Terri Schiavo's health wanes as parents appeal as she is now going into her seventh day without food or water. The torture continues and a judge refuses to order her feeding tube restored. Alex goes over an affidavit from a court case where a nurse claims to have been involved in the torture of a woman who can barely talk. Alex also talks about a C-SPAN clip that details how the government carried out 9/11.
00:01:56.000Look, the Judiciary is the weakest of the three branches of government, according to the Founding Fathers.
00:02:03.000The Legislative is the most powerful, then the Executive, then the Judiciary.
00:02:10.000Some of the Founding Fathers argued the weakest is the Executive, but certainly the strongest is the Legislative.
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00:02:30.000It's easier with judicial tyranny or executive tyranny.
00:02:37.000I think I saw the most amazing C-SPAN clip I've ever watched yesterday and I'm trying to get a VHS or DVD copy of it because I'm working feverishly right now on the Arnold Exposed ads that have come in for the contest.
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00:08:12.000It'll be seven days this afternoon since Terry Shivo Schindler had her feeding tube taken.
00:08:22.000And there have been a lot of new developments, the tales of this tragedy, this unfolding tragedy coming up.
00:08:30.000One thing's for sure, she's going to be a martyr, and it's going to really expose the pro-death crowd that's promoting euthanasia in this country and worldwide.
00:08:40.000I hope something happens here in two minutes to midnight, that the feeding tube can be reinserted.
00:08:47.000She went six, seven days, a few years ago, without water and food, and this kills a lot of people.
00:08:56.000Coming up in about 15 minutes, Dr. Helen Morrison, An expert on serial killers who has interviewed and studied such notables as John Wayne Gacy and many, many others who's lived in and around serial killers, studied them like nobody else.
00:09:15.000She'll be joining us because I want to pick her brain about elite serial killers.
00:09:19.000I want to perhaps even shift her paradigm and look at the mindset of the ruling elite, so that's coming up Then in the middle of the next hour, ladies and gentlemen, we have Timothy McNiven, who works for the Pentagon, who was part of these wargame scenarios of 9-11 style attacks, and he believes that's clear evidence of government involvement.
00:09:42.000This is just a bombshell revelation that is coming up in the middle of the next hour.
00:09:49.000This entire broadcast is shaping up to be five-star, so you do not want to miss it.
00:09:56.000I'm kind of glad it's a Friday show because we air a lot of our great affiliates throughout the weekend and I hope that if you miss any of it you have a chance to tune in and hear all of it because it's so important.
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00:10:14.000This is kind of a good Precursor to what I'm about to cover.
00:10:25.000A report on sexual abuse by peacekeepers recommended Thursday that offending soldiers and their commanders be punished by their home countries, that payments made to them be recovered and put into a fund for victims, and that the United Nations make compliance with these measures to condition for taking part in its missions.
00:10:48.000Now, again, everywhere the UN goes, they murder, they torture, they kidnap hundreds of thousands, I mean hundreds of thousands, we're talking in the millions total in the last decade.
00:11:01.000In the Balkans, 200,000 women and children were kidnapped at gunpoint, loaded on C-130s, loaded on jets, flown to Saudi Arabia, flown to Israel, flown to Malaysia, DynCorp was convicted in civil court of running the operation.
00:11:29.000And you still tell the average person about this, they just can't believe it because it's never really hit our national news.
00:11:35.000It's in the foreign news, it's in the back of the newspaper occasionally, here.
00:11:39.000I mean, this is stuff so huge, so bad, it's hard to get your mind around.
00:11:46.000But last night I refreshed PrisonPlanet.com and Paul Watson had updated it.
00:11:51.000A great listener had sent us a link to C-SPAN yesterday, live, with Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, just an incredible individual, just amazing courage.
00:12:00.000We have her in my film, The Matrix of Evil, talking about the government-run white slavery rings in 9-11.
00:12:08.000But here she has General Myers, the Chairman and Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:12:11.000She has The Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, the arrogant Dark Lord, she has them all up there in front of her, and she hits them with, why are you giving contracts to DynCorp involved in white slavery rigs?
00:12:27.000Why are trillions missing from the Pentagon?
00:12:34.000And Rumsfeld literally Who never loses a step, or misses a beat, literally looks like somebody was punching him in the stomach while poking hot pokers in his eyeballs.
00:12:46.000I mean, he literally cringes, starts shaking, and they won't answer any of it.
00:12:53.000We're not going to tell you what computer systems have made trillions come up missing, just like Enron folks, but much larger.
00:14:02.000Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade.
00:14:16.000The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business.
00:14:21.000But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children.
00:14:30.000While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program.
00:14:44.000Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S.
00:14:46.000government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?
00:14:51.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.
00:15:03.000Fiscal year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing.
00:15:07.000Fiscal year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.
00:15:11.000And DOD is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook.
00:15:17.000The Pentagon has claimed year after year That the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.
00:15:25.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contract today to make those systems communicate with each other?
00:15:33.000How long have they had those contracts?
00:15:36.000And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?
00:15:39.000Finally, Mr. Secretary, after the last hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four war games on September 11th.
00:15:50.000I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today, and then I do expect the written response to my previous question, hopefully by the end of the week.
00:16:09.000The answer to your first question is no, absolutely not.
00:16:13.000The policy of the United States government is clear, unambiguous, and opposed to the activities that you described.
00:16:24.000The second question... Well, how do you explain the fact that DynCorp and its successor companies have received and continue to receive government contracts?
00:16:38.000I would have to go and find the facts, but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts, and there are times that corporations do things they should not do, in which case they tend to be suspended for some period.
00:16:54.000There are times then that under the laws and the rules and regulations passed by the Congress and implemented by the executive branch, that corporations can get off of Out of the penalty box, if you will, and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government.
00:17:12.000They're generally not barred in perpetuity.
00:17:15.000This contract, this company, was never in the penalty box.
00:17:20.000If you could proceed to my second question, please.
00:17:24.000The second question... I've forgotten what the second question was.
00:17:56.000And how much money have we spent on it?
00:17:59.000In general, we spend about $20 billion in the Department of Information Technology Systems.
00:18:04.000The accounting systems are part of that.
00:18:08.000I can get you the exact number for the record of what we spend on our current, what we call legacy systems, and those that we're moving toward.
00:18:35.000I would be glad to provide for the record.
00:18:37.000I don't want to talk from the top of my head and be incorrect.
00:18:41.000On your first question, I'm advised by Dr. Chu that it was not the corporation that was engaged in the activities you characterized, but I'm told it was an employee of the corporation.
00:18:59.000Well, if you can give me information... I'm sure you are interested in all of the information that I have and I'll be more than happy to provide it to you.
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00:24:19.000And it burns, burns, burns... Alright, welcome to the next hour.
00:24:22.000Until 20 minutes into the next hour, we're going to be talking to Dr. Helen Morrison.
00:24:28.000And of course she's got the best-selling book, My Life Among the Serial Killers, Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Murderers.
00:24:36.000And of course, she's certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology, or General Psychiatry, as well as Child and Adolescent Psychiatry.
00:24:45.000She's also a certified forensic psychiatrist.
00:24:47.000Dr. Morrison is the editor-co-author of four academic books, and the author and co-author of over 125 published articles in a professional field, having worked with both United States and international law enforcement.
00:25:00.000She has made presentations in over 15 countries, with over 200 presentations in the U.S.
