On December 7th, 2004, a day that will live in infamy, America and the American people were suddenly and systematically brutally attacked by our criminal government. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:33.000December 7th, 2004, a day that will live in infamy, America and the American people were suddenly and systematically brutally attacked by our criminal government.
00:01:00.000They are murdering it with extreme pleasure.
00:01:06.000Three weeks ago, they passed the new Freedom Initiative, the Sovietization of America, the fourth psychological testing of all children, and then starting with adults and pregnant women.
00:01:22.000The guidelines were written by the drug companies, their own public documents show it is all to make, quote, billions of dollars.
00:01:29.000The government lets them do it because they want a drugged out, controlled population.
00:01:35.000Yesterday, because none of the conservative publications would talk about it, Patriot Act II and the National ID Card passed the House.
00:01:51.000And I was listening to CBS morning radio news, and they came on and said, Arlen Specker says it'll keep you safe.
00:02:00.000Senator Lieberman, President Bush says he'll happily sign it as soon as the Senate's gotten their job done.
00:02:08.000It's a foregone conclusion in the media.
00:02:13.000And in polls when they say, you want us to fix the intelligence agencies?
00:02:42.000Is in this legislation that is now on the door of the Senate.
00:02:46.000They're in there, not even really debating it right now.
00:02:50.000It's a question of, if you don't pass this, the Al-Qaeda is going to get us and then it's going to be the fault of those that didn't pass it.
00:02:59.000That's the essence of the definition of terrorism.
00:03:21.000Individuals that sell knock-off Rubik's Cubes.
00:03:26.000this is what patriot acts are all about and now they have rammed it through the house and it's going into the senate That is the definition of terrorism.
00:03:44.000The old definition is to threaten violence or carry out violence, to scare a population or individuals into acquiescing to your demands.
00:03:53.000Pass these bills or Al-Qaeda is gonna get ya!
00:03:59.000Give up your freedoms or America dies.
00:04:07.000Pretty simple to see who the terrorists are.
00:04:12.000By the way, this bill has nothing in it about driver's license for illegal aliens, nothing in it about the open borders.
00:04:18.000Good Republican congressmen tried to introduce legislation, a congresswoman I should add, that would have made it a federal crime and not allowed all these driver's licenses to be issued to all these foreigners, these illegal aliens.
00:05:17.000The film documents dozens of confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism worldwide.
00:05:22.000We rip the Sinister Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart piece by piece and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty.
00:05:31.000Homeland Security, Executive Orders, Force Vaccinations, the new prison economy, the Total Information Society, the Pan American Union, federal gun grabs, government-run, white slavery rings, and much, much more.
00:05:41.000If you want to understand what the new order really is, then my new two-and-a-half-hour video, Police State 3, is for you.
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00:08:31.000And I'd like to say that I have no doubt in the resolve of the American people to rise up against this unprovoked and deliberate sneak attack.
00:08:44.000Of course, that's an allusion to Pearl Harbor.
00:08:47.000At least back then, our government just didn't warn the troops.
00:08:52.000They didn't carry out the attacks themselves, like they did on 9-11.
00:08:57.000By the way, it's admitted, not just that the codes were broken at Pearl Harbor, not just that the Honolulu advertiser, the big daily paper, a week before, actually eight days before, headline, Pearl Harbor to be attacked on December 7th.
00:09:21.000It wasn't the new fleet was out to sea and the old fleet tied up in neat little rows and people giving the day off.
00:09:29.000The biggest piece of evidence was the fact that four separate midget pocket subs Two man subs were sunk that morning, hours before the 300 aircraft of the Empire of Japan attacked.
00:10:29.000Just blowing some submarines up right now.
00:10:32.000This has always been hidden in plain view.
00:10:35.000But a couple years ago, CNN did do a report that, quote, we attacked first, and it was admitted, okay, declassified, we were sinking the submarines that morning.
00:10:48.000And see, that's just a fact you can't ignore.
00:10:52.000But December 7th, DECEMBER 7TH, 2004, I mean, you really ought to look at your children, folks, and know The world you're giving them, because they look up to you, they count on you to protect them, they have total confidence in you, and we are delivering them into a cross between the East German Stasi, the Nazi Gestapo, and the Russian GRU.
00:11:42.000Many years in the making, many years in training and forging these implements to knock down the gates of America and to sack the inner city and burn it to the ground.
00:12:18.000Thank Mr. Dice and the folks that answer the phones and Ron Paul, their whole staff.
00:12:24.000Because they're still there in Washington fighting.
00:12:27.000Fighting what's happening in the Senate.
00:12:29.000Everybody else from the House is leaving today.
00:12:34.000They're still there fighting what's happening in the Senate right now.
00:12:37.000You probably don't know what's happening in the Senate right now if you're a new listener that just tuned in, because the mainstream media won't tell you about it!
00:12:47.000And of course, even when it's not a sneak attack like the faith-based initiatives to take over the churches and federalize them, or even when it's public and it's not a sneak attack like the New Freedom Initiative to forcibly, psychologically test every child in the country, public, private, or homeschooled, at gunpoint if need be, they've actually passed that.
00:13:06.000That wasn't a sneak attack, and they got millions of calls, millions of news reported, but they just said, we don't care.
00:13:45.000Internal hardened checkpoints where you'll have the equivalent of TSA people fondling you and your wife and children and throwing your goods out on the road at hardened checkpoints.
00:15:30.000You see, I thought Homeland Security was supposed to save us, but, oh, that's not enough.
00:15:33.000Now we need a new super agency, and then even more controls.
00:15:37.000And all of this going on while the border is more open than ever.
00:15:43.000And good congressmen said, well, if you're going to pass this, we might as well get it in there that illegal aliens can't be issued driver's licenses by states, as long as we're federalizing IDs.
00:15:53.000And they said, no, we're going to accept.
00:15:56.000We're going to accept consular matriculas.
00:15:58.000And we're going to let the states keep doing this to anybody with no proof of who they are.
00:16:03.000But citizens have to jump through innumerable hoops.
00:16:18.000Ron Paul's press secretary, Jeff Deist, called me to warn that the legislation that encompasses the National ID Card and Patriot 2 provisions was on the verge of passing the House tonight.
00:16:31.000Deist stated that the bill and what it means for America could be described in a word as tyranny.
00:16:41.000Dice's tone was very serious, and their office was frantic to get this word out.
00:16:52.000And I made it clear, of course, in a radio interview that I did right after that, that they were very earnest to warn people that it was a war room atmosphere.
00:17:02.000Dice and Ron Paul were desperate to mobilize The alternative media before the bill reaches the Senate tomorrow.
00:17:14.000There is still a chance that we can shoot down the national ID card provisions before the bill is passed in full.
00:17:21.000Dice went on to explain his disbelief at how the so-called conservative Bush administration had betrayed America and how Paul's colleagues on Capitol Hill were blindly going along with this and doing whatever Bush tells them to do without question.
00:17:39.000And Ron Paul's giving his neocon speech, saying the same thing.
00:17:43.000Again, Paul was on the floor fighting it at the time.
00:17:45.000And Dice, there he was, and the whole staff calling people, trying to warn them, trying to do something, because it was not the news!
00:17:52.000For the past two days, mainstream news articles have talked of a compromise which was made with the few dissenting voices, and the bill would be steamrolled through.
00:18:03.000However, those articles fail to mention the very worst aspects of the bill.
00:18:06.000Instead, pitching it as a mere Reformation of Intelligence, Communication and Protocol.
00:18:14.000Please call your Congressional Office right now and vote your opposition to this bill.
00:18:19.000And it passed in the House last night.
00:18:21.0002845 the national ID card clause which will be tied into the new sales tax and all the nightmares in S 2845 is 7212 7212 and here is an article written by Ron Paul last night after it passed This is on PrisonPlanet.com.
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00:24:17.000I hope you want to talk about Patriot Act 2 and the National ID Card.
00:24:24.000And I got up against that hard break there, and it sounded like doublespeak.
00:24:29.000I said, they don't have the excuse of saying they couldn't read this bill.
00:24:32.000Then I read Ron Paul's headline, Police State ID Card Bill Passes Without Congress Even Reading It.
00:24:37.000That is, we knew the provisions and subsections that have been added months ago for a National ID Card, federal standardization of that, and for Patriot Act, too.
00:24:49.000But thousands of pages were then added When this thing was brought back up for a vote yesterday.
00:24:55.000So, whole giant sections hadn't even been looked at.
00:25:01.000No one had a chance to read large portions of it, so we don't even know.
