A woman who lost a loved one in Vietnam reveals that he was alive until the 80s, and that he died in a slave labor camp. And our government has been fighting to cover it up. Big Brother. Mainstream media. Government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he.
00:00:57.000Coming up in the next hour, we have a lady coming on who lost a loved one in Vietnam, and our own government's documents and witnesses admit that he was alive until the 80s, and that he died in a slave labor camp.
00:01:09.000And our government, John McCain, has been fighting to cover it up.
00:01:13.000But really, as horrible as that is, it's part of the course.
00:01:17.000Our government admittedly let the Russians have over 20,000 U.S.
00:01:24.000servicemen that were in German detention camps, let them have them, and didn't even say a word, and they were used for medical experiments on the Kamchatka Peninsula, and many other areas.
00:01:40.000And that is declassified and publicly admitted.
00:01:43.000So next time you're loving the government, and licking their boots, and worshipping them, remember, they take... In World War II, they were already that evil.
00:01:53.00020,000 plus was around 24,000 troops total.
00:01:57.000US troops, several thousand British as well.
00:02:00.000And just sayonara, Stalin wants you, Stalin gets you.
00:02:05.000They've already given much of Eastern Europe and other areas, Central Europe, to Stalin, Mr. Steele, so he could conduct extermination operations.
00:02:15.000After all, he was a globalist stoolie, a globalist minion, a globalist bank-robbing thug enforcer who helped bring their boy Vladimir Lenin to power.
00:02:27.000So it's the same thing over and over and over again.
00:02:31.000So just remember how much they hate you.
00:02:35.000It's like that story we covered that was in major Jewish newspapers a few months ago.
00:03:24.000Oh, but Saddam Hussein is evil because we claim he had rape rooms.
00:03:28.000But then our government sets up rape rooms, and it's defended by all the same neocons that decried the hypothetical rape rooms before.
00:03:36.000Okay, there's a lot of news here, a lot of serious weighty news today.
00:03:43.000In 30 minutes, I have a gentleman joining us.
00:03:46.000Who came on briefly yesterday, and he's got photos and videos now that we're going to be getting on the web here in the next few days.
00:03:54.000And I called the school, and they're not denying it.
00:03:59.000They're not even returning phone calls, but we have talked to them.
00:04:03.000They go, well, there are some troops here, but they're just helping.
00:04:05.000And the troops are there to make sure the kids behave themselves.
00:04:09.000Just troops at a middle school, Zachary Middle School down in San Antonio.
00:04:14.000And so, our guest will be joining us, just for about 10 minutes or so, at the bottom of this hour, and then the next hour, the poor lady, concerning her loved one.
00:04:24.000And our government just, you know, could care less about it.
00:04:26.000And she's dug up a lot on Senator McCain, who really wasn't in those slave camps most of the time.
00:04:33.000He was traveling around lavishly in Eastern Europe, enjoying himself.
00:04:37.000Always been a good agent of the globalists, via the Moscow route.
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00:08:33.000Went to the Zachary Middle School by 1604 in Calabria down in San Antonio and there were troops in camouflage marching around.
00:08:46.000Today they're in desert storm style battle fatigues with their walkie-talkies reporting walking children across the street.
00:08:55.000And he called in and told us about it yesterday.
00:08:58.000We've since called the school and confirmed that's going on but they won't give us any comment on it.
00:09:02.000There's just troops there for some reason.
00:09:05.000And these schools are already being turned into prisons.
00:09:08.000And now they're going to have the new Freedom Initiative with forced psychological testing and forced psychological drugging with using the diagnosis off of guidelines written up by the drug companies themselves and their own memos are now public where they brag, hey we'll go from 10% of the kids on our drugs to half of them.
00:09:52.000So the message is, it's not just enough to have cops on the schools and frisking everyone and ID cards and fences and locking doors and being sealed in like prisoners and being questioned.
00:10:07.000And all over the country, from Missouri To Texas, to Pensacola, Florida.
00:10:15.000We have had troops come in and do urban warfare drills.
00:10:17.000We've had troops come in and announce, in 1998, Pensacola, Florida, this is martial law, get down on the floor, we're taking over!
00:10:26.000Screaming at them with M-16s pointed at them, obviously unloaded, at least the press report said, but the kids were crying and at the end they said, Bill Clinton wants you to know what martial law is like.
00:10:39.000Now, that's a quote from the Pensacola News Journal.
00:11:18.000They didn't want to believe those documents.
00:11:19.000I even got emails and claims that those were fake FEMA people and fake rooms full of police officers.
00:11:25.000You know, the cameras at the back of the room, there's a room full of cops.
00:11:29.000And I just hired all these fake people.
00:11:31.000It's like I've been accused in Urban Warrior of having the Coronado of a battle carrier ship, almost the size of an aircraft carrier, the next class down, and dozens of helicopters and hovercrafts and thousands of troops.
00:11:43.000I hired them all because people saw the role players saying, I'm an American police, no, not the camp.
00:11:49.000And Americans being interrogated about where their guns were.
00:13:52.000Ron Paul, the Congressman, Paul Craig Roberts, a high-level Reagan official, number two at the Treasury, editor of the Wall Street Journal was saying this last week.
00:14:03.000I mean, there's countless prominent people that we've had on.
00:14:07.000If I went through all of them, it would take hours, who've been saying, yes, it's true, yes, it's happening.
00:14:11.000Tommy Frank says, yeah, one more attack, we've got to martial law.
00:14:35.000But we're going to have Elijah Romo on because he has a lot of courage and we appreciate him for getting involved and getting some video and taking some photos.
00:15:16.000They had Marines dressed up in police uniforms 17 years ago that we have confirmed from the documents, from the photos, from the individuals that did it.
00:15:27.000The fella then became a police officer, then became a computer company owner, now he's middle class, he's driving up I-35, this is even before 9-11, and there's just suddenly troops out.
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00:18:25.000I mean, even back when I was a kid, which wasn't that long ago, there was always some kid in the neighborhood whose dad had a boxing ring in the back yard and we'd go put gloves on and bash each other in the face with it.
00:18:36.000Can you imagine neighbors calling the police?
00:18:39.000And I went and watched some of these videos online.
00:19:12.000I mean, it's just kids with boxing gloves.
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00:24:09.000and one on my chest, a gun on my hip and the right to arrest.
00:24:13.000I'm the guy who's a boss on the highway.
00:24:16.000Let me just finish up my comments on the situation with the evil high schoolers boxing, having a boxing club out in a public park in front of everyone.
