In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Alex Jones is joined by Larry Pratt, a former KGB spy handler, to talk about all kinds of topics including the Bush administration's anti-Second Amendment policies, the Iraq War, and more!
00:00:46.000For 27 days of the month, I'm still having to consciously remember that it's 2005.
00:00:53.000Coming up in about six, seven minutes, we have one of the former top men at the KGB joining us.
00:01:03.000He was a master spy handler, and I have a lot of interesting questions for this gentleman.
00:01:10.000He'll be joining us from Moscow, so we'll see how the phone connection works, and hopefully this will all go off without a hitch.
00:01:17.000Coming up in the next hour, we have Larry Pratt joining us to talk about, well, Alberto, I love torture, and I hate the Second Amendment, and I love open borders, Gonzalez.
00:01:31.000Because Gonzalez just doesn't want to reauthorize the assault weapons ban.
00:01:51.000I'm sure you've heard of this already.
00:01:52.000Officer threatens to arrest woman for anti-Bush sticker.
00:01:55.000W-A-P-T Channel 16 TV out of Denver, Colorado.
00:02:01.000And then on top of that I have an article here where ten-year-olds arrested as terrorists for drawing stick figures of themselves stabbing a classmate.
00:02:12.000Now it's funny, they can have all these video games where you rip people's guts out and rip and kill women.
00:02:18.000Literally, those are the best-selling games.
00:02:20.000You go around machine-gunning everyone, but you draw a picture of it, you get arrested.
00:02:26.000But back when we were in school, If we drew something like that, they just didn't even pay attention to it.
00:02:34.000I never drew pictures of stabbing classmates, but I drew pictures of army tanks and troops and troops fighting.
00:03:14.000And there were all of the pictures of army tanks and planes.
00:03:20.000Stuff like that, because, you know, he was a little kid right after World War II, but I guess nowadays I'd be arrested, he'd be arrested, we'd all be arrested for drawing what kids draw.
00:03:33.000Plus a lot of news on the Iraq War, a lot of news on the fake election coming up in Iraq, a bunch of different police state developments, a big broadcast lined up for you on this live Thursday edition of the Alex Jones Show.
00:03:47.000The websites are InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, InfoWars.net, JonesReport.com and VirginUtah.com.
00:04:00.000There's a lot of different information on each site.
00:04:02.000We've got three different webmasters working on them, and it's all about giving you a lot of backup, basically mirror sites to go to, but also a lot of different information on the different websites, so we'll be covering that.
00:04:14.000But I can't wait to get into Alberto Gonzalez, that all the neocons are celebrating.
00:04:21.000Well, the rest of the people, Bush, are putting in.
00:04:23.000A bunch of gun-grabbing, open-border promoting, freedom-hating, warmongering, slave-mastering pieces of trash.
00:04:33.000But, better not talk about Gonzales or you're anti-Hispanic.
00:08:43.000When he's not saying he's gonna get Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and half of Colorado and Nevada and half of California.
00:08:54.000He openly says that belongs to Mexico.
00:08:57.000And when he's not saying that he wants your guns, and when he's not saying he wants to torture people, and torture's good, if we torture them up until death, it's not our fault if they die if it wasn't intentional.
00:09:07.000I mean, this guy is an absolute pig monster.
00:09:12.000I mean, it'd be like if we had a Ku Klux Klan leader as our Attorney General.
00:09:16.000Well, I guess we pretty much do with Senator Robert Byrd.
00:09:40.000Here, let me give you some Adolf Hitler records.
00:09:42.000I love listening to Hitler speeches, don't you?
00:09:44.000Oh yes, Arnold, let's give you some Simon Wiesenthal Center awards.
00:09:51.000So it's just the same ridiculous hypocrisy.
00:09:54.000I don't want to hear anybody criticize the Aryan Nations, or anybody criticize the Ku Klux Klan, by the way, which I think are unsavory government-controlled organizations.
00:10:05.000I don't want to hear you criticize them if you're out here lauding Alberto Gonzales.
00:10:10.000And let me ask the Mexican supremacist a question, too.
00:10:13.000Because I know you're out there, I get your hateful emails and stuff occasionally.
00:10:19.000Why is George Bush, you can't get any more waspish than him, Why is George Bush with all his Nazi connections, and his daddy's Nazi connections, and his daddy's Nazi connections, and all of it?
00:10:32.000Why are they supporting Alberto Gonzales?
00:10:35.000Because Wall Street wants to break up America.
00:10:52.000So coming up, we're going to talk about Alberto, I Love Torture, Gonzalez, this horrible new Attorney General, and we've got Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America coming on to expose this creature.
00:11:04.000So you do not want to miss this interview that is coming up in the next hour.
00:11:10.000All right, we have our guest from Russia.
00:11:14.000First time we've had a guest on from Russia.
00:11:16.000We've had him on from Germany and England and Australia and Mexico.
00:11:19.000But first time we've had a guest on from Russia.
00:11:25.000And he's got a bio about 100 feet long.
00:11:29.000And his book, Spy Handler, is the gripping insider eyewitness account of the veteran KGB officer who led the recruitment and running of the United States' most damaging and notorious Cold War spies, the CIA's Aldrich Ames and the FBI's Robert Hanson.
00:11:47.000And he was in the KGB for 40 years, got the Lennon Award, Uh, you name it.
00:11:53.000So we're talking to the master spy handler.
00:11:57.000And, uh, Victor Cherkashian, great to have you on with us.
00:12:39.000And I served in the counterintelligence department for really about 30 years at the time, by the time, or 40 years, I'm sorry.
00:12:53.000And that was the period of the Cold War and the period of confrontation of the intelligence services of the United States and the Soviet Union.
00:13:04.000Now you were a colonel, you were a colonel in the KGB and that's higher than other ranks, I mean that's the equivalent, that's next to the highest level, correct?
00:13:35.000My job was to try to prevent the attempts on the part of the foreign intelligence agencies, including the intelligence of the United States, to penetrate the
00:13:52.000the Soviet Union to undermine the security of the Soviet Union and that was my job through the whole career and that was I had been doing.
00:14:05.000Who would you say was more successful overall in infiltrating the Soviet Union or the United States?
00:14:14.000There have been several publications lately including in the United States, the States certainly, about the activities of the intelligence agencies during the Cold War.
00:14:28.000And in some of those publications, the credit had been awarded to the intelligence of the United States as the winner in the Cold War. the credit had been awarded to the intelligence of the I wouldn't say that because no one won in the Cold War.
00:14:53.000We just, both countries won the most important thing.
00:14:59.000where it prevented the Cold War turning into hot work.
00:15:10.000That was, I think, the most important achievement on both sides.
00:15:15.000As for the intelligence, I'm still of the opinion that the Soviet intelligence was and had been the most effective and the Soviet intelligence was not defeated in the Cold War.
00:15:33.000So you think the biggest achievement was mutually assured destruction and not having a thermal nuclear exchange?
