Alex Jones Show - May 05, 2005


20050505_Thu_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 57 minutes

Words per Minute

163.01501

Word Count

19,176

Sentence Count

1,568

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

On the 5th day of May, 2005, a bomb exploded outside the British Consulate in Washington, D.C., causing minor damage, but no one was hurt. It was the latest in a long line of terror attacks carried out by the British government.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.
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00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000 Welcome, my friends. my friends.
00:00:40.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:00:42.000 It is Thursday, the 5th day of May, 2005.
00:00:48.000 We'll be live for the next 3 hours.
00:00:52.000 So I guess it's 5-5-5.
00:00:55.000 Interesting date.
00:00:57.000 The 5th year, the 5th month, the 5th day.
00:00:59.000 I met the Globalist with their obsession with numerology If I was a betting man, they're going to pull something off next year on 6-6-6.
00:01:15.000 We did predict they'd do something on 3-11, 911 days after 9-11.
00:01:20.000 And lo and behold, that did take place.
00:01:25.000 And when it even came out in the mainstream Spanish news, clear evidence, the government, as usual, was behind it.
00:01:31.000 But I digress.
00:01:34.000 Two granados or grenades explode at British Consulate in New York City.
00:01:42.000 Two small makeshift grenades exploded outside a building.
00:01:47.000 Makeshift grenades.
00:01:49.000 They just used the term.
00:01:50.000 Well, that's not a grenade then.
00:01:52.000 It's a improvised explosive.
00:01:57.000 Two small makeshift grenades exploded outside a building housing the British Consulate early Thursday, Election Day in England, causing slight damage but injuring no one, officials said.
00:02:08.000 And of course, we've caught the British government involved in many terror attacks against themselves.
00:02:12.000 Their own MI5 agents, like David Shiler, have gone public and exposed it.
00:02:18.000 And when Bush was over there speaking a few years ago on the eve of the Iraq War, trying to legitimize The fight against terrorism, of course, there were bombings of embassies and that led back to the British government again.
00:02:30.000 We have official U.S.
00:02:31.000 and British plans, like Gladio, to carry out terror attacks and blame it on their enemies.
00:02:36.000 So I'll be getting into that.
00:02:38.000 Russian pilots to make rain stay away at military parade in Australia.
00:02:42.000 This from ABC News of weather control.
00:02:47.000 Associated Press, more on this nightmare.
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00:02:59.000 Italian website banned over Nazi Pope picture.
00:03:04.000 And this is an international website based in Brazil, but Italy's trying to order Brazil to take it down.
00:03:10.000 And if they can order them to do that, they can order anybody to do it.
00:03:14.000 Massive attack on free speech.
00:03:15.000 And see, That's what censorship is.
00:03:19.000 Censorship isn't the newspaper carrying your letter to the editor.
00:03:26.000 Censorship isn't, well this broadcast I'm not going to have the Moonies on promoting their religion.
00:03:34.000 Censorship is where you go out To someone's source material and you try to order them to stop distributing it.
00:03:42.000 Or to go to somebody with a sandwich board on the side of the street corner saying the end is near and telling them they can't do that.
00:03:49.000 That is censorship and this is clear dangerous thought crime censorship.
00:03:57.000 And coming up we're going to be talking to Charles Shaw, a great researcher.
00:04:02.000 About his detailed two-part series, the second part of the series just came out, regulated resistance to the gatekeepers of the so-called left.
00:04:11.000 Of course, I've been exposing the gatekeepers on the left and the right.
00:04:14.000 There is no left and right when you get down to reality, but only in the false perceptions that have been created in our minds.
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00:08:57.000 The big foundations, Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller Brothers, Le Pew, Annenberg, CPB, and countless others fund the false left.
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00:10:20.000 Again, this is out of the Associated Press and More and more of this continues to come out.
00:10:27.000 We'll be covering it.
00:10:28.000 Obviously you've heard about the two grenades that exploded at a British consulate in New York City today.
00:10:39.000 The two small makeshift grenades exploded outside a building housing the British consulate early Thursday, Election Day in England.
00:10:51.000 Causing slight damage but injuring no one, officials said.
00:10:56.000 The blast happened at 3.35 AM.
00:10:59.000 The grenades had been placed inside a cement flower box outside the front door of the Midtown Manhattan building, police spokesman Noel Waters said.
00:11:10.000 We do not, at this point, have any idea who did it or a motive.
00:11:15.000 Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the consulate is on the 9th and 10th floors of the building.
00:11:20.000 The mayor said he said he expected it would be open for business later in the day.
00:11:24.000 After piecing together the shrapnel, police determined the devices were toy grenades.
00:11:30.000 Toy grenades that had been filled with gunpowder.
00:11:34.000 Officers estimated that one was the size of a pineapple, the other was the size of a lemon.
00:11:40.000 No timing device was used.
00:11:42.000 Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said the blast shattered a panel of glass in the building's front door and ripped a one-foot chunk from the planter.
00:11:53.000 Now folks, you can get inside one of those planters and punch it and it'll break.
00:11:57.000 The department's bomb squad was at the scene and streets were closed in the area.
00:12:01.000 Offices of other foreign diplomatic representatives were checked as a precaution and nothing was found, Kelly said.
00:12:09.000 Security videos in the area were being reviewed, he said.
00:12:12.000 In London, Britain's Foreign Office said there was no provisions for Britons to vote at overseas consulates.
00:12:18.000 No further information was immediately available, the spokesman said.
00:12:22.000 Calls to the British Embassy in Washington went unanswered early Thursday morning.
00:12:29.000 6, 7 in the morning this goes off.
00:12:30.000 That's about noon over in England.
00:12:32.000 Right when they're going to the polls.
00:12:34.000 Oh, Tony Blair's right.
00:12:35.000 We better vote for his administration because he'll keep us safe from Al-C-I-A-T-A that is attacking us.
00:12:44.000 Alright, let's just go over this.
00:12:45.000 Number one, who has a motive to set off one of these tinker toy bombs?
00:12:49.000 The British government.
00:12:51.000 In fact, graphs have been put together and created in England and the U.S.
00:12:55.000 of every time a scandal comes out exposing one of these administrations, these neocon administrations, a bomb goes off, or the government issues a terror alert, or they catch some group with Ryerson.
00:13:07.000 Months later it comes out they didn't have Ryerson, it was totally made up, and the government releases the so-called Muslims, who it turns out are on the payroll of MI5 or MI6, living in government safe houses.
00:13:18.000 It's staged.
00:13:19.000 We have giant sections on prisonplanet.com covering this.
00:13:23.000 David Shiler, a high-level MI5 agent, quit a few years ago and went public and was arrested over it for giving out state secrets.
00:13:34.000 When he exposed that it was MI5 that had carried out almost every bombing in the last 25 years in England and Northern Ireland, and that this started with Margaret Thatcher's first year in office, a program that was already existing, was expanded, and that the Omaha bombing and many others that killed hundreds, school buses, bars, churches, or the British government.
00:14:01.000 This is mainstream news!
00:14:03.000 BBC, London Telegraph, the documents have been released.
00:14:08.000 They were carrying out the bombings.
00:14:12.000 Because they have the motive.
00:14:13.000 To put up cameras, to have control, to have checkpoints, to crack down on the Catholics in Ireland.
00:14:22.000 And again, folks, don't think of this whether you're a Catholic or a Protestant.
00:14:25.000 Just look at the facts.
00:14:26.000 It's a pretext for control.
00:14:29.000 Okay?
00:14:30.000 And this is how they operate.
00:14:32.000 I mean, why would the IRA want to bomb anything when a peaceful program would be able to result in Ireland getting its sovereignty back, purely?
00:14:45.000 Why would they do this?
00:14:48.000 Why would the Muslims hijack jets and fly them into buildings, knowing it would bring down the wrath of the NWO?
00:14:54.000 Why would the Chechnyans bomb apartment buildings in Russia, knowing it would bring down the wrath of the Russian people?
00:15:00.000 Well, the head of the Chechnyans, after the bombing, said, we're not doing it, why would we do it?
00:15:04.000 And then a missile tracked in on his satellite cell phone and killed him.
00:15:09.000 And then Russian police, tired of their family members being killed in Moscow, staked out all the apartments and caught three members of FSB, Federal Security Bureau, the new KGB in 99, planting hexogen bombs on the columns.
00:15:24.000 They caught them.
00:15:25.000 Putin announced as Vice President.
00:15:27.000 Oh, it was just a drill.
00:15:28.000 But then the Moscow police tested the hexogen.
00:15:31.000 It was real.
00:15:32.000 And then Putin had the police stations raided.
00:15:34.000 The police arrested.
00:15:35.000 And his criminals released.
00:15:39.000 Time and time again.
00:15:40.000 Since then, FSB members, including a captain, have quit, gone public, and run to England and said, yes, we were bombing the people.
00:15:48.000 Of course!
00:15:49.000 And Putin rode into a vast election victory, set up a total police state, created regional governors, put red stars and sickles and hammers back on the tanks, and started arresting everyone that disagreed with him.
00:16:03.000 Again, it's just common sense.
00:16:06.000 Who stands to gain from this?
00:16:07.000 Why did Hitler blow up his own Reichstag?
00:16:10.000 Why did he firebomb it?
00:16:11.000 Their own documents show.
00:16:12.000 Blame it on their enemies and start arresting people.
00:16:16.000 In Operation Northwoods, the official U.S.
00:16:18.000 government plan, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, L.L.
00:16:23.000 Emmonser, says, we can blow up a ship in Havana Harbor again, like we did with the Maine in 1898.
00:16:31.000 We can hijack jets and crash them, preferably with a list of young people on board.
00:16:35.000 Young people causes an even greater wave of national indignation.
00:16:39.000 That's a quote, by the way.
00:16:42.000 Unbelievable.
00:16:44.000 They said that we can bomb D.C.