00:25:06.000alone, Over the course of 25 years, Dr. Morrison has profiled over 80 serial killers worldwide in her role as consultant to a variety of law enforcement agencies.
00:25:17.000She has interviewed and studied such notables as John Wayne Gacy, Ed Gein, and of course Wayne Williams, among many, many others.
00:25:28.000And we have a link via Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com to My Life Among the Serial Killers.
00:25:35.000And I heard her on Coast to Coast AM with George Dorey and I ended up staying up real late to hear most of the interview.
00:25:40.000Very interesting because I, I mean, I am not an expert on serial killers, but I'm an expert on evil people.
00:25:46.000The Hitlers, the Stalins of the world, the mass murderers, these mass shooters, they all have this death cult, Hitler, goth obsession.
00:25:56.000And just talking to her during the breaks, she's saying, no, no, those are mass murderers.
00:25:59.000They're into power, domination, control, you know, usually S&M.
00:26:03.000But the serial killer is something completely different.
00:26:08.000And so to try to look at this whole mindset and ideology or philosophy or brain structure is Dr. Helen Morrison.
00:26:23.000Just kind of a thumbnail, tell us how you got into this and kind of describe some of the different levels of the rabbit hole we're about to go down.
00:26:31.000Well, first of all, I was in my postgraduate medical school training and I happened to be able to meet an FBI special agent who showed me some photographs of a particularly gruesome murder, asked me what kind of a person could commit crimes like that.
00:26:49.000I'd never experienced anything like that.
00:26:52.000But if you ever found the serial murderer, I'd like to talk to him.
00:26:55.000And about six months later, I began my work with Richard Masick, who in the Chicago area was known as the Mad Biter.
00:27:03.000Basically, when I started the research, there were no differences between how people saw murderers.
00:27:09.000They were all murderers, but now we see serial murderers as people who kill, at least in my research project, over seven people over a period of years.
00:27:24.000really do anything except like a rote type murder over time.
00:27:29.000Mass murderers, like the Columbine killings and the killings in Minnesota, are people who kill because of rage, anger, and they usually feel that people have somehow disappointed them, kept them from a promotion, kept them from attaining what they think they deserve.
00:27:49.000The third type of murderer is just the Hitler type murderer.
00:27:52.000Hitler, Stalin, The people that we know over years who see themselves as God-like figures controlling the world and making the world into their very own image.
00:28:05.000So there are very great distinctions between those three types.
00:28:10.000But with a classical serial killer, the person that kills, you know, as you said, over seven people in this systematic way, I mean, I've heard of them, I've seen them on TV, a lot of them say it's about power and control, and we see that with Hitler.
00:28:22.000Well, we see people saying it's about power and control, but most people who talk about serial murderers have never sat in their cells with them, or in their prisons with them, and talked with them in depth over hundreds of hours to find that They are basically empty shell people.
00:28:45.000People say power and control, but it's one way for them to understand the world around them.
00:28:52.000If you are tying someone up, you have a very solid evidentiary piece that there is someone or something in front of you.
00:29:02.000If you talk to these serial murderers, and I think Ridgway was probably A wonderful example of this, that he was the Green River Killer.
00:29:11.000When he is talking about his victims, and the investigators are getting furious with him because he's really not telling them anything in any way.
00:29:22.000And they said to him finally, well what did you think you were doing?
00:29:25.000And he said, well it was taking out the garbage.
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00:33:11.000Coming up later in the next hour, we're going to be talking about 9-11 with an Army whistleblower concerning government prior knowledge, involvement, running drills of the exact same thing happening that did happen.
00:33:29.000Also, we'll play that clip from C-SPAN yesterday where Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney grills Secretary of Defense And Rumsfeld doesn't even deny about DynCorp and the 200,000 women and children kidnapped.
00:33:44.000He doesn't deny the trillions missing from the Pentagon.
00:33:46.000He doesn't deny war games on the morning of 9-11.
00:33:50.000It is the most incredible clip I've ever seen off C-SPAN.
00:33:52.000We'll be playing that coming up, but for the next 40-50 minutes, we've got Dr. Helen Morrison.
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00:35:34.000Going back to Dr. Helen Morrison and of course the book, My Life Among Serial Killers, Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Murderers, let me list three different killers.
00:35:45.000Or one of them alleged killers, but now he's admitted it.
00:35:47.000This scumbag demon in Florida, convicted child molester, grabs a little girl, uses her for two days, kills her.
00:35:57.000He's doing it, I guess, for his enjoyment, but being a demonic creature.
00:36:04.000Now, I've seen him in interviews, and his doctor,
00:36:10.000Saying that he did it basically because he wanted sex slave robots and at the same time he said he didn't know why he did it was also just a compulsion and then we have like a Charlie Manson who's flipping out on LSD and Helter Skelter and killing Sharon Tate and cutting babies out of her you know all of this versus a John Wayne Gacy dressing up like a clown versus
00:36:36.000Let's say, so I mean, what is the difference between all these different people?
00:36:40.000I mean, how would you characterize them versus a Harris or Kleibel with a Hitler obsession?
00:36:46.000I mean, how do you differentiate all these different people?
00:36:50.000Well, the easy way to differentiate the serial killer from everyone else is that serial killers don't have motives.
00:36:57.000I think the biggest myth that's ever been perpetuated about serial murderers is that they either hated their mothers or their fathers were brutal or They were people who were mistreated or whatever.
00:37:12.000If you look at the statistical analysis that we've done, the thing that we see is that the only commonality among a serial killer is that they have no motive.
00:37:23.000Sexual predators have sex as a motive.
00:37:26.000And the man who killed the little girl in Florida, to him it was just a matter of gratification.
00:37:34.000To Dylan and Klebold, who were the Columbine killers, their motive was to get back at everyone that they felt had dissed them, or had been people who didn't recognize their talents as they saw them.
00:37:49.000The other people that you speak about, the cult leaders, you know, Jim Jones, who gave everybody the tainted Kool-Aid, Manson, who directed his crew, to killings and so forth are people who were able to take a group of individuals and turn them into what they wanted them to be.
00:38:13.000So would you say that people like Manson and Jim Jones are Hitlers that never made it because they seem to want to have that power?
00:38:35.000They are people who are, as many cult leaders are, able to find a very vulnerable group of people and turn them into what they wanted them to be.
00:38:47.000Okay, so we've got megalomaniacs, and then we've got just the sexual predators, and then we've got serial killers.
00:38:57.000And the differences for the first two, the cult leader and the sex predator, is that they have motive, they get gratification, they see themselves as being incredibly talented individuals, but the serial murderer, if you really talk to them, and I'm talking about sitting down with them for hours, hundreds of hours, they are so empty.
00:39:26.000From what we as developmentalists see, past the first year of life, developmentally.
00:39:32.000Okay, then, sorry to interrupt, but what do you call a Zodiac Killer, then, or the guy up in Missouri who was taunting the local TV stations?
00:39:43.000Well, BTK, or the Bind, Torture, Kill person, is a serial killer.
00:39:49.000Okay, well then, where does the taunting come in, then, if it's not about power?
00:39:52.000Oh, well, the taunting comes in about intelligence.
00:40:13.000And it's a highly manipulative way of being, but at the same time, it has, you know, people think, oh, he must have gotten great fun out of doing this, but he didn't.
