Larry Silverstein has now gone public with a ridiculously simple and flimsy excuse for his statements on PBS television about giving the order to have the building pulled. Alex Jones plays a clip from the same documentary where it shows them demolishing other buildings later that had not completely imploded and as they say they were getting ready to pull Building 6.
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00:00:42.000It is the fifth day of January 2006, and we're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:00:54.000Larry Silverstein has now gone public, at least through the government he has, With a ridiculously simple and flimsy excuse for his statements on PBS television about giving the order to have the building pulled, which is the demolition definition or terminology for imploding or a controlled demolition.
00:01:24.000The controlled destruction of a building.
00:01:26.000So, coming up in this hour, I am going to play the clip of Silverstein.
00:02:51.000We're going to go back over this, but I'll tell you what he has to say.
00:02:55.000And he has done this through one of the surrogate groups in the executive branch of the federal government that has been actively demonizing myself and many others in the past.
00:03:07.000Silverstein answers WTC7 building charges, says Pullet meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building.
00:03:16.000FEMA's own report says that, even Popular Mechanics' own hit piece against it says that.
00:03:22.000The New York Fire Department says that, that they had been out since Giuliani was told to evacuate in the morning because, quote, the towers are going to come down.
00:03:34.000Oh, by the way, I told you, Scott, to pull the three clips of Silverstein saying, blow it, pull it, and then the same documentary describing pull it as meaning demolition, and then Dan Rather saying it looks like dynamite to bring the building down.
00:03:49.000See if that, in that whole plethora of clips you've got, see if you can find, it's been a while, probably six months since we've played this, there's also Giuliani.
00:04:00.000And if you go to our WTC7 section on Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com, in our whole analysis page, there's probably about 75 links on there to audio and video and firefighters saying bombs were in there.
00:04:13.000See if you can find that clip where it's Giuliani talking about getting the warning to leave the building.
00:04:18.000Oh yeah, and find the edited clip we've got.
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00:08:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:23.000I'm sure a lot of you have heard the fake conservative neocon talk shows out there.
00:08:33.000Talking about how yesterday in France, hundreds of French commuters on a train had a large gang of North African hoodlums robbing them and attempting to rape them.
00:08:50.000And this was all caught on tape, of course, and the big police state, France, can't keep their citizens safe, and they've predominantly confiscated their guns.
00:08:59.000I mean, imagine in a free society with a concealed carry here in Texas, if you went on a train trying to rape people, I mean, guaranteed, you'd get your head blown off real fast if there wasn't already police on board that train.
00:09:12.000But, now the neocons Can get up on the radio and say, see, all Muslims want to kill us.
00:09:33.000Well, okay, let's just say that's true.
00:09:35.000It's not true, but let's just say it's true.
00:09:38.000I don't want to hear about how we've got to stay behind the war in Iraq, and how we've got to beat them over there instead of over here, and how they're this ultimate threat when Bush is bringing in record levels of Middle Eastern and Central Asian immigrants to this country, both low-tech and high-tech.
00:10:01.000Now, quite frankly, To get down to brass tacks on this situation, there are some Muslim groups that really do want to jihad, that really do want to quote take over the world and proselytize.
00:10:24.000But at the same time, even most, quote, Muslim nations allow and leave Christians and Jews alone.
00:10:30.000Take Iran, a huge Jewish population, a huge Christian population.
00:10:34.000They've even got Zoroastrians, you know, an ancient dog-worshipping and star-worshipping cult.
00:10:41.000I'm not kidding, that's what they worship.
00:10:44.000And, I guess there's worse things to worship.
00:10:47.000I'm being sarcastic, I like dogs, but I sure wouldn't worship them.
00:11:14.000And he admitted that our government helped radicalize Islam in the fifties and sixties.
00:11:18.000He admitted our government carried out terrorist attacks to blame it on leaders of Islamic countries that were not Islamicist, who were really pro-Western.
00:11:28.000Now, I talked about Mosaddegh and how our government carried out terror bombings to blame it on him.
00:11:33.000And the CIA commander, that's what MSNBC calls him, said, yes, it's true.
00:11:41.000So, This threat, whether it's real, or manufactured, or partially manufactured, and still there's some real threat there, it's only being exacerbated.
00:11:54.000You see, the very people that get on the air, I heard Neil Borch driving in this morning, the very people that get on the air and say, all the muzzles want to kill us, it's a jihad, we gotta get them.
00:12:08.000But he'll never go further and say, oh, by the way, Bush is a piece of filth, For having our borders totally wide open and bringing in record levels of immigrants from every corner of the planet.
00:12:20.000Or that Bush has openly, that's openly, ordered our own intelligence agencies and the CIA and FBI, I mean there's hundreds of articles about this, scores of instances of it, It's been covered from every angle to, quote, leave the Al-Qaeda network alone, to, oh, you're the dean of the Defense Language School.
00:12:46.000You don't like it that you're training people that you think are terrorists.
00:12:51.000Well, they're government operatives, and you're going to give them the top-secret training, Mohammed Adda and others.
00:12:56.000I mean, that's the Defense Language School dean, Monterey, California, teaching classes, complaining before, quietly, and then after, and saying in the newspaper, and the San Jose Mercury News that quote, our government was behind 9-11 and remember you never heard from him again.
00:13:16.000And the same terrorists, who were really government agents, were trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station.
00:13:22.000They were trained in many other different forms of espionage when they were trying to come back into the U.S.
