Alex Jones talks about martial law in Ohio, forced labor camps in Oregon and much more. Big Brother and the mainstream media are covering up the truth. You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas.
00:00:47.000We're going to be here live for the next three hours.
00:00:51.000But getting back into the news today, every few months I see an article like this.
00:00:59.000And so, I just instructed Ryan Slickhizen, one of the main webmasters for InfoWars.com, to build a data page on that.
00:01:09.000To take some of the instances that I just called up from memory, which we did in short order with the search engines off of the websites, and to post them all in one convenient area.
00:01:22.000This is Channel News 5, out of one of the major cities in Ohio, out of Cleveland.
00:01:30.000Bill would allow arrest for no reason in a public place.
00:01:34.000And it goes on to say that it is martial law powers, and that for no reason you can be arrested and taken off.
00:01:42.000And then I thought I'd pull up this article.
00:01:44.000This was out of the Oregonian, Oregon law, would jail war protesters as terrorists for life Or if they agree to force labor 25 years in a quote forest labor camp.
00:01:56.000We don't just have Reuters and the Oregonian.
00:02:00.000We actually have the bill that almost passed.
00:02:03.000The head of the committee almost got it passed.
00:03:05.000We had a great affiliate at the time that had been there for years.
00:03:08.000Well, several affiliates there and now, of course, solar change management.
00:03:11.000In Rhode Island, we really had a huge audience.
00:03:13.000One of our transmitter towers, I think they said it was like a half mile from the Capitol building.
00:03:18.000And, uh, Jack Bauer was broadcasting at the time from there, right on Main Street, and, and, and, and, and it was actually in the news, in fact, it was right here, that people were revolting, showing up in mass by the hundreds in front of the Capitol, screaming, because it actually said in the paper, criticize the government, you're going to go to a camp.
00:03:57.000It's what degree of a police state we're under.
00:03:59.000Yes, we're going into a very serious police state.
00:04:02.000We've been in a police state for a long time.
00:04:07.000I mean, when people are randomly being drug off by men in black uniforms and there's warrantless searches and asset forfeiture seizure with no drugs or no convictions or no witnesses or just the cops say so they take your house.
00:04:18.000When we've got police running murder for hire all over the country, getting caught routinely, planting drugs on people.
00:04:24.000I mean, think of all the stuff that goes on.
00:04:26.000The Pentagon spying on protesters, Echelon snooping.
00:04:33.000That's a Grade A... I mean, if it was a state, it'd be the finest black Angus or Colby beef, hand-massaged, grain-fed, I mean, literally, they have cows they massage, and the steak's $200, so it's a $200 filet mignon.
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00:08:07.000You know, I was just sitting in a video clip I've never seen of ABC News, of regular US Army going, well, we don't like confiscating guns in America, but we're doing it.
00:08:54.000So now, because a criminal did something, the government's going to take your guns.
00:09:00.000And so we're going to post that video clip on InfoWars.com in the next hour or so, and I'm going to be airing it later in the broadcast today, here, because it's all part of our ongoing martial law theme.
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00:09:19.0009-11 rise of the police, and it's all about how we're going under martial law, and all the public statements about how we're all going to be slaves, and how this is a wonderful thing.
00:09:30.000But what got me back on this jag today is a story out of News Channel 5.
00:09:56.000It's already passed through the legislature.
00:09:58.000One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio, small towns, and big cities.
00:10:06.000We've got the Libertarian gubernatorial candidate joining us later in the shower.
00:10:11.000To talk about it, the Ohio Patriot Act has made its way to TASC's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest anti-terrorism bill in the country.
00:10:21.000The lengthy piece of legislation, which we now have a copy of or are trying to analyze, I just learned of this a few hours ago, We'll let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, addresses, and birthdates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.
00:10:37.000And you read the bill, some of the sections, basically, if you don't submit to a shakedown, a show your papers please, and you see, in the past they tried to claim this was failure to ID, but the Supreme Court and state courts have all said, no, you can't do that in America.
00:10:52.000I mean, they never put up with it in England in places.
00:11:03.000The Ohio Patriot Act made it to Taft's desk.
00:11:06.000And it says, even if they've done nothing wrong, they'll be arrested.
00:11:08.000WEWS reported it would also have the way for everybody entering critical transportation sites as train stations, airports, bus stations to show ID.
00:11:34.000In malls, in parking lots, on the side of the road, outside banks, in banks.
00:11:39.000And it showed on the news, teams of men in black uniforms in riot gear just randomly, quote, swarming.
00:11:46.000And then, at the same time, the Feds announced Viper Teams, the TSA.
00:11:51.000Remember, they used TSA at the inauguration.
00:11:53.000Well, that was always the plan, to train everyone.
00:11:56.000And they go into cities, where the cities take federal money for transportation, and they say, look, in one article it said, give us 40 officers.
00:12:07.000And then you've got to assign them to us, and then there's a smaller team of feds, TSA, air marshals basically, who then order them around, and then under them, they have citizen tattletale brigades, and we had one of their head guys on from Knoxville, what, on Tuesday.
00:14:06.000With friends like that, who needs enemies?
00:14:08.000There are many others who oppose the bill as well.
00:14:11.000The variety of people who are opposing this is not just a group of usual suspects.
00:14:15.000We have people far right to far left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea, said Alan McGitley, News Channel 5 terrorism expert.
00:14:23.000By the way, I just don't want the... We got a stall for Congress running for State Senate joining us.
00:14:32.000Uh, coming up in the middle of the next hour, we've got the Libertarian gubernatorial candidate who's fighting this coming up in a little while, but I want more people on about this.
00:14:43.000And then the article just continues here.
00:14:45.000It says, He said that it isn't sure that the law would do what it's intended to do.
00:14:52.000I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea.
00:15:35.000Governor Ridge said on C-SPAN three and a half years ago, and I've watched him, you're going to have to have an ID to have a job, especially showing your security clearance.
00:16:50.000That's coming out next year, early next year.
00:16:53.000But then I've got this big stack of stuff here in front of me.
00:16:58.000You know, I thought, what are three or four of the items I remember just recently concerning states?
00:17:05.000Here's Oregon law with general protesters, war protesters as terrorists, and that's Reuters, and then I have another one that says life in prison for protesters, that's out of the Oregonian, but then I have the bill itself.
00:17:18.000Dubbed Senate Bill 742 in Oregon, it barely was defeated by three votes.
00:17:25.000And it says, go read it, download music, block traffic, protest basically in any way that there's 140 something reasons, write a hot check, life in prison unless you agree to go to a quote, forest labor camp for 25 years of forced labor.
00:17:48.000Folks, you think I'm joking, just go read the bill!
00:17:53.000I've been on talk shows and talked about this, and the hosts have gone, you're a liar, and I go, $10,000, bet me, right?
00:17:57.000I mean, I'm not a betting man, but come on, come on, put your money where your mouth, and they can tell the confidence, they know it's true, they go, no, I'm not going to bet you.
00:18:03.000Because I know a lot of you aren't going to check this out, you're not going to, cops driving along, maybe you think it's a good idea, yeah, download music, forced labor camp, yeah, good, that's freedom.
00:18:16.000I mean, in Communist China, they don't put you in a forced labor camp for writing a hot check or downloading music.
00:19:15.000Governor's proposed Homeland Security Bill under fire.
00:19:18.000And this is two days after we exposed it.
00:19:21.000They had a Providence Journal article that said, criticize the government, protest, life in prison.
00:19:28.000But by the time it was quote, criticism, because they didn't want to give you all the info, it just kind of whitewashes it and says, Well, it says the bill, which Carcieri introduced last week, also resurrects World War I-era laws that make it illegal to speak, utter, or print statements in support of anarchy, speak in favor of overthrowing the government, or to disrupt any flag or emblem other than the flag of the United States as a symbol of the government.
