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00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:25.000Alright, we'll be going to your calls early in this first hour.
00:00:30.000It is Friday, already the 19th day of August 2005.
00:00:34.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:00:39.000We've had him on several times in the last few months just because he's a great political mind and has done so much to expose the New World Order's orchestration of September 11th.
00:00:51.000Professor David Ray Griffin will be on with us in the second hour for the full hour.
00:00:56.000Then in the third hour, I haven't had her on probably about a year, Catherine Albrecht of Caspian, of course a doctorate there from Harvard, exposing the RFID tracker chips, and she's been following, and thank God somebody's paying attention to,
00:01:14.000Tommy Thompson, the former Health and Human Services Secretary and former Republican Governor from Wisconsin, the cheese eater, the cheese head, who is running around telling people get microchips, going to schools, going on TV, get the chip, it's normal, just take it, it's so easy.
00:01:34.000He even clicks his heels and says get chip today.
00:01:37.000Now their little motto that they've trademarked, so very Bizarro.
00:02:13.000I mean, look folks, the bizarreness is here!
00:02:18.000I use this example all the time, but it's like a twenty, you know, twenty years ago, ten years ago, some late-night science fiction B-movie, you know.
00:02:26.000In the nightmare future, the government controls everything.
00:03:14.000And you'll see a lot of people, the government will say, look you can still have your Lexuses, you can still have your million dollar houses, and your Bimbos, and all of it, you just gotta take the chip.
00:03:25.000If we say you gotta take these pills, because you're a little upset, and don't say you're not mentally ill, or that shows you're mentally ill, that is one of the new mental illnesses they've come out with.
00:03:36.000If you say you're not ill, you're ill.
00:03:54.000You know, it's kind of like the enemy's invaded the village and they're kind of rounding us up right now and people are going, should we fight back?
00:05:02.000Hey folks, Alex Jones here, announcing the release of my most comprehensive documentary exposing the New World Order's orchestration of the September 11th attacks yet.
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00:08:21.000Guatemala troops tied to border drug war.
00:08:25.000San Antonio Express News, we mentioned that yesterday.
00:08:29.000It's posted on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:08:33.000Now again, we told you, the former death squads have been moved to Iraq and to the Texas areas of the United States, other areas of the Southwest.
00:08:44.000I don't care how crazy it sounds, this is the intelligence, this is the mainstream news articles in our state, and no one outside the states, maybe Nevada, Texas, Arizona, is even aware of this.
00:08:58.000There is a total national news blackout.
00:09:02.000Bazooka attacks, rocket attacks, 600 plus dead this year on both sides, car bombs, total bedlam, dead police everywhere, And it just kept quiet.
00:09:15.000I mean, when they kill a cop, it's just, okay, another cop died.
00:09:17.000But boy, I tell you, if just a general citizen kills a cop, it's endless crying and weeping and freaking out and, you know, thousands of police taking off work and going to giant funerals.
00:09:30.000But when a cop gets killed by a CIA-controlled Latin American hit gang, it doesn't get word one.
00:09:41.000I mean, I could not stress how serious this is.
00:09:45.000Schwarzenegger urged to declare border emergency on the heels of the governor of Arizona and the governor of New Mexico, Napolitano and Richardson, respectively.
00:09:56.000Rick Perry has been challenged, our little pixie governor.
00:10:01.000He has been challenged to declare an emergency.
00:10:15.000Why, just a couple years ago, I bullhorned Vicente Fox when he came up to Tejas.
00:10:21.000They had to shut down their press conference.
00:10:23.000He was giving a Perry Awards, Wells Fargo Awards, and the APD, Austin Police Department, for not following federal law and legalizing illegals by fiat.
00:10:35.000They even give public awards for these lawbreakers.
00:10:51.000It is a tragic event, but, you know, 55 people die every week in England on the roads, and they just fear-monger it until you're all shaking in your boots.
00:10:59.000You're not ready to open your veins up if it'll keep you safe from the new world order.
00:11:03.000Meanwhile, again, we have an actual It's like the two wars we've had with Mexico, basically, but our own government's orchestrating it, using these troops against their competitors in the narcotics trade.
00:11:15.000I mean, there's an actual war going on, like Sierra Leone, or something along those lines the last few years, or the civil war going on in Macedonia.
00:11:25.000I mean, it's that big, folks, but not a word.
00:11:29.000Congresswoman pushed for women in combat, And as usual, the Democrats, along with Bush, want to put women in front-line combat.
00:11:43.000But it's part of their hunger to draft women as well as men when that starts.
00:11:48.000And they package it in liberal packaging.
00:11:51.000You know, all these TV shows about the future, you know, always women are the most powerful leaders and the best fighter pilots and the best commandos beating up men.
00:12:02.000Even if that was true, why should we, which it isn't of course, why should we militarize women?
00:12:07.000Why should we turn them into patriarchal individuals?
00:12:24.000But that's why Bush tried to take Private Lynch, who actually cowered in fear,
00:12:28.000It was a hispanic-american who actually valiantly fought against overwhelming odds and was killed and stabbed to death by the uh... shot a bunch and finally stabbed to death by the iraqis and they just stripped him of his honors not that in the aggregate they really are honors but he did defend his friends which is honorable and they just stripped him of it and gave it to her and then she said it's all lies I coward and fear on both occasions but again they want that poster child I say put him in frontline combat
00:12:58.000You know, let's ship the little girls home dead in these boxes.
00:13:06.000And, uh, let's, uh, of course the Pentagon won't let you see the coffins, all part of the freedom.
00:13:11.000But I think, I think, uh, having our women kidnapped, and having our women killed, and having our women beheaded, that'll really end this war quickly.
00:13:18.000Of course, I'm being sarcastic, folks.
00:13:21.000It's just, they want women to be enslaved, to be involved in the press gangs, It goes back to the British, folks.
00:13:29.000They wanted slaves for ships in their different wars against the Frenchies and others, and against the Spanish and others.
00:13:37.000They would just simply pull up in your town and run around grabbing your ten-year-old children off the street.
00:13:43.000Of course, they couldn't grab your little girls, but not anymore, folks.
00:13:52.000Oh, women, you'll have the wonderful right of being conscripted and shipped off.
00:13:58.000You know, you go to trendy restaurants, you go to trendy barbershops, and they've got these same-sex restrooms.
00:14:07.000Again, it's all part of social engineering.
00:14:09.000I don't want to go to the bathroom next to a woman.
00:14:14.000I mean, I'm what you call someone of a macho person, but I still don't enjoy, you know, in some of these primitive areas out in the middle of nowhere, these national parks, where you're sitting on the commode without a barrier right next to, you know, another man.
00:14:29.000Well, folks, they got them in the military now, where you're... I mean, I hate to get graphic here, but you're right next to a woman!
00:14:36.000I mean, there's something called privacy, folks.
00:14:39.000But again, they want to drum out of this our normal family structures.
00:14:44.000Because, look, do you think predators like it when a group of rhinoceros, rhinoceri, circle themselves around their calves?
00:14:55.000Do you think they like it when elephants circle around their babies?
00:15:00.000Do you think predators like it when wildebeests circle, or when buffaloes circle, or when... Do you think wolves like it when the cows circle around their young?
00:15:10.000They're just engineering it where we don't circle.
00:15:15.000That's why they're celebrating the fact that the two-parent family is basically a huge minority now in America.
00:15:23.000And if they admit that single parent homes are five times more likely to engage in crime or end up in prison, I'm not saying there aren't a lot of single parents who are heroes, who are wonderful people.
00:15:35.000I'm saying statistically, the government knows that it ends up the child being a ward of the state, and that's what they're trying to push.
00:16:00.000And so now we've dominated the planet, and so we've set up a system where we feed on our own species.
00:16:05.000We have the predator class and the non-predator class.
00:16:08.000It's not supposed to work like that, but most human civilization is set up along those lines.
00:16:12.000But now they literally are getting ready to, you know, feed upon us with the biotech and the rest of it.
00:16:19.000And so they're just engineering us to be more docile, like you breed a breed of dog to be more docile, or you breed a breed of bovine, of cow, to be more docile so you can slaughter it when you wish, or a breed of pig.
00:16:37.000uh... to do this and uh... they're they're actually they even have handbooks on how to dumb us down how to break us up and that's in nineteen eighty four how to break up the family i mean it's just simple one oh one i'm not saying you're bad if you don't have a family i'm not saying you're bad if you're a single mother or father uh... i know what you're under you've got the odds stacked against you so gut up realize the threat and defend your family
00:17:04.000At least the baby rhinoceros has one big enough rhinoceros to protect it.
00:17:10.000It doesn't mean you can't drive them off.
00:17:12.000Single parent families can team up with other single parent families and have little communities.
00:17:18.000You can be friends with double parent families.
