On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by Pastor Pete Pike and Jack McClam to discuss the new hate crimes bill that the federal government is trying to pass. They also talk about a new section of a book written by a retired police chief about how the system works, and who is behind it. And Alex talks about his upcoming debate tonight on Coast to Coast with George Norrie.
00:00:49.000We'll be live for the next three hours.
00:00:51.000We have Pastor Pike coming on in the next hour to analyze the draconian federal hate crimes bill that they've given a new name, Local Law Enforcement Assistance.
00:01:06.000And you've seen what they've tried to do in Philadelphia.
00:01:35.000The Sheriff of Los Angeles was in the LA Weekly newspaper two weeks ago, saying that if you criticize the open border, you are an anti-immigration group.
00:01:47.000They are going to come and arrest you and register you basically as a sex offender for your political views.
00:01:56.000And you might bump your head on the way to the police station.
00:02:10.000They're supporting that legislation in California.
00:02:12.000So they've had trouble at the federal level.
00:02:14.000So all over the country they're trying to pass at the state level.
00:02:17.000And now they have a new mega-massive bill coming in at the federal level as well.
00:02:22.000Then in the third hour, we're going to be joined by Jack McClam.
00:02:27.000Police and Military Against the New World Order.
00:02:30.000I talk about an amazing article I heard him covering yesterday.
00:02:35.000Just a section out of a book written by a big city police chief who's retired about how corrupt it is, how the scam works, how the fraud operates.
00:02:59.000Then I've got to do research and prepare for my debate tonight on Coast to Coast AM.
00:03:05.000It'll go on until 4 or 5 in the morning.
00:03:08.000Sometimes George Norrie extends the show out an hour during a debate or roundtable.
00:03:13.000In fact, I think the first time in show history they ever did that.
00:03:16.000I was on last year with them when they did that.
00:03:18.000And I'll be showing my film, Martial Law, 9-1-1 Rise of the Police State, at the Alamo Draft House South Lamar tonight.
00:03:27.000And giving a speech at the beginning and taking a question and answer after.
00:03:30.000So I'm going to have one of those enjoyable 22 hour days if I go to sleep at 5 in the morning tomorrow.
00:03:41.000But I love it and wouldn't have it any other way.
00:03:44.000It is exciting to be so in the thick of the fight against the new world odor that literally I don't have enough time in the day to do it all.
00:03:56.000But we will take your calls early in this hour at 1-800-259-9231 and the website's freshly updated for you InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.net, and PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:04:15.000Now InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, both my webmasters there, Ryan Slickheisen and Paul Watson, Have done an amazing job on both the sites.
00:04:25.000Paul Watson has created whole new 9-11 categories and sections for the debate this evening.
00:04:37.000So, definitely want to check out the sites today.
00:04:42.000And they'll be going back to their regular news format in about 24 hours, but for now, We have reformed ourselves purely into instruments to expose 9-11, which is already our primary function.
00:05:02.000Hey folks, Alex Jones here, announcing the release of my most comprehensive documentary exposing the New World Order's orchestration of the September 11th attacks yet.
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00:05:37.000It is absolutely vital that everyone see the masters of terror.
00:05:39.000Only by exposing the perpetrators of September 11th can we stop them from carrying out the next wave of attacks and destroying our Constitutional Republic.
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00:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:08.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:12.000All right, 8 minutes, 25 seconds into this first hour of this live Thursday 25 seconds into this first hour of this live Thursday transmission, second segment.
00:08:33.000I'm Alex Jones, your host, and we are here live Monday through Friday from 11 to 2 Central Standard Time, back from 9 to midnight Central Standard Time with a retransmission from 1am until 6am Central Standard Time.
00:08:49.000No matter what time zone you're in, you can always basically catch the broadcast.
00:08:55.000Alright, there is just so much to cover.
00:09:00.000I mentioned in the first segment, but I might as well say it again.
00:09:02.000We got Pastor Pike coming on, an expert on hate crime laws.
00:09:08.000The globalists are losing the fight for the InfoWars, so if you talk about dignity and love and anti-racism, and if you're anti-Schwarzenegger, Or if you're anti-gun control, you will be called a Nazi!
00:09:56.000Just a great mind and just a decent fella.
00:09:59.000And he's reached tens of millions of police and military in the last quarter century in his fight against the globalists.
00:10:08.000And we're just so blessed to have people like Jack McClam out there.
00:10:12.000So, Jack McClam is coming up in the third hour, despite the fact that he's finishing his monthly newsletter and about to leave town to go have more cancer work, any cancer work done on his wife, who's had breast cancer, but looks like things are going well there, thanks to all your prayers.
00:10:55.000I've talked in the last month to two separate individuals that are on draft boards.
00:11:00.000I mean, I've been sent the documents and then put them in the shredder because they can get in a lot of trouble for leaking that type of stuff.
00:11:09.000But they tell them, you're not allowed to tell anybody this.
00:11:55.000Though they could change something up on us rather quickly.
00:11:59.000But they told him to keep your mouth shut because people will panic over this.
00:12:02.000And it did come out that they did set up the draft boards again, but they're not allowed to talk to the press or the people.
00:12:09.000And everything the government does now is supposedly secret.
00:12:12.000You know, I mean, I see text dot documents, Department of Transportation here in Texas, where we've got plenty of money, excess billions and billions and excess, you know, six and a half billion over expenditures, but we can't let the people know that.
00:12:27.000This is marked, your eyes only, confidential.
00:12:31.000Anyone releasing this will be fired, and it comes out in the newspaper.
00:12:36.000We've got plenty of money, but we want the toll roads they're going to raise.
00:12:41.000Hundreds of millions over the next 20 years.
00:12:46.000And I'll be in a store talking about the toll roads, and people will go, well, they need money somewhere.
00:12:52.000You know, the one idiot out of a hundred that might be for it.
00:13:45.000But that's not going to stop them from telling you there's no money.
00:13:49.000Why, gas revenues, fuel revenues have gone down.
00:13:53.000And they know you're not going to go read the revenues.
00:13:57.000I mean, it's just unbelievable how these people lie!
00:14:04.000And it came out, what, two weeks ago that Schwarzenegger, you know, in the Upscale neighborhood, he ordered, his people ordered a whole crew of about 20 people to go out there with jackhammers and bulldozers.
00:14:15.000They tore up an entire lane of a road!
00:14:20.000And then Schwarzenegger got up there and said, look at this road!
00:14:56.000You know, I went from governor, national draft debate needed out of the Associated Press Salem, Oregon, Ted Kolonsky, I'm not from Oregon, I'm sorry if I mispronounce it, broke ground Tuesday on a project to build a new state war memorial to Oregon soldiers, and said afterward that the nation needs a debate on whether to restore the military draft, and he went on to say we need one.
00:15:21.000So, What does that have to do with secret programs for the toll roads?
00:15:29.000Well, the point is, they're doing the toll roads whether you like them or not.
00:15:32.000They're doing the draft whether you like it or not.
00:15:38.000They started building the toll roads about nine years ago in Austin.
00:15:42.000And by building the toll roads, building the extensions, building the extra lanes, building in the embankments, preparing them, we found the funding mechanisms to start it.
00:16:20.000Harry Scheibel suffered severe irreversible brain damage that left the organ discolored and scarred, shriveled to have its normal size, and damaged in nearly all its regions, including the one responsible for vision, according to an autopsy report released yesterday.
00:16:37.000Although the meticulous post-mortem examination could not determine the mental state of the Florida woman who died on the 31st after a judicial and legislative battle over her right to die, it did establish the permanence of her physical condition.
00:16:51.000Alright, now let's just stop right there.
00:16:54.000I turned on the TV for literally ten minutes last night before I went down to do my own TV show.
00:17:09.000Because it's the new Michael Jackson thing.
00:17:11.000It's the new... It's the new mystery soap opera for you to cover up all the other substantive news.
00:17:18.000And then the next thing was how great Toll Roads were, and the next show was how torture's no big deal, and Gitmo's a wonderful place to be, and it's all lies.
00:17:28.000And then the next thing was Terri Schiavo.
00:17:31.000They have these guys in lab coats, you know, up there.
00:17:33.000Yes, she was completely brain damaged and couldn't see and just her brain was almost half its size and... Of course, there's all these other doctors that treated her and nurses and others that said that she was cognizant.
00:17:49.000Schiavo wouldn't let a brain scan be done or wouldn't let a brain reading be done.
00:17:54.000But after they snuck her body off and wouldn't let the family see her and then took her off and burned her body to get rid of all the evidence, months later, out comes the coroners, who again are going with the government line, defending the state.