00:25:54.000And there have been reports all over the country of where during lunch the middle schoolers will run out behind the baseball fields or wherever and pull out of their own backpack their own dodgeball.
00:26:05.000Come on, let's do it, let's play it up!
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00:27:52.000Ten in windows, I'd mount a camera on the top, take an hour, and I would just go park in East Austin, and I would show cop cars driving right past people selling rock cocaine.
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00:39:51.000Now, we're going to go to Elijah Romo.
00:39:55.000And we're honored to have Elijah on with us and he's gotten some photos and some video that we're going to be getting up in the next few days and getting a story out today.
00:40:02.000A little blurb out on this today and then a more lengthy story to give us enough time by next week with the photos and the video.
00:40:10.000And Elijah Romo went to pick up his children there at the Zachary Middle School by 1604 in Calabria.
00:40:20.000And Elijah, just start at the beginning and then move through what has now happened subsequently, sir, please.
00:41:08.000As I was driving back from dropping off my son from school and as I was going on a four-way stop, I saw These men dressed in military fatigues.
00:41:30.000So you're driving along, you see men in military fatigues.
00:41:33.000And then, as I turned the corner, I decided to go inside the campus, outside the campus, and I saw a campus police officer, and I asked him, You know, what was going on, and then I guess he was already expecting, you know, he was already anticipating what I was going to say.
00:41:53.000And then he says, oh, okay, you know, you're not the first one.
00:41:58.000We just hired these people because of the fact that the principal felt that there was a lot of disturbance with the students outside, and so they decided to hire these people to act as crossing guards.
00:42:18.000So just out in the open, we need to call in troops, because the kids have not been behaving.
00:42:36.000Please continue, Elijah, because you began to dig in to what was really going on.
00:42:40.000Well, when I decided to, when I went back home and I decided to call the school and at the school they said that they're volunteers, not to worry about anything, that they're volunteers and that they're devoting their time and so forth.
00:42:57.000But I'm thinking, you know, you're reading the paper or you're seeing the TV that you've got these reserves and that we're depleted in resources and troops and then you have a mass crossing guard.
00:43:15.000And the Northside School District, I mean, they got plenty of volunteers.
00:43:19.000If you ask the volunteers, people are just willing to volunteer.
00:43:25.000Well, right here in front of my office every day, there's a nice retired Hispanic gentleman.
00:43:31.000He wears his old military cap, his veteran's cap, and he's out there helping the kids cross the street every day.
00:43:36.000I mean, there's plenty of people that want to volunteer.
00:43:39.000That's total balderdash that we need troops to do it.
00:43:42.000But notice you get from the security guard that, because we've had some disturbances, now what did you hear from the school when you talked to them?
00:43:50.000Well, they told me not to be alarmed that this was something that they wanted to try something different.
00:43:57.000And that the principal, if I'm correct, this is the name of the game, Ms.
00:44:02.000Martinez, that she thought that with these type of people that they could get a little bit more respect from them.
00:44:12.000Ah, the troops will intimidate and get the children in line.
00:44:21.000I was taking pictures and I took a disposable camera and also a camcorder and one of the campus police officers, I got a little bit nervous because as he was approaching me, he was looking at what I was doing and I was afraid that he was going to confiscate my
00:44:49.000My camera and, um... Were you on the school grounds?
00:44:53.000I was in three different locations on the school.
00:44:55.000And the third one was to get a better angle.
00:45:00.000Well, look, you have great courage, sir, but let me just give you the background.
00:46:30.000The very first time in the morning I asked them because I came back in the afternoon.
00:46:34.000But in the morning was when I didn't have anything, when I didn't have a car.
00:46:37.000Now let's make clear though, I believe you said on air yesterday or it might have been on the cell phone when we were talking after the show, didn't the jail guard, they're not really campus cops, didn't the prison guard or the prison social worker training the children how to be prisoners, didn't the prison inductee, Individual?
00:46:59.000Didn't they tell you that they, oh yeah, we've already heard people complain about the troops?
00:47:07.000Well, yes, it's like they were already anticipating what I was going to say because they were already talking to somebody that was probably a concerned parent.
00:49:15.000It was for terrorism, and what they were using was... I'm familiar with the Edgewood School District.
00:49:20.000It's a poor district, and they used...
00:49:23.000The poverty districts to do all these tourism exercises and they were also using the portable buildings that they use, the portables to do some, you know, that scenario where somebody comes and brings a gun and They do lockdown and... Was the military involved?
00:50:18.000Oh, the... Just over and over, and then magically the terrorism appears right on time, and... And I'm not too sure if you're familiar with the National Security Agency.
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00:54:28.000A whole stack, as usual, of just incredible news are in front of me.
00:54:32.000Internationally, nationally, more evidence of government-sponsored terror.
00:54:37.000Clearly, now, the evidence of the preponderance of the evidence points directly at Western intelligence involvement in the bombings over in Jordan last week.
00:54:50.000We're talking to Elijah Romo, who was dropping off his son to school down the street from the Zachary Middle School, and he drove by and saw troops out there.
00:54:59.000Now, you said you saw more troops out there today, correct sir?
00:55:05.000Yes, uh, there were, uh, I don't know if there were, um, uh, changing, uh, from the people that were outside with the people that were inside the building.
00:55:16.000So, uh, it's kind of hard to get closer with, uh, with the campus police and stuff like that.
00:55:23.000Well, this is just like drug pushers targeting children with cocaine and heroin.
00:55:30.000They're trying to move in in a controlled environment where the parents are shut out.
00:55:34.000Notice the schools all over the country won't let you in now, or you've got a thumb scan to get in, or there's fences and it's all secretive, and there's counselors pushing drugs, and school district psychiatrists walking around with stethoscopes.
00:55:47.000You know, it's just all real scary and spooky, and now troops marching around.
00:55:52.000What's that man out there doing with that camera?
00:55:56.000And you call the schools up and, well, there are some troops here, but we just can't talk about it.
00:56:12.000Anything else you'd like to add, Elijah, about what's happening?
00:56:15.000Yes, what I did like to add was that I contacted a couple of TV stations and WOAI, which is a major radio station here in San Antonio, and nobody was interested.
00:56:31.000And I was kind of surprised because, you know, I might be wrong, but what does the military have to do with, you know, Being in the public school setting.
00:56:43.000Well, they passed a law that they're allowed to aggressively recruit inside the classrooms of Point Blank Range, but this isn't even that.
00:57:10.000What did the troops do when they saw you out there with a camera?
00:57:13.000Well, the fact that they couldn't leave their area, that was to my advantage because I knew that I was at a certain amount of distance to where I wasn't too close to them, to where they wouldn't confront me.
