In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Jones is joined by Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt to talk about the government's latest ploy to get your guns and ammunition. Big Brother Media's Big Brother cover-ups.
00:00:34.000Your host will be live for the next three hours.
00:00:38.000Coming up in the next hour, Michael Markavich.
00:00:40.000He's the leader of the Christian group.
00:00:43.000Many of them facing 47 years in prison.
00:00:45.000The judge says the trial goes ahead to its fruition.
00:00:50.000And they have videotaped, the police have videotaped, they have videotaped of them in an outfest, simply praying on a street corner in an authorized protest zone, and for that they face 47 years in prison.
00:01:29.000We have Ron Paul's office on it to talk about the DNA databases in it to get driver's license, creating the Pan-American Union ID cards, going after gun owners.
00:01:40.000Giving the White House unlimited power above all laws.
00:01:44.000That was tucked into the bill as well.
00:01:47.000So Larry Pratt, The head of Gun Owners of America will be joining us to talk about the deception that's been foisted again against conservatives, telling us that, oh, it's to stop illegal aliens.
00:02:00.000This bill had nothing to do with it, but again, that fooled the general public.
00:02:05.000So, that is coming up, as I said, in about 30 minutes from now, to be precise.
00:02:13.000Exactly 30 minutes and 50 seconds from now we'll be joined by Larry Pratt.
00:02:23.000scientists say they are told to alter findings.
00:02:27.000More than 200 fish and wildlife researchers cite cases where conclusions were reversed to weaken protections and favor businesses of survey finds.
00:02:38.000I can also remember hundreds of cases where you falsified evidence, where you released lynxes, or where you released wolves, or where you released mountain lions, to then say, oh, there's an endangered species in the area, so we need to take people's property.
00:03:00.000So there's lots of fraud going on, and we'll be Covering that, and a story here out of the Associated Press, biometric devices can verify age, and they want to pass a federal law where you have to biometrically scan every time you get on the internet.
00:03:17.000This will keep the children safe, and of course, track everything you're doing.
00:03:24.000You say you just won't get on the computer?
00:03:26.000Well, you'll be doing this to buy and sell as well, part of your new national ID card.
00:03:32.000And they're going to have an anti-terror test to follow winds and determine airborne paths in New York City.
00:03:38.000Of course, the government has killed people before in New York City with different biological tests they've done, but they say this test is going to be entirely safe.
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00:05:31.000Homeland Security, executive orders, forced vaccinations, the new prison economy, the Total Information Society, the Pan-American Union, federal gun grabs, government-run white slavery rings, and much, much more.
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00:08:28.000We don't look at issues via their labels, Republican or Democrat.
00:08:33.000We look at it versus freedom or tyranny.
00:08:37.000Does it give us more freedom or less freedom?
00:08:40.000And once you get past the rhetoric of the Republican and Democratic parties in this country, you find out they're all vacationing together, voting together, playing golf together, and laughing at us, the American people.
00:08:56.000Looting the economy, looting our pension funds, looting the Social Security Fund, scamming us, dismantling the Bill of Rights, and the Constitution.
00:09:08.000But so many people are caught up in what I call the ball game or gladiatorial mindset of Ford vs. Chevy, Coke vs. Pepsi, Republican vs. Democrat.
00:09:22.000When to use that analogy further, the same company, the same crime syndicate owns it all.
00:09:28.000It's a staged game, a staged boxing match with the winners predetermined, the losers predetermined.
00:09:37.000And once you realize that, I think you're going to get angry, folks.
00:09:44.000You know, people are emailing me going, Alex, you said a National ID card passed in December of 2004.
00:09:51.000None of you type in National ID card passed, you'll find the articles, AP, Reuters, Washington Post, USA Today, telling you that a National ID card did indeed pass.
00:10:04.000The Senate on December 16th, the House on December 7th of the last month of 2004.
00:10:11.000So why then are we seeing fresh headlines of National ID Card passes the House yesterday?
00:10:39.000And then, so they've just expanded the National ID Card for a Pan-American Union ID for DNA testing and databasing when you get a driver's license.
00:10:51.000Now, they're not going to implement this overnight.
00:11:31.000It has a provision on the bill that says that the President is above the law and can circumvent any federal laws.
00:11:37.000And it mentions a fence to be built along the border over a few miles.
00:11:43.000But then when the lawyers at the, even in Republican Congress, men and women's offices looked at it, it clearly says nationwide and sets the precedent.
00:11:54.000And they did this sneakiness when they passed the first national ID card, what you knew as driver's license standardization, in December of last year.
00:12:04.000They said it's to stop illegal aliens because they know that's wildly popular and wildly constitutional.
00:12:12.000In major polls, 80 plus percent of Americans, including 60 plus percent of Hispanics, aren't against these wide open borders.
00:12:30.000Miserably, the facts have come home to roost and Hispanics aren't buying it.
00:12:36.000And so they know that it's the key issue with most Americans.
00:12:41.000And so every type of nightmare legislation they bring forward and then try to pass and pass has platitudes and billboard-type propagandistic statements tagged onto it.
00:12:59.000But in truth, it does nothing to stop illegal immigration.
00:13:02.000In fact, the National ID Card legislation passed in December of last year actually gives a large portion of the amnesty legislation Bush has been trying to pass for four years, it actually puts a lot of that into law.
00:13:18.000Telling the states and cities and banks and businesses, you will accept the consular matricula cards issued now by 40 plus countries.
00:13:27.000Again, I've been saying 30 countries for a long time, now it's over 40.
00:13:31.000That you will accept these, that basically are just a step up from stuff you get in a Cracker Jack box.
00:13:42.000But forget falsify, anybody can wander in to the Polish, or Mexican, or Russian, or Venezuelan, or Nicaraguan, or Chinese embassies and get one of these for a small fee.
00:13:54.000You can get multiple copies and any name you want and then go give them to other people.
00:14:00.000States and the Feds and everybody are accepting these.
00:14:17.000Well, they did that again in this piece of legislation.
00:14:22.000When the Republicans and the Democrats got caught Passing the National I.D.
00:14:26.000Card last December, they said, don't worry, once we found the subsections that actually made the borders wide open, don't worry, we're going to pick it up in the next session in O5 and we'll fix it then.
00:14:37.000And it's like they cut one of our legs off, and then we said, you cut our leg off.
00:14:42.000They said, don't worry, we'll fix it the next session, and they just hacked another leg off.
00:14:52.000And, uh, most people don't read bills, they don't analyze legislation, they don't spend their lives doing this, so they just hear the neocons on talk radio and the CNNs and the Foxes of the world announcing, you know, the Democrats going, how dare you have this immigration bill?
00:15:06.000You know, they play the part of the good cop.
00:15:33.000The last bill said that they were going to hire 2,000 more border patrol in this omnibus intelligence act, known as the 9-11 bill.
00:15:42.000And then actually when it funded the 2,000 additional, the day after, Ridge said, we're not going to use that money for more border patrol.
00:15:52.000And then there's this mention in here about this fence and a small area to be built to stop illegals and allowing the presidency, the executive branch, to go above any laws that were in place.
00:16:08.000But then you read the bill, the subsection, and it clearly says in any case.
00:16:16.000And World Net Daily has written about this.
00:16:18.000Homeland Chief, to waive all laws, is the headline.
00:16:26.000And then they talk about a spokesman for Representative Duncan Hunt, a Republican in California, a supporter of the bill, whose district includes the border area, said he could not comment on the scope of the measure's language, but he emphasized the need to construct the barrier as soon as possible to shut down a potential entry point for terrorists.
00:16:43.000There is an urgent priority to finish the three-mile fence, said Joe Casper.
00:16:49.000For several years, we've been going back and forth from the California Coastal Commission to finish up this border fence with little success.
00:16:56.000But Jim Harper, a former Judiciary Committee staffer who now serves as Director of Information Policy Studies for the Libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, believes the way the bill is written does not limit the Secretary's powers to removing environmental impediments.
00:17:13.000Taking judicial review away is quite dramatic, he told Roland Daily.
00:17:17.000The Secretary, under a strict reading, could waive any law and conceivably detain people, wiretap, the list would go on and on of the laws that could be waived.
00:17:29.000Harper said he objects to the bill being run through so quickly which limits participation in the process to only the most aggressive players in Congress.
