Daniel Estelund tells Alex about his trip to the Bilderberg summit in 2005 and what he saw and heard. He also talks about the CIA, MI6, KGB, and other intelligence agencies that were there.
00:00:08.000The annual secret meeting of the Bilderberg Group determines many of the headlines and news developments you will read about it in coming months.
00:00:16.000But the establishment media completely blacked it out.
00:00:20.000With the exception of a half-dozen high-ranking members of the press who were sworn to secrecy.
00:00:25.000Few have ever heard of the exclusive and secretive group called the Bilderberg Group.
00:00:31.000Of course, this came out a few days ago.
00:00:33.000He might have missed the CNN piece where they said, oh yeah, they're for world government.
00:00:38.000But they care about us, and they do control things, but that's alright.
00:00:42.000Mainstream news organizations boastful about their no-holds-barred investigative exploits have been strangely reluctant to lift the blackout curtain hiding a major event, the Bilderberg Group's secret annual meeting with the world's most powerful financiers, industrialists, and political figures.
00:01:02.0002005 was a bad year for Bilderberg and its future looks gloomy.
00:01:07.000Herculean efforts to keep their meetings secret in Germany failed miserably.
00:01:12.000Bilderberg's grief is the free world's glory and hope for future restraining the power grabbers in the dawn of the new millennium.
00:01:41.000But I felt I'd be safer here and I'd probably live longer living in Madrid than in Toronto.
00:01:47.000Well, it's good to have you on with us.
00:01:49.000Tell us a little bit about yourself and then let's get into what you witnessed.
00:01:52.000You pierced the veil, unlike some of the media that was there, of what was going on this year and who was there and some of the stuff that came out of it.
00:02:00.000I've been doing this for 13 years, and I've been covering the Bill of Burgers with a friend of yours by the name of Jim Tucker from the American Free Press.
00:02:11.000Russian expatriates were kicked out of the Soviet Union in 1980.
00:02:14.000My father was a dissident who fought for freedom of speech, was jailed, tortured by the KGB, suffered two clinical deaths.
00:02:21.000When these people got tired of us, they threw us out.
00:02:24.000We moved to Canada, and 12 years ago I came to Spain.
00:02:30.000My grandfather was a colonel in the KGB and the counterintelligence in the 1950s, so I am privileged somewhat to get a lot of information from Secret Service, which are our best sources of information.
00:02:42.000Not only the KGB people, but the MI6 people, the CIA, because Most of the people who work for the Secretariat, as you probably know, are patriots, and they love their country, and they're doing it for the good of the nation.
00:02:53.000And they're the first ones absolutely terrified of the plans of the Bilderbergers.
00:02:58.000Well, Jim Tucker's talked about this over and over again.
00:03:02.000You've got royalty, the heads of the most powerful corporations, 150 of them, usually 120 members and about 20, 30 guests, meeting there.
00:03:11.000And Jim talks about how when he gets there a few days before they kick him out of the resort, he'll talk to employees and they won't help him.
00:03:16.000But when they see how vicious and evil these people are, how you can't look them in the eyes, when they hear about their evil plans, they always give him the scoop.
00:03:24.000And I know you've had the same thing happen.
00:03:26.000So tell us what's happened in the last 13 years and even some of the Secret Service.
00:03:31.000And you've got a photo here of the extremely heavy protection of the most powerful men and women in the world.
00:03:39.000I mean, these people are getting very, very serious.
00:03:40.000CIA, Mossad, German Special Forces, and Secret Police.
00:03:43.000Tell us about your 13 years of experience, and what happened this year. - Well, I want to tell you a little bit about this year, because I think pound for pound, this year's conference was the strongest in history.
00:03:53.000I mean, these people are getting very, very serious.
00:03:54.000We'll get to the talking point of the conference in a minute.
00:03:57.000But again, some of the best sources that I have had over the years, the Special Forces, the CIA, the KGB, the MI6, the Mossad people, They're the closest ones to the levers of power that these people control.
