Alex Jones and Jack Bluth join host Alex Jones live from Austin, Texas to discuss a variety of topics including: Big Brother, Wall Street, the stock market, Iran, and much more. Alex Jones is a radio host on the Global Conspiracy Theories Network and host of the Alex Jones Show on the WDFA Radio Network.
00:00:49.000Of course, we've got to stop meeting like this.
00:00:50.000Now, the funny thing is that it takes two of us to equal one Alex Jones.
00:00:54.000And I think even then, we are going to be somewhat challenged.
00:00:57.000We're going to come up a little bit short, but what the heck, we're going to give it our best try, and with the excellent audience and callers that Alex has, we're going to do terrific.
00:01:07.000There's a lot going on today, isn't there, Jack?
00:01:10.000Well, you know, I've got to be honest with you.
00:01:13.000I'm sitting here, I was just listening to a neocon on the radio, Laura Ingrate, as I like to call her.
00:01:19.000You ever get a chance to check her out, Erskine?
00:01:25.000You know, it's about like having a root canal.
00:01:27.000Yes, and the discussion for about the last two hours was Natalie Main.
00:01:32.000You know, of course, she's from the Dixie Chicks, and she made the comment that she was ashamed to be from Texas because George W. Bush was from Texas, and she wanted her audience in Europe to know that, of course, just because she's from Texas doesn't mean she supports George W. Bush.
00:01:46.000Now, being in Texas, Erskine, I can sympathize with that a little bit.
00:01:52.000Last night she was on Bill Maher on HBO, and the two-hour topic on this neocon show was the left and right treatment of the military.
00:02:01.000How did the military feel about Bill Clinton as opposed to George W. Bush?
00:02:06.000This was complete with, of course, a number of planted calls from our wonderful military overseas, who is protecting us from the Goldstein terrorists.
00:02:15.000And we've read a lot of those letters that are on the internet that are coming from people overseas, which also have been planted letters, which is ridiculous!
00:02:24.000I've never seen such a controlled news media, especially when you're talking about things like embedded reporters.
00:02:31.000That term just grates on me, to be embedded reporters.
00:02:43.000It's in a cocoon when it comes to news.
00:02:46.000We just are not getting the news in America today.
00:02:50.000That's why GCN programming has skyrocketed over the last few years.
00:02:56.000Well, Gerskin, if you want any news other than what the Cardinals are doing at the Vatican today, or at the Sistine Chapel, then I hope you're tuning into GCN, because if you're trying to get your news any other way, you're going to be hearing about the Pope, or the next Pope, for the next several days.
00:03:12.000One of the critical stories that we talked about last week, and I found this to be absolutely critical, is what's happening economically.
00:03:21.000We had the stock market down triple digits for the third consecutive day, off 420 points.
00:04:03.000He's going to remake things like Social Security, which like Wall Street, as you know, Erskine, is a Ponzi scheme.
00:04:10.000But that gave a new meaning to TGIF on Friday.
00:04:13.000I'll tell you, if we had one more day last week, investors would have really seen the balloon pop.
00:04:17.000So, we'll have to look and see how that goes today.
00:04:20.000But I just don't understand, Erskine, why people haven't woken up to the fact that Wall Street is controlled, and the little investor is the one that always gets it in the end.
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00:09:21.000Paul Joseph Watson, Jack Blood, and of course, yours truly, Erskine.
00:09:25.000Yeah, Papal Hopeful is a former Hitler youth.
00:09:29.000So the wartime past of a leading German contender to succeed John Paul II may return to haunt him as Cardinals begin voting in the Sistine Chapel, and it's happening right now.
00:09:39.000To choose the leader for one billion Catholics, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, whose strong defense of Catholic orthodoxy has earned him a variety of names, including the Enforcer, the Panzer Cardinal, and God's Rottweiler, is expecting the poll around 40 votes in the first ballot as conservatives rally behind him.
00:09:58.000Unknown to many members of the church, however, is Ratzinger's past includes a brief membership in the Hitler Youth Movement and wartime service with the Germany Anti-Aircraft Unit.
00:10:07.000You know what this reminds me of a little bit, Erskine?
00:10:10.000I can see the pattern developing here, with Pope John Paul II being a former employee With IG Farben selling the chemicals that were actually killing people during the Nazi regime.
00:10:22.000Right, he was selling Xylon B there for a while, and if you really want to read a great book, it's out called In God's Name.
00:10:30.000It tells what happened to John Paul I.
00:10:32.000There's also a new video out called Illuminati, which shows the Soviet and actually the German Illuminati infiltrating into the Roman Catholic hierarchy.
00:10:46.000But when you're looking at this and you're looking at the fact that Carl or John Paul II sold the Zylam Bee, and then you've got Ratzinger coming up, you've got our entire New World Order just coming right around together again, don't you?
00:11:01.000Well, apparently you have to be a Nazi in order to be the Pope.
00:11:04.000Now perhaps, I'm just going to take a shot here, perhaps Arnold Schwarzenegger might be a candidate for Pope someday.
00:11:30.000Unfortunately, united against the United States.
00:11:34.000Because of its economic situation and what's been happening with that, the leaders of China announced that Bushonomics Is a de facto military threat to the rest of the world, and we've got a new war footing that is starting up and new alliances forming all over the entire world.
00:11:55.000We're in deep trouble, economically, inside the country, outside the country.
00:12:01.000I would consider this the major threat to America is the economic threat.
00:12:06.000Jack, have you heard anything about what's going on with the Minutemen down in Tucson?
00:12:10.000Because I know that this is a major, actually, Tombstone, this is a major consideration.
00:12:16.000All sorts of stories about the Arizona governor is trying to stop them.
00:12:21.000We've got all sorts of stories about how embarrassing this is proving to the administration that is sending INS border guards over to Iraq because we're so short on troops.
00:12:34.000Well, I think in this case, no news is good news.
00:12:35.000We have 20 million illegals in the United States, which is certainly affecting us economically.
00:12:44.000Well, I think in this case, no news is good news.
00:12:47.000They've done a great job, I think, bringing attention and publicity to a dire matter, and that is the control of our border and illegal immigration and everything that goes along with that.
00:12:57.000So, we really have to commend the Minutemen for doing that in the face of all opposition.
00:13:01.000But, Erskine, I'm proud to say, I think it's a good thing that no bad news is coming out of Arizona right now.
00:13:07.000In fact, we're going to try to do an update with somebody on the ground there in Arizona, one of the Minutemen, in my broadcast following Alex Jones today.
00:13:15.000It looks like everything's going well, and they're extremely well organized.
00:13:18.000They know how to play the media, and I think that that's the thing that's making this succeed.
00:13:24.000And they're staying away from any violence, anything, even hints of violence.
00:13:28.000They're staying completely away from it.
00:13:30.000They're playing it absolutely as clean as possible.
00:13:33.000Also, the other interesting story is how they found that the cameras that cost millions of dollars to set up, that they set up years ago so the border guards could check everything, cameras have never worked.
00:13:49.000Yeah, I mean, they like to let us think that the whole area there around the border, Erskine, is censored and wired and that border control can be there in a second.
00:13:57.000What they hesitate to tell us, of course, is that most of these border patrol, and I don't want to, you know, say all border patrol agents are bad, but a lot of them are on the take, a lot of them are, of course, working for the powers that be, and this is the agenda as we know it.
00:14:10.000I think we should thank the people at Ranch Rescue because Because of some of the mistakes they made, I believe the Minutemen learned from those mistakes and have been able to co-opt this into a much more positive experience.
00:14:23.000I've had Jack Foote on, who was with Ranch Rescue, and these people were fighting for their lives, economically and literally fighting for their lives, and the number of... Talk about a war on terrorism, where one of the main issues that I'm concerned about is how America is losing the Constitution, how we're becoming a police state, as Alex shows so very well in his videos, and
00:14:48.000The main issue is we have lost our Constitution in the name of saving us from the terrorist threat.
00:15:13.000I'm sure you've interviewed or heard about Mary Schneider, the former Homeland Security whistleblower and adjudications officer, who has testified that these sham marriages were put together literally right under the nose and with, I guess, the cooperation of our government, To bring in these Muslim terrorists before and after 9-11.
00:15:33.000And the thing that I want people to understand is that our intelligence or our police community here in the United States always seem to be incompetent at just the right time.
00:15:43.000But yet, how have they stopped all of this terrorism for the last four years with these wide open borders and these sham marriages now coming in here that they're not stopping?
00:15:59.000Well, they even had a report on CBS, who's well-known for its hard-hitting documentaries.
00:16:05.000This report was incredible, though, because they were showing how that little towns were getting a hundred million dollars for next to nothing.
00:16:15.000Other places, how they were blowing it.
00:16:17.000They even had in Washington, D.C., they were giving money from Homeland Security to sanitation workers to take a Dale Carnegie course.
00:16:30.000So you're talking about a nation where we've got a debt ratio that at the start of the Bush regime was 78% now it's 308% throwing money away.
00:16:43.000Now I'm not saying that the Dale Carnegie course is bad, it's a wonderful course, but we shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars to send sanitation workers to a, and I've got nothing against sanitation workers, but not to a Dale Carnegie course!
00:16:56.000Now, when you've got a debt ratio of 308%, according to the IMF, if it's over 200%, then you are deconstructed third world nation state.
00:17:30.000And if the NFL goes pay-per-view, what does America care about?
00:17:35.000Well, I think we're beginning to understand because you can see it in the listenership going up on Alex's program and all the programs on GCN.
00:17:46.000My goodness, with a debt ratio of 308 percent, they're about ready to turn the lights out!