00:15:50.000Sir, again, I want to talk about your book, but I want to get some of my little questions out of the way first, because as is described here in the news, you were one of the top people over recruiting spies in the United States, and I want to go over that, but I've got a few other questions for you, and obviously you're there in Russia under him today, but Vladimir Putin has been I think it's impossible.
00:16:14.000some of the old Soviet forms the regional governors Vladimir Putin has been putting the red star and hammer and sickle back on the tanks back on the uniforms would you say that that the former Soviet Union is rising again and I think it's impossible though I am a strong supporter of the Soviet Union
00:16:36.000I'm I still believe in the potentials of the Soviet Union of the Soviet Union structure and the economy of the Soviet Union but But I understand that there is no way back in the development of mankind and you won't be able to change anything.
00:16:58.000As for the changes that you are observing in Russia these days, I think it's only natural that the government and the president are trying to find the best solutions to the problems arising in the new Russia.
00:17:21.000And we're supporting, we're trying to support the president in that.
00:17:28.000Your current president, Vladimir Putin, obviously was KGB, then FSB, but he was a chief over Uh, Leningrad, it has a different name every few years, but uh, do you know Vladimir Putin?
00:18:46.000What do you think of his New World Order?
00:18:49.000You know, it's a complicated question.
00:18:55.000I think the United States might get into additional trouble with that, but that's up to... You think the United States is going to have some problems with the New World Order?
00:19:10.000Yeah, I think they're already having some problems with it.
00:19:13.000Well, again, we're talking to the author of Spy Handler, Memoir of a KGB Officer, The True Story of the Man Who Recruited Robert Hanson and Aldrich Ames.
00:19:27.000We're about to break, sir, and I want to come back and get into your book itself and your view from the inside of how you recruited these individuals and basically your take on it, okay?
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00:24:22.000And Now, continuing, Mr. Cherkashian, or Colonel Cherkashian, I should say, tell us about your memoir here, and then describe for us, please, about how you recruited Robert Hanson and Aldrich James and others.
00:24:44.000I wouldn't put that question that way.
00:24:47.000I told them that in the profession of intelligence, recruitment is one of the means of bringing the people to understanding.
00:25:03.000And you shouldn't overestimate the role of a person.
00:25:10.000It could be a master spy or a master recruiter.
00:25:17.000The most important part is if a person with the information decides himself, for himself in the first place, to do something he considers to be the right thing to do.
00:25:36.000Without that, you won't be able to get anything.
00:26:30.000I've never had the information we are referring to in the book also because it's taken from the publication after his arrest.
00:26:41.000And the same procedure with Aldrich Ains.
00:26:46.000Believe me that the information sometimes, you don't get the information directly.
00:26:55.000It's information that Just explain to me, I mean, I want to know how this relationship was formed.
00:27:00.000the whole information is coming and well it says here colonel that you are the one controlling them so such a from your book just explain to me I mean I want to know how this how this relationship was formed the relationship usually usually the relationship depends on your of your of your entity if you are friendly
00:27:25.000if you want to help a person if you if you think about him about his security that will make the relation and how'd you feel when they got caught as any normal person distressed and certainly sorry for for that yeah now I bet they didn't find the tip of the iceberg of your spies, did they?
00:27:54.000I bet they didn't find one-tenth of the real moles, though, did they?
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00:33:14.000And this is from the publisher of the book, Spy Handler.
00:33:17.000In this riveting memoir, Cherkashin provides a remarkable insider's view of the KGB's prolonged conflict with the United States, spanning his recruitment through his rising career in the counterintelligence to his prime spot as the KGB's number two man at the Soviet Embassy in Washington.
00:33:35.000Cherkashin's story sheds stark new light on the KGB's inner workings over four decades and reveals new details about its major cases.
00:33:44.000But it was in 1985, known as the Year of the Spy, that Cherkashin scored two of the biggest coups of the Cold War.
00:33:51.000In April of that year, Cherkashin recruited disgruntled CIA officer Aldrich Ames and became his principal handler.
00:33:59.000Refuting and clarifying other published versions, Sherkashian offers the most complete account of how and why Ames turned against his country.
00:34:07.000As with Ames, Sherkashian also reveals new details about Hansen's recruitment and later exposure, as only he can.
00:34:14.000He also addresses the evidence that suggests that there is an undiscovered KGB spy That's what I wanted to raise earlier with him.
00:34:23.000Another Hanson or Ames still at large.
00:34:28.000Spy Handler is a major addition to the Cold War history, hold by one of its key participants.
00:34:34.000And Victor Treccascio, who is a retired KGB colonel, was awarded the prestigious Order of Lenin during his four decades working for the KGB.
00:34:43.000He was stationed at various times in the West during his four decades working for the KGB.
00:34:48.000He was stationed at various times, again, in Germany, India, Australia, Lebanon, Washington, D.C.
00:34:53.000Following his retirement, he began a private security company in Russia, which he still runs.
00:35:27.000Victor Cherkashian, Colonel Cherkashian, continuing, of the Israeli intelligence, British MI6, CIA, who would you say is the most ruthless from your 40 years in the KGB looking out from the inside?
00:35:47.000Who would you say was the most vicious?
00:35:49.000Who used the most vicious tactics, you know, overall?
00:35:57.000That's a very complicated question to answer.
00:35:59.000You know, in the history of all the intelligence services, there have been periods when the intelligence services used ruthless and very severe and different methods.
00:36:19.000I'm not in a position to judge, to be a judge, who was the champion and that.
00:36:28.000In my opinion, every intelligence service has its share in that black, I would say, black business.
00:36:46.000But I mean, certain intelligence agencies are known for using sex.
00:36:49.000I mean, they all do it, but some more than others.
00:36:52.000Some are known just for using flat-out torture, or killing, or, you know, and there's combinations of all of it, but what would you say the KGB's specialty was, and is today, under FSB terms?
00:37:07.000I would say that for the last 30 years, at least, of the existence of the Soviet, even not Soviet, but 40 years of the existence of the Soviet intelligence.
00:37:22.000The people in the intelligence tried to use the most human method, that is friendliness, help and understanding.
00:37:35.000That is, with the methods of the kind you're saying that Using women, blackmail, and all that.
00:37:43.000I think somewhere in the beginning, perhaps, that was a popular method.
00:39:19.000Actually, I was going to say, aren't they some of the most sneaky and vicious?
00:39:28.000I think the British intelligence had the history behind them of different periods and using different methods and they're more experienced.
00:39:44.000So are you saying the British are the slickest?
00:40:36.000A lot of your people in your government today have said that they think Western intelligence agencies could be involved in 9-11, but at the same time members of the FSB and others have gone public.
00:40:48.000And I don't expect you to answer this, but the 1999 bombings where they caught FSB in a fourth apartment and then the FSB said it was just a drill.
00:41:00.000You've got any comments about the use of terrorism by governments to blame it on their enemies?
00:41:07.000I think it's a very dangerous path to step upon.
