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00:01:31.000I'm going to predict that interest rates are going to rise through the roof, that this new chairman is going to burst the housing bubble for sure.
00:01:38.000And what they're doing is they're using the hurricane and did you know just in the past half day or so there's been a bombing that went off in Baghdad again.
00:01:49.000But the terrorists are blowing up reporters.
00:01:56.000Now I couldn't think of any terrorists In the right or wrong mind, that would do something that stupid.
00:02:03.000Yeah, why do the terrorists always do what helps the globalists?
00:02:06.000Like, Saddam says, I hate Al-Qaeda, I'm fighting them, which is true.
00:02:09.000And then all of a sudden, Bin Laden pops up and goes, no, no, I'm working with him.
00:02:14.000And then, of course, Colin Powell knows hours before the tape's released, because he works for them.
00:02:20.000It's totally and completely slick luck.
00:02:23.000Well, why would they want bad press releases?
00:02:28.000The government, if some reporter got a hold of some really hot news that was, like, meltdown great, I would think that the government would want them hushed up really quick.
00:02:39.000But I don't think terrorists would... Well, sir, it's not just your logic that's correct.
00:03:52.000I think they're using Harris as a lightning rod, because I don't think she's electable, but I do think that the next person they put in is going to be even worse, but it's going to be the other side.
00:04:11.000I mean, I really, really do appreciate your call, sir.
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00:08:31.000We've got Scott Ritter coming on in the next hour.
00:08:36.000Just a lot of new revelations and he's spilt his guts in this new book.
00:08:40.000Stuff that you've never seen in the press, you've never heard before.
00:08:45.000Everything so well documented that's coming up in the next hour.
00:08:49.000And everything he has told us, he's been completely vindicated.
00:08:54.000Just totally vindicated, and he has been through the wringer at the hands of the frothing, treasonous neo-concs.
00:09:03.000But for the next 51 minutes, and we're even going to take some calls a little bit later, we are joined by the Brigadier General, retired now, and she was the head of all the prisons and detainment
00:09:18.000Facilities, 17 of them, at the time, in Iraq, 3400 soldiers, and she's Janice Karpinski, and when she started refusing to be scapegoated, and started pointing out the military intelligence, and the 205 military intelligence brigade was in control of every wing, in every prison where this stuff was going on, where the torture was going on,
00:09:44.000When she wouldn't fall on her sword and commit Harry Caray when she hadn't done anything, Lord Bush, the silver spoon creature, fell on, basically forced her to, well, be broken down to a kernel.
00:10:24.000For those that don't know, I mean, we have General Togumbo's own report.
00:10:28.000I mean, it's admitted raping, pouring acid on people, the photos we've seen of the tip of the iceberg, but then, day one, I knew that even at Camp X-Ray, Brigadier General Rick Baucus refused to torture, so he got kicked out, as well, so you're among a lot of other company, and now that's finally broken on, not on the major TV shows like Frontline, but we reported on it two years ago, I mean, this is going on.
00:10:56.000For those that don't know, the torture is admitted, but we know that even in Guantanamo Bay, there is a CIA base within the base, that's where the torture goes on, and can you break this down and basically go through what happened and how they tried to scapegoat you?
00:11:13.000Well, I guess we'll never know until they're willing to admit, and they never will, but we can speculate as to why they wanted to scapegoat me, and there's every reason to believe That those reasons are valid.
00:11:26.000But it started when we were assigned this new mission for detention operations.
00:11:32.000We were basically sold a false bill of goods.
00:11:34.000They told us that we were going to Baghdad, that we were going to receive support from the CJTF-7, General Sanchez's headquarters.
00:11:42.000And from Ambassador Bremmer at the Coalition Provisional Authority that we would be working with these prisons experts at the Coalition Provisional Authority to work towards restoring Iraqi jails and prisons to turn it back over to the Iraqi control.
00:11:57.000To arrive in Baghdad to discover that they had just begun to identify some locations.
00:12:02.000They had a list of 121 prisons that they wanted to restore and that they wanted us to run.
00:12:09.000And I told them I didn't have nearly that number of resources.
00:12:17.000And they were responsible for providing the funding to restore those prisons and renovate those prisons.
00:12:24.000That was very slow in coming, only to discover after those contractors left that most of the contract work that had been allegedly done and paid for was in fact never done.
00:12:34.000So we had MPs that were running these facilities in very, very austere conditions.
00:12:42.000The prisons that were restored were done to the minimal standards.
00:12:48.000In one case, the contractors put the hinges on the insides of the prison doors so the prisoners took all the hinge pins out and were waiting outside in the courtyard and scared the Iraqi guards away and the MPs had to go back in.
00:13:00.000uh... regain control of the prison facility but Abu Ghraib was never intended to be a permanent prison detention or prison or detention operation it was used as an interim facility largely because there was real estate available inside the twenty foot high retaining wall uh... which was the first line of defense uh... for us to establish temporary camps prisoner of war camps if there was still a war going on
00:13:29.000This would have been much like a prisoner of war camp.
00:13:33.000It was never an ideal location of any kind for detention operations, let alone interrogation operations, as it ultimately became.
00:13:41.000General, we're talking to Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, now retired, and Lord Bush bossed her down to colonel when she started going public about a year ago, refusing to go along with this fraud.
00:13:53.000I mean, specifically, let's get into the separation of duties.
00:13:56.000Once you guys Are in there, you're overloaded, 3400 troops, that's with security, a lot of your prisons and facilities are under daily bombardment by rockets, grenades, snipers, bombings.
00:14:10.000And on top of this, I didn't specifically, because obviously you were there in commanding this, how the military intelligence took over and cloistered and kind of sequestered their own little reservations within your reservations.
00:14:25.000The military intelligence brigade commander relocated to Abu Ghraib after one of his soldiers, two of his soldiers were killed in a RPG attack out at the prison facility.
00:14:36.000He was visiting one night, only intended to spend one or two nights out there.
00:14:40.000There was an attack and two of his soldiers were killed and shortly after that he made the decision to relocate to Abu Ghraib and he had about six interrogation teams which then became about a dozen interrogation teams and these were military interrogators.
00:14:58.000These were soldiers who were serving as interrogators.
00:15:01.000They were following their regulations, their doctrine.
00:15:04.000We had a very low number, a very small number of uh... prisoners that needed to be interrogated they were mostly iraqi criminals nonviolent crime looting Missing curfew, a weapon in the trunk of a car, whatever it may have been.
00:15:19.000Well, that's what the Army's other report said.
00:15:22.000It said that between 75 and 90 percent were totally innocent and just hadn't had their papers in order.
00:15:29.000And it remains so, I believe, it remains so today.
00:15:33.000Because they're still doing these raids, these roundups, where they'll go out and target an individual and whoever happens to be around that individual, they bring them all in.
00:15:41.000And then there's no way, there's no avenue to release them Once they're tagged as security detainees, they fall into this relatively new and unsupervised category.
00:15:53.000And when you had this departure from detention operations and following the rules to control of detention operations by a military intelligence commander, you have a complete departure from Anything other than chaos, as far as who's in charge, who can give me orders, who can instruct me.
00:16:13.000What was it like having somebody under you, though?
00:16:15.000I mean, I've heard the stories of Delta Force commanding generals around.
00:16:19.000What was it like having somebody under you, basically telling you what to do?
00:16:23.000Well, Colonel Pappas never worked for me.
00:16:30.000When it came to interrogations, he answered to General Fast.
00:16:33.000Who was the intelligence officer at the headquarters and to General Sanchez, who was the commander.
00:16:38.000He didn't report any of his interrogation findings through me.
00:16:41.000In fact, the one time that one of his captains, when we had this first raid that was conducted and they brought in about 37 security detainees, within about 36 hours they had interviewed all of them and said that the majority of them were available for release.
00:17:00.000When I briefed that, that evening at the nightly update, I was told by General Wojcikowski, the Deputy Commander, not to release anybody.
00:17:34.000General, we've got you for the rest of this hour, and my mind is just spinning.
00:17:38.000I mean, there's so much I want to talk about.
00:17:39.000I want to talk about what happened in there, how they kept you guys out of it, then how they tried to blame you with it, when their own documents show you weren't even allowed in there.
00:17:48.000All of this going on, and then we've got Alberto Gonzalez writing memos that then the Pentagon uses, giving orders to their own little subgroups under black ops, And then they send people to prison for following orders, even in their own groups.