00:59:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:16.000In the movie Red Dawn, set during a Soviet takeover of the Midwest, In the Rocky Mountains, there are troops in the grocery stores, at the mall, on the streets, tattletailing neighbors.
00:59:29.000Now, they find plenty of mayors who are willing to, you know, serve them.
00:59:34.000That's the Hollywood nightmare image, or in the real world, in Cuba, or in Russia, or in Nazi Germany.
00:59:41.000But, it's happening right here in America.
00:59:45.000The troops are openly trying to take your guns, break you and your family up.
00:59:49.000Now, something that was covered up years ago is public.
01:00:38.000This is what it looks like when Hitler takes over.
01:00:40.000We're fighting it right now, but the average person just can't believe what's going on.
01:00:44.000You know, I believe that a lot of Germans didn't know that the Nazis were killing people, because people live with their heads in the dirt.
01:00:51.000All they're thinking about is themselves, and their bank account, and how cool they are, or how much beer they're going to drink.
01:00:59.000And there could be a smokestack burning human body parts a mile away.
01:01:07.000Real fast, letting our guest finish up who discovered this, and we have confirmed it, it's going on in San Antonio and other areas, Elijah Romo.
01:01:13.000He mentioned a particular command base down there in San Antonio.
01:01:18.000I'm familiar with these all over the country, where they move the Army, the National Guard, the police, FEMA, all in together, and then of course FEMA is giving all the orders, a lot of the CIA liaison, but tell us about the command base down in San Antonio.
01:01:31.000Well, it's called Transguard, and the pretext is that It's for emergency purposes.
01:01:39.000They have these screens in the freeways where they say there's a major accident up ahead.
01:01:45.000And, you know, it's supposed to help the congestion.
01:01:53.000It's when there's an emergency that the federal brain can control everything.
01:02:18.000If it's for anything but religious or anything anti-government, if it's anti... Of course, if you're going over there to present something critical of them, then of course they will not Do that, but it's cameras all over the city and it's to monitor.
01:02:40.000That's your local FEMA command base, emergency management center.
01:02:45.000Yes, and they have even the hospitals that represent the hospitals, representing the, you know, fire department, police department, the county, you know, TxDOT, And the thing about that is that they also have all the major, they have cameras in the major intersections, in all the intersections.
01:03:12.000And I know San Antonio is an experiment, San Antonio, and if I'm correct, San Diego, because San Diego and San Antonio, we're close to the border.
01:03:23.000And they have a... No, no, you hit the nail on the head.
01:03:26.000San Antonio had the weird license plate scanners and the antennae and all of it before Houston or Dallas even did.
01:03:34.000I remember ten years ago... Actually, I have all of the material that they were providing to the citizens and... Well, I'll tell you what, I can't wait to get the video you shot and the photos you took and to get it up on the website.
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01:07:18.000A lot of key indices coming out today that have come out today on the economy.
01:07:24.000You know, I saw this article by Greg Zeminski, wife of POW and Navy pilot, and I was actually familiar with her case.
01:07:32.000Who had her husband's remains sent home by North Vietnamese in 1989, was lied to by U.S.
01:07:38.000officials for years about his whereabouts and POW status.
01:07:41.000Diane Van Rensselaer says she still hasn't gotten the truth about her husband from the military and lawmakers including Senator John McCain.
01:07:50.000Or the Queen of Hearts, who she claims is no friend of POW families and has backstabbed them every step of the way toward getting at the truth.
01:07:59.000Now let me just say this, this is a long article Greg put together, but let me just say this.
01:08:43.000And they knew they were going to be taken to the Philippines.
01:08:45.000And they had to have plans to evacuate the population.
01:08:47.000And the ships were literally half empty.
01:08:48.000They could have masses of personnel and the citizenry get out of there.
01:08:52.000And there was a memo put out by Roosevelt where they stated, this will be great anti-Japanese propaganda if they capture not just troops, but women and children.
01:09:05.000And so our military, the Navy and the Marines were ordered to not let them evacuate on government ships.
01:09:17.000And over half of them, over 4,000 of them, died in custody.
01:09:20.000And I've interviewed people who were 7-year-old little girls and watched their mother being raped, their father having their head cut off, slave labor, you name it.
01:09:59.000And Stalin wanted him, and our government was making a deal with him, giving him much of Eastern Europe and Central Europe, even though he was killing more people than Hitler.
01:10:07.000And they just said, hey, do what you want.
01:11:09.000And of course it's well known that there were troops in slave camps in Vietnam, at least up until the late 80s.
01:11:15.000It's well known they worked them to death.
01:11:17.000It's well known that they did experiments on them.
01:11:19.000It's well known they shipped them to Russia.
01:11:23.000I mean, our government paid the equivalent of $50 billion dollars, $3 billion at the time, over 10 years from 1950 to 1960 to radiate 110,000 Jewish children just to test what radiation would do.
01:11:56.000Big, final, finally, big mainstream media reports today about DU and massive burnt defects in our troops and Iraqis and Serbs and everybody else.
01:12:05.000Just all the major scientific reports, but I've got mining reports, thanks to listeners, and major federal government bureau mine reports about how DU is totally radioactive and deadly poison back in the 1980s.
01:12:39.000The average person's thinking about, man, it is a really blue sky day.
01:12:42.000I wish I could go play hooky and actually consider it and go fishing or go hang out with my children and my wife.
01:12:48.000The average person isn't running around scheming about global domination and how to take over the population, how to dumb people down, how to build urban systems to control populations.
01:13:01.000They're in control because they do think about that!
01:13:04.000And they're in control because we're naive and believe their propaganda and empower their criminal system by being part of their compartmentalized structure.
01:13:14.000Well, we're here to shatter the compartmentalization.
01:13:17.000We're here to blow past it and shatter it and expose it.
01:13:22.000Now, I've interviewed military officers, people who were above McCain, who were in these camps.
01:13:47.000And if you don't think he didn't get sent off to the Soviets, if you don't think he didn't have all that happen, then he's got another thing coming.
01:13:54.000McCain's always been a gun-grabbing, un-American, open-border-promoting, Keating Five-scamming criminal!
01:14:01.000But of course, the average American knows him as anti-corruption.
01:14:04.000Because he's the most corrupt, he'll be known as Mr. Anti-Corruption.
01:14:09.000And, uh, Diane Van Resler just does a great job exposing this and a lot of her sources.
01:14:19.000So we're going to have her with us now.
01:14:20.000I appreciate her holding for the last five minutes while I ran through here some background.