00:41:13.000And if you do that, then there is a danger that you'll become a terrorist organization yourself.
00:41:24.000Were you aware of Operation Northwoods?
00:41:27.000Uh, that, you know, Kennedy had been a hawk and was doubling military funding, was for the Vietnam War, but then L.L.
00:41:34.000and said, this is now a minute, we have the document, and said, we want to hijack jets, crash them, we want to bomb DC, we want to have US troops dress up like Cubans and attack the Marine Corps base and kill Marines, we want to have sniper attacks in Miami and DC, blame it on the Cubans we want to have sniper attacks in Miami and DC, blame it on the Cubans and then the Russians, and have Kennedy freaked out, called up Khrushchev and said,
00:42:01.000You better back off with this Cuban Missile Crisis stuff or they're going to have a coup and they're going to nuke you and then the Russians kind of pulled back and then of course the military industrial complex here did indeed kill Kennedy.
00:42:44.000I know about those rumors, but I think it's the history where politics We're playing the main part, the main role in the whole story.
00:43:01.000Well, I'm going to be honest with you.
00:43:03.000I think China, Russia, all these countries did horrible things and were run by despots.
00:43:09.000But I'll be honest, our government is run by an even more sophisticated criminal oligarchy.
00:43:13.000We're now shifting into a fascist system where they communalize our wealth and give it to select corporations.
00:43:20.000And our government is taking what the Stasi did, what the Russians did, the worst stuff the Russians did, and actually perfecting it, and is using government-sponsored terror for world empire, and I wanted to get your comment on that.
00:43:35.000I'm glad you understand all that, and I'm sure you'll try to do something about that, to change the situation, for the better of the world, certainly.
00:43:48.000Are you aware that our government is contracting with the former head of the KGB, that they've hired Primakov as a consultant?
00:43:56.000Are you aware that they've even hired as a consultant the Silver Fox?
00:44:01.000Were you aware that they had hired the former head of the Stasi to help them set up their internal passports?
00:44:09.000I know that the United States, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, And the intelligence service of the United States has made a lot to get the access to the information of the Stasi and the rest of the Socialist Republic's special services.
00:44:32.000I know that there have been attempts, and not only attempts, but real moves to establish relations with the Russian intelligence But believe me, this is the influence of the new situation.
00:44:51.000The new situation that dictates the situation when the United States is the prime country in the world.
00:45:02.000The country which is trying to dictate, to impose their Uh, way of life and their priorities in life to other people.
00:45:23.000The corporations that own America are just like the six oligarchs that own Russia today.
00:45:29.000They don't represent the Russian people or the American people, and the intelligence agencies are just their hired corporate enforcers.
00:45:37.000And so when you say America's taking over, no, America's been taken over, and now we're being used as an engine, like Napoleon used France, to take over the planet.
00:46:01.000I know that in Russia we have different systems now where we have the formation of new and completely different to what we had in the Soviet Union, economical structure with the oligarchs, with the influence on the government actually.
00:46:27.000You see, that's what communists were able to point out, is look at these corporations, look at these capitalists, they're bad!
00:46:35.000But that's not the free market, these are just organized criminals, who then parade around calling themselves free market when they actually engineer the government to put all the people's funds into their own coffers.
00:46:46.000And so we've never really had a free market.
00:46:48.000We've had a quasi-free market, and it produced the greatest industrial engine ever seen here in America.
00:46:54.000Now we're going into stagnation, into more of a command and control system, and I think the whole left-right paradigm is a fraud.
00:47:03.000I think what we need now is the KGB in its force until 1991.
00:47:12.000There is the organization that could really get to the point and getting the resources and the human resources to clear up the situation.
00:47:27.000Unfortunately, I'm now a pensioner, and I'm not very keen on politics anymore.
00:47:35.000Well I understand what you're talking about and I do agree in the most part of your discussion.
00:47:45.000But that's something that we have to cope with.
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00:54:47.000You know, I haven't given the phone number out yet, but the phone lines are loaded.
00:54:50.000We got Larry Pratt coming up, but early In that interview, I'll go to your calls, I guess about whatever issue you want to talk about, because Larry Pratt is a fellow patriot, truth seeker, freedom lover, and he's an expert on many different subjects, and it all affects our Second Amendment.
00:55:05.000So all of you that are holding, who called in without me giving out the number, that's fine, we'll go to you.
00:55:34.000There is just so much coming up in the next hour.
00:55:39.000You do not want to miss it on this live Thursday edition.
00:55:43.000Before I continue with the news, and Larry Pratt is coming up, I'm carrying George Humphrey's 9-11-11 film, which is an excellent It's 9-11, The Great Illusion, Endgame of the Illuminati.
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00:59:08.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:12.000You know, I tune in to Neocon talk show hosts every day when I'm out driving around in my car in the morning, the afternoon, the evening.
00:59:24.000And with almost no exception, they go, the evil liberals Why, they're gonna get your guns.
00:59:32.000The evil liberals, they're for open borders.
00:59:34.000The evil liberals, they're for signing on to UNESCO treaties in the UN.
00:59:40.000The evil liberals, they're... And then I go look at Congress, and it's actually Democrats are voting more often than with Bush on most issues than Republicans are.
00:59:52.000Which is why you could still call me a conservative at some level.
00:59:55.000According to the, you know, popular term.
01:00:00.000I mean, I look at... I look at the man who went after Judge Roy Moore in Alabama, who was the Attorney General there.
01:00:07.000Bush promotes him to a federal judgeship.
01:00:09.000I look at Condoleezza Rice, a gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, un-American person.
01:00:14.000I look at Alberto Gonzalez, a member of Mecha La Raza for open borders, for gun control, for torture, helped write the Patriot Acts that attacked the Second Amendment, And, uh, I hear the limbaws of the world going, hail, hail, uh, Alberto.
01:01:40.000Hey, it's good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good N, N, N, N, N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N And N And N So I guess we got the Assaults Ban down for now, but they're back with a vengeance and it's Republicans!
01:01:51.000Well, we have an Attorney General nominee, as you know, Mr. Gonzalez, who volunteered that he really supports gun control in his heart.
01:02:03.000He didn't just say he agrees with his boss that, yeah, if you put the renewal of the Clinton ban on his desk, he'll sign it, and I agree with that, and I'm with my boss.
01:02:13.000No, no, no, he went on to say how much he really supports gun control.
01:02:17.000Hey, that's really wonderful to have the Attorney General, who, after all, Ashcroft was one example, But they all tend to get a crack at litigation that goes up to the Supreme Court on the gun issue.
01:02:32.000And Ashcroft, I think, was on the wrong side.
01:02:36.000There was that Dr. Timothy, oh, golly, I just went brain dead, the Texas physician who got slammed for having a gun from a domestic misdemeanor.
01:02:46.000And that went through the Fifth Circuit, and they ruled fairly well.
01:02:52.000And on appeal of the Supreme Court, they wouldn't listen to the requirement that the Fifth had put on it, that it had to go back and be reheard in court.