00:17:52.000Well, look, I mean, you were talking about Homeland Security money, and they found, as you say, a lot of pork in this, but the bigger problem with this federal money and assistance to the states is that it amounts to extortion, bribery, and blackmail in many cases.
00:18:05.000I mean, if you want to, you know, fund your police department on a standard level that you normally would have a few years ago, you've got to take this Homeland Security money and everything that goes with it.
00:18:15.000And that's why we're seeing here in Texas these new legislation coming out to track and trace every car.
00:18:22.000Embedded RFID in the inspection stickers on every car here.
00:19:17.000But Erskine, we're in a war, we're fighting Al-Qaeda, we're fighting international war on terror, we're spreading democracy around the world.
00:19:23.000This is very expensive, and I know Americans enjoy paying for this.
00:19:27.000I'm sure this is what they thought as they were filing their tax returns last week, is, I'm so happy to pay this money to fight this phony war on terrorism.
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00:24:10.000Like the Pink Panther, we're going in and discovering what's happening in America today and letting you know as opposed to the major media, which I know CNN has become very good at.
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00:24:44.000You want to find out what's really going on, you've got to get a copy of Martial Law, The Rise of the Police State.
00:24:58.000And this was filmed, of course, on the ground during the Republican National Coronation of George W. Bush last summer.
00:25:05.000Boy, I was just talking to you on the break about this, Erskine, and it was just amazing to me how, you know, as I was relating to you, I was questioned by Secret Service several times.
00:25:14.000One time for sweating, which I know is definitely an act of terrorism.
00:25:20.000After walking up 10 floors of Madison Square Garden.
00:25:23.000But the ironic thing of course, and this kind of fits into what we were just talking about with border security, is that it would have been very easy to perform a suicide bombing during that coronation.
00:25:36.000So it really showed me that they wanted to purvey a message to the American people and of course to us, the media, That there was a police state, and that they were going to control our every move, and if we got out of line one little bit, we were going to go to Gitmo on the Hudson.
00:25:51.000But the reality was, when you were on the ground, if you really wanted to perform some act of terrorism, it was really your passion.
00:25:57.000If you wanted to do that to get your hundred virgins, you could have easily done that in New York.
00:26:14.000There really are, and that's one of the keys, that there are more of us than them, and between what's happening economically, Mr. Bush's drop in power, the idea of a martial law coming into the United States looks more and more plausible.
00:26:27.000Get the videos, you'll see what's possibly happening.
00:26:31.000Alex documents everything, martial law, rise of the police state.
00:26:35.000Also go up to PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, and you know what I think's a good idea?
00:26:40.000is to get some of the t-shirts that Alex has.
00:26:43.000He has them for both men and women, because if you get one of those t-shirts, you can identify each other, and then you can show people, we're really understanding what's going on.
00:26:52.000Let people know that you're understanding, because if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
00:26:58.000Now, next hour, Paul Joseph Watson is going to join us.
00:27:01.000Let's go immediately to the lines and take a few calls.
00:27:04.000John in Florida, welcome to the Alex Jones radio program, John.
00:27:19.000Hey, I want to say I used to listen to Alex's show thanks to a Christian broadcast station in the area here at the Panhandle of Florida, but they haven't carried him, so I was just calling in because it's been a long time since I've heard his programming and I wanted to say hi to Alex.
00:27:42.000He is on an investigative report today.
00:27:45.000How are you listening to the program, if you haven't heard him for a while?
00:27:48.000Well, let me tell you, I've heard both of you guys, thanks to a micro-broadcaster, and spoken to you respectively at different times over the last three years or so, but right now...
00:27:58.000I just took a stab at calling the GCN over the phone, and I've been listening for the better part of the last half hour or so.
00:28:07.000John, what do you think about the pope, the cardinal that's leading in the race to be pope, being part of Hitler Youth?
00:28:47.000Oskin, since 1963 I've been an enemy of the state.
00:28:50.000When I was in the military and I was an MP and I spoke up In regards to Posse Comitatus along the border, I was challenged, I was told, oh, Posse Comitatus can't use the military against civilians.
00:29:13.000Wow, that long ago, and then in the 1950s, President Eisenhower had what he called Operation Wetback, which you'd never name something that again, sent a million back, but what do they not understand?
00:29:25.000They're not migrant workers, they're illegal, John!
00:29:28.000They had this problem a long time, and people seem to say, oh, you can't use the military against civilians.
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00:33:01.000The fascist police state is marching on relentlessly, but we can stand up against it.
00:33:12.000We can stand up against it with education.
00:33:14.000We can stand up against it by telling people, showing where we stand with the t-shirts, by going to PrisonPlanet.com, Infowars.com, and getting the video, making copies of the video, sharing the videos, Especially, Martial Law, Rise of the Police State.
00:33:57.000I mean, this film is three films in one.
00:34:02.000So you're literally buying three key films on three different subjects.
00:34:06.000The police state, 9-11, and of course the fake left and right paradigm by getting martial law rise to the police state.
00:34:12.000So, literally, you should be paying three times more, though.
00:34:16.000You're just getting three times more bang for your buck.
00:34:18.000And these films, of course, really wake people up.
00:34:20.000Erskine, we used to have movie showings Up in Providence, Rhode Island, where hundreds of people would show up at a theater and would sell out the theater showing Alex Jones films and people would bring, you know, their relatives and their co-workers and their friends who were, I guess, neophytes.
00:34:34.000They didn't know a whole lot about all of this, Erskine, and the New World Order, and after watching these films, I mean, they're just as educated as myself or most of the listeners, I hate to say.
00:35:07.000Now, one of the things that I wanted to mention to you, calling from B.C., is that here you've got the United States who has thrown away every treaty concerning softwood lumber.
00:35:19.000Now, a lot of people in the States don't know what that is, but it's a softwood lumber deal, and this is part of NAFTA, and they have discouraged, they have not paid for it, they are just going against what every court has ruled, and yet your prime minister joins Vicente Fox and yet your prime minister joins Vicente Fox down in Texas, and he signs a new expanded free trade area of the Americas deal.
00:35:55.000Well, you're right, and it's very offensive that they've blown off every, you know, uh... treaty of that uh... them You know, it's just, it's a bullying tactic, and I'm convinced it's run by men so crooked that when they die, they'll have to screw them into the ground.
00:36:15.000You got that one right, but I'm looking at that, I'm thinking, Paul Martin, why would he sign such a deal when they've broken the other treaties the United States has?
00:36:25.000Free trade has been bad for America, it's been bad for Canada, it's been bad for Mexico, but great for the corporations.
00:36:34.000I wanted to ask where you think the New World Order is going to take policy in the next few short years from now, and I trust that it's being run by high-level masons and devil worshippers.
00:36:50.000And I just wonder where you think they're going to take policy say in the next 18 months to two years and how far along are we?
00:37:01.000Well, you're talking about the Masons and Devil Worshippers.
00:37:04.000You're not very far off because all you have to do is look at Alex Jones' videos where he went into Bohemian Grove and showed who was doing it.
00:37:11.000All you have to do is look at the Gannon Affair and what's going on in the White House today with the number of gays in the White House and draw the comparison with that and the Nazis.
00:37:23.000And Jack, where do you think it's going to go?
00:37:28.000I appreciate the call, Brock, and I'm from the Pacific Northwest, so I feel your pain.
00:37:33.000I believe this is one of the things that is distracting because we're looking for the next big 9-11.
00:37:38.000We're constantly being fear-mongered by the establishment media and by the powers that be that the next big Al-Qaeda attack, the next big 9-11 attack is coming.
00:37:48.000That puts a lot of our listeners in fear that martial law and World War III will follow, and why those are scenarios we could certainly go into, but I don't believe they're the primary scenarios.
00:37:58.000I believe that it's a Fabian Socialism scenario of incrementalism, and that's why it's so important to get up and stop all these little bills and little laws and embedded legislation of control and the police state while they happen, because they're doing it to us incrementally, and as you say, why people are
00:38:16.000Downing their six-pack of beer and watching the playoffs on cable TV, you know, this incrementalism moves forward and that's how they want to do it, I believe, Erskine, and that's why it's so important that we get people out there standing up for their rights, standing up for themselves and their families on a daily basis.
00:38:34.000I think personally, I think we're being attacked.
00:38:37.000The next major attack or the major attack coming is going to be one of the corporate fascism.
00:38:42.000I think it's going to be one of economic.
00:38:45.000We may have another major occurrence and I think biological, but I think that's what's happening.
00:38:51.000And I also believe that Ultimately, it's going to be for spiritual control.
00:39:22.000The reaction is a large number of countries also denouncing China's lack of progress on human rights at the Luxembourg meeting.
00:39:29.000And the solution, and this comes right from this German foreign minister, the big challenge, he says, according to Jacques Fischer, is to integrate emerging world powers such as China and India into the international state system in order to prevent any armed clashes.
00:39:44.000That sounds an awful lot like the New World Order to me, Erskine.
00:40:23.000It wasn't covered very much, but it kind of dovetails into what you've been talking about this morning.
00:40:28.000There was an article on the Casper Wyoming Star that I saw on the internet about that Operation Falcon, where they rounded up the 10,000 criminals nationwide last week.
00:40:37.000Well, they had a quote in there from the head of the State National Guard about how successful the operation was.
00:40:43.000That link has disappeared this morning.
00:40:46.000And I was wondering, too, what you guys thought that this was practice for, for another type of mass roundup.
00:40:54.000Oh, it's definitely setting the stage for future roundups, and a lot of people are speculating that many people that were rounded up were on this so-called red and blue list.
