Alex Jones sits down with Ron Paul to discuss the Iraq War, torture, the Patriot Act, and the ongoing problems of the economy. Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican Congressman from Texas who is running for re-election in 2016.
00:00:27.000For the next 20 minutes, we're honored to have Congressman Ron Paul on with us.
00:00:31.000I've got my questions for him about the Iraq War, when are we getting out of there, all this new torture information coming out, Rumsfeld saying he didn't advocate for the war.
00:00:42.000I also want to get into the Patriot Act and just the unfolding problems of the economy we're seeing with Dr. Ron Paul, the Congressman from right here in Texas.
00:00:53.000And then I've got three or four questions that listeners called in last hour that they wanted to address the Congressman, so we'll ask him those questions as well.
00:01:00.000Congressman, thank you for joining us.
00:01:03.000What do you think is most important right now?
00:01:04.000I mean, what do you want to talk about, sir?
00:01:08.000You know, in the scheme of things, I would say the ongoing war is probably the most important because it has concerns about our finances as well as the excuse for an intrusion on our personal liberties here at home.
00:01:22.000Plus the fact that this war is different than any others because it was a preemptive strike.
00:01:52.000I mean, how long is this going to go on?
00:01:53.000Now they're talking about how they want to go into Iran and Syria like it's a Ponzi scheme or something, where they're just going to endlessly expand it from one crisis to the next so we can never get our balance.
00:02:05.000I'm afraid that is the case because the other day we had a resolution that we were debating on international relations and it was sort of a blame, who gets the blame for it?
00:02:16.000And my comments were that uh... the majority on both sides still support the war the majority supports expanding the war and this pretends that all of a sudden That you want to blame somebody and embarrass somebody is sort of distracting from the real issue of why are we agitating and doing the same thing to Syria and Iran that we did to Iraq.
00:02:39.000Well, I've said that to Democrats, Congressman Ron Paul.
00:02:41.000I mean, I've said, well, if George Bush is so evil and his policy is so bad, which, I mean, obviously it is, why were Democrats some of the biggest beaters of the war drum?
00:02:52.000Because, you know, there are two things going on.
00:02:54.000There's a struggle for power, which is ongoing, and that's between, and these are legitimate fights.
00:04:01.000But unfortunately, The media, as well as the leadership in Congress, have been co-opted by the establishment, and the establishment is what's been beating up on the people here for a good many years.
00:04:28.000In fact, I want to talk about the economy as well as the war, Congressman, and then I'd like to hear from you with your expertise on what you think legislatively is most important right now when we get back.
00:04:42.000And I also want to get your take on a free speech ban in Crawford.
00:04:46.000They arrested over 12 people this morning for peacefully sitting in the ditch.
00:04:52.000So I want to talk about the State of the Bill of Rights as well when we get back.
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00:08:32.000The very same crowd that lied to us Well, it doesn't look good, and usually it ends when either it financially fails or the people rise up against it.
00:08:40.000death rays with EMPs and are going to kill us any minute and we're going to be in the stone age.
00:08:46.000I mean, they're coming out with even more science fiction-esque baloney, Al, sir.
00:08:50.000Well, it doesn't look good, and usually it ends when either it financially fails or the people rise up against it.
00:09:00.000And I think we saw the end of the Soviet system for those two reasons.
00:09:05.000It finally couldn't support itself, and the people just rebelled and didn't cooperate, and it just faded away.
00:09:14.000Unfortunately, we're not quite at that stage, and there's a lot of power, and a lot of weaponry, and a lot of determination for the establishment to maintain order.
00:09:23.000So, they're going in the other direction.
00:09:26.000They're putting their back up to the wall, and they're saying, look, if need be, we're going to have martial law.
00:09:32.000We've heard all these statements by the By the President and the Administration, why they need more militarism at the federal government to keep people in check.
00:09:39.000So, nobody knows how this will turn out, but I do know that the only thing that we can do about it is try to alert the American people to what's going on so they can be prepared and put the pressure On the proper people to bring about changes in a peaceful manner rather than waiting for violence to break out.
00:09:58.000We're also seeing all the other tell-tale signs and ingredients of tyranny.
00:10:02.000Where in Crawford, Texas, twelve peaceful people sit in a ditch and they pass a law tailored saying, no, there's no protesting on the side of the roads, on hundreds of miles of road.
00:10:13.000I mean, literally one car goes by every five minutes.
00:10:15.000If you don't have free speech on the side of the road, then we don't have a free country.
00:10:21.000No, and administrations or governments don't like to be embarrassed, so if we're at the point where the people are being informed and they want to speak out and express themselves, and it embarrasses the government officials, then they do crack down.
00:10:35.000I mean, the extreme of this is, of course, the story that came out in the last day or two, that there were plans for our government to bomb Al Jazeera, because Well, as a matter of fact, I think we did attack at one time at the outbreak of the war, but they were about ready to bomb again.
00:10:53.000And ironically, I think the British said, well, maybe that's too extreme.
00:11:09.000And that's part of the reason why they usually fail, too, is they get overly bold.
00:11:13.000And I think Our government is overly bold that they're invincible and they feel invincible with their finances.
00:11:21.000They control, our government controls the reserve currency of the world.
00:11:26.000They literally have the ability to print gold.
00:11:29.000I mean, the world government... Isn't that starting to slide with China going to this basket of currencies and Europe with the euro?
00:11:38.000I interviewed Paul Craig Roberts Another prominent conservative leader last week, and he said on air, Dr. Paul, Congressman Paul, he said that Bush, and of course Roberts is an economist, has borrowed more money than all previous presidents combined.
