On this episode of the Alex Jones Show: Arnold Schwarzenegger is shrugging off a presidential bid while still pushing to get, that s right, Article 2, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution changed, a new book coming out by the Kennedy biographer talks about how this is part of their strategy to put him into the White House, a bunch of news coming out about nanotechnology, military use of nanotechnology and the coming scary war of nanobots and nanomaterials, the invisible, deadly nanobombs, and more!
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00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:22.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:44.000Welcome to another edition of the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:48.000And of course, it's already Monday, the 28th day of February, 2005.
00:00:55.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:01:00.000And you haven't been on with us in about a month.
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00:01:29.000Lord Schwarzenegger is shrugging off presidential bid while still pushing to get, that's right, Article 2, Clause 5 of the U.S.
00:01:40.000Ward Schwarzenegger is shrugging off presidential bid while still pushing to get, that's right, Article 2, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution changed.
00:01:53.000And this has been their strategy all along.
00:01:57.000A new book coming out by the Kennedy Biographer, an authorized biography, He talks about how this is part of their strategy to put him into the White House, but they know how dumb we are.
00:02:05.000Most people won't read that autobiography, so that is coming up.
00:02:11.000I wish that was the truth, because then I could spend my time on better things than focusing on Arnold Alos, I'm from Austria, and America isn't my homeland, but I want to be your Fuhrer, Schwarzenegger.
00:02:25.000A bunch of news coming out about nanotechnology, military use of nanotechnology, the coming scary war of nanobots and nanomaterials, the invisible deadly nanobombs.
00:02:38.000Yes, this is out of India Daily, and another one here out of United Press International, Nanoworld, edible nanotech on the horizon.
00:02:50.000And this out of United Press International.
00:03:15.000More on the expansion of the national ID card.
00:03:19.000They have introduced, of course, a second national ID card bill, one passed in December of last year, three months ago.
00:03:27.000They've now introduced a bill that passed the House a couple weeks ago that will radically expand it, giving us a Pan-American ID card, giving the government unlimited terrorism powers, it even has Patriot 2 type provisions in it.
00:03:41.000Ron Paul has been warning the public about this strenuously.
00:03:44.000Well now they've got it in the Senate and the headline is, diverse groups fear driver's license bills.
00:03:52.000So we'll cover that first when we get back this from the Associated Press.
00:04:00.000And I also want to get into the situation taking place In Iraq, there have been more bombings over the weekend, more troops being killed.
00:04:12.000It's just getting worse and worse and worse.
00:04:14.000But the people in the ivory towers running things just say, hey, we're winning.
00:05:17.000The film documents dozens of confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism worldwide.
00:05:22.000We rip the sinister Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart, piece by piece, and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty.
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00:09:10.000Diverse groups fear driver's license bill.
00:10:02.000This new one, and we've read the bill on air, we've had Ron Paul's office on, we've read all the news reports on it, we've got the bill posted.
00:10:12.000It creates a Pan-American Union ID card.
00:10:15.000It's got weird language about the White House being able to suspend any law selectively that they don't like and says they're above the law.
00:10:22.000It's like Alberto Gonzales wrote it or something.
00:10:26.000And it actually says that all the states will have to accept the consular matricula card from all the illegal aliens from 30 plus countries.
00:10:35.000So it actually makes it easier for the illegal aliens, and that's why Ron Paul, congressman, wrote the article, the National ID Card Trojan Horse.
00:10:46.000So the average person reading this article in the Associated Press will go, oh, well, what they're doing here is Protecting us from terror.
00:10:58.000But it does have to deal with every gun purchase being tracked, that is true, being registered, and a lot more.
00:11:04.000Conservatives, it continues, civil libertarians, gun owners, and others share such concerns about a White House-passed bill that broadly rewrites the rules for licenses and is portrayed as an anti-terrorism tool.
00:11:19.000They fear the licenses, like social security numbers, could be used for purposes well beyond their original intent.
00:11:24.000What do you think the White House and their private companies, like ChoicePoint, are already doing?
00:11:58.000They have said that the same system will be used for getting a license which is federally standardized and controlled.
00:12:07.000These opponents say the measure passed by 261-161 vote last month and supported by the White House Even could make it possible for the government to monitor people's movements in the country through a chip in the license.
00:12:24.000And then now Visa has announced in the next two years they're going to phase out all their cards where they all have a chip in them and you'll no longer swipe them.
00:12:35.000No, now it'll just read your card They've already been putting these in Easy Passes and in transponders and in your car and you know in the Easy Pass at Exxon that you wave in front of the gas pump.
00:12:48.000Now they get to read and scan you and then all the goods that you're buying at Walmart or whatever store you're shopping at, they'll all have RFID in them that they've already announced.
00:12:59.000You quote, if you're a supplier to us, you're going to have to put it in or we're not going to buy from you.
00:13:04.000And then as you go around the store, smart shelves read what you're putting in and then it tabulates it and attaches it to your name when you go up and pay.
00:13:11.000And then some say, well, what do I have to hide?
00:13:16.000If I don't have anything to hide, I shouldn't worry about this.
00:13:33.000And the government's making everything it does secret, while taking all of our freedoms.
00:13:40.000Supporters of this don't seem to have the ability to look beyond how the system they are putting in place can change.
00:13:46.000They can see how it can metamorphosis into a national ID card, said Steve Lilenthal, director of the Free Congress Foundation Center for Privacy and Technology.
00:13:58.000The House passed the legislation February 10th.
00:14:00.000Supporters promote the bill, which the Senate has yet to consider as yet a way to fight terrorism.
00:14:08.000Under the measure, states must verify they are giving licenses to U.S.
00:14:12.000citizens and legal residents if they fail to do so, the federal officers Cannot accept licenses from recipients of those states as proof of identity to get on an airplane or into a federal building, for example.
00:14:24.000Look, Texas in 93 under Bill Clinton started face scanning, digital photo, and thumb printing biometrically.
00:14:31.000Last time I checked, 48 states already had this in place.
00:14:36.000Now they've just made it the law last year, and they're beefing it up and expanding it this year.
00:14:44.000Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Springfield, Virginia-based Gun Owners of America, says the bill hands an open-ended blank check to the government to collect information about people.