00:04:12.000And ones that they know that they can trust you.
00:04:14.000They want to pass on the information as quickly and as soon as they possibly can.
00:04:18.000And we're getting some very, very good intelligence.
00:04:20.000And over the last 13 years, Most of the things that we've gotten that have come through one of the things that in 1996 these people have tried to assassinate me because Myself and a couple of other people we Uncovered their plan to destroy Canada as a nation and join Canada and the United States into one greater North America through this one thing called the Grand Canal water project and by the way now Reuters last week admitted Pan American Union and Oh, exactly.
00:05:02.000Etienne D'Avignon, who is the Honorary Chairman of Bilderberger, who is the Vice-Chairman of Swiss Traktabel, one of the strongest companies in Europe.
00:05:09.000This man owns most of the banks and electrical companies in In Belgium, Martin Taylor, the international advisor for Goldman Sachs, was there.
00:05:17.000The chairman of the Deutsche Bank, Joseph Ackermann, was there.
00:05:21.000Most of the European commissioners were there.
00:05:25.000Most of the former and present prime ministers were there as well this year.
00:05:29.000Franco Bernabe, who is the usual, who is the vice chairman of Rothschild Europe.
00:06:06.000There was another character, a very interesting man by the name of David Byrne, who is the World Health Organization's Special Envoy on Global Communicable Diseases.
00:06:16.000Oh yeah, that's going to be their big plan for control.
00:06:20.000I'm presently getting some very interesting information from the sources working for the Bildenbergers and for the CIA people, and I'll have the results in the next couple of weeks.
00:06:32.000But I can tell you, it does not smell very, very good.
00:07:10.000the assistant to the president for economic policy by the way the sales to dictatorships and oligarchies are at record levels by the u_s_ right now of course i mean they have they need to do this they need the money they need to destabilize nations uh... word in jordan was there uh... henry kissinger uh...
00:07:27.000bernard kushner who would be a director and the founder of borders without doctors without borders henry kravitz represented cold work rather than robert And the very interesting thing about these people, as I live in Spain, one of the top telecommunications companies here is called AUNA.
00:07:42.000And at the conference we got some very, very good information that the KKR, the Colbert, Kravitz, and Roberts, So they're all there deciding who's going to get all the government contracts.
00:08:01.000But let's go back to the bio weapons and how they're scurrying around, gearing up for that as a pretext for martial law.
00:08:17.000I'm getting a lot of information from the meeting.
00:08:19.000I mean, this is something unprecedented this year.
00:08:21.000We have never had so much intelligence from our sources.
00:08:24.000See, it rained from the moment we got there.
00:08:26.000I'm talking about a torrential downpour for the five days that I was there.
00:08:29.000It rained and continued raining from six o'clock in the morning until midnight, at least at the time I went to bed.
00:08:35.000and uh... one of the things about weapons uh...
00:08:38.000more than biological weapons nuclear weapons and again being your con agenda in iran is on the agenda and it all goes back which brings to mind actually the falklands war now uh...
00:08:50.000can i talk a little bit about that Yes, sir, go ahead.
00:08:55.000Well, one of the things about the Falcons War, it was an operation planned by the Rockefeller-controlled Aspen Institute of Colorado, and it had nothing to do about the British forces against the Argentine forces.
00:09:11.000And the whole thing about Iran is these people want to present Iran from getting an abundant nuclear energy, because this is nuclear energy generating electricity in cheap and abundant supplies.
00:09:22.000It would allow countries such as Iran and other third world countries to become independent of United States foreign aid, which keeps them in servitude.
00:09:25.000to become independent of the United States foreign aid, which keeps them in servitude.
00:09:30.000And this way they can begin to assert their sovereignty.
00:09:31.000And this way they can begin to assert their sovereignty.
00:09:33.000And again, less foreign aid means less control of a country's natural resources by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and greater freedom and independence for the people of the nation.