01:14:23.000But frankly, you know, Stalin said, one man dies, it's a tragedy.
01:14:53.000I think you presented one of the finest examples of the fact that our leadership considers American citizens, especially military personnel, expendable in pursuit of foreign policy objectives.
01:15:07.000And that's what happened to my husband.
01:15:09.000He simply was not worth the price of recovery After the Department of Defense learned that he was being used as slave labor, along with hundreds of other military pilots in Southeast Asia.
01:15:23.000And the Pick and Shovel Brigade, as it was called by the National Security Agency, was comprised mainly of two American pilots who had engineering degrees or experience with engineering.
01:15:37.000And my husband fit into that category.
01:15:39.000He was also the youngest pilot in the fleet.
01:15:47.000And those communist pieces of trash used him up as a slave.
01:15:50.000I think it's a cultural thing for the Vietnamese.
01:15:55.000Because they're very small people and most of our guys are big guys.
01:15:59.000So for them to exert that kind of physical control over them was necessary and cultural for the Vietnamese.
01:16:08.000But the fact that our Department of Defense knew, the Joint Chiefs of Staff were briefed on the fact that these men were being used as slave labor to build a very large underground warehouse north of the Demilitarized Zone in southern North Vietnam.
01:16:24.000We did not even notify our South Vietnamese allies.
01:16:29.000Well, we could have done the men a favor and at least bombed that facility with them in it.
01:16:33.000Well, actually, Richard Nixon did lift the bombing controls on areas of Laos and we had B-52 raids that may very well have killed some of our POWs.
01:16:44.000Well, I hate to sound sick, but I mean, I think better than leaving them as slaves, might as well kill them and their captors.
01:16:50.000I mean, I know you lost your husband, so I apologize if that sounds crass.
01:16:55.000There is a book called Spite House by Monica Jensen Stevenson, and in it, Colonel Tom McKinney, a Marine officer, tells of how he recruited Marine snipers to go in after the war and kill American POWs.
01:17:10.000The snipers were told that the men were Actually, deserters and... Oh, I saw that!
01:17:18.000I'm saying, if they're in some giant military base and you have no intention of saving them, you might as well... But again, it shows the war was never even meant to be won.
01:17:26.000No, there was... In fact, there was no real objective.
01:17:30.000There was no definition of victory in Vietnam, and my husband and everyone else who died there Essentially died for nothing.
01:17:38.000They died for the good of the American stock market.
01:17:50.000It doesn't change, but I mean, how do they just leave these men who totally serve their system?
01:17:56.000This has been State Department policy since the beginning of the 20th century.
01:18:00.000We had American troops who were left at our gangles during the Russian Revolution.
01:18:06.000And General, uh, General, President Eisenhower was briefed on Americans who were captured during Cold War ferret flights, and we sent in planes to test the Soviet radar defenses.
01:18:17.000And when these planes were downed, and their crews were captured, and the Soviets didn't admit to having them, we, we didn't negotiate for them.
01:18:24.000There were plans to negotiate for several crews, but it never happened.
01:18:33.000Well, it's like the quote in Paths of Glory about, you know, that's what young men are for, dying.
01:18:37.000It's just so... I mean, your husband, you know, fighting for this country, believing what he was doing was right, and then just being shucked off to some slave camp.
01:18:46.000I mean, put a bullet in before that happens, folks.
01:18:49.000I really look forward to this interview.
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01:22:02.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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01:23:26.000Let's talk about your husband, what happened to him, and then I want to go through the players who helped ensure that he was never rescued, and then try to cover up what really happened to your husband, please.
01:23:37.000Well, Larry Van Rensselaer and I met in high school, Rancho High School, Las Vegas, Nevada.
01:23:43.000And he became a naval aviation cadet at the worst time, in the middle of the war.
01:23:49.000And when he was in the training command, the squadron operations officer was, or not squadron, it was the training command at Meridian, Mississippi, was John McCain.
01:23:58.000And I had no idea that John McCain would play such a role in my husband's, in my life later.
01:24:20.000But he never, never, never thought or believed or even considered the fact that he could be abandoned.
01:24:28.000But that's what happened to him after he was captured, September the 30th, 1968.
01:24:33.000And his crewman Dominic Spinelli, the oldest man in the squadron, was reported alive in Cambodia in 1993.
01:24:40.000And the Spinelli family asked the State Department, Warren Gray in particular, who was going to Cambodia, if he was going to ask the Cambodians about Lieutenant Spinelli.
01:24:50.000That's the attitude in the State Department.
01:24:55.000It's just, that's ancient history and we're writing them off.
01:24:58.000There are overwhelming reports of Americans alive in Southeast Asia.
01:25:03.000In fact, the reports are so overwhelming that when Clinton was the President, he signed an executive order preventing The intelligence gathering on live prisoners in Southeast Asia.
01:25:14.000Carter tried to close the book in 1977 by allowing the Department of Defense to make judgments.
01:25:21.000And literally, literally, hundreds of police stations have POW MIA flags, but so many quote leaders of the POW MIA movement, aren't they just little pimps of the same system?
01:26:19.000I was on the Board of Directors of the League of Families at the time and I was back in Washington.
01:26:24.000I was in touch with investigators and these investigators who were hired were very qualified for the most part and they told me that they had There was evidence that men were left behind and there was evidence that men were still alive.
01:26:41.000But there is no resolve on the part of this government to negotiate for them because the policy is these men are considered hostages and we do not negotiate for hostages.
01:26:53.000Reagan, Ronald Reagan, was inaugurated in 1981.
01:26:59.000The first thing that happened in January, he was offered Prisoners by the Vietnamese in exchange for $2.5 billion.
01:27:11.000And two Secret Service agents who were in Reagan's office overheard him discussing the offer with George Bush, with George Shultz, who was the Secretary of State.
01:27:20.000And George Bush said it's a lost cause.
01:27:22.000And George Shultz, the Secretary of State, said we can't negotiate for hostages.
01:27:28.000Reagan did send in people like Bogreiz and teams to discover whether or not our prisoners could be rescued.
01:27:35.000And it was discovered they could be and then it was also determined that it would be very embarrassing and detrimental to military morale to bring these men back at that time.
01:27:46.000And so what was done was done covertly.
01:27:51.000There is a growing body of evidence that we were forced to accept prisoners back in the mid 80s.
01:27:57.000And these men were called secret returnees.
01:27:59.000They were brought back, they were given their pay, and they were not allowed to contact their families.
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01:31:50.000We'll be talking more with Diane Van Rensselaer about her husband who was left behind and used up as a slave of the Vietnamese.