00:25:06.000And Ron Paul says here in this legislative update from last night after it passed the House that we don't even know what's in the Senate.
00:25:12.000We know the 3,000 pages that went to them.
00:25:39.000House passed the conference report on the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act by a vote of 336 A's or I's to 75 No's vote tally.
00:26:40.000Legislation will greatly affect various intelligence and military agencies and procedures, financial systems, international relations, not to mention civil liberties in addition.
00:26:49.000The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the legislation will cost $14.4 billion to implement over the next four years.
00:26:58.000That's $14.4 billion on top of the normal annual budgets for the various governmental agencies involved.
00:27:05.000Yet this monumental legislation will be voted on by members of Congress without those members having had time to read it, let alone study the bill.
00:27:18.000House is expected to vote on the 9-11 bill sometime today or tomorrow, but at this moment there isn't a copy of the final bill available for House members to read.
00:28:05.000Everyone is talking about the monumental legislation as if they've read it.
00:28:09.000News reporters, commentators, political analysts, think tanks, 9-11 families, and yes, members of Congress are busy sounding off as experts trying to convince the American public that Congress should pass it.
00:28:19.000Have any of these people actually read it?
00:28:22.000Their opinions are just based upon someone else's opinions that are based upon other people's opinions and so on.
00:28:30.000The House version of the Intelligence Reorganization Bill is in two volumes.
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00:33:21.000We didn't have enough time to debate that.
00:33:22.000And if that fellow is listening and wants to call in on the next hour, he's welcome to.
00:33:28.000And we can debate that and discuss that.
00:34:07.000And we had some of the subsections, and after it was passed and voted on, they got a copy of the bill, and it did indeed have what it had in it two weeks ago, the National ID Card and Patriot Act 2.
00:34:18.000And again, they passed parts of Patriot Act 2, back with the Intelligence Enhancement Act, and another act they had, what was it?
00:34:30.000It was December 13th of 2003, almost a year ago, when that passed.
00:34:42.000And they announced it on the same day that they captured Saddam's.
00:34:49.000They passed a large portion of it then.
00:34:52.000But it looks like larger portions, if not added Patriot Act to garbage, was in this one.
00:34:58.000And I'm going to try, now that it's public, to look at the Three thousand something pages.
00:35:03.000I would challenge you as listeners to go to thomas.loc.gov.
00:35:08.000Hundreds of folks that want to take action, or the thousands of internet listeners that want to take action, you might go to thomas.loc.gov and type in the bill number, S2845, And I would hope it's been posted there now.
00:35:23.000It went to Congress after they passed it.
00:35:58.000Well, I've got a question that's nothing to do with that Patriot stuff, but I've heard you and Jack Blood and Darryl Brown talk about Masonic this and Mason that.
00:36:07.000What's Masons and who are they and can you elaborate on that a little bit?
00:36:50.000Well, mathematics was just as important to people a couple thousand years ago, I don't know, 2400 years ago with King Solomon.
00:37:02.000They knew how secret construction guilds that have been based in Egypt knew mathematics, how to build the arch, concrete, How to put pillars up, how to build structures.
00:37:16.000And those were big secrets because for the men that knew how to do it, they were at the highest levels of government and were very wealthy.
00:37:25.000And so they were very selective about who they taught construction secrets to.
00:37:30.000And of course now those construction secrets are open to anybody that wants to go get an engineering degree and has a mathematical brain.
00:39:00.000Talking about the media there and how they're selling us out by not covering all this, I have a new acronym for them, Manipulators Eroding Democracy in America.
00:39:31.000They had the police chief on a Kudlow and Kramer show, I think, and they were interviewing him about this passage of the National ID Card.
00:39:40.000Wait a minute, they actually admitted it?
00:39:42.000Well, they were talking about it, and what the police chief did admit to, I'm paraphrasing here, is that, I think I've come around, he was saying, that we need to accept this national ID card as a real thing, and that Americans really should be thinking about giving up some of their rights for security, and then the guys come back, and it was like, oh, I couldn't agree with you more, and it was just like total brainwashing, and, you know, anyone that's still getting all of their information just from the mainstream media are total, what I call, Stepfords.
00:41:01.000I wanted to go eat their salad bar, and I get some of the children's menu with the Crayolas, and on it, it's cops with billy clubs swinging them at you, and it says the CIA is law enforcement, they're here to help you, and then it was just cops helping children, and it says they're the greatest heroes you can have, Maybe a cop who does something heroic is a hero, but they're not all heroes.
00:41:46.000It's like the cigarette companies even lower and lower and lower to try to get their propaganda across.
00:41:51.000I was hoping you could comment quickly on two things that I see that are going to happen before the final push for the big power grab is they're going to have to work on their gun grab.
00:42:04.000And I can see the final collapse of the economic situation here with the devaluation of the dollar.
00:42:21.000Sometime in the next year, they might wait two years while they train their people and put all their police state in place and put more face scanning cameras up on the smallest rural roads.
00:42:33.000and license plate scanning cameras but a massive terror attack of suitcase nuke or radiological bomb uh...
00:42:40.000maybe a smallpox release this is what the cfr is saying will happen and then things are really going to break down but if the economic collapse comes faster they may go ahead and do it the next few months this could happen anytime uh...
00:42:54.000just right in the middle of an economic crash they will then carry out a terror attack that will cause the people not to blame the government It'll cause the people to rally around the government, even though stuff's tough and having to take your pension funds.
00:43:06.000Man, Al Qaeda, you're better off than those people in that big city where, you know, 200,000 died when the nuke went off.
00:43:14.000We thought the world changed forever after 9-11.
00:43:16.000And some people said, don't take our rights for security.
00:43:20.000Boy, they're being shown for the traitors they are.
00:43:23.000In fact, some of them are being arrested right now.
00:43:58.000There won't be any of that, it'll just be, the government is saving you, the new freedom is here.
00:44:04.000And they've got all their laws lined up, all their things, and then sees this atmosphere of tyranny.
00:44:09.000While that happens, then riots broke out in surrounding areas during the quarantine.
00:44:15.000And there were running gun battles with police.
00:44:17.000I'm sorry, as it spreads, everyone, if you want food to be delivered to your local area, you've got to come in and turn in your firearms or report who's got them.
00:44:26.000Now, if you want to keep your firearm, we've got a quick little database check we can do.
00:44:30.000You can come in for a week-long training seminar, and then you may be given a firearm as an auxiliary force leader in your area.
00:44:38.000So you'll have squads of yuppies and people who need a job, and so they'll all be part of that.
00:45:24.000Hey Alex, I have to put you on the spot here, but I get to renew my license in a year or so.
00:45:30.000And my question is, I don't know how the state of Ohio is, but when they start asking for retina scans, what would you recommend for people like myself if that's going to be the law in a year?
00:45:39.000Because that's when my expiration comes up.
00:45:41.000And also, will you personally be willing to do that yourself?
00:45:45.000Well, let me, again this is a big question.
00:47:04.000It was about getting it on the local news, showing what was happening.
00:47:07.000And my analogy was Rosa Parks, you know, why didn't she just put Uh, clown pancake makeup on, and act like she was a white lady, and then she could have ridden at the front of the bus.
00:47:21.000Well, it wasn't about her individually, it was about drawing attention.
00:47:27.000And so, while I fight the National ID Card, and while I go against it, if I can't get on an airplane to fly to L.A.
00:47:34.000to go on national TV and fight the National ID Card, Then you have to weigh that.
00:47:41.000Let's say we go into a total police state, total New World Order takeover, and I've got to have something to travel to do something I need to do.
00:48:03.000We fight employers that try to make us have it.
00:48:06.000We go against that, but understand, the retina scanners and thumb prints are in the bill, but they can also have a face print, which is a digital photo, or a thumb print.
00:48:16.000Understand, sir, any camera of a high enough digital quality, which is just mid-grade, they're already face scanning you on the street.
00:48:23.000Right, but it almost seems like you're at the somewhat acquiescence, because the fact of the matter is, Alex, And I understand your position.
00:48:31.000Now where would you draw the line if they said we need to put a biometric chip under your skin?
00:48:56.000I'm not saying I'm the Grand Poobah here.
00:48:59.000What I'm trying to get at is when you walk outside or you walk to the mall or when you walk in a hotel Or when you walk up to that camera on the street corner, most of those have face scanning software.
00:49:37.000Now they're going to tie it to all that.
00:49:41.000But no, when it comes to the point of take a chip, and you'll be a trusted citizen, even after the nuke, or the smallpox release, they still won't make you.
00:49:50.000It'll just be, well, you're automatically pulled over, or you're not trusted to go in the mall, or certain grocery stores aren't going to let you, and they're going to have mass tipping centers.