01:03:03.000And Ashcroft was there arguing that, no, this didn't violate anybody's Second Amendment rights to have an ex post facto law take away your Second Amendment rights.
01:03:15.000So, that was a pretty significant case, I thought, and it certainly vindicated our not having supported Ashcroft when he was up for nomination, and we're not supporting Gonzales either.
01:03:32.000We'll be right back to go over Gonzales' activities, what we're facing with the Bush administration, The fight has just begun and most conservatives are sucking their thumbs in the corner thinking they've died and gone to heaven.
01:03:47.000Well, no, you've died and gone to hell.
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01:07:44.000So, this is what we're facing right now.
01:07:47.000And whereas Ashcroft, on the surface, said I'm for the Second Amendment if prescribed by law, and then, as Larry Proud was saying, of the Governors of America in the last little segment, he went to federal court time and time again and actually argued against it.
01:08:33.000And Larry Pratt looks like we got some tough going here.
01:08:37.000And I don't even know if most of the conservatives out there know there's a ball game going right now.
01:08:41.000So far, it's been a little lonely in leading the opposition to Mr. Gonzalez.
01:08:49.000In truth, I'm sure Bush is not likely to change his mind on this, but part of it is because he is getting support from the conservatives by and large, and I guess it's because, well, gee, it's a Republican Hispanic.
01:09:04.000Well, he may be a Republican, certainly an Hispanic, but as you've pointed out, He's got a background and it's not as if you have to put your hand over your eyes and say, let me see now, what will the spirit reveal to me?
01:09:39.000But he was part of decisions in the Texas court that were pro-abortion, and he has been associated with these radical Mexican groups that, as far as I can tell, they're not even pro- Spaniard.
01:09:58.000These are the guys that I guess would like to return to cutting your heart out while you're a live victim of their idol worship.
01:10:08.000That's the kind of revangeism that I see coming out of La Raza.
01:10:14.000Actually, we've been to their rallies and they have pictures of blonde-haired, blue-eyed people with their brains blown out or with Aztec warriors cutting their hearts out.
01:10:22.000And 95% of Hispanics I talk to don't like this organization.
01:10:27.000But it just so happens he's a member of that.
01:10:28.000I mean, we could have found lots of Hispanics who would have made great U.S.
01:11:25.000Well, it's not something that pleases me.
01:11:29.000And frankly, with the election of somebody like Mel Martinez, you've got evidence that you don't have to have some kind of left-winger that Hispanics will support.
01:11:41.000Martinez, I thought, was... Well, I was pleasantly surprised when during the campaign he referred to the kidnappers of Elian Gonzalez as jack-booted thugs.
01:11:53.000That's not a real friendly thing to say about Janet Reno, but then Janet Reno was not a real friendly sort of person.
01:12:01.000And he said, well, yeah, I respect the Second Amendment.
01:12:05.000That was what Castro went after in order to take the rest of our liberties away, and that's why I'm a refugee.
01:12:11.000Well, why can't we get somebody like that?
01:12:13.000You know, Bush put him in as Housing Secretary.
01:13:18.000I think even if we are not sure we're going to win this fight, and we've entered lots of fights in the past where we weren't sure that we were going to be able to prevail, we were convinced that at a minimum you communicate to the other side that If you're going to do something like this, it's going to hurt you.
01:13:37.000Even if you get what you want in the end, have you really considered how high the price is going to be?
01:13:44.000Well, when Bill Clinton got the assault weapons ban passed, people panicked.
01:13:49.000It's all the limbaus the world talked about.
01:13:51.000People were going into gun shows with giant pallets, grabbing everything they could.
01:13:55.000People at gun shops were freaking out, talking about a revolution, and Bush says he's for it, wants to re-pass it, and then goes, well, I guess we better just turn our guns in!
01:14:08.000Well, it cost the Democrats control of the Congress, so far.
01:14:13.000Well, we're going to find out what these so-called conservatives want.
01:14:16.000Do they want to just stick a W sticker on their car and feel conservative?
01:14:19.000Do they love Bush more than they love the Second Amendment?
01:14:23.000Well, this is going to be one of those moments of truth because there's a lot more than, as you've indicated already, there's a lot more than just the gun issue at stake.
01:14:32.000I would say, I don't know where he is on taxes, but I would imagine with the company he's kept, he's probably pretty bad on that too.
01:14:40.000There you have described with abortion taxes and guns pretty much the core of the Republican base.
01:14:47.000And here's a guy being put In a very conspicuous position, in a time when we're involved in a war on terror and the Justice Department is grabbing more and more power in the name of fighting that fight, and the whole conservative movement, the Republican base, is just going to sit there and watch it?
01:15:06.000That's a little disappointing, shall we say.
01:15:48.000Yeah, and what he's saying is that he doesn't worry about the safety of those of us who will never see his brother and probably never see a cop when a bad guy threatens us.
01:16:13.000Because he likes torture and he can't wait to get our guns so he can have fun with us!
01:16:17.000Well, the fact that he is part of this movement that seems to want to have the restoration of Aztec heart cutters restored to the greater Southwest That's a power program if there ever was one.
01:16:34.000Those guys are Marxist to the core in La Raza and Mecha and those kind of groups.
01:17:40.000Yeah, it's a fascination with government power, assuming that even if you give it an innocent construction, it's the assumption that somehow with more power, we're going to be more safe.
01:17:53.000And historically, that's just a stupid position to take.
01:17:57.000There is no way to defend that whatsoever.
01:18:00.000It doesn't work, and people have known that for a long time.
01:18:04.000I think it was Benjamin Franklin that warned That if we thought we were going to get security by trading in our freedom, we would deserve neither and probably get neither.
01:18:14.000So, this is not a newsflash that you and I are communicating, but apparently here in Washington, it's a totally unheard of idea.
01:18:29.000And it'll certainly work in that respect.
01:18:32.000In that respect, it'll be very successful.
01:18:34.000When we come back, I want to take some calls, but I also want to get into this assault weapons ban, which they're trying to bring back to the floor, and the fight.
01:18:41.000And we're just going to wake up one day and hear it's passed again.
01:18:44.000I'll be called a liberal for being against it.
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01:23:21.000And Larry, I've actually gotten emails from people going, you know, how dare you criticize Gonzalez.
01:23:32.000And so, because I'm against losing the Second Amendment, I'm now a communist, basically.
01:23:36.000Well, it doesn't seem to me that the folks that are criticizing you are familiar with Gonzalez's record, the things that are on the record.
01:23:48.000You've correctly quoted him on the gun issue, and I'm aware that he's had rulings that were pro-abortion while he was on the Texas court.
01:24:00.000And he does have his fingerprints all over the Patriot Act.
01:24:05.000Why do some conservatives want to be in denial?
01:24:08.000You know, if it were before the election, and they were concerned, and I've talked to people like that who are concerned about, well, if we rock the boat, then Bush might lose and Kerry would win, and that would be just beyond what we can think about.