00:18:05.000I mean it's just, there's so many facets to this.
00:18:13.000We can trace now, we can trace back to, through documents that were released under court order, we can trace back to the original document, the one that Alberto Gonzalez reviewed and discussed with the President of the United States, a departure from the Geneva Convention.
00:18:30.000These are not prisoners, these are terrorists.
00:18:33.000And these techniques will be more effective.
00:18:36.000And then Secretary Rumsfeld putting his signature on a document authorizing more aggressive techniques, harsher techniques during interrogation.
00:18:45.000That document goes down to Guantanamo Bay and over to Afghanistan and it's used perhaps first in small groups and then it's used at Guantanamo Bay as a standard practice.
00:18:59.000Well, specifically, General, we've got a break, but what about private contractors inside Abu Ghraib and other areas?
00:19:06.000Because we've seen the reports that they were in there, too.
00:19:26.000hotel room watching Rumsfeld go on, we've taken the gloves off, we're really pressuring him, and in laughter in the military briefing, this was all publicly encouraged!
00:19:36.000And then they can send people to prison while they don't get in trouble?
00:19:57.000We're talking to General Janice Karpinski.
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00:24:03.000Folks, I want you to think about the magnitude of the defections.
00:24:08.000Last week we had Ray McGovern, number five in the CIA, who briefed Ronald Reagan, who briefed George Bush Sr., coming right out on air saying Bush may carry out terror attacks because he's in so much trouble to keep his war going.
00:24:24.000That our own government might pull something.
00:24:26.000I mean, that's how out in the open all this is getting.
00:24:29.000That's how many whistleblowers there are.
00:24:31.000Ron Paul, Republican Congressman, saying the government may be preparing for a coup d'etat, for martial law.
00:24:38.000I mean, that's how Twilight Zone things have gotten in here.
00:24:41.000We are talking to Brigadier General Janice Karpinski, in her new book, One Woman's Army.
00:25:22.000Filtered all the way down through the Secretary of Defense with the endorsement of the President, the Vice President, you know, whatever advisors are surrounding him.
00:25:32.000And filtered down through the commanders in the field.
00:25:36.000These practices were not only endorsed but were in use at Guantanamo Bay and in locations in Afghanistan.
00:25:43.000And when General Miller visited Iraq He carried those techniques with him and taught the interrogators on site how to be more effective in their interrogations.
00:25:53.000And then he sent contract interrogators and people he knew, military people he knew, who had performed well down at Guantanamo Bay, he sent them to Iraq as well.
00:26:04.000So really we had kind of torture seminars going on?
00:26:11.000Because General Miller must have thought that his discussions with the Military Intelligence Brigade Commander were effective enough for him to understand that he could do anything he needed to do to get actionable intelligence from the prisoners.
00:26:26.000Now, you know, they talk about how they went after Grainer in England and others because they had photos, but you point out in your book, why then, you know, who took the pictures and why did that happen?
00:26:40.000And then on top of it, if Congress has seen over 2,000 photos and over 100 videos of raping women, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about savage Joseph Mingala type stuff, even underage people.
00:26:52.000I mean, if this is going on, then why haven't all those people been indicted?
00:26:56.000Because they needed a group of people to call the scapegoat, excuse me, they needed to scapegoat people that, and they must have believed naively that they were going to take the punishment, go to jail, and be quiet.
00:27:10.000That they would never go out and hire their own attorneys or representatives for themselves in their own cases.
00:27:18.000They certainly believed that I was going to be quiet, that I was just going to take what they were accusing me of and go back home to the United States after my deployment.
00:28:42.000It was in the middle of the Sunni triangle.
00:28:44.000And now you take this operation and you put it under the control of the military intelligence.
00:28:50.000And their objective is completely different than the objective of a military police soldier.
00:28:56.000And they know how to treat prisoners humanely and fairly and they did so in every facility where they were running detention operations.
00:29:03.000The only Well, I read about where they would go get prison guards, federal prison guards with bad records, and actually hire them.
00:29:10.000the military intelligence brigade well I read about where they would go get prison guards federal prison guards with bad records right and actually higher than they were actually scouting for sickos well there is a you know and not only the prisons experts that were hired there we were supposed to have about 80 of them down at the coalition provisional authority There was three.
00:29:38.000Of course, they didn't share the information about their previous positions with us, but after we returned, we found out that... General, we got a break.
00:30:06.000Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.
00:30:10.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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00:33:31.000I haven't read the whole thing and I've read about three chapters.
00:33:34.000But we need to support people that are bold and tell the truth.
00:33:38.000And they didn't expect her to go public.
00:33:39.000That's where we had left off when we went to break.
00:33:43.000I guess they expect you to be spineless like all the others.
00:33:47.000You know, there's an increasing number and it's a great concern to me personally and professionally because I saw senior officers in Iraq who were More concerned about the political ramifications of their decisions than they were about the leadership or moral decisions, ramifications.
00:34:03.000They were hesitant to go against anything that Secretary Rumsfeld was putting out because he had proven, if you don't agree with him, You'll find yourself on the street.
00:34:16.000You'll find yourself without a position.
00:34:18.000So there is no backbone anymore that, you know, we've become very famous for in the military.
00:34:24.000We have the strongest military in the world, but our leaders are now afraid.
00:34:28.000They're afraid to voice their opinions, they're afraid to state their opinions, and they're afraid to say, no, you're wrong.
00:34:35.000General, even their Enron crony, their darling, Army Secretary White, who was an insider with these guys, he said, look, the generals say 400,000 troops.
00:35:07.000And General Shinseki was, for all practical purposes, a lame duck for months until he retired.
00:35:15.000It's amazing though that, I mean, when they get unanimous data from the people that know how to fight wars, and know how to get the power back on and help the civilian population, they just, you know, I'm sure you've seen the Karl Rove quote where he says, we control reality, we make reality.
00:36:07.000So we've gone from George Washington at Trenton charging into the German soldiers himself with bullets flicking through his hat to generals cowering in armored compounds.
00:36:20.000You want to know where the armored vehicles were and they weren't out on the road with the soldiers?
00:36:24.000They were protecting the spokesperson for General Sanchez.
00:36:28.000They were parked on the confines of Camp Victory So in case any of those officers had to take a 20-minute journey somewhere across the road to the airport, they'd be in an up-armored vehicle.
00:36:37.000And soldiers were paying the price for that.
00:36:43.000They'll just have a neocon get on the radio and say they've got plenty of armored vehicles when I've got family over there and they still don't.
00:36:50.000What are these letters we're getting back home?
00:36:56.000When a soldier stands up and says to the Secretary of Defense, why don't we have the right equipment if you want us to do this the right way and survive?
00:37:04.000And he says, well, we go to war with the army, we have not necessarily the one that we want.
00:37:11.000The person who stopped, the person who stopped the orders for additional armored equipment and armored vehicles is today a four-star general and is in the Pentagon and is serving as the, he is the acting Chief of Staff of the Army.
00:37:27.000Well, the FBI agents that blocked Robert Wright and Kathleen Rowley and others, who specifically had the documents and knew who the hijackers were according to the official story, they all got demoted or removed or fired, but the people that blocked them have all been promoted.
00:37:44.000You play the game, you go along with whatever's being spun by the neocons or by the Pentagon, and you get promoted.
00:37:50.000But the people who have the strength and the moral courage to stand up and say, this is wrong, this is a lie, they're removed from their positions, they take their security clearances away, and then they're out on the street.
00:38:04.000And that's a big message to be sending throughout the force.
00:38:08.000You cross the Secretary of Defense and you're out on the street.
00:38:11.000But if I was the Secretary of Defense, I would want the real intel.
00:38:15.000I would want to know what was really going on.
00:38:17.000I would want to know what the trained war fighters were saying instead of this delusional la-la.
00:38:23.000I mean, just because I think something doesn't make it so.
00:38:26.000Or just because you repeat a lie often enough doesn't make it the truth.
00:38:30.000But, you've already started down that road.
00:38:32.000If you stop this train, which is what they need to do, realistically, they need to stop this train and say, wait, clean the slate, we need to get to the truth and we need to get there now.
00:38:46.000But, I mean, how obvious, General, how obvious is it?
00:38:49.000When we got the memos saying, well, these are Wellian terms, I mean, these are public.
00:38:54.000Well, we can torture somebody to death, and if we don't mean to kill them, and we don't call it torture, it isn't torture.