00:16:47.000 with pipe bombs and blame it on enemies.
00:16:49.000 We can even grab patsies and frame them.
00:16:52.000 We can commit sniper attacks.
00:16:53.000 We can attack foreign U.S.
00:16:55.000 military bases with our troops dressed up like foreign enemies.
00:16:58.000 We can kill our own troops.
00:17:00.000 I mean, this is an official plan that they wanted to carry out.
00:17:03.000 Not a war game.
00:17:05.000 An official plan they wanted to execute.
00:17:09.000 And so, who stands to gain?
00:17:11.000 Who has a motive?
00:17:13.000 If the New York Police weren't CIA, and we know their leaders are, and if they had two brain cells to rub together, they would know who has the motive.
00:17:23.000 These attacks on the existing governments bolster them, strengthen them.
00:17:30.000 They have Operation Gladio carried out from 1969 to 1979.
00:17:35.000 Over 125 bombings in Europe, predominantly Germany, France, and Italy.
00:17:41.000 Italy was the main area.
00:17:43.000 And the U.S.
00:17:44.000 government, it's now declassified, absolutely public.
00:17:47.000 The former head of Italian security forces has gone public.
00:17:50.000 Bombing, particularly school buses, there's nothing like blowing up a school bus full of kids, and blaming it on the leftists, who they didn't want to be in power.
00:18:01.000 Now, I'm no fan of the leftists, but the facts are the facts, and they weren't the ones doing it.
00:18:08.000 We have the field manuals, we have the documents, it's public.
00:18:13.000 And before 9-11, we had hundreds of federal courthouses and city, county courthouses having white packages of powder being dropped off in secure floors that didn't even come in by the mail, that had anthrax written on the label to create fear.
00:18:30.000 And that led back to the U.S.
00:18:32.000 government.
00:18:32.000 All of this fear feeds into control, feeds into their pretext.
00:18:38.000 And they may find some drooling idiot to blame this on.
00:18:41.000 It might be some mental patient, it might be some young provocative idiot, but chances are the British government had one of their officers walk up and blow up this flower pot with these Tinker Toy bombs and it gets them the news coverage they need.
00:19:00.000 And I just want to thank Tony Blair.
00:19:02.000 I mean, I know they did it.
00:19:03.000 I just want to thank Tony Blair for not blowing up something real.
00:19:07.000 And, uh, you know, you really gotta be thankful they're just doing fake terror alerts.
00:19:13.000 Uh, but, uh, same thing yet again.
00:19:18.000 Grab the headlines.
00:19:21.000 Every time it comes out about scams or corruption or Enron fraud or Halliburton fraud or gay prostitutes in the White House, there's another terror alert here and the White House memos got released two years ago and it came out in the White House press conference and Ari Fleischer had to admit, okay, we do this for political gain.
00:19:37.000 What do you think it's for?
00:19:40.000 That's Associated Press.
00:19:43.000 So, just know what this is all about.
00:19:47.000 And remember, the borders are wide open.
00:19:49.000 None of this has to do with terrorism.
00:19:51.000 It's about terrorizing you!
00:19:52.000 Alright, more news coming up after this quick break.
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00:25:41.000 He'd always owned Building 7 since it had been built in the 70's.
00:25:45.000 But two months before 9-11, he bought from the Port Authority that was predominantly owned by the Rockefeller Brothers group.
00:25:52.000 He bought it for literally pennies on the dollar with a down payment of just a few hundred million dollars.
00:25:57.000 He bought the entire multi-billion dollar complex and took out record gigantic multiple insurance policies totaling $3.5 billion.
00:26:08.000 $3.5 billion.
00:26:08.000 Now that wasn't enough for him.
00:26:12.000 He wanted to say that the two planes crashing were two separate events.
00:26:16.000 I mean, you talk about open greed, folks.
00:26:18.000 I mean, what?
00:26:20.000 But again, the insurance companies are predominantly owned by the globalists, so it's kind of the quiet payoff.
00:26:24.000 They were going along with this, and he got ruled to events, and the insurance companies didn't really fight it.
00:26:32.000 So we're talking about 7 billion, it was 7.1 smackers.
00:26:35.000 7.1 smackers. 7,100,000,000. 7,100,000,000.
00:26:49.000 Yeah.
00:26:49.000 Thank you.
00:26:51.000 But one of the 3.5 billion dollar settlements is being challenged.
00:26:57.000 A proposal by a small shareholder to withhold approval from the Board of Directors for failure to investigate signs of insurance fraud on 9-11 has been published on the website of Allison or Allen's Group, one of the world's largest insurers in preparation for its May 4th annual meeting.
00:27:15.000 PR Newswire reports, uh, Allen's Group published a shareholder proposal on April 20th, uh, faulting management for ignoring signs of insurance fraud on 9-11-2001.
00:27:29.000 Allen's carried a significant portion of the insurance coverage on the WTC and stands to pay a corresponding portion of one of the $3.5 billion payouts currently being litigated in New York.
00:27:44.000 Silverstein's won his appeal.
00:27:46.000 In his proposal, shareholder John Leonard, a California native and publisher of books on 9-11, pointed to reports that Building 7 apparently collapsed by demolition.
00:27:54.000 Well, the owner says he blew it up.
00:27:56.000 And for no plausible reason related to the 9-11 attacks, management replied that it relied on official U.S.
00:28:03.000 government reports, which made no mention of such evidence.
00:28:07.000 The Allens Group, It's incorporated in Deutschland and has approximately 570,000 shareholders under German stock company law.
00:28:16.000 Publicly held companies are required to publish shareholder proposals that meet certain criteria.
00:28:21.000 The text of the shareholder proposal, which may also be viewed at the Allens Group website, allanzgroup.com, is reported below.
00:28:33.000 It's on prisonplanet.com.
00:28:38.000 So, all is not happy and cheery in New World Order Wonderland.
00:28:46.000 The globalists are not faring too well.
00:28:48.000 I mean, just more and more of this comes out.
00:28:50.000 I mean, they blew the building up.
00:28:52.000 It had two little fires in it.
00:28:54.000 Suddenly, the central column collapses and the whole thing falls in on itself, which takes absolute expert demolition experts over two weeks to set up.
00:29:04.000 I mean, that sucker fell in a nice little neat pile, didn't even hit any of the buildings that were literally 40 feet from it.
00:29:09.000 And that's in my film, Martial Law, Rise of the Police State.
00:29:12.000 I mean, I go there, and I'm standing in between the two buildings.
00:29:14.000 They're building the new Building 7.
00:29:17.000 And I mean, I'm standing right there, and it is just 40 feet.
00:29:21.000 And there's these old concrete buildings, 20, 25 story buildings, right next to it on both sides.
00:29:27.000 Nothing!
00:29:28.000 Not a zip!
00:29:30.000 You know, it wasn't even in the debris field.
00:29:32.000 It got hit by some dust.
00:29:33.000 By the way, the command center running the attacks, we know, uh, was, uh, inside there.
00:29:39.000 So, you know, you torch the evidence after you're done.
00:29:41.000 If your building was owned by Silverstein, it was annihilated.
00:29:46.000 But if it was right next to 1 and 2 and you didn't own it?
00:29:49.000 Oh, no problem.
00:29:51.000 We're on the march.
00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.
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00:33:14.000 We're going to get into Russian pilots to make rain stay away at Military Parade.
00:33:24.000 ABC News out of Australia.
00:33:26.000 Oh yeah, they can control the weather, they're going to be dropping by.
00:33:29.000 Government researchers again tested AIDS drugs on foster children, deadly toxic ones that killed some of them.
00:33:35.000 That's okay, it's your government, they're good.
00:33:37.000 Italian website banned over Nazi Pope picture.
00:33:40.000 Really scary report.
00:33:43.000 It's all coming up, but here for the next few minutes I'm honored to have the gracious, the sweet, The intelligent Debbie Morrow, who will be the person you talk to when you call to get the Sheltering in Place Video or Potassium Iodate to protect you from radiological events, if they're to take place.
00:34:01.000 Something the Post Office and the Police have all been given, but you haven't.
00:34:04.000 Or if you call to get a sports bottle to give as a gift, or to be able to take tap water and make it good to drink, 600 refills.
00:34:12.000 Or if you want to get one of the big nice black Berkey systems that I use in my home that I've given as a gift, she's the lady you'll talk to.
00:34:18.000 Debbie, good to have you on with us on this Thursday edition.
00:34:21.000 Hi Alex, thank you so much for having me.
00:34:24.000 You bet.
00:34:26.000 How are you?
00:34:26.000 Good, sounds like somebody's having fun in the background.
00:34:30.000 My little rat carrier just decided to bark at somebody.
00:34:33.000 I know, they're sweetie pies aren't they?
00:34:35.000 Yes he is.
00:34:36.000 My wife's got two little horrible chihuahuas.
00:34:38.000 Oh.
00:34:39.000 And by horrible, I mean that affectionately.
00:34:41.000 Yes, I know you do.
00:34:42.000 Oh, that's so good.
00:34:44.000 So what's your rat terrier's name?
00:34:45.000 His name is Buddy.
00:34:46.000 Buddy.
00:34:47.000 Yes.
00:34:48.000 Does he sleep with you?
00:34:50.000 He does.
00:34:51.000 You're right.
00:34:51.000 Right down by our feet.
00:34:54.000 Exactly.
00:34:55.000 I've got two chihuahuas as foot warmers.
00:34:58.000 Yep.
00:34:59.000 It's amazing how they can even breathe.
00:35:02.000 It's like, how in the world do they do that?
00:35:04.000 Yeah, somebody must be at my door.
00:35:05.000 This is really embarrassing.
00:35:07.000 I was expecting a delivery.
00:35:09.000 Hey, Debbie, we'll put you on hold.
00:35:10.000 Go get your delivery.
00:35:11.000 Put me on hold.
00:35:12.000 Thank you.
