The USA Patriot Act reauthorization may include DNA databases, a DNA database, and a suspension of habeas corpus. Peak oil and the politics of oil are on the other side of the war on terror. Big Brother and Mainstream Media cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:42.000We're going to be here live for the next three hours.
00:00:44.000We have a special in-studio guest coming up here in about eight minutes when we start the second segment.
00:00:50.000And then in about 30 minutes we're going to have Gregor Kreutzhuber on.
00:00:54.000He's the big EU spokesman who is, in this article I have in front of me, from the London Daily Telegraph, EU setting up system of spy satellites.
00:01:06.000This will augment the echelon system that the United States has set up quite nicely in tying to the EU's InfoPol 9 system.
00:01:14.000So he'll be joining us coming up at the halfway point if we get all our time zones and things straight.
00:01:19.000But I'm told the main EU spokesmen were quite honored.
00:01:24.000I'm sure the NSA alarm bells are going off right now.
00:01:27.000There'll be analysts listening to this before the hour's even over.
00:01:30.000So again, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:01:35.000The USA Patriot Act reauthorization may include DNA database and a suspension of habeas corpus.
00:01:41.000And I thought because we have a British TV crew here in studio with us today, we're going to be talking about peak oil.
00:01:48.000And just the politics of oil, that I would read a British quote about suspension of habeas corpus, the power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and the foundation of all totalitarian governments, whether Nazi or Communist.
00:02:13.000Couldn't agree more with that statement.
00:02:15.000So we'll get into another expansion of the Patriot Act, as if the last couple of expansions weren't enough for you.
00:02:23.000They're going to try to make the most police state facets, the worst police state facets of all of this, permanent and even expanded.
00:02:34.000And I have an article here from the Organic Consumers Association.
00:02:38.000They quote directly from the new legislation that is on the verge of passing right now.
00:03:01.000Any small little minority they could target and radiated their brain cases, in many cases, until death.
00:03:08.000And that's been coming out in the news.
00:03:12.000We're talking to the Associated Press lately.
00:03:16.000But this is currently happening and we know that especially New York City itself takes the foster children and tests pesticides on them and experimental AIDS drugs on children that don't even have HIV.
00:03:31.000And this is a holocaust going on in front of everyone, but because it isn't on the nightly news with Brian Williams, it's out of sight, out of mind.
00:03:40.000Well, we'll be talking about that here today.
00:03:44.000We are going to stand up for these little people.
00:03:47.000And Bush, of course, is telling China right now to open the door to freedom, and that's the pot calling the kettle black in every way.
00:03:56.000But coming up after this quick break, we're going to get into Peak Oil and the Politics of Oil and how energy affects everything we do every day in our lives.
00:04:09.000Obviously, a few months ago, what we already knew was confirmed.
00:04:14.000Hundreds of pages of oil company documents were released and the oil companies have confirmed that these are legitimate, real documents.
00:04:23.000These are Communications between the large oil companies forming their own cartel to systematically buy up all of the independent refineries and restrict capacity at their own refineries to create an artificial bottleneck So they could jack up the price of oil.
00:04:44.000That's just one facet of what we'll be discussing while I went to war with Iraq.
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00:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:16.000In about 25 minutes, we're going to have Gregor Kreutzhuber, the EU spokesman on, talking about their ultra-massive Big Brother surveillance satellite fleet they're going to be launching.
00:08:28.000With all of their, I guess, EU taxpayer money building their own empire, the rise of Europe and the destruction of, I guess, the population's freedom there, as well as our freedom, will all be surveilled by this.
00:08:41.000It'll be a new NSA that rivals or even dwarfs that built by the United States, so that's coming up.
00:08:48.000And then we're going to be talking to the folks from the Organic Consumers Association, environmental scientist Craig Monona, who we've actually interviewed before.
00:08:58.000About a bill about to pass Congress to actually take foster children and mentally retarded children and test chemicals, biologicals, pesticides.
00:09:44.000And that's, of course, what Paul Craig Roberts A high-level Reagan administration official said here on the show last week, that's what Ron Paul has been saying, Congressman, that they're openly trying to set up martial law in a Nazi-Germany type slash Soviet system.
00:10:03.000But joining us, riding shotgun, right through our EU guest that's coming on, is Simon Reeve.
00:10:11.000And he is, of course, a reporter and a producer joining us from National British Television.
00:10:18.000A lot of their productions also air here in the United States, and they're here to talk about peak oil and the politics of oil, and I couldn't think of a better day to do it.
00:10:29.000Right now, in the Washington Post today, document says oil chiefs met with Cheney task force.
00:10:37.000We played clips of that last week where they just were lying.
00:10:54.000Of course this set the policy for the next decade.
00:11:00.000This is the blueprint for the next decade, literally the entire energy policy of the United States, the biggest consumer of oil and all of the derivative products.
00:11:12.000And so they've been caught yet again lying, and we have documents where they've been colluding since at least the mid-1990s to artificially shut down refineries, buy them up, to create a bottleneck.
00:11:24.000Because the oil companies in their own documents say, we've got too much oil.
00:11:29.000And the price is going to plummet if we don't artificially restrict the supply.
00:11:48.000That's why we're jacking up the price on you.
00:11:50.000When the truth is, Saudi Arabia, major new studies that have been independently verified by petroleum geologists, has about double the supplies they thought they had, so they could supply the entire world at its current usage, at its current rate, for over a hundred years.
00:12:08.000And that's been independently verified and confirmed.
00:12:10.000It's been in the Financial Times of London, just a score of publications.
00:12:14.000All these independent petroleum geologists have looked at this.
00:12:17.000And then, of course, we have 98% of Alaska is off limits to drilling.
00:12:23.000Sweet crude, light crude, you literally blast out of the ground at Saudi Arabia-type levels.
00:12:54.000Just for the listeners out there, and for folks that don't know who you are, tell us a little bit about yourself, Simon.
00:12:58.000Oh, well, I'm here to make a TV documentary about why Britain and America went to war in Iraq.
00:13:06.000We want to know what people's theories are.
00:13:08.000We want to know why we're now occupying Iraq with British and American troops, mainly American troops, of course, and why American soldiers are losing their lives there.
00:13:15.000Was it about weapons of mass destruction, as we were told, or was it about something else?
00:13:40.000Anytime these strategic elites, or the Anglo-American establishment, the US and Britain, and some of their financial backers in Europe, engage in a major geopolitical shift, It's done because it aids and helps more of their different strategic interests than it hurts.
00:14:01.000And so we have PNAC, Project for the New American Century documents, written back in 2000.
00:14:07.000One of them, Rebuilding America's Defenses, published September 20, 2000.
00:14:11.000And the main author of that was Dick Cheney and of course the President's brother, Jeb Bush, 25-member elite board of PNAC.
00:14:17.000And they say that we want Iraq For the oil, but to control the oil, and to use Iraq as a military launch base to then invade Iran and Syria.
00:14:29.000And they went on to say in other similar documents, put out by the same group, that yes, Saddam is too strong, he can be too strong of a leader.
00:14:37.000We want to fracture and balkanize and break up Iraq.
00:14:41.000We want to really have endless civil war there.
00:14:44.000We have Pentagon documents going back decades saying this, that the ideal thing would be broken up regional strife and different ethnic groups at each other.
00:14:53.000I mean, that's the old tool of empire.
00:14:55.000Julius Caesar, 2,000 years ago in the battle for Gaul, how he dealt with the French and the Visigoths, the Germans, today, how they played tribes off against each other, how they manipulated.
00:15:04.000So divide and conquer is one of the main reasons, but certainly oil.
00:15:11.000When they invaded Iraq, there was a conservatively $4 trillion in discovered, recoverable, quality oil fields.
00:15:20.000Now, because of the doubling since then in oil prices, even though they've dropped a bit now, it's still over the doubling, we're looking at $8 trillion in oil.
00:15:29.000Afghanistan has $3 trillion in oil now, in adjusted numbers, over $6 trillion in oil.
00:15:35.000So, we're talking about, over, And now $12 trillion dollars total just in that region because of the increase in prices with Afghanistan and Iraq put together.
00:16:06.000That's an imperial command base for their viceroys that they put in.
00:16:11.000But George Bush, in the PENAC documents, and to his biographer, now in a published book, this is his biographer, this isn't like it's somebody who's attacking Bush.