00:17:22.000Double parent families should adopt a family in your area, not through some agency.
00:17:30.000But yourselves, just do it unofficially.
00:17:33.000We've all got to defend each other against this.
00:17:35.000We've got to learn to rally together against the globalists.
00:17:39.000Okay, I've gotten through four articles and we're already 17 minutes in.
00:17:44.000People keep emailing me and stopping me in the hall of the TV station last night and coming up to me and saying, Alex, why aren't you talking about how it's now admitted that this poor Brazilian man Didn't run from them.
00:18:54.000And again, I'm just going off The indicators we've got either saw something he wasn't supposed to, or he was in their employ, or he knew something and he had to be killed.
00:19:03.000And these special forces attached to the armed police went in there and executed him.
00:19:10.000So, and the police chief tried to shut down the investigation and lied about it.
00:19:16.000Sir Ian Blair, no relation to Tony Blair, no relation to Eric Blair, but it's that simple.
00:19:26.000And so something's rotten in the state of Denmark and we've already covered this.
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00:24:33.000But continuing with the news, FBI investigating local Homeland Security arrest, and we'll play a clip concerning this later as well, said the Associated Press, allegations that as many as six federal Homeland Security deportation agents assaulted and tortured a Nigerian man who was shackled at Oklahoma City's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Office are being investigated by the FBI according to published reports.
00:25:00.000Now again, the FBI Engages in many more forms of torture and corruption, in many cases, than your major police departments.
00:25:10.000But then when they catch police departments doing it, they will come in and put them, quote, on probation, and then next time they get in trouble, they basically federalize the police department.
00:27:06.000So, you know, we whine and scream about the Iraqis getting tortured, which is bad.
00:27:10.000And you know, General Myers, the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, comes out and says, we're not torturing people, but don't release the thousands of photos and videos, because it will cause riots.
00:27:18.000And the Army's seen the photos, they've written a report on them, raping women and children, beating people to death.
00:27:26.000But it's not torture, no, just killing people.
00:27:55.000So since you've already chopped off two of your fingers because you stuck them in the garbage disposal, you're going to continue the sacrifice.
00:28:02.000You know, you dropped your wedding ring in there and turned on the garbage disposal and stuck your hand in it.
00:28:06.000Instead of turning it off, And then assessing the situation, you're going to go ahead and stick your hand in.
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00:33:38.000The George Soros crowd is now taking full control Of course, he's been scooping all the big Air America national outfits, and so he's not going back to Phoenix.
00:33:49.000He's a Libertarian, and they're kind of sending in the libs.
00:33:54.000And I was out there, and it was pretty annoying to have all these nice people against the war, conservatives, liberals, it doesn't matter.
00:34:00.000And then you had like little nipping at your heels, little control freaks that were very upset that I and others were there.
00:34:07.000And this is how the globalists control things.
00:34:09.000They have control arms that control the right and control the left.
00:34:13.000And of course, I didn't mention it earlier because a lot of this news frankly dwarfs it, but Cindy, of course you know her mother had a stroke out in California, so she's gone out there and we don't know when she's coming back.
00:34:25.000And Bush is only out there for another week and a half or so.
00:34:29.000But to kind of give us a final report out there at Camp Casey is, of course, Ernest Hancock.
00:34:40.000Well, the main thing, to zip it in a summary here, is that We have, the anti-war movement is really growing, and it's just mom, pa, and people, and regular, they're very against this war.
00:34:51.000And a bunch of communists want to hijack it.
00:34:53.000Yeah, see, that creates a movement, that creates a bunch of television cameras pointing somewhere, and then everybody wants to jump in front of that camera.
00:35:01.000And boy, these people are aggressive, I mean, they will just command you what to do, they'll try to keep the media from talking to you.
00:35:09.000Well, I'll tell you what's really going on, I hate to Put names and groups and things to it, but what is definitely happening is the left is in force and they're showing up in mass numbers there.
00:35:23.000And they'll make sure, as government agents, to blow it, make it look bad, and then the media will get what they want.
00:35:32.000I mean, you don't really know what's going on other than Cindy herself, I think, has been pretty good about keeping, you know, separate from the fight.
00:35:39.000Her going back to visit with her mother may be a good thing for her and maybe even the movement, but there are definite forces that are on the... See, from a libertarian perspective, I see someone that wants to economically and socially control me from the left to the right as part of the same thing.
00:35:56.000It's not any different, in my opinion.
00:35:58.000Here we have a lot of the left has come in and moved in and are part of the infrastructure behind the scenes to get the organ.
00:36:27.000I went to Waco to go to the McClellan Sheriff's Department, talk to the PR guy there to find out why he was arrested, you know, what charges, who was he, that kind of stuff.
00:36:37.000And when I came back to Camp Casey or the House of Peace there and talked to some of the bloggers, I asked them, I go, what do you guys know about it?
00:36:44.000I got the Sheriff working on it, getting a report and all this.
00:36:46.000And they go, oh, we're not talking about that.
00:36:51.000Of course I'm going to, you know, ask, why do you guys care?
00:36:54.000And what happened was most of the people there didn't know about it.
00:36:58.000You had the mass media and television and everything reporting on this happening and a lot of the people that were there didn't know and they were asking me and some of the controllers there that were trying to, I don't know what they were trying to do, they were upset that I even brought it up.
00:37:35.000What happened was at about 1231 at night... Sounds like he probably criticized some leftists, and I didn't like it.
00:37:41.000Yeah, I know there was, you know, Al's quit it, Al's quit it.
00:37:44.000For whatever reason, it was in the minds of the local sheriffs to haul him in and tow his car.
00:37:50.000But the eyewitnesses to what was going on was just, he was abusive and he didn't seem like he was all balanced and there, I mean, you know... So because the guy shot his mouth off a little, they had him arrested and now they're trying to cover it up?
00:38:08.000Well, you know, you'd go out there and... I don't know, Alex, I really don't.
00:38:12.000Well, they're a little paranoid, too, because they've had people running over crosses and everything else.
00:38:16.000Well, see, the thing is, is just by what frightened me was asking the question, you know, to want to find out, to want to know, and then controlling that kind of flow.
00:38:28.000I talked to the ABC guy yesterday, a national life team member named Jeff Moss, something, And he was, a few days ago, it was Sunday or Monday I think it was, he was really pressing on Cindy in this big press conference, are we keeping it focused?
00:38:44.000Are you going to get back to the issue?
00:38:45.000And at first I thought he was being kind of abusive, But then I started to realize, I talked to him yesterday, and I started to realize what was going on.
00:38:53.000He was doing Cindy a favor, and I think Cindy appreciated it, because all these other issues start trying to jump on it, and it was distracting from why she was there, and it was to help her get it back on focus.
00:39:11.000And, you know, and they kind of brought it back.
00:39:14.000And while talking to him, he's like, yeah, from the beginning there's been all these liberal organizations in the far left that has hijacked the Democratic Party, because the Democratic Party doesn't really exist anymore.
00:39:25.000Yeah, what they're doing is they're distracting everybody off of the central issues of the war, and then basically dancing around in communist outfits, making everybody look bad.
00:39:35.000Well, Ernest, thank you for all your reports, and folks can check out those blogs.
00:39:39.000They're at acroforderbus.com, and take care, my friend.
00:45:06.000I was being interviewed by Conspiracy Zone and Another, and I'm out there, and I remember in my hotel room, eating room service, watching him admit they're torturing people.
00:45:17.000This is back when they thought they had everybody warped.
00:45:20.000And now the law enforcement magazines promote torture, 24 promotes torture, Threat Matrix promotes torture, CSI, CSI Miami promotes it, NYPD blew all these shows, you know, LA Law, Every episode, I mean literally, it's how torture is so wonderful.
00:45:36.000You see, they're selling you on their mentality.
00:46:01.000And see, a really smart serial killer becomes a government official, like this piece of garbage.
00:46:06.000Like this piece of filth, Dennis Reiter, who really is a shell for a demon.
00:46:14.000I mean, this literally is the dark side, coming across the void and feeding.
00:46:21.000And then a lot of these killers, a lot of these killers are running the quote, you know, anti-child porn rings.
00:46:27.000And then, see, they go out and raid innocent people that, you know, kiss their two-month-old baby on the stomach and get it printed at Eckerd's.
00:46:35.000Meanwhile, the people that are raiding those folks, and we have the intel on this, most of them, see, they're in a place where they can have all this stuff, do it, be around it, and then persecute innocent people.
00:46:46.000And, see, it's the same thing with these preachers and the government and just all of this scum, folks.
00:46:53.000Well, I mean, you know, it's come out of the Miami Herald and others that the top, you know, head person over the computer systems, and still didn't get in trouble, is a convicted brutal child rapist running the computers.
00:47:04.000And what, like a third of the top people in the CPS in Florida, it turned out, were convicted child rapists.
