On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by WorldNetDaily reporter Tom Flacco, who has covered the 9/11 whitewash like no one else. Also, 8 people were gunned down in a U.S. church massacre, but no one has been charged in connection with it. And a new report from the Financial Times of London points to growing fears that the credit boom may implode.
00:00:45.000We'll be live for the next three hours with wide open telephones.
00:00:49.000Coming up in the second hour, investigative journalist who's written for WorldNet Daily and a dozen other major publications, who's really covered the 9-11 whitewash like no one else has, going to almost all the different congressional meetings, It has also been researching...
00:01:10.000All of the confirmed reports of male prostitutes, underage male prostitutes, you name it, swirling around the White House and how this connects into the Gannon case, how it connects into the Franklin cover-up, how it connects in with the mysterious death of Hunter S. Thompson.
00:01:32.000Tom Flacco will be joining us coming up in the next hour.
00:02:00.000It's like someone flipped a switch and now this individual goes into the courthouse and grabs the gun away, shoots and kills three people, injures another.
00:02:10.000He's now been captured and then on top of it, somebody walks into a church meeting at a Sheraton hotel and starts blasting right at the time.
00:02:21.000It's always interesting when they introduce all these gun bills that magically this stuff starts happening.
00:02:25.000Is it a coincidence or is it part of something larger?
00:02:29.000Or in a country of 290 million people, are you occasionally going to have mass shootings?
00:02:34.000In fact, overall shootings in this country are down by about 14% of what they were just 7 years ago.
00:02:42.000On a 20 year average, it's down over 20%.
00:02:45.000And a lot of that is because of concealed carry.
00:02:49.000Because a lot of your gangland and home invasion shootings are down because there's more Americans with guns today.
00:02:56.000But somebody tuning in to watch the mainstream media and major studies will tell you in major polls that they think there's an epidemic of crime, that there's more crime.
00:03:05.000It's like they'll tell you there's an epidemic out there of child kidnapping, when actually the numbers are way down from what they were just ten years ago as well.
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00:08:22.000We're going to talk to award-winning investigative journalist, Tom Flacco.
00:08:27.000And no, it's not going to be about 9-11.
00:08:29.000He was there at almost all the different 9-11 hearings, both the Congressional White Wash and the unindependent Blue Ribbon Committee of Al-Qaeda Business Associates and Carlisle Group Business Associates.
00:08:43.000Remember, they first tried to have Henry Kissinger as the head of it, but he had to recuse himself.
00:08:47.000No, we're not going to have Tom on about that, as we've had him on many times before.
00:08:51.000No, he's done really an in-depth Sterling investigation of the homosexual rings in the White House and its connection to the pedophile rings and it's all from court records and mainstream news.
00:09:08.000Much of it that we've covered here on the broadcast but he's put it together in a twelve page report now on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com so that's coming up a little bit later in the second hour We're also going to be taking your calls early in this hour at 1-800-259-9231.
00:09:44.000The gunman shot and killed himself after the shooting spree.
00:09:47.000Well, see, if guns were just banned, he would have followed the law and wouldn't have done this.
00:09:52.000You know, he's willing to kill a bunch of people and kill himself, but he would have followed the law and not gotten a gun to do it.
00:09:58.000Of course, I'm being sarcastic, and again, actual mass shooting numbers are way down, upwards of twenty percent, From what they were a decade ago.
00:10:09.000That's like 14% just in the last few years.
00:10:11.000It's continuing to drop because most of these quote mass shootings that go into the statistics are gangs shooting each other.
00:10:20.000If a group of Italian gangsters shoot each other, Or a group of Irish mobsters shoot each other.
00:10:25.000More often, Mexican mafias shoot each other.
00:10:28.000Or black gangsters, the Crips and the Bloods.
00:10:31.000It's counted as a mass shooting and not as a criminal gang war.
00:10:36.000It goes into those statistics and the media says, You know, 15, 20 children this year were killed in mass shootings.
00:10:44.000And they don't tell you that almost all of those were gang members shooting each other in shootouts.
00:10:50.000But even those shootings are way down.
00:10:54.000Even those numbers are way down, but the average American, they've got all the different polls and studies, tunes in to television and watches all the docudramas and all the newscasts and it all runs together, reality and reality becomes unreality after they spin it.
00:11:11.000And the average American will tell you they think crime is rampant.
00:11:15.000They think it's just unbelievably bad.
00:11:20.000The only crime A group of crimes that is up in this country are in select areas of the nation, namely along the southern border.
00:11:33.000Crime is actually up around 10% just in the last two years along the southern border because you've got millions of desperate people coming across in Cochise County and Arizona and other areas, South Texas, the Mexican Mafia, most of them Mexican Special Forces.
00:11:49.000This has been on the Dallas Morning News at Houston Chronicle.
00:11:53.000I covered it a few weeks ago, are coming across and murdering people.
00:11:56.000I mean, even small-time drug dealers that aren't paying their cut.
00:12:01.000So we have that mafia moving in to the Southwest, predominantly in Texas and Arizona, are the real hot spots.
00:12:08.000Federal officers being killed, being maimed, Forest Service, FBI, Border Patrol being killed, being taken hostage, being beaten.
00:12:18.000I mean, you can just type that into a search engine, mainstream news articles will pop up for you.
00:12:23.000Those are really the only areas other than car theft.
00:12:48.000at my girlfriend's apartment, and kind of demanded their way in, just walked right past me, started searching around, and I said, what are you here for?
00:12:55.000I said, now you're going to fill out a report about my stolen vehicle.
00:12:58.000That was found a day later, you know, script.
00:13:54.000The state of Texas, number five in the world!
00:13:58.000They built so many prisons here, and when you drive out in the country, that's all you'll see is giant prisons.
00:14:02.000Literally, come down to our state, they bring them in from all these other states.
00:14:07.000And then they'll do stuff like go, oh, there's overcrowding.
00:14:10.000We've got to, right after they build some juvenile justice centers, some giant compound to put your children in, after they build some new law enforcement center, five years later, oh, we've got to expand it.
00:14:28.000So, but in a sick way, the argument's true.
00:14:30.000It actually has made crime go down, because they actually now are keeping real criminals in jail a few years longer, but so many other innocent people as well, so it's kind of a catch-22.
00:14:50.000You look at our crime numbers from a hundred years ago, I wish I could draw a graph out on radio, but I can't.
00:14:58.000But if you just go online and go to universities and criminology departments and look at crime rates, a hundred year graph, say from 1900 to 2000, and you see it explode!
00:16:01.000The advent of television and the violence on television, almost immediately injected, people got desensitized and it caused more and more murders, more and more people to think that, well that's how I'm supposed to act, I'm supposed to kill people.
00:16:16.000But by seeing that imagery over and over again, there's a lot of major studies that show this.
00:16:20.000But, what those studies don't take into account, something I do take into account, is that we just had a huge war.
00:16:27.000Millions of people came home who had seen violence, who had killed, and they admit that a lot of the new gangs and crime rings were peopled by soldiers.
00:17:24.000On Saturday at the Sheraton Hotel in Brookville, Wisconsin, where the service was regularly staged, four died at the scene and three others died later.
00:17:33.000Other injuries, police said, they range in age from teenagers to over 60s.
00:17:38.000People said they were not seeking anyone else in connection with the shootings.
00:17:42.000Now remember, that we had Larry Ashbrook.
00:18:10.000I don't know, he killed like, I think it was about ten people, I'm going from memory here.
00:18:14.000And then, it actually came out the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that he had been in the Navy, And that he would have gone to the police, gone to the paper, and he said, look, I'm under mind control.
00:18:44.000And then neighbors even saw what he claimed.
00:18:47.000Men in a white van pulling him out of his house about a week before it happened.
00:18:51.000Then he went completely ape, tore his house up, poured cement in the toilet and the bathtub, went totally crazy, and went in and started shooting people and then sat down and blew his own head off.
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00:24:17.000We got an internal FBI report, even before it was in the Associated Press, we told you about it from our sources, that Al-Cieda is planning, somewhere in the Southwest, to walk into a public school and mow down, and I mean, it's going to be systematic, hundreds of children.
00:24:36.000And of course, that's because the federal guidelines are that the school will be locked down once someone's in it.