00:40:27.000So, well... It takes away the myths that have always been perpetuated about serial killers.
00:40:34.000You know, the Hollywood movies, for example, I think the biggest one was Silence of the Lambs, that really put it into the public's knowledge, made them so, made him so human.
00:40:47.000It made the serial killer someone who was capable of Well, in the last movie, the one that came out, I actually saw it.
00:41:56.000That spark of whatever it is that never stays with them until they repeat it over and over again.
00:42:03.000And like an addict, they'll kill for a while and then some will go dry and then some will start again, but they'll need more and more in order to obtain that spark, which never stays with them.
00:42:22.000Now, how do they, I mean, is there a M.O.
00:42:27.000or a signature or something that is a telltale sign?
00:42:31.000I mean, how do these, is there some type of pattern of what develops this type of individual?
00:42:38.000No pattern that we know of psychologically beyond the fact that if we study all the theories of development from biology through psychoanalysis, we know that if you're around babies at all, In that first year of life, in the early life of a child, you could sort of put that kid anywhere and pass him around basically in the supermarket and he won't have a reaction.
00:43:03.000But there's a point in that first year of life that a baby who was so easy to go to other people suddenly becomes clingy to his significant other, the person that's taking care of him, his primary caretaker.
00:43:18.000And we've Because we can't talk to babies and find out that the baby is on some level aware of the fact that they have now become a completely separate human being and they're dependent on the world for survival.
00:43:32.000The serial killer never goes through that stage of development so equally they never develop a separate psychology.
00:43:41.000They can, as I said before, mimic and They can appear to be whole human beings.
00:44:31.000It's the first of the killing usually happens when they're 14, 15, 16 years old.
00:44:37.000Before that time, these are not kids that are truant or conduct disordered or whatever.
00:44:42.000They seem to go through elementary school and the first part of high school all right.
00:44:48.000And then something happens and what we're seeing and thinking about is all the new knowledge we have of how the brain develops and how hormones and brain chemicals interact.
00:45:01.000That's triggered probably by something genetic that we don't know.
00:45:05.000It's certainly not passed down in families.
00:45:08.000They're never violent to their families themselves.
00:45:11.000And then they start the pattern, and the pattern continues until they're caught.
00:45:17.000And so this is how you got somebody living with their wife and children, and then the police find 15 dead bodies in the backyard?
00:47:23.000Henry Lee, in the beginning, was a serial killer, but then he so made people just trust anything he said, because he kept increasing the numbers of people that he killed, because he liked the media.
00:47:38.000He knew that, and he could go on what people call... What about the railway killer?
00:48:26.000I guess we can go back through history, though, and kind of see the archetypal image of the evil man hiding in the shadows that just wants to kill you.
00:48:33.000Absolutely, and part of the book does talk about the history that we've been able to go back to the 13th century.
00:48:40.000And take a look at what previously were described as group killings that turned out to be serial killings and through Germany and South Africa and all through the 30s trying to piece together some of these histories that Uh, were never looked at from the context of serial killings.
00:49:01.000Well, there's an undeniable thread with the mass murderers to death cults and Nazis and devil worship and devil horns and, uh, I mean it's just over and over and over again.
00:49:14.000But, but in the case of serial killers, I know in some of the cases, in the Hillside Strangler and others, they're into 666.
00:49:21.000Do you, do you see this, this occult fascination with serial killers?
00:49:58.000So, literally, they don't have a conscience, they don't have an interface, they're almost just like these reactive... I'd almost say they're not even human.
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00:54:18.000We'll take your calls for our guest, Dr. Helen Morrison.
00:54:22.000She's the author of the book you can get in all major bookstores or Amazon.com, My Life Among the Serial Killers, Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Murderers.
00:54:33.000Doctor, I study governments and I study the elites that serve the larger corporations.
00:54:42.000And time and time again I run up against the fact that the people in control of our society and throughout history those that rise to the highest levels of power don't have a conscience.
00:54:58.000Or in some cases they're sadistic and it's like a game, they enjoy the power.
00:55:02.000We talked about cult leader types and that's the danger with any centralized government.
00:55:08.000But then comparing that to just serial killers throughout history It just brings up more questions, I guess, than it does answers.
00:55:17.000Well, it does, and I think one of the things that you keep pointing out is that what most of those individuals are missing is a conscience.
00:55:26.000The right and wrong, the feeling guilty when they've done something wrong, or that something's gone bad, and the wish to make things right.
00:55:35.000What happens with the serial killer is the conscience is the least of the things that they don't have.
00:55:49.000And that makes them different from the people who are considered the elite who run either governments or programs or schools or whatever.
00:56:00.000Because those individuals generally are out for themselves in the context of whether they want to be noticed as being great leaders or great philanthropists or whatever.
00:56:12.000The serial killer doesn't have any of that.
00:56:53.000They don't even see me as anything other than another two-dimensional whatever object.
00:57:00.000They will very frequently, and I do request this, that because we sit for four to six hours at a time, and we are in a prison setting, What I ask is that they be unshackled and be left to sit as comfortably as they possibly can.
00:57:20.000I mean, I've been locked in death row with these guys and guards have walked away and whatever.
00:57:26.000But I know on some level that prison gives them some kind of a structure.
00:57:32.000That they're not going to need to repeat, and very frequently... And so they're not in hunting mode when they're in the cell with... No, not at all.
00:57:38.000In fact, in prisons they generally become model prisoners.
00:57:42.000They follow the rules, they have the structure to follow, they don't have, and they never have, been violent in prison.
00:57:52.000It's only when they're out there, it's when they're not being, I guess I could use the word sheltered or structured, that they act.
00:58:03.000Have the brains themselves been studied to see if there's any physical?
00:58:08.000We've only been able to get dead brains.
00:58:12.000Brains of the dead and executed serial killers.
00:58:18.000We've never seen anything and we've had these seen by neuropathologists around the world and America's leading pathologists and they find absolutely nothing on a big level or a small level.
00:58:32.000What we want to do is we want to do live brain recordings.
00:59:48.000And, uh, specifically we're going to calls right now that are for her.
00:59:52.000And we're talking about these individuals that don't have a conscience, that are robotic, that just somehow seems like it gives them a connection to reality to kill.
01:00:05.000And I mean, basically from what I've seen of this, it's like some weird hunting instinct, some base level of the brain, where you can look at it spiritually, is that they're demon possessed.
01:00:16.000And, you know, it could be the nice man next door, it could be anybody.
01:00:22.000Doctor, are you ready to go to some calls?
01:01:25.000Let me throw you a bit of a curve here.
01:01:28.000You say that serial killers are obviously a very, you know, very special case, very limited numbers throughout the world.
01:01:38.000What do you think of the idea of screening children Say, you know, in elementary school or high school for psychological disorders, have a mandatory nationwide screening program to do that?
01:02:30.000If we start screening, which also is another federal issue because we have confidentiality laws.
01:02:37.000We are not permitted to release any kind of... Well, Doctor, I'm sure you're aware of the fact that they passed it federally, and they're trying to pass it in legions of states right now.
01:02:49.000Once people realize that anything that could be done in a pre-screening for mental illness... Plus, the drug companies have written the guidelines, so... Yeah, right.
01:03:01.000You say right now it's not going to happen, and you're right.
01:03:06.000These folks work incrementally, and they prepare psychologically, generation to generation, so that what seems unthinkable now, in the future, you'll have databases set up where they'll store away these psychological profiles.