00:47:09.000See, they gravitate to where they get government power.
00:47:14.000And again, most people, two-thirds or plus, who are police and, you know, who are government officials, aren't evil.
00:47:20.000They had a compulsion to serve, Or maybe they wanted an adventure, or maybe they were just attracted to the uniform or whatever, but they're not bad.
00:47:29.000But still, you need to know who you're sitting next to.
00:47:31.000And by the way, the really deep criminology, the master's degrees in criminology, and I haven't taken that level of criminology, but I've read a lot of the textbooks, actually admit all of this.
00:48:27.000Families of the BTK victims have been warned by prosecutors in recent weeks that police testimony would be difficult to bear.
00:48:34.000What detectives revealed through graphic crime scene and autopsy photos and volumes of evidence from the killer himself was the disturbing depth of cruelty and depravity behind Dennis Rader's murderous spree.
00:48:46.000Did it appear to you that he seemed to be extremely proud of what he had done?
00:48:50.000Yes, it was very matter-of-fact and He used the animation and also drawing pictures to help illustrate the details.
00:48:59.000Raider once took the body of one of his victims to his church.
00:49:03.000Detectives described how he became more confident and bolder in time, torturing his victims by strangling them and reviving them to prolong their terror.
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00:54:03.000Alright folks, we're going to go to future calls, that and others in a second, but I could talk for hours about the BTK killer, because the piece of trash, who should be executed by the way, taunted the police.
00:54:22.000He started mailing letters to newspapers, photos of people he'd killed, When they finally caught him, he had thousands of cards and index cards, and you know, he was just totally obsessed with power and killing and torture.
00:54:36.000And of course it was tied to sexual activities, just like the torture at Camp X-Ray, the torture at Abu Ghraib, it's all sexual.
00:55:22.000And it's just like the globalists will tell you in four or five movies exactly what they'll do before they do it.
00:55:28.000And we even have the people involved in the X-Files Lone Gunman episode.
00:55:33.000Who said they were approached by Central Intelligence, almost a year before 9-11, to have this scenario of flying a hijacked jet into the World Trade Center, to blame it on Afghanistan and invade them, to be covered by a drill.
00:55:47.000A TV show where it's covered by a drill, the government runs a drill, so that other parts of the government don't know what's happening, and they do this to be able to invade a foreign country and blame it on them.
00:55:58.000And again, there were like four other movies and ads that defense contractors would run.
00:56:47.000We had the doctors on, the ship's doctor, from the USS Liberty on, highly decorated, shot and shrapneled and leg broken, kneecap broken, still taking care of everybody, and he said the thought came in his mind to just hide in the corner with all his wounds, but then he just He really felt the presence of God and forced down his fear.
00:57:55.000You also brought up Greg Simanski from the American Free Press newspaper.
00:57:59.000And I found that very interesting, and that's what I want to get to about Some of the things he, I'm just surmising here, said concerning this General Burns that you guys talked about a little bit.
00:58:10.000Must have shocked, generally, the neocon audience of some of the Fox listeners, but I hear that music.
00:58:18.000Well, I got David Ray Griffin coming up, but what I'll do is, this will all concern 9-11, so you want to hold?
00:58:25.000You'll be the first caller for Griffin.
00:59:30.000And then we're back, of course, from 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.
00:59:37.000We are joined in this hour by Professor David Ray Griffin, also author of several extremely powerful books.
00:59:44.000I've had him on several times now, but I had a chance a few weeks ago to read his essay, and we have it posted on InfoWars.com, the 9-11 Commission Report, a 571-page lie.
00:59:56.000And he talks about how it was hard to chronicle all of them, and really how he thought that he should have titled his 9-11 book, the 9-11 Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions, that he should have just called it a 571-page lie.
01:00:14.000He's kind of feeling sad about that, and I understand.
01:00:18.000It's hard to state just how bad all this is.
01:01:09.000More and more people are just coming out with it.
01:01:12.000Yeah, no, Ray told me that after he read the first book, it certainly made him suspicious, but it didn't push him over.
01:01:20.000But then when he read the second book and saw to what extremes they had to go,
01:01:29.000to uh... protect defend the official story he said that uh... that pushed him over to think that uh... it had to be an inside job yeah we've got video interviews with him going up on the website today and a part two next week for PrisonPlanet.tv members but a lot of this will be on the side for everybody it's so important but uh... i mean we've got the former uh... number two at treasury Paul Craig Roberts we've got going public we've got
01:01:58.000Now, of course, Morgan Reynolds, number one economist, Department of Labor, I mean, they've got a big problem, Professor.
01:02:06.000It does seem to be unraveling, and that's the term that Justin Raimondo used the other day, that, you know, he's not necessarily ready to go this far, but he's seen enough, just from mainstream news sources to say that the government story about 9-11 is unraveling.
01:02:29.000Yeah, now all of his little libertarian followers that parrot whatever he says will have to change their orthodoxy.
01:02:35.000Perhaps the earth is not the center of the universe.
01:02:41.000Yeah, it's rather remarkable how just in the last couple months lots of movement has occurred And one of the newest things, of course, is the release of the oral histories that the New York Times had to fight three years to get the city of New York to release.
01:03:20.000A colleague and I have gone through now about a fourth of the oral histories and we already see that the story about testimonies of explosions in the Twin Towers It's far stronger than anybody thought before.
01:03:36.000Bombs, bombs everywhere and Silverstein admits it, but no one goes to jail.
01:03:42.000We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
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01:07:23.000We are talking to Professor David Ray Griffin, who has done two scholarly works, two books, on 9-11 and clear evidence of certain elements of the government being involved in the attacks.
01:07:38.000That's the only thing the evidence shows, and for stations that don't carry that first five minutes, if you missed it... I just want to point something out.
01:07:47.000This weekend, last weekend, out at Camp Casey in Crawford, I interviewed Ray McGovern, who we've talked to several times on the air over the last three years.
01:07:56.000He's gone public on the eve of the war, and now after the war started, that it's all a total fraud, that it's manufactured evidence, that we're dealing with criminally insane individuals who literally are delusional in the White House.
01:08:14.000He was the chief briefer for Ronald Reagan, and then every morning, six days a week, for George Herbert Walker Bush.
01:08:24.000And, you know, six months ago I saw the quote in his text where he said, boy, 9-11 sure is suspicious, but as you heard David Ray Griffin say in the last segment, now he's saying, no, no, now the evidence is really, and he cites the second book by Griffin as really tying it together for him, and just the horrible manipulations of the 9-11 whitewash commission, the second one appointed by Bush, that it's got to be an inside job.
01:08:48.000I mean, when they come out and say there were no steel columns in the middle of Tower 1 and 2, when they had some of the biggest columns in the world, when they don't mention Building 7, when they just flagrantly... It's the equivalent of saying the sun didn't come up in the morning.
01:09:06.000Professor, now you're looking at the oral histories of these firefighters and others, which they tried to block.
01:09:12.000They did block a lot of it, but I guess they're lazy.
01:09:15.000In it, we found several instances of bombs, explosions, firefighters talking about this.
01:09:21.000Why, if the government didn't release all of it, why would they still release some of it, Professor?
01:09:27.000Well, they resisted, you know, for three years.
01:09:32.000It was finally the New York Court of Appeals that said there was a suit by the New York Times and several of the families of victims joined together in this suit.
01:09:45.000And it took a long time through the court system, but the highest court in the state of New York, the Court of Appeals, finally said earlier this month that they had to release most of the oral histories.
01:10:00.000But how on earth could the government claim it was going to aid Zacharias Moussaoui, who they still haven't gotten convicted of anything?
01:10:14.000And many people inside knew right away that that was phony, so in fact they changed their tune.
01:10:22.000Now let's not forget, first they claimed all the radios had malfunctioned, then the fire department got mad two years ago and released some of the tapes where they were talking about explosions and stuff, so I mean, we're getting lied to in just multi-faceted ways.
01:10:38.000Yeah, they tried to claim then that this would be a desecration of the dead to reveal this, and, you know, a breach of confidentiality and all of that.
01:10:50.000But the Court of Appeals obviously saw through that, evidently looked, you know, and said, well, here are a few things you can edit out.
01:11:01.000But what remains is pretty striking happening.
01:11:04.000Has anyone read any of these oral histories on your show?
01:11:08.000We have links to it on PrisonPlanet.com, but we've read small excerpts, but go ahead, Professor.
01:11:17.000Yeah, let me read one here, just sort of alphabetically.
01:11:21.000Firefighter Timothy Burke, He was seeing, you know, jumpers from the North Tower and flames in the South and wondering where the hell are the jets?
01:11:53.000So now we have it in, you know, eyewitness testimony, and he was saying, I was going, oh my god, there's a secondary device, because the way the building popped, I thought it was an explosion.
