On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones is joined by Jordan Maxwell to talk about the Illuminati, the CIA, and the secret society groups that are trying to control our world. He also talks about the latest in the war on terror, and how the Bush administration is trying to create a police state.
00:00:38.000It is Tuesday, the 29th day of November, 2005.
00:00:39.000And we're going to be live for the next three hours.
00:00:41.000and five and we're going to be live for the next three hours Jordan Maxwell will be with us for the second and most of the third hour today talking about the secret societies the Illuminati illumined ones that are controlling our world and the society that they're trying to build You want to talk about the elite?
00:01:07.000You want to talk about the elite families?
00:01:12.000Jordan Maxwell has done a lot of really deep investigation of Babylon, Egyptology, The Illuminati and some of the more modern movements, Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, you name it.
00:01:28.000It'll be riveting, so you don't want to miss it.
00:01:55.000Just wait until you hear what they're going to be doing to you.
00:01:59.000You thought it was bad in Denver where they march onto buses and demand to see everybody's IDs and they don't even really want to look at them.
00:02:18.000As soon as this came out last night in the Associated Press, he had written an article in about 20 minutes and got it up even before Drudge did.
00:02:27.000New home sales hit record level in October.
00:02:30.000They're saying this could be the last hurrah before the bust.
00:02:34.000And that gold has now surged above $500 an ounce, platinum smashing through the psychological barrier of $1,000 per ounce.
00:02:50.000You talk about massive Orwellian spin.
00:03:04.000Last night I watched a little bit of TV before I went on there with Rents to do his show, Jeff Rents.
00:03:13.000And last, yesterday evening I was listening to talk radio driving around in the car and I heard Neocons going, the Liberals are trying to stop Bush right now but he's a real conservative.
00:03:23.000He's going to fight through them and do something about immigration.
00:03:27.000He's going to be traveling around the Southwest dealing with it.
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00:08:08.000The official federal plan, four years ago, just weeks after 9-11,
00:08:31.000...was to literally train you, they even openly talked about this in policy papers, to openly train you to accept the surveillance, line up and show your papers, shut up, you're in the Reich now type system.
00:08:46.000You're in the New World Order now, boy, shut up, and you didn't ask to join, you're a slave.
00:08:53.000And the government talked about how they were going to do it on trains, buses, bridges, highways.
00:09:00.000They're going to build hardened checkpoints into the roads.
00:09:04.000They're just going to randomly shut down highways and do it.
00:09:07.000And they admit that, quote, while we're looking for terrorists, we'll also look for drugs, guns, and other paraphernalia.
00:09:15.000Mixing the word guns in with drugs and other paraphernalia.
00:09:21.000And all over the nation, they have begun to do this, whether it's in Miami, or in San Francisco, or in New York, or Detroit, or Chicago, and it has nothing to do with security.
00:09:37.000Well, there is a new flagrant article that just goes over the top that we'll be covering here in a few minutes.
00:09:48.000Miami Police take new attack against terror or a new direction against terror and then Paul Watson did write the article American Police State the Frog is Cooked.
00:09:59.000I want to cover those and then get into some of the economic indices and then get into the latest abomination.
00:10:06.000Bush is back after a year and it was hailed by neocons as he's really getting tough on immigration and it is total complete legalization.
00:10:43.000It had been a long five-year battle, but we'll talk a little bit about her as well today.
00:10:49.000Before I get into all the news, though, before I forget in this first hour, because Jordan Maxwell, to expose the power behind the throne, the globalist, is joining us in the second and third hours.
00:11:01.000Today we'll have open phones for that.
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00:18:12.000The images on Miami television, because I went online and watched some clips, are of police in black helmets, black Darth Vader outfits, black masks in some cases, surrounding people.
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00:19:02.000The illegals are totally being legalized.
00:19:05.000Again, all of this has nothing to do with keeping you safe.
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00:24:20.000Alright, let me just read the AP article and then comment on it.
00:24:23.000Miami police take new tack against terror.
00:24:29.000Miami Police announced Monday they will stage random shows of force at hotels, banks, and other public places, and they did yesterday, to keep terrorists guessing and remind people, you see there's the truth, to be vigilant.
00:24:44.000That means to grovel and lick boots of men in Darth Vader outfits.
00:24:49.000Deputy Police Chief Frank Fernandez, the Miami Police folks, You cannot get any more corrupt.
00:24:56.000Said officers might, for example, surround a bank building, check the IDs of everyone going in and out, and hand out leaflets about terror threats.
00:25:04.000So just secret police scurrying around and cattle on your neighbors.
00:25:09.000I've got articles here, folks, where SecureCorps and all these Homeland Security groups have got the Neighborhood Watch, you name it.
00:25:16.000The Army comes in, sets them up, and then, well, there's no real terrorists to fight, so your neighbors fighting with each other.
00:25:31.000This is an in-your-face type of strategy.
00:25:34.000It's letting the terrorists know we are out there.
00:25:36.000Fernandez said, oh yes, this will really stop the terrorists.
00:25:39.000I mean, when you've got real terrorists, real people, occasionally in the Middle East attacking installations, they will go find the police.
00:26:04.000Continuing, Police Chief John Kimmeley said there was no specific credible threat of an imminent terror attack in Miami, but he said the city had repeatedly been mentioned in intelligence reports as a potential target.
00:26:20.000The operations will keep the terrorists off guard, Prentice said.
00:26:23.000He said Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups plot attacks by putting places under surveillance and watching for flaws and patterns in security.
00:26:30.000Timothy also noted that 14 of the 19 hijackers that took part in 9-11 attacks lived in South Florida.
00:26:38.000But uniformed and plainclothes police will ride buses and trains while others will conduct longer-term surveillance operations.
00:26:44.000Yeah, political dissidents and media people.
00:27:22.000Folks, can you imagine going to your family into a bank, going into a shopping mall, and there's police in riot gear demanding to see your IDs?
00:28:09.000This would be the equivalent of somewhere in the United States there is a person driving a red Volkswagen bus and we think he might be planning to car bomb or he might be planning to rob a bank and so the police randomly
00:28:32.000Paratrooper out over Albuquerque, New Mexico, and surround a shopping mall, or a power plant, or a bowling alley, and then search everyone and check their IDs.
00:28:46.000And the loyal opposition, totally controlled, totally government ops, meant to lose cases, meant to create bad case law, meant to say there's rights there that don't exist, and then meant to attack rights that do exist.
00:28:57.000The ACLU saying, oh, as long as it's random, it's totally fine.
00:29:04.000See, they call probable cause profiling, whereas classical profiling is not total probable cause, but it's a lot closer, folks, than just randomly, I'm allowed, the Texas Supreme Court says I'm allowed to pull over every third car, because it's random.
00:29:23.000I mean, it's just, but again, the public's so dumb, they don't even, again, know where Iraq is on a map, or what their state capital is on average, or most high school seniors don't know who the vice president is, so they'll just tell them all these lies and they'll believe it!
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00:34:39.000I mean, every day I read about drills.
00:34:42.000They've had drills in Seattle where there's five buses they blow up, and helicopters firing flares, and black smoke, and half the city shut down, and people freaking out, and they put the images on CNN, and all the studies show you then associate that as real.
00:35:00.000And all over the country, I've been to these.
00:35:02.000They have drills and live fire and then they'll rent a building covertly and blow it up and terrorize the public and then say, oh it's just special forces, it's just for your own good.