00:18:06.000I mean, you never find more corruption than you find with coroners.
00:18:09.000This is something the globalists really focus on controlling.
00:18:13.000But I know a little bit about medical stuff, and I know that anorexics who are anorexic can lose about 25% of their brain mass.
00:18:20.000I know that people who have died out in the desert, upwards of half their brain mass is lost.
00:18:26.000You can lose upwards of 30% of your body weight.
00:19:19.000She had been starved for years, she'd been dehydrated three separate times, she'd been dehydrated for 13 and a half days, when she did succumb, Everybody knows that the organs shrink upwards of 45%.
00:19:36.000And I, sure enough, I went downstairs, went to medical journals online, typed in symptoms of anorexia.
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00:24:12.000Coming up in the next segment, we'll go to Paul and Gene and many others that are patiently holding 1-800-259-9231.
00:24:20.000We have two really important guests coming up in the second and third hour.
00:24:24.000Pastor Pike exposed the draconian hate laws that are really being foisted on us right now at the state and federal and international level.
00:24:32.000And then Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order.
00:24:37.000But some really important developments concerning peace officers and law enforcement.
00:24:41.000But back to the Terry Shivo Schindler case.
00:24:46.000Again folks, you can go online to medical journals, medical fact websites, type in the symptoms of anorexia, massive brain shrinkage.
00:25:05.000And upwards of 45% with extreme dehydration.
00:25:09.000People have been found in the desert, their brains shrink, their organs shrink, they get some water back in them, you know, the brain's like a balloon, it pumps back up with only some cellular loss.
00:25:21.000And imagine, I couldn't find the medical literature on how bad it is when you die of it.
00:25:27.000I was searching for that round of time.
00:27:39.000The doctor, man in a white coat, said it!
00:27:41.000Yeah, this has been a big political circus, and they want to make their murder of that woman look legitimate, so they got their pimps out there, their intellectual prostitutes, bearing false witness against her!
00:27:54.000I'm surprised she survived all the other dehydrations!
00:27:56.000I remember after the last one, he did allow an x-ray of her brain and said, look!
00:28:37.000And had she had fluid going to the brain out of her spinal column because they left her laying there in that room, never having any physical therapy, never sitting her up?
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00:34:36.000disgusting liberal program larry king 1 million 277 thousand aaron brown's 751 thousand paul is on 718 thousand cnn anderson cooper 618 thousand the old media is in deep trouble folks i go cnn plugs my website and You know, Alex Jones, ArnoldExposed.com.
00:37:43.000They're in million dollar studios, wearing fancy ties, they're looking at me right in the camera, the info babe's licking her lips, boy she's good looking!
00:38:02.000Folks, when my little website gets millions and millions of individual visitors each month, frankly a lot more than that, it's pretty scary.
00:38:51.000Again, there's a reason the New York Times, and the Washington Post, and CNN, and Fox TV, and the Associated Press, and Vanity Fair, and American Legion, and New American, and Front Page Magazine, and a bunch of others have attacked me in the last six months.
00:39:14.000And I'm just, believe me folks, I'm just one guy.
00:39:17.000The beautiful part about this alternative media is there are thousands of prominent people who all have their own huge audiences.
00:39:27.000And I suggest you get your own website and work diligently and put out good information and build your own audience.
00:39:53.000We've really got them on the ropes at many levels, but they've still got the police, they've still got the infrastructure, they've still got the main engines of control in many other areas, financial, you name it.
00:40:22.000You know, as a Christian, any of us who call ourselves a Christian, we should be more on fire right now than ever.
00:40:30.000And what you were just saying leads into What I was wanting to say briefly, um, this society's sick.
00:40:36.000What can go on with, uh, Trauber and the abortion thing.
00:40:40.000We have all, you know, that saying about evil only exists when good people do nothing.
00:40:45.000It's time the word sacrifice that every one of us take it up a notch and start doing more.
00:40:53.000Like you said, we got them on the run.
00:40:55.000And everything, the information that was brought out last night, what was so good is somebody on the level that Dr. Reynolds is on, waking up, they can reach people that we can't, you know?
00:41:05.000Well, another thing is, more and more prominent people, you know, defense secretaries and high-level members of parliament, and people like Reynolds, I mean, more and more prominent people are going public.
00:41:20.000More and more prominent people are taking that step across the line.
00:43:10.000I just wanted to call in with a little something that the folks out there should know.
00:43:15.000The University of Western Ontario in London, Ontario, today, it was announced in advance over the news, that Henry Morgenthaler, Dr. Henry Morgenthaler, a well-noted humanist and abortionist, was given an honorary degree for his work in, oh geez, I forget how they worded it in terms of making available safer abortions for women and legalizing it and all that sort of stuff, but
00:43:43.000Yeah, the press, they're trying to downplay the opposite point of view.
00:43:48.000Those who are against abortion, calling them anti-abortion instead of pro-life, because after all, abortionists are pro-choice.
00:43:54.000Yeah, those against should be pro-life too, but we could all see the splint as they're reporting.
00:44:01.000However, it was a good thing that they did have, it looked like the Genocide Awareness Project was out there with the big billboards with the aborted fetuses, pictures of them, pardon me, And there is one good, bright note in that one of the professors there, who could have attended, decided not to.
00:44:17.000And in his full dress, with his funny square hat and his gown, stayed with the protesters, who stated his opinion that he was completely against the university granting such an honorary and prestigious degree to somebody who has helped to promote the culture of death.
00:44:38.000I hear you, and I appreciate the call, Dean.
00:46:01.000The only problem is, the globalists don't need to have the population with them.
00:46:05.000They've got the special cadres of secret police, or the black mask, or the machine guns, who they've brainwashed enough, and already our military is, what, 25% foreign.
00:46:15.000We had a wrangle on about that on Monday.
00:46:18.000Congressman, I mean, folks, that's for real, that pretty soon we're going to have a foreign Hessian army, basically, just like the British had, and it's going to be bad.
00:46:28.000So we're headed in for some really rocky times, but no, we have the moral authority, we're on the side of life and decency and God, and they're on the side of social engineering and a bunch of inbred garbage running this country.
00:47:47.000Yeah, well, with my particular congressman locally here, I've met with him on a number of occasions, and originally he used to blow me off as a black helicopter conspiracist until I was able to provide him with enough evidence where he looked at this.
00:48:02.000But he's still for all this free trade air in America's garbage, CAFTA.
00:48:07.000And again, it's not free trade, it's total regulation, giant highways with cameras and checkpoints all over them, from Chile to Alaska, total control grids.
00:48:26.000They say they're against global government, but this Republican Party, with the help of the Democrats, has just done more and more to centralize power and consolidate and create a one-world government.
00:48:36.000But there are people waking up, and thanks to you and your tools, we've been winning victories.
00:48:42.000And I'm going to say some prayers for you tonight, because I know you're going to destroy them.
00:48:46.000You're going to destroy the opposition.
00:48:48.000Well, if I get enough time, I mean, with four people on there, and the host, Let me ask you something.
00:48:58.000What do you think about your cohort they picked for you, David Ray Griffin?
00:49:02.000I mean, we both have differences in his solutions.
00:49:06.000Do you think he's a good partner for this debate?
00:49:09.000They asked me who I thought would be good, and I gave them about five or six names, and one of them was David Ray Griffin.
00:49:16.000So I don't agree with some of his solutions, but I think his argument is very cogent.
00:49:20.000I think he'll be a good counterbalance to my rapid-fire delivery.
00:49:25.000Did I ask you who the other ones you picked?
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00:53:59.000All right, Mark and Derek and Delilah, Jim, Bart and others.
00:54:18.000You know, Delilah's a nice sounding name, but I never got how people name their children the names of bad people from the Bible.
00:54:52.000In fact, maybe we'll just skip Mark and Derek and go right to Delilah here in a second.
00:54:56.000If I have time, we're scheduled to have Pastor Pike coming on to talk about hate laws and then Jack McClam, police against the New World Order.
00:55:06.000Very quickly and briefly here, next Thursday, in Austin, Texas, South Lamar, Alamo Draft House, South Lamar, the 23rd of June, 2005, 8 o'clock, Marshall Law, 9-1-1, Rise of the Police State.
00:55:22.000This will probably be the last showing.
00:55:25.000I don't know, I might add another, but probably not.
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00:59:14.000All right, into hour number two of this Thursday, 16th day of June 2005 edition.
00:59:26.000I know we got Mark and Derek and Delilah and Jim and Tim and Barton, we're going to go to your calls in about twenty minutes or so.
