Colonel Craig Roberts joins Alex Jones on the show Friday, 22 April, to discuss the Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11, the Iran-Contra scandal, Bill Gertz, John Negroponte, and much more!
00:00:37.000It is Friday, the 22nd day of April 2005.
00:00:40.000We've got Colonel Craig Roberts, one of the most informed and really on-the-spot investigators who has been researching the Oklahoma City bombing now for ten years since he was first put on the case.
00:00:58.000He'll be joining us for about two hours on the program this Friday.
00:01:04.000We'll be covering a myriad of issues that tie in the government-sponsored terrorism, not just Oklahoma City, but the first World Trade Center bombing, 9-11, you name it.
00:01:17.000First off, I want to thank everybody that came down last night to the Tunes Not Tolls, where Jimmy Vaughn played, Jimmy Vaughn and Friends, Mr. Cotton, the world-famous Harmonic player.
00:01:46.000It was a great time to stand up against just the unbelievable out-of-control arrogance of this government trying to put these transponder tracking toll roads in all over the country with Texas being on the front lines.
00:02:05.000And I'll talk a little bit more about that later.
00:02:11.000But there is so much news here that needs to be covered.
00:02:15.000Negroponte has been sworn in as Intel Chief.
00:02:21.000John Negroponte, the Def Squad Commander, the leader The man involved in Iran-Contra, involved in so many other areas of corruption.
00:02:30.000He's been over in Iraq setting up the death squads.
00:02:35.000And now he's going to be the supreme head of all intelligence, internationally and domestically, in this country.
00:02:47.000So I do want to spend some time on that.
00:02:49.000Also, I've thought this privately for a long time.
00:02:52.000I mean, I don't know if it's the case.
00:02:54.000If not, he is certainly a fellow traveler.
00:04:11.000He was cold and calculated and just had that, uh, that, that, okay, fine, Mr. Jones, ha ha, sure, you'll see who wins.
00:04:22.000He did have the attitude that I've gotten from other people who were admitted, uh, CIA and other members of the shadowy intelligence and propaganda groups.
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00:08:34.000Aid worker uncovered America's secret tally of Iraqi civilian deaths.
00:08:41.000This is out of a London Independent today.
00:08:45.000I remember about a year and a half ago, almost two years ago now, after they had liberated the Iraqis, just a few months into the liberation, they said, Saddam had always tallied the number of deaths from cancer and heart attacks and malnutrition and AIDS and everything else.
00:09:08.000We're no longer going to keep any national statistics on illnesses or death or people that are killed during combat.
00:09:21.000And the news reported it like it was a good thing.
00:09:25.000That way they don't have to let the public in this country know what type of genocide is going on over there.
00:09:32.000I mean, already for twelve and a half years since the beginning of the sanctions and the multiple bombardments of that country's infrastructure and of its people, there were over a million and a half Iraqis that died.
00:10:06.000Propaganda to further scald and sear our conscience, to think all of this is normal, and then to have the dual use of enraging Arab and Muslim populations so they will fight and so they will actually engage in a few of their own badly coordinated terror attacks so the globalists have an even greater reason to go in and attack them.
00:10:31.000And that's the Pentagon's own documents.
00:10:34.000The latest, of course, is P-2-O-G, a six billion dollar a year program, 6.2 billion.
00:10:41.000That's a lot of money to go out and kill Arabs and kill their families to create terrorists.
00:10:49.000We pointed out at the time, well, you're not going to keep any statistics on the numbers of people that are dying over there of all causes.
00:11:04.000And now it's come out in quite a few, the British and even a few American newspapers, that indeed they are keeping numbers of the people that are dead and dying.
00:11:19.000It's actually gotten worse since the liberation there two years ago.
00:11:27.000Aid worker uncovered America's secret tally of Iraqi civilian deaths a week before she was killed by a suicide bomber.
00:11:39.000Humanitarian worker Maria Razkeka Ruska, excuse me, forced military commanders to admit they did keep records of Iraqi civilians killed by U.S.
00:12:12.000But in an essay Uh, that Miss Ruska wrote a week before her death on Saturday and published yesterday.
00:12:22.000The 28-year-old revealed that a Brigadier General told her it was standard operating procedure for U.S.
00:12:29.000troops to file a report when they shoot a noncombatant.
00:12:33.000She obtained figures for the number of civilians killed in Baghdad between the 28th of February and the 5th of April and discovered that 29 had been killed in firefights involving U.S.
00:12:52.000military can and does track civilian casualties, she wrote.
00:12:57.000Troops on the ground keep these records because they recognize they have a responsibility to review each action taken, and that it is in their interest to minimize mistakes, especially since winning the hearts and minds of Iraqis is a key component of their strategy.
00:13:16.000Sam Zai Zarifi, Director, of Asia Division of Human Rights Watch, the group for which she wrote the report, said her discovery was very important because it allows the victims to start demanding compensation.
00:13:31.000He added, at a policy level, they have never admitted they keep these figures.
00:13:36.000Now, the group's own reports and from other Army reports they have, The casualty reports, they say, are at least 17,384, but the group base its total only on deaths reported by the media, and says it can therefore only be a sample of the total actually killed.
00:14:01.000Its website says it is likely, then, that many, if not most, civilian casualties will go unreported by the media.
00:14:15.000Now, very interesting that she's part of an aid group trying to get Iraqis to be able to get compensation for innocents that are killed.
00:14:26.000You know, Mommy and Daddy, or Mommy is out walking down the street to the market and some troops spray machine gun bullets into her because somebody they think is an insurgent is standing 50 yards in front of her.
00:14:40.000They just march on by and there's no compensation.
00:14:43.000Now, you may think they're all animals over there and sub-human.
00:15:31.000And it was reported by mainstream news in Europe and England, and even on a few of the U.S.
00:15:37.000news wires, but never on the nightly news or in the newspaper, That white men, leading a group of Iraqi National Guard, about 25 of them, came in, grabbed her, let her out, that it was on the news that al-Zawahiri had gotten her, al-Qaeda had gotten her, and then they blew her head off, and that was the end of it.
00:15:59.000I mean, why would the insurgents, why would al-Syaida, you know, if al-Qaeda wasn't al-Syaida, why would they go grab this woman with white guys?
00:16:42.000She is sending emails to the aid workers.
00:16:47.000She's got information, about to get compensation.
00:16:52.000And a convenient truck bomb rolls into their aid center and blows up the aid center.
00:16:59.000Aid centers that were there, again, for over a decade.
00:17:06.000People that are against the occupation get truck bombed.
00:17:09.000Now there are some real truck bombs that really are insurgents, and those target police stations and the green zone, but most of them are people getting machine gunned and killed who aren't playing ball, and it's always Al-Qaeda that did it.
00:17:25.000Al-Qaeda is just everywhere, ladies and gentlemen.
00:17:27.000They're just popping up like, like, like groundhogs at the, you know, at springtime or, or, you know, that video game where you try to, it's not a video game, it's a game where you got the mallet and you're trying to hit the, hit the gopher on the head, you know?
00:17:48.000Let's give all our rights up and we'll all be safer.
00:17:52.000And the tally of aid workers and people that are against the occupation that are being killed.
00:17:57.000But that's how arrogant the globalists are.
00:17:59.000I mean, they'll even have, you know, Anglo intelligence officers pull up with their Iraqi attack dogs, their former Ba'athists who are back in power.
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00:18:48.000Tuesday night, the Ripon City Council, with Kurt Prentiss absent, unanimously approved an agenda item that allowed Mayor Chuck Wynn to sign an agreement with Lockheed Martin that will get the ball rolling on the installation of a communications system previously utilized by the military that will allow police officers to see live feeds of various locations throughout town.
00:19:13.000And of course it sounds good on the surface, but Lockheed's been caught putting in the red light cameras, which they run themselves.
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00:19:29.000Lockheed issues you the ticket, and then that's been found to be unconstitutional and illegal.
00:19:34.000That's how we got it thrown out in San Diego.
00:19:37.000But these new control grids that I've talked about come right out of the Pentagon documents.
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00:24:12.000Continuing into this news article, it says the Ripon Insolidated Fire District will also stand to benefit.
00:24:23.000Talking about this control grid, it goes on to say, the system which was originally engineered for use by the United States military during battlefield operations has since been taken over by Motorola, a company renowned for their innovations and leadership in the communications sector.
00:24:40.000Lockheed Martin was hired by the city as an independent information technology consultant on the subject and helped the police chief find the new system that is the right fit for the community like Rypen.
00:24:55.000And it goes on to say they're going to have thumb scanners in the police cars, face scanning cameras everywhere, cameras all over the place constantly tracking you.
00:25:03.000It'll tie into your cell phones that already have the satellite tracker triangulators.
00:25:09.000The Governor of Wisconsin is talking about this.
00:26:08.000Another one of these military training camps where the troops are openly trying to confiscate our guns and that's now, again, mainstream news.
00:26:29.000And one guy called the Governor last time.
00:26:32.000I'd like to see if I can get some more people to call.
00:26:34.000Okay, real fast, because I've got a lot of callers here, sir.
00:26:37.000There's a clear channel station here called K2 Radio, and just as plain as day, yesterday I heard them announce on their news blip between English Blimbaugh that Russian troops are now training in Platt County at Camp Guernsey in Wyoming.
00:26:52.000Well, the government said if we're tied down in the war on terror overseas, foreign assets will be used.
00:27:01.000I got a problem with the Peruvian Army, British Royal Air Force, and now Russian troops.
00:27:06.000Announced on clear channel as though it's just... Well, I mean, they admit it was just in the Oregonian that these camps are to deal with evil civilians, evil homeschoolers.
00:27:16.000And the governor's done nothing to stop it.
00:27:18.000And it's all financed by the Wyoming Highway Patrol.
00:27:20.000Okay, well, if you want to give the number, I'll go ahead.
