In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about the new Pan-American National ID Card, George W. Bush's attempt to get rid of Social Security, and why working three jobs is not a bad thing.
00:00:48.000It's already Wednesday, the ninth day of February, 2005.
00:00:51.000We'll be live for the next three hours.
00:00:56.000We're scheduled to either have Ron Paul or his main press officer, Jeff Dice, on in the third hour to talk about a second National ID Card piece of legislation, H.R.
00:01:11.000They passed the National ID Card two months ago in December of 2004, but this new law beefs it up and makes it a Pan-American National ID Card.
00:02:28.000Also, Palestinian groups disavow truce, which just signed yesterday.
00:02:33.000And there's been a car bomb explode in Madrid as well.
00:02:39.000They're saying the World Cup in 2006 being accused for mega surveillance project using RFID.
00:02:48.000A report here out of USA Today with America at War, Hollywood follows, talking about the propaganda films.
00:02:55.000And the Drudge Report's talking about Bush.
00:02:57.000During one of these little stage town hall meetings, something went wrong.
00:03:02.000And while promoting Social Security reform with quote, regular citizens in Omaha, Nebraska, President Bush walked into an awkward, unscripted moment in which he stated that Carrying three jobs at a time is uniquely American, and you're absolutely right.
00:03:17.000If people want to keep their standard of living up, because things have dropped, you've got to work three jobs.
00:03:22.000While talking with audience participants, the President met Mary Morin, a woman in her late fifties who told the President she was divorced, mother of three, including a mentally challenged son.
00:03:33.000The President Comforted her on the security of Social Security, stating that the promises made will be kept by the government.
00:03:42.000But without prompting, she began to elaborate on her life circumstances.
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00:08:18.000Coming up in about 10 minutes, we're going to be talking to local activists who are on the verge of recalling the mayor and defeating the centerpiece, the crown jewel of a federal program of national toll roads, where you'll all have transponders in your cars and pay the first year, when it starts, $1,800 per vehicle.
00:08:55.000Then, in the second hour, we're going to be talking to Steve Peltier.
00:08:59.000Retired after a long and rich career with the CIA and then the Army War College.
00:09:05.000And he's a political scientist, and after a stint in journalism covering the Middle East, he became the CIA Senior Analyst at Laney during the Iran-Iraq War.
00:09:15.000At the Army War College, he and others studied Iraq's victory over Iran in minute detail, and he has written a number of books on how that feat was managed.
00:09:24.000And to give us the inside scoop on the coming World War III, And it's probably going to happen.
00:09:31.000Most analysts we've talked to, and we're talking former top Reagan administration, former Bush administration top people, former Clinton top folks, even people who've been involved in the Bush administration are saying this.
00:09:41.000That's why we've been focusing on it the last few weeks.
00:10:21.000You're thinking, well, why is there another National ID card?
00:10:23.000Well, you see, this one just set up federal standardization of the state driver's license through the NCIC database for the new National Sales Tax that's coming.
00:10:32.000You'll have to have it to have a job, and it sets up internal checkpoints, and it's bad enough.
00:10:38.000But the monsters just get bigger, you know, each generation.
00:10:42.000And so now, two months later, just a few days shy of two months later, out of the furnace, into the pit of the Night Circle of Hell, comes HR-418, scheduled to pass today.
00:11:31.000Number two, establish a federally coordinated database of personal information on American citizens with Canada and Mexico or Pan-American ID card.
00:11:41.000Use the national ID to track American citizens when traveling outside the U.S.
00:11:58.000In broad new terms, that could include members of firearms, rights, and anti-abortion groups, or other such groups as determined by whoever is in power at the time.
00:12:15.000Authorize the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to unilaterally expand the information included in driver's license, including such biometric information as retina scans and DNA information.
00:13:09.000418 fails miserably on the most critical issue.
00:13:13.000It's like the huge Homeland Security funding of last December.
00:13:17.000Put money in for 2,000 more Border Patrol to sweeten the deal so people would go for it.
00:13:22.000And then day one, I mean the day after they passed it, Ridge said, we're not going to fund that.
00:13:27.000We're going to use that money on something else.
00:13:30.000So they'll have these mega massive $100 million funding packages and then put a few hundred million into more Border Patrol and then just take it away.
00:14:00.000So, you know, as the monster grows, it's got to have teeth to fit its mouth.
00:14:06.000But it actually gave a waiver to all illegal aliens in the United States that states and private corporations are to accept consular matriculus, which are now issued, I keep saying 30, that was two years old, it's now 48, I saw the numbers this weekend, 48 countries are issuing them that our government is accepting.
00:14:29.000Now, 800 plus cities and most of the states were already accepting it, but now the feds are saying, yes, this is acceptable.
00:14:36.000And last year I had the leader of the Republican Senate in Colorado on, who's been valiantly fighting this, and his staff, in one day, got him four fake consular matriculas under four different names.
00:14:50.000Got them for himself, just to demonstrate this, and they cost them $24 apiece.
00:14:54.000So, We have less border patrol than we had before 9-11.
00:15:02.000On the southern border alone, in Texas alone, the Texas border sector, than in the Houston Chronicle, Austin American Statesman.
00:15:10.000We reported here, of course, before that, but then finally it was in the paper a couple years ago, that we lost over 2,000 border patrol in Texas alone.
00:15:37.000Looking for suspicious activity, you know, busting people with drugs.
00:15:40.000Would you rather do that or sit out there on the border all by yourself with Mexican troops shooting at you in order to walk around in the rattlesnake infested bush picking up trash?
00:15:55.000And so the $2,000 they were going to put in for the northern and southern border wouldn't even replace what we lost in Texas on our, what, 200-mile stretch of border here.
00:16:27.000You know, I remember hearing the chief neocon on talk radio as I drove down the road the day after they passed the national ID card in December.
00:16:40.000And he actually said, we have won a great victory, we've defeated the stupid liberals, they were against it, but Bush got it.
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00:24:17.000Alright, my friends, the next 35 minutes, we're joined by Linda Curtis and Jimmy Gardner.
00:24:25.000all in blood in war and liberty for their descendants thank god for the renegades alright my friends the next 35 minutes we're joined by Linda Curtis and Jimmy Gardner now we've had Mr. Costello on who founded the Austin Toll Party and now these have spread across the country and
00:24:51.000And no matter where you live, whether it's New York, or Illinois, or Florida, or California, or Nevada, New Mexico, wherever you live, massive toll roads are going in.
00:25:04.000And in a nutshell, tolls were always put on a new road you'd build.
00:25:21.000But under federal plans, all over the country, we're going to have 6,000 miles of toll roads here in Texas, with Rick Perry, the so-called conservative.
00:25:30.000Under this federally manipulated plan, they will give almost all the existing state and local roads to private companies, this is corporate looting, and you will have a transponder in your car, Just like in Europe now, they're putting in the satellite boxes.
00:25:46.000Arnold's calling for it in California.
00:26:01.000And so, all of these major existing roads in Austin, paid for, you know, 50-year-old roads, in some cases older, are going to have huge toll roads on them.
00:26:14.000And when the transponder also tracks and traces where you go and what you do.
00:26:17.000And a few months ago in Illinois, I told you about this, folks, and now it's in the news.
00:26:21.000They said, alright, toll roads all over the state, and if you don't take a transponder, we're going to have one lane that's still cash toll.
00:27:15.000I mean, there's a bunch of people saying this.
00:27:16.000And then there's obvious stuff like board members of different state boards.
00:27:19.000The day, understand this, the day after they, you know, just classic stuff, pass the toll roads with this unelected board, then their family members get huge lucrative jobs for the private toll company.