00:38:59.000I mean, torturing people to death, folks, and this happens all the time, and then the Congress You know, 90 to 9, the Senate says, no more torture, you've got to follow the manual, you've got to follow the law, the regulations, and then Bush says, no, I'm going to veto that!
00:39:17.000I mean, look, he's sending people to prison, little nothings, like England and Grainer, They're obviously psychopaths, but the point is, they're sending them to prison for following their degenerate orders of the handlers that were in there controlling them, that took the photos, that thought it was cute.
00:39:35.000Meanwhile, Bush is on TV saying, I'm going to veto, we're going to torture!
00:40:07.000Because there's overwhelming proof that it's not only been going on, but it's been directed and is likely continuing even to this day.
00:40:15.000I don't want to believe that it is, but the statements from people that are just returning from the theater give every indication that in fact it is.
00:40:23.000They still don't know where to draw the line.
00:40:25.000General, why is the torture so perverted?
00:40:31.000Well, I think, you know, to me, when they use, particularly women, this sexual overtones, using a woman to try to get an Iraqi man to, or a Muslim man, to break and to give them information.
00:40:47.000This is insulting and humiliating, not only to the female that they're using to do the interrogation, but they're getting some kind of bizarre sense of pleasure, the interrogators are, watching this whole thing take place.
00:41:00.000I know, this is something out of a horror movie!
00:41:02.000Naked women putting... putting... I mean, I hate to use this, but we have to... menstrual fluids on men?
00:41:08.000I mean, this is... Exactly, and who studied the Arab culture to come up with such an idea?
00:41:23.000And the fact that they're using female soldiers to conduct this demonstrates what they're thinking about the likely role for women in the military.
00:41:35.000Well, listen, if they told me in the military, go in there and do something to a woman, I'd be, you can go to hell.
00:42:14.000I mean, when did you decide to not roll over and fight him?
00:42:19.000When I was down in Kuwait and I was waiting for... I spoke to General Toguba in the conference room down in Kuwait and he had six other men in the room with him.
00:42:41.000No, these soldiers are not derelict in the performance of their duties.
00:42:45.000I explained every single question that he presented to me.
00:42:49.000And when I saw the results of his investigation or from that interview, and he had the nerve to say that I was emotional.
00:42:58.000Well, I wasn't the one with tears coming out of my eyes at the end of the interview.
00:43:02.000It was him and his six comrades, because they knew what they were doing was wrong, and they knew that they were going to be called to accuse me for things that clearly I was not responsible for.
00:43:14.000Well, that's encouraging, though, that they were crying, because that means they've still got souls at least.
00:44:09.000I told General McKiernan when he made the decision that I should not be reprimanded, that I should not be relieved.
00:44:15.000And he allowed me to go back to the United States, and that was in April of 2004.
00:44:21.000I told him that we needed, when I got back to the States, it was my intent to at least have an after-action review and make sure none of this ever happened again.
00:44:30.000And he said to me as I was leaving his office, there's a great future for Janis Karpinski in the Army Reserves.
00:44:40.000By the time I got back to the United States and the pictures were released, The Chief of the Army Reserves is now using the Taguba Report as the sacred document and is suspending me and ultimately relieving me from command.
00:44:53.000And he has never spoken a word to me since I've been back in the United States.
00:45:54.000Or do you agree with my statement that they're forming a large torture corps?
00:45:59.000I don't know if they'll be so bold as to call it that, but yes, I agree with you and it makes me shudder when I think about it because they took some contract interrogators to Iraq.
00:46:11.000They took some contract interrogators and put them at Abu Ghraib, testing to see what the response of the prisoners would be, testing more importantly to see what the response of soldiers would be to those interrogators taking over a military function.
00:46:25.000So now we know that that's an encroachment We know the quality of some of the contractors that were down at the Coalition Provisional Authority.
00:46:32.000Some of them had been fired from previous assignments, specifically at prisons, and they were fired for allegations of abuse of prisoners.
00:46:42.000In one case, it caused the death of a prisoner.
00:46:48.000They're actually scouring the planet for scum!
00:46:51.000Yes, for people who have this kind of mindset, who can live with themselves while they're going forth in this global war on terrorism and trying to make a difference.
00:47:01.000But, you know, it's important to understand that even the McCain bill that was passed by overwhelming victory, 90 to 9, it's limited to the military.
00:47:15.000For people who are subject to the UCFJ.
00:47:17.000We need a law on contractors on everybody!
00:47:22.000If somebody kidnaps a woman and goes and rapes her, I mean, is his defense gonna be, hey, I was just blowing off steam like Rush Limbaugh said, and torture's no big deal?
00:47:33.000I was trying to get information from her.
00:47:35.000I mean, let's think about this, folks.
00:47:36.000Since when is beating people to death and raping someone's wife in front of them, because their papers weren't in order at a checkpoint, because the fat slob just wants to rape somebody, since when is that what Americans do?
00:47:53.000General, what would you like to see happen?
00:47:55.000I mean, obviously, I think Gonzales But any general who we have paper trails on, knowingly part of this, I think they all need to go to prison.
00:48:06.000The Inspector General, who was not the Inspector General for most of the investigation, the one who made the decision to clear General Sanchez, General Wojciechowski, General Fass, Colonel Warren, Colonel Pappas, and General Miller.
00:48:20.000Uh, you know, was only there at the, at the direction of Secretary Rumsfeld and that was the first thing, the first action he took was to release those findings.
00:48:28.000Um, it says specifically in the IG report that actions I took or failed to take in no way contributed to the abuses at Abu Ghraib.
00:48:36.000But most people don't have access to the Inspector General's report, or don't take the time to go look for it.
00:48:41.000They really have besmirched your name.
00:48:44.000And then, when they do a separate investigation on Guantanamo Bay, the recommendation is that they reprimand General Miller for letting interrogations get out of control, even though he was directed to do those things.
00:48:57.000And his boss said, no, I'm not going to reprimand him.
00:49:01.000And his boss just happened to be the former military aide to Secretary Rumsfeld.
00:49:07.000So they're all proving that their hands are dirty.
00:49:11.000One is covering up the other for the other for the other.
00:49:15.000I want people to think about the fact that our current Attorney General, the supposed guy enforcing all these laws, He's writing memos saying Bush is above the law and the law flows from him, saying he's an emperor.
00:49:29.000I want people to realize that General Shoemaker is the guy who sent Delta Force in at Waco.
00:49:36.000I want people to know that they are now putting in a constellation, a gaggle, of people that are willing to do this.
00:49:44.000I tell you, General, this is really scary.
00:49:47.000Well, this scares me, too, and I agree with you because They have rewritten the dictionary.
00:49:54.000There's a prisoner of war, and then there's an Iraqi detainee, or a prisoner, an Iraqi criminal, and then there's this category of security detainees that seem to be apart from any of the Geneva Conventions and not subject to the rules that military personnel have followed for years.
00:50:11.000Now you bring into that equation contractors.
00:50:14.000Who are not subject to the UCMJ or appear to be above the rules.
00:50:19.000So we haven't gotten it right yet, although the bill unfortunately moves in the right direction.
00:50:25.000And now, well at least it forced Bush to go public and say he's for torture.
00:50:29.000I mean it really put the spotlight on these guys, but I just can't believe we're even having to sit here and debate this and talk about this, but they are being exposed.
00:50:38.000Our final segment with the General I might take a call or two, but we're also going to plug your books, so get your pens and paper ready for that.
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00:54:05.000the third hour here in about five minutes and about eight after we're gonna have Scott Ritter the UN weapons inspector the brave marine that blew the whistle on the lies day one before this whole nightmare started and boy has he been proven to be correct I don't want to hear from people that well you know something this big it would come out we would know all
00:54:29.000On every front, from the financial war profiteering, to the attack on the Bill of Rights, to protecting terrorist groups, to, you know, all of this, that this current cabal is engaged in, it all has come out.
00:54:48.000But a lot of the news media owned by the very financial interests that stand to gain from this try to spin it.
00:54:54.000That's why the alternative media is exploding in size because people aren't buying it anymore.
00:54:59.000The General has graciously decided to stay with us over five minutes to the next hour so we can get to Tony and Larry and a few others and we're about to go to your calls.
00:55:08.000But the new book by General Janice Larpinski is One Woman's Army.