00:15:40.000First of all, the other day on LetsRoll911.org, I'm sure you've heard of it, I believe you've had an interview with the webmaster, Phil Jahan, before?
00:15:54.000We had these ads running on there from Google, and Google sent Phil an email saying that the content on the website is too sensitive, so they're cutting off the ads.
00:16:08.000And then they got into this argument and that shows that Google is on the side of covering up 9-11.
00:16:17.000That they cut off the revenue for Let's Roll.
00:16:24.000And next, another thing is, for anybody who likes rap out there, there's a really good artist who spreads the truth of 9-11 in many of his songs.
00:16:37.000His name is Immortal Technique, so if anybody out there likes rap or has any friends that like rap, introduce them to Immortal Technique.
00:16:44.000He's a very good rapper and he has a lot of good messages in his songs.
00:17:39.000Here's one out of about probably 300-400 articles we've posted in the last few years about control.
00:17:46.000Back in July of 2000, the United Nations was having a UNIDIR.
00:17:52.000That's their division for arms control, small arms control.
00:17:56.000They had a gun control summit in New York.
00:17:59.000And the UNIDIR press release, it was on the UN website that we have linked on InfoWars.com, saved on the site, somewhere in that labyrinth of archives, but just type UNIDIR into the search engine on InfoWars, it should come up, and it said that civilian ownership of firearms threatens a legitimate power monopoly of the state.
00:18:23.000Well, what's a power monopoly of the state?
00:18:25.000That's when the state has the total power.
00:18:28.000A monopoly of power, that's called a dictatorship.
00:18:39.000I hate to plug this guy's book, but in the Grand Chess Board, written by Brzezinski, just type Grand Chess Board quotes Brzezinski into a search engine and you'll find the quotes without having to buy the book.
00:18:52.000And in his book he says, back in 97, we need Pearl Harbor type terror attacks.
00:18:59.000Those would be helpful to get a war going, to get control of the slaves.
00:19:04.000And we're called the slaves within the empire?
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00:24:38.000Okay, um, my first question is about Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:24:41.000I was watching, I got my friends, they like NASCAR and family.
00:24:45.000And we was watching about Arnold Schwarzenegger and everyone in his whole house, except me, because I'm against this stuff, they all cheered.
00:24:53.000They cheered because he's flown the green flag and he said NASCAR is better and awesome.
00:25:00.000And they asked him, where would you be with the NASCAR?
00:25:02.000And he said, oh, I would be back in my old place where I used to hang out with all my friends.
00:25:15.000They were talking to Arnold at a NASCAR event?
00:25:18.000Yes, this was on TV, so you probably don't know what I'm talking about, but it was in California, so this whole thing was Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:25:42.000They had like big jumbotrons with him on it, or what?
00:25:44.000No, they had like, uh, you know, big ol' cymbals.
00:25:48.000And then on the front of the whole cymbal they had in the race was a symbol of a pyramid.
00:25:54.000And my mom says it might be something for autism, because they did have something like that, but... But I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm trying to understand, but, but Arnold was there officiating?
00:27:06.000And I was going to ask you another question right quick.
00:27:10.000You know on the website, your Infowars website, I would look on it every day.
00:27:13.000This is about as much as CNN, Fox News, the bad guys.
00:27:17.000We looked on the website and I saw something about Uncle Bush.
00:27:23.000Yeah, well there's the former president's brother who's made just tens of millions of dollars himself.
00:27:29.000uh... war profiteering and and and basically in the past it's been illegal it still is but they just ignore the law You know, their friends and family and themselves are not supposed to make money off the contracts that they get passed through Congress.
00:27:46.000Or that they order the Pentagon to give.
00:27:50.000And it's come out that Cheney actually runs the contracting program out of the Vice President's office.
00:27:56.000I mean, it's the worst war profiteering we've ever seen.
00:29:09.000They could put biological weapons on cash!
00:29:13.000And again, it's about bringing total control, because when it's digital, it can all be tracked and traced, and then if you're not a good globalist, they can simply turn your ID card off, and then you can't buy or sell, and you're in deep trouble.
00:29:37.000Can you give four or five other books that you feel give a careful and comprehensive assessment and analysis of the new world order and its real goals and objectives?
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00:33:50.000I'm as bad as Jesse Jackson now in inventing new words.
00:33:55.000But we were talking to Patrick in Maryland and he was talking about my book, 9-11, Descent into Tyranny.
00:34:00.000Not to be confused with 9-11 the film, The Road to Tyranny.
00:34:05.000And you were asking about other books.
00:34:07.000Gee, Patrick, there's so many other great books exposing the Global Crime Syndicate, the New World Order.
00:34:15.000Dr. Dennis Cuddy's books are excellent because they're mainly documents.
00:34:19.000Charlotte Isserby's book, Deliberate Dumbing Down, about the Department of Education's admitted plan to dumb down our children.
00:34:24.000I mean, she was the number two person at the Department of Education during the Reagan Administration.
00:34:29.000There are just hundreds of books and there's so many different subjects they cover that I really couldn't do justice to all of them, but I personally, even though I've written a book, and of course Paul Watson's book that I published, Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terror, and the New World Order, if we don't expose that governments carry out terror attacks against themselves and their own populations to scare their people into submission, we're really going to lose this fight.
00:34:56.000So obviously my book, Paul Watson's book, there's a lot of other great books out there, but I personally like videos even better.
00:35:03.000You can show people all the documents and the video clips, While at the same time most people don't read anymore and so they'll watch a video.
00:35:13.000Does that answer your question, Patrick?
00:35:26.000I was driving in my car listening to network radio news and heard a top Russian reporter ask George Bush, the President, Well, you're talking about Putin taking everybody's freedoms and crackdowns on liberties.
00:35:40.000What about America with the Patriot Act and all the things that are happening there?
00:35:44.000And Bush said, well, that's just ridiculous.
00:35:47.000In America, we have oversight of the people.
00:35:50.000If they get up in arms, we have to answer to them.
00:35:53.000We have a changing Constitution, which isn't true, by the way.
00:37:00.000Anti-war protesters have gotten two years in jail for standing with a sign on a street corner that says, no blood for oil in an unauthorized protest on a street corner next to 500 Bush supporters.