00:59:33.000I will get to you in the third segment.
00:59:36.000I promise, just be patient, because no matter what issue you bring up, Ted Pike, Pastor Ted Pike, can comment on it.
00:59:44.000And Ted Pike has really been fighting these hate laws that can only be described as Nazi-Soviet style.
00:59:50.000And they're pushed by socialist groups, liberal groups, government front groups like the ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, And they're being very public now.
00:59:59.000They want, if you read Bible passages, for you to be arrested.
01:00:56.000I don't like the WASP Mafia that Bush heads up.
01:01:00.000It doesn't mean I don't like white people.
01:01:02.000And I know Pastor Ted Pike is in the same camp, but when they openly want to arrest us for reading the Bible, and they arrest people for protesting Bush to liberals now, what comes around goes around.
01:01:23.000I mean, they played their hand with really coming out with what they want.
01:01:26.000They've really shown people that you were right when you warned us ten years ago.
01:01:31.000Yes, I have been battling the big federal hate bill, especially for about the last five years, and the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, who is the architect of anti-hate legislation worldwide, has been trying desperately again and again and again.
01:01:45.000But you've been out there for a decade warning people.
01:01:47.000That's right, and they've been trying to get that through Congress, because that will create Folks, this isn't a joke.
01:02:12.000The ADL is basically in control of the federal government's program for teaching FBI agents, Justice Department officials, and even the local police.
01:02:22.000In every local police station in America, the local police take sensitivity training seminars from the ADL.
01:02:32.000They receive their definitions, their hate crimes, their statistics reporting criteria from the ADL.
01:02:39.000What the ADL is doing is sitting in the driver's seat of hate crimes education in America, but what they want to do is establish a huge federal octopus organization coming out of Washington D.C.
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01:02:58.000And they're also a criminal organization.
01:03:08.000In fact, it's just taken for granted by the FBI that if they want information that's not legally obtainable, they just go to the ADL because the ADL has such a vast library of people that they have been snooping on.
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01:08:16.000We've got Zionist documents where they say, we want people to attack Jews, then that makes the Jews go under our wings so we can control them.
01:08:24.000They had consultations with Hitler, that is the Zionists did, and all these things are public now.
01:08:29.000This is really hurting these groups badly.
01:08:32.000And you've even got a classism in there.
01:08:35.000You've got the Ashkenazi Jews and the other Jews fighting with each other.
01:08:40.000You've got the Jews that are, you know, the European Jews, the Khazarian Jews, who literally think they're better than the, what you'd call, real Jews, or, you know, Jews of the Middle East, Jews that look pretty much like Arabs.
01:09:43.000He talks about the Jews being God's chosen people.
01:09:45.000He talks about how they've been controlled.
01:09:46.000He talks about how every major prophet came to rebuke them and to try to reprove their evil.
01:09:53.000And the Bolshevik, atheistic, one-world government gun-grabbing Jews in Israel, the ones that run Israel, They're the group, with their intelligence agency, of the ADL in this country, basically Shin Bet slash Mossad arm, and they've been caught red-handed.
01:11:07.000This was in the major newspapers two weeks ago.
01:11:09.000Openly pushing for a law in the legislature where if you speak out against open borders groups, you will be arrested and registered in the same type system as a sexual predator.
01:11:22.000Peaceful Christians in Philadelphia preyed on a street corner, videotaped it, were attacked by the police, basically taken to jail, And Bush's Justice Department tried to put him in jail for 47 years.
01:12:00.000About 30 years ago, full force, in Canada, the northern branches of the ADL, which is the Nioberith, Canada, and the Canadian Jewish Congress, began to intensely lobby the Canadian Parliament in Ottawa to establish a hate crimes law for the nation.
01:12:19.000And they were successful in 1971, passing the Human Rights Act of Canada.
01:12:24.000And under Section 319 of that law, It is illegal now in Canada to criticize homosexuality in specific terms in public.
01:12:34.000And that includes on the street corner or on the airwaves.
01:12:41.000To even say that there's a higher rate of AIDS among the homosexual community than the general populace, that would be considered a hate crime.
01:12:51.000I mean, even weirdos like David Icke goes over there and doesn't say a word about Jews, and they try to arrest him saying that talking about space aliens could be code for Jews.
01:13:03.000I mean, you're not even allowed to talk about space aliens!
01:13:11.000Now, down here in the United States, in 1989, the ADL held a huge national heat crimes, model anti-heat crimes law competition amongst law students in the United States.
01:13:25.000And this was to help formulate a workable heat law that could be used both on the state and the federal level.
01:13:33.000And the winner of that competition, Joseph Ribecroft, who was a Jewish law student from Whittier, California, made some astonishing proposals.
01:13:41.000He proposed that if some right-wing organization showed a film which was critical of homosexuality, that the leaders of that organization should be indicted as hate criminals, and furthermore, if the members, perhaps even the thousands of members of that right-wing organization,
01:13:59.000continue to remain members they should all be all be indicted as hate criminals and the ADL liked that so much they gave him first prize they threw that in the hopper and they created a model anti-hate law for the states and uh... during the nineteen nineties the ADL very very quietly but very insistently persuaded no less than about forty six of the state legislatures in america to adopt some version of their anti-hate law
01:14:29.000And this was the anti-hate law which indicted these Christians in Philadelphia this last October 8th.
01:14:39.000And so what we have today is we have an Orwellian system of hate laws already established on the local, the state level, which can be activated any time the ADL wants to go after a pastor, or perhaps an anti-abortionist, a doctor, or whatever.
01:14:56.000But the big problem, the big prize for the ADL is a federal, big brother, anti-hate law.
01:15:03.000And as I mentioned earlier, for about the past five years, they've been trying incessantly to get this law passed.
01:15:10.000And I've been pretty much leading the movement against this and raising a ruckus every time they introduce it.
01:15:16.000The last time it was introduced was on June 15th when, to my astonishment, no less than 15 Republican Senators went over and voted with the Democrats, 65 to 33, in favor of what was called the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Act.
01:15:36.000But I was on the radio all summer long on Dozens of talk shows warning the American people against it, and we were able to defeat that on October 8th.
01:15:46.000But the ADL, in tremendous anger and fury and revenge against having lost in the House, they hit back against these 11 Christians in Philadelphia.
01:15:58.000Basically they said, if we can't have our federal hate law, and if the Christians will defeat us on the federal level, we're going to hit back hard on the state level.
01:16:07.000And so through their Their district attorney, Lynn Abraham, who is a national executive board member of the ADL, through the head honcho of the ADL, Lynn Abraham authorized the arrest of these 11 Christians that turned out to be the The biggest mistake the ADL ever made because it backfired on them tremendously.
01:16:31.000We got tremendous national and international attention showing how they were attempting basically to begin persecution of Christians in America.
01:16:40.000Well, I mean, the laws they were proposing said this in countries like England and Germany and Canada, where they've gotten it passed, they do this.
01:16:50.000People didn't want to believe us, but why were Christian leaders silent when the ADL led the charge against the Ten Commandments.
01:17:00.000Well, this is really, really baffling.
01:17:02.000I think one of the reasons why the ADL was so bold in Philadelphia was because despite Christians coming out and going as far as the ballot box and voting down these gay marriage referendums, nevertheless the Christian community has a pretty poor record in the last few years of actually going out there and becoming militant and making signs and standing up for what they believe.
01:17:28.000And I think the ADL... Well, that's because the preachers tell them don't do that.
01:17:39.000I think the Christian community is unbelievably weak and passive.
01:17:44.000But thanks to AM Talk Radio I was able to find About 45 talk show hosts, like yourself, who were able to put me on the air, and we sounded the alarm, and got millions and millions of people aware, in very practical terms, of the threat of anti-hate laws.
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01:23:03.000You can talk about whatever issue you want, but I'm sure Pastor Pike will have a comment or two on it.
01:23:09.000And I've got some other news I want to go over with him, but... Folks, I mean, really, this is the group driving for laws that some states have passed, like Pennsylvania, where you read Bible passages, preachers can be arrested or fined.
01:23:28.000Now, again, if we go along with that, we're in the jaws of the Soviet Americas.
01:23:32.000If we say no, it'll blow up in their face and they will fail.
01:23:37.000But think about it, I mean, trying to get the Ten Commandments out of our buildings?
01:23:43.000I mean, that's what the ADL does, basically an arm of Israel.
01:23:46.000While our government gives everything to Israel, supports Israel, they're busy trying to basically take our government over.