00:16:20.000Bush said in 1999, before he was gearing up to run, he said, I'm going to be a war president.
00:16:25.000And because when you go to war, and he said, I'm going to go to war with Saddam, you can't be questioned.
00:16:31.000None of your agenda can be questioned, at least for a time.
00:16:34.000He didn't say for a time, he just said, oh, they can't question me when I'm a war leader.
00:16:37.000Yeah, Napoleon, Hitler, I mean, these type of individuals, when you are in a war, the people tend to rally around the flag, shut up, don't ask questions, do what you're told, we're in a war, you're either with us or you're against us.
00:16:48.000So, it was about... Those were his words, weren't they?
00:17:18.000We can't release those Energy Department documents about the oil executives in there with the Vice President because you're either with us or against us.
00:17:26.000And they've just systematically lied at every point.
00:17:28.000So, just to be specific for people, it was a multifaceted program.
00:17:35.000Number one, trillions and trillions in oil.
00:17:38.000Hundreds of billions in weapons sales for Carlisle Group and Dick Cheney's wife on the board of Lockheed Martin and all these big aerospace giants.
00:17:48.000It's about the hundreds of billions in just non-military contracts, construction contracts, rebuilding contracts.
00:17:54.000And it's about setting up permanent military presence and moving the main force out of Israel, out of Saudi Arabia, into Iraq And it's also then about silencing political dissent here domestically and setting up a type of military state here as well, which a lot of congressmen and prominent, even conservative leaders are now saying.
00:18:17.000So in terms of the oil, what I'm still curious about is whether you think the reason that the White House was so keen to get hold of the oil was because they wanted to provide extra money for their big friends in the big companies or whether they wanted to help the American people because the American people need oil to run their big SUVs and live their oil-friendly lifestyles.
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00:24:42.000We're being serious here with Simon Reeve with National British Television.
00:24:47.000And during the break, Simon really did boil it down in my 10-minute diatribe.
00:24:53.000They're putting a stranglehold on the oil.
00:24:57.000Just like the oil companies in their memos that are now public say, we want to shut down refineries, buy them up, restrict our own, to create an artificial scarcity to put a It's the same thing with Iraq.
00:25:10.000By the oil not flowing, by going into all of the stamps, Afghanistan and Uzbekistan, and by funding these governments, by not letting the oil companies come in, or by limiting it, then China and others don't get it, and you put a stranglehold on energy, which is everything.
00:25:29.000So, that really is the main focus of what the Iraq War was about, is oil, the control of oil, and the control of who gets access to oil.
00:25:39.000I mean, really, it would be good for the American people if our government stopped trying to monopolize the oil.
00:25:48.000We would truly have a free market, Simon.
00:25:50.000Yeah, it's interesting what you're saying there about China.
00:25:52.000I mean, I wonder how that really does figure in people in the Pentagon's thinking and in the White House, because China is obviously emerging as the new great power to rival America.
00:26:02.000China is desperately looking for oil supplies all around the world.
00:26:05.000I've been in some strange countries in the last year, and you see Chinese executives making deals with the governments there, desperately trying to get drilling rights so they can get their hands on what they need to fund their economy.
00:26:20.000I'm quite interested in that, the connection between the desire to keep a stranglehold and all, but also the desire to keep it for America.
00:26:34.000It's not just a desire to secure, it's a desire to control it, restrict the flow to everybody, but restrict it, the flow is going towards America still.
00:26:43.000Well, we hear that the flow is going to America and the American people are getting it, but again, we've seen a doubling in price.
00:26:49.000It's about scamming and ripping everybody off.
00:26:53.000I mean, the reason you pay more in Europe for oil is just predominantly because of tax.
00:26:58.000But I separate our government from the people.
00:27:02.000Again, we have these strategic elites who openly are using our government and our population as an engine Basically, he's military enforcers for their international corporate aims.
00:27:16.000So America always seems to get blamed in the final equation as if, oh, it's those wild-eyed, right-wing, imperialistic Americans.
00:27:23.000They're out running around, thumbing at the mouth.
00:27:26.000And no, it's just we're the superpower.
00:27:31.000We have an open society and these corporate interests have come in and bought up our politicians and they're using America for their corporate aims.
00:27:37.000I mean, that's what this global government is about.
00:27:39.000You've got the world and you've got the US as kind of the bad cop enforcer who goes around making the world carry out the aims of these private corporate interests.
00:28:17.000troops will pull out, and they're already saying it's going to be a NATO force that's going to be in there, and suddenly they'll take off some of the restrictions that have been, uh, you know, most egregious to the population, and the population will buy the fraud, and then you'll see the escalation, uh, dissipate.
00:28:48.000Well, Bush has about a 31% approval rate right now.
00:28:52.000So, most Americans don't buy into that whole mentality, but There is a group of people, even though they don't own any oil stocks and they're not, they don't work for Exxon Mobil or BP, they still, yes, they call them to talk radio shows and they go, our oil!
00:29:09.000Them darn Arabs better give us our oil!
00:29:26.000Then they just started calling the talkshows going, yeah, it's a lie, so what, we need the oil, it's ours!
00:29:31.000Literally, you can tune in and listen to it right now.
00:29:33.000But the cost of that is American soldiers' lives.
00:29:36.000Well also, the buck-toothed white trash that are saying that don't realize that they're being exploited by these corporate criminals just as much as the Arab people are.
00:29:47.000So it's amazing, we'll be right back, stay with us.
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00:33:01.000Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:33:24.000We're now 33 minutes, 25 seconds into this first hour.
00:33:28.000We're going to continue our discussion about the politics of oil with our in-studio guest, Simon Reeve, joining us from National British Television, coming up here in about 10 minutes.
00:33:39.000I tell you, my producer just gets better and better guests to have the European Union Commission spokesman, their main spokesman for industry policy, And he's joining us to discuss this new grid, this fleet of surveillance satellites.
00:33:59.000EU setting up system of spy satellites is the London Daily Telegraph headline.
00:34:05.000Now let's be honest here, let's be truthful.
00:34:08.000Obviously England is part of the Echelon system.
00:34:11.000It's just ultra-massive and tracks everything we say over any type of communication system, every email, every fax.
00:34:19.000And so, at least on the surface, the US and England are hopping up and down, angry about this system that will also rival their GPS.
00:34:27.000The European Union is building its own network of spy satellites, allowing Brussels to insure nations and private individuals are obeying its policies.
00:34:35.000The multi-billion dollar system known as Global Monitoring for Environment and Security should be set up and running in about four years by 2010, a commission spokesman said on Monday.
00:34:46.000And this is serious because the 15 EU member states plus Norway and Switzerland have now gotten together and are going to pay for this through the European Space Agency and launch 30 satellite global navigation systems designed to improve on Pentagon-controlled global positioning systems and also to check, I guess, the environment, to watch what the farmers are doing.
00:35:39.000Tell us, sir, about this new initiative and why it's upset the United States and England.
00:35:45.000Well, first of all, I don't think it should upset the United States or England, because contrary to what this newspaper you just quoted from was saying, we're not really talking about spy satellites.
00:35:56.000Our main focus is to better prevent, predict, monitor and manage natural disasters.
00:36:02.000So this is about a satellite system where Europe is working together.
00:36:06.000You might know that in the European Union we have now 25 member states.
00:36:16.000So what we want to do is to use more the synergies.
00:36:19.000Working together in the European Union in order to, for example, in cases like the tsunami which happened, as you all know, in Thailand one year ago, we could be in a position to better predict these things happening or, if they happen, to give swift and quick responses in terms of emergency aid and stuff like that.
00:36:39.000So, the Americans should not be worried at all.
00:36:44.000And by the way, I can tell you that this global, European global monitoring system for the environment and security, as we call it, has been discussed between the European Union leaders and the United States leaders and President Bush some months ago.
00:36:58.000And what we said is that it does make perfect sense that Europe is building up its capacities so that we can work together with the Americans in order to sort of also prevent global environmental crises which unfortunately are happening more and more often as Hurricane Wilma has clearly shown.
00:37:15.000So these are fuzzy little sweet satellites.
00:37:19.000What we are talking about is that the European Union member states, countries like France, the European space agencies, they have already some satellites up there.
00:37:27.000The problem is that the data for the time being is not really reliable, yet the quality of satellite pictures is not very good.