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01:07:14.000Alright, it's our final segment with our guest, the author of My Life Among the Serial Killers, Inside the Minds of the World's Most Notorious Martyrs.
01:07:28.000Just amazing information we covered in the last hour.
01:07:31.000Doctor, before we go back to calls, and others, so many areas that you could enlighten us on, first off, any websites where we can read any of your writings, or any particular things you'd like to plug?
01:07:45.000I just do my work and I try to stay under the radar and the book was the culmination of being annoyed that people were getting all the facts wrong and saying things about serial murderers and mass murderers when they'd never talked to them.
01:08:01.000That was the reason the book was written.
01:08:03.000And to try to clarify a basis of research for ongoing work.
01:08:07.000That was the serious part of the book.
01:08:10.000Let's go ahead now and talk to John in Tennessee.
01:08:17.000Doctor, you mentioned Henry Lucas, who partnered with Otis Toole, who cut the head off Adam Walsh, son of John Walsh, of the America's Most Wanted TV show.
01:09:04.000I know you've got to stay out of jail and you don't want to have an accident on the way home.
01:09:07.000I think she would say that even if you think Bush is those things, he'd be a megalomaniacal maniac.
01:09:13.000Right, he wouldn't ever fit the profile of the serial killer.
01:09:16.000It has nothing to do with my personal life, whether I'm in jail or the IRS audits me or whatever.
01:09:22.000It's that these are research protocols that we follow.
01:09:27.000And they're research protocols that have really shown us that people who are true serial killers Are not humans at all.
01:09:34.000Hold on a second John, this is an important point.
01:09:39.000For people that just joined us, because you did such a good job of it earlier, give us the difference between a Jim Jones and a Charlie Manson type and a Hitler versus a Jeffrey Dahmer.
01:09:51.000The basic bottom line is the three people that you talked about earlier, Jim Jones, are the people who can take a group of individuals And make them do essentially anything that they see as an ideal world.
01:10:06.000Hitler with his Aryans, Jim Jones with his cult-like behaviors, and the serial murderer has absolutely no motive, no goal, and no ideals.
01:11:43.000From what I understand, it's 24 to 30 months is pretty important in terms of development.
01:11:48.000Don't you think the divorce epidemic has an impact and to some degree... Well, as an example, let's talk about these parents that, or even these foster homes, whatever, where they warehouse the little babies in the cribs and don't give them any attention.
01:12:06.000Thirty-three percent of them die before year one, and that research came out of World War II, when they were moving babies out of London to try to save their lives from the Blitz.
01:12:16.000And what happened, and the first child researchers noticed that If babies were left in their cribs for the first year of life and not touched beyond being fed, 33% of them died.
01:12:29.000Development always starts at a zero point.
01:12:32.000You can't go from zero to 24 and think there's nothing in between.
01:12:37.000Those of us who are child psychiatrists who really study development know that If you can teach a baby sign language on some level before a year of life, you certainly have something inside that child that is amenable to learning.
01:12:56.000And we can't say that if nothing happens in the first year of life, then by the 24th month of life, the child is a newly developed creature.
01:13:28.000But not a correlation with a serial killer.
01:13:30.000In fact, in many cases, don't the serial killers come from whole homes?
01:13:34.000Absolutely, and if there was a divorce or something, they still have contact.
01:13:39.000Okay, Todd, does that answer your question?
01:13:48.000No, it's not an attachment disorder and that's where I really become very annoyed with people who don't know what they're doing in the context of development.
01:13:57.000Attachment disorders like autism, developmental disabilities or whatever have absolutely nothing to do with serial murderers.
01:14:05.000And I am defending every autistic parent out there.
01:14:09.000I am defending every parent of a developmentally disabled child who has somehow been pulled into this absolutely useless controversy that their child who has an attachment disorder Can be a serial killer.
01:14:44.000And I would wonder, I would wonder, when you have this level of divorce and this level of detachment, isn't that also leading to things like Ms.
01:15:29.000One is, I read my HIPAA contract and it says that any military commander without my permission can have my medical records without my consent.
01:15:37.000That's a HIPAA contract, that's military.
01:15:42.000Now, I don't mean to sound statistic, I'm trying to be nice, but you said that these people have no emotions and they can't tell right from wrong.
01:15:56.000If I took one, and I had one, you know there are, and I put his hand in a vice and I squeezed him, you reckon he would squeak and get into motion and ask me to stop?
01:16:40.000Doctor, a couple questions and the callers have brought up Something else, as I was listening, the last gentleman saying that no restriction on the access of people's records.
01:16:55.000Now, I question whether or not there is a project... Okay, let me just stop you.
01:17:02.000For those who don't understand what we're talking about, a caller mentioned New Freedom Initiative for psychological testing, and so now we've kind of gone off this rabbit trail, but go ahead.
01:17:12.000Uh, whether or not that, uh, the data is being taken by the criminal elitist and in an attempt to create either mass murders or serial killers.
01:17:23.000And especially using it as a project to try and lobotomize in some way, shape, or form.
01:17:30.000Our various police and our military, because they do seem so robust.
01:17:34.000Well, I will say this, they have this training for the military that does try to create rote responses to killing, automatic responses, an unfeeling disconnect.
01:18:00.000And that's what the training is about, to follow an order and not think about it.
01:18:06.000But if that is continued, and they continue to follow orders, when they are not in that situation, if it is something that is meant to be permanent, No, it's different than somebody who's been brainwashed or hypnotized.
01:18:23.000You know, hypnosis doesn't make you do anything that you wouldn't ordinarily do.
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01:23:39.000Now, a magnetic control freak killer, mass killer, is fully animated and knows exactly what they're doing.
01:23:50.000I wish we would have had more time with the psychiatrist, she's also a medical doctor, to get into the military because, bottom line, you heard her admit to it, this is what they do.
01:24:02.000Look, I'm not going to sit here and attack the military, okay?
01:24:05.000But shaving people's heads, having them march around, not letting them sleep, telling them that after you go through all this, you're the best now, you're part of a brotherhood, that is classical cult programming.
01:24:19.000And it was developed in Germany, well, France really first, but the Germans 250 years ago, in Russia, perfected it, because they had trouble getting their troops up close to kill.
01:24:32.000A lot of times you'd have really tough guys, but they just didn't want to sit their bayonet at people, you know, once they were down.
01:24:39.000And so now the programming, all of it, I mean, and it's gotten psychopathic.
01:24:43.000I mean, the Marine Corps now, and I mean, this has been in the news, folks, has chants about, have the school children gather around, you know, throw the candy on the ground, mow the little bleepers down.
01:25:04.000And they're trying to engineer that thoughtless, mindless, rote response.
01:25:11.000And the same computer programs they used to train the military, they're now using on police.
01:25:16.000And that's why the cop will instantly, without even thinking, pull their gun and shoot you.
01:25:20.000And yes, in a case where somebody's pulling a gun on them, that'll save their lives.
01:25:24.000But you see, they're programmed, just like a dog has been programmed, into a fight and flight scenario, To switch off the thinking process.
01:25:35.000And that's all Hitler talked about with his quote, mind powers and mind wars and mind systems.
01:25:41.000And their top scientists were hired and brought over to this country.