00:38:39.000I still haven't had time To listen to the NPR show on the media, which airs throughout the weekend on like 700 radio stations or something ridiculous.
00:38:50.000I haven't had time to listen to it myself.
00:38:52.000They interviewed me about the Popular Mechanics hit piece.
00:40:39.000I've had the great folks on from that site, and I encourage everybody to look at all the possibilities, but the Pentagon not being hit by a plane, stuff like that, belly bombs, we have talked about it, lasers, all that.
00:40:54.000I just don't get into it and really focus on it.
00:40:57.000People can talk about it all they want.
00:40:59.000I was just wondering, is there a way that they can check Track that trajectory from where the laser was coming up from, perhaps.
00:41:05.000Well, I mean, again, sir, I just really don't have any comments on it.
00:41:08.000Okay, but... What I do have comments on is public officials, Mayor Willie Brown, John Ashcroft, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Source, AP, Times of London, San Francisco Chronicle, MSNBC, being warned not to flood in New York the night before 9-11.
00:41:24.000What I do know is CIA insider trading, leading back to Buzzy Kromgaard, who is now in the Associated Press saying, leave Bin Laden alone.
00:41:34.000What I do know is, is that NORAD stood down, they were running drills, applying hijack jets to the World Trade Center and Pentagon that morning, and the buildings did have bombs in it.
00:41:43.000And all of that cannot be denied, and is absolutely provable and demonstrable.
00:41:48.000Larry Silverstein says they blew up Building 7, and that's the stuff I focus on.
00:41:58.000Frankly, I think he's a total idiot, to tell you the truth.
00:42:00.000I mean, for all we know, he could have been greased in, in every facet of his life, from all the way from high school to getting into Yale and to do... I mean, just because we're... Well, it's not for all we know... I mean, people that come out... Sir, it's not... Sir, it's not all we know.
00:42:15.000They admit that anybody else would have flunked out of Yale.
00:44:20.000And about half the callers disagreed with me.
00:44:23.000And I would go to the next call, they'd disagree with me, go to the next call, they'd disagree with me, go to the next call, they'd agree with me.
00:44:29.000Today, on my own broadcast, on dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of AM and FM stations, on shortwave, the internet, satellite, I give the number out.
00:44:58.000People call in and say, you're not hardcore enough because this is about the only disagreement we get.
00:45:04.000You're not hardcore enough because you don't think Jews run the New World Order, or you're not hardcore enough because you don't think the Catholics run the New World Order, or you're not hardcore enough because, you know, you don't believe exactly as I believe, or you don't believe in a national sales tax, or, you know, something like that.
00:45:21.000Or you don't want to talk about lasers being fired at the Pentagon, or the Capitol, or at the Towers, or whatever.
00:45:31.000Again, I believe the New World Order is run by evil, corrupt people, regardless of what group they claim they're with.
00:45:38.000Are evil people in control of almost every major group in the world?
00:45:43.000They get the positions of power to control the compartmentalized structures, the pyramidal power systems, you know, that hierarchical system.
00:45:52.000But it's not just my broadcast, folks.
00:46:10.000Big, you know, second biggest radio show in the world.
00:46:14.000It could be a liberal show, a conservative show, a Christian conservative neocon program where the host is attacking me, where they're not real Christians.
00:46:24.000And almost, I mean, it's got to be 30 to 1.
00:46:27.000I've sat there This is such good news.
00:46:30.000I've sat there doing two hour radio interviews, you know, on AM stations covering, you know, ten states.
00:46:36.000For two hours, and the host takes thirty phone calls.
00:46:41.000And the host is attacking me, you know, on some of these other talk shows.
00:46:46.000Four long shows, they're not attacking me like George Norrie doing a great job.
00:46:49.000And I'm sitting there, but on big mainstream shows, I'm sitting there doing the interview, and the host is attacking me on some of these, and they start freaking out.
00:47:02.000Why are you all agreeing with this kook?
00:47:03.000And they'll just end up hanging up on me.
00:47:05.000And I'll sit there, you know how you'll go one, two, three, four, you know, four little ones, and then you'll, for number five, you'll draw a diagonal line through it.
00:47:15.000And I'll sit there, all the callers that agree with me, it'll be like 29, 30 of those with one caller who disagrees with me.
00:47:35.000I mean, I'll go on the radio in England, in Germany, in Australia, in Hungary, and none of the callers call in disagreeing with me.
00:47:44.000And almost every caller that does call in disagreeing with me will say, I want to kill you, I want to get you in a jail cell and urinate on you, we're going to put you in a camp, I'm glad there's camps, we've gone and gone to the archives of different shows before and actually grabbed these callers out of it and posted it on the website.
00:48:32.000I still get the death threats, and still get the mean emails, and stuff like that, and I still have the mainstream media attacking me like never before.
00:48:40.000I mean, I'm getting attacked on a weekly basis by national publications.
00:48:58.000We make mistakes sometimes, not often, and when we do, we point them out, because we're about credibility.
00:49:04.000We want you to check out what we say, because when you find out it's real for yourself and tangible, we believe you'll take action and save this country.
00:49:10.000I'm doing what I do because the globalists are criminals, folks, and none of us are safe while they're in power, whether it's John Kerry or George Bush, or Hillary Clinton, who Bill Clinton's now out stumping for for El Presidente.
00:49:51.000You quote a couple of times About a history channel program that reveals, I guess, Roosevelt's prior knowledge to the attack on Pearl Harbor.
00:50:06.000And I was wondering if... Yeah, I think it's called Day of Deceit.
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00:57:26.000Jeff in Ohio, finish up what you were saying.
00:57:30.000I thought one of the most compelling parts of 9-11 was the John O'Neill story.
00:57:34.000And, uh, was it Greg Powell's that he released W1999-2?
00:57:38.000Is that the information that you dispensed?
00:57:41.000Yeah, Powell's hasn't given out his sources publicly, but, uh, yeah.
00:57:46.000Now, is there any, uh, farther peeks into that document than the few JPEGs that have been available on the internet?
00:57:51.000Like, is there... No, the FBI ordered the BBC not to release any more of it.