00:19:49.000But then the bill said protesting and everything else in it.
00:19:52.000It says create a new felony charge to require annual safety audits for every... It just goes on and on.
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00:23:10.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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00:25:36.000It's just that, you know, somebody will go read one article and go, well, that's just one state.
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00:26:00.000Senate reaches deal on the federal Patriot Act.
00:26:04.000Late last night, a senator struck a deal that will fully re-authorize the Patriot Act in its current form for six months, and that means not beefing it up.
00:26:13.000Quote, the changes and the lessening, you know, making it better, those provisions.
00:26:18.000It was actually a Patriot Act too, much a Patriot Act too.
00:26:28.000And then you read it, and it had some flowery language about rights, Added even worse stuff in there.
00:26:36.000Like now making protesting a federal crime with the Secret Service having jurisdiction nationwide.
00:26:40.000Late Wednesday evening, Senators struck a deal that will fully reauthorize the Patriot Act in its current form for six months and give lawmakers the chance to revisit controversial portions of the Act that have been subject to extensive opposition.
00:26:54.000The agreement came after a full day of negotiation among President Bush and Senate Republican leaders who support renewal and Democrats and moderate GOP-ers who oppose the act in its negotiated form.
00:27:05.000According to the deal reached late Wednesday, the 16 expiring provisions of the Patriot Act will be Renewed for six months, that will give opponents the chance to take up civil liberties issues that forced a filibuster on the bill last week.
00:27:18.000Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, Larry Craig of Ohio, John Sununu of New Hampshire, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska helped block a final vote on a compromise bill offered by House and Senate negotiators last week.
00:27:31.000Must feel good to be Chuck Hagel actually owning the voting machine company that 90% of his constituents voted on.
00:27:38.000It's got to feel good to own the machines people vote for you on.
00:27:42.000No conflict of interest, everything's fine.
00:27:45.000For a lot of reasons it made the most sense given that there are significant differences that remain since Sununu, the demon.
00:27:56.000So that's what's going on with that, but they were not able to expand it.
00:28:00.000And then there were people trying to do a compromise to Defang a few of its teeth, but the thing with a great white shark... See, what people don't know about these laws is that, you know, a great white shark has row after row of teeth, is that there are a couple provisions in there that are catch-alls.
00:28:16.000And in my analysis of Patriot 1 and 2, I point this out, is that it duplicates I mean, in fact, habeas corpus, no due process, martial law, police state provisions are repeated five times in Patriot Act 2.
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00:33:46.000It is a Thursday edition, 22nd day of December 2005.
00:33:49.000We're going to be here live for the next three hours.
00:33:53.000Well, now two and a half hours, roughly.
00:33:57.000And coming up in the middle of the next hour, we have a gentleman running for office here in Texas who has gotten the majority of counties to sign on and to start lawsuits and start taking action against the state and the government and the companies in Spain, one major company connected to Juan Carlos the King, who are going to make almost every road in Texas 8,000 miles.
00:34:23.000And are basically taking over the entire state.
00:34:26.000This will be nationwide with these new transponder toll roads, so you don't want to miss that.
00:34:31.000In just a minute or so, we're going to go to Bill Purce, running for governor.
00:34:37.000There in Ohio, the Libertarian ticket, and we'll tell you about how you can get involved and help him, with the martial law type legislation that is unfolding there, and yes, in many other states and cities and counties around the nation.
00:34:52.000But before we go to our first guest of the day, I want to remind the listeners that I have made 14 documentary films.
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00:35:38.000A lot of other books and videos we carry in the InfoWars.com video and bookstore.
00:35:42.000Of course, there's my film, Martial Law, the mini-series, three hours long, covering the police state, 9-11, and the Globalist's master plan for world domination.
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00:37:47.000Without further ado, I'd like to set the table for our illustrious guest, and he is illustrious.
00:37:53.000I appreciate him running for office, takes a lot of nerve, a lot of gall, and being part of the Libertarian Party, who I support in many aspects, and we're just proud of him.
00:38:01.000But I want to remind you, Governor's proposal, Homeland Security Bill under fire.
00:38:06.000Rights activists shocked and amazed by martial law provisions of a bunch of articles we're posting.
00:38:11.000They try to declare martial law in Rhode Island.
00:38:37.000We have the bill posted right there directly to the Oregon Statehouse if you don't believe me.
00:38:42.000And I have a bunch of others, but the latest thing is what's happening in Ohio.
00:38:47.000We read that story earlier, where you'll have little police shakedown teams on the streets and the bus stops, and if you don't answer all their questions and show your papers, you'll be drug off to the gulag.
00:38:59.000And again, joining us is the libertarian candidate running for governor in Ohio, Bill Purce.
00:39:08.000Tell us a little bit about yourself and why you're running for governor and then tell us how Ohioans are handling this new nightmare legislation.
00:39:18.000Well, I taught economics at Case Western Reserve University for about 35 years and then I decided, I retired and I decided that there were so many things wrong with the way the state was governed that I should run for governor and get my message across.
00:39:37.000So, the problem that I find with this legislation, well, there are a lot of problems.
00:39:43.000One, it's unnecessary because we have plenty of criminal law already and we don't need to add more, but it has these specific provisions that We're really moving toward a national ID kind of state, where you'd have to have your papers with you at all times.
00:40:01.000Well, you're an astute gentleman, Professor, and I'm sure you've noticed that magically other cities are doing this.
00:40:07.000Suddenly, Viper, TSA, air marshals are on the streets of Dallas.
00:40:12.000It's on the news, shaking people down, demanding papers in Miami.
00:40:15.000The police say they're just going to surround shopping malls and search everyone.
00:40:19.000I mean, this is... I mean, the Nazis didn't even do that on a routine basis.
00:40:23.000Well, whenever you have a war, the government seizes great powers.
00:40:28.000And a war on terrorism is difficult because there's no real beginning and no real end.
00:41:00.000I'm reading some of the provisions out of the newspaper.
00:41:03.000Tell us specifically, as a scholar of this, and looking at it, why you're particularly upset.
00:41:09.000What do you think are some of the more egregious languages?
00:41:13.000Well, the first provision, the intrusions on privacy.
00:41:18.000Show us your papers if you're in any transportation site including an airport, a railroad station, a bus station, and also you're going to have to be required to show your identification if you are anywhere near where a policeman thinks the crime has been committed or might be committed.
00:41:43.000When Saul Ridge said this as Homeland Security Director three years ago, he said, what you see in the airport is the model for everywhere.
00:42:06.000You know, you use a certain burr, a certain tool for a certain thing.
00:42:11.000And, you know, this is like they're trying to, you know, basically I mean, clearly they know what the configuration of all of this, quote, security is classical mass oppression, Soviet Nazi, you know, total despotism, Stalinistic, gulag archipelago type stuff.
00:42:35.000I mean, on the surface, 101 and law enforcement training, this doesn't fit into that in any way to, quote, keep us safe.
00:42:43.000I guess the public smoke screen is, we want to keep you safe.
00:42:47.000But the government knows this is the classic configuration of mass oppression.
00:42:51.000So the $64 million question is, why Professor, our gubernatorial candidate, Mr. Perce, why then do you think the government's doing this?
00:43:01.000Well, I think that it's hard to oppose anything that sounds patriotic.
00:43:06.000You know, you call it a National Patriot Act, and everybody in Congress has to favor it.
00:43:13.000You call it a State Patriot Act, and everybody in the state legislature has to favor it.
00:43:19.000Fortunately, there was some opposition, but still, it's very difficult politically.
00:43:25.000Well, I never properly finished my analogy, but it's like instead of using a small drill bit to fix a tooth in a root canal, it'd be like if they came in with a huge gas-powered jackhammer.