00:50:03.000I was telling you yesterday about people getting off the grid system, and I'm saying seriously that if this thing gets so tyrannical that people's lives are miserable, I would recommend people quit their jobs and just work for food and just live like vagabonds in the hills.
00:50:17.000I agree with you, but then what are you going to do when they have mop-up ops and they send out the local ghoul squad to go to your little camp because you're probably a terrorist?
00:50:30.000You know what you're going to have to do.
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00:54:30.000government expert who was inside Homeland Security meetings, he wants to come on today, so we'll have him on as a guest the next hour, and so does Jack McClamp.
00:54:39.000And I'm glad both these gentlemen called, police and military against the New World Order.
00:54:42.000We'll just have him on as a guest the next hour and take your calls.
00:54:47.000And I got a fever and a cold, folks, so I'm going to be running a rebroadcast of that microchipping interview I did last week in the third hour.
00:54:54.000I probably shouldn't even be in here today because it will end up making me sicker longer, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
00:55:00.000I just could not come in and do the broadcast today.
00:55:05.000Before I go to David in Illinois and others that are patiently holding, I really hope you'll listen to my call and take action and realize that they may put in whatever laws they want.
00:55:16.000They can say black people aren't human beings again.
00:57:17.000Will you be called to stand up and stand in the light and not hide in the darkness and stand up for your children and your humanity and decency and honor?
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01:00:26.000I just noticed after the big WrestleMania where a macho man, John Kerry, took the big flip-flop and dived for a gorgeous George W. But, uh, you know, all the Democrats, they're just stepping right in line now with everything Bush wants.
01:00:41.000And this new thing is just more proof.
01:00:44.000You know, you got the majority of people who voted for this are Democrats, and only eight Democrats voted no on it.
01:00:50.000That's right, only of the 76 that voted against it, let me get the actual numbers, my brain isn't working very good today, 75 knows only a few were Democrats, you're right, 60 plus of them were Republicans, who I guess haven't gotten the word yet that it's okay, it doesn't matter if all the people are against this, we've got electronic voting machines in place for you, you don't have to do what the people want anymore.
01:01:16.000Yeah, exactly, I mean... That's why all this new arrogance is here.
01:01:20.000Well sometimes I think the only way we might get any attention is get on a Major League Baseball team and take steroids.
01:01:32.000About the driver's license thing, I got pulled over for that in Illinois.
01:01:39.000Basically, they won't really do anything to you.
01:01:41.000They'll just tell you to go get another driver's license.
01:01:43.000You can just say, you know, oh, I didn't even notice that.
01:01:45.000No, I know, but the problem starts when you try to fly to New York to cover the RNC, or you try to get press passes into the RNC, or you try to get on an airplane to Los Angeles.
01:01:57.000But I will not take the chip and I'm going to fight any employer that ever tries to use indexes and these national ID cards.
01:02:04.000The problem is they're going to enforce it through the employers and then I'm not going to swipe it for the new national sales tax they're going to have.
01:02:11.000And at that point I won't be able to get food.
01:02:14.000They'll have to have people that have cards to go get you the food.
01:02:16.000So it becomes a... I mean this is a nightmare situation.
01:02:20.000Well you know the FDA will keep you safe like they just bought a bunch of Blackstone Smith, Kline...
01:02:28.000Experimental food, you know, vaccines, with our tax dollars.
01:02:33.000Well, I mean, there's new stuff out where they're not just testing pesticides on foster kids and AIDS drugs that kill them.
01:02:38.000Now they're going to test psychotropics on kids they've grabbed.
01:02:42.000I mean, they literally grab people's children.
01:02:58.000And, you know, GlaxoSmithKline, they're the big fuzzy guys who went and, you know, would do HIV experiments on orphans, and, you know, as young as four months old and stuff like that.
01:03:15.000How about we all just go to sleep and everything's alright, let the dollar plunge and let them de-industrialize us, and let's go ahead and have a Pan-American Union and get rid of the borders.
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01:07:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:07:13.000That's right, from here in the heart of the War Room, one of our little bases in the fight against the New World Order, Austin, Texas, I'm your host, Patriot Act 2 National ID Card 3,300 plus page bill passed.
01:07:33.000We'd seen subsections of it weeks ago, but they'd added hundreds of new subsections.
01:07:37.000No one was allowed to read it, and it passed the House yesterday.
01:07:40.000300 to just 75 to give you the actual vote on the bill.
01:07:47.000To give you the actual vote on the bill, 336 yeses, 75 nays, and it was only a few Republicans that voted against it.
01:07:59.000The Democrats love Lord Bush in their actions, not in their rhetoric.
01:08:07.000And we at least morally have to call the Senate and tell them how dare you engage in this traitorous activity.
01:08:13.000But even as they try to implement domestic checkpoints and all the stuff that's in the bill, even as they try to implement all of this, We have a responsibility to fight at our local level, and there we can actually have an effect.
01:08:29.000Now, we got Dr. Deagle on, we got Jack McClam on for this hour, and we got loaded phone lines, so we're at the limit.
01:08:48.000And we'll have to limit how long the callers are monitored.
01:08:50.000There's a lot of news and information to cover, but we will get to Mike and Brian and Michael and Tammy and John and everybody else that is patiently, patiently holding.
01:09:02.000And again, a couple weeks ago they passed the new Freedom Initiative for psychological testing and drugging.
01:09:08.000That's even going to begin for adults.
01:09:14.000Brother, a lot is happening and I don't want to interfere with the very important information you're giving out and what you're doing right now.
01:09:22.000I want to keep you on this hour with us.
01:09:28.000I was just calling to give you an update on Leonard Gamage, yesterday, who you had on your show.
01:09:35.000Our two police and military associations up here in Idaho.
01:09:39.000I picked up your show yesterday, you know, the old good World War II Flying Tiger Lieutenant Colonel Leonard Gamage was on your show and of course we really picked up on that Alex and wanted to tell you thanks for having him on and our police and military association here has been working to try to get this sheriff to return his weapons And again, for those that don't know, he was brutally attacked at his home by a 20-year-old thug.
01:10:20.000But yeah, the Sheriff then came out to his house and there's no telling what's going to happen to Mr. Gammage, but what's the latest developments?
01:10:28.000Well, he told me today I had him on my show.
01:10:31.000Thanks to you, Alex, we found out about him.
01:10:33.000Had him on our program last night and one this morning.
01:10:37.000And we're finally getting some people contacting the Sheriff.
01:10:44.000And Leonard told us this, he says that he's a friend of Congressman Lane Evans, there in Illinois is the federal congressman, Lane Evans, and he said if some people would call Lane Evans' office and tell him that Leonard had eaten dinner with his mom and him and had been on the first bus trip at the first inaugural for Lane Evans, that he would remember him and he donates to his campaign.
01:11:11.000And see if he couldn't get Lane Evans, the congressman, to contact this sheriff and try to get his guns back, because he didn't sleep well last night, Alex.
01:11:20.000He's 87 years old, as you know, and he knows now he's got this There's a suspect out there that he shot in the foot that's bonded out and is loose.
01:11:31.000And of course the sheriff took him to the police.
01:11:33.000What would you have done if that guy was in your house?
01:11:35.000Well, I taught firearms training for years to private citizens and law enforcement.
01:11:41.000We always told them to shoot per center of mass and then be sure you're the only liar on the witness stand.
01:11:49.000And so that's what we would teach the citizens.
01:11:53.000Take these people out because If you don't, they'll come back to get you, or they'll sue you and take your home and your farm and everything, and that could very well happen to Leonard.
01:12:03.000But we're very concerned about his safety right now, sitting at home alone.
01:12:07.000No, I hear you, Jack, and folks should call the Sheriff.
01:12:11.000Do you have the number for Lane Evans?
01:12:32.000Let me get your take now on the National ID Card Patriot Act 2 passing the house last night.
01:12:41.000Well, it's the beginning, as you know Alex, of total martial law in this country.
01:12:48.000Our Police and Military Association knows that.
01:12:51.000It's just the beginning and By perpetuating these terrorist attacks that are coming, they will get the American people to accept these things for their own safety and security, which is a laugh.
01:13:04.000As you know, I was a police officer for years down on the southern border of Arizona, and that 2,000 miles of open border just makes this whole homeland security thing just a laugh and a fraud.
01:13:17.000Because you can't have Homeland Security when you're getting forced out.
01:13:20.000They're going to have internal checkpoints in Illinois and Texas and every other state.