01:25:47.000The system of teaching that has been predominant in public schooling in the last hundred years in this country was developed about 150 years ago in Prussia.
01:25:55.000And it was to create military servants.
01:25:57.000And this is, by the way, in the encyclopedia.
01:27:32.000We run into the sadomasochists, we run into the control freaks, who are creating a society of non-thinking zombies.
01:27:39.000And we look at what she was talking about, shifting off the thinking process, shifting out of the conscience.
01:27:45.000Every mass shooter, every one of these mass killers we've seen in the last decade, has been on the serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
01:27:52.000And they knock out that impulse control, they knock out those normal divides that are in the psyche.
01:28:02.000And the government wants a mass of these people.
01:28:08.000Also in Russia today, and now they're trying to start it in this country, these little military schools where they take the children young and train them how to beat people up and how to shake people down for taxes and how to SWAT team everybody.
01:28:20.000You can take them young and create a trained killer who does not have a conscience.
01:28:26.000But it's different than the serial killer.
01:28:29.000It's very, very serious and it's real.
01:28:34.000And they're creating a dark army that we're going to have to fight in more ways than one.
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01:32:30.000The tales of this are coming up here in just a few minutes with our very special guest who took part in the plan back in 1976.
01:32:37.000But before we do that, Coming up in the third hour, I'm going to play this entire eight-minute clip, the most amazing C-SPAN clip I've ever seen, of the valiant and brave Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, the truly honorable, really throwing it in Rumsfeld's face.
01:32:55.000The video clip of this is on PrisonPlanet.com.
01:33:18.000Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade.
01:33:32.000The President called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business.
01:33:37.000But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children.
01:33:46.000While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox and anthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program.
01:34:00.000Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S.
01:34:02.000government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?
01:34:07.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.
01:34:19.000Fiscal year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing.
01:34:23.000Fiscal year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.
01:34:27.000And DOD is the number one reason why the government can't balance his checkbook.
01:34:33.000The Pentagon has claimed, year after year, That the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.
01:34:41.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other?
01:34:49.000How long have they had those contracts?
01:34:52.000And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?
01:34:55.000Finally, Mr. Secretary, after the last hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four war games on September 11th.
01:35:06.000I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today, and then I do expect the written response to my previous question.
01:35:18.000And that's about two and a half minutes of it, and literally, Rumsfeld looked like he'd been punched in the stomach by Mike Tyson I mean, I could spend 30 minutes on this.
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01:37:37.000Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WZC using commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons.
01:37:44.000The laundry list of terrorist warnings handed to the Bush administration prior to 9-11 makes the President and others look like bumbling idiots or a bunch of conniving criminals responsible for the mass murders at the Twin Towers in Afghanistan and Iraq.
01:37:57.000These are the harsh words of Timothy McNiven, a outspoken critic of the President's handling of 9-11 and a 29-year U.S.
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01:38:07.000He says not only did the Bush administration purposely ignore Al-Qaeda in the months preceding the WTC attacks, but the situation is even more disturbing.
01:38:15.000Considering his military unit way back in 1976 devised a mock terrorist attack of the Twin Towers exactly like what occurred on 9-11, he was told When he was part of this battalion in Germany to come up with a plan specifically with the towers, with Arab hijackers.
01:38:31.000And he came up with the idea of box cutters.
01:38:34.000And again, they take these scenarios and use them in the real world as the public story.
01:38:38.000We have Operation Northwood, the official U.S.
01:38:40.000government plan to carry out 9-11 style attacks.
01:38:43.000Which wasn't just a war game, it was an actual scenario they wanted to carry out.
01:38:47.000We have Project Gladio, bombings for a decade in Europe, blaming it on enemies.
01:38:55.000And we, we, Mr. McNamara has been part of the Berg suit.
01:38:59.000for racketeering against Bush for not just prior knowledge but involvement.
01:39:03.000We have his affidavit sworn in federal court.
01:39:06.000We have his lie detector test that he passed.
01:39:08.000We have the documents and we have links to his website at infowars.com and some of the key documents saved and mirrored at infowars.com.
01:39:17.000Without further ado, I want to thank Timothy McNiven for joining us and Timothy was telling me that he still does work with the government and Of course, he had a massive heart attack, he was telling me, back in 1997, but he's still there fighting and exposing this.
01:39:33.000And, Mr. McNiven, good to have you on with us.
01:39:39.000Just kind of give us the condensed version, your history, what you did, what you do, and why you went public.
01:39:46.000Well, in 1976, when I was stationed in Edoberstein, West Germany, assigned to Sea Batteries, 2nd and 81st Field Artillery.
01:39:59.000I got called to the office one day and was explained I was going to take part in this study.
01:40:07.000And they, you know, Lieutenant Teague was like my training officer, so he gave, you know, a brief description of what the scenario was, and that would be the hijacking of an airliner and crashing it into a 100-story building. and that would be the hijacking of an airliner and And then we were supposed to, you know, think of ways to do this.
01:40:32.000And then a couple days later, Lieutenant Teague then said, well, they've had a change that's been brought down, and the One hundred story building is now going to be the World Trade Center Twin Towers and for the remainder of the study that will be the building of concern as you know he said for the rest of the study and he told us there was no reason
01:41:02.000That we were told it was just, you know, a military order and that's the way it is and nothing further was said about it after that.
01:41:10.000It was just, you know, we were told it was changed and that was it.
01:41:15.000So then, you know, we went through the study and partway through the study I said that, you know, if the security improvements weren't made and we're attacked, then I would do everything I could to tell the American people about this.
01:41:32.000And Lieutenant Teague and Sergeant Milton each grabbed me on one arm and dragged me down the hallway and explained, you know, you're in the military and you can't be saying stuff like that.
01:41:43.000And I explained, well, I wasn't, you know, condemning the people who were part of the study and trying to, you know, prevent an attack, excuse me, an attack from happening, but people in the government who might not, you know, do Do the improvements and just, you know, allow it to happen.
01:42:07.000And, of course, I got dismissed, you know, on that day after making that outburst.
01:42:12.000And then about a week later, I got called back to the office.
01:42:17.000And they had Lieutenant Teague stand next to me.
01:42:21.000And then one of the people higher up, which I wasn't allowed to see this person, I was shielded from seeing him.
01:42:30.000I could hear his voice and he issued me the orders, non-rescindable orders, to bring this information to the American people if, ever, the World Trade Center was attacked in the manner in which we discussed.
01:42:50.000Now why were yourself and some of the others suspicious right off the bat with this scenario?
01:43:04.000I was just emotionally involved in, you know, well, the situation itself, you know, trying to take over an airliner and then crash it into, you know, attack America with it is kind of, you know, an upsetting emotional Situation, I know.
01:43:25.000So they had you basically wargaming and brainstorming and then writing reports?
01:43:33.000Like, Lieutenant Teague told me that we weren't supposed to... well, I didn't need to take notes or... Basically, they just took your ideas then?
01:43:57.000For those that don't know, this is what these different government agencies do.
01:44:02.000They will have large groups of people all over the place just brainstorming because they found it comes up with more original ideas.
01:44:09.000Now, it turned out now, in this scenario, you're in sworn affidavit on this, and I've taken a lot of Tucker and passed it, This has been in federal court, in this racketeering suit, that the drill got specific, or the scenario got specific, down to Arab terrorist hijacking jets to fly them to the World Trade Center with box cutters, is that correct?
