Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, this week is blasting past us, it's already Thursday, the 17th day of February, 2005, and I want to take a lot of your calls in this first hour, because we've got two guests coming up later in the second and third hours, and we'll also have open phones coming up in the next segment. Any news item, any news story, any question, any comment, you ve got, we're going to take your calls and we're moving quick through your calls, give each caller about a minute and a half, about 20 seconds, and give each call about 20 minutes. 1-800-259-9231 is the toll-free number to join us. This broadcast is all about liberty and freedom. It's about exposing the New World Order, defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and defending our liberties.
00:02:02.000They build up this anger, this concern about the open borders that is totally legitimate, take border patrol agents off the northern and southern border, that's the actual numbers, And then just bring raft after raft after platter after salvo of legislation with the word immigration tagged onto it.
00:02:25.000Has nothing to do with illegal immigration.
00:02:28.000Everything to do with controlling the American people.
00:02:35.000aides cite worry on Al-Siada infiltration from Mexico.
00:02:39.000This out of the New York Times, new intelligence information strongly suggests that Al-Siada, again they say Al-Qaeda, I say their true name, Al-Siada, of the foundation of CIA controlled Islamic terror.
00:02:52.000New information strongly suggests that Al-Siada, we must unlearn what we've learned, we must change the words that they've created back into their true meanings.
00:03:04.000New intelligence information strongly suggests that Al-CiAda has considered infiltrating the United States through the Mexican border, top government officials told Congress on Wednesday.
00:03:18.000And so, we'd all better carry our good little national ID cards, or the LCIA-das will get us, but the illegal aliens don't have to have them, but they don't mention that in the article, so the average person hears this and goes, man, Bush is really doing something about it.
00:03:34.000So, more details of that are coming up.
00:03:36.000Also, Bush to tap Necroponte as Intel Director.
00:03:43.000And I have dubbed him Lord of the Death Squads.
00:03:47.000He is a singularly wicked creature, and he fits in nicely with the gaggle of vampires surrounding Lord Bush the Twitly.
00:04:00.000And so we will be going over that for you.
00:04:04.000Also, Australian government keeping secret database of people who criticize its policies.
00:04:09.000Schwarzenegger plan has Republicans wary.
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00:08:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:21.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, as we defend liberty and resist tyranny, Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central Standard Time, back from 9 to midnight. - All right.
00:08:37.000I'm Alex Jones, your host, and your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.
00:08:41.000We're going to have wide-open phones throughout the broadcast today, and we've got two big guests coming on, one in the third hour, who's exposing Mr. Negroponte, to be the new National Security Advisor, National Intel Director.
00:08:59.000He's the current ambassador to Iraq, and he was the chief organizer and commander, I would call him a lord, or a commissar, or you could choose the term if you liked, Commodore of the death squads in Latin America.
00:09:19.000And you can go, well they were fat and cummies.
00:09:23.000Uh, yeah, while our government was giving all the weapons systems to Russia and China and making deals with China to de-industrialize this country and giving them all the different awards through the United Nations, death squads were marching all over Latin America pulling out whole families and machine gunning them and throwing them in pits and raping and killing people's wives and children in front of them.
00:10:08.000Black ski masks and black uniforms are real big in the Balkans, too.
00:10:13.000And, uh, if you look at the Bush Administration, they're all lovers of torture, lovers of death, lovers of evil, lovers of abortion, lovers of open borders, uh, lovers of gun control, lovers of just, it's pure evil!
00:13:01.000That's all gonna be coming up as well with more details of that.
00:13:06.000Some good news and then I'm going to your calls.
00:13:09.000Remember a couple days ago we had the father on who first said no at Sutter California Elementary School, Brittany Elementary School, where they wear these huge RFID tracker chips around their necks that track everything they do in the school.
00:13:26.000And he said no, and a bunch of other parents started questioning it.
00:14:19.000That's about all I can say at this point, said Ernie Graham, the superintendent and principal of Brittany Elementary School in Sutter, California, said Tuesday night.
00:14:31.000Nobody on this campus knows every student.
00:14:34.000The badges developed by Sutter-based technology group, IncomCorp, were introduced January 18th.
00:14:41.000The school board was set to talk about the controversial policy Tuesday night, but tabled the discussion after ICOM announced it was terminating the agreement.
00:14:51.000Parent Don Cantrell, who filed a complaint with the American Civil Liberties Union, told the Marysville Appeal Democrat, I'm happy for now that kids are not being tagged, but I'm still fighting to keep it out of our school system.
00:15:08.000The system was imposed without parental input, but the school as a way of simplifying attendance taking and potentially reduced vandalism and improved safety of the students.
00:16:59.000On Tuesday, one of your callers was a 14-year-old young man, and you were giving him some advice on how to avoid being absorbed into the beast.
00:17:10.000Well, I just said don't take drugs and get educated and get involved in sports.
00:17:16.000Well, that's what I disagree with, the sports part.
00:17:19.000My opinion is that sports is actually a major sickness in this country.
00:17:24.000It's actually decadence the way it's an obsession with so many Americans.
00:17:30.000But see, decadence is taking something that's good and going too far with it.
00:17:36.000I mean, I think the watching of it, you know, 20 hours a week, the worship of it, the tribal nature of the big events, being a spectator, I think at this level is sick.
00:17:45.000But I think it's really good for young people to get them into a lot of different swimming and track and football and baseball and softball and wrestling.
00:18:17.000Well, it programs people to be blind, unquestioning, obedient lackeys.
00:18:22.000And it conditions people to accept groupthink.
00:18:26.000As you pointed out many times, if the citizens in this country use just 1% of the time, money, and energy that they spend on the national sports obsession, studying the Constitution or history, how much better off we'd be.
00:18:41.000Did you ever see Hearts and Minds, about 1970, that film making the connection between the simulated warfare of football and the unconstitutional and immoral war in Vietnam?
00:18:54.000No, but I mean the government is now trying to compare the war to football.
00:18:58.000They do that in ads and in propaganda and they even sell like W bumper stickers that show like W on the football helmet like it's rah rah our team and it's just like Rome with the gladiatorial diversions Well, I'd agree there.
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00:24:46.000She was probably controlled by Al-Qaeda.
00:24:48.000Well, we may end up getting interned down at Gitmo for saying this, you know?
00:24:52.000You know, I think Mr. Gonzalez needs to stop worrying about California porno films and pay attention a little closer to home.
00:25:00.000What apparently started as like an inconvenient and embarrassing misadventure is morphing into a potential powder keg for this administration.
00:25:09.000This Jeff Gannon, supposedly a reporter, along with several other Hannity Limbaugh clones, was apparently hired to ask softball questions at George Bush's press conference.
00:25:20.000Well, he actually, the media is spinning it.
00:25:22.000It's admitted he's paid through an organization controlled by the Bush administration and they gave him a fake name so he wouldn't be recognized and targeted.
00:25:32.000What the media focuses on, is he going to get in trouble for giving a fake name?
00:25:38.000Well, there are several laminations here and it seems like the bloggers, and I don't know how true this is, but apparently It's the old Franklin cover-up rearing its ugly head again, because from what I'm understanding, there's a possibility of underage gay prostitutes in the White House again.
00:25:57.000Well, we've got the Washington Times headline on that.
00:26:01.000Back in 89, they ran a headline and apparently... In fact, I don't have that in front of me, but it just says gay prostitutes.
00:26:22.000Okay, and it was a whole write-up, and I think there were several, maybe two or three other articles in papers regarding this.
00:26:30.000But apparently this whole hiring scandal goes much deeper, and I think it also ties into gay porno and prostitutes, underage gay prostitutes in the White House involving the hiring.
00:26:47.000I haven't read that about this case, but I've certainly seen that over the years in a bunch of other mainstream publications, thanks for the call.
00:26:54.000I mean, I've got the New York Post headline, Top Gay Porn Star Services VIPs at Bohemian Grove.
00:27:02.000And I mean, I've got spy magazine articles, AP articles, from the 80s, where they just bus in the male prostitutes.
00:27:11.000And yes, the White House, during conservative administrations, It has come up with the underage, we're talking 16-year-old and younger, male prostitutes.