00:35:43.000The Marines take over Hobbs Middle School, and it was in the paper, it said, Bill Clinton wants you to quote, know what martial law is like.
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00:35:55.000Get the children and said, Bill Clinton wants you to know what martial law is like.
00:36:48.000I don't want my family, my children, my future grandchildren growing up in a third world cesspit.
00:36:55.000Folks, they don't even do random searches like this in some of the worst third world countries out there.
00:37:00.000I mean, this is, on the end of the scale, this is way off the edge.
00:37:07.000And they've got a degenerate head of the International Association of Chiefs of Police.
00:37:12.000You know, most cops, a lot of them really are good.
00:37:14.000They had a national poll, what, two years ago?
00:37:19.000A big study, and 98% of police don't believe in gun control, believe in the Second Amendment.
00:37:24.000Well, that's cops that actually live in the real world, but over 90% of chiefs of police do.
00:37:29.000Because, again, they're a bunch of political whores.
00:37:32.000Mary Ann Veveret, president of the International Association of Police, said the Miami program is similar to those used for years during a holiday season.
00:38:21.000I mean, these cops are just... cops better not.
00:38:25.000Come up to, you know, surround where I'm at and then just, let me see your ID!
00:38:31.000I'm the King Ape around here, just don't cry, okay?
00:38:34.000I mean, I'm getting really sick of it.
00:38:37.000Make me see if this even does anything again.
00:38:39.000It's like if they have an APB out for a white Volkswagen Beetle.
00:38:45.000And instead of having cops look for the license plate number and go off probable cause, which you'll have probable cause, there's an APB out for it.
00:39:22.000It's only use is to train you to have this system-wide in America everywhere.
00:39:30.000Well, the FBI called for, quote, remember last year?
00:39:33.000Well, we think terrorists might attack shopping malls.
00:39:35.000We want you to be searched and scanned and put your stuff through a x-ray machine to get into the mall.
00:39:43.000Let's just say there were real terrorists, folks, outside of the CIA, and Mossad, and Shembet, and MI6, and a few other groups, and FSB, KGB.
00:41:12.000Ignorance of something, ignorance of the law, committing a crime through ignorance or because you're brainwashed doesn't mean that you get to go scot-free.
00:41:21.000Doesn't mean that what you're doing isn't wrong.
00:41:25.000So don't tell me about the law, and don't shoot your mouth off about, you know, and play games anymore.
00:42:49.000You let the frog sit in the warm water and slowly heat the pan until the frog boils to death.
00:42:54.000How do you erect the infrastructure of a police state?
00:42:58.000You incrementally condition both the police and the public that relinquishing liberty in the name of security is necessary because we live in dangerous times.
00:43:06.000Be sure to make Grandpa remove his shoes at the airport but let the car go through without inspection every time.
00:43:13.000The truth is that the mythical war on terror was never meant to be won and can never be won because it doesn't exist.
00:43:20.000The terror, the real terror, is being waged against ordinary people by our own government.
00:43:29.000Perception has clearly and permanently shifted from the police being there to serve the people to the police being there to control and corral and order the people around.
00:43:38.000And it goes into what the Associated Press reports today about what's happening in Miami.
00:43:47.000And it just goes into what's happening It's a long article.
00:45:14.000For six years, and it's automatically reauthorized if it's not shot down to that point, anyone who's here, if you can get here, you instantly become legal.
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00:45:47.000Actual jets landing daily, and ships docking daily, disgorging third world slaves, or slaves for Rome, to drive the wages down even further.
00:45:58.000I mean, now the new illegal aliens are displacing the old illegal aliens that want five bucks an hour.
00:46:02.000The new will work for two bucks an hour and sleep ten to a room.
00:46:29.000USA Radio Network News, Fox News, you know, locally here on the radio, listening to the feeds, and news out of San Antonio, and I'm flipping channels, it's the same thing.
00:46:40.000George Bush is, well finally he's getting tough!
00:46:43.000We've got to do something about this immigration, get behind his plan.
00:46:51.000Bush talks tough on immigration, oh he's going to get criticized by immigrant groups, They'll put on a little shell act and, like, Bush out there and, oh well, the liberal groups are attacking Bush on the bill they wrote!
00:47:05.000See how they just play that theater off?
00:47:07.000We just take it hook, line, and sinker!
00:47:30.000Again, so many people associate their whole worldview with Bill Clinton, or Hillary Clinton, or George Bush, and they act like there's some fight going on between them.
00:47:38.000And these people are government CIA operatives.
00:47:58.000Frankly, I've said this on air before.
00:48:00.000I'd still fight the corruption, but I wouldn't be so worried about it if I didn't know they were totally psychopathic.
00:48:04.000I mean, you expect some corruption, some problems, but I mean, this elite is just trying to actually bring society down because they're threatened by you being middle class and educated and happy.
00:48:15.000They actually want you to be impoverished and stupid.
00:48:37.000And I'm tired of police and other people.
00:48:41.000Being ignorant of this, and bureaucrats, and people in government, and city managers, and all of you, going along, making excuses, being compartmentalized.
00:48:50.000But just don't insult my intelligence with this.
00:48:52.000And you know the good news is CNN had a poll right after this big hour-long TV show supporting Bozsian saying how great it was.
00:50:09.000I used that comparison last week, and that's what it is.
00:50:13.000Imagine, you're two air marshals on a jet.
00:50:16.000Somebody hijacks it, he goes into the cockpit, changes into the clothes, and then he releases the pilots and just tells the air marshals, you can keep your guns, I'm now the captain.
00:50:27.000And they all go, okay, yes, you're the captain, you're wearing the uniform.
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00:55:14.000I guess there won't be any more illegal aliens because they're just going to legalize them all.
00:55:18.000And what they're telling the good old boys in Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and California, they're telling the cops and the corrections people, don't worry, we're about to have a big crime sweep on the illegals and every county is getting $700,000 from ICE, the new federal agency, to start arresting illegal aliens But that's illegal aliens, people that have actual fake IDs if they happen to catch you.
00:55:42.000And they're going to charge them and put them in one of these private prisons building widgets, so we'll just compete against the illegal aliens in the prisons, where they get 20 cents an hour instead of five dollars an hour, so it'll be even worse.
00:55:53.000But anyone who's, quote, undocumented, if you just don't have IDs, you're just going to be left alone.
00:56:01.000That is the big... And they're going to have a raid here of a Walmart, a raid of a of a construction site here, a little raid there, a few hundred here, a few hundred there, of the 40 plus million illegal aliens.
00:56:14.000You know, they'll tell you it's 15 million to 20 million.
00:56:17.000No, it's more like 40 million now, conservatively.
00:56:20.000And, uh, that's state numbers put together.
00:56:24.000It's very, very, very, very, very, very serious.
00:56:55.000Well, no, I haven't spent more money than all presidents before me combined.
00:57:00.000I mean, I'm not George Bush, the gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, UN-joining, UNESCO, New World Order individual who said it's a good policy to have a weak dollar.
00:57:11.000I'm not the individual whose whole family is involved in every SNL scam and drug-dealing scam you can imagine.
00:57:38.000Five years after he took office amid much rumbling that he hasn't followed through on his promise to crack down on illegal immigrants, President Bush is now pushing Congress to pass a bill establishing a temporary guest worker program that will help curb the flow of illegal aliens crossing the southern border.
00:57:57.000But one thing his program is not, the president stresses, is the dreaded amnesty.
00:58:04.000And then it is, the word that stops debate about illegal immigration on Capitol Hill.