00:35:12.000 Put her on hold.
00:35:13.000 She's going to go get the delivery.
00:35:15.000 And by the way, New Millennium Manufactures makes these.
00:35:20.000 It's a big company.
00:35:21.000 But Debbie is the person they have just for the radio interviews.
00:35:25.000 She's been there for many years.
00:35:27.000 And she's out of her home office.
00:35:28.000 And when you call, you get, again, individual service from Debbie Morrow and her Rat Terrier buddy.
00:35:37.000 But again, they also sell the British Berkey.
00:35:39.000 That's how they got into this over a decade ago.
00:35:41.000 And they have that as well, but they improved on it.
00:35:44.000 They've had major universities.
00:35:45.000 The big one in Louisiana did a big study of it.
00:35:50.000 And whereas with the other gravity filters, which cut out almost everything, they do a great job.
00:35:55.000 Still, under an electron microscope, if you take mud water, they basically test them with what they call lawn growth.
00:36:03.000 Green type stagnant water.
00:36:06.000 They poured that through, and then put it in a petri dish after it had gone through for a week, put an electron microscope on it, and there was zero, but scientists don't say zero, they say non-detectable levels of just everything you can imagine.
00:36:23.000 But fluoride is so uber-mentioned, so powerful, that even with reverse osmosis you only cut about 90% out.
00:36:31.000 Well, with the Black Berkey, with the added little filters that go onto it, it's hard to get rid of.
00:36:38.000 You get 99.8% of fluoride cut out.
00:36:44.000 It's unbelievable.
00:36:45.000 So, that's why we use it.
00:36:49.000 That's what we do.
00:36:50.000 We have a reverse osmosis for cooking.
00:36:52.000 You're already going to have minerals in the vegetables, the organic vegetables we eat.
00:36:56.000 But for drinking, for flavor, because it does leave in the good minerals, we have a Black Berkey.
00:37:01.000 And I still have one I bought five years ago, a white Berkey.
00:37:05.000 The British Berkey, the stainless steel Berkey.
00:37:07.000 So they've got whatever you want.
00:37:10.000 And they've also got rat terrier puppies for sale.
00:37:12.000 I'm joking.
00:37:13.000 Debbie, fire out the phone numbers for folks that want to call and get information or order any of the great items you guys offer that are made in America.
00:37:21.000 All of it's made in America.
00:37:23.000 Unless you want the British Berkey.
00:37:25.000 Go ahead.
00:37:25.000 Hi, thanks Alex.
00:37:27.000 It's toll free 1-888- 803-4438.
00:37:31.000 That's 1-888-803-4438.
00:37:32.000 And I'm so sorry about that.
00:37:33.000 I have you to put me on hold, but I'm so glad to be here.
00:37:38.000 Oh, come on.
00:37:39.000 Stop apologizing, Debbie.
00:37:42.000 You're a sweetheart.
00:37:42.000 Sorry about that.
00:37:43.000 I'm happy to put me on hold, but I'm so glad to be here.
00:37:45.000 Oh, come on.
00:37:46.000 Stop apologizing, Debbie.
00:37:47.000 You're a sweetheart.
00:37:48.000 888-803-4438.
00:37:51.000 And tell people the difference between a sports bottle and what it does.
00:37:56.000 It just makes sure the water is safe and cuts out a lot of garbage, which is good.
00:38:00.000 And compare it, then, to the $199 Black Berkey.
00:38:04.000 Well, the Berkey sport bottles take out about 99% of the pathogens.
00:38:09.000 They're 22-ounce, and they're very, very convenient for taking around with you.
00:38:14.000 For people that already have some, we have a new model now.
00:38:19.000 The model that we had previously had the filter in the top and you turned it over and you squeezed your water into a cup.
00:38:25.000 We now have a model that you drink it just like you're drinking a soda out of a straw.
00:38:30.000 The filter hangs down in the bottom.
00:38:32.000 I got one of those.
00:38:33.000 That is a big element, too.
00:38:35.000 They're great, too, because they're so handy.
00:38:38.000 You don't have to choke on it while you're squeezing it and trying to drink at the same time.
00:38:43.000 I just want to say this.
00:38:44.000 Back in another incarnation when I had more time, I would hunt and fish and camp five or six times a year.
00:38:52.000 Uh, sometimes for a week on end in a deep wilderness area.
00:38:56.000 And I would go into the camp and supply and pay $35 for one of these things with a little bitty element.
00:39:01.000 And it did make the water safe.
00:39:03.000 You guys, your element is about three times bigger than any element I've ever seen in a sports bottle.
00:39:09.000 Yeah, they are bigger and they last up to 640 refills.
00:39:13.000 And the other ones I bought would say 200, yeah.
00:39:15.000 Right.
00:39:15.000 And they're bacterial static.
00:39:17.000 You know, they have special properties in them to keep bacteria from growing in the straw and stuff.
00:39:21.000 I mean, they really do work really well.
00:39:24.000 Now isn't your $100... and those are $20 if you get 5 of them, right?
00:39:28.000 Correct.
00:39:30.000 And also, it's $199 for the big, you know, 2-gallon, see-through, high-quality, plexiglass-type Black Berkey with the elements, the black elements inside.
00:39:41.000 How much do they want, and that reduces fluoride, but how much for the post filters that go on the spigot?
00:39:48.000 The post filters that go on, attached to the Black Berkey filters for taking out fluoride and arsenic related to the fluoride are $49.
00:39:59.000 And if you call in and say that you're an Alex Jones listener and you buy the Berkey Light for $199, then you can ask for a free Berkey Sport Bottle which is a $39 savings.
00:40:12.000 And so then, you know, if you do or don't have fluoride, that's an additional filter that you can add with it.
00:40:18.000 And you've also got shower filters.
00:40:19.000 That's where you absorb a lot of the garbage into your lungs and the rest of it.
00:40:23.000 888-803-4438.
00:40:23.000 Debbie, thanks for coming on with us.
00:40:27.000 Alex, thank you so much for having me.
00:40:30.000 Talk to you soon.
00:40:31.000 Take care.
00:40:32.000 Folks, I've met her up in Dallas at an expo.
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00:40:39.000 If you call and it's busy, leave your name and number.
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00:40:50.000 Or go to Berkeywater.com and in the comments section, Tell them which free gift you want in the comments section and you'll get that.
00:41:00.000 You get two free gifts.
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00:41:08.000 888-803-4438 or berkeywater.com and they get the orders off their website every day and then ship them UPS ground.
00:41:15.000 If you order them off Infowars.com, we process the orders every day but then fax the order to them and it'll take a day or two more if you order through us.
00:41:23.000 But then we make a few bucks, which helps me pay my employees, so they can, you know, eat and be able to take care of themselves.
00:41:30.000 But either way, you can get it at Infowars.com, Berkeywater.com, or 888-803-4438.
00:41:37.000 Alright!
00:41:38.000 We'll get to all the news I mentioned earlier, but first let's go to the calls.
00:41:41.000 Jason in Maryland.
00:41:43.000 Jason, welcome.
00:41:44.000 Hi Alex, thanks.
00:41:45.000 Hello, sir.
00:41:46.000 With the things that I've learned listening to your show about the scripted Um, series and movies on what the CIA does.
00:41:57.000 Paid for by the government.
00:41:58.000 It's now public.
00:41:59.000 Well, what I saw last night was a bit disturbing.
00:42:02.000 I thought I'd call and tell you about it on Alias, which is a CIA series.
00:42:08.000 Yeah, he's a secret agent.
00:42:09.000 He doesn't know who he is.
00:42:10.000 Right.
00:42:11.000 Not the one I've seen yet.
00:42:13.000 They're bringing suitcase nukes into cities.
00:42:17.000 It's the previews that I saw for next week and they're saying that there's nothing they can do about it and they don't want to tell anybody because it's going to cause panic and that was the trailer for next week's series.
00:42:27.000 And it's the same thing on 24 and Threat Matrix, but if we all take chips and torture Americans and let men in black uniforms take all our rights, then we might be safe.
00:42:36.000 Of course.
00:42:36.000 But the border stays wide open.
00:42:38.000 And then on numbers, Well, we don't think it's legitimate.
00:42:44.000 an alien invasion, which I thought was rather comical, but apparently some people think that that might be a legitimate...
00:42:51.000 Well, we don't think it's legitimate.
00:42:56.000 We have government documents where they have, again, big old DC-10s and other former passenger planes.
00:43:05.000 They have them with particle beams, chemical lasers, it'll shoot right through missiles, you name it.
00:43:11.000 They also have them with huge hologram projectors and the computers link up and they project, you know, the 500,000 foot tall Jesus, Buddha, Allah.
00:43:21.000 That's admitted government program and they also have a program to project fake flying saucers.
00:43:27.000 They have blimps rigged up to look like flying saucers.
00:43:30.000 It's a major government program.
00:43:32.000 I had no idea.
00:43:33.000 No, it's real, sir.
00:43:35.000 Well, imparting my last question to you would be, why do you think Mr. Moussaoui was allowed to live and apparently speaking in court?
00:43:46.000 You're talking about Zacharias Moussaoui, the supposed 20th hijacker?
00:43:50.000 Yes.
00:43:51.000 Well, I mean, he's the only person they've charged out of thousands, it's like 4,000 arrests now, And he's the guy at the flight school going, I don't know, I don't want to know how to take off or land.
00:44:05.000 And the owner of the flight school called the FBI five times and began threatening to go public if they didn't do something.
00:44:13.000 And then the good FBI agents, Robert Wright, Rowley, others, tried to Go in and get a warrant for his computer.
00:44:23.000 And the FBI said no, because Bush had signed W199I.
00:44:27.000 Clinton had issued it before them.
00:44:28.000 Bush just reauthorized.
00:44:30.000 And then they told Wright, keep your mouth shut or we'll arrest you under national security.
00:44:35.000 And Moussaoui is obviously one of the actual patsies, and he's been trying to say that in court.
