Alex Jones on the latest episode of Conspiracy Theories, covering the government cover-up of the Oklahoma City Bombing and the possible link to the 9/11 attacks. Alex Jones is joined by attorney Jesse Trentadube and retired US Army Sergeant John Moore.
00:02:49.000There were a lot of murders, as we've covered, of people who tried to expose government involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing, and his brother was clearly murdered.
00:03:01.000And we have the photographs, the autopsy photos, going up.
00:03:08.000We've had police officers that worked the case on this broadcast talk about police officers who they found Hands bound, tortured massively, and then the government would say it's a suicide.
00:03:24.000So we're talking about cop killers here as well.
00:03:29.000But if the government kills cops, it's okay, I guess.
00:04:04.000We're going to be talking to John Moore.
00:04:10.000Police officer, Green Beret, expert on the New World Order, He'll be sharing his experience and world view with us coming up in the middle of the next hour.
00:04:24.000And I'm trying to get the club owners on who are putting microchips in their patrons here in the U.S.
00:04:30.000Before it was ever a newspaper in the West, we had the European distributor for Verichip on to give us lots of inside scoops on nightmares earlier this year.
00:04:43.000And now we picked up on it here in the U.S., so we're trying to get that for you as well.
00:04:47.000A lot of other news we'll cover when we get back before we get our first guest on InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, ArnoldExposed.com.
00:06:10.000But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
00:06:13.000The video sheltering in place surviving acts of terrorism from biological, chemical, and radioactive fallout was developed by Wayne LeBaron, a health physicist who has served as a specialist in environmental health, communicable diseases, and has worked as a nuclear specialist for the U.S.
00:08:25.000It's kind of like these Arkansides where people are shot in the back of the head and have torture marks all over them and thrown out in the field and then the medical examiner says, oh, it's suicide!
00:08:36.000And we're posting some of the grisly photos, per his request.
00:08:41.000You can see the reality of this on the side.
00:08:43.000And it isn't just this gentleman's brother who was killed for knowing too much.
00:08:48.000Police, medical examiners, coroners, a lot of people got threats or were killed surrounding this.
00:08:56.000And I'm tempted to try to get Colonel Craig Roberts on.
00:09:53.000After all, the new government study says mercury's good for your brain.
00:09:57.000By the way, we've got a big medical school up in Canada.
00:10:04.000Up in Calgary, a little four-minute video piece about what mercury does to the brain, the worst heavy metal known for brain interactions.
00:10:13.000In fact, to the great folks running the broadcast, I meant to tell you to do this earlier, but it was a wild morning getting ready for the show.
00:10:21.000When you go to PrisonPlanet.com, and down at the bottom, I think it's under Multimedia, it says, uh, Mercury Bad for the Brain, and it's like a four- or five-minute video clip on PrisonPlanet.com.
00:10:34.000from the University Medical School, actually with electron microscopes on brain cells that have even had light mercury exposure, the type of exposure you get from injections with your shots.
00:11:07.000I mean, I know that they tell you that mercury is now good for your brain, and I'm an extremist because I keep pointing out that, well, thousands of studies say it's not.
00:12:03.000Dollar lows worsen as rival currencies hit new heights.
00:12:09.000The dollar tumbled to new all-time lows against the euro, a 12-year benchmark against sterling, and a near 5-year trough against the Yen, buckling under the weight of the U.S.
00:12:27.000The single European currency hit a record point of $133.84 in early European trading, topping records set earlier here and in Asia.
00:12:39.000The single European currency stood at $1.3321 at around 11.30 Greenwich Mean Time.
00:12:48.000Yesterday in New York trading, the dollar fell to 101.84 yen, the lowest level since January 2000, before recovering to 102.56 yen.
00:13:04.000Sterling also scaled a new 12-year summit against the ailing greenback, breaking above 194 dollars for the first time since September 92, as Finance Minister Gordon Brown prepared to give an annual mini-budget.
00:13:20.000Economists see the dollar's decline as inevitable in order to alleviate the massive U.S.
00:13:27.000current account and budget deficits by reducing America's appetite for imports and giving a boost to exports.
00:13:35.000It was still a dollar weakness story, said Audrey Sheldie Friedman, economist at Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce.
00:13:46.000Adding that the pound dollar and euro dollar rates still look like a one-way upward trade.
00:13:55.000The euro's seemingly inexorable rise to record highs has set alarm bells ringing in the eurozone for policy makers at the European Central Bank or meeting in Frankfurt in monetary policy.
00:15:15.000Prisons, black ski masks, cameras everywhere, tattletale squads everywhere, government paying for your paychecks, and people will support the government because that's how they're going to get paid.
00:15:59.000Because the people that own our debt overseas are the same people that own our Federal Reserve.
00:16:03.000So they're just jacking up one currency they've got while devaluing another.
00:16:07.000And in the process of devaluing that currency, they can take their new super currency and buy up all our real estate and stock market for pennies on the dollar, especially once it starts dropping.
00:16:21.000So it's what the left hand's doing versus the right hand.
00:16:27.000As in all things, it's basically the same little system here.
00:16:34.000Helens is the state of Oregon's top polluter out of the Associated Press.
00:16:40.000And again, every time there is a volcanic eruption, a big ash or gas spewer, it puts out more pollution than the entire world produces, that is, humans produce in a year.
00:17:24.000Since the volcano began erupting in early October, it has been pumping out 50 to 250 tons a day of sulfur dioxide, the lung-stinging gas that causes acid rain and contributes to haze.
00:17:38.000At peak, that's more than double the amount from all the states' industries combined.
00:17:43.000Funny, the report here says it's more than the entire West combined.
00:17:50.000Normally the state's number one polluter is coal-fired power plant owned by the Canadian firm TransAtlanta.
00:17:57.000The plant churned out 200 tons a day of sulfur dioxide until regulations demanded 250 million worth of renovations, bringing the level down to 27 tons a day.
00:18:07.000Tough to get those kind of results from a volcano.
00:18:10.000Yeah, they should find the volcano, have a UN tax on it.
00:19:29.000When big money got together and had its patent running out on Preon, they just banned it, and then made you go to what they had patented.
00:19:45.000I mean, literally, they had a thing on about against marijuana the other day on TV, and it was Dr. DuPont.
00:19:51.000It was a DuPont family doctor saying how bad marijuana is, because they're the ones that got it banned to begin with, because it's a lot better than the cotton.
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00:24:18.000Why, marijuana is the most deadly thing on earth.
00:24:21.000Well, they got it banned in this country because most of the varieties don't even have THC in it that'll, you know, get you quote high.
00:24:28.000It was because it's better than cotton, but forget cotton.
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00:24:56.000And again, I'm all for new technologies and new fuels and things, but if you think your car is anything even close to volcanoes, In what all the cars on the planet are able to put out, you've got another thing coming.
00:25:10.000Now, what is the problem is in Africa and Mexico and all these places where they openly smelt the batteries down that have been used and all these other chemicals and then it just drifts on the jet stream endlessly around the world.
00:26:43.000This is the British Prime Minister Tony Blair said, "We're putting the National ID card in, and any of you that don't do it are going to be fined $5,000 or 2,500 pounds." And it actually says in the article that foreigners don't have to have one.