00:55:18.000And General, tell us a little bit about the book and tell us about the publisher and some of the websites.
00:55:25.000The book is really about my, from when I grew up wanting to be in the military and then my military career and what led me to promotion to Brigadier General and then my assignment as the commander of the 800th MP Brigade.
00:55:39.000I felt like I really needed to reestablish my credibility Because it was widely destroyed by the spin from linking my name to those, exclusively my name, to those photographs and my leadership failures.
00:55:59.000I wanted women especially, but people around the world to understand that there are conscientious people in the military and we serve for a variety of reasons.
00:56:10.000Abu Ghraib and Iraq was a situation that was clearly out of control.
00:56:14.000And certainly not, we weren't able to rein it in on my watch.
00:56:20.000And this is of course published by Miramax Books.
00:56:24.000And for those that also, General, kind of out of left field here, have you ever heard of P2OG?
00:56:54.000have breakdown and that actually his goal was to, we have an Israeli document from 83 saying this too, is to have Iraq in turmoil, in civil war, never being a strong area and then using it as a launch base to then attack Syria and Iran.
00:57:09.000So in a way they actually want to fail so we have an excuse to stay there longer and build those permanent bases.
00:57:16.000I would because from July of 2003 when we arrived in Iraq It really did seem like we would only be there for a couple more months.
00:57:25.000Things to the north and the south of Baghdad seemed to be generally peaceful and returning to life as we knew it and certainly back under Iraqi control.
00:57:35.000But Baghdad and the surrounding vicinity, including the Sunni Triangle, was very resistant and somehow they capitalized on that.
00:57:44.000Instead of exploiting the peace, they capitalized on the insurgent activity and made the situation completely worse.
00:57:51.000And it grew increasingly worse over the next months.
00:57:56.000After they captured Uday, or killed Uday and Kuse in that operation in Seoul, the insurgents were more active than ever and they were becoming Uh, more accurate than ever before.
00:58:07.000Well, also, I mean, the military's not stupid.
00:58:09.000I've talked to so many, you know, experts who were in Vietnam fighting insurgencies.
00:58:13.000If one person shoots at you from a little village, you don't arrest every man down to the age of 11.
00:58:18.000You don't bulldoze all their date palms.
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00:59:45.000We'll be talking about Halloween here in a few minutes.
00:59:56.000I just wanted to touch on a few points.
00:59:59.000The last week, I was flipping through television and just seeing what was on.
01:00:05.000MTV, the wasteland that it is, there's a show called Punk whereby they stimulate an environment to try to create a stimulus from, you know, popular celebrities.
01:00:15.000And the show host, Ashton Kutcher, he just, you know, blatantly put it out there, you know, and I'm sure some of your viewers might have seen it, but he just blatantly put, like, ID cards, you know, we're in the future, you know, where's my card where we're in the future, you know, where's my card where I could just, you know, immediately go to the bank or, you know, just get money out.
01:01:12.000But do you think, at this point, that we could just reach the mass of Americans?
01:01:16.000Because, I mean, there's just... I'm a college student myself, and when I talk to, you know, fellow college students, they're just... they're completely oblivious to the fact that, you know, life isn't just what it teaches you in school, and in the new world, they just have no comprehension of A lot of that is because we've been trained to, number one, be soft, and to be lazy, and to be self-centered, and to only feed our animal instincts.
01:01:41.000But they're not going to be satisfied.
01:02:04.000Yeah, I was also watching The Simpsons last night, and when you spoke about how they're trying to reach you on television, it was just so weird when you spoke about it, and then I thought to myself, they showed guns being destroyed, homework destroyed, you know, he asked them cops, and they tried to, you know, just play it down because it's a cartoon.
01:02:26.000They showed guns being destroyed, and then a nuclear bomb going off, And then right after that, I was like, oh my gosh, you know, that's just, that's crazy how they just, you know, blatantly put that, well not blatantly, but indirectly put it in the cartoon.
01:02:59.000See what David does, I think David's a nice guy, is he talks about all this real stuff, then he adds things to it that can't be proven, and hence, then people think all the proven stuff may not be true.
01:03:10.000When you take a mid-level advertising class at a good university, they will, this is openly taught, Okay, the conscious mind is up here in the cerebral cortex, but the subconscious brain catalogues and is hooked into the instincts and everything.
01:03:30.000That's why it's good to not watch a lot of TV or be very selective about it.
01:03:35.000I mean, even if I try to watch a show about dolphins, at the end it's give up all your property, world government's good, the animals are dying.
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01:07:01.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:07:04.000All right, we have Texas Mars on the line with us.
01:07:18.000We'll be going to my good friend, the professor, here in just a moment to give you the history of Halloween.
01:07:24.000But just to recap, Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, who is supposedly a socialist, but he took land taken by neocon governments in the past and gave it back to the indigenous population with the deeds.
01:07:42.000So our government, the Supreme Court, is ruling that we don't own private property and if some private robber baron wants it, they can come and take it and not even pay you fair market value.
01:07:54.000That's literally like feudal lords 800 years ago in ancient England in the days of Longshanks just saying, I want your property, I want your wife, I want your daughter, I'm taking your sons as slaves to serve in my military.
01:08:10.000I mean, that's slavery, ladies and gentlemen.
01:08:13.000We forget that it isn't just black Americans who were slaves.
01:08:15.000A lot of white people came here as indentured servants, and you never got out of your seven years of indentured servitude because they'd get you into debt and you'd be a sharecropper.
01:08:26.000But that's a side issue with Hugo Chavez.
01:08:32.000The point is, he's getting off the IMF and World Bank, he's getting out of the system, he's got his own oil, and now he's saying that our government is satanic, that this is a way to terrorize the public, that dressing up like demons is bad, that it's not our way, that it's not Christian.
01:08:48.000And I have a lady that cleans our house.
01:09:33.000And BBC admits, quote, Halloween, a pagan festival characterized by mischief making, is marked every year on October 31st of October.
01:09:42.000And it is the year Halloween has the most murders and abductions and most violence of any day in the year.
01:09:51.000And what it's number three for DWI's, what Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving's number one and number two is Number two is New Year's, but the point is, hundreds of homes burned down in Detroit on Devil's Night.
01:10:08.000Why would you let your children be part of this?
01:10:10.000Even if you don't believe in God, which I think is foolish, you should know, folks, having your child dress up in an outfit and go demand something from someone, that's what the Druid priests would come and demand, your horse, demand your oxen, demand your cat, demand your child, to burn them, to kill them, to slit their throats, to throw them in a peat bog.
01:10:31.000Were we able to get Tex on a better phone there, guys?
01:11:01.000Halloween, Tex, why should we not celebrate Halloween?
01:11:07.000Why should we keep our children out of Samhain or Samhain?
01:11:11.000Well, you mentioned Samhain or Samhain as many call it.
01:11:19.000First of all, Alex, we're not against at all kids having a good time or parents having a good time or even though it's probably not the Most healthy, eating a lot of sweets at a given time of year.
01:11:36.000I think I've eaten too many sweets and it's put a lot of pounds on me over the years.
01:11:40.000But here is the absolute truth of Halloween.
01:11:50.000You know, in the witchcraft calendar, there are eight sabbats.
01:11:56.000The second Most powerful day of witchcraft for all witches and you can talk to the head of the Church of Wicca or the Salem witchcraft sect and all of those but the second most important day is this day Halloween and it comes of course from pagan sources.
01:12:17.000It really was not practiced in the United States until 1845 when many people from Ireland and Scotland came over after the The horrible potato famine.
01:12:29.000So many immigrants came to the United States from Ireland.
01:12:32.000Unfortunately, they brought with them the worship of the Druids.
01:13:54.000And then he began to be a cannibal, even.
01:13:57.000And, in fact, you know, Julius Caesar saw what we would call Halloween being celebrated when he conquered The Gallic lands and went over into Scotland.
01:14:09.000He saw the Stonehenge type of celebrations.
01:14:13.000He said himself that the Druids practiced not only witchcraft, this is in the writings of Julius Caesar.
01:14:19.000No, I actually own a volume of his letters back to Rome and he goes, these people are just totally evil.
01:14:25.000This is a worshipper of Mars and a worshipper of Zeus and a worshipper of all these pagan gods and he's calling it evil.
01:14:36.000Well, at least they didn't... One of the things he noted was that they would sacrifice victims to their so-called gods, and then their high priest, the Druid priest, would eat the flesh of their victims.