00:24:43.000The principals have these automatic systems where it's literally prison doors, wire mesh on the windows.
00:24:49.000If there's a shooter inside, they lock it down, and the mass death begins.
00:24:54.000At Columbine, the SWAT team stayed outside for over four hours.
00:25:00.000I'd always thought almost four hours, but I had the editor of the Rocky Mountain News on a few years ago talking about the case, and he goes, oh no, Alex, I was there.
00:25:08.000It was four hours, fifteen minutes from the time they got there.
00:25:12.000And they would allow no one in, no one to be helped who was bleeding to death.
00:25:15.000There were no shots coming out of the building.
00:25:17.000They were ordered to do it by the feds.
00:25:20.000And it then came out in the Denver Post and in the Rocky Mountain News that at least, this is bare minimum, two of the children, my numbers are six, were shot by SWAT team members when they tried to exit the building.
00:25:36.000Now, a teacher, one of the SWAT team members, was crying.
00:25:41.000Saying, oh, I blew his head off, I blew his head off.
00:25:43.000So the teacher had a little recorder and recorded this, and that's why it all came out in court.
00:25:48.000They declared national security on a bunch of it.
00:25:51.000But I'm just trying to give you the background of all of this.
00:25:54.000And, of course, you've got Eric Harris and Clyball, both on psychotropic drugs.
00:26:01.000One of their fathers was an Air Force officer at a secret base.
00:26:05.000The other was a theoretical physicist for NASA.
00:26:08.000The FBI, the son of an FBI agent, founded the Trenchcoat Mafia in 97.
00:26:14.000At the school, Harris and Kleibold were part of a gifted program, had been through the special death education program that first started at Columbine in 1990.
00:26:23.000It was a 1991-2020 special about it, where they put the children in coffins until one of them almost suffocated.
00:26:30.000I have the 2020 news piece, the clips and the articles about it in my film, The Takeover.
00:26:38.000So it was a major mind control operation.
00:26:41.000And the children running out, I have these clips from CNN and other places, they came running out going, there were four men, four men in masks, they were shooting us!
00:26:48.000And all they have for proof for you is just a shot of Harrison Klebold walking through a lunchroom with rifles.
00:27:31.000And how did Harrison Kleibold get a hundred plus bombs, improvised explosive propane bombs, in the school before they started shooting from the parking lot?
00:28:51.000And then here's the Reuters article, Abu Massab al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's chief ally in Iraq, may be planning attacks on soft targets in the United States, including movie theaters, restaurants, and schools, Time Magazine reported Sunday.
00:29:04.000White House National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley would not discuss the specific warning which Time was circulating among U.S.
00:29:16.000Last week, in a restricted bulletin, he reported this six months ago.
00:29:20.000But he said the administration was concerned about reports which we think are very credible that Zawahiri is working more closely with Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda organization.
00:29:32.000Just like Operation Northwood says we need to kill kids, or use lists of young people on the death list When we remote control crash an aircraft, because that makes the people get really mad.
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00:33:10.000it's alex jones and the g_c_n_ radio network all right my friends your calls are coming up here momentarily and then i'm going to plunge into the rest of all this important news but but you saw the shootings in russia Where supposedly these people are held up holding hundreds of children and teachers hostage.
00:33:39.000And I go, folks, this is a government op.
00:33:41.000I go, I don't know that, but that's what my gut tells me.
00:34:32.000So I'm looking at it, I'm like, during the siege, I'm on record, I said, you watch, something's going to happen, the place is going to blow up, something to confuse everybody.
00:34:43.000And the real group that did the kidnappings in their mask will slip out the back, and then somebody that they, you know, shoot up with drugs will be the sole survivor.
00:34:50.000I mean, I said this on air, and it's not that I have a crystal ball.
00:35:03.000Uh, the, uh, Russians... Now, everybody saw the Russian troops, the special forces, go in, And so they had to admit that, well, they used a bomb to breach the wall.
00:35:17.000Because everybody sees them rush in and it happens.
00:35:19.000And then the terrorist inside detonated a bomb and started shooting everybody.
00:35:26.000But then all the terrorists are killed.
00:36:02.000They send in their special forces in their masks.
00:36:05.000They hold everybody hostage, wait till all the news cameras get there.
00:36:08.000Normally, Putin won't let news cameras aim at anything over there, but for this, you know, they let everybody get assembled, aim their cameras.
00:36:16.000You know, oh, see, I told you we gotta take your rights and we gotta fight the terrorists.
00:36:21.000And then, boom, they blow the real terrorists slip out the back, which they now admit, quote, the terrorists were able to escape most of them, a large group of them.
00:37:49.000And they'll do absolutely nothing, and then there'll be some big explosion, and then the guys will slip out.
00:37:54.000They'll change back into, you know, police uniforms and slip out the back, and George Bush will get up on TV and cry and say, sorry, we're registering all guns, we're going to start selectively arresting people who we think shouldn't have guns if you're under the suspicion of terrorism.
00:38:08.000On the terrorist watch list, they're already announcing this last week, you aren't going to be able to own a gun, turn them in.
00:38:13.000And you know, I never thought we'd need to turn them in, but I'm going to have to put my guns at a gun club and I chuck them out.
00:38:21.000Remember I get to go shootin', but darn it!
00:39:36.000But Gladiola is now getting a lot more attention, where the CIA, for a decade in Italy, would machine gun a bunch of people at a school, blow up a school bus, one of their favorites, Assassinate people, bomb downtown areas.
00:40:15.000I'm listening to NPR, as I said, in the Home Depot parking lot a few months ago, with my mouth hanging open.
00:40:20.000I knew it about Mozadek, but I couldn't believe they were admitting it.
00:40:23.000They had Kermit Roosevelt on, the grandson of Roosevelt, and all these people going, yeah, 1953, we hired 2,000 thugs, we machine-gunned, we bombed Mosque, and we screamed, up with Mozadek, up with communism.
00:40:36.000Of course, Mozadek was anti-communist and pro-West, Man of the Year, two years before that, threw the communists out.
00:40:43.000But he wouldn't give the Globalists all his oil, so they put the Shaw in.
00:40:46.000And here they were, just calmly admitting it on NPR, like it was good and normal.
00:40:52.000Oh yeah, we killed a bunch of people, we bombed stuff.
00:40:56.000I mean, they just do it over and over, and they were admitting it!
00:41:00.000The people that did it were proud of themselves!
00:41:06.000Hiring 2,000 thugs in all their different cities to run around bombing, slaughtering, killing, machine gunning, and then screaming, Mozedek!
00:41:58.000And I'm sitting here telling a lot of you, and you're not going to listen.
00:42:01.000We're going to have to watch him do it.
00:42:03.000I have to sit here, and I have to watch them kill, and kill, and kill, and kill, and kill, and kill!
00:42:13.000Over and over again, and then, unlike any serial killer case in history, I have to watch them on TV tearing up and telling you to give your liberties up and make them God, basically.
00:43:07.000And I do know that our good friends and trading partners, the Red Chinese, are down there cutting all kinds of sweet art deals, and I surely have military people down there.
00:43:14.000And not too long ago, George Bush's good friend, Vladimir Putin, the guy he'd look into and see his soul and could trust him, sold him 200,000 AK-47 assault rifles.
00:43:26.000I just wonder what the deal is down there.
00:43:35.000And they've taken over all of our old bases, and our government could have gotten it back, and the Republicans controlled the House and Senate in 2000, went along with Bill Clinton, and the conservatives said, you're not conservative if you don't get the canal over.
00:43:50.000And Putin is openly saying he'll go after us, so will the Chinese.
00:43:55.000But our government isn't worried about them.
00:43:56.000No, no, they're worried about Iran and Syria, who are third world countries and have done nothing to us.
00:44:02.000Well, it seems like Iran has tried to put a force inside of our hemisphere.
00:44:15.000Our government is controlled by Europe.
00:44:18.000So we're being subdivided, deals have been made as they divide the world up, and our government's made the deal with the Trilateral Commission, this is all public, you can read their own public documents on this, to give much of our hemisphere to the Chinese.
00:45:17.000I think if they know a cruise missile is coming, they should stand up on top of their Capitol building, open their shirt up and go, kill me, I'm your slave.