00:27:21.000Okay, the regular number is 777, area code 307-777-7434, extension 8514.
00:28:02.000the scripters and everything like that about how Timothy McVeigh and on Nichols you know were the supposed plotters and blowing up the federal mural building and stuff just in case you want to hear it I got it ready to roll here for you not that long well I think we know that's what they've always said so like that but you know it's only about a not too long about a five-minute clip but I'll cut it down to maybe two I really don't have time to air that right now I apologize.
00:28:32.000Plus, I mean, if it was Keating saying, we found bombs in the buildings like he did that day, I definitely would want to air that.
00:28:39.000But I mean, that's just basically airing a whole party line, Dwayne.
00:28:44.000And then he talked about how After supposedly, you know, the attacks and stuff like that, he had Dick Cheney, Vice President, come down.
00:28:53.000Had a little fundraiser for a national charter and stuff, how he paid off the victims of the attacks and stuff like that.
00:29:00.000Had Worshipping Bill Clinton coming down.
00:29:03.000And so forth, so... Yeah, it was Dick Cheney and Bill Clinton worshipping together, and we should give all our rights up to the nice men in black uniforms, or the bombs will get us, yeah.
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00:33:26.000Well, the decorated Marine Corps sniper, Army colonel, police detective, SWAT team commander, helicopter, police pilot, Detective on the Oklahoma City case, best-selling author, researcher.
00:33:42.000I mean, really, Craig Roberts is a good personal friend of mine.
00:33:45.000And we're going to have him with us for the entire broadcast.
00:33:50.000That is the time we've got left, two hours and twenty-something minutes to today.
00:33:55.000And I'm working on Charles Key coming on, the state rep who really exposed Oklahoma City.
00:33:59.000They invited me up to speak at the 10th anniversary and I wish I could have gone, but I've just completed the new Phil Marshall Law, and I was trying to finish these Arnold ads, which I've now finished the ad that I made.
00:34:10.000We've gotten the contest there, but I would have loved to have gotten up there.
00:34:14.000We're working on getting Charles Key on, spur of the moment, later in the broadcast today.
00:34:19.000You talk about a real police officer, somebody who serves the people, and not the state, as that song was just saying.
00:34:26.000He'll be joining us here in a few minutes.
00:34:28.000But right now, let's go back to your calls.
00:34:30.000Just a few of them that have been holding along is Keith, Anthony, and John.
00:34:34.000You've got to move quick, because I don't want to make our guests wait.
00:34:38.000Okay, Alex, just about 60 seconds there.
00:34:41.000I really appreciate all the work you're doing there.
00:34:43.000Some of Satan's greatest work, you know, is an imitation gospel.
00:34:48.000You know, there's a couple websites I have real quick.
00:34:50.000Through the Bible, ttb.org and wayofthemaster.com are great Christian websites.
00:34:56.000There's so many people who think they're saved or not, and it's based on a heart relationship of trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ alone, because we're all going to die someday.
00:35:06.000And people read Mark chapter 4, Romans 7, and You know, it's based on what the Lord Jesus Christ did, and having a relationship, not on our own good works.
00:35:17.000And another quick thing, you know, the Russian leaders said they couldn't get to America in years past because of our morality and religion, where so much of that has deteriorated, and now kind of the immune system, as they say, is down, and people need to read Jeremiah 19, so.
00:35:36.000You've got to have an immoral population to have slaves.
00:35:42.000That's how you take a people from freedom to slavery.
00:35:46.000Is you've got to get them distracted on the more bestial levels of the mind so they won't defend themselves, so they won't defend their neighbors.
00:35:54.000You've got to get people thinking about themselves first.
00:36:00.000When you get that attitude then the civilization falls apart.
00:36:04.000Because the truth is when you only care about yourself You've just destroyed yourself.
00:36:09.000You've just created an atmosphere where corruption breeds and where despotism takes over.
00:36:16.000Anthony in Louisiana, go ahead, you're on the air.
00:36:18.000Hey Alex, you used to talk a lot in the past about An article or a study or something that said that public technology has fallen behind like 50 years from real technology?
00:36:47.000This is probably what you're talking about.
00:36:49.000Uh, the SR-71 Blackbird was in flight in 1955, uh, being tested.
00:36:56.000It was in service in 1958, and it was taken out of service 20-something years ago, and they still claim it's the fastest plane in the world.
00:38:15.000And again, for those that don't know what Anthony's bringing up here, Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center.
00:38:22.000And a couple million dollars worth of TV ads and print ads have now run in New York, asking him what he meant by that and he will not respond.
00:38:30.000I mean, if you were running millions of dollars of ads about me, and saying I've blown buildings up, I'd respond.
00:38:39.000But again, it's not just his statement, it's everything else.
00:38:42.000Firefighters told an AP photographer and others, get back, we're about to bring the building down.
00:38:48.000It was on local radio, they were about to pull it.
00:39:01.000Yes, I wanted to talk about Oklahoma City and some of the Bill Gertz party line types who are pushing the official Bush-Cheney version of LCI Ada and Oklahoma City.
00:39:14.000But just before that, I just wanted to mention ZMAG.org.
00:39:18.000You've got a lot of the independent journalists, not the prostitute-embedded journalists over there who have documented a lot of the cold-blooded slaughter and murder by the U.S.
00:39:27.000military of people... And they're the journalists that get killed, and then they blame it on Al-Syeda!
00:39:33.000And I'd like to mention two of these party-blind types who are now coming out of the woodwork, I believe.
00:39:40.000I was listening to KDKA Radio, which I think you've been on,
00:39:43.000I called in after this person was on, and it was Jada Davis, and she's written a book that is really pushing the party line on steroids, the Bush-Cheney party line on Oklahoma City, trying to get a Mideast connection, an Iraqi connection, completely whitewashing the fact that the Iraqis in this country, as you pointed out, were actually agents of the CIA in Oklahoma City.
00:40:11.000And, uh, I called in and I said that they should have you on again, apparently on KDKRadio.com, I guess you could get in touch with them if you want to do it yourself.
00:40:22.000And I just have to insist that listening to another person I think is pushing the Bush-Cheney line, and I think the reason that he's the favorite on this ultra-arch-war-monger Art Bell over the years is Stephen Quayle.
00:40:36.000I listened to him last night and he was peddling the same kind of line about Al-Syed being, you know, this independent group that's out to get us, and the nuke case, the suitcase nukes and the rest of it, had a guest on, peddling that kind of line.
00:40:50.000So I think if you're going to criticize Michael Moore from partially pushing that whitewash, I think Steven Quayle does it in spades.
00:40:58.000Alright, thank you for the call, John.
00:41:00.000Let me briefly comment on what you just said, and then move on.
00:41:03.000Steve Quayle believes that it is a group above our government controlling Al-Qaeda, and I totally agree with it.
00:41:10.000I mean, George Bush certainly knows about it.
00:41:41.000As for Jaina Davis, I think Jaina's done a good job exposing that it is John Doe number two and John Doe number one and all these other people involved and that there was a Mideast connection.
00:42:14.000I was one of the speakers at the Oklahoma City conference that we just finished up with.
00:42:18.000It was one of those deals where we had a lot of great speakers, a lot of great information, but the attendance could have been a lot better.
00:42:25.000We had, I think, maybe 50 or 60 people end up showing up where there should have been thousands.
00:42:30.000You have a lot of incredible speakers.
00:42:32.000I should have gotten you guys on to promote it.
00:42:35.000Well, you know, they passed out 3,000 flyers, and they got with the news media, and they did all kinds of press releases.
00:42:41.000See, mainstream news, I've found, doesn't get a response.
00:42:46.000I mean, like I've said, I've gone on Good Morning America and plugged my website twice, and we don't get any visitors to the website, and I go on some little Christian station and plug the website, and we get tens of thousands of visitors.
00:42:58.000Well, you know, most of the people who watch the mainstream media on a consistent basis... They're jellyfish!
00:43:22.000I mean, it was like in ten minutes before we were supposed to start, the place was half empty and by the time we started, it was a standing room.
00:43:29.000I think everybody comes to the last minute.
00:43:32.000Now, but, Craig, let's respond to what the last caller was just saying.
00:43:41.000Talking about Jaina Davis, I mean, I've heard her, and she lost her job over this, and we got clips of her in my film, Road to Tyranny, and, you know, she has documented that there were Arabs involved, but then we've got to go to the next question, well, then why'd the government cover that up, Colonel?
00:43:57.000Well, you know, this is the same thing that we've been Hashing over, you know, for 10 years now.
00:44:03.000Jaina was, you know, kind of a part of our ad hoc team back in the very beginning.
00:44:07.000You know, for a lot of the listeners that aren't up to speed on this, I'll do a quick recap.
00:44:14.000I was full-time with Tulsa Police Department.
00:44:17.000And on day three of the bombing, I was assigned by the Chief of Police at the FBI's request to work with the FBI and try to come up with what, who McVeigh was, where he's been.
00:44:27.000And anything else I could discover about the bombing to add to the intake of material.
00:44:33.000And within six months it got to the point to where I got so tired of being lied to and seeing evidence destroyed and witnesses intimidated and reports changed that I told them I just can't work with you anymore because my passion is the truth, not politics.
00:44:48.000So that kind of put me where I was kind of a loose cannon, but by that time I'd already made several acquaintances down in Oklahoma City with other people like Dana Davis, David Hoffman, Jimmy Rothstein, and several others.
00:45:00.000And we were able to start using bits and pieces of what we all got and put it together in one big pile and sift through it and find out what really happened.
00:45:09.000Jaina was one who was of course a news reporter for Channel 4 and I spoke to her many times and I've seen the original videos uncut that she did of the different interviews and the mock-ups and the recreation of what happened using computer graphics and so on.
00:45:27.000And everything that she has come up with fits what the witnesses said, fits every piece of information that we could develop.