00:37:34.000Plus, as I said before, the cooperation, the exchange of data, the flow of information between European Union countries doesn't work properly.
00:37:43.000And this is why we think It's much, much smarter to say we pool our resources, what countries in the European Union are doing, plus what we are doing on the European Union institutional level, work together and then get something out of it.
00:37:58.000And the important thing is that we think that this is something which is good for European citizens because we are really talking about useful things you can do.
00:38:07.000And if some disaster, I don't know, let's say a chemical plant If you have a huge accident or big fire, then you can monitor it by satellite and see immediately where, for example, toxic clouds are moving in which direction they're heading and do something about it.
00:38:26.000But Mr. Kreutzhuber, and of course you are the main EU Commission spokesman for industry, and so thank you for joining us.
00:38:36.000You know, understanding this new program with these 30 high-tech satellites, So the London Daily Telegraph, would you say that they're lying when their headline is EU setting up system of spy satellites?
00:38:47.000Well, I'm not saying they're lying, I think they're just putting a certain spin on the story, and as I said, this is not predominantly something the European Union would use for spying.
00:38:57.000Don't forget that this is being very complicated, because the European Union is not like the United States, so we don't have a central government, so we can't spy on the European Union.
00:39:07.000The European Commission isn't, well, I mean it is central to a certain degree, and of course with France and others, Pulling back from, you know, total EU centralization.
00:39:17.000I guess you could say it isn't totally central, but... It's central, you're right.
00:39:21.000I fully agree it's central in many economic issues, but definitely not when it comes down to national security.
00:39:26.000There, the European Union and Brussels headquarters doesn't have any competence.
00:39:31.000This is something member states have, for example, their own secret services like the CIA in America.
00:39:38.000We have none of that on the European Union level.
00:39:41.000Mr. Kreutz, Hubert, I have a question.
00:39:44.000What's the Bilderberg Group's position on this?
00:39:46.000Sorry, the Bilderberg Group's position?
00:39:59.000I didn't mean to bring them up if they didn't have anything to do with this particular area of the European Union.
00:40:09.000So this article says that it's going to surveil the population and we know that the U.S.
00:40:14.000and the echelon system with the Anglo-American alliance, but you think that's a good way to describe England and the U.S.
00:40:21.000and Canada, Australia, New Zealand, they're using it to spy on their farmers and other people and to track them.
00:40:27.000And I have seen little news blurbs about the E.U.
00:40:29.000wanting to use satellites, I guess you wouldn't call it spy, helping the farmers.
00:40:34.000I mean, are you going to use this for agricultural tracking?
00:40:37.000Yeah, I tell you, I tell you that One of the applications we're going to use these satellite pictures for, I think, makes sense.
00:40:43.000I mean, I wouldn't say we are spying on farmers, but what we are doing, as you know, the European Union is also paying taxpayers money to support farmers in the European Union.
00:40:53.000But in order to keep them on the check and see whether they're cheating or not, this tool is extremely helpful because they have to declare how much land they have, how many acres they have.
00:41:03.000And according to this they get subsidies, so if a farmer cheats and says he has double the acreage he really has, and is claiming therefore double the money he would be entitled to have, then we have a very strict rule to check on that, because as I said, we are talking about taxpayer's money, and taxpayer's money has to be controlled.
00:41:23.000Yes sir, that's why they just passed a law here.
00:41:25.000Every farm animal has to have a tracker microchip.
00:41:28.000Are you guys considering that over there?
00:41:32.000No, because we think it's much easier to just use the satellite photographs and see to what extent they are claiming the roundabouts of money, which is fairly simple if you have the technology.
00:41:43.000The second example I could maybe tell you about is Uh, the fishery sector, and you know that we have huge problems in the European Union, but also in the States, that fish stocks are basically dwindling and disappearing.
00:41:57.000So what we do is that we control our fishermen, the vessels they're fishing with, in order to check that they are not overfishing.
00:42:05.000And this can be done via the satellite system, which is again something extremely useful.
00:42:09.000Oh yeah, they're trying to implement that here, where they gotta have GPS in them and pay for it, and they're getting tracked meanwhile the Japanese trawlers can do whatever they want.
00:42:17.000The other ones doing most of the damage are those big giant trawlers and just little bitty boats we've got can't even basically catch 4 or 5 fish now.
00:42:25.000Exactly, but the way it works in Europe, we check everybody, big or small, it doesn't matter.
00:42:30.000They have to obey the rules, otherwise they're out.
00:42:34.000How many miles does that go off the coast, 12?
00:42:35.000Well, normally it's between 12 and 24 and then the international waters are starting.
00:43:15.000So these aren't going to be used for spies?
00:43:18.000These aren't going to be used for frequency interception then?
00:43:21.000Yeah, but this is a completely different ballgame.
00:43:25.000The applications we are talking about is of course sometimes also you can for example also track people, movements.
00:43:33.000We had a huge problem with a lot of refugees coming from Morocco to towards Spain.
00:43:39.000There you can see people coming which is Helping to prevent humanitarian crisis, for example.
00:43:45.000But again, this is where I'm saying this British newspaper has got it wrong, because we are not talking about a spying system, we are talking about a system of monitoring what's going on on our planet, especially in Europe, in order to respond better, for example, to climate change, to global warming, to environmental disasters.
00:44:03.000So basically it's just to keep us safe.
00:44:07.000Yes, keeping people safe and responding and better managing disasters.
00:44:14.000And for the rest, it remains to be seen.
00:44:16.000But again, the European Union has no competence to spy on people.
00:44:37.000Commission's main spokesman, Gregor Kreuzhuber.
00:44:41.000And Mr. Kreuzhuber, just in closing, I want you to be able to say anything you'd like to get out there and basically recap what you're saying, or any points you haven't hit on.
00:44:50.000But certainly, according to what I've read, several different articles on this, these are going to be used for not just GPS and not just photographing and scanning the populations visually, but also we'll be collecting different No, these satellites don't have anything to do with InfoPol 9 or Echelon.
00:45:20.000The only point I'm trying to make, and I know that this is maybe not necessarily obvious on the other side of the Atlantic, how the European Union works, because again, as I said, we are not the United States.
00:45:31.000So, many of these responsibilities in terms of intelligence, in terms of spying on people or not, is under national responsibility of France, of Germany, of Italy, and not here in Brussels.
00:45:45.000And this is why I'm saying that what we are talking about here... But they're all going to have access to those feeds, and they pool those feeds.
00:45:51.000But this is something they're already doing, don't forget.
00:45:53.000I mean, they have already satellites up there.
00:46:05.000I mean, as I'm saying, but this system is definitely, as I said, is definitely not a spying system in this sense.
00:46:11.000I understand, but it's just more eyes in the sky.
00:46:14.000Yes, but more eyes in the sky sometimes can be extremely useful for those people who, for example, are suffering under the disastrous consequences of Hurricane Wilma.
00:46:24.000Getting food to people quickly, responding to humanitarian crisis.
00:46:28.000I think these people who have been suffering under Wilma would be very happy to have some useful eyes on the sky at the end of the day.
00:47:10.000It's fully transparent, so people who are interested in this kind of stuff can go on The website of the European Union, which is on www.europa.eu.int for international.
00:47:33.000And our goddess is more powerful than your goddess.
00:47:36.000I'm being sarcastic, just having some fun, sir.
00:47:39.000We are having fun in Europe as well, you know that we like that kind of... You know my compatriot Arnold Schwarzenegger, who's running California, you know?
00:49:07.000I think we have a slightly different take on surveillance and close-circuit TV and things like that in Europe.
00:49:13.000We're much more used to it than you are over here.
00:49:16.000Britain, for example, is the most heavily monitored and surveilled society on the planet.
00:49:23.000We have surveillance cameras across the entire country.
00:49:26.000And they're useful sometimes, but of course people do complain about them, because nobody likes being filmed 32 times when they're on their way to work at 8 o'clock on a Monday morning.
00:49:35.000But now they're putting in face scanners, they've got cameras that shout orders at you, have you heard about those?
00:49:43.000I haven't had any cameras shouting orders at me.
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00:55:04.000We're here talking to our guest, Simon, and he's with National British Television, and he's here in the U.S.