00:58:01.000Well, a month before he died, he said, he told British newspapers, I quit because they're going to let bin Laden attack New York as a pretext to get oil.
00:58:10.000Look, he left the FBI, said the government's going to be involved in something, went to New York to try to protect it, and then died in it supposedly on 9-11.
00:59:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000Alright, hour number two, my friends, on this live Monday edition, the 28th day of February 2005.
00:59:24.000And riding shotgun with us now is Paul Joseph Watson, a great political mind, my webmaster.
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00:59:48.000And, Paul, we haven't had you on in about a month.
00:59:50.000There's a whole plethora of news we're going to be covering today.
00:59:53.000And then, of course, we're going to go to Scott and Wyatt and Cheryl and Mike and many others that are holding early in this hour wide open phones today.
01:00:02.000But, Paul, long time no talk on the air, my friend.
01:00:05.000Well, now it's been over a month, so it's good to be back.
01:00:09.000Good to have you on board with us today.
01:00:17.000A subject that you touch on very often is the indoctrination of torture.
01:00:23.000And if you thought 24 and Threat Matrix were bad, then just wait until you hear the kind of television programs they've got running in Iraq.
01:00:36.000Freedom of the Press, in light of the Gannon scandal, which has basically received no mainstream media attention, Um, they're trying to softball us with issues to do with, uh, you know, the Bush tapes.
01:00:50.000Did he smoke marijuana or not is the side issue.
01:00:53.000Nobody's talking about the real scandal, which is the Gannon, um, fake White House press credential situation.
01:01:02.000More examples of government-sponsored terror, this time in Russia, with the Russian military again attempting to blow up apartment buildings right at the same time that Russia's being attacked for clamping down on people's rights.
01:01:17.000So it's a very convenient time for them to attempt to do that sort of thing.
01:01:22.000And they were caught in 1999 doing this?
01:01:27.000They were caught in 1999 and into 2000 and this story which came out a few days ago again received no press attention whatsoever in the US.
01:01:41.000A Russian interior ministry soldier being caught by the police planting explosives next to an apartment building in central Russia.
01:01:50.000And Putin's basically sticking with the same tactics despite being caught on numerous occasions in the past.
01:01:56.000And for those who don't know... Well, I tell you, the Russians have got good police, man.
01:02:00.000They keep catching FSB and Russian secret police planting bombs.
01:02:08.000Putin's got a problem and his own local police forces keep busting him.
01:02:14.000Well yeah, you'd think they'd change tactics because with the Ryazan situation back in 99 they were proven to be Putin's own FSB.
01:02:24.000Now for those that don't know, it's now come out from all the evidence that the school shooting was a government op.
01:02:30.000Well yeah, now the court cases have got high-ranking Russian military officers which are now being charged with helping the terrorists to carry out the siege with the apartment bombings.
01:02:43.000The explosives were tracked back to the FSB.
01:02:46.000It was first announced as an exercise, but after the detonator and the explosives were analyzed and found to be real, the government changed the story.
01:02:54.000I'll tell you what, let's... some stations carry news now.
01:02:57.000Let's go to break and slowly go over Russia first.
01:03:01.000Because, you know, Bush is over there right now, or was over there, and this is all important.
01:03:04.000And then let's get into the fake reporters and just all the other news you just mentioned, Paul.
01:03:10.000Just in the next 30 seconds though, what's some of the other news you want to cover?
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01:07:06.000Alright, a great political mind, my good buddy, Paul Joseph Watson joins us from the United Kingdom.
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01:07:24.000But we're going to talk about Russia carrying out terror attacks to blame it on its population.
01:07:28.000We're going to talk about fake reporters in the White House, the latest Iraq news, the vicious torture TV shows, these reality shows, and then just the mass propaganda going on, and of course your calls.
01:07:40.000But first off, Paul, I've been so busy finishing Martial Law.
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01:08:35.000And of course, during the break, I was just talking to you, I haven't heard it, and I said, let me guess, out of 30 plus minutes of them interviewing me, I bet they have the part where I go, yeah, there's wild theories out there, like holograms flew into the buildings, but, you know, I think that's put out basically as disinfo, and you go, oh yeah, that was in there.
01:08:52.000So, anything I said, and it was obviously heavily edited, to make me sound kooky, I guess, was put in there.
01:08:59.000I haven't heard it yet, and we're going to link to it on PrisonPlanet.com, but you've heard it, Paul.
01:09:07.000Well, I mean, compared to some of the other programs that I've heard, it was fairly balanced.
01:09:13.000But what you have to remember is that before your interview, not only did they have the Popular Mechanics editor on, before him, They had a, I think, what you would term a social historian on, in a similar vein to the guy who was attacking you on C-SPAN.
01:09:32.000Explaining how we use, let me guess, conspiracy theories to explain a complex, bizarre world?
01:09:38.000We're afraid, so we do this to give order to the world?
01:09:43.000Yeah, how people need conspiracy theories to get by on a day-to-day basis because the world's so unstable.
01:09:50.000He was on even before the Popular Mechanics Guide.
01:09:53.000As I said to you, I haven't listened to either of the other two, but that's the description.
01:10:13.000Six minutes long, the clip's six minutes long, but the last two minutes is them closing out the show.
01:10:19.000So, um, you know, if you take out the interviewer speaking, who was basically acting as the mouthpiece for the, um, Popular Mechanics editor, then, you know, you're probably running at about two minutes if you take away, you know, everything that she said.
01:11:22.000Oh, she mentioned we did send it to her?
01:11:25.000No, she didn't mention that we'd sent it to her, but I think you briefly talked about it, but it was only, you know, 10-15 seconds, if that.
01:11:45.000So, I guess the San Francisco Chronicle and MSNBC is a conspiracy theory, Paul.
01:11:50.000Well, yeah, and it's the old thing, The major plank of her argument, which is basically the popular mechanics argument, was that these stories that came out in the days immediately following 9-11 were later retracted and proven to be false, when that's not the case at all.
01:12:08.000I mean, even a year after the attack, the FBI in Insight Magazine still admitted to the fact that they hadn't proven that the 19 hijackers they named You know, the day after the attack, were those areas... Well, we've been saying since day one they had specific memos warning them of the plans to fly planes into buildings because we have the mainstream news articles from before it.