00:27:53.000And what he later learned was that one of the mayor's chief assistants waddles over and basically tells him, according to Jimmy, who I've known for years, never made any allegations like this before, and it's part of the course, and seen this before, other city people, and just says, I'll give you $200 to pack up and leave and to give me those signatures.
00:28:20.000Well, I was out there collecting signatures from my petitions, and a gentleman came up to me, and he took exception to the information I was putting out, namely what was part of the toll road plan, what was not.
00:28:35.000And we, you know, I'm trying not to argue with the guy because I'm a man on a mission there trying to get signatures for my petition.
00:28:42.000You're out front the Whole Foods and book people down on 6th Street.
00:28:46.000A lot of people walking by, great place to get signatures.
00:28:50.000And so this guy took exception and he said, look, I'll bet you that Mopac, which is our main commuter highway on the west side of the city, he said, I bet Mopac is not part of the plan.
00:29:01.000I'll call one of the Campo board members on my cell phone right now and let you talk to her.
00:29:08.000So I said, look, I'm not really interested in betting But Jimmy, we don't have a lot of time, so to make a long story short, that's how they ease you into it.
00:29:16.000Then later, what did he finally say to you?
00:29:18.000Well, finally, when he realizes, you know, I don't want to bet him, don't really want to have much to do with him, he says, how many signatures do you have on your petitions there?
00:29:26.000And I said, oh, I probably got 10 on the table here.
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00:33:27.000That's paraphrasing a French philosopher, but Look, why are we talking about toll roads?
00:33:32.000These aren't just your regular toll roads.
00:33:34.000All over the country, from California to New York, from sea to shining sea, north, south, east and west, new toll roads on your existing highways.
00:33:44.000And these interstate corridors, I've been up in Oklahoma and Kansas and places where they block off for 50, 60 miles.
00:33:50.000Everything, all these ghost towns to your left and right.
00:33:53.000McDonald's and gas stations built in the middle, taxed by the state.
00:33:57.000You can't get off the road, you can't get on the road.
00:34:00.000That's what Texas is going to be like, California, all your states.
00:34:04.000And, of course, it's our so-called conservative, Rick Perry, running this in Texas.
00:34:09.000Your so-called conservative, Lord Schwarzenegger, doing it out in California.
00:34:36.000And so, we have this pattern, though, of just alleged bribery here, alleged bribery there, payoffs here, payoffs there.
00:34:44.000And then somebody I know, talk about small world, He's just out there in front of uh... I know Jimmy for months has been out doing this.
00:34:53.000Jimmy's out there on his own time getting signatures as he believes in freedom and here comes this person walking over to him in front of all these witnesses doing this.
00:35:02.000Uh... let's go now and we'll bring Jimmy back up uh... but first and we'll finish up the story of the uh... what he's saying he's alleging and I believe him uh... this attempted bribery.
00:35:12.000He's been to the DA's office and the rest of it and again it's in the paper it's on InfoWars.com.
00:35:16.000Let's go to Linda Curtis Who's the coordinator for the petition drive for the Austin Poll Party.
00:35:28.000Why don't you fire out the website and how folks in Central Texas can get involved, even if you're not an Austin voter, and the hurdle you're up against.
00:35:38.000I mean, this is sudden death overtime, neck and neck, to get enough of these signatures.
00:35:43.000Yes, and it doesn't help to get interference from the powers that be.
00:35:47.000So here's what people can do around the country and world that are listening to the show.
00:35:51.000You can go to our website austintollparty.com and make a financial contribution of whatever you can.
00:35:59.000You can also, no matter where you live, including of course Central Texas, you can go to the website, send all your friends to the website, and download the petition and get your friends that are registered voters in Austin to sign it.
00:36:15.000And then bring it, if you're here in Central Texas, bring it to the CAMPO meeting this Monday night.
00:36:21.000We're calling this the Valentine's Day Massacre of the Texas Toll Plan.
00:36:25.000The showdown is coming this Monday night starting at 6 p.m.
00:36:30.000The CAMPO is meeting and they're going to have to answer questions put to them by some of the people that we've actually been trying to recall.
00:36:38.000Brewster McCracken has been now asking the right questions he should have asked at the get-go.
00:36:44.000Well, he's released the documents, the tax documents.
00:36:46.000They've got plenty of money to giant corporate looting up.
00:37:35.000The problem is you need to get $15,000 in the next couple of weeks because you know they are going to throw out a bunch of your signatures.
00:38:11.000We're down at UT right now petitioning as well, so those students that are listening or folks that are in the UT area, we need lots of help down at UT.
00:38:19.000And folks around the country, in California or Illinois or Florida, wherever this is happening, duplicate what the Austin Poll Party is doing.
00:38:30.000Okay, they're now announcing you're going to have to have a transponder in your car that automatically detects your account as you drive through different taxing authorities.
00:38:46.000I want to go back to my good buddy, Jimmy, and let him finish the story of where he's talking about this attempted bribery that he's alleging.
00:38:53.000And there were witnesses there that saw this guy talking to him.
00:38:56.000That's now admitted that he was talking to him.
00:39:00.000Just basically what the toll roads are and what they've been trying to do.
00:39:03.000There's seven toll roads that we found out initially about.
00:40:17.000They've been kind of like a shell game, trying to just drive everybody crazy.
00:40:20.000Well, McCracken wrote an editorial on January 31st.
00:40:22.000It's smart to question the toll road numbers, and he admits this, quote, TxDOT confidential marked documents, marked secret, that say we got plenty of money.
00:40:32.000Now, if the hearing on Monday TxDOT has now been ordered to come with clear answers to the questions that both McCracken and Thomas now, Danny Thomas, one of the council members we've been recalling, Danny's now starting to realize that he was told maybe not the truth.
00:40:52.000I'm stating this as carefully as I can.
00:40:53.000Of course, McCracken voted to give up city authority for this non-elected state board, and now he's flip-flopped and is out fighting it, but not arrogant will win the twit mayor.
00:41:05.000Will Wynn is now, I think, his office is covering for this gentleman that works in the office who's been going around harassing people and trying to stop our petition drivers.
00:42:58.000And, Linda, before we go back to Jimmy, they've said in Washington, they've said all over, Austin is the test.
00:43:04.000If they can do this here, toll roads all over the major roads to get anywhere in the town, that if Austin falls, You know, if Midas Tirith falls, the forces of Mordor are going to be able to win all over the place.
00:43:19.000And I talked about that on TV last night with you, and you seconded that that's the info you've got.
00:44:23.000I said, look, I don't want your money.
00:44:26.000All you're trying to do is disrupt things out here.
00:44:30.000I said, the problem, at that point, I knew he'd crossed the line.
00:44:33.000So I got a little cocky with him and I said, Hey, the problem with you political types is that you're used to walking around with a stack of bills and paying people off to have people do your bidding.
00:45:00.000All the 350 pound, you know, 6 foot 2 guys leaning over you?
00:45:04.000Well, I would say it reduced my number of signatures quite a bit while he's standing there setting a pick.
00:45:11.000Now the mayor's office now admits that he quote did talk to you and that you know he was talking to you because there were witnesses and reporters and people around but what's their spin on this?
00:45:20.000Well they had to admit that he was out there because there's hundreds of people that walk by in the three or four hours that I was out there so they knew that they couldn't lie about that and so they said yeah he was indeed out there on his own lunch hour which was you know 2.30 in the afternoon and But, it was, they called it a publicity stunt on the part of our organization, which of course is not true.
00:45:47.000Although, we have gotten quite a bit of publicity out of this.
00:45:58.000And we put it on TV, put it on the web, and I was there, and we catch the guy paying the money out right outside the chambers of two people that had just testified, and the House Ethics Board said it was illegal.
00:46:08.000But then the paper actually said, it's just for publicity, Mr. Jones.
00:46:24.000On the Fox News piece locally, you said, well, there was a reporter there that saw this.