00:45:35.000And these witnesses are firefighters, police detectives, people that were there.
00:45:41.000And the surveillance cameras that the government has declared national security on.
00:45:46.000You know what's incredible, Alex, and I'm sure for the next couple of hours we're going to be able to go down a lot of hallways here, but what's incredible, that brings to mind the fact that you've got government attorneys who in court We'll say that you can't trust witness testimony, then they turn around and they bring a felon who was in prison out as a witness and use him to testify against you because he was a snitch.
00:46:11.000You know, I mean, they take the worst credible person, they'll put him on the stand and you get somebody who works a good job, has a perfect work record, who's 100% reliable, as steady as they come, put them on the stand and then they say, well, eyewitness testimony isn't reliable.
00:46:24.000When you've got four or five or eight or ten eyewitnesses that saw the same thing, you know, that's pretty darn reliable.
00:46:30.000You know, I worked traffic accidents when I was a cop and you'd get three people that saw the accident and three versions of what happened.
00:46:35.000But on the Oklahoma City bombing, everybody agreed.
00:46:38.000They all added things to it, you know.
00:46:42.000Maybe they varied on the shade of the color of a car or something like that.
00:46:47.000One will say mustard and another will say yellow.
00:46:49.000But all in all, we had a very clear picture within the first 72 hours of what happened.
00:46:54.000And we knew we had two Middle Easterners standing in front of the front door because many people that we interviewed had walked right by them and said, this is odd.
00:47:01.000There's two Middle Eastern guys in blue jogging suits.
00:47:03.000They call them Arabs and things like that.
00:47:05.000Standing at the front door, scowling, looking around, seemed to be nervous, and of course they went on to work because they weren't anticipating anything like this happening.
00:47:13.000We weren't really prepared to go to war, you know.
00:47:16.000Uh, and with Islam at the time, so we weren't mentally prepared to say, hey, gee, there's a problem.
00:47:23.000So what happened was, uh, uh, what they had, what they did, and this is according to all of the things that we could piece together, McVeigh was supposed to drive the Ryder truck up front, which is, I call it the Manleaker Carcano Ryder truck, because it's, it's the false lead in the whole thing.
00:47:41.000But he drives up, but when he gets a block away, there's a UPS truck parked right in front of the building.
00:47:47.000Well, with a UPS truck parked in front of the building, taken above the parking place, he had to stop right across the street from the post office, which is a block west.
00:47:54.000So, this book, American Terror, that these two bozos up in Buffalo, New York wrote, that are supposed to be these great investigative journalists, that had him lighting fuses and driving right straight in, that was a pack of lies.
00:48:16.000Walks behind the truck, stands on the sidewalk, and has an animated conversation with another Middle Eastern male who's shorter than him with curly dark hair.
00:48:23.000I mean, we get very good descriptions here.
00:48:25.000It's not just like he talked to a guy.
00:48:48.000Why wouldn't they use the video of McVeigh by himself, if this is true, in the court case?
00:48:54.000Well, obviously, McVeigh's not by himself.
00:48:56.000You know, our deal was, okay, show us the tape, show us the Zapruder film, show us how many people got out of the truck, because you're saying, you know, the government is saying that
00:49:07.000The contrary to Elliott's truck rental people up there in Kansas that McVeigh showed up with another guy and another guy was waiting outside which made three that they had mistaken and they changed it and McVeigh came alone and the next day Todd Bunting an army private who was moving to the east coast came alone and they had confused them and well you go back to Elliott's today and they'll say no we never did say that the FBI said that but we didn't say it so uh...
00:49:35.000You've got those two right there with McVeigh, and you've got the two in front of the door of the Murr Building that hold the parking place for him when the UPS truck drives away.
00:49:47.000And then you've got the one in the truck that's riding with him, who we know who he is, picked up by witnesses who identified him off photographs.
00:49:54.000And we've got another one standing on a curb.
00:49:55.000So now we're dealing with four to six of these guys.
00:49:58.000We know that there's a cell of twelve of them.
00:50:00.000We identified all twelve in this cell.
00:50:03.000Even the local news and undercover reports went and shot video.
00:50:07.000The police intelligence unit went and shot video of them.
00:50:11.000We've even got some of that video in the film.
00:50:13.000Greg, when we get back though, for people that just joined us, I want to first put in a nutshell from your decade of investigation since day one.
00:50:21.000what you believe clearly happened on April 19, 1995 and then I want to go through all of the evidence and take phone calls into the next hour.
00:50:32.000So we're going to break and we'll come back.
00:50:34.000The website for Colonel Craig Roberts' information is RifleWarrior.com RifleWarrior.com of course he's the best-selling author of One Shot One Killed Marine Corps Sniper in Vietnam He's also written some other best-selling books.
00:50:53.000We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, on the other side of this quick break, so stay with us.
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00:54:20.000With Al-Cieda, I want to get into Oklahoma City, but also at the same time Waco, which happened two years before that, 12 years ago on April 19th.
00:54:29.000I want to get into just a few weeks before Waco, the FBI bombing.
00:54:33.000They cooked the bombs, framed the driver, gave him the detonators, told him to go ahead with the bombing, and he freaked out and tried to expose them.
00:54:41.000There were the first World Trade Center attack.
00:54:43.000I want to go over all that with Craig Roberts.
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00:56:47.000Colonel Roberts, we've got two minutes before the break.
00:57:03.000Well, you know, I think the key to the whole thing was everything that is important on any event happens on day one, hour one, hour two, hour three, and by day two they've spun everything and they've cleaned it up and you're not going to see the same stuff.
00:57:15.000In Oklahoma City, the most important thing that struck me as being odd was that they stopped rescuing people who were trapped in the rubble, pulled everybody back, and set their other explosives in the building when, yeah, there probably were, but at the same time, what they really did is they came in with 50 guys and they started removing boxes of records.
00:57:34.000Now, that building had no agency in it.
00:57:36.000That had any types of records that would be so important that you would let people die or be trapped in rubble and not try to rescue them while the smoke still hung in the air that you would have to go rescue records instead.
00:57:48.000And when Gene Pogue, the FBI spokesman at the scene, was talking to the media and they asked him why are they doing this, he said, well, it's unfortunate, but, you know, these records have to be taken out of the building.
00:57:59.000And they came in and they even got filing cabinets out and loaded them up on trucks.
00:58:04.000Now the question we have to ask ourselves is why Oklahoma City?
00:58:08.000You know, I worked with the British Army in England and they didn't even know where Oklahoma was.
00:58:11.000I had to draw a map of the United States, point to Dallas and say drive north.
00:58:15.000So if the Brits don't even know where Oklahoma City is, how would the Arabs know where Oklahoma City is, and why Oklahoma City?
00:58:20.000I mean, if you were going to do something to attack America, and we know that... Bottom line, Colonel, you know who did it.
00:58:28.000Give us your take on who was behind it.
00:58:30.000Well, I think the records, as I was told by a telephone call from a guy who said he was a federal agent, were the MENA records of the drugs running that ran through MENA, Arkansas.
00:58:40.000And when the Clintons went through Washington, they were taken to Oklahoma City.
00:59:27.000It's Friday, already into the second hour.
00:59:32.000We're talking to Colonel Craig Roberts about Oklahoma City.
00:59:37.000Ten years and what, three days later, it's clear that it was a globalist bombing, a globalist controlled bombing meant to usher in a police state.
00:59:48.000And at the same time, the Clintons used it as a place to stow their MENA drug-running records, and as people were dying and bleeding to death, they pulled all the rescue workers out for hours so they could get all of that material out of there, which then disappeared.
01:00:03.000They then blew up the wreckage of the building later and buried it under guard at a landfill where it's guarded today by men with guns.
01:00:13.000Very interesting, and we have the reports of these Arabs on scene, the surveillance camera tapes, all of it.
01:00:18.000Why won't the government release that?
01:00:20.000And if it was Arabs acting alone from Iraq, why wouldn't the media use that?
01:00:26.000Because these were Arabs that were brought into the U.S.
01:00:28.000by George Herbert Walker Bush, and of course then Bill Clinton, and uh... Craig I mean, let's just cut right to the heart of the matter.
01:00:39.000There's so much evidence, we could talk about the evidence for hours, and we will get into it, then I want to take some calls, coming up here in a few minutes.
01:00:44.000But, bottom line, we know these Arabs were brought into the U.S., we know when police got them, they were ordered to release them.
01:00:51.000We know that they won't release the surveillance camera tapes.
01:00:55.000I mean, it's clear who these Arabs were being protected by.
01:00:58.000And then you've got all these other groups with the Elohim City and the white supremacists tied in.
01:01:03.000Was this a bigger operation that They were going to use the demonized domestic groups tied in with arrows, and then they decided to go ahead and compartmentalize the operation?
01:01:14.000I mean, what do you think really happened here?
01:01:16.000Well, you know, this is one of those typical off-the-shelf operations, just like the Kennedy assassination was, in Dealey Plaza.
01:01:22.000In fact, there's so many parallels between the Kennedy assassination and the way the investigation was handled afterwards.
01:01:28.000In Oklahoma City, it looks like they used the same blueprint.
01:01:33.000We know, and here's the thing, what they're trying to do is they muddy the water by having various news media types poke up and say, gee, this goes all the way to Al-Qaeda.
01:02:01.000They were not working for Saddam Hussein.
01:02:04.000They weren't working for Osama Bin Laden or Al Qaeda.
01:02:08.000They were working for somebody else who provided them with houses, provided them with funding, provided them with cover and protection.
01:02:15.000That was our own government that did these guys, and then refused to pick them up, no matter what Jayna Davis developed, no matter what I developed, or anybody else.
01:02:22.000We could not force the FBI to even bring these guys in for questioning, even though all the eyewitnesses picked them out of photographs and said, that's the guy that did it.