00:44:42.000 They won't let him face any of his accusers.
00:44:44.000 They won't let him call witnesses.
00:44:46.000 And so that's playing out nicely.
00:44:48.000 So he is not really a threat, even though he might be privy to some information?
00:44:54.000 Yeah, he's a French useful idiot.
00:44:57.000 They've always got to have one patsy.
00:44:58.000 With the Reichstag, it was a retarded Dutchman.
00:45:03.000 With the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, it was a small mosque that had about 25 members above a pizza parlor with a blind cleric.
00:45:14.000 And they literally got two members of the mosque who were both clinically retarded on welfare for being retarded.
00:45:22.000 And it took the FBI a month to train one of them how to drive.
00:45:27.000 The FBI went and showed them where to park it, up against the column, the people the FBI had hired.
00:45:34.000 And they had to cook the bomb, train the driver, they had to give them the detonators.
00:45:38.000 And then Ahmad Salam said, okay, they're about to carry out the bombing, let's sting them.
00:45:43.000 And he was a security agent, Egyptian equivalent of a CIA agent.
00:45:49.000 He thought it was a sting, because he'd run similar stings with real Muslim extremists in Egypt.
00:45:56.000 And they said, no, the bombing goes forward.
00:45:57.000 He thought it was a setup for him.
00:45:59.000 So he went and recorded them in like 15 hours of arguments.
00:46:04.000 And gave a press conference and released that.
00:46:05.000 It wasn't the New York Times, Chicago Tribune one time.
00:46:08.000 The FBI did carry out the bombing, of course.
00:46:10.000 They released those tapes?
00:46:12.000 Uh, and yes, and he played them at a press conference and they seized them under national security.
00:46:19.000 Wow.
00:46:19.000 And then paid him off, I think it was 1.5 mil, and he left the country.
00:46:24.000 They paid him to shut up.
00:46:26.000 Can you please explain to me in a nutshell what W199I is, and I'll take the answer off air.
00:46:32.000 Thank you.
00:46:32.000 Thank you.
00:46:33.000 We have a copy of what was, again, Gregory Pallast, the Newsnight chief reporter, an award-winning investigative journalist, was faxed Days before 9-11, and in fact more material after 9-11, and we know who, we won't give up the source, but we know who.
00:46:55.000 It was former FBI Deputy Director who quit a month before 9-11, John O'Neill, who by the way died in the towers mysteriously.
00:47:05.000 Because he didn't see the full picture.
00:47:06.000 He was hired as the head of security by Marvin Bush's company.
00:47:10.000 He was running security.
00:47:11.000 And his first day at work was to report to, what, the 76th floor, one of the exact impact points, one of the towers.
00:47:19.000 He did report to work and didn't do too well, as we all know.
00:47:22.000 Yeah, I saw a plane coming right in at him.
00:47:25.000 Boy, they know how to do it, don't they?
00:47:29.000 He told London Telegraph and others, and London Independent also reported, a month before he quit, he went to Europe, he said, one of the quotes was, is that they're going to allow a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center as a pretext to get Afghan oil.
00:47:45.000 So he didn't see the whole thing.
00:47:46.000 And he quit over it, was very disgusted, he was a good man, and they whacked him on 9-11.
00:47:53.000 and uh... W199 got released and Clinton had first signed it in 96 ordering a Hamas to be left alone and an Al Qaeda in this country and then Bush had reauthorized it months before 9-11 and so the FBI field office in DC
00:48:11.000 from a deputy director's fax machine uh... was sent to Greg Powell's and other members of the media here but only Greg Powell's picked it up he was sent uh... I think it was forty pages he said but he BBC would only let him release the front two pages he was going to release it all but the U.S.
00:48:29.000 government they have a law in England that the government says don't release something they can't the U.S.
00:48:33.000 government asked them to put in that clause activate that clause so it was never fully released But it's all come out.
00:48:42.000 FBI agents have given press conferences about it, where they were quote, ordered.
00:48:45.000 And then Robert Wright got up in 2002 and started crying.
00:48:49.000 The Chicago Chief Terrorism Agent started crying with the head of Judicial Watch, Larry Klayman, started crying and said, here's the letter, I'll be arrested.
00:48:59.000 And they circulated the letter.
00:49:01.000 If I tell you what I know, I just love this country and we could have stopped it, but I was ordered not to.
00:49:05.000 And he started crying and then Larry Kleiman got up and pushed him aside and said, yes, it's true.
00:49:11.000 I've been given the letter too.
00:49:12.000 So has David Shepard, who was there via phone.
00:49:15.000 And David Shepard also told you the same stuff here months before, what, a week after 9-11 on this show, the man who ran the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
00:49:24.000 And Larry Kleiman said, all we can tell you is the Bush's vacation with the bin Laden's.
00:49:31.000 And so it came out that FBI agents in Phoenix, FBI agents in Dallas, FBI agents in Minneapolis-St.
00:49:38.000 Paul, FBI agents in Wisconsin, FBI agents in New York, FBI agents in D.C., FBI agents in San Francisco, FBI agents in Albuquerque, FBI agents everywhere were threatened with arrest if they tried to stop Al-Cieda.
00:49:53.000 Mike, in Arizona, you're on the air, go ahead.
00:49:56.000 Yes, good morning Alex.
00:49:58.000 I'd like to touch on this Larry Franklin AIPAC thing.
00:50:03.000 Yesterday, it seems to be getting some conflicting reports here.
00:50:09.000 For those who don't know, tell people what you're talking about.
00:50:12.000 Okay, there is a political action committee, it's called AIPAC, American-Israeli Political Action Committee, and they lobby Congress to get benefits for Israel.
00:50:23.000 And Mr. Franklin, he worked in the Department of Defense underneath Wolfowitz and Pipe.
00:50:28.000 Yes.
00:50:29.000 And he was collecting documents and I guess he had passed some information to plans on attacking Iran.
00:50:36.000 Passed those to AIPAC to pass them on to Iran.
00:50:41.000 And yesterday he was arrested by the FBI.
00:50:44.000 I just find it odd that the mainstream media just wants to say that it's an organization that ties Israel... Tell you what, stay there!
00:50:51.000 Stay there!
00:50:53.000 No, it's an Israeli intelligence gathering operation undermining this nation.
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00:53:55.000 All these governments are are mafia.
00:54:09.000 Thank you.
00:54:10.000 Thank you.
00:54:12.000 You got your Arab mafias over the Middle East, very corrupt.
00:54:14.000 You got your Israeli mafia.
00:54:15.000 You got our government mafia.
00:54:17.000 And basically they all just work together.
00:54:19.000 Or occasionally they fight with each other.
00:54:21.000 And yeah, Israeli spies get arrested all the time.
00:54:24.000 And they never seem to get in trouble.
00:54:25.000 They get arrested, then they get released.
00:54:27.000 Then nothing happens, or they release him, they jump on a plane back to Tel Aviv, and then it's a minor footnote in the news, but finish up what you were saying, Mike.
00:54:37.000 In Arizona, you still there?
00:54:39.000 Yes, I am.
00:54:39.000 I was going to let you finish up, go ahead.
00:54:41.000 Okay, well this is obviously espionage, and espionage during a time of war is punishable by death, but Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez has already come out and said that we're going to go easy on this guy.
00:54:54.000 And that was an interview by CIA Ray McGovern this morning I heard.
00:54:59.000 And if anybody would like any more information about AIPAC and the extreme pressure that they can bring on the Congress, Department of Defense, and the State Department, Paul Findley, a representative from Illinois, wrote a book called They Dare to Speak Out.
00:55:13.000 Maybe you could get him on your show sometime.
00:55:15.000 Send me an email with the info and thanks for the call.
00:55:19.000 Israeli Mossad-controlled companies control the caller ID database that like 90% of the country uses.
00:55:28.000 They're involved in wiretapping our government.
00:55:31.000 They run the security for the Pentagon, you name it.
00:55:33.000 For the phones.
00:55:35.000 I mean, it's a joke.
00:55:36.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:55:38.000 And we shouldn't put up with it.
00:55:41.000 Oh, we can trust Israel.
00:55:42.000 No, we can't.
00:55:44.000 Israel has been caught selling arms to Iran, China, Pakistan.
00:55:50.000 Our government does it to some of the British.
00:55:52.000 I mean, it's crazy.
00:55:54.000 No one's got connections to Al-Qaeda like our government in Israel.
00:55:58.000 No one's got connections to Hamas like Israel.
00:56:00.000 You know, it's come out in major Harats and UPI and others, but even Israeli papers, that there are fake Al-Qaeda groups Israel controls that carry out bombings in Israel.
00:56:09.000 Now that's not Alex Jones!
00:56:12.000 That's Israeli newspapers!
00:56:15.000 And they create these crises so they have a pretext to keep their police state going Which everybody lives in Israel.
00:56:22.000 Jews and Palestinians.
00:56:24.000 And Arabs.
00:56:25.000 I mean, it's a mess, folks.
00:56:27.000 And I'm not against Israel itself.
00:56:30.000 About half the people living in Israel, the Jews, half the Jews are against what Israel's doing.
00:56:34.000 You know, they have censorship, they have control, they have all this.
00:56:38.000 It's all about an endless fog of war, an endless emergency.
00:56:42.000 Governments need these to keep control.
00:56:46.000 And Israel and its intelligence agencies dwarf Russia and Germany and France.
00:56:52.000 They're espionage.
00:56:54.000 Because it's looked on as acceptable.
00:56:56.000 It is not acceptable.
00:57:00.000 We're going to start the second hour.
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00:58:57.000 Big Brother.
00:58:59.000 Mainstream media.
00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:02.000 You want answers?
00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:16.000 All right, my friends, it's Thursday, my friends, it's Thursday, the fifth day of May.
00:59:36.000 I know we got a lot of phone calls online, we'll be getting to those early in this hour.