00:17:37.000It's really difficult to write legislation well, he said, which is the reason we have a slow, deliberative process Here we are not having that process and the result is shoddily written legislation.
00:17:58.000But one thing we need to remember is we are looking within the limits of the Secretary of Homeland Security what he deemed necessary to finish fences and roads and to, for the sake of national security, Casper said.
00:18:10.000And then we have the subsection posted.
00:18:14.000Then I have Ron Paul talking about it.
00:18:17.000I have Donors of America head Larry Pratt.
00:18:24.000I have liberal organizations talking about it.
00:18:28.000Immigration bill sparks furor among some House Republicans, gun owners, and civil libertarians.
00:18:35.000Controversial new legislation billed as immigration reform has put congressional Republicans in a disarray over a variety of reasons ranging from Christian refugees to national ID cards.
00:18:48.000According to senior house agents who spoke only on condition of anonymity.
00:18:53.000Well, Ron Paul's office didn't speak on the condition of anonymity two days ago.
00:18:57.000Several factors of the Republican Party are set up in arms over Republican-authorized H.R.
00:19:05.000418, or the REAL ID Act, scheduled to go to the floor, now past the floor.
00:19:12.000The key players, according to aides, are Chris Smith, Ron Paul, Lincoln Diaz-Bollart, Chairman Simpson Brenner, and a very conservative Republican congressman with strong ties to Falwell and Dobson.
00:19:28.000Congressman Chris Smith, according to sources, is opposed to the Asylum Revision Act of 418, which could affect Christians persecuted, and it goes on and on.
00:19:43.000Alright, we'll come back and take a few calls.
00:19:46.000And we've got Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America coming on to analyze this with us and chronicle it.
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00:24:18.000One of the local talk stations here that does not screen their calls was discussing the 9-11 FAA stuff that recently came out.
00:24:27.000Ancient news that That they knew about plans of hijackers to get on board planes and fly them into buildings and that Rice knew all about it.
00:24:37.000Absolutely, but what's really encouraging is a lot of people started calling in and I've been calling into that show every time I drive to work.
00:24:45.000I call in and constantly harp on the issue and one of the talk show hosts on it is a total lib and he's all of a sudden starting to get the idea.
00:24:55.000Today, no less than 20 or 30 people were finally saying the things that I've been saying for a long time.
00:25:02.000And I got in and I obviously mentioned 9-11 Road to Tyranny, the Masters of Terror, Operation Northwoods, 9-11 in plain sight.
00:25:11.000And so, you know, the frustration that I've been having is finally being lifted because people are waking up.
00:25:28.000But cut their teeth with something like 9-11 in plain sight.
00:25:32.000And then go on to the meat and potatoes like Road to Tyranny and Masters of Terror.
00:25:35.000Because sometimes that might be way too hardcore for those guys.
00:25:39.000I'm telling you, the frustration is lifted, and I see a huge awakening with at least 20 people saying that.
00:25:46.000There's no doubt the word is getting out.
00:25:49.000I've done probably 2,000 interviews now in the last three and a half years since 9-11, and maybe one caller out of 30 calls in and disagrees with me on shows where the host is attacking me.
00:26:15.000No, the truth is taking over, and you're going to lose!
00:26:19.000Well, thank God that you're out there, Alex, because you woke me up to it.
00:26:23.000I knew about the New World Order, but I didn't know there was a Hegelian dialectic.
00:26:26.000I thought it was a left-wing thing, and I am totally awake to it, and I'm just glad that I Finally got up to it and saw your stuff, and it awakened me very quickly.
00:26:44.000I was listening to kind of Howard Stern this morning.
00:26:47.000He was mentioning Michael Powell and those guys want to make it to where, you know, the public meetings that they hold for FCC for regulations and things, they want to now make them private.
00:28:04.000Well, now there's a New York Times article today and a few others about the lawsuits to release all those tapes.
00:28:09.000So here's the government first saying they didn't exist, and now here's the lawsuits where they admit they exist, but they don't want to release them.
00:28:16.000Well, already the firefighters had some of those tapes and did release them.
00:28:21.000But on top of it, then we have firefighters finding three of the black boxes, which are actually orange boxes with big black stripes on them.
00:28:56.000Really enjoyed Mr. Huffman, uh, the last hour.
00:28:59.000And you guys got into something that really piqued my interest, but you weren't able to talk about it much because of the lack of time.
00:29:05.000Speak to the strategic reasons, excuse me, about World Trade Center as opposed to 30 Rock or Empire State Building.
00:29:13.000How did they decide on those, on that complex?
00:29:15.000Because you didn't have a whole giant area owned by one person, and, uh, That's the main reason, and because the Rockefeller family, who the Port Authority had owned it, and it just sold it to Silverstein.
00:29:28.000And so it was a huge area that they controlled, so they could really have a lot of damage, and play it out kind of like a movie script, uh, throughout an eight-hour period.
00:29:39.000As you know, I think it was October last year, the federal judge in the East Coast said that the, uh, military couldn't inoculate any more soldiers, because- But they're still doing it!
00:29:48.000Stay there, we'll get back to you later.
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00:33:52.000We're about to go to Larry Pratt, the executive director and the head honcho at a wonderful organization, one of the true only gun organizations out there that isn't a Trojan horse, Gun Owners of America.
00:34:06.000We'll be going to Larry here in just a few minutes to talk about the mass deception going on.
00:34:11.000We had Ron Paul's office on two days ago as the bill was being hotly debated, an expansion of the national ID card.
00:34:18.000They've passed both versions of this, the one they passed in December and the beefing up that just passed the House, now going to the Senate, by lying to the people saying it has to do with illegal immigration.
00:34:30.000A total fraud actually makes it easier for the illegal aliens to operate.
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00:36:53.000Larry, I mean, we're more busy now than we were under Bill Clinton, my friend.
00:36:58.000Well, I haven't noticed it getting any easier.
00:37:00.000And they're getting what they want under Lord Bush.
00:37:05.000The measure that was passed for the so-called standardized driver's license is truly the platform for a national ID card.
00:37:17.000And I just don't know what it's going to take to try to get through to folks that if, you know, Ted Kennedy has trouble getting on an airplane, two or three times before he finally is able to clear the matter up, something you or I would never be able to do.
00:37:35.000It's now seven different members of Congress that can't fly.
00:37:39.000And at least Kennedy had the chutzpah to call the head of the Homeland Security and get it straightened out.
00:38:03.000Well, the same thing happens a lot to gun buyers.
00:38:06.000And there's no reason why that couldn't get a whole lot worse.
00:38:10.000Either because the information gets worse, or because whoever's in charge of the information decides to make it worse.
00:38:18.000You know, what happens if we get a President Hillary Clinton, or somebody else that really has it in for gun owners?
00:38:27.000We can watch ourselves get put on all kinds of watch lists, and frankly, the time could come when you might have trouble getting your driver's license, your national ID card, Because you've got some problem in there that some bureaucrat really doesn't like about you.
00:38:44.000Now, they admit this national system to have jobs, to travel, to own a car, all of this is going to run according to the same system as the TSA under Infrastructure Protection Act and the new Maritime Administration.
00:38:58.000These hundreds of private databases full of errors being indexed and being checked And we're talking about just a nightmare system, but look, Ron Paul's analysis of the bill that passed the House yesterday, now going to the Senate.
00:39:15.000He talks about DNA databases to get a driver's license, a Pan-American Union ID card, it going after gun owners and pro-lifers.
00:39:25.000Well, the bill does provide clearly, we're not having to impute to Someday when they might have a Pan-American card, but it talks right there in the bill about sharing the data with the Canadians and the Mexicans.
00:39:41.000The Canadians are not exactly our political allies, and the Mexicans operate somewhere between hostile and just downright corrupt.
00:39:52.000And by the way, every time they accuse us of being racist, Anybody in the United States that wants to effectively close our borders to illegal immigration.
00:40:01.000They're southern borders like North Korea's border.
00:41:18.000You wouldn't be telling the people that live there that They better not break the law if they try to stop somebody from violating their property and crossing the border across their property just because people are getting mugged and raped as the illegals stream across.
00:41:46.000So we're absolutely turning away from that.
00:41:50.000I'm not convinced that the FBI would be able to deal any more effectively with the information that it had about September 11th now than it would have then.