00:43:37.000Well, that's true of some of these provisions, like the ID provisions, but some of it is just plain ridiculous.
00:43:46.000You have the state now passing all these regulations about biological, chemical, radiological, and nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists, and surely if anything like that happens, it's going to be prosecuted under federal laws anyway.
00:44:02.000We certainly don't need a state law against having nuclear weapons.
00:44:46.000Are they going to slap all this on the Ohioans, or are they saying they'll shoot it down?
00:44:51.000I haven't heard any of the other candidates object.
00:44:54.000There are several Republicans and several Democrats who have declared an interest.
00:45:00.000Most likely, that so far has been that it'll be Ken Blackwell running as the Republican, Representative Ted Strickland running as a Democrat.
00:45:08.000Yeah, Blackwell, the master of stealing elections.
00:45:12.000He is now Secretary of State and is running for Governor, yes.
00:45:21.000I'll tell you, we've got Scalamones on one side, Mr. Election Thief on the other, caught red-handed.
00:45:27.000But, you know, people ought to elect you.
00:45:29.000They ought to get a good Libertarian in there.
00:45:30.000What would you do if you got elected, Mr. Perce?
00:45:36.000My platform is, you know, I'm for individual rights, the whole Bill of Rights all the way.
00:45:47.000I'm running specifically on economic issues because that's my specialty.
00:45:52.000But that means cutting taxes and minimizing the regulations the government puts in our way.
00:45:59.000It also means reforming education to allow parents to choose the schools for their children and the state money follows.
00:46:08.000And it means reforming the property tax so that people don't pay extra when they improve their property.
00:46:14.000I tell you, Mr. Pershing, I mean really, boiling it down, this is classical tyranny.
00:46:18.000I mean this ought to scare people to death.
00:47:08.000And, you know, I'm hoping there's time enough to rally public support against it before the governor signs it.
00:47:16.000But, yeah, there's a whole list of things No, it's a lot like the McCarthy era when you had to declare that you weren't on the On the list of suspect organizations.
00:47:31.000McCarthy didn't have, wasn't federalizing the local police.
00:47:34.000It didn't say, we're going to surround shopping malls and search everyone.
00:47:38.000I mean, imagine, there might be a terrorist somewhere in America, we have no idea where, so we're going to federalize local police and have them randomly go out and shake everyone down.
00:47:46.000I mean, this is literally like living in a prison.
00:47:49.000In a prison, they say, all right, shake "Stake down, open up, we're coming in, put your hands on it." I mean, that's what the cops at schools, I have video all over the country released by the schools.
00:47:57.000They're proud of where they have the kids line up, all of them, put their hands up on the wall and the police dogs come in.
00:48:02.000I mean, we're all being trained how to be prisoners here.
00:48:04.000But government, statistically, is just a gang with a flag who is more criminal on average than any other group.
00:48:10.000They have no business doing this. - Well, that's why we have to defend our liberties all the time because it just creeps up on you.
00:48:19.000You lose one, and then you lose the next, and so on.
00:49:04.000I don't know if that's true, I mean... Well, I mean, it has a lot of these provisions in there.
00:49:09.000For example, it mandates Courts that find an alien guilty of anything to assume that he's a terrorist, you know, they're treating all immigrants as though they're terrorists.
00:49:23.000Well, they always put that in there to sweeten it, to quote, get the illegal aliens, but that's going to be selectively enforced.
00:49:59.000You measure it in yards, but you can't count them.
00:50:06.000I can't imagine what good will be done by having all, essentially all state licenses depend on whether you swear to, are you a member of an organization on the U.S.
00:50:17.000Department of State terrorist exclusion list.
00:50:20.000That's right, the cops march up and start asking you, do you swear allegiance to the Führer and the Reich?
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00:54:16.000When they do it in Miami, or Cleveland, or Austin, Texas, it'll be an illegal alien who's here from Morocco, and why he'll have brown skin.
00:54:27.000I've seen this in other parts of the country, and it'll be on the news.
00:54:29.000It'll just so happen to be a camera there with him.
00:54:56.000Just men in black masks looking around, watching everybody.
00:55:00.000Going back to our guest, who I really appreciate spending time with us, and he's Bill Purce, running for Governor in Ohio, where they're trying to pass their own little Patriot Act, their unpatriotic act.
00:55:11.000And, Bill, give us any websites or any information about how we can support you trying to run against all this.
00:55:18.000Well, the easiest is to look for purceforohio.com, and that's P-E-I-R-C-E for Ohio.
00:56:33.000It says that all state and local employees have to comply with the National Patriot Act and any federal authorities in immigration, terrorism, or executive orders of the President.
00:56:48.000So, you know, all municipalities and all state and local employees have to comply.
00:56:53.000So really, that's saying you're going, again, getting rid of the Tenth Amendment, going under federal control, and the fraudulent commander-in-chief business that Bush has been announcing, which is only for the military, when there's a declared war, well now, again, that's this federalization of local communities.
00:57:07.000Yeah, and I think the really dangerous part is that any executive order of the president You know, because lots of things become executive orders.
00:57:17.000Well, the Attorney General says that Bush is above the law and is the law.
00:57:21.000Yeah, well, that's not the way I read the Constitution, but maybe that doesn't matter anymore.
00:57:29.000Well, I mean, I think Bush, it was reported, called it a G.D.
00:57:43.000Well, the Declaration of Independence says that it's not just our right, it's our duty to abolish these forms when they become destructive of our liberty.
00:57:51.000Yeah, I hope it hasn't come to that yet, but we have to be vigilant.
00:57:56.000Well, I think we can still avert a lot of this, but I don't think it's all going to be peaceful.
00:58:15.000You know, I was hoping to run just on economic issues, which is my specialty, but of course you get into these things, you know, these become very important right away.
00:58:24.000But would you say most Ohioans are upset about this?
00:58:28.000No, I think most people haven't thought about it at all.
00:58:32.000It really hasn't received much attention in the press.
00:59:39.000I was out of the studio telling them what to post on the website, and I ran in here.
00:59:42.000And we are starting the second hour, and in the middle of this hour, we have a gentleman who heads up Corridor Watch, who's gotten the majority of the counties in Texas to stand up against the Trans-Texas Corridor and say, you ain't turning all our roads into toll roads.
00:59:57.000I mean, it takes almost every major street and highway and state road and turns them into a toll road via the transponders.
01:00:44.000And I have no doubt with some weak-minded people, all the grandstanding, going, I want to protect you from evil, Al Qaeda.
01:00:49.000And that may be the case, but overall it's not.
01:00:51.000And again, Bush is just a puppet, but people are losing faith in the titular head, in the figurehead, in the front, in the facade, in the tapestry.
01:01:02.000And they're seeing behind the curtain the little man behind it controlling it, and that is the good news.
01:02:37.000It's called Gods of War and it's just got some stuff in the song where they talk about terrorists and how the people, you know, quote, let down their nation because terrorists have struck and all this other stuff.
01:04:48.000Or watch the film right now online at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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01:07:30.000All over the country, states are attempting, and in some cases passing, and in some cases failing, on the verge of signing in Ohio, laws that are being openly called Martial Law or Gestapoland.
01:07:42.000Or, Soviet Union, these are the terms.
01:07:44.000And openly, you must answer questions, you must be shut down, you will be taken to jail, there will be federally controlled state and local teams with citizen squads under them, and we've had some of the citizen squads from Knoxville on just two days ago.
01:08:01.000And I said, so the Emergency Management Center is really federal, with a live board, tracking all cell phones, scanning our faces?
01:08:06.000Well, yes sir, that's the system, that's the plan.
01:08:09.000And he's the professor at the local college with 14 classes under him, and then he goes off and is creating cadres of these local Tattletail squads, who then go make quote, anonymous reports on crime and threats and potential terrorists.