00:45:59.000Hey, one other question I wanted to ask you.
00:46:02.000The New World Order, the globalists, are all what you call organized criminals, gangsters.
00:46:06.000You know, if you study anything about gangsters, whether it's political or whether they're criminal, they have nasty habits of double-crossing each other.
00:46:13.000Is there any chance that they may decide that they don't need us anymore and could pull like a global St.
00:46:37.000Because the British have been doing it the longest time.
00:46:40.000And, I mean, look, when it comes to the European power bloc, they control things through the British, which are kind of like the center of the wheel.
00:47:16.000I was listening to one of your broadcasts, and I heard you say that you're apparently 31, and you've been doing it since you were about 20.
00:47:25.000One, how did you learn about the New World Order?
00:47:27.000And two, what made you decide to devote your life to fighting?
00:47:32.000Well, I get that question a lot, more and more.
00:47:34.000I mean, I'd read a lot of history books.
00:47:36.000I'd watch C-SPAN and see them say one thing and pass something, and I'd see CNN lie about it.
00:47:41.000So I knew that there was lying and manipulation.
00:47:44.000I knew the Federal Reserve was private.
00:47:46.000I knew that we were losing our sovereignty.
00:48:42.000But I do have the Washington Post and Gannett News Service from 2003, where they said if there's a red alert, the entire region or country will be locked down and you will have no rights and your children will be taken from you.
00:49:04.000Richard in Nebraska, you're on the air, welcome.
00:49:06.000Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that yesterday, about 6, between 6 and 6.30, Omaha time here on what they call the Good Life Cable television channel, they had a program called Homefront America, and where they had, they actually had a program at the school, ATF, Training to Combat Threats.
00:49:27.000And if I had been watching it, luckily, I value the I valued my television more than I do the programming.
00:49:38.000Otherwise, you would have gone through the screen.
00:49:42.000So, let me guess, they were saying there's evil right-wingers everywhere, the real terrorists are in Al-Qaeda, it's the evil gun owners?
00:49:49.000Yeah, and they were basically glorifying themselves, saying how good they were and how evil everybody else was and how they didn't make any mistakes and how Oh, they went on to where they ignored everything that they had been doing wrong.
00:50:05.000And then they made a lot of lies as well, making them sound like they were the true... Were they trying to link gun ownership to terrorism?
00:50:18.000Were they trying to link gun ownership to terrorism?
00:50:21.000Yeah, in fact they even went... I just got that from the name, the Homefront.
00:50:25.000Yeah, they even went so far as to... They're the commandos that guard the Homefront.
00:50:30.000They're the incredible leaders that love you.
00:50:32.000I wanted to let you know too, if you want to get the computer website for it or anything, they marked it down if you want to... Yeah, what's the name of the program again?
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00:56:21.000So you saw this special on this show called Homefront America.
00:56:26.000Boy, that sounds like an Orwellian titled program.
00:57:26.000Okay, well, there was a statement read from Mel Gibson to her parents that said that he supports their efforts and their struggle to save her, and he called upon her, Michael Shabo, to surrender care and custody of her to her parents.
00:58:12.000He'll get a million bucks of money if she's killed.
00:58:17.000But, uh, well, the other thing is... From the settlement, yeah.
00:58:20.000They had a surprise speaker there at the end.
00:58:22.000It was a woman a little bit younger than Terry, from California, who was in a similar comatose... Well, Terry's not in a coma, but this woman was comatose for years on a feeding tube.
00:58:36.000And they took her tube off for eight days, and she could feel herself being starved.
00:58:40.000She said she was aware of everything that was going on in her room.
00:58:43.000And they're pulling the tube at five o'clock today.
00:58:47.000We'll be talking about that coming up.
01:00:13.000And in Psalm 92 verse 7 it says, When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish, it is that they shall be destroyed forever.
01:00:24.000So what is happening is just prophecy, and we are supposed to put our trust in the Creator.
01:00:29.000And he also says in Psalm 91, Because you have made the Creator which is my refuge, even the most high, your habitation, There shall no evil befall you, neither shall any plague come near your dwelling.
01:00:42.000For he shall give his angels charge over you to keep you in all his ways.
01:00:46.000He shall call upon me and I will answer him.
01:01:37.000Now, here's what I need you to help me with, Alex, because I use much of your material to, well, debunk a lot of the lies from neocons and globalists.
01:01:51.000And I need you to connect the dots for me here.
01:01:53.000Uh, this, uh, uh, journalist, Italian journalist who was, uh, the attempted assassination that was made on her life.
01:02:02.000Yeah, she'd been doing reports on torture and the police state, and it's clear they were trying to kill her.
01:02:07.000Okay, but here's what I need you to connect the dots.
01:02:10.000Now, you know the CNN anchor, Yeah, when I have BBC and AP and AFP articles where the government admitted they were going to kill them before the war even started!
01:02:27.000Okay, now I tried to discuss this with one of these neocon talk show people and he says I hear his statement.
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01:07:36.000Tom went to many of the 9-11 hearings of the Congressional and the little blue ribbon whitewash committee that was set up.
01:07:43.000He's broken major 9-11 stories over and over again.
01:07:48.000Really powerful stuff, just sticks to what he can prove.
01:07:52.000And I was surprised when I saw his website, when I noticed that Paul Watson had linked to a story about Tom Flacco on PrisonPlanet.com a headline, a photographer tied to child sex ring arrested after Thompson's suicide.
01:08:09.000Now we had one of Hunter S. Thompson's friends on a few weeks ago who was one of the last people to talk to him wrote an article for the Globe and Mail, a major respected paper in Canada and he said that yes, Thompson had I've told him that I'm on to this story about 9-11 being a government inside job.
01:08:28.000I'm going to write an article about it.
01:08:30.000He's written some about it in one of his last books.
01:08:35.000I'm into this stuff about government underage sex slaves.
01:08:40.000And I'm talking to this guy on air and he's going, yes, yes, yes.
01:08:43.000And he basically paraphrased Thompson in his last article.
01:08:45.000I was telling him on the phone that they might kill me over this.
01:08:52.000And then, folks, again, I only stick to what I can absolutely, totally prove.
01:08:58.000And the New York Post reported, you know, top gay porn star, headlines, servicing members of Bohemian Grove.
01:09:20.000It's also in my Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove video.
01:09:24.000And I've got the article from the late 80s out of the Washington Times.
01:09:31.000You know, underage callboy tour of a White House midnight tour.
01:09:37.000I mean, I've got all this, and I don't want to believe it.
01:09:41.000And also, the globalists are masters of... and again, we don't even know who these globalists are, of all these witnesses and people.
01:09:50.000We know that people like Tom Flacco are doing the best job they can to analyze this.
01:09:54.000We know great Americans, like Senator John DeCamp, who was hired by the Senate basically to go disprove the Savings and Loans scam, where they went in and found this Larry King character, no relation to the Larry King on CNN, Black Larry King.
01:10:07.000And that was all true with the kids, and that was really going on.
01:10:11.000You know, the head treasurer for the Republican Party, and it led to what was described as Bohemian Grove, and a lot of scary stuff.
01:10:19.000But then you've got these children who are witnesses, and uh... I've had John DeCamp on, and he's covered this, but he's been very careful about it as well.
01:10:31.000But really, Tom Flacco, great to have you on.
01:10:56.000Why is Tom Flacco, who writes for a whole bunch of major publications, World Net Daily, you name it, over the years, what are you doing now getting off into this stuff?
01:11:08.000Well, you know, it's something that I've had.
01:11:11.000I've had the court testimony in my hands for two years.
01:11:14.000It was sent to me, and I didn't know how to use it.
01:11:19.000So you're a truth seeker, and just like with myself, this is where this stuff leads.
01:11:23.000It leads to devil worship, it leads to children.
01:11:38.000I said, boy, this is powerful stuff, and it does actually mention a sitting congressman's name.
01:11:44.000You know, the boy who was involved had quite a bit of credibility.
01:11:49.000You have to go and read the new edition, by the way.
01:11:53.000There's a brand new edition, 2005, the Franklin cover-up by John DeCamp.