00:42:00.000Why don't we make sure that's been done?
00:42:02.000Why don't we get the Immigration Service to actually turn people away with bad visas?
00:42:24.000Well, Ridge is used to telling us what to do, because twice legislation has been passed saying arm the pilots, and they are so hostile to armed pilots that I just saw this latest outrage.
00:42:57.000Well, he was pulled aside and he's been put on a watch list because he was carrying, since he was off-duty, they thought it was horrendous that he was carrying some ammo in his pocket that he would use Were he on duty for the authorized firearm that he would be carrying?
00:43:41.000Yeah, well, I'm not sure what these words mean anymore in our present context.
00:43:46.000I used to think it was a conservative position, conserving the freedom protected by the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment, but maybe you're right.
00:43:56.000Our allies on this have ranged from the American Conservative Union to the American Civil Liberties Union.
00:44:03.000I must admit, that makes me a little bit nervous.
00:44:06.000But what about when Boxer came out a year and a half ago when this arming the pilots thing really heated up, and Bush said, we're not arming any of them.
00:44:15.000We trust them with the plane, you know, with hundreds of switches and all this.
00:44:19.000Why not trust them with a gun and a little armored safe they can get to inside the cockpit?
00:44:23.000And Bush said, OK, we'll arm 2% if they can jump through all these hoops.
00:44:27.000And the one guy that jumps through all the hoops has to bring his bullets into the airport I mean, it's insane!
00:44:33.000That's how we're going to deal with the security problems from September 11.
00:44:38.000We're going to have the American people treated like a herd of cattle, given their ID number.
00:44:45.000There's a lot of talk now that this thing will end up, including thanks to the ability of the Homeland Security Administration to write the regs, it'll end up with one of these radio frequency ID chips.
00:44:59.000And the technology of those so far that they're talking about using for the State Department is so bad that probably my 13-year-old grandson could hack it and get all the information of everybody passing by within 30 feet.
00:45:13.000Well, that's the point of all of this is it's about a cashless grid.
00:45:19.000This will all be read by the garbage truck This is mainstream, folks.
00:45:24.000When it comes to your house, it's about tracking our consumption and catching us if we don't pay the National Sales Tax once that all starts.
00:45:31.000It has nothing to do with terrorism, folks.
00:45:34.000It's about matching the chip in your driver's license or your ID card when you're at the cash register and then matching that with the stuff that goes to the landfill to find out if you're cheating on the National Sales Tax.
00:45:45.000And again, that's their own internal documents, Larry.
00:45:47.000You know, wouldn't it be neat if before they impose this on us, they set the same standard for themselves?
00:45:53.000For example, how about if we had the same level of transparency for Kofi Annan and company during the oil for food scandal?
00:46:32.000Well, we can hope that the Senate, which has always been a little bit more cranky, and does have rules that make it easier to stop things, let's hope that we can find Some members of the Senate who would like to take advantage of those rules and run some of this stuff to the ground.
00:46:52.000It flew through the House, as you know, 261 to 161.
00:47:41.000On the verge of this national ID card legislation becoming law, forgetting what the founders, I believe it was Ben Franklin who was probably most famous for having said it, that if we think we're going to increase the amount of security we have by trading off some of our freedom, we're going to end up with neither one!
00:48:02.000And that's exactly where we are right now.
00:48:21.000The rules over there do make it a lot easier, and if folks want to go to gunowners.org, we're going to... Right now, the only thing we have up deals with the House, but we're going to be Updating it for the Senate and making it easy for people to contact the Senate as well, right from our website with an email that we'll have written.
00:48:39.000Larry, I want to spend a few minutes with you on some other subjects.
00:48:42.000I mean, we can't, in two hours, we couldn't do justice to the bill that just passed the House for the expansion of the National ID Card into the most draconian applications of the National ID Card, folks.
00:48:56.000I want to talk about the State of the Second Amendment right now.
00:48:59.000We've got Arnold banning .50 cals, Citi's banning ammo, we've got New York's opening the door to sue gun manufacturers.
00:49:06.000I mean, we've got some serious problems, and the average gun owner I talk to is sucking their thumb thinking the Second Coming has happened and that Lord Bush is going to keep them safe!
00:49:15.000That is a matter that concerns us a great deal, that people look at the situation, well, the Republicans have the House, the Senate, the Presidency, what could go wrong?
00:49:26.000Well, even if no other bad legislation were to pass, and we're talking about major bad legislation right now, which could turn into a national gun registry very, very easily, we're still talking about the very likely possibility, politics don't stay the same, that there'll be a very aggressive anti-gunner in charge someday in the future here in Washington.
00:49:55.000And if we leave them the level of gun laws, gun control laws that are on the books right now, they're just going to start from there and move on.
00:50:03.000But I mean, already at the states, from a lot of so-called Republican quarters, Pataki, Swartzi, and others, I mean, they're having a heyday butchering it at the state level.
00:50:13.000We've not had the best of times, for example, in Virginia.
00:50:19.000We have been pushing a bill to Convert the concealed carry law in Virginia to that of, almost identical to the state of Alaska, where essentially you're free to carry a firearm without any permit or license whatsoever.
00:50:36.000A Republican committee chose not to act on it.
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00:55:11.000What do you see happening with Alberto, I want your guns, Gonzalez?
00:55:15.000Well, certainly any lawsuit that's going toward the Supreme Court is not going to have Second Amendment support from the Attorney General's office.
00:55:24.000Frankly, we didn't have it under Ashcroft.
00:55:27.000As you point out, he may have said he thought that the Second Amendment protected that individual right.
00:55:35.000And after the but came the taking away of everything that he had conceded before the but.
00:55:42.000And that's like a group of enemy soldiers coming to your gates and waving the white flag and saying, let us in.
00:55:46.000And then once they get in, boy, you're in trouble.
00:55:49.000He used to be called the Trojan Horse.
00:55:52.000And we've been dealing with that Trojan Horse.
00:55:55.000And perhaps we've been done a favor by Gonzalez because he didn't mince any words.
00:56:00.000He didn't have any of this I'm in favor of the Second Amendment, but, talk, he just said, I really believe in my heart, like you were saying, that gun control is needed.
00:56:11.000And he talks about his concern about protecting police.
00:56:15.000Well, we can see how well that's done for police and citizens.
00:56:19.000Yeah, highest death rate for cops in New York, L.A., and Chicago.
00:56:40.000Apparently, Gonzalez's brother, who's a cop, is one of those tiny minority, but my goodness, at a time when we have seen the repudiation by the voters of big government, of big brother sticking his nose into your affairs, and certainly in the area of the Second Amendment, having been a big reason why Republicans are now the majority party, They end up doing something like this.
00:57:13.000They've got the legislative, the executive, the judicial, most of the governors.
00:57:17.000I mean, we should see the repeal of all this garbage.
00:57:20.000We should, and that's certainly our agenda, and that's the kind of thing that we're going to strive mightily to make them vote on, to find out who's really with us and who's not.
00:57:30.000How do we force Congress to start repealing laws?
00:57:33.000Well, you've got to have a bill in, and happily folks like Ron Paul and some others are going to be putting in legislation to do just that.
00:57:43.000And then the next step is we have to move to force votes on those bills once those bills are there.
00:57:50.000And one of the problems we're going to have is getting through the Republican-controlled Rules Committee.
00:57:55.000And one of the other problems is the national talk shows aren't going to tell conservatives.
00:57:59.000Basically, that's not generally been an issue that most of those national talk shows are interested in.
00:58:06.000Yeah, it's just the hottest thing next to immigration, but they don't want to touch it because they could actually get gun laws repealed.
00:58:13.000Well... Because they're a bunch of closet socialist punks!
00:58:16.000It just doesn't seem to have ever lit their candle and it makes you wonder how much they really understand the political coalition as well as the freedom imperative of people owning guns.
00:58:29.000Larry Pratt, God bless you for being on the front lines daily in the eternal fight for human liberty and the right to self-defense.
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01:00:08.000Yeah, what was interesting is that he was... I don't know where he's going to go with it, but he was actually talking about it might not be such a good thing and what I... Oh, that's good.