01:12:30.000And everything we've said about them lying has come out.
01:12:33.000I mean, their story is the one that's been disproven.
01:12:54.000Boy, they're powerful from that cave, Paul.
01:12:57.000Well, I mean, the thing you have to remember is that anyone who has independently looked into 9-11, anyone who has typed it into Google, you know, the first 20 hits they'll get are, you know, our kind of information, the truth, which links to mainstream information.
01:13:14.000I don't think it will have the kind of impact that a lot of people fear it will have, because the people who are reading that completely, you know, Without any input from the opposing side already believe in it anyway, so they're preaching to the choir.
01:13:29.000Now that's what I said in closing, and I begged her to put that in the piece.
01:13:33.000Did it happen where I go, look, 90% of Americans believe the government killed Kennedy.
01:14:48.000But, you know, via sloppy research, they didn't do that.
01:14:51.000And their tone from the very start was that this was going to be a hit piece, and it was long in the making, and that's exactly what it was.
01:14:58.000But on the phone with them, they said, oh, Mr. Jones, it's not a hit piece.
01:15:01.000I called and talked to the assistant editor.
01:15:03.000He goes, oh no sir, this is just, we're just wanting to look at these theories and where they came from.
01:15:12.000Well, no, and I mentioned the social historian, of course, the first thing that they threw in there, at least on the synopsis, was the UFO thing.
01:15:21.000So they couch it in that from the very start, even before the popular mechanics guy goes on.
01:15:25.000And most people have made their minds up.
01:15:52.000It said, Mr. Jones believes the government did it.
01:15:54.000You know, and I laid out in the article, public officials were warned not to fly.
01:15:58.000You know, NORAD stood down, and boy, I'm sure vindicated.
01:16:03.000But now they're intensifying the campaign because they're losing.
01:16:07.000Well, it's clear that they're making a bigger effort.
01:16:11.000I remember an ABC News article in early 2002 which passed the whole thing off as, you know, some people actually believe that aliens carried out the World Trade Center attack, so by that benchmark they weren't even trying.
01:16:25.000Now they're actually starting to look at the issues, but by a Misrepresentation, not focusing on what we're actually saying.
01:16:35.000They're having to work harder, but it's still not having as big an effect as they would expect it to.
01:16:41.000But they're definitely making a more concerted effort than they did in the six months after the attack.
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01:23:42.000Go over the latest developments for us.
01:23:44.000Right, this is an article in Moss News, which is a website out of Russia.
01:23:49.000A member of the Russian Interior Ministry, a soldier, Was caught by the police planting explosives next to an apartment building block in central Russia.
01:24:02.000And it mirrors exactly what happened in 99, where they were caught planting the explosives, they were allowed to escape.
01:24:12.000The first call they made was to an internal FSB office.
01:24:17.000The bombing was first announced as an exercise, but after the detonator and the explosives were analyzed and found to be real, the story was changed.
01:24:26.000And they'd been caught in the act again.
01:24:29.000Now, this was Moscow police that had already blown up three apartment buildings.
01:24:34.000Moscow police caught them doing it to a fourth.
01:24:47.000Yeah, and after they got caught doing it, the apartment bombings strangely ended, at least until now, or the attempts on them.
01:24:55.000So, I mean, this comes in the face of all these questions about Russia's clampdown on human rights, press, freedoms.
01:25:02.000Wouldn't it have been an ideal moment to stage a convenient terrorist attack and allow Putin to grandstand with the justification that his clampdown was necessary to fight the terrorists?
01:26:08.000Now, we clearly laid that out earlier.
01:26:10.000Now this has all come out in mainstream news, Paul.
01:26:13.000Yeah, and then it came out that he was tortured to confess into being involved in the siege on the school.
01:26:20.000Immediately after, they passed what they had planned before, which was the abolition of voting rights for regional governors.
01:26:32.000So that federalized the Russian government even more and created a police state in Russia so people couldn't vote for their representatives.
01:26:40.000Regional governors will keep the local systems in line!
01:26:43.000Yes, I mean, it's the same as taking away state rights in America to federalize the US.
01:27:08.000In fact, a Russian reporter said that to Bush when he was in Russia.
01:27:11.000And Bush said, oh well, in America we have checks and balances and the American people are able to, you know, basically officiate over all this.
01:27:19.000And we have a living, breathing Constitution, Paul.
01:27:22.000Yeah, and then you've got people like James Woolsey calling Russia fascist, which is like Stalin criticising Hitler for his stance on human rights.
01:27:32.000And, you know, yes, it's true that in Russia there's no freedom of the press.
01:27:36.000Every other week we hear stories about how journalists are intimidated into silence or gunned down on the street if they write articles critical of the government.
01:27:45.000Putin himself came back and said, you know, the U.S.
01:27:48.000is hardly the shining example of freedom of speech.
01:27:52.000But you see, he cited the wrong example.
01:27:54.000The Dan Rather, CBS, Bush National Guard story, which was a deliberate side issue, a distraction.
01:28:01.000Has Karl Rove written all over it, just like these new tapes?
01:28:05.000Oh, I smoke marijuana and I don't want to be mean to the gay people.
01:28:09.000All this comes out to cover up for the fake reporter story, and then on the fake reporter story they focus in on should he get in trouble for falsifying his name.
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01:34:28.000Well, obviously, to me, the way it came across is they have to address, you know, the conspiracy
01:34:36.000uh... side of it though but they don't they definitely don't want to delve into the real issues uh... only because they just want to you know hit it briefly say this is what these nuts are saying and you know of course they give the other guy uh... you know they give him all the time in the world to develop his concepts and ideas on it and which is basically... Do they let the editor of popular propaganda
01:35:04.000Yeah, they did to a certain degree, much more than they let you.
01:35:14.000Just enough to put out his theories, and then that was basically it.
01:35:21.000I got the impression that it was, OK, look, there's such a groundswell of interest in the people going against the official 9-11 story that Let's just throw this in real quick, debunk it, and then move on.
01:35:35.000And, you know, they didn't want to keep it in people's attention too much.
01:35:38.000You know, I think all they're doing is throwing fuel on the fire.