01:44:32.000Well, yeah, like, when we were discussing the use, or what weapons to use, you know, I mentioned box cutters because I Seeing, you know, one of the newer plastic candles and I thought, well, that could get through like a metal detector because it was so thin.
01:44:51.000And then Sergeant Middleton said, well, you know, it doesn't even have to go through the metal detector.
01:44:58.000It can be put on through the luggage department.
01:45:01.000And he stated, you know, he had a relative who worked, you know, at an airport luggage area and he described, you know, the loose security there and then Uh, like other times in the study, like if they liked your idea, then they would take you and talk to you individually about it.
01:45:22.000And so, you know, over the issue of box cutters, they chose Sergeant Middleton's information and idea over mine.
01:45:30.000So they, you know, took him aside and questioned him about it.
01:45:36.000Now, why have you gotten involved with this racketeering suit?
01:45:41.000I mean, when did the, Lightbulb go off in your head with, I mean, here's the government basically brainstorming over this in 76.
01:45:52.000Oh, to be, well, I contacted Mr. Berg after I saw, you know, him on TV.
01:45:59.000I saw a little deal about him on TV, you know, filing this lawsuit.
01:46:06.000So I looked him up and then contacted him and then, you know, sent my information.
01:46:13.000To him and a Mr. Jeff Truman from VRPA.
01:46:19.000That's Veterans Equal Rights Protection Advocacy, Inc.
01:46:24.000And he was like the research assistant who did the research to verify my information, you know, before it was used in the lawsuit.
01:46:34.000So like I You know, I didn't have any idea, you know, that lawsuits were being filed until I saw this deal on TV.
01:46:42.000And so I thought, well, it was, here might be a way to get my information into the public because, like I was, had been writing letters and emails to newspapers, magazines, TV stations.
01:47:31.000And I was recovering from another heart attack.
01:47:34.000I had a heart attack, a small heart attack in the end of June of 2001.
01:47:40.000So like I was totally shocked when it happened.
01:47:45.000I kind of went into like a two week period of, you know, not really being able to function totally because I was so shocked by it.
01:47:55.000So, you know, I, I can't say You know, what exactly, you know, the people back on the East Coast did, but, you know, according to what my orders from that study was, that if, you know, the World Trade Center got attacked how we said I was supposed to, you know, bring the study information forward.
01:48:19.000So I can't say what was going through, you know, the people's minds back east.
01:48:31.000And time and time again, it could have been somebody back in the seventies in the Pentagon hearing about a future plan to actually do this, and they may have used their wargaming credentials to order this study to create a trail.
01:48:48.000You know, I You know, I just know the information from, you know, what I personally took part in.
01:48:55.000And that's, you know, what I've been telling people for the last three years.
01:48:58.000You know, the same thing, because that's all the information I have.
01:49:03.000But, you know, and I've also been telling them that the people who have, you know, more information are like the sergeants, like Sergeant Riggs, Sergeant Milton, and officers like Lieutenant Teague and Major DiPero and Colonel Morrison.
01:49:18.000You know, these were the people, you know, the higher ups of the unit, you know, that always get, you know, the better.
01:49:23.000Why was your, why was, before we get back, I want to find out why your unit was chosen for this.
01:49:29.000And of course others were chosen as well.
01:49:33.000This is very important, just one more piece in this huge tapestry that shows this obsession by the government of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center.
01:49:47.000And America being turned into a police state.
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01:53:04.000What the globalists do is they brainstorm And they have their people brainstormed, coming up with different scenarios, and they pick from the scenarios.
01:53:13.000But then it's on file, not as a terrorist plan of our government, but as a study.
01:53:18.000Then they have other documents where they actually call for carrying out the real attacks.
01:53:23.000I mean, official plans to carry them out, the government to carry the attacks out, then be blamed on foreign enemies.
01:53:30.000But then if they get caught during the operation, they can just say, oh, this was part of a drill.
01:53:34.000That's why 9-11 was a national security event.
01:53:38.000On that morning, even before the first planes were supposedly hijacked.
01:54:41.000I you know it seemed kind of unusual but then I thought you know they Like to get, you know, a lot of different people with a lot of different backgrounds to, you know, to get a whole variety.
01:54:57.000So, you know, I don't know how many other people took part, but I imagine, you know, they probably did some in the Navy and Marines and Air Force.
01:55:08.000Like I contacted this one, it was a retired military officer who had a website and I contacted him with, you know, information.
01:55:17.000about the study and he said, well, you know, I'm not all that concerned about just another study.
01:55:26.000So this officer, you know, explained that the reason he wasn't all that interested in my information is that, you know, there were other studies, you know, concerning air travel security too.
01:55:40.000So I guess, you know, there's been, you know, more than just this... And it just so happened to be plastic box cutters and Arab terrorists and the World Trade Center.
01:55:51.000Yeah, this one happened to be kind of like more specific to what actually happened and probably, you know... Well, bottom line, it shows that the government did know such ideas and plans were out there.
01:56:03.000And I really do appreciate you joining us and coming on the show.
01:56:52.000And what they do is, with these studies, is they go out and they do all these war games, all these drills, all these scenarios, and they have hundreds of different groups write up plans, and then these big brains pick and choose the most, you know, I guess, believable story and they use that as a cover story uh... when the globalist really carry out a real operation.
01:58:19.000We'll give you some of the latest developments again on Terry Schaubo Schindler.
01:58:23.000Get into this incredible confrontation or clock cleaning by Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney of General Myers, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
02:00:41.000And September 11th, 1990, and again, there's four different State of the Unions there, but regardless, it's a State of the Union, it's George Bush Sr.
02:00:51.000And I went and checked it out, because I was pointed out there, but he did give that 1990, on the eve of the Gulf War.
02:00:58.000Okay, yeah, that makes sense, because at the transcripts for the 91 speeches, none of them has the quote, out of these troubled times, our fifth objective, a new world order.
02:01:08.000I mean, you're looking at George Bush saying it, I mean, it's a real video clip.
02:01:39.000Did you catch the other things that are wrong in it?
02:01:42.000Well, the other thing was the final jihad.
02:01:44.000I've been doing a lot of speeches in public about these subjects, basically the stuff that you elaborate on, and I try to bring it to the local communities, and people are always blowing up in my face about it.
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02:05:55.000Alright, eight minutes, twelve seconds into this third hour.
02:06:04.000your calls and then we'll get into Jerry Shiloh and well the Cynthia McKinney clip where she confronts Donald Rumsfeld and others it's amazing and I've got some really other very important news as well let's go ahead and talk to Randy in Florida Randy go ahead thanks for holding yeah well I'm at the Florida Capitol and it's all quiet here
02:06:29.000Our governor on the local news today said that his powers aren't as expansive as people would like them to be.
02:06:38.000He can't go beyond what his powers are and he's not going to do it.
02:06:43.000He said that there's a lot of things that go on in society that he doesn't like.
02:06:47.000There's 90,000 abortions a year in his state, but he can't do anything about it.
02:06:53.000No, he's just going to let her die on the vine.
02:06:57.000Well, it's going to be seven days that she hasn't had food and water tonight.
02:07:02.000Well, no, it was seven days, about ten minutes ago.
02:07:05.000Yeah, and so she, of course they say her skin's starting to crack and she's starting to show sunken eyes and signs of dehydration as of As of yesterday, in a really bizarre article that I find very suspicious out of the Associated Press, a man tries to steal a gun to rescue Shimo.