00:55:10.000I guess he's done about ten interviews, he was saying, investigating what's really behind the war, what's really behind the politics of oil.
00:55:19.000And Simon, you had some other questions?
00:55:22.000I'm sure you've also got some of your own statements.
00:55:24.000I'm sure you've formed your own view during your deep investigation.
00:55:39.000What I was going to ask is, I mean, from our side of the Atlantic, the impression we get, I think, of the situation in America is still that you've got so many young soldiers on the ground in Iraq, but it's still seen as being somewhat unpatriotic.
00:55:54.000Well, there's nothing more patriotic than criticizing your government and engaging in free speech, whatever those views are.
00:56:00.000say hang on i want to raise a point now and i want to ask what the hell is going on why did we go into iraq in the first place well there's nothing more patriotic than criticizing your government and engaging in free speech whatever those views are what is totally unpatriotic what is tyranny something that we should run from and in teddy roosevelt many other presidents have talked about this is a government that starts saying you agree with us or you're bad And is that what the government is doing at the moment?
00:56:27.000They've been trying it, but it's not working anymore.
00:56:29.000I mean, they're the ones feeding the troops into a meat grinder.
00:56:32.000They're the ones that lied and put them in this position for their own financial gain.
00:56:36.000And then they've got the gall and the nerve to, they've got the gall and the nerve to then look at us and tell us That somehow it's our fault that things aren't wonderful and glorious over there if we criticize or get involved.
00:56:53.000All we're supposed to do is just mindlessly grovel and worship whatever the new lie of the day is.
00:56:58.000I mean, look, if we put up with these guys, the White House plan has been published.
00:57:38.000Isn't bringing democracy to dozens of countries around the world, isn't that a worthy project for a great power, a benevolent great power?
00:57:44.000Well, first off, they said it was because he had rape rooms and tortured people and our government didn't bring democracy to the Middle East.
00:57:51.000They helped train Saddam in 1958 as a CIA assassin.
00:57:54.000They helped push the Ba'athists to make him the security chief in the late 60s.
00:58:07.000Our government, which isn't the American government, it's his private interest group, Republican and Democrats, what they do is they go all over the world and they actually put dictators and thugs in.
00:58:18.000So now they've shifted to, oh, we're putting democracy in Iraq.
00:59:43.000But getting back to serious issues, folks, I have here in studio with me Simon Reeve is with the National British Television Production Company that I've been interviewed by several times in the past concerning the New World Order, globalism, the movers and shakers behind the scenes and they're here today I'm making a documentary about the politics of oil for those who just joined us.
01:00:12.000In fact, you've got a chance of ending up on National British Television and some of their productions air here in the U.S.
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01:01:22.000I mean, obviously, we've come from across the other side of the Atlantic and we have our own views on the situation in Iraq, but I really, as you say, I'd really like to hear from Americans, because my understanding was that Iraq was invaded as a result of 9-11.
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01:07:45.000You got in a taxi, and what did the taxi driver say to you?
01:07:48.000Oh, well, the taxi driver said to us, and I won't attempt to do the accent, but he did recognize we were sort of vaguely English when we explained where we were from, and he said, uh, now, England, is that where English comes from?
01:09:20.000I can tell you scores from 20 years ago.
01:09:22.000They're experts on professional football.
01:09:25.000They're experts on how to act cool, or what beer is the most stylish, or what hunting rifle is the best.
01:09:30.000They're experts on what cosmetics are wonderful, or who to go to to get breast implants, or what tattoo to have.
01:09:38.000They're experts on all these petty things that the Hollywood culture has told them has value.
01:09:42.000You know, being in smaller countries like England or Ireland or Germany, you're surrounded by other cultures, and you constantly are passing over lines in other countries.
01:09:50.000So you have the understanding that, well, I mean, what, 70%, 80% of Europeans routinely travel out of their country.
01:09:57.000But in America, I think it's only 20% do in their lifetime in some cases?
01:10:52.000Well, then I'll give them to him if he wants them.
01:10:55.000And literally, they had a big study a couple of years ago, and 80-plus percent of American high school seniors didn't know who the vice president was.
01:11:12.000I mean, there was a whole Discover America first movement decades ago, and that's flown through.
01:11:16.000Why would people, in a way, want to go abroad when America is so big and beautiful?
01:11:20.000Now, I can understand that, but as a European, you would think that after 9-11, Americans would think, hang on a second, problems around the rest of the world can have an impact on us here in America.
01:11:30.000We need to take more notice about the rest of the world.
01:11:32.000I'm not sure that's really fed through into the education system yet.
01:11:36.000Well, and for hundreds of years, it took weeks or months to get here by ship.
01:12:09.000My take on this whole war on terror mess is it sounds too simplistic, but it's about control.
01:12:17.000And how I describe that is there's a great book out that goes into detail about how Redos Energy of Argentina, it's a big oil company, They had a contract with the Taliban and the Pakistani government, and I think also Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan, to run a pipeline down through those countries and deliver petroleum and natural gas.
01:12:41.000And now Unicole's got it, and the former VP of it is Mohammed Karzai.
01:12:53.000But the important thing about the whole thing is, is that war was used to offset that contract.
01:12:59.000That contract was legitimate and valid.
01:13:02.000And at the G8 conference in July of 2001, the representatives of the Taliban were threatened by the major Western powers, told them that in Don Corleone style, you will deal with us and let us build your pipeline.
01:13:17.000And if you don't go along with it, instead of us carpeting you with gold, we will carpet you with bomb.
01:13:23.000And then magically enough, 9-1-1 happens and guess who did it?
01:13:49.000Julian, let me just add a small caveat to that.
01:13:52.000Magically, over 10,000 British troops and over 44,000 US troops were mashed into Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and on aircraft carriers in the weeks before.
01:14:02.000I'm in full agreement with you on all that, Alex.
01:14:04.000attack Afghanistan on his desk two days before source MSNBC, Associated Press, Washington Post.
01:14:09.000Just magically the troops are all staged.
01:14:46.000Beside your movies, which are excellent, for the 4% of the human race that still reads books, there are three books that are important to read.
01:14:55.000One is entitled, One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, by Carl Schwartz.
01:15:01.000The other two books is Neocon, and there's a new one out called Neocon Again.
01:15:07.000Yeah, I've actually sent those around the world.
01:15:10.000One of those things is like an encyclopedia.
01:15:12.000I've got to move on so other folks can get calls, but see, there was an informed American.
01:15:16.000Well, it's good to hear, and you've got an interesting take on the situation, on the general war on terror.
01:15:21.000And I'm very interested to know if any of the other callers will have a specific take on why on earth America and Britain invaded Iraq.
01:15:28.000Because I think we've lost, I think in many ways that's just become, that's become a running war, like, you know, in almost the same way as Vietnam.
01:15:35.000We've lost the sense of why, well, why did we go there in the first place?
01:15:38.000We're there now and we're fighting... Well, it's an urban legend, it wasn't about WMDs, because he said so.
01:15:43.000I mean, there's the video clip, you ought to get it for your show.
01:15:46.000Alex, your guest just asked a question about this.
01:15:48.000And they go, well, you said that it was about WMDs and you were sure they had them.
01:16:05.000Alec, your guest just asked the question about this.
01:16:10.000The most simplistic answer was on your tape when Gary Hart came on the little snippet back in the front part of your tape saying, Bush should use this incident to set up the New World Order.
01:16:27.000Well, that is the whole main theme, Alex.
01:16:31.000About three days after 9-11 on national TV, Gary Hart and the Terrorism Commission, Hart-Rubin Commission, got up and said we need to use this disaster for world government.
01:16:40.000Well, let me tell you what's going on, Alex, in our area.
01:16:44.000We have got, in South Carolina here, in the upstate, We have got, I don't know, they've been here about four years so it would have to be somewhere around the 9-11 incident.
01:16:55.000I think we got distracted and they moved a lot of foreign people in here.
01:16:58.000But we have got a lot of people, I've got four people who have built houses in the last two years in my neighborhood from the Ukraine.
01:17:08.000Well, they seem to be very nice people, but we went up to Gatlinburg, Tennessee about a month ago, and we bumped into this fella, and he had the same accent, and I said, oh, are you from the Ukraine?
01:17:21.000And the man got very hostile at me, Alex, and then he left.
01:17:28.000And came back and he said, why did you ask me, was I from the Ukraine?