00:13:31.000embassies were trying to block them from their Malaysian and other summits in Saudi Arabia The heads of the embassies, we've interviewed several of them, were told leave them alone.
00:13:46.000It's their cover that they're terrorists.
00:13:48.000So we have it in concrete that even the supposed hijackers were clearly trained U.S.
00:13:58.000spies of criminal elements that are in control of our government.
00:14:05.000And so when you hear about Muslim gangs On a train, after a month-long orgy of burning and beating people up, and it was racial, it was sectarian, that's how humans operate.
00:15:22.000It's not even that I'm against the Rose Bowl or UT's fabulous win yesterday.
00:15:28.000In and of itself, it's just that I know it is a psychological tool of control.
00:15:36.000And last night, well, before I get into the Rose Bowl, let me just go back and what happened in downtown Austin last night that I was a witness to, unfortunately.
00:15:50.000Back to the Michael Savages and the Boardsters of the World.
00:15:54.000They'll tell you all about the Muslims, and then tell you the solution is going over there and attacking their countries and killing them and going after them.
00:16:00.000Well, there's several problems with that on the surface, but then they leave out of the equation, half of the equation or more, that our own government has helped radicalize the Muslims, helped put them into power, the more radical elements, and helped stir them up, and is bringing them in at record levels.
00:16:21.000We look at Iraq with Saddam Hussein, who was a secular leader, where had more freedom for Christians and Jews and other groups than any other country in the Middle East or Central Asia.
00:16:36.000Just absolute freedom compared to other countries.
00:16:40.000Sixty percent, back in 1990 numbers, of the people graduating were women, including doctors.
00:16:58.000Israel said the plan is to have the Americans go in, break it up in three or four different parts, and have different Islamist sects over different sectors.
00:17:08.000Have the Kurds, have the Shiites, maybe have two different groups of Shiites, have the Sunnis, And then have a weak central government, and just control the pipelines in the region, and then use it as a military base to invade Iran and Syria.
00:17:24.000And then you read the PNAC documents of 2000, the particular Rebuilding America's Defenses, September 19th document, September 20th, excuse me.
00:17:56.000They are, they are, the most radical elements are taking over and our government just thinks it's absolutely wonderful.
00:18:02.000Folks, it was all designed, and, oh, you don't believe me?
00:18:07.000Just type P2, that's just the letter P, and then the number 2, not T-W-O, just P, the number 2, O, G. P-2-O-G.
00:18:24.000And you'll get EPI, AP, Pentagon documents, you'll get it all.
00:18:31.000Where they say Rumsfeld has six billion bucks a year funded to actually create terrorists and to stir them up and to kill innocent Muslims to get them to attack us.
00:18:41.000That's their one big desire other than confiscating our guns or domestically and bankrupting us and taking our pension funds.
00:19:00.000You can deny reality all day and stick your head in the Rose Bowl, it isn't going away.
00:19:04.000And really, that's why I got upset last night.
00:19:07.000I got off the TV about 9, did some work at the studio until about 10.
00:19:10.000A friend of mine is moving to Los Angeles, plus we had some business to discuss, so I was up in his high-rise apartment with he and his girlfriend, helping him move some heavier stuff that she couldn't help him move.
00:19:23.000And I'm up there, and he's a Hollywood producer, he's a producer at Penthouse.
00:19:29.000And I'm up there moving the stuff around with him.
00:19:32.000He's just getting ready for the movers that are coming in a couple days.
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00:24:00.000All right, what's coming up is I'm going to play this David Letterman piece where he attacks Bill O'Reilly.
00:24:16.000And, frankly, this is a total shell operation.
00:24:19.000I mean, David Letterman, who I happen to like, by the way, I think he's very talented, very funny guy, still is not in the position as the most powerful comedian in America with the biggest audience for one of those nightly shows, late shows, out there because he's stupid.
00:24:36.000And so he attacks O'Reilly but creates a false paradigm and really shifts people into a controlled box.
00:24:46.000And so he may be doing it on purpose, I tend to think he is, or at the same time he may just be regurgitating.
00:24:53.000The false political map that he's been given through the mainstream news.
00:24:58.000But it's also somewhat entertaining and O'Reilly was squirming in his chair.
00:25:27.000You know, the time that Stanley Hilton, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, that was suing the government for involvement in 9-11, back before it was popular and cool, three years ago, you can see a clip of that in Masters of Terror, one of my better films, He's on Hannity and Combs, and Hannity would not let him talk.
00:25:50.000I mean, he just... Hannity talked the entire time.
00:25:52.000He literally couldn't get three words out edgewise, and he put a clip of that in the film.
00:25:59.000We'll cover all that and get into the latest major Larry Silverstein developments concerning the controlled demolition of Building 7 and Tower 1 and 2.
00:26:08.000He's now, finally, three years into our expose of him trying to spin it.
00:26:15.000Working with the State Department of all groups.
00:26:17.000But before we do that, last night I was helping a friend move, and he lives downtown.
00:26:25.000And quite frankly, the game was on in the background.
00:26:30.000And just because there's such mindless worship of UT, and because it's such a distraction, I was jokingly rooting for USC.
00:26:40.000But when we had it on the background, and we were talking shop, talking about the New World Order, talking about mind control, and then the game ended.
00:26:48.000And within about two minutes, you started hearing beep, beep, beep, beep, and started hearing a roar.