01:24:41.000I mean, Gonzales, I've got copies of his memo.
01:24:43.000They won't release the whole thing, but the memo that came into court.
01:24:46.000Where he says, we can torture people until organ failure, and if they die and we didn't intend them to die, it's still not torture.
01:24:54.000So he's saying we can torture people to death, and it's not torture, Larry.
01:25:00.000Well, that's a pretty interesting position, and I think that should be a matter of concern.
01:25:07.000It shouldn't be just liberals that are concerned about that.
01:25:11.000I don't know that we've really had any discussion of that during the hearings, at least I'm not aware of it.
01:25:17.000And perhaps more to the point for all of us, maybe not all of us are going to be tortured, but we're all going to have our privacy invaded in one way or another by the Patriot Act, and that ought to be a concern.
01:25:29.000Yeah, this just shows his mindset, and he's one of the, with Zia Dinn and others, one of the architects of it, along with Chertoff.
01:25:43.000Well, they've got most of what they want and it seems as if they don't need to bother with legislation if they don't get it.
01:25:50.000Because the whole idea of the enemy combatant was never in law when it was snapped on guys and they were just held without charges because they were classified as an enemy combatant.
01:26:02.000But talking about the assault weapons ban and other gun control.
01:26:05.000Well, happily, there, I think we've still got the horses to hold them off.
01:26:12.000We've got a House of Representatives that is very staunch, and I just don't think they're going to be able to buffalo it through there.
01:26:19.000The biggest problem still could be the Senate.
01:26:22.000The Senate is a somewhat better body, and I don't think, with the presence of Dr. Tom Coburn from Oklahoma, they're going to be able to pull off as many things
01:26:33.000I'm thinking particularly of that train wreck that was allowed to occur back in March last year when the bill that was on the floor that was designed to stop these lawsuits being brought against the gun industry because a criminal does something with a gun not because the gun malfunctions.
01:26:54.000Well that's another thing is that Gonzales is going to control all the federal prosecutors and they've got the these different zero-tolerance programs where somebody has a gun loaded in their car in the wrong state, so the feds come in and prosecute the state law against a nonviolent person with no criminal record who ends up going to the pen, doctors, lawyers, school teachers.
01:27:17.000I mean, this is happening, and Gonzalez is saying he's all for it.
01:27:21.000Well, the BATF is certainly not under control, and they're now technically under Gonzalez because they're in the Justice Department, which is what he will be heading, And we just saw yesterday, I got a news item that a fellow by the name of Peterson was finally acquitted with a federal jury.
01:27:40.000The BATF had very overtly tried to set him up and make him into a criminal by I hate to even use the word entrapment because the man really didn't think he was doing anything wrong.
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01:32:11.000You know, Larry, one time I went to a party, and there were a couple of BATF guys there, and when I first saw them, it was a big, you know, party, upscale party.
01:32:23.000It was three of them, and when I first saw them there, I'm like, are those guys like criminals?
01:32:27.000Two of them had shaved heads, you know, with the weird mustaches.
01:32:54.000But a BATF, the one time I was around them, One of these guys, let's just say he's a high-level agent here locally, really just, you know, the type of person on an alley at night you'd move away from.
01:33:05.000I'm not trying to be mean here, this is just my observation of them.
01:33:09.000Well, the bad apples tend to rise to the top, and that's been a severe problem for years and years and years within the BATF, even well before it came to the Justice Department.
01:33:23.000So it brings a culture of corruption at the top, and it's hard for a guy down the line, regardless of whether he and I would agree, That it's constitutional to have his job at the federal level at all.
01:33:37.000But nevertheless, there are guys that go into it.
01:33:40.000They have a, you know, they want to be a cop.
01:33:43.000And what they find out, that unless they're willing to cut corners, they're not getting to the top in the BATF.
01:33:50.000And a lot of them, I've talked to them, when they are trapped like this, they think, well, maybe I'll transfer to some other agency.
01:33:59.000Well, they're not going to get a good recommendation.
01:34:00.000They are literally trapped, and some of the most unhappy people in the world are those that have had a decent instinct, who ended up working at the BATF.
01:34:13.000Well, just to finish up with this, talking about the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, very astute comment you just made, because I happened to have researched them.
01:34:22.000They were the classic, what people in the South and other areas call the regulators.
01:34:28.000They go back to the age of the literal private hired thugs by the federal government to go break the stills, shake the people down.
01:34:37.000They became armed criminal gangs that would rob families, go into farmhouses, just take money, nothing illegal found.
01:34:43.000And then really, it's the first real criminal federal agency, and then down through its whole history, you know, it was the first of the whiskey regulators, the whiskey tax men.
01:34:54.000And so you've had kind of this criminal element, this mafia element from the start, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, and the tone got set for that agency in the beginning.
01:35:04.000And it is one of many examples that when you have law enforcement at the federal level, where it does not belong under our Constitution, you have something that's almost impossible to control, and accountability becomes something that Maybe is a word that some of them can spell if they happen to be good students but they don't know what it means and they certainly don't think it applies to them only to other people.
01:35:31.000Law enforcement is a function that is Delegated from average citizens.
01:35:38.000It's a job that we have decided we didn't want to do because it might have required too much time ourselves.
01:35:44.000And we delegated those powers, but we didn't give them up when we delegated them.
01:35:48.000And when we've given them to a federal agency, we in effect Good morning, Alex.
01:36:10.000A couple of three points, one for Mr. Pratt and then you, Alexander.
01:36:14.000First off, Mr. Pratt, a few years ago I used to think that gun control is a good thing.
01:36:20.000If you controlled all of our guns, crime would go down.
01:36:23.000But then I became a fan of the Alex Jones Show, and through a little research I've done on my own, I realized that that's a stupid opinion.
01:36:30.000Clearly when you start taking citizens' guns, people start dying.
01:36:34.000That's been proven historically, and it'll happen here if it's allowed to get to that point.
01:36:39.000With that as a backdrop, you're probably aware that in San Francisco, the city leaders want to put on... Yeah, speak up, Robert!
01:37:25.000Well, the good news, at least in San Francisco, and there's certainly not much in San Francisco, they can pass all the referenda they want, the initiatives they want, they can have their city council pass all the laws they want.
01:37:37.000On the Second Amendment issue, on the gun issue, they're going to have to change the state law first.
01:37:43.000That law's already been tried in court and it's been upheld even by the nut cases in the California State Court.
01:37:49.000What do you think of Arnold banning 50 Cals and wanting to ban more now?
01:37:53.000And I see all these conservative groups endorsing him for president now, Larry.
01:37:57.000Well, we put out a news release indicating that Mr. Schwarzenegger apparently is a girly boy when it comes to guns.
01:38:05.000Well, he likes to show these violent images of what a tough guy he is, when in reality he throws fits if he doesn't get his pedicure every day, and that's mainstream news.
01:38:13.000You talk about a girly boy, he gets bikini waxing.