01:00:20.000Well, what I was telling him, I said, you know, what most people aren't aware of is that These RFID chips are the exact same thing that's in the VeriChip, and that they're moving to market a version that can be tracked by GPS satellite, and that these things are going to be linked to online databases.
01:00:40.000It's all going to be linked into the new national sales tax, let's admit it!
01:00:44.000I think it's a good thing that someone in the mainstream media actually finally brought this up as a legitimate topic, but what was disheartening Was that the people that called in after me, you know, there was one guy, you know, well I don't care if they track me, they can track me on my Sirius Radio right now, and I'm like, I can't believe that so many people, even when you tell them what this is for, they go, well I don't care, you know, I'm not doing anything wrong.
01:01:09.000Well that's not true, they can't track you on the Sirius Radio.
01:01:12.000Well, the guy was being facetious, I think.
01:01:48.000No, actually they didn't call me a liberal, but they just can't see how being tracked 24-7 and having your information all in a database and everything, they can't see what the problem is with it.
01:02:01.000Can't they understand that it gives waivers to the illegals?
01:02:03.000They're not even going to be under this!
01:02:13.000Uh, listen, uh, something just occurred to me a moment ago.
01:02:16.000I thought, uh, I'd ask you if you happen to know.
01:02:20.000I keep hearing people talk about these RFID chips, and I don't much like the idea, but, uh, I'm wondering How would you go about frustrating that thing?
01:02:36.000If you put your clothes in the microwave, they're now being woven into hundreds of brands of clothes, you don't even know about it, they will pop.
01:02:48.000The clothes probably wouldn't look like much after that.
01:02:51.000Would a magnetic field have any effect on it at all?
01:02:54.000I do a fair amount of... Yeah, I'm sure.
01:02:56.000I'm not an engineer, but yeah, a strong enough magnet would probably screw up the system.
01:03:00.000Well, I do a fair amount of recording.
01:03:01.000The idea is not to frustrate it at the ground level.
01:03:03.000The idea is to defeat them skipping us over into this.
01:03:07.000Certainly, but once you've got something that you know has that in there, I'm just wondering.
01:03:12.000I have a pretty stout demagnifier, you know, a tape eraser.
01:03:18.000Yeah, the field on that thing, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't stout enough to lift the weight of a bowling ball if you had something that was, you know, magnetic metal, iron, or steel.
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01:07:11.000All right, we're 8 minutes, 20 seconds into this second hour on this Friday edition.
01:07:17.000I'm honored to be your host, humbled, glad to be here.
01:07:20.000Coming up, new 9-11 cover-ups are becoming public.
01:07:24.000We'll also get into the new Super National ID card the conservatives were lied to by the White House, telling them that it was to stop illegal aliens, actually makes it easier for illegal aliens as usual.
01:07:36.000And just a host, a whole host of other important issues that we're going to discuss.
01:07:43.000And I know we have the phone lines loaded up as well.
01:08:15.000We have Philadelphia Daily News articles.
01:08:18.000We have mainstream news reporting on this like it's a good idea, admitting this has happened.
01:08:25.000We've got a small group of Christians in a designated protest area at the, quote, Outfest in Philadelphia
01:08:35.000Praying on the street corner, and the police said that could cause the outfest people to become angry and hurt their feelings, so we're going to arrest you under the Justice Department's advice, and we're going to put you in jail, and then we're going to charge you with basically being terrorists, and you're going to face 47 years in prison.
01:08:56.000And so preemptively, the group went and appealed this to a federal judge.
01:08:59.000The judge said, no, you're going down.
01:09:02.000And they've got video they shot themselves.
01:09:04.000The police are all there as witnesses.
01:09:06.000Even some apologized at the jail and said, we don't know why you were arrested.
01:10:26.000Well, thank you so much, Alex, for covering this story, how important it is.
01:10:30.000For those that just joined us and have never heard what happened, encapsulate it, and you've got the floor in about five minutes, what you've been through, what's happened to you at city council meetings, what's happened to you in Philadelphia, what your group is now facing in five minutes, encapsulate it for us.
01:10:45.000Well, every year in Philadelphia they have what's called an Outfest.
01:10:48.000It's a national coming out day where thousands of homosexuals are in the streets of Philadelphia, an eight block area, which is open to the public.
01:10:55.000There's businesses there, there's homes there.
01:10:57.000So they can't shut down the whole area, but We were there last year without incident.
01:11:02.000Well, this year things changed and our group of 11 people went into the outfest.
01:11:10.000In October of 2004 we went into the outfest as we did last year but things changed in regards to how the police handled us.
01:11:19.000They allowed a militant mob of homosexuals to blow ear-piercing whistles, to block us with pink placards, and then they arrested us Ages 17 to 72, placed us in paddy wagons, took us to jail for 21 hours, and we were charged with 3 felonies and 5 misdemeanors, with the potential of being in prison for up to 47 years.
01:13:14.000I've watched it before, but it's been weeks, or about a month since I've watched it.
01:13:18.000How long is... What particular clip could we go to your website right now and download and record and maybe play on air?
01:13:27.000You can do that with any part of that would be fine.
01:13:31.000It was recorded by an independent film company called Enough Said Productions.
01:13:36.000And they're out of San Francisco, California.
01:13:38.000They're doing a documentary on this event.
01:13:40.000I was wired the whole time, so that seven-minute clip, any part of that that would be good to hear is fine to air.
01:13:47.000I'll tell you what, I'm telling my great crew, go to repentamerica.com, and folks, please don't rush there yourself and watch it, or it might slow the server down, and then when we record it, it'll have, you know, it'll break up and stuff.
01:14:27.000We're on two-hour notice for a trial in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania, the town I live in outside of Philadelphia.
01:14:34.000And the council meeting was taking place on July 21st, where certain council members It's called the Bible Hate Speech.
01:14:43.000What happened is, is every year, I'm not every year, but they appointed a new homosexual council member in which he was saying in the Philadelphia Gay News that their intent is to attract more homosexuals to Lansdowne.
01:14:56.000And I had stated, well, I object to that because of what the scripture says and I began to read the scripture and before I could even do that, It was labeled hate speech by the council president.
01:15:05.000And that was in your three-minute citizens communication?
01:15:08.000Oh yes, it was during the public comment period.
01:15:11.000And someone spoke before me for at that great length, and I was within... Well, this was in the mainstream news that he got up for his little thing, read out of the Bible, and was arrested.
01:15:19.000Now, a Republican governor two years ago passed hate crimes laws in your state.
01:15:24.000That's why they're doing this, and it's sad.
01:15:25.000They warned preachers, read from the Old Testament, you could be arrested, and now there's no...
01:15:31.000No coincidence that this is now happening in Pennsylvania.
01:15:51.000And the reason we're going to do this, folks, is I defend the liberals' free speech, I defend anybody's free speech, even Ward Churchill's horrible free speech.
01:15:59.000I have my free speech to counter him, but I've been, say, at a million mom, which I really dub the 100 bureaucrat march, in Austin, we have video of this, it's on the website, They're hitting me on the head with signs, they're pushing me, they're walking up to my $5,000 camera, spraying water directly on the lens, dousing it in water.
01:16:17.000And the cops run over and threaten to arrest us, saying, well, you being here makes them angry, and so it's going to be your fault if they assault you some more.
01:16:27.000Now, where's the First Amendment, people?
01:16:31.000Even if you hate what Mr. Marcavage is saying, shouldn't you love his First Amendment?
01:16:38.000Well, I've been in environments where I've been with those who are completely opposed to what I have to say and what the Bible says and find myself even arrested with them.
01:16:52.000The Republican National Convention was an example of that, where I spent 32 hours in jail with anarchists and Listen, I've interviewed American spectator riders who were standing peaceably on the street corner and arrested, and then falsely charged, and later the cops admitted it.
01:17:17.000I've talked to AP reporters, Pacifica reporters.
01:17:20.000I was there three times a day being threatened with arrest, and I just say, do it!
01:17:32.000So, tell us what else happened at the City Council meeting.
01:17:35.000Well, I was at the City Council meeting, and I had the scripture ready.
01:17:38.000Basically, I was about to read from Romans chapter 1, verse 18, through some of the rest of this chapter.
01:17:48.000For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness, because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shewed it unto them.
01:18:00.000For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even as eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.
01:18:10.000Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful, but became vain in their imagination, And their foolish heart was darkened.
