and brains out of the limousine.
02:33:07.000Secret Service agent in charge picked up the x-rays, exposed and developed, and the autopsy photographs exposed but undeveloped.
02:33:14.000And the next time we see them, they've been altered, re-shot, re-changed.
02:33:17.000And of course, as I already mentioned, they took the limousine back to Ford Motor Company, had it completely rebuilt.
02:33:22.000That was a crime scene on wheels, Alex.
02:35:05.000I mean, for example, at a rendezvous six weeks after the assassination, Madeline confronted Lyndon at the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas on New Year's Eve.
02:35:13.000With rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally, he got angry with her and told her the CIA and the oil boys had decided that Jack had to be taken out.
02:35:22.000Billy Saul Estes has said how Jack was in deep trouble.
02:35:25.000He gave an interview to a French investigative reporter named William Raymond, who published it in a French magazine whose title translates to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that Lyndon was in such deep trouble there was going to be a vote that afternoon, Friday afternoon, the 22nd of November.
02:35:38.000on the Bobby Baker scandal was going to tarnish him so badly almost certainly Jack wouldn't be able to run with him again.
02:35:43.000Richard Nixon who was in town and was at this meeting the night before at the home of Clint Murkison that appears to be a ratification meeting where Madeleine was present I mean, here's the deal.
02:35:54.000I'm interviewing his admitted mistress who had his own natural-born son.
02:35:56.000I'm interviewing his admitted lawyer for a decade.
02:35:57.000but i mean here's the deal i'm interviewing his admitted mistress who had his own natural born son i'm interviewing his admitted lawyer for a decade you know i mean i mean it's not what i think again folks you can't beat these sources i think they were using this uh...
02:36:13.000you know you have jerald ford and jack valenti and ladybird you know making a big to do about the the third of the three new episodes in nigel turner's famous series the men who killed kennedy And they made such a big, big to-do about it, such a great racket, that the History Channel not only pulled off that, but I think the whole new three segments.
02:36:30.000And then put on three historians, none of whom were qualified to discuss the assassination.
02:36:46.000One was a guy named Stanley Cutler, who's a constitutional historian.
02:36:49.000He knows nothing at all about the assassination.
02:36:51.000The other guy was named Thomas Sugru, from the University of Pennsylvania, deals with affirmative action and social issues.
02:36:57.000I sent these last two guys 20 questions to discern their expertise for doing this, to which they did not respond, Alex.
02:37:04.000I asked them if they'd read the book, I asked them if they'd watched the series, I even asked them if they'd watched the very segment they were critiquing, and I gave them a half a dozen books, and whether they knew about Madeline, whether they were qualified to review an article in this area, much less a book.
02:37:38.000Alex, I think this was the beginning of creating an alternative reality.
02:37:41.000It's the big lie that's been going on and on.
02:37:43.000The Gulf of Tonkin was a minor incident compared to what's going on now in relation to Iraq.
02:37:47.000I mean, naval officers said our ship wasn't attacked, and then last year the Presidential Library, again here in Austin, releases the tape with them saying it never happened.
02:38:00.000And, you know, I think that this, getting away with assassinating the President of the United States in broad daylight, And then faking all the evidence to mislead the American people has emboldened the military-industrial complex and its representatives right up to today where they're pulling all kinds of stunts to mislead and deceive the American people.
02:38:16.000I mean, think about, Alex, the claim they have that we had an election in Afghanistan to prop up this guy Karzai.
02:38:22.000They claim they had 10 million registered voters.
02:38:25.000That's more than there were people who could vote in Afghanistan.
02:38:29.000To get all those people registered would have been a huge process.
02:38:49.000And about a third of those are young women.
02:38:50.000Another third of the men that are the, you know, twelve, fourteen million and the other half are young or old or were in mountain areas who can't even get into town to vote.
02:39:01.000So you're talking maybe about five million voters.
02:39:03.000And then the foreign press admitted that people were told in releases, he will be killed if you vote for anybody else.
02:39:38.000But I mean, do I have to explain to people?
02:39:40.000I know our listeners know all this, but the general public, well, we brought them freedom.
02:39:44.000Well, mostly Iraqi parties agree that you can't have the election now because there's no stability.
02:39:48.000I mean, you know, the violence, the level of violence is increasing.
02:39:50.000That's, I've interviewed and heard reporters interviewed who are there right now, and they say that no one is running because everybody knows it's a fraud and they'll be killed.
02:40:00.000I mean, the minute you run against Alawi, you're dead.
02:40:04.000This is Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld running the world, you know, according to their own agenda, regardless of what's in the interest of the Iraqi people.
02:41:01.000But, I mean, it's very, very frustrating.
02:41:07.000They killed your president in plain view.
02:41:10.000And, you know, one of my friends made the point that the Kennedy family, the globalists killed the Kennedy males and then took their women.
02:41:21.000You've got down this Republican puppet.
02:41:38.000We've been having one of these blue moon problems.
02:41:40.000You know, Alex, you're so right about proof.
02:41:42.000I mean, if people want proof, for example, that all these government reports about JFK are just based upon nonsense, fabrication, falsehood, They can go to my website, fascinationscience.com, where I have a JFK introductory seminar that lays out all the evidence that shows that the magic bullet theory is indefensible, that explains how all the autopsy materials have been faked and changed and altered, and shows how the Zapruder film has been manufactured.
02:42:07.000I want to spend some time on 9-11 and some time on Wellstone that you also cover.
02:42:30.000The third, The Great Zapruder Film Hoax.
02:42:31.000Now, they can find introductions and descriptions of all three of those books on AssassinationScience.com.
02:42:37.000I've also, in collaboration with John Four Arrows Jacobs, a distinguished A professor from Northern Arizona University written a book about the death of Senator Paul Wellstone entitled American Assassination.