00:41:03.000These are enemies of the state, seditious Americans, people that criticize the government, or God forbid, look George W. Bush in the eye.
00:41:10.000But ultimately, here's the debate, here's the argument, because a lot of people Uh, would say, look, they've rounded up a number of criminals, murderers, rapists, uh, bad people we don't want in our society.
00:41:21.000And while that might be true in a small number of these 10,000 rounded up, uh, you know, probably we did want them on the streets, the majority of them were for minor offenses.
00:41:32.000I mean, you could get a felony these days by having two drinks and driving your car.
00:41:36.000And so now if you owe the state, and this is what people on the West Coast know very well, if you owe the state any money, you become public enemy number one.
00:41:43.000And the guy that does the robbery or the rape, he goes out while you stay in jail until you pay off your fines.
00:41:50.000Hey, how about that lady, Jack, who they picked up off of the cruise ship because she dropped a candy wrapper a year before in Yellowstone Park?
00:41:58.000I mean, if you owe the state anything, they'll go after you, if they really want to, for any minor offense.
00:42:05.000That's what living in California is all about, and I see this happening now all over the United States.
00:42:09.000This is a very dangerous precedent, and though we do want criminals off the street, and dangerous and violent criminals off the street, and somehow hopefully even rehabilitated without being slave labor for Wackenhut, We certainly need to keep our minds open and our eyes open, Erskine, and make sure that these roundups are highly criticized, that they are investigated, that we know exactly everyone who was picked up and why, so that we, the people, can monitor the government.
00:42:36.000Well, there was another point to make, too, on Rens' site.
00:42:39.000They had an article, I believe it was from the AP, that was saying that they let one million illegal aliens go from the jails.
00:42:49.000If you're caught up on that one, I've got to find it again, but pick them up on one hand and drop them off on the other.
00:42:55.000Well, if you're an illegal alien, we have a job for you.
00:42:57.000There's a lot of jobs that Americans don't want, such as $17 an hour roofing jobs.
00:43:02.000These are jobs Americans don't want, according, again, to the powers that be.
00:43:07.000I interviewed both Gray Davis and Jerry Brown when I was up in Boston, and I was going to And this is the company line they gave me about these illegal immigrants.
00:43:15.000They're doing the jobs that Americans don't want to do.
00:43:18.000They're just not used to anybody confronting them on that issue.
00:43:21.000And when I gave them the facts, they recoiled significantly from that stance.
00:44:19.000You talked about the, I think the current Pope being a member of the Well, Ratzinger, Cardinal Ratzinger, who's one of the leading candidates to be Pope, he's German, was a member of the Hitler Youth, yeah.
00:44:32.000Well, the only thing is, the Nazis and the Germans lost, the Communists won.
00:44:46.000Our college students and seminary students are being trained to be communists, so what I'm saying is they're so sloppy in their handling with all the things that's coming down and forcing it on us.
00:44:55.000You think that there's a possibility that they could be doing this just to get an uprise out of us so they could call a UN troop in, the quell the disturbance that might rise out of the Patriots, maybe rising up to resist it?
00:45:14.000No, to resist What the New World Order boys are cramming down our face here in America right now.
00:45:20.000I think he's giving us the good cop, bad cop scenario, Erskine, with the United Nations, of course, being the good cop.
00:45:26.000That leads us to John Bolton, which we can talk about in a minute.
00:45:29.000Well, it also leads to the statement of Henry Kissinger that in the end we will be grateful for the United Nations to come in and maintain order in the United States, be begging for it, that he said at the Bilderberg meeting, I believe.
00:45:42.000So, yeah, lots and lots of things on that.
00:46:22.000I love that word, tapped, to be the ambassador to the United Nations, even though he's gone on record many times to be very opposed to the United Nations.
00:46:31.000So again, this is the dichotomy that we get here in the establishment media.
00:46:35.000It's now just come out, John Bolton, while he was the head of USAID, you'll see the Orwellian term in this, Erskine, in a second, it's now come out through a whistleblower, Melody Townsall, who was stationed in Kyrgyzstan on a USAID project, that during her stay there, she became embroiled in a controversy, which John Bolton that during her stay there, she became embroiled in a controversy, which John Bolton
00:46:55.000And she goes on, she writes this letter to the authorities, and describes an incident where she was basically haunted, beaten, and harassed by John Bolton for trying to bring to light some of the problems with USAID.
00:47:08.000Not specifically that it isn't aiding anybody, it's controlling people!
00:47:12.000He didn't like that very much, so after months of her getting out there and whistleblowing, he stalked her, literally, and intimidated her to keep her quiet.
00:47:25.000Yeah, I mean, this is a guy who makes the Queen of Mean and also makes people like Leona Helmsley look good.
00:47:33.000I mean, this guy has a management style that is beyond abrasive.
00:47:43.000Well, I know that some phony opposition Democrats are at least going to scream and cry a little bit, maybe even filibuster, but I think it's a foregone conclusion.
00:47:52.000You know, Bush has gotten every neocon approval, every war criminal, guys like John Dimitri Negroponte and guys like Comrade Cherkov or Alberto Gonzalez, whoever.
00:48:29.000Did they put him... Yeah, he's the head of Homeland Security, taking over for Tom Ridge.
00:48:32.000A dual citizen in charge of Homeland Security, and we're talking and concerned about spies and everything else in this... Look, they tried to get...
00:48:42.000They tried to get Carrick in there, Bernie Carrick, and then all the skeletons came out of his closet.
00:48:47.000He was an employee of Giuliani Partners of New York, and so was Chertoff, also an employee, also one of these guys that helps draft these torture memos.
00:48:57.000I mean, we want somebody who is a proponent for torture involved in something as huge, a massive bureaucracy, like Homeland Security.
00:49:06.000He was involved in torture, he is a dual citizen, and yet he got approved with zero, zero votes against him in the Senate.
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00:49:32.000Like Jack was saying, up in Rhode Island, he had a whole community come by and they were watching it and paying to see the video at the theater.
00:49:40.000Sold out every single time because people are hungry for the truth.
00:50:31.000And you know, you gotta wonder if it's really genuine or not.
00:50:34.000I think it is, but... Hold on Russell, because when we come back, you'll be able to have any comments that you want to make, or questions for myself, Erskine, or Jack Blunt.
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00:53:56.000This is Erskine and Jack Lutz sitting in today for the great Alex Jones.
00:54:15.000Reminding you that on PrisonPlanet.com and especially on InfoWars.com, there's a new report up there about the Minutemen, so you can be absolutely 100% up to date and coming up next are Paul Joseph Watson, author of Order Out of Chaos.
00:54:31.000We're talking with Russell in Florida.
00:54:32.000Russell, you have a comment or a question that you wanted to make?
00:54:48.000And I gotta tell you guys, it seems like they in Europe live more free than we do here in America now.
00:54:54.000Jack witnessed at first hand the police state in New York City during the Republican Convention.
00:54:59.000And I go up to New York a lot and just the attitude of the police and the amount of police in comparison to where I was in Europe.
00:55:08.000It seems like not only has it become a huge business here, but it's become... I just think that they're targeting the United States, which definitely the New World Order is targeting the United States, but it just seems like we're being targeted.
00:55:34.000Of course, the EU Constitution and some of the future legislation in Europe gives people privileges.
00:55:40.000And I wonder if the listeners would rather have a right or a privilege, Erskine.
00:55:44.000I understand what you're saying, but I've also talked to a number of people who are saying that even in Russia and China, I've talked to people who are former CIA people, they're saying that they're having more freedom of speech, more freedom of the press than they have in the U.S., Look what happened with Putin.
00:56:02.000I mean, they are just tightening us down.
00:56:15.000Hello, a little bit on the anti-Catholic bigotry I heard there.
00:56:18.000I know that Alex Jones would never come out with stories unverified.
00:56:22.000For example, that John Paul II was involved in manufacturing, or, yeah, cycling B to gas to Jews.
00:56:30.000That was the implication of what the...
00:56:32.000We certainly don't speak for Alex Jones, and I don't know if... I think we're speaking to adults here for the most part, and I don't know if we have to put a disclaimer on this.
00:56:57.000Verified that he did not work as a slave, if that's what you're talking about.
00:57:01.000Are you saying that everybody who works in slave labor camps intentionally does things that, you know, they did?
00:57:09.000My impression is that if that is true, that he had no idea what those Cyclone B was for, but to insinuate that he had full knowledge that it was The gas use is just ridiculous.
00:57:47.000No, no, what we should say is that the Pope ended Communism and he was a great world leader and led to, I think, with faith, a billion Catholics.
00:57:58.000I heard you say one time, Jack, that you were a Catholic, maybe the last Catholic, I'm not sure.
00:58:12.000There's a lot of Catholics that help to distribute them.
00:58:16.000Um, you know, I mean, to insinuate that the Catholic Church or, sorry, the, which, I mean, the Pope as the one world leader that stood for life from the womb to the tomb.
00:58:28.000I'm very sick because I've been through a lot.
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00:59:14.000Jack Blood here with you, along with me, the one and only Erskine, along with me, the one and only Erskine, both of us on Genesis Communications Radio Networks.
00:59:35.000So glad you could join us for the Alex Jones program today.
00:59:37.000Alex is on assignment and will be back tomorrow.
00:59:40.000Great show lined up for you today, folks.
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01:00:41.000They have some new information coming out on the Minutemen and how a pro-illegal organization is confronting the Minutemen out there.
01:00:48.000No, I don't want to offend anyone that's pro-illegal immigration.