01:32:16.000But it's just part of the course, coming up here in just a few minutes.
01:32:19.000And the story just gets deeper and darker and meshes with all the deep research I've done over the last 10 years plus on this subject and the people I've interviewed.
01:32:28.000I mean, I've interviewed folks who've been there, who've seen the POWs.
01:32:33.000And then it'll quietly be in our news over the last 15, 20 years, as I said last hour.
01:32:40.000Where they found World War II Korean vets, and they're usually mentally ill, living in some Asian city, totally broken down, and when they're done with them, I guess they feel sorry for them if they're kind of mentally broken, or it's like some type of pleasure, and they just kind of release them.
01:33:10.000After World War II, that they got into German camps, and Colonel Roberts has been on many times with us to talk about that, Colonel Craig Roberts.
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01:37:05.000Alright, let's go back now to our guest, again, who is joining us.
01:37:10.000And we really appreciate her coming on with us.
01:37:12.000Diane, continuing with this saga of your husband shot down in 1968, and then let's go through it blow by blow and bring us up to speed, because what you write about, what you talk about with these military witnesses and others about McCain being this double agent, being this traitor, we know he was a prize.
01:37:34.000I mean, his daddy was the head of the Navy.
01:37:37.000Go through that for us, because that fits into the things he does today.
01:37:41.000And he acts like he's for the vets when he's really stabbing them in the back.
01:37:46.000It's like he's known for fighting corruption when he's part of the Keating Five.
01:37:55.000And what I find most disturbing is that he has presidential aspirations.
01:38:00.000And this is a man who was compromised by the North Vietnamese and apparently by the Soviets, the Communists in Eastern Europe during the war.
01:39:46.000When you think they're losing, they're winning.
01:39:47.000When they, quote, lose the war on drugs and quadruple the prison population and there's triple the heroin and double the cocaine on the streets, you go, the more they put in jail, the more drugs there are.
01:40:01.000Well, my concern is that as bad as it is now, with the leadership in Washington, having a president like McCain, who has been compromised Who's CIA file contains this information.
01:40:18.000It would be very dangerous for anyone to even think of voting for this man.
01:40:23.000He doesn't deserve anyone's respect or confidence and he certainly doesn't deserve any American's vote for what he's done to this country and to the servicemen.
01:40:32.000Well I've talked to famous, well exactly, I've talked to famous individuals who were in camps that McCain was supposedly in.
01:40:39.000And he was never even there at many of the camps, or he would disappear for a year.
01:40:44.000Well, according to his CIA file, Colonel Atkins, Lieutenant Colonel William Atkins, who worked with Oliver North, told me that he and Oliver North procured CIA files on the Senators who were going to vote for the Boland Amendment, which would prevent them from supplying aid to the Contras.
01:42:18.000And he worked as a police officer for five years.
01:42:21.000But then he discovered that prisoners were left behind after the war.
01:42:28.000When Bobby Garwood came home in 1978, William collaborated on a book with the famous writer Robin Moore who wrote The Green Berets.
01:42:36.000And Liam was gathering information in Washington, D.C.
01:42:39.000about Garwood and stumbled onto information that hundreds of Americans were known to be alive in Southeast Asia.
01:42:46.000When he went to Ann Griffith, who is the head of the Preserve War Families Organization in Washington, and gave her this information, she went to the Department of Defense and confronted them.
01:42:57.000And they made her sign a secrecy agreement.
01:43:00.000But essentially what was done was Ann Griffith was compromised.
01:43:04.000And since then, the government has used Ms.
01:43:07.000Griffith to manipulate the Prisoner of War families into betraying their own men.
01:43:12.000I was on the Board of Directors and I watched this happen.
01:43:15.000I was briefed by Department of Defense officials in 1991 and 1992 when Ross Perot was running for President and when John Kerry had our Senate Select Committee going.
01:43:26.000There was even a resignation in the Prisoner of Affairs Office.
01:43:49.000He told Peck's office to be able to respond to Peck's allegations by the end of the day.
01:43:54.000So that's why I ran for the Board of Directors, to get in there and try to do something.
01:44:00.000My husband's remains had been returned by then, but I believe that we had senators, Jesse Helms at the time, had an investigative staff, and he said, we're going to have a POW home by Christmas in 1991.
01:44:12.000And then all of a sudden, his office was shut down and he was in the hospital, allegedly with prostate cancer surgery.
01:44:22.000But when I was on the Board of Directors, I saw firsthand how Department of Defense officials tried to discredit any refugees who had information about live prisoners, how they tried to discredit photographs of live prisoners that were coming out of Southeast Asia.
01:44:37.000And Jeff Donahue and I, he's an Air Force brat like I am, his brother Morgan Donahue was left behind in Laos.
01:44:44.000Morgan Donahue is an Air Force Academy graduate.
01:44:47.000And many reports indicated that Morgan was alive and in fact Morgan was going to be given back to us in 1987 when Perot went over to Vietnam.
01:44:58.000But when Perot went over the State Department destroyed the Destroyed the whole deal that Perot put together.
01:45:07.000And I talked with Ross Perot at that point.
01:45:11.000Perot then later said that he was, uh, during the presidential run, was threatened to drop out or something would happen to his family.
01:45:17.000Yeah, the Texas family, POW families told me that Perot was threatened and that's why he backed off.
01:45:23.000I still have much admiration for Perot and he was the only presidential candidate that I voted for with a good feeling.
01:45:31.000I think Perot could have saved this country, but unfortunately, I discovered that there are forces in Washington that are sinister and they are preventing these men from coming home.
01:45:43.000So you think from the evidence there are still Vietnam veterans 30 years later that are in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in Southeast Asia?
01:49:12.000They think that they're God, we're here to serve them and buy all their lies and let their little cokehead sons stumble around and jabber at us.
01:49:21.000And I'm just not putting up with it anymore.
01:49:23.000Well, actually, a few days after that, I met with Senator Bob Perry and I asked him, I said, if we vote for Clinton, will we bring the POWs back?
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01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:11.000We have a very interesting surprise guest coming up in about eight minutes when we start the second segment, but We've been talking to Diane Van Rensselaer in the last hour about leaving POWs behind and all the cover-ups, all the subterfuges that are involved in that.
01:58:29.000Diane, I'm sorry I'm holding you over.
01:58:31.000I know you're busy, but I forgot to ask you about any websites or any places that we should go check out.
01:58:38.000Well, the website that I mentioned was to get a copy of Bill Dumas' film, www.missingpresenteddead.com.
01:58:49.000The National Alliance of Families has a website where people can go for information and updates on what's happening.