01:12:05.000And then another fellow, firefighter Edward Caccia, I think it's pronounced, he said it actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit.
01:12:17.000Well, we have eyewitnesses long before anything collapses with bombs going off in the basement.
01:12:24.000So, what some of us are doing now is putting together the old testimonies with the new ones and showing that there is now an extremely strong... Well, we shouldn't listen to the firefighters.
01:13:49.000No, that's right, and to support what you just said, the Assistant Commissioner of the New York Fire Department, Stephen Gregory, said, I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before number two came down, That I saw low-level flashes.
01:14:09.000In my conversations with another lieutenant, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building.
01:16:41.000It's just, oh, more eyewitnesses to bombs, more eyewitnesses to explosions, more eyewitnesses, you know, so I'm kind of desensitized.
01:16:47.000I haven't talked enough about this in the last few weeks as this came out, but Professor, what are they going to do just as everyone learns the truth?
01:16:54.000Is it just going to be like the Kennedy assassination where 90% of us know the truth but nobody gets in trouble?
01:17:00.000Well, certainly thus far, that's been the case.
01:17:04.000We're not up to 90% yet, but I think the percentages are pretty high.
01:17:10.000That Zogby poll in New York showed, you know, many months ago that New Yorkers were about 50% on board, at least for foreknowledge.
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01:23:39.000People like that who got, you know, thrown in jail because they would say the world was round and not flat.
01:23:49.000Uh, we're gonna be taking your calls coming up here in the next segment, 800-259-9231, but I wanted to introduce somebody else to the program just here briefly.
01:23:57.000He's the owner of Building 7, and on national TV, he had this to say.
01:24:18.000Then we watched the building collapse.
01:24:23.000And then later we have clips where they say, pull it means demolish, means controlled demolition.
01:24:31.000Let me ask Professor David O'Griffin two things.
01:24:33.000They've already had a flotilla, squadron after squadron, I mean like twelve shows explaining why the towers fell and lying to us like the commission.
01:24:43.000Now there's a whole other flotilla, two day specials to discredit the conspiracies, two day specials to tell you what the truth is.
01:24:53.000You're just adding oxygen to our fire, so thanks a lot.
01:24:58.000on National Geographic, on the Discovery Channel.
01:25:02.000Professor Griffin, number one, why are they being so blatant?
01:25:08.000And then number two, why did the military industrial complex or that small group that orchestrated this, why did they think they'd get away with it?
01:25:17.000Well, you know, I pretty much try to just stick to the evidence and not try to get inside other people's minds.
01:25:28.000I have no idea, you know, what this... Clearly, one would assume that the fact that so many new shows are coming out giving the orthodox view of 9-11 suggests that they're no longer just using strategy number one, which is to ignore us,
01:25:52.000So now they're thinking, well, they have to refute us, not directly, they would never mention us by name to dignify our allegations, but simply by putting a contrary story out there through which many people might say, well, you know, what Griffin and Jones and Tarpley and the others say isn't true, because here's what's true.
01:26:16.000So it'll certainly work with a lot of people, but people who have already Heard your shows and read our books.
01:26:24.000Will not be fooled and will hopefully inform their neighbors.
01:26:28.000But you know the media has already lost so much credibility.
01:26:31.000I think it will actually turn a lot of people on.
01:26:34.000Well it's possible and you know you're mentioning Ray McGovern is very important because he is such a good symbol here for a shift that has occurred
01:26:49.000Because these people who were, you know, members of the government, I mean, he was a member of the CIA, and he was a long-time analyst for the CIA, and he was one who had a reputation for great integrity, and so he expected when he said things that newspapers would pay attention
01:27:18.000And yet, when he revealed the existence of the Downing Street Memo, the newspapers did not pay attention, at least for a while.
01:27:29.000And furthermore, when he wrote a letter to the editor of the Washington Post, and he couldn't believe it, they turned it down.
01:27:37.000Well, I said, Ray, you know, those of us in the 9-11 movement, we've been used to this for a long time.
01:27:41.000We know that they will never publish any of our letters.
01:27:47.000So this was a revelation to a big segment of the people who did not realize how thoroughly the mainstream media would simply try to cover up a major scandal.
01:28:00.000And still, they've done it pretty well with the Downing Street Memo, when you realize the implications of that.
01:28:06.000Well, we don't talk about fake reporters and gay pleasure slaves in the White House.
01:28:14.000I mean, that's not even discussed now.
01:28:17.000Yeah, and so when you realize that this story that shows they intended to fix the intelligence prior to attacking Iraq, the fact that that is not a drumbeat on television to this day is a great indictment of the integrity of our mainstream media.
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01:32:10.000A great essay that Professor Dr. Gregory Griffin has written.
01:32:14.000The 9-1-1 Commission Report, a 571 page lie, is what he's saying.
01:32:22.000He probably should have termed the name of his new book, And we have it on Infowars.com, or just type in the 9-1-1 Commission Report, a 571 page lie, and it'll pop up for you on Google.
01:32:36.000In fact, I typed in a 571 page lie this morning when I was trying to find it again.
01:32:41.000It was a few weeks ago when I read it, and it popped up dozens of links right there to different places that have it.
01:32:50.000So what we'll do is, we'll get the professor to cover three or four big lies, then we'll take a few calls, cover three or four more.
01:32:58.000There's a hundred, so there's no way to cover them all.
01:33:01.000And again, that's just some of the lies.
01:33:03.000But I've said there are over 600 smoking guns that show government complicity.
01:33:09.000That is a criminal element of the government.
01:33:11.000But Professor, please give us a few of the lies.
01:33:14.000Well, let's start with Vice President Cheney's whereabouts that morning.
01:33:22.000The official story up till the 9-11 Commission report had been that Cheney had gone down to the underground bunker at about 9-15 and of course that's the Emergency Operations Center.
01:33:38.000And one problem arose then was that it appeared that Flight 93 had been shot down.
01:33:47.000So there was an enormous amount of evidence that it had been shot down at 10-03 or 10-06.
01:33:55.000And if Cheney was down there at 9-15, that gave him plenty of time to give the shoot-down order.
01:34:01.000And in fact, Richard Clark had said the shoot-down order came about 9-45 or 9-50, somewhere in there.
01:34:08.000We have a member of the Cabinet that was there, and Cheney said the order stands as all this was happening.
01:34:19.000Well, Mineta reinforced that old story, because he said he got to the White House at about 915, was told by Clark to go down to the underground bunker where Cheney was, and he got down there about 920, and Cheney was there and clearly in charge, and had been in charge for a while, because there was that ongoing conversation.
01:34:40.000But he didn't have any of the male escorts down there in the Situation Room.
01:34:46.000The 9-11 Commission, though, needed to deny that he could have given the order to shoot down Flight 93.
01:34:53.000So they ignored all the massive amount of evidence that that flight had been shot down.
01:34:59.000And they rested everything on this indirect argument, well, that Cheney couldn't have given the order in time because he didn't give the order until 10-10, and he didn't give the order until 10-10 because he didn't get down there until Almost 10 o'clock, they speculate, maybe 9.58.
01:35:16.000In other words, they lie by about 45 minutes in terms of what Norman Mineta had told them in open testimony.
01:35:28.000So in order to give their story, they had to suppress testimony.
01:35:38.000Another one of these is where they denied that FEMA was running Tripod 2 starting the day before and that the Kenney comment wasn't true.
01:35:45.000And then later, Giuliani gets up and says, and of course that gets exposed too, gets up and says, oh no, there was a Tripod 2.
01:35:54.000And I know that's totally separate, it's just that they can't seem to get all their lies straight.
01:36:01.000Yeah, sometimes they contradict themselves, such as when they, in one place, Tell us that Honey Honjour was a terrible pilot.
01:36:12.000Whereas then in another place they say they chose him to fly the plane into the Pentagon because that was going to be a difficult flight and they wanted their most experienced pilot.
01:36:26.000But he couldn't get a Cessna off the ground.
01:36:39.000My other favorite is the one that you alluded to earlier.
01:36:43.000You know, of all the issues about the collapse of the Twin Towers, the overwhelming one is the fact that it was a total collapse that resulted in a pile of only a few stories high, reducing these 110-story buildings.
01:37:01.000And their crucial dimension, of course, was these 47 Massive steel columns that constituted the core of each tower.
01:37:11.000And there's no conceivable way that the pancake theory could explain why those steel columns would have been broken into small pieces.
01:37:22.000You know, fire does not break steel into And for those that don't understand what we're saying, you use the great example of the old 45 records, where you have the spindle sticking up, and as they played, they'd drop down.
01:37:35.000I mean, you know, similar construction, not even as beefy.
01:37:40.000In Madrid, it burns for a day and a half with 100 foot white flames, and nothing collapses but some little roof metal and inch around.