01:14:49.000So this was just abhorrent to Julius Caesar and to the Romans.
01:14:55.000You know, I had a call some years ago from a policeman in San Antonio And he wanted to find out more about Halloween and what witchcraft folks do and Satanists.
01:15:08.000And he told me that throughout the city of San Antonio, in the environs, in the wooded areas, in the hill country, they find Satanic altars after Halloween and they actually find the bones and charred bodies of animals And so this is, you know, something that they wanted to try to put an end to.
01:15:28.000Tex, I personally found that hiking around in the hill country around Austin, because I'll go on 10-15 mile hikes, especially back in the day when I had time, and you will run into satanic alters.
01:16:28.000He was calling up about all these, all these altars everywhere?
01:16:33.000Yeah, and he told me at that time, but this was several years back, that a number of the Humane Society shelters and such in the central Texas area, especially in San Antonio, at that time, they put a prohibition against the adopting of cats, especially black cats.
01:16:54.000The ASPCA and Humane Society actually know that many witchcraft sects will go and adopt animals, especially black cats, and then sacrifice them.
01:18:35.000For those who don't know, Christmas was actually banned for about 20 years in England in the early 1800s because of mass murder and killing.
01:18:45.000Uh, yeah, Santa Claus isn't a very friendly fella.
01:18:48.000He's actually kind of like Freddy Krueger.
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01:23:03.000I tell you, with guests like Tex Mars, we always have the best radio off air during the last four minutes talking to Tex.
01:23:09.000I was mentioning my new film, The Order of Depths, coming out.
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01:23:19.000But how the local pagans didn't like me mentioning how the elite was doing rituals.
01:23:25.000They were just mad about the policies.
01:23:28.000And how a year after we snuck in, we caught video of them, when Ed Homan went out there, doing their own ritual at the gates of the grove, and one of them called in Amon.
01:26:23.000Now, there's a book, and I had a copy of it some years ago, and I did research, and it's on a ruler in Eastern Europe named Vlad, V-L-A-D, the Impaler.
01:27:17.000Well, you know, I think it was Jason, or no, Freddy, Freddy Krueger, from one of the movies, he actually said he studied the life of Ted Bundy and used that as an inspiration for how he, his mannerisms and such, and how he acted.
01:27:33.000You know, back to Vlad, the Impaler, it's interesting that Lenin, you know, was not the monster of the Red Terror, Who murdered so many Christians and others in Soviet Russia.
01:27:59.000And it may even be of interest to people that Putin, the current, you know, he was with the KGB and now he's the new dictator, basically, of Russia.
01:28:12.000Well, we know that they were called the Red Chair of the Red Star, and it's actually talked about, this is well documented, where they're killing all these people, and he goes, I need more, more blood!
01:28:22.000More blood, he literally called out for that.
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01:32:09.000toll-free number to join us 1-800-2599-231 tax before we go any further give us some of your websites and tell us about your of amazingly powerful newsletter and also your new book codex magica Well Alex, I'll tell you, that book, wow, it's going to be a very controversial book.
01:32:34.000It's going to be out November 1st and I understand you're going to be offering it on your program on Infowars.com, your website.
01:32:41.000And I'll tell you, people will have never seen a book like this.
01:32:52.000And it's the first book to ever expose, actually has over 1,000 pictures, photographs, illustrations.
01:33:01.000And it actually shows what I call the criminals of the Illuminati.
01:33:06.000Some of the top politicians, entertainers, bankers, financiers, Uh, secret society leaders in the world, as they do their secret hand signals, handshakes, even use their bodies, mysterious secret symbols, hidden codes, and all of this you're going to see in the book, and this is a book basically that I've been researching for well over a decade.
01:33:30.000And it's taken me almost five years to put it all together.
01:33:42.000This thing just proves without a shadow of a doubt, folks, page after page, document after document, It's overwhelming, and I mean, I remember years ago you were working on this book text.
01:33:55.000I mean, normally you'd write a book in a year, or even faster, and these were thick, well-researched, powerful books.
01:34:01.000I mean, the first book I ever heard the word RFID was your book, Project Lucid, back in 1996.
01:34:09.000I mean, no one had ever heard of it, and you have the documents, how it would be used to buy and sell, and how it would be used to track us, You know, now Katharine Aulberg is getting kudos for writing it, and good for her, but text is a real trailblazer.
01:34:23.000Texts describe why you took so long to write this, and why it ended up being so long.
01:34:29.000I mean, I'm the same way, but not as scholarly as you are.
01:34:31.000I mean, you just want to keep adding more and more documentation because there's so much.
01:34:51.000And by the way, to make sure there's no argument, I go back and I actually have the pages out of some of the secret manuals and textbooks of the Illuminati secret societies.
01:35:18.000Senators, Presidents, Prime Ministers, Federal Reserve Chairman and so forth, using the same symbols and how they do it, how they move their body, even the words they use.
01:36:39.000So now you're firing this major, scholarly, but also very interesting work at the enemy on their day.
01:36:47.000Of course, this is the eve of the day, and then tomorrow is when the book actually comes out.
01:36:51.000We put in our order now, folks, for a whole bunch of these.
01:36:55.000So I hope you'll go to InfoWars.com In order, Codex Magicka, 600 plus pages, over a thousand pictures, from InfoWars.com, or get it from Tex Mars.
01:37:07.000Tex, give us the phone number at your office, so folks can call and get the book, or call and get your free newsletter.
01:37:15.000Well, I want to mention again, because a lot of people know about InfoWars.com, your website, it'll be available there, or they can go to our website, PowerOfProphecy.com, And, by the way, they can simply get our free newsletter.
01:37:29.000We'll be glad to give them this issue coming up which talks about Codex Magicka.
01:37:34.000They'll see some of the actual hand signs.
01:38:38.000This will awaken thousands of people, because we're being conditioned We're being propagandized!
01:38:45.000I mean, Codex Magic doesn't wake up more than that because I have really, I told you earlier, I really wanted to make a documentary where I went through and showed it all, but there's so much to have it in this coffee table style book, such an easy read, so, you know, well illustrated, to have all of their own photos, their own admissions.
01:39:02.000This is how the elite communicates with each other.
01:39:06.000This is, I mean, really, these occult groups, folks, are like the original secret societies.
01:39:11.000They're really just ...intelligence agencies with these occult trappings and these occult beliefs involved so now people are going to have really the blueprint to understand a whole new language.
01:39:25.000It's like learning German or learning French or learning Spanish as in a text and you have kind of decoded the Rosetta Stone.
01:39:37.000And I've used, interestingly enough, their own textbooks.
01:39:40.000I've had to go all the way back to 1860 Even the 1700s to find some of these textbooks.
01:39:47.000It's interesting how a lot of high level Freemasons have died over the years and their widows have sent me their libraries and their books.
01:39:56.000So this is how I came upon much of the material, literally from widows who were horrified When they went into their dead husbands libraries and such and found the textbooks and such.
01:41:30.000Folks, world leaders travel from around the world.
01:41:33.000Helmut Schmidt, in his own autobiography, German Chancellor, said, we do Druid rituals in Germany, but my favorite place to do them is in America.
01:41:55.000And by the way, when you study the history of the Illuminati, something like Halloween and what happens at Halloween is fun and games, but it's serious for them.
01:42:06.000You know, we look back and we see things like the guillotine during the French Revolution as hideous and gruesome.
01:42:13.000It's almost like a Halloween-ish thing.
01:42:15.000But these were live human beings, thousands, brought to the guillotine with their heads cut off.
01:42:38.000And there again, we go back to the Bible.
01:42:41.000The great fire god, Baal, was worshipped by the ancients.
01:42:46.000So all of these things, they bring back the ancient mystery religions.
01:42:51.000And that's why I believe the witches go and howl at the moon.
01:42:56.000By the way, in a book called Under the Sign of the Scorpion, which we offer at PowerProcess.com, Jerry Lena, who did tremendous research in this book.
01:44:40.000Now that's not the astrology you read about in your newspaper when you want to know what, you know, for fun and games, the horoscope, the sun signs.
01:44:48.000There is a deep form of occult astrology.
01:44:52.000And they use this, and they use the witch's eight sabbaths each year.
01:44:56.000You know, all the way, they have a witch's calendar.
01:45:00.000And they frame all of their works around these days because they believe that this brings in, unleashes the powers from the spirit world.