00:58:09.000There's a lot of options on this proposal.
00:58:11.000I understand Bush said money during a speech in Tucson, Arizona, one of the states at the forefront of the battle.
00:58:18.000But he says we will not be able to effectively enforce our immigration laws until a type of temporary worker program is put in place, he said, which is total legalization.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:13.000Welcome back, folks, into the second hour conversation.
00:59:28.000Jordan Maxwell, expert on the New World Order and the Illuminati power structure, coming up in the next segment.
00:59:34.000We've had a lot of requests for it, so I'm going to roll it now in this segment, and that's Johnny Cash, the man in black, because I identify a lot with what he's saying here.
00:59:42.000Sometimes this show seems gloomy and negative, but it's actually positive to admit what's happening and to stop denying it.
00:59:48.000Our denial is one of the greatest culprits in all of this.
01:00:15.000And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone?
01:00:20.000Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.
01:00:25.000I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down.
01:00:30.000Living in the hopeless, hungry side of town.
01:00:35.000I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime, but is there because he's a victim of the time.
01:00:45.000I wear the black for those who've never read.
01:00:50.000Or listen to the words that Jesus said about the road to happiness through love and charity.
01:01:00.000Why, you'd think he's talking straight to you and me.
01:01:05.000Well, we're doing mighty fine, I do suppose.
01:01:10.000In our streak of lightning, cars and fancy clothes But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back Up front there ought to be a man in black I wear it for the sick and lonely old For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold.
01:01:36.000I wear the blackened mourning for the lives that could have been.
01:01:41.000Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.
01:01:45.000And I wear it for the thousands who have died.
01:01:50.000Believing that the Lord was on their side.
01:01:56.000I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died Believing that we all were on their side Well, there's things that never will be right, I know And things need changing everywhere you go But till we start to make a move to make a few things right
01:02:20.000You'll never see me wear a suit of white Oh, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day And tell the world that everything's okay But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back Till things are brighter, I'm the man in black That's right, Johnny Cash.
01:02:49.000And again, when we get back, we'll talk to Jordan Maxwell, get deeply into who the globalists are, who the elites are, who's controlling us, their symbolism, the world they're creating, how they program our subconscious.
01:03:00.000You see, these elites had learned these technologies long before they were codified scientifically in marketing and mind control and propaganda.
01:03:08.000The mind sciences, as the Nazis called them, or the Russians called them.
01:03:14.000Psychological warfare, as the British and the U.S.
01:03:20.000But having knowledge of the propaganda, and having knowledge that you're being programmed, and knowledge of the programming, allows you the power to put it down, to be aware of it, to see through it, and then it actually becomes an irritant, and spurs me on a daily basis to fight these people.
01:03:38.000You know, anytime I'm tired and don't want to fight, I just turn TV on and watch five minutes of news, five minutes of the smirking propaganda, five minutes of the evil elites, and I'm just absolutely ready to go.
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01:10:10.000Jordan, there's so much I could say about you, and I know you don't like to toot your own horn, but kind of encapsulate for us or give us a synopsis, the condensed version, but spend some time on it, about how you woke up, your awakening, the things you've done, the things you're most proud of, basically what your life's been about, what your passion's been about.
01:10:31.000First of all, thank you for having me on the program, and thank God for people like Alex Jones.
01:10:36.000keeping the spirit of freedom alive and I really appreciate being on the program with you Alex I got started back in 1959 59 I was very interested in secret societies all of my life even as a kid I was always into all of the occult or hidden information I I just gravitated toward that even as a child I wanted to know the things which are behind the scenes.
01:11:08.000Back in 1959 I began studying the secret societies and paternal orders of the world.
01:11:16.000It was in 1966 that Anthony Hilder put out his records called the Illuminati with Myron Fagan.
01:11:26.000I was a friend of Anthony's and I got that set of records back in 66, mid-66.
01:11:34.000And I began doing lectures at bookstores and even some of the motion picture studios and people that knew me out here in California.
01:11:45.000And I began traveling around just talking about Illuminati, Secret Societies, Fraternal Orders, and the way that these operations Go on right in front of us and we don't even see them.
01:11:59.000And so I've been doing it for 45 years.
01:12:01.000I'm tired now, obviously, and but I brought David Icke to America.
01:12:07.000I have given a lot of information to a lot of people in Hollywood.
01:12:15.000The subject of Illuminati is in motion pictures and television.
01:12:21.000It's being talked about around the world.
01:12:23.000There are all kinds of researchers, but I was doing it back in 1966, some 40 years ago.
01:12:30.000I'm just amazed at how the things I was talking about 40 years ago are starting to finally Well, just five years ago, Jordan, I was being made fun of because I would talk about skull and bones, and now skull and bones is passe.
01:12:53.000I believe at a certain level the New World Order is trying to reveal itself now, because the old stonewalling made them lose even more credibility.
01:12:59.000They're trying to reveal and put some of their own spin on it, but I want to get your view on that.
01:13:05.000In your studies since 1959, I guess 46 years, in your 46-year studies, I mean, if you had two minutes on national TV to boil it down, you're talking to the people, you know, what is the New World Order? you're talking to the people, you know, what is the Who are they?
01:14:33.000I think there is a dark force in the universe which wants to destroy the freedom of the creature that God created and gave us our freedom.
01:14:45.000And so I see this problem as a cosmic problem or a spiritual problem also.
01:14:54.000But I would boil down on the mundane level.
01:14:58.000I think the British royalty, the entire concept of the British Empire, is probably the main enemy of America, and we don't even begin to understand it.
01:15:13.000When you understand, too, the connections that the Vatican has with the British royalty, you need to remember that for At least 1600 years, Europe has dominated the world.
01:15:29.000And for 1600 years, the Vatican has dominated Europe.
01:15:33.000And the very idea, the very concept, or the word, New World Order, goes back to a Roman-Latin phrase, which was first in a poem by Virgil, the Roman poet,
01:15:52.000writing about Caesar and in his poem Agnus I believe it was he talked about a new world order in Latin Novus Ordo Siclorum and what he meant he said that when the world will finally come under the Roman heel of Caesar once Caesar has finally conquered the entire planet then there would come a Novus Ordo Siclorum
01:16:22.000So I believe, it's just my opinion, but after looking at it for 46 years, I am totally convinced for myself that the Vatican has a hidden agenda in which the British Empire, the British Royalty have thrown in with the secret societies that came out of the Roman Empire and are now in their last and final phase moving on the entire world.
01:16:51.000So, if anyone's going to do any research, you might want to go back and look at the British Royalty.
01:16:59.000The Queen Mum, Prince Charles, and all of that disgusting bunch who have decided that they are going to wipe out all freedom on the face of the Earth.
01:17:12.000And indeed, they openly said they're going to kill us!
01:17:14.000Yeah, and well, just think about this, and this is putting it in street language, but just think about if you came out One night from a restaurant and got in a fight with some guy and you beat him up and everybody pats you on the back that you're the big guy.
01:17:30.000You beat this guy up because he jumped on you, but you beat him.
01:17:34.000And then you find out that he was actually a gang member or a member of a made man in the mafia.
01:17:40.000The problem now is that you have just started the problem.
01:18:16.000And so consequently, all their conspirator friends, all of the illuminati people, Uh, operation going on in Europe for hundreds and hundreds of years.
01:18:30.000And they looked at the, uh, the King of England and said, and what are you going to do?
