In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Jones talks about the growing problem of hate crimes in America and across the globe, and the tactics being used to silence and censor those who speak out against them. He is joined by Michael Markavich of Repent America, who is facing up to 47 years in prison for his role in a protest at Outfest.
00:01:03.000Christians face 47 years in prison for reading Bible praying on street.
00:01:11.000It's not just France or England that are passing laws like this.
00:01:15.000You read passages criticizing the gay movement, the homosexuals.
00:01:21.000In many cases now you get arrested, but before they just let you out of jail for a nuisance arrest, now they're charging you.
00:01:30.000Now for the left out there, the so-called left, there really is no left or right, there's only freedom and slavery depending on what end of the spectrum you desire.
00:01:41.000People that wear shirts that say peace on earth get arrested.
00:01:44.000Folks that go and protest with a sign saying no blood for oil and amongst 500 Bush supporters on a public sidewalk, they get arrested, charged with felonies, convicted.
00:01:59.000And I'm disgusted by what happens to them.
00:02:02.000But the left, a lot of the so-called left, loves it when Christian conservatives who go out and voice their free speech are arrested and charged with very serious crimes.
00:02:19.000So, you ought to be ashamed of yourself, you so-called left out there.
00:02:23.000It's been the libertarians, it's been the bedrock grassroots conservatives that have been defending your free speech rights.
00:02:34.000But a lot of the left out there doesn't care about conservatives' rights.
00:02:38.000Well, if you don't care about somebody else's rights, you're not going to have any rights when it comes time.
00:02:50.000So, coming up in the second hour, we'll be talking to Michael Markavich, of Repent America who is facing up to 47 years in jail for protesting at Outfest.
00:03:07.000So that is coming up and it is very scary.
00:03:11.000And all over the country the gay and lesbian movement is trying to silence and censor people that are critical of it.
00:03:32.000Two years ago, I interviewed one of the top BBC reporters who went to a rural affairs public meeting and got up and said, rural communities deserve the same rights as homosexuals and Muslims.
00:03:53.000And Scotland Yard diversity unit, hate crimes unit, went out and arrested him.
00:03:59.000This was in the BBC and London Telegraph.
00:04:02.000In fact, I want to instruct my webmaster, Paul Watson, at PrisonPlanet.com, why don't we grab that old audio interview and that text report, I know it's in the old audio archive, and post it under this current story, just to give people an idea of what we're facing.
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00:08:33.0001-800-2599-231 1-800-2599-231 time names president george w bush 2004 person of the year they have a twenty issue that's coming out listing uh... soldiers as person of the year So then if you're against Bush being person of the year, why you must be against the soldiers too.
00:08:59.000Now Time Magazine has a long history of this.
00:09:01.000They made Adolf Hitler person of the year back in the 1930s.
00:09:08.000And I would give Bush a puppet of the year.
00:09:12.000I think that would be a really good term for President Bush.
00:09:19.000By the way, I mean, I'm so sick of hearing about Hillary Clinton and tired of hearing about the evil Democrats all day long.
00:09:27.000Yes, we know the Democrats are bought and paid for by the New World Order and their corporate interests.
00:09:31.000We know that the Democrats are bad news.
00:09:34.000And we know they're carrying out the exact same agenda as George W. Bush.
00:09:39.000I mean, when George W. Bush wants women in frontline combat, the conservatives hail it as conservative.
00:09:46.000When George W. Bush wants to appoint somebody to be the Attorney General who's pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-open border, it's hailed as conservative!
00:09:55.000I mean, can you imagine if Bill Clinton was doing all this?
00:09:59.000And every day I look at the so-called conservative websites and it's, Hillary's doing this, Bill Clinton's doing that.
00:10:04.000Yes, and George Bush is protecting them!
00:10:07.000George Bush is blocking them from prosecution from Congress!
00:11:29.000Good news, obviously, and I think your prayers helped early in the day Friday, last week.
00:11:34.000I know I certainly prayed that the baby be found.
00:11:39.000And, uh, it was obviously in Missouri or Kansas or Oklahoma, somewhere nearby.
00:11:42.000It was found at a farmhouse in Kansas.
00:11:46.000Slang suspect allegedly showed off the baby, going around saying, this is my baby.
00:11:53.000She was one of these women with, you know, dozens of small dogs that she dressed up that were her baby, and obviously a complete and total lunatic.
00:12:47.000But this should bring to mind, in this country, Bush did not ban it, by the way.
00:12:50.000It's been overturned by the courts and it had loopholes in it that were gigantic.
00:12:57.000The partial birth abortion goes on by the tens of thousands every year in this country, and the baby could be born and adopted.
00:13:05.000They will kill babies up to the week of birth in this nation.
00:13:12.000And Bush has the legislative, the executive, and the judicial right now, the Supreme Court, But you don't see the so-called conservative court going, yes, we agree the partial birth abortion ban stands.
00:13:24.000Contrary to that, you see them not hearing the case.
00:13:32.000But that doesn't matter because in symbol only we're told we have this big conservative victory with this Supreme Court.
00:13:40.000But imagine the father, I mean, he did lose his wife, but thank God And he is thankful to God, he said, and the police and the public for keeping their eyes peeled.
00:13:51.000This psychopathic woman had the police surround her and get the baby back on Friday afternoon, Friday night.
00:14:05.000And the father was united with the baby on Saturday at the hospital.
00:14:12.000Oh boy, I just What in the world is going on in this country where we're now seeing a increased occurrence of these type of events?
00:14:26.000Talking about losing your First Amendment, protesters fear lack of access to inaugural parade.
00:14:34.000The Park Service, months ago, the group had gotten together and so we want to protest here on the triumphant Caesar crossing the Rubicon, coming back into Rome, back into D.C., Lord Bush, Man of the Year, and now they're told, oops, sorry, we've given that protest space to another group.
00:14:52.000You can protest five miles away, where no one can see you.
00:14:56.000The Park Service has given the Presidential Inaugural Committee clearance to erect bleachers along parts of Pennsylvania Avenue for an anti-war campaign and requested permits to stage a large-scale protest during President Bush's parade.
00:15:10.000And the Answer Coalition had applied for permits to assemble, and in some cases, build bleachers along parts of the historic street that stretches from the Capitol to the White House.
00:15:20.000The National Park Service has not acted on the Coalition's permit request, even though they put theirs in before this other pro-Bush group that's been given the area.
00:15:30.000But angry officials from the coalition argued yesterday that permitting the inaugural committee to build bleachers in several open spaces, such as Freedom Plaza, across from the White House and in front of the FBI headquarters and Justice Department, prohibits the coalition from gathering in such areas to stage their large demonstrations.
00:15:47.000The goal from the beginning was equal access to Pennsylvania Avenue, Mara-Vara-Hayden Hillard, representative of the Partnership for Civil Justice, which is working on behalf of ANSWER, said in a news conference, we can't have what the inaugural committee gets.
00:16:04.000They've issued a permit to another group for the same space we originally asked for.
00:16:11.000They're telling them, we may not give you a permit to protest anywhere.
00:16:15.000By the way, you don't need permits to protest on sidewalks.
00:16:18.000Federal and state courts have ruled this over and over again.
00:16:22.000Permitting started for official parades and things if you wanted to take over streets.
00:17:02.000A radio station I work for sent one of the interns down with a sign that says I love Bush next to people being arrested and they left her alone and were shaking her hand, the state police, and along with the APD And that was helpful in the court case.
00:17:21.000Of course, that was in the Dallas Morning News.
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00:24:29.000It's like North Korea or something with Kim Jong-il, where he goes and gives a speech and there's a giant picture of him behind the... I mean, this is not the American tradition.
00:24:38.000This is right out of Russia, right out of China, right out of East Germany, or Nazi Germany, or North Korea, or Havana, Cuba.
00:24:49.000And he said, I pioneered action films.
00:26:11.000I just kind of called early because I had a fair bit to unload about the rare interest yesterday listening to the reality hemorrhage on Sunday morning's Talking Heads, only in respect to them pointing out how both the Iraq war and election are crashing down all around the administration.
00:26:28.000Now remember, these are only stock establishment war-supporting sources.
00:26:34.000So I'm going to revert to the inadequate conventional paradigm here.