00:46:29.000So they go to another reporter and go, was it you?
00:46:31.000And she goes, no, it was another station reporter.
00:46:34.000And then, as if that muddies the water, just this confusion.
00:46:39.000It's like Popular Mechanics with this 9-11 hit piece that's coming out.
00:46:43.000You know, they go, they call me up and they go, Mr. Jones, uh, well, I'll talk about it later, but the point is, they go, Mr. Jones, we called these people that you say you interviewed, uh, about seismographs showing explosions in the towers, and they said, you never interviewed them.
00:46:57.000And I went and looked on the web and I said, we posted an American Free Press article.
00:48:10.000Here's the thing, and this goes back to everything that, every kind of decision in this country depends on one thing that I think a lot of people are blocking on.
00:48:24.000Whatever gets decided is by virtue of what the people demand or don't demand.
00:48:29.000And the reason why we're in this position in the first place is we've got 8% of the people here voting in city elections.
00:48:59.000And we're plunging downwards, and we've got these big corporate interests that are just going to have all the cities hand over their roads to them.
00:49:07.000That's the thing about this corporate fascism, folks.
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00:54:11.000Well, you've probably seen the shows on Bonanza, the old westerns, where, quote, it's a bad town.
00:54:17.000They make you pay a toll to get through the pass, and the bad sheriff and the local fat cat feed on the public and steal people's property.
00:54:44.000Government goes bad, corrupt people that want to feed off the public, get into control, and they get arrogant, and they get out of control, and things get bad.
00:54:52.000And the toll roads are a nightmare, and it's just all part of the system.
00:54:56.000And, you know, Jimmy and Folks like him are just standing up to the corrupt sheriff, standing up to the corrupt local viceroys, and saying no.
00:55:06.000So, Jimmy Gardner, and of course Linda Curtis, I want to commend both of you.
00:55:11.000And last time on the TV show, Jimmy, you challenged the mayor's aide.
00:55:17.000You said, hey buddy, let's both take a lie detector test.
00:55:45.000Let's not let them corrupt that process either.
00:55:49.000Well, I think this is going to hurt them bad, but the whole process from the state to the federal and local level is just riddled with stuff that mirrors this.
00:56:00.000And, Jimmy, I want to thank you for coming on, and we'll have you guys back on for a plug on Monday if we're able to.
00:56:09.000Just that this is part of a long-term effort.
00:56:12.000We all need to understand this is just one battle in the long-term war against The corruption of our very system itself and the people need to get involved and take back the system, make it work for us.
00:57:02.000So go get some of the petitions off the website.
00:57:04.000Go get them signed and show up Monday and get them notarized there at the LBJ Presidential Library and Museum.
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01:00:29.000Redefine terrorism in broad new terms that could include members of firearms rights and anti-abortion groups or other such groups as determined by whoever it is.
01:00:41.000Five, authorize the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security to unilaterally expand the information included in the driver's license, including such biometric information as retina scans and DNA information, forced DNA testing, when you get your driver's license.
01:00:54.000And even radio frequency identification tracker chips in your driver's license.
01:00:59.000Ron Paul went on to state that this does nothing to stop illegal aliens, but it's being sold to the public as that when it's a fraud.
01:01:06.000And he went on to say carrying a driver's license with RFID and government officials will know your whereabouts 24-7.
01:01:22.000418 states that we already know certain people here are illegal and are deportable, but it does nothing to mandate deportation.
01:01:30.000It's like they pass money for more Border Patrol, and Ridge says, we're not going to fund that, we're taking that money for something else.
01:01:42.000But defending the Republic is a lot of fun and learning their scams is very enlightening and it's very empowering so I challenge you to get involved and wake up to what's happening and call Congress and say no to H.R.
01:01:56.000418 that they're going to be voting on as early as this afternoon or tomorrow.
01:02:04.000Now there's a bunch of other news that I want to cover that's just really, really important.
01:02:10.000And one of the stories is just the ongoing mass conditioning to accept torture and evil.
01:02:17.000I don't think he's a bad guy, but Ted Nugent had that, uh, Ted Nugent's extreme survival, survivor, and they had people down in These pits, and of course it had rained, so there was three feet of water, and it was 50 degree water, so they were getting hypothermia, and I talked to folks that were on set, they were, the producers, when the medics were saying, get them out, they were saying, oh no, no, no, wait till we get the shots, people are passing out from being in, you know, freezing water for hours, very cold water for hours.
01:02:43.000Yeah, but that's, with scorpions all over them, by the way, but that's nothing, folks, Listen to this.
01:02:52.000The UK lines up Guantonimo-style torture reality TV show.
01:02:57.000Channel 4 is to broadcast what is styling as Guantonimo-based style reality show that will examine the effects of mild torture on seven male volunteers, Muslims.
01:03:09.000Torturing Muslims on TV is all part of the fun.
01:03:12.000The Guantanamo guidebook will recreate some of the practices used at U.S.
01:03:16.000naval bases where hundreds of so-called enemy combatants have been held without trial or access to lawyers for nearly three years.
01:03:23.000And using an East London warehouse and declassified internal documents obtained from U.S.
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01:07:36.000But now we're shifting from the toll roads into the police state.
01:07:41.000You know, why does the empire that wants to project itself outwards want so much control here domestically?
01:07:46.000Well, that's so we can't struggle as we're used as the cannon fodder both to be taxed to fund these wars and to, of course, the draft that's coming up, that'll be the good little slaves for these wars.
01:07:57.000And we've been having a lot of insiders, a lot of admirals, judge-advocate generals, you know, the father of Reaganomics.
01:08:05.000We've been having congressmen, senators, mainly conservatives, on this broadcast to expose the neocons and expose the agenda that could lead us into World War 3.
01:08:21.000It's a powder keg with Iran and we're just inches away from Israel attacking them and then things just going downhill from there.
01:08:28.000To talk about the geopolitical stratagem behind this and to predict where things are going He's the author of American Oil Wars, Steve Pelletier, and he's retired after a long and rich career with the CIA and then the Army War College, and he's a PhD in political science and after a stint in journalism covering the Middle East, he became the CIA's senior analyst at
01:08:57.000Langley, during the Iran-Iraq war, at the Army War College, he and others studied Iraq's victory over Iran in minute detail, and he has written a number of books on how that feat was managed.
01:09:07.000He also has some inside info that we've gotten from Ray McGovern and others here on the broadcast about what really happened with the nerve gas that Saddam supposedly used.
01:09:26.000Try to give us a sketch, you know, for the novice out there of why you think these preemptive wars are being engaged in and what's the prime mover behind that and what's the prime mover behind that?
01:09:42.000Well, first off, tell us a little bit about yourself.
01:09:48.000I started my... I was originally a journalist and then I got a Ph.D.
01:09:55.000in Political Science at Berkeley and then taught at one of the colleges for a while and then the CIA recruited me to be their Kurdish expert and then I just segued from that into being a Senior Political Analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War and then I left at the end of the war and went to the U.S.
01:10:21.000Army War College Well, frankly, I was doing the same thing.
01:11:08.000Now, before we get into what's really going on in Iraq, what you think about the situation with Iran, which you, again, were one of the chief analysts on for the CIA, before we get into that, are you familiar with the Naval War College, Golden Boy, Thomas Barnett?
01:11:27.000Well, he's prancing around talking about basically invading the whole planet and saying we work for global corporations and the military is their tool.
01:11:35.000I'm sure you're familiar with that whole school of thought right now that's coming out of the Pentagon.
01:14:33.000Sorry for using the word nerve gas, but that's what I understand it to be.
01:14:35.000I mean, certainly sarin would be more of a classical nerve gas, but I think it's... I mean, just please give us your view on that.