01:02:29.000Now, if you have a bank robbery, or if you have a murder, you know, and you get a witness that looks at mud shots and say, hey, that's the guy I saw right there.
01:02:37.000And they're all saying it was independent of each other.
01:02:39.000Yeah, you know, you're going to go out, you're going to pick this guy up, Um, and talk to him, especially we've got three different witnesses who don't even know each other pointing at the same picture and saying, and one of them even telling you the guy's name.
01:02:51.000That was the barmaid in Oklahoma City that saw McVeigh and Husseini together and knew them both by name.
01:02:57.000Uh, and she didn't, she wasn't even called to testify at the trial.
01:03:00.000Uh, so, you know, when you take an investigation like that and you're sitting there as a police officer and you're saying, hey, we got bad guys, let's go pick them up.
01:03:06.000And they're going, we can't because the Clinton White House and Janet Reno says there is no Middle Eastern connection.
01:03:12.000And the deal was, they just had a block put on that whole end of the investigation.
01:03:17.000And all of a sudden, the strangest thing happened on day five, is that the whole thing shifted over to the right wing, the militia, you know, who knows who, anybody on the right wing was the natural... The talk radio!
01:03:31.000Yeah, talk radio, hate radio, and all the rest of it.
01:03:34.000And when we get back from break, let's talk about where that came from.
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01:07:26.000And again, this story, a 10-year investigation, we could spend 10 hours just on it alone, but we know we have these Iraqis brought in by the U.S.
01:07:34.000government, the Iraqis during the 80s who were trained here in this country in suppression of populations, in bombings, in just basic military tactics.
01:07:48.000Bush Senior and Bill Clinton bring in between thirty five hundred and five and a half thousand.
01:07:55.000The Washington Post and others have reported thirty five hundred, but that's just one wave of these individuals.
01:08:02.000Then they're there at the scene, all these witnesses, police, workers, you know, everybody sees them there.
01:08:09.000We have all these different surveillance cameras, FBI agents have set on record, yeah it showed Middle Easterners there, but We're not allowed to talk about it.
01:08:17.000All this going on, then you have these individuals trying to leave the country.
01:09:02.000And it's really the test model case for what we see today with 9-11 and the rest of it and how it ties back into the first World Trade Center bombing in '93, where the FBI admittedly cooked the bomb and trained the driver and told them to go ahead with the bombing and let it take place.
01:09:19.000All of this happening, all of this going on, and then now we have Bill Clinton and Dick Cheney up there for the anniversary.
01:09:28.000And Bill Clinton on Air Force One in 1996 said, I owed my re-election, was his quote, to Oklahoma City.
01:09:36.000That's what got his approval ratings back up.
01:09:41.000Craig, let's try to encapsulate from all the evidence.
01:09:44.000If you had to go before a jury, or we made you king for a day, you could go arrest uh... the people that you believe were behind this from the mountains of evidence what would you do?
01:09:59.000You know, there's so many different directions on this.
01:10:02.000For one thing, we've still got Terry Nichols, and we still have him alive, and we still have his trips to the Philippines, and that whole area over there should be exploded.
01:10:11.000I mean, it should be just wide open, and from there, we can go in several different directions.
01:10:17.000We've got a couple of others in jail that are his buddies that know who all the players were in this deal, and they were involved in Oklahoma City, or at least the planning of it.
01:10:24.000And so we've got at least a dozen Iraqis that we could start out with.
01:10:28.000We've got their boss down in Oklahoma City who we know who he is and he's still running around.
01:10:33.000And I would turn around and I would pick up about ten of the FBI agents that were involved in this and bring them in if I was sitting in the Oval Office and have them stand in front of my desk one at a time.
01:10:44.000And we would get to the bottom of why they lied about this, why they lied about that, why they did all of the things they did.
01:11:50.000All you have to do is say, our investigation proved it did not happen that way.
01:11:53.000And that's what they did with the Oklahoma City bomb.
01:11:55.000They did, with the greatest investigation of all time, you know, 30 gazillion documents, 2,000 agents, 15 million dollars, yadda yadda yadda, and we proved that it didn't happen the way that Jannie Davis said it did.
01:12:39.000And I'd start going up the chain of command from there and start making arrests.
01:12:45.000Let's try to encapsulate this and then go to some calls because I think the murder of these doctors and police officers and others are very important.
01:12:54.000First off, let's tell people who one of the doctors is, tell them about Terrence Yakey, and then let's tell those stories.
01:13:37.000You don't want anything to do with this.
01:13:38.000And I've talked to several Oklahoma City officers since, and they were all told, this is a federal case, you don't talk about it, I don't care what you think, you don't report it, if you reported something, destroy the report, and so on.
01:13:49.000Also, again, with Mr. Yakey, he'd been cop of the year.
01:13:54.000He'd been police officer of the year and so on, and one day after he'd been harassed by his own chain of command, followed by federal agents, his apartment had been broken into, things had been taken, he had everything in a briefcase, And he called a friend, he said, I'm on my way out of town, I've got to go by the headquarters, and they're going to cue me out again, and then I'm going to go out to my mini-storage out in El Reno or Yukon, one of the towns west of Oklahoma City.
01:14:15.000He says, and I'm going to drop my stuff off where they can't find it this time.
01:14:18.000He says, and we'll have dinner when I get back.
01:14:20.000Now this isn't the guy that's going to go out and commit suicide.
01:14:23.000But he's found the next morning by the Canadian County Sheriff's Office, and he had several cuts inside each wrist.
01:15:27.000You tear it up if you want, but mine's going public.
01:15:30.000They're not supposed to destroy police reports.
01:15:32.000Well, they're not, but he wasn't, I don't think he was gonna, he ordered me to do away with it as the guy that wrote it.
01:15:39.000He wanted to reject it, and I just wouldn't do that, and so I ended up putting it in my book, The Medusa File, and it's also on my website.
01:15:46.000If you want to go over there, just scroll down to the Oklahoma City Report, click on that, and you can read the whole thing.
01:15:50.000So they're ordering you to destroy it, too.
01:15:53.000But, I mean, Terrence Yankee was a happy man, family man, cop of the year.
01:16:52.000Number two, if you'll go to my website and look at those drawings, you'll see that on the gunshot, it shows a contact wound of a barrel imprint, but no powder burns.
01:17:02.000Now the only, and it's a small caliber, like a .32, goes from the top right of the skull down to the left cheek.
01:17:07.000So they haven't been shooting from four or five feet away?
01:17:24.000The flame and the powder that normally would blow the skid away when it exits a muzzle on a contact wound is absorbed inside the silencer instead.
01:17:33.000And they also, by the way, I found out they had taken the entire... His car was parked in a road nearby and there's just very little blood in it.
01:17:41.000But they took the entire interior out of the car and put it back in.
01:17:45.000They were looking for that briefcase or looking for something.
01:17:48.000They also found a knife that had his blood on it, but it was stashed up under the dashboard on top of the heater.
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01:23:34.000Well, he knew Yakey, and his main, I think, sticking point to the dark side forces was that one of the ATF agents came up and said, I want you to bandage me up, because I fell in an elevator or something like that.
01:23:50.000And he said, well, I don't see anything wrong with you.
01:24:42.000And he had, I think, four people on board, including himself.
01:24:45.000And they were coming back from New Mexico on a hunting trip.
01:24:48.000And then the plane, all of a sudden, fell straight down out of the sky and impacted in a cabbage field near Shamrock, Texas.
01:24:56.000I was, of course, with the Air Support Unit of the Police Department then, so I had a lot of contacts inside the FAA.
01:25:01.000I called the FAA investigator down there to find out what happened.
01:25:06.000Officially, he said the report will show that it's under investigation and there is probably going to be pilot error, possibly a heart attack or something like that.
01:25:16.000Later, I find out unofficially That, number one, the airplane, there's no way, and I've worked a lot of crashes, there's no way that an airplane is going to fall straight down out of the sky.
01:25:26.000That doesn't happen unless you lose the wings.
01:25:28.000And still, you've got a parabolic curve because you're going forward, you know, 12,000 feet or something like that at 160 miles an hour.
01:25:35.000Even if you pull the wings off, the airplane is an artillery shell.
01:25:38.000It's still going to have a curve to it.
01:25:58.000It killed everybody on board and later they could find nothing mechanically wrong with any component on the airplane.
01:26:04.000So they started doing the checks and found out that at first they said it was a weather problem, it flew into bad weather.
01:26:10.000Well the weather was fine that day and even if he had, he was an instrument rated pilot, Another government report was that he was a low-time pilot that was just barely above a student and didn't know what he was doing.
01:26:41.000What it appears happened was something was on that airplane.
01:26:44.000This is the only thing that I can think of.
01:26:45.000It's my theory that there was something on that airplane that, after the last refueling stop, they climbed to altitude, they talked to a center, they said they got their new course heading and altitude, then that was the last conversation they had with them.
01:26:59.000I imagine there was something on the airplane that erupted with a poison gas or something that incapacitated everybody on the airplane because no one tried to take any corrective action when the airplane started spinning down.
01:27:10.000It came straight down and there was nothing wrong with the flight controls.
01:27:32.000attorney and i don't remember his name off hand but he was trying to be a good guy to get to the bottom of this and he was objecting to the way the government uh... justice department handling it and he was found uh... on the steps of the church uh... had blown his head off uh... not not too long afterwards so you know that uh... these typical clinton-esque suicides that keep mounting up like ron brown and vince foster all over the place uh... you know the the air force colonel into the autopsy said he'd been shot in the head Right.
01:28:02.000And, uh, you know, I mean, if you just look at the Clinton deaths alone, you had over 50-something of those guys.
01:28:07.000So, you're going all the way back to the boys on the tracks at MENA.
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01:32:34.000Craig, before we go to these loaded phone lines and then later get into Waco and 9-11 and the first World Trade Center bombing and then things like Operation Northwoods and Operation Gladio and the admitted U.S.