00:26:38.000But to hear them finally comment, as one moderator put it, how many Republican congressmen are finally expressing the angst which they had been suppressing prior to the election.
00:26:47.000To hear about how the Bush-Rumsfeld Chinese lean and mean of warfare with less than 150,000 troops was a big, fat, unworkable lie.
00:26:59.000Don't think that Lott and McCain and all these people are going public because they are really angry at Bush.
00:27:07.000This is all staged to get massive increases in funding and this is nothing but political theater to kind of sab the country because they know the general public is against what the administration is doing and what you're saying is true.
00:27:22.000The Associated Press admits our troops are basically in full retreat, being slaughtered.
00:27:27.000The Iraqis are dropping everything and running.
00:27:30.000The Iraqis, the Republican Guard, turned National Guard, National Defense Force, and Bush had to admit it this morning.
00:27:38.000And things are in a shambles and imploding over there, but that was meant to happen before the UN goes in as the savior and the good cop.
00:27:48.000Now, of course, they didn't call it a lie, of course.
00:27:50.000That's just an inescapable conclusion about this leaning force.
00:27:55.000And then to hear William Kristol, too, I guess, what do you call it, the last holdout to join the chorus, dumping on Rumsfeld as being incompetent, that's the biggest laugh of all.
00:28:03.000As one commentator put it, Kristol is just looking for an escape hatch for himself.
00:28:09.000What he didn't quite say, but anybody knows anything, knows means and part of that crystal is, of course, a primary flak or neocon in this end of the war.
00:28:20.000He was the head of the Communist Fourth International.
00:28:24.000By the way, folks, that is AP, that is Toronto Star, that is Washington Post.
00:28:31.000Yeah, and of course, Crystal's only been tweakingly critical of his and the Bush-Rumsfeld war until now.
00:28:38.000And more to the point, also, I mentioned today's war status being, having been totally predictable one and two years ago, the only mystery being to explain how today's war status could have turned out any better.
00:28:49.000And then they quote John Warner, Will the war be successful?
00:28:54.000Well, I think it will, but the challenges are mounting.
00:28:57.000Well, look, a lot of this is, again, this is part of the complex dialectic, Roger, and they know exactly what they're doing.
00:29:07.000This way they can just, later in a few months, remove Rumsfeld and then, oh, it was all his fault, now we've got a new start.
00:29:15.000This is all part of the theater, like the Israeli-Palestinian affair, where every year, oh, this year we're going to fix it, and then next year we're going to fix it.
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00:33:21.000We're going to go to your calls here in just a moment.
00:33:25.000And then we'll get into what Roger was just mentioning.
00:33:29.000Leading senators Hesitant to replace Rumsfeld despite mistakes in Iraq, you know, why do you think all of a sudden it comes out that Rumsfeld has a printer stamp his name on letters to people's front doors about their dead family?
00:33:50.000Why do you think it's coming out now about no real armor on a lot of the vehicles?
00:33:56.000It's coming out now because the establishment has chosen to bring it out now.
00:34:01.000They haven't chosen to bring out depleted uranium because they intend to continue that.
00:34:07.000Which is a much greater threat than not having proper armor long term to the troops.
00:34:14.000From the DU, the deadly black dust they've already breathed into their lungs.
00:34:20.000So again, we'll talk more about what's really behind that.
00:34:37.000And he had made a comment, actually sort of a prediction, and said that he had sources that said that a draft is going to be upcoming in March.
00:34:46.000Well, they've introduced twelve different pieces of legislation, and they've set up the draft boards again, and they've admitted they may do special technical skills drafts.
00:34:56.000That's been in the Houston Chronicle and other publications.
00:34:59.000So, it's not a rumor that they need a draft, that they've geared up for one, but I think that will come after a terrorist attack engineered by the military-industrial complex.
00:35:11.000Yeah, that's what I was wondering as well.
00:35:13.000To have an absolute all-out draft, and for Bush to cover himself, that, oh, we need this draft now, he needs a convenient attack to justify it.
00:35:23.000Would you agree that, I guess, February or March might be the gold date for this to happen, in order for them to legitimize the draft, even though he publicly said in his staged debate that, oh, there's not going to be a draft.
00:35:38.000Well, again, I'm not going to sit here and make predictions.
00:35:41.000I certainly think we're going to see more terror attacks in this country in the future.
00:35:48.000And I pretty much know who's going to be behind those attacks, and that's criminal elements of this government, who have all the motives for it, and who we have their official battle plans to carry out terror attacks, Operation Northwoods and PNAC and others.
00:36:03.000But clearly, they've got an agenda to get this done.
00:36:14.000I was just wondering if you, you know, might agree with that, but I know we can't really, you know... Yeah, you know, I personally... I personally...
00:36:26.000I mean I've always said that I think after the election in the first of the year was going to be a much more dangerous time than before the election.
00:36:34.000I thought that clearly all the reports of there was going to be an attack the White House said, the Capitol will be attacked.
00:37:03.000Like, oh, people criticized Bush for the war, but now a new attack took place and tens of thousands are dead and we've all just got to get behind the leader.
00:37:13.000Speaking of spear-mongering, I also wanted to mention real quick that on January 2nd, they're going to run this movie on FX.
00:37:20.000I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's Smallpox.
00:38:18.000But then Ted Koppel and generals and all these people would have simulations of a smallpox attack and they would show video of our troops in Florida or our troops
00:38:32.000In other areas where there have been hurricanes and disasters, arresting people and checkpoints, and they would show that and superimpose it over New York, and announce, you know, martial laws were declared, hundreds of thousands dying, and they did this whole drill!
00:38:49.000And then they would, at the end, say, this has been a drill, it'll be back on tomorrow night with the next phase of the five-day outbreak.
00:38:56.000And what it means, and they would announce that this is probably going to happen on a question of if but when.
00:39:05.000Probably going to happen on a question of if but when.
00:39:08.000And then, earlier this year, oh, we're going to be attacked by terrorists.
00:39:12.000It's going to happen before the election, or on the day of the election.
00:39:16.000And then the White House will come back out and say, no, no, no, it's probably going to happen, but if you pass this legislation, it'll probably keep you safe.
00:39:26.000And by its very definition, that is terrorism.
00:39:31.000By its very definition, that is terrorism.
00:39:48.000I mean, the old definition of terrorism, you can go get it in a dictionary that's over ten years old, They started changing it, like they're changing most of the other words now, a few years ago, but to paraphrase it, it is to carry out a violent action or threaten a violent action against a group or individuals to try to force them to acquiesce to your political demands.
00:40:11.000And so what is it when the government's going?
00:40:13.000Give up your rights, take a national ID card, let us take your freedoms away, give up your liberty for security, or the terrorists are going to kill you.
00:40:21.000And by the way, these men in black helmets with machine guns and black ski masks, they're the good guys.
00:40:32.000But you show children a picture of the police in the newspaper.
00:40:36.000I've got a big Time Life book from after 93, after the first World Trade Center bombing.
00:40:42.000And it shows these FBI agents in front of the World Trade Centers dressed like ringwraiths.
00:40:47.000Black helmets, black masks, black everything.
00:41:27.000I was just going to ask a few questions here.
00:41:29.000One, I'm visually impaired, actually legally blind, and I have been visiting your websites, and it seems that prisonplanet.tv has a few accessibility issues.
00:41:39.000I can get to most of the stuff, but there seems to be some links to images that just need a simple alt tag inserted so that the screen reader will recognize it.
00:41:51.000On another note, I was wondering What country do you plan to move your family to in the event that things get really bad?
00:42:01.000I feel like I'm looking at Sodom and Gomorrah under a magnifying glass whenever I look at the way things are going in this nation.
00:42:09.000I can't talk about the way things are going with my family without being branded an ultra right-wing conspiracy theorist and a fool.
00:42:17.000And they must be leftward then, because if they were right-wingers, you'd be a commie.
00:42:22.000And again, this just shows how their paradigm of politics is so false and scrambled.
00:42:28.000Well, look, I mean, I have discussed on air that if stuff really keeps getting bad, I might move my family out of this country.
00:42:47.000Well, yeah, I'm 19 and I was just thinking that I'd like to have fears in which I could use to build up myself financially and to get more of the resources needed to defend my family and, you know, to really make an impact on the way things are going.