00:27:23.000I mean, it blows the mind that this kind of stuff is going on.
00:27:28.000But hey, they say they're Christian and conservative.
00:28:28.000The New York Times said a lengthy article by Adam Cohen, a real hard-hitting diatribe against the book in the editorial page.
00:28:38.000Well, I haven't seen it, but they do that.
00:28:39.000They'll have a limited political spectrum, and then they'll have false debates within the spectrum, and then that fools us to think that there's an alternative there, then we contain ourselves within the limited choices.
00:28:50.000But I haven't read the book, so I'm not... I'm not... I have no right to comment on it.
00:28:57.000I read a review of it in the New American Magazine for this month, or this week.
00:29:02.000that is February 21st issue, and he addressed the issue of slavery.
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00:29:15.000And he has a quote by Ulysses S. Grant, if I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side.
00:29:25.000Well, that's what Lincoln said that too.
00:29:29.000I know, and then he goes on, issue after issue.
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00:33:09.000Coming up in the second hour, here in about 26 minutes, we'll be talking to Cindy Sheehan.
00:33:16.000She was going to be on with us Monday, but she had a veterinary emergency with a cat, I think she said.
00:33:22.000But she'll be joining us in the next hour, mother of Army Specialist Casey Austin Sheehan, killed in action in the middle of last year, and she's the co-founder of Gold Star Families for Peace.
00:33:38.000We'll cover the related news article, Not Worth My Son's Sacrifice.
00:33:42.000And then at one o'clock, ladies and gentlemen, we have Matthew Rothschild joining us.
00:33:50.000And you do not want to miss that interview to talk about Mr. Necroponte and to talk to Mr. Rothschild.
00:33:58.000So that should be a lot of fun as well.
00:34:01.000We're going to go to Carlos, and Michael, and Larry, and Harvey, and everybody here in just one moment.
00:34:08.000But first, syndicated talk show host Jack Blobs called in.
00:34:35.000I mean, they are, see, I believe you need to trace them back to the CIA, Eagle Publishing, and Al Regnery, and Oliver North, and all of that.
00:34:41.000So, you're right to cast a weary eye on that, but he's really great.
00:34:45.000So, if you get a chance, maybe bring him on.
00:34:47.000I think he does a fantastic job on really painting an accurate picture of history.
00:34:58.000You're right again to be a little bit weary of them, but there are exceptions.
00:35:02.000In fact, the guy that used to carry the nuclear football for Clinton, Buzz, I can't remember his last name, but he was another guy that was also really good and really painted the picture.
00:35:12.000No, I've interviewed him about all the stuff he saw Clinton do, yeah.
00:36:31.000In fact, last night, you had to see this on Nightline.
00:36:33.000If anybody has a copy of this, I'm sure you're going to want this, Alex.
00:36:37.000They ran the entire Nightline show, a war game, with smallpox hitting the world.
00:36:42.000Madeleine Albright acted as the American president.
00:36:45.000She was making the argument for the Americans that the vaccine and withholding vaccines from Muslims might be a good way to cull some of the Muslims politically, and they had to look at it as a political advantage.
00:36:56.000union actors were saying we need to vaccinate the world it was really scary if you didn't know that it was a war game that it was all fake you would have tuned into nightline on a_b_c_ last night and thought that uh...
00:37:07.000the proverbial you know what it the family let me stop you about four years ago before nine eleven they had a five-night series which started on a friday and then ran to the next thursday on my point where at the first they would say this is a simulation Then they would show footage of, uh, you know, riots after hurricanes or whatever, but wouldn't tell you it was, because if a hurricane was real footage, they would tell you smallpox has been released.
00:37:36.000You're telling me they did it again and Albright was talking about withholding vaccines from Muslims?
00:37:40.000Yeah, they did a whole new show of Nightline just to run this war game.
00:37:44.000And every once in a while they put a little disclaimer on your TV set, this is just a simulation, it's not real.
00:37:50.000But you're telling me, you're telling me, I mean she's famous for saying 700,000 dead Iraqi children is a good price to pay for security in the Gulf.
00:37:57.000You're telling me that she said last night, you know, in the drill, by the way she's foreign born folks, she's Czechoslovakian, her dad was a commissar, conservatively killed, this is mainstream folks, a million people.
00:38:09.000And then ran to Serbia, they protected her, and then of course decades later she bombed them with pleasure, and they had her on TV and pictures of her going, we helped you, why are you doing this to us?
00:38:18.000And of course stole their artwork, their gold, their treasure.
00:38:22.000That's been in the news, stolen artwork in her house.
00:38:25.000So they had a foreigner simulating as our president, and then she says, now be specific, she said in the piece that we may want to withhold vaccines from the Muslims.
00:38:37.000This was a long argument as more death polls were coming in across the country interwoven with a fake newscast going out through the country reporting more deaths by the CDC.
00:38:48.000Her argument, which she kept coming back to again and again, Alex, was this should be used as a political tool.
00:38:57.000And I'll tell you, you take a look at, you know, you can look at my website, jackblood.com, for just the last month, and look at all of the news.
00:39:04.000But just yesterday, if you take that one little window apart, just the news from yesterday alone, and what the media was doing in the way of con... It is fantastic.
00:39:14.000Something was happening yesterday, Alex.
00:39:16.000I think they kicked it up another notch.
00:39:17.000Well, I mean, they are kicking it up another notch.
00:39:22.000The Microsoft founder, of course, Bill Gates, working with Norway, giving a billion dollars with the plan to immunize the entire world's children by 2015.
00:39:31.000I mean, all of this really goes together, as you know.
00:39:50.000And of course, Prince Philip does that as well, and Ted Turner does, and they all give to these big vaccine funds that go around, admittedly, and forcibly inoculate whole villages and towns.
00:40:03.000They say, if you want any IMF or World Bank money, you've got to accept these UN troops coming in and vaccinating you.
00:40:08.000And the parents, this has been in the BBC, will flee the villages, running with their children from the vaccines, because they know They say, after we take the vaccines our children get sick, many of them die.
00:40:21.000But you've got to wonder, why is Prince Philip or Ted Turner, both of them who openly talk about getting rid of 80-95% of us in public speeches and books they've written, who talk about overpopulation and all this Malthusian garbage, why are they so obsessed with giving you vaccines so you don't die?
00:41:11.000I think the whole world's out of control, but go ahead.
00:41:14.000Well, Alex, we're talking about the death squad in Negroponte.
00:41:20.000You know, some of these death squads were trained at Fort Benning, Georgia, here in the military base, Army base, Fort Benning, Georgia.
00:41:32.000And there were some luminaries, they trained a lot of Latin America guerrilla leaders, Including Manuel Noriega, who was trained there, the president of Panama.
00:41:43.000Also, Roberto Guavizon, who became president of El Salvador.
00:41:50.000And of course, all these people went on to lead the death squad in El Salvador, Honduras.
00:42:08.000Because the thing is the cycle that's created.
00:42:12.000Well, Necroponte, I mean I dub him Lord of the Death Squads, he was there managing and running all of it, and tens of thousands of troops were trained in how to hook electrodes to people, how to torture them, just sheer terror, going into villages, killing whole families, And it had nothing to do with fighting communism.
00:42:30.000It was about controlling the drug production zones.
00:42:35.000Right now, from what I understand, it was the School of the Americas that is training these people to cooperate in Georgia.
00:42:41.000Of course, it changed its name now to something else.
00:42:44.000Yeah, they changed the name two years ago, yeah.
00:42:47.000Right, but right now they're training a lot of Colombians.
00:42:51.000And you can see the problems brewing in Colombia!
00:42:55.000By the way, they're hiring the old death squad colonels and commanders and paying them $400,000, $300,000 a year and they're sending them to Iraq because they can't get our own people en masse to torture.
00:43:08.000So they're actually sending, the last numbers I saw were hundreds of these guys to be torture masters.
00:43:14.000They're actually hiring these Latin Americans who did it before to send them over there.
00:43:20.000Exactly, so you know our CIA is training all these guerrilla leaders out there and they spread them across the world to spread terror across their countries and of course then people start flying out of there because of the terror and the corporations start moving into all these areas that they leave desolate and they start taking over.