01:32:47.000government plans to carry out terrorist attacks to be blamed on enemies or for domestic control, tell folks how they can get some of your great books and materials and believe me folks, they are excellent.
01:32:59.000Well, you know, the New York City books that I did, including the new one that's a follow-up to One Shot One Kill... By that you mean the big establishment mainstream books?
01:33:08.000Right, the ones that I managed to sneak a few books through occasionally was Crosshairs on the Kill Zone.
01:33:13.000It's the brand new one that's just come out here this year, and it's out there about military snipers from Vietnam all the way up to Iraq.
01:33:20.000And the other books, The Medusa File, Crimes and Cover-Ups of the U.S. Government, which is a must-read.
01:33:28.000In fact, I gave one to Congressman Bob Barr when he was here.
01:33:31.000He was our keynote speaker down at the rally.
01:33:33.000And his eyes just kind of got big on that.
01:33:37.000He thinks that some of the people that were down there said that every member of Congress ought to get one of these.
01:33:41.000But The Medusa File is there on my website at riflewarrior.com.
01:33:47.000And as is Killzone, a sniper looks at Dele Plasma.
01:33:51.000Now if you get both of those books, you've got the book that my agent could not sell in New York City a few years back because none of the publishing houses would touch it because of the information that was in there.
01:34:00.000Later I found out that CIA's Operation Monkey Bird, it does exist and it does control what goes through these publishing houses.
01:34:07.000So that book had to be published through Consolidated Press, which is not a New York City publisher.
01:34:13.000Also, I have resurrected Alex, and a lot of your listeners are going to be glad to hear this, because we did two printings of a book called JFK, The Dead Witnesses, where I chronicled what happened to all of the witnesses around the JFK case, 115 of them.
01:34:26.000Some of them died by what we might say the natural causes, but most of them under mysterious circumstances.
01:34:31.000I tell you who they are, what happened to them, and what they knew, and what connection they had to the case.
01:34:36.000After two printings, We let that book go out of print because it didn't sell fast enough to justify storing it.
01:34:43.000I had so many requests that I have now put it in PDF format for Adobe Acrobat and put it on my website.
01:34:50.000So you can go there on the website, scroll down and click on JFK the Dead Witnesses and there's the book on Adobe.
01:34:56.000You can print it out, read it, whatever you want to do.
01:34:59.000We're doing the same thing with some other books that I wrote on there.
01:35:02.000We're putting them in PDF format so that we can get the information out to people.
01:36:35.000Let's look at the progression of events because it all fits together.
01:36:38.000Nixon was to open the door to China and make them friends and then get us out of Vietnam.
01:36:42.000And then Carter was to give away the Panama Canal knowing that it would go to the Chinese.
01:36:48.000And then Reagan, you know, we had George Bush Sr.
01:36:52.000under him that got all the drug running going real good through MENA and all the rest of it out of Columbia.
01:36:58.000Plus, his deal when he became president was to expend our weaponry and Gulf War run.
01:37:06.000Get rid of all the cruise missiles, you know, use the tomahawks up, use up all of our assets and then disband the military as much as possible.
01:37:12.000So Carlisle Group could buy it for nothing.
01:37:16.000And then, of course, we have Clinton comes along.
01:37:18.000His job is to destroy what's left of the military as much as he can in closed bases, which he reduced the numbers of planes and fighter squadrons.
01:37:24.000He put the ships in mothballs, reduced the number of ships.
01:37:27.000Took the launch codes off the submarines.
01:38:27.000They were told ten years ago at the Cascade Course in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas by General Barry McCaffrey That should we be deployed to the point, with the build-out of the forces being what they are, should we be deployed at two fronts overseas where we've got Afghanistan and we've got Iran right now, we've also got Korea and we could have China if they invade Taiwan.
01:39:43.000Because we know the New World Order, we know China's economy is about to be bigger than ours, we know they're putting all their infrastructure in over there, they're the new model country, they're de-industrializing this nation, and then they're using America, the fumes in the gas tank, to empower this New World Order, then we'll take the blame for it.
01:40:04.000I mean, how do you see this unfolding?
01:40:06.000Well, you know, as a battlefield intel type, I've been watching it unfold, and you've got Costco, and you've got Hudson-Wampoa, which is basically the merchant marine for the Chinese Army, has set up the biggest forward-deployed resupply station in Freeport and the Bahamas, 90 miles off our shore.
01:40:30.000And anyway, if you go to look up Hutchinson-Wampoa, if you go to look up Cosco or Freeport-Bahamas, and you'll see the biggest ocean shipping point and cranes in the world down there with all these boxes already sitting there sealed, ready to go.
01:41:14.000We have no one left here to watch the chickens.
01:41:17.000And the only thing... No one has been ordered to stand down, even if they're tracking a thousand inbound missiles.
01:41:22.000Well, the only thing that we have going for us right now is the Second Amendment and people who believe it.
01:41:28.000The only thing... We have the biggest armed citizenry in the world, and this scares the heck out of them because, you know, you can't fight a guerrilla army with a conventional army.
01:41:43.000You have to fight an unconventional army.
01:41:45.000When you've got a population base like the United States, armed as well as we are, Even though most of us are pretty on in years with gray hair right now, but we've got a lot of people with combat experience around.
01:42:29.000First of all, I want to tell you guys how much I respect and admire you guys for what you do.
01:42:32.000I'm really grateful that you're there.
01:42:35.000I've had something that's bothered me for years that happened within my family, and it had to do with the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:42:42.000About nine months before the bombing took place, I have a really close relative that I was heavily involved in the National Militia groups and was for years and he sent a letter to me and to several other family members and that stated that the National Militia was going to show a show of force on this specific date, about nine months from the letter that was sent out.
01:43:07.000And I didn't think much of it at the time, but the date that he stated in the letter was the exact date of the Oklahoma City bombing.
01:43:18.000When this happened, we tried to present this to some news media, but no one would listen to it at all.
01:43:23.000Well, you've got to understand that McVeigh was a sheep-dipped government operative.
01:43:28.000He was traveling around to literally hundreds of meetings, creating a ledger, creating a story to then blame the militia and go all the way with it, and then to tie that in with white supremacists and even try to tie it in with Arabs.
01:43:42.000But for some reason, I guess because there were so many witnesses that saw these Arabs with McVeigh, knew it was a government ob, they didn't go with the full story.
01:44:05.000The Northwest Bank Robber, That really didn't go any place.
01:44:10.000Jesse Trinidad and I managed to take three FBI memos here just last month.
01:44:17.000The three memos were all the same memo, but they had come from three different offices.
01:44:22.000These three different offices had redacted parts where they had blacked out some of the words, but they didn't do the same words.
01:44:28.000So we were able to put the three memos together and we came up with this one.
01:44:31.000I just want to read two paragraphs of it.
01:44:35.000This goes along to explain a lot because why did the media switch from Arabs on day one to the right wing on day five and stay there when we had nothing going that direction?
01:44:46.000And then we found out... For those who don't know, Trinidad is a lawyer out of Utah.
01:44:50.000His brother was tortured to death by the government.
01:44:52.000Right, and he's been suing them ever since and doing FOIAs and getting these different documents, and we've been going over them.
01:44:57.000But he's... I checked with my contacts in the media, and they said they were getting all this right-wing, did-it information from two places.
01:45:04.000That was the Southern Poverty Law Center with Morris Dees... ADL.
01:45:10.000They had a defamation league of the benign brief, which makes no sense whatsoever, because they should have been... Yeah, Arabs, we told you so.
01:45:19.000It says, information has also been received through the Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC, that one Andrus Strassmeyer, a.k.a. Andy the German, evidently received a telephone call from Timothy McVeigh on or about 417.95, two days prior to the Oak Bomb attack, when Strassmeyer, per a source of the SPLC, was in the white when Strassmeyer, per a source of the SPLC, was in the white supremacist's compound at Elohim Strassmeyer allegedly has had a lengthy relationship with Timothy McVeigh, one of two indicted Oak Bomb defendants.
01:45:48.000The source of the SPLC advised that Strassmeyer is currently residing with Kirk Lyons in Black Mountain, North Carolina.
01:45:54.000Now, Kirk Lyons is the lawyer for the KKK and the White Area Resistance and all that.
01:45:58.000He was the one that defended the Waco survivors, and they only ended up getting 40 years apiece.
01:46:04.000I mean, he's the total opposite of Morris Dees, and now you've got Strassmeyer informing to the Southern Poverty Law Center, but he's hiding out in Kirk Lyons' office, and Kirk Lyons smuggles him out of Mexico.
01:46:14.000Which it says here, it says, and plans to leave, now get this, plans to leave the US via Mexico in the near future.
01:46:21.000The source further advised that he or she has learned that Strassmire is fleeing the US for an unknown reason.
01:46:26.000Prior Oak Bomb investigation determined that McVeigh had placed a telephone call to LOM City on 4-5-95 a day that he was believed to have been attempting to recruit a second conspirator to assist in the attack.
01:46:36.000The Oak Bomb command post has attempted to verify the version of events set forth by the source and to develop further information.
01:46:41.000Now, what this means is it appears by this memo that the Southern Poverty Law Center knew what was going to happen in advance.
01:46:48.000They had foreknowledge, and they even told the FBI about it and didn't do anything about it.
01:46:52.000Now, if this is true, this would explain a lot because they're going to want to water the investigation down so they don't get discovered as having people inside of LOM City. - Thank you.
01:47:03.000This thing gets to be a real hairball at it, Alex, when you start connecting who knows who and who doesn't know who.
01:47:08.000It's a classic intelligence operation.
01:47:10.000Oh yeah, but here we got Strassmeier in an FBI memo who's getting ready to escape to Mexico and no one stops him.