00:43:01.000And I'm actually thinking about a career in writing.
00:43:04.000And I was wondering either how long it took you to write your book or how long you think it might take the average author to write a 300-page book if they work for, you know, if he or she worked for about, oh, eight hours a day.
00:43:20.000To go back to your first comment, there's a lot we'd like to do with the websites to improve them, but I've got three full-time webmasters and another part-time webmaster, and I pay these individuals, and I don't pay them a lot, but you put four people together, that is a lot of money, and then I also We're trying our best.
00:43:46.000Your suggestions are always well taken.
00:43:54.000There's a lot of angles we'd like to cover.
00:43:57.000I personally, no exaggeration, work 16-17 hours a day, almost every day, 6-7 days a week.
00:44:47.000Well, I've been following talk shows for years, ever since Chuck Harder and Bill Cooper and so on, and a buddy of mine who listens to Rush Limbaugh, although I could never listen to it, has told me that Mike Savage has attacked Rush Limbaugh and said he's a front for the Republican Party.
00:45:52.000And under Patriot Act II, are they going to come around and confiscate my books like Rule by Secrecy by Jim Mars and Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley?
00:46:18.000Well, just that Michael Savage, who has acted like he's more of a conservative than ultra-Commie Limbaugh, and I mean that when I say it, by the way.
00:46:50.000And because so many people are pulling out of Rush Limbaugh's control and Michael Weiner Savage's control and Laura Ingraham's control and actually going, wait a minute, You guys have got total control of the government, and the age of big government's begun, and wait a minute, you're going after my guns, and wait a minute, you're for UNESCO, and you're for the free trade area.
00:47:10.000So Savage is trying to keep his cutting-edge position, and I have actually, I do listen to talk radio when I'm driving around doing errands, and I have heard him attacking Limbaugh, and he's doing that because he knows that that resonates with the grassroots conservatives that know we've been betrayed, as Ron Paul has said.
00:47:28.000But again, it's just, you know, with Savage, it's just another version of Limbaugh.
00:47:33.000I mean, Limbaugh is consciously trying to deceive and manipulate.
00:47:41.000And again, folks, that doesn't mean that he isn't right about the, quote, liberals.
00:47:45.000But then it's the other side of his message, defending Bush, absconding the truth, hiding it, manipulating it.
00:47:54.000I mean, it's so complex to listen to that guy I mean, he is very sophisticated.
00:48:00.000Limbaugh is actually a triple-speaker, quadruple-speaker, quadruple, super-quad, double-talker, double-speaker, new-thinker.
00:48:12.000I mean, he makes the English Ingsoc, you know, new version, 11th version out of 1984 look tame in comparison.
00:48:21.000I mean, the lying and manipulation is so complex that it's hard to even deal with.
00:48:26.000I mean, I listen to it with my mouth hanging open, and the average person just can't defend against it.
00:48:32.000Have you ever listened to the last day prophet, Brother Stare?
00:48:37.000He's a... I really don't listen to that.
00:48:40.000Well, he's really right down on it about the dollar going up.
00:48:44.000It's under against the Euro and so on.
00:48:47.000Oh yeah, that wasn't... Hey, listen, thanks for calling me.
00:48:52.000I mean, the World Economic Forum three and a half years ago said they were going to deep six the dollar.
00:48:57.000I mean, people think I've got a crystal ball because I predicted all this.
00:49:00.000It's really not... If you're paying attention, folks, what I do is really not that amazing.
00:49:09.000And sometimes I really find it mind-boggling to To not be able to figure out why the yuppies can't see what's happening.
00:49:18.000But again, they feel like they're members of the establishment.
00:49:21.000You know, I talked about this last week.
00:49:25.000I talked about how... Well, number one, the people want to hear the truth.
00:49:34.000And the people, whether they're liberals or conservatives, are beginning to realize that liberal or conservative is just labels.
00:49:41.000And so before the election, the The Limbaughs and the Savages wouldn't criticize Bush.
00:49:49.000Because that was out of favor with the establishment.
00:49:51.000But then after the election, when it doesn't really count, they can do some criticism and try to sure up their base.
00:49:56.000That is, the listeners that are not completely stupid.
00:50:00.000And so that's what they're doing there.
00:50:02.000I mean, I heard Limbaugh a few weeks ago, when Congress had passed the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II and the National ID Card, the Intelligence Bill, I heard him go, man the Republicans have really won a victory, this defeated the Liberals.
00:50:19.000And I went, wait a minute, more Democrats voted for it than Republicans.
00:50:22.000And as I'm thinking that, Limbaugh knows that a sizable portion of his audience knows that, so he doubles back and says, yes, yes, the Democrats really wanted this, ha ha ha, but they didn't know this was in there.
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00:59:36.000We have had them on as guests dozens of times.
00:59:39.000We've defended when members of the so-called left get arrested for Peace on Earth shirts at the mall that they bought there.
00:59:46.000Or somebody's out protesting amongst hundreds of Bush supporters on a public sidewalk, and the police come and arrest someone who has a No Blood for Oil or Down With George Bush sign.
01:01:20.000And in England, and in France, they're passing laws where if you criticize homosexuals in any way, you are arrested.
01:01:28.000Two years in prison in France, and it calculates out from a Euro to $62,000.
01:01:35.000That was last week, past a week ago, in France.
01:01:38.000I've interviewed again BBC reporters that are arrested.
01:01:43.000And I want to repeat all this again with our guests, because this is the picture.
01:01:47.000BBC reporter, the host of One Man and His Dog, went to a rural affairs meeting, gave a speech, saying rural communities have served the same rights as homosexuals and Muslims.
01:02:00.000And Scotland Yard came out and arrested him and said, the word homosexual is derogatory.
01:02:08.000We're going to break here in a moment, and then we're going to have our guest on with us after this quick break.
01:02:13.000And Pennsylvania's passed laws like this, other states have done it, and it's really scary and the average American isn't aware of this.
01:02:22.000Christians face 47 years in prison for reading Bible, praying on street, And this is documented.
01:02:31.000You read Old Testament passages condemning homosexuality, you get arrested.
01:02:38.000And again, whether you agree with these statements or not, and I'm a Christian, I believe in the Bible, or whether you're an atheist, do you believe in the First Amendment?
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01:02:53.000Do you believe in these groups' rights to march?
01:02:56.000Do you believe in the other groups' rights to protest?
01:03:00.000So we're going to break and we'll come back and talk to an American hero who is facing, ladies and gentlemen, who is facing years in prison.
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01:03:19.000And it's so sad, this interview with Michael Markavich of Repent America, who is facing up to 47 years in jail for protesting at Outfest.
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01:07:13.000And regardless of what party you have in office, we're just losing more and more of those basic rights.
01:07:19.000Now again, before the break, I know a lot of stations carry the news, I went over the fact that BBC reporters that criticize even use the word homosexual are arrested.
01:07:29.000That word is illegal in England now if it's not used properly.
01:07:34.000In France, 60 plus thousand dollar fines, years in prison.
01:07:38.000Pennsylvania, a couple years ago passed a law where preachers, if they read Old Testament passages, can be held accountable for creating the root of a hate crime.
01:07:49.000Even if someone doesn't follow what they said and do something violent, still just saying it's a crime, this is thought crime.
01:08:20.000Headline, Christians face 47 years in prison for reading Bible, praying on street, And, uh, it says, after a federal appeals court denied an emergency appeal to stop proposition, the prosecution of 11 Christians, Philadelphia Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan ordered four of the Christians to stand trial on three felony, criminal conspiracy, ethnic intimidation, and riot, and five misdemeanor charges.
01:08:47.000If convicted, they could face up to 47 years in prison.
01:08:51.000The Christians were arrested on October 10th for praying, singing, and reading scripture during an annual gay pride event known as Outfest in Philadelphia.
01:08:59.000And folks, I have mainstream news articles where people get up for the three-minute speeches at city councils and read out of the Bible and are arrested.
01:09:10.000I mean, this is happening all over the country.
01:09:12.000And to give us the details of this is one of the people who's facing 47 years in prison and massive fines, and that's Michael Marcavage, the head of Repent America.
01:09:35.000Repent America, we're an evangelistic organization based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
01:09:41.000And we're here to go out into the public square and proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.