01:11:58.000Yeah, and the incredible part is, after these books are written, his books written, later Barney Frank gets caught with underage prostitution ring out of his house.
01:12:10.000Well yeah, that's... That was on the nightly news!
01:12:13.000You see what I found to be really compelling is when...
01:12:19.000When the current White House, I heard it on CNBC and MSNBC, particularly MSNBC and The Countdown Show and Chris Matthews, both dedicated a few nights covering the story.
01:12:31.000The Countdown with Olbermann did it more than just a few nights, dealing with the Guckert Gannon issue of the fact that you had a person who had advertised himself as a male Well, he was really like a madam.
01:12:51.000Yeah, I didn't dig deeply into this, but in terms of the issue of Guckergannon on my forums, there are a lot of people posting quite a number of stories.
01:13:34.000What do you mean you're not going to go this far?
01:13:35.000There's been whole news articles, mainstream, about what's up with the kissing.
01:13:40.000Well, I mean, to me... Because that's how European men do it.
01:13:43.000They kiss somebody on the cheek, and Bush has been... I understand all that, and you know, as I say, he has the right to do what he wants to do.
01:13:51.000I don't do it myself, but you know, well, whatever.
01:13:54.000But I found that the issue of having a person with this background And then allowed to use an alias, not his real name, and be a White House reporter, and this has to be... And you got it linked to Karl Rove!
01:14:07.000This has to be Secret Service approved.
01:14:10.000Well, the link there was, I found an article with CBS News, and one of their reporters said that there's no way that, you know, basically that you'd have to be naive to think that the President's top advisor, his senior advisor, Mr. Rove, would not have a say or not know who this guy was.
01:14:29.000and know what his background is and whether that would cause at least an embarrassment, you know, if it is indeed true.
01:14:45.000And when I started looking into that, I said, well, you know, I started looking into the various articles and so forth, and I got out my old DeCamp book and started reading that, I got the new issue, which has even more startling revelations.
01:15:01.000They sent me a copy and I called... Let me stop you there again.
01:15:04.000Senator De Camp had his investigator killed.
01:15:53.000What I found is One of the alleged perpetrators, the guy that was said by all the reports that was taking the photographs, he admitted that he took the photographs, he took 20,000 to 30,000 photographs, and that Mr. de Campa, who I called John de Campa, and talked with him in two separate interviews, Albeit one of them was kind of short, but I did talk with him and got some updates and some information.
01:16:19.000We ought to try to, in the next hour, we ought to try to see if we can get him on.
01:16:24.000You know, as I said, I read the transcript of your piece and there were a few interesting things which I was not aware of, you know, and I read the article and I found that, you know, there's no way that the top White House advisors wouldn't know this guy's background.
01:16:38.000You know, why would they let somebody have access to the White House?
01:16:41.000Also, the Neocon website he ran is linked to GOP funding.
01:16:55.000Yes, Mrs. Gosch, who is the mother, Who met her son when we figured out the ages and so forth, and there's all kinds of... I referred to this and put some pictures up there, but I didn't take a stand myself.
01:17:12.000He was serving papers on a Sunday in 1982, I believe it was, and he just disappeared.
01:17:18.000And Paul Bonacci said he participated in the kidnapping by luring this child over next to a car where they quick snatched him and drugged him.
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01:23:09.000He's coming on in the next segment with Tom Flacco.
01:23:13.000And so this should be very interesting.
01:23:14.000Tom, look, we cannot ignore the admitted male prostitutes, the admitted underage, we're talking 16 years old, Barney Frank.
01:23:23.000I mean, how could Barney Frank, the congressman, how could he have Underage male prostitutes, that's pedophilia folks, in his, in his penthouse, with a coal boy ring being run out of it, and this was all over the national news years ago, and he never went to jail!
01:23:40.000You see, this shows the double standard!
01:25:40.000So this stuff is... I mean, this is definitely... I mean, just the homosexuality is enough because they claim they're Christian conservatives, but they're involved in this.
01:25:50.000It's very tragic, and what got me started when I talked to John, I thought to myself, here's the story.
01:25:58.000John, the camp told me that they arrested the photographer a couple days after the suicide of Mr. Thompson.
01:26:12.000Here you had a guy who in federal court testimony, and I quoted it over and over again, The testimony is absolutely incredible, and I think that's what makes a story like this fly.
01:26:21.000Because this was allowed in a court of law, but the other issue is that Judge Erbom, why didn't he say, hey, you're kidding me!
01:26:47.000that you know that he was on planes he was with mr. King he was you know that kind of thing but there was but but there were many many pictures and he was involved in it there are other people he knows who the other people were that were also taking pictures well it's like Abu Ghraib the government decides to let CBS News run about 15 pictures but I watched the senators walk out and They were given an afternoon to look at over 2,000 photos and over 100 videos.
01:27:14.000But then they came out and said it's indescribable.
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01:32:17.000We're going to be going to Senator John DeCamp here in about a minute or so, as well as Tom Flacco, who have both been kind enough to join us.
01:32:25.000Senator DeCamp just had major surgery just a week ago, and we appreciate him taking time out from bed to join us.
01:32:34.000Before we go back to our guest, my new film, Martial Law, 9-1-1, Rise of the Police State, is in three parts.
01:32:43.000The first 30 minutes or so is the hover blimps, the surveillance, the sound cannons, being threatened to be arrested at the RNC, anywhere in the city, for videotaping or interviewing anybody.
01:32:55.000Then we go into Ground Zero, and for an hour, I mean it's a 9-11 film in and of itself, for an hour, we cover September 11th like no one else has done.
01:34:01.000You search for the truth, it always leads back to this stuff.
01:34:05.000And, you know, Arnold in the gay magazines, and in the private collection of Robert Mapplethorpe, and we even show photos that blur out, you know, the public stuff in the gay porno magazines of Arnold.
01:34:16.000I mean, this isn't a joke, folks, and we didn't put them all in there, either.
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01:35:15.000Alright, we're now joined again, as I said, by Tom Flacco, who's written a detailed 12-page article about the disgusting underbelly of the New World Order, and Senator John DeCamp, a man of unbelievable courage, And, uh, let's go ahead and bring Senator DeCamp up first, as Tom has been on with us the last 20 minutes.
01:35:33.000Uh, Senator, good to have you on with us.
01:35:45.000I'm a lawyer in a little town called Claytonia, Nebraska.
01:35:49.000Used to be Lincoln and big cities, but I moved here kind of for family safety about a dozen years ago after I wrote a particular book called The Franklin Cover-Up.
01:36:00.000In fact, believe it or not, I'm the first, last, only one you'll get to meet in your life in one election without ever setting foot in the United States of America.
01:36:07.000I ran the entire campaign from Vietnam.
01:36:09.000I was a combat infantry captain over there and one crazy bet, whatever, led to another and I filed and, well, it's a long story.
01:36:16.000But I ended up winning and served then for 16 years after I got out of the legislature.
01:36:21.000And yes, I was extremely controversial.
01:36:23.000In fact, the World Herald, the major newspaper of the state, labeled me Most powerful and effective and blah blah blah in the history of the state and on and on.
01:36:32.000And they hate me just as much today now as they loved me then.
01:36:35.000That's because I kind of put some of their folk in prison on this whole issue we're talking about.
01:36:40.000But anyway, so about a dozen, God it's 15 years ago now, I was asked to represent some kids in some breaking story of old kids being molested and hauled to the White House and other places.
01:36:56.000I thought it was nonsense and I said publicly when I was confronted on the issue that if I even believed one of these crazy things I'd be the first one to stand up and do something about it or say something about it.
01:37:11.000One of the kids contacted me from prison, a kid named Paul Bonacci, where he'd been locked up.
01:37:15.000Now, to be clear, the Republican Party, which you'd been the head of in the state, actually had you go out quoting, because you were saying you didn't believe it, so they go, okay, yeah, yeah, he's with us, go investigate it for us, Senator.
01:37:25.000So you did, and tell folks what happened to one of your investigators.
01:37:29.000Well, I wasn't a senator at the time, but the Senate committee was a string of, I listed, I don't know how many I listed in the book, He had just talked to you, though.
01:38:10.000So, as I say, I got more than deeply involved.
01:38:15.000I wish, to be honest, and this sounds terrible for anybody to say, but I wish I'd never heard of Franklin.