00:27:17.000If you're in the country less than three months, obviously that'd be the so-called terrorist, you don't have to have your national ID card.
00:27:26.000Even if you believe the government was really introducing this protect us from the terrorist legislation, the only people who won't have to take the card are foreigners who are in the country less than three months, the terrorists.
00:27:39.000And then it gets into that in the article.
00:27:41.000People who refuse to register with the Planned National Identity Cards database will be fined £2,500, the government said yesterday.
00:27:50.000There will also be penalties of £1,000 for those who fail to renew their ID cards or forget to update their details when they move homes.
00:28:00.000The fines will be levied when it becomes compulsory to cooperate with the controversial ID card scheme And it says, uh, polls saying 20% of the public oppose the plans and the anti-ID card groups claiming to be signing hundreds of new supporters daily raises the prospect 20%?
00:28:22.000We've posted BBC polls where it was 90 plus percent.
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00:34:32.000Before we go any further, speaking of Oklahoma City, my film, 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, shows the admissions where the U.S.
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00:37:58.000Going to our guest, who I appreciate his courage going public on this, it's now kind of a public secret, kind of like the CIA bringing in the drugs, and everybody knows it, And I'll just say it.
00:38:08.000The government didn't know and let somebody bomb the building.
00:38:33.000Just in a nutshell, for those who just joined us, tell us about yourself, how you woke up, what you believe happened to your brother.
00:38:41.000Well, my brother and I, we're from West Virginia, a close family.
00:38:45.000My brother was murdered because he fit the description of John Doe II.
00:38:53.000The government was heavily involved in a sting operation with McVeigh and the folks.
00:38:57.000They knew that he was going to blow up the building.
00:39:01.000They had an informant in there with them.
00:39:03.000uh... i think that in in my case i have fought the government now for almost ten years trying to get to the truth and recently i've come across a couple of memos and i don't know if anyone's ever seen them before that are pretty significant and seem to me to indicate that uh... the government was there and killed my brother because he was John Doe too well he wasn't John Doe too but they thought he was uh... were you aware that police officers and people were killed?
00:39:30.000I've been contacted by a family of an officer that told me Well, we've had the investigating police officers on this show.
00:39:38.000He was called and said, I'm being followed by FBI guys.
00:39:41.000I've got the documents, proven they were involved.
00:40:10.000Well, now, I know that from reading over your documents, you're concerned with the Elohim-City connection.
00:40:20.000Yes, what happened is, before he was executed, Tim McVeigh sent me word that My brother had been killed by the government because they thought he was Richard Lee Guthrie.
00:40:32.000He has remarkable resemblance to Guthrie.
00:40:36.000Okay, well let's, just for people to understand this, tell us about your brother, how he was involved on the periphery of all this.
00:40:45.000I'm not saying involved, I mean, you know, there in the area looking like him, on the periphery, how he got sucked into the black hole.
00:40:52.000Well, what happened is he He had been a bank robber when he was young.
00:40:59.000When he got out of the service, he had been a drug addict.
00:41:02.000And he eventually robbed banks to support that habit, but he went to jail, did his time, fled guilty, got out, married.
00:41:14.000At the time he was picked up, the description that was out for John Doe II was white male, powerful upper body build, 5'9", believed to be in Canada or Mexico, driving mid-1980s Chevrolet pickup, Dragon Tattoo left forearm.
00:41:30.000He came across the border from Mexico in his friend's 1985 Chevrolet pickup, a perfect match down to the Dragon Tattoo on his left arm.
00:41:40.000He's immediately arrested, and for some same region, that was in San Diego, and we never understood why he sent to Oklahoma City, and he's dead two days later.
00:41:48.000So we have the admission that he was in custody.
00:43:07.000Yeah, let me just tell you, I need to get you on the phone with some police officers and investigators I trust, because I'm going to tell you, the Elohim city thing is a rabbit trail.
00:43:19.000There were Iraqi Republican Guard with McVeigh as part of a government so-called terror drill op.
00:43:26.000McVeigh was actually, special forces had gone into covert operations.
00:43:30.000We even have the video, sir, of these people on the ground.
00:43:33.000I'm sure you know there were all those surveillance camera tapes showing all this, and the FBI sees those.
00:43:38.000We've interviewed the police and others that have seen those videos and the FBI has been on record to the LA Times saying, yes, those videos do exist.
00:43:46.000What McVeigh was doing is, he was going around the country to every militia group, going to Waco, saying he was mad about Waco, going everywhere, creating a ledger, creating a history.
00:43:59.000They'll run a covert op, and the people in the covert op think they're part of a drill, or part of surveillance, and then the government actually carries out an operation, and then burns them in the process.
00:44:13.000Well, I'm not familiar with that, but I do know that McVeigh was, at least from those documents, it looks as though he knew those folks at Elohim City.
00:44:21.000And Andre Strassmayer, obviously a government informant, Police were picking him up and then they were ordered to let him go and he went back to Deutschland.
00:44:31.000So yes, just so you know, I know you've been researching this and fighting for your brother just on the case of his obvious murder for a decade.
00:44:39.000My only point is that I think we can give you some information that's pretty concrete that'll help you get the big picture.
00:44:48.000I mean, these photos, it's completely obvious, I mean... He was tortured.
00:44:53.000For those that aren't online, that can't go to Infowars.com, for those that can't link through to some of the news sites that have covered what you're showing, and the memos, describe the photos for us.
00:45:05.000I know it's hard for you to do, sir, but please do that.
00:46:45.000You think it was stupid cowboys in the FBI that didn't know their bosses had pulled off the bombing?
00:46:49.000Or do you think they were trying to get him to reveal if he'd talked to anybody?
00:46:56.000It would be speculation on my part, but I think they were afraid he might be the person they were looking for and they wanted to know what he told anybody.
00:48:32.000So, I mean, it wasn't, this wasn't something where they just explode in rage and kill him.
00:48:37.000This was systematic and this was thought out.
00:48:39.000As I said, the stun gun burns are on its spine.
00:48:42.000Well, you've got in record, though, who picked him up and then where he was transferred to, you at least know the names of the creatures that were frequenting the area.
00:48:50.000Do you have any idea who murdered your brother?
00:49:30.000And if you look at his knuckles, you can see how black and bruised they are.
00:49:33.000I mean, he put up a fight until he was overcome and then tortured.
00:49:43.000And I received a call about six months after he died, an anonymous call that at the time I didn't pay much attention to.
00:49:51.000The caller said, that your brother been killed by the FBI uh... because he made it to the profile and I said what profile he said well of the Midwest bank robbery gang people who were robbing banks to fund the tax against the federal government and of course I thought this was lunacy and I just dismissed it and then uh... about six seven months later I read in the Los Angeles Times where Richard Lee Guthrie uh...
00:50:19.000is found a member of the Midwest Bank robbery gang is found hanging in his cell just like my brother while in federal custody and under the custody of the FBI.
00:50:30.000Mr. Jones I had one eyewitness to my brother's murder.
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00:54:15.000Jesse Trentadu, brother of a man who was obviously murdered. - Thank you.