00:43:40.000Another thing here real quick, I was looking at the history of the neoconservatives Alex, there's a guy named Leo Strauss Well, apparently he is the guru of the Neoconservative.
00:43:51.000Yeah, professor at the Chicago University, yeah.
00:43:54.000Right, but guess who brought him there?
00:43:59.000So the whole neoconservative philosophy, you can probably trace it to the big banking families.
00:44:05.000Well, look, we've interviewed people who were in the same classes with Strauss, who were in class with all of these neocons, you know, top neocons today, and I mean, this is admitted, this is like mainstream folks.
00:44:19.000The entire Republican hierarchy were the Communist Fourth International.
00:44:23.000And they couldn't win as communists, and they actually met and said, we're going to become neoconservatives, And we believe in fascism.
00:45:08.000Well of course, and the Rockefellers had a lot to do with it.
00:45:10.000They were the owners of... Just like they funded Hitler.
00:45:13.000It's the same story over and over again.
00:45:15.000Yeah, Standard Oil, which merged with IG Farben over in Germany, which was creating the petrochemicals that were being used to gas all the Jews in all these concentration camps.
00:45:26.000Well, IG Farben certainly was involved in all of it, and so was Brown Brother Harriman.
00:46:41.000Well, you know that the Constitution they have allows if, what is it, if 10% of the votes of the council members are against it, that's a veto power.
00:46:54.000And I saw the numbers a couple weeks ago, and I'm trying to pull them up here, and I think the Sunnis will have about 20% votes.
00:47:02.000And so basically it's a stalemate And of course, the Shiites say, keep the military here.
00:47:08.000And then in a few cases, as I predicted, they put a few wild cards in.
00:47:11.000Ooh, look, somebody who's against this one.
00:47:13.000You know, and they're over some little town or city.
00:48:56.000So large sectors of Because they couldn't have the Sunnis getting 30-40% so they had to shut down a lot of the Sunni areas for no voting.
00:49:07.000What I worry about is them leaving a very pro-Iranian government there and then creating the pretext to go back in and utterly destroy the whole region.
00:49:21.000Well, I think a lot of the experts we've talked to are saying that they're just going to start a war with Iran and then that it's going to blow up from there.
00:50:01.000He was kind of a futurist there in the Royal Institute of International Affairs court, the heart of what we call the CFR today in America, with a British counterpart.
00:50:20.000But he wrote the book New World Order in the late 30s.
00:50:24.000Yeah, he wrote a number of books that were, I guess we view them as prophetic, but like you say, he was a strongly committed Fabian socialist, and he knew what their plans were.
00:50:35.000Well, and he said, there's going to be a lot of valiant, you know, nice, moral people we're going to have to kill to get our New World Order.
00:50:41.000Yeah, and that was echoed again by... who's the historian in the Wall Street Journal back in the early 90s.
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00:59:26.000They know that individuals who are highly motivated and focused and have good information can change the course of history.
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00:59:47.000More and more of their own people are going public inside the IMF and World Bank, inside these big corporations, and blowing the whistle on this corrupt New World Order.
00:59:57.000And as the New World Order comes into view, as people see the details of it, as they realize how horrible it is, you're going to see more resistance.
01:00:08.000That's why, consequently, at the same time, the converse of it, is the globalists are racing to expand the structure of control, the electronic straitjacket, the societal black ski masking of the police, the armored vehicles, the face scanning cameras, because they know the stuff they got planned for humanity is so horrible you're gonna buck.
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01:00:46.000Right now, let's talk to Harvey in Florida.
01:00:53.000Your callers are so informed and talking about so many important subjects today.
01:00:59.000I'd like to talk about one or two things.
01:01:02.000First of all, our training of all the military around the world, how to kill and slaughter their own people, which is Negroponte's job in Iraq.
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01:06:58.000Every day they beat the drums to go to war with Iran.
01:07:13.000They're telling us if there's terror attacks in America, it's probably going to be Iran or Syria.
01:07:19.000Yesterday, Iran and Syria signed a defense pact together to fight the globalists.
01:07:29.000I wouldn't want to say the United States.
01:07:31.000And again, I'm not defending Iran or Syria.
01:07:34.000I mean, those countries are run by monsters too.
01:07:37.000But they're no threat compared to Pakistan or North Korea or China or Russia that our government coddles and loves and arms.
01:07:45.000And we got Rumsfeld giving nuclear reactors to North Korea when he was on the board of ABB.
01:07:50.000Then they tell us we've got to march our sons and daughters now off and they've set up this big move for a national draft, introduced legislation.
01:07:58.000We've got to send them off to fight and die when the PENAC documents written by Dick Cheney said in 2000 it's about oil, Saddam in the threat.
01:08:08.000It's about oil and using Iraq as a military base.
01:08:11.000But we can use Saddam as a pretext to get that oil.
01:09:39.000First off, let's personalize this because the government doesn't like us to do that.
01:09:43.000They don't want us to photograph the coffins.
01:09:45.000In Louisiana, we had the military refuse to follow orders because the families wanted the caskets to be seen.
01:09:52.000Tell us about your son, his life, just in a nutshell, what happened when he was sent out of country, and then now your fight to try to save other lives.
01:10:03.000Okay, well, Casey was 24 when he was killed and he was just, you know, just one of the most amazing people.
01:10:15.000He was very low-key and He was very calm and gentle and sweet.
01:10:23.000And he joined the Army in May of 2000.
01:10:28.000He wanted to give something back to the country.
01:10:42.000When he was 18, he stopped being an altar boy and went to serve the church in other capacities.
01:10:48.000And he did that even throughout his army service.
01:10:54.000He went to mass and helped the chapel where he was stationed.
01:11:02.000On April 4th, 2004, he had only been in Iraq for two weeks and there was a battle going on.
01:11:09.000If you'll remember, April 1st was when the contractors in Fallujah were mutilated and hung from the bridge.
01:11:18.000And that's right after Paul Bremer took away their newspaper, the Shiite's newspaper and TV and said some highly inflammatory things and inflamed the Shiite's rebellion against our armed forces.
01:11:36.000And on April 4th in Sadr City, which is a Shiite ghetto in Baghdad,
01:11:45.000Some of the Shiites overtook some police stations and a group was sent out to take the police stations back from the Shiite rebels and they were ambushed and they were in a fierce battle and my son and some people on his post were listening to the battle over the radio and they were told to put together a quick response team to go out and to save the
01:12:14.000You know, to help the soldiers that were trapped in the battle that they were in.
01:12:18.000Well, my son volunteered to go on that mission, and he was a Humvee mechanic.
01:12:23.000He was also trained to be a combat lifesaver, which is like a step below a medic.
01:12:30.000So they get to the soldiers and try to stabilize them.
01:12:37.000So they try to stabilize the soldiers.
01:12:40.000Anyway, on the way to To that combat, they were trapped and ambushed and seven soldiers were killed in that ambush and Casey was one of them.
01:13:12.000And so, we, you know, at that point, we thought that it was a senseless war.
01:13:18.000And I, you know, when Casey was home last Christmas, I begged him not to go.
01:13:24.000You know, I would joke around with him and tell him to hold still so I can run him over and stuff like that and break his legs or You know, knock him out and take him to Canada, but he just said, Mom, come on.
01:13:47.000And I saw one poor fella on CNN whose brother was killed.
01:13:51.000He's sitting there with his eight-month-old baby on his lap, and he goes, well, You know, they killed my brother, so I'm going back.
01:13:59.000Look, that vengeance isn't going to bring his brother back, and what it's going to do is perhaps end up having his baby lose a father and his parents who were begging him to stay.
01:14:13.000Going back so a bunch of fat cats can, you know, play risk on the face of the earth.
01:14:19.000Yeah, and Casey, one of Casey's buddies, in fact it was his best friend, He was with Casey when he died.
01:14:25.000He was Casey's chief in the motor pool.
01:14:28.000And he was on leave in September and he came back.
01:14:31.000And he came to visit us because he lives in California too.
01:14:35.000And he said, Cindy, they lied to us so bad.
01:14:38.000They told us we were going to go over there and we were going to build schools and get their water system going and build up relationships with the Iraqi people.
01:14:47.000He goes, every day this is what we do.