01:00:51.000God forbid we offend anybody with the truth, Erskine.
01:00:55.000That's something I think that we should be very careful of.
01:00:57.000You know, I have to remind you, it's Patriots Day today, and tomorrow is a really big day.
01:01:02.000Of course, it's the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, the 12th anniversary of the Waco bombing, of course the anniversary of, speaking of the Nazis, the Nazis moving into Warsaw, Poland, and burning, literally burning the ghettos in Warsaw, Poland.
01:01:17.000I think a lot of correlations to Waco, as the people of Poland were arming themselves against the Nazis.
01:01:23.000So we have a big day coming up tomorrow and maybe sometime during the broadcast today we'll talk a little bit about Oklahoma City.
01:01:28.000I saw a fair and balanced report on Fox News last night about the unanswered questions of Oklahoma City.
01:01:35.000Of course, they didn't ask any of the unanswered questions.
01:01:38.000And I see something very dangerous happening, especially with Oklahoma City now, Erskine.
01:01:42.000I'd like to get your comment on that before we go back to calls.
01:01:45.000And that is, particularly, the John Doe No.
01:01:49.000Now, they've written that off as being an innocent bystander, but I'm seeing more and more today that they're putting up links between the, quote, white supremacists or separatists here in the United States and Al-Qaeda and the Muslims.
01:02:01.000Reported on Fox News last night, there was a direct connection with both Nichols and McVeigh and the guys that blew up the World Trade Center in 1993.
01:02:09.000I guess that would be the FBI, Erskine.
01:02:12.000Well, I mean, I never saw anything so quick as the rush to execute Mr. McVeigh, but when you're looking at the situation, I think we've got Lee Harvey McVeigh.
01:02:23.000I think that's the best way to describe it.
01:02:25.000We've got people who saw them putting bombs into the building the day before.
01:02:30.000We've got Jenna, who's the reporter over there, who tells a really amazing story.
01:02:35.000You've also got the story of the IRS agents who just didn't show up that day, the federal employees who were late showing up or didn't show up.
01:02:45.000I mean, there are certain points where you can say, this is a coincidence, this is a coincidence, but if you connect all those dots, there certainly is a lot more to that story than we've heard.
01:02:58.000Well, my point specifically though, there are a lot of questions and I'm going to be getting into this thoroughly all week on our program here on Genesis Deadline Live, again following Alex Jones.
01:03:07.000But the thing that I think is most alarming is that as they kind of brushed aside the Muslim presence during the Oklahoma City bombing, now they are all too willing to embrace it as we are on this global manhunt for Islamic terrorists.
01:03:22.000So this is all too convenient now, Erskine.
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01:09:29.000And they have said that they I do intend to be adequately armed and develop nuclear energy to the point of possibly
01:09:40.000Being able to have nuclear weapons, so... Now listen, we moved our naval fleet from off the coast of North Korea, that certainly does have arms, and off the coast of China, that has threatened to take over Taiwan, so we move it down to Iran, who says we may get nuclear arms.
01:10:00.000Well, what the deal is, Iran is coming in with a new oil market, And they are going to base oil on the denier versus the U.S.
01:10:13.000We're going to Iran when we've got countries like North Korea sitting up there threatening us directly.
01:10:19.000You've got China threatening Taiwan directly.
01:10:22.000So we move our forces all the way down to Iran, who isn't threatening anybody right now.
01:10:27.000Another case of weapons of mass deception!
01:10:31.000You said it, Erskine, and I find it interesting that Thomas Barnett, who is the author of the Pentagon's new map, works directly for the Pentagon, Navy War College, says we should give nukes to Iran and we should just let China go ahead and get Taiwan, though we know now that they're practicing war games specifically to go into Iran, that being the United States and Israel.
01:10:52.000As we speak, we're looking at potentially a June invasion if things don't go their way.
01:10:59.000I want to say one thing else about Charles Keyes.
01:11:02.000The former congressman on Power Hour, he said he wanted someone to step up in the audience and be, let's say, a central point person for FOIA requests because what's happening is that there's been a blanket on fulfilling FOIA requests and I think, and he thinks, that it would be good to have a non-partisan person at least letting other people know
01:11:33.000I don't know anything on the internet that is pulling together all the FOIA requests and letting everyone know because it's a constitutional and statutory right and it doesn't really matter on what part of the spectrum you are.
01:11:47.000I think that if someone, I would be willing to be a member of let's say a group that did that and I think that if we don't do that I think we're going to be divided and conquered On the policy of flattening this FOIA Act.
01:12:35.000I'm telling you, the presidency, the government is becoming less and less and less open, whereas we are becoming more and more and more transparent as we lose all of our privacy.
01:12:48.000But it's the way of the New World Order.
01:13:19.000Well, Fred had brought up finding someone non-partisan to head this committee to grant FOIA requests.
01:13:26.000I'd like to know the definition of non-partisan, and according to my definition, I don't know where they're going to find the guy unless it's me or you or one of our listeners, Erskine.
01:14:06.000We were talking about a lot of issues, Erskine and I and the listeners, today.
01:14:09.000And I think one of the more important ones is what is happening now with Iran.
01:14:14.000I wondered if you'd like to comment on the last call.
01:14:17.000Well, yeah, there's actually an article we've got on PrisonPlanet.com today, which, for many, the source of which is, in some doubt, is Debka, which many see as an Israeli intelligence agency front.
01:14:30.000But it's Pakistan gets F-16s in exchange for US bases to attack Iran.
01:14:38.000But as your previous caller mentioned, the June date was a hot button point for when they wanted to go in there.
01:14:45.000I think it was Scott Ritter that came out and said that was then, at that point, they would not only go into Iran, but the pretext would be to reinstate the draft.
01:14:57.000I mean, what, we're getting towards the end of April now?
01:15:00.000Without some major kind of event and the only major event which I see on the horizon.
01:15:06.000is this global flu pandemic which will be very difficult to blame on Iranian-linked terrorists seen as it's already been admitted that it was sent out by mistake from US labs.
01:15:19.000So I think with Iran you're looking towards mid-2006 to when they go in there and obviously the need for the draft will be there because we are tied down in Iraq, when I say we, the Well, the fact of the matter is that George W. Bush wanted the draft board ready to have the draft for 75 days at the end of last month.
01:15:37.000draft going on so there will need to be some kind of event which will create a draft back to the matter is that george w bush wanted the draft board ready to have the draft for 75 days at the end of last month so 75 days counting off they're ready to go anytime after that You know, I wonder, Paul, if you've seen this new video, this new TV commercial coming out by the, I guess, the equivalent of the Iranian National Congress out of Bethesda, Maryland, of all places.
01:16:08.000This is going to be airing on TV stations all over the country, including here in Texas, which warns us of the coming mushroom cloud nuclear attack if we don't do something about Iran.
01:16:27.000I think people, honestly, at least half the people in this country know that we were sold a bill of weapons of mass deception, and I don't think it's going to sell again.
01:16:46.000I don't think America has the stomach to go into Iran and invade another country for oil and Halliburton.
01:16:53.000Paul, are we susceptible to another Ahmad Chalabi with this Iran Freedom Foundation out of Bethesda, Maryland?
01:17:00.000Well, there's no doubt that the neocons will believe that we are, because obviously they're proponents of the Straussian philosophy of the noble lie, the old Hitler creed that the bigger the lie, the more likely people are to believe it.
01:17:14.000And so, as with Iraq, people now know that the intelligence was based on the depositions of People like Curveball, the drunken alcoholic source for many of the weapons of mass destruction information.
01:17:31.000So there's no doubt that they'll try exactly the same process again.
01:17:34.000They'll use the same template, and whether the American people will buy it remains to be seen.
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01:17:52.000But still, I want to believe in my heart of hearts that they aren't going to fall for it again.
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01:24:02.000Um, and the artwork featured fake postage stamps with pictures of Bush's head on them, with a gun aimed towards Bush's head, among other things.
01:24:13.000And the Secret Service turned up and asked for the addresses and phone numbers of the people involved in the art exhibit, in their zeal to protect America.
01:24:22.000And what was interesting to me was the media reaction after the event.
01:24:27.000There's a Chicago Sun-Times article out today, which is the first paper that reported the story.
01:24:34.000Which legitimizes the whole thing and says that basically in a post 9-11 world, it's the Secret Service's job to investigate these kind of things, which also include, as we've featured in the past, things like neighbors calling the police on a guy flying the American flag upside down in his backyard.
01:24:54.000A 12-year-old kid, you know, writes a research paper on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
01:25:00.000The Joint Terrorism Task Force show up.
01:25:05.000A couple of the students disagree with Bush's policies.
01:25:09.000They get interrogated by the Secret Service.
01:25:12.000People get arrested in shopping malls wearing peace t-shirts.
01:25:16.000And I actually talked to someone who was also visited by the Joint Terrorism Task Force because His neighbours actually called them because he and his wife were staying up past 2am on most nights.
01:25:28.000And they actually showed up at his front door and started asking questions, so staying up late is now a potential form of terrorism.
01:25:36.000The point to mention is that in reality all the real threats, not just to the security of the country, but the economy and everything else, are purposefully ignored by both the government and the media.
01:25:48.000Now we have this new report out today.
01:25:52.000Airport security is no better since September 11th.
01:25:55.000And of course the media don't point out that fondling pregnant women You know, making eight-year-old men take off their shoes and putting Ted Kennedy on a no-fly list contributed to that lack of proper security.
01:26:07.000They tell us that we're going to have to accept more of that kind of thing to make us secure.
01:26:13.000Well, Paul, where is the wonderful ACLU in this deal with Columbia and the ARCTA exhibition?