01:45:11.000By the way, Robert Mueller, former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations, all of its 32 directorates reported to him Now, there is a Secretary General, but this guy actually runs the U.N.
01:45:52.000But Mueller says that the Rockefellers donated the money to buy the land on which the United Nations building sits.
01:46:02.000Okay, so we have the Rockefeller connection of the Illuminati.
01:46:06.000But then he says the reason that site was chosen there was because in decades past it had been used as a cattle slaughtering place.
01:46:17.000And he said thousands and thousands of cattle were brought there and slaughtered.
01:46:21.000He said the blood of these cows ran into the ground and made that a holy and sacred place.
01:46:28.000The sacrifice of the cows, their blood, makes the United Nations a holy place.
01:46:34.000Well, Tex, this is what you do as a scholar.
01:46:37.000You go get books that these world leaders wrote themselves.
01:46:40.000You put it in a big book, show pictures of them making hand signs, and have all this evidence, and still people are in denial.
01:46:47.000It's not like he didn't say this, and Schmidt didn't say this, and it isn't like Ronald Reagan, to the exact minute he gave a speech, was according to deep astrology.
01:46:57.000It's not like the Bushes and Kerry aren't skull and bones, aren't Bohemian Grove.
01:47:01.000I mean, their whole worlds revolve around this.
01:47:52.000That a Bill Clinton or a George W. Bush, and notice we've got Democrats and Republicans there, or a Hillary Clinton or a Laura Bush could be involved in this.
01:48:04.000Well, it is, because it totally destroys our concept of politics and government.
01:48:14.000I'll give you one example of this, Alex.
01:48:17.000I mentioned that Halloween was not celebrated in America until 1845.
01:48:22.000Here's something for your audience to get some meat onto.
01:48:26.000It was in 1845, I have it right here, the United States Congress passed the law which set the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November as Election Day.
01:48:38.000Now we have Election Day coming up this week, right?
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01:52:48.000Codex Magica, 620-something pages long, over a thousand pictures, secret over a thousand pictures, secret signs, mysterious symbols, and the hidden codes of the Illuminati.
01:53:11.000And you know, so much stuff about the occult that I've researched, it's baloney.
01:53:16.000And so many of these books about codes and the Bible and all this, more baloney.
01:53:21.000This is the dominant force in our world, our occultists, who think that we're a bunch of cattle, and they openly write about it in their memoirs, and countless widows get into their attics and find all this stuff.
01:53:35.000Like Charlotte Isserby, you know, she was high-level Reagan administration.
01:53:38.000Her dad was skull and bones, bohemian grove, and had like a deathbed confession and accepted Jesus before he died.
01:53:44.000She was taking care of him when he had cancer.
01:53:46.000He had to listen to her every day doing talk radio interviews about what was happening with education and he finally woke up and he said, oh yeah, he cried about being a member and said it was horrible, that's all he'd say.
01:53:58.000But the point is, is that it's not too late for people to turn back, but most of them have already totally gone over to the other side, so I guess it may be too late.
01:55:22.000Or go over to ConspiracyWorld.com and link through to get the phone number or text right there on that site as well.
01:55:30.000Tex, we're about to break and come back and start the next hour.
01:55:33.000We will go to John and Mike and Larry and Gary and others.
01:55:38.000For the person that has trouble understanding, you know, why this occult system is out there, and who buys into the propaganda that Christians are a bunch of nuts who just want to persecute, you know, these sweet little pagans, I don't think a lot of people realize that the pagans have also posed as Christians to carry out their sacrifices.
01:55:59.000Well, of course, they would have to do that.
01:56:02.000You know, Satan would love nothing better than to pollute the real Christian church.
01:56:07.000But I think more and more today, we're becoming aware of these things, we're becoming alert.
01:56:12.000And you know, I myself, when I was a young man growing up, I couldn't imagine anything, you know, being wrong with Halloween.
01:56:20.000It was a little frightening, a little bit scary.
01:56:23.000But I didn't know it was actually on a cult day, still in practice.
01:56:28.000You know, I recently read, and I know you have, the news headlines, this has been going on for several years, in Europe and Belgium.
01:56:36.000Now we find out that there's an entire network of politicians and judges throughout Europe that are tied with a child abduction, murder, snuff film production ring.
01:57:03.000You know, Fred Barnes, who puts the Saturday Review, or the National Review, one of the conservative magazines, said something on TV recently.
01:57:12.000He said, in all the history of the United States, a free mason has never been convicted of murder.
01:57:18.000You mentioned that, how they favor each other, the judges and so forth.
02:00:01.000I'm sure it's beautiful up in New England.
02:00:03.000But they actually have road signs, you know, inviting you into the land of the witches.
02:00:09.000And they have a picture of a witch riding a broom, supposedly.
02:00:14.000And I remember Governor Michael Dukakis, and I know John will remember this, he once had a little celebration, you might say, a little luncheon in his governor's mansion there, and he named one of the witches, I think it was Lori Cobbett or one of them, as the Commonwealth of Massachusetts official witch.
02:00:37.000And again, this is all supposed to be in great fun, but it's not so much fun.
02:00:41.000You know, I was recently reading a book Published in France, but now in English because it was so popular.
02:00:49.000It is entitled, Abortion as a Religious Sacrament.
02:00:55.000And the author of it says that abortion is a wonderful thing and witches and goddess advocates should support it.
02:01:03.000Because it is really the sacrifice of a live human being.
02:01:07.000Well, did you hear about coming in from Columbia, all of those dead babies inside the statues?
02:01:13.000It was hardly even in our news, it was in the BBC, being shipped in for rituals in Miami a month ago.
02:01:40.000Well, again, we get back to the ancient mystery of religions, and one of the things I show in Codex Magicka, whether it's Albert Pike, the former Sovereign Grand Commander of Freemasonry, all of the Satan worshippers and the leaders of the early Illuminati, all of them, ...believed, basically, in sacrifice.
02:02:04.000It's interesting that Pike, who actually used Indians during the Civil War to take the scalp of Yankee soldiers.
02:02:13.000He was a Civil War Confederate general.
02:02:16.000And it's interesting that his statue sits in front, or stands in front, of the U.S.
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02:07:09.000Tex, why do you think Chavez is out here saying this now?
02:07:13.000Well, of course, Chavez has been attacked, and even Pat Robertson, by the way, you're going to find that he is a high-level Freemason, and you'll see the actual hand signals that Pat Robertson uses in my book, Codex Magicka.
02:07:25.000So, Pat Robertson, the Seminary Club, is a tool of the elite, and they're all after Hugo Chavez, and you're absolutely right.
02:08:47.000That's what we're supposed to do as Christians, but what kind of example is it to send evil?
02:08:53.000To transmit evil throughout the world?
02:08:57.000With this holiday, and by the way, if we are, supposedly we were formed first as a Christian nation, and a lot of people say that's not true, but again, Halloween was not practiced among the people.
02:09:11.000It was brought over here by immigrants to the United States, and really began to get, in popular means, about 1845.
02:09:20.000So George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, they didn't know anything about Halloween.
02:09:23.000It would have been a grotesque thing for them.
02:09:27.000Well, let's be clear, even the Associated Press is on the history of Christmas, and I've had guests on and written books about that.
02:09:34.000Santa Claus, I think it was in 1820 or 1830 or so, they banned Christmas
02:09:40.000For a decade, because there were so many fires, so many murders, so many shootings in London, and everybody modeled that there were these groups of street thugs that would demand tricks or treats on Christmas as well, and they modeled after, and I've seen the old sketches of him from the period, he looks like Freddy Krueger, he's a criminal with gorilla arms, with striped stockings, and Santa Claus runs around basically stealing and murdering, And so now that's Coca-Cola, by the way.
02:10:10.000Santa, they made him popular in the 20s.
02:10:11.000He didn't even get popular in the 20s.
02:10:14.000Just one company, Coca-Cola, he's a friendly guy with a big beard.
02:10:19.000So they're even... Easter, Ishtar, the bunny rabbit, the eggs, you know, Playboy, sex, fertility folks, you know, the symbol Ishtar, the bunny.
02:11:40.000So, all of these shadowy names, of course, are synonyms when you really look into it.
02:11:46.000Because Jabilan means a combination of Yahweh, or Jehovah, Baal, and On, which is one of the names of the Egyptian god, Osiris.
02:11:57.000Tex, I want to jam a few final calls in here.