01:47:17.000One more point, Alex, is after this happened, I talked to my cousin And he was infuriated about the events that took place because he said that what he had been involved in was that the militia had nothing to do with the actual events that took place, or the entire bombing, the way that it took place.
01:47:51.000Hi, I was wondering if some of the same players that were involved in Oklahoma City were also setting up Waco and the World Trade Center, some of the same people that the government hired out, like the Iraqis.
01:48:11.000Well there is, in the sense that these Iraqi POWs that we had, still had their ties back to the Middle East and to the Philippines, and some of the Middle Easterners that went through flight school here and did all this stuff, they were tied in Well, there's incredible connections.
01:48:28.000They admit Nick Berg is at that military training base, and the guy that supposedly got his head sawed off, he's at a flight training base with some of the hijackers, loaning them his laptop and his code, and then the FBI picks him up with his cell phone company, holds him for 13 days in Iraq, and releases him directly into, quote, Al-Qaeda hands, who then saw his head off.
01:48:57.000I mean, when we did the Oklahoma City bombing case, we kept running into the same people over and over and over again at different places, in the same groups, in the same money, in the same power structures, and you couldn't get the FBI to go talk to any of them.
01:49:09.000You know, their deal was McVeigh did it, Nichols is involved, case closed.
01:49:14.000Well, if the case is closed, show us the films.
01:49:18.000Meanwhile, you have hit teams pulling cops over and killing them, and FBI helicopters landing and planting guns.
01:49:26.000Well, when we get back, I'll tell you what they did to me.
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01:53:01.000Yesterday we blitzed through in one segment about 15 calls.
01:53:05.000Well, I'm going to do that Or much of the next hour, and then we'll just do little info bombs where we cover, you know, key little subjects in news articles here that I want to get comments from Colonel Roberts on, who I really respect for his great investigative skills.
01:53:20.000Before we go back to Craig and let him talk about the stuff he's been through, and believe me, I've ridden in a car with this guy for about six, seven hours before when we were riding back from Kansas City.
01:53:32.000In Oklahoma, when I got back in the car with my friends that were following us, and I drove on back to Texas, and to hear all the stuff he went through trying to investigate this, it is legion what happened, or encyclopedic.
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01:55:54.000Craig, just again in kind of a thumbnail sketch, some of the stuff you went through trying to investigate all this.
01:56:05.000I think when I started generating memos that were contradictory to the official line, the official truth, and I started talking to people without reporting on who I was talking to at the time, trying to maintain their anonymity, I noticed that I started getting some problems with my telephone at the police department.
01:56:26.000So I got my gear out and checked it, and it was tapped.
01:56:29.000Uh, then I found out that there was a bug in the office.
01:56:31.000We found it up in the air conditioning vent.
01:56:42.000And we did a trace route on where the emails were going.
01:56:44.000They ended up going through Langley, Virginia, then coming back.
01:56:48.000Before they got to me because I had people I call them on the phone lines They send me an email right now, and they would send it it wouldn't get there for five minutes or more sometimes the next day It was like they were being censored Then we had dead animals on the on the front porch we had dead birds put in the mailbox my mail was opened consistently and
01:57:11.000Uh, before it ever arrived at the mailbox, I had my house surveilled, um, I had, uh, I'd been followed, uh, by unmarked cars, which I turned around and followed them, which is great fun.
01:57:20.000Um, and a lot of these guys, you know, they're not as professional as we are.
01:57:24.000You've got guys that are federal agents that have only been so for four or five years, and they go up against a 25-year cop, and they can't figure out how to come down to cops on your tail.
01:57:31.000So, we had all of these things happening and more, and I actually... Stay there, Will.
01:57:36.000I want to hear some more of this when we get back, and we'll go to your calls.
01:57:58.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:06.000All right, now, 30 seconds into this final hour.
01:58:19.000It is Friday, the 42nd day of April 2005.
01:58:26.000Colonel Craig Roberts has been riding shotgun with us since the middle of the first hour.
01:58:31.000And we're going to literally blitz through your calls in the shower and cover a bunch of other key news items.
01:58:37.000We just passed the Waco and Oklahoma City anniversaries, also the anniversary of 1775 there at Concord in Lexington.
01:58:46.000And of course our government doesn't celebrate that day as a day of standing up against tyranny.
01:58:52.000No, the government celebrates it by murdering people and blowing things up.
01:58:56.000Uh, and moving forward with their tyranny.
01:58:58.000We're talking to Colonel Roberts, who was a police officer, also colonel in the Army, Marine Corps sniper in Vietnam, worked the Oklahoma City case.
01:59:05.000He was talking about some of the harassment he went through, uh, going up against the official and fraudulent story.
01:59:13.000The dead animals at the front porch, the dead birds in the mailbox.
01:59:35.000I had been trained when I was with the tactical unit in Tulsa on how to do different types of tails and how to get rid of tails.
01:59:45.000So it was a simple matter of, if you ever think you've got this problem, what you do is you turn down the street, you know, turn to the right, go down into a residential area, then turn left and pull in a driveway and see if they drive past.
01:59:58.000If they drive past, you pull in behind them.
02:00:12.000The problem is it can also be very dangerous.
02:00:14.000If you've got somebody that you're after, and there's two or three of them in the car, and they decide to get out and pull guns, then of course you've got to be able to find reverse real quick.
02:00:30.000This one particular morning I got up and I looked across the street and it was cold outside.
02:00:34.000And I could see exhaust gas coming out of the exhaust pipe of a white van that was backed into a parking place in one of the local parks right across the street from my house, looking right straight at the front porch.
02:00:45.000So I went out the back door, over the fence, down the block, came up a creek bed, came up behind these guys, walked up and tapped on their glass.
02:01:26.000You know, I was getting ready to call the police and have them, you know, taken out and spread eagled and do a field interrogation on them.
02:01:32.000But I decided to go ahead and handle it myself just to let them know that I wasn't stupid and I wasn't blind.
02:01:42.000Tell us about the other confrontation.
02:01:44.000The other time was actually, it was a Tulsa County Deputy Sheriff that had been assigned to follow me.
02:01:49.000And I found out about him, so, you know, I just did what we call a 180 split, which is where you go into a residential area, like I described, let him get, you know, he was in an unmarked white unit, and I let him get ahead of me, and then I pulled him over to my police car, and as soon as I did, of course, he's, well, I'm a deputy sheriff, and I said, what are you doing following me?
02:02:09.000Well, I'm not following you, of course.
02:02:10.000Then we, you know, had the typical, yeah, I think you are because this is like the fourth time I've seen your car behind me in three days.
02:02:16.000And so, you know, they break off as soon as they get discovered.
02:02:20.000So I went to the undersheriff, who was a friend of mine, and I said, look, tell these guys, you know, Back off and leave me alone or I'm going to get real unfriendly and they're not going to like me.
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02:06:06.000attorneys that weren't going along, you name it.
02:06:08.000And Craig Roberts, He wasn't afraid to die, he wasn't afraid to stand up against this.
02:06:13.000He'd been a highly decorated Marine Corps sniper in Vietnam, and of course later a colonel in the Army, an intelligence, he'd been a police officer, been in the SWAT team, flown the police helicopter, been in a helicopter crash.
02:06:27.000He's investigating this day one, first following these leads, leads back to the government, leads back to a cover-up, so they're tailing him, he's confronting the tails, all this is happening.
02:06:37.000Then they, and we're about to go to calls, but the last point on this is to show what happened to you personally.
02:06:42.000The last thing, I mean, one of the last things they did to you is, I mean, again, you've written New York Times bestselling books, folks.
02:06:50.000I mean, One Shot One Kill, I mean, that was a super bestseller.
02:07:11.000That same story you told me when we were traveling back from Kansas City that time.
02:07:16.000Some character was sitting at a Little League football game.
02:07:21.000Drinking beer with his buddies and he overheard two guys in front of him talking about this terror strike that was going to take place.
02:07:27.000And that this helicopter is being flown and he heard helicopter and he heard bunker buster missiles and he heard I don't know what all else and then he heard my name and that I was a police helicopter pilot in Tulsa and this guy put all these different things together and he went to the FBI and told him That this crazy named Craig Roberts that flies for the police helicopters here is putting together a strike team to take out the Sunola refinery in Tulsa.
02:07:55.000And what they were discussing was the plot of the book that I'd written, Hellhound, where these terrorists use a sophisticated Russian helicopter and they're going to try to take out the nuclear power plant at San Onofre, California.
02:08:06.000But this guy, you know, he put it all together totally separate.
02:08:09.000Well, they ended up, at that time, putting more caps on my phones and following me and trying to do stuff, and they ended up... Now, they claim that's how they got on you doing this.
02:08:17.000I don't believe that story for a minute.
02:08:19.000It's incredible that they would waste any time at all.
02:08:22.000All they had to do was call me on the phone and say, hey, we just heard this.
02:08:29.000They ended up calling in the FBI HRT team and staging in them on the day that this is supposed to happen, which is Labor Day of that year, which is 1994, I think.
02:08:40.000And they put them in the Sun Oil Refinery in Tulsa, they've got them up on towers, they've got... So this is even before Oklahoma.
02:08:47.000Which is one of the reasons that when this thing all came out in the wash, they found out that I had a lot of contacts and capabilities that they didn't.
02:08:55.000And that's why you ended up getting put on the case.
02:08:57.000This is one of the reasons they pulled me in.
02:09:10.000They had worked on me all summer long, and I had noticed some of these tales.
02:09:14.000The phone taps and the whole bit, I just couldn't figure out what it was all about.
02:09:18.000I thought it was because I was doing some lecturing and doing some programs at some of the churches on the New World Order and things like that, because that always makes the government real nervous when you start exposing what they're really up to.
02:09:29.000And the bottom line was they backed off.
02:09:32.000They wasted I don't know how much money.
02:09:33.000I've got a big thick file on this that I ended up being able to do some good with later on.