01:13:52.000And our police and military association is promoting the fact that you can't have homeland security When your borders are totally unguarded, and then we're going through martial law at the airport and preparing us to accept these things for our own safety.
01:14:08.000And they come out and admit, yes we fondle your wife, yes we check all this, and yes we do this, and yes.
01:14:14.000It's just training us how to be humiliated.
01:14:17.000Yes, we have about four comments from PSA employees that really are upset about having to do this to people.
01:14:25.000Yeah, they've been telling the news that I wouldn't do this to my mother.
01:14:31.000It is a plan to subjugate the American people under this totalitarian system.
01:14:39.000If you stand there and watch your wife literally having a man put his hands, and they say lingering up to two minutes, on not just the woman's
01:14:51.000Yes, we had a TSA employee tell us that what's going on is they're laughing about these things, some of them, and they're making those little machines go off on purpose to those big-breasted ladies that come through that are well endowed so that they can get them
01:15:18.000Off to the side and have their way with them and so they're really, some of them, yucking this up.
01:15:50.000Yeah, they don't want to do any profiling against terrorists.
01:15:54.000Only, it's like Craig Roberts told me, that every time he goes to the airport, he's profiled.
01:16:00.000They stop him and pull him off and do the heavy, heavy duty check on him.
01:16:05.000I've had the same thing happen to me, Alex, where they actually came on the airplane and took me off and did it a second time.
01:16:13.000Hey, Jack, I, and everybody talks about this, so it must be that this is what they do, every time I'm at the airport, if there's an old man, and I've seen this twice, literally, One time, the guy was even wearing his little veteran's cap.
01:16:55.000Well, they had an article, it was in the Boston Global a few years ago, where 96% of people weren't citizens at the Boston airport, and half of those were illegal aliens.
01:17:51.000Yeah, we're fortunate that people are getting these sheriff's videos we put out for their local sheriff there that is really helping the sheriffs understand their powers, duties, and jurisdiction.
01:18:05.000And, uh, so we're pleased here at our Police and Military Association that people are getting these sheriff's videos telling them that they have to stand up against these things.
01:18:15.000Are you, uh... And they have the duty and power to do it!
01:18:17.000I know you get contacted by military and police multiple times an hour, but are people in the military really starting to see it even clearer now?
01:18:28.000Our biggest thing is that they say And we're over here risking our lives, allegedly, for America and at the same time our parents and children are losing their freedoms back home.
01:18:45.000Let's come back and talk to Mike and Brian and Michael and Tammy and John.
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01:23:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:23:05.000Jack, with all these big, horrible things happening to the country, the plunging dollar, the dismantling...
01:23:18.000People say, well, why would they want to do bad things to us?
01:23:21.000Why would they want to set up a police state?
01:23:22.000Well, a police state is so they can have their way with you.
01:23:27.000It's about enslaving you so they can feed on you.
01:23:31.000The globalists are greedy and dark-hearted creatures.
01:23:35.000And I can't think of a better example of just the atmosphere in America where a flying tiger veteran of World War II, a colonel, you know, shoots an intruder and they come take his guns.
01:23:49.000Here's a man that served his country and continued to be a tremendous citizen.
01:23:54.000He's been involved in politics, helping Congressman Lane Evans in office and other activities all these years, 87 years of age.
01:24:04.000And now this one time when the Constitution, the right to keep and bear arms, should be upheld for him, That he fought for, and could have died for, flying with the Flying Tigers.
01:24:21.000The sheriff was more than willing to come in and take his protection, but when 87-year-old Leonard Gamage looked into his eyes and says, could you send me some protection?
01:24:32.000Could you send over somebody to protect me from this thug who's now out on the street?
01:25:09.000For my efforts, following Texas law, by the way, on self-defense in defense of a third party, I was convicted of murder and had to go to the Texas prison system for a number of years and was on parole for 15 years.
01:25:26.000The guy was a mason and I wasn't, so I had deputies working for me at the time in my automotive repair shop that told me, they were part-time workers and full-time deputies, They told me that where it is downtown, you're going down.
01:25:39.000So, even though my attorney was the ex-prosecutor, and my brother was a cop, I grew up with the cops, Henry Wade called my little brother in and said, if you testify in your brother's trial, you will be fired.
01:25:53.000So it was a setup deal from the get-go.
01:25:55.000The bottom line to all that is... Your brother still should have testified even if he got fired.
01:26:01.000He would have if there was anything pertinent he could have said.
01:26:36.000Multiple witnesses had a peace bond on the guy, had called the cops several times, and of course what they always told me was, is he there yet?
01:26:43.000He's going to kill you, yeah, but is he there yet?
01:27:26.000Yeah, I sent you an email earlier, actually.
01:27:27.000He died of lead poisoning on the spot.
01:27:29.000But, um, it was, uh, I wouldn't hesitate to do it again, even though my life was ruined and I spent $100,000 in legal fees and got convicted anyway.
01:27:40.000Uh, I just want to tell the people out there that it is very important that you defend yourself And you know, the old saying is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 is very, very true.
01:27:54.000I can tell you, I could go on for two months, Alex, telling you about the young girls They've been broken in on, and they had no way to protect their kids, and their kids were killed and everything.
01:28:06.000Well, it's like the story where the guy's using the axe.
01:28:08.000It was the pitchfork to kill all the little kids, and the 14-year-old could have gotten to the .22 or the rifle, but it was locked up because of the California law.
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01:32:16.000We're about to go to Brian and Michael and Tammy and many others that are holding.
01:32:22.000Dr. Deagle, you had comments about this National ID card?
01:32:25.000Yeah, first thing I want to say is actually a comment to everyone listening.
01:32:30.000In the ten years that you've been doing your broadcasting, this is probably the most important broadcast that you've done in terms of what it's going to do to American civilization.
01:32:40.000If we don't stand up now with Alex and with what he's doing to try to get the truth out and take action, it's over.
01:32:48.000The Constitution is going to be nullified with this Patriot Act too.
01:32:51.000I've talked to legal experts, in fact I talked to a constitutional expert in federal law yesterday.
01:32:56.000I was shown the national ID At least one version of it, which is sitting in a warehouse in Illinois.
01:33:02.000Both the National ID card as well as the implantable chips for titanium and Pyrex.
01:33:07.000They don't plan on just chipping you so they can track you.
01:33:10.000These are tracked by the same towers as cell phones and low-earth orbit satellites.
01:33:14.000They want to eventually wet-wire your brain.
01:33:17.000And I've seen the experiments first-hand when I was recruited and turned the project down for a CIA project in 1978 at UCLA VA Wadsworth Hospital.
01:33:48.000Our police and military association here has checked this out, and we've looked at it every angle we possibly can, and the system set up today With our borders totally unguarded.
01:34:01.000And we know we have Border Patrol agents on our mailing list here who talk to us about the 4,000 a night coming through just alone through the Arizona border that they don't catch.
01:34:13.000It has nothing to do with security of the American people whatsoever.
01:34:17.000It has to do with control of the American people.
01:34:21.000The legislation says internal checkpoints, internal passports, all the nightmares of the airports, now to be phased in, it's always incremental, now not just the cameras on your street corner, but little checkpoints.
01:35:13.000Our whole work here as volunteer police and soldiers is to awaken our police and soldiers.
01:35:18.000Because we know, of course, that if it is we, the police and soldiers, that are going to be the enforcers, that if we We say no to enforcing tyranny, it won't get enforced.
01:35:30.000And by the way, police and military, you're citizens too, you're allowed to stand up and say you don't like all this.
01:35:38.000If I had a job and they told me to go run off a cliff, I'm going to say no, I'm not going to do that.
01:35:42.000Yes, it has been brought up to this Sheriff Michael Johnson there in Illinois that took the guns away from our World War II vet and left him defenseless that he says, well I have to uphold the law.
01:35:56.000Well, what happened to his constitutional oath that is the supremacy clause under Article 6?
01:36:37.000And by the way, half the time this happens, it is minority kids doing it to get attention.
01:36:43.000In fact, more than half the cases at colleges and streets and synagogues, when we research it, it usually comes out, and this happens over in Europe too, it is groups doing it to themselves for attention.
01:36:54.000I don't know about this case, but in a lot of cases it is.
01:36:57.000In fact, Jack, you see that a lot in law enforcement, don't you?
01:37:01.000In Phoenix, we had kids doing swastikas for certain groups of Jewish people that wanted the attention to pass these hate crime legislation.
01:37:22.000Yeah, I think that we have to all wake up.
01:37:25.000I believe in the 2% rule, which is, I think, the basis behind what your program has.