01:26:22.000Because, um, same with the Terry Jarvis situation, if you have somebody on death row undergoing that kind of, um, treatment, you know, a war crime banned by the Geneva Convention, then they'd be involved in the case.
01:26:35.000But because it's a pro-life issue, they're nowhere to be seen.
01:26:38.000Paul, this seems to me that this is not a war on terrorism, it's a war against the American people!
01:26:46.000Well, that's exactly the point, because while we're submitting to all this in the airports and elsewhere, in North Carolina we have this story where dozens of illegal aliens are given these high-tech secure aircraft mechanics jobs.
01:27:02.000The situation down on the Arizona border, Um, the first phase of the Minuteman Project, no illegal aliens get through the area being watched by the Minutemen group.
01:27:12.000And, you know, what does the media do?
01:27:14.000Does the media congratulate them on their success?
01:27:17.000Encourage the government to fund more grassroots schemes like this?
01:27:21.000No, you know, they go and dig out the three top spokesmen of the racist Mexican La Raza affiliated groups to demonize a bunch of people with lawn chairs and binoculars.
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01:33:47.000One of the key things is that we're looking at this biometrics that has your financial data, it has your health data, and of course it's only going to be used for law enforcement.
01:34:57.000Um, if airport security asks you to show extra identification and you respond, you know, in a simpering, inferior manner by saying that you forgot to bring any, then more likely than not, they will let you through, over and above, if you refuse to show identity because you believe it's a violation of your God-given rights.
01:35:19.000So, the benchmark isn't whether or not you show identity, it's whether or not you display obedience to authority.
01:35:28.000You hit the nail on the head there Paul and just like the cards we get at the grocery store where you become a preferred customer and you get all of the discounts and they share your data with anybody who wants to pay for it we have the same problem with these biometrics you know and I think a lot of people don't know if they haven't been to Boston Logan Airport or Well, yeah.
01:35:46.000certain airports where this new version of CAPS 2 is being tested, they don't really know how this is going to work.
01:35:52.000But as you say, if you don't go along with the system, if you're going to rock the boat, if you're a system buster in any way, you'll be targeted and investigated.
01:36:00.000I mean, we've seen that over and over again.
01:36:03.000As you mentioned with the things like the store loyalty cards, the other side of it is the commercial aspect.
01:36:09.000With the advent of RFID technology and its applications in the commercial sector, we're entering what is basically a minority report experience, those who have seen the film, whereby the RFID chip in your national ID card and eventually the one implanted in your arm stores reams of data about your buying habits.
01:36:31.000And so then these smart billboards, which they've developed, change to purposefully direct their advertising towards you based on what your record shows you'd be interested in buying.
01:36:42.000We've already got to the stage where in major Japanese cities, they have this directed audio beam technology, which can transmit directly into your inner ear the sales pitch for things like the Coke machine They already have the Coke vending machines in Tokyo which do that.
01:37:00.000And then there's the criminal application where the transponder tags on your cars, which will become mandatory as they're trying to do in Texas with a bill they're trying to pass, will be scanned for any minor insurance or unpaid ticket violation.
01:37:16.000We've got an article on PrisonPlanet.com today which talks about the Eurocopter which is a police helicopter in the UK that can scan five cars a second and in the US we had the articles a couple of weeks ago about the boot finder system which is already being used to target people for overdue library books.
01:37:38.000Well then they had the thing, Paul, about the rental car company that was fining people for speeding.
01:37:46.000That's exactly what they do, and you know, there was a day where you could drive on the Autobahn in Germany as fast as you wanted to, and you know, that was a wonderful thing.
01:37:55.000I'm sure they had some accidents, and yeah, I'm sure they had some drunk drivers.
01:37:58.000Now, they rigorously enforce the speed limit there, and they have cameras all along the Autobahn to get your picture, get your license plate picture, and send you a little notice in the mail, much like they do here with the stoplight cameras.
01:38:12.000Yeah, and they've just passed the bill in Germany for mandatory GPS trackers on all vehicles, which was in the news last week.
01:38:20.000Yet, a lot of people go back to sleep because they tell us now that the Matrix database system has been shut down.
01:38:27.000A program, by the way, set up for the US government by an accused cocaine smuggler.
01:38:33.000When in actual fact, a lot of these programs, like Total Information Awareness, just go dark, just go underground and get their funding through the black budget and things like industry donations.
01:38:44.000So it's just another tentacle of the Leviathan.
01:38:47.000Yeah, I think that people will take this a lot more seriously when they get a note from their insurance company that they've been buying cigarettes at the local shopping mall, or shopping store, and therefore their insurance will go up 50%.
01:39:00.000I mean, that's just one way to, of course, line their pockets, but the issues I think we're all concerned about are the control mechanisms being set into place.
01:39:08.000This is a high-tech society, and though, you know, we have always had certain control mechanisms and measures, what really gets scary is the high-tech end of this, which has now come in for the 20th and 21st century, Paul.
01:39:20.000You know, if Adolf Hitler had these methods, he had the biometrics, he had the new mapping of the genes, he would have been absolutely in heaven.
01:39:30.000One question for you, Paul Joseph Watson.
01:39:33.000Your book, Order Out of Chaos, in order to maintain an order, in order to bring this in, they had to create a chaotic situation.
01:39:41.000That is the essence of your book, but you go into such great detail and you have it so well documented from the mainstream.
01:39:51.000Are they starting to lose to where they're going to have to create another chaotic situation in your mind?
01:39:58.000Well, yes, that's exactly what's over the horizon.
01:40:00.000You were talking about Oklahoma City earlier, which was the second stage of it.
01:40:04.000Give me a time frame on this, Paul, if you've got a time frame that they should have another major event happen by such and such and so and so.
01:40:13.000Get a little crystal ball gazing out because I know the way you have studied it, the way you have written about this, you have your finger on the pulse as to how these people are thinking and how they're acting.
01:40:24.000When you read that book, Order Out of Chaos, you understand why a lot of these things are occurring that seems to be random Well, there is no doubt that they wanted an attack on the magnitude of 9-11, on the scale of 9-11, within the immediate year after 9-11.
01:40:42.000Major reason why they backed off from doing it is the fact that everybody was blowing the whistle on how 9-11 was an inside job.
01:40:49.000And that's not just a cliche to say, there is no doubt that we have backed them off to a certain extent on carrying out another attack.
01:40:57.000First World Trade Center bombing, Oklahoma City bombing and 9-11 were a three-pronged attack on the American people, but it was only the first phase.
01:41:05.000The next phase will be elevated to such a substantial degree that it will cause such massive nationwide and worldwide chaos that they will have to very carefully control that chaos without it descending into anarchy.
01:41:19.000Something like 9-11 is small fry compared to what they have in store because they knew from the very start, they had scripted the whole event the whole day.
01:41:28.000I'm thinking the next one has to be biological.
01:41:29.000that outright chaos whereby they would lose control of the consequences would not happen. - I'm thinking the next one has to be biological.
01:41:38.000Is that in accordance with what you're thinking? - Yeah, and they may even shift away from the whole terrorist route, then they can say that they protected us from the terrorists, there was no attack after 9/11, but now this new evil will emerge which could come from the flu pandemic We have the 1918 deadly Spanish flu virus, Being played around with by US scientists at less than the maximum level of security according to New Scientist magazine.
01:42:08.000Now we have this other flu virus being sent out from labs by pure mistake.
01:42:14.000You know, we can really trust that it was a mistake and nobody was involved in the purposeful sending out of this virus to create panic and an eventual excuse to blame the pandemic on.
01:42:24.000So it seems to me they'll shift away from the terrorist aspect, the terrorist paradigm and It will be either man-made or, well, I mean like natural disaster.
01:42:34.000They could actually fake a bioterrorist attack, show a couple of people on TV dying a horrible death, and of course people will line right up into the quarantine camps and into the vaccination camps.
01:42:45.000You know, I interviewed Oliver North and I asked him, you know, about anthrax and anthrax vaccinations in the war in Iraq, and he went on with great glee to tell me how they would show these films to the troops who maybe didn't want to take the anthrax vaccine, and once they saw the people dying their horrible death, they all, you just laugh, they all took the vaccine, you know.
01:43:05.000So it would be very easy for them to even fake this.
01:43:08.000Paul, what do you think the reality is that these third world terrorists can keep and manage and maintain something as sophisticated as a bioweapon?
01:43:15.000There's no possibility whatsoever, and the point that I've made before is that if there are all these terrorists running around our back garden, as we are led to believe, here in Britain, there have been 500 arrests on the grounds of terrorism.
01:43:30.000Only two were ever charged, and that was with immigration fraud.
01:43:34.000Yet the immediate swoop, the arrest, is on the front page of the newspaper, the clarification that there was no actual evidence for the arrest and no plot, as with the ricin attack which recently came out, is in the back of the newspaper.
01:43:47.000So, things like the bio-attack would be prepared.
01:43:50.000We've had all these drills in Boston and other places whereby you have men in black ski masks, bio-suits, barking orders to people.
01:43:59.000Here in Britain they've sent out pamphlets to every home in the country telling people exactly where to go in the event of attack.
01:44:06.000They've set up western relocation camps.
01:44:09.000Yeah, Paul, you know they laid this all out last season on 24.
01:44:15.000Well, you know, MK Delta and Plum Island are still up and running, and they certainly have a plan.
01:44:22.000They are still developing, and as Paul said, very, very cogent, the 1918 Spanish Flu that killed millions of people is still being shopped around to at least six different institutions.