01:23:52.000And that's what governments always try to do.
01:23:55.000You know, the Nazis tried it, the Russians tried it, the British have tried it.
01:24:46.000Well, Princess Diana, and that was down in Houston, Princess Diana said, Charles has told me he's going to kill me and it's going to look like a fake auto accident.
01:24:55.000And then she dies in the auto accident.
01:24:59.000I mean, that just takes hours to go over.
01:25:01.000But replacing the car, turning the cameras off, the ambulance taking 30 minutes to get there, driving 25 miles an hour.
01:25:08.000Any comments on all these assassinations the globalists carry out, Pastor?
01:25:13.000Well, as we've been mentioning, the ADL is the American branch of Mossad.
01:25:19.000And there is certainly a network which has been well established of of crime, involvement in crime, involvement in all kinds of covert activity, and there's an interesting document called the Hoaxer Report by Larry Wilcox of the University of Kansas, which
01:25:39.000Graphically reveals how the ADL will get into all kinds of illegal activities including the role of agent provocateur, desecrating synagogues, creating hate crimes, creating all this kind of illegal activity in order to create The illusion of an epidemic of hate or an epidemic of anti-semitism.
01:25:59.000You've actually got that report and mainstream articles on your site.
01:26:11.000You know, mailing each other mean... They caught them up in Idaho, what, about seven years ago?
01:26:17.000They were trying to pass a hate law, and they had the white supremacists out, hail Hitler, down with the Jews, down with the blacks.
01:26:22.000All this horrible stuff, and then they found out the guys really worked for a rabbi, and the donations were going back to his address.
01:26:30.000Yeah, there's just too many reports, documented accounts of this, actually.
01:26:35.000So now it makes sense that I have the white supremacists threatening to kill me, and I have ADL after me.
01:26:42.000Yes, the ADL is the unregistered agent of a foreign government Israel of Mossad in the United States.
01:26:51.000They are in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1937 which requires people who lobby for a foreign government in the United States to at least register with the federal government.
01:27:03.000They are also in violation of the separation of church and state Because the federal government, under the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990, which the ADL lobbied and passed, gives the ADL the right, as an adjunct of a religious organization, which is B'nai B'rith International, to teach, as I say, law enforcement in the United States about hate crimes.
01:27:30.000We're going to come back and go to Delilah and others, but folks, I'm tired of being knocked upside the head by these people.
01:27:36.000They prance around, they claim they represent Jews, they don't.
01:27:41.000You track back the Zionists, they actually supported Hitler.
01:27:43.000I mean, this is a very evil group, Pastor Pike.
01:27:47.000Yes, we have a real problem in the world today with Jewish false leadership, evil leadership, which seems to represent the Jewish people, but in reality is actually fomenting anti-Semitism around the world.
01:28:02.000I mean, all of these abuses, and I could include Israel, where we have terrorists, Who have turned into premiers like Shamir and Begin and... And I have Haratz!
01:28:13.000That's the big Jewish newspaper admitting that a lot of these Al-Qaeda attacks over there, it turned out, were fake Mossad operations!
01:28:32.000And that's gone clear back, you know, to the Bible, where the Pharisees led the Jewish people into fanaticism and racism, ultimately leading into the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
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01:32:29.000But think about how ridiculous this is.
01:33:02.000Thank God the Christians had shot video of all this.
01:33:05.000And Bush was there trying to prosecute this.
01:33:07.000Bush takes the Attorney General They're in Alabama that went after Judge Roy Moore and elevates him to a federal judgeship.
01:33:17.000He appoints Alberto Gonzalez, pro-abortion, pro-not even 12-year-olds having to tell their parents they're going to have one, anti-gun.
01:33:27.000I told the liberals, you really ought to love George Bush.
01:33:31.000You know, you're going to love all this stuff when they put a Democratic puppet in.
01:33:35.000You're going to lose your rights, we're going to lose our rights.
01:33:37.000If we don't all have free speech, folks, none of us have it.
01:33:42.000And they're going to have trouble killing the First Amendment.
01:33:46.000They're already trying to kill the Second.
01:33:48.000Look, I support all the Bill of Rights, and a big tool in shattering the false left-right paradigm that controls us, a key tool in this fight, are my videos and books.
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01:36:15.000And I have four major videos I've done, including heat crimes, making criminals of Christians, This is an 80 minute documentary giving a complete background on the ADL and all the illegal activities.
01:36:29.000And if your pastor won't show this, you're in the wrong church.
01:36:32.000Yeah, well this is a dynamite to show at your church or your conservative club or whatever.
01:36:41.000Well, I think liberals would want to see this too.
01:36:43.000I mean, I think the so-called real liberals out there, they don't want to take people's free speech.
01:36:48.000Oh no, in fact, I'm very happy to talk to liberal audiences, liberal talk shows, because the liberals really have as much to lose eventually as the rest of us, because if If they don't keep the hate crimes laws back, they will lose their privilege of criticizing Christians.
01:37:05.000And that would be a great loss for the liberals.
01:37:08.000But anyway... And we've seen selective enforcement, but they'll still barn a few of the so-called liberals to do that.
01:37:16.000For all practical purposes, these hate laws are anti-Christian laws.
01:37:20.000And it'll be quite a while before the liberals feel the brunt of prosecution.
01:37:24.000But, uh, this video is a, uh, I go to the ADL, right in front of the ADL headquarters in Seattle, I go in front of the police station in Vancouver, Canada.
01:37:35.000This is a complete documentation of the origins and the ambitions of anti-hate laws to bring persecution and an end to free speech.
01:37:44.000Alright, how do folks, folks can go to truthtellers.org or they can call a number?
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01:37:53.000They obviously can't call that right now.
01:38:02.000I think I may be on with Jack McClam in a while, but this morning you can call 5-0-3-6-3-1-3-8-0-8 and give me your credit card and I'll be happy to fire one of those off to you.
01:38:16.000I hope to keep you on with a few minutes so you can say hi to Jack when he comes on.
01:38:22.000Getting back to this though, because I want to go to these calls here in a minute, I don't think people realize that we have Robin Page, just a mainstream BBC broadcaster, pretty liberal, old guy, for like 12 years, one of the number one shows on BBC, one man and his dog, he walks from town to town with the TV crew, showing the pubs and restaurants and hotels and the lakes and, you know, what's in the town.
01:38:49.000They're banning fox hunting and they're banning a lot of different types of farming and stuff in England.
01:38:53.000And so about four years ago, actually three and a half years ago, it was right before 9-11, he gets up at a Rural Affairs, and they even had a clip of it on the BBC, and the BBC thought it was wonderful that their guy had been arrested.
01:39:07.000And he just said, look, we're losing our rights as rural communities.
01:39:10.000We deserve the same rights, this is a quote, as homosexuals and Muslims.
01:39:18.000Well, the Scotland Yard Diversity Unit came and arrested him the next night, and threatened to charge him with inciting hatred, and he said he was very sorry, so they released him and dropped the charges.
01:39:30.000And the head of Scotland Yard Diversity Unit in the BBC, and it was in London Telegraph too, said, well he said the word homosexual.
01:39:39.000And we decide if even using that word is hate.
01:39:42.000So just talking, just saying the God word, I mean this is almost like you're not allowed to say the word Jehovah, well now this is the God word, we decide if you're allowed to even say this word.
01:39:53.000And I had Mr. Page on, And then later I saw articles, and these are all posted under it, in the old audio archives of PrisonPlanet.com.
01:40:00.000Folks, there are hundreds of these cases we know of.
01:40:03.000It said 100 plus homes raided in an anti-hate raid.
01:40:09.000And then I thought, man, let's hear what this is about.
01:40:12.000And it said that almost all of them were people that were heard saying racial slurs.
01:40:16.000And I mean, they slam them down, they handcuff them in front of their kids, they take them to jail, and they do it to a bunch of different groups so everybody gets into tattling on each other.
01:40:26.000And I mean, this is the Soviet Union, people, and listen, They're doing this in Canada.
01:40:43.000They are the ones, you know, the Wright Brothers invented the airplane.
01:40:46.000The ADL invented Heat crimes laws and heat crimes definitions.
01:40:51.000Well, actually, didn't the Soviets 40, 50 years ago have similar things?
01:40:54.000Well, but the ADL and the Jewish Bolsheviks go back clear underneath the... No, I understand that.
01:41:00.000Yeah, it's all part of this false, this problem of false, evil Jewish leadership, whether it's in Bolshevism, whether it's international banking, the media, Zionism, and so on.
