Alex Jones fills in for Pastor Butch Paugh on his radio show in Austin, Texas. Alex also talks about the FDA testing on foster children and disabled children and the government cover-up. Alex Jones is an American conservative radio host and host of the Alex Jones Show on the Global News Network.
00:00:58.000I've been honored to be asked to fill in for Pastor Butch Paugh coming up next Monday on his show.
00:01:06.000Now for the last year I've been unable to hear Pastor Butch's show here locally on the stations, There's been some lobbying, including by myself, and now we get to hear Pastor Butch on the radio again here in Austin.
00:01:19.000Now, why am I starting a radio show with that?
00:01:27.000I was thinking about books this morning because I was reading an email that he sent somebody else.
00:01:32.000They forwarded me, and he was quoting Dante's Inferno about the hottest places in hell being reserved for those that know something wrong is happening, that know that innocent people are being abused, and they decide to be neutral.
00:01:48.000Neutrality is bad, ladies and gentlemen.
00:01:50.000Christ said that you were neither hot nor cold, so I spit you out of my mouth.
00:01:57.000I actually respect the evil Satanists.
00:02:07.000They've cast their lot with the old serpent.
00:02:10.000But you've got these other people out there that know about good and evil, but they just decide to kind of namby-pamby dance around in the middle of it, thinking they're safe on the fence, thinking they're safe in the middle of the road, and that's the most dangerous place to be.
00:02:25.000And, of course, I love from the bottom of my heart and the depths of my soul, and I admire and I am thankful for all the good people in the world that stand up for beauty and stand up for innocence and stand up for decency.
00:02:39.000I was reading this morning how they convicted that Joseph Smith character, the famous video in Florida a few years ago where he just grabs a little, I don't know, 10-year-old girl and kidnaps her and ties her up and rapes her for four days and strangles her.
00:03:13.000Every form of degeneracy, every form of wickedness, every form of twisted behavior is exploding right now like a wild fever running through the body politic.
00:03:27.000It's just burning away everything good and decent and it's all under attack.
00:03:33.000Everything good is threatened right now like never before in human history.
00:03:59.000I got an email here saying, Alex, I don't see the proof of the FDA testing on people.
00:04:05.000They're approving rules for the testing on foster children, handicapped children, And, uh, S. Fieldman sent me this email saying everything Alex has ever said I've checked up and it's been backed up, but he says, I just can't find out where this is true.
00:04:21.000Well, okay, sir, we'll go over some of that for you here today.
00:04:27.000I mean, if you don't know that there's been chemical, biological, and radiological testing on children in America for 70 plus years, you're not looking very hard.
00:04:38.000And this is just a codification publicly.
00:04:41.000So we'll go back into this when we start the second segment and then... There's just so much news.
00:04:48.000Bush's approval rating falls to even a lower level.
00:04:50.000I mean, if he keeps falling at this rate, he'll have an approval rating of like 10 points by the middle of next year.
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00:08:55.000We are equipped with The instincts to be able to deal with it, better than losing a child, a lot better than losing a brother or a sister.
00:09:10.000People are meant to live out their life cycle, to be little babies and to be loved and then to become adolescents and be rebellious and leave the hut and go set up your own hut and start your own family.
00:09:22.000Have your own children and then become grandparents and if you're blessed become great-grandparents and then go back into the earth, go back into dust.
00:09:32.000But we should all appreciate life every time we see the night sky, every time we see the sunset, every time we see a happy family that's straight and strong and filled with joy.
00:09:45.000Every time we see a flock of birds land Land and a lake.
00:10:20.000And all they'll find is pain and suffering down that road.
00:10:24.000And you will find it down that road prematurely.
00:10:27.000Don't worry, you're going to find pain and suffering in your life.
00:10:31.000And a lot of times you find even greater pain and suffering when you do try to avoid it.
00:10:38.000Now there is such a thing as necessary suffering in this world.
00:10:44.000And much of the problems we see today are because we try to do what's quick and what's easy and what only satisfies our flesh, our base instincts.
00:10:55.000But history shows us and the history of societies and civilizations shows us clearly That when people stand up and are involved, and are aggressive, and are dynamic, and are passionate, and are loving, and are individualistic, you have milk and honey.
00:11:17.000But history shows, just like a fine Swiss watch, Right on time that the children of those pioneers tend to be a little less self-sufficient, a little less made of the same metal, a little more pampered.
00:11:37.000And then the children of those children get even more pampered.
00:11:40.000And then soon, you're dealing with decadent, dumbed-down, mindless sloths.
00:11:47.000And I count myself, in many respects, one of them.
00:11:52.000But compared to many other people I see, it's terrifying.
00:11:56.000There are many, many steps down the ladder into that pit further than I have fallen.
00:12:01.000We've got to dig ourselves out of this if we want to be blessed and want to be rewarded.
00:12:07.000I'm not going to go into any more preaching.
00:12:09.000It's just that I realize how blessed I am, how lucky I am, how just unbelievable my life is, the capacity I've been given, the responsibility I've been given.
00:12:21.000To be able to talk to millions of people every day, and to be able to talk to tens of millions on all the other talk show interviews I do, on other radio shows and TV shows, and to have InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:13:09.000And sometimes I see things that are so good and so beautiful that I get a tear in my eye.
00:13:12.000people that are being persecuted and I'll get some tears in my eyes and I don't see that as weakness I see that as strength and sometimes I see things that are so good and so beautiful that I get a tear in my eye but driving home yesterday from the radio show I began to cry I just thought about how they take people's newborn babies in China and kill them and sell their body parts I
00:13:36.000I just felt the pain, just a shadow, just an inkling of the pain of those mothers and those fathers and those grandparents living in that vice grip of evil.
00:13:49.000And I thought about I thought about all the little black children predominantly and some white children and Hispanic children taken by CPS all over the country and taken and given to medical institutions and farms where they test everything from pesticides to flame retardant material to drugs on them and they kill them in many cases and it is a normal, it is a real response
00:14:18.000If your heart has been blackened, if your conscience, if your soul isn't pink and soft, then it's already begun to harden.
00:14:31.000I don't know how people can harden their hearts.
00:14:33.000I don't know how people can be so self-centered that they're not involved in fighting this.
00:14:38.000I don't know how we can just sit here and watch all of this happen and put up with this.
00:14:48.000On the air, I went into how this is real to me, and how somebody's got to speak for these people.
00:14:54.000Because just a good old boy, and I could hear it in his voice, he meant well.
00:15:16.000He really thought I was just making all this up.
00:15:20.000He really thought I was making it up that Bush... I knew he got us in debt, but I didn't know what Paul Craig Roberts, the former chief economist at the Treasury Department, talked about last week.
00:15:33.000I didn't know that he got us in more debt than all the presidents before, including Bill Clinton.
00:15:38.000All of them together, combined in history, in 225 years.
00:16:35.000Chapter 32, subsection 1520A, paragraph B, where the federal government authorizes the covert testing for experimental reasons, any chemical, biological, or radiological system they wish for experimentation or for the public good and some other bumbo-jumbo.
00:16:56.000And if you don't know about the Tuskegee with the syphilis and all the atomic soldiers and the radiating the little kids and all of it.
00:17:09.000None are so blind as those that don't have eyes to see.
00:17:12.000And I don't know what you're talking about in this email.
00:17:16.000Dear InfoWars, and I'm sure this person's nice too.
00:17:19.000Until now, everything I've ever heard Alex say has been backed up by other sources.
00:17:23.000I am not certain, however, this That his explanation of the chemical testing on children is accurate.