01:14:50.000They try to kill us, and we try to kill them.
01:14:53.000And he says it's all about just keeping each other alive.
01:14:55.000And I said, Mike, you know, you don't have to go back.
01:14:57.000This is against the law, what I'm about to tell you.
01:15:00.000But I said, you know, we have money from Casey.
01:15:03.000If you want to take your family to Canada, or if you need a lawyer, we will help to fight to keep you from going back to this immoral war.
01:15:11.000And he said, Cindy, I have to go back.
01:15:22.000They don't want to betray their friends, which is admirable, but then you look at the larger scale, it's just going to continue this black hole while a bunch of, I mean I watch Bush and the rest of them, I mean they're walking around in $5,000 gowns, and his daughters are putting their lipstick on and laughing, and they're just up there smirking, and the Democrats are all voting for this war, and they're just a bunch of, they're a bunch of decadent lying trash.
01:15:49.000And our young men are honorable and brave, and they're dying for this.
01:15:55.000And to me, it's just despicable what our country is doing.
01:15:59.000And, you know, I just want to say something to your parents out there.
01:16:02.000There is going to be a draft, and it's going to be coming sooner than we think.
01:16:06.000And don't let these maniacs have your children.
01:16:10.000Well, it's sacrificing them to the New World Order.
01:16:17.000I mean, we've got guard who's been in country for two years, getting a month off here or there, and they're telling them, sorry, four years now, you're gonna... I mean, even in Vietnam and World War II, they didn't keep you in combat for, you know, for more than a year.
01:16:29.000Right, and people don't understand that.
01:16:30.000You know, they don't understand that there's already a draft, a backdoor draft, and a stop loss, and...
01:16:36.000And people say, well they signed on for that.
01:16:45.000And folks, people sit there, these armchair quarterbacks, And go, you know, attack Iran, attack Syria like it's something entertaining to watch on TV.
01:16:54.000Folks, they're going to send your children, and when they get their arms and legs blown off, or even worse, die, you know, you're going to be on this show.
01:17:01.000I'm having people call me, you know, after they lose children, oh, the war was wrong, you were right, I was wrong.
01:17:07.000You know, they better, we don't have to do this so these globalists can have the oil.
01:17:12.000You know, and it's just so, um, it's so heartbreaking when You know, I really blame myself for letting my son go.
01:17:23.000And people now, since Casey died, you know, all the proof has come out.
01:17:31.000And I didn't know anything about the Project for a New American Century before my son was killed.
01:18:01.000Well, and then people won't wake up and realize that their government has betrayed them, and That's what Gold Star Families for Peace is trying to do.
01:18:11.000We're trying to wake these people up so they don't get the wake-up call that we get.
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01:22:48.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:23:01.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:23:06.000Coming up in the next segment, we're going to take some of your calls.
01:23:09.000And if you disagree with us, if you think this war is a great thing, and you're like half-Americans in major polls who believe Saddam Hussein attacked us on 9-11, even though the government admits he didn't, or if you believe the propaganda that weapons of mass destruction were found, call us and explain to us.
01:23:31.000Or if you think the draft's a great thing, or if you think that this war's good, Or if you disagree with it, we'd love to hear from you.
01:23:38.000If you've got family serving over there, 1-800-259-9231.
01:24:24.000And he still had bandages on his legs.
01:24:27.000And then I saw another fellow, a white guy, you know, nice looking guy with his, you know, short haircut, sitting there in the grocery store, having trouble pushing the cart, you know, and guiding it.
01:24:38.000And he had his arm blown off up at the shoulder.
01:24:41.000I said, did you just get back from Iraq?
01:24:46.000But I mean, I'm seeing wreckage just around me.
01:24:51.000And it's been in major newspapers that they will discharge somebody in Germany at Rammstein or other bases, the big medical bases, just so they don't have to pay for their flight back and make families pay to fly them back.
01:25:12.000Um, well, you know, I always get accused of not supporting the troops by my work, and, you know, I know my only way of supporting the troops now is since this is a proven, um, based on lies, this war, it has been unequivocally proven that it's based on lies, is to bring them home.
01:25:31.000Not one drop of Iraqi or American blood should be shed.
01:25:34.000They should just get out of there as fast as possible.
01:25:38.000And what I find even more despicable is the injuries in this war are way more serious than other wars.
01:25:45.000They're more often than not getting more than one limb blown off because of their Kevlar body armor.
01:26:15.000Normally in Vietnam or World War II or Korea, you would die from your injuries because they were so bad.
01:26:20.000But the body armor is so good that it just blows everything off that was around it.
01:26:26.000And so normally they would die, now they're not dying, and then they get here, and yes, people in the hospitals, I mean I'm talking triple amputees, are being forced to pay for their own meals.
01:26:38.000And they say that I don't support the troops.
01:26:42.000Supporting the troops means being mindless.
01:26:44.000cutting them loose, not caring about them, just waving a plastic flag.
01:26:48.000Supporting the troops means not caring about them, letting them breathe the depleted uranium, letting them take the experimental vaccines that are illegal to give them.
01:26:56.000Supporting the troops means not caring about them.
01:26:58.000You've got to learn double think here, Cindy.
01:26:59.000Well, you know what, too, Alex, is that we found out, you know, Casey was only over there for two weeks, so he just started a letter and he didn't have a chance to finish it, and we got it back with his things.
01:27:12.000But we found out that for the last two weeks of his life he was sleeping in his Humvee because there wasn't enough cots on post.
01:27:20.000He was stationed at FOB War Eagle in Sodder City and since he didn't, he gave up a bed, he was allowed to have one other meal a day.
01:27:29.000Because they were down to one meal a day.
01:27:32.000So if you give up your bed, you can have two meals a day.
01:27:37.000Halliburton does the meals, and they get billions, and they've been caught feeding old, rotten meals to them, contaminated water.
01:27:44.000It's all about profit, but for all the private contractors and CIA folks, they've got topless dancers, the finest whiskeys, drugs in the green zone, and they're just partying, while outside the armored compound, our troops are being slaughtered.
01:27:58.000And so, you know, and I just want to tell people, your listeners, supporting the troops would be getting them out of there, because, you know, we're going into Iran or Syria next, and our kids will never come home.
01:28:12.000It's going to be perpetual war, and that's what these people want, because they're getting richer.
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01:32:29.000And these reports, I've talked to the troops in person, but it's also been in mainstream news that They'll turn their tanks on when it's cold, because the winter just passed.
01:32:39.000And they'll be told, uh, turn them off, don't use fuel.
01:32:43.000Then the officers all go off and stay in the lavish palaces while they literally sleep in their tanks and their Humvees, and they're not given cold weather gear, they're given nothing, they're given, as she said, one meal a day.
01:33:09.000And the Democrats and Republicans won't talk about it because they're all for this.
01:33:13.000They're all living high on the hog off this slavery.
01:33:16.000Cindy, tell us about your organization and any other points you want to make before we go to these calls.
01:33:21.000I founded an organization called Gold Star Families for Peace.
01:33:25.000A gold star family is a family that has lost a loved one in the war.
01:33:30.000And we were all Going out separately around the country, speaking out for peace and against the war, and to support our troops by bringing them home.
01:33:42.000And our mission is to bring the troops home before any other families have to go through what we're going through.
01:33:48.000And we realize we can't bring our loved ones back, but hopefully with our efforts and what we say and what we do, we can bring the rest of America's children home before it's too late.
01:33:59.000And if you want to go on our website, it's www.gssssp.org.
01:34:09.000And give that address out one more time, please.
01:35:10.000A lot of them are flown out to Germany and then that doesn't count as dying from wounds from combat.
01:35:17.000And that the numbers, as you mentioned earlier, of just injured and maimed and disfigured is astronomically higher because of the body armor.
01:35:30.000I've been told also that as long as they get their foot on a helicopter They don't count as being killed in Iraq, so they're not counted as an official death in the war.
01:35:46.000And I was talking to a Marine that had been out of the Marines, and he worked in the morgue.
01:35:54.000And he told me, and this was months ago, he told me that the casualty figures are way low.
01:36:01.000He said that at least a thousand Marines have been killed in this war.