01:41:12.000Which does not represent the Jewish people, but is actually a curse to the Jewish people.
01:41:23.000There's a very fundamental working definition for hate which is shared not only by the ADL but by the federal government right now and that is hate equals bias against certain federally protected groups such as homosexuals.
01:41:39.000Now what that does is... Now they're just using the homosexuals as a front group.
01:41:53.000The ADL is an extremely evil organization which should be disbanded.
01:41:59.000And I really do call upon Jews of good intentions to end the ADL and Ben-Ni-Bret. - And there are a lot of good conservative Jewish groups.
01:42:08.000Who are some of those guys? - Well, Rabbi Lapin is one conservative Jew.
01:42:12.000I would love to see somebody like him kind of become a second Moses and lead the Jewish people out of this bondage to the cruel of the Jews. - Well, exactly.
01:42:21.000Was Moses anti-semitic when he threw the tablets down and God killed the golden calf worshippers?
01:42:28.000I mean, really, that's the same group we're always fighting.
01:43:24.000I mean, now it's hurting them, though, because all the documents are coming out of the Soviet archives and the German archives and the U.S.
01:43:40.000Salon Magazine did a report on this big occultist who had this big, weird temple in Nazi Germany and Berlin.
01:43:46.000And at the end of the war, Hitler left him alone.
01:43:48.000I mean, it's so sick To watch what the Zionists have done to Jews?
01:43:54.000Well, they will do anything, literally anything, including sacrificing their own people in order to obtain the kind of dominance they want.
01:44:09.000Historically, rabbinic Judaism and the ADL and all this evil leadership has needed the antagonism of anti-Semitism in order to cause the Jewish people to cohere together as a block and keep them separated, keep them isolated, keep them hating Jesus Christ and the Gentiles keep them hating Jesus Christ and the Gentiles and so on.
01:44:30.000But the truth of the matter is that thousands of years ago, God told the Jewish people through Jeremiah that when they were dispersed among the nations, they should try to seek the peace and the good and the welfare of those nations.
01:44:43.000And I'd love to see Jews like Rabbi Lappin call the Jewish people to return to that benign and Well, as Christians, we have to ask ourselves, I mean, is it OK this group wants the Ten Commandments down?
01:44:56.000faith and obedience to God's law as they understand it then we would have peace in the Middle East then we would have peace and we would have an end to anti-semitism well as Christians we have to ask ourselves I mean is it okay this group wants the Ten Commandments down I mean are we anti-semitic if we want the Ten Commandments yeah those are those are very good questions and the time has come now Alex but we have got to be able to boldly criticize this evil curse that
01:45:22.000Yes, but as you said, we have directly tracked the white supremacist, it was like the good old boy roundup in 91, 92, burning effigies of blacks, burning effigies of Jews, selling N-word hunting licenses, all these feds together.
01:45:36.000Every time we track, now Morris Dease is in trouble, track back to Oklahoma City, and all these people at Elohim City, Same story!
01:45:43.000Every time these horrible, Jew-hating people, you know, calling them all these names, they are actually aiding, in many cases consciously getting a paycheck, to actually aid the Zionists.
01:45:57.000And my intention, I believe as an evangelical Christian, that God does have a covenant with a remnant of Jews who are predestined to be converted to Christ at His second coming.
01:46:08.000I believe that I have a duty as a Christian to seek the welfare and the good of the Jewish people and preserve them for God's plan in the ages.
01:46:15.000And what I see is the ADL, false leadership, running competition to me as they try to ensnare the Jewish people under the accusation that they are all evil or degenerate or subversive or whatever.
01:46:38.000I remember back in the early 60's my parents were on the radio here in Portland and they were dedicated anti-communists and knew nothing of any kind of Zionist conspiracy and yet the ADL made a visit to that local radio station demanding that Claude Pike be put off the air and we couldn't believe that just for being anti-communist we were considered anti-semitic at the same time.
01:47:02.000Well, I mean, David, Ike's talking about space aliens.
01:47:20.000Yes, well, the big problem right now, Alex, is we have a new version of the ADL's federal hate bill, which was just introduced on May 26th.
01:47:34.000We've got to get the calls going in there, we've got to... You know, you can stomp on a rattlesnake, but he's not really dead until you cut off his head.
01:47:42.000And the ADL is going to bring this bill back in, in various forms, again and again and again.
01:48:06.000And these bills always have the number six in them or multiples of six in them.
01:48:10.000By the way, if people don't believe this, type bill number 666 in, and you'll get thousands of old bills, and they're always horrible police state bills.
01:48:18.000Yeah, the last one was S-9-6-6, this is 2-6-6-2, and so on.
01:48:22.000Anyway... We have bills that are openly called 666!
01:48:26.000This hate bill, here's a tongue twister, it's called the Local Law Enforcement Enhancement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2005.
01:48:35.000But just call your member of Congress, even if you don't know who it is, you call in there to this number I'll give you right now and the lady will take your zip code and put you in direct contact with your member of Congress.
01:49:02.000And here's just a couple things you might say.
01:49:06.000Number one, for preaching the gospel, 11 Christians were arrested under Pennsylvania's anti-hate law.
01:49:14.000One reason you should say that is it shows to those members of Congress That hate laws are mean, they're vicious, they're not idealistic, they're out to throw Christians in jail.
01:49:24.000So number one, tell them for preaching the gospel, eleven Christians were arrested under Pennsylvania's anti-hate law.
01:49:32.000And number two, this proves that hate laws persecute Christians and end free speech.
01:49:38.000Number two, this proves that hate laws persecute Christians and end free speech.
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01:53:15.000I'd like Pastor Pike to please address the issue of the confusion where a lot of people say that, especially Christians, say that you have to obey the government no matter what and then they use Romans 13 to back that up.
01:53:31.000I'd like Pastor Pike to also address Where the in the book of Acts chapter 5 where they were in front of the high priest and they were told not to preach the name of Christ.
01:53:42.000And Peter and the Apostles clearly said we ought to obey God rather than men.
01:53:47.000Well, I mean, Romans 13 is taken out of context.
01:54:08.000Yes, the Bible never requires us to obey Anyone, outside of our conscience.
01:54:15.000And governments are established among men, according to the Constitution and the Bible, in order to seek the peace and the good of those that they rule over.
01:54:25.000And when they become destructive of those aims, it is our right, our duty, to overturn those.
01:54:50.000Well, I mean, Hitler's favorite quote was that, and it's taken out of context.
01:54:52.000These are the things that are Caesar's.
01:54:54.000The problem with the federal government and the IRS, and that is that they have gone far beyond their God-given rights concerning taxation and so on.
01:55:04.000Well, I mean, Hitler's favorite quote was that, and it's taken out of context.
01:55:08.000You read the whole body of it, and it's totally clear.
01:55:14.000There's a simple common sense solution.
01:55:16.000The Bible wants to encourage us to live in peace and be inoffensive among all of the nations and all of the political systems which the church will have to go through during the thousands of years of the church age.
01:55:29.000And it doesn't endorse any particular system.
01:55:33.000But it does say that we should bend to the best of our ability to government, even when they're not perfect.
01:55:39.000But when push comes to shove and the government requires us to do things which are strictly against our conscience, then like Peter and John, we have to stand up and say, we must obey God rather than man.
01:55:53.000Yeah, I mean, if your leader says, eat your baby's brain, you don't have to do it, folks.
01:56:24.000I just found out recently that I actually have Semitic Jewish blood in my family lineage.
01:56:31.000I also wanted to bring up Revelation chapter 2, number 9.
01:56:36.000I know thy works in tribulation and poverty, and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
01:56:45.000It also talks about, in Revelation, about how we're going to be persecuted as Christians.
01:57:04.000And I just wanted to tell all the listeners out there that one of the things that can turn this around is Just call out to the good God and ask Him for help and that's just about it.
01:57:18.000Thanks for the call and thanks for the videos you brought down to the TV studio.
01:57:21.000Pastor Pike, comments to what he just said?
01:57:23.000Yes, we are in a spiritual warfare and the Bible correctly interpreted does have profound guidance for us in our time.
01:57:32.000And, uh, tragically, there have been, uh, interpreters of biblical prophecy, like Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye, who've gotten the church way out of touch with reality.
01:58:30.000I'm honored to have Pastor Ted Pike for 10-15 more minutes with us to talk about the federal and state anti-hate law stuff that really is just the end of free speech.
01:58:39.000No more Ten Commandments, no more praying, no more reading out of the Old Testament.
01:58:47.000And joining us is Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order, to talk about several issues, but while we've got Pastor Pike with us for 10-15 more minutes, I know you guys are friends, you can say hi to each other.