00:17:30.000It seems from the EPA study that the children will not be exposed to any additional chemicals other than those than what are already being exposed to in their homes.
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00:24:08.000All right, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:24:36.000And yes, coming up today, we had him in studio back on Monday.
00:24:42.000And they're about to go back to England tomorrow, so we're going to have them back in studio today, and that's going to be Paul Watson and of course his brother Steve Watson that are here in the United States, the respective webmasters of PrisonPlanet.tv, PrisonPlanet.com, and InfoWars.net.
00:25:07.000I'm good friends with Tex Marx and Wanda Mars.
00:25:11.000They're just really sweet, good people.
00:25:14.000Did you know their daughter died yesterday after losing a battle with esophageal cancer?
00:25:21.000Please don't call them and bug them and bother them, folks.
00:25:25.000I know that most people don't even know about it, but I think we should pray for Tex and Wanda because I just couldn't imagine losing a child.
00:25:34.000That's got to be one of the Most horrible things there is out there to lose a child.
00:25:41.000I mean, it's bad enough to lose a parent or a grandparent, as I talked about at the start of the show, but I didn't go there, but I am going there.
00:25:49.000But just imagine, in the order of things, the scheme of things, losing a child.
00:26:43.000I was really upset driving home, and I was comforted that I'm doing the best I can, that evil is always punished, that there are good people in the world.
00:26:56.000There are a lot of good things that are left in the world.
00:26:59.000And just that... I don't know what to say.
00:27:06.000It's... For those out there, there's just so many good people.
00:27:18.000They're like that ten-year-old girl who was walking home from her friend's house, down the street from her house, from a sleepover, And a sack of maggots, a sack of hell pus, and that's the only way I can describe it.
00:27:34.000Somebody, I would like to just torture that person to death, but I wouldn't do that.
00:27:42.000I wouldn't do that to Joseph Smith, and that was his name, Joe Smith, who had three daughters himself, and he went and he grabbed her for his own demonic Satisfaction and he tied her down in horror and raped her and raped her and raped her for days and then he strangled the life out of her.
00:28:03.000But because evil is so dangerous, we can't give into it even if it feels like vengeance is ours.
00:28:08.000It isn't because if we tortured that maggot, we would lower ourselves in some respect to his level.
00:28:57.000It's just as evil, in fact, in many levels, it's more evil to have this organized system where the foster children are here, they're three-year-olds, and they're going to be part of a little study, and they're wards of the state, and if you're wards of the state, the government can basically give you to corporations for testing.
00:29:16.000And then they take them, and they give them toxic drugs, and they test their blood, and check their livers, and they get serious health problems, they get sick, they die.
00:29:25.000Then there's the cases in our own country, in Israel and other areas, where they just take little five-year-olds in, and strap them in, and send high radiation to their little skulls.
00:29:35.000And a large portion die, and the others are brain damaged for life.
00:30:06.000Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.
00:30:09.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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00:33:20.000And I'm going to cycle through your calls quickly.
00:33:26.000I don't think I've given the number out today, but we have loaded phone lines.
00:33:30.000I'm not against doing that, having loaded phone lines from the first five minutes of the show, but a lot of times it tends that people are really off on wild agendas or plug fest, which again doesn't bother me unless it's abused.
00:34:01.000And there is just a whole host of news.
00:34:03.000Bush's approval ratings fall again, the whole show.
00:34:06.000Cheney is vice president for torture, and that's former CIA director.
00:34:09.000That's right, a former CIA director and a conservative, Admiral Stansfield Turner, says we're turning into an absolutely disgusting police state and we're all in danger.
00:34:20.000Just like Paul Craig Roberts, highest level conservative you can pretty much get, saying the same thing.
00:34:25.000It's Nazi Germany, they're total scum.
00:36:33.000And shocking pictures released of more Iraq torture.
00:36:36.000And the Washington Post is saying, our source is not Dick Cheney for the leak.
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00:36:50.000And believe 9-11 was an inside job, believe the country.
00:36:53.000Curt Nemo is reporting on Tucker Carlson and others.
00:36:56.000I want to get more into these documents.
00:36:57.000It says oil chiefs met with Cheney Task Force.
00:37:01.000Because this is just catching them red-handed in lies and the chemical and pesticide and drug testing on foster children and mentally retarded children, handicapped children.
00:37:10.000It's just, what you do to the least, you do to me.
00:37:18.000And if you can sit there as the strong, well, they're going to wait until you're in the nursing home, folks, to rip you off and not change your sheets.
00:37:25.000And your kids will all be decadent and 45 years old and won't care about you.
00:37:29.000They're going to wait until you have that stroke to kill you in the hospital and steal your organs.
00:37:32.000They're going to wait, you see, and you're going to be in that position someday, and you could have had 20 years of life ahead of you, but somebody didn't take care of you, so it's over for you.
00:44:22.000You tuned in to hear about Kentucky Fried Chicken Squid.
00:44:27.000Seriously, we've got all this news to go over, but you guys are watching television.
00:44:32.000We've written articles about Berlusconi, the president over in Italy, Putin, the king from Jordan, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Dan Quayle, I mean everybody doing the Diablo.
00:44:51.000I don't mean, you know, the I love you, doing the Diablo over and over again, and then Jax Mars wrote a book that's just full of preachers constantly doing it.
00:45:00.000And they will say, oh Jesus, and then do the sign of the devil.
00:45:07.000And so I got over to the hotel room you guys were in last night, and I walk in there and you've got your laptop on, Codex Magica open, and you're like, look at this!
00:45:17.000You've finally been able to find it and download it.
00:45:20.000Well, he was doing a bunch of stuff in his TV show on 700 Club.
00:45:23.000A lot of you may have seen it yesterday, how Big Brother's here to stay, oh, threat of scanning at the public schools isn't a big deal.
00:45:59.000They were talking about physical ailments.
00:46:01.000He kept doing the hand over the heart gesture which according to Tex Marser's book again in some circles is a sign of the occult.
00:46:11.000Then he started talking about an ailment of abdominal pain or something like that and he closed his eyes and he started talking about the burning.
00:46:19.000You can feel the fire, you can feel the fire.
00:46:22.000And then about a minute later Um, he's talking about something else, and he clearly flashes El Diablo.
00:46:30.000I didn't see it at first on the television, but my brother saw it.
00:47:01.000Yeah, so, I thought, there's an article in itself, um, we went on the 700 Club's website, found the live stream, um, I downloaded some special software, it took all day to download the video because it was half a gig.
00:47:16.000Um, and we did capture the El Diablo sign when he did it, um, and the answer to the question about biometrics, so we've got an article coming up in the next couple of days.
00:47:25.000And Steve, this isn't just passing, I mean, what did you think when you saw it?
00:47:28.000You've, uh, I mean, we've now seen the video, we have video, it's going up in the next day or so, but, but I mean, tell the folks what, I mean, it was totally obvious.
00:47:37.000Yeah, well, I mean, it's, it's, it's often very easy for paparazzi photographers or whoever to capture celebrities Um, waving, and it kind of looks like the El Diablo sign, but this was clear.
00:47:50.000It was... He basically held up his hand, and as he was talking... He was saying the name Jesus.
00:47:56.000He was saying Jesus, Jesus, and he basically transformed it into the El Diablo sign.
00:48:00.000It's... It's not an easy thing to do, either.
00:48:03.000You have to really think about what you're doing with your hand.
00:48:05.000No, he touched thumb to the two middle fingers.
00:48:07.000I mean, he, he, he... Yeah, it was a full sign, yeah.