01:36:34.000And so, on top of it, I'm sure you heard about a month ago that in Louisiana they were bringing in a bunch of the dead and the families that we wanted to be seen and the officers rebelled and said, okay, we're going to show people the covens.
01:36:47.000So we're also seeing now people in the military aren't putting up with this.
01:36:50.000I mean, the propaganda we hear that the troops love and worship Bush and they just love the war, from what I've been hearing from the troops, that's not the case.
01:36:59.000Well, from the troops I hear from, that's not the case either.
01:37:02.000I'm sure if you go, if you went over there and searched and searched you can find people that still support the war and support the president and those are the only people that we see on the mainstream news.
01:37:16.000The picture that Tammy Solisio took back in April of the flag-draped coffins coming home that she got fired from her job for, my son was in one of those coffins.
01:37:30.000Before that, the Army does not tell you anything.
01:37:32.000The only reason I know about details of my son's death is that his buddy told me.
01:37:38.000They've filled in the missing pieces of that day.
01:37:42.000And before I saw that picture on the news, we didn't know that if maybe they just put Casey in a body bag and stacked him in the corner like cordwood.
01:37:54.000You know, and to us, to see what care they were, and honor that they were treated with from the time You know, they left Iraq to come back to America.
01:38:03.000You know, that was something that was a comfort to us.
01:38:07.000You know, these boys are sent over to be killed and then they're brought back in the dark of night like they're, like, you know, they should be ashamed of themselves.
01:38:32.000My son was an honorable, brave man who went to save his buddies.
01:38:38.000I only question the people who sent them there and what were any of them doing there in that situation anyway.
01:38:44.000Well, if you support the Tribs... Of course I do.
01:38:46.000No, I was going to say, if you support the Tribs and the listeners, then you should have them back here right now.
01:38:51.000I have had the man who literally wrote the book for the Pentagon, the PhD, the doctorate, on this broadcast, who was sent to Iraq to study DU in 91, Almost his whole team has died.
01:40:14.000Well, what about all the Iraqi children that have been born since the first Gulf War with terrible deformities because of the DU we left out last year?
01:40:23.000Their deformities have at least tripled.
01:40:30.000You know, another thing that we don't talk about... Those four vets have three times the higher percentage as well of having to form children.
01:42:04.000We're bad because we want to support them and have them, you know, when their arms and legs are blown off, get their plane ticket paid for.
01:43:44.000And he's a staff sergeant, so they've made him a platoon leader, which means he drives in one of them armored Humvees, kind of like, you know, lead man.
01:43:54.000You know, there's no more dangerous job than being a point man.
01:43:58.000And the mechanics and others there, the MPs and stuff for the Air Force, have even volunteered to go do the parameter patrols.
01:44:06.000But they said it'd take about three weeks to train them for that.
01:44:11.000Plus, they need somebody to work on the aircraft.
01:44:14.000When they come in, damaged or something, and the Air Force will not even keep aircraft there.
01:44:22.000So what we have is, what we have is, well we have people living in these ivory towers with marble all around them, out on their million dollar jet boats, flying in their helicopters, laughing, giggling, slurping beer.
01:44:41.000Yeah, and let's not forget about these pieces of garbage that are going also to Bohemian Groves to live it up while our boys are getting slaughtered over there.
01:44:49.000That's right, all our Christian conservative leaders are going to have sex with their male prostitutes.
01:44:58.000I'm still doing my thing with your videos and getting the word out as much as I can and I'm finding a lot more people are waking up And, uh, I'm, uh, the tapes that Dave and Joyce made, uh, the Gulf War Vets and all of the stuff about that, I'm getting those out, too, in regards to your DU and everything.
01:45:16.000And, you know, if you go to the website, right on the base's own website, Balad, Iraq is where it is, B-A-L-A-D, right on the base's own website, it says that they inspected for HMX, because that's one of the places that the HMX was stored.
01:46:33.000Hey, I spoke about this before, Alex, but on Tarawa during World War II, we had an average temperature of around 130 degrees.
01:46:43.000And once we were able to take over the land and expel all the Japanese, we could take off our battle gear.
01:46:54.000We could go around and cheese search and dungarees.
01:46:57.000But the idea is these kids over here, they have to go around in full battle dress and temperatures of 130 degrees.
01:47:04.000The point is, you had an enemy in front of you, classical warfare, symmetrical, that you could go defeat and then you'd get R&R and play volleyball and go swimming.
01:47:15.000Yeah, well, we, like I said before, We had sweat glands rattle up on our body and we had these large cysts, big as your thumbnail, come up all over our back, over the back of our neck, behind our ear, got fungus in our ears, and I used to go into the bow of an airplane and clean the five machine guns, and I'd be in there 15 minutes, I'd come out soaking wet.
01:47:39.000And can you imagine what these kids with battle gear are doing?
01:47:43.000And they are having heart attacks and everything over there.
01:47:46.000The people over there, especially the Guard and the Reserve, they're all out of shape.
01:48:15.000Well, you know what the bad part is, when it comes right down to it, the one-worlders Trying to take our borders away and destroy our sovereignty and the Iraqis are actually fighting our war against the one worlders and we're killing the Iraqis.
01:48:34.000Unbelievable Barney, thank you for your call.
01:48:42.000Yes, well you know what, I guess war has always been really bad but Like you said, if we were attacked, if the United States was in danger, we would all defend our country.
01:48:55.000I'd go out with my rolling pin to try and get, you know, the attackers out of the country.
01:49:00.000And I don't blame the Iraqi people for my son's death at all.
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01:55:53.000I mean, just really get out there and make more noise.
01:55:57.000I love your work, and we are in a serious situation in history right now.
01:56:04.000Sandy, do you have anything to say to what our caller is saying?
01:56:08.000Well, I'm screaming so loud I'm losing my voice.
01:56:11.000So, I was screaming out in the rain the other day, and you know, we just need more people to help us, Louie, so join us in our I want people to know that this is not a joke.
01:56:24.000take a lot of us screaming to wake America up because we can't wake this administration up.
01:56:30.000Well, I want people to know that this is not a joke.
01:56:35.000The troops really do have to pay for their own food.
01:56:38.000They really do. - They tell them you've got to have clean uniforms, but then they charge them $100 for 10 pounds of laundry.
01:56:50.000Our government's so corrupt, the private corporations there literally ensure that they suck every amount of money out of their paychecks, and then nothing goes home to the families.
01:59:10.000The troops are nothing more than property or assets to be used.
01:59:14.000Now, the war, in my opinion, was about Saddam not accepting dollars for payment for oil, and there was a lot of talk in the Middle East about that occurring.
01:59:23.000Now, the Fed needed to put a stop to any of the talk about dumping the dollar, and it came out yesterday evening, Alex, that the Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, Daddy Bush, Newt Gingrich, and many big players in Washington, D.C., were also involved in the food for oil scandal.
01:59:56.000Yeah, but the Federal Reserve actually made more money than any other group.
02:00:01.000Hey, the Federal Reserve, this came out a year and a half ago, the Federal Reserve takes the money from Iraq, from the oil, and puts it in its own bank account.
02:00:09.000Just type in Federal Reserve taking oil money.
02:01:39.000My son, his recruiter broke six promises to him.
02:01:44.000The folks they admit, I've talked to recruiters, they're told to lie to you.
02:01:48.000And they will tell you that you're going to be a mechanic, or you're going to be a jet pilot, and you will be on the front lines paying for your food.
02:01:59.000I went to the recruiter to go in as an officer and they told me that they're meeting their quotas and like you said they're lowering their quotas because when I called the personnel center they said we're hurting for people so the double speak out there's just incredible right I feel for you for losing your son but my sons and daughters aren't going in I'll Oh no, don't let them go in.
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02:06:25.000He's talking about Bush's pick of John Negroponte for National Intelligence Director, basically to control all the intelligence agencies and to make sure that, well, stuff doesn't leak out and they have little 9-11 type operations for us to give us the new draft and the next level of the police state.
02:06:44.000And I've read Mr. Rothschild's writings many times over the years.
02:06:56.000Tell us about yourself and your magazine and then let's get into Negroponte, I mean, it looks like to be in the administration you've got to have credentials in death squads and torture.