00:09:33.000And again, less foreign aid means less control over countries' natural resources by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and greater freedom and independence for the people of the nation.
00:09:43.000And it's the idea that these people developing their own cheap source of energy and taking charge of their destiny is revolting to the Bildenburgers and revolting to people like Henry Kissinger, who they're talking about this in the corridors, not in the meeting itself because it wasn't on the agenda, but again, lunch break, not in the meeting itself because it wasn't on the agenda, but again, lunch break, coffee break, night, dinner time conversations, and the neocons agenda in
00:10:09.000But again, it was very interesting that Kissinger was talking about the Falklands war while these people were also talking about the upcoming conflict in Iran.
00:10:44.000It was being discussed, not only the meeting itself, but it was being discussed in smaller groups.
00:10:48.000Again, these people have their meetings and they break into smaller groups and they have their smaller group discussions and then they pass on the agenda to the necessary people who then pass it on to local and national governments and European communities, etc.
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00:13:59.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:14:14.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:14:19.000We're talking to award-winning investigative journalist Daniel Estillan.
00:14:25.000And for 13 years he's been covering the Bilderberg Group.
00:14:28.000I want to keep him a little bit into the next hour, so we've got to move quickly to cover all of this, then to get to some other news and play a few audio clips that are coming up the next hour that, believe me, you don't want to miss.
00:14:40.000I mean, there's no doubt, for those that don't know, That Jim Tucker is able to get their agenda and then say what's going to happen in the next year, and then that gets implemented.
00:14:49.000I mean, what they want is what they get, and five years ago it was denied that it even existed.
00:14:54.000Now it's starting to pop up in our news, but they're telling us, yes, they want world government, but world government's good.
00:15:01.000Daniel, what other intel did you get from inside of this conference?
00:15:05.000Well, Sal, I mean, this was one of the most terrifying conferences, I think, in history, at least the 13 years that I've been covering.
00:15:12.000It's one of the Biggest concern that these people have is needless to say energy and you can expect over the next couple of years the price of oil to go up to about $120 to $150 a barrel.
00:15:23.000That's what Tucker said that Kissinger said.
00:15:38.000Now, according to my sources within the group, who are actually members of the Bildenbergers, these people estimated the extractable world's oil supply to be at a maximum of 35 years under current economic development and population.
00:15:50.000However, one of the representatives of an oil cartel at the conference remarked that if we take into consideration both the population explosion And the economic growth and demand for oil in such countries as China and India, we're looking at enough oil to last for about 20 years.
00:16:06.000Now again, they're engineering that, though, to claim there's no oil, and at the same time, as you said, not letting countries develop nuclear energy to have that monopoly.
00:16:16.000I mean, again, this is all part of the globalist plan for the New World Order, because slavery is free, and freedom costs a lot of money, and it's not free.
00:16:27.000One of the things that they did talk about, at least mention in passing, was one of the ways, what these people need to do is, as there's not enough oil supply, they need to begin eliminating world population.
00:16:39.000And that brings to mind a 1974 report commissioned by Nixon in the last couple of months of his Yeah, written by Kissinger, where they talk about ordering the third world to sterilize half their women or no IMF or World Bank money.
00:16:51.000Exactly, on page 9 of that report, I think the second or third last paragraph of the page, they're talking about eliminating 3 billion people in the world and 100 million Americans before the end of 2050.
00:17:05.000Now, we've got that on Infowars.com, official CIA commission report with the headline written by, the synopsis written by the demon, the boar, his real codename is.
00:17:17.000But going back here, I mean, you just mentioned population control.
00:17:21.000Your sources are saying this came up again.
00:17:26.000Now, this isn't the first time it has come up, but it has not come up so resoundingly and mentioned by so many people at one time during any one conference.
00:17:35.000And you're saying at the same time, though, that they had the WHO, the head exterminator, was there?
00:17:47.000I'm going to get more information on these people over the next couple of weeks.
00:17:50.000But what specifically, intel-wise, did you get on population control?