00:50:00.000At the end of the biometric justification and advocacy, He said, well at least we don't have to give DNA or blood samples yet, which is actually happening if you read the news.
00:50:12.000I think he said that might be a problem.
00:50:14.000I see now we're even, and look, I saw him like three years ago on TV, we have the clip, we played it on the local show, and he says, oh microchips, that's not a problem, yeah.
00:50:22.000Yeah, let's go ahead and get our, I mean, yeah.
00:50:25.000And people are like, hey, Pat Robertson didn't say that.
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00:55:05.000And then, really, the leader of the pagans is the big Christian leader.
00:55:09.000Remember when they all dance around and the cops catch them?
00:55:14.000I mean, that's Hollywood just flaunting it, just throwing it in our face.
00:55:18.000This is what they're into, but it's kept very quiet.
00:55:23.000Just comments on why they do this, why they believe in this, why they're just raving lunatics, I guess.
00:55:29.000Well, I mean, Tate Robertson is basically the voice of Christian America for a lot of people.
00:55:35.000If he's coming out with a stance, even if you bypass the El Diablo, even if you think that was accidental, which it blatantly wasn't, some people do take it too far and say that everybody's doing it, but that was deliberate, but bypassing that, Just the advocacy of Big Brother.
00:55:52.000Mainstream Christians in America will take that as the kind of platform of Christianity in the new millennium.
00:55:59.000Oh yeah, microchips and face scanners and cameras, that's the Lord!
00:56:39.000I don't know about these, but now he's, look, it's good, all right?
00:56:44.000And by the way, I mean, it's just, it's just in your face.
00:56:49.000And then, on the subject of the schools, um, it's not a training ground for a police state, it is a police state, it is a jail when you've got surveillance cameras everywhere.
00:56:59.000You've got armed guards everywhere now in schools.
00:57:02.000It's just like the prisons, where every day they go, alright, lock down, open your jails up, we're gonna search your stuff.
00:57:07.000I got articles every day where they just come in with dogs and line the kids up and search them and yell at them.
00:57:13.000And then they stifle the natural growth of the child with Ritalin and all these other street drugs.
00:57:18.000You know, ban TAG, ban Daisy Chains, and it just stifles the natural upbringing and education which would go along with any normal childhood.
00:57:26.000And then they replace it with all this authoritarian police state stuff, so... Well, we gotta ban Dodgeball and TAG.
00:57:54.000Well, yeah, they're doing it through culture.
00:57:55.000They're doing it through Reading newspapers, but mainly, you know, through creating norms and stereotypes of trendiness, which is what a lot of people buy into.
00:58:06.000Trendiness is hating guns, hating family, hating freedom.
00:58:10.000So, they're buying into a lifestyle, they get kickbacks of their ego, it's peer pressure.
00:58:15.000So that's the main frontier of the attack, and that's the one that we've got to focus on even more.
00:58:20.000Well, maybe now, if you don't flash the sign of the devil, you're not really Christian.
00:58:24.000Maybe that's actually a Christian symbol.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000We've had so many requests to re-air it that coming up to the third hour, we're going to play the Paul Craig Roberts interview from last Friday.
00:59:23.000We talk about America becoming Nazi Germany.
00:59:26.000The design destruction of the economy, it's all coming up, but we've got an hour more live with you on this Friday edition in the studio of Paul Watson and Steve Watson.
00:59:36.000I want to talk a little bit about what happened in London while we were there and just the Big Brother police state and the population and how they responded.
00:59:46.000I want to do that and talk about some of the articles you guys wrote about that before you leave us, because quite frankly we're shooting in here for the British documentary I'm making.
01:00:19.000Yeah, Alex, I talked with you a couple of months ago, I guess it was, a month and a half, something like that, and I told you that George Norrie had a friend who said there were bomb Uh, are blast marks found on the, uh, dykes there?
01:01:00.000I know this, the FEMA deliberately sabotaged things, they jammed the police communications day one, blocked the aid getting in, to make it as bad as they could.
01:01:27.000Alex, I was listening to a popular syndicated talk show a while ago and the host was alluding to a story about a man who had HIV and then 14 months later mysteriously it was gone.
01:01:40.000What do you think happened with Magic Johnson?
01:01:44.000Actually, the virus doesn't really cause AIDS, and that's a whole other show, and I mentioned this back on Tuesday when it first broke.
01:01:52.000It's been well known, but yeah, it's finally in the BBC and the Independent and the Telegraph, it's finally in British newspapers and French newspapers.
01:01:59.000That you can actually recharge your immune system and get it back in most cases.
01:02:08.000What they do is they find people who already just so happen to have this virus in them that is a mild virus overall and most people that are actually dying of AIDS either already have bad immune systems or already were hemophiliacs and had problems and then they get complicating other diseases or cancers or hepatitis
01:02:28.000that kills them, but most of the people dying, you know, we're having 100 sexual partners a month, folks, I'm not kidding, were literally, I mean, I don't want to go into any details here, but it's not a very pretty picture, and snorting methamphetamine, but it's not a very pretty picture, and snorting methamphetamine, using street drugs that are dirty, full of all sorts of heavy metals and toxins, and then that just kills your, the life force in your body,
01:02:57.000It kills the T lymphocytes, and that is what kills you.
01:03:00.000And I had doctors tell me this when I was like 15 years old.
01:03:04.000I read this in medical journals when I was like 16 years old.
01:03:10.000The thing that was weird about it, though, was he was alluding to Whether or not the government has a right, now right, to nab his DNA to see whether or not he has a genetic quote-unquote cure for the virus.
01:03:23.000Well stay there, I want to hear, well of course they got some weird police state angle.
01:03:28.000Actually there was a federal court appeal a few years ago where they ruled that when you give blood at the hospital or blood to a company or blood test they're allowed to sell that and anything they find in your blood you don't have intellectual property rights to it.
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01:06:01.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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01:07:55.000Or other viruses that wouldn't affect you will be able to affect you, and cancer viruses that were already in you from vaccines or from The foreign RNA that was placed into your bloodstream because you had thousands of sexual partners is going to overwhelm and short-circuit you.
01:08:19.000Now they've caught them in Africa, people who have never been sexually active, whose parents don't have AIDS or HIV.
01:08:25.000Let me tell you, the virus that causes AIDS.
01:08:28.000And this has been in the BBC, remember a few years ago, and they said, well then why do all these kids have it?
01:08:32.000And all they could link it to was the shots, and then some people broke in, and some scientists in India and Africa looked at it, and lo and behold, there was magically HIV virus in the needles.
01:08:44.000And then it was in the news, well they must have been there because they were sharing the needles.
01:08:48.000The UN was giving kids a shot, 100 kids a shot with the same needle.
01:08:53.000And then I got a call, people say, well Alex, I thought you just said that the HIV virus doesn't cause AIDS.
01:09:01.000Well, they've found other little, little pathogens and goodies in the shots they're giving them.
01:09:08.000I mean, this is all over the foreign press.
01:09:10.000They've caught them adding different hormones to tetanus shots than sterilized women.
01:09:15.000They've caught them with deadly cancer viruses being added.
01:09:18.000Just a few weeks ago, there was some new cancer virus that spread all over England, and it's killing thousands and thousands of people a year that was in some vaccines.
01:09:29.000I mean, Paul, Steve, how often do you see stuff like that in the news?
01:09:48.000It's a cover for the other stuff, and then they're killing you with it, and then the virus is just there, and they go, ooh, antibodies for the virus, and then you never look at... It's like I stab you with a sword, And then make you eat an aspirin as you're bleeding to death, and I say the aspirin killed you.