01:14:42.000Well, as you know, the claim of the Bush administration is that Saddam Hussein gassed his own people.
01:14:54.000There's complications with that, because the only authenticated instance where Iraqis died, having been gassed, is this incident in Aleppo.
01:15:08.000And immediately after that occurred, and this was in 1988, the U.S.
01:15:18.000government determined that Given the condition of the bodies of the dead Iraqis, it's likely that they were killed with a cyanide gas, and Iraq didn't use that gas, and as far as anyone knew, didn't have that gas.
01:15:34.000I'm sorry to have to mention this, Steve, but can you get closer to your cordless phone, Jack?
01:15:44.000Yeah, the claim is that the Iraqis used a and they killed these Kurdish citizens.
01:15:55.000And in fact, as I said, the U.S. Army Army investigated that claim, and they said that the gas that killed the Kurds, the Iraqis didn't have.
01:16:11.000The Iranians did have it, so therefore they said the Iranians killed the Kurds.
01:16:15.000And that was an Army War College report, correct?
01:16:18.000No, it was a report of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is based in the Pentagon.
01:16:23.000Okay, because again, I have the news report here, and it was saying Army War College report.
01:16:28.000Okay, so I guess that's wrong then, it wasn't an Army War College report?
01:16:32.000Well, the Army, to straighten that out, the D.I.A.
01:16:37.000conducted the study, and then... Then it was published to the Army War College?
01:16:42.000It was published to the Army War College?
01:16:43.000No, no, after the study was conducted, the Army asked me to head up a study that would investigate how the Iraqis would fight a war against the United States.
01:17:00.000So I'm looking at the sub-findings out of that report and your report.
01:17:04.000Yeah, so you're confusing the two reports.
01:17:07.000All I did was in my report I publicized the DIA report.
01:17:11.000So supposedly they looked at the gas and found it was cyanide gas that the Iranian Jews, which the Iraqis didn't use.
01:18:36.000I want to shift gears when we get back and talk about what you think the real strategic plans are and what you see happening, how you think Iran's going to play into all this when we get back.
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01:22:51.000All right, we're talking to Steve Pelletier, and CIA's senior analyst at Lanely during the Iran-Iraq War.
01:23:08.000Sir, what do you see happening in the future with Iran and others?
01:23:13.000Because we've been having a lot of your contemporaries on the broadcast and they're saying that if Israel goes in and bombs their
01:23:22.000nuclear reactor sites uh... that uh... that could trigger iran probably will trigger iran going into iraq and then uh... it's gonna be like custards last stand uh... do you think uh... there's any uh... merit to that no i don't i think that uh... the uh... israelis could bomb uh... the site uh... but i don't think the uh... iranians would do any more than the iraqis did when the israelis
01:23:56.000The problem is not with raids from the air.
01:24:01.000The problem is going in and occupying territory on the ground, and the United States can't do that anymore.
01:24:07.000We can't attack into Iran and occupy territory because we haven't got the manpower.
01:24:18.000The Israelis can bomb all they want, but I'm sure the Iranians will absorb it.
01:24:24.000Really, a lot of other analysts have been saying that the Iranians have been saying they're going to go absolutely ape.
01:24:32.000But you think they'll respond just like the Iraqis did in 1981?
01:24:36.000I think that essentially the Iranians have time on their hands.
01:24:40.000I mean, they have got They hold, in my view, they hold a very strong card, and that is that no one can invade that country.
01:24:53.000Before we invaded Iraq, the United States was able to pose as invincible, because everyone feared what would happen if the United States were to invade.
01:25:05.000Well, we invaded Iraq, and now we're losing the war.
01:25:09.000So how can we then I don't think the Iranians will spill into Iraq, because I think as a result of this last election, the Iranians have Iraq sewed up.
01:25:20.000A lot of folks are saying there's nothing we can do.
01:25:22.000I don't think the Iranians will spill into Iraq, because I think as a result of this last election, the Iranians have Iraq sewed up.
01:25:32.000The Shia in Iraq, especially some of the parties.
01:26:09.000Um, day-to-day to the end of the year, I see just a progressive loss of control.
01:26:14.000The only way we can get control in Iraq is by sending over many more troops, and we can't do that without reinstituting... Do you agree with Secretary White two and a half years ago when he said 400,000 troops minimum?
01:26:28.000I think it's, uh, I would, you know, I think Shinseki said 300,000, so yeah, that's about right.
01:26:36.000But now stuff's deteriorated so bad, it's like Vietnam.
01:26:39.000I think you could keep... a lot of analysts say you keep injecting more troops, it's not going to help.
01:26:43.000Well, I think that if we were willing to inject enough troops, it would help.
01:26:48.000Because I think the Iraqis are so desperate for some stability now, that once they perceive That, in fact, the United States was re-stabilizing the country.
01:26:59.000I think they would swing over because... Well, that's what all the Pentagon analysts said.
01:27:02.000If we could get the power on and the water on in a few weeks, we would have won it, but not now.
01:27:07.000But, as you suggest, we missed a lot of good opportunities, and now it's very difficult to see how we catch up.
01:27:18.000You know, they talk about freedom, bringing freedom to Iraq, but...
01:27:22.000The reports are most of the baths have been put back into control, they've had a lot of draconian things, arresting thousands of people at checkpoints because their papers aren't in order.
01:27:31.000It seems to me that this policy has made enemies faster than they can be killed.
01:27:36.000Well, there's no question that we're making enemies, but I think one of the main reasons we're making enemies is because we don't have enough troops.
01:27:44.000And as a consequence, we're relying on air power to try to control the country.
01:27:49.000We bombed the living daylights out of Fallujah, we killed a lot of civilians, and that sort of thing doesn't make friends.
01:27:58.000So, what do you think the Bush administration is going to do?
01:28:01.000They've been sending out mixed signals.
01:28:04.000Really, the Bush administration, in my view, is so deceitful that it's impossible to To figure out what they're going to do because you can't trust anything they tell us.
01:28:20.000That you, yeah, can't trust anything they tell us.
01:28:22.000When we get back then I want to try to see where you think all this is going or if you have an idea for an exit strategy or what you think is going to happen.
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01:32:20.000And we're talking to Professor, as you can call him, Dr. Pelletier.
01:32:26.000And Steve, again, you were the chief analyst during the Iran-Iraq war for the CIA.
01:32:37.000Knowing what you know about Iraq, and what we were just talking about with the deception of the Bush Administration, I mean, they said before they got into office, oh, we're not going to invade Iraq, we're not for foreign adventures, and he chastised Al Gore during debates about it, and it turns out we got their own documents.
01:32:55.000They were planning before they even got into office to invade Iraq, and 9-11 was the pretext for that.
01:33:00.000So, trying to gauge, I know they say something different every day, but trying to gauge their actions, what do you guess, you know, educated guess, is going to happen in Iraq in, let's say, the next 18 months?
01:33:18.000I would say that it's definite that the Bush Administration will not send the number of troops over there that we need to have over there to pacify the country.
01:33:31.000I would say that if any of your listeners have loved ones in the National Guard or the Reserve that they should feel very sorry for them because these poor devils are not going to get out of there.
01:33:45.000They've already had their Tourists extended and it would not surprise me if the Pentagon extended them again.
01:33:54.000Well, they've extended them indefinitely, they announced a month ago.
01:33:58.000Well, I think they're practically, these people now are practically indentured slaves.
01:34:03.000It's just, as everyone knows, it's a backdoor draft.
01:34:08.000But the point is that we know what is needed to salvage that situation in Iraq.
01:34:47.000Uh, and now, if Rumsfeld were to, uh, agree to increase the army by 30,000 troops, it would be a mission that hasn't worked, and he's not going to do that.
01:34:59.000Yeah, but 30,000 is going to do nothing.