01:18:19.000Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like the corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
01:18:29.000Wherefore, God also gave them up to uncleanliness through the lust of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
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01:22:04.000Yet on February 29th, 1892, in a 9-0 decision of the U.S.
01:22:09.000Supreme Court, America was declared a Christian nation.
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01:23:39.000Please finish reading the thought crime that you were reading earlier, Michael.
01:23:43.000Yes, I'll continue reading the hate speech, as they call it.
01:23:47.000Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanliness through the lust of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
01:24:00.000For this cause, God gave them up unto vile affections, for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature.
01:24:07.000And likewise, also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one towards another, men with men, working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves the recompense of their error which was me.
01:24:20.000And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient.
01:24:44.000As soon as I began to read from the scriptures, they made motions to adjourn the meeting.
01:24:47.000Now again, folks, some idiots out there think separation of church and state.
01:24:52.000You have your free speech to read the Vedas, the Buddhist stuff, to read the Bible, or to read the back of a Cracker Jack box.
01:25:01.000You know, you can do whatever you want, but again, he was arrested for this, and then the city councilman, I remember, was in the paper going, this is hateful, and I'm not putting up with it.
01:25:21.000At Outfest, you're there praying, reading out of the Bible.
01:25:26.000This is Imagine Communist China, folks.
01:25:28.000And now you're facing, with others, 47 years in prison, despite the fact that you have a professional film crew there videotaping everything that happened.
01:25:42.000The judge in the hearing that we had on a motion to remove the bail restriction, because the preliminary court judge who held us over for trial, four of us over for trial, said that we cannot be in a hundred feet of any homosexual event.
01:25:58.000Well, we actually appealed that to the Common Pleas Court where Pamela Denby, Judge Pamela Denby, She said that this is unconstitutional restraint on a person's right to speak.
01:26:09.000Remove that bail condition, so it does enable us now to be in 100 feet of any homosexual event.
01:26:16.000But she said if you don't like it, you can go to another country.
01:26:18.000So this judge understands the value of the First Amendment.
01:26:22.000But now, you went to the federal courts, though, to try to throw all this out.
01:26:26.000Well, yeah, we asked a federal judge that this is in bad faith and in retaliation for us exercising our First Amendment rights, and this judge decided, well, I'm not going to intervene and I'm going to allow this to continue, which doesn't in fact establish a bad precedent as well.
01:26:42.000This is a clear case of us exercising First Amendment and being victimized because of that.
01:26:47.000Now, I've read what the prosecutors, the federal prosecutors that are advising them how to do this to you, I've read what they've said.
01:26:54.000And to paraphrase it, you can read the actual quotes if you'd like, they say, well, by them being there, they could have made the other group angry, they could have done something violent, And basically they're claiming you were yelling fire in the theater by criticizing someone.
01:27:07.000So now criticizing anybody in any way is illegal.
01:27:12.000And that's what's so sad about this, is that simply by saying, repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand, some of these scripture verses, quoting them in public at an event where people are celebrating, can be considered to be a hate crime.
01:27:26.000And that's what's so dangerous about hate crime legislation.
01:27:28.000And you even did what the police said, which is a total violation of the First Amendment.
01:27:32.000You let them harry you like a pack of beagles chasing some foxes, and they got you all cornered up in an area, which I'm sure was from the start, they planned to get you there so the paddy wagons, I'm sure it was off to the edge so they could get the wagons into you.
01:27:47.000We stopped in the middle of the street in Philadelphia.
01:27:50.000I've been through this many times, so I know what they do.
01:27:52.000So they herd you to a spot, and then lying all the way, planning to arrest you for no reason, and once they got you there, they loaded you up.
01:28:16.000They were advising them and telling them what they should do.
01:28:19.000In fact, someone in the Department of Justice, we found out that there was a report that they were advising, the Department of Justice was advising the Philadelphia Police to arrest us.
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01:32:20.000Again, this was in the newspaper and the Associated Press as well.
01:32:23.000And then we're going to play the 7-minute clip, which is very clear audio, and we'll be, you know, during parts that are just chanting in the background, we'll be cutting in with comments, as it continues to roll, at the Outfest in Philadelphia.
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01:35:25.000We're not going to go to that clip quite yet, so you can go ahead and pop that down.
01:35:30.000We'll go to that here in just a few minutes because I do want to get to your calls, but Michael Markavich, the director of RepentAmerica.com, who is constantly being arrested for peaceably praying on street corners or trying to go and speak at city council meetings.
01:35:46.000To make it clear, you and three others are now facing 47 years in prison for what we're about to hear.
01:35:55.000And you've shown the video to the judge.
01:35:57.000What does the judge say when you show him the video?
01:35:59.000Well, at the preliminary hearing, the judge, after viewing the video, decided to hold four of us over for trial, and in the Common Pleas Court, when the judge removed the bail restriction, which was Judge Pamela Demby, she said that she saw no criminal behavior in the video.
01:36:18.000No criminal behavior, but you're still going to trial?
01:36:21.000We're still being prosecuted maliciously by Lynn Abraham's office in Philadelphia, who, by the way, is up for re-election.
01:36:28.000She is continuing with this prosecution even after the judge looked at this video and said she saw no criminal behavior.
01:36:37.000Now again, the major Philadelphia and Pennsylvania newspapers reported and admitted that at the City Council last year before this Outfest thing happened, you went up, said I'm going to read from the Bible, and they arrested you.
01:36:48.000Where does this particular audio clip come from?
01:36:51.000Because it's night and day from the other one.
01:37:33.000I just wanted to express a couple of things this evening.
01:37:36.000First thing, at the direction that the council is leading our community.
01:37:40.000I recently read a statement by Mr. Lee, the newly appointed council member in the Philadelphia Gay League, and he has confessed that the gay community in the borough council hosted his appointment to see some more gay and lesbian people moving to town.
01:37:58.000In this period, if that is the consensus of the council, is that the desire the council wants to proceed in is leading more gay and lesbian people to the pen.
01:38:06.000My desire is to have anybody that wants to come to Lansdowne River to be able to come to Lansdowne River.
01:38:12.000So let me, uh, this pertains to the issue here at hand, uh, concerning, we want to search your thoughts, uh, concerning homosexuality and sexism.
01:38:56.000You have to stay consistent with the other people.
01:38:57.000I understand, but I am not going to allow you to come before this council and use it as a forum to disagree, and it is simply not going to happen.
01:39:05.000Mr. Councilman, the Bible does not make the case.
01:39:33.000And they arrest him, and now you're facing trial for that.
01:39:36.000What you just heard, calmly, nicely, they're talking, being arrested.
01:39:41.000Is this the America we were all brought up in, Michael?
01:39:44.000Well, it's certainly not, and things are definitely on the move toward Criminalizing Christianity along with free speech as we see all of us being victimized under this government control of our lives.
01:39:58.000Now, the next clip is seven minutes long from the outfest.
01:40:05.000Now this is video, this is on their website, but here's the audio of it.
01:40:10.000Just give us in 30 seconds a synopsis of what happens in the seven minutes so people get a visual idea.
01:40:16.000Yes, what they're going to hear is when we arrive, I'm speaking to Enough Said Productions.
01:40:22.000They're doing a film on this event and our work in Philadelphia concerning homosexuality.
01:40:29.000And you will hear the Pink Angels, perhaps, You might hear some blocking the sidewalk.
01:40:35.000You'll be giving commentary to the film telling them that this is illegal to block the sidewalk and asking the police where we can go along with the Pink Angels blowing their ear piercing whistles.
01:40:48.000And this is what the Klan did to blacks in the South.
01:41:38.000There was an elderly woman trying to cross the street.
01:41:47.000This is a violation of Pennsylvania state law.
01:41:49.000In fact, I was charged with this before.
01:41:52.000Obstructing a public walkway is a violation of state law.
01:41:56.000But also, this is also considered harassment.
01:41:59.000In the newspaper article in the Philadelphia Gay News, they clearly made it Their point is saying that they're going to have a moving circle around us.
01:42:07.000In fact, this is not a moving circle around us at all.
01:44:04.000Well, first of all, they were impeding our way when we came in, which is obstruction of a highway and public passageways under the Pennsylvania state law.
01:44:14.000You did correct it, and we appreciate that.