01:10:04.000Yeah, it's a story about the guy who beat HIV with vitamins and alternative health.
01:10:09.000Again, it highlights a question to me.
01:10:13.000Is the EU regulation banning the vitamins in high doses, which are not even high dose?
01:10:20.000Is that simply to create a monopoly market and make money?
01:10:24.000Or is it because they know that these kind of treatments and alternative therapies aid our health to a magnitude that could never be matched by any pharmaceutical product?
01:10:35.000Yeah, we didn't just fall off the turnip truck here, pun intended folks.
01:10:38.000We've been saying vitamins can beat it if you didn't totally burn yourself out and if you stopped snorting the methamphetamine.
01:10:45.000I mean, I've known several people that died of AIDS in a tertiary manner, and I knew they were drug addicts.
01:10:50.000And as they were dying, they were still snorting methamphetamine.
01:10:53.000Because the methamphetamine was killing them.
01:10:57.000That's the type of... I mean, go ahead.
01:10:59.000Yeah, Big Pharma's come out immediately after he made the claim and said, we've got to study this, even though he'd had, like, four or five separate tests by separate medical institutions, which said the same thing, that he'd defeated it.
01:11:11.000So they're going to come out on the attack, whereas, you know, their poison, Tamiflu, is turning kids in.
01:11:37.000And if it's, um, Sold as the solution to bird flu, if they play that card with, of course, Rumsfeld and top Bilderberg members owning the stock, you know, that percentage of people becoming ill, suicidal from the Tamiflu is only going to go through the roof.
01:11:52.000And last time they owned the stock with the Cipro, and made billions, and it's just the same thing every time.
01:11:58.000Yeah, White House was on Cipro before the Anthrax attacks and it led back to Fort Detrick to secure U.S.
01:12:04.000base and they'd done the test years before about sending weaponized Anthrax through the mail.
01:12:09.000So I mean it's in their agenda to create these bio-attacks because it doesn't necessarily damage their infrastructure but it creates mass panic and terror even on a small level.
01:12:20.000And they get to also at the same time prance around as our saviors.
01:12:22.000Does that answer your question Ben in Mississippi?
01:12:25.000Yes it does, but the most disturbing thing about it was he alluded to intimate domain and how the government can of course take your property for as he said, the common good.
01:12:33.000He said if they can do that, maybe they can take your own DNA.
01:12:46.000I mean, was he for it or was he being flippant?
01:12:49.000No, he was being, he was actually questioning it.
01:12:52.000He was actually raising that as a question that maybe if someone, I mean if the government can take your property as if we're a piece of property.
01:13:01.000Well they already call us, we're no longer called employees or staff or members of the team.
01:13:09.000Yeah, I guess they'll have a ball and chain around my foot, boat over a cotton row here soon.
01:13:13.000What do you think about the FDA about the change the rules where they can take mentally ill children or healthy children that have been taken from their parents?
01:13:23.000If the government is the guardian, they can test pesticides, chemicals, flame retardants, toxic levels of whatever they want on them.
01:14:33.000It's one that's never been there before.
01:14:35.000And as you said, George and Uri's taking it in the direction of really hardcore information.
01:14:40.000They're kind of moving away from the more amorphous stuff that you can't prove, although it's interesting and that's how they got the views in the first place.
01:14:47.000But now they're tackling really hardcore issues and we can only commend them for it and thank them for giving us the opportunity to be involved with that.
01:14:54.000I mean, they never tell me what I can or can't talk about.
01:14:57.000I just come on the air and I can talk about the FDA about to approve the murder of children.
01:15:18.000When they start doing the right thing, when the media starts taking a bold stance, when people are doing a good job, you know, Lou Dobbs, when he's done good on the immigration issue and a few other issues like NAFTA and GATT and the free trade area of the Americas, he helped kill that.
01:15:32.000Hugo Chavez does the right thing, we've got to thank him.
01:15:34.000I mean, when people in power do the right thing, we need to support them.
01:16:46.000It's like shooting yourself in the head and calling it therapy.
01:16:49.000They then, for six months, every day, LSD, PCP, peyote, mescaline, cocktails, mushrooms, cocktails of this with headsets on, just like I'm wearing right now, scrapped in with bags so they didn't even get up to go to the bathroom. scrapped in with bags so they didn't even get up It was all just catheterized or going into a bag.
01:17:16.000Feeding them, telling them who they are, programming them with key words, and they actually could create total zombies who you'd say, be happy and be a ballerina.
01:17:57.000Well, see, it's always gotta... MKUltra's admitted, they did that, they tortured these children, they really did it, but no, you, they dressed you up like a gray and you were... Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, before... Fighting with the turkeys and... Wait a minute, before you discount me, would you read what I have on my website?
01:18:42.000The government did do this to people, and I think if we mix in, dressed up... If we mix space aliens into it, it just... I just can't handle it.
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01:22:52.000Well, just a little shout-out to the Alamo Draft House.
01:22:58.000They were already sold out for I Walk the Line, or Walk the Line Johnny Cash movie tonight, but I got some tickets.
01:23:09.000We're going to be going to that tonight, Alamo Drafthouse.
01:23:13.000Okay, I don't know why I'm talking about the movie I'm going to go see on the air, but you see what happens is, again, I'm in studio now, I have guests in studio, I'm not in my little cubbyhole pod on board a gray spaceship that I used to do.
01:23:27.000Look, to the lady earlier, Paul was saying that a lot of evidence shows, and this is true, that black helicopters are associated with cattle mutilations that really do happen, that a lot of people that are getting kidnapped by people in these little rubber suits, Are being taken to underground facilities that we know exist, and that this is part of some larger government psyops.
01:23:48.000And we've even gotten government documents on potential plans.
01:23:53.000They considered it in the first Iraq invasion to have a fake alien invasion with these big projectors that can shoot like a 500 foot across, 200 foot tall spaceship, or Buddha, or Jesus, or Allah.
01:24:07.000You see these Las Vegas lights and all this?
01:24:09.000I've seen those in the stuff of Mexico City.
01:24:48.000Yeah, there's a chapter in Order Out of Chaos called Counterfeit Foe, the next Hegelian dialectic, something like that.
01:24:56.000It's basically, when terrorism has run its course, they're probably going to use universal threats, as Reagan said in that speech in the UN, as the next fear-mongering tool.
01:25:08.000So it could come from asteroids, weather, which they seem to be using at the moment, or even UFO invasions that are staged.
01:25:20.000It could happen five, ten years in the future.
01:25:23.000As Alex was saying, a lot of these abductions indicate that it's basically military testing.
01:25:30.000They abduct people and do testing on them.
01:25:33.000I'll say this, about 98% of the people saying it are complete lunatics.
01:25:38.000It doesn't help things to have the news saying, take your microchip to prove you're good.
01:25:42.000Andy Rooney and the former Health and Human Services Secretary Thompson, they really are on TV saying, take your chip.
01:25:51.000Sean Hannity on Fox News, a little clip of it, is actually in the film The Masters of Terror, and he says, every child needs a chip, I'm buying stock, take your chip.
01:26:00.000I mean, we're living in this bizarro world.
01:28:05.000That's basically what it is in 99% of the cases.
01:28:09.000Yeah, you're always seeing it at military testing grounds, and then they go, oh, the aliens are visiting us at the military skunk works, where they test experimental aircraft.
01:28:16.000Wow, we're seeing weird, weird, weird objects at the experimental testing ground.
01:28:21.000It's, it's not our government, it's purple blood-sucking goblins from the 4000th dimension, under rheumoroid-reptoid control.