02:07:08.000Yeah, that seems to be a prerequisite and this guy really has got dirty hands.
02:07:12.000I mean, Negroponte was involved as U.S.
02:07:15.000Ambassador in Honduras in the early 1980s with approving or condoning the torture that the Honduran government was doing there.
02:07:24.000there was a battalion called Battalion 316 that the Honduran government had operating there.
02:07:31.000It was trained by the CIA and had killed at least 189 people, including throwing people out of planes.
02:07:36.000And Negro Ponce covered up for them and wrote Congress that the Honduran government was having a fine human rights record when actually it was deep into this kind of serious, I've been at the Progressive here for 23 years.
02:07:55.000Tell folks who you are, and then let's talk about the magazine. - Sure.
02:07:59.000I've been at The Progressive here for 23 years.
02:08:01.000The Progressive magazine was founded in 1909 by fighting Bob LaFollette, one of the original progressives.
02:08:07.000And we've been, ever since, trying to put forward these ideas of civil rights and civil liberties and nonviolence and in opposition to US administration adventurism overseas and a control on corporate power.
02:08:20.000Those are the pillars of progressivism as we see it.
02:08:26.000We've got about 65,000 subscribers around the country.
02:08:29.000Well, before we get into Negroponte and I Love Torture Gonzales and Bushes Above the Law Gonzales and just this whole gaggle of creatures, I've always been curious about that.
02:08:40.000So you're related to the famous European Rothschild family, or are you not?
02:08:44.000You know, if I had a dollar every time I was asked that, maybe I would be one of those European bankers by now, but no, there's no relation.
02:08:52.000Well, because I'm wondering, because that family had another name and they changed it, you know, Red Shield in German Rothschild.
02:08:57.000So I guess other people took the name Red Shield?
02:09:00.000Mostly it was just, you know, it is a German name and it's a big family in Europe was involved in banking and then in wine business.
02:09:07.000But yeah, Rothschild in German means Red Shield.
02:09:10.000But it's always been Rothschild for my family, which came over in 1848 when a lot of Jews left Germany because of programs over there.
02:09:25.000It seems like some of the Rothschilds in Europe are involved in some of this globalism as well.
02:09:30.000Well, I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but...
02:09:33.000I've got no connection with European rock charts.
02:09:35.000Necroponte, what you just said about him is the lightest stuff.
02:09:37.000interesting uh you know just historically you know napoleon all of the battle of waterloo but just very interesting uh so i mean necroponte i mean you really what you just said about him i think is the kind of the lightest stuff i mean this guy has just been involved in so much dirt and bush is really openly saying he's above the law and building a scary mechanism that They're sending Homeland Security out to toy stores to harass people over copyright infringement or trademark infringement.
02:10:07.000They're arresting veterans that complain too much.
02:10:10.000I mean, it's like they're building some type of cross between Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany.
02:10:15.000I'm not just worried about foreign countries being under all this.
02:10:20.000Well, you've got to be worried about our civil rights and civil liberties, Alex, with what's going on with the U.S.A.
02:10:24.000Patriot Act and with even addendums to the U.S.A.
02:10:27.000Patriot Act that have been passed that allow the government, essentially, to forget about the judiciary and not go and get a warrant to go search your place.
02:10:35.000They can write up their own warrants and go snoop on you any time they want.
02:10:38.000So that's a real serious issue domestically.
02:10:40.000Negro Poxy's got just one of the longest bloody trails of anyone in power right now, and he was a guy who in Vietnam is Henry Kissinger's deputy.
02:10:49.000...was suggesting to Kissinger that the United States shouldn't make a deal.
02:10:55.000That they should keep fighting the Vietnam War.
02:10:57.000I don't know how long he wanted to keep fighting the Vietnam War, but he was to the right of Henry Kissinger during those days, which gives you an idea about where he's coming from.
02:11:06.000Well, I had Selly Castillo on, who was the head DEA agent for seven years for Latin America, and he said Necroponte was involved in everything, not just death squads.
02:11:16.000And he said this guy was like a super gopher who was controlling everything.
02:11:20.000Well, he was controlling the illegal contra war for Ronald Reagan in the early 1980s as ambassador to Honduras.
02:11:28.000So he must have known about the Iran-Contra, the drugs-for-weapons deal, all the stuff that Oliver North was doing and a lot of other illegal activity there.
02:11:37.000But the thing that disturbs me most really is his just covering up for torture.
02:11:42.000I mean, there were people who had fled El Salvador after Archbishop Romero was killed by death squads that the U.S.
02:11:50.000And Archbishop Romero's secretary, a woman, was one of 30 women who this battalion in Honduras took up into airplanes and flew out of planes.
02:11:59.000And then when some American citizens, including some nuns, went down there to ask Negro Ponce what happened, he pretended he knew nothing about it.
02:12:16.000And so it's a scary thing for me to believe that he's going to be head of intelligence here.
02:12:20.000I mean, it seems to me that the Bush administration is sending an unmistakable message to people around the world with the appointment of Gonzales and now of Negroponte that, you know, torture is in.
02:12:31.000Well, you were You know, talking about how he's this bloody operator, but then you mention U.S.
02:13:17.000But I do think the United States is an empire.
02:13:20.000I do think it is useful to continue to talk in terms of right and left sometimes.
02:13:25.000I think more Democrats and certainly more progressives are opposed to this war in Iraq, though there is some support for getting out of the war on the right as well.
02:13:34.000And I think we need to recognize that we're no longer really a functioning democracy here because the interests of the U.S.
02:13:41.000corporate elite and also the interests of the people like Negroponte and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld who run U.S.
02:13:49.000foreign policy is antithetical to the interests of most of the people in this country.
02:13:56.000I mean, and our founders would be aghast at war and empire.
02:14:29.000I want to look into your crystal ball.
02:14:32.000From your experience, I want your predictions.
02:14:34.000This is why I ask everybody who comes on this broadcast about these subjects.
02:14:38.000What do you see happening in the next four years?
02:14:41.000Well, you know what scares me the most, Alex, is the possibility that the United States is attacked again by terrorists, this time with a chemical or biological weapon.
02:14:50.000And if the United States is attacked again, I think, if Katie barred the door, I think the Bush administration will go attack just about every country that Bush doesn't like.
02:15:10.000I still think he wants to attack North Korea even though the Pentagon has done a war game on that and a million people would die in the first five days according to its own estimates.
02:15:18.000But I think Bush thinks he's, you know, he's got the message from God that he's got to go attack this country, that country, and the next to deliver the gift of freedom.
02:15:41.000But not only that, there's another senior administration official at the Pondlevick office who used the exact phrase.
02:15:47.000And that was Wayne Downing, one of Condoleezza Rice's deputies, who said, if we're attacked again, this time with weapons of mass destruction, we're going to have to declare martial law.
02:15:56.000Well, that's what Eberhardt said, too.
02:16:02.000attorney, the head of counterterrorism in Wisconsin, when I was talking to some University of Wisconsin-Green Bay about this.
02:16:10.000And I mentioned this fear, and I thought he was going to say, oh, that crazy Rothschild from that crazy left-wing magazine, The Progressive, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
02:16:17.000Declaring martial law would be the last thing we'd ever do.
02:16:19.000No, he said, we've got to really consider this.
02:16:21.000This is something we've got to get on the table.
02:16:22.000Well, there was a Gannett News Service article in 2003 where they said, we're going to lock down the schools, take your children, take them to FEMA camps, under a code red, you have no rights, it will be martial law, we'll be formed into work brigades.
02:16:36.000I mean, this is their cover for total dictatorship.
02:16:40.000Well, I don't think it would come to that, but I do think they've got plans underway on the shelves that they could, you know, bring out just as they brought out plans after September 11th to ram the Patriot Act down our throats to really curtail our freedoms.
02:16:52.000Wayne Downing, Condoleezza Rice's deputy at the National Security Council, was saying we're going to have to have The Army be able to arrest people.
02:17:00.000Well, to show my ignorance here, I've seen a dozen other officials say this, but I wasn't aware of Wayne Downing saying that.
02:17:06.000Can you give me maybe the headline for an article so I can Google that and get it posted?
02:17:11.000Yeah, I mean, you can just Google it, Wayne Downing and martial law, and I think in Washington Post it will come up.