00:54:22.000You know, I would have to tell you, Jesse, and I'm going to have to talk to some of the police that investigated all this.
00:54:28.000And again, they killed cops, they killed a lot of people who were on to what really happened.
00:54:35.000A lot of people got killed and got threatened who had been in and around McVeigh who could point to the fact that he was a government agent.
00:54:43.000Now, I'm not saying your brother was involved in all this, but your brother's coming across the border out of Mexico, into San Diego, he gets picked up, he gets taken up there, this happens to him.
00:54:58.000I don't think that if they thought he was really involved in the bombing, they would have killed him.
00:55:01.000They'd go, oh look, we got the big prize!
00:55:49.000We're scheduled to go to trial in Oklahoma against the FBI, and then a month before the trial was to start, he's suddenly found hanging in his cell.
00:56:01.000He'd been threatened about eight months before, and we tried to get an order from the judge to protect him, but the judge wouldn't give the order.
00:56:07.000Well, you know, the government's had problems doing this en masse, because they only have special teams of people that enjoy killing like this, but who can rationalize it.
00:56:16.000But all the shows like Threat Matrix and 24 and CSI, they all promote torture.
00:56:21.000The good guys torture people to death almost every episode.
00:56:42.000The guy that wants Arnold to be president?
00:56:44.000Hatch had gone publicly... He's my senator.
00:56:47.000Has publicly... Yeah, if there's anything evil, he's a bottomless pit.
00:56:51.000He has deliberately kept the Judiciary Committee from inquiring into my brother's murder, the Oklahoma City bombing, anything that relates Yeah, I know.
00:57:01.000He will not let any hearings take place on it.
00:57:04.000I mean, he appears just like everywhere at once.
00:58:03.000Well, my purpose in suing the FBI now is to get the documents they claim.
00:58:08.000One of the things, and I don't know if I said to you, Mr. Jones, that we discovered in this fight is a secret FBI file called the iDrive.
00:58:17.000And I'll send you that information too, but the FBI has a file called the iDrive where they keep all the evidence and other material they don't want anybody to know about.
00:58:25.000So it doesn't go into, if they do an investigation and there's something that's important that hurts their case, it doesn't go into the official file, it goes into the iDrive where it remains hidden forever.
00:58:36.000And they have thousands of pages in the Oklahoma City iDrive on me and my brother.
00:58:41.000And no one's ever seen Stay there, sir.
00:58:45.000I think your case is a key piece of the puzzle.
00:59:51.000We're going to talk about both of these cases.
00:59:54.000For stations that just joined us, though, why don't you recap in a maybe two-minute nutshell what we're talking about here.
01:00:03.000Well, my brother Kenneth Michael Trinity was murdered in August of 1995 in Oklahoma City.
01:00:08.000He was murdered by the federal government.
01:00:11.000He was murdered because they thought he was involved with the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:00:15.000I have recently come across a couple of secret FBI memoranda They'd indicate that they had an informant in with McVeigh, and knew in advance that he was going to blow up the Murrow building.
01:00:29.000They'd of course denied those documents existed.
01:00:33.000Yeah, and they've got the Salt Lake City Tribune here saying local media says they've got copies, people say it's real, but you want the whole document through a FOIA request, but they're denying that, but then they say, well, where did you get your document?
01:02:00.000Locked up 24 hours a day in a remote part of the facility.
01:02:03.000Yeah, McDougal said he was going to blow the whistle on Clinton and it was even in the Fort Worth newspaper that a helicopter landed, FBI guys walked in, spent an hour in the solitary, left and he was found dead the next morning.
01:02:16.000Boy, I tell you, I hope I'm never in one of these jail cells and these guys come up on me.
01:02:54.000Man, they'll have some informant with a rap sheet ten feet tall and then they'll try to just have him point the finger at you for anything, won't they?
01:03:02.000That's a person I'd never known, never spoke to, never written, never communicated with in any way.
01:03:06.000Well, there's a special area of hell reserved for those that bear false witness.
01:03:28.000It came out in Boston that they actually ran the Mafia, ran the murder for hire, and then would kill innocent people that stood up against them.
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01:07:16.000I think that most of the FBI are compartmentalized, investigating bank robberies, white-collar crime.
01:07:30.000But when you get into the intelligence arms of it, the anti-terrorism arms of it, and then you get into certain cities and the organized crime investigation arms, they just become the organized crime.
01:07:40.000And this has been going on, this happens in almost every other country, bad people get into positions and they put bad people under them, and in just a few years, a few decades, you get a thoroughly rotten organization.
01:07:52.000And clearly, folks, the FBI ran the bombing of the World Trade Center in 93, that's admitted, that's public.
01:07:59.000Uh, they cooked a bomb, trained the driver, the informant said, let's bust him.
01:08:56.000We're joined by Colonel Craig Roberts.
01:08:59.000Craig's obviously a best-selling author, Marine Corps sniper, police officer, helicopter pilot, SWAT team commander, whole nine yards, good friend of mine, Nobody knows more about Oklahoma City than the man we're about to talk to.
01:09:14.000And I just called him out of the blue to get him on here.
01:09:17.000Let me just... It's okay with you, Mr. Trentadue, if I bring on Colonel Roberts?
01:10:02.000Well, you know, there's been so many deaths around the Oklahoma City bombing since then, but you're talking about Terence Yakey.
01:10:08.000Terry Yakey was the... Top of the year!
01:10:11.000Sergeant, who was police officer of the year in Oklahoma City.
01:10:15.000He was one of the first two guys in the building.
01:10:17.000He was just a couple of blocks away when the bomb went off, or bombs went off, and The things that he saw inside the building disturbed him so much that he kept trying to report to the department, to the FBI, and so on.
01:10:32.000He said, leave it alone, go with the official version, keep your mouth shut, mind your own business.
01:10:37.000He wouldn't do that, and a few months later, they found him dead out in the field, declared it a suicide, no matter about all of the damage that was done to the body, all the cuts on the wrist and the inside of the elbows, the two slash marks on the jugular veins on the throat, he'd been beaten up, he'd been wearing handcuffs, And he was shot from the top right of his skull down to his left cheek with a small caliber weapon that left very little powder residue, which means there was a silencer involved.
01:11:02.000And then, right before, the last time he talked to anybody, he'd gone to a storage shed.
01:11:11.000Well, he said that they had broken into his apartment, they'd broken into his car, but he still had everything, all of his notes and everything, and other material, whatever that was, in a briefcase.
01:11:21.000That he was taken out to a storage, uh, a mini storage he had, uh, it was either a Yukon or El Reno.
01:11:25.000I can't remember which it was right now.
01:11:27.000And, uh, that he was talking to a friend on the phone.
01:11:29.000He said, when I get back, we'll have dinner as soon as I can shake these feds that are following me.
01:11:32.000And he told them that there was two guys in a white sedan that had been following him.
01:11:36.000Now, again, a highly decorated officer, tough guy, well-known, well-loved on the force.
01:11:41.000Uh, obviously, these were just common street thugs.
01:11:45.000They obviously had flashed their badges to get him in the vehicle.