01:59:08.000County Sheriff, saying, if you criticize the open borders, they're going to come arrest you, register you in a database with sex offenders.
01:59:17.000Yes, well, that chief down there is a Aztlan Reconquista guy, and he wants the Southwest to go back under Mexico, so you're going to hear a lot of that out of him.
01:59:50.000Jack, they're really trying to run this through on us.
01:59:53.000I mean, it's everywhere, and they're just not stopping.
01:59:55.000But do you agree with Pastor Pike that it blew up in their face, trying to give a bunch of Christians 47 years in prison for praying on a street corner?
02:00:03.000I believe God gave us that victory, I'm telling you, because that was the worst mistake they could have done, is for just speaking from the Word of God to arrest them and try to get them 47 years was just so ridiculous that everybody in America probably Sucked in a breath when they even heard that.
02:00:22.000But it shows their desire, and I said this last night on air, they want to get us in gulags, they want to stomp our guts out.
02:00:30.000And it's coming, if we don't get out of our prayer closets and out of occupying a seat in a pew with our dear heirs and put some feet to our prayers, we're all going to be in the gulags if we let it keep going like this.
02:00:54.000Well, you know, for the last five years, I've been struggling against the, particularly the federal anti-hate bill.
02:01:01.000We've done mass mailings to Congress and so on, and I've always encountered this retort that, oh, it can't happen in America because we have the Bill of Rights, we have the First Amendment and so on, and that these federal hate bills are symbolic, largely they are statements, the government taking a stand against hate crimes and so on.
02:01:22.000And yet, what happened in Philadelphia on October 10th was it showed in very vivid terms how aggressive and how willing to inveigle Christians into the court system and possible huge fines and imprisonment.
02:01:37.000These hate laws are, they are, they have been specifically crafted... Well, look at what they do in other countries.
02:01:42.000Pastor Pike, five years ago, I was watching TV, came across MTV, and for two hours, and I tuned out, it was 24 hours long, I later learned, they were scrolling dead people killed in hate crimes.
02:01:54.000It was really only about 20 people, but they kept showing their pictures, call Congress, call Congress.
02:01:59.000That's how important it is to Sumner Redstone to get our free speech taken away.
02:02:06.000Now, we have to remember that all of these so-called, uh, high levels of hate crimes that are occurring in the United States are all smoke and mirrors.
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02:06:11.000States have passed laws where reading from the Old Testament will get you jail time.
02:06:18.000And they arrest people every day in Canada, Germany, and England for the most petty of things.
02:06:25.000And they always start out with, well you don't like that Neo-Nazi burning a cross even in his own yard and screaming at black people, let's arrest him!
02:06:35.000But see, none of us, I would imagine none of us out there agree with that.
02:06:40.000Maybe one out of a thousand listeners, maybe.
02:06:43.000So, we say, well, let's take his rights away.
02:06:56.000We're talking to the founder and head of Police and Military Against the New World Order, Officer Jack McClam.
02:07:02.000And we've also got Pastor Ted Pycon with us and Truthseeker.org, or no, Truthtellers.org, excuse me.
02:07:11.000And Pastor Pike, they're very close to passing this new super federalization bill to create this whole new wonderful bureaucracy of thought crime.
02:07:22.000In closing, give us that toll-free number to Congress and tell us what to call and what to do.
02:07:28.000Yes, we've had a lot of flak coming against the ADL.
02:07:32.000They've been badly bloodied by what happened in Philadelphia.
02:07:37.000Losing lawsuits for slandering people?
02:07:39.000Yeah, but they are trying again with an even worse.
02:07:43.000Believe it or not, they're wanting now to protect cross-dressers and transvestites and female impersonators.
02:07:52.000They have added... That is, if you criticize them, you're going to jail.
02:07:58.000They've added gender identity to this latest version of their hate bill, making it even more brazen, even more audacious and incredible than they've ever done before.
02:08:10.000And I think the ADL is kind of out of control.
02:09:08.000All right, Jack McClam, I'm sorry that ran a bit over, but that was, as you know, important.
02:09:12.000Let me tell you, the First Amendment is of prime importance, brother, so it's so important that we take action on that H.R.
02:09:21.000I know you love to talk about Romans 13, and I've studied it myself.
02:09:27.000You've had a lot of experts on your show.
02:09:28.000We had a caller earlier bring that up.
02:09:30.000Would you like to comment on Romans 13 and how dangerous the twisting of that is?
02:09:34.000Well, that's what woke me up to start studying my Holy Bible.
02:09:39.000I've been a Christian since Vietnam, since the war in Vietnam.
02:09:43.000But I really would always go to the man we pay money to every week to teach us what's in the Holy Scriptures.
02:09:50.000And Alex, it was Romans 13 and the Christians withdrawing and the ministers telling us to obey everything evil government tells us to do because all evil government's of God.
02:10:01.000And as a cop, we call that aiding and abetting the commission of a crime.
02:10:06.000You know, and so as a cop, when I would see Christians going along with abortion, going along with everything, not taking a stand, not speaking out, and the ministers say, keep your head down, we're leaving here next week, it doesn't matter, God will straighten it out when He gets here.
02:10:21.000What I saw, brother, with this misinterpretation of Romans 13 was very, very evil things happening, and I remembered in the Scriptures that God says, a good tree can't give off bad fruit.
02:10:35.000And so as I began to, as a Christian, look at how Christians were withdrawing from all the institutions and withdrawing into the church and into their prayer closets to await this rapture that's always coming next week.
02:10:50.000Billy Graham's been saying that for 75 years.
02:10:54.000And I saw how evil all this was and I thought, there's something wrong With our interpretation.
02:11:00.000So I began to read the Bible myself in Romans 13 and I found that what God always told us to do is stand up against evil in every area, in every part of the world.
02:11:14.000And of course, then I saw that the disciples and the prophets that all died at the hands of government.
02:11:21.000And I thought, something's wrong with our interpretation of Romans 13.
02:11:25.000When everybody that's good, the founding fathers, the lawful government they were under, listed them all as traitors and were out to kill them and hang them.
02:11:35.000And so, I woke up to the fact that somebody's lying to us about Well, the whole Bible, and again for those that are Christians, we're covering this because this is what's controlling society.
02:11:48.000This is how the globalists are controlling America, keeping Christians under their control.
02:11:52.000So even if you are a Christian, which I think is foolish, don't look at phony Christians and think that's Christianity.
02:11:58.000Christians are the people that ended slavery.
02:12:00.000Christians are the people that stood up against Hitler and the Soviets and the Communist Chinese.
02:12:04.000It's real Christians always on the front line.
02:12:06.000We just got it from the Bilderberg Group, from two different sources.
02:12:09.000Who themselves had three different sources, that it's Christian patriots that are fighting the New World Order, that the globalists are upset about.
02:12:19.000So folks, this is why we talk so much about this, because all the prophets did was rebuke the kings, and the lords, and the pharisees, and were killed for it.
02:12:41.000And you know, the Bible says repeatedly, God says repeatedly, if you stand up for me and my laws, you will be persecuted.
02:12:50.000It didn't say maybe, possibly, it could happen.
02:12:54.000It said you will be persecuted in my name.
02:12:57.000So, you know, if those listeners out there listening today are not being persecuted because they're standing up for God's laws, they better check their parameters.
02:13:07.000Because all of us should be feeling the persecution today if we're actually following God's law.
02:13:12.000But, you know, the persecution helps me get up in the morning.
02:13:59.000When I get here, there's nowhere in the Scriptures That it says that God's people are supposed to get off the battlefield against His enemies.
02:14:26.000Well, they're in for a big surprise, because as I say, Billy Graham has been very disappointed.
02:14:31.000He's been telling people God's coming back next week for 75 years, and he's still here.
02:14:38.000And also, we might say to all those Christians out there who have been told by their pastors that all we've got to do is keep our head down and just pray about it.
02:14:46.000God will clean it up when he gets here, and we're not going to be in the tribulation.
02:14:50.000Well, think of the 160 million people who have been slaughtered, and most of those Christians over the last decade.
02:14:59.000160 million Christians slaughtered, and guess what?
02:15:02.000They didn't get raptured out of here, Alex, you know?
02:15:50.000If we hadn't abandoned the institutions, you know, just not too long ago, about a hundred years ago, we started believing in this Doctrine that we should obey everything evil government tells us to do.
02:16:05.000If we hadn't abandoned the institutions, brother, we wouldn't have the devil in control today and be going through this persecution.