00:27:25.000It's a Masonic-style tower, but also it's where, back in the early 60s, the famous Marine Corps sniper went up there and shot a whole bunch of people.
00:27:34.000So I call it the Tower of Death, Cirith Ungul, and so it turned red, as they do whenever there's a championship won, and then you can hear the screaming from a mile away, much louder than the screaming right down below, And then for about another 30 minutes, I left and drove home.
00:27:56.000You know, I was down at Hellbent and Peck, and I'm driving home, having to navigate the screaming, the yelling, the hook-em-horns, and they were running through the streets as I was walking to the parking meter of my car, and they were doing hook-em-horns, hook-em-horns, and I wouldn't hook-em-horns back, and they looked crazed and didn't know why, just running past me mindlessly.
00:28:18.000And then I thought about, When Andrew Jackson beat the British, beat Lord Wellington's force that had never been defeated, not by Napoleon, not by the Indians of India, not by any force, Lord Wellington had beaten numbers 3, 4, 5, in some cases, in one battle in India about 10 times his number.
00:28:39.000I said on TV last night, like 6 times, actually 10 times I looked it up.
00:28:43.000And you know, modern army with German commanders with bigger cannons than he had.
00:28:47.000Well, they came to meet Andrew Jackson, old hickory, Brigadier General Jackson.
00:28:53.000The country song calls him Colonel Jackson, but that was his nickname.
00:28:57.000And the people did come out and yell and scream and beat drums and celebrate all over the country when we won a major victory against those that want to enslave us.
00:29:07.000But no, you'll never hear that, you'll never see that, you'll never see... I mean, listen, if we threw the Federal Reserve out, if the people knew what was good for them and what to celebrate, there should be ten days of celebration and rolling around screaming in delight on the ground.
00:29:25.000Because that would be real, that would be a real victory.
00:29:27.000But we have this surrogate warfare, this surrogate tribalism that just isn't real.
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00:33:57.000More, another station in Illinois, another station in Missouri, just we're getting a lot of new affiliates right now and it's really exciting and the stations just get bigger and bigger and better because what we're talking about is just getting more and more mainstream.
00:34:17.000I mean, you tune in five years ago and Alex Jones was talking about the NSA spying on you, and FEMA camps, and torture, and how they're training the military to torture, and how they're training to confiscate your guns.
00:34:29.000And now, it's really just becoming accepted and mainstream.
00:34:35.000So, in a way, as the New World War gets more and more along in its plans, it's easier for us to wake people up.
00:34:43.000I mean, frankly, I don't like being a trailblazer.
00:34:48.000But now that the enemy is showing their hand, it's getting a lot easier.
00:34:52.000The scary things we talk about are public enough now that it's more and more kosher to carry this broadcast.
00:35:01.000We're going to play this David Letterman clip from two nights ago here in just a minute or so, and then I'll get into Larry Silverstein and some big new developments there, and then also some great news in New Hampshire.
00:35:12.000They're about to pass a law, it looks like it will probably pass, banning gun confiscation, banning illegal search and seizure during a disaster, and saying that it's a felony.
00:35:23.000Now, really, it's already on the books that it's a felony.
00:35:26.000It's like these politicians don't know what the laws are.
00:35:31.000But, simply that New Hampshire, oh by the way, I saw an article, Arizona's talking about reintroducing that law from five years ago, where quote of the government begins gun confiscations or declares a new world order, they'll secede, well that's now being brought forward again.
00:35:45.000So, a lot of different things are happening right now, so that's some good news as well.
00:35:53.000Former presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party, Michael Vadnarik, joining us in studio, coming up in about 25 minutes.
00:36:03.000And then in the third hour, we are working on getting one of those state reps home from New Hampshire fighting the gun confiscation.
00:36:12.000You see, in the past we told you they were coming for your guns, and now there's legislatures introducing laws to stop the feds from taking your guns.
00:36:20.000You see, that's how real the threat is.
00:36:21.000This is really what they're trying to do.
00:36:24.000You don't think they train the military and tell them it's for America over and over again for decades for nothing, do you?
00:36:32.000While you're busy worrying about Muslims, you know, Nosferatu-ing you, meanwhile the New World Order is the real threat, ladies and gentlemen.
00:36:44.000Now listen to this clip we're about to play of David Letterman and Bill O'Reilly two nights ago.
00:36:49.000Listen to it carefully, because you think that David Letterman is attacking O'Reilly, and he certainly stands up to the arrogant sop who, again, is not a conservative, folks, and is very dishonest.
00:37:05.000That's been proven extremely so, and a bullet to boot.
00:37:09.000And he thinks that SUVs should be banned, or there should be a tax on them, and that all militia members should be put in camps.
00:37:15.000So, I mean, I've heard him, I've seen him say it, so I'm tired of hearing it.
00:37:20.000Basically, he speaks at a very low-grade moron level, and he acts very confident, so that fools a lot of people.
00:40:20.000But it is fun to see O'Reilly get put in his place, though Letterman did it in a more gentlemanly fashion, because he's obviously got about five times the intellect of Mr. Bully Boy.
00:40:31.000And then he makes this comment about how, oh, I'm sure you're smarter than I am, but it just seems to me about 60% of what you say is baloney.
00:42:24.000Cindy, she lost her son, a professional soldier in Iraq, correct?
00:42:28.000She has a right to grieve any way she wants.
00:42:30.000She has a right to say whatever she wants.
00:42:32.000When she says to the public, That the insurgents and terrorists are freedom fighters.