01:09:46.000And this on October 10th happened to be a homosexual organization that established this yearly event called Outfest where thousands upon thousands of homosexuals gather in the city of Philadelphia to celebrate their sin.
01:10:02.000So what we did as Christians went there to evangelize and as we were at this event We were met with great opposition by a group, a militant mob of homosexuals called the Pink Angels.
01:10:15.000And they held big placards about ten feet in the air and encircled us and followed us around the event blowing ear-piercing whistles.
01:10:24.000And the police at first did break a barricade that they put there and we're simply coming in there and we were singing, blessed be the name of the Lord, as a cross-dresser was dancing on the stage.
01:10:37.000We had went to where the police said we can go.
01:10:40.000They said that we can go anywhere we want, public sidewalk, public street.
01:10:44.000So we decided we would just go across the street.
01:10:46.000We didn't want to be too close to the stage.
01:10:50.000But everywhere we went, we were met by this opposition and the police did nothing to stop the obstruction.
01:10:55.000Instead, what they did is they got us to a specific area and brought in the paddy wagons And arrested 11 of us, ages 17 to 72, and took us to the state, um, well, uh, holding cell and then to jail eventually, and we spent 21 hours in prison.
01:11:17.000By the way, even the mainstream media admits that you guys didn't touch anybody, didn't do anything, and I've been at Million Mom marches where in front of the police they hit me in the head with signs, cussed at me.
01:11:30.000One time they did arrest a Million Marcher, She jumped the curb with her car, drove up, drove it up over the curb, was honking.
01:11:37.000John Stattmiller was standing right next to me.
01:11:59.000And in Philadelphia, they have a special unit called the Civil Affairs Unit, and they're supposed to specifically deal with civil rights.
01:12:07.000So we would expect them, obviously, to know the law and know that we have every right, as they had said when we first arrived, to go anywhere we wanted, because it's public streets and public sidewalks.
01:12:16.000But you're right, they don't address the actual people who are committing crime, who are disorderly, who are obstructing, who are impeding people's way and It's certainly remarkable as to how they handle this whole entire situation.
01:12:29.000Well, it turns out that we get charged under Pennsylvania's hate crime law, which is called ethnic intimidation, meaning that if we intimidate someone, and obviously there's a prerequisite at this time in Pennsylvania, you have to commit a different type of an act, and they have on us reckless endangerment of another person, uh... which is what they have to actually have some type of other charge prior to charging us with uh... the ethnic intimidation charge.
01:12:57.000I don't know if that one qualifies but uh... I'm mentioning that is because they did charge us with that ethnic intimidation which is a uh... felony of the second degree and they charge us with criminal conspiracy riot uh... and the charges go on so now what someone does sexually is ethnic is a race Yeah, it's quite interesting.
01:13:22.000They throw it in there with race, color, religion, and then they just throw this.
01:13:27.000Based on who you have sex with, that's the new protected class of people.
01:13:32.000And so, listen, I've been sent emails by major news organizations.
01:13:39.000When I criticized Arnold Schwarzenegger, Uh, for wanting to run for president and his policies.
01:13:45.000I got an email back from a news director going, I'm going to report you to the FBI.
01:13:48.000By criticizing Arnold, you may incite something.
01:13:57.000So everything we ever heard about how they're going to use this for thought crime is now happening.
01:14:02.000So when they came up and arrested you, what did they tell you?
01:14:06.000Well, I had asked specifically, as the director, and trying to cooperate with the police as best as possible, although, you know, they were kind of interfering with our evangelistic ministry by following us around as well.
01:14:19.000They didn't give us any space and obviously didn't deal with the people who were actually blocking and impeding our way and obstructing us.
01:14:28.000They just said, you're all under arrest.
01:14:31.000And they had the paddy wagons come to this specific area and pick us up and take us away.
01:14:35.000And what's remarkable about this whole thing is we had video footage from the very beginning of when we entered this event to the very end.
01:14:42.000There was an independent film company that was with us doing a documentary on our ministry.
01:14:49.000All the conversations between myself and the police are on tape.
01:14:52.000And this was showed in the courtroom in front of Judge Meehan.
01:14:56.000And simply because Judge Meehan did not see the other people on the videotape, because that's when he dismissed the charges against all the women, And, uh, two of the men.
01:15:07.000Every time he would see someone on the tape, he would turn to the defense table and see if that person is there and make a note.
01:15:14.000Uh, so once that was all done, uh, in the courtroom, uh, he decided that there's enough basis for us to go to trial, and myself included, on three felonies and five misdemeanors.
01:15:29.000Uh, it is absolutely astounding to think that the judge Had enough evidence to have him go to trial.
01:15:35.000Now, what are they claiming is the enacting offense to then use the hate crime law?
01:15:40.000Yes, there is a prerequisite to enact that ethnic intimidation.
01:15:45.000Now, the other three people... But what are they claiming you did to trigger that?
01:15:51.000They put their one witness on the stand, the Commonwealth, put their one witness on the stand, and we asked them, well, in cross-examination, well, what exactly did they do That was ethically intimidating.
01:16:53.000If people still don't believe what I'm saying, they could view the entire video footage of what happened at our website, which is repentamerica.com.
01:17:06.000And I think it was definitely God's providence that we had an actual film crew taping this whole thing from two different camera angles.
01:17:15.000And having audio of this whole situation, but now we do face trial because the judge thought that the words we were using, such as repent, are fighting words.
01:17:28.000And that was the Commonwealth's argument.
01:17:30.000And in the closing argument by the Commonwealth, this prosecutor went into a fit of rage declaring us as hateful and disgusting people and deserving to be charged with all these crimes.
01:17:51.000You know, when you think about this ethnic intimidation, it does cover religion, so... Well, folks, we always heard it was going to be, if you go shoot a black person in hateful, racist rage, you get a greater charge.
01:18:04.000Killing somebody is hateful to begin with, whether it's a black guy killing a black guy, or a white guy killing a white guy, or a white woman killing a black guy, or whatever.
01:18:24.000Folks, this is actually happening in America.
01:18:29.000When we get back, sir, I want to talk more about your website, your organization, and this is going to trial, and what this means for this country.
01:18:39.000And by the way, what's going to happen, Democrats, when you go protest Republicans and the court says, oh, what you said was hateful.
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01:25:28.000And this whole idea of hate crime, I don't know of a love crime.
01:25:33.000You know, as you were mentioning earlier, you know, it doesn't matter if it's a black man shooting a white man or a white man shooting a black man, there's no love in any of that, nor is there in any of these other things.
01:25:43.000So, these hate laws are absolutely outrageous, and it's coming to America.
01:25:51.000We always told people this is what it was for, because the social engineers said they were going to do this with these laws, and now they're doing it!
01:26:09.000And what's remarkable about this is that the office, the prosecution in Philadelphia, Lynn Abraham's office, who's ordering our aggressive prosecution, is fully behind this.
01:26:21.000She could at any point obviously decide not to further this anymore, but she has decided To prosecute us to the fullest extent of the law.
01:27:38.000The initial reason he said that he had arrested us was for safety.
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01:32:11.000Good old George Woolley gave it to me years ago and it's a documentary predominantly about how the ACLU will not help Christians when their rights are violated.
01:32:20.000And it shows people having their arms broken by nunchucks, by police for not getting up off the sidewalk.
01:32:27.000Women with babies in their arms being sprayed with mace.
01:33:01.000The Million Mom March and environmental groups that are grabbing people's land.
01:33:05.000I protested Governor Bush for his policies.
01:33:10.000Imagine being arrested, and not just being arrested for disorderly conduct, that's the oldest trick in the book, for doing nothing, but being charged with felonies!
01:33:19.000Even when you have videotape, that you did nothing wrong, and the police is saying, well, the prosecutor is saying, well, you could have incited something!
01:33:52.000We're about to go to calls for Michael Markavich.
01:33:55.000Michael, tell folks about your website.
01:33:58.000Well, we have on our website the video concerning this particular situation and the website is RepentAmerica.com www.RepentAmerica.com and we would encourage people to take a look at this video and you tell us if you see any This is what we were charged with.
01:34:16.000criminal conspiracy, possessions of instrument of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct, obstructing a highway.
01:34:30.000This is what we faced 47 years in jail for doing nothing more than exercising a First Amendment.