01:35:06.000That's not saying what we'll need by the end of the year.
01:35:09.000By the way, I mean all the military studies I've read, because I've looked at it quite a bit, I mean they knew this in World War II.
01:35:16.00022 missions, catch 22, and still about a third of the time you died.
01:35:21.000Vietnam, no more than 11 months, that's all you can force somebody to be in combat, and even then you can fight them maybe one week out of the month, or they break down.
01:35:30.000We're talking about sending troops, National Guard who weren't even trained, on search and destroy missions through heavily built up urban mount territory, five days out of the week, raiding dozens of homes a day.
01:35:43.000It's worse than that, because who are they fighting?
01:35:48.000The Iraqis went to war with the Iranians in 1980, and they've been fighting ever since.
01:35:53.000So we're sending, as you say, high school students over there to fight hardened killers, people who have never known anything but war.
01:36:05.000And worse, it's not a... You know, the strength of the U.S.
01:36:10.000Army and the military is the ability to stand off and kill from a distance.
01:36:17.000These high school kids have got to go into these cities, down these twisty streets, not knowing what's around the next corner.
01:36:25.000But sir, sir, I mean, they know, I mean, I, the published, you know, the military has studied how much you can use a soldier, and this is off the charts.
01:36:34.000They know that this is going to ruin these people, and they know within just another six months, they're going to, almost all of them are going to fall apart.
01:36:42.000Well, I would suspect that that's true, but go talk to the Bush administration.
01:38:02.000Yeah, well, it's, I mean, I've heard Michael Savage say put people in camps, put, I mean, it's just, it's just... No, I think your point is excellent about the high school kid.
01:38:11.000I was standing online at the post office the other day, and a mother was sending a package to her son who was in Iraq.
01:39:44.000And the military told him, we can't win this if you don't give us, you say, 300,000 or something?
01:39:48.000Well, I think the unfortunate thing is that if a general wants to stay in charge over there, he has to do what the bureaucrats tell him to do.
01:39:57.000If he argues, if he puts up some resistance, then he's out.
01:40:02.000So how long is this going, so how long do you see until, because again, I mean, I've had so many other analysts on, They're saying the next two years is going to end up being like Vietnam with people hanging off helicopters.
01:40:14.000Well, I don't know if it will get there that fast, but I go back to what I said before.
01:40:21.000Bush will not send any more troops over there.
01:40:24.000He will not send the required number of troops.
01:41:21.000Some of Bin Laden, the means to attack us.
01:41:25.000And I guess you were big honcho there at the CIA on Iraq and Iran back in the 80s.
01:41:31.000Sir, you told us our government really wasn't involved with Saddam, which I totally disagree with, because I've had a lot of people that were your colleagues on disagreeing with that.
01:41:41.000But let me ask you a question on this.
01:41:43.000Bin Laden, what's his connection to the CIA?
01:42:39.000Well, because he was helping in that Mujahideen effort.
01:42:44.000Yeah, well that's just the facts we've got here.
01:42:50.000I want to talk to Dan in Texas and a couple of other callers that are holding for you, but really, give me the time frame from your expertise on Iran and Iraq and the current situation and all of it.
01:43:03.000How long until we have the implosion in Iraq?
01:43:07.000And what do you think the exit strategy is going to be?
01:43:09.000Or will it just be keeping troops in forts so Bush can still declare victory?
01:43:15.000Well, the implosion has already taken place.
01:43:17.000And now, effectively, as I say, we're hunkered down inside the green zone and we're trying to... I don't really know what we're trying to do.
01:44:12.000I've interviewed reporters that are Arabs, but are Americans, but are with major magazines in this country, and they say, outside the green zone, they do not dare go five feet from their apartment, you know, to get a pizza without armed guards.
01:44:27.000Yeah, you're hearing the same thing I'm hearing.
01:44:31.000So, literally, ten feet outside the green zone, no one can... I mean... So that's failure right there!
01:44:43.000Don't ever let anybody tell any of your listeners it's not a failure.
01:44:49.000And so, is that why we're now hearing they may be backing off going into Iran?
01:44:53.000You know, these guys are crazy enough so that they might try to go into Iran, but If they were to go into Iran, then our difficulties would be compounded 100 times over.
01:45:05.000In other words, for us, it's a no-win situation.
01:45:09.000We can't win it, no matter what we do.
01:45:12.000But in the age where double-thinking and illusion is king, they can just tell us we won, and then we'll all feel good.
01:45:17.000Yeah, but you know, Karl Marx used to say there's such a thing as the laws of motion.
01:45:21.000In other words, there's such a thing as reality.
01:45:24.000And you can spin the story as much as you want.
01:45:28.000In the meantime, Mother Nature just goes grinding on and things happen.
01:45:32.000So eventually, the contradiction becomes so great that everything blows up.
01:45:37.000Yeah, but somebody who follows the Trotskyite view, the New York Times, Lord Rove, Lord Rove told the New York Times that we control reality.
01:45:47.000We're an empire now, and we'll change reality with an edict tomorrow, and then change it the next day.
01:45:53.000So, does that show a megalomaniacal insanity to start saying they control reality?
01:45:58.000Well, no, I think it's a fairly shrewd assessment of the Bush administration's control over the media here in the United States, but that doesn't say anything about Iraq.
01:46:07.000If we can't walk outside the green zone, then obviously we don't control reality outside the green zone.
01:46:15.000And as a consequence, sooner or later, what goes on in the streets of Baghdad is going to finish us.
01:46:24.000You know, how did the neocons that are on talk radio say that Bush is cutting government when we have the biggest budget ever, 2.6 trill?
01:46:51.000Mr. Peltier, I would be most interested in hearing your political, geopolitical, analytical view Of the recent actions by China with the huge purchase of oil and gas in Iran, the recent relationship it struck up with Venezuela, and its efforts... And also their defense strategy with Russia.
01:47:19.000My book, America's Oil Wars, goes into this quite deeply.
01:47:25.000My theory is One of the reasons we went to war with Iraq was because Saddam Hussein was threatening our control over the oil of the Persian Gulf.
01:47:39.000As you're aware, I'm talking to the listener now, Dan, it's becoming increasingly more and more difficult for countries to sew up supplies of oil.
01:47:51.000Uh, not only China is roving all over the world looking for oil, but so is India.
01:47:56.000Because of their industrial explosion.
01:48:01.000Suddenly, countries like Venezuela, which used to be, you know, third, fourth rate countries, now are, I won't say, well, their position is very much enhanced, because they have oil, people are coming to them, like the Chinese, looking for oil, and they therefore can thumb their nose at the United States.
01:48:25.000You know, we've already once tried to overthrow the regime of Hugo Chavez, and we did it, Because we recognize we're losing control of Benzoyl and oil.
01:48:36.000And my theory is we overthrew the regime of Saddam Hussein because we feared Saddam Hussein was not only going to deny us Iraq's oil, but the oil of the Persian Gulf.
01:48:48.000Well, specifically, going back to the weekend before our election in November, when China made the deal with Iran, They also released a statement to the Bush administration not to get to thinking that the 21st century would belong exclusively to America.
01:49:12.000Would you foresee China in any way aiding or abetting Iran in the event that...
01:49:23.000They've got 40,000 engineers there at any one time!
01:49:25.000I think that what we're going to... I think what we have to accept is that no matter what the Bush administration says, the United States does not rule the world.
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01:52:48.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:53:03.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:53:06.000We're talking to Professor Dr. Steve Pelletier, and I want to get to, I know we've got a bunch of phone calls, but he's got to leave us here in a few minutes, so I'll try to go to Jim and Radkin and others here in a second.
01:53:19.000But during the break, we were talking, sir, And again, you were a former CIA senior analyst at Langley during the Iran-Iraq War.