01:28:32.000Well, I just, I'm sorry folks, uh, you, you got the wrong show, because We're about verifying, verifying, verifying.
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01:35:16.000I'm going to talk to Ron, Jeff, Andrew, and Tom, and that's going to be it because I want to get into a little bit about what happened in London when we were there.
01:35:24.000I want to get off into, well first we'll cover some of the news we haven't gotten to and then we'll get off into London.
01:35:30.000But I do hope that listeners out there will take advantage of the specials we're running until the first of the year, then they're gone.
01:35:43.000There's something I'd like to bring to the attention of your listeners a little bit closer to earth.
01:35:48.000This went by pretty much, I think, unnoticed by most people.
01:35:52.000And it was in reference to a piece of legislation that passed the House of Representatives about a week ago, and it's referred to as the Secure Access to Justice and Court Protection Act.
01:36:03.000Now, there were amendments added to that bill, and I think they're what make it even the most onerous thing of all.
01:36:09.000What they did is they put an amendment through, there wasn't much discussion, it was passed on a voice vote, with regards to the posting of what they referred to as personal data on police officers over the internet.
01:36:22.000Now, they're all legitimate cases in which I do understand that that could be a problem, or a hazard, and they couched the debate in those terms they spoke of, for instance, That's what it's about.
01:36:32.000Basically, the law is written so broadly that it wouldn't just include those legitimate cases where we should be careful, and I'm in favor of that.
01:36:40.000about basically the laws written so broadly that it wouldn't just include those legitimate cases where we should be careful and i'm in favor of that i'm not i'm not fanatical however it includes other cases it would wind up shielding police misconduct from shame or from public That's wrong.
01:37:44.000Back to what you were talking about earlier with the fake Christians on TV and all that stuff.
01:37:50.000It goes in with the Grove, and it's just a couple of little points, and I'll be as clear as I can.
01:37:55.000The thing is, I'm a member of Prison Planet TV and I've got your new Bohemian Grove release.
01:38:00.000And I was watching it, kind of listening to the words, or looking at the words of what's said during the ceremony.
01:38:06.000And it just amazes me, the tithing with the Old Testament, exactly, where Gideon... Oh no, no, this is deeply, deeply, this is black magic!
01:38:16.000No, everything they say is... I'm sorry, go ahead.
01:38:20.000Well, that's the thing, Gideon, before he could free the people from the Midianites, had to knock down the idol and burn the grove.
01:38:26.000And then, the thing about it, when Tarith's talking during the ceremony, he said that, you know, I believe it says, The Voice of Hawaii.
01:38:34.000After a year ye burn me in this grove.
01:38:36.000Absolutely, and he says they refer to the owl as a prince, which is how all angels were referred to in the Old Testament as princes, and Daniel 10 talks about the prince of Persia.
01:38:47.000Look, the whole thing, and ridden the stones of Babylon and Goodly Tyre where they did the Moloch sacrifices, but it's worse than that.
01:38:57.000If you really study the occultism behind it, and a listener pointed this out when I screened it at the Alamo Draft House here locally a few months ago, or actually a few weeks ago, He said, are you familiar with Faust?
01:39:38.000Well, in the New Testament, when there was a part where Jesus went to a place and a person that was possessed with a demon actually saw Christ, came and bowed down before him and said, Have you come to torment me before the time?
01:40:44.000No, it's all totally crafted with incredible knowledge of the Bible to be blasphemous.
01:40:48.000It's like Pat Robertson going, oh Jesus, Jesus, while he's talking about healing somebody and he calls down the power and then actually invokes the spell.
01:40:58.000I mean, that's what they do in black magic, people!
01:41:58.000We also want you to analyze propaganda on TV, and if you can get a screenshot of it, or get a shot off the TV show's website, and then tell us the show number, and then send us the plot of the show, and what propaganda you saw, we're going to create a huge section on that.
01:42:12.000Because that, again, I keep saying it for years, we've got to make the shift.
01:42:16.000Most of the propaganda is not in the news, it's on the TV shows.
01:42:47.000California inventor Elwood Woody Norris, he invented a soundless sound system that works by sending a focused beam of sound above the range of human hearing.
01:42:55.000People at whom the beam is directed hear the sound coming from inside their head and he says, imagine you are a lifeguard or coach and you want to yell at somebody, he'll be the only one to hear you, he explained.
01:43:05.000No, I've had the CEO of the company that's already put those in coke machines in Japan and China five years ago.
01:44:30.000Is it, is it, the real stuff's going on, then you have crazy people, and then it makes more people who are borderline crazy really go nuts.
01:44:37.000Can you imagine being a, you know, one of these schizophrenics, turns on the TV and the, and all the talking heads are going, I want a chip!
01:45:07.000I'm calling to talk about an issue with vaccination.
01:45:13.000I'm a head of a veterans organization here in Ohio called the Unified Veterans Coalition, and I've been studying Squalene in the anthrax vaccines that have been given to our troops since the Gulf War.
01:45:28.000And I've been reading up on it and contacting Dr. Pamela Asa down at Tulane University.
01:45:35.000Well, according to the medical doctors we've interviewed, I mean, it's not really good for you, but compared to mercury and the viruses and the DNA fragments, it's kind of the least of my concerns.
01:45:46.000Well, one of the issues about it is the squalene is actually One of the adjuvants, like you mentioned, like the thimerosal and the mercury, only it causes autoimmune illnesses.
01:45:58.000So, you know, this goes along with that whole concept of keeping people in a lowered state or to where the drug companies could sell them drugs, perhaps.
01:46:10.000But this additive has been in vaccines Since the Gulf War, in different levels, they've been able to test it at different levels.
01:46:19.000It's not supposed to be in there, but it is.
01:46:22.000They've tested military personnel both before and after they've had the vaccines.
01:46:27.000And before they had the vaccines, they didn't have the antibodies, the squalene.
01:46:31.000After they did, and it seems simple enough.
01:47:06.000And then we'll get into We'll get into documents as Old Chiefs met with Cheney Task Force and a lot more.
01:47:19.000When we were in London, I mean, there were so many facets to it, but what was it like to have the police march up to you and tell you to turn your camera off when you were just on a public street interviewing people?
01:47:31.000Well, I mean, the fear-mongering at the time, we were there right after the bombings.
01:47:37.000Three weeks after the first bombings, I believe, but then there was the second failed attempt.
01:47:41.000So the state of panic was still quite high, even though Londoners basically were apathetic to the attack.
01:47:50.000They just got on with their lives, they weren't really buying the government propaganda on it, and in fact the government only had a small window of opportunity to exploit that attack because it soon lost its steam.
01:48:03.000But what I noticed with the police going back, before I flew over to Texas, I went to London to stay the night, um, the armed police have been removed from the, uh, train stations, the one at King's Cross, which I passed through, so basically that fad's over, now the government have lost all steam in exploiting it, the attack, they've removed the, um, police state.
01:48:25.000So it's kind of settled down a little bit.
01:48:28.000Tony Blair obviously got defeated in the Commons right after the attack.
01:48:33.000He was banning free speech in certain areas around London Parliament Square, trying to get those laws through.
01:48:38.000So the government had a very small window of opportunity.
01:48:41.000Attempted to exploit the bombings failed overwhelmingly in my view and it makes it a little bit more dangerous that it could happen again.
01:48:50.000Now it's come out that they caught MI six connected SAS, Special Air Services, dressed up like Arabs running around with plastic explosives in Basra, shooting Iraqi police and we've caught Israelis doing the same things with these shooting Iraqi police and we've caught Israelis doing the same things with these fake beards dressed Comments on that?