02:42:50.000You can also get an introduction to that book on the website and discover all the evidence we're turning up that the same kinds of techniques that were used to conceal what happened to JFK are being used to conceal what happened to Paul Wellstone.
02:43:02.000And we'll go over that here in a second.
02:43:04.000Before we go any further with this, On the 40th anniversary, I got online and I averaged 12 national and several local polls together.
02:43:15.000Because I'd see a poll, a major poll, 82%, another poll, 94%.
02:43:24.000And scientific, unscientific, but even the scientific ones were all over 80%.
02:43:29.000I came up with 92% of the American people, and I used polls to ask the question, do you believe the U.S.
02:43:34.000government was involved, 92% When they were asked that, believe that the government killed Kennedy.
02:43:41.000Now, when we've got numbers like that, up from 80% just a few years ago, it's going to be a tiny minority, what, of one-half of 1% in a few years, on TV, telling us that the rest of us are kooks?
02:43:51.000Yeah, that's right, Alex, except when they control the mass media, you know, and the government, that doesn't give the rest of us much of a shot at it.
02:43:58.000Talk radio is one of the few bastions, and the internet, one of the few bastions where freedom of speech and freedom of inquiry still prevail.
02:44:39.000That's what they're going to try to pull, Alex.
02:44:42.000You know, it's a Twilight Zone episode.
02:44:45.000So, what are they going to do when all of us know the truth, but then we all still feel like we're alone and we're the minority because we don't have any mediums to communicate with each other?
02:44:54.000Oh, it's a terrible situation, you know.
02:44:56.000I mean, knowing the truth isn't destined to make you happy, unfortunately.
02:45:01.000The realities are getting more and more grim, and the theft of this last election is just stunning.
02:45:05.000In fact, when Wellstone was taken out, That was part and parcel of gaining control, Republican control.
02:45:12.000Yeah, give us the thumbnail, cursory, boil down, the synopsis, the cheat sheet on Wellstone.
02:45:21.000Well, the plane coming in for a conventional landing appears to have been hit by a new electromagnetic pulse weapon that takes out all the electronics, overwhelms the electrical circuits.
02:45:30.000That's what Pat did for 30 years, a microwave gun.
02:45:45.000The smoke was bluish-white, indicative of an electrical fire, not a fuel fire.
02:45:49.000In fact, most of the fuel was in the wings, which were broken off as the plane crashed.
02:45:53.000The NTSB claimed that they had simply the two pilots, one of whom had the highest possible qualification as an air transport pilot, Simply neglected the airspeed and altitude and allowed the plane to crash.
02:47:14.000A great threat to their vaunted invincibility as a political machine.
02:47:17.000Taking him out and stealing the election in Georgia using voting machines where the press reported an astonishing 16-point swing when the voters went into the polls.
02:47:25.000There aren't any astonishing 16-point swings, Alex.
02:48:20.000But you know, when I was going to, I and my co-author, who's a Native American and goes by Four Arrows, went to the National Press Club on the 25th of October to explain our findings about Wellstone's death and to call for a formal investigation.
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02:54:04.000Well, the fact of the matter is that the Wellstone case appears to have been a refinement of what happened to Mel Carnahan two years earlier.
02:54:10.000Carnahan's plane went down about three weeks before the election, and his wife survived him.
02:54:14.000In the case of Wellstone, that was reduced to ten days, and of course his wife was on board.
02:54:18.000The people of Missouri, of course, preferred to vote for a dead man than sending John Ashcroft back to the Senate.
02:54:23.000And in this case, it was done in such a way that Sheila, who was also a political activist, couldn't stand in for him.
02:54:30.000The government seems to have a foolproof way to get rid of its political opponents through plane crashes, Alex, for two very good reasons.
02:54:36.000One is, a plane crash can't be investigated as a crime scene unless the Attorney General declares it to be the scene of a crime.
02:54:42.000And number two, you're not going to believe this, NTSB reports aren't even admissible as evidence in court of law.
02:54:48.000Well, in this case, the FBI showed up almost immediately on the scene.
02:54:51.000Our County Sheriff Rick Waldron was there at 1.30, saw agents he knew from the Rapid Response Force in St.
02:54:56.000Paul who told him they'd been there since noon.
02:54:59.000Well, the crash site wasn't even found until 1 o'clock.
02:55:03.000The fire chief was up there at 11.15 trying to figure out how to get in there.
02:55:06.000They didn't tell the FBI this crash had taken place.
02:55:08.000I did a calculation, Alex, and in order for the FBI to be up there at the scene of the crash by noon, they had to have left St.
02:55:14.000Paul at 9.30, the same time the Senator's plane took off.
02:55:20.000They declared almost immediately that there were no signs of terrorist involvement.
02:55:24.000One of these cannons can be shot out of the back of a small truck.
02:55:28.000Yeah, oh yeah, that's right, or a van.
02:55:32.000They claimed there were no signs of terrorist involvement, but terrorist involvement, one very narrow range of political spectrum.
02:55:38.000It could have been anti-abortion activists, could have been the Delta team, and you'd have to know how the plane was taken out.
02:55:43.000It could have been a small bomb, a gas canister, or one of these EMP weapons.
02:55:47.000There was no way they could have known that at this point in time.
02:55:50.000The NTSB had, Carol Carmody used to work for the CIA, the next day announced there'd been no signs of terrorist activity, which he simply accepted from the FBI, even though it's the NTSB responsibility.
02:56:00.000And get this, Alex, there actually was a tie to Zacharias Moussaoui and the co-pilot.
02:56:06.000I'm gonna have to get you back up again, Dr. Fetzer.
02:56:08.000Have a good weekend and keep up the good work.
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