02:16:13.000Well, I read all the FBI files and the manuals and the training systems.
02:16:29.000And also, we must remind our fellow Christians that to get along, to go along, as the preachers are teaching today, we call them government preachers because they're under the government.
02:16:39.000They're not under God with all their licenses and everything.
02:16:43.000And they're also obeying what the government tells them they can preach and what they can't preach.
02:16:47.000But you know, there were Christians in the Holy Bible.
02:16:50.000God showed us that as long as you were a Christian, And you would have followed Caesar first, meaning government first.
02:17:13.000But remember, the Christians like we have today, 99.9% of America, It seems like, anyway, that high percentage are just going along, and so under this Antichrist New World Order, for a time, until they get their heads cut off, they'll do just fine.
02:17:29.000They won't be put in the furnaces, they won't be fed to the lions.
02:17:35.000Jack, I want to get into, shift gears and get into law enforcement, get into this interesting article I heard you reading yesterday on air.
02:17:41.000We'll be right back with Jack McClammon, your calls as well.
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02:22:02.000We're talking to Jack McClam, police and military against the New World Order, whether it's 25 or it's even older than that, police and military organization.
02:22:10.000There's an article published in a major magazine, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars are paid out every year to settle lawsuits against police departments.
02:22:18.000In this excerpt from Breaking Rank to be published by Nation Books, the former chief of Seattle Police Force explains why it makes better financial sense for a cop to kill you by accident rather than just wound you.
02:22:32.000And to try to boil it all down, because Jack basically read the whole chapter on air on his show, and we don't have time, to boil it all down and then to get Jack's take on it, because Jack's talked about this so much on this broadcast, they have a system where instead of punishing bad cops, the lawyers and risk managers say, don't
02:22:54.000Punish him, because that would admit guilt, so then that protects bad people, so the cops know they can be totally lawless, driving around like maniac shooting people, then they pay out a lot more money because of it.
02:23:06.000Whereas if police chiefs and others could really prosecute people that did it wrong, bad folks would stay out of the ranks, they would self-enforce.
02:23:14.000But again, this is what the globalists want, so they've set this up by design, so in the name of stopping liability, they've actually created massive liability, and it's an amazing article, and he gives examples of officers killing a whole family with their car, driving like crazy people, and then they just say, look, we can't fire him, we're not doing anything to him, we're not going to even say we're wrong.
02:23:38.000It's a system, and we're just thanking this police chief who's written this book now.
02:23:44.000He's now a former police chief, breaking ranks.
02:23:47.000It's Norm Stamper, who was the police chief last in San Diego and Seattle Police Force.
02:23:53.000And he says in here, that's the way it works in police work today.
02:23:58.000If an officer gets in trouble, violates somebody's rights, or injures somebody, I've seen it in the sixth largest city in the United States, Phoenix Police Department, you're told the officers get together in a big room, who are on the scene, and you write your police reports together.
02:24:14.000You lie together, basically, on your police reports to protect the city from suit.
02:24:20.000And that's what he's talking about in this article, that he as a police chief was told by the bean counters and his city officials, like the mayor and others, Chief, keep your mouth shut, we're hanging out on this one a mile.
02:24:35.000And so he talks about this, of where officers violate people's rights, will seriously injure people and their families through errors and mistakes, and also through meanness and nastiness.
02:24:49.000I mean, doing what we call this revenge on people that we believe they deserve it, like Rodney King, for example, and just beat the holy heck out of him.
02:25:03.000Well, they say just the chief has to keep his mouth shut, the officers have to keep their mouth shut, and I've been in the police academies, the regional police academy in Phoenix, Arizona, where officers are told that, and they're brainwashed into believing that the citizens are not on their side.
02:25:21.000We had a statement in my academy class, Alex, that said, You are no longer citizens.
02:25:26.000You're an entity of government above the citizens to better supervise them for their own good.
02:25:31.000And by the way, the citizens won't be there for you.
02:25:45.000Then the police carry this out, then it does turn the citizens against them.
02:25:49.000It actually endangers cops, makes cops become a hated commodity, even when most of them are still good.
02:25:54.000And in this incredible article, the police chief, as you said, of San Diego and then Seattle, he retired out of Seattle.
02:26:02.000He actually shows how, when they started this 30 years ago, it exponentially exploded the number of claims and bad cops, nothing can be done, good cops are persecuted, good police chiefs are persecuted, and it just compacts the police more and more into basically a cult!
02:26:22.000Yes, and it keeps the bad officers on the team, in the system.
02:26:27.000And of course then you propound the problems when you keep the bad officers in there if you can't bring them up on charges and you can't expose what they do wrong because the cities are going to lose millions.
02:26:39.000Then, of course, that exacerbates the whole situation.
02:26:42.000And now you've got a whole crew doing more and more and more bad.
02:26:46.000Now you've got a whole crew of police who are trained to lie, and it starts with a little lie, and pretty soon, what are they doing, Chuck?
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02:30:54.000Got about 27 minutes left with Jack McClam, a load of phone lines, but we need to continue with this article, and we'll get into some of your calls.
02:31:03.000Yeah, the headline is, keep your mouth shut on this one, Chief.
02:31:09.000On it, and we're talking about horrible stuff.
02:31:11.000Cops shooting people in the back, running over people with cars, doing it.
02:31:15.000And then I guess, Jack, it creates a climate of where you get a bunch of spoiled police who can't ever get in trouble because of the police union.
02:31:51.000They're being conditioned from the moment they go into the police academy.
02:31:55.000I was a certified state police academy instructor for five years.
02:32:00.000And the officers are taught that the citizens Are there to be supervised.
02:32:06.000They're there to supervise the citizens.
02:32:08.000The system should never be attacked because the system is a humanist type system where cops are taught that the system is kind of like God.
02:32:18.000And if the system is attacked, we all suffer.
02:32:21.000If the system falls and we'll all be enslaved, we'll lose our freedoms.
02:32:26.000So we're there to, we're there officers to protect the system from the people.
02:32:30.000And it's just a horrible brainwashing.
02:32:33.00099% of these officers out there are good-hearted.
02:32:36.000They took the job for the right reason.
02:32:37.000They wanted to serve and protect the American people.
02:32:40.000But they don't understand what they've been turned into, like I was.
02:33:13.000And you were injured a lot of duty many times, but when you refused to go along, though, things got bad.
02:33:18.000Well, I was the most highly decorated officer, Alex, but I'm also the most fired officer in the history of Phoenix, Arizona, because I began to say, no!
02:33:28.000No, I'm not changing my police report.
02:33:30.000And if you guys change yours, I'm telling.
02:33:33.000Boy, I tell you, that's very unpopular.
02:33:36.000The state police gave me the title of traitor from within because I was such a big mouth.
02:33:42.000I wouldn't let other officers be convinced that they should lie and cheat and take the witness stand and tell falsehood.
02:33:49.000And I was a demon, because I wouldn't allow those around me that I had seen them do things wrong, I wouldn't let them to cover it up.
02:33:56.000Well, it's like Terence Yankee at Oklahoma City.
02:34:05.000I was put in positions where I would call for a backup.
02:34:08.000We worked in the war zone, and I was put on night shift to punish me when I returned to work because they fired me because of my First Amendment exercise.
02:34:19.000They put me on a late shift in a very bad part of town by myself, and when I called for a backup, when I was in serious trouble, nobody would come.
02:34:30.000And so they fired me a second time, and I won my job back another time because it was a vendetta to destroy me and what I was trying to do, what I was saying, my religious beliefs and moral beliefs.
02:34:42.000And so I understand what officers go through, like this chief talks about in his article, and it's sad, but this chief, Norm Stamper, didn't write his book until he got out of law enforcement.
02:34:54.000How wonderful it would have been if he just stood up while he was in law enforcement and said, heck no!
02:35:01.000This officer did this, he's going to take the ride for it.
02:35:05.000We feel bad for him, but if he did wrong, then he'll pay the price.
02:35:18.000That further compacts the cult mentality.
02:35:21.000I mean, I've read gang handbooks on gangs, and it's the gangs all together, everybody's against each other, we've got to do this for the good of the gang.
02:35:30.000It's the same mentality, but he goes over the numbers in this, a police chief in two of the biggest cities in the country, Seattle and San Diego, and he talks about how, how he watched it change by always defending bad cops, by defending mistakes, it makes everybody get more out of control, and then they end up paying out many times more money!
02:35:51.000Well, it's good for the system that's being set up, Alex, that is setting the police and military against the people.