01:08:23.000You notice, there's no real terrorists, it's all crime.
01:08:26.000And it makes me want to hyperventilate.
01:10:46.000He's trying to declare that he's a dictator!
01:10:48.000Well, the first line of the Oath of Enlistment is, I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, Foreign and domestic.
01:10:57.000And if the President wants to make himself a domestic enemy against the people, that means it is your duty as a soldier to uphold the Constitution.
01:11:05.000Well, George Washington was a highly decorated Indian fighter soldier, captain, and then colonel for the British.
01:11:13.000I guess he should have just followed the orders of the king, though, when the king was enslaving the people.
01:11:18.000See, George Washington was bad, buddy.
01:11:21.000And I happen to have video of FEMA saying he was bad, so you're a terrorist, too.
01:11:42.000I saw local news the other day, and I'm not necessarily saying there's anything sinister behind it, but they were talking about how teens and how they drive recklessly and We should now put cameras in our car to watch our kids drive.
01:11:56.000And I just thought, you know, that's kind of extreme.
01:11:59.000And we shouldn't use cash because the terrorists will get us when really it's the wireless stuff that's causing all the problems, and cash is evil, and Big Brother loves you.
01:12:08.000No, no, sir, it's all propaganda all the time.
01:12:11.000Yeah, yeah, and we need to get off this.
01:12:15.000But I mean, the fiat's better than the cashless fiat.
01:12:39.000There's literally hundreds and hundreds of editors there.
01:12:42.000And most of the local stuff you see, for some reason starting four years ago, even before 9-11 I saw this, is, I guess five years ago, satellited to them and then re-edited and sent back.
01:12:53.000And then a lot of the newscasts you see, excuse me, what they call templates or news packages.
01:12:58.000Oh hey, the corporates know what sells!
01:13:08.000One how it's the law, you've got to take vaccines.
01:13:10.000One how police are running checkpoints and getting citizens involved in helping fight by keeping their eyes open.
01:13:17.000That's why I can be at home, watch TV, see an exact newscast on ABC or CBS or ABC or whatever.
01:13:24.000I can get in a plane, fly somewhere and be in a hotel room that night and see the exact same words, exact same thing with just local names changed when I'm in L.A.
01:13:35.000Literally, I've been in Austin, seen a newscast in the morning and get to L.A.
01:13:38.000and it's the exact newscast, same affiliate.
01:13:44.000I call them federal feeds, national feeds.
01:13:48.000And so that's why, I mean every time I see a local newscast, when I saw that Mercury's Nutritious newscast, I immediately ran into Google and I typed it in.
01:13:59.000And that was on CBS locally, we have that clip on the website, and there were hundreds of them.
01:14:03.000Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Amarillo, just in Texas it was everywhere.
01:14:09.000And it was literally hundreds of links, the same newscast, the same script, it's just the same thing.
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01:16:31.000That's going to be the hot button topic.
01:16:33.000They're all gonna go, oh, we haven't been for this, oh yeah, we know this, they know we're pissed about it, they know we're upset about it.
01:16:40.000And then there's gonna be a terror attack after they get rid of it, and it was all your fault, we tried to save you by enslaving you, and... You know what, Alex?
01:16:52.000Hey, what do you think about them trying to pass us along Ohio where they shake everybody down and rogue teams are running around vipering us?
01:16:59.000All of it scares me because most of the people don't pay attention.
01:17:03.000They'd rather turn their iPod on and not listen to anybody.
01:18:02.000The education system has worked exactly.
01:18:04.000They listen when they're told to listen, and they don't question anything because they don't even know how to formulate the question.
01:18:09.000And they don't even know the economy's in shambles because the news tells them it isn't when all the indicators are we're going to hell in a handbasket.
01:18:15.000One of the first things he did when he got into office is made it so you can only collect unemployment for like nine months and then you come out of those numbers.
01:18:21.000So all the numbers that we're hearing are crap.
01:18:24.000And nobody wants to question that either.
01:18:26.000I mean, I've had two chief economists on from their own administrations.
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01:32:37.000You're there supplying power to the police.
01:32:39.000You're there in even a support role to them.
01:32:42.000And it's just so mindless, and the Feds are so uncoordinated, and want to carry out their precedent-setting event for local police and National Guard and regular Army working together, backed up by Dutch and Mexican troops, by the way, in support roles, and people out on the front lawns in front of million-dollar houses.
01:33:01.000In front of million-dollar houses, just confiscating their guns.
01:33:07.000Well, you can stay here where there's criminal gangs roaming around after we've taken your guns.
01:33:11.000Of course, there really weren't criminal gangs in most of the areas.
01:33:13.000The police were afraid of them and would run from them.
01:33:16.000That was on the news, but later, well, let's just swagger into these houses and see what we can get.
01:33:23.000And I've talked to sheriffs, I've talked to police, I've talked to emergency managers, like Thomas Sanchez, Kingsville, Vietnam Marine Corps veteran, and he's patriotic, you know, but they came into him in 99 and said, we're training for gun confiscations in America.
01:33:35.000It's part of a covert secret plan, PDD 25.
01:33:37.000They showed him a classified version, and then he came on my show and said Delta Force wants to train here, it's part of conditioning for a takeover, and I'm not going to be part of it.
01:34:10.000He's up there in the network, there in the control booth, and I told him to turn a microphone on because he made a good point during the break To me about the point of, well, why were they even made to leave to begin with?
01:34:24.000There's no reason why these people should be forced to leave in the first place.
01:34:29.000I mean, especially... Okay, granted, some of them are flooded out and it might not have been a good idea to stay, but that still was their choice.
01:34:39.000And what I don't understand is if the only reason they were there is to force them to leave, Why did they let them stay, anyway, after they took their guns?
01:34:48.000It was the guns they were after, it wasn't the people.
01:34:50.000They disarmed tens of thousands of homes.
01:35:46.000I mean, look, statistically, cops have a higher criminal rate than any other group in society, but I don't think cops should be disarmed, because most of them are good.
01:35:54.000I mean, why do we feel good when a cop's got a gun, but we freak out when a... Back when this country was free, and you didn't have any crime to speak of, everybody had guns in their cars.
01:36:10.000Scott, what do you think about all the martial law announcements at the state level now, from Oregon to Rhode Island to Ohio, passing laws for checkpoints and warrantless searches and viper teams on the streets to federally searches and local teams and tattletale squads?
01:36:49.000I know we got loaded phone lines, and for the next hour, we are honored to be joined by a gentleman who I know I'm going to be loving for if I had a chance to, in his Senate place, and it's Place 18, Texas Senate.
01:37:02.000That's basically, the Senate runs the state, the Governor's a puppet.
01:37:06.000And we are just honored to see what David Stahl is doing.
01:38:14.000I mean, it's like selling, as I said, snow cones in hell.
01:38:18.000And David Stahl really needs to get into the Senate.
01:38:21.000And everybody needs to join Corridor Watch.
01:38:24.000And a lot of these counties are passing laws, passing injunctions, passing resolutions that, no, you're not putting your... Because it will wall the town off.
01:38:37.000And Mr. Stahl, thank you for holding while I was babbling about the gun confiscation, but I know you're a patriot and you're against that as well, so thank you for coming on.
01:38:46.000Let me just ask you, side issue, what do you think of all the gun confiscation and all the things that are happening?
01:38:52.000I think it's a trend that we have in this country of surrendering our rights and privileges and liberties, and we've got to put a stop to it.
01:38:59.000That's one of the reasons that I'm If you can't beat them, join them.
01:39:04.000I'm going to run for the State Senate here and see if I can't stop the erosion of personal rights.
01:39:10.000We're guaranteed under the Constitution, which doesn't seem to count anymore.
01:39:26.000Yeah, and it goes all the way to the Gulf.