01:54:47.000Mr. Peltier, this seems to be going the way of the human animalistic instincts.
01:54:54.000But I was just wondering, out of curiosity, are our guardsmen being over there and all, do God bless them and God help them, I guess, but where are we going to get enough guardsmen Repeal the positions of the ones that are coming back.
01:55:11.000Yeah, Guardsmen's sign-up is at record lows.
01:55:14.000Yeah, I don't know where we're going to get them.
01:55:16.000By the way, I live in Pennsylvania too, and I know the Pennsylvanians are taking a really hard hit with this one.
01:56:40.000I'm not a very well-educated person on military affairs especially, but by the same token as Mr. Jones stated, just common sense, the poopy's gonna hit the fan sooner or later.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000Well, last hour, we had the former director, in the 1980s, of the CIA's entire analyst group, Dan, one of the chief advisors and professors of the Army War College, saying that there's a terror attack.
01:58:28.000He expects it'll be the government carrying it out.
01:58:34.000Are you starting to understand just how serious things really are?
01:58:44.000The police state is being put in place so the globalists can take everything you've got.
01:58:49.000Your children for a national draft, All these new taxation mechanisms with the national sales tax as a quote, reform on top of national toll roads.
01:59:03.000The new national ID card law, they're on the verge of passing.
02:00:04.000Because they got plans for a draft, the bills are introduced, and when they set a city ablaze in a bright flash, they're gonna draft your children, folks.
02:00:14.000They're going to do medical experiments on them.
02:00:16.000They're going to use them like toilet paper.
02:01:13.000And as you can sit there as a yuppie, denying everything, because you've got your little status symbols, you're in the process of being enslaved.
02:01:21.000You're in the process of being shackled.
02:01:23.000And all the slick packaging and space-age propaganda Can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
02:01:31.000All we can do is assess the serious trouble we're in in this crash landing and try to salvage something out of it.
02:01:39.000We've been put into a global crisis so they can bring in their new world order so Europe and the UN can look like the bad cop after America has done failing in Iraq and causing, starting a war with Iran and police state here at home.
02:01:53.000And the good cop's gonna come and it's gonna be even worse.
02:01:56.000Now that's how the chips fall, that's what we're facing.
02:02:00.000Gary and Tim and others will get to your calls, and the toll free number to join us on air is 1-800-259-9231.
02:02:05.000We'll get to Redkin and Vermont and others as well.
02:02:10.000I got just a whole stack of vital news and information that, believe me, is vital to the future of this Republic.
02:02:17.000We'll cover it when we return, and we're also scheduled to have somebody on from Ron Paul's office to talk about this beefing up of the national ID card legislation.
02:02:26.000That is a set to pass the house today unless there's a miracle so that's the Report for you as of this time on that.
02:02:37.000More details as we chronicle the criminal activities of the New World Order on the other side.
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02:02:45.000Hey folks, Alex Jones here, and I'm very excited to announce the release of my bombshell documentary film, 9-1-1 The Road to Tyranny on DVD.
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02:06:28.000Yeah, that was the petition in Texas the first hour?
02:06:34.000Yes, talking about all over the country, huge toll roads going in on existing roads, and how we're doing petitions here in Austin to recall the mayor.
02:06:44.000And we're very close to getting that done, and now there's reports in the newspaper of attempted bribery by city officials.
02:06:50.000Well, I tell you, it's prompted me to decide to start a petition in my own state here to kind of nip it in the bud before it even starts over here up in Utah.
02:06:59.000Well, it's happening all over the country.
02:08:23.000But for those that just joined us, this is the London Guardian.
02:08:26.000UK lines up Guantanamo-style torture reality show where seven Muslim men are being paid to let them torture them in a Guantanamo-style prison camp And this is all conditioning, folks.
02:08:39.000All of these shows, all of this programming.
02:08:41.000In fact, a few months ago, I did a TV show, you know, 10 minutes of the hour long program.
02:09:04.000Are you familiar with that Quiet Rage?
02:09:07.000Oh yeah, I'm familiar with how they gave people power and did a test and what like 70 plus percent of people would actually torture people to death in order to do so.
02:09:18.000It's amazing how it imitates in real life.
02:09:24.000Basically what they did was they took two volunteers, two groups, just like this story you're reading today.
02:09:31.000Some were made guards, the other were made prisoners.
02:09:33.000And the people that were made the guard just assumed such dictatorial power that, you know, these people were bailing out the ones that were the prisoners within 24 hours because the treatment to them was just so bad that the people just totally went torture crazy.
02:09:52.000And then they told them, they told them, this is actually a government program, we're really going to torture them.
02:10:22.000Very unethical, being paid for by our governments.
02:10:25.000Uh, so, uh, and then they, again, they got Threat Matrix 24, uh, CSI Miami, on all these shows.
02:10:32.000People are getting chips under their skin, they're being tortured, they're being tortured to death, and then a show called Spooks in England, we, we, we put the transcript of the show up on one of their episodes, they torture the terrorist's eight-year-old daughter, and then they're gonna kill her to stop the terrorist.
02:10:46.000And the moral of the story is, torturing children is good.
02:10:53.000And then, as well, it's to stop terrorists.
02:10:55.000But you just heard, during the last hour, the Chief Analyst of the CIA, in the 1980s, tell you that he thinks that if there's another terror attack, it's going to be the U.S.
02:11:46.000I mean, folks, if you've got a brain in your head... It's like Hitler's General Staff, you know, who'd gone along with it for a while, but now they're just going, man, this guy's completely insane!
02:11:57.000Once he, you know, really got the death farms cooking, you know, in the early 1940s.
02:12:21.000And when your son or daughter comes back with their arms or legs blown off and they're not getting treatment, you'll be calling going, Alex, you know, this couple of years from now, we're even on the air then, Alex, I used to laugh at you, but you're right, my little boy, they won't know, you know.
02:12:35.000And it's just, you might as well wake up now and stand with America.
02:13:50.000I listen with bated breath as you question people and then the pregnant pauses when their answer is off the wall, like when he said, speaking of the CIA fellow Pelletier you just interviewed, and I wanted to ask him, But what I was saying is when he answered the question about, or pro-offered that Osama was behind 9-1-1, I mean, I could hear you fall off your chair almost.
02:14:16.000But then later, he goes, well, the government's going to be behind the next one.
02:14:21.000Well, how come he didn't realize that was the case of 9-11 too?
02:14:25.000Well, he did say he'd been logged CIA.
02:14:29.000Well, it was very reluctantly that he admitted to what you were getting out of him as the CIA connection.
02:14:36.000Well, it took me years to wake up to the point I'm at.
02:14:38.000I mean, you know, these guys are having moral struggles right now.
02:14:43.000I want to talk to these people off air.
02:14:46.000I wanted to ask him how he felt safe to talk in the light of John O'Neill, who had leaked W1999I to Craig Pallas, and then Then was killed or maybe dead already.
02:15:01.000That was the Deputy FBI Director, yeah.
02:15:04.000Right, but also... Who told British TV the government's going to let Bin Laden attack us so they can get the oil in Iraq.
02:15:23.000And apparently he was one of twenty-five flag officers back in ninety-five that was going to charge Clinton with treason for having leaked... Yeah, and then witnesses would say men would walk in in military uniforms, gunshots, they'd walk in, oh, the people committed suicide, oh, they drowned in their canoes.
02:15:43.000Yeah, they said he fell out of a canoe in the Potomac.
02:15:46.000Well, he had a place right down the road from me.
02:15:48.000Look, he's the one, and I have this directly from the CIA, directly from the person that released the video.
02:15:53.000Directly, and it's now been admitted, he's the guy that released the flare footage of them killing the Davidians.