01:34:36.000And the police, when they tell you, go to that designated area, go to this designated area.
01:34:41.000Then they load you in a paddy wagon and say, oh it's disorderly conduct.
01:34:45.000And then you get to jail and they start just slapping every charge in the book on you.
01:34:49.000Well, they're just hoping that something's going to stick, probably.
01:34:52.000Well, by the way, I had an American Spectator rider on, far from liberal, who was arrested at the RNC, and I was there.
01:34:59.000I saw the protest that he was in, that was being, you know, a mass arrest.
01:35:05.000I was smart enough to stand back a few hundred yards, and later learned that he had been in the protest that I videotaped.
01:35:11.000And you have an authorized, permanent protest at Ground Zero, across the street, And the police just surrounded it and arrested about 200 of the several thousand people that were there, one of them an American Spectator rider.
01:35:25.000And then the police, a cop he'd never even seen who admitted he wasn't even there, filled out the arrest form while he was in jail.
01:35:33.000For a whole bunch of stuff that would have been years in jail and later they had to drop it and then it wasn't true.
01:35:39.000I mean, cops just randomly filling out arrest sheets on people at downtown booking.
01:35:45.000I mean, this is how industrialized and how commonplace false charges have gotten.
01:35:53.000This may not be surprising to you, but I was at the RNC across the street with a sign and was arrested and spent 32 hours in jail And my charges were just dismissed because the prosecution in New York didn't have the time to move forward with the case.
01:36:10.000Okay, well let's go over that, because I was there from Saturday to Friday for the entire event, and I was threatened three times a day on average.
01:36:18.000We've actually counted it up, and it's in the new film that I'm making.
01:36:23.000I mean, it didn't matter I was in a city park interviewing a little old lady.
01:36:26.000Police would run over, start screaming, cussing, threatening to arrest us.
01:36:31.000And the reason I mentioned the American Spectator was it was AP reporters, liberals, conservatives, 12-year-old children coming home from summer school, just German tourists.
01:39:00.000They transport us When we were transported out of that facility, we were in this bus, I don't know how long, waiting maybe about an hour before the bus ever took off.
01:39:13.000I couldn't believe this was happening, and clearly they were just casting nets over anyone.
01:39:18.000And I was handcuffed to militant homosexuals, to anti-war protesters, to all kinds.
01:39:25.000And we were all there, and we could at least agree on one thing, and that is, it was absolutely outrageous what the city of New York was doing.
01:39:33.000Well, the American Spectator Rider was assaulted by these lunatics.
01:39:38.000So, now again, then we interviewed people who would go, I don't know what was wrong.
01:39:43.000I'd throw something at the cops and they'd come by and tell me I could go free and then they'd arrest all these innocent people.
01:39:57.000I'd be in a little park in Wall Street.
01:39:59.000I'd be anywhere doing an interview, and they'd run over and start screaming.
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01:40:45.000October, you're getting charged with all these thought crimes in Philadelphia.
01:40:52.000And then now in September, you're getting arrested by Madison Square Garden in amongst giant protests for having a... What does your sign say?
01:41:34.000But I know there were people in a section of this that ended up being ill because of oil on the floor and they were all dirty.
01:41:42.000I had to spend some time in central booking with these individuals, and I couldn't believe some of the things they were saying about the cage they were in, which was down at the end of the hallway.
01:41:55.000But be that as it may, I will never forget that experience.
01:42:02.000I mean, just probably 50 people that were inside there, and they said they'd drive a bus in, just park it and run it, and everybody was getting sick, and there was oil all over the floor, and people come out with just oil and huge rashes all over them, and then I'd be across the street videotaping, and police with big TV camera, and they just run over and start screaming, I'M TALKING HERE, MAC, DON'T YOU INTERRUPT ME!
01:42:25.000And I'd be like, uh, well, And finally, I just started standing up to him.
01:42:30.000I said, look, you go ahead and arrest him if you need to, but I'm going to sue you personally.
01:42:34.000And finally, that would make him leave you alone.
01:42:36.000I found, like, trying to follow their orders, because I watch people on my left, on my right, who are nice to them, and they just grab them and slam them down and go, that's right, Mac!
01:43:12.000I mean, we didn't see them say that, but that's how the police were behaving!
01:43:17.000Oh yeah, so we have audio tape, two of this, I had a tape recorder, and I said, okay, officer, we're going to go where you say, but tell me what law I'd be violating, you know, if we stay here.
01:43:32.000So it was unexpected, but I'll tell you, it's some of the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in the sense of them dealing with people who are peaceful.
01:43:41.000You know, even the anti-war people, I mean, they're probably people that got out of control, but at the same time, they knew in advance.
01:43:48.000They had that concentration camp down on the Hudson already prepared, well in advance.
01:43:54.000By the way, did you know, here in Austin, Texas, they set one of these up in 99.
01:44:12.000Again, you're going to be talking to a man, Michael Marcavage, facing 47 years in prison, Uh, for peacefully protesting, all part of the new freedom.
01:44:21.000Paul in Tennessee, you're on the air, go ahead.
01:44:50.000We shouldn't support either one of them.
01:44:52.000If they tell you rain is wet, I wouldn't believe them.
01:44:57.000And that's what I have to say about left and right.
01:45:04.000Also, I listened to you on a FM, a micro-FM here in Tennessee, and the owner of the station
01:45:16.000Has of course been harassed a lot and he had a friend who told him that the authorities keep a master file on every American citizen and that they were creating these files and that the programmers were lying to the computer and putting things in this master file that weren't even true.
01:45:36.000Now he sent for his master file through the Freedom of Information Act and among Some of the things that were in that file was that he was a resident of the Bahamas.
01:45:48.000I mean, he had a business in the Bahamas, that he was a major drug dealer dealing $10 million worth of drugs per year.
01:45:58.000It's totally ridiculous, but I... No, but...
01:46:03.000Those are FBI files that there is not a file on every single American.
01:46:07.000And again, for those that missed part of what you just said, because every time I get one of these calls, people get confused.
01:46:11.000Micro FM, and I don't agree with this term, but I use the term because semantically, then people know what we're talking about, it's known as pirate radio.
01:47:12.000Well, I'm not in the Republic of Texas.
01:47:14.000No members of the Republic of Texas were there.
01:47:16.000The Republic of Texas isn't a terror group, by the way.
01:47:19.000But the point is, it's just to demonize a group of pro-gun.
01:47:22.000Well, that one was a pro-land rights group.
01:47:25.000It's to marginalize somebody's reading off a file at headquarters.
01:47:30.000And you hear the cops being told this stuff that isn't true!
01:47:33.000And a lot of this demonization goes on.
01:47:36.000Any comments to what he was just saying, Michael?
01:47:39.000Well, what's interesting is with the FBI and the files they keep, I came back from the DNC convention in Boston and I was greeted with a card from the FBI through my door.
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01:53:06.000All right, we're going to keep our guest, Michael Markavich, into the next hour, about 30 minutes.
01:53:12.000We appreciate him doing that so we can talk to Jim and Ken and Kevin and Ron and everybody else that's patiently holding on this December 20th, 2004 Monday edition.
01:53:23.000Before we go back to Michael and others, other thought criminals, Folks, the globalists are losing control.
01:53:31.000That's why they're trying to squeeze so tight right now.
01:53:33.000That's why they're panicking, trying to restrict free speech across the board.
01:53:39.000Regardless of what group you're affiliated with.
01:53:41.000But it's particularly bad against real Christian conservatives.
01:53:44.000That's the most persecuted group out there, clearly from the track record I've seen.
01:53:50.000But it's expanding out for everyone to enjoy it as well.
01:53:53.000In fact, in Police State 3 Total Enslavement, I have the mainstream news articles and video clips where people that sue government officials for taking their land are arrested, charged, and convicted as terrorists.
01:54:04.000That's like two minutes of that two-hour, 44-minute film.
01:54:20.000Three or four minutes of that is FEMA in Kansas City saying all Christians are terrorists, the Founding Fathers are terrorists, Christians are enemies of the federal government.
01:54:28.000Then we have their training manuals and their documents where they're teaching police this.
01:54:35.000Then we show police with their own squad car video cameras repeating the things from the manuals as they arrest unarmed women with no criminal record for their political affiliation.