01:39:28.000The first thing he did to solve the government's The financial crisis in California was to further indebt the state by some 16 billion dollars.
01:39:44.000The reason why you have conservatives, so-called conservatives that will call you a liberal, being against gun control or Arnold Schwarzenegger or whatever the case is, is because you have people who are politically unsophisticated, uninformed and ignorant, who want to feel that they're part of a power structure, that they're along for who want to feel that they're part of a power structure, that they're along for the ride and sharing in the power too, and they're too ignorant to know that there are just so many numbers, so many ciphers that are
01:40:13.000And this purpose, they're not sophisticated enough to even know that they're actually engaging in conduct, which is detrimental to their own social interests.
01:40:22.000You know, actually, I think that's a very good point.
01:40:24.000There are people who would rather not know about these issues that we're talking about, where the Republicans have made their serious mistakes, because, at least in their own mind, they're part of the power structure the power elite and obviously if you're going to start arguing with people you might get ostracized and no longer be welcome inside the circles of power well right
01:40:52.000and that kind of conduct it is usually is usually exhibited by ignorant people i tried to get involved in the republican party 10 years ago and and you go to the meetings and i found the democrats are just taking it I mean, really, the chairman and people were just, actually, were real live Democrats, and if you brought up real issues, they'd turn their back, they'd laugh at you, they'd walk away, and then all the little camp followers would do the same thing.
01:41:17.000Alex, you once said in a broadcast, and this is a very, very good example, and I've never forgotten it, all these years later, It's like being in a car with Ted Bundy, you know, and you think, yeah, me and him are, you know, out to do something.
01:41:29.000In fact, you know, Ted is not out to do nothing with you, but take you down with the rest.
01:41:49.000As for the Attorney General Designate, who has now been nominated Attorney General, Listen guys, we like to be diplomatic as gentlemen, but there comes a point in which I guess one should not withhold or spare any verbal blows about what this man is.
01:42:04.000A man who openly pontificates about the things that he has pontificated on.
01:46:06.000Well, they don't have the Washington Post anywhere in town.
01:46:08.000Sometimes it's at Barnes & Noble, or you're in this magazine, you're in this newspaper, or you're in the New American, or you're in the... it's the only place they got it in town.
01:47:14.000I mean, but I've found Hispanics, frankly, of any group per capita, the biggest listeners of this show, are the most conservative people per capita that I've found.
01:48:13.000He's a horrible person and for somebody to actually contemplate Um, the torture of another human being is just the worst, most unfathomable type of- But then he says we define reality, right?
01:49:12.000It's amazing, and the Democratic Party's faking over, the Republican Party's faking over, and if we as Americans don't get past what color we are and where we're from and start getting back to defending liberty, it's over.
01:49:25.000And you'll have a pack of criminals, regardless of what color they are, ruling us.
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01:53:44.000Before we go back to your calls to Jack and Tommy and everybody else who's patiently holding, Listen, it's simple.
01:53:52.000You want to wake people up, videos do it.
01:53:54.000You can talk to people, give them news articles, give them documents.
01:53:57.000When they see Andy Rooney saying everybody needs a chip.
01:54:01.000When they see FEMA saying all Christians are terrorists.
01:54:05.000When they see the police finding a Patriot Games film with Harrison Ford, one of my videos, and a Constitution, and saying this may be illegal at a roadside checkpoint from their own squad car.
01:54:16.000Well, that's about eight, nine minutes of what's in the two-and-a-half-hour, three-hour film.
01:56:30.000The, I guess, recipients are George W. Bush, Schwarzkopf, James Baker III, Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, Brent Scowcroft, and a list of CENTCOM guys.
01:56:41.000But on one side of the gun, this is a commemorative, says, New World Order commemorative.
01:56:47.000So this is a New World Order commemorative for the... Well, we've got a picture of the gun at PrisonPlanet.com right now.
01:56:52.000Yeah, we've got it listed at JackBlood.com as well.
01:56:55.000But, I mean, here we're always hearing there's no New World Order, you know, we're just making this up, and here this is what they put on this gun.
01:57:02.000I mean, it's right in our face, and I thought it was rather offensive.
01:57:07.000Well, a New World Order means total loss of liberty, world government, world taxation.
01:57:13.000Yeah, I mean, you can just see George Bush and others handling this gun, just kind of drooling, and they just love this kind of stuff, but they've got to put their name on it, and the name is New World Order, so.
01:57:26.000I'll tell you what, Jack, stay there, we'll go into the next hour.
01:57:28.000You know, I would add to this, imagine Gonzalez wants to get to our guns, and then scrap us down, and, you know, torture us.
01:57:34.000That's why he wants your guns, and I'm serious when I say that.
01:57:36.000They want your guns so they can torture and kill you.
01:57:56.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:00.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000We had the Spy Chief of the KGB on in the first hour, then we had Larry Pratt on about Alberto Gonzales wants your guns, and you're liberal if you're against gun control now.
01:58:16.000So I'm a communist, folks, if that's the case.
01:58:36.000They're up in Minnesota, folks, and I'm down here in Austin, Texas.
01:58:39.000They could type it over the computer to me, who the guests are, but they would always write it down and then can't read my own writing.
01:58:44.000So, Tony and John and Paul and Jim, we'll get to all your calls.
01:58:48.000But, Jack Blatt, you called in talking about this New World Order commemorative Glock that they gave to George Herbert Walker Bush and others.
01:58:56.000Just a nice little souvenir after all the death and destruction they caused over there.
01:59:00.000I mean, it makes you think, you know, what they're getting, what kind of souvenirs they're getting out of this war.
01:59:04.000Of course, we know that they ransacked the museums in Babylon and Baghdad, so I'm sure they have, you know, vases and various and sundry items that are thousands of years old.
01:59:13.000Maybe they've inscribed New World Order commemorative on those, too.
01:59:17.000This also says Operation Desert Storm and it gives the date and everything.
01:59:21.000They made a thousand of these and gave them to all the people who had done such a good job in getting Saddam Hussein in 1991.
01:59:34.000But notice the establishment, it's good when they have guns.
01:59:37.000It's just bad when we the slaves have guns.
01:59:40.000What do you think about Alberto Gonzalez saying he wants to...
01:59:42.000Yeah, maybe we'll have commemorative guns if we're lucky.
01:59:45.000They don't shoot bullets, but we can look at them and play with them or something.
01:59:49.000Yeah, obviously this whole confirmation, all these confirmation hearings and getting right up to Comrade Cherkov and his origins.
01:59:57.000You know, I've verified his name does in fact mean devil or the damned.
02:00:01.000I mean, this is the guy you want running your homeland security.
02:00:04.000All of these guys like Marcus Wolf and Primakov and others that are assisting this guy to turn this into a total and complete police state.
02:00:11.000Of course, George W. Bush gives the speech.
02:00:13.000He's going to He's going to eliminate tyranny around the world.
02:00:16.000He's going to spread democracy around the world like some bad can of spam or something.