01:18:34.000Just like in the movie, uh, Gutfellows, when, uh, the kids said something and the, and the other guys and the mobs said, well, you're going to let him get away with that?
01:18:45.000So they all came here and took us over and now we're the eye of the pyramid.
01:18:49.000We'll be right back with Jordan Maxwell, riveting.
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01:23:37.000Jordan is like the river, J-O-R-D-A-N, maxwell.com.
01:23:42.000And go on there to check out my resume press kit and all the things I've done.
01:23:48.000And then also under articles, I've got a lot of different articles and banners.
01:23:54.000I've got a lot of different terms and words and phrases and questions about things which are going on in the world.
01:24:03.000So you'll have to see a lot of what I do because it's very difficult to translate it into words.
01:24:09.000But when you begin to see the symbols and the emblems and where they keep popping up, and I guess what I have been able to do is pattern recognition.
01:24:20.000When you begin to see the same names, the same symbols and emblems popping up in different organizations and the same words and terms popping up, you begin to see some kind of an overshadowing, all-encompassing you begin to see some kind of an overshadowing, all-encompassing agenda being opened.
01:25:28.000In 1967, I was over in Glendale, California, doing some research in the Glendale Library, and that was a watershed for me.
01:25:39.000That was a major, major thing that happened.
01:25:42.000I was looking through the World Book Encyclopedia and Since, uh, we're talking 67.
01:25:48.000Well, since 59 I have been reading and studying a lot about Nazi philosophy, communist theology, communist philosophy, etc.
01:25:56.000And the secret societies and paternal orders and the, uh, the terms and things which they use.
01:26:02.000But it was not until 67 in Glendale that I happened upon, uh, the World Bank Encyclopedia under, and I was looking under Russia or the Soviet Union, And on the Soviet Union, they had a picture of the flag of the Soviet Union and then the National Coat of Arms.
01:26:37.000I finally understood that one of the most powerful symbols the Illuminati has ever used And it finally occurred to me what it was I have been looking at for a long time and did not understand.
01:26:52.000And it's a very powerful symbol and it is everywhere.
01:26:57.000All the presidents of the United States have used the same terms.
01:27:01.000All the senators, congressmen use the same terms.
01:27:07.000All of the different governments throughout the world Fraternal orders all use the same words and terms and symbols.
01:27:15.000And once you begin to see it, then you say, my God, this is long and old and far back.
01:27:22.000This stuff is going all the way back into the primeval times.
01:27:28.000I mean, all of these symbols coming out of Egypt and Sumeria, Babylonia, Phoenicia, Cana, And now they are everywhere in our society, and the people, especially Christians, should be well aware of all of this, and even they don't see these things.
01:27:47.000But there was one in particular, and that was the sun rising over the mountains.
01:27:52.000And immediately it was said that the sun represents the dawning of a new day for the new order of the world, a new order of the world which was coming.
01:28:03.000Well, as I said, I saw this in Nazism, I've seen it in Communism, Fascism.
01:28:09.000I have watched this word and the terms and the symbols being used and it really excited me because now I've got something.
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01:31:01.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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01:31:52.000JordanMaxwell.com Jordan Congenuine, hello.
01:32:16.000Oh, by the way, in the next hour, folks, we will open the phones up so you can talk to Jordan Maxwell.
01:32:22.000Jordan, let's get into tracking it back to Babylon, back to Egypt, back to the first sciences of propaganda, controlling populations, teaching the population that the government is your God, and that you're a slave, and that it's wonderful to be a slave, and then we have the
01:32:39.000Aztecs and Mayans and Toltecs killing tens of thousands a year in total mind control and taking hallucinogenic drugs and dragging big ropes with obsidian glass through their tongues to have hallucinations of pain.
01:32:54.000You know, this dark demonicness that shows up in every human society with the pyramids and the symbols and the exact same activities right down the line.
01:33:06.000Let's go back to The research you've done on the beginnings of the Illuminati and exactly who they are, and then let's run up to modern times and talk about what their final goal is, you know, once they get their one world government, what are they planning to do?
01:33:22.000Well, you know, I think that there is a hidden story here, and the Bible talks about the angels and sons of God, The Watchers, and it implies both in all three religions, both in Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, talk about the presence of other world entities.
01:33:44.000Well, I'm totally convinced that that's true.
01:33:46.000There's no doubt in my mind that this Earth is being visited or is in the hands of, so to speak, foreign entities, not from here.
01:33:57.000I don't believe that this much badness and evil Can come from the mind of men, because it's too well put together.
01:34:09.000I mean, you can't get grown men to agree on much of anything, but this fantastic system of usury and manipulation and slavery has been going on for thousands and thousands of years.
01:36:08.000It was even in the book of Genesis, talking about the grove worshippers, or those who would meet in secret in the grove.
01:36:16.000And the very word grove, when you trace it in the Bible, the word in the ancient Phoenician language, For Grove was a phallic, a human phallic, the male phallic was referred to as the Grove, or a Grove, and that's why the tree is so important.
01:36:42.000As a matter of fact, the Washington Monument is a male phallic.
01:36:46.000It connects with the female ovaries, or the oval office.
01:36:51.000And when you begin to break down the words and the terms and symbols, You begin to see this is a very ancient stuff that's been going on for thousands of years and the Bible has Jesus saying many will look with their eyes but not see, listen with their ears but not hear, and with their heart not get the sense of it.
01:37:12.000And so many people who think that they're sophisticated and well-informed are looking at something which is at least 5,000 years old And they haven't got the faintest idea in the world what these symbols mean.
01:37:26.000Or how we're being played, and it's an extraordinarily frightening story.
01:37:30.000Now, it's part of their religion, though, that having their symbols out in plain view gives them the power, working the magic in plain view.
01:37:37.000I mean, you go in Starbucks, folks, it's obvious.
01:37:40.000Everything's pyramids, all-seeing eyes, pentagrams, goddesses, and people doing Diablo signs.
01:37:46.000Why do they need to constantly throw that in our face?
01:37:50.000Well, I think that it shows ownership.
01:37:58.000It's like a mark or a brand that shows ownership.
01:38:02.000It's like the kids in gangs will spray graffiti on the wall and all the people driving by would just be disgusted if it's messing up the wall.
01:38:13.000But no, you need to know how to read those symbols.
01:38:20.000The group that comes out late at night when all the people are sleeping.
01:38:24.000The gangs are roaming like animals and they understand what those symbols mean.
01:38:30.000And so when you're seeing these emblems and symbols and corporate logos and National Coats of Arms and Hallow Tree and all around you, they mean something.
01:39:00.000This thing's been going on for thousands of years.
01:39:04.000There's been a war between light and darkness from day one.
01:39:07.000And I think that we are really losing big time.
01:39:12.000America, as far as I'm concerned, Is the last great hope of the world, because when America goes under, it's the most powerful nation in the world, and consequently, it's going to take down the entire world.
01:39:27.000It's already been seized as a warmock, an engine, to knock down the walls of any other free people.
01:39:34.000And I'm frightened at the implications, what that means for children, what that means for human families, If you go on my website, like I said, and just go to the articles and look at some of the stuff I have there on the banners.
01:39:51.000And I've done a lot of videos and DVDs on the subject of words and terms and symbols.
01:39:58.000I mean, when you start breaking down the words, there's a whole magical world there that most people are totally unaware of.
01:40:07.000You think that you understand what words mean.
01:40:10.000But until such time as you are in trouble and you really need to know and you get an attorney or a lawyer or someone who's going to represent you who has studied the system and knows what the words mean, it's a really interesting story about how words are used.