00:42:37.000How do you think, David Letterman, that makes people who've lost loved ones, by these people blowing the hell out of them, how do you think they feel?
00:43:36.000However, however, that does not eliminate the legitimate speculation and concern and questioning of why the hell are we there to begin with?
00:43:44.000If you want to question that and then revamp an intelligence agency that's obviously flawed, the CIA, okay?
00:43:53.000But remember, M16 in Britain said the same thing.
00:43:57.000Putin's people in Russia said the same thing, and so did Mubarak's intelligence agency in Egypt.
00:44:01.000They all make it alright that the intelligence across the board makes it alright that we're there?
00:44:07.000I'm very concerned about people like yourself who don't have nothing but endless sympathy for a woman like Cindy Sheehan.
00:44:29.000no way a terrorist who blows up women and children gonna be called a freedom fighter on my program i'm not smart enough to debate you point to point on this but i have the feeling i have the feeling about that i have to do it about sixty percent of what you say is crap Okay, so we're done with that clip.
00:44:57.000Now, if you listen to that clip, you notice that they talk about mistakes at the CIA.
00:45:04.000They talk about how it was the CIA that did it.
00:45:07.000Number one, Dick Cheney made, what, 12 trips to the CIA.
00:45:13.000I mean, a vice president might visit the CIA once during an administration for a press conference or to thank them, but I mean, he was there.
00:45:21.000And openly ordering them to produce false intelligence.
00:45:28.000And they wouldn't do it, so they created their own little intelligence group within the CIA that reported it to the Vice President.
00:45:35.000And they had another group reporting, a group of neocons intimately connected with war profiteering in the Pentagon, who would all basically get told what to say by Dick Cheney and the indicted Scooter Libby.
00:45:46.000And then they would then churn that back out to the media.
00:45:50.000So, number one, the CIA lied on purpose.
00:45:53.000Number two, it wasn't the general CIA that did it, but a compartmentalized group of shysters.
00:46:57.000More torture, more rape rooms than Saddam ever dreamed of, more dead, more power being off, universities shut down, you know, rationing of food.
00:47:30.000Let's get into Larry Silverstein right now.
00:47:32.000This is a great article written by Paul Joseph Watson.
00:47:36.000Silverstein answered WTC Building 7 charges.
00:47:39.000Says, Pullet meant to evacuate firefighters, but there were no firefighters in the building.
00:47:45.000After nearly two years of steadfast silence, Silverstein Properties have finally responded to questions about what Larry Silverstein meant when he told PBS documentary The WTC7 building was pulled in the late afternoon of September 11, 2001.
00:48:02.000Building 7 occupied a city block immediately north of the World Trade Center complex.
00:48:07.000Photos taken minutes before its collapse showed small fires.
00:48:10.000On two or three floors, Building 7 became only the third steel building in history, before or since 9-11, to collapse from fire damage.
00:48:19.000The other two are the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center.
00:48:22.000Any building that was not owned by Silverstein Properties strangely remained upright.
00:48:27.000Photo and video evidence of the collapse shows classic indications of how a controlled demolition, the standard crimp in the center left top of the building, and the subsequent squibs or squips of smoke as it collapses clearly represent Explosive demolition.
00:49:00.000For CBS News, said that the collapse was reminiscent of those pictures we all saw too much of on television before.
00:49:06.000Where a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
00:49:14.000And then you can also click on the website for about a 30-minute analysis I did personally of it on TV.
00:49:19.000Questions about the highly suspicious nature of the building collapse remained comparatively mute until January 2004 when PBS documentary America Rebuilds, originally broadcast in September 2002, received attention across the internet.
00:49:32.000The documentary was made infamous for one comment made by Larry Silverstein on the subject of 9-1-1.
00:49:38.000Silverstein states, I remember getting a call from the Air and Fire Department telling me that they were not sure they could save the building.
00:49:44.000We're going to be able to contain the fire and I said, that's a misquote, let me just, let me just, why read it?
00:49:52.000And then the next clip is that we know that pull it means to bring down a building.
00:49:57.000Because we have a clip from the same show, where a month later they're destroying the buildings that didn't collapse or fall, and they go, getting ready to pull Building 6, and then it cuts to a guy going, when we destroy a building with a controlled demolition, we do this, and he explains that that's what pull it means.
00:50:18.000But, you know, I'm trying to hurry through this, and I'm going to end up not having time to do it, because we have a guest coming up, but let me just attempt to here.
00:50:28.000For the following year and a half, the Internet and alternative talk of radio was aflame with talk of Building 7 and Silverstein's apparent admission.
00:50:35.000For many, it is now the central issue of 9-11.
00:50:37.000In June of 2005, this website reported Silverstein's only response to date.
00:50:42.000It was an ambiguous comment made to the New York Post journalist Sam Smith.
00:50:45.000Silverstein told Smith that he meant something else by pullet comment, but mysteriously refused to elaborate any further.
00:50:53.000Silverstein Properties has finally provided a detailed explanation of what Silverstein meant about Building 7 being pulled.
00:50:59.000We'll tell you about that when we get back.
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00:54:10.000Coming up in about 10 minutes, we're going to have Michael Bachnerik, who had a really good campaign against the Republican and Democratic candidates as a presidential candidate back in the 2004 election.
00:54:23.000He's running against Michael McCaul, the dark horse who appeared out of Tom DeLay's bizarre redistricting, and won here in Austin, Texas, and in the rest of his district, stretching up into Williamson County and south of us.