01:54:45.000I mean, we show you the brainwashing and then we show it to you in function.
01:54:50.000But just that little three minute clips of the FEMA guy and then it's about 15 minutes we spend on the whole thing total out of the entire film.
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01:55:00.000You can watch all 11 of my films and a bunch of other.
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01:56:07.000All right, going back to Mike in Arizona.
01:56:11.000Mike, you've got about a minute and a half with our guest before this hour ends.
01:56:15.000Yes, Mr. Markovich, has your attorney discussed the possibility of suing the judge and the prosecutor, for example, under the RICO, federal RICO statutes?
01:56:28.000It was only a couple years ago, I recall, that the Philadelphia Municipal Court was charged under the RICO statutes and they lost.
01:56:37.000Some of these corrupt judges were swept off the bench.
01:56:41.000Right now, we're specifically dealing with the criminal aspect until we then, after that's done with, if we don't get convicted, We can file a federal suit and then possibly deal with what you just mentioned.
01:56:56.000You may be able to trade some blood for justice here by getting these people into civil court, getting them served notice on them.
01:57:11.000This intimidation business works two ways.
01:57:16.000You know, we need to start bringing these people into federal court and making them responsible for craziness like this.
01:57:24.000Mike, I wanted to get your comment on that.
01:57:26.000I mean, this is hard for me to believe that these cases are popping up all over the country where people admittedly don't do anything wrong, don't even threaten anybody, and they're being charged with felonies.
01:58:51.000And again, it's happening to people all over the country, all over the western world.
01:58:55.000BBC News reporters are being arrested for saying the word homosexual.
01:59:00.000That's considered a hate word now in England.
01:59:03.000We have that BBC News article on PrisonPlanet.com and the audio archives along with the interview I did two years ago with a BBC reporter that it happened to.
02:00:56.000No, in all reality, this is something they just want to sweep under the carpet as if it never happened and just let the hate crime law go unchallenged in the public forum.
02:01:05.000So, you know, that's not what's expected.
02:01:08.000And to touch on something you had mentioned, that the prosecution may, well, they're not trying to get us convicted in this regard, where... They are!
02:01:15.000Yeah, and this is the thing, is that we never thought we'd be charged with three felonies and five misdemeanors.
02:01:22.000So, for them to, you know, back down now, I think would be outrageous on their part, and they would face quite a hefty lawsuit, which they still will, regardless, because there are six women that have been Um, taken out of the equation, their case has been dismissed in the criminal court and we're looking forward to aggressively fighting that from a different angle.
02:01:42.000Okay, well I hope you'll keep us posted through Alex.
02:01:46.000But Mike, to be clear, Mike, we have to talk about this.
02:01:49.000I mean, it's good that we had Michael on as a guest.
02:01:53.000But we have to do more than talk about it, Alex.
02:01:54.000No, I know, but your statement of this actually aids the establishment.
02:02:15.000But I hope you'll keep us posted and if necessary, some of us would be willing to contribute to your legal defense and whatever legal action you choose to take here.
02:02:26.000Well, please visit our website there and if you could send some information about what you know about Philadelphia and the RICO, I'd appreciate that as well.
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02:06:01.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:06:06.000Welcome back into the third hour, 8 minutes, 30 seconds.
02:06:11.000Into the third hour, talking to Michael Markavich of Repent America.
02:06:18.000Didn't touch anybody, didn't cuss at anybody, didn't do anything but go out and sing hymns on a street corner during a gay pride march and was arrested because what they were doing was an ethnic intimidation.
02:07:06.000This is happening all over the country.
02:07:09.000I mean, just a few months ago, uh, in a city council, On the East Coast, I read the article here on air, a man got up during his three-minute speech that you can give in Citizens Communication, read from the Bible, some passages that were critical of homosexuality, and the mayor ordered him arrested and said, that's hateful!
02:07:35.000Now, again, this is what the government thinks is normal.
02:07:39.000And whether you're a pro-life demonstrator, or a anti-war activist, or an environmental activist, it doesn't matter.
02:07:46.000They're doing this to people across the board, but the environmental activists, you know, they just charge them with three or four misdemeanors, and they gotta pay some big fines.
02:07:54.000With Christians, they're trying to put them under the jail!
02:08:49.000And another movie which I saw last night on one of the cable channels, which is called Dark Blue, It's about corrupt cops, how they went into a black neighborhood and just literally just shoot up people left and right, planting drugs, the whole bit.
02:09:27.000I've been reading the Bible more, and now I'm a Christian.
02:09:32.000Well, that's why we do what we do, because we do care about the homosexual people that are celebrating their sin openly in the streets of America.
02:10:09.000Yes, Michael, I have a question for you.
02:10:11.000Under the First Patriot Act, there was a provision that said that the mere advocacy of a crime was a felony.
02:10:18.000In other words, if you were to tell a homosexual that I believe you should be executed, or even if you tell a homosexual, I believe God should execute you, under that Patriot Act, that's a felony.
02:10:27.000Now, I take it you didn't do anything like that, is that correct?
02:10:30.000No, no, we didn't do anything like that, but they're saying the word repent.
02:10:34.000The word, um, you know, turn from your sin is what, uh, it was the hate crime.
02:10:43.000Look, you have a right to go out and tell people that your view that they are in sin, that they need to turn and repent.
02:10:52.000And look, anti-war demonstrators have the right to go out and be for the war or against the war and to say George Bush is a criminal.
02:11:01.000I mean, look folks, you've got Michael Savage calling for arresting anybody that disagrees with the government and quote, putting all the liberals in forced labor camps, and then you've got the quote, liberals out grabbing people and whole groups of men and women out peacefully protesting, wanting to put them under the jail.
02:11:17.000Regardless, the system is setting it up to put us in prison for no reason and to violate the First Amendment.
02:11:27.000I mean, and to think, it doesn't matter whether it's a Democrat, an Officer, a Republican, whoever's in the Congress, we seem to be marching headlong into this new world order.
02:11:47.000They're having to do this because free speech can defeat them.
02:11:50.000You know, they can demonize the anti-abortion people all day long, but major polls show that the majority of young people and adults have switched from being pro-abortion to being anti-abort.
02:12:11.000In Pennsylvania, I'm sure that Michael Markavich is aware of this, Pennsylvania, what, last year passed a law and told preachers, you better watch what you read out of the Old Testament.
02:12:48.000There was a council meeting July 21st, 2004, in which they just appointed a homosexual activist to the council.
02:12:56.000The previous person on the council ended up in some kind of a sexual relationship with another council member and then resigned.
02:13:03.000So then they strategically placed this person in there, and now they had this meeting, which is just a monthly council meeting.
02:13:12.000I went there as a resident of Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, which is just outside of Philadelphia, to just ask what direction are they leading the community in, and just wanted to speak to the issue of them attracting homosexuals into the town because of A comment made by this newly appointed homosexual activist in the Philadelphia Gay News where he said that his appointment and the borough council hope that this will lead to more gays and lesbians moving to town.
02:13:38.000And I just said, well, as a Christian, I'm opposed to this because of what the Bible says.
02:13:42.000And Romans Chapter 1 began to read from the Bible.
02:13:46.000It was labeled hate speech by the council president.
02:13:49.000It was a unanimous decision to adjourn the meeting.
02:13:52.000And then I was dragged out of the meeting and charged the next day with two crimes.
02:13:57.000One was disrupting a public meeting and the other one was disorderly conduct, which are now headed to trial.
02:14:04.000The district attorney in the court argued that we couldn't just let him go up to the podium and read from the Bible.
02:14:09.000That would be homophobic today, was her argument.
02:14:13.000Yeah, actually, that was in the mainstream newspaper.
02:14:16.000Now again, folks, in America, Your speech is disappearing!
02:14:21.000And if you take Michael Markavich's speech, you lose your speech, too!
02:14:37.000Yeah, they were quoted in the newspaper, because I read that on air several times, in the local paper, as saying, look, you can't criticize a group, that's illegal!
02:15:16.000And he's the one that signed this into law, Republican Governor.
02:15:20.000So we now, in this area of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia and the suburb of Lansdowne, which is just outside the city, I'm sure without question these district attorneys are talking to one another and they're discussing these matters and how they can Get what they want, and that is the hate crime to be prosecuted.