01:41:41.000So there are only two basic kinds of law on the earth.
01:41:44.000The law of the land and the law of water.
01:41:48.000And once you understand that the law of the land is the law of the people who live on a particular plot of land, Uh, you find that the law of the land is different in every country.
01:42:06.000And so consequently, the law of the sea is referred to as maritime, uh, maritime law.
01:42:13.000And maritime law is the law of the high seas or the law of water or As any well-informed attorney will tell you, maritime law is the law of money.
01:42:25.000And because it's the cash flow, the liquid asset, it's the cash flow, and so the law of the high seas is the law of money.
01:42:42.000When you start looking at the words and the terms which are used, It's just beyond belief how well this thing has all been put together and we buy into it.
01:42:55.000I mean, when you walk into a court and the judge sits higher up so he can look down on you and you can look up to the law and he rules on the bench.
01:43:07.000We say that the judge rules on the bench.
01:44:37.000You're called a G.I., a government issue.
01:44:40.000Well, the government issues gas cans, and tires, and underwear, and guns, and everything else that the government issues.
01:44:48.000And so that's why they don't mind leaving Americans in concentration camps and leaving them uh... to die on a foreign land because they were a G.I.
01:45:00.000That's also a higher level part of the sacrifice.
01:45:02.000The Illuminati and Jordan Gritman is wrong but at least alludes themselves into well we have to keep balance in this whole force system and so if we kill a bunch of Iraqis our men have to die even if they don't die in battle so it's okay if they die from shots or die from D.U.
01:45:19.000because actually the gods demand that sacrifice.
01:45:22.000Well I'm sure there is something to that.
01:45:25.000You know, I've talked a lot about, and a lot of people who are hearing me, who know me, know that I've talked about this many times, but I'm bringing it up again because it's so important.
01:45:34.000The planet Saturn, the god, the ancient god Saturn, plays a very profound part in what's going on today throughout the world.
01:46:51.000and they have a carnival and carnival comes from carnivorous the eating of human flesh the eating of flesh carnival and the destruction of the old order in preparation for sunday when the new sun will rise on a new day and a new dawn for the world so the whole idea is to destroy the old world order in preparation for a coming New Order of the World.
01:47:17.000By the way, I was looking online at a website and I had pictures of somebody who had been on a carnival cruise, and all over the ship was this horned god eating people.
01:47:25.000Yeah, well that's... What am I telling you?
01:47:28.000I'm telling you that the planet Sovereign is very important to the secret societies and fraternal orders.
01:47:37.000And if you go back into the founding of this country, what the symbols meant and how they were being put together, It's very difficult to talk about this kind of subject in the short period that we have together, because there's so much that could be said about this.
01:47:55.000I've tried to do as much as I can, given my resources, because I'm not a businessman.
01:48:01.000I'm the guy that spends his life in libraries and researching and doing the writing and putting it together for myself, and it wasn't until 1988 that I really started going public with what I was spending my life doing since 59.
01:48:20.000And like I said, a lot of these speakers today that are talking about this subject, I was talking about it 45 years ago, and I'm just amazed at how much we don't know in this country, how things are right in front of you and we don't even see them.
01:48:38.000And of course, most of the people that are even in the system or think they know, they're in lower runes.
01:48:43.000That's why their symbol is the pyramid, that great symbol of compartmentalization.
01:48:51.000That's why they are able to get away with most of what they do, is because most people, you know, it's a fact of life that most people will support what they want to hear.
01:49:05.000They're not going to support what they don't want to hear.
01:49:08.000And therefore that's why the government gives to people what they want to hear.
01:49:15.000That's why religions give to people what they want to hear.
01:49:20.000Too many people are not ready to really look at the real truth about the symbols and emblems and how governments work, how courts work, how banks work.
01:49:30.000It's one hell of a story and it's about time that people start looking at these subjects.
01:49:37.000I've been trying to talk about it for many years.
01:49:40.000Again, my website is jordanmaxwell.com.
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01:53:13.000Take their bodies down on a bloody wall.
01:53:19.000You know, folks, I go off what I can prove.
01:53:21.000Interesting thing today, this never happens.
01:53:25.000Magically, my website from about five years ago, or four years ago, has been uploaded without us even doing it to where you can't even see my main page.
01:53:37.000Simultaneously when this started happening five minutes into the show today, about an hour and fifty minutes ago, all the network streams for audio went down for the internet.
01:53:48.000And of course we need to get it where our people can get into the IT system themselves and fix it.
01:53:55.000We're fixing it on our end at InfoWars.com.
01:53:58.000But I've been on there before with Colonel Craig Roberts, who's one of the people that's given me intel on what's going on.
01:54:06.000And right when I talk about this particular corporation based down on the river here in Austin, Texas, it's really a government front, talking about how they want to shut me down, right as I said shut us down, we were cut off.
01:54:20.000The satellites themselves were cut off.
01:54:25.000They love to leave mementos, and, hey, we're watching you.
01:54:29.000And this whole thing has run out of fear.
01:54:31.000Many of their minions are nothing more than really slaves.
01:54:34.000Jordan Maxwell, what is it that they're planning to build?
01:54:39.000Why are they so afraid of the people hearing what you have to say today?
01:54:42.000Well, I think that there is something very big going on here that's been going on for thousands of years, and it's a spiritual battle.
01:54:52.000And I'm not sure that many of us really understand the full implications of what the word God means, what the scriptures are really all about.
01:55:02.000The implications are just staggering for the future of the human race.
01:55:09.000When we were created by God, I have no problem believing in a divine presence in the universe that men have called God, but I am really fearful of looking at I think it's really going to be a very difficult subject to look at.
01:55:28.000Who really is in control of this planet?
01:55:32.000Where are we going as human creatures?
01:55:36.000What they have in mind is building something called the New Man.
01:55:46.000The new man is going to be a human which has all of its soul taken from it, so that you are nothing more than a worker, a consumer.
01:55:57.000You all, you know, it was explained in the motion pictures.
01:56:01.000My friend Dick Gregory said once that Hollywood does three things only.
01:56:06.000It tells you what it's already done, what they're doing now, and what they're getting ready to do.
01:56:11.000And if you go back and rent the movie Network, In which Ned Beattie, as the head of the network, explains to... That is a one world government run by the corporations, and that you yourself are a share of stock.
01:56:25.000And he said, all your anxieties will be put to rest, all the entertainment, everything will be provided for you, so that all you have to do is just do what you're told, and go along to get along, and everything is going to be fine.
01:56:41.000And I think that this is a horrible darkness that the world is slowly but surely being led into.
01:56:51.000And I think it calls into question now, who are we as humans?
01:57:08.000Thomas Jefferson said, I fear and I shudder when I think that God is just.
01:57:15.000The point he was making was, you know, when God decides to do something, when that divine presence in the universe decides to make a move, it doesn't matter now what you think.
01:57:27.000It just doesn't matter what side you're on.
01:57:29.000Now you've caused some serious problems.
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01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:06.000The New World Order is controlled by psychopathic control freaks whose religion demands that they control us, dumb us down, and kill us in ritualistic war that they engineer.
01:58:25.000Doesn't matter if it was the Babylonians, the Aztecs, the Egyptians, the Romans, the Nazis, the Communists, the neocons, they do the exact same thing over and over again.
01:58:50.000The good news is, though, people are waking up more than ever.
01:58:53.000They're smashing through the phony left-right paradigms.