01:44:17.000Well, we do too, but at the same time, this here is obstruction, when they have the signs and trying to block us, and their intent, as they said in the Philadelphia Gay News, is to have us blocked, our message blocked.
01:44:29.000This point is surrounded by people hissing and sticking signs in front of them and blowing whistles at them.
01:45:05.000We are at the next location where the police said that we should stop, and waiting there where there's a side street which would allow those paddy wagons to come in.
01:45:13.000And now you go to a Bush demonstration, pro-Bush.
01:45:22.000One person shows up with a sign saying they don't like Bush.
01:45:25.000They're arrested and charged with felonies.
01:48:53.000And, uh, you know, you went two places, they asked, and that wasn't good enough, and so they took you right to where the paddy wagon was, and loaded you up, and, uh, now they're, uh... Tell folks real quick, we're about to go to break, all the different charges!
01:49:05.000People just heard it, you can watch what they did.
01:49:07.000Absolutely nothing, and they're charging with all this stuff.
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01:54:17.000And we've got Pastor Ted Pike, an expert on hate crimes legislation, coming up in the next hour with us to talk to Michael and others on air about this.
01:54:25.000But right now, let's go to Charles in Louisiana.
01:54:43.000On October the 5th in 2004, you talked to a man from the previous employee of the Texas Department of Transportation who was fired for filming a computer screen with a registration form?
01:55:20.000First off, would it surprise you at all If the government, this occupational tyrannical government, put in a department of thought crimes They already have, sir.
01:55:59.000And, uh, he was arrested... Now this is a BBC reporter, but yeah, go ahead.
01:56:02.000Yeah, just recently this pastor was arrested for similar, uh, statements about... He said the hate crimes unit in one night did raids of over a hundred homes, dragging families out to prison for what they'd said.
01:56:16.000Yeah, it's so sad what we're seeing, and we need to raise our voice.
01:56:20.000If we don't, we're going to find ourselves saying something behind bars.
01:56:22.000Well, this is what they do to the Falun Gong and Christians and Buddhists in China.
01:56:30.000It looks like it's been 1984 for 21 years now, and on an unrelated note...
01:56:35.000How would you go about opting out of Social Security before it's taken away forever?
01:56:39.000That's a whole other subject, sir, and I have to get into that in another show.
01:56:43.000I mean, it's a complex issue, but thanks for the call.
01:56:45.000Let's bring Ted Pike in here for the last 60 seconds of this hour.
01:56:48.000Ted, hearing all of this, being an expert on it, Pastor, give us your comments.
01:56:52.000Yes, it's very, very important that our listeners today be aware that the big federal hate bill, which is called the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2005, That's H.R.
01:57:05.000259 is now going through the House Judiciary Committee.
01:57:10.000We must call our members of Congress immediately to protest this Big Brother legislation.
01:57:15.000And that toll-free number is 877-762-8762.
01:57:55.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:00.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000Whether you're an anti-war protester, an environmental protester, a pro-life demonstrator, somebody out at Outfest reading out of the Bible, You're going to face decades in prison for reading Bible passages or protesting Lord Bush.
01:58:23.000It's all part of the new freedom and legislations about to pass the federal government to expand this.
01:58:29.000We'll be taking your calls in this hour on this subject and other important topics at 1-800-255-99231, 1-800-255-99231, and Charles and others will be getting to your calls.
01:58:40.000We're joined by Pastor Ted Pike, an expert on this thought crime legislation, and of course, Michael Markavich, the Executive Director of RepentAmerica.com, who has been arrested in New York City with the peace activists who are standing on the street corner.
01:58:57.000He has been arrested for reading, trying to read from the Bible at a city council meeting in his three minutes of citizen's communication.
01:59:04.000He's been arrested at Outfest for standing there reading from the Bible.
01:59:14.000Going back to Michael Markavich, Michael, you're facing 47 years in prison, and even people in the trial, or the pretrial, are admitting you committed no crimes, but they're still charging you with, what, three felonies and a bunch of misdemeanors.
01:59:27.000I guess you're just going to go ahead and go to trial.
01:59:29.000You're going to have a jury, and who knows?
01:59:31.000The jury might have been watching TV where they tell you all this is good.
01:59:34.000You might be spending some time in prison.
01:59:36.000Well, we never know with the direction that we find our country in right now.
01:59:39.000But I'm also facing 15 months in jail and a $2,800 fine for the Lansdowne incident at the council meeting where I spoke for under two minutes.
01:59:48.000They had a ten minute time limit, and I only spoke for under two minutes.
01:59:53.000And you played the city council member, the head of the committee, saying, I'm not going to let you read that out of the Bible, and you're arrested.
02:00:04.000And we played it right here for you, it's been in the news folks, just openly saying, he came and he tried to read from the Bible, and it's a good thing, he's going to be going to jail.
02:00:13.000This is the new America, is it not, Pastor Ted Pike?
02:00:16.000Yes, and not only the New America, but these hate laws are spreading throughout the Western world, in most European countries, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
02:00:26.000Hate laws are the latest legislative trend.
02:00:30.000And what makes these laws so pernicious and so threatening to Christians is because they have a basic definition that hate equals bias against federally protected groups, especially against homosexuals.
02:00:45.000And of course, the Bible is full of bias against homosexuality, and that means that Christians who adhere to the Holy Scriptures are almost by definition haters.
02:00:56.000And now, through the faith-based initiative that Bush has that Hillary supports, they're going to be federally funding all the churches and controlling them, so this is amazing.
02:01:04.000But I want to make this clear, because the right loves to take the left's rights, the left loves to take the right's rights, they're taking everybody's rights right now.
02:01:14.000This isn't just happening to Christians.
02:01:15.000This isn't just happening to family values demonstrators.
02:01:20.000Well, you know, a few months ago I called people to look at what had happened in Canada.
02:01:24.000We didn't have too many presidents in the United States.
02:01:27.000In Canada, it's illegal under the Hate Crimes Law of Canada Section 319 to even criticize homosexuality in any way on the airwaves.
02:01:40.000But here, we have lost our free speech in Philadelphia for the last...
02:01:44.000for a month and what this means is that these state hate laws particularly can come down on Christians, pro-lifers, activists anytime they want to.
02:01:56.000But last year bad case law was created in federal court in North Carolina with a guy with an anti-Bush sign.
02:02:01.000So my point is it's happening across the board.
02:02:05.000It is, and that's why it's so imperative right now that we call Congress because the huge federal hate bill is rapidly moving through the House Judiciary Committee was introduced on January 6th.
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02:06:06.000Eight minutes, 24 seconds into the third hour of this Friday edition.
02:06:09.000Your calls are coming up at 1-800-259-9231.
02:06:12.000Brenda, Johanna, and others, you'll be up first.
02:06:17.000Before we go back to our guest, Michael Markavich, who's facing 47 years in jail, or standing on the street corner reading Bible scriptures, and 15 months in jail and a huge $2,000 plus fine for trying to read out of the Bible during his citizens' communications, which I guess in his town they gave him 10 minutes.
02:07:34.000And frankly, they abuse Christians more than anybody else.
02:07:36.000But now the left, who loved this the last 15 years, it's happening to them.
02:07:41.000And so the Globalist are masters of picking one group and doing it to them and publicizing it and then knowing that other groups support it.
02:07:48.000Folks, we all hang together or we all hang separate.
02:08:19.000We're riding shotgun with a thought criminal, hate criminal, Michael Markavich, who's facing 47 years, the director of RepentAmerica.com.
02:08:30.000I don't think people realize how widespread this is getting, and they're teaching the cops this.
02:08:34.000I mean, four or five years ago, I'd have them walk up to me at a Second Amendment counter-protest against the 100 bureaucrats, known as the Million Moms.
02:08:42.000They'd be hitting us, spraying water on our cameras, cussing at us, and the cops would say, you being here on a city street is causing them to become angry, so we're going to have to arrest you.
02:08:54.000And so they've been telling them this for a long time.
02:08:57.000I guess next time I'll get 47 years in prison.
02:08:59.000Well, I'm not going to let that chill me.
02:09:01.000And we sued the state police here, the Capitol Police and the Austin Police.
02:09:07.000So the courts here have said, yes, you can arrest somebody for being on the street corner with a sign when another demonstration is going on.