01:11:48.000Uh, they, well, They somehow got him pulled over and got the car off onto a side road off of I-40 near the El Reno Reformatory, about a mile from the El Reno Reformatory where McVeigh was being held at the time.
01:12:02.000And his body was found the next morning out in the middle of a field, a half a mile from the car, across the creek and through a barbed wire fence.
01:12:08.000And he'd obviously run from them, yeah.
01:12:10.000Yeah, and they caught up with him and they beat him up and, you know, they evidently had handcuffs on him as well because the, uh, not the people who did the autopsy.
01:12:17.000Don, how do they get these guys, I mean, these feds to kill cops?
01:13:59.000Well, you know, the rumor is that a A prison reaction team, or SWAT team, went in there, beat him up, killed him, and framed him to look like a suicide.
01:14:09.000There was blood all over the walls, according to the Oklahoma City Medical Examiner.
01:14:13.000You know, if you're going to commit suicide, you don't get your blood all over the walls.
01:14:18.000Now, there really wasn't any place to hang himself in there.
01:14:21.000I mean, that bed sheet thing, that was so fabricated, it was ridiculous.
01:14:24.000But I mean, on Officer Yakey, did you ever determine why they cut his throat?
01:14:27.000Well, there was a slash mark on each side of his neck.
01:14:34.000There was a slash mark on each jugular vein, probably two to three inches long, according to the autopsy diagrams.
01:14:41.000And he had like three cuts on one wrist, four on the other, four inside one elbow, three inside the other elbow, and then one on each side of his neck.
01:15:16.000I've already talked to some medical examiners about it.
01:15:18.000This is an obvious homicide made to look like a suicide.
01:15:21.000You guys need to go back and look at this.
01:15:23.000I got back a one-page, very nasty letter to mind my own business.
01:15:29.000So, cops don't get too mad about cop killing if the establishment's doing it.
01:15:35.000Actually, I went down to Oklahoma City and I met with about eight police officers.
01:15:38.000I know the ground level ones are angry, but... You know, they're mad, but their deal is, hey, I've got to feed my family, and the brass are running the show, and if I get involved in this, the same thing's going to happen to me.
01:15:48.000But you know that attitude's what gives us slavery.
01:15:51.000I mean, if we all started standing up, there's nothing they could do.
01:16:38.000It was a transfer center where they hold you temporarily to move you on to someplace else.
01:16:42.000What is really hard to understand is how a place like that would have individuals in there that could go in and do this because they were hiring for this place.
01:16:52.000I mean, most of the people who worked there were fairly new employees and you weren't going to talk these guys down in there to do that.
01:16:57.000You had to have somebody coming from outside to do this.
01:17:03.000The rumor, you know, and there's nothing to verify it, and I like to work with fact, but supposedly he had overheard something that had to do with the Oklahoma City bombing and wanted to talk to somebody about it.
01:17:18.000And if that's even true, I don't know.
01:17:20.000But that's where his name popped up in the Oklahoma City case.
01:17:23.000Now, one of our team members was David Hoffman, who wrote the book, Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror, which Buck Revell sued and had the publisher destroy all the copies that hadn't already been sold.
01:17:36.000But he, I think in that book, he even talked about the Trinidou case.
01:17:39.000Because he was talking about all the different people who had died.
01:17:41.000Well, also, then the guy that they finally found four years later, who'd gotten in contact with Trinidou's brother, who we've got on with us right now, then he kills himself a month before it goes to trial.
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01:22:49.000I've been talking to Colonel Roberts, Craig Roberts, during the break, and obviously there's some things he can't talk about on air, but off during the break, and obviously there's some things he can't talk about on air, but off air, he'll be able But clearly, it's what I surmise.
01:23:13.000It's not just that he looks like John Doe No.
01:24:06.000Well, I would I just like justice for my brother's death.
01:24:14.000And I think the only way I'll get it is to help from folks like you, sir, to get this story out there to your audience and have them stand up.
01:24:23.000And as you said, if everyone stood up to the government, we wouldn't have a problem.
01:24:27.000It's letting things like this go on and not speaking out.
01:24:31.000You know, contacting Hatch and screaming, contacting your senators, just forcing enough embarrassment on these people until they finally have to do something.
01:24:40.000I mean, they just sweep these things under the rug all the time.
01:24:44.000Hey, look, I got BBC and AP where they literally dump, they grab people's children, CPS does, and then they test pesticides on them until they die.
01:24:56.000Colonel Roberts, people I don't think realize how much evil is actively going on, do they?
01:25:01.000Well, you know, if you get my book, The Medusophile, it's case after case after case after case of this stuff, and, you know, Satan's out there and he's working through these people and they have no qualms about doing these things.
01:25:12.000Just the section alone on government guinea pigs from before World War II all the way up to present with the MKUltra stuff.
01:25:20.000Look at the Finders case where they were using children to do pornography so that they could blackmail politicians in Washington D.C.
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01:32:10.000And to know that they go grab cops, you know, cop of the year, and torture him to death and kill him.
01:32:17.000And it's just anything for power and control and they get off on it.
01:32:20.000Coming up here in a few minutes we're going to have John Moore, another great patriot on the show, to give us his view on the New World Order.
01:32:34.000We were just talking during the break, and we have better radio during the breaks when we're on air, and I was about to let you go, but in a nutshell, I was asking, man, how are these people so evil?
01:32:42.000Because, you know, most people that are corrupt just rationalize what they're doing, but these psychopaths that can do this to children, and people chained down, and to cops, and they're in positions of power, I mean, and then you really boiled it down nicely, Colonel.
01:33:09.000And it was always a mystery to me how anybody could be that way and just have no qualms about doing bad things or shooting somebody or killing them or torturing them or whatever.
01:33:19.000In fact, some of them even enjoyed it.
01:33:21.000And when I was working on the Kennedy assassination thing, I spent a few days with Marina Oswald, who's named now Marina Porter, And Lee Harvey Oswald's widow, and she was telling, she's a very nice lady, and she was telling me that when she was in Russia, she asked her grandmother, who was some kind of a clairvoyant or something and psychic or whatever, and why there were such evil people in Russia that could take you to the gulags and shoot you and torture you and do all of these things without any qualms whatsoever, without any compunction.
01:33:48.000And her grandmother said, there are people who have no soul and they work for the devil.
01:33:53.000And she said that she could look at people and look in their eyes and see that the spark of goodness wasn't there and that these were people who wouldn't think twice about doing anything to anybody, including their own family.
01:34:04.000And for lack of a better explanation, I've run into people that way.
01:34:09.000I've put them in jail and I could look in their eyes and tell if they could get my gun, they'd have shot me in the heart right then.
01:34:17.000So they're out there and I think that there's ways that they can either screen and recruit these people, you know, find them and put them into special operations type assignments or whatever, or they can program people to be that way to a certain extent.
01:34:32.000Uh, by doing the Manchurian Candidate Deal and blocking out any emotions and telling them the mission comes first and it's for the good of the country.
01:34:38.000Well, Pentagon came out in Wired Magazine last year and said that their head futurist, they're actually already drugging the special forces in Afghanistan and giving them amnesiacs and testing this on them.
01:34:49.000You know, when you read my book, The Medusaphile, and you go into the government guinea pig section, and you see all of the things that they've tried on people.