02:16:03.000on our website at RepentAmerica.com, the video of what happened in Philadelphia.
02:16:08.000I would encourage your listeners to just look at what happened and see if you see these crimes as I mentioned earlier.
02:16:13.000The riots, the criminal conspiracy, the possessions of instruments of crime, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct, obstructing a highway, reckless endangerment of another person.
02:16:23.000These crimes are nowhere to be found in that video footage that we have and this is what they're trying to provide for the evidentiary basis as to what we did.
02:16:32.000Alright, let's talk to another caller in Boston.
02:16:43.000You two know and have said that Christians who believe in Scripture and who dare speak out about it are going to be the prime target of the New World Order, but I just want to encourage Mr. Michael Markowitz that The New World Order will not be here 47 years from now.
02:16:58.0001938, Hitler was Man of the Year and now we have George Bush, but Hitler was gone 7 years later in 1945.
02:17:04.000It's their time that grows short, not ours.
02:17:08.000People wonder when they hear this stuff and they get frightened, they say, why does God let evil get so bad?
02:17:14.000And I think, thinking about what you've been saying, Alex, I think one answer is It makes it easy to make the clear choice on what to do is right when you have Nazi, New World Order, Satanists to go against.
02:17:25.000I mean, it's no longer some gray area.
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02:21:42.000It's very important to point out again that every conceivable group you can imagine across the board is being arrested for absolutely no reason.
02:22:00.000That Homeland Security is visiting small toy store owners about possible copyright infringement, you know, on knockoff Rubik's Cubes that it turns out are totally legal.
02:22:13.000Or veterans complaining to the VA too much, or 17-year-old kids with a bag of marijuana.
02:22:21.000Oh, you don't get your rights, we're stripping you of those, or we're charging you as a terrorist.
02:22:27.000But then on the other hand, government corruption is more out in the open than ever, and they hardly ever get in trouble.
02:22:40.000We're going to go back here to Kevin and Ron and Ed and Brian and Brad and Jason, everybody, but do you have any comments on that, Michael?
02:22:51.000I mean, you've been all over the country.
02:22:55.000You saw liberals, conservatives, it didn't matter, just randomly being arrested.
02:23:00.000Yeah, it's quite remarkable in the sense that We can agree that the First Amendment needs to be protected, and I received an email the other day from a homosexual man who said it's a disgrace what happened in Philadelphia.
02:23:13.000Just renouncing, very passionately, what they did in Philadelphia on October 10th when they arrested 11 Christians, ages 17 to 72, for three felonies and five misdemeanors.
02:23:27.000And it's admitted, just standing there on the street praying, that's your new America, folks.
02:23:32.000Is anybody else free when these type of tragedies can happen?
02:23:38.000Finishing up what you were saying, Kevin in Boston?
02:23:41.000Well, Alex, I dared to exercise my free speech again this morning on NPR's national coverage, and I've got a, it may be too much time to review, I had a 55 second clip where I plugged it, and they were talking about Saddam Hussein's trial, and the caller before me had said, just hang him without a trial.
02:23:58.000And I had a quick response, if I may, or is it too much?
02:24:22.000I have a question and a quick reaction to the caller Jim, what he had to say.
02:24:26.000My question is, how can we say we are not politicizing the rule of law when our own government has made public statements that the Geneva Convention is now obsolete?
02:24:35.000And while we charged Saddam Hussein with the crimes under the Geneva Convention, in reaction to what the caller Jim was saying, just hang him now, the problem with that type of message sending, it's an effective message, but the problem is People aren't asking, like Sherm Skolnick of Corp and Dagger and Alex Jones of Infowars.com are reporting that the Saddam we have in custody is a known decoy captured, not the real Saddam, like, you know, Rudolf Pesce's case.
02:25:00.000They point to a comparison of photos of the captured Saddam with ones that our own government claimed were the decoy when he was out in the streets, you know, still when Saddam was still clinging to power.
02:25:11.000John, let me if I can, the first part.
02:25:13.000That's pretty much the best of it there, Alex.
02:25:16.000Well, it certainly could be one of the decoys, is what we've been saying, but bottom line, it's going to be a staged election, staged trial.
02:25:41.000Your guest mentioned the Patriot Act and Two weeks ago, whenever Ashcroft resigned, the ACLJ, American Center for Law and Justice, whose president is Jay Sekulow, and Pat Robertson, on his program, made these two comments, lauding and applauding Patriot Act and what Ashcroft, his contribution to that, and I have the clip here.
02:26:08.000The Pat Robertson clip is a minute, and the Jay Sekulow comments are a minute and a half.
02:26:13.000I don't think we have time to play those two clips before the break, but what are the rest of your comments?
02:27:04.000Alex, I also called his program Several days ago, Jay Sagan, I asked the question, what about all of the shortwave and, which is not shortwave, regular radio stations in the rest of the country, but not on the East Coast, only shortwave?
02:27:21.000Alex Jones, I mentioned your name, other... Tell you what, stay there, we'll finish up on the other side with our guest.
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02:31:05.000And the neocon so-called Christian leaders are simply there to keep Christian conservatives under control to make sure we don't struggle too much as the New World Order is set up.
02:31:18.000And I'm really glad that Michael Markavich brought up the fact that, you know, Jay Sekulow and the rest of these guys are basically a bunch of New World Order minions.
02:31:28.000And yeah, they'll tell you how the chip isn't too bad, and well, the Patriot Acts of the Lord, and oh, it's to fight the evil Muslims, and you don't hear Jay Sekulow talking about FEMA training to arrest all the homeschoolers.
02:31:44.000You know, that the homeschoolers are all evil terrorists.
02:32:24.000We'll hear the op, we'll hear him talk, which was the case, and that's why I brought it up, is that he voiced his support in regards to Judge Moore removing the monument from the, which is a clear violation of Judge Moore's, Judge Roy Moore's First Amendment, but we won't go into that.
02:32:44.000It's very sad to see these leaders mislead.
02:32:54.000Pat Robertson said, quote, we owe him, we owe Attorney General Ashcroft a great debt of gratitude for his role as the Attorney General in bringing in the Patriot Act, etc.
02:33:07.000Jay Sekulow had said on previous broadcasts, he helped, he said, quote, I helped write the Patriot Act, and he said in this comment that I had made before to you that he had lunch with Attorney General Ashcroft the week of his resignation.
02:33:24.000The logo for the American Center for Law and Justice is we're here to protect, listen to the irony here, we're here to protect your constitutional freedoms.
02:33:35.000Now, the quote, Alex, biblically, is this, Jeremiah 8, 10 through 12, it says, From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain.
02:33:48.000Prophets and priests alike all practice deceit.
02:33:52.000They dress the wound of my people as though were not serious.
02:33:57.000What we're talking about is the ultimate seriousness in what's happening.
02:34:02.000Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.
02:34:05.000Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct?
02:35:45.000Pastor Pike has been emphasizing that, Alex.
02:35:47.000When you look at the number of people like This Admiral Moore, down there in Alabama, it was a group of Anti-Defamation League lawyers that went after him.
02:35:56.000Bush, who is in cahoots with Mr. Sharon, in this blood-filled New World Order, they're putting their final touches on here.
02:36:05.000And Pastor Pike pulls no punches in pointing out who is behind this, and that we need to reclaim Christianity from this Judeo-Christianity.
02:36:13.000That's where it stands today, gentlemen.
02:36:19.000I mean, to say Israel's one block, though, I would not say is accurate, Ed.
02:36:25.000But I would say that certainly, I mean, the ADL did go after, so did the Southern Poverty Law Center, did go after Judge Roy Moore.
02:36:35.000And then people like Sekulow danced around and said, oh, Bush is, you know, fighting for your Ten Commandments while Bush was probably against it.
02:38:10.000And again, I'm not saying you're going to hell if you've got a Christmas tree in your house.
02:38:14.000The point is you should know the history of it.
02:38:16.000So these idiots, you know, are saying, take down the Christmas tree.
02:38:21.000Folks, the Christmas tree is a usurpation of what the holiday is really supposed to be about, but now they're even making them take that down.
02:38:49.000Well, that's the most ridiculous thing.
02:38:52.000The efforts of some of these organizations like the ACLU and the ADL, I mean, they were founded by liberal, you know, Jewish people who have no care or concern about things of God.