02:07:26.000A man runs into a gun shop, he could have bought the gun, starts with a box cutter, folks, starts breaking glass, and of course the gun shop owner pulls a gun on him.
02:07:35.000He told me if I wasn't on Terry's side, then I wasn't on God's side.
02:07:39.000McKenzie told the Associated Press, McKenzie said he then pointed his own gun at Mitchell.
02:07:45.000Well, that's just, you know, but, you know, there's thousands of people, you know, there's all those churches down there in the St.
02:07:49.000said, "Bitchables later arrested the parking lot and was scheduled to appear in court." I mean, this is just-- - Well, that's just, you know, but there's thousands of people, you know, there's all those churches down there in the St. Pete Clearwater area.
02:08:05.000All they have to do is just get a human shield and go in there peaceably and surround her and take her out of there to the hospital. - Well, I think if you did that, I think the police would start shooting you.
02:08:16.000This is like Tiananmen Square in America now.
02:08:18.000They're very afraid of us storming them, like just happened over in the former Eastern Bloc yesterday.
02:08:24.000They know they're criminals, and so they're afraid of us.
02:08:26.000Well, then the whole world would know just what we have here.
02:08:30.000If government will not protect innocent life, then what good is it?
02:08:33.000How many people have been arrested trying to go in so far?
02:08:36.000Well, I'm not sure what the number is.
02:08:39.000I know it's a lot of men, women, children trying to bring her glasses of water.
02:08:43.000The police arrest them and throw the book at them.
02:08:46.000Well, our gutless wonder governor and his brother, you know, if that's compassionate conservative Christians, I'd just as soon be an atheist.
02:08:57.000You know, and if that's what they call pro-life, well, I'm sure Terry would take issue with that.
02:09:17.000Refuses to order feeding tube restored.
02:09:19.000A federal judge in Tampa today again refused to order the Terry Shivo's feeding tube be reinserted.
02:09:24.000Leaving the parents of the brain-damaged Florida woman with few legal options as they fight to keep her alive.
02:09:29.000District Judge James Whitmore ruled that Shivo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, cannot establish a substantial likelihood of success on the merits of their case.
02:09:38.000Shivo's parents filed notice that they'll take the case to the federal appeals court in Atlanta that rejected their previous appeal.
02:09:47.000Judge denied Florida bid to take custody of Shiloh.
02:09:51.000The court denied the governor's request for family and child protective services.
02:09:57.000I mean, if they think somebody spanked a child, even though that's not illegal, they'll throw no warrants, no nothing, come grab your child.
02:10:06.000But man, when you got a woman with all this evidence of foul play swirling around, a woman who just a few years ago was saying mommy and help me and Mommy?
02:10:18.000And could eat food, and these government neurologists and people they get up there on TV, they go, well, brain damage.
02:10:25.000People in vegetative states could eat, and they could say, Mommy.
02:10:30.000I mean, it's pretty soon, I guess they'll just say, I'm a vegetable.
02:10:33.000You know, I could sit here and talk 90 miles a second, but maybe I'm in a vegetative state.
02:10:41.000You know, I mean, in this world of la-la land, And I've got the shocking affidavit from Terry's nurse, and there's another nurse too, as well.
02:10:50.000Before me, the Undersign Authority personally appeared.
02:10:54.000Clara, I.R.R.N., who began duty sworn, deposes and says.
02:13:11.000I mean, it's going all over the country.
02:13:14.000I know of hundreds of cases, it's already that bad.
02:13:17.000But see, the general public doesn't know that, so they'll get you warmed up for it with Terry Chivo Schindler.
02:13:24.000And then pretty soon you'll be, you could be doing, you know, double back flips or slam dunking basketballs on a, you know, registered court.
02:14:01.000And they've already set up this little greedy, yuppie thing in the world of health clubs and tennis and, you know, creaming the skin and getting skin peels and just totally self-centered.
02:14:38.000The pie in real economics and human systems is as big as we want to make it.
02:14:43.000The levels of service and what we get are what we demand.
02:14:49.000And bottom line we've got, we're going to have the oldest population in the world very soon with the baby boomers about to, they're already retiring.
02:14:56.000In the next 20 years, you know, all these self-serving little twits You're going to be in the position, and just like in the Netherlands and Holland where you're going, may I please have food?
02:15:09.000Sorry, the bioethics board says that your quality isn't good.
02:15:20.000And your little yuppies of yuppies of yuppies, your children will be all partying and taking their recreational drugs and You know, doing the virtual reality and got their wire head chip hooked up and, eh, whatever, yeah, Ma just wasn't worth it, Ma's life wasn't worth it.
02:15:39.000The point is, is that this is how Hitler started out.
02:15:42.000Was getting rid of the retarded and the quadriplegics and the... That's how it always starts, the eugenics, the brave new world.
02:15:51.000And just the exercising lies about Terry.
02:16:32.000I mean, that's how mentally ill we are as a culture.
02:16:35.000I mean, if you can say babies aren't babies, this is the double thing.
02:16:41.000You know, somebody goes out and kills a woman who's seven months pregnant, and then he gets a double murder conviction for killing the baby.
02:16:48.000But then, We kill 50 something million, what is it, 54 million babies now?
02:16:55.000Hundreds of thousands of them, we're talking that could have been adopted.
02:16:58.000A woman could have just gone ahead and had a cesarean, or gone ahead and had the child vaginally, and they could have given the child up for adoption.
02:17:25.000Imagine somebody teleporting themselves into the future from 200 years ago, where we've killed 15 million of our children, and a lot of you've killed your children, and so you can't face it and what you did was wrong, so you are now part of the forces of death.
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02:22:45.000Doesn't sound the best, but you know, it's decent.
02:22:48.000So people in droves, I mean, I'm getting emails, I'm getting the calls, they just don't think they can listen anymore.
02:22:53.000This show's the biggest on the internet, internet-wise, according to Shoutcast and others, and we're still number one, but this week since they've done this, it's dropping.
02:23:02.000And people just don't know, and it's kind of a catch-22 because they don't know they can tune in because they're getting kicked off, so they're not hearing this right now.
02:23:09.000So, I hope the network figures this out quickly, because I don't have time to deal with it, okay?
02:23:15.000I can't do all the logistics on top of it either.
02:25:14.000On your site, there was a link, I can't remember who it was from, but it referred to Rumsfeld's Special Operations Team, because the FBI and CIA can't really help them out domestically.
02:25:25.000And the site said that that hit squad, I guess that's the name, they're kind of modeled after the Nazi SS.
02:25:32.000Yeah, that was Steve Quayle talking about that, and that hit squad's been in the New York Times.
02:25:52.000These guys with 23 convictions under their belt.
02:25:56.000They continually let these guys out and they commit these crimes and then they want to come out with a whole onslaught of new laws, new legislation.
02:26:04.000Meanwhile, the corporations that they support and they give all the big contracts are kidnapping children by the tens of thousands.
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02:31:08.000I've spent 11 years in the media and TV news, and this is not to take anything away from all that's going on with the Schiavo case, but I'm sure you've noticed in the past, whenever they have a story that's dominating the airtime the way it is, it's usually that something big is in the works, or something is about to happen, and they're just... Yeah, a free trade area, the Americas, or a big terrorist attack, or just a whole host of issues.