02:09:40.000But the bottom line is they pulled out and sent everybody home and they called this guy in and his lawyer and they said look we just spent I don't know how many millions of dollars Sun Oil Company increased their security.
02:09:51.000They put in new lights and guards and yada yada.
02:09:57.000They finally got him to where he admitted all he did was overhear excerpts of a conversation.
02:10:03.000And what it was, he'd overheard the plot of this book.
02:10:05.000Well, what I did was I took a copy of the book, I addressed it to the special agent in charge, and sent it to him.
02:10:12.000Now, Craig, one last little quick story here that you told me about, because this is really important.
02:10:17.000This is the same thing I've seen happen.
02:10:19.000You talk about when you go deer hunting and there's 20, you know because you're a police officer, retired now, but you know cops hang out with cops.
02:10:26.000You go deer hunting and there's 20 guys there at the camp.
02:10:29.000And five, six, seven years ago, they were all disagreeing with you about the New World Order and government involvement in terrorism.
02:10:35.000And now you've seen a total, total shift with police officers and people that you talk to and people that are still on the force.
02:10:44.000And that's the same shift that I've seen.
02:10:46.000I mean, everybody I talk to now knows in their guts what's really going on.
02:10:52.000Well, actually the Special Investigations Division of our department had a file on me that they kept because I've always been a loose cannon.
02:11:01.000I don't mind whose toes I step on or what I say.
02:11:03.000I'm not much of a tactful individual when it comes to politics.
02:11:08.000They had a meeting here about a year ago, and one of the guys that was there called me up and was laughing.
02:11:33.000They violate everything that we've been taught.
02:11:34.000You know, when I went to the academy, we were taught you could not stop a car or detain anyone unless you had probable cause.
02:11:41.000You had to have reasonable belief that they broke a law, and you had to have probable cause that something occurred to stop that particular car.
02:11:48.000Now we have roadblocks out there that Highway Patrol puts up and checks for driver's licenses for everybody that goes through.
02:12:58.000What we're seeing now is we're seeing the militarizations of the departments in which they're becoming more military in their uniforms, they're wearing blouse boots, they're wearing Kevlar helmets, they're doing all this kind of stuff.
02:13:08.000And you've got SWAT teams that wear ski masks.
02:13:10.000Now, I was taught that the bad guys and the terrorists wore ski masks.
02:13:13.000You know, we're seeing all of this happen.
02:13:15.000And what we're going to see is we're going to see by legislation the creation of a cross-deputization where we have a national police force.
02:13:50.000In the very last part of the book, there's a statement of security guard Melvin Dennis Beale, or Bell, I don't know if you've read it.
02:14:00.000He was a security guard, and on April 6, 1995, at approximately 1pm, I saw a Spanish
02:14:10.000appearing male approximately 25 to 32 years of age coming into the lobby he was smoking a cigarette he was accompanied by two white females and a white male who I'm convinced was Timothy McVeigh and due to the fact the building is a non-smoking building I got up from my desk pointed to the Spanish appearing male and advised him he would have to take the cigarette out of the building he came back into the building
02:14:38.000And he and the two females approached me and apologized for the cigarette and he began a conversation, I'll just paraphrase here, with the two white females.
02:14:48.000He gave all this information to the FBI and after reading the rest of his statement it appears that the FBI just weren't interested in following through.
02:15:12.000But interestingly enough, one of the points, and we didn't cover this, but I got information out of Texas that a Mexican drug lord named Juan Garcia Abrego sent two bag men, Mexicans, to Oklahoma City to help finance the bombing, to get rid of the building, to get rid of the papers in the building because to Oklahoma City to help finance the bombing, to get rid of the building, to get rid of the papers in the building because he was part of the
02:15:36.000And then when they got to Oklahoma City, these two Mexicans showed up at one hotel dressed as Arabs, and everybody laughed about it because they thought, what are these Mexicans dressing up as Arabs?
02:15:48.000They use all these go-betweens to have compartmentalization and plausible deniability.
02:15:53.000Yeah, but that was the Mexican connection.
02:15:57.000So I found it interesting when you said, here's the way.
02:15:58.000We also have detonators bought out of Mexico, and the BATF practicing blowing up trucks, truck bombs in the months before in a congressionally funded study.
02:16:08.000And And so now you're saying that the security guard had, you know, observed a Mexican coming in.
02:16:15.000And everybody says there's no Mexicans involved.
02:16:21.000The last time you were on Alex's program, you mentioned the FBI has a file where they put all the excorporatory evidence, the stuff that doesn't fit their theory.
02:16:39.000It's the K-Drive where it's... A whole separate parallel computer system.
02:16:42.000Yeah, it's where they put stuff that you can't access unless you know where it's at.
02:16:47.000Well, see that whole file needs to be open to the public so we know what's really going on here because the FBI that should be helping the general public is not really helping us at all.
02:17:00.000We'll come back and talk to Davey and Craig and Mike and many others that are patiently holding.
02:17:05.000I'm going to move a little quicker through your calls, so be ready.
02:17:07.0001-800-259-9231 and I do want to spend some time on Waco and the first World Trade Center attack and of course the last World Trade Center attack.
02:17:17.000Craig, I have no doubt that we're going to see even bigger terror attacks in this country.
02:17:21.000Oh, no, I am absolutely shocked we haven't seen a mini-nuke go off someplace.
02:17:27.000And then, boy, we're gonna have to give all our rights up to be safe, Craig, but, oh, the border has to stay open, though.
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02:22:16.000Gosh, Alex, you know, the thing about holding on is you get so many things You said that you forget what you called in for.
02:22:24.000But I wanted to ask Craig about the bombs in the building and Dr. Deagle reporting that he had examined an individual that was there that was exposed to radiation.
02:22:36.000Specifically, how did those bombs get in there and how many were there and who might have put them in there?
02:22:43.000Well, actually, Jane Graham, according to her deposition, saw, when she was coming to work, she worked in the building and she was coming to work.
02:22:52.000Right, and she was coming in through the underground parking and she saw Andrew Strassmeier and one or two other guys in the basement of the building there too, ahead of time, and they were putting putty on the columns and stringing wire. - They call them blocks of gray butter. - Right, and stringing wire between them.
02:23:20.000However, what's interesting is that the huge cut that goes back into the building and then goes down two or more subfloors was an explosion back in there that was not caused by C4, and there were elements of tritium in the atmosphere.
02:23:36.000There was more tritium Uh, it was found, uh, to be present in the area.
02:24:04.000The glass and all was blown outward for several blocks.
02:24:08.000But I think, and it's just a theory, but I think that if there was any type of a mini-nuclear device, some type of special atomic submunition was used in this place, like some people claim, that would explain why they wanted to tear the building down, haul it off, bury it, put a fence around it, put armed guards around it.
02:24:29.000Otherwise, you could go up there with a Geiger counter and say, hey, gee, we got a problem here.
02:24:32.000Two more points real quick, Craig, and so the other callers can get in.
02:24:36.000One, if you could have a chance to talk about the death of William Colby and regarding Waco.
02:24:42.000Y'all mentioned earlier about the ADL involvement with the FBI.
02:24:47.000If you could kind of cover the history of the ADL and the FBI.
02:25:12.000My question is, being that Alexander Levin, who was murdered in a helicopter crash when he was about to become the President of Russia, admitted on national TV... Suitcase nukes.
02:25:23.000Suitcase nukes are coming across the Mexican border, being that all the illegal drugs come across the Mexican border, being the fact that in California, 40% of the prison population are Mexican nationals.
02:25:36.000And being that it was reported on Handy and Combs, mind you, the NeoCon network, 3,000 individuals of Mexican national origin are wanted on capital murder charges in this country.
02:25:49.000Why are we invading Iraq and not Mexico? - You know, I asked a similar question to Bob Barr a couple of days ago when he was here.
02:25:58.000And you know, what his feelings were and what the congressional feelings were on why the Bush White House won't seal our border.
02:26:04.000I mean, I can understand the Clintons, but why the Bush White House?
02:26:07.000You know, I mean, he's drawn all kinds of fire.
02:26:09.000He's got Republican congressmen and senators all over the place screaming to do something about this, and they're getting no response whatsoever.
02:26:15.000And he said he thought it was strictly economic and that they needed to labor across the border and they wanted the votes and everybody was fighting for the Hispanic vote and all this nonsense.
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02:27:19.000Second world is where you redistribute the wealth, and using multiculturalism, you bring up the third world to second world status, and you destroy us and bring us down to second world status, then everybody's one big happy family.
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02:30:34.000866-885-6625 866-885-6625 One more time, that's 866-885-6625 Call today Alright, we've really got to conserve our time here We've only got about 26 and a half minutes left and a lot of news and calls to cover.
02:31:00.000So I'm just going to take, I don't know, maybe 7 or 8 more calls.
02:31:05.000We're going to really have to move fast.
02:31:07.000Toll free number to join us as soon as you hear one call or hang up.
02:31:09.000Then I want to talk a little bit about Waco and coming terrorist attacks and what really happened at Waco just briefly with Craig Roberts.
02:31:20.000Before I do that, I just want to, one more time, as I did at the start of the broadcast, thank everybody that came out last night.
02:31:28.000A huge crowd of great people there at the Doubletree for Jimmy Vaughn and friends with the tunes, not tolls, fighting these criminal toll roads on existing roads.
02:31:38.000It was a lot of fun and it was great seeing you out there.
02:31:40.000Thanks for buying the tickets, which every dime of the proceeds goes to sue government officials.
02:31:48.000And to fight against these toll roads.
02:31:51.000I also want to thank Jimmy Vaughn and everybody for getting involved to fight these toll roads because I'm going to move out of Austin if they put these suckers in.
02:32:25.000A privilege to speak with you gentlemen.