01:17:33.000And I said, well, you had sort of the same accent that my neighbor's got.
01:17:50.000Somebody gets in your face, you need to kick them in the rear end or whack them with a... Yeah, it just was amazing to me where they sell it, peddling different people into different areas.
01:18:00.000Like, the people from Belarus, they're selling them a lot of stuff.
01:18:04.000Listen, our government, we're all losing our jobs no matter what color we are in this country.
01:18:08.000And there's globalist documents saying they're going to get rid of the middle class.
01:18:11.000These people they bringing over here, Alex, does not like one another.
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01:23:13.000I'm just wondering whether Americans in general believe their government, do they believe that Iraq was invaded because it was a threat to the United States because it had weapons of mass destruction?
01:23:23.000Just wondering what you thought about that, Rose.
01:23:25.000I do not think it was on time of the weapons of mass destruction.
01:23:30.000I think they had the power that be a global thing, and there's a few underlings under that, and I think we have a power.
01:23:43.000The ones that's right under the rung of the tip-top people do not want to give up their power and hand it off to somebody else because they've got too much authority, and I think we're having a power struggle at the moment.
01:23:55.000But one thing about the Iraqi war, we have got to get up a one-world religion.
01:24:01.000We have got to go around denigrating and destroying other countries religions because you cannot have a one world religion with everybody with their own religion.
01:25:35.000Because I thought the invasion of Iraq was really as a consequence of 9-11.
01:25:39.000It's extraordinary how the focus has shifted from the people who were held responsible for 9-11 To these people in Iraq who, as we know, didn't really seem to have anything to do with 9-11 at all.
01:25:51.000Well, that would have been like if Germany would have been blitzing London in 1941, 1942, and England said, we're not going to bomb them, we're going to go bomb North Africa, or we're going to go bomb Russia.
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01:27:10.000I was in Texas in 1964 when JFK was assassinated.
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01:28:08.000The question is, the point that I'm trying to bring across, William Cooper had it documented that John F. Kennedy And I didn't go along with John F. Kennedy's morals, but I respected him as a man who was a real patriot.
01:28:20.000He wanted to go back to constitutional gold money and take us out of the... Yeah, that's true.
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01:33:06.000It just says we can do whatever we want with the kids in our custody.
01:33:22.000And then they can try to force people on drugs.
01:33:24.000And the big drug company documents came out.
01:33:28.000And the drug company documents said that we're going to double.
01:33:32.000We're going to go from 10% on these drugs to 50% on these drugs, or half.
01:33:37.000But going back to our guest, we're talking about oil, the politics of oil, the Iraq War.
01:33:43.000Before we go back to these calls here and wrap this up, Simon, the British people, they, your government, part and parcel, Tony Blair, I believe is called by the Brits now, the poodle, Bush's poodle, but really they just work for the same interests, they're both puppets and the evidence shows that.
01:33:59.000I mean, what now has been the metamorphosis of understanding and political views in England about the war?
01:34:04.000I mean, why do you think we're there now?
01:34:06.000I think the views of the British public have changed fairly dramatically, but the Brits were never fully behind the war.
01:34:14.000There was never a majority that really thought invading Iraq was a bad idea.
01:34:18.000Effectively we were led, much more than you guys were over here, we were led by Blair into backing our soldiers.
01:34:26.000Um, so, public opinion has changed, it's gone further against the war.
01:34:31.000You've seen huge demonstrations in London against the war.
01:34:35.000It doesn't back the soldiers to throw them off a cliff.
01:34:39.000If somebody's throwing soldiers off a cliff, or cutting their heads off, and they're sawing the head off, and there's blood spraying, and, please stop cutting the soldier's head off, you don't support him?
01:34:47.000No, I would agree with you, but I think, in general, Politicians, one of their main aims when a conflict is brewing or a conflict is starting, they know that they have to get the public on their side.
01:35:00.000And the means they get them on their side is by saying, the troops need your support.
01:35:06.000Yeah, I'm saying I disagree with that little... That mentality, that way of doing things is obviously, yeah.
01:35:11.000I mean, literally, if I had a... It leads to thousands of deaths as we're seeing in Iraq now.
01:35:15.000You've seen a couple of thousand American troops dying.
01:35:18.000Perhaps by the time the Iraq crisis is over, There'll be more American soldiers killed in Iraq than there were civilians killed in the Twin Towers.
01:35:27.000Well, it's amazing, and all it's done is energize hatred in the Middle East.
01:35:32.000A lot of top generals have said that this is actually creating real terrorists.
01:35:38.000I've traveled quite extensively in the last few years, and I can absolutely assure you, America's image around the world now is the lowest that, well, the polls show it's the lowest it's ever been.
01:35:49.000I don't think anyone would dispute that, but certainly you're seeing more terrorist groups developing, you're seeing more militant groups developing.
01:35:55.000It's not as though there was one finite group of individuals who could be hunted down and killed, or caught by President Bush's posse.
01:36:02.000It's an infinite sum, effectively, because they're energized, and they're encouraged, and they're militarized by the conflict in Iraq, and you look at a country like Saudi Arabia, you've got Hundreds of young men in Saudi Arabia.
01:36:16.000Hundreds of young men have left their villages and gone north to fight in Iraq.
01:36:20.000Now, they weren't members of Al-Qaeda or any particular militant organization before the Iraq War, but it seems that they're becoming so now.
01:36:26.000But Rumsfeld isn't as dumb as you'd like us to believe.
01:37:12.000Of course, I'm sure you know that in the 50s, in the name of fighting communism, our government actually went in and radicalized the Muslims.
01:37:19.000Sure, it was a means of providing troops for the battle against the evil empire.
01:37:22.000And at the time, you know, the Soviet Union was a huge threat to us all, of course.
01:37:26.000Yeah, but see, notice, I don't think it's blowback.
01:37:30.000The evidence shows that... You think it was deliberate?
01:37:33.000Well, I mean, we have the poor person who is misguided and goes and blows up other poor people.
01:37:40.000That individual may not be an MI6 agent, or a CIA agent, or a Shin Bet agent, but it's been in the Israeli papers, it's been in our papers, it's been in the British papers.
01:37:50.000It leads back to Western intelligence.
01:37:54.000It's like Operation Gladio, predominantly there in Italy, where our government would go and hire right-wingers to go blow up stuff and then blame it on the Communists.
01:38:02.000Now again, I'm no fan of the Communists.
01:38:03.000They pull the same type of stuff, but just because they do that doesn't mean we can go do that.
01:38:08.000And then pretty soon you're funding terrorists just so your defense contractor can sell weapons.
01:38:15.000Literally manufacturing and paying for the threat.
01:38:38.000The first one, Bush shouldn't be saying we need to spread democracy because in the United States we're supposed to live in a constitutionally limited representative republic.
01:38:50.000In a democracy, if 51% of people say, we're going to rob those Amish and take their land, you can't do it, because those Amish, or blacks, or Jews, or Germans, or whatever little minority group it is, they have as much rights as the majority.
01:39:03.000These are incontrovertible, inalienable rights that cannot be violated.
01:39:07.000And you notice our politicians keep drumming, democracy, democracy, democracy.
01:39:11.000That's a mob who doesn't know how many continents there are, or what their middle name is.
01:39:16.000That is literally a mob that they can just manipulate.
01:39:19.000Now, to the peak oil scam, the recent statement about Kuwait having the oil reserve reduction is about convincing the world that the peak oil is actually a reality.
01:39:31.000And in fact, the Russians have developed the deep oil drilling wells techniques for abiotic oil from the Earth's mantle.
01:39:39.000Well, Saudi just came out and said we have double the oil reserves.
01:39:45.000Correct, and one last final point is, with Lindsay Williams, the energy non-crisis, we have on Gull Island in Alaska, we have two known oil reserves that we would be awash in oil, we wouldn't need to take oil from any other country in the world.
01:40:00.000It's all about controlling and shorting the amount of oil that comes out, so that we pay more at the pump, so that the oil companies and the globalists actually make more money off of our back.
01:40:11.000So, John, can I just ask him, what's your theory then about the causes of the Gulf War, the Iraq War?
01:40:21.000I think it's primarily to stop the oil from flowing at the rate that Saddam wanted it.
01:40:25.000I think Saddam, number one, wanted to use the Euro as the backed dollar for purchasing oil.