01:34:56.000This is our own government doing this stuff.
01:34:57.000This is the Technical Services Division of the CIA and other organizations who've gone into things on MKUltra and Clear Eyes and all of these other operations and projects where they've tried to find out if they could create actual Manchurian candidates, programmed assassins, trained killers, super-souls.
01:35:13.000When you were in the Sniper Corps in Vietnam, and I'll, in a minute, I'll ask John Moore this, Uh, I mean when you're in there, I mean obviously were there those people who were in it just because they like to kill and and and and and who were actually enjoying it?
01:35:35.000Everybody that was in sniper duty Had some type of a motivation to be able to justify a shot that you can look right up and see a guy's face before you squeeze the trigger.
01:35:44.000Unlike, you know, standard infantry where you shoot at shadows in the bushes and you don't know if you hit anything or not.
01:35:51.000You know you're going to end some mother's son's life right there as soon as you squeeze the trigger at 2,800 feet per second.
01:35:56.000For me, my personal motivation, or my personal excuse, or the way I justified my shots is I hated them.
01:36:04.000I hated every VC I saw and wanted to kill everyone I could get in my sights because of what they had done to some of my fellow Marines and what they had done to some of the unarmed, peaceful villagers that they had tortured.
01:36:13.000I saw those things prior to going to sniper school.
01:36:15.000There were other guys who couldn't take the shot.
01:36:17.000They did the training, they got out in the field, and as soon as they saw the face, they couldn't take the shot.
01:36:23.000But there were some that became very numb to it.
01:36:31.000They looked like Orientals, so that really didn't count.
01:36:34.000There's all kinds of ways to justify it mentally, but we didn't have anybody that I personally knew that said, I want to stay in Vietnam and kill everybody I can because it's fun.
01:37:12.000John, that's a good way to start this interview.
01:37:14.000Of course, John Moore first fought terrorism in 1967.
01:37:18.000He is still fighting it today and walking patrol in Vietnam at night alone.
01:37:22.000He searched for the terrorist bombs in the jeep and saw what happened to those who did not find them.
01:37:29.000And he flew 57 combat missions over Vietnam and Cambodia, many of those being hit by enemy gunfire.
01:37:36.000And of course then a police officer, private investigator, special operations, covert operations, psychological operations, undercover operations, surveillance operations, bodyguard for executives.
01:37:47.000For stars like Jane Fonda, Charlton Heston, Private Investigator, Firearms Instructor, Intelligence Analyst, Homicide Detectives, these are some of the jobs he's done.
01:37:55.000Great to have you on the website, TheLibertyMan.com.
01:38:00.000I mean, I'm sure you heard some of our discussions here.
01:38:03.000How do they have feds that'll go grab an Oklahoma City cop who's exposing government involvement and torture him to death?
01:38:11.000I mean, where are they finding these type of people?
01:38:15.000Law enforcement has always attracted people who enjoy exercising power over others.
01:38:23.000And frequently, depending on the situation, frequently those kind of people will stick around in situations where other individuals who don't enjoy exercising power will leave and not make it their career.
01:38:39.000The worst examples are probably in the penal system where you've got guards and people involved in the penitentiaries.
01:38:49.000More likely than not, that's where you're going to find people who really enjoy exercising control and power over other individuals, even more so than regular law enforcement.
01:39:02.000So, I mean, most of your cops aren't bad people, but I guess what you're saying is some of the bad sick apples stick to it, and then kind of the evil people above them position them in positions of power?
01:39:13.000Don't fool yourself, Alex, and I know you know this, and this is an educated audience.
01:39:18.000At the very top levels, there is true evil.
01:39:22.000And people like Janet Reno, for example.
01:39:25.000People who can take Well-meaning police officers manipulate and massage what these individuals are doing, who have good intent.
01:39:35.000And it's fairly easy to take a gung-ho, patriotic FBI agent and only tell them what you want them to know.
01:40:21.000They weren't involved in the illegal drugs or any of these other things.
01:40:25.000And that's the way you take otherwise honest men, otherwise men who would not do these horrendous things, and get them to do horrendous things, is you exclude the truth.
01:40:37.000You only tell them what you want to know.
01:40:40.000I mean, a lot of these Nazi officers would work 80 hours a week, wouldn't steal a nickel from the Reich, would, you know, charge machine gun nests, and then they'd be more than happy to blow toddlers' heads off.
01:40:53.000Well, one of the things that you can count on in any war, Alex, is that there will be atrocities.
01:40:58.000I've heard it said, and I agree with it, there is no more barbaric person on the planet of the earth than an 18-year-old farm boy from Iowa who is in the U.S.
01:41:07.000Marines, given the right circumstances.
01:41:12.000Under the right circumstances of seeing your buddy's brains blown all over the front of your uniform becomes something you would never dream that you would be otherwise.
01:41:22.000Is that why the globalists love to be running dozens of peacekeeping operations at any one time?
01:41:26.000Running checkpoints, grabbing people, setting up Abu Ghraibs, setting up Waco's?
01:41:31.000I've heard a lot of top analysts say these are really old mini war games to test and perfect out a core of people that'll do whatever they're told.
01:41:40.000Well, let me give you a heads up on that.
01:41:41.000I just finished a nationwide speaking tour the last two weeks of October, speaking on terrorism.
01:41:50.000This is from a reliable source who I would trust my life with.
01:41:53.000He was in Bosnia on a tour of duty for a year.
01:41:58.000He spent a lot of his time doing liaison with the Russian Spetsnaz.
01:42:03.000Now, the Spetsnaz over there speak English with the neutral Nebraska accent.
01:42:09.000They have, and routinely wear, American combat uniforms.
01:42:13.000And off-duty, after hours, over a glass of vodka, they would boast that what they were doing in Bosnia, this is the Russian Spetsnaz, what they were doing in Bosnia was training in preparation for what they'd be doing in the United States.
01:42:27.000Well, Colonel Roberts has been there and his family has been there at the academy just a few years ago where they say we're going to use foreign assets here.
01:42:35.000I saw you and General McKenzie on Nightline the week after 9-11 say we're going to have foreign troops in America.
01:42:41.000Now they use them to put out wildfires in 99.
01:42:45.000They have the NATO AWACS, the Norwegian F-16s, the cooperative nugget drills.
01:42:51.000I've been to the training drills where our Marines train with foreign troops openly for domestic takeover operations.
01:42:57.000Absolutely, and you know why they're using Marines and not the Army?
01:43:02.000Now, only less than 1% of the adults in this country are aware of what we're talking about because they listen to the shortwave and they do their research.
01:43:11.000The other 99%, given a bad enough circumstance, Alex, specifically nuclear attacks in one or two or more cities, most Americans, 99% of the adults in this country, Believe that the Russians and the Chinese are our allies, our friends, and they will welcome them with open arms to help restore order, make things normal so they can go to work, pay their mortgage, and have a six pack of beer and watch football.
01:43:47.000I mean, what I see happening is 9-11 was just to set up the police state, to set up the mechanisms, you know, to load the round into the chamber, and that the nuclear attack or bio-attack is going to be pulling the trigger.