01:38:20.000I wish I'd never heard of any of the people in it.
01:38:22.000I wish that I still was as naive and believed as innocently as I did before this all happened and I ended up getting deeper and deeper involved.
01:39:36.000As you know, one thing after another that at the time I wrote it seemed unbelievable has come out and been pretty well verified over and over.
01:39:44.000I think I was the first one, for example, Document in some detail some place called the Bohemian Grove and what happens there and specifics and dates and places and personnel and that's just one example.
01:39:55.000And I want you to tell in the book no one had ever gotten footage out.
01:40:00.000You had just gotten this from witnesses.
01:40:02.000You know I snuck in and got the footage.
01:40:06.000So anyway that's how I got involved and now I see things have blossomed up again and I hope it all go away and I I don't know which way to turn or react as a result of the latest development.
01:40:16.000Yes, I was the one that first, in my book, and then through my work, uncovered, located the missing Johnny Gosch and that whole thing there, and his mother has become one of my closest friends.
01:41:08.000I've read his book just about cover to cover, and it's a very disturbing story.
01:41:12.000I've been working on this for four to six weeks.
01:41:15.000I talked to John a couple of times about a week, week and a half ago, and I talked to Mrs. Gosch.
01:41:20.000So I did talk to the people who I would consider to be the most informed.
01:41:26.000You know, of anyone on this case, because they've been, they've literally had to live it.
01:41:30.000So I feel that the issue of the Guckert-Gannon situation, I talked to Mrs. Gosch, and she said she still has to see more evidence.
01:41:37.000I would ask my question to her, or to John, would be, is there any possibility of, she tried to contact this man, because the ages do match up, according to the, they like to say that Gannon says he's older, but on his website he advertised that he was the exact same age in 2000 as as Johnny gosh would have been you know which was also all of you know his real name the name he's using now the alias he was using and Johnny gosh it's the same initials well I will say this to give
01:42:07.000John doesn't know this I'm sure but I did find some other websites and some some people checked that he went to Fairview High School around the Pennsylvania Delaware border and right near there is a state university called Westchester State University and Guckert James Guckert did graduate They said that there was a Guckert who graduated from Westchester University.
01:42:29.000Interestingly enough, I have a backup.
01:42:33.000How did the Gannon thing, because I hear different reports, I see different reports, how did it first surface, and then where did it first surface that he looks like Johnny Gush?
01:42:43.000Well, that came on all kinds of, on my forums.
01:42:52.000With stories, with pictures, photos, people started digging.
01:42:55.000You know how when you've got thousands of people just digging up stuff and they're finding out where a person went to high school?
01:43:01.000But that's where we've got to be careful because the globalists love to take real news, real stories, try to insert something that isn't true, and then later bring that out and discredit As I say, I've not taken a position on either of them.
01:43:33.000When I finished writing my book, it came out First thing that happened was a group of lawyers, very powerful lawyers, got together because I named names.
01:43:47.000Anyway, and they said, we will sue him for libel and slander and he will be the most destroyed lawyer in this country and on and on and on.
01:43:56.000I got up and answered the same press conference.
01:43:58.000Hey, if anybody had said any of these things to me, I would want, I would sue them.
01:44:04.000So unless Unless I can prove the one thing I have to prove, which is an absolute defense no matter what, and that is truth.
01:44:15.000Truth is an absolute defense and libel.
01:44:17.000And you've never lost a case, you've proven it in court, and it gets worse when a TV station said you were a liar, you sued them and won.
01:44:27.000Okay, then that's when I sued them because they wanted to say I was a liar.
01:44:32.000I was going to say, hey, I'll call your bluff.
01:44:34.000See, that's what scares me, is that Bob Kerrey, who ran for president, you may or may remember, had been, along with Wadman, police chief of Omaha, former police chief, deeply involved in this thing, had been in a town called Wilmington, North Carolina, where one of them became police chief, and the other was campaigning.
01:44:50.000Anyway, they used the forum there, the TV station, which was Great Atlantic Telecast Company or something, a long time ago, so I can barely remember, but anyway, and they said certain things, and I said, hey man, I'm suing you, and I sued him, and
01:45:03.000They did their own investigation and surprisingly enough within a reasonable amount of time part of the deal was they had to apologize two times in a row on their evening news and they paid me damages which of course I'm not allowed to quote disclose in a private settlement so yeah there was one... That's over I mean I know you can't but it was over a mil a little bird told me?
01:45:24.000No I won a million dollars on behalf of one of the children we're still trying to collect that That's in my story.
01:45:46.000This is kind of sensitive and painful for me to talk about because I was up to my eyebrows in Operation Phoenix.
01:45:53.000I was a captain over there specially assigned to Colby for development of the Phoenix program and I used to try to defend it but I'll be honest with you in all good conscience I can't say anything other than it was an assassination program today even if I want to tell myself otherwise.
01:46:09.000But anyway that's neither here nor there.
01:46:11.000The question was what do I believe today?
01:46:14.000Based on the information I have seen, I've received, calls made, information from talking to people like Noreen.
01:46:22.000Kid Gunderson just left here yesterday.
01:46:24.000He came back right away and spent about two weeks with me.
01:46:27.000Even though week I was in the hospital here, but anyway, uh, I think there's a real serious question as to whether this This particular individual may indeed be Johnny gosh, I do remember a conversation one time Between Paul Bonassi.
01:46:45.000Bonassi was one of the central characters You know being taken to the White House and so on and so forth back in my original book and Paul once was Talking to Johnny's mother, as I recall, and he told, and Johnny had made, oh my gosh, had made contact with Paul, believe it or not, and some of these other kids that were involved.
01:47:05.000Anyway, and he explained why he could never come out.
01:47:07.000You know, he'd been involved in such things, snuff films and everything else, that once you're in that, you can't come out.
01:47:13.000And he explained to him, hey, he shaved his head, he said he's changed his face a little.
01:47:18.000If he were standing next to you right now, Noreen, you wouldn't recognize him, so.
01:47:22.000My reasons for saying what I say next are not because of his look or what I've seen in the papers.
01:47:28.000What I'm going to say next is I believe there's between an 80 and a 90 percent probability that it's correct, that that is, but nothing I say is based upon the looks or the appearance.
01:47:39.000Now I've read reports that Mrs. Gosch has talked to him.
01:47:55.000If Mrs. Gosch has talked to Mr. Gannon, then she has not confirmed that with me yet, and I think if she had, she would have confirmed that.
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01:52:48.000I want to keep Tom Flocko and Senator DeCamp into the next hour.
01:53:04.000I really appreciate both these great Americans joining us.
01:53:08.000Senator DeCamp started out trying to disprove something and found out it was true.
01:53:13.000And for 15 years his book has stood there and stood the test of time and has been really best selling by all the gauges that are out there.
01:53:21.000And unfortunately, I went and researched things that were in his book.
01:53:25.000I personally went places and videotaped the satanic ritual at Bohemian Grove where they have the effigy of a child and they burn it.
01:53:34.000And then I found a photo they released in 1909 of Bohemian Grove members standing around a small black child tied down to a board.
01:53:40.000Now that was released to the University of Berkeley, California, which is kind of like your unofficial mouthpiece.
01:53:58.000We're trying to find out just how big the fire is and trying to get through the smoke and the fog of war to get the specifics and the details.
01:54:06.000But my question to Tom Flacco, but first Senator DeCant, before we start the next hour and get into the details of this story, And of course we'll plug the book as well and tell you about Tom Flacco's side.
01:54:16.000But before I do that, we know this stuff's going on.
01:54:20.000You know, a lot of it's out in the open, they've been caught doing it.
01:54:23.000You know, Barney Frank with the underage people in his apartment, you know, is a call boy ring, and that's ABC News.
01:54:32.000What is wrong with the people running our country?
01:55:55.000Within about a day after that, or about the same time, another central, central character, again from my book, but also in the whole Franklin thing, and this whole thing, who actually went to prison, For some time, being Larry King, he was the central character, remember?
01:56:25.000Supposedly for not registering as a sex offender in a particular county he had been in or something, but he had registered to the best of my knowledge.