00:59:42.000 A ton of news.
00:59:43.000 This obvious election stunt of these toy grenades going off in New York.
00:59:49.000 Classic MO of MI6.
00:59:52.000 Russian pilots to make rain stay away at military parade, ABC News.
00:59:56.000 Just an example of weather control.
00:59:58.000 Government researchers tested AIDS drugs on foster children, deadly toxic drugs that even killed some of them.
01:00:04.000 Italian website banned over Nazi Pope picture.
01:00:07.000 We'll talk about why that's so important, why that's so dangerous to free speech.
01:00:12.000 That's just some of what's coming up.
01:00:14.000 A few weeks ago I had a chance to hear him on Jack Blood's broadcast and I was aware of his work already.
01:00:19.000 We posted some of his articles.
01:00:21.000 from his powerful website.
01:00:23.000 But he's going to be with us this hour and into the next, if you'd like to stay with us, to talk about left gatekeepers.
01:00:29.000 And I'm aware of the church hearings decades ago in Congress.
01:00:33.000 I'm aware of Operation Mockingbird, of what the tax-free foundations are doing, how they control the false left paradigm to make sure that change never takes place down at the grassroots level.
01:00:44.000 But he's done a masterful job, from their own documents and public statements, from compiling how the left is controlled.
01:00:52.000 And so Charles Shaw now joins us.
01:00:55.000 And Charles, it's great to have you with us.
01:00:59.000 Thanks a lot, Alex.
01:01:01.000 It's really great to be on your show.
01:01:04.000 Before we go any further, fire out your website and who you are and how you got involved.
01:01:08.000 Well, the website and the publication is called Newtopia.
01:01:12.000 It's newtopiamagazine.com or newtopiamagazine.net or .org.
01:01:21.000 N-E-W-T-O-P-I-A.
01:01:23.000 I'm the publisher and chief editor.
01:01:25.000 I founded it, oh, three years ago.
01:01:28.000 And it was mostly out of, uh, an inability to get a lot of my work published in the so-called progressive media.
01:01:36.000 Well, it looks good.
01:01:37.000 The site looks good, but the material's even better.
01:01:40.000 Well, we've actually come a long way, and we've built a really respectable, healthy readership.
01:01:45.000 We've got some really great contributors, and we give people the freedom to say what they want to say, which is unlike the people we'll be discussing on your show today.
01:01:56.000 Absolutely, and I want to get into the structure of it yourself.
01:02:02.000 You've got a nice little graph there, and this is public available knowledge.
01:02:07.000 And so you wonder why you go to a little neo-liberal meeting, that's what they've been called for many years, neo-liberals, and you wonder why there's nothing substantive.
01:02:16.000 It's a mindless chant.
01:02:19.000 It's centralized.
01:02:20.000 It's idiocy.
01:02:22.000 And you really documented this.
01:02:25.000 Yeah.
01:02:25.000 Well, the one thing that really inspired all of this is that I've been a political activist for a number of years now, and I've been deeply involved in the anti-war movement.
01:02:34.000 And what I just couldn't figure out was why only certain issues were permitted to be discussed, and why there was this kind of very strong culture of containment amongst the so-called left and the anti-war movement.
01:02:51.000 That kind of really got sparked even greater when I started getting involved with the 9-11 Truth Movement a couple years ago, and found that any discussion of this whatsoever was shut down before it even got through the door.
01:03:04.000 And now a lot of the Grand Poobahs, the self-appointed leaders of the 9-11 Truth Movement, are saying, hey, it's over, don't talk about 9-11 anymore, just leave it alone.
01:03:16.000 Yeah, I hear that.
01:03:17.000 And we know some of the personalities who are talking about that.
01:03:21.000 Why don't you just follow their orders?
01:03:23.000 I'm going to shut up now because they told me to.
01:03:26.000 Right, precisely.
01:03:27.000 I mean, it's pointless to fight evil.
01:03:32.000 I think you got certain people who didn't get the response they wanted, and so because they didn't get that response, they're now telling everybody to back off the issue.
01:03:40.000 Or because they're not following their particular theories to the letter.
01:03:43.000 But I do think that it's still very much an alive issue.
01:03:46.000 Oh, it's bigger than ever!
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01:03:48.000 Stay with us!
01:03:49.000 We'll be back to talk about the new, new Left Gatekeeper.
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01:07:02.000 You want answers?
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01:07:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:07:13.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, we're now well into the second hour.
01:07:37.000 We're talking to Charles Schaum, and he's a journalist, media activist, has a great news website.
01:07:45.000 And we're now learning, and we've known for years on this broadcast and documented it, there's been congressional hearings, as I said, decades ago about it, that thousands of prominent reporters are on The Department of Education's payroll, the FBI's payroll, the CIA's payroll, the state police have people on their payroll working in major newspapers.
01:08:09.000 Now thousands sounds like a lot, but there are hundreds of thousands of reporters, but they're key reporters.
01:08:15.000 But we also have the controlled opposition in the left and the right.
01:08:22.000 An example is Free Republic.
01:08:25.000 One of the biggest so-called conservative alternative websites won't let you get on there and post the billboards of Clear Channel putting up billboards saying that L.A.
01:08:33.000 is Mexico.
01:08:34.000 They will take it down.
01:08:36.000 They won't let myself in the past, my listeners, post AP articles about Delta Force anti-terror grills in Texas that were scaring the daylights out of the public and attempted bribery.
01:08:48.000 Even when it was in the front page of the San Antonio Express News.
01:08:51.000 None of that exists.
01:08:52.000 New World Order doesn't exist.
01:08:55.000 George Bush is Lord.
01:08:58.000 He is good.
01:09:00.000 We see that going on.
01:09:02.000 But on the other side of it, we have the controlled left.
01:09:05.000 And folks, there's Professor Jensen here in Austin who's on national TV on a weekly basis.
01:09:11.000 And he attacks me, he can't stand me, he tried to keep me from speaking in a rally we put on on the one year anniversary.
01:09:18.000 I mean, we put it on, they show up and try to take over.
01:09:21.000 And I actually had to have the police that were there, the Crawford Police, explain.
01:09:24.000 No, this is their event.
01:09:26.000 You guys were invited out here to speak.
01:09:28.000 And they had to step aside.
01:09:29.000 I mean, these people are amazing.
01:09:30.000 They don't want the New World Order discussed.
01:09:32.000 They don't want 9-11 discussed.
01:09:33.000 They don't want you to hear the Democrats are controlled.
01:09:36.000 They don't want you to hear the United Nations was set up by the very foundations that control both our political parties.
01:09:42.000 And we have the facts.
01:09:43.000 We have the evidence.
01:09:45.000 And I mean, right down to the grassroots, it's controlled.
01:09:49.000 We have the majority view, a populist, pro-freedom, pro-liberty view.
01:09:55.000 We could take this country back, but they control the grassroots organizations.
01:10:00.000 So many of them.
01:10:02.000 So here, the detail, the make-up of this is Charles Shaw.
01:10:07.000 So Charles, let's again recap how you woke up to this, some examples at the local, individual level that was part of your wake-up as a researcher, to the fact that you were right in the middle of the controlled system, expanding out then to the history of it, and then modern examples.
01:10:26.000 I got really interested in the whole issue when I was actually examining the role of not-for-profit corporations, 501c3s, which by their very definition are not allowed to be involved in any kind of electoral politics.
01:10:44.000 So they can't lobby, they can't support campaigns and any of this stuff.
01:10:50.000 But at the same time this is happening, right, we had United for Peace and Justice, which is probably the largest, quote, anti-war coalition in the country.
01:10:59.000 They got over 800 member groups.
01:11:02.000 They spent the better part of the 2004 campaign surreptitiously campaigning for John Kerry.
01:11:10.000 Now, I was kind of curious how they did this, and why they spent so much energy putting together demonstrations at the Republican National Convention, but barely even bothered to show up at the Democratic Convention a month earlier in Boston.
01:11:25.000 Now, that's not 800 members, that's 800 groups!
01:11:28.000 800 groups with thousands of members, yes, across the country.
01:11:35.000 You start to look into their organizational structure, the people that are behind it, the history of them.
01:11:40.000 I started just doing some basic research, and that's when I pulled up Bob Feldman's article, which is, you know, The Left Gatekeepers, and a number of different sub-articles he's done on alternative media censorship.
01:11:56.000 Lots of things on the Ford Foundation, George Soros, the Rockefeller Foundation, etc., etc.
01:12:03.000 So digging even deeper into that, we come up with the chart that Feldman and our friend Don Paul helped put together.
01:12:13.000 Uh, which kind of lays out a flow chart of some of the bigger foundations in left medium.
01:12:18.000 We're talking about the Schumann Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Soros Foundation, and then lastly the MacArthur Foundation.
01:12:28.000 And these are the very people, the very foundations whose public policy reports that have, again we've got 70 years of these, say eternal war, world government, they control the Republicans, they support them, it's totally staged.
01:12:43.000 Absolutely.
01:12:44.000 Well, I mean, you're looking at... Let's go over examples of this.
01:12:46.000 So you start seeing this, then you're involved in the anti-war movement, you start looking around you.
01:12:52.000 Right.
01:12:53.000 And a number of things happened, mostly being the faltering of the anti-war movement following the Republican Convention.
01:13:01.000 The anti-war movement got co-opted up into John Kerry's campaign in the fall of 2004.
01:13:07.000 And then immediately following the election, you know, we launched this sustained offensive on Fallujah and just absolutely leveled the city.
01:13:16.000 And the only person that was kind of giving us the real deal on it was an independent journalist named Dar Jamal.
01:13:22.000 It was going on and on and on, explaining about how people were being slaughtered indiscriminately, that the city had been bombed to rubble, and that, you know, the government's countering with all of this stuff about, oh, well, it's, you know, Ba'athist insurgents, and it's Al-Qaeda, and it's everything but people defending their own land.