00:54:40.000And I certainly will be supporting Michael Bagnerik against Mr. Michael McCaul, so that is really exciting.
00:54:46.000He'll be with us for the full next hour, but I'm going to get in and talk about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, for people that don't know him.
00:54:51.000He's really an expert on that, and I think that's more of a compelling reason to vote for him than to hear all of his policies here locally.
00:54:58.000I mean, if you're a constitutionalist, then you know automatically that they're going to follow the right policy, but we'll give Michael Bagnerik a chance to talk about some of that as well.
00:55:05.000But it'd be good to have another Ron Paul up there in Congress.
00:55:08.000That would be Two of them from Texas, the dynamic duo.
00:55:13.000We'll have to see if he'd be as good as Ron Paul, but I'd take something close to Ron Paul.
00:55:18.000It would be wonderful, of course, if Ron Paul were a guest with us monthly here on the air.
00:55:24.000He has finally, after years of not talking, come out.
00:55:31.000And Silverstein Properties are now saying, through the State Department, the same group that's demonized this show and others on this network, as part of their pathetic efforts to debunk 9-11 research, has posted the response from Silverstein's spokesperson, Dara McQuillan, has posted the response from Silverstein's spokesperson, Dara McQuillan, on its website, It reads as follows.
00:55:54.000Seven World Trade Center collapsed at 5.20 p.m.
00:55:57.000on September 11, 2001, after burning for seven hours.
00:56:01.000There were no serious casualties thanks to the heroism of the fire department and the work of Silverstein Properties employees who evacuated tenants from the building.
00:56:11.000The Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA, conducted a thorough investigation of the collapse of all the World Trade Center buildings.
00:56:18.000The FEMA report concluded that the collapse of World Trade Center 7 was a direct result of fires triggered by debris from the World Trade Center Tower 1.
00:56:29.000Break that down in the third hour and disprove all of that.
00:56:31.000We're going to go back into this in the third hour.
00:56:32.000On the afternoon of September 11th, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the fire department commander on the site of 7 World Trade Center.
00:56:39.000The commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires.
00:56:44.000Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including if necessary, to have them withdrawn from the building.
00:56:53.000Later in the day, the fire commander ordered his firefighters out of the building.
00:56:59.000No lives were lost at 7 World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
00:57:05.000The State Department website then comments, as noted above, Mr. Silverstein was recounting these events for a television documentary.
00:57:11.000He stated, I said, you know, he has a terrible loss of life.
00:57:15.000Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
00:57:17.000Mr. McQuillan has stated that by it, Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building.
00:57:24.000The insurmountable problem with this explanation of Silverstein's statement is that there was no firefighters inside WTC7.
00:57:32.000Dr. Sham Sunder of the National Institutes of Standards and Technologies, NIST, which investigated the collapse of WTC7, is quoted by Popular Mechanics in their own hit piece against us, as saying there were no firefighters in WTC-7.
00:57:46.000The FEMA report on the collapse of May 2002 also says about WTC-7 collapse, no manual firefighting operations were taken by the FBI ever, period.
00:57:56.000And it's got a bunch of other quotes here.
00:58:01.000But before we end this hour, play the Silverstein clip, please.
00:58:04.000Play him saying we gave the order to pull it.
00:58:07.000I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they were going to be able to contain the fire.
00:58:13.000I said, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
00:58:18.000Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000Alright, for stations that are just joining us in the last hour, we'll talk about a host of issues, including Larry Silverstein through the State Department.
00:59:25.000Isn't that fitting through the known CIA echelon.
00:59:30.000I mean, the State Department's even really above that.
00:59:34.000But through the highest runes of power in the federal government, Larry Silverstein, the owner of the World Trade Center complex, where a mysterious implosion of three buildings, never before happened, never happened since, he now, years after we've exposed him, years after he slipped up on TV and said that he blew up the building, he said, we pulled it.
00:59:56.000And the firefighters are on record saying that as well.
01:00:04.000Saying that there were clearly bombs in the buildings.
01:00:06.000And all of that evidence, I've made whole films about it.
01:00:16.000The New York Fire Department says, the federal government says, the different agencies that studied the collapse have all said in their reports, firefighters never attempted to put the fires out.
01:02:14.000For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
01:03:02.000We have to be very careful how we demolish Building 6.
01:03:05.000We were worried about the Building 6 coming down and then damaging the slurry wall, so we wanted that particular building to fall within a certain area.
01:03:15.000And so then they go on to brag how they blew it up just right, and they call it pulling it.
01:03:19.000And in the Dictionary of Engineering and Controlled Demolition, pulling means a controlled demolition.
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01:07:06.000All right, coming up in the next hour, I want to get into New Hampshire.
01:07:10.000They're moving to pass state laws to bar gun confiscation by the federal or local governments in the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans with the federal gun confiscation operation led by the U.S.
01:07:24.000We'll also get into Larry Silverstein to the State Department responding to his comments about destroying WTC7 with controlled demolition with a classic pullet.
01:07:38.000So we will get into those huge revelations.
01:07:40.000Also, Errol Sharon is in critical condition right now from a second massive stroke.
01:07:47.000Also has a hole in his heart and is really playing to life right now.
01:07:50.000The 77-year-old hard-charging old war chieftain is holding on by his fingernails.
01:07:58.000And some researchers, like Barry Hamish, who's really proven to be very accurate in the past, one of our Israeli friends, says it looks like it may be foul play.