01:49:12.000Yeah, you've got fake beards, you've got fake Muslim garb and you're driving around shooting at police.
01:49:22.000The reports about bombs in the car were kind of amorphous, but it does seem to make sense.
01:49:27.000Iran's saying that US and UK forces are behind a lot of these bombings, so the evidence is tending in that direction.
01:49:34.000I want to get your take on that when we get back, Steve, and talk a little bit about London.
01:49:39.000And some of the attitudes there, I would challenge some of the British people with real issues and they would just say, you've got a little bit of grass on your pants.
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01:53:15.000Can you speak about the staging of the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964?
01:53:21.000Well, yeah, I mean, the latest thing we've got coming out is this, uh, GOP memo which states that terror attacks would be helpful.
01:53:29.000Um, before that we had the Project Northwoods documents.
01:53:32.000I mean, these things, these things keep coming out and we keep covering them.
01:53:36.000They're the same thing over and over again.
01:53:38.000Saying that staged terror is a possibility, uh, to be undertaken to forward their own agenda to gain centralization of power and more control.
01:53:49.000And these things come up again and again, and it's always the same figures that are involved.
01:53:53.000It goes straight to the top of the government.
01:53:56.000Going back to London, Tony Blair is only accelerating the level of legal and illegal immigrants that come in.
01:54:01.000They're given welfare, they're left alone, and it's selectively enforced.
01:54:06.000But then at the same time, they're saying, brace for terror attack any minute.
01:54:11.000Yeah, well the situation in London I think now has died down slightly because Tony Blair is now seen as a sort of lame duck Prime Minister in that he's possibly going to be out of there in a couple of months.
01:54:24.000But yeah, I mean, the issue of immigration was brought up a lot during the run-up to the general election.
01:54:32.000The Conservative Party basically took the stance of We need to cut down a lot on immigration, even legal immigration, because there's just too many coming in.
01:54:43.000Tony Blair took the stance of, well we have to look carefully at this and we have to analyse how many people are coming in.
01:54:53.000But, I mean, basically it's a non-issue between the two parties and the general election basically petered out and they both converged into saying basically the same thing about immigration.
01:55:04.000So they go, OK, we're hearing you in public, but then they just continue the old policy of letting all the illegals in.
01:55:09.000Yeah, I mean, it's almost as if the Tory party were playing off what Blair was saying and it all converged into one sort of mishmash.
01:55:18.000Well, it's always been that way, and it's only getting worse.
01:55:21.000Stansfield Turner, who headed up the CIA in the early 1980s, has gone public and said the Vice President is the President for Torture, and he went on to say, I'm embarrassed the United States is a Vice President for Torture.
01:55:34.000Admiral Turner claims the CIA Prisons used for torture are known as black sites.
01:55:41.000Terrorist suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
01:55:45.000They're flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft, which is totally criminal, to countries where they're tortured in secret interrogation sites operating outside any country's jurisdiction.
01:55:56.000And a high-level former Republican, number two at Treasury, editor for the Wall Street Journal, last week, we're about to re-air the interview, said that he's ashamed of this and that you don't get good data from torture, you can't trust a government that tortures, that they're torturing just to get people to then say they're terrorists to create this false image of thousands of terrorists that don't even exist!
01:56:17.000Yeah, um, Robert's made the point that, what is it, nine, only nine at Guantanamo Bay have been charged and none have been convicted.
01:56:24.000We're supposed to believe that there are these terrorist cells running around our back gardens planning things and the evidence just isn't there.
01:56:31.000Same in Uzbekistan with Craig Murray, the British ambassador.
01:56:35.000Um, he went over there to assess whether they were using torture, found convincing evidence that they were, he came back, told the British Government, they said, we don't care, we're still going to use the information anyway.
01:56:45.000And in that country they were, in effect, creating the myth that these Al-Qaeda groups existed, because all the people were self-implicating themselves under duress of torture, which is what Robert stated.
01:56:55.000But I thought that Joseph Mengele, the Nazi doctor, was bad because he tortured.
01:56:59.000I thought Saddam was bad because he allegedly tortured.
01:57:02.000But now in the supposed prisons where the torture went on, our government has admittedly set up rape rooms.
01:57:08.000Bush says we don't torture, but then they don't need to ban the torture that doesn't exist anyway.
01:58:20.000While we were in London, and this film's upcoming in a few months, while we were there, we had case after case where we'd be out on the street doing interviews with people, and we'd be showing the video cameras, and there were people working right there at the Hard Rock Cafe, and I'm like, look at these cameras!
01:58:45.000He goes, yeah it's kind of Big Brother, but then he engaged in Doublethink right there, he goes, well I don't care, I say they don't exist, and if they don't exist, in my mind they don't exist.
01:58:56.000Steve, Paul, you want to comment on that?
01:58:59.000Well, let me read a quote from Orwell, from 1984.
01:59:03.000Doublethink is an unending series of victories over your own memory, reality, control.
01:59:08.000To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, To hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out knowing them to be completely contradictory and believing in both of them to use logic against logic to repudiate morality while laying claim to it.
01:59:26.000And this is exactly what we saw over and over again in London.
01:59:31.000We basically walked out of the hotel as a massive pole of cameras in front of us.
01:59:36.000So we interviewed the nearest person who happens to be the manager of the Hard Rock Cafe next to it.
01:59:41.000He says, oh, I've never seen them before but You know, they're there to protect us, basically, but I choose to believe that they don't exist.
01:59:50.000But you wrote an article where over and over and over again, what about the woman that said, I'm for torture, it keeps us safe.
01:59:59.000Well, no, she said... Take my freedom for my liberty, yeah.
02:00:02.000Yeah, she said she wanted to give up liberty for freedom.
02:00:07.000Which is just completely contradictory.
02:00:37.000Um, we were talking to her, and Alex asked her if she would sacrifice liberty for security.
02:00:43.000And she came back with, yes, I'll sacrifice liberty for freedom.
02:00:47.000Liberty and freedom are the same thing.
02:00:49.000We then asked her again, to clarify, just in case she made a mistake, and she said the same thing again.
02:00:54.000She was willing to give up liberty for freedom.
02:00:57.000Which is, really, it's a direct double think, because the two things mean the same thing.
02:01:01.000And there were examples after examples of that, weren't there, Paul?
02:01:06.000Yeah, I mean, you've got, you've got a nest of, what, six or seven cameras and people are out there saying they've never noticed them.
02:01:13.000It's like, it's a survival mechanism to deny reality, but at the end of the day, it's not even a survival mechanism, it's quite dangerous.
02:01:22.000Um, we were asking the attitudes of taxi drivers about the bombings, they were all quite ambiguous, they kind of believed the government lied at that point.
02:01:29.000I think it's flipped around now, just a few months later, it's taken a very short amount of time for people to really question what actually happened.
02:01:36.000Especially with the laundry list of evidence that it was an inside job, it was a staged event, which we've got on the website in the London Bombings Archive.
02:01:44.000So the attitudes immediately after were quite guarded and they towed along with the government line.
02:01:51.000But now I think it's flipped round to where people are really questioning the bombings and You know, Blair's approval rating's going down just as Bush's is, so we're starting to see the tide turning again, that typically.
02:02:01.000Well, especially when it turned out a SWAT was this MI6 guy being protected, and he's the supposed master of the bombers.
02:02:09.000Yeah, and then the bomb site evidence.
02:02:10.000You've got two separate credible people at two separate incident sites saying the bombs came up from below the train.
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02:06:12.000I'm sorry that we didn't get to any of your calls for the last guest, Dr. Stephen E. Jones, but he just kept bringing up so many important points that we were unable to.