01:35:42.000It's just going to make people get more interested and find out the truth for themselves.
01:35:50.000And because there's a lot of people that, you know, I've discussed it with that they absolutely don't have answers for, but then you go into the bigger Uh, you know, thing of, are they willing to admit that, you know, the certain factions of the government could actually do this, you know?
01:36:08.000And so I think that's the bigger leap for people is to realize, you know, not necessarily... And you know why?
01:36:13.000Because the average person is a good person, isn't, you know, just out of control, evil, isn't scheming, doesn't understand world history, politics, how elites operate, and so they judge the world through their eyes, according to their mindset.
01:37:45.000Another thing, Alex, is something that I recently came across that you guys may be aware of, is this Operation Gladio Supposedly, there's a little blurb about it, I read an article on it, a decades-long covert campaign of terrorism and deceit directed by the intelligence services of the West against their own population.
01:38:09.000Hundreds of innocent people were killed or maimed in terrorist attacks on train stations, supermarkets, cafes, and offices, which were then blamed on, quote, leftist subversives or other political opponents.
01:38:22.000Anyway, Yeah, it goes on to say that this was first revealed by Italian Prime Minister Giulio Andreotti.
01:38:32.000Yeah, who was the head of intelligence at the time.
01:38:45.000I mean, look, I was listening to NPR Sitting in the parking lot of the Home Depot one night for like 20 minutes, I couldn't believe it was so riveting.
01:38:53.000This show, and I forget the name of it, I wrote a note, I meant to get them on and commend them.
01:39:31.000Yeah, and I mean, and, and they go on to mention, uh, this, uh, where they get some of this stuff from, from, uh, FM Manual 31, 30, 3031B.
01:39:41.000Which I did a little research and came up with the actual manual, but evidently this was, 31B was a supplement to Field Manual 3031, which is, you know, just basic general intelligence, counter-insurgency, army intelligence stuff.
01:39:56.000But anyway, it goes into it, and it specifically mentions how they operate, and it says, not for, you know, this is supposed to remain secret,
01:40:07.000But in one part of it, it's like under the Agents on Special Operations, it says, there may be times when host country governments show passivity or indecision in face of, quote, communist or communist-inspired subversion, you know, today would be terrorism, and react with inadequate vigor to intelligence estimates transmitted by U.S.
01:40:29.000Such situations are particularly likely to arise when insurgency seeks to achieve tactical advantage by temporarily refraining from violence, thus lulling host country authorities into a state of false security.
01:40:47.000Army intelligence must have the means of launching special operations which will convince host country ...government and public opinion of the reality of the insurgent danger and the necessity... Let me stop you.
01:41:00.000I'm not familiar with that particular manual.
01:41:02.000I am familiar with Gladio and that's admitted.
01:41:12.000In fact, that's something we've posted before, but we should build a site on that and post some of the other examples of government Sponsor Terrorism, thanks for the call.
01:41:21.000Look, we have Operation Northwoods, which is more of the same.
01:41:26.000Government, we'll bomb D.C., we'll commit sniper attacks in D.C.
01:41:30.000and Miami, we'll attack the Marine Corps base at Guantanamo using Cuban Americans dressed up like Cubans, we'll kill Marines, we'll blame it on foreign enemies, we'll hijack jets by remote control and crash them, we'll blame it on enemies, I mean, this is what they do.
01:41:50.000And see, these manuals, they told these Cold War warriors, a lot of them patriots, who believed they were doing well, men, we're going to kill some innocent people, just like in Graham Greene's The Quiet American, we're going to kill some innocent people, but it's going to be, you know, to fight the evil communists, because they're even worse, and if we don't do this, they're going to win.
01:42:09.000And then we extrapolate out to 2001, Paul.
01:42:13.000Well yeah, and the thing with Operation Gladio is that at the time, in the 70s, most people thought that it was being solely directed by the Italian and Spanish governments.
01:42:24.000But then later on in the 80s, people put FOIA requests through Freedom of Information Act.
01:42:31.000And it came back that it was a project handed down by the CIA and it was linked to the P2 organization which also had close ties to the CIA.
01:42:41.000So it was the CIA were the umbrella organization that directed that policy to then demonize the left-wing to bolster a right-wing government which is what they wanted in Europe at that time.
01:42:54.000So again it goes back to the same people who brought you things like Operation Northwood.
01:42:58.000But, I mean, all this has come out on the National Security Archive website.
01:43:02.000I mean, just type in Operation Gladio CIA, and all those hits will come back and prove that it was a directed operation based on their handbook.
01:43:21.000I've been waiting for about an hour, so give me a couple of minutes.
01:43:24.000First, on the PBS documentary on Frontline with John O'Neill, The Man Who Knew Too Much, is what it was called.
01:43:32.000Excellent video, which you can read between the lines and you'll know what happened.
01:43:37.000Secondly, during the 9-11 Commission hearings, they had interviewed, the only time I had really listened to them, they had interviewed on radio driving, they had interviewed the head of the Port Authority Police about 9-11.
01:43:55.000He said, I can't remember his name, but he stated that when Silverstein took over the building, the Port Authority Police were moved out from security.
01:44:09.000He established his own security agency.
01:44:12.000Within the World Trade Center Towers, and they had occupied floors 20 and 40.
01:44:33.000Okay, I got something that I've never heard anyone discuss.
01:44:36.000I know you don't like to talk about things, but you can.
01:44:39.000I think I saw it on your video, 9-1-1, but I can't remember, but I did see it on the original footage from 9-11 off TV.
01:44:49.000When the Bode brothers are doing the film, of course that was on film and that was shown later, when the Bode brothers are on the street in New York doing the fire department story, Uh, they caught the first plane, which was amazing how they did that.
01:45:22.000Then when they pulled back, they pulled the camera angle back to them being on the street, and you can still see the building in the background.
01:45:30.000If you look very closely, you may have edited this out many times, there is a fighter jet that comes from your left-hand screen off top, goes behind the smoke and shoots out.
01:45:39.000On the right-hand side of the building.
01:45:45.000I've never heard anyone talk about this.
01:45:48.000What this does, backs up the story that the CIA had to use a cover because if they were running a drill that day, they needed a jet in the sky.