01:58:56.000There are a lot of good things happening.
01:58:57.000But the Casual Society Control Group's going in.
01:59:00.000RFID to track every real item in time and space.
01:59:05.000Basically cookies attached to your own body, you know, like the internet cookies tracking everything you do.
01:59:09.000Total regulation, total psychological testing, enforced drugging, total enslavement.
01:59:17.000Jordan Maxwell, why do they want this police state?
01:59:20.000I mean, they're really gearing up this police state with all of the classical fascistic Nazi regalia abounding.
01:59:29.000Well, it's a religious thing that they're involved in.
01:59:34.000They believe that God has given the world to them.
01:59:40.000You could trace this back into the Middle Ages, and I hate to bring this up again, but it's part of the problem, is that the Vatican, the Pope was declared that the entire world belonged to God.
01:59:57.000And the entire Earth was given to Jesus, and consequently, until such time as Jesus comes back, the Vatican represented and the Pope represented the Vicar of Christ on Earth.
02:00:09.000Vicar means someone who stands in for.
02:00:12.000And so there were deals made between the Vatican and the British King John, back in the 12th century, in which it was stated uh... in documents that uh... that the vatican represents jesus who owns the whole world and until such time as jesus comes back the vatican owns the entire earth period and everything on it.
02:00:36.000Now to be clear then of course uh... at least from my study in many cases uh... the vatican is just itself being used as a tool by another group uh... behind that and we had pope john paul the second calling for a new world order calling for one world religion And of course, the Protestant Church, we have Pat Robertson on TV when he's praying for Jesus to heal somebody.
02:00:59.000He does the Diablo clearly, and then thrusts it towards the TV camera.
02:01:21.000I mean, why are they getting so much more obvious?
02:01:23.000Or is it just that we're just more aware?
02:01:26.000No, I think that the time is running out.
02:01:28.000I think that even the Mayan calendar, as you know, talks about 2012.
02:01:35.000Charles Ballet, in a book back in the early 90s, wrote a book called 1999, The End of the World, in which he went through all of the different prophecies of the ancient peoples of the world And talked about the fact that all of the ancient peoples that had holy writings talked about a time when the entire world would become a prison planet, so to speak.
02:02:02.000And that he was saying, Charles Billitz was saying, it looks like from 1999 on, we're going to see the fulfillment of all of these ancient prophecies from the Ancient world religions have talked about a dark force which is taking over the entire world.
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02:05:58.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:06:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:06:07.000We've got about 51 minutes left with our guest, Jordan Maxwell.
02:06:13.000Jordanmaxwell.com will tell you about some of his books and videos before he leaves us.
02:06:18.000I know that we have loaded phone lines.
02:06:20.000I really ask the listeners to have questions for Jordan Maxwell and concerning the Illuminati and the New World Order.
02:06:25.000I know we've got people that have been holding since before he even joined us.
02:06:28.000Like I said in the first hour, I wasn't taking calls, so we are now going to take some calls coming up here a little bit later in this hour, but I really wanted to be concerning this.
02:06:40.000I mean, there's a ton of things to talk about that are involved in the New World Order and in the Illuminati and what they're doing, but I would just ask that we try to keep it somewhat on topic when we do take calls.
02:06:54.000Jordan's studying the New World Order, studying their program.
02:07:19.000And whether it's Prince Philip, or Ted Turner, or the UN Foundations, or Henry Kissinger, or Australian declassified documents, or awards the UN has given China, it's between 80 and 95% of us.
02:07:35.000They've got all these Hollywood movies coming out about how the elites can exterminate us, and all these made-for-TV movies this year about how America is going to be destroyed and going to be hit.
02:07:46.000And, uh, you know, all these movies about how we have a tyrannical government that's gonna kill us.
02:07:51.000I mean, they really are now manifesting and really throwing it in our face, trying to bring it about.
02:07:57.000The question is, if we're able to get the word out to their minions and their servants, I know most of them are actually possessed by this spirit.
02:08:04.000It's like a poison, gas, a disease, a virus they've been infected with that's spread through the neural network of this larger human internet, as many scientists have described it.
02:08:19.000But I think instinctively now, as we get to the final cusp of this, to the flashpoint, the critical mass, the plunge point, a lot of people are starting to get sweaty palms and starting to get nervous and going, man, this is really evil, I don't think I'm going to survive this.
02:08:34.000I think a lot of people that were promised all this power are beginning to realize they're going to be destroyed first, not last.
02:08:41.000I think people are starting to really smell the stench of death, kind of like Hitler's own command.
02:08:48.000Now that they've gotten deep down this rat hole, your comments on what I just said.
02:08:55.000I think that the people who are in the military, military guys are beginning to suspect there's something wrong.
02:09:02.000And in my travels around, I have discovered that no matter how wealthy you are, no matter how comfortable people are, no matter how good a job you might have, everybody in this country and around the world No matter what your station in life, everyone knows there's something serious, bad going on on the earth.
02:09:55.000When you were talking about police, the very word police goes back to policy.
02:10:00.000Let me give you an example of where the police come in to this picture.
02:10:06.000When this country was founded, back in the old Wild West days, when you can watch all the old cowboy movies.
02:10:13.000Why was it that the cowboys could ride into town with their guns on their hips, they walk into the bar, they can carry guns, and if two guys had a falling out they could go out in the street and like high noon And as long as both of them were armed, they could pull a gun on each other, they could draw on each other, and one of them killed the other.
02:10:36.000By the way, Hollywood over-exaggerates all of this with the millions of murders that never were committed.
02:10:40.000Actually, the overall crime rate was lower than it is now.
02:10:43.000Well, yeah, but the point I'm making is that why was it that in America you could carry a gun And that you could go where you want?
02:10:51.000Because the 1870s hadn't come around with the founding of the police force in the Praetorian Guard Blue in New York.
02:10:58.000Well, and that's the point I was going to make is that you were not under, today we're not under law, any attorney will tell you that we're not under law, we are under something referred to as public policy.
02:12:21.000Well, the corporation called United States, which was incorporated back in The 1960s has a policy, and so it has its own policy, and this is where we get the idea of a democracy.
02:12:36.000Many people don't understand these words and terms.
02:12:41.000They think a democracy means all of us Americans, we can vote and do what we want because we're a democracy.
02:12:48.000That's not what the word democracy means at all.
02:12:51.000It has no meaning like that whatsoever.
02:12:54.000Democracy is the people who are the shareholders of the corporation can vote on who they want for their next president.
02:13:03.000And they can vote on certain things that the corporation wants to do, or doesn't want to do.
02:13:08.000They had the Blackstones and the Whitestones, and only gentried, elite, mass slave-owning, land-owning individuals in major cities, just a few hundred people, and they would march up to the hill, and they would even vote on whether they wanted to kill one of their own, who'd shot his mouth off, or who was doing... and they'd go throw him off the cliff.
02:14:04.000It means that they have Caesar-type dictatorial powers, and they can whip the mob up into whatever they want, and if the mob, 51% says, we're going to take Crassus' land and divide it amongst ourselves, that is done.
02:14:40.000He actually started displacing and breaking down, using that mob to actually go after the general public.
02:14:48.000And he kept everybody, he kept all the people happy.
02:14:51.000All the people were docile and happy with Caesar because he gave them alcohol and their games and ball games and entertainments and kept the people busy.
02:15:02.000There's some really interesting quotes that I've got on my website under words and quotes from those ancient times.