02:15:59.000And he just said, look, our government's not here to kill Americans, and I'm not going to be part of this, and so he had to go bye-bye.
02:16:15.000Yeah, they've killed, now it's like 50-something microbiologists.
02:16:19.000I didn't know if, the reception up here on shortwave is a little rough sometimes, but I didn't know if the biochemist had come up in your conversation.
02:17:13.000To listen to it, it should make you very happy.
02:17:18.000Hey, uh, I was in a major supermarket last Friday, and this mother had a boy there about a year and a half, and another one about three, and she said to these two children, which were in one of those carts that looks like an automobile, get the rifle, get the rifle!
02:17:36.000And then she starts saying, shoot, shoot, shoot!
02:17:39.000She said, oh, you like that when I say shoot, shoot.
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02:22:49.000We're made to think that Israel's getting rich off this money, but it's the British and rich American bankers.
02:22:58.000Well, I mean, Israel, they're admittedly trying to build a pipeline into Israel to give them oil, and I wasn't familiar with them, and I know Israel gets a lot of money, so does Egypt, but I haven't heard the details, so I really can't comment.
02:24:43.000You know, I want you to think about something for a minute.
02:24:47.000I don't know if this is a connection or not, and it may be just a coincidence, but think about one of the last times the United States was duped into a major war.
02:24:56.000It was done In part, by a guy named Winston Churchill.
02:25:02.000Now, I don't know if there's a connection here.
02:25:05.000No, Churchill, that's his Indian name.
02:25:08.000I mean, that was an English name, and somewhere down the line, you know, one of the Native Americans he's related to took the name of Churchill.
02:25:16.000I personally think what he's trying to do, and this is just my opinion, I believe Ward Churchill is trying to create a race war.
02:25:22.000I just drove by CU, coming back home from my workout, and I gotta tell you, man, these All these socialists, well I don't know if you want to call them that, all these kids are just high-fiving everybody and all this stuff.
02:25:35.000It's like they're ready to go take up arms.
02:25:40.000And look, it makes me mad when somebody comes out with a comment like, well the people that died there, you know, it's because they're evil.
02:25:50.000It's because, you know, they were part of the oppression of the third world.
02:25:53.000Folks, the globalists carried out 9-11.
02:25:56.000The globalists are using it as a pretext to invade and hurt those third world countries, and this guy plays right into it.
02:26:02.000Oh, it's a valiant, a bunch of them do.
02:26:04.000It's a valiant fight by the, you know, the underclass.
02:26:07.000You know, that's more of that fake leftist garbage that was written up by the government.
02:26:14.000And look, the reason I get in Churchill's face is that I've seen the guy in action here in Austin.
02:26:18.000I mean, he is really an arrogant bully.
02:26:33.000You know, the dog gets mad, the fur puffs out.
02:26:36.000I mean, when I just see one of these punks, it gets me mad.
02:26:38.000Do you think Ward Churchill is in some way affiliated, either directly or indirectly, with the globalists?
02:26:46.000I just think, you know, he's on a power trip, a little darling of certain groups, and, you know, just thinks he's God's gift to the planet.
02:26:53.000And I think his sickening statements, you know, about people who are dead, makes me want to puke on him.
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02:31:03.000The websites are InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
02:31:06.000Our Earth has been turned into a prison planet.
02:31:09.000We've had Congressman Ron Paul, our America's congressman on, I don't know, probably 50 times over the years, but I'm honored to have his press secretary, Jeff Dice, on with us, one of the busiest men in America, who really passionately has been fighting with the congressman, fighting against the expansion of the national ID card.
02:31:29.000The first national ID card passed in December of last year was bad enough, and it was, quote, to stop illegal aliens, and of course it actually gave waivers to them, and started telling the states to accept their ID cards.
02:31:41.000Made it easier, quote, for terrorists to attack us.
02:31:43.000You can read Ron Paul's analysis of this at Infowars.com.
02:31:46.000And he goes over the five things this does.
02:31:50.000And it creates, really, a Pan-American ID card and more federal standardization.
02:31:56.000Just talking to Jeff during the break, and he was giving me a rundown.
02:32:03.000Well, what we're facing is, as usual, political doublespeak.
02:32:07.000What we're facing is a Trojan horse that walks and talks and sounds like immigration control, but in reality just applies mostly to U.S.
02:32:15.000citizens, and the bad guys won't pay any heed to it at all.
02:32:21.000And the Congressman talked about that.
02:32:23.000He talks about how, you know, it's got, you know, this comment about, you know, illegal aliens, but no enforcement.
02:32:30.000And when they passed, say, more border patrol than the last bill, then the Secretary of Homeland Security takes that money out.
02:32:37.000And you were telling me during the break that Christian groups are out pushing this, that a lot of conservative groups have really bought this bait hook, line, and sinker.
02:33:22.000Well, I heard a top neocon on the radio this morning saying, the Democrats are going to be mad first Bush cuts the budget, actually expands it, but double think, and now he's going to stop the illegal aliens.
02:33:33.000Yeah, well, he's not going to do that and no one's even pretending.
02:33:37.000This bill unfortunately has duped a lot of people on the right, a lot of Christian conservatives, Because of the rhetoric.
02:33:44.000I mean, as you know, how many people really have the time or the inclination to know what's going on and read bills and know what's going on in the House floor from day to day amongst voters?
02:35:09.000Redefine terrorism in broad new terms that include members of firearms rights and anti-abortion groups or other such groups as determined by whoever is in power.
02:35:20.000Authorize the Secretary of Defense of Homeland Security to unilaterally expand the information included in the driver's license including such biometric information as retina scans and DNA information.
02:35:36.000Well, what it all boils down to is, no matter what anybody says, the effect of all of this is to make it a lot easier for the government to know where you are, where you're going, where you've been.
02:35:48.000And you have to step back and ask yourself, apart from the rhetoric, and look at the reality, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
02:35:53.000And I think anybody who cares about freedom agrees It's a very bad thing, and it's the hallmark.
02:36:00.000Domestic travel restrictions are a hallmark of authoritarianism.
02:36:04.000You find that historically in authoritarian countries, not quote-unquote free ones.
02:36:10.000Well, it's a hallmark of serious despotism.
02:36:15.000And it's, once again, it's Congress cowering to an administration and giving all sorts of power to the Homeland Security Secretary to do whatever he thinks is best at the time without the requirement that any new laws be passed.
02:36:30.000So that's the kind of thing my boss is always afraid of, that Congress should never give this open-ended, unilateral power to administrative agencies.
02:36:39.000Like Homeland Security to make decisions that Congress doesn't even vote on, doesn't even approve one way or the other.
02:36:44.000I mean, you know, for all those Republican types out there, just remember, you know, that Republicans won't be in charge of the administration forever.
02:36:52.000You know, Hillary might be President in 08, and she can name whoever she wants as Homeland Security.
02:37:00.000People who think that they're going to be in power forever in Washington have very short memories.
02:37:04.000Yeah, so even if folks are delusional and think Bush is this wonderful conservative, we're building mechanisms that are a dream for Socialist Democrats.
02:37:12.000Unquestionably, and if anyone accuses you or anyone else of crying wolf or being alarmist on this, You know what, it's a lot better to be Crying Wolf than to be proven 10 or 20 or 30 years later that you were right.
02:37:26.000But I mean, forget 10 or 20 years with the TSA, which this system's going to go into buses and cars and all other types of licenses and jobs.
02:37:34.000I've got Ridge on videotape saying it's going to be just like the airplanes, and if you've got some bad data out of these hundreds and now they're saying thousands of different databases, a lot of it corrupted, you're not going to be able to have a job!
02:37:51.000States have two years to quote unquote conform.
02:37:55.000And while you'd think that in any sort of free country, states would be clamoring and very defiant about this federal mandate, this federal authority over them.