01:39:28.000Altogether 19 counties from Caldwell and Bastrop near Austin to Waller and Fort Bend near... It's similar to Ron Paul's old congressional district, isn't it?
01:39:37.000It overlaps a lot of Ron Paul's old district, yes.
01:39:41.000Well, I mean, I want to talk about your awakening, because not just your Senate run, and I'm supporting you, sir, not just your Senate run, but...
01:39:50.000How you woke up to the corridors, why you started a group, a website, how you've had phenomenal success just with their own documents.
01:39:58.000I mean, what you've done, and I'm not tooting your horn, I mean this sincerely, what you've done is a model of resistance and restoration of our Constitution.
01:40:06.000I mean, first off, tell us how you woke up, tell us what these corridors are, let's bring in the Spanish company.
01:40:11.000You know, the money, all of it, the scams, what they're going to do, and then let's talk about how we're going to fight this and how we can start corridor watches in other states where this is starting to burgeon as well.
01:40:22.000Yeah, Alex, you know, I've been involved in local government for 30 years.
01:40:25.000I was elected as a city councilman when I was 20 years old, and I felt like I was part of the establishment, and I thought I understood the Constitution, what the government was about, and how it was supposed to operate.
01:40:35.000And two years ago, I became aware of the Trans-Texas Corridor.
01:40:40.000And it was a planning document that had been adopted as an official plan of the state of Texas by the Transportation Commission, and it was adopted without any public input.
01:40:52.000This is a revenue-generating proposition.
01:40:57.000And let's point out, they're putting up the scanners and the readers and the control grids and trying to pass laws for the transponders, and no one even knows about it as it's going in.
01:41:08.000This is all being done under the radar, without public meetings, without public input, without the kind of discussion that we had in this country when we decided to do an interstate program.
01:41:52.000Yes, actually, they try to point to the interstate system as if this is just a model for this, but that's not correct at all.
01:41:58.000You know, Eisenhower fought a war, he used the autobahns, he wanted to see the same thing in this country, to move manpower and material, just as you said.
01:42:06.000And what he originally proposed was a highway that didn't go to any cities, and there was no money to build it, and it would be a toll road.
01:42:15.000But you know, there was public discussion and debate in the Senate and in the Congress of the United States, And the governors said, we can't afford to have these toll roads.
01:42:24.000It will damage our economies if people have to pay to drive to get here.
01:42:28.000So this is really just the original plan of the control grid coming to fruition?
01:42:38.000And then the mayors of the major metropolitan cities said, you'll destroy our economies if you take the traffic.
01:42:45.000I mean, anyone who buys and sells commercial real estate knows that the three most important things for the value of that real estate is location, location, and location.
01:43:21.000As a matter of fact, it will not only bypass all the small towns, But it bypasses the big towns.
01:43:27.000That's why the city of Dallas has issues with this concept.
01:43:30.000Because it's going to take away from Dallas and move that traffic even outside their county.
01:43:36.000And if that's not scary enough, the plan says that these corridors will create, quote-unquote, new cities.
01:43:45.000Now, why would you want to create a new city?
01:43:47.000You'd want to create a new city because you have absolute control over it, and you can control who makes the money from that development.
01:43:53.000And you already grabbed the real estate, just like what the railroads did with the robber barons, and they can control the land for, what, a mile or two off each side of it and sell it to their buddies.
01:44:04.000As a matter of fact, the corridor itself is a quarter mile wide, which is 465 feet wider than is required to put everything in it that they say they want to do in it in the next 50 years.
01:44:14.000That was reading about two mile buffer zones.
01:44:18.000Well, the law allows them to take unlimited land adjacent to the corridor for what they call ancillary facilities, which is the ability not just to put gas stations and fast food in like you see on turnpikes, But they put in factories and warehouses, and do all this on state land.
01:44:34.000And that's the thing about this, is that you see the Supreme Court saying, if some other financial interest, anywhere globally, Dutch, Swiss, Chinese, now happening, Spanish, wants the land, they'll pay more taxes, we'll give it to them.
01:44:45.000And by the way, with the Guest Worker Program, there's going to be a transponder in the Mexican trucks, in all these trucks, they're all going to be instantly legal, while in the corridors, they're going to be like the international zones at airports.
01:44:57.000Yes, actually, if it was just limited to that, it'd be great.
01:45:00.000You know, the Texas Legislature, this last session, attempted to require that the transponders be put in every motor vehicle inspection sticker.
01:45:12.000But that's my point, is that this is about the Pan-American Union.
01:45:15.000On their own website that we found it and pointed it out, TxDOT said it was going to merge Mexico and Canada for the American Union.
01:45:24.000Yeah, as a matter of fact, the original plan does not show how this corridor connects to, nor did they have a single discussion with, and they openly told us, they have no discussions with Louisiana, Oklahoma, or New Mexico, or Colorado, with where these corridors will tie into those states.
01:45:38.000And yet, there were three memorandums of understanding with Mexico, and the routes all the way through Mexico were part of our original plan in Texas.
01:45:50.000Sir, so you started waking up to this.
01:45:53.000Let's get into this Spanish company and what they're up to.
01:45:57.000Yeah, you know, we have some of the world's best road builders here in Texas and certainly in the United States.
01:46:05.000And yet the Texas Department of Transportation spent the largest travel amount they ever did to send their director of Turnpike Authority to Europe.
01:46:16.000To sell the Trans-Texas Corridor in Europe.
01:46:18.000Oh, and I bet he didn't get any money in his Swiss bank account.
01:46:22.000Well, he certainly took a high-dollar attorney with him.
01:46:25.000Which, by the way, wasn't even from Texas.
01:46:26.000He's from California and does international projects.
01:46:51.000- Kind of like Iraq with the no-bid contracts. - The two companies that lost that proposal don't even know why they lost it because it's still being kept a secret. - And there's been total secrecy Now, TxDOT said, there's this lie about we're using less fuel, but we've gone from 15 million barrels four or five years ago, six years ago, to 22 million barrels a day.
01:47:11.000Actually, the tax revenue is bigger than ever, state and federally.
01:47:15.000Uh, the projections are only increases.
01:47:18.000And then the TextDot document got released, what, about a year ago saying, oh, we actually have more money than we need.
01:47:23.000Why are we telling people that we're bankrupt?
01:47:26.000Well, because, and it said we have to so we can get this done for the transponders and the toll roads that are going to make us pay to merge us with Mexico.
01:47:34.000I mean, just the level of lying that is involved with these people, and then it's all in secret.
01:47:40.000And then it's been all over the news about how people on these different state boards that did it, their wives and kids get $300,000 contracts the next day from the toll companies as soon as they sign on.
01:48:14.000Well, I'll tell you what's happened is that we now have a unique situation in that the government itself and factions within the government, government entities and agencies, have become special interests.
01:48:26.000Just like we used to deal with special interests with labor unions or with large industries, now government itself, for itself, we're creating self-funding governmental entities that are becoming authorities and they have... They're mafias!
01:48:44.000It's like the old city-state where it's the noble on each hill in his castle!
01:49:28.000The things that they're doing today, before that law passed and changed the way it's done, would be commercial bribery.
01:49:35.000People would end up going to jail for negotiating business in secret and signing them in secret, where there's no public knowledge of what we're buying and what we're paying for it.
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01:55:53.000And what Mr. Stahl is doing is amazing.
01:55:55.000We're about to break Mr. Stahl, but give us a little tidbit before we get back into what these corridors will do, of just how many counties you've gotten to sign on with you, and how you got that done.
01:56:05.000Well, we've got 32 counties that the Commissioner's Courts have passed formal resolutions opposing the corridor, and we have members now in 174 of the Texas's counties.