01:58:56.000Unfortunately, this administration is not really following up.
01:59:01.000The live sighting reports are pretty much ignored now thanks to President Clinton.
01:59:09.000The House Resolution 123 is the most important thing that people can do at this point to prep for an accounting.
01:59:18.000But also we didn't get into the subject about the Vietnamese community here in the Bay Area and what they know about McCain.
01:59:29.000I have a friend who is very highly placed in the Vietnamese community and McCain had a very special nurse when he was recovering from his injuries and the rumor in the community has been for many years that he has a son by Nguyen Thanh Cam's sister who is his nurse.
01:59:46.000And the son allegedly went to school at the University of Colorado.
01:59:50.000The mainstream press could track down this rumor in a couple of days and let us know if it's true.
01:59:54.000I don't know if it's true or not, but when the Bush administration, or the Bush campaign people, made allegations about McCain having an adopted black son or daughter, and out making allegations that the child was actually his, I think that they were poking McCain, letting him know that they know about his His illegitimate Vietnamese child, his son.
02:00:18.000And this is something I wish the mainstream press would go after.
02:01:06.000And if he continues in politics, or if he is indeed the President of the United States, He's so compromised he can be blackmailed into doing anything.
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02:04:56.000In today's world full of tyranny and injustice, sometimes it seems the only thing we still have is our freedom of speech.
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02:06:17.000We're going to be talking to Joanne Page, I believe the director of the Fortune Society.
02:06:24.000I'll tell you about that here in just a few minutes.
02:06:27.000But here's the headline, and this is out of Reuters today.
02:06:32.000Serial Killer Art Raises Free Speech Debate.
02:06:36.000An online auction of artwork by a serial killer.
02:06:39.000Triggered outrage in Massachusetts on Tuesday, where lawmakers proposed to block criminals from profiting from what they called murder, murder, murder-abilia, I guess, or memorabilia, murder-abilia, setting off a debate on free speech rights of prisoners.
02:06:57.000A color pencil sketch of Jesus Christ kneeling in a desert by Alfred Gaynor, a serial killer serving four life sentences for sodomizing and choking to death, four women went on sale Tuesday on a website operated by a prisoner advocacy group.
02:07:16.000It was one of nearly 300 artworks offered for auction through December 18th on the Fortune Society's website.
02:07:22.000If sold, nearly all proceeds will, from the work entitled, A Righteous Man's Reward, will go to Gaynor, the group said.
02:07:31.000And it says, a protest from the families of Gaynor's victims, can you imagine, about the possibility of a convicted murderer profiting from his criminal celebrity prompted State Rep.
02:07:42.000Peter Collagen, a Democrat, I think I'm pronouncing that right, to submit a new variation of the Son of Sam law in the state legislature.
02:07:51.000But the legislative proposal triggered its own debate over the prisoner's constitutional right of free speech, and it says Marjorie Hens, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, said freedom of expression extends to prisoners even if it causes emotional distress or offense to the victim's family.
02:08:13.000And it goes on, the artwork of America's most notorious killers, ranging from pencil drawings by Charles Manson to a painting by executed serial killer John Wayne Gacy, the clown, fetch hefty sums from collectors of murder-bilia.
02:08:29.000And we've taught in society that crime doesn't pay, but here we are allowing crime to pay, and it's sending the wrong message to people, said the former prosecutor.
02:08:38.000Now, we're going to let you hear the other side of this, but before we go, our guest is patiently holding.
02:08:45.000You got Nazis out there saying, kill all the black people, and so they say, okay, let's ban free speech because the Nazis have it.
02:08:53.000Well, no, you can't ban their free speech, because then you'll lose your free speech to criticize and protest the Nazis.
02:09:00.000It's the same thing with this black professor saying, kill every white person, because we're devil seed.
02:09:06.000If he tries to act on that, or he gets specific about who to kill, then he can get in trouble.
02:09:09.000But if he's just saying, we should wipe them off the face of the earth, well then you should go arrest People like Paul Harvey who says black slavery was good and we should nuke all the Arabs and killing the Indians was good.
02:09:27.000The problem is there's moves and the very crowds that will say, hey, let's let these convicted killers make money off this.
02:09:33.000They're the very people that are going, we need a hate crime law because you hurt somebody's feelings.
02:09:38.000So, you know, when I hear about free speech, I say, I think, yeah, people do need free speech, but here's the problem.
02:09:47.000If somebody writes a poem, or somebody from prison writes a book, and he can get a publisher for the book, and it isn't about the crime they committed, then I think that's free speech.
02:09:58.000I mean, if I go to prison for some trumped-up charge, because I'm a political prisoner, I should be able to write a book, have it published outside, and have that proceeds go to my family.
02:10:07.000But if I start running around making money directly off the crime, which then they'll argue, well, you're making money off the crime because you are famous because you're in there.
02:10:18.000And because of the crime you committed, then they can say, even if it isn't about the crime, you can't make money.
02:10:24.000But, I mean, there's gotta be a point here, folks, because I don't think prisoners should be stopped from being able to write, being able to lecture, and being able to get information out, because about half the people in prison really are innocent and shouldn't be there.
02:11:32.000I agree with you about the free speech issue.
02:11:34.000I think that what we've got is, in our country right now, we lock up a higher percentage of our population and a greater number of people than anywhere else in the world.
02:11:43.000And you've got people who are in there for doing terrible crime and people who did nothing.
02:11:47.000Yeah, we're 4% of the population, we've got 25% of the world prison population.
02:11:51.000Yeah, and that's not something to be proud of in a country that talks about liberty.
02:11:54.000Yeah, but we know that the scumbags like the serial killer torturing women, that guy needs to be dead.
02:12:03.000He has gotten four consecutive life sentences.
02:12:06.000He's been punished, he's not ever getting out.
02:12:08.000And I think that you have a couple of different things happening.
02:12:11.000You've got the crime, you've got the punishment.
02:12:13.000Those are happening, I would not argue with the punishment.
02:12:17.000You've got a situation where terrible damage was done eight years ago, and this man will be in prison for the rest of his life.
02:12:23.000But that doesn't mean that he can't write, that he can't draw a picture and get it out there, that he doesn't have rights under the Constitution that are different than his rights to walk out.
02:12:47.000People write me letters saying I should make my videos and give them out for free.
02:12:51.000Well, I couldn't even make the videos if I didn't sell them, folks.
02:12:53.000I mean, that's just how a free market works.
02:12:56.000We have to find a balance here, and really, I think you're going to end up losing your right to even sell anybody's pictures by going out, and there should be some self-enforcement.