00:17:55.000I didn't get enough information on population control to be able to tell you.
00:17:59.000I prefer to get enough leads and then to be able to put it all together.
00:18:03.000One interesting thing about the oil depletion is I recently attended a discussion forum hosted by Aspen Institute in Berlin and there a new conservative by the name of Gary Schmidt was laboring the looming showdown with the Chinese Necessitating, obviously, a NATO participation.
00:18:21.000Now, Aspen, of course, belongs to the same influence here as the Bildenbergers and the trilateral companies.
00:18:25.000Yeah, well, they're riding the horse of peak oil.
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00:20:22.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
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00:21:27.000Well, first of all, just to finish up on the stuff on the energy.
00:21:30.000Conclusion, based on what these people were saying, we can expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over the next couple of years as these people try to safeguard the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's hands in a recession or worse, a depression.
00:21:44.000But again, that's their scam, their excuse to consolidate the wealth.
00:22:27.000But one of the funny things about the rise of the NGOs, a development ex-president of the United States, Bill Clinton, called one of the most Remarkable things that have happened since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
00:22:39.000Now, ironically, Clinton's statement was picked up by the Wall Street Journal one day after the beginning of the Berlin Wall Conference.
00:22:46.000Wall Street Journal is, of course, a paper that was represented at their meetings by people such as Robert Bartley, who is the Vice President, or Paul Gigott, who is the editorial page editor.
00:22:55.000Now these people have been, I've written this over five years ago, that the Billburgers have been debating to have, for the first time, unelected, self-appointed environmental activists be given a position of governmental authority on governing board of the agency which controls the use of atmosphere, outer space, the oceans, and... And then they can claim it's the people because it's some private group that they appointed, and the environmentalists are going to be used to set up Neo-Surfdom.
00:23:22.000Needless to say, the environmental movement, of course, is a Rockefeller scam, because to have the environmental movement, you need a lot of money, and only people such as Rockefeller could afford it.
00:23:31.000Now, according to the sources I have within the Bildenbergers, the status of the NGOs will be elevated even further in the future, and that is in the near future.
00:23:39.000The NGO activity would include agitation at the local level.
00:23:43.000They also talked about, at the conference, lobbying at the national level, producing studies to justify global taxation.
00:23:50.000That's something that Jim Tucker talked a lot about over the last couple of years through the U.N.
00:23:55.000organization, such as the Global Plan, which is one of the Bildenberg's pet projects for over a decade.
00:24:00.000Now, I've talked about this about five years ago.
00:24:02.000Now, the strategy is to advance the global governance agenda.
00:24:06.000It would include programs to discredit individuals such as myself, such as yourself, such as Jim Tucker and organizations... So they openly talked about programs!
00:24:15.000They openly talked about the NGOs, exactly.
00:24:17.000And I think this is the first time, as far back as I can remember, where they actually openly talked about it at the conference.
00:24:23.000And so NGO folks is like taking a rent-a-mob and then giving it government power and claiming it represents the people.
00:24:31.000Now, the United Nations Environment Program, along with all the environmental treaties under its jurisdiction, would ultimately be governed by, from what I understand, a special body of environmental activists chosen, now look at this, only from accredited NGOs appointed by delegates to the General Assembly of the United Nations, who are themselves appointed by the President
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00:28:12.000Daniel Estelin is an award-winning investigative journalist who has been researching the Bilderberg Group for over 13 years.
00:28:19.000Estelin was one of only two journalists in the world who witnessed and reported from beyond the heavily guarded perimeter a super-secret meeting at the German Rockets, Egern, Munich, Bavaria and Germany on May 5th and 8th.
00:28:37.000And what he got out of it was that they're hammer and tongs accelerating their program.
00:28:42.000They're frantic, population controlled by the billions.
00:28:51.000having a World Health Organization there, getting into how they're going to restrict our security, access to energy, to bring control, to consolidate power.