02:11:59.000I know you've got to go, and I'm going to move quick through these.
02:12:01.000But what is the New World Order's final master plan?
02:12:05.000If they had their way, what would things look like right now?
02:12:09.000Well, they're on their way to getting it.
02:12:11.000What they want is a utopia in which the elite philosophers, which they think is them.
02:12:16.000You can be as stupid as George Bush, but he believes he's a king philosopher, as you know, would have it back in Platonic, Plato-type literature.
02:12:25.000They want a utopia on Earth, which means the peasants, a feudalistic system, will be reinstituted, and the masses will be ruled over by this largely elite, And so that is the new world order.
02:12:41.000So they're going to use religion, economics, politics, all those areas to bring it to pass.
02:12:48.000And so they're working in every field, these custodians of what they call the plan.
02:14:01.000I had to call in when I heard that Tex was on your show, because I owe Tex a thanks.
02:14:05.000Several years ago, I made a missionary journey over to the Philippines, and at that time, Tex was offering free materials for missionaries, and his office was kind enough to send me four cases of books, which I handed out in the Philippines, and the people there were very grateful.
02:14:20.000Yeah, Tex is one of the most gracious people I know.
02:14:25.000You're way too kind to me, but thank you very much, Alex and Larry.
02:14:30.000I'd like to ask you a question, if I can.
02:14:33.000One of your tape series that I got several years ago, and by the way, you were the first person that turned me on to all of this New World Order stuff back in the 90s.
02:14:43.000But what I wanted to ask you about was one tape series that you had about People that were ducking out of the Vietnam War and going into seminaries and they really didn't do it for the right reasons.
02:15:55.000I was least interested in the Bohemian Grove and the occult aspect of it until I saw Bohemian Grove and found out there's Syria.
02:16:03.000They do that, you know, serious black magic stuff.
02:16:05.000I want to say, for most people, I'm sorry, I come from more on the left, and for most people Halloween is just, you know, make-believe, goofy stuff.
02:16:14.000But as far as the globalists, I think that, you know, we're doing a great job of exposing them, but right now they own the army, they own the media, they can cut you off in a minute, they own the banking system, dollars, voting, they put pig genes in our tomatoes and our food.
02:16:29.000You know what they did with the water in Bolivia, where they were charging people a quarter of their monthly income just to survive.
02:16:35.000So my question is, to restore American liberty, don't we really have to think about taking these things back from them?
02:16:43.000Not like Stalin or anything, but like a decentralized grassroots control.
02:16:50.000Okay, I appreciate your call, and I wish you'd call back some other day.
02:17:09.000The only thing I would add, Alex, is, you know, a lot of these organizations, I believe Sierra Club, environmental groups and such, They are actually controlled by the elite.
02:17:20.000They claim to be decentralized, but they're not.
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02:22:01.000They passed the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act for Homeland Security, page 76, because they couldn't get the states to do it three years ago.
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02:23:23.000We've had medical doctors on to cover this.
02:23:26.000They haven't taken it out of the shots.
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02:23:53.000Now this is really scary, and now they want to give them liability protection.
02:24:11.000But with these shots, they claim it's a medical thing, they claim it's a drug, they claim it's something that helps you, and it doesn't, and they knowingly do this, they need to be held accountable.
02:24:20.000We're going to break here in a few minutes, but she's going to be with us for the balance of the broadcast until about 50 after.
02:24:36.000Yeah, it's the latest in federal legislation since September 11, 2001.
02:24:44.000That is trying to totally absolve the vaccine makers from all liability for vaccine injuries and deaths and also protect anyone who's connected with giving these vaccines, any public health officials, any physicians who give the vaccines for what happens after they give them.
02:25:03.000And it all started with the Homeland Security bill after 9-1-1 and the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act, which were going through the states, being passed through the states.
02:25:16.000And then we have Project BioShield 2004, and now we have this latest legislation that is trying to take away all liability for whenever the Secretary of Health and Human Services declares even an imminent public health emergency, which gives great latitude there, that then they would be able to use even unlicensed drugs and vaccines on the people, and nobody would be held accountable if people died.
02:25:42.000And this is going to be forcible by the way, boys and girls.
02:25:45.000Yeah, I think that people really don't understand what they did with the Homeland Security bill.
02:25:53.000It was the most incredible reorganization of the checks and balances that we have had historically in power in this country.
02:26:06.000It's a giant cloaking device for public martial law.
02:26:09.000Ron Paul and many others are now saying that.
02:26:11.000And certainly, that's where they started to talk about And where they gave the power to the Secretary of HHS to declare even an imminent public health emergency and use, quote, substance or substances on the people.
02:26:24.000You know, whatever, that's very broad.
02:26:27.000And then, of course, Project BioShield 2004 went further, and in fact, you know, there have been a number of military personnel who have been forced to take the Antrax vaccine, which is basically an experimental vaccine and has never been licensed by the Food and Drug Administration.
02:26:41.000And that's illegal even with the military!
02:26:46.000No, and there's been a court case in the federal district court here, and there was a judge that said to Donald Rumsfeld, you may not give these soldiers this experimental vaccine without informed consent because it's experimental, it's against the law.
02:27:01.000And what they did, what the Secretary of Defense did in conjunction with the Secretary of HHS is invoke Project BioShield and had an emergency use authorization issued that got around that federal court order.
02:27:12.000So you see, already we're seeing what's happened when we give too much power to the executive branch.
02:27:18.000And folks, I mean they're doing this on purpose to the troops.
02:27:22.000Understand this is bioweapons testing on our own people.
02:27:26.000Oh boy, trouble, the deformities, and all sorts of health problems.
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02:32:06.000They've been running around yelling and screaming about that and hyperventilating and it turns out Rumsfeld's company is going to make between four and seven million dollars with this pill.
02:32:15.000And then one of the other companies has got connections into the White House making the flu vaccine.
02:32:20.000Which they admit doesn't even cover this supposed flu.
02:32:23.000So it's just a huge payoff in the tens of millions of dollars each year to these guys and then we find out what's in these vaccines.
02:32:31.000We have the CDC documents from 2000 where they said we've brain damaged millions but we've got to cover this up.
02:32:54.000They're setting this precedent, talking to the President, Barbara Lee Fisher, of the National Vaccine Organization that exposes all of this.
02:33:05.000And we're so honored to have her on with us today from the National Vaccine Information Center.
02:33:11.000Continuing with what we're facing, how do we beat this?
02:33:15.000Because they just keep coming back, coming back with this.
02:33:49.000Remember earlier this year, they passed the New Freedom Initiative, the Orwellian term, for forced psychological testing and drugging of all school-aged children?
02:33:59.000Forced testing for all, drugging of many.
02:34:01.000And the drug company's own internal documents said this was about money.
02:34:04.000We're going to be able to put half the kids on drugs now.
02:34:06.000I mean, literally, they just bought our politicians It's amazing because, of course, there's no liability attached.
02:34:12.000You talk about a stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare.
02:34:15.000I mean, imagine owning a business where you make people buy your product.
02:34:18.000It's amazing because, of course, there's no liability attached.
02:34:22.000You talk about a stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare.
02:34:25.000And I've always said, you know, that until the cop with the nurse and the syringe and the gun comes to your door, Americans are not going to wake up and realize the freedoms that we've given away.
02:34:38.000Now, one of the things is that public health laws, including those laws governing vaccination, have always been state laws.
02:34:47.000Constitution, anything that was not defined as a federal activity defaulted to the state.
02:34:52.000So, you're right that there's no federal law compelling vaccination yet, but there are state laws in the different states However, there have been exemptions that so far they've allowed people to get.
02:35:06.000But this, this is a big step in knocking that out.
02:35:09.000It started with Homeland Security, and yes, the Homeland Security law was the first time that the feds started to intrude upon the state's rights in this area.
02:35:20.000And people say that, oh, they'll never, you know, Homeland Security doesn't affect me, Patriot Act doesn't affect me.
02:35:27.000It does, and what the bigger plan is, of course, is once they can get all liability removed from those who make vaccines and drugs, those who give them to you, Well, I'll just say this.
02:35:40.000and that they be given to you, then there's no liability.
02:35:43.000Then they can, as you know, President Bush several weeks ago said he wanted to use the US military to forcibly quarantine people in the case of a flu epidemic or pandemic.
02:35:55.000Well, along with that is forced vaccination. - Well, I'll just say this.