02:13:05.000There's the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, and I don't think you guys should, I think you should selectively, you can decide.
02:13:28.000We would take a picture that we consider destructive, or violent, or connected to a person's crime.
02:13:35.000But what we do, and we've been doing this for years, is any prisoner who gets released, who walks in our doors, gets help, gets services, because if people get help and don't do new crimes, everybody benefits.
02:13:46.000We use the same philosophy with our art show.
02:13:53.000What we do essentially is we say, if you want to share the art that you've done and try to get some money for it, and the money is very limited, we start them at $15.
02:14:03.000We've capped this category of pictures at $250.
02:14:59.000Listen, I'm telling you, you... I think some of what you do is admirable, but I'm telling you, by doing this, you're going to end up losing and letting control freaks get in there and use this as a poster child, pun intended, to restrict free speech.
02:15:16.000I'm afraid you're right, and I'm not happy about it, but I think that if the alternative is not to let any prisoners get their art out, that's a lousy alternative.
02:15:28.000They don't control you, these prisoners don't control you.
02:15:30.000You don't have to take it from murdering clowns and, you know, just literal demons.
02:15:35.000You don't have to have communiques with actual pit-of-hell creatures.
02:15:39.000See, we don't ask a person what they're convicted of, and we don't go into the nature of the conviction or whether the convictions are Correct.
02:15:46.000What we simply do once a year is we let prisoners who are interested in art and who do pictures get a chance to exhibit them and get them out there.
02:15:57.000And that's all we do in terms of the art.
02:15:59.000What we do in our counseling, what we do in our work directly with clients is we work on accountability, we work on teaching people how to hold a job.
02:16:07.000Well that's good, but the press is trying to frame this that you guys make more than just a pittance on it.
02:16:13.000Well here's what's funny about it, right?
02:16:15.000First of all, if the press had not gotten involved in this, this picture probably would have gone for $30, $40, $50.
02:16:22.000Because of what the press has done, there's been all this talk about loss of money, and there may be people who approach him to try to sell pictures at much higher prices than the $2.50 we're capping it at.
02:16:35.000What we do is we do this as a service.
02:16:37.000Because part of what our job is, is to say that there are people behind bars.
02:16:42.000There are people who may have done bad things, there are people who may have done nothing.
02:16:45.000And so your argument is that instead of getting involved in picking and choosing, you guys are just totally equal opportunity to everybody.
02:16:54.000Well, we do it on the merit of the picture.
02:16:56.000If we think it's something destructive, we don't use it.
02:16:58.000If we think it's something that shows some talent and creativity, we do.
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02:22:06.000But, you know, people can argue all day that, oh, we've got to selectively Or not be selective and just sell any of this art.
02:22:20.000And we're a prison rehabilitation program.
02:22:23.000I can understand that, but imagine how this sounds, how this is billed.
02:22:28.000They're making money off of killer's art.
02:22:33.000And now these politicians are going to use this to restrict free speech.
02:22:36.000And I just think, as a cautionary note and tale, you have to then not have any truck With these individuals because the establishment is going to use them as poster boys regardless of the true nature of what you're doing.
02:23:37.000I just think violent Offenders, when it reaches this certain bar level, should need to be in a big, dark, dirty hole for the rest of their lives and not making money.
02:23:48.000But listen, I don't think they should be working in the prisons and making money for these private corporations.
02:23:53.000That's an incentive to put innocent people in prison.
02:23:56.000It just makes me... All I know is it makes me sick.
02:23:59.000I hear you, and I'm kind of sickened by the media that's happened, because nobody's looking at the work of any of these other artists.
02:24:06.000Nobody's looking at the issues of rehabilitation and in all honesty what they've done by broadcasting it in this way is they've opened old wounds for the family members of the people who got killed.
02:24:18.000We do an art show and we get art and we put it out and normally we don't know anything about the background of people who did it.
02:24:25.000All we know is in this example this is a picture of Jesus in the desert done on crayon and we put a maximum price that we think doesn't exploit a person's history and When somebody's locked up and punished, being locked up for the rest of your life is the punishment for the crime.
02:24:44.000If this man wrote an editorial and got paid for it, I'd have no issue with it.
02:24:50.000If this man drew a crayon picture and got paid for it, I'd have no issue for it.
02:24:54.000The only reason the crime is coming in is because the media is hyping it so much in Boston.
02:25:33.000You don't have to like the person, you don't have to like what the person did, but as long as it's not destructive speech like, you know, the fire in a crowded theater, I think it should be out there.
02:25:45.000You want people who are incarcerated to be getting a chance to develop Their own humanity, so that when they come out, because 97% of them... I know, but what I'm saying is... You want people rehabilitating, because they're going to come home most of the time.
02:25:58.000Exactly, but what I'm saying is that this is going to be used to clamp down on communications by prisoners, period, in this giant military-industrial-prison-slave-grid-complex that is the biggest sector of the economy now, that is the new America.
02:26:28.000and i want to attack you when you came on i i guess i am emotional at a certain level i mean i'm more angry at the establishment issues that the way this world works everything is done in symbols and logos and and and and and just simply communicated And so when you get into the details, you find out that what you're doing, I would have to say, isn't bad.
02:26:49.000But just the way it's going to be sold and promoted, just what I got from this Reuters article, is that you're like evil scumballs making money off death.
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02:32:08.000By the way, if they don't do that, they get literally, what is it, I think a meal a day is like $0.89 or something on average, or Pio's got it down to like $0.75.
02:32:17.000Horrible pieces of bread falling apart with a piece of bologna, a little bag of cheap chips, maybe one or two little carrots.
02:32:25.000I mean, some of these places, they get nothing.
02:32:27.000It's lies about the color TVs and the hot tubs and the cable.
02:32:33.000I mean, maybe at some of these Yes, that's the incredible part.
02:32:40.000where it's lower level security, but medium security, maximum security, these are hell holes where they do medical experiments on them, you name it.
02:35:05.000But he was honest, because MIT Magazine and several other major government publications admit that the Department of Defense designed the grid, had it put in by the states with federal money, and they literally call it a control grid.
02:35:38.000Like I said, San Antonio, and I've been all over the country, folks, San Antonio is the first place I ever saw with them.
02:35:43.000I know Indiana was the second to get them once we got documents on it.
02:35:47.000And then now they've gone in coast to coast, even four-way stops in the middle of nowhere, I've seen them.
02:35:54.000Well, let me tell you, they have little antenna arrays, they have little infrared scanners, they have license plate scanners, they have a special scanner that even if there isn't a luminance paint built into the tags like we have in Texas, the plates, the computer actually reads numbers.