02:31:34.000I was wondering if you saw on the American Psychological Association's own website, they were acknowledging a thank you from the Bush administration for keeping New Freedom public.
02:31:48.000And if they really think that that has anything to do with freedom, forcibly people to take tests and to take drugs, They're the ones that are coercing everybody.
02:32:51.000Supplemental appropriations bills and H.R. 1268.
02:32:54.000Which passed either March 15th or March 16th.
02:32:57.000And now they're putting expansions of national ID cards, amnesty into it.
02:33:01.000I mean, Bush says, we should stop these people on their own land with binoculars showing the illegal aliens in Arizona, and I want to legalize the illegal aliens.
02:33:30.000But it's sitting in the... Of course, Ron Paul was one of, like, two Republicans who voted against it.
02:33:34.000Cynthia McKinney, of course, voted against it.
02:33:36.000But it's sitting in the Senate Appropriations Committee right now.
02:33:40.000And given the lopsided numbers in the House, actually, I think our best hope Of course, we need 41 Senators to sustain a filibuster.
02:33:47.000I don't think we got that, but it's worth a try.
02:33:50.000If we all call, or Senators call, my Senator who, of course, supports the war, Harry Reid, the Democratic leader.
02:33:56.000If everybody would call his office, tell him to filibuster this bill, because that's how we're going to end this war, by cutting off the funding.
02:35:07.000It seems to me that a judgment is only as good as its enforcement.
02:35:09.000So I appeal to a community or communities around this country to offer to hire with better pay and benefits the officers that are guarding Terry.
02:35:20.000If that community should decide to... But the police just follow orders, okay?
02:35:26.000And if they told the average cop to put babies in incinerators, they'd do it.
02:36:59.000Yeah, but the lying so-called conservative talk show hosts lie to their poor, pathetic listeners and tell them it's to stop illegal, so they believe it.
02:37:05.000I know that when I've told other people about it, they've been very upset.
02:37:11.000Yeah, well, look, Bush knows that 80-plus percent of Americans are against open borders, but he says we need to get rid of the borders.
02:38:27.000And Rumsfeld just lies and says, oh, that was one person.
02:38:30.000We have all the mainstream news articles posted, it was not!
02:38:33.000Then they bring up the war game drills, and Myers, it's just, they look so guilty.
02:38:39.000You know, like the cat that's caught with a canary in its mouth.
02:38:44.000And Rumsfeld, that arrogant creature, I was about to call him a prison term, that arrogant creature finally faced with the facts, You see him for what the little ringwraith that he is.
02:39:10.000Mr. Secretary, I watched President Bush deliver a moving speech at the United Nations in September 2003, in which he mentioned the crisis of the sex trade.
02:39:24.000The President calls for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business.
02:39:29.000But at the very moment of that speech, DynCorp was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children.
02:39:38.000While all of this was going on, DynCorp kept the Pentagon contract to administer the smallpox, manthrax vaccines, and is now working on a plague vaccine through the Joint Vaccine Acquisition Program.
02:39:52.000Mr. Secretary, is it policy of the U.S.
02:39:54.000government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls?
02:40:00.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.
02:40:12.000Fiscal year 1999, 2.3 trillion missing.
02:40:16.000Fiscal year 2000, 1.1 trillion missing.
02:40:20.000And DOD is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook.
02:40:25.000The Pentagon has claimed year after year that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.
02:40:33.000My second question, Mr. Secretary, is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other?
02:40:41.000How long have they had those contracts?
02:40:44.000And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?
02:40:48.000Finally, Mr. Secretary, after the last hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four war games on September 11th.
02:40:58.000I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I've put to you today, and then I do expect the written response to my previous question.
02:41:10.000All right, now again, why do they say trillions and trillions are missing?
02:41:17.000Because, why do they hire White, who ran the Enron scam with the fake computers that legislators and members of Congress went and saw with the fake energy trading?
02:41:51.000And then listen to Rumsfeld, how he cavalier, in a cavalier fashion, oh well, we put people in the penalty box when they've done stuff like this.
02:41:59.000And he just, imagine if somebody else went and kidnapped one child, what would happen to them?
02:42:03.000They'd never get out of prison, and they shouldn't.
02:42:04.000But oh well, you know, they're bad, and we fixed them, and... Please continue.
02:42:17.000First, the answer to your first question is no, absolutely not.
02:42:21.000The policy of the United States government is clear, unambiguous, and opposed to the activities that you described.
02:42:32.000The second question, Well, how do you explain the fact that Dyncor and its successor companies have received and continue to receive government contracts?
02:42:46.000I would have to go and find the facts, but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts.
02:42:55.000And there are times that corporations do things they should not do, in which case they tend to be suspended for some period.
02:43:02.000There are times then that under the laws and the rules and regulations passed by the Congress and implemented by the executive branch, that corporations can get off of Out of the penalty box, if you will, and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government.
02:43:20.000They're generally not barred in perpetuity.
02:43:23.000This contract, this company, was never in the penalty box.
02:43:28.000If you could proceed to my second question, please.
02:43:32.000The second question... I've forgotten what the second question was.
02:44:04.000And how much money have we spent on it?
02:44:07.000In general, we spend about $20 billion in the Department of Information Technology Systems.
02:44:13.000The accounting systems are part of that.
02:44:16.000I can get you the exact number for the record of what we spend on our current, what we call legacy systems, and those that we're moving toward.
02:44:49.000On your first question, I'm advised by Dr. Chu that it was not the corporation that was engaged in the activities you characterized, but I'm told it was an employee of the corporation.
02:45:07.000Well, if you can give me information... I'm sure you are interested in all of the information that I have, and I'll be more than happy to provide it to you.
02:45:40.000We'll get back on both of the first two questions, but the Congresswoman has raised the other question twice now, and I'd like to have General Myers respond, because you mentioned it in the last hearing, and I think it would be helpful to get the answer, even though we're on red, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman.
02:46:12.000The question was, we had four war games going on on September 11th, and the question that I tried to pose before the Secretary had to go to lunch was whether or not the Activities of the four war games going on on September 11th actually impaired our ability to respond to the attacks.
02:46:36.000The answer to the question is no, did not impair our response.
02:46:39.000In fact, General Eberhardt, who was in the commander of North American Aerospace Defense Command, as he testified in front of the 9-11 Commission, I believe, I believe he told them that it enhanced our ability to respond, given that NORAD didn't have the overall responsibility for responding to the attacks today.
02:47:51.000Otherwise, it would take somewhere between 30 minutes and a couple of hours to fill those positions, those battle spaces, with the right staff officers.
02:47:58.000Mr. Chairman, begging your indulgence, was September 11 declared a National Security Special Event Day?
02:48:21.000The chair would ask the gentleman... They all look like, again, Sylvester Cott with a Tweety Bird in the mouth.
02:48:30.000I mean, the video is so much more powerful.
02:48:35.000Notice how they just glaze over those drills of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon at the exact same time it was actually happening.
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02:52:47.000And it's just, oh well, I think we put them in the penalty box for that.
02:52:51.000But the media will go, oh, one child's been kidnapped, oh, it's horrible!
02:52:55.000Which it is, but they know how to have one person as a tragedy, ten thousand as a statistic.
02:53:02.000And so this is the globalists, this is our controllers, this is the world they're building.
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