01:37:30.000Which is, if 2% of people start yelling along with Alex Jones, across this nation and across the world that are listening on the internet, this won't happen.
01:37:40.000But if we don't, terror is months or weeks or just a couple years away and we don't know.
01:37:46.000Well clearly 9-11 is just a setup for bigger events.
01:37:51.000Well, when I sat in that meeting we talked about a few weeks ago on air, between the FBI and the CDC director, The FBI Director said there will be a Pearl Harbor event and of course we just passed the date when Pearl Harbor, of course, we know it was manufactured, happened.
01:38:06.000So guess what we're going to have again?
01:38:11.000We're going to receive Patriot Act II.
01:38:14.000And don't think if you're in another country like Canada or Britain or anywhere else it's not going to come to you because what they do in America will be replicated everywhere but it'll be a nicer version.
01:38:24.000They're worried about Americans because they have to disarm you because you'll stand up and fight.
01:38:28.000Right now, many of them are asleep, but they're going to start waking up when all of a sudden their money's worth nothing, they don't have a job, and they realize that they're now being told to report to shipping stations or to report to mandatory vaccinations that might kill them.
01:38:43.000And I can tell you as a doctor... And that's the model states held in the Emergency Powers Act.
01:38:48.000Yes, and these things are mandatory, and if you don't, You are a terrorist by definition and you're taking away... Well, I hear this all the time.
01:38:55.000I'll hear about a barroom fight and they go, he was engaging in a terrorist attack.
01:39:04.000Jack, I'm sure you heard about the lady selling the knockoff Rubik's Cubes that got a Homeland Security visitor, the veteran who called and complained too much.
01:39:15.000We've got a wonderful micro-broadcaster on the mountain up here that There's our, your show with us every day.
01:39:21.000Here at our Police and Military Association.
01:39:23.000I mean, I have hundreds of examples, Jack, now where again, a kid with a half ounce of pot, they go, you don't get any rights, uh, we're just gonna send you straight to jail under the Patriot Act.
01:39:33.000I mean, folks, this has nothing to do with terrorism.
01:40:05.000It's for homeschoolers, gun owners, Christians, somebody that has an anti-UN sticker on their car, Major law enforcement magazines say, go ahead and arrest them.
01:40:15.000And police chiefs, don't criticize your officers.
01:40:21.000Yes, I just reached over when you said that Alex had picked up this FBI brochure for eyes only of police officers given out in Phoenix and other cities to police officers only that have listed on there Christians and patriotic Americans that are suspected domestic terrorists.
01:40:40.000And it says those that make frequent references to the Constitution.
01:41:37.000But they didn't withdraw the designation.
01:41:40.000Well, what about Michigan two months ago?
01:41:43.000They were told, if you want this Homeland Security funding, you've got to have a set of drills where simulated homeschooler parents murder everyone at the school and start blowing up school buses.
01:41:55.000And they had 200 children had to take part in this and simulate with fake blood and arms blown off how bad the homeschoolers are, how they killed them.
01:42:04.000And by the way, folks, in my film, Police State 3, we get into that, but in Road to Tyranny, a three-year-old film, almost three years old, in 9-11, the Road to Tyranny, we have video from Kansas City, as FEMA says, all Christians are enemies of the government and terrorists.
01:42:34.000The writing, there's so much writing on the wall, the wall fell down as the old saying goes.
01:42:39.000So it's time the American people wake up and take out, get out of your prayer closets, get out there on the field and start educating people as fast as we can.
01:42:50.000We're turning this thing around, Alex, as you know, but they've got a long way to go because if they do this next terrorist attack, And suspend the Constitution, which means the First Amendment.
01:43:04.000You and I, brother, are off the radio, and the doctor's off the radio, and whoever we have informed at that time is maybe all that will get informed.
01:43:15.000But we've got a big job to do very rapidly before they set off this next absolutely horrific, probably 100,000 to 200,000 Americans will be killed in this next one because They've got to get the people to give up their girls and boys for this draft coming up.
01:43:30.000They've got to get into Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria.
01:43:34.000And they've got to have the American people acquiesce to that.
01:43:38.000So they've got to have another horrendous terrorist attack on America.
01:43:43.000We've got a lot of work to do while we still have the First Amendment.
01:43:50.000Yeah, back in March 1 of 2001 at the Evans Mark Hotel when I spoke to the FBI Director, he said there will be a Pearl Harbor event that will bring about the national ID that will be put in you and will kill 50 to 500,000 and he repeated it three times.
01:44:05.000This was in detail when over the... Well, the CFR, the CFR's been all over television saying this.
01:44:13.000And the national ID is tied directly To the Council on Foreign Relations article back in September of 1970.
01:44:18.000They talked about evaluated tax that they have in Europe, and they have in Canada, and they have elsewhere, in New Zealand and Australia.
01:44:26.000Where they want to replace the income tax with a tax of transaction.
01:44:30.000And if you don't have one of these ID cards, in the future you will not be able to buy or sell.
01:44:35.000And the reason is, just like with the new internet tax Bush signed last Friday.
01:44:42.000Comes in in 07, the grandfather Now understand folks, this national ID card, the poor people won't have to pay a sales tax because that's fair, which I actually agree.
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01:45:00.000That's why they've got to have it all standardized, and they're going to keep the income tax at 10%, quote, for Social Security, then ratchet that back up.
01:45:31.000Okay, what I wanted to go back to is some of what Dr. Diegel was saying about another caller last hour.
01:45:36.000Can you just imagine How far along they would be if it wasn't for the resistance of alternative media outlets like these.
01:45:45.000And we need to be very prepared to support our small and independent media because with this coming digital television and digital radio they're trying to push on us.
01:45:55.000There's a lot of shaking up that's going on.
01:45:57.000Be ready to go protest your cable company if they're going to Shut down the cable access station all across this country.
01:46:05.000This kind of stuff is going to be, I think, turned up.
01:46:21.000But I think it is also hard for us to realize sometimes the unseen help that we are getting
01:46:27.000uh... and uh... that you know the kind of diabolical plot that we don't even know about that have been derailed because that's it i mean this is another thing this is an important point uh... that again they can pass all this stuff all day they can say as i said last hour that black people aren't human beings again and that they're slaves but i expect blacks not to report uh... to the plowshare so again they can claim they're god jack mcclamb that doesn't make them god That's right.
01:46:57.000And I want to give the people a little encouragement out here.
01:47:01.000We do have more police and soldiers, especially on the email coming in to us, comments about that they're not going to do these things and force these things on the American people.
01:47:12.000And of course, same with soldiers that we're hearing from that are awakening today.
01:47:17.000So, you know, we need to be hopeful and get out and do the work.
01:47:23.000Got to get the work done, and we've got to inform people as fast as we can.
01:47:43.000I don't know if you've been listening to Air America or not, but I think that You should kind of try to hold hands with maybe like Randi Rhodes, because she really is on the right track, although she still thinks Bill Clinton is an angel, which I wish you could help her out with that.
01:47:58.000I think they're doing a good job, you know, getting out to people.
01:48:02.000I think, you know, maybe... You know, a lot of the left is waking up to the New World Order police state, but I bet they won't talk about how the majority of Democrats voted for this Patriot Act too, along with Lord Bush yesterday, and this national ID card.
01:48:18.000And I think that we have an awakening on the left.
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01:48:44.000Uh, the congressmen and senators and presidents and their staff that vote for a draft or a war, fund a war, or support it, will go immediately to the front lines on the battle zone in the boots on the ground, uh, you know, uh, soldiers right up front, not in the background at headquarters or not flying over in some beautiful jet plane or Apache helicopter, but right there on the front lines of the infantry.
01:49:12.000Yeah, I just wanted to mention that I just got an email about the March 20th, of course it's the second anniversary of the Iraq War, it's going to be a mass protest, Central Park, and I realize that they just passed this new legislation and it could be very dangerous to go, but I think it might be one of the last times we get to get out there And tell them that we're against it.
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01:53:11.000And Catherine Albrecht, who's fighting it.
01:53:14.000We'll try to get John and Glenn in here at the end with Jack McClam.
01:53:18.000Dr. Deagle's phone keeps breaking up, so I want to thank him for coming on, but he's gone now.
01:53:24.000Again, Patriot Act 2 and the National ID Card passed the House yesterday.
01:53:28.000The media acts like it's a foregone conclusion.
01:53:31.000The Senate, getting its job done protecting us, doesn't tell you what's in it.
01:53:35.000That's in the Senate right now, so try to at least get some media attention on this so people know what's happening.
01:53:41.000Perhaps in the next Congress we can try to have these provisions repealed once people know what's happening.