01:08:06.000Though I can imagine being overweight at 77 years old and running around working 16 hours a day would also kill you.
01:08:14.000I am really honored to have Michael Bagnerik in studio with us for several reasons.
01:08:20.000I've known Michael, I guess, about eight, nine years, and he's really been involved in local politics.
01:08:25.000He's helped teach Constitution classes for free.
01:08:28.000He really knows the Constitution, Bill of Rights.
01:08:31.000He's done a lot of different local TV shows, radio shows.
01:08:35.000He's helped a lot of people that have had trouble with the corrupt government and the police being out of control.
01:08:42.000And then, he came from nowhere, really, just on his eloquence and his understanding of our form of government, and was able to beat out some formidable opponents for a highly contested libertarian presidential nomination.
01:08:58.000I mean, this is the guts of what Americana is all about.
01:09:03.000I mean, I'm almost calling Jacksonian in that, you know, this guy, grassroots coming from nowhere, and he really injected a lot of important information into the national debate.
01:09:13.000And the Libertarian Party really is the only real third party, the only serious one that doesn't, you know, flash in the pan or comment across the night.
01:09:22.000I agree with most of the policies and views of the Libertarian Party.
01:09:26.000I'm more of a conservative Libertarian if you had to use the popular lexicon's terms.
01:09:31.000I don't think terms are too wide to ever be able to really name an individual with all the diversity.
01:09:37.000But he's now running against one of the worst congressmen there is, who was literally installed, and that's Michael McCaul.
01:09:45.000Who, of course, is married to the owner of Clear Channel's daughter, and who just so happens to own the voting machines, but we're not going to get off into all that today.
01:09:53.000And he's right here running for District 10 against Michael McCall.
01:09:57.000We've also had Stahl on, who's running for the State Senate against the corridors and the toll roads and all that.
01:10:03.000So we're trying to really... I mean, Texas is the front line.
01:10:06.000We are under massive attack, and everything that's happening here is coming to your area.
01:10:10.000So this affects everybody in the country.
01:10:12.000And Michael Bagnerik, thank you so much for coming on with us.
01:10:18.000It is really exciting to have you here in studio with us today.
01:10:24.000Why don't you, Michael, just kind of recap what happened during the Libertarian presidential campaign, and then I want to go through some of your personal views and policies on the toll roads in Texas and the Supreme Court ruling on private property, and then I want to just get into the Constitution itself and the true role of government.
01:10:42.000Well, let me first say that I'm honored and very privileged to have been nominated.
01:10:48.000There was nobody on the convention floor more surprised than I was.
01:10:54.000I had done my best to bring libertarians into the party to help push the ideas forward.
01:11:01.000We participated in the presidential debate that Saturday night and the first vote Gary Nolan, Aaron Russo, and I split the vote, 33% each, and it was very, very dramatic and exciting.
01:11:19.000After I won the nomination, John Earhart and I traveled about 75,000 miles by air.
01:11:25.000We visited 42 states, I believe, trying to do, I think we totaled up to 400 interviews during that time.
01:11:34.000And one thing that was not known, David Cobb of the Green Party and I are both legitimate candidates for legitimate political parties.
01:12:44.000Well, that's basically what we were trying to do is to be in the audience.
01:12:47.000I also was acting as a process server.
01:12:50.000The third debate in Arizona was on paid for by tax money on a tax-funded campus and so the Arizona Libertarians filed a lawsuit and said you either have to let Michael in the debate or shut down the debate and we had this court order that I was going to try to present to the... Oh, that's right!
01:13:12.000You even get the courts ordering it and they still ignore it.
01:13:15.000That's the thing about the government now.
01:13:39.000So, we were trying to get that information out.
01:13:41.000But you'd think that would be newsworthy, because all over the country they were talking about how they were shutting everybody out of the debate.
01:13:46.000How are we going to have a legitimate third party if we can't ever even get people in the debate?
01:13:53.000So, it was a very interesting and exciting process.
01:13:57.000I'm, again, honored to have been able to represent the Libertarian Party.
01:14:01.000And this year, in order to continue lighting the fires of liberty, we've decided the best thing for me to do is to run for Congress in 2006.
01:14:12.000Well, that's exciting, and I want to talk about later why you're doing that.
01:14:15.000Just out of the gate, I don't think most Americans realize that when we've been saying 6,000 miles of toll roads, it's now 8,000 miles of toll roads.
01:14:51.000Libertarians in general would like to privatize issues.
01:14:56.000We don't want to eliminate the decision, we just want to move the decision-making process from Washington, or the state government, into the local county governments, or better, for education, back into the individual homes.
01:15:10.000So see, they advertise this as privatization, but it's not.
01:15:12.000It's like in Russia, when they pay off the president, and then he just gives an industry to some robber baron, or they call them oligarchs over there.
01:15:20.000Then they just, oh, here, you're a foreign Spanish company, we're going to give you our existing roads, and then let you run them and tax people to use them, acting basically as a government entity.
01:15:30.000So, I see modern privatization really as simply corporations becoming government.
01:15:35.000You don't see that as privatization, do you?
01:15:37.000No, I don't see that as privatization.
01:15:38.000And what they generally do is they take a word and then change the definition and then feed it back to you.
01:15:44.000So would privatization be if a group of investors got together and bought right-of-ways and built their own toll road and said, if you want to use it, pay us 50 cents?
01:15:56.000It's not simply the lack of fact that you've elected any of these people.