02:36:00.000And that's so important that we have police and soldiers that will do anything they're told to do against the citizens that may stand up and speak out against the system.
02:36:09.000Remember, today the system is God, and the highest authority in the world is those Supremes in the black dresses up there called the Supreme Court, a cop is taught.
02:36:18.000And so once you believe that, it is your duty to protect the system from the people, and the government knows you'll do anything you're told to do against a private citizen that is attacking the system.
02:36:30.000Standing up like Alex Jones, standing up and speaking out against the system.
02:36:35.000But Jack, just from 10 years ago, I would talk to police and they weren't waking up.
02:36:41.000Now, I talk not just to you or Colonel Craig Roberts, but a lot of senior police, people that are still in.
02:36:48.000I mean, I'll pull up to get my laundry and there's a high-level state police officer, let's just say about as high as it gets, He calls me outside and says, listen, we know you're right.
02:37:15.000At our two police and military associations here, our numbers are going up with Personal contact, email and faxes and phone calls from more police and soldiers than ever before.
02:37:26.000It is a backlash coming, Alex, because our police and soldiers realize that as they have families, they're not stupid, all of them, some of them are kind of stupid, but a lot of them realize that if they have total control over the citizens, Their children are going to be slaves!
02:37:43.000So they are beginning to wake up as this draconian system descends on our society today.
02:37:52.000When they're driving their pickup truck after work, they're going to be paying $2,000 a year in road tolls in Austin.
02:37:59.000Well, that could be, or they could be given a special chip where they won't be charged for it, you know?
02:38:05.000I remember when I was a cop in Phoenix and Well, 4th of July we would go to the city park to shoot off fireworks or watch fireworks and the cops would be opening the trunk of every car and I'd just roll up, put my badge out, and they'd say, hey brother, just go ahead.
02:38:20.000I wouldn't have to open my trunk, so watch out.
02:38:22.000They may give some kind of a free pass to these enforcers out there so that they feel very special and it's only for the plebes or the masses out there that these things will be charged to.
02:38:52.000Well, Jack, I heard you say 99% are good, and I'll say 80% mean well, and then get twisted, some of them.
02:38:59.000But I gotta tell you, 20% of these guys, I mean, these guys, I mean, I've seen cops I've seen them at the gym with their shirts off, in the locker room with swastikas, black power.
02:39:15.000I've seen them with shaved heads on steroids, crazed, satanic tattoos.
02:39:22.000I won't even hardly go downtown on 6th Street anymore to eat dinner.
02:39:25.000The other areas are okay, because I've had Roydhead cops, you know, want to see my girlfriend.
02:39:30.000Back when, you know, my wife was my girlfriend's ID.
02:39:32.000You know, it's all about intimidation.
02:39:35.000I knew punk Roydheads who were bouncers who are now cops.
02:39:39.000So, so, I mean, when we protect evil police, doesn't that make criminals start to gravitate towards you?
02:39:44.000That's absolutely right, and the problem is, Alex, that the top criminals in law enforcement get promoted.
02:39:52.000You know, our police chief was an absolutely evil man, and also he was suspected of a murder, and of course nothing was done to him, but I mean, once you have a system set up In this humanist system of the end justifies the means political philosophy.
02:40:10.000Oh, by the way, this Stafford book, The Big Police Chief, he talks about police chiefs murdering.
02:40:16.000And so you have the gravitation of the most evil people to the top because the evil leadership of the nation, this international crime cabal, wants the most evil people at the top because they can trust them to do anything they're told to do.
02:40:33.000You know, Jack, I think what's really waking police up is they know now that the government ships in the drugs.
02:40:39.000And then when the idiot kids get it, the cops bust them and put them in a private prison, working for 15, 20 cents an hour.
02:40:46.000I talk to cops and they know where the drugs come from, Jack.
02:40:53.000This is a time of awakening right now for the private sector.
02:40:57.000And as we've found with our two police military associations, also with our police and military today, a great awakening is happening.
02:41:05.000But what do you want to say to those out there, law enforcement, peace officers, what do you want to say to them and any other areas of this great article that you wanted to talk about?
02:41:15.000Well, the most important thing that we teach here and preach here at our two police and military associations is that It is time now to stand up.
02:41:48.000Stay in there and be the salt in the light.
02:41:51.000Because many occasions I was on the scene when officers were going to get together and do something wrong to do a attitude adjustment alongside the road or something like that.
02:42:02.000Somebody that was a Christian patriot or something said, what's your reason for stopping me?
02:42:25.000And I said, brother, you should have stayed in there.
02:42:29.000If you don't stay in there, then all we're going to have is the rascals, the scallywags in there.
02:42:34.000So, we tell them to stay in there and shove their face in all this immorality and unlawfulness.
02:42:41.000Well, Jack, I've always found in business, in life, in the radio business, anywhere, at first when you stand up you get ridiculed and you get persecuted.
02:42:49.000But I've always found when you stand up and are the good guy, they secretly respect you and then you actually get allies you didn't expect.
02:42:57.000Well, that happened to me, but I didn't have many.
02:43:01.000I had very good friends that I thought were very good friends for years that wouldn't even be seen passing me in the hall.
02:43:08.000When I'd start down the hall, they'd run into a room someplace because I was so hated because I wouldn't accept any moral and lawful orders anymore.
02:43:17.000And would snitch off anybody that would, so it's tough, but after all... Oh yeah, that's gang mentality too.
02:43:30.000Well, it was a good cop in Midland, Texas, when the SWAT teams went in the house, the guys unarmed, the SWAT teams shoot each other, kill one of their own officers, shoot another, shoot the innocent man, they tried to frame him, and one of the cops that responded said, I'm not going to lie about this.
02:43:46.000Well stay in those departments and make those officers behave.
02:43:49.000Padilla with the broom handle for two hours, folks, because they thought he hit a cop.
02:43:57.000Turned out surveillance cameras showed it wasn't him at this bar.
02:43:59.000The point is a good cop blew the whistle there.
02:44:02.000I mean, folks, you've got to say no to this.
02:44:05.000Well, stay in those departments and make those officers behave.
02:44:09.000They'll hate you, but there will be those behind your back that will respect you tremendously.
02:44:15.000And, of course, I always remind our fellow officers and soldiers that God is watching and taking very good notes.
02:44:32.000Well, they're going to pay their dues if they're not on the side of righteousness, so I believe in the near future you're going to pay some heavy dues for being on the wrong side.
02:44:39.000Well, Jack, you always talk about near future or when you die, and I believe in all that, but my experience in life is, Jack, when I do something wrong, it always comes back many-fold.
02:44:52.000I have my conscience, but sometimes I'm thinking about doing something, and I think, man, every time I've done something bad, it always comes back many fold.
02:44:59.000Yes, I wish you and I could tell those stories.
02:45:02.000I have so many in law enforcement where that very thing happened when an officer did something wrong, and he'd think it was for the greater good or something, boy, would he pay a price for it.
02:45:12.000So that is still showing that God's on his throne, and you're not going to get away with these things.
02:45:18.000If you're not brought up on this earth and prosecuted for the things you do, or persecuted, or brought down, then you're certainly going to get it later.
02:45:43.000Yeah, I just wanted to also say, when you debate him, don't forget to mention the controlled demolitions, because that's the crux of the matter.
02:45:52.000Everything else is... Sir, I appreciate your call.
02:47:36.000But there's so... Jack, you can answer that question, can't you?
02:47:39.000Well I have so many friends that are in prison and who have been people like me and you Alex but I always just you and I Alex I know how you deal with it you just can't take the time to worry because You and I are more scared not standing up for what we see coming than standing up.
02:47:58.000And God says we should fear God and not man, you know?
02:48:03.000So we have to go forward and we can't do that if we're fearful all the time and just believe in the Lord that if He wants us to be successful and do His will, He's going to protect us.
02:48:15.000That doesn't mean I don't carry something with me all the time.
02:48:18.000I'm out there to protect myself, because I do.
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02:53:41.000But you played Ron Paul's 888-322-1414 showing how peacekeeping troops will be expanded under this bill to be used to take out any government dissenters.
02:53:54.000So it's very important that we get on this bill and make them know that we want Ron Paul's amendment to the Justice State Appropriations Bill to get us out of the United Nations.
02:54:04.000Please defeat the United Nations Reform Act of 2005, H.R.
02:55:30.000I mean, a lot of bad stuff's happening.
02:55:31.000I'm not saying we're winning, but at least we're in the fight.
02:55:34.000Hey, and I tell you Alex, I keep telling people that God never needed the majority of his people to come back to him before he would save the land.