02:17:24.000They're just slobbering, foaming at the mouth for this.
02:17:27.000Yeah, I mean, this is the most anti-democratic administration maybe ever, certainly since the days of Richard Nixon running around drunk in the White House.
02:17:38.000Oh, Richard Nixon was an angel compared to these people.
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02:22:12.000You mentioned another Bush administration official, Rice's deputy, who talked about martial law that I wasn't aware of.
02:22:19.000I was aware of Eberhardt and Franks and a bunch of others, but tell us about this other individual.
02:22:27.000Yeah, I grabbed it here in my little file.
02:22:30.000This is an article from the Washington Post dated Tuesday, December 24th.
02:22:33.000It started on the front with the title, In U.S.
02:22:36.000Terrorism's Peril Undiminished, and it goes on then for about 50 paragraphs and about paragraph 37 which gives you an idea about the Washington Post really putting the important stuff at the top.
02:22:48.000Here is Wayne Downing, Condoleezza Rice's deputy, now retired.
02:22:53.000The United States may have to declare martial law someday, Downing said, in the case of a devastating attack with weapons of mass destruction causing tens of thousands of casualties.
02:23:03.000This could mean that the military would be given the authority to impose curfews, protect businesses and communities, even make arrests, unquote.
02:23:12.000And so during the fog of all this, they can run around and arrest the dissidents and do whatever they want, and meanwhile rob pension funds and run their scams while the smoke screen's going.
02:23:22.000Yeah, they can just get away with doing that thing.
02:23:24.000I mean, they can just suspend the Constitution.
02:23:26.000That's what Tommy Franks was talking about, and he was regretting that.
02:23:29.000He saw it coming and said, this is going to be bad.
02:23:31.000He and Wayne Downing is almost celebrating it.
02:23:34.000Well, he was putting it in prose of, it's real sad, but this is what's going to happen and what the people want.
02:23:59.000It was only $1.2 trillion under Clinton, which is bad enough.
02:24:02.000Now it's another $1.2 trillion just while Bush has been in.
02:24:05.000This is mad, insane stealing and looting.
02:24:10.000Yeah, you know, they're just getting away with everything hand over fist here.
02:24:14.000You know, again, I just don't think the American people are going to go for this if they knew it was going to happen.
02:24:20.000And at some point, I'm hoping that a majority of Americans are going to rise up and say, no, I'm delighted that about 350 towns and cities and counties around the country, people have gotten together and passed ordinances and resolutions saying that they're not going to cooperate and their local police aren't going to cooperate with the federal government when it comes knocking with the USA Patriot Act.
02:24:43.000And so I think there's a rebellion, both on the left and on the right, against this USA Patriot Act and this invasion of our rights and liberties.
02:24:53.000Well, it's over 400 cities and 4 states now.
02:24:57.000Yeah, I think the states are Alaska, Hawaii, Vermont, and Maine.
02:25:00.000Yeah, but now I've noticed, since it went over about 200 cities, now you never see it in the news anymore.
02:25:07.000This has been a totally undercover story.
02:25:10.000I mean, this has been happening now ever since the Patriot came down.
02:25:14.000I think it started in Northampton, Massachusetts, and it's hardly getting any national coverage.
02:25:18.000Well, I was there and led the fight here in Austin and got it thrown out.
02:25:23.000But since then, I mean, I hear about towns and cities doing it and the news just, you know, national coverage doesn't pick it up.
02:25:30.000In Chicago, I think it was unanimous by the city council.
02:25:32.000I mean, it's not just places like Madison, Wisconsin and Austin, Texas.
02:25:37.000And it's a lot of conservative cities.
02:25:48.000Yeah, and the Patriot Act means the police can come into your house when you're not there, go through all your files, get on the computer, put a recording device on your computer, and then leave and never tell you about it.
02:25:57.000I mean, do people really want the police to be able to do that?
02:26:01.000It's like these big regional rubber stamp warrants.
02:26:04.000where they just sign one for a region.
02:26:07.000Of course, Patriot Act II, it's got secret arrest of citizens.
02:26:11.000You know the definition in Section 802 of the first Patriot Act is any action that endangers human life but is a violation of any federal or state law.
02:26:18.000Well, this is what Martin Luther King under the Patriot Act would be considered domestic terrorist because he was violating a law at the same time he was trying to change government policy.
02:26:27.000And that, under the Patriot Act, can be construed as intimidation.
02:26:31.000And if it's intimidation, then you're a terrorist.
02:26:34.000What about these reports now where Second Amendment demonstrators or anti-war protesters stand there with a sign on a street corner, and they're getting two years in prison?
02:26:44.000I mean, they've been ruling this, but there's no First Amendment.
02:26:48.000Well, the thing that I've been following, and I think anyone who is standing on blocking traffic and engaging in civil disobedience can be dragged through the USA Patriot Act machinery and go to jail for it, but anyone who tries to protest the President is being either put into free speech zones a mile away, and some of them are getting arrested.
02:27:08.000I know people who've been protesting the President when he's coming through towns and they have signs up and they're arrested and held overnight.
02:27:15.000Well, I mean, I've got video of it on the news during the inauguration.
02:27:18.000They kept the protesters way far away, and if anybody got through and then pulled out a little sign, they just arrested them.
02:27:25.000You know, we can't have the Emperor seeing the slaves not worship his little beady-eyed twitliness.
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02:34:14.000Going back to the editor of the Progressive Magazine, Matthew Rothschild, and before I get a bunch of calls, you heard him, no relation to the banking house Rothschild.
02:34:26.000I'm sure those calls are about to come up here.
02:34:29.000Going back to Matthew, any other key points you want to throw out there before we go to these calls?
02:34:39.000Bringing people's attention to the problems of our civil liberties after 9-11.
02:34:42.000I mean, the Bush administration has really been taking them away.
02:34:46.000There's these little acts that follow the Patriot Act.
02:34:48.000There's the 2004 Intelligence Authorization Act that allows the FBI to go to the post office and read your mail.
02:34:55.000They just passed the new Freedom Initiative for forced psychological testing.
02:34:59.000They just passed a national ID card guy in December.
02:35:02.000Yeah, I mean, they're trying to take our rights away, and people should certainly oppose the reauthorization of the Patriot Act.
02:35:08.000If you do nothing else, tell your Congress people not to go for that, because that is just allowing the police into your office, into your bedroom.
02:35:15.000Well, I wrote the first analysis of Patriot Act 1.
02:35:18.000Within days of it passing, I also wrote one of the first synopses of the Patriot 2, but in there, and I have this article still there from October 2001, folks, Where I show the subsection, it says the sunset is on little tertiary capillary sections of the act.
02:35:40.000The real tyrannical elements are not sunsetted, so that's a red herring.
02:35:45.000If you listen to what he says carefully, it's we need to reauthorize and expand.
02:36:00.000And I think people should demand that that be repealed.
02:36:03.000Because anyone who wants to protest U.S.
02:36:05.000policy by engaging in civil disobedience that goes all the way back to the Boston Tea Party, I mean, are we all going to be considered domestic terrorists now?
02:36:13.000Well, there are literally hundreds of cases.
02:36:53.000I just wanted to say keep yourself safe and keep yourself healthy because we're in for a long fight.
02:36:57.000I just wanted to lay out an invitation to Mr. Rothschild because I'm a regular KPFA listener here in the Bay Area and I vividly remember before our stage selection, the local I'll talk to Mr. Rothschild during the break and I'll say, you know, it's a Nazi death cult.
02:37:13.000and he kind of coo-poot it as a little social organization.
02:37:15.000And I wanted to invite him to prisonfinite.tv and listen to the interview from the man who wrote the book on skull and bones.
02:37:23.000Maybe he can be a little bit more informed next time the opportunity comes up.
02:37:26.000Well, I talked to Mr. Rothschild during the break, and I said, you know, it's a Nazi death cult.
02:37:31.000I mean, you really should look into two skull and bones and these Thule and Thule Society organizations because they really have more power than I think you know.
02:37:42.000Well, I mean, I just don't agree with you, Alex or Kyle, on Skull and Bones.