01:56:35.000Ted Gunderson then flew back here, and you know who Ted is, and he did put up, I was pulled off an emergency wagon a hundred miles off to a hospital in an ambulance, I got paralyzed and couldn't move anyway, but I'm out of the hospital now, but during that time then, Rusty got bailed out by Ted, and that hearing is coming up I think tomorrow on something other than, anyway, another thing, there were at least two notable figures in Washington,
01:57:05.000And I'd rather somebody else give you their names, because I don't make a mistake, Noreen can give you.
01:57:10.000People who had dealt with her, contacted her, claimed they were with the CIA back during the height of the Johnny Gosch thing, they suddenly get busted and arrested for both pedophile stuff and so on.
01:57:23.000I think this may extend deeper and broader and whatever than somewhat.
01:57:29.000And as I say, I have moved my opinion up based upon some of the other information I just got in the phone call that was left.
01:58:42.000The reports have been out there that this Gannon character may be this Johnny Gosh who disappeared when he was 12 years old back in the early 1980s.
01:58:52.000What we do know is that Gannon was a male prostitute, that Gannon ran a porn website, was basically like a madam.
01:58:58.000We do know that he was given specific, special access to the White House.
01:59:02.000We do know that he was good buddies with the President.
01:59:06.000I watched the body language on the news piece that showed Gannon asking him questions at a press conference.
01:59:11.000I mean, it's the way I'd look at a girlfriend if she was asking me questions at a press conference.
01:59:16.000I mean, folks, you know, a picture tells a million words.
01:59:19.000Well, this video tells a lot more than that.
01:59:21.000We know New York Post reporting that they bus in male prostitutes, you know, top gay porn stars, to quote, service them at the Bohemian Grove.
01:59:31.000We know, again, I have articles from the 80s from Spy Magazine and major publications about, you know, the homosexuality going on at the Grove, the male prostitutes.
01:59:41.000This is all in my film, Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove, made four years ago.
01:59:45.000So, we're about to break here, but I wanted to bring up Tom Flacco.
01:59:48.000Tom, just that amazing revelation that Senator DeCant gave us, upping it from 80%, 90%, to 97%, that Well, yeah, as I say, I read the book, and I would say I read about 85-90% of the book.
02:00:03.000I mean, his book stands the testament of time.
02:00:32.000As far as my interest in the thing, you're breaking some new ground.
02:00:37.000As you know, I led, if you've read the story, I don't know if you've read it yet.
02:00:41.000I led in the first paragraph of the story.
02:00:44.000To me, the story was that right at the time of the suicide, a couple days later, The photographer linked in court testimony, federal district court testimony, to Larry King and the case was picked up for allegedly, you know, a variety of things.
02:00:58.000Could you expand a little more about what happened to Rusty Nelson?
02:01:02.000You said his house was, when he was busted, everything in his house was seized.
02:01:06.000You're saying that that's what happened?
02:01:44.000Anyway, but then they hauled him down and had him locked up in tight security, super tight.
02:01:50.000I was getting, as I say, five to ten calls a day from people wanting me to see if I couldn't do something.
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02:02:15.000Ted stayed with him every minute of every hour of every day they were here together and he knows.
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02:05:53.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:05:56.000Alright, your calls are coming up in a few minutes.
02:05:58.000We're now 8 minutes, 15 seconds into this third hour, second segment.
02:06:03.000We're talking to Senator John DeCamp who wrote a book from his investigation with the state of this pedophile ring.
02:06:12.000People went to jail over it and his book alleged all these big top figures involved and they never sued him, they never challenged him.
02:06:19.000He had all these eyewitnesses, a lot of people were murdered who were involved in the investigation including the state's chief investigator that was reporting to DeCamp.
02:06:32.000And then it ties in with this 12-year-old boy that came up missing in the early 80s, Johnny Gosch, who's a very close look and age now, to Mr. Gannon, who we know is now reportedly saying that he was in relations with Bush and others.
02:06:49.000And we know he was a coal boy, a coal madam really, and ran a porno site as well.
02:06:56.000And we know the neocons were funding his so-called news website, and he had just unbelievable access to the corridors of the White House more than the other reporters.
02:08:00.000I believe we're talking... I don't believe.
02:08:02.000I know we're talking about the identical Hunter F. Thompson, as mentioned in my book, and, and ceremonies, and directing, uh, Enough films and being involved with the kids.
02:08:13.000There's no question in my mind about that.
02:08:15.000But what I guess I'm trying to make, the point I'm trying to make is there's about five events that seem to all just happen and they seem to be dominoing here at a rapid pace.
02:08:26.000For example, I had not printed my book, copy of it, for about, God, six, nine years.
02:08:33.000And then I was getting so many requests, I thought, oh, what the hell, and so I reprinted the book and it came out in the first, oh, first of February or so of 2005.
02:08:43.000Which is about a month and a half ago, right?
02:08:55.000For example, I will read you one paragraph of the update, because I wanted to bring people up to date.
02:09:00.000And one of the central, central characters, you remember, of the original book was a kid named Troy Boner.
02:09:07.000Troy Boner was the government's chief witness to help lock up all the other kids.
02:09:12.000Later he recanted, changed, and under oath testified that the government had forced him to.
02:09:17.000Anyway, so for example, I've got one of my updates in here.
02:09:20.000I'm going to read you one paragraph just to give you a flavor.
02:09:23.000In late 2003, Troy Boner walked into a hospital in New Mexico screaming, quote, they're after me, they're after me because of this book.
02:09:32.000The book Troy was waving was this book, The Franklin Cover-Up.
02:09:35.000Boner was mildly sedated and calmed down and put in a private room for observation.
02:09:41.000When nurses came to check on him early next morning, Boner was sitting in a chair bleeding from the mouth and quite dead.
02:09:47.000Former FBI Los Angeles Bureau Chief Ted Gunderson tried to get autopsy and other information and details that were promised him on Boner's death, but Gunderson and apparently every other entity were totally shut out of all information.
02:10:01.000No news stories on Boner's death were published in the news, Despite Boner's previous front page fame and notoriety in the Franklin case.
02:10:09.000Okay, so, my book came out, uh, then you... Anyway, then you have the Gannon thing, and then Hunter Thompson two days later, and two days after that, whatever, the rest of it gets picked up, and then Noreen can give, Noreen Gosch can give you information about these other arrests of these characters involved, uh, back then who were pretending, or I assume they were pretending, unless they really were CIA, But I think you ought to talk to her direct about that.
02:10:34.000They should get busted for pedophilia involved in that.
02:10:37.000And as I say, I don't know what's going on.
02:10:40.000I do know based upon people I have great confidence in.
02:10:43.000And I give as an example, Ted Gunderson.
02:10:45.000I don't know if you remember, Ted Gunderson was originally hired.
02:10:49.000He was originally hired to prove I was full of beans.
02:10:54.000Ted Gunderson was a former graduate of the University of Nebraska, football star and all that nonsense.
02:11:00.000And believe me, football in Nebraska is more sacred than the church.
02:11:04.000But anyway... And that's how Ted Gunderson, you know, went from being the former head FBI guy in L.A., he suddenly, through your case, found out about the New World Order, and then all the things he's done since then.
02:11:15.000I repeat, he was hired to come back and prove that Senator John DeCamp was full of BS and was discrediting people.
02:11:23.000He came on to me pretty strong and tough.
02:11:27.000I let him share everything I had and he came out of, you know, as my strong supporter and since then we've become very good friends and he's become obsessed with this issue.
02:11:36.000In fact, more obsessed than I because I've got to make a living and raise kids and worry about kids in college and things like that.
02:11:47.000I think there's too many coincidences going on.
02:11:50.000Let me stop you right there, Senator, and I want to bring Tom Flacco in and take some calls.
02:11:54.000Again, I don't know Hunter S. Thompson, but you put this in a book, you've done this in radio interviews years ago, saying that the witnesses said it was Hunter S. Thompson.
02:12:04.000Again, you've never been sued for your book.
02:12:08.000A major TV station said you were making stuff up.
02:12:38.000In other testimony, Bonassi said that Larry King was talking about a ceremony they had at Bohemian Grove, okay, where they did a snuff film.
02:12:48.000In other testimony, Banassi said that Larry King was smiling and laughing the whole time the film was being shown.