01:37:48.000I mean, the main support's rock solid, not even any damage.
01:38:09.000From all that we can tell, but of course, as you say, part of the problem was, and again, the 9-11 Commission doesn't breathe a word of this, that the steel was quickly removed and sold to A junk dealer who put it on a ship, put it on ships to Asia where it would be melted down.
01:38:28.000And they told him, they said, you do not stop for anything in this long hour and a half drive out to the docks.
01:38:34.000And they had armed guards there guarding it.
01:38:51.000So the big lie here, I love quoting this statement, which is that the core of each tower consisted of a hollow steel shaft.
01:39:03.000So they, as you say, just simply denied the existence of the most outstanding feature of the towers.
01:39:10.000And you know, Napoleon didn't exist either.
01:39:14.000It's just, it's beyond belief, the level of lies.
01:39:18.000You know, I've noticed now that even these White of the Towers fall and all these shows on NOVA and all that, they repeat that lie!
01:39:26.000The building was shoddy, an absolute piece of junk, nothing was supporting it.
01:39:30.000But then I have that big 10-hour series, I bought it, New York for PBS, and they show the central columns and talk about the incredible strength and how it was built to take multiple jet crashes, and look at the size of those pillars!
01:39:48.000Yeah, so, you know, as long as they're talking to people who don't know the evidence, They can convince them, but the more that people listen to your show and see your videos and read our books, the more people will know that they're just lying through their teeth.
01:40:09.000What are some of the lies that even very informed listeners or myself may not be aware of that you've uncovered in your scholarly research?
01:40:19.000Yeah, well I distinguish between lies of omission as well as lies of distortion.
01:40:25.000So you have those explicit lies like the time Cheney went down and the denial of the columns.
01:40:43.000Do you have in this... I mean, I've read the essay, but I read it a few weeks ago, so I don't remember.
01:40:47.000Do you have in there where Rice says, we never got a warning, never heard of this, but she had the exact memo determined to attack flight planes in the buildings days before?
01:40:57.000I mean, that's one of the kinds of lies, the lies of of rather explicit specific foreknowledge.
01:41:07.000Give us some of the little manipulative spin lies.
01:41:11.000Yeah, well, one that I love is the, because I think it's so crucial, when people ask me what are the big four or big five points, I always refer, and I know you've talked about it a lot, but one can't talk about it too much, the way the Secret Service did not Quisk Bush out of the school in Sarasota as soon as they knew, given the official story, that the country was under terrorist attack.
01:41:41.000Because they have very explicit orders, the Secret Service, that whenever there is any sign of danger to the President, they are to take him away to a previously unknown Now this is the default setting.
01:41:57.000Like when you turn your computer on, it launches Windows.
01:42:00.000You don't have to tell your computer to launch the Windows program.
01:42:09.000Even the President is not to know where... And here he was in this school where they had advertised his presence there for several days in advance.
01:42:21.000Besides not taking him immediately out of the school to an undisclosed location, they left him there for another half hour at least, and allowed him to go on national television where in effect he was saying, here I am, terrorist, crash one of your airplanes into the school here and you can kill the President of the United States, not to mention all these children.
01:42:45.000Or if there's some ground hit team of 50 crazed Arabs, No, I mean, folks, if there is anything going on, they will cancel, they will drag him out.
01:43:07.000It's only the head of the detail that has to know what to do, and they all obey him.
01:43:13.000And so the crucial thing here in regard to the 9-11 Commission report is how they handled this.
01:43:18.000You would have thought And if this were a serious commission, they would have been all over the Secret Service.
01:43:26.000One of the recommendations would be that the head of the Secret Service would have been fired, if not, you know, put in prison for dereliction of duty.
01:43:36.000And yet, what they said, they just asked him, well, why didn't you remove the President?
01:43:42.000And the guy says, well, we didn't think it was necessary to run him out of the room.
01:43:50.000I mean, he could have walked a foot a minute and gotten out of there.
01:43:55.000Yeah, nobody suggested, well, you know, maybe there was something in between leaving him there for another 40 minutes and running him out of the room, like you could have walked him out of the room fairly quickly into the car.
01:45:12.000And this is the other thing, of course, I've harped on a lot, and I stress that we really had here the White House investigating itself because The investigation was run, insofar as you can even call it an investigation, by Philip Zelikow, and Zelikow is a member of the Bush administration.
01:45:36.000How do you call an independent if you appoint them?
01:45:39.000Yeah, and somebody who has worked closely with Condoleezza Rice, co-authored a book with her, helped her make the transition into the new administration, And now is appointed with her in the State Department.
01:45:57.000Well, one of the chairmen is in business through a group with the Carlyle Group and thus the Bin Ladens.
01:46:04.000Yeah, and so this is why I call the report, really, instead of calling it just the Cain Report after the chairman, Thomas Cain, I call it the Cain-Zelikow Report because Well, you know this story, I've made the point before that I suspect that a lot of the commissioners didn't even really realize what they were signing on to when they signed the final document.
01:46:31.000They are probably going to be shocked like some of the members of the Warren Commission were later.
01:46:35.000Well, I gotta tell you, I saw them traveling around a few weeks ago, it was on C-SPAN, and they got confronted about The head of Pakistani intelligence wearing $100,000 to Muhammad Ata being at the Capitol that day.
01:46:46.000And let me tell you, that chairman, he knew, he looked like a cat caught with a canary in his mouth.
01:46:52.000He started panicking, just, OK, fine, fine!
01:46:54.000I mean, I don't know, David, I was pretty suspicious.
01:46:57.000Yeah, I just say, I mean, clearly they knew in general what they were doing.
01:47:02.000I'm just saying, I don't know if they knew all the details.
01:47:45.000I started to talk a little bit about Cindy Sheehan, and I made a point that you had told Foxy the other night, Ellen Combs, about Greg Simanski from the American Free Press newspaper, which also has done a lot of reportage on this, including a review of your book, Professor Griffith.
01:48:02.000Cindy Sheehan has been cited by your colleague Jeff Renz and the American Free Press Newspaper in Washington as having said that her son died for Israel, not America.
01:48:13.000And my tie-in point to this, Alex, is this.
01:48:17.000You've had Colonel Don DeGrand Prix, you've had talks with him.
01:48:20.000The fact is, General Burns Uh, obviously was, uh, as you told Alan Combs the other night, uh, General Burns may have foiled another 9-11 plot.
01:48:30.000He may be out as part of, uh, it's, uh, implied, uh, some kind of a coup, a brew.
01:48:36.000Colonel Don DeGrand Prix said this a couple years ago in the American Free Press newspaper.
01:48:40.000And when you tie this together, look at Larry Silverstein.
01:48:44.000His partner was from Israel, Frank Lowry, who had the retail portion of the Trade Center.
01:48:49.000When you put that together with what Cindy Sheehan is saying about Wolfowitz, Pearl, Doug Freith, Abrams, Henry Kissinger himself, who tried at first to hijack the 9-11 Commission... What's your question?
01:49:04.000In light of Colonel Dondogon, do you think... Colonel Dondogon, the priest, says the American foreign policy is in the death grip of the Israeli lobby.
01:49:13.000Well, I think definitely it's one of the most powerful lobbies, especially internationally.
01:49:17.000But, sir, I'll give you my answer, and then we'll come back and get Professor Griffin's comment.
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01:53:26.000But I'm told that one of my employees couldn't find it for David Ray Griffin, so it may have gotten Erased off my site, stuff like that happens when it's four years old.
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01:53:40.000And there's hundreds of thousands of documents on my website.
01:54:54.000Okay, what specific part are you looking for?
01:54:56.000The part where he first tells you That he had received information from these FBI agents that there were going to be attacks on lower Manhattan.
01:55:07.000Oh yeah, that's in my film, with him saying it.
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01:55:18.000To answer Ed's question, and I want to go to John and Mike at least, and we'll hold the Professor over just a few minutes so you can take your calls, but to answer the question about Israel for the caller, Well, what I would say there is, you know, the press has jumped all over Cindy Sheehan for suggesting that the war in Iraq was at least partly for the sake of Israel.
01:55:47.000Well, Philip Zelikow stated that in a public lecture, so if people are going to be critical, Of that, they should attack Zelikow.
01:56:01.000I mean, AIPAC is one of the biggest lobbies running around calling for Armageddon, so I don't know how they could deny that.
01:56:08.000Yeah, he was quoted as talking about a threat that dare not speak its name.
01:56:16.000He said that at least one of the prime motives behind the U.S.
01:56:20.000invasion of Iraq was the desire of the Bush administration to eliminate this threat But that they dare not speak its name because, quote, the American government doesn't want to lean too hard on it rhetorically because it is not a popular spell.
01:56:36.000So Cindy Sheehan is not saying anything outrageous.