02:00:31.000And I had a four-star general on yesterday from CENTCOM.
02:00:34.000He was Tony Frank's right-hand man, General DeLong.
02:00:38.000And I asked him about, you know, the quotes from other generals I've interviewed that said, we're creating terrorists faster than we can kill them.
02:00:44.000And he starts talking to me about, well, those Muslims are having a lot of babies, and if that's what you mean.
02:00:49.000And he was getting a really weird tone in his voice, like he was fantasizing about killing all these Muslim children that could end up being terrorists.
02:00:57.000That's how they fight terrorism, Alex.
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02:06:51.000Actually, I lived for years and worked and was born, actually, in Las Vegas, Nevada, just about a year and a half ago, because I felt the Lord wanted me to move away from there.
02:07:00.000But I have friends that work both out of Area 51 and Nellis in the military, and they will tell you, I caught your rebroadcast last night, and it's kind of dealing with you talking with the Colonel yesterday.
02:07:12.000There are not only NORTHCOM things going on out there, but there are German troops by the My friend who is a guard there, they've since moved him to Texas and he's now at Vandenberg in California because they're so short of personnel.
02:07:28.000He was there for about five months as a guard and worked on the base.
02:07:32.000I got to go on board with him and he got some of these shots on his cell phone.
02:07:50.000You know, he wasn't up on, he goes to a Bible study group, but he wasn't up on any of the things you cover.
02:07:54.000And I only discovered you, thank God, through George Nury, and getting on the internet listening to you.
02:07:59.000But he came to me and said that, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
02:08:01.000And then he showed me his pictures on his cell phone, the Germans all over our equipment there on Nellis.
02:08:06.000And, uh, they were being trained how to fly the F-117A being shown, and he said, you know, they're jealous because they got nothing like that.
02:08:12.000And I'm like, dude, why do they have German troops on our stuff?
02:08:16.000And it turned out later, he said there were scores.
02:08:20.000And he talked to his CO and said, why are they here?
02:08:22.000American citizens can't get anywhere near those stealth aircraft.
02:08:26.000Well, number one, from Alamogordo in New Mexico, uh, to the bases you were just mentioning, Grim Lake and others, uh, in Nevada, it's Germans.
02:08:53.000The CO told him, you know, well, he didn't know.
02:08:56.000So he went to, I guess, his company commander, and he told him they were there for an air show.
02:09:00.000And a year later, they're still there, you know.
02:09:02.000And they kept to themselves, he said they spoke German, and he counted, I mean, his guess was at least 200, but his... Well, maybe they should be Arnold's cabinet!
02:09:13.000Well, but here's what they're getting ready to do, and you guys were talking about it yesterday.
02:09:16.000We also knew two people who worked for FEMA, and one came into contact indirectly.
02:09:21.000They've built a base outside, between St.
02:09:24.000George and Las Vegas, and you were talking about the linchpins that are going to bring martial law on.
02:13:12.000Just had an interesting thing locally here last night.
02:13:15.000We've been fighting for a long time, and to be honest with you, I thought I was the only one around until I got a shortwave radio about four months ago.
02:13:21.000Uh, there's a gentleman I work with that chainsawed his armpit in 98.
02:13:24.000He's got an SSI report that says he's eligible for disability if he's ever disabled.
02:13:28.000But a doctor says, even though his hand is dead and his arm's only got 15% mobility, doctor says he can dress a dolly, that he's not disabled.
02:13:35.000But yet the, uh, motor vehicle department has given him, uh, disability, uh, regulations to have a steering knob and all that.
02:13:41.000Well, he got arrested for having a taillight out and not having a steering knob.
02:13:44.000Well, he went to court last night and, uh, you know, he fought the cases.
02:13:48.000Well, no one pays me to, to change my steering, Put my signal stat on the other side of the car.
02:14:16.000Let me explain how you domesticate animals.
02:14:21.000You know, five, six thousand years ago, how they began domesticating animals, even longer than that.
02:14:27.000What they do, is you start putting food out, and you get them used to coming up close to you.
02:14:33.000Then you build a little pen, and you put the food inside the pen, and the animals start going into the pen, then you have it where you close the gate once they go in the pen.
02:14:45.000Domestic pigs have gotten out, domesticated farm pigs, And after a few generations they grow, you know, two foot long hair, foot long hair, huge tusks.
02:15:00.000So what you do is you set up a little gate and a little fence, and you put a corn feeder out in front of it.
02:15:05.000You run that for a few weeks, get them used to eating at it, and you slowly move it into the fence.
02:15:10.000Then you leave it in the fence for a few weeks with the gate open because the stupid ones will go in at first.
02:15:16.000Then once the whole pack sees or the whole troop sees that it's safe, they all go in and you put an electronic timer on it that goes off ten minutes after the corn shoots out.
02:15:26.000They all go in, you close the gate, you load the hogs up and send them off to slaughter.
02:15:31.000This is what this social welfare net has done.
02:15:34.000Send both the husband and wife to work.
02:15:44.000We've got troops with arms and legs blown off that don't get disability or get like 5% disability.
02:15:53.000I know people who've got children that are totally retarded.
02:15:57.000What got me was that it's a local farmer that's the GP, Justice of the Peace, and in the past I'm going to tell you that he's been responsive and fair, I'm going to say as fair as possible, and here he charged a guy $150 for not having a steering knob on his steering wheel.
02:16:58.000And I'm sorry for your friend, but, uh, I mean, you don't think you're going to pay your money into a government that's owned by private crime syndicates and they're going to pay you, do you?
02:17:15.000And, you know, a few of us went into the cage at first, and now those that won't go in the cage, they're just saying, okay, new freedom initiative.
02:17:22.000We're going to forcibly, psychologically test you and say you're mentally ill and put you on drugs.
02:17:26.000Or, okay, your child draws a stick figure with a knife.
02:17:31.000We're going to put them in prison at age ten.
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02:23:07.000You know, and that's what I heard he did to his neighbors and people.
02:23:09.000And he got into it with the local police.
02:23:12.000And then I don't know exactly what happened, but a police officer got shot in the face and almost died, and Bill Cooper and his dog got blown away.
02:23:18.000And, uh, you know, I don't know what else to say about it.
02:23:23.000Okay, well I didn't know if any of the stuff that he had written on was, was, uh, part tangible evidence or worthwhile.
02:23:29.000Because I found that book a little hard to believe, and he wouldn't really name the sources, so I just kind of wanted to know.
02:23:35.000Yeah, there's enough stuff that's so bizarre that's documented, it's hard to believe.
02:23:39.000You know, why talk about stuff you can't prove?
02:23:41.000Well, that's why I like your program, because you back it up with the legislation and things like this.
02:23:47.000Overall, I think Bill was a good guy, and I'm sad that his passing.
02:26:29.000Supposedly, we're training a lot of troops, Iraqis, to become their own army at this time.
02:26:37.000What they've done is put 98% of the Ba'athas back in.