01:56:16.000Once people learn a little bit, they want to learn more, and they discover that it's as terrible as They could possibly imagine.
01:56:24.000We're really losing our freedoms and rights, and it's time to stand up.
01:56:29.000If you value your freedoms and your liberties, it's time to stand up and make the government accountable for that.
01:56:35.000Well, the Romans said all roads lead to Rome, and they built those expensive roads, paved roads, folks, for a reason, because it gave them total control.
01:56:46.000You know, they've gone way out of their way to say they don't want to raise gasoline taxes.
01:56:49.000You know, and we have 38 and a half cent gasoline tax in Texas.
01:56:52.000That's the federal and the state component.
01:56:54.000People need to understand, these toll roads, the tolls that they're going to charge, the foreign entities are going to charge... $2.50 a gallon, right?
01:59:21.000That the state do what they want done.
01:59:25.000There's a complete disconnect between the people and the state.
01:59:27.000You know, we like to say that we'd like to have leadership, not dictatorship in Austin.
01:59:32.000But let me tell you one thing that I don't think your readers or your listeners necessarily already know, and that's the Trans-Texas Corridor is not just highways.
01:59:40.000It's not just ten vehicle lanes that'll all be tolled, but it's also six rail lines And it's also 200 feet of set-aside for underground utilities and overhead utilities.
01:59:51.000And what they want to do is concentrate and create a monopoly, by the way, operated by a foreign entity, a monopoly of infrastructure in the state of Texas.
02:00:00.000Our transportation on road and rail, the transportation of products through pipelines, and our electrical distribution system.
02:00:08.000And with that stranglehold, this corridor, We'll absolutely control infrastructure in Texas and be able to tax us in ways we have never seen before.
02:00:19.000And with no oversight, the law specifically says the state cannot set the leases, tolls, and franchise fees in the corridor.
02:00:28.000So we're giving all of that away to this foreign entity to operate here in Texas.
02:00:33.000And in a time when we're looking at homeland security and we're talking about terrorism, why is it that we want to put All our vulnerabilities in one place.
02:00:45.000Why would you put all your utilities and your rail and your transportation... Because anything centralized means they get to give it to only their buddies.
02:00:53.000Yeah, but are we really concerned about terrorism?
02:00:57.000Are we really concerned about terrorism?
02:00:58.000I've got to tell you, in local government, the state and the federal government requires you to do a vulnerability assessment on a wastewater treatment plant.
02:01:07.000We have to do a document that says how we protect our sewage treatment.
02:01:12.000And yet, we're going to put electric, gas lines, water lines, train, and highways all together and create... Well, don't worry though, we have the new Federal Viper Teams who will protect all infrastructure.
02:01:27.000I mean, have you heard of the new Viper Teams?
02:01:32.000Yes, I've heard a little bit about that.
02:02:01.000Well, when we get back, what are some of the other things you want to get into, Mr. Stahl?
02:02:05.000Well, I think that imminent domain and property rights is an incredible thing.
02:02:11.000I mean, through the use of the state power, we now have a concessionaire who can dictate where roads and facilities go with unlimited scope.
02:02:19.000And if you don't want to steal the land, they'll take it from you.
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02:06:39.000I mean, when I say Henry Kissinger wrote a document instructing the IMF and World Bank to tell third world countries to reduce their population by half or no money, there it is with sterilization.
02:07:17.000I remember Back in 1996, reading a New American Magazine article about the UN, 80-plus percent of the country off-limits to humans, corridors.
02:07:27.000Then I went and I got Kentucky state resolutions against it, where they've been fighting it.
02:07:34.000I got the actual UN documents, and they said we're going to have walled highways, super-transportation corridors.
02:07:40.000We're going to put the people down into about 10 percent of the land.
02:07:44.000I have half the land totally off limits and then like 40-something percent of the other land restricted.
02:07:49.000It came out to about 80% and you just couldn't even get on.
02:07:53.000And there's going to be all these transportation corridors and all this and we're going to have toll roads.
02:07:58.000It's all been planned and it's all given to these elite families to run.
02:08:01.000And it just deals with our governments.
02:08:30.000and in the other sustainable development programs but specifically when you go into a presentation of the yet five minutes before city council your former city councilman yourself get five minutes before mr stall about running for senate uh... place eighteen folks and you have five minutes in front of explain the layman who is dumb as dirt and have no idea what not just dumb just uninformed ever been focused in on these issues
02:08:54.000Tell us why the corridors are bad and then how do you get them to join you and then how do you begin to fight the King of Spain and the rest of them?
02:09:05.000Alright, well the first thing you need to understand is what we're trying to accomplish.
02:09:09.000I mean, what are they telling us we're trying to accomplish with the corridors?
02:09:12.000Is it a transportation project or is it a revenue project?
02:09:51.000We are abandoning Things that we believe are fundamental rights in this country and protections in the pursuit of revenue to build bigger and bigger government.
02:10:01.000Well it goes like the old days where a king would cede a region to somebody to be his little viceroy and then you have unlimited power.
02:10:28.000And now we're doing a 180 and we're going to monopolize and we're going to give a foreign entity the monopoly to operate infrastructure in Texas and to tax Texans.
02:10:38.000And the process allows an arm's length relationship so that when the thing goes south, when people wake up to what's happening to them, They can say, gee, there's nothing we can do about it.
02:10:52.000And this is that foggy thing called privatization.
02:10:55.000And privatization in its sum of what it's supposed to be would be okay.
02:11:01.000But the problem is, this isn't privatization.
02:11:03.000When a corrupt politician gets bought off by a foreign company or somebody else and says, OK, I'm going to pass an unconstitutional law to just give all the roads to you, to just set up toll roads on them.
02:11:15.000And that's just a small part of it, folks.
02:11:17.000And as you said, their own numbers say $2.50 a gallon, when you're paying $0.35 a gallon right now, a $2.50 charge per gallon in toll roads.
02:11:25.000And I saw the California numbers of over $3.50.
02:11:31.0008,000 miles of toll roads, and then they like to say, oh, we're doing this because there's no, again, gas revenue.
02:11:36.000But gas revenue is growing, and TxDOT's own documents say that.
02:11:40.000Oh yeah, and TxDOT is notorious for flat-out lying about their revenue numbers.
02:11:44.000You know, we have a biannual budget in Texas, and they project how much revenue they're going to get from gasoline tax and from registrations and from the federal government.
02:11:54.000And they underestimate that, and they don't underestimate it by a little bit.
02:11:57.000The last two years, They underestimated it by about 800 million dollars.
02:12:04.000Because then that money is off budget.
02:12:06.000If it doesn't show up as a revenue, then it looks like they're coming in short and they need more money.
02:12:11.000And then they're all bought, and then it's a whole other story about how these boards, these unelected boards, are all bought and paid for.
02:12:18.000Yeah, and you've made a reference about how Spain got involved and how that ties to government.
02:12:25.000And one interesting fact here is that the lobbyist for this Spanish company from Madrid, their lobbyist had introduced that company to the Transportation Commission and to the transportation officials in Texas.
02:12:38.000That same exact lobbyist, as soon as their proposal was submitted to the state to compete against the two domestic companies, that lobbyist went to work in this state's governor's office as his liaison for legislative affairs, his director of legislative affairs.
02:12:55.000And then, in that position in the last legislature, worked to protect all of the benefits, the rape, pillage, and plunder provisions that were granted in the last legislature, to keep those from being attacked by people who are now finding out what's going on.
02:13:09.000And so you have the company's own lobbyists working within our government, in the governor's office, to protect their interests.
02:13:17.000But as long as Rick Perry walks around in a cowboy hat, everything's okay?
02:13:21.000Yeah, well, Governor Goode here, you know, what can I say?