01:44:35.000And when you're looking at this situation, With the 1918 flu, this fits in with the Rockefeller eugenics movement where they're trying to eliminate so many of the useless eaters, as they call it.
01:44:51.000The Spanish Flu, they had it at biosecurity level 4, which means people dealing with it have full bio-suits.
01:44:58.000And then they downgraded it to a level 3, where people wear no protective headgear and they're walking in and out of the facility at their own volition without even being checked.
01:45:09.000Definitely, there is an eventual agenda for depopulation.
01:45:13.000They beta-tested it with the AIDS virus, which was in the Congressional Record.
01:45:17.000They wanted to create a virus with no known cure.
01:45:21.000They introduced that into the gay population of San Francisco.
01:45:28.000We've heard Ted Turner come out and say that the best ideal situation for the planet is about a quarter of a billion in population.
01:45:37.000Of course, Prince Philip has come out and said the same thing.
01:45:39.000He wants to come back as a particularly deadly virus when he's reincarnated.
01:45:43.000Let's just take, for example, let's just go ahead and be hypothetical here and say if these vaccines work, they're going to save us.
01:45:49.000Then let's ask the question, why have there never been more than a quarter of a billion, conveniently enough, vaccines in the world at any time?
01:45:56.000Because they can only save a quarter of a billion of us, Paul?
01:46:01.000What I don't buy is what they're counting on, which is when they release either this flu pandemic or this smallpox attack, that people won't completely freak out and head for the hills, because that's a natural human instinct, the survival instinct to do so.
01:46:17.000And I believe a vast majority, more on which they're counting on, would refuse to follow the orders to go to the rest and relocation camps, would refuse a mandatory vaccine.
01:46:27.000I think they've underestimated the reaction of people in the event of that happening.
01:46:35.000Look what they did with the flu last year.
01:46:37.000They said, hey, you've got to have that flu vaccine or you're going to die.
01:46:39.000And you had old people standing in line, some of them dropping over like flies because they had to wait for four hours.
01:46:45.000Others were taking planes, boats, any way they could get to Canada to get the flu vaccine because they thought they were going to die.
01:46:51.000And then they said, oops, we miscalculated.
01:46:55.000The rules of engagement, by the way, folks, and that's why we're talking about this and why this could be a strategic point for the New World Order to gain control.
01:47:02.000The modus operandi, the orders of command, is to shoot on sight anybody that breaks the quarantine.
01:47:09.000So, Paul, as you mentioned, those who are heading for the hills, I'm sure, will be labeled as extremists and white supremacists and insurgents, but you'll literally be shot on sight, folks, if you break this quarantine, if and when this happens.
01:47:20.000Well, they've admitted that, and there was an article in the Scotsman with the headline, Dirty Bomb Victims Will Be Shot, whereby if you leave the quarantined area, you will be shot, whereas these terrorist drills in Boston and New Jersey, I think it was 99% of the role players in the exercise left the so-called contaminated area.
01:47:44.000So that would have spread the disease, which is maybe their aim in the first place.
01:47:49.000So that's interesting to see the details on that.
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01:53:42.000Bill in Wisconsin, you're on the air with Paul Joseph Watson and Erskine.
01:53:45.000Okay, thank you Jack Erskine and Paul Joseph Watson, whom I've heard many times, and Alex Jones, and I really appreciate a lot of what you have to say.
01:54:09.000I guess, yeah, I guess that's what you say.
01:54:12.000Okay, and I want to tell Bill that I've been a Catholic my entire life, and perhaps he hasn't looked into the problems that have taken place within the Church since the Second Vatican Council.
01:54:29.000In other words, Bill, I would tell you you've got, and there's plenty of what are called the traditional Catholic or Catholic websites that bring out information concerning the infiltration of our church by either, you know, Masons, Murano Jews, or also what Pius X, Pope Saint Pius X, called modernists.
01:55:00.000Now, when you realize that we have been infiltrated, just like all the other governments of the world, and all of the other institutions and so forth, you have to understand that the people that they are parading in front of us are not arch-conservative, are not conservative, are not anti-communist.
01:55:24.000They are doing the work primarily of this new world order.
01:55:29.000It sounds to me, Bill, like you agree with Hutton Gibson on some of your opinions on the Catholic Church, and he's done a lot of research and can back up everything that he's saying.
01:55:38.000You know, it's very disturbing, because when you get reports that, you know, all of this New World Order, cult of the eye, pyramid in the eye, Freemasonic symbolism within the Vatican and within the Pope's own apartment, I mean, it just walks like a duck and it talks like a duck.
01:55:52.000We sometimes like to just look at it and point at it and say, hey, it's quacking, it's a duck.
01:55:57.000Paul, you have published several stories on what's going on with the Vatican today.
01:56:01.000Do you want to comment on, you know, for one, we were talking about Ratzinger being a Hitler Youth, and this is the guy that of course warned us about the Antichrist.
01:56:10.000He's now leading in the Vegas odds to potentially be the next Pope.
01:56:14.000Well, the London Times article about this potential new Pope being part of the Hitler Youth is somewhat biased in the sense that it makes out that at every level he tried to get out of it, which is probably not actually true, and that he was witness to some of the Jews being taken to concentration cancer guard in some of the German facilities.
01:56:35.000With the Pope that's just passed away, we had a balanced reaction as to whether he was, you know, pro or anti New World Order.
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01:59:03.000WTDY is a huge station there out of Madison and thank you for carrying us and you can listen to that every Saturday night Saturday night into Sunday morning but what happened at the Vatican I just watched a video called Illuminati which is, by the way, the person who does the talking on the video is John Steed or Patrick McNee who was on the Avengers with Emma Peel.
01:59:29.000But Cardinal Velo was the person who was the Illuminati hitman inside the Vatican who apparently took out Pope John Paul the first after 33 days when he found out what was going on so there's a lot of intrigue that was going on concerning the John Paul the first who was apparently a very good man who was trying to root out the Illuminati which had taken over the KGB and also was moving in on the
01:59:59.000Vatican, so if you're looking at that, it's certainly very intriguing to see the tentacles of this old, old, old organization, the Illuminati.
02:00:26.000Well, yeah, obviously it's still around and, you know, they're different tentacles of the spider's web.
02:00:31.000It's the offshoot organizations of the original German Illuminati, like Skull & Bones and the Vatican.
02:00:39.000We were talking about before the break, There is no doubt that the Vatican was involved in Operation Gladio, which was a CIA-run strategy of tension, they called it, to carry out terrorist bombings in European countries, France, Spain and Italy primarily.
02:01:00.000To blame it on the then left-wing opposition so they could bolster the emergence of the right-wing governments in those countries.
02:01:08.000And the actual documents which are on the National Security Archive website show that there were direct Vatican links to that operation which killed dozens and dozens of people.
02:01:20.000Well, if you don't think this Illuminati is real, and you don't think that these people are worshipping the dark forces, you've got to look at the work that Alex Jones did with Bohemian Grove.
02:01:32.000That shows you right there what's going on, doesn't it, Paul?
02:01:49.000You go and talk to anyone who's even known a Mason who got anywhere near the 33rd degree and they'll tell you that To get to the 33rd degree, you need to denounce Christ and embrace Satan, spit on the cross.
02:02:06.000My next door neighbor told me the same thing, that his brother was approached to be a 33rd degree Freemason and he was told that that's what he would have to do.
02:02:15.000But 90% of the Masons or more are really good people!
02:02:19.000Exactly, and that's why when you tell them about all this, they disbelieve you, because then it puts in doubt their life's work, basically, which is a big emotional, mental sacrifice to make, that they've applied their life to this cause, when at the top it's rotten to the core.
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02:05:56.000You've got it right, Alex is the T-Rex of political talk, and more than that, he is exposing what's going on in America, no, in the world today.
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02:07:57.000Which brings this into the public debate and gives the news organizations the ability to discount the Illuminati altogether.
02:08:05.000Now Paul, you know how this works very well, these false flags where you put a book like the Da Vinci Code out or you put a book like the Illuminati out, now that Dan Brown is doing, and it's guilt by association because if we mention the Illuminati, we're going to be lumped into one of these Dan Brown readers and it completely discredits any argument that we can have before we can get started.
02:08:33.000Many would say that the Lone Gunman pilot episode, which one of the actors in, Dean Hagland, said that NASA and intelligence agencies by towards the end of the X-Files and at the start of the Lone Gunman were feeding the producers the script and obviously the pilot episode of the Lone Gunman featured a script where a government group takes control of an airliner and wants to fly it into the World Trade Center to create a launch pad for a war.
02:09:00.000Didn't you find it a little bit odd, though?
02:09:02.000Look at all the promotion that the Da Vinci Code got.
02:09:04.000I mean, I never turned on the TV without them talking about how great this book was, and I don't want to offend.
02:09:09.000I'm sure there are people out there that have read the book and enjoyed it, and that's a different matter altogether, but isn't it odd that somebody like Dan Brown comes out, gets all of this publicity, sells millions and millions of copies of his books, whereas if Fritz Springmeier writes a book about bloodlines and the Illuminati, he gets locked in jail for bank robbery.
02:09:27.000Well, I mean, that's exactly the case.
02:09:28.000They would build someone up to that level whereby they would attain, you know, all this attention and then funnel that into fictionalizing what is the real subject going on in the world today, which is the Illuminati and what they're doing in the world.
02:09:42.000So there's no doubt that that's a successful tactic and it's been used many times in the past.
02:09:47.000It's used in television on a day-to-day basis.