01:53:48.000John in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.
01:53:52.000I was wondering, they said that two towers fell because of all the aviation fuel burning in them.
01:53:58.000But Tower 7 didn't have any aviation fuel burning in it, and it fell.
01:54:03.000And if it fell just because it was on fire, how come all these other skyscrapers like in Chicago and South America aren't falling down all over the place?
01:54:09.000Yeah, they just had that big fire and the building didn't collapse.
01:54:12.000Look, Building 7 again wasn't hit by a plane.
01:55:45.000So, uh, I don't know if, uh, he, he, uh, we talked to our police and military association, talked to Congressman, uh, Blaine Evans' office this morning, and they said in Illinois, you can't have a gun even hanging on the wall like he had without a license for it.
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01:58:30.000We broke some major news there because that hadn't been in the U.S.
01:58:32.000newspapers and months later it all came out.
01:58:35.000Very interesting about implantable chips under the skin to get into the VIP area with all the lovely ladies and for the women all the handsome bartenders.
01:58:45.000You know, these are kind of those Upscale clubs and then a lot of TV shows like CSI Miami and others and oh everybody's getting the chip in Miami, you know the at the cool clubs and then Reality imitates art and art imitates reality Now we have a club in Florida that's doing this and we're honored to be joined by Kenneth Percy the owner of Amica loft and Club there in South Beach, Miami, I believe.
01:59:14.000And then we have the distributor for it, Mark Barsh, with Metro Risk.
01:59:20.000And I'm just incredibly honored to have these gentlemen on.
01:59:23.000I know they're very busy right now, getting a lot of attention.
01:59:25.000Good to have you on, Kenneth and Mark.
01:59:37.000Just first off, we're about to break, and then come back after the news.
01:59:40.000We have a lot of stations that join us, but just each of you tell us, first Kenneth and then Mark, tell us in a nutshell who you are and what you're up to.
01:59:48.000My name is Kenneth Percy, and I'm one of the owners of the Amica nightclub down in South Beach.
01:59:56.000And we're incredibly excited to have this new technology that's going to make the VIP issues practically go away.
02:00:37.000The Baja Beach, Spain was more of a trial.
02:00:40.000We went full-blown with the Club Amica due to the fact that before we even do anything in the United States, we wanted to try how it would work.
02:00:48.000Another place in Spain being a very hot place for nightclubs.
02:00:52.000We decided to proceed with Baja Beach everything went well, so now we hooked up with a hot as my club in South Beach, Miami, Amica and As far as my understanding goes everything is going well Gonna be able to tell you more about How the progress is going if it's only been about a week and But as far as my understanding goes... Well, I want one of these!
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02:06:28.000Kenneth, why did you decide to be the first club, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, in the U.S. to start the shipping centers for your VIPs?
02:06:39.000Well, it's an incredibly exciting opportunity to be on the cutting edge of technology.
02:06:44.000You have to understand, when a VIP comes to your club, he doesn't want to spend the time that others would spend online, getting out his credit card, proving who he is, giving up the financial information every single time he comes in.
02:06:58.000With this brand new chip, he's in and out a couple of minutes, we have all the information that we need, and he's treated like the VIP that he is.
02:07:10.000And then I was talking to Mark with Metro Risk, Mark Barsch.
02:07:17.000Mark, exactly what is your position in Metro Risk?
02:07:21.000I am the president and founder of Metro Risk.
02:07:24.000Tell us about Metro Risk and how you were a distributor for Applied Digital.
02:07:30.000Metro Risk, the risk control agency, I would say post 9-11 agency that specializes in mitigating loss and And all the problems that companies in, say, Latin America may encounter, such as kidnapping of executives, we specialize in the negotiation of the release factor and things of that nature.
02:07:54.000The Verichip was a natural... Excuse me?
02:07:57.000The Verichip was a natural... evolved into the product because of what its security ramifications are.
02:08:04.000Due to the fact that it can not only be used for security, but as well as finance and Many other applications, it just happened to be bigger than what we originally had expected it to be.
02:08:16.000Where we originally got involved in security, now we're dealing with the hottest nightclub in Miami, Amica.
02:08:23.000Tomorrow we're dealing with government agencies in Latin America to be able to implement it in their security structure.
02:08:30.000Now let me bring this up here because during the break I had a chance to talk to both of you gentlemen and I brought the question or the comment, are you aware that The Attorney General said to some of his employees, you know, you need to take this ship to get into secure areas in Mexico.
02:08:44.000And you said you were aware of that, Mark.
02:08:46.000That was in the security area, though, and that you were going to be involved in Latin America.
02:09:21.000What areas of the country are the Verichip chipmobiles active?
02:09:26.000And then how many clinic chipping centers, as you call them, how many chipping centers and how many chipmobiles?
02:09:34.000Well, chipmobiles, keep in mind, a chipmobile right now was an effort from Applied Digital to be able to have a mobile shipping center.
02:09:43.000As far as my understanding, that is an Applied Digital asset.
02:09:48.000My understanding, I think they only have one.
02:09:50.000But I couldn't say that they have throughout the United States.
02:09:53.000And the United States... They reported that they had shipping centers already in different areas of the country.
02:09:58.000Yes, we're already negotiating with different hospitals throughout the country.
02:10:01.000We have a business model of My understanding of donating close to about 200 scanners through emergency rooms throughout the country.
02:10:09.000We've only had FDA approval for medical purposes, I would say, the last 30 days.
02:10:14.000Yeah, the FDA a few months ago approved it.
02:10:17.000So we're moving cautiously, taking one step at a time, building this, because for medical applications it's a lot different than, for example, financial or nightclubs.
02:10:27.000So we're already talking, we're already implementing the technology throughout the country at Ashley Hospital.
02:10:31.000Clinics would be our second approach on it.
02:10:35.000Right now the only way we're proceeding is with hospitals.
02:10:37.000I couldn't give you the exact number, but I can tell you that The fastest moving states would be Florida, New York, and California.
02:10:45.000I have a cousin who's in Special Forces.
02:10:47.000He's an officer, been in 18 years, now 19 years, and he told me that they were told two years ago that they were all going to be getting chips soon, and then I've also confirmed from sources that in a covert operation, already a lot of the Special Forces have gotten chips.
02:11:49.000They're actually manufactured in FDA approved facilities and I believe there's a manufacturer, I believe it's Ryden, which is in Spain.
02:11:59.000Okay, because in a Apply Digital press release a year ago, and we have this on our website, they said they were building a plant in Beijing.
02:12:38.000Well, actually, we were approached by Mark and he said, listen, he's got an agency and he'd love to put it in our club.
02:12:46.000And after we spoke to him about it, it's a natural fit.
02:12:50.000I mean, it cuts down your transaction time, cuts down on the fraud, That's down on the usual rigmarole that's associated with getting into a club that has three to four hundred people waiting to get in on the outside.
02:13:02.000Did you know that with CSI Miami a month or so ago, they even had an episode where in Miami there's a nightclub where you get chips?
02:13:11.000Wow, it's, it's, man, it's like, I don't think I've ever seen this much news coverage on something.
02:13:16.000Maybe on Arnold for President or something we've seen this much promotion, but it's just, it's just all over the place, so... It's a self-promoting product.
02:13:25.000Yeah, when is the chipping going to start?
02:13:29.000I understand we actually have people in line already today to get chipped.
02:15:13.000You don't even have to carry your wallet anymore.
02:15:16.000If you have this technology in your arm, if you have this chip in your arm, breathe right in, never worry about losing your credit cards, your wallet, having anything stolen.
02:15:25.000What about people who say that, you know, this is Big Brother, or people who say this is the mark of the beast?
02:15:31.000Don't forget, the information contained, or associated with the bearer chip, is only that that you provide.
02:15:38.000But then that number, when the government uses it, is connected to the database.
02:15:43.000Well, I mean, any number, a driver's license number, a social security number, a chip number, can be then connected to any level of database.
02:15:50.000It's no different than what exists now.
02:15:51.000It's just a new form of the technology and associated information.
02:15:58.000Well, that's... people are pretty excited about it.
02:16:03.000Now, going back to Mark, Mark, the head of Metro Risk, What type of industry growth are you guys looking at here with this?
02:16:28.000Did you see the Reuters article a couple years ago when they were going to do a contract with the Bureau of Prisons in California for parolees, but for some reason that fell through.
02:17:10.000It's not meant to be forced upon anybody.
02:17:13.000But the uses of the device go, for example, you're walking down the street, you have your credit card, you can leave your house with just your, a female can just leave her house with her lipstick, just to look beautiful.