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02:07:14.000And it was right when I opened the show with the day, this open acceptance of torture and the schizophrenia of what they're doing, putting people in prison.
02:07:23.000But then the White House says that we're going to veto laws barring torture.
02:07:27.000And Gonzales writes memos saying we can torture people to death if we don't call it torture.
02:07:32.000But none of them get impeached or go to prison.
02:07:35.000And then we found out about all these secret gulags that we reported on three years ago.
02:07:40.000This is nothing new, nothing secret about them.
02:07:45.000Admittedly, it was in the Washington Post in early 2002.
02:07:47.000They had the CIA section chief bragging that, oh yeah, we pressure them and torture them in different countries, Jordan and in Egypt, and it said we even do stuff for their kids in front of them.
02:08:00.000Never forget that in the Washington Post.
02:08:02.000I put that in my film, The Road to Tyranny, three years ago.
02:08:05.000They say they do stuff for their children in front of them.
02:08:51.000I mean, this is just unbelievable, but I've said enough.
02:08:54.000He's here to talk about that, talk about the police state, all the setups for martial law we see taking place, and he's got real conservative credentials, and he's Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
02:09:04.000Thank you for coming on with us today, sir.
02:09:08.000What do you think of the statements I just made about how we're against torture, but we're going to ban the Senate, we're going to veto the Senate saying you can't torture, and Gonzales says we can kill people, but that isn't torture, because we just changed the name, and yeah, we got secret camps, so what?
02:09:22.000I think that the United States government is in the hands of psychopaths.
02:09:27.000I mean, these are insane, dangerous people.
02:10:39.000So the real question is, why do they want to torture people when it doesn't produce good information?
02:10:47.000Could it possibly be that they need a whole bunch of terrorists who implicate themselves so they can prove there actually is a terrorist threat?
02:10:59.000So they go round up... See, another thing, Alex, they know.
02:11:02.000Our army knows, our government knows, the CIA knows, all these people they have in detention The likelihood of any of them being a terrorist is extremely low.
02:11:15.000Most of these people, Alex, were rounded up in the equivalent of KGB, Stalin-era street sweeps.
02:11:22.000They just happened to be there when troops came along and grabbed them.
02:11:26.000Many of them, and it's been in the news, they have lawyers, many of them were people captured In Pakistan by Pakistani gangsters.
02:11:39.000And sold to the Americans as terrorists.
02:11:42.000Well actually what the army admitted and the head CIA officer in Afghanistan for two years said is that they would get between five and twenty five thousand dollars per man woman or child and they would just go into little mountain villages of people that never had left their village who didn't even know where America was on a map.
02:12:01.000This is admitted And it was actual Taliban who would actually then come sell these innocent people.
02:12:07.000And the Army's own report said 75 to 90 percent of those were completely innocent of even ever picking up arms against us.
02:12:15.000And they were just children and families that didn't have papers in order.
02:12:18.000Yeah, and Arab businessmen who happened to... Anybody who's not protected were picked up by the warlords and the gangs and sold to the dumb shit Americans.
02:12:31.000And so the people who are in these prisons are totally innocent people.
02:12:36.000I bet you they haven't got five terrorists in the whole bunch.
02:13:10.000I mean, you know, it's worse than the Waffen SS, if you want to know the truth.
02:13:16.000All this stuff about support the troops, support the troops, it doesn't make any sense.
02:13:21.000Look, there's something in the Guardian yesterday, and they call it a name that lives in infamy.
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02:13:42.000And of course, we're the name that lives in infamy.
02:13:47.000So, you know, we are becoming the most hated nation on the face of the earth.
02:13:55.000Well, I had Wayne Madison, who was, as you know, a NSA analyst, and he said working for Reagan back in the Back in the 80s, as you did, he said if they saw this type of stuff, if they saw an administration doing this in the 80s, they would have thought it's a fifth column, it's communist, they're doing this to make America look bad, they're doing this to bring America down, they're doing this to destroy all of our international connections.
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02:14:33.000Well, I think it's the insane neoconservatives.
02:14:50.000They have to produce the image of massive numbers of terrorists to keep Enough Americans on their side who are fearful, and oh, the terrorists are going to get us.
02:15:02.000See, they've got 750 terrorists at Guantanamo.
02:15:06.000They haven't got seven terrorists at Guantanamo.
02:15:10.000Why do you need to hold terrorists for three years without bringing charges?
02:15:15.000If you know they're terrorists, it's very easy to bring charges.
02:15:37.000If we know they're terrorists, why do we have to hold them for four years?
02:15:43.000Well, how come we don't listen when the lawyers representing their families say, you've got my husband and my father and he's a Saudi businessman and he was captured in Pakistan and sold to you guys?
02:15:57.000And then the army interrogators even go, look, these people are totally innocent and they get told, keep them.
02:17:11.000Well, that may well be what they have in mind, but they certainly aren't Achieving any goal in Iraq except more casualties for Americans by making them hate us ever more.
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02:22:16.000But right before the Gulf War, in late 2002, they got a $6 billion federal program, a secret program funded, it was in UPI and the AP and a few other places, called P2OG.
02:22:28.000And I don't know if Dr. Roberts is aware of this, But MP2OG, they said, we're going to kill people's family members.
02:22:36.000We're going to stimulate an attack in the Middle East, widen it, and then we can go into Iran and Syria and other areas.
02:22:42.000So, the plan is, you know, when they tell our troops to go in and you get shot at in a village, arrest every man down to age 11, bulldoze all their date palms, all their tangerine orchards, that is meant to generate, because do the corporations make more money if we're in Iraq a year and fix the problems and leave, or if we're there 10 years, 20 years, Dr. Roberts, does that now make sense to you or do you disagree?
02:23:05.000You know Alex, I don't know what to make of it all.
02:23:11.000I do agree with you that terrible things are going on and they make so little sense that almost any explanation becomes believable.
02:23:21.000But it's not, you know, all I can say about it is that I know that we are committing war crimes.
02:23:28.000We're in violation of the Nuremberg standard that we established when we put the Nazis on trial.
02:23:40.000But anyway, and why are they doing it?
02:23:43.000And why the, you know, there's something wrong with the public and that it sits there like Idiots!
02:23:50.000And that's a bunch of Nazis running wild.
02:23:53.000But let me go back to... Let's talk about... Let's contrast the Senate's vote to restrict detainees' access to the courts with what happened just the other day in the British Parliament.
02:24:11.000Now, in the great United States, we hold ourselves up as this great democracy and liberty and freedom and liberty and freedom.
02:24:21.000The Senate yesterday endorsed a plan, I'm reading from the Washington Post today, that would overturn the landmark Supreme Court ruling last year that permitted many of the detainees held at Guantanamo Bay To challenge their detention.
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02:25:30.000And no doubt Bush will describe this as a great victory for freedom and democracy and liberty and blah blah blah.
02:25:37.000Now what happened in England at the same time, on Wednesday, what happened the day before?
02:25:44.000Bush's pimp over there, Blair, Tony Blair, somebody who is as despicable as Bush, he said, oh look, we want rights to hold the detainees for 90 days.
02:26:01.000Now look, Bush wants to hold them indefinitely, forever.
02:26:06.000And the British Prime Minister says, we only want to hold them for 90 days.
02:26:11.000And the Parliament said, to hell with you, Buster, you can't do it.
02:26:48.000There's nothing conservative about the Bush administration.
02:26:50.000Exactly, but that's what I'm saying is that none of us are safe, and the heart of America is that Bill of Rights, that Constitution, habeas corpus, that's why we're America, and they're taking all that away!