01:40:33.000I think Saddam was going to allow the wells to flow Crazy.
01:40:38.000And if you look at what's going on with Hugo Chavez, he's been saying, hey, I'll supply the United States with lots of cheap oil, and what have you got?
01:40:46.000You've got Pat Robertson and others saying we need to assassinate the guy.
01:40:49.000Well, if he winds up giving too much oil for too cheap a price, you're going to see something happen in Venezuela.
01:40:58.000You'll be basically in the same boat in Venezuela as you are in Iraq.
01:42:08.000When I'm a wartime president, my whole domestic agenda cannot be questioned.
01:42:13.000And I'm going to go get Saddam Hussein.
01:42:15.000Now he said that in 99 to his biographer, then he goes out on national TV during the election, oh no, I don't want any foreign invasions and foreign entanglements.
01:42:23.000The whole time they were preparing to invade Iraq.
01:42:26.000While lying to the public, and then magically, the Pearl Harbor event they needed showed up.
01:42:31.000PNAC says we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event.
01:42:34.000Imagine the President's boys are going, we need a Pearl Harbor event.
01:42:37.000Now new White House documents have come out where they're saying the same thing.
01:42:40.000We need a terrorist attack to get things back on the rails.
01:43:24.000And they're saying, we want one world government.
01:43:26.000But that's a one world government that sits above the nation state and literally extracts the wealth from the people, controls the people, and social engineers the people.
01:43:34.000These corporations, I'm free market, but these aren't free market corporations.
01:43:39.000A very small part of what they do is that.
01:44:25.000As far as the whole reason why we're in Iraq, the first one is because we're naïve.
01:44:31.000We've been pampered this whole time and now people aren't going to listen because they're afraid of the truth.
01:44:38.000They're happy with their useless style of bills, their SUVs, their lying president, and if a few soldiers have to die, that's fine by them as long as they feel safe.
01:46:12.000I think he brings up the most important question, and that is, why?
01:46:19.000The entire premise of the war, from my perspective, is false.
01:46:23.000And if you're doing a documentary... I mean, how many documentaries have you done, Alex, on 9-11 and the validity of the official story?
01:46:32.000You know, that is where the meat of this is, because if we're making arguments based on a false premise, What's the point?
01:46:39.000Yeah, we have lying criminal gangsters who carry out terrorist attacks and fund terrorists in control of our government openly writing memos about how they're going to use these threats to literally herd us into accepting world empire.
01:46:54.000And we'll have these grand debates about, you know, this war and we'll never discuss the most important issue.
01:47:03.000You know, how does a The 757 make a 16-foot hole, one hole, in the Pentagon.
01:47:10.000You know, it's just, the whole thing falls like dominoes if you dig into the, you know... Why did the White House call Mayor Willie Brown in San Francisco and say, don't fly to New York tomorrow?
01:47:21.000Why did the Joint Chiefs of Staff cancel their trip?
01:47:23.000Right, if we're really going to get up in arms about this war and demand that foreign policy become corrected, we really have to dig into how this all happened and what Well, in all fairness to this, I mean, this is part of the same TV series.
01:47:55.000But there's dozens of smoking guns that we can talk about and, you know, prove there's pictures.
01:48:04.000You're not going to be able, a lot of people aren't going to listen to you about 9-11, but now they are listening because it can be proven to them that this whole Iraq war was a premeditated, manufactured fraud.
01:48:17.000So if we prove over and over again they're liars on these other issues where we've got them dead to rights, then we can move into the 9-11, which I do every day, sir.
01:48:26.000I mean, half the calls have been bringing it up.
01:48:36.000Well, I'm a foreigner, so I can get away with not having to give a judgment on that right now.
01:48:40.000But Keith, if you don't mind, I just want to ask, just to establish, I think Are you saying, Keith, that you question the entire basis of not just the war in Iraq, but the war on terror, everything about it, every little bit of information on it, right back to the attack on the Twin Towers?
01:48:58.000Well, I mean, that's where it started.
01:49:00.000You know, the American population was herded like a bunch of sheep, you know, when a shotgun blast goes off, and so we didn't ask, you know, who pulled the trigger on the shotgun, we just Ran for cover.
01:49:27.000I was just over in London a few months ago covering the London bombings, that MI6 operation.
01:49:34.000We certainly hope that the British authorities will bring Mr. Aswat, their agent, to justice, but we know that's not going to happen.
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01:58:48.000Well, this new nightmare, this new thing that's happening that our loving government is involved in, and that is, of course, saying that foster children or people in government custody, they can test whatever they want on them.
01:59:04.000And it just makes my blood boil to think of them doing this to innocent children.
01:59:10.000EPA to allow pesticide testing on orphans and mentally ill, handicapped children.
01:59:18.000And again, an orphan is somebody snatched from their parents usually.
01:59:21.000Public comments are now being accepted by the Environmental Protection Agency on its newly proposed federal regulation regarding the testing of chemicals and pesticides on human subjects.
01:59:31.000On August 2, 2005, Congress had mandated the EPA create A rule that permanently bans chemical testing on pregnant women and children, but the EPA's newly proposed rule misleadingly titled, Protections for Subjects in Human Research, puts industry profits ahead of children's welfare.
01:59:46.000The rule allows the government and industry scientists to treat children as human guinea pigs in chemical experiments in the following situations.
01:59:56.000Children who, now this is from the rule change, Children who cannot be reasonably consulted such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.
02:00:55.000We're going to break here in a moment and we'll go to our guest after the break.
02:01:00.000And that's Organic Consumer Association Environmental Scientist Craig Monona, who we had on a few weeks ago on the Congress now moving forward to basically destroy organic labeling, period.
02:01:13.000But that is important, but just the sheer evil of this.
02:01:20.000Again, it's been in the New York Daily News, it's been in the New York Papers, and a few other papers around the country, but they got caught with their pants down a few years ago in New York, the City Welfare Department did, literally renting children out to pharma and others, testing pesticides, AIDS medications, very toxic ones on them, kids that didn't even have AIDS, they were dying!
02:01:41.000There were articles where it said little Billy the first week went from being healthy and happy and liked to play basketball to having to lay in the bed.
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02:06:09.000You want something that's just outright evil, that's in your face.
02:06:13.000We've been talking a lot about the microwaving and the radiating of 110,000 Jewish children.
02:06:18.000That's in major British and Jewish newspapers over in Over in the Middle East, it is not debatable, it is public.
02:06:27.000The government took healthy little kids, it would be bad enough if they were disabled children, that's just as bad, but I mean healthy little kids, whole lives ahead of them, and would kill them, just kill them, just kill them!
02:06:38.000I mean this is what we're talking about, this is who we're fighting here.
02:06:45.000And I was just reading from the new rule being announced by the Food and Drug Administration and the EPA, the Environmental Protection Agency, and thank God a great organization, the Organic Consumers Association, that's organicconsumers.org, is joining us today.
02:07:03.000I tell you, Craig Menona is an environmental scientist with the association.
02:07:12.000Craig, it just gets crazier and crazier every day.
02:07:17.000What's going on with this new EPA situation?
02:07:21.000Well, basically the EPA had teamed up with some chemical companies last fall for what was known as the Cheers Study, which was a study that targeted low-income families in Florida.
02:07:35.000There was such a huge citizen backlash from that that Congress, led by Senator Barbara Boxer, put pressure on the EPA to drop that study as a whole.
02:07:46.000And then in August, Congress mandated that the EPA create a rule that bans all testing of children and pregnant women.
02:07:57.000And then this rule came forth as the EPA's response to that.
02:08:01.000Unfortunately, there's gaping loopholes in this rule right now, as you noted before the commercial break.
02:08:09.000Well, there's also such a long history of chemical, biological, radiological testing on disabled children and children, period, for that matter.
02:08:17.000I'm just reading the bill here, I mean, or the law, this rule.
02:08:22.000I'm reading it here and it just openly says, if kids have been abused and they don't have any rights, we're going to abuse them.
02:08:32.000If the parents are deemed as unfit, then they don't have to give consent.
02:08:36.000The same holds true for mentally handicapped kids, the rule states that kids need to also give consent, and that actually falls within the Nuremberg Code.
02:08:47.000But if they're retarded, they don't have any rights.