02:36:13.000So it's a camera, but they call it a scanner.
02:36:16.000And it can instantly read just hundreds of numbers You know hundreds of plates a second and those have already gone up nationwide from San Diego to Austin, Texas So I'd have to and in some cases sensors are so close to each other Like they'll have the same housing you'll have to get right up on the pole or you'll have to have binoculars and then try to focus up on it and and and
02:36:42.000You know, back off a ways and then use the binoculars to give you an even closer view onto the pole to actually see what the device is.
02:36:50.000But, oh yeah, it isn't just their Department of Defense sensors, it's all Department of Defense, Bubba.
02:37:09.000Plant some daisies on top of the plot.
02:37:14.000Swing low sweet chariot coming to carry us home.
02:37:17.000I mean they're with pleasure drawing the knife across the throat.
02:37:21.000The arteries start to spew and splatter.
02:37:23.000They're going to keep going to the next one and pretty soon there won't be no coming home.
02:37:30.000And all those cops and all those government people would have broken Humpty Dumpty and there would be no putting it back together again without totally revamping the country.
02:37:38.000And their kids and their future and everything's gone.
02:38:57.000Couldn't that be sort of a bar drawn where murderers and rapists and so on, instead of being able to sell their art, that it could be only rented for an exhibition for a really measly amount.
02:39:16.000So it's never on the black market, it's never out there for someone to just abuse it, you know?
02:40:09.000Back in the, you know, some of those fads with the kids toys, they were paying $10,000 on eBay for these things because, I don't know, they don't have control over their kids' bank accounts.
02:40:27.000Anyway, the other comment I wanted to make is for anybody who doubts some of the things that are going on with the prison system that's being set up around us, even in the long shot that we have a wonderful government and this is just somebody hedging their bets, this is a government that has no faith in its citizens.
02:41:44.000They just walk around with their eyes bugged out, feeling like, as one emailer said, it's their own private nature preserve and they'd get paid to be enjoying it.
02:41:55.000And you're like, Alex, what does that have to do with anything, park rangers being rude?
02:41:58.000It's an indicator, it's an arrogance, it's an attitude.
02:42:01.000I mean, look, we had a bunch of yuppie kids in Westlake, in a public park, advertising it, not making a big deal out of it, but, you know, not acting like it was some secret thing, just out there boxing with big old 16-ounce gigantic gloves.
02:42:19.000And I saw a video clip of it on the news, but it was a joke.
02:42:22.000Little scrawny guys that, you know, out there just going through a manhood ritual, I guess, boxing with each other.
02:42:57.000If two young men were getting into a fight at school, the coach would literally grab them by the scrub of the neck, drag them outside, put gloves on and say, alright, you're going to do 12 rounds.
02:43:08.000And by the time they were puking from being so tired and totally exhausted and bruised, they became friends and never fought again.
02:43:30.000Special tactical teams sneaking around in the woods, and they run up on these yuppie kids in their polo shirts, driving their Mercedes-Benz, and they're out there under a tree, boxing with these huge, full-size, not training gloves, boxing gloves on.
02:43:46.000uh... and uh... they arrest them and and and it's a big statewide investigation and now there's talk of banning dojos and sparring and just you just can't do that and again they banned tag they arrest you they catch you doing it or at least take you to the principal's office I have seen cases of arrests being made for dodgeball they ban it middle school kids sneak a ball in their bag they all go behind the cafeteria whereas we were behind the cafeteria smoking cigarettes in high school
02:44:16.000Uh, I guess now they go behind the cafeteria and play dodgeball.
02:44:19.000That's the big, evil, dirty, criminal thing to do.
02:44:22.000Did you bring the little rubber softball?
02:45:19.000We just came upon a new document today that the Department of Defense is just now putting out, that we're writing an article on, and I'll tell you the details of it tomorrow.
02:45:27.000You're not going to... Well, I guess you will believe it.
02:45:30.000Here's one that's up on InfoWars.com right now we put together.
02:45:34.000NBC's Law and Order implies that Minutemen are murderers.
02:45:36.000A listener sent us to the link, and they have the description on the website about the evil Minutemen and the murder investigation, how the Minutemen are killing innocent people.
02:45:47.000And I wrote this comment this morning.
02:45:50.000Because the Minutemen are doing a great job and now receiving support from governors and congressmen, the controlled media is turning up the heat with TV shows based on fraudulent scenarios where Minutemen are out murdering innocent people.
02:46:29.000Murder of smuggling trucker could be linked to Border Patrol Group.
02:46:33.000When the owner of a big rig trucking company is shot to death, Detectives Fontaine and Green learn that the victim was hauling illegal aliens and suspect a member, Daniel Roebuck, Citizens Border Patrol Group, But their only witness is an undocumented Hispanic woman who risks deportation if she testifies.
02:46:53.000Meanwhile, Prosecutor McCoy is incensed when the witness is physically intimidated as he tries to turn one organization member against the other.
02:47:01.000Oh, see, the Minutemen are being mean to the poor Hispanic lady.
02:47:05.000You see, when they can't get any real events, they just manufacture them.
02:47:09.000So now when Minutemen are out there on the border, there'll be some weak-minded cops pull up and in their head, these are killers.
02:47:17.000All the psychological studies show that the brain interprets all this as real.
02:47:24.000And they've got a hundred TV shows I've seen just when I used to watch TV where guns are evil, gun owners are all murderers, people that talk about one world government are psychotic killers that abuse their children.
02:47:37.000They show on TV shows where people get arrested for talking about the New World Order?
02:47:54.000I know a lot of you aren't fools, and you just, you know what's going on, but you just keep your head down.
02:47:58.000Well, America can't survive if we just keep our head down.
02:48:04.000You know, there is a time to hold them and to fold them and to walk away and to run, but there's also a time to get up and get in people's faces and take action and be aggressive.
02:48:18.000I know a lot of you signed up to defend this country.
02:48:19.000Let me tell you something, you've been incrementally warped and turned to the dark side, and you better wake up to what you're part of right now.
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02:51:55.000Look, and in my opinion, police, government minions, people listening right now on the radio, your bosses put cancer viruses in the vaccines you took.
02:52:45.000But I know this, things aren't getting better by doing nothing and by going along with this.
02:52:52.000I want to try to go to Dylan and A few others that are patiently holding before we end this broadcast today.
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02:54:28.000Dylan in Texas, you're on the air, welcome.
02:54:31.000Good day Alex, and good day everybody.
02:54:34.000I want to comment on your third interview today.