01:56:41.000She could have been, you know, she was at least saying the same thing that Philip Delacalle had said.
01:56:55.000Yes, Alex, I support the tremendous work you and Mr. Griffin are doing on the 9-11 conspiracy, but I do have to say that an earlier comment you made earlier that I have a disagreement with, and I'll wait until after the... Okay, but it needs to be about... I mean, you can say whatever you want, I don't want to cut you short.
01:58:25.000Before, we're going to let John finish up and talk to Mike, the oldest scholars holding for Professor Griffin, but 9-11 Visibility Project September 11th.org spelled out is the website.
01:58:37.000They have his 9-11 Commission Report, a 571 page line.
01:59:03.000Well, I just wanted to say that it seems like the phony establishment liberals like Soros and Al Franken and the rest of them specialize in claiming that anyone who believes in these conspiracies behind 9/11 are to be barred from the anti-war movement Anyone who calls for withdrawal like Cindy Sheehan should.
01:59:21.000No, I agree, and now they're taking control of the operation at Crawford.
01:59:25.000Yeah, but I believe that those that are most open To these kinds of conspiracies, those who point out that these wars are not just an aberration of a jealous fit by Bush or any of these presidents, are the left, are the communists, are the socialists.
01:59:40.000They point out, I think, that this is the monopoly corporate connections to it, the military-industrial connections.
01:59:46.000They're the most open to the kinds of 9-11 conspiracies, so I see them as the most valuable ally rather than as some kind of... Okay, thanks for the call, John.
01:59:54.000I've got to let you go because I want to get what Mike did on.
02:00:08.000I called before, I'm a structural steel iron worker and welder, and when I talked to you before about the... Yeah, last time you called was when the professor was on.
02:00:19.000What I wanted to tell you is what initially got me investigating 9-11.
02:00:26.000was the fact that the columns that were left standing when the building fell looked like they were just snapped off like toothpicks and I challenge anyone to take a piece of steel not doctile iron or cast iron and snap it without it bending and one other thing a cover-up that everyone seems to have missed was in the middle of all that if you remember the local iron worker union
02:01:12.000I mean, one of the many scandals that should have been a drumbeat in the mainstream press was this removal of the seal because the fired engineering magazine and even the New York Times was saying this removal of evidence has to stop because normally you can't one of the many scandals that should have been a drumbeat in the mainstream press was this removal of the seal because the fired engineering magazine and even the New York Times was saying this removal of evidence has to stop because normally you can't remove a
02:01:50.000Well, in closing, Professor, aren't you worried that the military-industrial complex may carry out another attack?
02:01:56.000Because it seems like their agenda is stalling everywhere.
02:02:01.000Well, it's certainly a real danger, because that will distract us from all these concerns, and we've seen many cases before when there's an uncomfortable story going, then something It does happen that distracts us.
02:02:18.000And they still control mostly the media, so the media will just follow along.
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02:05:52.000You know, ten years ago on the radio, I would have retired Pentagon scientists on the air about the plans to implant the population with microchips.
02:06:11.000By 2000, I got an official Army document where they publicly called for it.
02:07:03.000And Catherine Albrecht, of course, for many years, first started out exposing The loyalty cards at grocery stores, what a scam that is!
02:07:13.000And now it's come out that when you buy a pizza, it goes through an NSA type upload to check for warrants, and the NCIC, instead of getting a pizza, you get a SWAT team.
02:07:22.000And Bush signs it with every prescription drug you get, whether, again, it's a diaphragm or ibuprofen, it's a prescription, instantly uploaded, no freedom, no Fourth Amendment, nope!
02:07:32.000Every cell phone tracks you down to a few feet, They want to put transponders in all the cars and in their license plates and inspection stickers.
02:07:42.000A bill almost passed in Texas this year to start it next year.
02:08:05.000And now, she's here to talk about the actual quotes of Tommy Thompson!
02:08:10.000She's got them on her website, and I've got CBS News, I've got a couple other articles where they've got his quotes, and some of them are even worse!
02:08:19.000We're here delving deep into the rabbit hole, into the Alice in Wonderland, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone dimension, and Catherine, good to have you on with us.
02:08:27.000Hey Alex, did you ever think we would get to the point where we're having a serious discussion about chip implants, and we've got a major ranking member of the Bush administration sitting there saying that we should put them in the military?
02:08:39.000Well, I mean, you know that when Bill O'Reilly says it, and you know that I've got Sean Hannity on video going, every child needs a chip, two years ago, I predict, well, you don't get into government-sponsored terror, but I know their agenda, and yes, I did think it would come to this, and what they'll have is a terrorist group who's against chips, and then see, if you won't take the chips, you're a terrorist, but go ahead.
02:09:04.000Well, you know, that terrorist group may just be the nation's Christians, which is what has me kind of astonished, is here you've got the Bush administration, you've got G.W.
02:09:12.000Bush not saying a word against this, And yet you've got this 2,000 year old prophecy straight out of the Bible saying there's going to be a market and a number needed to buy and sell and you've got the Christians getting a little nervous but not the ones in the administration.
02:09:31.000I did an interview with the 700 Club last year.
02:09:34.000They actually flew me down and we talked about the health effects of the varichip implant, which I think I talked to your listeners about a while back.
02:09:41.000I know you've got some information posted on your website at InfoWars.com about that.
02:09:47.000Yeah, they can explore, they can shift location, they can burn you from the inside out.
02:09:51.000If somebody sets off an EMP weapon, these things can literally become a molten mass of hot steaming metal and glass, singeing you from the inside of your body out.
02:10:01.000They're incompatible with MRI machines and they can shift location.
02:10:05.000I mean, there's really some very serious Very serious downsides to taking these implants and here you've actually got them being promoted as a positive medical device when you know all the research we've done and everything given the FDA has come out and said this is exactly dangerous.
02:11:24.000I've been following the RFID issue since 2002.
02:11:26.000And since that time, the Applied Digital folks, the Applied Digital Solutions people out of Florida that manufactured this Verichip, and now they're Verichip Corporation.
02:11:34.000Yeah, first they said they would never do this when their own documents showed it.
02:11:38.000And I'd have the Chief Scientist on, he'd say they would.
02:11:40.000I'd have the CEO on, he'd say that's ridiculous, we won't.
02:11:43.000And then now they're running around all over the place.
02:11:44.000You want to get in the VIP bar or you got to do it?
02:11:46.000Well, it's really extraordinary how they've kind of changed their story through the years.
02:11:50.000And of course, many people way back in, you know, 2001 kind of knew where they were going with it and what their plans were.
02:11:56.000And, you know, now here it is all out on the table.
02:11:59.000And then it turned out the Jacobsons really worked for him, the evil family that got the chips.
02:12:36.000Well, the piece I find really extraordinary about this is, you know, here's a company that's kind of been viewed as the black sheep of the RFID industry.
02:12:43.000I know that the folks who put together the consortium that wants to tag consumer products, you know, the folks from Walmart down to Procter & Gamble.
02:12:53.000Yeah, all of those folks have really tried to distance themselves from this company and really sort of looked down and said, oh no, you know, they're just a nothing company.
02:13:02.000Well, IBM doesn't distance themselves, lavishing them with cash.
02:13:05.000Yeah, well, you know, it's really made a shift and I think that's been the part that I find so significant.
02:13:10.000I mean, this company has been around touting human implants for a couple of years now, but what's really changed is in the last couple of months, bringing Tommy Thompson on board, getting some of this major media coverage, You know, I did an interview with BBC World Service just a week or two ago.
02:13:25.000And they actually, with a very straight face, said, will this help prevent things like the London Terrace Bombing?
02:14:29.000I know I'm going a little overboard here with you, but I'm just telling you how they operate.
02:14:32.000Well, I've got to tell you, at this point, Alex, very little would surprise me, since I've seen Tommy Thompson literally standing up there, you know, four-time governor of Wisconsin.
02:14:42.000He is... Well, that's how they're going to do it.
02:14:43.000They're going to have a Christian terror group, and because I'm predicting what they'll do, they'll probably try to even claim I'm involved, which of course I'm not.
02:14:49.000It's government-sponsored terror, and they're going to kill people and say Christians are doing it.
02:15:14.000What you'll have, this is the scenario.
02:15:16.000You will have a criminal group within the government that carries out terror attacks and attributes it to an imaginary Christian group who is resisting the mark of the beast.
02:15:24.000Then, if you refuse to take the chip, you must be with them.
02:15:31.000Well, that wouldn't surprise me, frankly, given the amount of craziness.
02:15:37.000You've always been pretty conservative, so having a governor say, take the chip, is kind of getting you to... Well, I've got to say, Alex, it really has.
02:15:45.000After a while, this stuff starts to seem so incredibly surreal that you really do say, you know, there's very little that would surprise me from this point forward.