02:37:45.000I really don't think that Skull and Bones Society and the people who belong to it or have gone through it have anything really to do about power in America, who's got it, who's using it, and why they're using it.
02:37:57.000And I think we're missing the point when we're focusing on those kinds of things.
02:38:01.000I mean, the point is, you've got right now, you've got Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney.
02:38:25.000I'm here and I see so much crossover between good guests on supposed left programs here in the Bay Area and so much identity derived from people associating themselves as progressives or lefties.
02:38:39.000But there are good people on both sides that get caught up in this schism.
02:38:44.000I just think you have an opportunity to maybe bridge that gap a little bit.
02:38:49.000I'm glad you've been listening to all sorts of sides, because I think that's what people should do.
02:38:52.000I mean, people should get out of the custom of just listening to people that they always agree with, and you know, you're living in just a little igloo then.
02:39:00.000You might as well, you know, sample everything that's out there and come to your own conclusions.
02:40:27.000Well, I think people need to pressure their legislators and tell them if they don't stand up and stand up for the people's good, that they're going to not get their vote.
02:40:51.000time to elaborate it it was issued an hour before I'm it's incredible that that got ran through like that and then you know or just take the homeland security at church of he passed 98 to nothing I mean here was a guy what is it with Congress that's what I'm asking is are they just sitting there totally scared to death or they got I'll tell you what it is.
02:41:10.000A lot of them have got a mistress and they've got photos of that.
02:41:13.000A lot of them are put there by corporations that are paying for them to do it.
02:41:50.000I mean, literally, either you tow absolute Bush worship line, or you are gone.
02:41:57.000And I've talked to people in this industry.
02:41:59.000I mean, that is how it is unless you're on this network.
02:42:02.000Well, I can't even stand to listen to him talk or see his face anymore, so I guess I really have a hard time hearing anything he says.
02:42:08.000Well, look, Air America isn't going to help anybody because they're only giving you the left-wing view and not talking about how corrupt their party is.
02:43:18.000Well, I think you can talk to people where they are.
02:43:21.000And I think no matter where you are in the perspective of politics, whether you're libertarian, right-wing, Republican, left-wing, Democrat, wherever you identify, not many people in this country want corporations to run their lives.
02:43:33.000And not many people in this country want the police to be able to come into their home when they're not there.
02:43:38.000I mean, that's a huge violation of the Fourth Amendment.
02:43:40.000And I think once we can address people where they are and find some points of agreement and then open their eyes to what this government is doing, we can start Building a movement here that will oppose any more of this retrenchment against our rights and maybe get some of these rights back.
02:43:59.000Ninety-five percent, excuse me, ninety-four percent of Californians were against these satellite tracker boxes Schwarzenegger wants to put in the car to tax and trace.
02:44:07.000But then, you talk to liberal academics, they're all for it.
02:44:12.000So how do we, on a hundred different issues, have ninety-plus percent of people against it And it's common sense, but still the Republican and Democrat leadership is all for it.
02:44:22.000Well, I think one of the big things we need to do to change this country is get full campaign financing so that the corporations and the wealthiest people in this country aren't buying Congress.
02:44:33.000The lobbyists, you know, go in and cash in the investments.
02:44:36.000And so you get the laws the lobbyists want, the corporate interests want, and you don't get the laws that the people need.
02:44:41.000Well, you're an editor of a major, you know, established, almost hundred-year magazine, and you've been there for decades, so I want to get your take on this.
02:44:50.000We're now learning that there's all these paid-for, White House paid-for fake reporters.
02:44:54.000You know, the Armstrong Williams is the tip of the iceberg, as he said.
02:44:58.000I've been talking about this for years.
02:45:00.000We've got propaganda placement, not product, but propaganda placement where the government is paying for fake newscasts, 76 million of it, last year alone for the Medicare package.
02:45:10.000I mean, I don't think people realize just how staged it is.
02:45:21.000The government is not supposed to have people on their staffs paid to indoctrinate the American people and not telling them where this indoctrination is coming from or that it's associated with the administration.
02:45:32.000This is happening in one department after the next department.
02:45:35.000of defense department of health and human services and you get a force feeding stuff dollar throat and then they're sending a little press releases or video press releases to networks or and uh...
02:45:45.000local news stations around the country that are running them not identifying it as government propaganda now we're gonna have this pentagon channel where they're gonna spend their same hundreds of millions of dollars a year to produce high-quality news pieces that aren't even identified in their other about now are they're gonna offer that free People will save money using it, but they have to air it intact.
02:46:19.000I would call it, I think there's a book along these lines, imperial hubris.
02:46:21.000has total disdain for the people this Bush administration call Rove Dick Cheney administration they don't like democracy at all and they're taking away from us well our constitutional republic cannot survive this I would call it I think there's a book along these lines Imperial hubris I mean this is this is hubris definitely is hubris and it's it may get the better of them at some point I I mean, Bush is overreaching.
02:46:43.000He's overreaching with Social Security.
02:46:52.000The Pentagon told him we would lose unless we had 400,000 troops.
02:46:55.000They knew this, but they still just don't care, and the military is literally folding right now.
02:47:01.000Well, the brass Tommy Franks rolled over for Rumsfeld.
02:47:03.000Rumsfeld just beat him up and finally he said, okay, you know, we'll use 150,000 troops instead of 400,000 troops and look at the mess they made in Iraq.
02:47:10.000But, I mean, that's delusional, what they call, magical thinking.
02:47:16.000I mean, it seems like they've really gone off the deep end when their own tacticians and war game strategists tell them it isn't going to work and they just go do it.
02:47:23.000Well, they were eating their own propaganda, Alex.
02:47:25.000They started to believe their own stuff.
02:47:28.000They believed the lies of the Iraqi National Congress that they were paying for.
02:47:33.000They were paying this group, Ahmad Chalabi's group.
02:47:35.000To feed lies to the American people, and then the administration itself started to believe that they'd be showered with flowers and candy, and the whole country of Iraq would embrace them forever.
02:47:44.000I mean, no one who knows anything about Iraq would believe that.
02:47:48.000Well, I mean, they told White to take a walk, Secretary of the Army, when he said it was impossible.
02:47:53.000Well, that's the thing about this group.
02:48:02.000But the people there who created this problem, you know, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, and who were involved in this torture policy, especially Rumsfeld and Gonzalez, you know, they're around.
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02:52:00.000Alright, I just got out of military prison.
02:52:02.000I was stationed at Fort Drum, New York, and I got sent to Afghanistan, and I was there for a couple months, and I got a Red Cross message that my mom had cancer.
02:52:12.000So I came back on leave, And they gave me like 30 days of leave, and she was on hospice, like where they come to take care of you at home or whatever.
02:52:20.000And my leave wasn't up, and she was still alive, and I was the only one to take care of her, so I called back to try to get an extension on my leave, and they told me no, that I needed to come back, and so I stayed with her until she died, and my stepdad got sick, and I stayed with him until he died too, which was like, it was a total of 5 months that I was gone, and I got sentenced to 5 months in military prison.
02:52:43.000And I'd say like plastered me all over the newspapers around my town like...
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02:54:05.000Mr. Rothschild was talking about, and you, about skull and bones.
02:54:09.000And I feel it's very important, as I think you probably do, I've heard you talk before, and the reason for this is that these people, People wonder how it is that they can control so much and so many people, and the reason being is that a lot of these people, to my knowledge, and I've been reading this for 25 years, Uh, along with the Secret Societies, etc.
02:54:32.000A lot of them do not know what's going on at the bottom.
02:54:34.000You know, they just do what they're told because that's the way it's set up.
02:54:37.000And therefore, you can command the whole army of people.
02:54:40.000Well, I mean, look, the Lacoste and Nostra, the Italian Mafia, is a secret society.
02:55:10.000You know, I wouldn't disagree on that, but I just don't think it has anything to do with really what's happening in this country.
02:55:16.000And if there weren't any skull and bones, we'd still have the exact same problems that we're having today.
02:55:21.000Well, that may be so, but it happens to be at this time that that's the name they choose to call themselves.
02:55:25.000You can call them whatever you want, but you must admit that you mentioned Cheney, Clinton, Bush, that these people all work in conjunction with each other, and they have a name.