02:09:15.000But in other areas they're doing this, we're getting bad rulings from federal courts saying, yes they can.
02:09:21.000I don't think people realize that the host of One Man and His Dog, one of the most popular rural affairs shows in England on BBC, gave a speech two years ago at a rural affairs meeting.
02:09:32.000And all he said was, rural communities deserve the same rights as Muslims and homosexuals.
02:10:00.000And because he said that, the head of Scotland Yard Diversity Unit and Hate Crimes Unit, she was quoted as saying, the word homosexual is hateful and causes pain.
02:10:12.000So we came and we arrested him, and then he promised never to say it again, so we dropped the charges.
02:10:18.000But then there was another BBC article last year, and it said 100 hate crimes individuals raided.
02:10:36.000In London alone, And it was in there, whole families being grabbed, paddy wagons, men in black masks with machine guns, and they were pastors and preachers and talk show hosts, and people are being arrested or fined, writers who criticize the EU and Germany and France.
02:10:56.000They passed laws, what is it, 10 years in prison?
02:11:00.000And the equivalent of a $700,000 fine in France if you criticize homosexuality, that passed late last year.
02:11:06.000Pastor Ted Pike, this is ultra-massive what's happening.
02:11:11.000Well, if you really want to know the truth about it, this all began around 1988 when the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith held a huge so-called model anti-hate competition to all law students in the United States.
02:11:27.000A winner was selected and the ADL at its Hofstra conference in 1988 contrived a model anti-hate law for America.
02:11:36.000During the 1990s, the ADL persuaded no less than 48 of the states to adopt its so-called anti-intimidation law.
02:11:44.000And I would add, it's the ADL that helped fund the move against Supreme Court Justice of Alabama Roy Moore, and it was Bush's man who they promoted to a federal judgeship who went after Moore.
02:12:01.000And the ADL was given power Under the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990, which is also their baby, to have a federal mandate that they teach police departments in the United States, FBI, Justice Department officials, their twisted definition of what hate is.
02:12:19.000And hate is myself saying gun control is wrong and I'm allowed to be struck in front of police And that I'm threatened with arrest as I'm being hit in the head with science.
02:12:30.000That's right, and the ADL teaches sensitivity training seminars for all police officers in the United States, creating their own anti-victim status.
02:12:38.000Now, this is similar to the Nazis against the Jews, how for seven or eight years, folks, they weren't arresting them.
02:12:43.000They were just intimidating their businesses, not letting them protest, not letting them go vote.
02:12:48.000And then it got worse and worse, then arresting them, quote, for what they'd been doing.
02:13:09.000Clearly, this directive to attack these Christians came straight down from the ADL.
02:13:13.000It wasn't a And so that's what the Christians get for predominantly supporting the ADL and their operations.
02:13:20.000Well that's right, and you see these Christians on the street corner were viewed by the police who are all revved up by the ADL as haters because they are clearly biased against homosexuals.
02:13:31.000And what happens there, according to these hate crimes laws of the ADL, is if you have bias and then you have some kind of violation of law, you are a fake criminal.
02:13:41.000And now, I want to go to calls, but now Michael Chertoff has gotten all these ADL awards, he's actually, it's basically unknown that he's a guy who's been going after Christians for a long time.
02:14:18.000Well, yes, there were some anti-life people in Redding, I believe it was Redding, California, who, a couple months after our outbest arrest, who were charged.
02:14:28.000Because they vandalized about 3,000 crosses, they were pro-abortion, and they were charged with a hate crime.
02:14:35.000So just that goes in sync with what you were talking about earlier and how it does victimize not only Christians, but anyone who... I mean, obviously these people, if they did commit vandalism... Yeah, they do it to Christians first to set the precedent, then they do it to everybody.
02:14:48.000They want to control everybody's speech.
02:14:51.000Brenda, where are you calling us from?
02:14:56.000Yes, thank you, Alex, for having these courageous men on your show.
02:15:01.000I caught the show a little bit late, but I also wanted to say, to second the emotion, that the ACL, the Mossad, the B'nai B'rith, they're usually, when you go behind the scenes, you see that these are the people that are behind our most frightening anti-Christian laws and regulations.
02:15:18.000And I appreciate that it's being said here today.
02:15:56.000And I wanted to say, if people seriously first repent their sins, just like Michael's web is Repent America, well that is the first thing that we have to do in order for the Creator to start listening to our prayers.
02:16:09.000People are praying, but they're not serious enough about praying what we're supposed to be praying about, and establishing our close relationship with the Creator, so He'll even hear our prayers and respond.
02:16:18.000And that's why people don't take us seriously, because we don't have the relationship we claim to have.
02:16:24.000Well, also, most Christians are neutralized, sucking their thumbs, thinking George Bush is Jesus.
02:16:29.000Literally, some of them think this, not knowing that, I mean, actually, he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
02:16:37.000Well, that's partially why we put out the website BushRevealed.com earlier on when we wanted to educate the Christian people, to exhort them to really look at the fruit of George Bush and how dangerous this is, especially with some of these new developments with Homeland Security and so on.
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02:20:47.000Patrick Henry said, give me liberty or give me death.
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02:22:11.000They were arrested, charged with felonies.
02:22:14.000And the prosecutors and people, you know, they have to admit they did nothing wrong, but still you're going to go to jail for 47 years.
02:22:19.000It's unbelievable, and before Pastor Ted Pikes leaves us, we'll give you the toll-free number to call Congress and tell them don't pass federal hate crimes, thought crime legislation.
02:24:43.000That's the Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2005 H.R. 259.
02:24:49.000I should also mention that if our listeners can go to the government website, they will find 22 members, that's Republican members of the Committee on the Judiciary.
02:25:27.000It's about the State of the Union and the comments that Jay Sekulow made on Mike Cheritoff.
02:25:33.000I don't know if you want to hear that in Gonzales.
02:25:35.000Well, just what a wonderful, lordly man they all are.
02:25:37.000Well, he said, although, he said, Mike Cheritoff is a friend of mine.
02:25:42.000With Deputy AG of the United States will make an excellent Homeland Security Chief and he's going to... And what does he say about Alberto, I love abortion, Gonzalez?
02:26:54.000And certainly we're seeing more of this, where they're just disregarding what these men have done.
02:27:00.000And certainly we know that Alberto Gonzales, in that situation where, you know, I think it was a 12-year-old, as you said, that they could have abortions without informing their parents.
02:27:11.000In Texas, and it's just disheartening.
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02:32:28.000And we'll take a few final calls from William and Cliff and a few others for our guests, but first I wanted to let Michael Markavich make any final comments before we go to these final calls, and then let Pastor Ted Pike make any other observations.
02:32:41.000I would just like to say that we appreciate the prayers of so many across the nation and the world.
02:32:46.000I've been receiving calls as far as Taiwan and England of people who are concerned about what's happening to us in Philadelphia, especially in the birthplace of American freedom.
02:32:55.000And as we see our civil liberties being eroded by these tyrannical people, we must raise our voice.
02:33:01.000And our hope is that people would continue to raise their voice against erosion of our civil liberties in our nation.
02:33:08.000And folks can go to repentamerica.com and watch the seven minute clip where they arrest you for absolutely no reason.
02:33:13.000Watch the clip where you calmly talk to the city council and say, I'd like to read a passage from the Bible during my time.
02:36:16.000uh... in order to produce this uh... by some of that funding in that most of the people that you look that are running this are either convicted drug dealers or armed smugglers i mean it's the mafia sir let me get a comment from our guest just about criminals taking over society that's been the norm in history people are naive about that now it's happening again uh... mark uh... i mean a michael or a pastor any comments uh... well speaking of criminals you know uh...
02:36:46.000Lynn Abraham is indicting these Christians in Philadelphia under the hate crimes laws of the state of Pennsylvania which combine bias motivation and some kind of violation of the law.
02:36:59.000The truth is, nobody is more biased than Lynn Abraham against these Christians.
02:37:05.000And she has wrongfully arrested and imprisoned them, combining both bias motivation and a violation of the law.
02:37:12.000Well, it's abuse of power, it's official oppression, it is racketeering, how they're working together to take somebody's rights.
02:37:20.000Actually, what I'm saying is she should be indicted for a hate crime under the anti-intimidation law of the state of Pennsylvania.