00:29:00.000You were running over this and a lot of the same stuff that Jim got, but even more.
00:29:07.000One of the things about the NGOs, what these people are putting together, in a nutshell, would provide a direct route from the local on the ground, as they call it, NGO affiliates, of national, international NGOs, to the highest levels of global governance.
00:29:24.000The Greater Yellowstone Coalition, which is a group of affiliated NGOs, Not too long ago, petitioned the World Heritage Committee of UNESCO asking for intervention in the plans of a private company to mine gold on private land near Yellowstone Park in the United States.
00:29:39.000Now, the UNESCO Committee did intervene on behalf of these people and immediately listed Yellowstone as a World Heritage Site in danger.
00:29:47.000Now, under the terms of the World Heritage Convention, the United States is required to protect the park even beyond the borders of the park and onto the private lands That's it.
00:29:56.000And then they link those up with other preserves.
00:30:19.000Now, one of the things that I got from the conference, we have not yet identified the speaker, but according to somebody at the conference, and now if this thing is implemented, it will bring all the people of the world into a global neighborhood managed by a worldwide bureaucracy under the direct authority of a minute handful of appointed individuals it will bring all the people of the world into a global neighborhood managed by a worldwide bureaucracy under the direct authority of a minute handful of appointed individuals and policed by thousands of individuals
00:30:51.000Something else that they talked about, something that has been off the radar screens of American newspapers, is the Indonesia-Malaysia standoff.
00:31:00.000It was very briefly mentioned, not at the conference itself, but one of the coffee breaks.
00:31:04.000Now, it's a military and a political confrontation between these two nations.
00:31:08.000In the petroleum-rich Sulawesi Sea, which both of these nations claim as their territorial rights, was, again, the topic of a much animated discussion among several American and European Bilderbergers during the afternoon cocktail.
00:31:22.000Now, an American Bilderberg, according to our sources, waving his cigar, suggested using the United Nations to further a peace policy in the region, quote-unquote.
00:31:32.000In fact, the Bilderbergers at the lounge table next to him all agreed that such a conflict might well give them an excuse to garrison the disputed area with the United Nations peacekeepers as a result.
00:31:42.000And then we see articles in the New York Times a week after this, we got this from Tucker, too, that, oh, the UN's got to get more aggressive about enforcing peace and start invading countries.
00:31:55.000Well, one of the things about invading nations, again, it wasn't mentioned per se, but it was one of the topics during coffee conversations, the necessity in the future to invade the United States, or at least take on the United States patriots who are trying to defend the nation against the new world order.
00:32:11.000From your sources, and again folks, I've talked to Tucker, I've talked to others, the source we've got is a great reporter, works with Tucker, Tucker's got a sterling record on these forecasts, You're saying American patriots that are fighting this was brought up at Bilderberg?
00:32:29.000Specifically, repeat what you said and give us more details.
00:32:32.000What I said was that these people are playing around with the idea that when war comes, because again, I have never seen such aggression as at this year's conference against me, against Jim.
00:32:44.000I mean, these people, they follow me around.
00:32:46.000I live in Madrid, so I flew from Madrid to Italy, and from Italy I caught a connecting flight to Berlin.
00:33:09.000I've had my photographs for the last 13 years.
00:33:12.000They told me that probably I would not be able to get into Germany because the Schengen Treaty doesn't apply to me because I'm not a European citizen or I'm a Canadian citizen.
00:33:21.000Before I got on the plane, I called a few friends of mine, Italian journalists, who made enough noise that the German foreign ministry had to come out and publicly say that they had no idea who I was or why I was coming to Germany, but needless to say, they were not going to arrest me.
00:33:35.000But I want to go back though, because you said that sources said that they are wondering how to deal with quote, American patriots that aren't going along with this agenda.
00:33:46.000Well, the idea, again, is people are getting very, very violent, and they're getting very aggressive, and they're getting very serious.
00:33:52.000Their plans, they're not going as fast as they would have liked to.