01:44:04.000You and I have both been around this Patriot movement enough to have heard men say, well, one of those blue-helmeted Foreign troops come down the street, I'm on a kick butt and take names.
01:44:28.000Russia, admittedly, has giant fake cities where they teach them this.
01:44:33.000Like I say, and this is another heads up, to teach a native-born Slavic-speaking person Russian, the Russian language is a Slavic language, I have friends who grew up speaking Slavic languages.
01:44:45.000The only way to teach them to speak English with a Nebraska-neutral accent is to start when they're five years old, Alex.
01:44:52.000Which means they do a diagnostic procedure in kindergarten for five-year-olds to pick out who, thirteen, fourteen years in the future, will be the best athletes, will be the brightest young men, who will jump out of airplanes in the middle of the night and kill people.
01:45:09.000And they start teaching them English at that point.
01:45:12.000So, by the time they're 18, they speak English with no accent whatsoever.
01:45:20.000And for people who think this is all a joke, our government is totally run by the European Union now.
01:45:26.000They're going to open the door for this.
01:45:30.000Well, I don't know how much control they exercise, but there was a presidential directive signed by Clinton, which turned over, and it's still secret by the way, Turned over operational control of our forces to the United Nations.
01:45:44.000There's been some declassified summaries released which are very disturbing.
01:45:49.000There is in fact... Well then it's not PDD-60 that will absorb a nuclear attack.
01:46:23.000I mean, when the Army said we need 400,000, they said, no, we need 150,000.
01:46:26.000I mean, obviously, they know that the tactics they're using over there are meant to backfire.
01:46:32.000Actually, our top generals in the Pentagon wanted about a quarter of a million troops to do what's being done over there right now with half that many.
01:46:40.000I think the answers lie in several The book I'm in the middle of right now is Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Rupert.
01:46:49.000I think you can find some answers in there.
01:46:51.000It's too simplistic just to say oil, although oil is obviously part of it.
01:46:59.000The politics behind oil are complex and almost beyond human imagination.
01:47:07.000But you need to do some research and study to really figure out the motivations behind what's going on in Iraq.
01:47:14.000Or go to the PNAG documents where Dick Cheney said it's about oil, but it's mainly about having a military base to invade other countries, and then America plays the part of the bad cop, Europe plays the part of the good cop.
01:47:49.000I was a 20 year old corporal working in military intelligence in the fall of 1967.
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01:48:05.000I saw during the fall of 1967 a couple of things.
01:48:11.000Army was not preparing to deal with any kind of major offensive whatsoever.
01:48:15.000Second, we had Westmoreland making a speech before a joint session of Congress in December 1968, saying the Viet Cong are a defeated enemy, they can no longer mount an effective Battle on the battlefield.
01:49:30.000He really was a Roosevelt type of Democrat where he wanted to create all these social programs and conduct the war at the same time and not get Russia and China upset with us.
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01:54:35.000John, you want to get into something that's near and dear to my heart, and everybody should be concerned about it, the coming mass terror attacks.
01:54:43.000It's not a question of if, but when, the Globalists have told us.
01:54:47.000In kind of a thumbnail sketch, what are we going to be covering in the next hour?
01:54:52.000Alex, what we're going to cover is, first of all, emphasizing to all the listeners that we don't need to dwell too much on the nuances of which entity would be behind it.
01:55:05.000It's kind of fun, but it really serves no purpose.
01:55:08.000And concentrate on these attacks will be happening and what people need to do to get prepared because the government won't be there to take care of them.
01:55:18.000Yeah, even if people believe that Al-Qaeda is real and operates alone and does this from a cave, it's still going to have the same effect.
01:55:26.000The government's still doing nothing to really protect you, leaving the borders wide open and taking your rights and prosecuting people for Rubik's Cubes and complaining to the VA and pot dealing.
01:55:38.000They're obviously using it for a New World Order.
01:55:45.000I mean, you talk about which group, debating all day who exactly runs it all.
01:55:50.000Well, the water cooler talk, as we sometimes refer to it around the lettered agencies, is nuclear weapons, not dirty bombs, but real nuclear weapons being discharged in major American cities.
01:56:02.000That's what the water cooler talk is in the agencies.
01:56:05.000And the speculation is on, first of all, how many of these devices are, and, of course, the big question is when would they be discharged, which if anybody has that information they haven't told me.
01:56:19.000Nuclear weapons, Alex, are the true weapons of mass destruction.
01:56:24.000They would cause the greatest amount of terror in the quickest period of time.
01:56:30.000Granted, these biological weapons, especially these cocktail mixes the Russians have developed, are absolutely devastating and some of them approach 100% lethality.
01:56:42.000With a chemical, you get tens of thousands.
01:56:44.000With a super bio, hundreds of thousands.
01:57:22.000What the Russians will do is mix different things, plague and cholera and smallpox, for example, into a cocktail, and you really can't tell what you've got, and you're dead before Yeah, stay there.
01:58:12.000The globalists want bigger terror to re-engineer our society forever.
01:58:17.000The day the suitcase nukes go off in cities like Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, some of the cities listed by the Globalist, and the day those go off is the day America dies because they've set up a system to totally take your liberties and freedoms when that happens.
01:58:34.000It has nothing to do with stopping terrorism.
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01:59:13.000J.R., laying out the threats we face, and as you said, the government isn't there to protect us, aren't going to protect us, can't protect us.
01:59:23.000Well, I say it because the mission statement of FEMA is much different than the old civil defense that they took the place of.
01:59:31.000The mission statement of civil defense was to provide facilities including shelters, stocked with food, medical supplies, cots, and blankets to take care of the citizens of this country.
01:59:42.000The mission statement of FEMA is to guarantee the continuity of government.
01:59:48.000That's their primary mission statement.
01:59:50.000Now they will come in and provide training to state and local governments, but they don't really have the resources that civil defense used to.
02:00:00.000But really, that's just training them how to be federalized.
02:00:49.000Even something like a major hurricane will stretch all the resources of the entire country to the breaking point, and that's a very limited regional event.
02:00:59.000Anything that takes place over a widespread area involving several states and hundreds of thousands, perhaps several million people, the resources simply aren't there, Alex.
02:01:10.000Well, with the depression, with 90% of the public knowing how to garden or ranch or farm, and people being very moral, we had almost complete breakdown in starvation.
02:01:20.000Today, with the spoiled yuppie population that knows how to watch Fear Factor but doesn't know how to tie their shoelaces, we're looking at total breakdown.
02:01:29.000I do a lot of preparedness training, and whenever I'm working with a client, a female client under the age of 40, especially under the age of 30, the topic of her husband or her boyfriend comes up almost without exception.
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02:01:48.000The young men today grow up not having the skills that were common and routine for young men growing up in this country 30 years ago.
02:02:09.000I mean, I'm proficient with firearms and know how to farm and ranch, and I know how to screw in a light bulb, but I'm not very technical, and my dad can basically fix anything because he grew up on a farm.
02:02:21.000Well, farmers have the skills, and most of farming involves equipment, maintenance, and repair.
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02:06:06.000Last year, when they had the blackouts in the eastern area of the country, even spanning into Michigan, just for a day, Society almost unraveled.