02:09:50.000The other thing I've seen that they've been doing, not to interrupt you Paul Joseph Watson, but they have a number of people out there who are talking about the Illuminati and write books about it and they put a lot of truth and then they'll do an overlay of that of reptilians or an overlay on that of Aliens which are something that's absolutely ridiculous and when they do that overlay, then the truth becomes part and parcel of that.
02:10:18.000Don't you think that's another disinformation technique?
02:10:21.000Well yeah, and the internet is at the forefront of that because it's flooded with so much noise that most people can't differentiate between what's a credible news source and what isn't.
02:10:32.000Obviously we know the mainstream media lie and spin and only put the truth in the back of the newspaper, so then people turn to alternative media, but then you have a raft of websites and researchers which, either by intent or not, are deliberately putting out misinformation.
02:10:49.000What the major front of that at the moment is that the peak oil scam when the scientists have just done the research in Mexico found that it's actually The evidence is pointing to the fact that it's a renewable energy source.
02:11:04.000And there are all sorts of different facets of this, the reptilian thing, as he mentioned, that discredit the hardcore of the information, which is astounding enough for anyone on first impact to believe in the first place.
02:11:17.000So if you layer all this other stuff on top, then they get buried under it and they simply switch off.
02:12:48.000He's acting Contrary to the Constitution, contrary to our, as citizens of the United States, contrary to that, he's acting treasonously by not securing the border.
02:13:03.000Well, taking away our constitutional rights, our 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendment rights among many, I guess would also be treason, but I think a lot of people would make the argument, Paul, maybe you'll comment on this, that, you know, we're having a war now, we have a war president, in a sense, what we have are war powers, and that really affects the way we read the Constitution, unfortunately.
02:13:22.000I don't think you'll get enough American people to go along with anything to do with impeachment.
02:13:26.000I think they're going to lionize George W. Bush, much like they just did with Reagan as he died, and the Pope, and any other second-term president.
02:13:33.000We shouldn't be in this war mode when we've got an open border down south.
02:14:12.000People will remember the Baghdad Square with the Saddam statue at the end of the so-called war.
02:14:19.000Um, where there was a supposed mass rally of Iraqis helping bring down the statue.
02:14:23.000In fact, if you look at the wider shot, the photo is a group about 50 Iraqis.
02:14:27.000And then in the protest last week, you look again at the same square and there are 100,000 Iraqis protesting for the occupational government to be kicked out.
02:14:39.000The borders aren't secure because if you have secure borders you can't introduce the FTAA, you can't harmonize all the South American, North American countries into one power block of the global government.
02:14:53.000And Bush and Condoleezza Rice have come out publicly denounced the Minutemen in front of world leaders for their efforts to secure the border.
02:15:03.000Basically, you can't beat them by playing by their rules.
02:15:06.000If there were impeachment proceedings, they just wouldn't get off the ground.
02:15:09.000What you can do... Charge them with treason and bring it in the county, let it start with the county, and then go to the state, and then carry on.
02:15:17.000I mean, it's got to start... Copy brought at the federal level, though, I don't think you can do anything... It can start anywhere!
02:16:55.000Now what's happening later today is David Ray Griffin Griffin, author of the 9-11 Truth Blockbusters, The New Pearl Harbor, and the 9-11 Commission Report, Emissions and Distortions, will be making a rare public appearance at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in Blasphem Hall today at 7.30.
02:17:12.000His brand new talk, entitled 9-11 and the American Empire, How Should Religious People Respond, will focus... So what day is he going to be talking up in Madison?
02:17:21.000Please hold me over, I'd like to finish... Yeah, that's going to air on C-SPAN in a week or two as well.
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02:21:57.000This is Erskine City in with Jack Blood for...
02:22:01.000Mr. Alex Jones, along with Paul Joseph Watson, and what they're doing is they want to harmonize trade between all of the nations, which means that you're losing sovereignty, and one of the other things that they're bringing in, and it's all for corporations, they're bringing in the frankenfoods, otherwise known as genetically modified foods, and so this weekend on Erskine Overnight, which is nine o'clock, John, for you on the West Coast,
02:24:30.000Thanks Craig and thanks for the heads up on that.
02:24:33.000Your book, Paul Joseph Watson, you really go into details about 9-11.
02:24:37.000You go into details that I never knew that are just now starting to come out.
02:24:42.000Details like the fact that Osama Bin Laden was in an American hospital in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, in July, treated by an American physician, seen by an American CIA station chief, just in July before September 9-11.
02:25:04.000I mean, this is incredible information, and you've got it documented from the major news sources around the world.
02:25:11.000It isn't something that's coming from some blog.
02:25:30.000If you're faced with that level of evil on a day-to-day basis and it's just staring you in the face then there is a danger that you can become conditioned to it and kind of bypass many things which you should focus on which are important.
02:25:43.000But, as you mentioned about my book, what a lot of people liked about it is that at the end of every page, and for every chapter, there are about 30 sources which are listed with the exact URL internet address where people can go and check the article.
02:25:59.000So it's thoroughly documented, which is what a lot of people like about it because some of the other, what you would call, you know, conspiracy books are not that way.
02:26:08.000And you use major sources, you use the New York Times, you use UPI, you use major news services, Reuters, you use all of the major news sources themselves have this information, but they bury it so deep they don't want you to see it!
02:26:27.000Most people wouldn't come across it, but if you do what I do on a daily basis, which is scan the news wires, scan the newspapers, as I do to create the websites, then this is how you come across the material.
02:26:54.000But the funny thing is, when I interview Bill Gertz or somebody from the Washington Times or Rowan Scarborough, they'll deny the very articles that you source that they printed.
02:27:04.000Well, yeah, it goes down the memory hole.
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02:30:34.000885-6625 866-885-6625 One more time, that's 866-885-6625 Call today It's the Alex Jones Show And sitting in for Alex is Erskine That's me And Jack Blood
02:31:02.000And we're also very fortunate to have our friend Paul Joseph Watson Author of Order Out of Chaos Now, Jack Blood's website is jackblood.com, mine is erskineonradio.com.
02:31:15.000You can write either one of us at our website.
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02:31:22.000Also, we'd like to make mention of PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, Martial Law, Rise of the Police State.
02:31:29.000That's the video that you need to get.
02:32:05.000This is Erskine, and do you have a question or comment for myself, for Jack, or for Paul Joseph Watson?
02:32:12.000Well, pretty much I just have a comment.
02:32:14.000You guys were earlier talking about the biometric passports, and I just want to throw my two cents in there.
02:32:23.000Well of course before the 9-11 I did a little bit traveling aboard or abroad and then I wasn't going to do no more but I had a son and he's got a metabolic disorder that's pretty rare and they don't have any treatment here in the United States.
02:32:39.000The only place that they have it is a doctor in Spain broke through this barrier back in 92.
02:32:44.000To make a long story short my two children do not have passports or excuse me social security numbers There was an issue with passports there, which we're still dealing with.
02:32:57.000But what it comes down to is, you know, I believe in the good man upstairs.
02:33:02.000I don't believe in taking Mark of the Beast and if this biometric stuff does happen, which from what I understand is happening, there's definitely going to be an issue there because if I can't get my son over there to get his medication, if you use that word, he basically will just sit there and rot and die on the floor in my opinion.
02:33:21.000Well, you know, it's an issue with a lot of people, especially a lot of Christians.
02:33:26.000They make all sorts of provisions for anybody else of any other religion, but if you happen to be a Christian, you know, you either accept it or you're out of luck.
02:33:36.000Christians are certainly a discriminated people in America today, I would say.
02:33:43.000Oh, I totally agree, and what sucks is I've tried to get the media involved in here to let people know that, you know, there was a doctor here that tried to do this disorder and basically killed a few of his patients.
02:33:57.000He's got an ego problem in my opinion.
02:34:09.000But, you know, it's just my whole point is people look at these passports as going on vacation.
02:34:14.000With our situation, it's not a vacation, it's a matter of life and death and functioning of my son.
02:34:21.000You know, 25% of the drugs brought into the America from Canada are confiscated?
02:34:28.000Yeah, and what bothers me though, Erskine, is, you know, look, a lot of us can say we won't go along with this and we'll suffer the consequences or the inconveniences or we'll live without or we'll make the sacrifices.
02:34:42.000He seems to have to go along with this system in order to take care and care for his son.
02:34:48.000Paul, I have to tell you, if Marcus Wolff was here, former head of the German Stasi working with our government, he'd be quite proud of the biometric internal passports and us snitching He is working with our government.
02:35:16.000Well, that's the thing, the essential day-to-day things which people need to do, and things like this caller, you know, to save the life of his own son, those are the things that they will crack down on, because that's the only way they'll get a lot of people to go under the system.
02:35:30.000It's a shame, but unfortunately not a surprise, that many people will willingly accept the surveillance state, because they've been conditioned for years that the convenience element, things like the cell phone, the supermarket loyalty card, The GPS satellite navigation system, the OnStar system, override the mammoth applications that both government and monopoly corporations have planned for this and are already implementing.
02:35:56.000Now wait a minute, wait a minute Paul, if we have to take like this biometric to keep us safe from these terrorists, isn't it worth doing to give up a little bit to keep us safe from these terrorists?
02:36:10.000Well, in that framed paradigm, yes, a lot of people believe it will, but they'll also go along with it more so due to the convenience factors of this biometric technology, whereby they don't have to carry cash around, whereby that creates the cashless society.
02:36:27.000They do the same thing with the Socialist Program in Welfare, where it looks like a freebie, it's the dole, and then go ahead and get your hand out of your paycheck, and then pretty soon, of course, you've got to take sub-dermal microchips, you've got to give them your social security number, you've got to register your children the day they're born, so they suck you into the system, get you on the teeth of the government, excuse the expression, and then they start locking in on you.