02:15:52.000And I think I've kind of hit that point.
02:15:54.000When you've actually got a four-time governor standing up, you've got a technology that we were promised over and over for the last several years would never be used to track people.
02:16:03.000We've now got them being inserted into passports.
02:16:05.000We've now got people at the U.S., the Mexican and Canadian borders being issued tags containing these RFID devices so they can be identified coming from 30 feet away.
02:16:16.000I mean, we've really hit a point where there is an awful lot of doublespeak, an awful lot of what we were told would be happening is happening a very different way.
02:16:24.000And frankly, this technology really does scare me.
02:17:37.000Yeah, no, type it into Google, you'll get ABC News.
02:17:39.000Oh, yeah, that's what, that's what Bush did to be initiated, uh-huh.
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02:22:29.000So, Tommy Thompson is now part of the Get Chipped promotion.
02:22:33.000Give us some of his quotes, Catherine.
02:22:35.000Well, Tommy Thompson, of course, and I were both on CBS Market Watch about two weeks ago.
02:22:40.000And, of course, I gave the usual kind of conservative, hey, I'm not sure we all want to be chipped and tracked everywhere we go.
02:22:45.000And he left out there with some of these just amazing quotes.
02:22:49.000One of them says, I can be implanted in your arm within seconds, which I guess is true if you really want to do the speedy version.
02:22:55.000Uh, he says it'll give an identification number so it's very beneficial, it's going to be extremely helpful, and it's a giant step forward to getting what we call an electronic medical record for all Americans, end quote.
02:23:08.000Which the government's been calling for biometric scanning of all children at birth.
02:23:12.000Well, and you know, Alex, they're saying it's going to cost $200 billion to take all of our medical records, make them all electronic, put them all on the internet, and put them all under the control of the federal government.
02:23:24.000Why in the heck would we possibly want that?
02:23:27.000And Bush last week signed a law where everything you do, prescription-wise, instantly uploaded.
02:23:32.000No Fourth Amendment, not even a pretense.
02:23:35.000And you know, we can trace all this back to HIPAA.
02:23:38.000Which was the government's, and here I have to say it really was a pretense at privacy, when in reality if you carefully read the HIPAA statement that your doctor makes you sign when you go into the doctor and now even the dentist, even the optometrist makes you sign it, what it says on there is we have the right to give your information away to researchers, to federal government agents, to blah blah blah.
02:24:13.000Well, yeah, and you know, I've told this before, I think, to your audience, that, you know, I've talked to young people, teenagers, and I've got to say, people our generation, if you're over 30, You have an obligation to tell people who are under 20 what's going on in the world today.
02:24:30.000I remember in the old days when we didn't have a camera in the bathroom.
02:24:34.000I remember in the old days when I didn't have to take 10 pills every morning and worship the global leader.
02:24:40.000I remember when I didn't have a synaptic nerve brain control modulator.
02:24:45.000Well, it's even, you know, the 15-year-old girl who turned to me and said, well, Catherine, I think it's really great that, you know, you're on TV and you're fighting all these privacy invasions and the supermarket cards and, you know, all this stuff, but I've got just one question for you.
02:24:58.000If you got rid of those supermarket cards like you're trying to do, how would the store know what you bought?
02:25:03.000So you've got these young people just taking it as a matter of course that, you know, global corporations have a right to those persons.
02:25:09.000Well, you come back in with your receipt!
02:25:11.000Yeah, well, you know, they've got it right there with you.
02:25:12.000Well, did you know that, like, I've seen three different issues of Time Magazine for Kids with huge, lavish articles about in the future you'll be chipped, your parents aren't cool but you are, you know how good the chips are.
02:25:32.000These stick-in-the-mud parents who don't understand how cool it is to have a chip and to have the supermarket watching what you buy and have your cell phone tracking you around.
02:25:41.000Your parents don't know how cool it is to be a slave!
02:25:45.000Well, let me give you another Tommy Thompson quote here.
02:25:47.000This is the one that really made my hair stand up on end.
02:25:51.000He says, this is going to give that, really that impetus to get the changing, the transformation, which I call, that's badly needed in our healthcare system.
02:26:01.000This changing, this transformation is kind of what we're talking about.
02:26:05.000It's transforming This notion that you do have some form of medical privacy, this notion that you can take prescription drugs and it's really nobody's business but you and your doctors, and transforming it into this notion that everything you do... The chip is going to cause a transformation!
02:26:36.000What we've been following is, you and I have been following this for several years, and you know back in the early days when they first introduced the Verichip, they predicted a market of literally billions of people taking the Verichip.
02:26:47.000And they said that on their website, they said it in their public statements, we predict a market of literally billions.
02:26:53.000And how do you get a market of billions of people to take these devices?
02:26:56.000And they can't even pay people to put these things in their arms.
02:27:09.000Yeah, well, unless you have the chip in your arm, you may actually not be able to get healthcare ten years down the road when they make the electronic medical records.
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02:31:23.000I mean, to have a former member of the cabinet, a governor, traipsing around saying, get CHIP, it's wonderful, kids need it, the military needs it.
02:31:32.000But I got quotes from speeches he's given where he's saying every child needs it.
02:31:35.000I mean, they're out in the open, folks.
02:31:38.000And they're just going to keep acting like they're normal and having these prestigious people push it.
02:32:07.000Well, you know, you mentioned tracking kids and Tommy Thompson talking about that.
02:32:12.000It's interesting, right after he publicly went on the board and started making these announcements, the Verichip and Applied Digital folks came out with this big press release that they had foiled a baby abduction from a hospital in North Carolina.
02:32:27.000Yeah, well, they made this big announcement that their Verichip product, which is an ankle bracelet, it's an RFID-based device that they clamp onto the ankle of newborn babies, and they have doorway sensors in the hospital, so if someone attempts to take the baby through the doorway without removing or deactivating the ankle bracelet, it will set off an alarm.
02:33:20.000The mother who had just given birth to the baby and the father of the baby tried to remove the baby because they were afraid that the hospital administrators were going to take the baby from them.
02:34:00.000Just type in your email address and there's a form there, blah, blah, blah.
02:34:03.000But anyway, we just sent out a newsletter where we talk about that.
02:34:06.000Um, there have been some reports in the media, but I'd say, you know, 99 out of 100 reports on this said, oh, hooray, this new technology helped foil an abduction, but they don't talk about what the abduction, quote-unquote, was really about.
02:34:19.000You know, the other thing, Alex, we... The child, the parents who just had the baby, they tried to take it out, and then they're in their bed.
02:34:27.000And they didn't have the hospital authorization to remove their child.
02:34:43.000It's interesting here in the state of New Hampshire where I live, there's been a big push to get more respect for home birth midwives so people can have their babies at home and avoid it all together.
02:34:54.000The government's moving to stop that even though statistically it's safer.
02:35:08.000They try to drug the mothers and the children, and they spy on the mothers and fill out all these tattletale reports.
02:35:15.000Up in Illinois, all mothers will get three CPS visits, whether you're a millionaire or a poor mother on food stamps, all about getting you into the system.
02:35:25.000Did you hear about how they tried to pass a law this year?
02:35:27.000We narrowly defeated it, but they're going to bring it up next legislative session to put a transponder in the new inspection stickers next year.
02:35:44.000Well, I'll tell you, Alex, in the book that I've co-authored that's coming out in a little Six weeks now, coming out of October 4th, we devote a whole chapter to transportation and RFID based tracking.
02:35:56.000It's called Spy Chips and it's available for pre-order on Amazon.com right now.
02:36:01.000You can see it up on our spychips.com website and get some information about it.
02:36:05.000I think it's going to really change the conversation about a lot of this RFID technology because we found in their own words some of the biggest corporations on planet earth very clearly discussing a never before published information.
02:36:18.000About their plans literally to track people everywhere they go.
02:36:21.000Track them in their cars, track them walking down the street.
02:36:23.000Unless they're an illegal alien, then they're given more tuition than the citizens, they're given home loans, they're above the law, but us gullible little compliant slaves, we're going to really enjoy it.
02:36:37.000Well, and even the immigrants now are getting tagged, so not so quick.
02:36:40.000I'm sure they'd tag everybody if they could.
02:36:47.000I want to make a few calls here, but Catherine, a few years ago you went to one of their big consortium meetings, big convention in Chicago, and they were saying stuff like, the public hates this in our polls, our internal polls, but they will submit.
02:37:11.000Well, you know, I've attended a couple of their meetings.
02:37:13.000The first one that I ever went to was back in the spring of 2002, and at that meeting I literally heard people say, won't it be great when we'll know every time the consumer takes the lid off the toothpaste in their own bathroom?
02:37:25.000And, you know, the plan is to put our FID readers in our medicine cabinets, to put them in our bathroom scales.