02:08:50.000Exactly, and also if they're orphans, then they just need the EPA or the testing facility would need consent from the institution that oversees the kids.
02:08:59.000And, of course, a lot of these institutions are pretty financially in need I apologize.
02:09:07.000Can we boost his audio, please, to me?
02:09:09.000I'm just noticing that's been happening lately.
02:09:10.000give you X number of dollars to test the kids and then tell the institution that the chemicals are relatively benign or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah. - I'm having trouble hearing you.
02:09:37.000This is pure evil right in front of us, and they just calmly do it.
02:09:41.000Craig, were you familiar with the news the last few years out of New York, where they'll actually come to a mother and say, we're going to take your 10-year-old from you, we're the CPS, but if you sign him over to us and don't argue, we'll let you keep the 2-year-old.
02:09:55.000And then they take him and just start feeding the little happy little 10-year-old, 8-year-old boy a pesticide.
02:10:01.000And then he's literally in a stretcher vomiting and dying.
02:10:05.000I mean, it's just psychopathic murdering.
02:10:07.000And then the CPS workers, finally one of them has a soul and goes public and then she gets fired and it's on the news being defended.
02:10:14.000I mean, how do you grab children and give them pesticides?
02:10:19.000Yeah, this entire document is set up for that.
02:10:22.000This is a major environmental justice issue because basically what's happening here is you're targeting Low-income families are targeting low-income institutions, and one of the weakest populations, or most vulnerable populations here in the United States and overseas.
02:10:38.000Actually, the document says that if the studies are done overseas, they're completely acceptable.
02:10:44.000So, you can expect that these chemical companies will simply start to outsource some of these studies to countries that don't have astringent laws.
02:10:54.000Well, this will please Peter Singer and the animal rights activists, though.
02:10:57.000Instead of guinea pigs and rabbits and white lab rats being killed, we'll just start... Well, actually, we're not about to start.
02:11:07.000We'll just kill and poison the little kids.
02:11:11.000We'll just maybe put them in little cages and maybe we can just move on to that level.
02:11:17.000The most confusing part about this is the Congressional mandate said that this rule needed to be set up Without exception.
02:11:25.000There's no exception to the rule that children should not be tested on, pregnant women should not be tested on.
02:11:30.000What this document does is it spends 30 pages of Fine text, most of which is just this flowery introduction about how great this entire rule is.
02:11:50.000It's a long flowery introduction that does exactly that.
02:11:53.000And you really have to look pretty deep in it to find these little, well, I shouldn't say little, these massive gaping loopholes.
02:11:59.000Well, I'm actually reading from the subsections.
02:12:02.000I mean, 70 FR 5386526.408 Section C. I mean, I'm reading here where it openly says, Children who cannot be reasonably consulted, such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns, may be tested on with permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual.
02:12:25.000The child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.
02:12:29.000Again, folks, we're talking actual lab rats.
02:13:17.000Yeah, we really didn't even know how to go about doing the alert for it.
02:13:20.000Just because it is so, it doesn't seem believable.
02:13:24.000It doesn't seem like something like this could really happen.
02:13:26.000So we had to really Spend a lot of time trying to make sure that we had dozens of external links off of our alert page that goes to the Washington Post and Baltimore Sun.
02:13:36.000Where they call the report on it like it's just the price of cheese.
02:13:44.000I mean, imagine, they're just calmly talking about, oh, we'll grab your kids, and by the way, can you trust a government to grab kids from families if they have a money incentive to do it?
02:13:54.000And, see, again, you can't trust someone that they're even taking truly abused children, see?
02:13:59.000And then we get into that whole ball of wax, how it's been proven that in most cases it is a fraud.
02:14:38.000We know this has been going on really since the 40s, some of the cases we've seen, on a massive level.
02:14:44.000But because of backlash, because of lawsuits, because of employees, some good CPS workers and others, and people that are, I mean, watching the kids die, folks.
02:15:21.000And they set up a lot of gobbledygook in there too.
02:15:25.000That's just sort of a whitewashing sort of situation where they'll say that the IRB, the Independent Review Board, can determine that if the study, that supplementary protective measures can be taken if it's determined that the chemical exposure could be dangerous for the child.
02:15:43.000So basically, if the kid gets out of the cage, literally, and is able to run down the street begging, and if the cops, of course you'll have a wristband, the cop will bring him right back.
02:15:50.000Help me please, I've been caught taking me for five years!
02:15:53.000Come with me back now, it's time to go back to your loving area.
02:15:57.000I mean, this is like a nightmare science fiction movie!
02:16:04.000Your mommy put cigarettes out on you, so now we're going to make you drink experimental drugs and pesticide.
02:16:09.000A lot of this rule was actually doctored up.
02:16:15.000It was a backroom sort of creation, too.
02:16:17.000There was no public comment period to create this rule.
02:16:21.000And there's actually six different major pesticide studies that are on the threshold of coming out right now.
02:16:28.000Our thought with this is that The manner in which those studies were conducted wouldn't be fitting for a rule that required that there was no exceptions for... Let's boil this down, folks.
02:16:41.000They're feeding the children bug poison, and then they take biopsies in blood and test and see, ooh, the liver is dying!
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02:23:05.000We're talking to, of course, environmental scientist, research scientist, Craig Menona.
02:23:09.000We're going to let him go here in just a moment, but tell us some of the, it's not just pesticides and experimental drugs, it's whatever they want, and yeah, flame retardant.
02:23:21.000That actually was initially in the proposal a brominated flame retardant which are known to cause brain damage and a whole consortium of other horrible health effects.
02:23:35.000That along with Scotchgard which has been connected with liver disease.
02:23:43.000It's just any type of chemical you can imagine.
02:23:45.000There's no restrictions within the rule at all ranging from pesticides to To flame retardants, to experimental skin applications, to whatever it may be.
02:23:56.000Any of that can be tested on the children within the study.
02:23:59.000Which, by the way, it's been in the Houston Chronicle and other places, just minor blurbs.
02:24:03.000Oh, by the way, at our Huntsville prisons, we're testing on people if they want anything but bologna sandwiches three times a day.
02:24:10.000They just sign an agreement and we graft dioxin into their backs.
02:24:15.000I mean, this is the type of stuff that goes on, and it has to stop.
02:24:19.000I mean, are any of us safe, Greg, when this type of thing is going on?
02:24:25.000I hate to keep perseverating on that, but I'm freaked out.
02:24:28.000I mean, I'm about ready to get out of this country.
02:24:32.000Yeah, one of the big things here, too, is that most of these studies are paid for and conducted by the actual chemical companies.
02:24:38.000The chemical companies then take the study results, they sift out the negative information from the studies, and they submit the positive information to the EPA, and that's what ultimately becomes regulation.
02:24:48.000And they can tell you that this little four-year-old that you gave all this dioxin to loved it and didn't get sick.
02:24:54.000Of course, the poor child's retarded and can't defend themselves.
02:24:59.000Exactly, and that's a big portion of it, too.
02:25:02.000What we've seen with these studies in the past is that they ultimately lead to a weakening of regulations on pesticides or chemicals in general.
02:25:14.000Well, it's sick and I'm tired of it and cancer is exploding and all these health problems are exploding and I don't want my family... I mean, doesn't the elite, Craig, know that it's hurting their children too?
02:25:28.000Well, it's all profit incentive and that's really what it is in these studies.
02:25:34.000Again, if you're targeting the low-income people, and this is something interesting we had with the Cheers study and the Cheers alert late last year, the EPA responded to our alert and the citizen backlash from it and saying, you know, there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.
02:25:49.000The study is is solid and great, and we responded to them with, well, why don't you volunteer your own children then?
02:25:56.000If this is such a safe study, why are you targeting this African-American, extremely low-income community in Deval, Florida?
02:26:05.000And not volunteering your own children, of course they're not doing that.
02:26:08.000You know, that really adds validity to that black professor that says the whites want to kill us, get them first.
02:26:13.000Of course it isn't true, they're doing it to white kids too, but they really do target blacks.
02:26:34.000How do they... And folks, I've read the articles, I've even seen little TV programs about it.
02:26:39.000I mean, these are like armored prison facilities.
02:26:41.000They just take these poor little kids in, and they just lab rat them, and they... You know, the Animal Liberation Front, by the way, they're all anti-human.