00:33:55.000And what, one of the things, again, it was not a discussion, one of the key topics of the Bilderberg Conference, but it was an afternoon chat.
00:34:02.000You're talking about spies, people serving coffee, what they hear in the little sidebars.
00:34:07.000Well, actually, we got it from the intelligence people, so it's, I tend to believe them, first of all.
00:34:12.000Okay, specifically, tell us what you got from those guards.
00:34:16.000What we got from these people is that in the future there will definitely be a conflict between the New World Order, the Bilderbergers, and the American Patriot Movement.
00:34:24.000And as the United States forces, be it the Army, the Marines, the Reserves, the National Guard, most likely will not fire on their own citizens.
00:34:33.000They do need to bring in the United Nations to fight against the American patriots and to take over the country.
00:34:46.000And regardless, even of that several sources, even other security people are trying to scare us, it shows that they are talking about us and they're being given these orders to say this.
00:34:56.000So either way, it's a confirmed report.
00:34:58.000These people are very, very serious and they're getting very, very angry.
00:35:01.000I've never seen such pressing... Well, that's because their program... Listen, that's because their program is falling apart.
00:35:09.000Did you know that in the last month the attacks on myself from a hundred quarters and major magazines and newspapers is just unbelievable?
00:35:17.000I mean, we can really see this happening.
00:35:19.000I want to just take a second out and tell you, Alex, I think you have one of the best programs in America and I am a faithful listener and a devout fan of everything that you do.
00:35:39.000Again, empowering the United Nations until it becomes a DMU as well as a de facto world government, and advancing this goal by creating a direct United Nations tax.
00:35:49.000They're openly calling for a world tax right now!
00:35:55.000press and his reports on the bill of burgers and i think he must have talked to you about it as well on your show they're only calling for a world tax right now they are exactly but you say they're getting very upset that's what i'm saying i think their whole programs in trouble well it is in trouble I think, I'm not exactly sure because I don't live in the United States, but I think they're way behind schedule and they're getting angry.
00:36:23.000And I'm not exactly sure if it has anything to do with Rockefeller getting very, very old and if there's anyone behind him who's ready to take over the whole movement.
00:36:34.000But for whatever reason, these people are getting very angry, they're getting vicious.
00:36:37.000Well, that's what Jim has said, is that they're getting old and they want to see their plan come to fruition.
00:36:43.000He will definitely not be in Rockefeller's lifetime.
00:36:45.000But I have never seen such anger directed at us in the 13 years that I've been covering this and talking to Jim in the 30 years that he's been doing this.
00:36:55.000Well, that's because it's all over the news now.
00:37:05.000Well, they tried to assassinate me in 1996 when we broke the story about them trying to take over Canada and destroy the nation.
00:37:14.000And I almost walked into an elevator, but I didn't have a floor.
00:37:18.000In one of the skyscrapers in Toronto, one of the intelligent buildings as they call them, and that moment one of the guards was called off and somebody took over the levers of control and actually pulled the elevator up with the floor.
00:37:41.000with me and the police officer said to me that i was lucky to be alive because he said blind people would never walk into an elevator without first checking to make sure that the floor is there but us who have good eyesight we just take it for granted that it's there which is why so many people fall through a shaft well exactly all the time i get off on the wrong floor when i'm in a big building the door just opens you just go in or the door yeah exactly well sir uh
00:38:07.000people can go to onlinejournal.com and read your amazing report and see your photographs and uh they can link through to Just search your name and people can see past reports you've done for major publications.
00:38:19.000Daniel, any other ways for folks to read your fine work?
00:38:24.000Actually, I'm working on a book right now on the Bilderbergers, which will come out in Spain in September, and we have several offers from Portugal, from Germany, and I'll be looking at the United States publishers as well to get it out.
00:38:42.000Sure, I don't want to wait until September.
00:38:43.000I want to get you back on in a couple of weeks, as you codify more of your reports and document them, and then I want to have you back on in September, okay?