01:46:25.000It could be that reaction from the first.
01:46:27.000It could be anything in the sky at that point.
01:46:30.000But secondly, on your, I believe it was Matrix of Evil tape, Now, anybody who has your tape can see this.
01:46:41.000When Cynthia McKinney is speaking, she talks about John Kennedy and there's a little bit of film clip of John Kennedy's car coming down in Dilley Plaza that's put into the film.
01:46:53.000If you look at it really closely and still frame it, you will see, and this is the truth, you will see the driver turn around and it looks as though he takes his left arm Puts it over his right shoulder, looking at Kennedy, pulls the trigger, and his head explodes.
01:47:24.000I'm not going to keep you long, but I do want to ask you what you know about Check 21.
01:47:31.000It's a new federal regulation that will affect all financial institutions as of October 28, 2004.
01:47:39.000Well, there's all sorts of new regulations under the Patriot Act, but that specific term, can you elaborate?
01:47:50.000Well, with the check clearing for the 21st Century Act, Check 21... You're talking about them sending you little duplicate copies, not the original checks?
01:48:01.000Well, they haven't done that for a long time, but what is happening is the federal government created Check 21 under the Patriot Act 2 since September 11, 2001.
01:48:15.000What is happening is, as a method of speeding up the nation's payment system, The legislation requires all parties, banks, government agencies, retail and business customers... Yeah, the money is instantly taken out of your checking account.
01:48:28.000Right, and then what happens is, so all of us who know that we have money in our checking account, if it's really not there, they will say, even though it's there, they'll say it's not there, and they will be sending you a notice in the mail saying, That you have an overdraft or non-sufficient funds in your bank.
01:48:50.000When it is there, this is how they will charge you $30.
01:48:52.000Well, to explain this, you put your money in the bank for the deposit.
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01:53:33.000And now we've got this reporter, why, with a fake name in there working for a neocon outfit funded by the federal government, but the media doesn't focus in.
01:53:42.000It focuses in on who are real journalists, or what does this mean, or should he get in trouble for giving a false name?
01:54:13.000I mean, we had the article six months ago where they brought the male porn stars into Bohemian Grove to, quote, service them, according to the New York Post.
01:54:23.000Apparently there's a new link which Skolnick, Sherman Skolnick, is reporting Whereby, um, Jeff Gannon, or Jim Gucker, whichever, you know, whichever one you want, um, has links to the Finders murders.
01:54:42.000Now, I haven't researched that in any kind of depth, so I've got no knowledge on it.
01:54:46.000But, um, he's reporting that this, um, Jeff Gannon character was, um, one of those individuals who was involved in that case, so it seems that they've used him in the past for other purposes, and now, um... But regardless, they admit he's a fake reporter, and the news is perseverating on the, you know, repeating over and over again, uh, just about, well, should he get in trouble for giving a fake name?
01:55:14.000Well, yeah, and, um, The mainstream media took the enlightened decision that, you know, you would care more about the Oscars and the Michael Jackson trial.
01:55:24.000But don't worry, because, you know, they've unearthed the Bush tapes, which give us the shocking revelation that Bush once smoked pot.
01:55:32.000So we really can trust them to be the ever-watchful guardians of government.
01:55:37.000So it's the same process as we saw during the Clinton years.
01:55:41.000You know, there's an 18-wheeler steaming towards us from behind, but they're insisting on telling us to watch the front where, you know, a bicycle is about to run over our toes.
01:55:52.000So, we had years of Monica Lewinsky, while at the same time people who had the damning knowledge about Clinton fell out of the country, like Ron Brown being murdered.
01:56:03.000And so, with Bush, the equivalent of the bicycle is the CBS National Guard story, and the pot smoking tapes.
01:56:21.000Um, and the 18-wheeler is, you know, all these journalists being paid to spin propaganda.
01:56:26.000Um, it works under Clinton and it works the same under Bush because, um, you have this salivating neocon establishment media ready and waiting to dismantle the phony attacks that are thrown its way.
01:56:40.000So then, uh... And then you have fake fights between them with an even more radical neocon talk radio that acts like it's fighting with the neocon TV.
01:56:49.000To give the illusion of some type of choice.
01:56:51.000So then, uh, middle America sees that, you know, the desperate liberals are hyping nothing stories, and so the government really must be clean after all.
01:57:01.000Meanwhile, the real depth of corruption is concealed by both the neocon and liberal media working in concert, working together to protect the establishment.
01:58:19.000Paul Joseph Watson, who's the webmaster for prisonplanet.com, one of my great websites, is riding shotgun with us.
01:58:25.000We're going to get more into these fake reporters.
01:58:28.000They're in print, they're on TV, they're on radio.
01:58:31.000I mean, a lot of them first got their start with big think tank funding, but many of them are actually paid supplemental government checks.
01:58:39.000Now, we know this from the 70s and Operation Mockingbird that came out in Congress where the government had hundreds of fake reporters in key editor positions and key foreign correspondent positions planting fake stories.
01:58:51.000You know about the Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence saying, we're going to plant stories and lie to you for your own good.
01:58:57.000Then as they get caught doing it, they say, well see, we told you.
01:59:02.000And then of course, Paul, I want to get into all these major TV shows and these dramas and these reality TV shows where they torture people.
01:59:38.000Well, I'm holding in my little hands here a 1992 edition of TV Guide from February 22nd to the 28th, and it has in big bold letters on the front cover, FAKE NEWS!
01:59:55.000And it gets into the whole issue of video press releases where big, huge corporations put out the Press releases and fake interviews that you see on your news magazine type shows where you know that some Hollywood celebrity or some chief executive officer of a corporation does not sit down and do a thousand interviews all across the country.
02:00:21.000They do suggested questions and things like that and they download the video from satellite And that's how it looks like your local TV station is interviewing some bigwig, you know, from Hollyweird or Big Politician or something.
02:00:36.000I mean, the reporters themselves are being paid.
02:00:39.000Well, just the first Gulf War was brought to you by Hill and Knowlton, the public relations firm, I'm sure a lot of people know about.
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02:05:31.000All right, folks, we're talking to Paul Watson.