02:17:23.000She doesn't have to worry about a credit card.
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02:22:31.000Alright, and then what about for Metro Risk?
02:22:35.000Metro Risk would be www.metrorisk.com.
02:22:41.000Okay, gentlemen, I've got a lady coming on right now, and with our phone problems today, we'll see how this works.
02:22:47.000She's Catherine Albrecht, she's with Caspian, expert there at Harvard right now, on the cards, on the chips, on the RFID, and she's got a couple questions for you on this subject.
02:23:01.000Catherine Albrecht, you're on the air, of course, from nocards.org with our two guests who've been kind enough to come on with us.
02:23:10.000You've got questions for them, they've got answers.
02:23:12.000Go ahead. - Hey Alex, hi Kenneth, hi Mark.
02:23:15.000Quick question actually for both of you.
02:23:18.000I'm wondering what sort of waiver forms you've been given by the folks that apply digital solutions that have to be signed by people who are about to be chipped, I guess this evening. - I haven't given any forms. - Is that Kenneth answering there?
02:23:32.000Okay, so now do they come out and do the chipping themselves?
02:23:35.000So you're just providing the facilities and then the Applied Digital folks do the chipping?
02:23:40.000Actually, I'm basically providing an outlet for people to know about it and to use it in a real setting.
02:23:48.000And are they actually sending out a clinician or someone in a white lab coat to do the chipping right there in front of your crowd tonight?
02:23:56.000I don't think it would be in front of the crowd.
02:23:57.000If anything, it would have to be in the chipmobile.
02:24:00.000Okay, because I know in some of the photographs that I've seen from the Baja Beach Clubs both in Spain and of course in the Netherlands, it looks like it's kind of a sort of a big ringside show there with everybody getting chipped in front of the crowd.
02:24:13.000So, yeah, and then the question, let me direct that to you, Mark.
02:24:18.000Are you familiar with any kind of waiver or form that has to be signed before people take the chip?
02:24:59.000And then the other piece was just in terms of some of the medical risks associated with taking this device, which according to the FDA, when they approved this device on October 12th, those risks included, for example, an incompatibility with an MRI or a magnetic resonance imaging machine.
02:25:15.000At the time, we're considering a non- Uh, but it's not meant to be used for somebody who at the moment is going to be getting an MRI.
02:25:28.000Okay, so I guess these folks who are getting these implants may actually have to wear medical alert bracelets of some sort.
02:25:35.000Tell them what the FDA says happens when you have one of these in you and you go under a magnetic resonance machine.
02:25:41.000Well, we actually found a letter from the FDA to the folks at Applied Digital and Digital Angel about this device and essentially they had a whole host of health problems.
02:25:50.000One of them, people don't realize an MRI machine is a very powerful magnet and it also creates a very powerful radio frequency field.
02:25:57.000So for both of those reasons this is incompatible because The Verichip has a ferrous or an iron-based core.
02:26:04.000And if you go inside of an MRI machine, there's some speculation that the MRI may actually suck the device right out of the patient, or out of, I guess it would be a patient inside of an MRI machine.
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02:30:59.000And then back in 2000, even having it on their main website and linking to army.mil, and people still couldn't believe it.
02:31:05.000And my cousin two years ago told me they'd all been told that within the next few years, and now we've reached that point, they'd be getting chips.
02:31:12.000And after 9-11, the wall-to-wall promotion, the family in Florida getting the chips, and Now in Mexico, and we're just talking to Mark Barsh of Metro Risk, just one of the companies globally out distributing.
02:31:26.000He's talking to all these Latin American countries about going with this.
02:31:30.000They've had Brazilian politicians take the chip, even before Mexican ones did it.
02:31:35.000There's talk in Italy about this happening.
02:31:39.000Meanwhile, we have Arnold Schwarzenegger and all these other governors promoting satellite trackers or transponders in the cars to track us everywhere we go.
02:31:47.000There's a proliferation of this, and we talked to Kenneth Percy, one of the owners of Amica Club there in Miami, and he's like, yeah, I see a time when you'll need this to get into the club, period.
02:31:59.000That's what the other club manager said from Spain.
02:32:04.000And so we see where all of this is trending and going.
02:32:07.000I mean, if somebody wants to go stick one of these in themselves, A biometric face scanner thumbprint does the same thing.
02:32:14.000That's their business, and I see those as just as dangerous.
02:32:18.000But just this pell-mell push by the media, all positive about it, but in major polls, 90 plus percent of people are firmly against it.
02:32:27.000Gentlemen, do you have any comments to what I just said?
02:33:11.000Don't forget, we're in the entertainment industry.
02:33:14.000And actually, it's a pure benefit for your VIP clientele who don't feel like carrying around a wallet or their credit cards or any ID for that matter.
02:33:24.000Yeah, but they go in and the scanner's got to come over and scan them and check it like you're a toaster on the shelf at Walmart with an RFID sticker on it.
02:34:17.000But I can pull up 100 stories that said 300 and even higher.
02:34:22.000Yeah, in fact, USA Today, the Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, all of the major media got it wrong, including myself.
02:34:30.000But we issued a press release a few months back and just parroted the number we've been given, which was 160.
02:34:35.000And the AP and others said they got that from Applied Digital.
02:34:38.000Applied Digital also, a couple years ago, I had their CEO, I had their Chief Scientist on four years ago, they said that they had all these hospitals taking it.
02:34:47.000But where are the hospitals with the readers?
02:34:50.000They called the hospitals, one of the Miami Papers, didn't they?
02:34:54.000They said, we don't have those readers.
02:34:56.000They got sued in a class action suit by their investors for that, by the way, Alex.
02:35:00.000And in fact, they had to settle to the tune of millions of dollars because they were Not at all.
02:35:05.000misrepresenting their marketing. - Now I know we've got a distributor and a club owner doing this.
02:35:33.000I'm just saying, we all saw the news, 150, 300, 1,000 got the chip, and this information, you know, is coming from quarters that, again, all these hospitals had it.
02:35:45.000Well, if you ask me, you have to take into consideration several factors.
02:35:49.000For example, let's take the comments from the Attorney General in Mexico.
02:35:53.000At one point in time, I was only impressed that it was 160 also.
02:35:55.000Yeah, there were quotes by him, so why is he doing that?
02:35:59.000My understanding is that it was a project meant to chip 160.
02:36:02.000Again, this is what my understanding goes.
02:36:05.000The amount of people at the time right now is only 18, and she's absolutely correct.
02:36:10.000But they were on the news going, you don't get in the building in the secure area unless you have this.
02:36:15.000With people going, well, I guess I'll do it then.
02:36:20.000That wasn't the only exaggeration at the point.
02:36:22.000At the point, as a matter of fact, you guys are even forgetting that the gentleman not only said that you need the chip to get into the place, but you could also track them through GPS, which is absolutely not true.
02:36:33.000Well, they could with a high-powered reader boosting the satellite at ground-based level.
02:36:58.000It's not that they're just coming out with something that's been out, but if you ask me, in reference to the exaggerations out there with numbers, let it be how many hospitals at the time, I can only tell you the numbers in which Metro Risk has been involved.
02:37:14.000I can only tell you the different projects... Okay, how many people has Metro Risk chipped?
02:37:20.000Right now, as a matter of fact, in the United States, we haven't shipped anybody.
02:37:41.000Well, I've been at this for about a year and a half.
02:37:43.000And the only thing is that in the United States, because of its society and because of the all potential lawsuits, we have to proceed with certain caution.
02:37:54.000Amica being the top nightclub, we have to proceed with certain caution.
02:37:58.000For example, we're not going to get anybody tripped in the bathroom or in such a circus way like they did in Baja Beach in Spain, even though it was a project that we undertook.
02:38:08.000We have no control of what was happening at the hospital.
02:38:10.000The reason why we had to take it with amicus is because it could be done much better and in the proper way.
02:38:15.000Okay, Mark, any comments from Kenneth?
02:38:17.000Do you want to say anything here, or Catherine?
02:38:20.000I mean, this is still a quasi-medical procedure, and it's still voluntary, and it's done from the nightlife point of view, purely as an added value to make your experience easier.
02:38:34.000Yeah, what it is, is you've got the trendies, They don't know their head from a hole in the ground.
02:39:23.000Go ahead and make your point, Catherine.
02:39:26.000Sure, this is from the FDA letter that was issued on October 12th, the same day that they gave the approval of this device for medical purposes.