02:15:12.000I mean, the more we change, the more we stay the same.
02:15:15.000The same old stuff is going on that's always happened, and here it is happening again.
02:15:20.000But the problem today is that the situation is so large and so all-encompassing that whatever is going to happen, the whole world is going to feel it.
02:15:33.000Whatever it is that's being played out right now at the top, something terrible is coming on the world.
02:15:41.000The entire world of mankind is going to feel it.
02:15:44.000There's going to be no place to run to.
02:15:47.000And I am totally convinced that we are in the last days.
02:15:50.000And just as the scripture talked about, I am sure that we are going to see some very terrible things coming now.
02:15:58.000Meanwhile, Pat Robertson and others are now saying that basically Jesus is going to appear and be our world leader and be physical, and he's going to have to cut the heads off of the people that don't worship him.
02:16:16.000Right in front of everybody, and so many people don't see it.
02:16:20.000They will when it's finally over, when it's finally too late.
02:16:24.000You know, when I first came to California in 1959, I joined a German-American friendship club, and I used to go to all the German parties, and I would ask them, as a 19-year-old kid, I would ask all the old German couples, How is it that Adolf Hitler could have done what he did, and you didn't know?
02:16:45.000You didn't know where he was leading the country, ultimately?
02:16:49.000What was going to happen, and where all of this stuff was going that he was doing?
02:16:53.000And they would always tell me the same thing, all of them.
02:16:56.000They would always say, well, we didn't know, we're just following the government.
02:17:00.000After all, he is the head of the government, and the government, you know, they're in charge, and so we had to follow our government.
02:17:07.000Well, and you know, at 19 years old, I can't argue with the old people.
02:17:12.000But now at 65 years old, I look back on all of this, and now I know what the real story was.
02:17:18.000It wasn't that the Germans didn't know what Hitler was doing.
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02:21:58.000I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.
02:22:03.000We're gonna go to Chris, and Chris, and Pat, and Terry, and Jason, everybody.
02:22:09.000Here in just a few minutes, but talking to Jordan Maxwell of JordanMaxwell.com, I've been involved in investigating the New World Order and the Illuminati since 1959.
02:22:18.000Involved in a lot of different historical actions, fighting it and exposing it and educating people.
02:22:28.000I just want a lot of the listeners out there who are part of this system and who have rationalized and made excuses, I just want them to know that The culture has taught them that laying down makes you safe, but in the natural world, the way predators operate, the way elites have always operated, the lion goes after the wounded wildebeest.
02:22:51.000The owl goes after the little cowering bunny rabbit.
02:22:57.000It doesn't go after another big predator.
02:23:00.000And we've been taught that you can't fight City Hall, lay down, don't talk about politics and religion.
02:23:06.000All of this is antithetical to what America was founded on.
02:23:10.000And can you speak to those people out there that know deep down in their guts they're serving the Antichrist world government system?
02:23:16.000Do you have any words of wisdom for them, Mr. Maxwell?
02:23:22.000Well, what you said is true and I think it's interesting that you brought that up because in my mind I was thinking to myself for a long time now that I'm just tired of talking about this subject, and I wanted to go back to my first love, which is theology and religion and the Bible, because I have been ordained as a minister twice in my life, and I've just kind of given up on the subject of government.
02:23:48.000I was honored to be invited to be on your program.
02:23:53.000Normally I haven't been talking about government much anymore.
02:23:56.000I had not intended to because I feel that there's a bigger subject that I need to contend with and deal with and that is the theological implications of where we're going.
02:24:10.000So do you believe that if we change ourselves and are loving and good and do the right thing that at a cellular level that will change the whole world?
02:24:22.000I understand the concept, but I don't think that's going to happen.
02:24:26.000It hasn't happened in the past 10,000 years.
02:24:29.000There's no reason to think that the human race is going to wake up and do anything different than it always has.
02:24:35.000There's always been a handful of people who were on the cutting edge intellectually and spiritually, evolved people who could see the problems that You know, read some of the writings from Tacitus and some of the writers in the Roman Empire who saw what was coming, and they knew what was on the way for the Roman Empire, but nobody was listening.
02:24:58.000So I think there's always been a handful of spiritually-minded, cutting-edge people who understand, you know, what was going on and where it's going, but they've always been in the minority.
02:25:11.000The majority have always supported the dictator.
02:25:16.000Ludwig von Mises said in one of his books that the population of every country has always, and in every case, always supported a dictator.
02:25:28.000There has never been a time in the history of the world that a dictator came into power that the population of the country did not support him wholeheartedly.
02:25:39.000So we know that that is in the nature of people and mankind To support the bully.
02:25:46.000We want to support him so he doesn't hurt us.
02:27:00.000And there's only a handful of people in this country and around the world who have the spirituality of golfing to know what a professional golfer does.
02:27:51.000Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.
02:27:54.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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02:32:04.000Radiating the kids to make them stupid, forced drugging, different tiers and classes.
02:32:10.000The TH61138, Brave New World, Gattaca, The Island, We, that was written I guess in like 1918 or something, which is even the precursor of that, but he said, no, this is the plan!
02:32:46.000Whoever thought we'd have Sean Hannity, and we'd have Pat Robertson, and we'd have Andy Rooney, and Tommy Thompson, former head of Health and Human Services.
02:32:59.000Traveling the country saying every child needs a chip.
02:33:19.000We're not the weirdos up here talking about this.
02:33:22.000We were the weirdos 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
02:33:24.000People like Jordan Maxwell talking about this 20 years ago.
02:33:27.000I mean I read books 30 years ago, well not 30 years ago, books that were written 30 years ago saying that all this was going to happen and everything those old timers said came true.
02:33:38.000They were reading documents, they had sources, they understood the program.
02:33:43.000And I've been studying this so long that two months before 9-11, just from indicators and key phrases and things I saw and things that were going on, I never make predictions.
02:34:00.000I mean, it was so clear because they were dropping hints on TV.
02:34:05.000I saw Gary Hart and Rudman on Hardball going, big buildings, New York, going to go down.
02:34:09.000They were celebrating, doing little signs, shaking hands together, it's going to get bad, going to be bad, wait until you see what happens.
02:34:45.000I think that they are aware of the fact that there are some very powerful forces in the universe that are against them, and they've got to hurry up Let's speed up their timetable.
02:34:57.000I think that they're looking at... I believe that they're really concerned about 2012, but I've heard people in the military talking about 2007.
02:35:09.000And after 2007, if something isn't done to save the human race, it's over.
02:35:42.000I would only ask that everyone, when they finally Well, figure out what's going on and they finally see the end result of all of this.
02:35:51.000Just remember the people, try and remember who they are, who were telling you everything's just fine.
02:35:57.000You know, the Tom Brokaw and all these other talking head jokers on NBC and CBS who are smiling and telling you everything's just fine and it's all a big silly nonsensical conspiracy theory.
02:36:15.000Just remember who they are, and when your family comes undone, and when the comedown comes down, just try and remember all the smiling faces and talking heads that were telling you everything was just fine.
02:36:28.000Because what they're planning on, these guys, the Tom Brokawks of the world, they're planning on being well taken care of by their masters.
02:36:40.000Or leading all the others to slaughter, but they know that they are well-fixed, they're well-heeled, they're well-dressed and taken care of, so they'll be alright when the come-down comes down.
02:36:52.000So I just want all Americans to remember the Tom Brookoffs and all these other jerks who are the mouthpiece for the mob.