02:27:02.000I haven't seen them in a few years, but isn't it like 60% black and about 30% Hispanic and the other 10% white?
02:27:09.000Well, with some of these chemical studies, that's exactly what we've seen.
02:27:14.000In fact, there's very few representations from the white population altogether, which is interesting because the chemical companies say that they're doing these broad studies to figure out how these chemicals are affecting a wide range of populations, but that's obviously not the case.
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02:31:24.000But before we do that, seriously, I'm not going to belabor it.
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02:34:13.000Now, let's shift gears and go to Ted Anderson, the founder of the Genesis Network, I guess out of scratch, going back almost six years ago now.
02:34:24.000I've been on another truly rinky-dink network, but he created a new network and expanded it, and really has done a great job now.
02:34:33.000Over 300 affiliates total with all the different Genesis shows combined.
02:34:38.000And we have many of those day and night.
02:34:40.000We're always thankful for all those affiliates.
02:34:42.000But I really want to thank the founder of the GCN Radio Network.
02:34:46.000I've heard some crazy stuff where these weirdos get on the air and claim they founded the Genesis Network.
02:34:51.000I just wanted to throw that out there.
02:35:34.000It's there for when there's a real estate bust so I can sell that gold and then buy the real estate when it's at five cents on the dollar, which it really could.
02:36:27.000I'm glad you're letting me on now because right now I've got a situation just like I've had in the past where here I lock into some coins and the price goes up in gold and I still have them at the lower end.
02:36:38.000They're not going to find these coins lower priced anywhere else.
02:36:40.000That's because they're not available at a lower price anywhere.
02:36:44.000What I have right now are $5 gold pieces.
02:36:47.000They're the coins that were manufactured by the US Mint here, the United States.
02:36:50.000They are in proof in business strike condition for collector type use.
02:36:59.000I just had another price increase right before I walked in the studio, but I've held on to this position without having to have that problem.
02:37:07.000The neat part about this thing is that usually these government holders, Somebody took the time on 150 of these coins and sent them into the certificate institutes like PCGS and NGC and paid $25 a coin to get these things graded.
02:40:04.000In fact, I ought to get these posted on the website.
02:40:06.000You ought to get these posted at the GCNlive.com website.
02:40:09.000I mean, it's major financial institutions are making major moves buying gold and silver and other metals right now, and major investors are now running out of mutual funds and other things into this.
02:40:31.000Right now, at this time, the dollar is taking the hit.
02:40:33.000Everybody knows out there that the United States cannot continue to go into debt like they have been.
02:40:38.000This war out there in the Middle East... You know, I had Paul Craig Roberts, again, former associate editor of of major publications like the Wall Street Journal, and of course William F. Buckley's publication, National Review, number two at Treasury for Reagan, and he said, and he broke down the numbers, and he's an economist, folks, award-winning, I mean, he said that Bush has borrowed more money than every other president combined before him.
02:41:17.000Yeah, and what that's going to cause is it's going to cause a lot of inflation.
02:41:21.000It's going to cause the people who have been saving their money for all these years and in the stocks and the bonds and this type of thing, there's going to be a huge hit coming along in this.
02:41:29.000Interest rates are going to skyrocket.
02:41:31.000There's a real estate bubble out there.
02:41:33.000And when the interest rates rise too fast, obviously the real estate prices come down and they come down fast.
02:41:38.000And that's when I'm, you know, frankly, I'm waiting to do that, is that as soon as the bubble implodes, I'm going to go out and, you know, it may not be a lot of land, but I'll end up being able to buy a few acres of property that was, I mean, it's ridiculous, folks.
02:41:52.000I've looked at this cycle before, and you don't buy high on the real estate.
02:42:16.000You know, Alex, I gotta say too, the economy looks tough enough that you better have some small pieces of gold that you can tuck into your shoe and walk away with in case the worst comes to worst, the type of scenario that can play out like we've been talking about.
02:43:07.000Oh, and tell them it's the Alex Jones Special, to specifically take advantage of that.
02:43:13.000And Ted has put everything he's got behind this network, and it's really been good to see the network growing and getting stronger, both the network and Myos Resources, in the last year.
02:43:55.000Last week, Waddy Watt was on the phone, or he was in the studio, and he was talking, well, the other Waddy Watt, Steve, he was talking about a peaceful revolution that we're already in the midst of.
02:44:04.000What I wanted to add on top of that, it's kind of like a silent weapons for quiet wars, and GCN is probably one of the biggest weapons.
02:44:12.000Another thing, maybe you can help me out with this.
02:44:15.000I like to call what you see, it's called the web.
02:44:17.000Because you were talking about earlier about 80% that want to get rid of 80% to 85% of us.
02:44:23.000If you check things out, it's kind of biblical because they want to take it back to pre-flood.
02:44:35.000But no, I mean, the elite are just a bunch of psychopathic killers and they've got all these social Darwinistic excuses for what they're doing.
02:45:36.000It's on Infowars.com, PresidentBarnum.com.
02:45:38.000They grab little black kids, little white kids, little Hispanic kids and they take them and they strap them down and a month later they die.
02:46:44.000Then there are people that know it's evil and are afraid, so they just, well, I'll just join it, because then I'll at least protect my family.
02:46:50.000And man, those are the people that will be in the worst spot in hell.
02:47:54.000I wish I could have gone on with the last caller.
02:47:57.000Or the last guest, because let's face it, Alex, Julian Huxley, the UNESCO founder, promoted eugenics, the science of creating better people through genetic manipulation.
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02:52:14.000You can get a hold of the petition, get on there yourself, and, uh, get a copy of the petition.
02:52:20.000This all lies in the face of the fact that Codex Alimentarius, you know, came under the CAFTA, but I want to bring up... So there's a lot of restrictions?
02:52:28.000I know this was a hearing at 7.30 in the morning, Alex.
02:52:31.000I wish I could have been there, but I couldn't.
02:52:32.000But I watched C-SPAN because basically... What was it a hearing about?
02:52:37.000This is in regards to having some control over the FDA and the FTC, control over our Supplements, you know, opening up the doors.
02:52:49.000Ron Paul has a bill, I think it's the Citizen Health Freedom Group is pushing this, but I want to talk to my subject now because I got on here.
02:52:58.000I want to bring up that, you know, also because Congressman Ron Paul Kucinich, Averson from Hawaii, Walter Jones from North Carolina, brought through with HJRES 55 to get us out of Iraq homeward bound.
02:53:16.000Congressman John Martha, my congressman up here in Pennsylvania, has introduced, it's come over to KDKA, he's had a press release, keep your eyes open, to get out of Iraq.
02:53:25.000And he is a high, he will get beat up for this Alex, we better pray for him.
02:53:29.000He's not a Christian or whatever he is, I don't know what he is.
02:53:32.000If you ever get him on his show, please call him.
02:53:45.000I just wanted to talk to you real quick about a living nightmare that I'm going through, and you're not seeing a lot of coverage about that, and that's the backdoor draft.
02:53:53.000And men and women being torn from their families who haven't been in the military for years.
02:54:14.000And essentially I got a letter saying, show up or go to jail.
02:54:17.000And that's pretty much what's going on right now.
02:54:20.000It's pretty tragic and it's a pretty scary thing to basically being saying, you know, you're taken away from your family or you're going to go help, you know, fight in this invasion of another country.
02:54:37.000And that's the sad thing, is they prey on these, you know, when you're young, 18 and 20, and you go out there and you do this, and some people say, well, you know... You signed it!
02:55:31.000It boggles my mind how there's no outrage.
02:55:35.000So few Americans have the clarity to even be outraged, it seems.
02:55:38.000They, in quotes, have engineered our ignorance to the point that in order to share one outrageous fact, you have to cover so much ground bringing people up to speed.
02:55:47.000What our rights are and what freedom is, is that by the time you get to the outrageous fact, the people have already zoned out.
02:55:52.000And I just want to say that none of this will make sense until we stop listening to the puppets and work out the script that the guy behind the curtain is working from.
02:55:59.000The arrogance of government to write this crap down shows how far we've fallen.
02:56:03.000And with ignorance, Americans are placing bars on the cages of ourselves and our own children.
02:56:08.000And I appreciate that you take the time to educate your guests before you bring them on with your little diatribe.
02:56:14.000And, uh, just fight the New World Horde.