02:05:34.000340-7091 that's 800-340-7091 or visit calbempuresoap.com he's the T-Rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network alright folks we're talking to Paul Watson we're 8 minutes and 15 seconds into this third hour
02:06:01.000we're about to get into actual torture on TV in Iraq that our government puts on there in that country torture Torturing people on TV.
02:06:15.000So you think it's bad that in England they've got Reality TV shows where you sign on to be tortured at a mock Guantanamo Bay camp or Threat Matrix in 24 and shows over here that simulate torturing people to death.
02:06:27.000Oh no, it's much more evil than that in Iraq.
02:06:33.000Yes, they're liberating them like Anton LaVey would liberate people.
02:06:37.000But letting Mike in Kentucky have a chance to finish up.
02:06:42.000Mike, you were talking about The havoc that it's going to start as they try to force us on to digital TV and radio, they were supposed to have it already in everywhere by 2005, but people aren't adopting it as quickly.
02:06:56.000And I'm all for higher quality, but you're right, it's not as sure, it's not as redundant, and it has a lot of problems, and it'll destroy a lot of local TV and radio stations.
02:07:08.000There shouldn't be a law that you have to go to this.
02:07:12.000Everybody is still waiting for the so-called magic Next generation chipset that's going to allow you to receive your digital picture when the wind blows your antenna a little bit, you know?
02:07:26.000And there's all kinds of stuff on the internet if you go look it up where people are complaining about not, you know, having trouble picking up their local PBS station because the signal's a little bit too strong and it's bouncing around and you get what's called multipath Or ghosting.
02:07:41.000And if you've got a perfect picture now on analog TV, why do you want to go out and buy a $200 receiver that may or may not work?
02:07:52.000And of course, FCC Chairman Colin Powell's son is resigning.
02:07:55.000He's getting out while the getting's good, I think, before this all comes down on him.
02:08:02.000But I wanted to mention, you've brought up some stuff that, for people that are new to this topic, I think they need to remember the first World Trade Center bombing, if they didn't know, was a government operation.
02:08:16.000And they had the man on the inside that was going to build a fake bomb, and they told him not to do it.
02:08:21.000He had it on smart enough to tape record his meetings with the FBI, so he had it on tape.
02:08:26.000Ahmad Salaam, they told him to build a real bomb.
02:08:28.000Yeah, he got a million dollars to go away and be quiet, and there was a, you brought it up, Texas Monthly Magazine, where the FBI actually created a Klan group.
02:08:38.000They got a bunch of guys, and they were too dumb to know how to build their own bomb, so they built the bomb for them, so they'd blow up a refinery, and Texas Monthly Magazine gave him the Bums Deer Award.
02:08:50.000I don't appreciate the FBI trying to kill family of mine.
02:08:53.000So, you know, for people to think that it's pretty far-fetched for them to orchestrate this pageant, as I like to call it, the September 11th, then they just, they have been out of the loop, as George Bush or Reagan or somebody would say, out of the loop, you know.
02:09:35.000Paul Watson, let's give people some background on what TVs become and the conditioning mechanism, but then let's get into the latest generation of scum.
02:09:45.000I mean, I don't think we get this bad this fast.
02:09:51.000Well, yeah, we have to underline the fact that this is not a new thing.
02:09:56.000I mean, I was watching an episode of Knight Rider back from the early 80s where they would electrocute the bad guys to try and make them talk.
02:10:06.000You will have probably heard of, maybe not the episode of 24, which has already aired in America, but which was premiered in the UK here last night.
02:10:17.000Where the Secretary of Defense orders for his own son to be tortured because he, quote, loves his son, but he loves his country even more.
02:10:28.000And the last shot in the episode is the Secretary of Defense's son with the goggles on, screeching, having the high-pitched noises fed directly into his ears.
02:10:40.000So it's getting even worse in these kind of programs.
02:10:44.000So three months ago it was the show Spooks in England where they torture people's seven-year-old daughters.
02:10:52.000Now we don't just torture other people's children, simulated, but the subconscious picks it up like it's real.
02:11:02.000Yes, it's not just the terrorists anymore, it's our own children, just because they might have some information which we need.
02:11:08.000But over in Iraq, which is a kind of crystal ball of the tyranny which will eventually be introduced in the US, they're kind of two steps ahead on the Richter scale.
02:11:20.000There's a new government-produced TV show airing in Iraq called Terrorists in the Hands of Justice and it features beaten up insurgents with the security forces standing over them with guns who go in front of the camera and confess to kidnappings, rapes and murders.
02:12:23.000Um, we had an article, uh, yesterday, which was called Torture TV Televising the Revolution, which talks about it.
02:12:30.000Yeah, I saw that, but, but, but, listen for a second.
02:12:33.000You're telling me NBC, I mean, I know you have the articles about this, the, uh, terrorism in the, you know, hands of justice in Iraq, but I need that NBC.
02:13:09.000They don't show the beatings, they show the beaten up, quote, insurgents with the security forces standing over them.
02:13:16.000So it's pretty obvious what has happened.
02:13:18.000And the rationale for putting this on television is to inspire the public into using the new tips program which they've set up in Iraq to inform on the activity of people in their neighborhood and report them to the government, which we highlighted six weeks ago.
02:13:38.000So while in the US it's thinly veiled as drama, in Iraq it's the latest brand of reality television.
02:13:45.000And in fact, in the UK, we've plumbed a new low where a show is about to start where contestants undergo torture techniques used at Guantanamo Bay.
02:14:11.000Yeah, but the fact is they're not going to show, you know, people being raped with glow sticks, electrocuted, people being beaten to death, which is what actually happened.
02:14:21.000They're going to show... Raped with large objects dripping with battery acid.
02:14:26.000Yeah, but on the show they're going to show sleep deprivation, stress inducement, the kind of lightest forms.
02:14:35.000So people are going to see that and think, you know, if this is all that's going on at Guantanamo Bay, and after all these people are terrorists, as the British government passes laws to arrest British citizens as terrorists without evidence or trial, then what's the big deal?
02:14:50.000I support this policy, because people are only going to see the lighter stuff, because they're not going to show people being beaten to death, because it's a, you know, a prize show.
02:15:00.000Well, again, even if you're a sicko and think torture's good, folks, Raping people with battery acid is not good.