01:13:40.000 There was an area response to this in the anti-war movement.
01:13:43.000 I was in San Francisco at the time, you know, the hotbed for political activism.
01:13:47.000 We barely had 500 people come out to a demonstration.
01:13:51.000 And I started asking, well, why isn't anybody out here?
01:13:53.000 And what I'm getting from all the leadership of the anti-war movement is, oh, well, we're saving our energy for the counter-inaugural.
01:14:00.000 We're all going to be in Washington, D.C.
01:14:01.000 in January, and it's going to be bedlam.
01:14:03.000 We're going to give Bush our minds.
01:14:05.000 Well, you know, I went there, and I was with our good friend John Buchanan and a couple other people, and there was nobody there.
01:14:14.000 I mean, there was barely 10,000 people in D.C.
01:14:16.000 But there were 66,000 police and military.
01:14:21.000 Forty thousand police, from what I understand, and another, I think there was, if I remember right, 4,000 armed combat troops.
01:14:30.000 The number is 66,000.
01:14:31.000 Okay, yeah, and then, you know, state troops, and regional, and everybody that was pulled in.
01:14:36.000 And the military was in command.
01:14:38.000 Oh, yeah.
01:14:39.000 Yeah.
01:14:39.000 Well, I suppose they're very proud of it.
01:14:41.000 It was, uh, well, you know, we had a group that we had put together to organize for it, and, uh, you know... Outgoing, Ren Ridge said this is the model for the rest of the country, the military in command of cities.
01:14:51.000 I'd say that, and, and... No, he gave a speech, uh, the day before the inaugural, and, and, and said what a great job they were doing.
01:14:58.000 Well, you know, if you're playing upon people's fears, sure, they are doing a great job.
01:15:02.000 I mean, this is a martial law drill, so, so all this is going on, you start tracking who these leaders of these movements are, where was their money coming from?
01:15:11.000 Well, there's various foundations that have their hands in all of this, but what you've got is a lot of money coming from George Soros, who we all know is a huge moving force in the globalist.
01:15:28.000 He's a Bilderberger.
01:15:29.000 He was a former director of the CFR.
01:15:32.000 He put over $100 million into the Carlyle Group.
01:15:35.000 He is a Rothschild gopher.
01:15:39.000 He's got his hands in the central banking system.
01:15:41.000 He's got everything going on.
01:15:43.000 And then he also uses quite a bit of his own money through his foundation.
01:15:47.000 And again, this is the CFR that loves Bush.
01:15:50.000 This is all this fake left-right system.
01:15:52.000 Well, exactly.
01:15:53.000 It is a fake left-right system.
01:15:55.000 It is divide and rule.
01:15:57.000 And these people, and we're talking about folks like Medea Benjamin, who founded Global Exchange, and Leslie Kagan, And an ilk of these people, you know, who are all former members of the Communist Party, and then now they're suddenly self-style progressives, you know, they're constraining and limiting what is allowed to be said, what tactics and strategies are allowed to be implemented, and the fact that they have
01:16:26.000 Managed to completely box the anti-war debate in this anybody but Bush mantra.
01:16:32.000 And they don't want us to talk about 9-11.
01:16:37.000 Absolutely not.
01:16:38.000 I mean, categorically not, Alex.
01:16:39.000 I mean, I need to really make this point here is that, you know, 500 delegates traveled across the country to their assembly in February in order to sit down and say, look, the anti-war movement is going nowhere here.
01:16:51.000 What are we going to do?
01:16:52.000 And these folks The small cadre of people already came in with proposals that were already going to be passed.
01:16:59.000 The 9-11 Truth folks, and there was a whole contingent of them from a diverse group of 9-11 activist organizations, they were shut out of the debate.
01:17:06.000 They were not even allowed to present their proposal.
01:17:10.000 This was something that, it was tacit, it was silent, it was passive-aggressive, they glad-handed them to their faces and then they just completely condescended to them when they actually got up there to do something.
01:17:22.000 And they actually empower by the way that they Bring forward their political ideas, the neocons, with fodder to demonize anybody who doesn't agree with this current management crew.
01:17:35.000 The Globalists have an office known as George Bush and Neocon and Company.
01:17:39.000 An example is Ward Churchill.
01:17:40.000 He comes out and says, the people that died in the towers were Nazi technicians, you know, they're not victims.
01:17:47.000 Then they all go trumpeting that instead of the anti-war movement telling the truth, that globalists were behind 9-11, it was a pretext, here's PNAC documents, to invade and have a worldwide empire.
01:17:58.000 No!
01:17:58.000 They come out with agendas that are designed to fail!
01:18:02.000 Well, you know, think about what would have happened if they were to pick up this mantra.
01:18:07.000 If they were to go out there and start telling people... If you had 100,000 people nationwide marching every week saying it.
01:18:12.000 Yeah, or more importantly, if you had 100 million people demanding that people like George Soros and the Council of Foreign Relations... Yeah, because if the left gatekeepers got on the side of exposing 9-11, it'd be over.
01:18:25.000 Precisely.
01:18:25.000 But it's not going to happen because they're controlled.
01:18:27.000 Precisely.
01:18:29.000 But I want to go into the foundations.
01:18:30.000 I want to go into the church hearings, what we learned, the Carnegie documents we got, how these so-called leftist groups actually say, we want war, we want this.
01:18:40.000 It's unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen.
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01:23:03.000 The press is the hired agent of a money system set up for no other reason than to tell us lies.
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01:23:39.000 So, again, this is how they control the debate.
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01:23:50.000 I got a chance to see him in New York during the demonstrations of 400,000 people that the media barely covered and tried to minimize how many people were really there.
01:24:00.000 He got locked up in the Guantanamo on the Hudson, Pier 57.
01:24:04.000 Of course, I was there videotaping it across the street and threatened with arrest there as well.
01:24:09.000 So we'll tell you that story too, but let's get into the Carnegie Rockefeller Brothers, the Ford Foundation, because we've got their documents.
01:24:17.000 It's come out in congressional testimony where they actually push for war, but then also fund the anti-war movement to make sure it fails and to make sure it looks stupid and says horrible things.
01:24:27.000 Well, we know they hired thugs in the 60s to go break windows in towns so the police would then have the pretext to go attack the peaceful pro-war, I mean anti-war people.
01:24:37.000 To make it look good for the pro-war people.
01:24:40.000 We know that a lot of these anarchists are hired by them today.
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01:24:56.000 We have all this on video and the police were then ordered to attack the peaceful protesters.
01:25:00.000 So it's the same system over and over again and so many well-meaning leftist bleeding hearts We haven't yet woken up to this, and that's why we're under the globalist control, is because they and the phony conservatives have been co-opted.
01:25:16.000 Charles Shaw, let's get into the history of this.
01:25:19.000 Alright, well you know, there's a really telling quote from the Chicago Tribune back in 1950.
01:25:24.000 And they were doing a story on the Council on Foreign Relations, and they said, quote, The members have used their prestige, that their wealth, their social position, and their education have given them to lead the country towards bankruptcy and military debacle.
01:25:41.000 They should look at their hands.
01:25:43.000 There is blood on them.
01:25:44.000 The dry blood of the last war, referring to World War II, and the fresh blood of the present one, referring to Korea.
01:25:51.000 You know, we know Roosevelt was a member of the CFR.
01:25:54.000 We know that it was Roosevelt who got us into World War II.
01:25:59.000 These groups have continued to shape policy by flooding money down the... These groups funded Hitler!
01:26:06.000 They funded Stalin, they funded Lenin, before it was just the Royal Institute of International Affairs in England.
01:26:13.000 I mean, it's the same M.O.
01:26:14.000 Go ahead.
01:26:15.000 They funded Saddam, they funded Al-Qaeda.
01:26:17.000 Go ahead.
01:26:18.000 You've got the central bankers, the Rothschilds, what have you.
01:26:22.000 You've got them funding both sides, the capitalist, communist side.
01:26:25.000 You've got them funding and creating Hitler.
01:26:27.000 But more importantly, you've got our own people, namely the Bush family, funding the rise of the Third Reich as well.
01:26:33.000 Uh, you know, there's a lot of material out there on the business dealings between Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker, A. Avril Harriman, who is their boss, and a guy named Fritz Thyssen, who is a Nazi industrialist.
01:26:46.000 Yeah, there's a new film out about that!
01:26:49.000 Well, this is something that our friend John Buchanan went and he went to the National Archives.
01:26:49.000 Right.
01:26:55.000 He got the official documents from our own government that showed how Prescott Bush and his ilk were profiting.
01:27:02.000 Well, I have articles from 42 in major newspapers with Prescott Bush in there.
01:27:06.000 Alright, so you've got all the Trading with the Enemy Act stuff.
01:27:08.000 Yes.
01:27:09.000 Yeah, I mean, this stuff.
01:27:10.000 Here comes John.
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01:27:12.000 You guys want to get the Bush family?
01:27:14.000 Let's go.
01:27:14.000 Here's my story.
01:27:15.000 Not even the left media, not even the purported Bush haters would touch the story.
01:27:22.000 The London Guardian did pick it up, though.
01:27:24.000 They did, but they only picked it up about a year later.
01:27:27.000 And it was, you know, it was ex post facto.
01:27:28.000 Yeah, it was after the election.
01:27:31.000 You know, but there's a book out there by Charles Hingham called Trading with the Enemy.
01:27:35.000 It has a lot to do with the stuff we're talking about, but it also documents how, you know, the Rockefellers, through Standard Oil and Ford, through Ford Motors, they made a hell of a lot of money selling oil, tanks, and steel to the Nazis, even during wartime.
01:27:52.000 You know, during the Allied bombing of Germany, one of the only places that was spared was the Ford Motor Plant in Cologne.
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01:28:09.000 Topol plants.
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01:28:28.000 And they own the left gatekeepers and we're going to document that when we get back.
01:28:32.000 I mean, it's a fact.