02:06:18.000Now, think about people in these mega cities of 10 million, 5 million people.
02:06:25.000Even if you knew how to work on a car, you can't work on the new cars made in the last 10 years.
02:06:31.000People don't even know the basics of survival.
02:06:34.000The grocery stores have got 2-3 days maximum of food on them.
02:07:04.000And it went from yuppies, and they were the most industrialized, wealthy country in Latin America, almost as wealthy as we are, on average, and literally there were Washington Post articles describing a tractor-trailer tumbling over with cows, and the former middle class running up with crude knives, grabbing globs of raw meat, chopping it off, cramming it in their mouths.
02:07:29.000Again, in the Depression, 90% of people had skills.
02:07:33.000Now, I've got more skills than most people my age.
02:07:36.000I don't have very many skills compared to my father, who literally had to fix combines and work on tractors and roof houses and lasso cows.
02:07:50.000We have turned into a bunch of jellyfish, and the globalists are feeding into this, building these complex, compact cities for control, and then doing nothing to protect us from the threat of terrorism, actually fostering it and pushing it.
02:08:05.000Our expert we have in-house with us, John Moore, expert on terrorism, and what do you see happening if those three nukes go off in our cities?
02:08:13.000What will happen in the first week, then the first month, and then what will America look like in a year?
02:08:28.000Cook County and all the surrounding counties, there would be martial law declared immediately in those counties.
02:08:35.000Let's talk about the type of nuke we'd be looking at, too.
02:08:37.000If it was a suitcase and it detonated at ground zero, what would be the blast radius of that?
02:08:42.000The suitcase nuclear could take out about a city block.
02:08:45.000It could be downtown, it could be in the suburbs, but the complete devastation would be about one city block.
02:08:52.000With another eight to ten city blocks sustaining a lot of damage, and another radius beyond that where there would be high radiation and some damage.
02:09:03.000Now, you're looking at a device that could be as small as a soccer ball to do that.
02:09:10.000Now, if they were able to have a suicide pilot get up at a couple thousand feet and airburst it, we'd be looking at ten times the damage.
02:09:19.000The damage on the ground wouldn't be as great, but the radiation would be spread out a bit more in terms of the instant radiation.
02:09:29.000The groundburst would put more particulate up in the air.
02:09:34.000That would become radioactive and of course that would spread out over a wide area.
02:09:38.000You're more of an expert on this than I am in military intelligence, so you're saying that an airburst, because I've always read from experts that an airburst would be worse.
02:09:52.000If you've got a 20 megaton or a 50 megaton device, your airburst could be 1,000 feet above ground level and have a much greater devastation in terms of knocking down buildings.
02:10:08.000The smaller device, which a suitcase nuclear is sometimes referred to, can only be 1 to 5 kilotons, which is no small thing.
02:10:17.000It would destroy, like I said, a city block and throw up all the dirt and debris it threw up in the air would all become radioactive.
02:10:25.000That doesn't happen as much in an air burst.
02:10:28.000Yeah, you don't have it binding with the surrounding metals.
02:10:31.000Well, the radioactivity has... something has to become radioactive.
02:10:50.000In a densely populated area, that's a possibility.
02:10:53.000Now, if, and like I mentioned, the martial law would be declared instantly for a radius of the immediate county and the surrounding counties.
02:11:02.000Now, if a second one went off a week later, or a day later, you'd probably see nationwide martial law declared at that point.
02:11:09.000And by then you'd already see the stock market completely tank?
02:11:15.000Yes, at some point, especially if it went off in Manhattan, of course.
02:11:21.000Manhattan, of course, and something to keep in mind, this is part of what I point out to my audiences, Alex, if it's truly an Arabic terrorist event, as opposed to some other contrived event, there's two audiences.
02:11:36.000The first audience, of course, is the American audience and the American economy.
02:11:42.000Terrorize Americans and hurt the American economy.
02:12:35.000All those targets that you mentioned can be recognized in the most remote village with no electricity and dirt roads in these Islamic countries.
02:12:45.000To have one go off in Springfield, Missouri would serve no purpose as far as that second audience because these Islamic people don't know what Springfield, Missouri is or where it is.
02:12:58.000Now, and then again, even if the globalists were behind this, they also in their P2OG plan want to stir up and create an Islamic Jihad, so even if it was the globalists doing it, which that's what we're looking at here from all the evidence, it would also probably be the same target as well.
02:13:15.000Absolutely, it would fit that profile.
02:13:49.000And, of course... Well, let's extrapolate out, then, from what we know FEMA will do and what others will do, how this extrapolates out to the public preparation for foreign troop occupation.
02:14:01.000The public will demand and the government will be expected to restore order, to have If there's rioting as a result, for example, of these events, whether it's contrived rioting or spontaneous rioting, we had contrived rioting in LA after the Rodney King verdict.
02:14:19.000People will want and people will expect the government to restore order and whatever it takes.
02:14:23.000If it takes Russian troops or Chinese troops on the street corners so people can go to work, pay their mortgage, and pick up a steak and a six-pack of beer on the way home, they will accept that.
02:14:34.00099% of the people in this country will accept whatever it takes to restore order.
02:14:42.000Again, for those that are listening to this, if they're thinking, Red Dawn, that'll never happen, that's crazy, our government won't let this happen.
02:14:48.000Well, the people that own and run this government, whether it's Bush or Kerry, they're just puppets.
02:14:52.000The globalists really have been making these preparations.
02:14:54.000I mean, now we've got the EU taking over for NATO in countries all over the world.
02:15:00.000Well, NATO, of course, is part of the United Nations.
02:15:03.000And the EU is becoming very, very strong.
02:15:06.000What we're going to end up with, Alex, is ten regions of ten countries.
02:15:11.000And of course the EU is becoming the biggest and most important one.
02:15:15.000The one comprising China and India is up and coming and certainly a huge economic area as well.
02:15:27.000What do you see happening a month after the event takes place?
02:15:30.000Because obviously food service, water delivery is going to start breaking down.
02:15:35.000The infrastructure is at risk and here's what I'll explain to people.
02:15:41.000Say you're living in a remote village in West Texas and you might be saying to yourself and your family, well, I'm glad we're not living anywhere near a terrorist target.
02:15:53.000Well, let's say you have a family member who takes a product, let's say Synthroid, which is synthetic thyroid medicine for people who don't have a thyroid.
02:16:05.000There's a factory near Detroit that makes this.
02:16:09.000You're stocking, I should say, your pharmacy out there in West Texas carries a two to four week supply of any given pharmaceutical product for the following two reasons.
02:16:22.000And three, why would you carry a large inventory of stuff that goes bad and costs a lot of money?
02:16:29.000That pharmacy in West Texas, in turn, gets their supplies from a stocking warehouse somewhere within 80 to 100 miles, most likely.
02:16:38.000Who in turn also has a two to four week supply.
02:16:42.000And of course, the stocking warehouse gets their supply from the manufacturer near Detroit.
02:16:49.000All it takes, Alex, for your loved one not to get the Synthroid they need, and I'm just using Synthroid as an example, is for the disruption of any of the following three.
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02:22:07.000This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence.