01:16:01.000You know, these people, if the government is giving this monopoly to a particular company, just because you haven't voted for the corporation heads, that doesn't mean that that's a privatized entity.
01:16:15.000Then there's the whole mode of how they're going to tax us with a transponder, and they admit that they'll even give you tickets when you speed from radio reader to radio reader.
01:16:23.000They admit that they'll be able to track where you're going and what you're doing.
01:16:27.000Yeah, I think that's an invasion of our privacy.
01:16:31.000It is very much that one world order that you're telling people about.
01:16:37.000Well, the good news is the majority of Texas counties have now passed resolutions against it and are moving to file lawsuits and block it, so that's good news.
01:17:29.000And this is one of the things that I debate with people on.
01:17:32.000They tell me that the Constitution, specifically the Fifth Amendment, allows eminent domain But it's the question of, you know, what is just compensation?
01:17:53.000They condemn your house and then say, OK, it's only worth the lot value.
01:17:56.000Even though you've got a $300,000 house on the books, we're just going to give you lot value.
01:18:01.000Within a few weeks of the Supreme Court decision on Kelo versus New London, I got about a dozen anonymous phone calls from across the country.
01:18:11.000People know that I'm a constitutional scholar and they were calling to ask, the Supreme Court can't do that, can they?
01:18:17.000And realistically, these people already know the answer.
01:18:20.000They're just calling me so that I would confirm what they already know.
01:18:24.000Let's talk about that in detail and get into the Constitution.
01:18:27.000I'm going to spend the bulk of our time together, and if you can today, spend a few minutes into the next hour because we've got you started a little bit later.
01:18:32.000Set up some cameras so we can put this on the TV show, Michael.
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01:23:47.000Who are they trying to run against McCaul?
01:23:50.000Against McCaul, we have five Democrats that have recently registered, and they're going to have to go through their primary to decide which of their candidates is going to be the nominee.
01:24:02.000You know, I mean, this is just my advice.
01:24:04.000I know Ron Paul would win in Central Texas.
01:24:06.000Isn't there any way you can kind of brand yourself as a Ron Paul libertarian?
01:24:21.000Nobody needs to be beaten worse than Michael McCaul.
01:24:23.000I don't think people really know his record.
01:24:24.000Instead of bashing him all day, our listeners know he's bad news, but I mean, Janet Reno's toady on Waco and a bunch of other horrible stuff, Chinagate, protecting the Chi-Coms, and then now he's this little anti-terror czar up in Congress.
01:24:39.000Well, we're going to be working very, very hard in District 10.
01:24:42.000We're beginning a listening tour this month where we're going to go out and talk to the voters.
01:24:48.000We want to know what the voters think about Washington government.
01:24:52.000What they think about the Texas corridor and all the issues here in Central Texas.
01:24:58.000Well I think having a successful presidential candidate, I mean you were successful, got a lot of attention, got a lot of information out to people.
01:25:03.000I think that really adds an entree to you and plus you're from right here in Austin.
01:25:07.000Well, I think what sets me apart is the fact that I am willing to work so hard.
01:25:13.000We have an office staff already who we're putting in 10 to 12 hours a day, and this is just the beginning of the campaign.
01:25:19.000We have every intention of walking the district, shaking hands, and meeting as many of the constituents as possible.
01:25:34.000Again, we want to reduce the size of government.
01:25:37.000If we got rid of the IRS and you got to keep your money, you'd probably do something really silly like spend it.
01:25:44.000And do we have small businesses springing up all over the place?
01:25:47.000Well, Mike, when this country had a 20% growth rate a year, a hundred and something years ago, we didn't have an income tax and the government had some puny tariffs that were meant just to protect our industries.
01:26:19.000You, or the government that's supposed to represent you?
01:26:22.000Well, the thing is, the government, even in major studies they've had over the last 30 years, that they really get more into their treasury when they lower taxes.
01:26:52.000The Federal Reserve right now, Michael, is going into overdrive.
01:26:55.000The new chairman is saying he's going to print money even faster than Greenspan, and inflation is really at about 10%, but even if it's 5% like they claim it is, If growth in the economy is 3.4, over a decade you're losing a lot of money.
01:27:15.000I think that people need to understand that a little bit more.
01:27:19.000But I think that as soon as you start talking about the Federal Reserve, most people on the sidewalk just kind of their eyes glaze over.
01:27:26.000It's a little bit too complicated for them as the first thing to talk about.
01:27:29.000Maybe you should just tell them the Federal Reserve doesn't like Vince Young.
01:27:35.000Well, I just want to tell them that we're going to let them spend their money.
01:27:40.000And, you know, let them decide the best way to improve their life.
01:27:44.000We get the economy going again, that's good for everybody.
01:27:47.000But I mean, maybe we should just boil it down to like, ugging and grunting, and just say that Well, I think that the American public is figuring it out.
01:28:10.000But I want to get into that when we get back.
01:28:12.000What are we going to talk about with that, of the Kelo?
01:28:15.000I was just going to point out that people, that decision brought people into the political arena that had never been concerned about politics before.
01:28:23.000Oh, you're saying it was a wake-up call?
01:28:25.000It was a wake-up call, absolutely a wake-up call, and I think that in the long run that's going to be very helpful to it.
01:28:31.000Well, let's go through just your 101 when we get back.
01:28:34.000Let's see, you had 5-10 minutes with a group of We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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01:28:40.000Please do that when we get back, Michael Bagnari.