00:11:56.000Yeah, and he's a very bright guy, and I read just about everything he writes, and I think he is right about this, that it is starting to fade, but for the time being, I think our government thinks they're invincible, And that they will have no trouble, even this new Fed chairman says...
00:12:13.000We have the power of the printing press.
00:12:15.000We just print all the money we need, and we can always take care of ourselves and revive the economy.
00:12:20.000In fact, he's even more bullish on heating up the presses than Greenspan.
00:12:24.000That's right, and I think he probably gave anybody who's investing gold, probably gave them a boost in their investments.
00:12:31.000And actually, it's not a boost in investment as confirming the fact that the dollar is not going to remain strong.
00:12:37.000But in the meantime, though, the world's still taking the dollars.
00:12:40.000But you know, if we can notice it getting less so, that people are less anxious, actually, finally at the end it goes quickly.
00:12:50.000Once the confidence is lost, Confidence is weakening now, but when a confidence is lost in the currency, boy, sudden and dramatic and catastrophic changes can occur.
00:13:01.000And since the dollar is so pervasive around the world, I see this as a great potential threat to everyone.
00:13:07.000Any ballpark on when you think you might see the collapse?
00:13:11.000I think that's real hard, and Washington Economics teaches you that you ought not to try to make those predictions because... Do you think it'll be a slow slide or an implosion?
00:13:19.000I think it'll be a slow slide for a while, then an implosion.
00:13:22.000But I think it's capable of doing it right now.
00:13:27.000You know, it could be like a sudden thing like long-term capital management.
00:14:15.000Well, if we continue with our policies, there's no reason in the world why we won't see gold double in time, and if we keep it together and the dollar system works, then you're going to see it triple.
00:14:27.000It's just a matter of time, because we do not slow up the printing presses, and all we can do is speed up the printing presses.
00:14:34.000I mean, just look at what Greenspan did.
00:14:37.000After the last stock market crash, you know, he took interest rates down to, you know, in real terms, down to zero.
00:14:43.000Congressman, we've got about six minutes left.
00:14:47.000Of course, as a medical doctor, I know you're aware of the AIDS testing on orphans and testing on kids that don't even have HIV and the testing of chemicals.
00:14:56.000And of course you fought the New Freedom Initiative for forced psychological testing and drugging under federal control.
00:15:02.000Now there's an EPA rule change alert out.
00:15:07.000And earlier in the break I read to you some of the subsections where they're talking about if the government has a foster child or mentally ill child or a disabled child that there is... because they've been getting criticized for this, now they're just going to pass a rule change saying they can test anything they want on kids.
00:15:25.000I mean, it's getting so, so Twilight Zone, sir.
00:15:28.000There's no doubt about it, and you know, I really thought that mental health testing and drugging was so evil and horrible, but this, I think, could even be a little bit worse when they talk about testing these kind of chemicals.
00:15:41.000But that's just confirmation once again that we as a country have been careless and we've allowed our government to act as parents for the children, and in spite of the shortcomings of some parents, parents always do a much, much better job.
00:15:57.000If there is a danger to a child and you have to deal with that imminent danger, It should be very, very local.
00:16:03.000It should be churches and different things taken care of.
00:16:05.000Well, even Time Magazine had a cover story three years ago that you're five times more likely to be abused or hurt in government custody.
00:16:12.000It's the most dangerous place for a child.
00:16:15.000Yeah, and yet, you know, those individuals who vote for that in Washington, I'm not willing to say that they're all part of a conspiracy and evil and monstrous.
00:16:25.000Some of them are just bleeding hearts and say, oh, I heard this story and da-da-da.
00:16:30.000We have to help them, we have to take care of them.
00:16:33.000Then they never follow up to find out what the results are.
00:16:35.000You know, the results are so horrible, you'd think maybe a little bit of logic would convince them to rethink their position, but it doesn't seem to happen.
00:16:46.000Every year you introduce legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve, to get us out of the United Nations, and every year you get more co-sponsors.
00:17:04.000Unfortunately, they sort of co-opted my position.
00:17:07.000The Bush administration started bashing the UN and threatening the UN with cutting some of the funding, but it was all a game they were playing because they literally gave the UN more power.
00:17:36.000And he's over there and actually what they've done is they've taken the neocon position on intervening on the internal affairs of other nations and Regime change, and they've institutionalized that in the United Nations.
00:17:47.000Technically, the United Nations said they only dealt with border disputes, but now...
00:18:44.000It's a horrible precedent and it's all part of the NAFTA scheme and globalization and world government.
00:18:51.000Congressman, what have you found is an effective way to reach out to people, to break the eyes of people who aren't aware of what's going on?
00:18:59.000Well, you know, that's a big job, and I think the most important thing is that those of us who promote our position, that we appear credible, and that we are able to defend ourselves, and that we have the facts.
00:19:14.000I don't think the technique that we use is as important as being knowledgeable.
00:19:18.000And then presenting the facts, and then if we are correct and on the right track, I think the people will come to us and say, you know, like today I had somebody who was furious with me for voting against the pharmaceutical drug program two or three years ago, but now they went to apply for it, and they said it was a monster!
00:19:36.000And they came back and said, you know, you were right all along.
00:19:39.000So I think this is the main thing, is to present our case and do it, and if it doesn't look like we're winning at that moment, Later on, somebody's going to pay attention and say, yes, you're right.
00:19:50.000Congressman, have a great Thanksgiving.