02:13:26.000And then again, it's in the provisions, which weren't open for bid, and that they have all secret, and lawsuits have begun, and they try to cover it up, but it's public, that they're saying that unlimited land, I read two miles on each side, where is it specifically where, you were saying it's in the provisions for unlimited land grabbing?
02:13:45.000It says that they can take adjacent land for ancillary facilities, and there is no limiting language as to how much adjacent land they can take.
02:13:54.000As a matter of fact, just recently it was reported to us that a TxDOT official confirmed to an individual at one of these meetings that once the environmental study is complete, it identifies a 10-mile wide swamp where they'll get a record of decision.
02:14:10.000And it was confirmed that, in reality, they could take up to the full 10-mile width, because that has already been... Now, specifically, Perry's saying he's going to take the existing state highways, which has most of the houses and development and property on it, so they'll just steal all that from him, and then the Supreme Court's already said go for it, and at the same time, then they're going to build all these other new roads and then expand other roads.
02:16:01.000You know, one of the freedoms that we take for granted is our freedom of movement.
02:16:05.000And what this will do is this will limit where you can move and will allow the government to track every place that you go and to charge you for it, to bill you for it.
02:16:14.000These corridors, you don't even have to travel down the corridors.
02:16:16.000It was pointed out to us, the legislation allows the operator of the corridor to charge you just to cross it.
02:17:01.000Well, you know, they're just going to squeeze it.
02:17:03.000and this same operator operates a toll road in Canada, and they got the government there in Canada, they lobbied them, and they're doing the same thing here in Texas, that if you don't pay your tolls to this private operator, they'll suspend your driver's license, they'll suspend your vehicle registration, they'll have you over a barrel.
02:17:19.000So you have government acting as a collection agency for this private contractor.
02:17:25.000Well, I mean, this is classical fascism or corporatism, In fact, if you read folks in the bill, we barely beat the transponders in the stickers, and that's how they're going to do it, and they're still building the roads.
02:17:37.000If you read that, well, I'll tell you about it when we get back.
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02:21:51.000You know, Kevin Smith, who went down and hosted Mr. Stahl down in Gonzales for a meeting we had down there for Corridor Watch, he was just informing me, I mean, Mr. Stahl's got a long bio, he's a city manager, so those people that really run cities, he's a city manager, and I asked him about the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report during the break, and he goes, yeah, I know what it is, and I don't like what I see.
02:22:13.000That's the real set of books, boys and girls, and not the budget you hear about all day.
02:22:18.000And then he's also 25 years in law enforcement.
02:23:25.000This is not the way it's supposed to work.
02:23:27.000We are circumventing all types of protections that were put into law to protect the citizens.
02:23:34.000Well they just create a new agency and then just give it unbelievable power and claim because it's private it doesn't have to follow the Constitution.
02:23:41.000Well listen, just because I'm private doesn't mean I get to commit murder.
02:23:46.000You know, the Chairman of the Transportation Commission was asked about what was innovative about this, and my wife is on the TxDOT's Citizens Advisory Group for the Transportation Commission on the Trans-Texas Corridor.
02:23:59.000And as she often says, what's innovative about roads and railroads?
02:24:03.000We've been doing that for a hundred years.
02:24:05.000And the answer was that the concessionaire does not have to follow the same rules that the state does.
02:24:41.000And they faced this billion dollar boondoggle called White Rail a couple years ago.
02:24:47.000And I noticed that not only, I mean, is that sort of stuff going to impoverish people?
02:24:51.000We all get stuck riding around in White Rail even though we don't want to.
02:24:56.000But one thing else they did, it seemed like they would, and it had nothing to do with the condition of the roads.
02:25:00.000All the horrible roads, they just leave totally untouched.
02:25:03.000But they were like, In like, certain strategic choke points, they'd also like, step up road construction, just block off the roads, and they'd never be doing anything there.
02:25:11.000So you almost like, have to go... So to be specific, I mean, the whole railway thing is a scam as well.
02:25:19.000This makes that look like child's play.
02:25:23.000And you know, this is happening around the world.
02:25:25.000It's not just in Texas, Australia, and Sydney.
02:25:27.000They built a new toll tunnel there, and then nobody knew that they were going to do this.
02:25:31.000When they opened the toll tunnel and started charging the tolls, They reduced the number of lanes that you could drive in on existing roads.
02:25:38.000They put barricades in lanes that the public was using.
02:25:41.000Folks, they're going to take existing lanes, you understand, and toll those, and then take our lanes away when they have extra money.
02:26:00.000And I see this vehicle, and I'm thinking it was like Highway Patrol or something, just parked in the median, just sitting there like watching cars passing by on I-40.
02:26:32.000All right, I'm going to try and make this fast, but I'm going to say happy holidays to everybody.
02:26:36.000But I want to talk about the NSA scandal real quick, and I'm going to run through this.
02:26:40.000It seems like there's nobody connecting the dots in the mainstream media, and I want to kind of go over something.
02:26:45.000Last week, before this story leaked, do you remember hearing about the big scandal with the Pentagon having the spreadsheets with anti-war protest groups?
02:26:53.000Yeah, it's a smokescreen for that, yeah.
02:26:55.000Exactly, so I've not seen one news channel take that story and then put it in with the whole scandal.
02:27:01.000Instead they distract with, it's okay to listen to Bin Laden's calls, isn't it?
02:27:04.000Yeah, but is it okay to have the army harassing mothers who don't want recruiters in the schools?
02:27:10.000Another thing is, the President's talking, you know, uh, here we, you know, he says, we don't have time to get Warren, you know, this stuff has got to be done now.
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02:30:54.000And I'm telling somebody who isn't backing down, it's David Stahl.
02:30:57.000There's another senator who's retiring, Armbruster, and I remember Kevin was talking about how he'd argue with Homeland Security about, you know, the Social Security card didn't to be used for personal identification.
02:31:07.000So he was a pretty good guy, but he's a Democrat.
02:31:11.000Stahl is a Republican and he'd be the great person to vote for and I hope he wins because we need good people in the state legislature to stop this trans-Texas corridor.
02:31:22.000And listen, these corridors are starting in the east, the west, the north, they're going to be all over the country.
02:31:29.000The main fight right now is in Texas, but they're putting these in everywhere.
02:31:55.000And let's go back to David in Georgia.
02:31:59.000David, finish up what you were saying real fast.
02:32:02.000Okay, I just wanted to go ahead and point out that the President's speech talking about how we can't wait for warrants In order to spy on people, the FICA or the FICA law, if you look at it, it allows them to spy immediately.
02:32:13.000They just have 72 hours after the fact to actually go in and justify the act.
02:32:18.000And then the FISA court rubber stamps, what is it, 10,000 spy ops per, per, it's blank check.
02:32:24.000They're not even going to get the blank checks.
02:32:38.000You know, when you allow yourself to be monitored that way, the scope of freedoms that can come under attack next, and you can't defend yourself, are incredible.
02:32:49.000I was just going to say, we need to do everything we can to protect our ability to object.
02:32:56.000And we can't allow government to take away our ability to object and to muzzle us.
02:33:01.000And that's what happens when they take away your weapons, and that's what happens when they take away your freedoms of speech.
02:33:10.000Well, it's happening systematically, but I've noticed something's happened.
02:33:12.000Five years ago, Mr. Stahl, a lot of people acted like I was a pariah.
02:33:16.000Now, I can stamp my fingers, get any U.S.
02:33:43.000Obviously, you're finding that with how your corridor watch is like a prairie fire right now.
02:33:50.000Yes, we've been quite amazed that we started with two people in rural Texas and we've turned into thousands and thousands of Corridor Watch members in 174 counties.
02:34:28.000Well, we've got to have you sometime in studio.
02:34:30.000I've got to have you on the TV show here in Austin because people still just don't know the full magnitude.
02:34:36.000It's hard to grasp the diabolical nature.