02:26:41.000Okay, well, they're going to be armed, obviously, and have weapons, guns, and everything.
02:26:48.000Now, if Bush plans on attacking Iran in the near future, what happens if those Iraqi troops turn against the American soldiers while they're attacking Iran?
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02:31:03.000And we're about to go to Ron and Stanford and Robert and a few other callers.
02:31:08.000And then I want to get into 10-year-olds being arrested for drawing stick figures with knives.
02:31:13.000And I want to get into just a whole other big stack of vital news.
02:31:17.000But before we go to these final calls here in the last 26 minutes that we've got left on this Thursday, the 27th of January, 2005 edition, I am honored, I am pleased to have, well, Debbie from New Millennium Concepts on.
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02:32:05.000Hi Alex, thank you very much for having me.
02:32:08.000It's always good to hear your voice, Debbie.
02:32:11.000You know, I really don't have words to describe.
02:32:13.000If people don't buy your filters, and don't stop drinking the poisonous water, this is something where they can take control from the New World Order.
02:32:46.000Um, actually the Berkey lights have the new Berkey water filters made in America have what's called our black Berkey purification elements in them Alex.
02:32:56.000And they take out pathogenic bacteria, cysts, and parasites to a non-detectable level.
02:33:02.000And I would tell you something, you do not realize where you're getting those from.
02:33:07.000I was reading an article in a magazine at the store the other day.
02:33:14.000And it's said that 80% of airplanes do not drink the coffee, the tea, the ice, the water because 80% of the airplanes tested the water they were using had bacteria in it.
02:33:27.000If you're in a mobile home, an RV, you know, those storage tanks are not clean.
02:33:33.000You're pumping water in from these hoses and they're in the storage tanks or however they're coming up.
02:33:40.000Yeah, you have to be aware that you're getting these bacterias from everywhere, you know, and by birthing your water first, by taking your tap water, whether you're on a well, whether you're using your rainwater, whether you're in the city, by birthing your water, you're at least taking some control of your life of what's going in your body.
02:34:07.000Well, I agree, but I've read about these tanks in RVs and in mobile homes.
02:34:11.000I just didn't believe it, you know, because I really was surprised that a regular magazine, worldly magazine, would have right there in bold print, you know, that 80% of the airplanes tested had bacteria in the water, do not drink the ice, don't eat the tea.
02:34:26.000And usually when I fly, which I like to fly a lot, you know, because everybody I think knows I'm from California and I visit home a lot, And I fly all the time and I'll drink coffee on the plane or I'll have, you know, ice water.
02:34:38.000Of course, they give you bottle water, but I always take my Berkey Sport bottle anyway.
02:34:43.000And somebody got blessed with one recently because I accidentally left one on a plane.
02:35:08.000I mean, even, like, how many times have you made iced tea and kind of left it out because it's a hot summer day or whatever, and you leave it out on the counter?
02:35:19.000And then you take a drink, and it's kind of thick, and it's horrible, and you go, oh, yuck.
02:35:25.000You know, because something grew in that.
02:36:23.000But for those that just joined us, they need to give you a call, ask about the different specials.
02:36:30.000You know, the sports bottles, the units for the kitchen, all of it.
02:36:35.000You need the shower filters, that's where you're inhaling a lot of this, and it's going through your skin as well, one of the biggest areas.
02:36:40.000Oh, and I thought of something the other day, too.
02:36:42.000Let me tell you this, Alex, because I've had people ask me if we have a filter for the bathtub, and I always say, no, we don't, you know?
02:36:53.000But if somebody were to put the shower filter in the shower part of their bathtub, And then go to like a store and buy a $10 hand-held shower head, you know the kind on the hose?
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02:39:23.000They're using Bush's strong points in his personality to invoke an emotional response in people.
02:39:31.000You know, how they've orchestrated his walk, his talk, his strut to You get people to respond emotionally, and with that image, that's how they're drawn to him.
02:39:44.000No, he constantly talks about God, he constantly talks about freedom and liberty, when he's the exact opposite.
02:39:51.000And there's a reporter on CNN last week that asked him, what is the best, what is the strongest way we can improve our security, national security?
02:40:03.000And here's his answer, quote, We need to get into the minds and the mail of the enemy.
02:40:22.000I mean, when the Supreme Court on Monday said we're going to search all your vehicles with drug dogs, no Fourth Amendment needed, no probable cause.
02:40:29.000I mean, the Fourth Amendment's still there.
02:41:10.000Also, I wanted to say, I'm starting to now, I just basically started getting on your website And it's like I'm starting to see this picture of what's been going on.
02:41:23.000Yeah, that's all we do is post their documents, their news, but it's the condensed news that's mixed in with all the other, you know, what's Michael Jackson doing, what's Lacey Peterson doing.
02:41:35.000It's kind of like straining the gold out of the sand.
02:41:37.000We go through a big bucket of sand and get a few grains of gold, but we go through tons of sand and get you buckets of gold just to show you what they admit what they're doing.
02:41:46.000And to be clear about Pat Robertson, that may hurt people's feelings when I said it.
02:41:51.000He is a high-level Mason, and the higher-level Masons know who they're worshipping.
02:47:00.000Well, I mean, they went from a couple thousand tons to, you know, just ten times that amount in opium producing for heroin, and it's all being grown, and the only thing that gets sprayed is somebody who didn't pay their cut, and our government publicly ships the opium out.
02:47:20.000They're using Wall Street to funnel the government.
02:47:22.000And then it comes out in the newspapers that, hey, our government runs these fields, there's nothing we're going to do about it, ha ha ha, but we're going to SWAT team your house looking for it.
02:47:58.000The top of the pyramid, it's international business machines, my friend.
02:48:03.000You think that's more evil than the private Federal Reserve, huh?
02:48:06.000I'm telling you, every time we look, as top strategists involved in everything, you want to talk about just one of the main heads, the biggest, fattest, Grizzliest looking head on the Hydra's IBM.
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02:53:11.000And then the kids go home and watch violent TV, play video games where they do all this, and that's all alright, but then when you show it in any art form, then you go to jail as a terrorist.
02:53:22.000A British citizen subject to curfews, tagging under new terror powers.
02:53:26.000Associated Press, the British government announced Wednesday, proposed sweeping new powers to control suspected terrorists, including electronic tagging, curfews, and house arrest of people who have not been convicted of crimes, all part of the new freedom.
02:54:09.000I've heard neocons on the air going, yeah, fire people if they smoke, or fire them if they don't take a drug test for smoking.
02:54:20.000Oh, it's so good, but the problem is, then it's going to be for eating too much beef, or eating too much cheese, or drug tests to see if you drank alcohol in the last month.
02:54:31.000I've seen articles where they fire cops who are caught smoking cigars at parties in Florida because it's illegal for a cop to smoke.
02:54:41.000The push for mass double-think, Bush targets tyranny, the Boston Herald told it like it was.
02:54:47.000I'm out of time, ladies and gentlemen.
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