01:28:33.000 They take money from the foundations that then push the war with their other hand.
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01:35:30.000 Charles Shaw, for those who just joined us, tell us about your website.
01:35:34.000 The website is Newtopia Magazine.
01:35:37.000 The URL is newtopiamagazine.com.net or .org.
01:35:42.000 N-E-W-T-O-P-I-A.
01:35:45.000 We bill ourselves as the Journal of the New Counterculture.
01:35:48.000 We like to report on the history Social movement, politics, art, culture, what have you, is moved out of the mainstream.
01:36:02.000 Well, that's important.
01:36:03.000 Now, Charles, let's continue with a little bit more of the history and then we'll start going to calls.
01:36:08.000 I mean, we have the congressional documents, we have it all.
01:36:11.000 We know that Carney and Ford and Rockefeller and all these groups, while they're funding open borders and the takeover of the country, while they're They're funding anti-gun movements while they're funding NPR radio, putting out this controlled opposition.
01:36:24.000 They're also out there funding and pushing the pro-war movement successfully, and then you linked it back to some of the so-called grassroots anti-war groups.
01:36:33.000 That's correct.
01:36:34.000 You know, there was something that came out last week by Robert Perry, who is, you know, another journalist who had his career slashed for, you know, looking into the wrong corners.
01:36:43.000 But on Consortium News, he puts something out about the rise of right media.
01:36:48.000 And he says that, you know, and he correctly identifies that after the Vietnam War movement kind of dissipated in the mid-70s, the left decided to kind of abandon media and they went into this whole not-for-profit grassroots organizing structure.
01:37:07.000 Well, you know, first of all, the irony of trying to oppose a system which you then have to go in and allow yourself to be regulated by, as the government regulates, not-for-profits.
01:37:18.000 And it's the same with our churches.
01:37:19.000 In the past, churches didn't pay taxes because of the First Amendment.
01:37:22.000 Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
01:37:28.000 So they're all out preaching pro-war.
01:37:30.000 And out preaching pro-microchip or pro-anti-gun, and telling us that Bush is of the Lord.
01:37:36.000 I mean, it's the same thing.
01:37:38.000 I mean, quote, government isn't supposed to be involved, but it's the complete opposite.
01:37:42.000 Through separation of church and state, we've gotten the opposite.
01:37:45.000 The government controlling it, well, it's the same thing with the left.
01:37:47.000 Right, but the thing that people aren't really recognizing is that You know, the churches and their not-for-profit structures advocating for pro-war and the left advocating for supposedly anti-war views, they're both just funded by the same parent companies set apart against each other.
01:38:07.000 I mean, the left allowed itself, they let themselves over... And that's why the arguments are so mindless and childish, because it's not even real.
01:38:15.000 It's WWF wrestling!
01:38:18.000 More importantly, it's partisan politicking.
01:38:21.000 It's like the WWF owns the contracts.
01:38:24.000 On the managers of both wrestlers that are having their stage fight.
01:38:29.000 Right.
01:38:30.000 And you know, don't really hurt each other.
01:38:31.000 Just kind of get in there and make it look good and say all the right things.
01:38:35.000 Well, this never got more obvious than Kerry's cousins on every side of his family with Bush.
01:38:39.000 Two years apart at skull and bones.
01:38:41.000 He's for the war.
01:38:42.000 He's for the Patriot Act.
01:38:43.000 He's for open borders.
01:38:44.000 He's for everything.
01:38:46.000 And I can have arguments with moron leftists who think he was actually against it all.
01:38:51.000 I know, it's really... Alex, I can't even begin to try to explain that.
01:38:55.000 The level of denial and obtuseness as far as these people thinking that there was any substantial difference between these guys absolutely boggles my mind.
01:39:03.000 And I think what it really comes down to is that there is a belief within certain, you know, let's just call it wings or certain areas of the Democratic Party Particularly a group that calls themselves the Progressive Democrats of America.
01:39:15.000 I happen to think that's an oxymoron.
01:39:17.000 But, you know, they happen to think that they are not, quote, the Democratic Party.
01:39:21.000 Peter Kameo said, well, that's like saying that the Panama Canal is not Panama.
01:39:25.000 But nonetheless, you have them out there, and they're saying, well, John Kerry doesn't represent the Democratic Party.
01:39:31.000 We do.
01:39:32.000 The people do.
01:39:33.000 And the rank-and-file is against the war.
01:39:35.000 Well, if the rank-and-file is against the war, then again, we have to keep asking them, why are they signing off on these Democratic leaders that are, without any kind of debate, and without any kind of challenge, Giving the Bush Administration every dollar they want to go over there and range across the world and expand this empire.
01:39:56.000 Well, I mean, where are the Democrats now?
01:39:58.000 They're not harping on the admission there were no WMDs, the admission that they lied about it, all of just the incredible frauds and scams that are going on.
01:40:07.000 That's all basically a dead issue.
01:40:09.000 It's just, yeah, they lied to us and now they're going to attack Iran.
01:40:13.000 And some of the rhetoric coming out of the so-called democratic leaders about Iran and about Syria and about North Korea is really frightening.
01:40:22.000 I mean, you know, they want to go and pigeonhole the neocons as being hawks and imperialists, but this is a bipartisan policy, and it's very much so.
01:40:32.000 It's political suicide for any politician, Democrat or Republican, to challenge this leviathan defense budget.
01:40:40.000 But we've been bilking the people out of half a trillion dollars a year, and that's just what's on the book.
01:40:45.000 Well, it's $600 billion this year, and then there's hundreds of billions off-budget.
01:40:49.000 Plus, Iraq has already cost us $200 billion.
01:40:52.000 Plus, you've got to talk about another few hundred million that are thrown into the so-called war on drugs.
01:40:59.000 Uh, for, you know, military interventions in Columbia.
01:41:01.000 And not just to go after their competition and also grab the kids that were dumb enough to use the CIA narcotics and put them in these privately owned prisons working for 20 cents an hour.
01:41:10.000 Right.
01:41:11.000 Well, we could go on for a whole other hour talking about the prison profits and, you know, I live in Chicago and, you know, you're talking about how New York is exporting this Security model and police state model, but you know we've... Chicago's a testing ground now.
01:41:25.000 They just put up the big Homeland Security announcement speakers that also take over radio and TV.
01:41:30.000 That's right, but not only that, what's even more frightening is that on 2,000 light posts across the city they have high-resolution cameras that can zoom in up to three miles.
01:41:39.000 They're monitoring people that walk on the street.
01:41:41.000 Face scanning software.
01:41:43.000 Right.
01:41:44.000 But not the borders!
01:41:47.000 and uh... you know we've got our own fair share of you know uh... illegal immigrant problems here and they're using you know this is a pretext to you know kind of sterm and drunk through all the neighborhoods uh... they're very uh... anything even resembling fourth amendment protection rights in chicago is right out the way you have a mafia dynasty running your city uh... yeah I mean does the mafia want to keep control of its slaves and take their guns?
01:42:12.000 Of course they do!
01:42:13.000 That's another thing, that's another thing uh... uh... uh... Charles Shaw The left loves to wear Che Guevara shirts with him on an AK-47, but when the citizens of America want to have guns to defend themselves against tyranny, oh, it's suddenly bad!
01:42:27.000 Now I'm talking to so many people who were, quote, leftists who've woken up, they're now going out and buying firearms.
01:42:32.000 Comments?
01:42:33.000 I'll give you one better.
01:42:35.000 First, they don't understand the issue.
01:42:38.000 And they have to first recognize that their government is the threat before they can recognize that they need to protect themselves from the government.
01:42:45.000 So I'm behind you on that one.
01:42:47.000 And I understand the push to remove the Second Amendment from, you know, American people's lives.
01:42:53.000 But the problem with that is that the left still thinks that they somehow can affect things through the legislative process.
01:42:59.000 They still seem to think that the legislative process isn't The President's Attorney General has said he's above the law and they can torture people to death!
01:43:08.000 And who is there to stop them?
01:43:09.000 And that's really the problem.
01:43:11.000 I want to go back just a second to you talking about Che Guevara and the idea of the revolution.
01:43:15.000 So many of these older Vietnam era people who are now purported leaders in the anti-war movement, These folks, you know, were all radical socialists and communists in the 60s and 70s, and I'm not, you know, necessarily saying that that's like a bad thing, because, again, I firmly believe that the whole left-right dichotomy is a complete illusion.
01:43:35.000 So whatever you subscribe to, the bottom line is they were advocating for revolution pretty strongly.
01:43:40.000 And then here we come into this assembly that they had in February.
01:43:44.000 We're trying to come up with new plans to stop the war and to stop the empire.
01:43:49.000 And we're talking about taking much more dramatic stances and Even minor rhetoric like an overthrow of our government, even by non-violent means, has been censored out of the debate.
01:44:00.000 Not even impeachment.
01:44:02.000 Now let's stop right there.
01:44:04.000 Now again, my analogy is, when it's a fake communist revolution or a commie gun, these guys go, well we love it, it's good, but then for a citizen of America to have a gun, it's bad.
01:44:16.000 That shows the schizophrenia of these people.
01:44:21.000 And you show these phony leftists that the Carnegie and Rockefeller and Ford Foundation funded communists.
01:44:26.000 You show them that it was funded as a way to get people back into serfdom, to be a boogeyman so they could turn the West into a police state and have the communists go grab and murder resources all over the world and hand it over to the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation with oil companies in Russia 50 years ago.
01:44:43.000 Armand Hammer, the communist leader also.
01:44:46.000 It's all a scam, and you show them the documents, and they don't want to see it, Charles!
01:44:51.000 No, they don't.
01:44:52.000 They really don't, because it's a matter of...
01:44:56.000 Not for profit.
01:44:56.000 These are NGOs, and so they've all got budgets, and they've got careers, and they like to hang out with Michael Moore and Sean Penn, and they like to go on the speaking circuit, and they like to act as if they are somehow holier than, you know, all of us common working people.