02:36:47.000Erskine, we've got a lot of calls here, man, we've got to get rolling.
02:36:50.000Let's go, thank you very much for the call.
02:36:59.000I really appreciate what you're doing, exposing the CIA military industrial complicity in 9-11 attacks and the police state measures that are all based on this phony, pretended pretext of fighting terrorism, but I do have some serious disagreements.
02:37:14.000I consider myself on the unaffiliated left.
02:37:17.000I would, I guess, agree with WorkersOrg and WSWS.org as a composite of my beliefs.
02:37:25.000They are leftist And I see a real Achilles heel of some modest conservatives like you.
02:37:34.000I think, as Paul mentioned, the Operation Gladio that was set up by the CIA and was colluded with by the Pope to frame up leftists in Europe to justify reactionary policies and overthrow of Andreotti in Italy.
02:37:51.000of the uh... the operation northwoods are uh... framed up cuba like i i think this is not so the mentioned you know this wasn't some anonymous uh... enemies of the globalist this was the specific enemy of the globalist cuba because it was uh... uh... taking a line that was opposed to these these fascists the antarctic now we're now we're after chavez in venezuela right and and and and the uh... but i i do believe the uh...
02:38:17.000The anti-communism of these neocons that are now in the present Bush administration is going to be reactivated.
02:38:23.000They were in the Reagan-Bush administration using the anti-communist pretext to kill hundreds of thousands of people through their despot regimes in Central America.
02:38:33.000And I think we have to realize that if we're going to trade a war that is horrible and murderous, over 125,000 people killed just since the invasion in Iraq, Trade that for a war based on anti-communism against North Korea or China, which is going to be genocidal, which will kill millions of people.
02:38:54.000I don't think we're getting anywhere, so I don't counterpose the idea that we're being lied to about Iran, Syria, and Iraq, and then say that why aren't we buying into the neocons of phase two part of their project for a new American century in which they state their ultimate target is Let's get Paul to comment on that.
02:39:17.000Paul, earlier we were talking about Iran and the possible pretext to get us into Iran, and we were talking about will the American people go along with this.
02:39:24.000I was immediately thinking, will the anti-war people, or the ABB, be able, as anybody but Bush, be able to stave this off?
02:39:31.000Because they haven't been able to stave anything else off.
02:39:33.000Well, no, they won't, because they're completely neutralized.
02:39:36.000I mean, the MoveOn.org left-wing group is now calling for U.S.
02:39:44.000John Kerry and people like that were on a lot of these so-called left-wing establishment boards, you know, pushing for the Iraq War before it happened.
02:39:54.000I don't look at us as being left or right.
02:39:57.000But any other real quick comment, because I need to move on, John?
02:40:01.000Yes, I just have to say that whether it's based on an anti-terrorist pretext, these neocons, or are going to revive their anti-communist pretext, I hope some honest conservatives will not join them.
02:40:14.000At the point where they use that tack and that label to justify these unjustified wars, because they will be even more genocidal if we buy all their propaganda about them.
02:40:23.000I think a lot of honest conservatives distance ourselves as far as we can from that, and even though we're on opposite sides of the spectrum, we're both Americans and we both are seeing what's going on.
02:41:48.000He managed to pull those vials of white powder and everybody was like, oh my God, don't drop that thing in here!
02:41:54.000Paul Joseph Watson, didn't Colin Powell make a statement in Europe that we were being taken over by a cult and a bunch of crazies over here?
02:42:01.000Yeah, and he was vehement in his distaste for the fact that they did set him up to go in front of the UN.
02:42:08.000But the point that the call is making is that Bush struts around like the sheriff because, in a sense, he's living in the Truman Show.
02:42:15.000We've been told that he doesn't read newspapers.
02:42:18.000You know, he attends these town hall events where the questions are scripted.
02:42:22.000All the White House press conferences are scripted.
02:42:25.000When he goes abroad there are quarantine zones, and also in America where protesters are kept away.
02:42:31.000So, if you're President Bush, then you really think that, you know, 99% of the country and the world is behind you, because he's so protected from any of the reality that... But when he's on his own, Paul, when he's on his own, he's quite dangerous, because he said, debt numbers, you know, that were previously quoted billions, are now quoted in trillions, and President said, oh, it's just a function of adding more zeros.
02:42:54.000This guy, when he's on his own, shows through, and you've really got to say, my goodness, I just can't understand this man.
02:43:03.000He's the only person I've seen who makes Dan Quayle look like an absolute Mensa member.
02:43:07.000I thought it was pretty startling when I interviewed Chris Matthews at Brown University, and he came right out and said, I'm an eyewitness that Dick Cheney is running that White House.
02:43:16.000And there's a big establishment type, and of course I'm not going to say that on a TV show, but that's what he says when he goes out and does some public speaking.
02:43:22.000They throw billions of dollars around like they're nickels in the bewildered herd of America, just, you know, lying up in front of their televisions with their thumbs in their mouths, just peripherally listening to what's going on.
02:43:34.000I think they're either dumb, we've been dumbed down, or we're in denial, or we're evil, one of the three, because I just cannot believe that the American people are footing this genocide with their taxpayers' money.
02:43:59.000How have they done this with the American public now?
02:44:01.000I know other people say that from a media standpoint, with very few exceptions, GCM being one, Alex Jones program certainly being one exception, We are in a cocoon of no news.
02:44:14.000How are they doing this so effectively, Paul?
02:44:17.000Primarily because the entertainment genres, the distractions, have now got so sophisticated and people are presented with so many supposed choices that the distraction from what's really going on in the country is so incessant that it hoodwinks a lot of people into never looking at the reality of what's going on in their own country, what's going on around them.
02:44:40.000Most people are so put off between that phony fight, that WWF between left and right, which we witnessed firsthand up in Boston, that they don't want any part of it, that they don't want to trust any pundits out there or any reporters.
02:44:51.000And of course there's the situation where people are trying to support their lifestyle with their 2.3 cars and 2.3 kids, the nuclear family, working three or four jobs to make that happen.
02:45:00.000They don't have a lot of time to do the homework and do the assessing of the situation.
02:45:40.000Brad, you're on the Alex Jones Radio program with Jack Blood and Paul Joseph Watson.
02:45:46.000Well, I think we are being dumb-dunked when you've got people that listen to shows like yours for a long time that call up and still are confused about the fact that they say George Bush is their president.
02:46:00.000And when they talk about taxpayers' money, when there is no money to be found anywhere, they're not getting the message that's being put out by these shows itself.
02:46:12.000I did call to ask you guys a question, since I got the three big guns right all along.
02:46:17.000If George W. Bush's regime controlled the attack in 9-11 It was all about weapons of mass destruction, and they control the news media like we know, and they control the military, they control all of this.
02:46:33.000Why wasn't weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq?
02:46:56.000Well, yeah, it's because they wanted to keep the troops in the country for that extra amount of time so as to then create the quagmire to keep them in for even longer.
02:47:05.000And if they had found the weapons, then everybody would have rightly said, well, who sold them to Saddam in the first place?
02:47:12.000Maybe the question is though, why did Bush and the Bush administration paint themselves into this impossible corner when they knew that the conclusion would be no WMDs?
02:47:20.000Is that again, good cop, bad cop, to make Americans look bad?
02:47:23.000A preemptive strike with no valuable information?
02:47:53.000And incidentally, last comment, I thought the Holy Blood, Holy Grail was a much better book than the Da Vinci Code.
02:47:59.000Well, I like bloodlines of the Illuminati myself.
02:48:02.000I mean, look, we're going to be pretty ignorant here if we don't understand that these elites have coveted their DNA, their bloodlines, all these years.
02:48:11.000Now, to supplant the hypothetical situation that Dan Brown brings up, that it's all the line of Jesus, of course, Really takes us into the realm of almost impossibility.
02:48:23.000But again, I mean, look at these guys are all cousins.
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02:53:01.000They may be dumbed down, but we aren't believing it, because the listenership on GCN is going up right through the roof.
02:53:09.000Jack, you've got your program coming up in just a little bit, and we've also got Paul Joseph Watson with us, who wrote Order Out of Chaos, THE book, On what's happening today, in my opinion.
02:53:21.000It was the best book I read last year, and I read a lot of good books.
02:53:25.000I've read a lot of good conspiracy books, but this book is incredible.
02:53:30.000Paul, I'm waiting for part two to that.
02:53:35.000Well, I think the plan is to start working on one a little later this year, so it'll probably be early next year sometime.
02:53:42.000It's just amazing how fast this news cycle moves and events around us move that, you know, you can put a great book like this together but literally a year later you can write another book with all the new information.
02:53:53.000Let me ask Paul a real quick question.
02:53:58.000Is he going to win, lose, or what's happening?
02:54:01.000Well, we've got a choice between a party which is pro-war, pro-national ID card, pro-police state, and a party which is pro-war, pro-national ID card, and pro-police state.
02:54:12.000The opposition, Michael Howard, descends directly from Transylvania, so that gives you an idea of the kind of choice we have.
02:54:19.000And yes, Blair will win again, he will get a third term, and they will then introduce the National ID Card as the first piece of legislation in Britain.
02:54:28.000What about the anti-EU movement that's taking place in Britain with people like Trevor Coleman?
02:55:33.000And coming up on your program tonight, you're going to talk about this afternoon, you're going to be talking about what's going on with the toll roads.
02:55:40.000They just keep coming at us, coming at us, coming at us, don't they?