02:34:39.000Kevin Smith, you really researched this and you were hosting the event in Gonzales that Mr. Stahl was nice enough to come to.
02:34:47.000It was a great honor to do that, Alex, and I've paid a lot of attention to this issue lately.
02:34:51.000We have the Austin Toll Party that's become the Texas Toll Party, Blackland Prairie Coalition, many groups, and when you go to these Campo board meetings here in Central Texas, there'll be 20 plus representatives, usually representatives from other counties that you can't vote out, or appointees by text dot, And they will look at you straight-faced, and it seems like the unwashed masses are on their game.
02:35:20.000And what I was saying out there in Gonzales the other night is that, look, the big money has already come into the state capital of Austin, Texas.
02:35:29.000When you drive around Austin, you'll notice in the concrete and asphalt that there's these little octagon-shaped cut-out patches in the road.
02:35:39.000They haven't told us about it yet, but they've already put that infrastructure in, and they're doing the boil the frog in the pot.
02:35:45.000If they tell us what they've got planned right now, we'd rebel.
02:35:48.000So it's incrementalism, and I said the fight on this is in the rural counties.
02:35:54.000Even if the county commissioners and county judges are crooks, even if they spent a hundred years of their family amassing wealth, They're not going to stand by and let some... That's what I said on the radio last week, is that Boss Hogg and good ol' boy stuff is wonderful compared to this.
02:36:08.000And Boss Hogg's going to go, you're going to make all my land worthless?
02:36:38.000But notice, sir, that the mainstream media just acts like everybody loves it, and it's wonderful, and it's good, and oh, it's so happy, and we're bankrupt!
02:36:49.000Yes, they're buying everything that the tech dot is selling, and it's really a shame, and that's why people have to look for themselves.
02:36:56.000It's amazing to me just how the mainstream media sidesteps it and is happy to take the fluff that's handed out When there's no substance behind it.
02:37:05.000There's just some bald-faced lies that come out, wrapped as a press release.
02:37:08.000Sir, as you get more powerful, as your group reaches people in other states, as you're already doing, I mean obviously you're not, I mean I think you're for real, I can tell you're for real, but you know you're going to get offers.
02:38:26.000You know, I hear some numbers kicked around locally that, oh, Rick Perry's taken a million dollars from this highway consortium in, you know, campaign financing.
02:38:34.000And I, I mean, I'm just going to go on the record right now, and I'm going to say it, that is ridiculous.
02:38:38.000You people need to get up to speed, and you're living in a la-la land.
02:38:41.000I mean, a million sounds like something, but when you're in the process of looting this state and country for billions, if not trillions in the future, The payoff isn't a million dollars.
02:40:45.000And despite saying they were going to release it, they didn't.
02:40:49.000And the Houston Chronicle made an open records request, and rather than release the information, they asked for an Attorney General's opinion, and made the claim, TxOT made the claim, that it was proprietary information and couldn't be released.
02:41:01.000The Attorney General of Texas said, it's a public document, release it.
02:41:06.000TxOT said, well, we're not going to buck the Attorney General.
02:41:11.000The Texas Department of Transportation is suing the Texas Attorney General to keep from releasing it.
02:41:17.000And here we are in December for an agreement that was signed last March, and those 200 pages are still secret and have not been released to the public.
02:41:25.000Meanwhile, they're negotiating... And they're going to give away, literally, folks, all the premium real estate in the state.
02:41:31.000We're talking trillions and trillions here.
02:41:32.000This is like Iraq War-level scams, okay?
02:41:36.000They're going to give it all away, and then we're not even allowed to look at it.
02:41:43.000Alright, well let's take one more final call and our guest has got to go here in about a minute and a half.
02:41:46.000Let's go ahead and talk to Randy in Virginia.
02:41:51.000Randy, you're on the air and then we'll go to Nathaniel and Keith and everybody else, but go ahead Randy.
02:41:56.000Alex, I appreciate you taking my call.
02:41:58.000Kind of interesting, I was talking to my mother last night about the things that are kind of coming on here in America and she was saying, well how can they, you know, how can they send out cops to get your guns and do all this stuff?
02:42:10.000You know, they don't have that many cops.
02:42:11.000And I said, well, all we have to do is close the roads down, you know, and you're stuck in your city, in your house, and, you know, with the coming biometric stuff, you know, you won't be able to shop anyway.
02:42:21.000So I said, you know, you're basically going to be a prisoner in your own little neighborhood or city or whatever, not able to go anywhere.
02:42:28.000But I wanted to ask your opinion on something.
02:42:31.000You know, do you think that maybe we're going to have some sort of revolution here in the United States to where Certain states will kind of go along with the New World Order, and certain states won't.
02:42:42.000I think that's almost one of their plans, but it could also be on our side, too.
02:43:19.000And the water is heating up faster than I think anybody recognizes.
02:43:24.000One of the really shocking things is that we visited with the legislature over the last two years is how many of our own elected officials were completely clueless as to what the Trans-Sexus Corridor was really about.
02:43:35.000And, you know, at first they wanted to say, well, we didn't know what we were talking about.
02:43:43.000And we hand them their own documents from their own agencies, and it's in black and white, exactly what we're saying, and they're shocked.
02:43:51.000And a few have stood up and have taken action.
02:43:53.000But most of them say, I already took the money, so what am I supposed to do?
02:43:57.000Yeah, well, you know, there's some reality to that.
02:43:59.000That's one of the things that really concerns us.
02:44:01.000It's kind of the same mentality you have at an auction.
02:44:04.000Once you make a bid and you get the process started, You don't want to back away from it, and I'm afraid that that's the direction that our state's headed as well.
02:44:12.000They have six oligarchs, and they've gone into complete fascism, and they just said, you know, the six oligarchs were told by big money, you know, just start bidding, and they just sold Russia off.
02:45:34.000Yeah, so, you know, I don't have a lot of hope that a whole lot of good is going to happen really in Virginia if things just continue the way it's going.
02:45:42.000Because like we have all the spooks here up north in Virginia, so things are going to kind of follow that direction.
02:45:48.000Let me ask you, have you ever heard of an old military operation, I think it was called Operation Dragon Head, and what that was, they had it here in Danville, Virginia, where I live, called Operation Danville, where the military came in and there was a mock takeover Uh, it's on DVD in the public library.
02:46:53.000And to hear a person like David Stahl just go out there and get one issue and attack it, and just sink his teeth into it, and it's playing so well out in the sticks.
02:47:01.000I mean, these rural people that depend on the land, you know, fuel prices crush these guys when they have to ship their goods to and forth.
02:47:08.000And we talked about earlier, you know, the interstate highway system is what really got this country's economy to boom.
02:47:14.000And we need to look at a model that happened back in the late 1800s when we had an agrarian populist revolt.
02:47:21.000I mean, the railroad barons, the corrupt corporations were squeezing these farmers, and they walked door to door for a dollar donation, which was a lot of money back then, and they created this groundswell movement, and that's what gave us the Sherman antitrust laws.
02:47:35.000That's what got a lot of the populist things put into some of the mainstream political parties' platforms, and that's what we've got to do again.
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02:52:31.000I told you a while back that it was your speech about, you know, remember the Alamo?
02:52:37.000You may give us a bloody nose, and you're talking about the violence down on the border and everything.
02:52:40.000That's what got me off of the couch from being a couch potato Jew that did that, and I'm I'm proud to be a native from Gonzales now from what's going on down there and I'm proud to see this small community that there's people that are taking an active stance and things down there.
02:54:19.000They're even on the country roads, on the state roads, county roads.
02:54:25.000Like every three miles, something like that.
02:54:26.000That's because Chicago has the International Corridor, goes from Southern Mexico in the first phase right up into Chicago, and it splits off and goes over into Minnesota.