02:37:01.000Just remember who they are and what they said and how they told you that everything was just fine and that people who are talking about such things were a bunch of goofs.
02:38:06.000You take a bus when you're leaving town.
02:38:08.000I am totally convinced that this whole space station, space shuttle, Uh, the, uh, the telescope, the Hubble telescope, this is all military.
02:38:18.000I think the powers that be in this world are getting ready to quietly, uh, get out of here.
02:38:24.000They made movies about this a long time ago.
02:38:31.000I think that they, uh, they're getting ready to get out of here because they know the comedowns getting ready to come down and they're going to take off quietly.
02:38:40.000and live in a space station and they're doing it quietly.
02:38:42.000There was a movie made many years ago called Silent Running in which there was a space station and the masters of this world were trying to see if they could set up a space station in which they could live when the earth was finally unfinished and no more human life could live on it any longer than they could go up to the space station and live in.
02:39:04.000It was called Silent Running which implied they're getting ready to run but they're keeping it silent And I'm watching all of this happening, and today we... You know, how many Americans go out to Florida and watch the space shuttle take off, and they've got their flags out there like a bunch of fools, and they are loving it.
02:39:22.000They can't wait to see the... Well, they admit that 84% of the space shuttle program is classified.
02:39:31.000When I see the Americans jumping up and down, and they're hooraying, they're seeing the rocket take off, I wonder how many people have ever wondered how much toxic poison is the space shuttle pumping into the atmosphere in Florida?
02:39:49.000What kind of deadly poisons are coming out of the back end of that rocket?
02:39:54.000Uh, to, you know, for the Space Shuttle.
02:39:56.000But most people don't think about that.
02:39:59.000We also know for a fact the Space Shuttle is a 1937 design by Werner Von Braun, and that it's just a public tinker toy and heavy lifter that they like to show us.
02:40:09.000For at least 20 years they've had high-powered space planes.
02:40:15.000I have personally, with my own eyes, been a witness to Some of the stuff that's really out there that very few people have any idea in the world is out there.
02:40:25.000Well, the V2 bomber was sacred for 10 years.
02:40:33.000Jordan, before we do that, tell folks about some of your books and videos.
02:40:36.000Well, I was going to say, it's very difficult to talk about all of this when we're under time restraints, but I've got a lot of videos and DVDs In which I talk about these problems and have the pictures and diagrams and all the information.
02:40:55.000So you can just go on my website to jordanmaxwell.com and one in particular, one video or DVD that sells well is the basic slide presentation.
02:41:09.000It's a thing I did many years ago and it's still the best seller.
02:41:14.000And I'm amazed that this was done back in, I don't know, 89 or 90, and it's still the best seller because it's a two-hour program in which I went through all kinds of occult symbols, emblems, words, and terms, and it's just a two hours of a slide presentation.
02:41:53.000Okay, I need help, because is good always supposed to be the minority traveling through the dark woods, or will Truth and beauty ever have a dominant force over this disgusting, horrible... I know, Alex, you don't believe in reptilians or anything like that, but... Oh, I never said that.
02:42:13.000I know, I said Alex doesn't, but... Well, yeah, well... I think that's not important, but it is important, the question you're asking.
02:42:22.000Is there ever going to be a time when good will triumph in the world?
02:42:27.000As far as I'm concerned, I don't think so.
02:42:30.000I think what... and let me tell you why.
02:43:20.000I just want to talk about real quick, I'm just kind of pulling this out of my head, but I was actually dating a young woman, a Christian girl.
02:43:29.000She was a real good girl, sweet girl, but I have a concealed carry permit and I'm prior military.
02:43:37.000And she thought your gun was a devil weapon?
02:44:20.000You know, no matter how good of a guy you are, how good you treat a girl, especially women in our society, I mean, it doesn't matter how law-abiding you are.
02:44:30.000Well, I'm not going to sit here and bash women, but I'll tell you this.
02:44:33.000Most of the propaganda targets women because 80% of purchases are decided or made by women.
02:44:39.000And yeah, they tell the women, don't discipline your kids.
02:44:41.000That way the state can take them and do it themselves.
02:44:43.000They tell the women, don't have weapons.
02:44:51.000First thing they do is take the biggest, toughest male, beat him up in front of the women, then threaten to beat their children if they didn't basically inform on the men.
02:44:59.000And so women are set up above men as their rulers in tyrannies.
02:45:09.000So, I mean, if you've got a problem with you being a real man, you know, I mean, I don't know if I'd want to be with a woman who didn't want to have a man who'd protect her or who wouldn't want to protect herself.
02:45:20.000Because I bet she feels real safe when a cop comes by in a black mask and in the robes of Saturn.
02:45:25.000Until most people, until they have had experiences, they live in a dream world, but when you wake up and find out The police are not here to keep law and order.
02:45:40.000They're here to enforce public policy.
02:45:44.000And it has nothing to do with American law.
02:45:47.000I mean, there's a whole story behind where police come from, where the word comes from.
02:45:53.000All of that I've discussed on some of my DVDs that you need to get.
02:45:58.000We've got to finish up here, but what's your final point, sir?
02:47:20.000Because the very word Christ, you need to get into the word Christ, where it comes from, what it means, and then you will begin to understand the Antichrist.
02:47:27.000It is a system that's in operation, not an individual.
02:47:31.000I know what the scriptures say, but I believe it is a whole system that we are being led into.
02:47:52.000But then it also, at the same time, masquerades around and says it's good.
02:47:56.000Well, I know, but that's what the Scriptures said would happen.
02:48:00.000I mean, there's prophecy being fulfilled right in front of us.
02:48:03.000Again, I'm telling you, I think that for myself, I'm seeing that the spiritual aspect of this world problem There's something that I want to concentrate more on than talking about government, because there's a lot of people talking about what's going on in government, and government is becoming more and more obvious.
02:48:22.000Well, Jordan, we've got one more segment left.
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02:52:23.000And they are being spiritually led by this dark force, the devil, the old serpent, whatever you want to call it, into setting up a system to destroy.
02:52:44.000The elite throughout history on all continents, devil worships, drinks blood, murders masses of people, chops hearts out, and worships flying snakes.
02:52:53.000Now, whether those flying snakes are real or not is debatable.
02:53:23.000There was a question you said, Jordan, about that you didn't think anything would come on this earth, you know, any happiness ever.
02:53:29.000I mean, isn't Jesus supposed to come back and take us out of here?
02:53:33.000Well, you know, that's one of the things I'd like to really do, is I'd like to get into the theological mess that has been provided by the Illuminati for us, because we know that the governments are corrupt, banks are corrupt, the military is corrupt, we know that corruption is everywhere, but most people have no idea as to how really corrupted the theology of the Western world is, and how it's been
02:54:00.000Put together by the same people who gave you the Illuminati.
02:54:35.000Okay, and then, uh, uh, it talks about in there about how they, uh, can go up, you know, into their, uh, their, their subconscious and escape the, the real, uh, the, oh, the plane of reality here on, you know, that we, that we see here on Earth.
02:54:55.000And, uh, I believe they do this via meditation and so on, whatever, and it's also the degrees of the masonry and the Knights Templar and all that stuff.
02:55:06.000Okay, my question is, do you think, if you've studied this, do you think that this is where we have to face these guys, is on this level, instead of here on the physical plane, where they will win?
02:55:18.000Yeah, well, as I said, I believe the really important subject Which I have been working with for years that we haven't really gotten into is the occult or hidden significance in the theological foundations of the Western world.
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