02:22:17.000It is there that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil.
02:22:23.000The one thing that every man fears is the unknown.
02:22:27.000When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished.
02:22:35.000For the guarantee of their well-being, granted to them by the world government.
02:22:40.000Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberg Conference, EMION France, 1991.
02:22:45.000And they're doing nothing to stop any of this, in fact, engineering it, talking to John Moore.
02:22:50.000John, when we come back the next time, we're going to take some calls, but we have gotten up to the point now of just one example, one medication, one thing.
02:23:00.000And then once things do start breaking down, it really could cause a total breakdown of the society, unless a large enough group of the population had prepared.
02:23:15.000I mean, the government itself has bunkers and food supplies and weapons and all this, but then they discourage cities and counties and individuals doing it.
02:23:23.000It's almost like some kind of sign of being evil if you do.
02:23:36.000I'm still doing this for a living, by the way.
02:23:39.000You separate people addicted to nicotine, for example, from access to tobacco products.
02:23:46.000People addicted to nicotine will do almost anything to gain access to tobacco products.
02:23:52.000People addicted to alcohol will do almost anything they need to do to gain access to alcoholic products.
02:23:59.000We have a large percentage of people in this country with prescription psychoactive drugs of one form or another, who would be cut off from that supply, which gives them the ability to live a somewhat normal life.
02:25:30.000If you want food, tell us who has guns.
02:25:33.000If you want more food, tell us who has other guns.
02:25:37.000That's the way the game is going to be played.
02:25:39.000They will use food as a method of control.
02:25:42.000Well, the UN head over the food program and population program in 97 said in China, she said, we will use food as a weapon and we don't apologize about that.
02:25:53.000And also this obsession with the children.
02:25:56.000We knew about this years before, but then last year, Gannett News Service, Washington Post came out and said, yeah, during an attack, we're going to take all your children from the schools and make you come get them at another location.
02:26:06.000And under a red alert, basically, all your rights are stripped.
02:26:11.000And then now they're running these ad council ads where, talk to your children about what you do during a terror attack.
02:26:34.000Well, they'll be doing it on a selective, limited basis, as they feel the need to, Alex.
02:26:39.000They certainly have the wherewithal to do that.
02:26:42.000They can't do it everywhere at the same time, and I think there are a lot of patriotic sheriffs at the county level who would resist that.
02:26:51.000But the sheriffs who are appointed, which is happening more and more, appointed sheriffs instead of elected sheriffs, they're a lot more likely to do what they're told.
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02:35:57.000Now here's a little green beret trick for people that want to get Debbie's Water Filters that will help.
02:36:04.000This involves filtering creek, pond, or river water.
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02:36:22.000You take a rubber band and a coffee filter and put it around it.
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02:36:54.000It's a lot of fun to be back on the air after being off for several years.
02:36:57.000When I was asked by these people to do this assignment, my first response was to turn it down, keeping in mind the Vietnam War was still going on.
02:37:35.000So I went ahead and accepted the assignment.
02:37:38.000In hindsight, Jane Fonda was led astray by the communists she was hanging around with in France, including her, I don't know if he was her husband or boyfriend at the time.
02:37:50.000A young woman in her mid-twenties who, quite frankly, didn't know what the hell she was getting involved with.
02:37:56.000Anyway, she's since become a Christian, and I hope she's prayed to God for forgiveness.
02:38:24.000Also, it's not in my bio, but I was I had a security detail for former Ambassador Alan Keyes recently, and that was a fun time to be with Ambassador Keyes while he was in St.
02:38:46.000Hi, I have a question about the Oklahoma City bombing, and that is, I don't understand how All these people were complicit in it, but yet Nichols and McVeigh never raised a word with their lawyers about these people.
02:39:03.000I mean, I don't have to be... Well, Nichols said he didn't do it, and McVeigh, I mean, was found by state police drooling, saying, I've got a chip, I've got a chip, with a gun, drooling on the side of the road, and then his doctor was Jolly and West, he admitted him, K-Ultra doctor, I mean, I've made two films about it.
02:39:59.000They thought they were part of some type of terror drill.
02:40:02.000At the same time, you have The BATF showing up a minute and a half after the blast in full bomb gear that takes 20 minutes to put on, telling local police and firemen, who we have in the film, that we were told not to go to work that day.
02:40:51.000I was wanting to ask on a couple of other Patriots, I don't think we mentioned this afternoon, Sybo Edmonds and Colleen Rowley, what's the latest on those two, and are they okay?
02:44:43.000Yeah, and he basically took the commanding officer's word for it and just kind of swept it under the rug.
02:44:48.000And then, of course, the truth came out.
02:44:50.000And any other, you know, anyone but a kept officer like Paul would have been hanged over that.
02:44:56.000But he went on to bigger and better things, of course.
02:44:59.000Mr. Moore, I wanted to ask you, when this, if or when this event occurs, this horrible event we've been talking about, the government is bound to say, well, they shielded this device, there's no way we could detect it.
02:45:15.000With enough lead shielding, you have to be Within just a few feet to be able to find one of these things.
02:45:22.000Let me add something here because I've read what the radiological experts have said and just with the declassified type readers they have in helicopters and things, it supposedly takes massive amounts of lead shielding and then they supposedly have classified new satellite based systems that use a different type of reader that can look through hundreds of feet of stone I mean, so talking about the level of lead shielding you'd need, wouldn't that thus not make it a suitcase nuke?
02:45:48.000I mean, you're talking about something even larger.
02:45:51.000Possibly, but the suitcase nukes would be the weapon of choice because any nuclear device going off would cause massive problems and they're a lot easier to conceal from detection.
02:46:03.000How much lead shielding would that take?
02:46:05.000I don't know if I'm qualified to comment on that, Alex, but it can be done, that's the bottom line.
02:46:11.000What I've gotten from good sources is they've got new devices, and by new I mean decades old, but they're classified that can see every bit of this.
02:46:37.000Last night on KOBI-TV out of Medford, they had a phone-in poll on whether we should amend the Constitution for foreign-born to run for President.
02:46:48.000The result was a stunning 93% rejection.
02:47:22.000The nighttime Neocon host, Mark Williams, made disparaging comments about you, but he replayed your entire interview in the evening for the rest of us to hear.
02:47:48.000Arnold might just be a distraction in order to have some other foreign national become president, like Mikhail Gorbachev, perhaps, or some other person.
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02:53:37.000I happened to tape the last broadcast of Tom Brokaw last night and they were covering the Iraq War and guess what?
02:53:44.000They are going to biometrically scan the people of Fallujah with eye scans and they also made it clear that they were going to shoot to kill anybody that doesn't conform to the law.
02:53:54.000I mean, and they didn't say insurgent.
02:53:55.000They made it clear it was when they let the citizens back into the city to reclaim whatever's left of it.
02:54:18.000So far, the plan is for most of the city's 250,000 residents to return in stages.
02:54:25.000At first, only a few thousand will be let in.
02:54:27.000They'll be fingerprinted, given a retina scan, and then an ID card, which will only allow them to travel around their homes or to nearby aid centers, which are now being built.
02:54:39.000The Marines will be authorized to use deadly force against those breaking the rules.