02:35:58.000That's why they gave us the second amendment. - Yeah, and we also have the seventh amendment, which is our right to a trial by jury in front of a jury of our peers.
02:36:09.000This legislation totally destroys the 7th Amendment.
02:36:12.000Did you know that the former top CIA analyst for Ronald Reagan and Bush Sr.
02:36:16.000says the government may carry out terror attacks and set up martial law?
02:36:21.000Did you know Ron Paul said the government wants to use this vaccine system to declare martial law and get our guns?
02:36:28.000So many prominent people are now saying we are actually becoming a commie Nazi system.
02:36:35.000I mean, America really is going into a total dictatorship very soon.
02:36:42.000You know, I never thought I would feel that our country is in danger and that we have so eroded the fundamental principles of the Constitution when it comes to civil liberties.
02:36:54.000Our founders came here because they were fleeing from oppression by kings and queens.
02:37:03.000But that British oppression isn't a thimble compared to this washtub of evil we're now seeing.
02:37:10.000Certainly, if we cannot have control over what we put in our bodies and the bodies of our children, we can in no sense be free.
02:37:18.000In my opinion, it's a human right to determine what you're willing to risk your life for.
02:37:24.000Barbara, why don't you tell people what they found in the vaccines confirmed?
02:37:32.000When you go and you do the research and you find out how vaccines are made and you find that You know they're using animal cell substrates like monkey kidney cells to make vaccines.
02:37:45.000We had a problem a lot of people don't realize that the polio vaccine both the killed and live polio was contaminated with a monkey virus that is now Uh, been associated with brain, bone, and lung cancers in both humans, I mean, in both children and adults.
02:37:58.000Conclusively proven due to the explosive growth rate of many rare cancers that are now quite common, SV40, but there are new viruses, new cancer viruses they're finding in vaccines.
02:38:21.000Yeah, you know, it's, I think that there's just been this sort of blind spot with Congress and with the public about vaccines because there's been this incredible promotion that the polio vaccine, the smallpox vaccine, and all these vaccines have saved humanity from infectious diseases.
02:38:39.000And now they're openly saying, hey, we're not going to clean them up.
02:38:41.000In fact, we're going to make them as dirty as we want.
02:38:44.000Well, unfortunately, with this liability protection, they can do whatever they want to.
02:38:47.000And the other thing about this bill, That Senate Bill 1873 is that they are setting up this entity that is going to keep secret from the people.
02:38:59.000You can't, under the Freedom of Information Act, get any information about the way these vaccines and drugs are made.
02:39:05.000Yeah, keeping science and reporting and all of this secret.
02:39:12.000Yeah, and so the problem is you'll never be able to go to court to prove, like with the tobacco companies, they were, you know, you need to be able to go into court and hold industries.
02:39:23.000Now Bush already gave Eli Lilly protection, but we got that stripped.
02:39:29.000We organized a call-in campaign, and a fax campaign, and we got the thimerosal rider that protected the makers of the thimerosal, the mercury preservatives and vaccines.
02:39:42.000They waited, and now they're going to achieve what they did not achieve in Homeland Security.
02:39:47.000They're going to achieve with this piece of... And people wonder why you never hear this on the nightly news.
02:39:51.000Half the advertisers I've already said this just from watching TV, but I've seen reports, news reports, and industry publications on advertising expenditures.
02:40:01.000About half of, in your average newscast, right around half, of the ads are drug maker ads.
02:40:08.000And they all have their vaccine divisions.
02:40:10.000So literally, half the news budget is being paid for by the drug makers.
02:40:16.000Well just think, if you have a product that is mandated to be used by every single citizen born in this country... But the media won't expose it because half their money, half their profits are from the drug makers!
02:40:28.000I don't know what, you know, the only thing I can, what we need to do is, as citizens, we need to stand up and we need to get to our elected representatives.
02:40:37.000And if our elected representatives won't listen to what we say, we have to elect new representatives.
02:40:42.000Yeah, we've got to have recalls about this.
02:40:45.000Barbara continuing here, you know, trying to look at this big picture of what we're facing.
02:40:52.000People need to realize there are 200 vaccines in the research pipeline that are literally being developed to prevent every single infectious disease you can think of.
02:41:03.000And you know there's never been any research into whether preventing all illness in childhood and as adults is really good for us.
02:41:11.000I mean obviously we've had illness on this earth since man walked the earth.
02:41:17.000You know, there are some scientists and physicians who are thinking independently and saying maybe getting sick once in a while is not bad for you, but is actually good for you.
02:41:25.000Well, it's just like antibiotics has now given rise to superbugs that eat your skin.
02:41:31.000I know people who have been on antibiotics for 10 years, they're totally unhappy and they can't get off of them now because they don't have an immune system and now it isn't even working for them.
02:41:48.000They're now talking about making your child take hundreds of shots, literally on a daily basis, injectors filled with every toxin you can imagine.
02:42:00.000I mean, this is like a science fiction horror movie.
02:42:02.000Well, I'm afraid people are going to have to wake up and see that just because Smallpox vaccine eradicated smallpox and polio vaccine took polio out.
02:42:11.000Does it mean that we have to use a vaccine for literally every disease known to man?
02:42:16.000You know, they're not doing the proper scientific research that needs to be done to look at this issue.
02:42:21.000They're just going blindly down the road saying more is better.
02:42:25.000You know, that we can take an unlimited number of vaccines.
02:42:28.000I mean, it doesn't even make any sense logically.
02:42:31.000Well, they even admit that they have a vaccine to stop kids having earaches, but they admit that vaccine is very dangerous.
02:42:37.000They have the meningitis shot, but they admit that's a very dangerous shot and doesn't even protect you in all cases.
02:43:05.000They also, barely, it was barely defeated, they wanted to pass a law to give every child in England an injection of a vaccine with a live virus that was actually going to attack key nerve centers in the brain to, quote, cure children so they would never use cocaine, heroin, nicotine, or any other opiate.
02:43:27.000Folks, imagine a vaccine with a virus that actually creates a type of chemical lobotomy.
02:44:02.000Well, I think people just don't understand because so many of these laws are passed quietly and that's one of the reasons that our organization, and we've been doing this vaccine safety work for 23 years, Put out a press release and said, you know, people wake up, see what's happened.
02:45:30.000It attacks the brain so that you can't have these receptors plugged in by the opiates or by the nicotine.
02:45:36.000But then I talked to a medical doctor.
02:45:38.000I already knew it, but I talked to a brain expert about it on air and he said, well, of course, this will plug up the receptor where you can't feel good when you score the touchdown or you do good at work or your wife has that first child.
02:45:51.000I mean, If they destroy the receptors in the brain for those pleasures, those drugs simply mimic natural receptor points.
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02:52:35.000Yeah, basically, um, everyone's forced to take this drug that... Emotions are banned in the future because emotions result in anger and violence and all that stuff, so everyone is turned into mindless zombies.
02:53:33.000You realize we're in a science fiction horror movie.
02:53:36.000This is, all you can do is fight at that point.
02:53:39.000When these dumb, dumb, dumb cops come with stupid troops, who've all had their injections, and all are following orders now, they're all going to be feeling fine.
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02:53:59.000That's the normal response to this stuff.
02:54:22.000Well, um, you know, for 15 years or so, I've been aware of, and incrementally, of various things you talk about on the show, and I've always thought that I've done a good job of finding out about it, trying to protect myself and my family, until I learned recently that I guess I'm a complete moron, because I've been poisoning myself for the last 25 years, and I've been doing it with dental amalgam.
02:54:45.000Well, let me tell you, Dental Amalgam is at 1.1 billionth as bad as these vaccines.
02:54:54.000I'm having all of them out, you know, as soon as I can, but it's unsettling, though, to know that, like, for example, I looked online and I found the Material Data Safety Sheet for a product called Dispersaloid.
02:55:10.000And, you know, if you go to a regular dentist, he'll tell you that there's nothing wrong with amalgams.
02:55:34.000Yeah, I was just going to say, Equilibrium is a good film, but if you want to see a film that really describes the New World Order, there's a good one with Ewan McGregor called The Island you've got to see.
02:55:45.000I'm just going to read a quick headline out of the UK Daily Mirror.
02:55:49.000Our envoy loses satellite phone, Iraqi rebels find it, run up a £500,000 bill calling al-Qaeda in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, if you can believe that.