02:32:27.000First, I just have to commend you on your efforts to expose the truth and to make all the sacrifices required to get that truth to the rest of us so everybody else could get on board with what's going on with these traders in Washington.
02:32:41.000I'm just moved by everything and I just have to say we got to pray for all the people that have died seeking the truth, the people mentioned by Craig for Oklahoma City bombing and so on.
02:32:49.000Everybody should be praying for these poor guys for the ultimate sacrifices they have made and to pray for all you guys still doing the job for us, getting it out there, And, um, we have to remember, people, we're dealing with traitors.
02:33:30.000They are building a control grid, because they know things are going to get really bad.
02:33:34.000They're setting up a system where we're going to resist.
02:33:37.000They've got to have that straitjacket in place before then.
02:33:40.000Craig, any comments on what he was just saying?
02:33:42.000Well, you know, there's so much that's going on, it's hard to keep track of a lot of it, but one thing we didn't mention, and he He kind of spurred me off into another line of thought and that is we haven't talked about the National ID Card.
02:33:56.000And how it's coming along and the one that's going to have the biochip in it that's going to be able to identify everybody.
02:34:02.000And there's also another area, I want to mention this before I forget about it, I made a note to myself.
02:34:06.000We've got this bird flu and I've seen message traffic here recently on all kinds of practice exercises at county level and state level for mass inoculations because of a possible outbreak of bird flu.
02:34:21.000And it's all just the model stateshold Emergency Powers Act gearing up.
02:34:26.000Right, and if you can't identify who everybody is and where they're at, obviously you're going to have to have a national ID card.
02:34:31.000Plus we've got the immigrant problem, and to solve that we have to have a national ID card.
02:34:34.000But they actually put loopholes in there where it doesn't even affect all the illegals.
02:34:46.000Hey, one more thing about with the barbarism in Mexico and why we should invade and all that stuff.
02:34:50.000I just want to say one thing is that, you know, I've met more Mexicans in the Border Patrol as Asians than I did Caucasians, Africans, and I just want to say with the other guy that was talking about how Hispanics will fight for this country, that's absolutely true because... Well, I mean the polls show that about 68% of Hispanics are against open borders.
02:35:11.00087% of Americans are against open borders, and they try to announce that everybody's for open borders, and it's racist to be against open borders.
02:35:21.000And I was in a program called Law Enforcement Exploring, which is the subdivision of, used to be of the Boy Scouts, where you explore a specific career.
02:35:58.000Craig Roberts, you know what, we're having the Mexican Army mass just south of the Arizona border here in Aco, Arizona for the past two or three weeks.
02:36:07.000And of course Alex has exposed the fact that the Pentagon has contracted with the Mexican Army to come into the United States and enforce martial law against the American people.
02:36:20.000No, that's part of the North American security perimeter and the deals they've signed with Mexican and Canadian troops to police all of North America.
02:37:39.000Or what was Congressman Barr doing at the event this week?
02:37:42.000He was the keynote speaker for the banquet the night before the program and he talked about fighting against this Homeland Security Wait a minute, you guys had the 10th anniversary Oklahoma City Truth Meeting, and you're telling me that Bob Barr came to it?
02:39:34.000Well, you see, the CIA, when they carry out an event, or one of those other agencies that were all involved, they like to use organized crime, they like to use different go-betweens, compartmentalized, like a Lego set or an erector set, but then put it all together.
02:39:48.000That's just standard operating procedure.
02:39:52.000And they were involved in smuggling across the detonators.
02:39:59.000Well, this goes back to the drug smuggling that happened during I ran CONTRA, the MENA affair and all of that when we get information that a major Mexican drug kingpin who's in charge of the land route in through Texas is sending two Mexican bag men up to Oklahoma City to help fund the bombing.
02:40:21.000You know, and it's not followed up by the FBI, even though I did two separate, extensive, detailed memos on who these guys were and where the information came from and what they allegedly did, I could not get the FBI to move.
02:40:32.000In fact, they denied that Juan Garcia Obrego even existed up until the time, three or four months later, when they extradited him out of Mexico on unrelated charges.
02:42:08.000I may have time to take a few more calls, but Craig, I wanted to cover this.
02:42:11.000As I saw the Pentagon plan about five years ago, how they were advising the cities with all these cameras going in, the transponder readers, the whole grid's been put in.
02:42:21.000And now from Florida to Wisconsin to Texas, they're quietly putting in the final touches.
02:42:26.000But this is out of a major newspaper out of Wisconsin.
02:42:31.000Headline, Homeland Security, Lockheed Martin provide total surveillance for Wisconsin Town.
02:42:38.000This isn't Big Brother situation that we have here, said Councilman Red Nut.
02:42:43.000This is another tool for our law enforcement officers.
02:42:47.000The last 18 months, Police Chief Richard Bold It's been investigating the technology, even going so far as to take a recent trip to Cocoa Beach, Florida with City Administrator Leon Compton to see exactly how well the system works.
02:43:01.000And it goes on to say that this is basically opening up a whole new world.
02:43:05.000This is something that is cutting edge and will allow us to get in on the ground floor with something that is great for the safety of our community as a whole.
02:43:13.000And it goes on to say it's wireless cameras and systems that are hooked in.
02:43:17.000It's run by Lockheed Martin with a Pentagon system.
02:43:23.000The entire city, every stoplight, every street will have these small wireless cameras.
02:43:29.000And it goes on to say the system which was originally engineered for use by the United States military during battlefield operations has since been taken over by Motorola, a company renowned for its innovations and leadership in the communications sector.
02:43:41.000Lockheed Martin was hired by the city as an independent information technology consultant on the subject.
02:43:49.000After these three phases of installation are complete, the entire community of Ripton will be online with the system in virtual wireless hotspots, giving city-equipped vehicles and Lockheed Martin engineers the chance to iron out any receiving bugs in various pockets throughout the town.
02:44:06.000And it just goes on with about the thumb scanners and face scanners and everything will be wired into police cars with cameras watching and scanning everything we do and they admit it's a Pentagon program.
02:44:21.000I mean, they've got a bill in the Texas Legislature to put transponders in all our cars by law, to tax us with the toll roads, and the minute our insurance runs out, they instantly arrest us.
02:44:32.000I mean, this is Nazi Germany on steroids.
02:44:35.000Oh, it's the invasion of privacy that they keep saying that we've got to have this right to privacy, we've got to protect your privacy, we've got to do this and that and the other.
02:44:44.000Then they turn right around and they put cameras every place.
02:44:47.000You go to London, England, and of course the IRA is supposed to be the threat, even though the IRA hasn't done anything in London in years.
02:44:53.000They've got cameras everywhere watching everything in London.
02:45:00.000They're not even saying it's for terror.
02:45:02.000I mean, they put the systems in, then they announce what they're going to do with it, and it is just this total control grid, and then Lockheed Martin runs most of the red light cameras, and they even give you the tickets and charge you a private corporation.
02:45:30.000No, they haven't got any assets to fix a fence on the border, but they've got assets to go up here into these various towns and cities and put cameras on every red light.
02:45:40.000For those who don't know, every car that drives through constantly, instantly, it reads your license plate and runs it through a criminal background check.
02:45:47.000Well, and they've got the face recognition software that'll go through windshields now.
02:45:51.000So that when you drive through, it can run a... and it's not infallible.
02:45:55.000I mean, you can pop up as somebody on the 10 Most Wanted list if the camera just gets... Well, they found that in Tampa.
02:46:02.000Yeah, the light reflection is wrong and you can get stopped and have guys with guns pull you out of the car.
02:46:08.000Folks, do we want to do this to America?
02:46:51.000Well, you know, I found out a long time ago that the mainstream media is an organ of the CIA.
02:46:56.000Um, you know, you sit there and you take the three main, uh, ABC, NBC, CBS, and you're watching the evening news, and you can flick back and forth, and guess what?
02:47:05.000You're not going to miss any news stories, because they all report exactly the same thing at exactly the same time.
02:47:10.000Uh, you know, I mean, if that's not pretty obvious...
02:47:13.000You know, they decide, their deal is, we tell you what the news is.
02:47:17.000You know, it's not all the news is fit to print, it's we tell you.
02:47:19.000That's the predominant media, it isn't that all the people are government agents because the people that write the good wire stories, nobody reads the wires.
02:47:27.000And you find all the real news on the wires, but no one ever learns of it.
02:47:30.000You know, they get the same talking heads every night to spout the same propaganda, and they'll go off and sensationalize... But, Craig, it's not working.
02:47:41.000This is from editor and publisher Dallas Paper Suppers.
02:47:45.000Uh, serious plunge, circulation plunge, and now they're getting subpoenaed by the district attorney because they've been putting out false subscription numbers to advertisers.
02:47:54.000And the last year, they've had a 13% drop in readership.
02:47:58.000They'd already had a 60% drop in the last 10 years.
02:48:01.000It's the same with all the other papers.
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02:52:59.000Before we take these two final calls, Craig, I want to thank you for coming on with us.
02:53:02.000And just real quick, if you could, in 45 seconds, talk about what really happened on Waco.
02:53:07.000Well, I think what happened there is there at the end, there were some things going on inside the building that they had to shut up, that they had to make sure these people didn't come out and speak of.
02:53:19.000Somewhere along the line, orders were given that everybody had to be eliminated because there's no other way that this could have happened.
02:53:26.000Other than that, I was one of the People who analyzed the flare tapes that looked down when the tank went into the building and initially in the back of the building went down.
02:53:34.000You could see troops firing their machine guns and the news goes, no that's not machine guns!
02:53:38.000Well after the tank went in and came out, then the fire started in that part of the building that the tank was in and these people wouldn't have gone up against a tank, you know, and then started a fire afterwards.
02:53:48.000And then they put the bomb on top of the books depository and Hey Alex, how are you doing?
02:53:53.000Hey, just wanted to let you know, I was watching the History Channel this morning.