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02:30:52.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:30:54.000All right, coming up in about 10 minutes or so, we'll take a few calls in there specifically for Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and any of the police state issues we're discussing.
02:32:36.000I mean, they're not even conservatives anymore.
02:32:38.000They are literally Bush worshippers, Brown Shirt says, I know you've called them, I want to get into more on the torture, more on the police state being set up here domestically, but when you talk to your old conservative friends and they're still worshipping Bush, what do you say to them?
02:33:36.000I don't know if you, you may have already covered this Alex, but yesterday in the publication Capitol Hill Blue, it reports a confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders, suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S.
02:33:52.000soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George Bush, as well as the sagging fortunes of the GOP.
02:34:00.000You know, we got wiped out in the election the other day.
02:34:04.000And restore Bush's image as a leader of the American people.
02:34:07.000This is a closely guarded memo and it lays out a list of scenarios, another terrorist attack on the U.S.
02:34:15.000in order to bring the Republican Party back from the political brink.
02:34:20.000So there it shows you the way these so-called Republicans think.
02:34:26.000I'd like to say, too, these are nothing like the Republicans I work with.
02:34:30.000They're nothing like the Republicans in the Bush administration.
02:34:33.000I don't know who these people are or where they came from.
02:34:36.000It's almost like they came from out of Doctor, are you still there?
02:35:44.000What's the headline you have in front of you?
02:35:46.000GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline.
02:35:53.000Well, that's a smoking gun right there!
02:35:56.000Well, it doesn't say they themselves were gonna... No, I know, but it shows them openly talking about it.
02:36:01.000I mean, this is just... Boy, that would be helpful!
02:36:04.000Yeah, well, it may not work because it may simply prove that despite everything we're not safer.
02:36:12.000So it's hard to know whether they're But whether their idea would work or not, people may simply say, well look, you took away all the rights, we went to war, you said all this and all that, and we're not safer.
02:36:32.000They had a big study, what, a year ago.
02:36:34.000The White House paid for a study, I'm sure you heard about that, to see what our response would be to another terror attack.
02:36:41.000And they found a narrow majority at that time, now they've eroded even more, would support more of their police state policies if there was.
02:36:48.000See, I don't think people trust the President any longer.
02:37:16.000Look, Alex, when I was doing Russian studies, I learned that the Czarist secret police used to conduct bombings so they could blame somebody they wanted to get and arrest them.
02:37:32.000Yeah, that was the white Russian's favorite trick and then of course the Commissariat learned that and they passed it on.
02:37:38.000Yeah, so, you know, the kinds of black job operations that governments do are notorious.
02:37:49.000But, let's, uh, can we talk a little bit about the economy?
02:38:08.000Look, are you aware that President George Bush has now borrowed more money from foreign governments and foreign banks than every previous U.S.
02:38:55.000Well, that's why a lot of experts are saying it looks like they're actually trying to bring America down.
02:39:01.000Well, it certainly has given Asians tremendous power over us, because they hold enough of They've got treasury bonds now that just the threat to dump them would send our interest rates skyrocketing.
02:39:17.000Well, the CFR openly laughs at America.
02:41:34.000Now, so what does it mean if the layoff rate is twice the rate of new jobs?
02:41:44.000It's not a very promising It's not a very promising outlook.
02:41:49.000Can I bring up another economic indice, and that's energy.
02:41:54.000We have the oil companies own memos, starting back nine years ago, where they said we're going to buy up all the small, and I mean all, refineries, shut them down, restrict and cut back ours.
02:42:03.000Then I watch it and then rip people off, create an artificial bottleneck, griping about Saddam over pumping, griping about Venezuela, because there's too much oil, they want to restrict it.
02:42:13.000I don't think the oil companies, the American oil companies don't own much oil anymore.
02:42:15.000says oh no we've built more refineries which is a total line and then they question the more as well we have it listen listen I don't I don't think the oil companies the American oil companies don't own much oil anymore they're mainly just retailers of gasoline and and they're actually even going out of You can't build a refinery in the United States because of all the environmental stuff.
02:42:40.000No, I understand, but that's how this whole thing has been set up.
02:42:43.000So my question is, where is it going with the energy prices being so high?
02:42:53.000Or where is it going with all prices going to be so high?
02:44:29.000That people are so fixated on energy for, because, as I just pointed out... Well, it's something they can actually feel on a day-to-day basis.
02:45:43.000I think it's just short-run stupidity by itself on the part of corporations.
02:45:49.000They say, oh, we can get foreigners cheaper, but then they have to wonder what happens to the American market.
02:45:55.000If they destroy the American consumer market because they give all the good jobs abroad, who's going to buy the stuff here?
02:46:02.000Well, Dr. Roberts, the globalist in many different official UN reports and others have said this internationalism is about global corporations being more powerful than any country, and they want us all interdependent.
02:46:13.000They don't want a strong nation-state.
02:46:37.000It's three month quarterly reporting where everyone focuses on what's the three months results.
02:46:45.000And oh well, we laid off another 10,000 people and hired Indians in their place and our profits went up and we get bigger bonuses.
02:46:53.000And that's as good an explanation as any.
02:46:56.000It doesn't imply some kind of But why would there be federal programs to pay U.S.
02:47:02.000companies to move overseas and then ensure the investment if it fails?
02:47:08.000A lot of those things date from the Cold War, where one of our strategies to contain communism was to develop the vulnerable Countries, the ones that were poor and poverty-stricken and seem to be... Yeah, prop them up.
02:47:26.000So these things last long beyond... It's the Cold War is over, but the program system is still there.
02:47:37.000So what is the... I mean, even the short-term prognosis, what do you think is going to happen?
02:47:42.000Do you think the neocons will fall, or will they just keep rolling on?
02:47:45.000You know, they're talking about going into Syria right now.
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02:52:25.000Lou, if you want to hold even more, God bless you.
02:52:28.000Dr. Roberts, we've just got about three minutes now and about five minutes to the next hour, but just in a nutshell before I go to these calls, and I'm going to go right to them.
02:52:35.000We've got the new Fed chairman coming in.
02:52:37.000We've got him saying, I'll print even more money.
02:53:45.000Okay, to address a few things relative, of course, to what the doctor has been driving at.
02:53:51.000Today it was actually reported in New York Newsday that the police commissioner of New York City has gone into a memorandum of understanding with the Central Intelligence Agency.
02:54:02.000We have a local, it has to be emphasized, local enforcement agency.
02:54:07.000They're setting up local commissariats.
02:54:09.000And in fact, he has retained, and it seems to be a very favorite place for people who retire from the CIA to come and get a job in retirement, the NYPD.
02:54:19.000So we definitely got strange going on here.
02:54:21.000A few other things that have struck me very odd over the last several weeks, and they follow this way.
02:54:27.000I begin to strongly suspect events in the world, case in point, The explosions in Jordan.
02:54:35.000Now, if anybody knows Muslim culture or Arabic culture, they would know that attacking a wedding is an extremely taboo thing to do in that culture, if you're not aware of that.
02:55:00.000My point is, why would a leader looking for empathy in the Arab world do something like that?
02:55:05.000I think he has a very good point, Alex.
02:55:09.000He has a very good point, and I saw the Israeli newspaper Haaretz initially said that all the Israelis in those hotels had been given prior warning and were pulled out.
02:55:21.000And it's confirmed that Netanyahu got a warning on 7-7.
02:55:54.000Write the memo that says torture people, and then they say they're for torture, but then they send people who follow their orders to prison?
02:56:00.000It looks like Americans just don't care.