02:37:29.000Yeah, but we all know that's not going to happen.
02:38:15.000I think that once we all get together on the First Amendment, that's when we're going to have success.
02:38:21.000Well, my comment, Alex, is I just happened to be up last night watching PBS with Think Tank with Ben Wattenberg, and they were doing a documentary on President Andrew Jackson with Harry Watson from University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and Robert Remney from Iowa.
02:38:36.000And they were talking about how much freedom that the American people had back then as opposed to now.
02:38:43.000And we had so much freedom back when Andrew Jackson was president, excuse me, that it was mostly an open White House.
02:38:50.000You could just walk in off the street and interrupt a meeting just to speak to the president.
02:38:54.000And they were talking about how Andrew Jackson was the first and only president to pay off our national debt.
02:38:59.000And then they discussed a speech that he made where he plainly stated that if the people ever lost their democratic right and let the government control their democracy and their sovereignty we would be further And foremostly, enslaved by them and the international bankers, which we all know, Jack.
02:39:15.000No, on his deathbed, they said, what do you look forward to most in your life?
02:39:25.000I mean, like three times, they'd jump up with pistols, fire, and both pistols would misfire over and over again, where they'd shoot right at him and the bullets would just miss him every time.
02:39:38.000And the comment that really struck my cord, I mean, if you listen to all this, and then just out of the blue, Ben Wattenberg says, well, I wonder what Mr. Jackson would think if he knew that the international bankers And the Order of Skull and Bones was not only controlling the United States, but the entire world right now.
02:39:55.000And you're saying on PBS, I didn't see this but I believe you, everywhere, I'm having former top CIA analysts, you know, top analysts of the CIA on saying the government's going to carry out more terror attacks.
02:40:06.000I have, you know, admirals on talking about total new world order police state.
02:40:11.000I have the father of Reaganomics on, you know, Him with the neocons saying it's a world conspiracy for New World Order.
02:40:26.000That's what they were saying about Andrew Jackson.
02:40:28.000They said his idea with democracy was to leave the sovereignty with the people for if The people lost their sovereignty and gave control to the government, then we became automatic slaves.
02:42:42.000I mean, it's time to stand up for the First Amendment, regardless of which group it is that's being persecuted.
02:42:48.000Again, they passed the supranational ID card yesterday out of the House.
02:42:52.000That's going to the Senate, DNA testing when you get a driver's license, waiving things for illegal aliens, Pan-American Union ID cards, targeting Christians and gun groups.
02:43:07.000You've got Ron Paul, Larry Pratt, on analyzing the bill in the last three days of Ron Paul's office.
02:43:12.000So, it's just mind-blowing that all of this is happening, that all of this is going on.
02:43:22.000Meanwhile, our society's gotten so decadent, the police are still searching for a woman who threw a newborn out of the car, that's alleged, a man and a woman.
02:43:32.000Tied a newborn baby in a plastic bag and tossed him out of a car before driving off Thursday afternoon to Broward Sheriff's Office.
02:43:40.000Why not just take the baby into the hospital or give it up for adoption?
02:43:46.000The baby survived apparently unharmed after landing on grass.
02:43:49.000Yeah, the social services will have that baby on 10 different drugs within 12 months.
02:43:54.000Sheriff spokesman Vetta Coleman writes of the infant boy, he was only about an hour old when he was tossed out of the white sedan, was a miracle child who suffered no broken bones, scratches or bruises.
02:44:06.000Well, how do they know it was tossed out of the car?
02:44:08.000He's being listed in critical condition as a precaution, but we're hoping he'll be upgraded soon, she said.
02:44:14.000And the reason I guess they can say that is that somebody supposedly saw at 2.15 p.m.
02:44:18.000slow down near the corner of Southwest 73rd Avenue and Southwest 8th Court in North Lauderdale.
02:44:25.000Coleman Wright said either the woman in the passenger seat or the male driver tossed the baby out of the passenger side window.
02:44:48.000We read a couple articles yesterday where they're stun gunning 14 year olds and they have heart attacks.
02:44:53.000Well, here's another one out of CBS News.
02:44:56.000Stun gun deaths, jolts, Chicago cops, a man died in Chicago, police use a taser gun to subdue him Thursday.
02:45:04.000His days after a teenager was critically injured, a similar incident to the prompt of the lawsuit, got critically injured, had a heart attack.
02:45:10.000Now the heart is jiggling all over the place in weird fibrillations.
02:45:18.000And at the same time, another child was stun gunned and is now retarded.
02:45:23.000Wasn't retarded before, now since their drooling.
02:45:26.000And Taser International's answer is to boost the power.
02:45:30.000Police said they used the stun gun when they were unable to restrain a 54-year-old man who was fighting with officers in a high-rise building on the city's north side Thursday afternoon.
02:45:38.000The man went into cardiac arrest and later died, according to Chicago Fire Department.
02:45:43.000What happened to beating somebody in the, you know, legs or back with your billy club?
02:45:57.000in just the last few years and their answer is boost the power.
02:46:00.000Parents protest student computer ID tags associated press.
02:46:08.000The only grade school in its rural town is requiring students to wear radio frequency identification badges that contract their every move.
02:46:15.000Some parents are outraged, fearing it will take away the children's privacy.
02:46:18.000The badges introduced at Britain Elementary School, January 18th, rely on the same radio frequency scanner technology that companies use to track livestock and product inventory.
02:46:28.000Similar devices have recently been used to monitor youngsters in some parts of Japan.
02:46:35.000But a few American schools, over a hundred, A few American school districts have embraced such a monitoring system, and civil liberties groups hope to keep it that way.
02:46:47.000If the school doesn't stand up, then other schools might adopt it.
02:46:51.000And Nicole Ozer, representative of the American Civil Liberties Union, said, warned school board members at a meeting Tuesday night, you might be a small community, but you are one of the first communities to use this technology.
02:47:24.000I've got a film coming up that details this.
02:47:26.000And Jeffrey Eaton, a 17-year-old, won the project.
02:47:30.000A Rhode Island high school student won an art award and an A from his teacher for building an abstract scene that juxtaposes Nazi swastikas and quotes of Adolf Hitler with American flags, desert-colored toy soldiers, and an image of President Bush.
02:47:46.000Jeffrey Eaton, 17, insisted he was trying to make comparisons between U.S.-led war in Iraq and the German Blitzkrieg.
02:47:51.000Well, a bunch of the operations had German Blitzkrieg names, and Rumsfeld called it a Blitzkrieg.
02:47:57.000I mean, you know, we're just... But his piece titled, Bush, Hitler, and How History Repeats Itself, immediately prompted a complaint.
02:48:06.000After it was displayed at a store, where other winners of the Rhode Island Scholastic Art Awards, Paul Lewis, 34, of North Providence, Found the artwork offensive and notified me after asking that it be removed.
02:48:19.000They arrested one guy in New York for artwork he had at an art display of Bush's face made up of the images of monkeys.
02:48:27.000I mean, again, it's thought crime, folks.
02:48:38.000And as our guest mentioned, the ADL and others are running around promoting these Nazi policies.
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02:52:02.000Here's the audio of Bush talking about how great America is and telling a woman who has, you know, these children that she works three jobs how great it is.
02:52:48.000Albany, New York State's highest court heard arguments Wednesday to a two-year struggle over access to a trove of city transcripts and tape recordings from September 11, 2001.
02:52:57.000At issue, the Court of Appeals has access to the 9-11 firefighter tapes.
02:53:02.000Firefighter dispatches and transcripts of interviews with hundreds of firefighters who responded on the day of the attack.
02:53:07.000Now, first they claimed that all the tapes malfunctioned, then they claimed there were no interviews, now they declared national security, and now it's going to court.
02:53:15.000Remember, they ordered the FAA to shred the tapes, that's mainstream news.
02:53:19.000They ordered the firefighters to say they hadn't found the black boxes, three of the four black boxes.
02:54:02.000sorry that was two thousand three it's six hundred seventy one billion point seven six seven one point seven billion excuse me it's increased by hundreds of billions i was reading two thousand three numbers uh...
02:54:14.000britain accused over c_i_a_ secret torture flights london independent u_k_ airports are believed to be used along with british support carry of people out of foreign countries to third party countries for torture It's into that new freedom.
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