02:12:54.000And that, quote, the men with the hoods, unquote, were a satanic group which planned to use the dead boy in some sort of ceremony.
02:13:02.000He also named the director of the snuff film whom they had picked up in Las Vegas as, quote, Hunter Thompson.
02:13:10.000And I didn't know Hunter Thompson from A Bale of Hay or Nikita Khrushchev or anything else.
02:13:16.000When I wrote it, I wrote what the kid said, and only later did I learn the distinction this apparent individual has in the journalistic community.
02:13:27.000And as you know, when he did blow his brains out here, what, a couple weeks ago now, right after the Gannon thing broke, when he blew his brains out, I mean, that seemed to be lead news on TV, radio, networks, and everything else for a couple days.
02:13:40.000And that kind of seemed strange to me.
02:13:43.000And one of the things they kept bringing up, of course, was his Strange association in the world of the occult and blah blah blah.
02:13:59.000And that stuff was in the news, and there just could be somebody else, but according to... No, this guy was... Anyway, I'm not going to prove it one way or the other.
02:14:10.000No, but I'm trying to go off what you just said.
02:14:11.000You're saying, you know, is this the same person?
02:14:14.000I don't know, but you're saying you think it is.
02:14:17.000I feel even more certain that it's the same person than I do.
02:14:21.000Well, you know, he told a reporter that they're probably going to kill me, and then nobody saw him shoot himself.
02:14:31.000Well, I'll quote another thing from my book.
02:14:33.000I quoted back then, when asked about Gary Caridori, remember the private investigator?
02:15:55.000Tom Flacco, we've got about two minutes left in this segment.
02:15:57.000We're going to come back and take calls, questions, or comments for our guests.
02:16:01.000John, do you think that there are sitting United States Congressmen and Senators, or having recently, or recently retired, who are involved in this and are still sitting there, even as we prosecute, you know, Michael Jackson and 70-80 year old priest out of retirement and prosecute them and put them in prison.
02:16:19.000Do you think that there are sitting congressmen and senators who are getting a free pass for pedophilia?
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02:22:18.000My question, before we go to Lance and Tom and Sean and Jeremy and Mark, and those are the five calls we'll have time to take with our guests, my question to both of you, John DeCamp, Tom Flacco, investigating this, but John DeCamp along this, What's... I mean, Nero did stuff like this.
02:22:33.000Elites throughout history were into this.
02:22:35.000Is this like a rite of passage or something?
02:22:37.000Because for the rest of us who are normal, this is so alien, it's hard for us to even mentally get our minds around it.
02:22:45.000I've asked myself that question more often than any other question, because I've learned so much over the last 15 years, since I got really up to my eyebrows in this, and then of course there's some Pretty heavy-duty experience in politics also had kind of the other side.
02:23:01.000I think there is a network, strange as this may sound, a network where to maintain control of your network and make sure something doesn't go wrong you have to have certain people compromised or to a position where they they have to cooperate or do what you want and I think this is one of the most powerful techniques that's been devised Use of, particularly, pedophilia and this type of thing.
02:23:56.000Well, you know, I've thought about this myself, and I just, you know, you wonder, and you think about, you know, where is, as I said before, where is the judge protecting the kids?
02:24:06.000He gives you a million, awards you a million dollars, On behalf of your client, you know... But let's not look at all these hundreds of other kids.
02:24:13.000Let's not put out APBs and Amber Alerts and... Let's just shut this down.
02:24:17.000That's basically... It seems like he's shutting it down.
02:24:19.000I was disturbed by the child auctions that Paul described.
02:24:23.000Auctions... Let me touch upon one thing you said, okay?
02:24:26.000And I've got to be super, super cautious because there have been more attempts to punish me, get my bar license than somewhat since I wrote this, but you mentioned what happened to the judge, okay?
02:24:38.000The judge So I can't say the judge didn't, but I could tell there was some awful, hostile prejudice when the lawsuit was first filed, both in the media and otherwise.
02:24:51.000Now remember, the first named defendant, the first person named in that lawsuit wasn't Larry King or anybody else.
02:24:58.000The first named defendant, I'm going to make people mad now, was the Catholic Archdiocese of Omaha and certain Catholic priests.
02:25:08.000And of course, they were rapidly dismissed because nobody could believe this at that time.
02:25:13.000This was the first of these kind of lawsuits.
02:25:15.000Yeah, this was 15 years ago and nobody had heard of this.
02:25:18.000This was the first lawsuit of its kind filed in the United States where the name, the Catholic Church was named.
02:25:24.000Now remember, I was a little boy raised a Catholic and I'm not going to criticize the church or any other church.
02:25:29.000All I'm saying is, this was the first time in the United States of America where somebody boldly stepped forward and said, hey, you've got a problem.
02:25:37.000These priests are abusing certain kids.
02:25:39.000And since then, so much of what you put out over a decade ago has come out in other investigations.
02:25:45.000How many judgments and settlements and what's happened with the church.
02:25:47.000When I first wrote it then, 15 years ago, when I filed that lawsuit in 1990 or 1991, whatever it was, when I filed that first lawsuit, one in which I won the million, the first game defendant was in fact the Catholic Church in the Archdiocese of Omaha and certain Catholic priests.
02:26:05.000Obviously, it got out of the lawsuit, but the rest is history.
02:26:10.000So I use that only as an example to show how strange this all began.
02:26:16.000Alright, gentlemen, I want to be fair to the callers.
02:26:18.000Let me just keep both of you about ten more minutes so we can start taking calls.
02:26:21.000We've got a break here in a second, but right now, Lance in Maryland.
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02:30:56.000Alright, I wanted Lance to hold, so when our guests leave us here in a few minutes, we can get into the Terry Schiavo situation, which is very serious.
02:31:05.000I don't know if you can get back in, Lance, but if you're able to, go ahead, just try to dial and hear somebody hang up.
02:31:12.000We're about to go to Sean, Jeremy, Mark, and Jeff.
02:31:14.000That'll be it for calls for our guests, but gentlemen, the comment that the last caller made The comment that John had made was very interesting about one of these editors having the same name as Gannon today.
02:31:30.000I mean, maybe that is a coincidence, but that's pretty spooky, isn't it?
02:32:22.000And he was speaking to the corrupt spiritual leaders of his time, and the answer that he gave is, You are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father you will do.
02:32:34.000He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
02:32:39.000And that's the only answer that makes any sense in my mind as to why these people do the things they do.
02:33:07.000Um, I was wondering, Alex, do you remember the lady who called in last week and she mentioned something about there could be a possible connection between the Lefkoe murders and this whole Gannon story and then some other little elements that she brought up?
02:33:19.000Yeah, she was saying there had been a bunch of deaths with people in and around the case, and then separate deaths and arrests being brought up now by Senator DeCamp.
02:33:29.000Yeah, I was wondering if, uh, I can't remember, the reporter, if he found anything pertaining to that.
02:33:38.000Well, you're saying reporter, but you're talking about me about finding, what did you say?
02:33:42.000Finding... Information depending to what the lady said about the Lesko case being related, the murders being related to the Gannon case, and so on and so forth.
02:33:52.000No, I haven't heard anything about that.
02:36:13.000And the testimony that I read... And met with hundreds of top CEOs in a secret meeting, and they'd been there at 8 that morning, before the attacks even took place, with Warren Buffett.
02:36:23.000Now, all the people that were part of this... I mean, it's just like a revisit of the Franklin cover-up book.
02:36:29.000You know, just why did it go to Offutt Air Force Base?
02:36:33.000Do you have any comments on that, Senator DeCamp?
02:36:36.000Well, the obvious one is the one that was officially given, that Offutt Air Force Base is in the middle of the United States.
02:36:43.000It's about as far as you can get, and supposedly the most secure place on planet Earth, away from Russian... Why would all those CEOs be there that morning?
02:36:53.000Well, now that's another good question, because you remember in my book, Offutt was the centerpiece of where kids were Offit and quite frankly a lot of kids out of Boys Town was the centerpiece of where they were taken and then flown here, flown there, taken here, taken there, so on and so forth.
02:37:08.000So I have my own, I guess, opinions and suspicions, but do I have any proof of anything?