02:37:33.000We report that in the newsletter that went out yesterday.
02:37:35.000To put them in our refrigerators, in our pantries, so that literally every product you bring into your home... It's like the black box in your car has that history.
02:37:43.000It's actually, it's like the black box in your car, but it's recording, you know, at what time someone removed the, you know, the psycho-whatever medication from the shelf, and how much it weighed when they took it out, and how much it weighed when they put it back, and who the individual was who picked it up.
02:38:10.000Well, and of course we'd have the world free from people not following the prescription instructions that they were given by their doctors.
02:38:17.000And we've got new freedom where we've got to drug everyone.
02:38:20.000Well, and the concern the pharmaceutical industry has is that 50% of people do not fill the prescriptions they're written.
02:38:29.000So they want to make sure that not only are you taking the drugs that you get, but that you're filling every prescription you're issued.
02:38:35.000So when the doctor writes you a prescription, you know, and we've all had the experience of going to the doctor because you just wanted to make sure something wasn't serious.
02:38:42.000And he goes, oh, it's not serious, but here's a prescription anyway.
02:38:44.000And he gives you a big thing of painkillers and you don't want them.
02:38:52.000And you know, most of us go, ah, you know, I don't really need that.
02:38:54.000I just wanted to make sure I wasn't dying of, you know, a brain hemorrhage or something.
02:38:56.000No, I've got, like, I've got, like, Antibiotics from, you know, when I went to the doctor five years ago in the cabinet.
02:39:04.000Yeah, well, and a lot of people just throw away the prescription pad, you know, the piece of paper, because they don't need the prescription.
02:39:16.000And then if there's any plates in the sink, we better take their children.
02:39:20.000Well, what's funny about it, Alex, is that the pharmaceutical industry views that as you're somehow costing them money because a legitimate doctor gave you a legitimate prescription and you failed to comply by not filling that prescription.
02:39:32.000So they call it prescription compliance.
02:39:34.000They talk about losing billions of dollars every year because people don't comply with their prescription requirements.
02:39:39.000Well, have you heard the news saying where The biggest janitor company, 500,000 employees, exterminator companies, truck drivers, they're all spying on you when they're in your house.
02:39:51.000And the cops can't do that, and what they're doing is criminal, too.
02:39:53.000I mean, we are really becoming a nightmare place.
02:39:57.000This is people you hire to come in and clean your business or your home, and they're reporting back if they see anything unusual to Homeland Security?
02:40:08.000Yeah, but I mean, it's like being institutionalized across the board.
02:40:11.000It's like something straight out of the KGB.
02:40:13.000Well, let me give you guys a little bit of intellectual ammunition next time you're arguing with somebody who says this is going to make us safer.
02:40:19.000I don't think I've ever found one of those people.
02:41:00.000Basically, everything you did... And by the way, in that society, everybody uses it in business against each other, or somebody wants your wife, or somebody's jealous of you, or they're just a nutcase.
02:41:11.000And those people rise up through the ranks And then pretty soon people go, I'm not going to produce anything, I'm just going to be fed on.
02:41:18.000And so your way of rebelling is just being a lazy sloth.
02:41:21.000Then there's forced labor camps, which they admittedly are building.
02:41:25.000Did you know about the forced labor camps?
02:41:58.000The idea that somehow being surveilled makes us safer, you can simply point to the example of the Soviet Union under Stalin and his predecessors, or the folks who came after him, and you can say, Did that make them safer?
02:42:11.000Being watched, being observed, having their phone calls and their mail intercepted, having everything they did watched, did not make them safer.
02:42:18.000Actually, that was the bloodiest, most ruthless regime in the 20th century.
02:42:22.000And Stalin's government killed 60 million.
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02:43:04.000We've got our website at nocards.org, and No Cards is the one that talks all about the supermarket cards and how they're using Uh, dossiers of information on the food purchases that you make, how that information gets stored and used against people, and how it's just anti-liberty.
02:43:35.000You're making me think of something, Alex.
02:43:36.000You know, the, um, The RFID reader devices, people who have heard me before know that there's a plan for it to put a tiny RFID tracking device into every consumer product manufactured on earth to replace the barcode.
02:43:49.000They wanted to have it this year, but they're behind.
02:43:51.000Yeah, well, they're too expensive yet.
02:43:53.000When they come down to a couple pennies apiece, we'll start seeing them pop up.
02:43:56.000And they've also got a lot of consumer opposition.
02:43:58.000There's a lot of people who don't like this.
02:44:00.000Down the road, they'd like every pair of socks, every Calvin Klein sweatshirt, every pen in your pocket to have one of these RFID tags in it.
02:44:07.000And the question really is, well, don't worry about the privacy implications, folks, because the reader devices, it's not like we're going to have reader devices everywhere.
02:44:16.000Well, we've done some digging around, and this is all revealed in our book, Spy Chips, coming out in October.
02:44:21.000We did some digging around and we found that the companies that manufacture those anti-theft portals and doorways at, you know, regular retail stores, you walk through and it sets off the alarm.
02:44:30.000Well, they've already said they're going to put those in, yeah.
02:44:35.000The two companies that make them, Checkpoint and Sensomatic, are migrating those to become RFID readers.
02:44:41.000So what that means is they can flip an RFID tag into the loyalty card in your wallet, into your passport, into your shoe, the layers between your shoe, into the label of your clothing, all of which we've seen by the way.
02:44:53.000And as you walk through that security portal that you think is just an anti-theft device, they could be scanning you head-to-toe and identifying you.
02:45:00.000Well they admit, they're going to get your identity, which is more freedom.
02:45:25.000When he sat there and waited until the Pentagon got hit, because a domestic military installation got hit, he automatically gets war powers.
02:45:33.000So sitting there biding his time allowed him to not have to go to Congress to Control the media to, you know, wage war whenever he wants to, wherever he wants to.
02:45:45.000Chips will make you as secure as the cameras did, so that'll help with the London bombing.
02:45:50.000As far as making people take them, let's say there's a bio-attack and the only way that you can get your vaccination is if you get your microchip.
02:46:01.000Actually, it was Tommy Thompson who said everybody needs to be forced to take the injection.
02:46:05.000Well, hey, you might not take it right away, and you might resist it for a little while until your neighbor gets sick and dies, or a cousin gets sick and dies, and then you'll be standing in line with everybody else waiting to get it.
02:46:15.000Receiving the transformation, the blessing.
02:46:30.000Well, from my research, Applied Digital's debt is owned predominantly by IBM.
02:46:35.000So it's really, I mean, look, I've looked into it, and I'm sure you have too, Catherine, that all your other big computer companies, Motorola, IBM, they've all been developing sub-thermal chips too, quote, in R&D.
02:46:48.000So it seems like really, Applied Digital is the front, the prance around promoting it.
02:46:56.000You know, if you look at Applied Digital's history, there's been some research that's been kind of interesting into all of the sort of financial shenanigans.
02:47:05.000There's a lot of people who think it's just a stock scam.
02:47:08.000You know, that literally they're putting... I mean, I'll give you some evidence.
02:47:12.000Back in October, October 12th of 2004, when they announced their FDA approval, that the FDA had actually approved the use of this as a medical implant, Some of the key folks in the company, some of the key stockholders divested themselves of their stock after that announcement.
02:47:28.000Now it would seem to me that when you get a big publicly positive announcement, that's the time you buy more stock, not the time you cash out.
02:47:35.000So I'm really questioning how serious these folks are about their long-term future.
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02:53:54.000I mean, I do that all the time and that goes up there on the site.
02:54:14.000I just wanted to know if anyone has even thought about making some sort of RF jammer?
02:54:21.000They have things that fry them and erase them, but Catherine comments.
02:54:26.000Well, you've got two different things.
02:54:28.000One is jamming the reader devices, which would be a violation of FCC regulations and would land you probably some serious fines and possibly even prison time.
02:54:36.000So even if you can find a way to do it, probably not the best idea because it's easy to pinpoint the location.
02:54:43.000Mark's trying to put a clown white cake makeup on around the front of the bus.
02:54:47.000We're not trying to get around this system, we're trying to stop it from going in, but go ahead.
02:55:07.000Yeah, and your other problem is if you, you know, these things are going into Michelin tires, these things are going into things that are a little too big to stick in your microwave, you know, ultimately they want to put these into cash, and if you put that in the microwave and blew out the chip, you would essentially invalidate your cash.
02:55:21.000Yeah, they admit that Europe and the U.S.
02:55:22.000and the Japanese are testing this right now.
02:55:24.000Looking into it, and, you know, but the problem is that you don't want your cash to be trackable, you kill the chip, you just invalidated your $100 bill because it's in there to prevent counterfeiting, and that's how they validate that it's real.
02:55:36.000So down the road, you know, killing chips may not be your best bet.
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