02:38:05.000States ought to be saying, hey, we set the standards for diversification, that's none of your business.
02:38:08.000But most states have put this in a decade ago.
02:38:10.000I mean, most states already have this.
02:38:13.000Now, what about this Pan-American Union situation, starting with Canada and Mexico, unifying the database there?
02:38:23.000And then on top of it is this comment out of the bill about DNA information.
02:38:27.000Well, the Pan-American aspect is, you know, it's supposed to be a North American homeland security device.
02:38:34.000And what it could mean is, you know, that information goes to Mexican government officials.
02:38:39.000And as my colleague pointed out, imagine how corrupt some of them could be.
02:38:42.000And imagine how they could sell that to identity thieves.
02:38:45.000I mean, let's say you're social, you're addressed.
02:38:47.000You know, your birth dates, your birth records, all that sort of stuff.
02:38:50.000Well, the Mexican government isn't corrupt.
02:38:53.000I mean, here we are giving Homeland Security information to the very government that is most responsible for our Homeland Security problem.
02:39:21.000Well, I shouldn't say sail through, but I don't think there's enough Democrats and philosophical Republicans to defeat this in the House.
02:39:29.000But the number one thing to do is give your Senators an earful and tell them that you don't want to be tracked and monitored.
02:39:38.000Well, on top of it, Ron Paul here in his analysis says it doesn't do anything to stop the illegals, but it's being billed as that.
02:39:45.000Right, and that's unfortunately the way things work up here.
02:39:47.000Things are often the opposite of what they appear, or what they seem, or how they're touted.
02:39:53.000But, you know, it's incumbent on all of us.
02:39:55.000I mean, sure, it's a tough road, but it's incumbent on all of us to call a spade a spade, and to the extent we can, shine a spotlight on these people who vote for it.
02:40:04.000It's amazing, I mean, the new Freedom Initiative, I mean, we know they passed it last year, now the Congressman in your office is fighting the funding of that.
02:40:16.000We're actually pretty happy because a lot of mainstream Republicans actually joined us, have joined us in our efforts.
02:40:23.000Some of the states where these nascent state programs have been created, most notably Texas and Illinois, we've been able to get a lot of members of Congress from both those states, including people like DeLay and Hastert, who are obviously big names, to join us in coming out against the program, because if you talk to parents in states where these programs exist already, they hate it, and they make their congressmen aware of that.
02:40:47.000That's a fight where we've really gotten out ahead of the curve and for once we're fighting the creation of something rather than trying to get rid of something that's already created.
02:40:59.000I mean, imagine if Bill Clinton said, we're going to forcibly, psychologically test everybody from age 4 to 18, and then second phase, all pregnant women, with guidelines written by the drug companies.
02:41:10.000Conservatives would pull their hair out.
02:41:14.000They say it's good, unless you're a G. Gordon Liddy, who, God bless him, came out against it, and then they told him, hey, your radio show's gone.
02:41:22.000Well, that's why partisanship is just an aftermath of freedom.
02:41:26.000You know, there's no other way to say it.
02:41:27.000If people don't have the simple integrity to see through what, you know, supposedly their guys are doing as opposed to the other side's guys, then that might go a long way to explaining the mess we're in.
02:41:39.000Jeff, look, everybody I talk to is saying it.
02:41:42.000How do we get Ron Paul to run for governor in Texas?
02:42:44.000Well, I mean, I think the governorship, I mean, the Senate would be a big deal, too, because you could really block things and bring things up in the Senate, but, I mean, just, and obviously a governor doesn't have a lot of power in Texas, the lieutenant governor really hasn't, but as a figurehead, he could, I mean, Ron Paul could do so much in the second most populous state economically, the second most powerful as well, I mean, he could do a lot here and then use that governorship as a platform for something larger!
02:43:57.000He's got the best voting record out there, bar none.
02:43:59.000How do we fight these national toll roads that the feds are manipulating the states to put in, And of course, you know, the nightmare in Houston and Austin and all the corruption there with the toll roads.
02:44:15.000Well, the number one battle is to You know, prevent this idea that all road funding has to be federal.
02:44:24.000You know, states have long ago just sort of shrugged their shoulders and relinquished control to the feds when it comes to road money and they're all addicted to this transportation money.
02:44:45.000So, you know, you've got to reject the governmental solutions and start promoting things like private roads and private property and don't let governments just feel like they can pave a big swath from Mexico to Canada across our country.
02:45:34.000Absolutely, and if it was a mistake to go in, then it's also a mistake to stay in.
02:45:41.000So he would like to see authority turned over to whoever's going to end up governing there.
02:45:47.000It's not the United States' place to occupy or run Iraq.
02:45:54.000In the final equation, HR 418, still call your House members, but go ahead and start calling the Senate.
02:46:00.000We don't have an opinion companion bill number yet, but it's going to the Senate.
02:46:04.000We could defeat this beefing up of the national ID card there.
02:46:07.000And the final vote on the House side on this bill will likely not be until tomorrow, so there's still some time to make a phone call to your House people.
02:46:18.000Because then at least they know we're watching them.
02:46:32.000He is just working tirelessly with the Congressman to fight all of this.
02:46:38.000Speaking of Matrix of Evil, That's a two-hour video, and about 30 minutes of it is different, an interview I did with Ron Paul, parts of a speech he gave where he says those that want to build world government run Washington, where he talks about what's happening with the economy, where he gets into the Iraq War.
02:46:54.000This is a real conservative, most conservative voting record, where he breaks down all the facts.
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02:52:05.000The same editor that helped me make Matrix of Evil and Police State, Three Total Enslavement, the quality of those, helped George make this film.
02:53:03.000People all over are realizing what's happening.
02:53:06.000You heard the former top CIA analyst saying the government's probably going to be behind a terror attack in America in the last hour.
02:53:12.000I mean, people are finally starting to come out of the woodwork and come out of the shadows to expose this.
02:53:19.000Alright, I'm sure you know that a car bomb exploded in Madrid.
02:53:22.000A car bomb has exploded here in the Madrid Conference Center, injuring at least 31 people.
02:53:27.000We covered this in the first hour, but it's important to recap it.
02:53:30.000Before a royal visit, Spanish police say a caller claimed to be from the Basque militants.
02:53:38.000ETA told a newspaper the group was planning to explode a device in the city.
02:53:43.000The blast occurred at 8.30 GMT near the Juan Carlos Convention Center.
02:53:50.000So about three in the morning here, on the proposed venues for Madrid's 2012 Olympic bid, Spanish King Juan Carlos and Queen Sophie have been due to visit the center.
02:54:04.000This continual tribal warfare going on between the Basque and the Spanish, just like we got tribal warfare between the Palestinians and Israelis, it's never going to stop, no matter what we do.
02:54:18.000I guess until one group just disappears.
02:54:22.000World Cup 2006 abuse for mega surveillance project is out of the register.
02:54:28.000Germany's football authorities have been accused of big brother tactics over their decision to incorporate RFID chips into tickets for World Cup 2006.
02:54:39.000Around 3.7 million tickets are to be sold in four online sales rounds, the last of 15 April 2006.
02:54:45.000In the first sales around 160,000 fans applied for 1 million tickets covering all 64 matches.
02:54:52.000To apply for a ticket you have to give your name, address, nationality, which team you want to support, and your bank details.
02:54:59.000You must also supply your ID or passport number and your birthday.
02:55:04.000Assuming you're successful, you receive a fully personalized ticket containing your RFID chip that enables authorities to check the ticket against your passport.
02:55:13.000Very little identification resides on the chip.
02:55:15.000The identity check is conducted against a database of the German Football Association.
02:55:21.000And that's going to be life here in America.
02:55:23.000You try to go to Disney World or Sea World, they hand scan you all over the country.