02:39:04.000And that's where their efforts are going.
02:39:05.000Alex, can I ask your guest a question?
02:39:08.000Well, first of all, I want to tell your guest, Michael, that remember the words of Andrew Jackson, one man with courage is a majority.
02:39:15.000And I hate to say this, but it looks like you're going to be standing alone.
02:39:19.000You're probably going to get a lot of lip service.
02:39:22.000But as I remember the Indianapolis Baptist Temple, I didn't see anybody coming to their rescue either because they were all afraid of their 501c3 relations.
02:39:31.000I also wanted to mention Romans 4.15 is the reason why you were charged with all these felonies.
02:39:38.000I think at 415, Paul writes that where there is no law, there can be no transgression, which makes sense.
02:39:43.000But if you remember, if there's a lot of laws, there's a lot of transgressions.
02:39:47.000And if there's a lot of transgressions, there's a lot of litigation, which means there's a lot of money being exchanged.
02:39:53.000So the whole thing here is wrapping you up with all these felonies to get... Yeah, they're setting up a system to get everybody ensnared.
02:40:02.000And the last thing I want to say, and I'll get out of here, is I think you should probably Go the opposite way that they think you're going to go, and I really think, which you should do, if you can find a lawyer that's courageous, which I don't think you can, but if you can, I think your best bet would be to subpoena the prosecutor of your case as a witness for you at your trial.
02:40:24.000What they're going to do if you do that, if you're successful in subpoenaing them, they're going to quash the subpoena And then they're going to be in a situation where if they go on with your trial and convict you, then you have a rightful duty or a rightful claim to sue the prosecutor for ruining your case.
02:41:35.000Yes, the arraignment is January 5th and then from there there's going to be, you know, hearing after hearing.
02:41:40.000And again, for those that just joined us, dozens of people arrested, now 11 charged for praying and singing on a street corner and saying repent.
02:41:54.000So, this is your new inciting to violence.
02:42:08.000And something I'm doing, basically, is that we know that we're in the end times.
02:42:13.000We know that this is going to be a problem.
02:42:17.000The thing is trying to get people, like on your program, you know, it would be Since you're a Christian, I'm a Christian, we ought to be asking God, at the start of our programs, to open people's eyes, turn people's hearts.
02:42:34.000Just take a moment and ask His blessing, ask Him to help us.
02:42:41.000I guess it's just an important point with me, to draw the Lord into all of these.
02:43:32.000So now it's down to four people there in the lion's den, or there in the furnace.
02:43:37.000And they're going to try to, you know, just admittedly, you've got nothing wrong and police were apologizing when you were, you know, taking you out of your jail cells and talking to you.
02:43:45.000Everybody knows this is craziness, but it just shows what this government wants to do and we'll be there standing with you, my friend.
02:43:54.000Now, let me... I want to hit some final news here, but I also want to try to comment on what the last caller was saying.
02:44:03.000You know, bring God into everything we do here on this radio broadcast.
02:44:08.000I make no secret about the fact that I consider myself to be a Christian.
02:44:13.000But if that means a Christian like Pat Robertson or George Bush, then no, I'm not that type of Christian.
02:44:22.000And so the average person driving along in their car listening to this broadcast for the first time, hearing us talk about how we're Christian, is going to turn it off real fast.
02:44:32.000Thinking, oh my gosh, these are the people that want to bomb and attack all these countries.
02:44:36.000These are the people that are engaged in all this lying and scamming and all this.
02:45:12.000And I believe in what these groups are doing.
02:45:14.000But even if I don't believe in what these groups are doing, even if I disagree with them, I stand up for their right to say what they're saying and what they're doing.
02:45:24.000But if you want to know why Pat Robertson and the rest of them do what they do, Janet Reno, in the mid-90s, went after the Christian Coalition.
02:45:35.000And the twenty-something TV channels he had, the tens of billions of dollars in holdings, Pat Robertson, Pat Racehorse Robinson, Mr. China's doing what it has to do with forced abortion, they need more Planned Parenthood, and then I'm back as I read his quote, he said it on CNN, Why did they do this?
02:46:56.000Why, they bring Jesus into everything they do.
02:47:00.000I'm not one of these people who, you know, Christ was saying, look at those guys over there on the hill who pray in public, you know, who want everybody to see how good they are.
02:47:27.000Because the thoughts I have are horrible.
02:47:30.000And they're continuous, just like everybody else.
02:47:33.000And I know that it goes against the basic programming that God put in me.
02:47:37.000And, uh, you know, we are a fallen creature.
02:47:42.000But I, I just, When you use the nomenclature of, oh, I'm a Christian, oh, I'm a Christian, it just almost feeds into what the beast system's doing.
02:47:52.000I mean, folks, if the beast system is truly coming in, the beast is going to say he's Jesus.
02:47:59.000Well, see, the church has been set up now to, when the Antichrist stands up, he's going to say he's the Christ, and the world's going to kneel, and the churches are going to kneel.
02:48:13.000And when they're cutting our heads off, the churches are going to be out there cheering, thinking they're killing devil worshippers.
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02:51:40.000Of course, you already know the good news is they found the 8-month-old baby alive after you already know the good news is they found the 8-month-old baby alive after that psychopathic demon had cut it in Kansas.
02:52:05.000and The murder was in Missouri, in Kansas City.
02:52:09.000But I'm glad the father got his daughter back.
02:52:14.000And I think prayers really did count there.
02:52:18.000And there's just so much other news here.
02:52:20.000I mean, it's just the level of tyranny that we have coming upon us.
02:52:26.000Last Friday night, Bush had a signing ceremony during the day and then a party at night where we're passing parts of Patriot Act II and the National ID Card, and it even had amnesty provisions in it where the illegal aliens get driver's licenses and everything.
02:52:42.000Android security, intelligent military operative coming to a prison or police station near you.
02:52:48.000Future police state use of ASIMO, the robot.
02:52:54.000A visitor writes, I saw the robot story on Honda's new robot, the very scary Terminator 2 stuff.
02:52:59.000Here's what I fear the technology will be used for.
02:53:02.000Comment, this isn't even a joking matter.
02:53:04.000They're already admitting using unmanned drone planes to spy on Americans and automated systems to control the goal.
02:53:11.000What kind of commercial benefit is there in all this thing does is shake people's hands and talk back to them in generic robot speak.
02:53:19.000I see Homeland Security psychopaths linking their lips at the security applications of the new robot that can run, I'm thinking crowd control, noise weapon emitters, in a setting where it tasers anyone who gets within 10 feet of specific areas.
02:53:36.000All that's missing is the black ski mask.
02:53:39.000Or maybe in the future, the robots will rebel against their masters, forcing President Arnold Schwarzenegger to declare war on robots and those that harbor robots, thus re-assuming his Terminator mantle and fighting the evil of robots.
02:53:54.000Okay, that last part was a joke, but the way the world is heading, I wouldn't laugh too hard.
02:54:00.000Flashback, and then we've got a picture of the THX-1138 robots.
02:54:05.000Got this new robot that'll run around and Walks like a person.
02:54:10.000And I've got the Marines on video, admitting they've got combat mechs that are classified.
02:54:16.000And I've seen it in the news, they've got these little mini army tanks with all these weapons to drive around and control our lives.
02:54:23.000What's dangerous about these is that such a few, just a small number of globalists could control them.
02:54:29.000Bush plans to tighten budget to slash deficit.
02:54:33.000If you really believe that, we have the biggest, he said that last time, we have the biggest deficit ever.
02:54:39.000Pentagon reporting they're going to domestically spy on the American people.
02:54:42.000That's USA Today, that's already been going on for a while.
02:54:46.000A National Guardsman, this is out of the Associated Press, had sex with a 17-year-old man, and he was a male guardsman, and then just went ahead and blew his head off so he wouldn't have any trouble from him.
02:54:59.000That's the kind of liberation that's going on over in Iraq.
02:55:04.000Before I end this broadcast, I do just want to wish everybody a happy and safe and healthy holiday, and to remember what Christmas is really all about, and to spend time with your family, and to think about the state of the world, and make a New Year's resolution to fight the New World Order, but we'll be back long before the New Year.
02:55:22.000A lot of big rebroadcasts coming up this week.
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