01:45:11.000 And they don't want to give that up.
01:45:13.000 I mean, if you want to talk about the greatest drug that's plaguing our culture, it's the idea of celebrity and status.
01:45:19.000 You got Michael Moore, who, you know, look what he did in bowling for Columbine.
01:45:23.000 You know, the right to bear arms was suddenly boiled down to a couple absolute kooks and a few, you know, fringe militia groups that, you know, perhaps had, you know... Well, here's the good news, Charles.
01:45:36.000 Charles, here's the good news.
01:45:40.000 Everybody I've talked to who ten years ago would come to one of our gun rallies and scream and yell at us, they're now walking up apologizing, saying, I just bought a semi-automatic AK-47.
01:45:51.000 And I know that communism's controlled, and I know the left is controlled, and I know that the New World Order controls it, and I'm for true freedom.
01:45:58.000 And I see conservatives waking up that the Republicans are a fraud and that it's all command and control.
01:46:04.000 So, just like newspaper circulation is down 65% and TV is down 35-45% or 37-45% people are leaving, I see people basically know this phony left is phony.
01:46:18.000 That's why folks aren't showing up at their rallies anymore because they know it's a fraud.
01:46:22.000 So what I'm telling you is, I think That the deprogramming has begun and we have a real spontaneous populist movement that scares the New World Order to death!
01:46:34.000 I agree with you Alex.
01:46:35.000 And the funny thing about it is that it took a little bit longer to get off the ground than we all thought.
01:46:40.000 You know, there's people like Mike Rupert who, you know, very, very soon after the election went very public in saying that, you know, 9-11 is dead, anti-war is dead.
01:46:50.000 You had your chance and you blew it.
01:46:52.000 The only chance we had was to remove Bush from office.
01:46:55.000 And Moore told us Bush was legitimate on the late show, or tonight's show, with a pumpkin head.
01:47:03.000 What's his name?
01:47:04.000 Jay Leno.
01:47:05.000 So wow, the same rhetoric.
01:47:07.000 Very interesting.
01:47:07.000 Yeah, I mean, first of all, we could spend another hour talking about how they not only stole the 2000 election, but also stole the 2004 election.
01:47:15.000 You can't just steal 04 at the voting box, you've got to have a rigged candidate who'll take the dive.
01:47:20.000 You take a rigged candidate, and then you've got, you know, Ken Blackwell, who is the Katherine Harris, you know, of 2004.
01:47:26.000 Yeah, there's so much evidence it's ridiculous.
01:47:28.000 John Perry won the election, and we're not saying that's even good, because he was staged to begin with.
01:47:33.000 Right.
01:47:33.000 I mean, that was the fastest concession speech I had ever seen in my life.
01:47:37.000 Before the votes were even counted, he was bowing out, and he didn't even show up in public again for another five weeks.
01:47:44.000 And somehow you want to tell me that this was the guy who really wanted to be president?
01:47:48.000 I think when you talk about guys like Michael Moore, though, really, Alex, the issue is, is that how can a guy who is worth, you know, $200 million How can people who, you know, are barely surviving on $30,000 a year identify him as in the same category?
01:48:04.000 Well, he's flying around on a Disney jet!
01:48:07.000 And then Disney puts on that act like they might not distribute it to, you know, hype it up.
01:48:11.000 Yeah, well, if you want my personal opinion on all that, it was just merely media stunts to get people to hype it up.
01:48:18.000 Well, at the end of the film he goes, we need more police, we need more funding.
01:48:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:23.000 It's really scary.
01:48:24.000 And, you know, there are people out there that want to claim that the police state isn't happening.
01:48:29.000 And, you know, I think really it's because people have this concept in their minds of what it's supposed to look like and what it's supposed to sound like.
01:48:36.000 And they don't understand that, you know, it's very surreptitious.
01:48:39.000 You know, they don't have to be out there wearing, you know, identical uniforms with swastikas on their shoulder to show that there's police state.
01:48:45.000 Here in Chicago, the bulk of the police do not wear uniform.
01:48:49.000 They're federally funded tactical squad guys.
01:48:52.000 And that is pure police state.
01:48:54.000 Not wearing uniform is the worst.
01:48:56.000 Absolutely.
01:48:56.000 And they are there and they will pull up on you and stop you and take you in without even a blink.
01:49:02.000 Well, millions of cameras, millions of microphones, whole towns, face scanning, transponders will be on all the cars, every major road a toll road, giant presses being built everywhere.
01:49:12.000 And it's quiet.
01:49:14.000 It's quiet.
01:49:15.000 It's surreptitious and it's kind of creeping up on us.
01:49:20.000 If you toss a frog into a pot of water and slowly bring it to a boil, it's not going to realize that it's frying.
01:49:26.000 That's what we've got going on here.
01:49:29.000 I'll tell you what, stay there.
01:49:30.000 Well, I'll tell you why the gun grabbers are in trouble.
01:49:33.000 Is because the so-called left is being deprogrammed, but then we can count on George Bush and Alberto Gonzales and Governor Pataki and Governor Schwarzenegger.
01:49:41.000 It's all the Republicans coming out for our guns, and the controlled right media won't tell you the conservatives that.
01:49:47.000 Just like the controlled left media won't tell you anything leftist.
01:49:50.000 We'll be right back.
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01:53:05.000 I should have asked you this during the break, but Charles Shaw from New Topia Magazine, are you willing to stay with us into the next hour?
01:53:13.000 Sure!
01:53:15.000 All right, let's do it.
01:53:17.000 Let's go to some callers here.
01:53:20.000 Let's go ahead and talk to Steve in Ohio first.
01:53:23.000 Steve, go ahead.
01:53:24.000 How are you doing, Alex?
01:53:25.000 Good, thanks for holding.
01:53:26.000 All right, no problem.
01:53:27.000 First of all, I think it's a great show that you have about this left-pony paradigm.
01:53:32.000 I have a question.
01:53:33.000 We tend to make fun of the media because of the fact that there's so much censorship involved in that, and I think that one of the things we need to do in the alternative media is we've got to come together And put these grievances behind us.
01:53:47.000 I agree.
01:53:47.000 Thank you for the call, Steve.
01:53:49.000 Really appreciate that.
01:53:51.000 But let's explain what this means.
01:53:53.000 Let's explain what censorship means, specifically.
01:53:58.000 If I run a website, say, Infowars.com, and I see articles we've posted that I think do not cover the views that I have and the mission that I have, then I have a choice whether I want to carry that or not.
01:54:15.000 Now, I also have my own choice.
01:54:20.000 Let's say I do want to have an Ann Coulter on, then I'm going to disagree with her, but I'm going to decide what I'm going to do.
01:54:26.000 Now, a real example of censorship, for those that get confused with the term, for people that don't understand this, is Italian website banned over Nazi Pope pictures.
01:54:40.000 Now, this is their website, this is Indymedia, with its servers based in Brazil.
01:54:46.000 Nothing to do with Italy, where they have fascistic Nazi mind-control laws, which you all thought were okay if somebody said, you know, six million Jews didn't die.
01:54:57.000 Well, they shouldn't be able to say that, but see, now it's, don't show Ratzinger in a Nazi uniform, which he did indeed wear!
01:55:04.000 Okay, so see now, that's censorship to go to someone's website and to tell them, take your website down.
01:55:11.000 Censorship is, if I go up to you with your sandwich board, And tell you you can't stand on the street corner what Bush is doing, arresting anti-war demonstrators when 500 pro-bushers are allowed to stand on the same sidewalk.
01:55:24.000 That is censorship.
01:55:26.000 Censorship is not saying, Alex, because you won't put pornos on your website, you're censoring.
01:55:33.000 Would you like to comment on censorship, Charles?
01:55:36.000 Absolutely.
01:55:37.000 You know, the other thing that I think is even more insidious than that, Alex, is this idea of self And covert censorship.
01:55:47.000 One of the best examples of this is when Amy Goodman had been bugged and bugged and bugged for a year to try to put David Ray Griffin on her show to talk about the new Pearl Harbor.
01:55:58.000 And at the last second, she ends up bringing in Chip Berlay.
01:56:02.000 Chip Berlay doesn't know anything about 9-11 research.
01:56:05.000 He's made his career as a, quote, anti-conspiracist.
01:56:09.000 And you come to find out that the Ford Foundation has been giving a lot of money to Democracy Now!, and specifically gave them a grant in early 2002 to continue reporting on 9-11, the aftermath of 9-11.
01:56:25.000 Now, there's a payoff right there, but let's expand.
01:56:29.000 David Ray Griffin had him on yesterday, I think his books are great.
01:56:31.000 I've read one, got the other.
01:56:34.000 He's got all these CFR people riding us forward that he's involved with and I predicted three years ago that the Loveless would give us a phony left movement.
01:56:42.000 To, like, go, oh, a liberal world government is the answer to the evil right-wing government, when it's all run by the same people, and that's exactly what Griffin was saying yesterday!
01:56:51.000 Right.
01:56:51.000 I just, you know, I think that any time there's an opportunity to try to co-opt a movement, or to take it over, or to fill it with disinformation, it's gonna be done.
01:57:00.000 These folks have a tremendous amount of access, a tremendous amount of power, and regardless, you know, they are going to try to stop it.
01:57:08.000 You know, like, with the Ford Foundation, they don't have to come to Amy Goodman and say, all right, listen, now you cannot report on any of this stuff.
01:57:15.000 What they'll just say is, here, make sure you do something about the aftermath of 9-11, and then they'll dangle enough money there that they know how hard it is to keep that grant funding year after year after year.
01:57:25.000 And then they get a call going, here, you're doing a show on this.
01:57:28.000 We got a guest for you.
01:57:30.000 Would you like to talk to us?
01:57:33.000 We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, and we'll talk to Roger and Manuel and many, many others on the other side.