02:37:15.000The facts are this is where the president came, and we also know from my book, which I proved I think in spades over and over, Buffett was a centerpiece, as was a couple of other players.
02:37:37.000Yeah, most of them worked at the World Trade Center, but they had all been called there by Warren Buffett for a special meeting that morning.
02:37:44.000The genesis of the Gannon is gosh story.
02:37:47.000It wasn't so much conjecture from the Internet.
02:37:49.000Actually, I think The one who first gave us ready legs is actually Sherman Skolnick.
02:38:57.000Larry King was officially labeled by the New York Times and others as the fastest rising black star in the Republican Party.
02:39:03.000He had a one-on-one relationship with Reagan and with Bush.
02:39:08.000In fact, he picked up the phone and he proved to people he could call Reagan on the phone.
02:39:12.000He also was the one who opened and sang the national anthem at the Republican National Convention in 1984 and 1988.
02:39:19.000And I repeat, I know I was there at the biggest party he ever gave because I was an elected delegate to both Republican National Conventions.
02:40:07.000Let's say half of them to three quarters of them have been confiscated by federal authority.
02:40:11.000You told me the other day, and I put in the story, that federal authorities were looking for the photos now.
02:40:18.000Well, why would they be looking for the photos in a case that's supposedly closed?
02:40:22.000The people have gone to jail, and it's been 10, 12, 13 years, 15 years.
02:40:26.000Okay, once again, if I say it, you can pretty well take it as true.
02:40:31.000In this particular case, I happen to have the search warrants, the copies of the search warrants.
02:40:35.000And they list all these things they're looking for.
02:40:38.000And yes indeed they are exactly what we're talking about pedophile pictures and computer this and computer tapes and everything else and they listed all the various locations where they thought they might gain access to them.
02:40:47.000What they actually found there I do not know I wasn't in on the search and they definitely would not share that with me I'm sure.
02:40:58.000Well, we've got to be careful that Gannon isn't somebody who then mixes in disinfo with all the other stuff that's true, then they bring it all out and discredit the whole thing.
02:41:11.000And I tend to lean, I said last week, 80% chance this is an internal war right now, and they're all holding things over each other's heads.
02:41:20.000I think so, Alex, I think that's definitely.
02:41:24.000I don't think the Gannon-Gosch thing is as important as the fact that As what he represented, or the fact that the, that why would you let, it's like saying that, you know, a whole pool of White House reporters who advertise themselves as $200 a day, $1,200, $1,200 a day, $200 an hour male prostitutes as reporters.
02:42:20.000We was at an electronics store and I brought your name up Alex and we got into Franklin cover up and on and on and on and there was a contractor next to us you can hear he's listening to us he said he was a carpenter and I was like well that's obvious shouldn't he get all the garb for it but he says no you don't understand he says I did a bunch of work for Larry King making a whole bunch of what he considered walk-in closets on his property so they were about four feet by six feet
02:42:47.000And I'm wondering if John DeCamp has ever heard anything that or seen a floor layout for King's property up there off Florence Boulevard, North Omaha.
02:42:55.000Paul Bonassi and some others brought this up to me.
02:43:01.000I did not put this in my book because I did not have the proof.
02:43:06.000I did not have anything and I couldn't risk making any accusation that I couldn't prove in spades.
02:43:13.000Okay, because the reason I was saying this is because when we told this guy A little more about it, because he hadn't really heard other than, you know, the hoopla that was going on in Omaha, you know, over the Franklin cover, people getting fired, you know, cops getting fired because of Wadman's corruption and stuff.
02:43:26.000He left there visibly shook, I mean, shaking, just, it was unbelievable.
02:43:31.000He just got in his pickup and hauled ass, and that was, excuse my Spanish, last time I'd ever seen that man, but yeah, he said he put a bunch of, they were about four by six, what he considered walking closets with benches.
02:43:44.000So this guy wasn't lying to me then, was he?
02:44:50.000Well, I want to commend both of you, Tom Flacco, Senator John DeCamp.
02:44:54.000People can read Tom Flacco's detailed reportage at TomFlacco.com.
02:44:57.000And Senator DeCamp, definitely, please have your secretary send me a new copy, a complimentary, or I'll pay for it if you want.
02:45:02.000I'll get you a copy and you can mention it on the air if you choose.
02:45:05.000And the only reason I reprinted it, I have never spent one penny, not one penny, advertising or promoting the book.
02:45:12.000But we were having so many people calling back orders, so I got a reprint of a A few thousand, and updated it with, like I said, some of the things, including some other names you've mentioned here.
02:45:40.000DeCampLegal at INebraska.com or net, which is I know because it's on my site and 20,000 people have read the story already and so I'm promoting the email within the text body of the story.
02:46:05.000So John, you should be getting a few e-mails.
02:46:07.000Hey, I gotta thank you for giving that because I didn't know.
02:46:11.000No, you're going to get... I'm sure you're going to get there.
02:46:13.000I think it's really dumber than dog poo now and I couldn't even tell you.
02:46:34.000Alright, Tom Flacco, God bless, and of course to you too, John DeCamp, we talked off air, final comment, you and your family are a little bit worried about your safety right now.
02:46:58.000Alright, there goes Tom Flacco and Senator John DeCamp, and again, I respect John DeCamp, but so much of what he said I've checked out myself, and it's true.
02:47:09.000Again, on a lot of this we just don't know, but we know there's smoke.
02:47:40.000And if we give up our liberties for so-called security, we're not going to get any of it.
02:47:46.000And I just beg people out there to speak out about this, to educate yourself.
02:47:52.000To get your children out of these public schools where they want to force psychologically test all of them and drug them.
02:47:57.000I mean, this is an abusive system that is teaching us how to be abusive to the children.
02:48:03.000It is teaching the society how to turn children into prisoners and put them in jail for writing the word gun in a fiction story or to basically just destroy the society.
02:48:15.000I mean, two-thirds of foster children are on, more than two-thirds, are on psychotropic drugs.
02:48:20.000I mean, just look what this government does to children.
02:48:24.000Look at how the media, you know, it's out of control.
02:48:29.000And the globalists are the scum of the earth.
02:48:31.000It's the only term I can think of to describe them.
02:48:33.000They are the bottom of the pit of Hades.
02:48:38.000God needs us to stand up and defend the little ones.
02:48:40.000Final segment coming up, stay with me.
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02:52:26.000And they're saying that Abu Al-Zawahiri is going to... Abu Musab Al-Zawahiri is going to be attacking any minute.
02:52:35.000But the problem is, is they claim they've killed him once, and they've captured him four times, and they never retract the last capture.
02:52:43.000It's just, oh, we captured him again, oh, we killed him again.
02:52:46.000And they're saying that they've got, you know, really good sources that, uh, this is Time Magazine CNN's lit edition, that, you know, may be hit any moment.
02:52:54.000The schools, the public schools, Just like Russia, just like the rest of it, it'll be a staged event, and God help those children.
02:53:02.000Anybody who's got their children in a government training camp, or they might have a private school, is just nuts.
02:53:08.000We've got to get the globalists out of power.
02:53:09.000We've at least got to expose them so badly, that they stop being so arrogant, and so over the top.
02:53:15.000Of course, now it's coming out on MSNBC, no evidence that Al-Syedah knew of Madrid plot.
02:53:21.000The year after terrorists killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,500 at two Madrid train stations, both U.S.
02:53:27.000and Spanish officials say there is no evidence that Al-Qaeda leadership authorized or even knew of the plan.
02:53:33.000No, but it's mainstream news in Spain who was behind it.
02:53:37.000Activists rally to save Terri Schiavo.
02:53:40.000They're scheduled to pull her feeding tube today.
02:53:48.000She is just paralyzed and they want to set the precedent to kill her and everybody should be calling the governor, calling the protective families and saying, hey, why don't you really protect somebody for once?
02:54:00.000And we had callers earlier trying to call her and the other guests and I told them to call back in.
02:54:03.000Did any of them call back in at the end here to talk about Terry?
02:54:07.000I guess they didn't because they had details and I wanted to get to them.
02:54:13.000I'll be talking more about this tomorrow and we'll continue to fight.
02:54:16.000I've been fighting for Terry along with you for three years.
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