02:39:34.000It says the potential risks to health associated with the device are adverse tissue reaction, migration of implanted transponder, compromised information security, failure of implanted transponder, failure of inserter, failure of electronic scanner, electromagnetic interference, electrical hazards, Yeah, and the groups know where these chips are going, the two implant areas.
02:39:56.000What's to stop a kidnapper from grabbing it out and using it?
02:40:11.000Yeah, but that has nothing to do with going to a nice club in Miami Beach.
02:40:15.000Yeah, but as this proliferates, what you... I mean, Mark, you were saying for kidnappings and security issues in Latin America, where it's obviously a real threat.
02:40:25.000That's the problem with thumbs... Let me stop you.
02:40:27.000That's the problem with the thumb scanner.
02:40:28.000They just cut somebody's thumb off, they got it.
02:40:31.000Yeah, we can see... We've had security experts look at all this biometrics and stuff.
02:40:46.000The code just doesn't do anything unless you have access to the database.
02:40:51.000Kathryn, you got any comments to this?
02:40:54.000You were telling me during our break that Apply Digital, I haven't seen this but I'm sure you have if you're saying it, that Apply Digital is claiming that you can't extract this and use it.
02:41:04.000I've done several radio interviews with Applied Digital and television interviews as well, but one of the things that they've said is that, oh, well, don't worry.
02:41:11.000If it's removed from the person's body, it will no longer function.
02:41:15.000Mark, do you have any comments to that?
02:41:18.000The chip is, of course, it's obvious it's going to function, because I mean, by removing it from the body, it doesn't necessarily mean that the device is disabled.
02:41:27.000This is the executive at Applied Digital saying that.
02:41:31.000Perhaps what they mean is, and then again, in my experience with the media is, one, there's always two ways to look at things.
02:41:38.000Yes, somebody gets extracted, the chip gets extracted from somebody's arm.
02:41:42.000What happens is it also gets deactivated from the database.
02:41:45.000So, yes, by simple... If the person tells them.
02:41:51.000Say you get it removed without applied digital knowing, then we got a grant that a possibility of something happening for the simple fact that... Well, the kidnappers aren't going to call up and go, hey, I took the chip out of her arm.
02:42:05.000Well, the other thing that's interesting, I got an email from a gentleman in Scandinavia, who is an engineer who works for one of their big telephone companies up there, an electrical engineer, and he said, you know, these folks at Applied Digital are really snowing you.
02:42:21.000He said, I could take a handheld reader device, capture the number off of any VeriChip implant, and within a period of a day, I could have an army of that identical number available to chip and implant into other people.
02:42:46.000I mean, the resident's code number can be scanned in red and then duplicated in the tiny transceiver.
02:42:52.000These chips are programmable, so why couldn't I do that?
02:42:55.000One thing is... Let me just explain something.
02:42:58.000You guys are looking at the chip as the problem, but the chip is just one factor.
02:43:02.000And a group of... as part of a security system, per se.
02:43:06.000For example, the chip inside a person just merely identifies that person with a number, but it doesn't have any medical or any credit card information on the chip.
02:43:14.000But that's what the company's saying they want to develop it into!
02:43:23.000If I want to go into Kenneth's nightclub and charge up a bunch of liquor, all I would have to do would be scan one of his chipped patrons, duplicate one of their chips, put it in my own arm, and I could go in and run up that person's bar tab.
02:43:35.000Yeah, you still have to sign, with all due respect, you still have to sign a tab and a bill.
02:43:46.000Why can't I just swipe my debit card, bang my pin there, it's got my picture on it, and all this chipping makes all the other Big Brother stuff look okay.
02:43:56.000Face scanning, thumb scanning, ID cards.
02:43:58.000Catherine, isn't that what this is really all about?
02:44:00.000Why the media and the government keeps pushing it?
02:44:03.000I will say that there's a lot of people with a lot of interest in being able to track people all the time and this would certainly be one way to do it.
02:44:09.000We can track it already as it is right now.
02:44:11.000Yeah, but just because we can track, that's what I'm saying.
02:44:22.000The chip has to be a proximity device.
02:44:25.000in order for it to work exactly I'm not a problem we got a problem we're two tracked we're big brother land that is getting worse well yeah the main thing I want to get to the bottom of here and since we've got Kenneth on the whole phone and he's been kind enough to talk to us about this is really are you concerned that some of one of your patrons might wind up down the road needing an MRI and being unable to get one because they have this device in their flesh It'd be no different than somebody having an artificial hip or an artificial knee.
02:44:57.000What if they're in a big car wreck, and then they go in, they're doing an MRI, and they don't know that chip's in there?
02:45:03.000With all due respect... Well, if it isn't a problem, Kenneth, why'd the FDA say it was a problem?
02:45:08.000I can't comment on why the FDA would say anything.
02:45:10.000Again, it's no different than having any other kind of medical device implanted in you.
02:45:14.000But you're not implanting people as a medical device, you're implanting it in them as a way to pay for their drink.
02:45:20.000Actually, without implanting anything, what we are doing is giving people the avenue of using that chip in a different kind of way.
02:45:28.000But an artificial hip I might need in order to walk, a chip, I could just as easily scan my credit card.
02:45:34.000I guess the real question is are people aware of the risk that they're running and are people at age 21 or 22 really thinking long-term about their need for future medical care and are they really thinking long-term about whether this is going to be incompatible with an MRI and then how are they going to get the darn thing out again when they need that MRI down the road?
02:47:06.000The only thing I've been able to find about having a chip removed, and I'd love to find information about that if that's been published in any journals or anywhere that regular folks can find out about how difficult it is to remove it, but I do have a document here about chipping racehorses.
02:47:21.000And of course we all know that the Verichip is essentially an animal chip that's being used for human purposes.
02:47:26.000It's the same one they put in pets and dogs and racehorses.
02:47:29.000And while they were able to inject it into the horses in the field, just standing out there, to remove it actually required a team of veterinary surgeons and a full veterinary theater.
02:47:37.000And they put the horse under full anesthesia and even then had difficulty locating the chip.
02:47:47.000You need a large team when you can just simply locate it with I worked for a high-level vet who did artificial dissemination, embryo flushes, implantation, I mean in a laboratory when I was a teenager.
02:47:56.000Well, this thing had actually migrated, so.
02:48:00.000I worked for a high-level vet who did artificial insemination, embryo flushes, implantation, I mean in a laboratory, okay, when I was a teenager.
02:48:11.000And let me just tell you, the chips back then, this is, you know, this is 15 years ago, the chips back then, they would read them before they put them in, and when they put them in that animal, there was never, you know, the idea that they'd be able to get that chip out.
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02:51:59.000They're just going to talk about ships and how great they are and push them in sitcoms and dramas and the news and at nightclubs until you just get sick of hearing about it and accept it.
02:52:31.00090-plus percent of people are against it, but they don't care, they're going to keep pushing it, just like Arnold for president.
02:52:38.000And so we've got to keep fighting against it.
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02:54:25.000Tell us what you thought of that insane interview.
02:54:29.000I'd be happy to stay on with you and your listeners, Alex.
02:54:32.000Our website, spychips.com, S-P-Y-C-H-I-P-S.com, you'll see the latest bear chip information, including our world-exclusive breaking story on the fact that only 18 people in Mexico were chipped, instead of the 160 widely reported... I saw articles that said 1,100!
02:54:51.000Well, you know, I've been to 1,100 around the world.
02:54:55.000You know, the real bottom line here is that these companies have a long history of lying to the public, lying to their investors.
02:55:02.000If they got sued and lost over lying about the hospitals, why are they doing it again?
02:55:06.000Well, and they're blaming their Mexican affiliate, their Mexican distributor.
02:55:10.000They're saying they had nothing to do with it.
02:55:11.000What I think is interesting, though, is you can go on our website at spychips.com.
02:55:15.000You can click up this article, which is featured right on the very front page there.
02:55:19.000And if you scroll down to the bottom, you can actually see a link to their website where they continue to carry articles from Businessweek and other publications boasting about the $160.
02:55:29.000Of course, that information is there to impress investors so that they can get even more money flowing into their coffers.
02:55:35.000Last time I checked, though, their stock wasn't doing too well.
02:55:38.000Their stock actually took a huge bounce.
02:55:40.000It went way up after the FDA announcement and of course after they were featured on a number of nationwide television programs that were positive.
02:55:47.000I remember last time a few years ago, though, when they did the public chipping of that family, it plunged, but I guess now it's going back up.
02:55:54.000Yeah, I believe it went up 60% after the FDA approval.
02:56:05.000Well, they did what's called a reverse stock split, where 10 shares of stock turned into a single share of stock in order to keep it from being sort of the pathetic $0.35 stock.