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01:31:50.000content and what about it with michael bagner get into the constitution the bill of rights About five, six years ago, he did a video presentation, which I've got to get a copy of.
01:32:07.000I ought to call my friend Chris Athanas and get a copy of that that he produced for local TV and maybe even sell it out of the office or something once I approach him about it, but we never did anything.
01:32:16.000It's just an hour-long program where Michael Bagnerich is sitting there in the backyard at a table going through the Constitution, but then Christopher Annis built all these graphics to explain it and how it works.
01:32:26.000And at the end of it, I mean, just a layman will really understand how beautiful it is, how important it is.
01:32:31.000Red Beckman, in years past, one of the granddaddies of this movement for liberty, rediscovering liberty, you know, he had like four or five hour seminars he would go over explaining, you know, the role of the people above the government, not the people below the government.
01:32:47.000In a situation where you're a slave, the government is above you.
01:32:54.000And then down here, we're their minions.
01:32:57.000But in a free society, they're servants, and we're the sovereigns.
01:33:00.000But we'll talk about that in a few minutes before we go back to Michael Bagnerik.
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01:36:05.000Before we get into the Constitution, and you really are a constitutional scholar and you teach those classes, which makes you the right man for the job, tell us about your website, your campaign, how folks get involved.
01:36:42.000Well, we are making this a nationwide campaign.
01:36:45.000We want people to call in from all 50 states.
01:36:49.000Ron Paul gets contributions from all 50 states, and we're hoping to do very close to the same thing.
01:36:57.000Well, it's going to take money to go after the Chi-Com's operative, Michael McCall.
01:37:05.000Give that website out again, and please give us that phone number again.
01:37:08.000The website is badnarek.org, B-A-D-N-A-R-E-K.
01:37:13.000N A R I K dot O R G and the phone number is 512-637-6860.
01:37:18.000And we've got a link to it up on InfoWars.com, but will you spell out Bagnart for us?
01:37:31.000Yes, B as in boy, A, D as in dog, N A R I K.
01:37:37.000Folks, you need to go to Infowars.com if you didn't write that down or if you missed that address.
01:37:42.000We have a big link to it right there in the guest section on the front page to Michael Bagnerik's website.
01:37:48.000Now, we've got some time in this segment.
01:37:51.000Let's go through, for those that don't know, I know most of our audience is pretty well educated, I mean, there's so much to know about the Founding Fathers, the struggle, why America was different, what a republic is, and then maybe talk about the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Tenth Amendment, some of the things that are really under attack right now, and where Washington has gone wrong, because Washington just announces itself as God, and so many people think, well, if they say they're God, they must be.
01:38:17.000Well, I think the best thing to do is to go back to the beginning.
01:38:21.000We have a problem with, you know, which came first, chicken or the egg.
01:38:24.000But we do not have a problem with which came first, the people or Congress.
01:38:33.000And Article 1, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution says that all powers herein granted The power that Congress has is granted to them by the people.
01:41:06.000People think, well, at least crime's going down, I can carry a gun, but wait a minute, they've now turned a right into a privilege, you're acquiescing, and by color of law, possession is nine-tenths of the law, by the basic custom, you are now creating a false common law that it is a privilege.
01:41:33.000One of the big things that happened last year was the Supreme Court decision on Kelo versus New London.
01:41:39.000The whole purpose of the Constitution and the government that it creates is to protect your life, your liberty, and private property.
01:41:48.000And the Kelo decision basically struck that down, reversed everything, and said the government can take your property pretty much for anything it wants.
01:41:57.000And as I said earlier, I had about a dozen anonymous phone calls, people calling me up to confirm that, I mean, the Supreme Court's not supposed to be able to do that.
01:42:07.000Well, they do it because they can get away with it.
01:42:10.000We the people need to stand up and we need to, we need to understand the Constitution.
01:42:15.000We need to understand what privileges we have given the government so that when the government violates those privileges, we can call them to task.
01:42:36.000And the average person, they know all about Vince Young's passing record, they know all about the Dallas Cowboys, which, fine, if you want to know about that, know about it.
01:42:45.000Why I get angry is, though, they know nothing about the playbook of America.
01:42:50.000But they'll tell you they've got rights all day, they'll tell you it's a free country, but then I know, because I've researched this in depth, and you know because you've researched it, they're totally violating it.
01:43:00.000I mean, the new London Supreme Court ruling for those that don't know, and I want you to elaborate on this.
01:43:05.000But we've interviewed the parties involved.
01:43:07.000The big secret is, as I said earlier, they don't just take your property, they then don't even give you what it says on the tax rolls it's worth.
01:43:15.000And normally, best use could be anywhere from three to ten times what the tax roll says.
01:43:20.000But $300,000 houses, $307,000 in one case, they go, well we'll give you $50,000 because of a lot price.
01:43:27.000But if you fight us in court, this happened five years ago, we're then going to charge you back taxes on rent of your own property and you won't get anything.
01:43:36.000And we'll actually put a lien on you for taxes and say you owe us money.
01:43:40.000So you're going to owe us money because we're going to take your house.
01:43:45.000And the New London case specifically, said that if a local politician wants to just give your land or say they're going to give your land to some local private developer because he can do something better with it and quote pay more taxes that goes back to the Queen saying I'm gonna take your noble lands and give it to another noble because he says he can do more for me I mean that is that not classical feudalism?
01:44:33.000The thing is that your average person on the street is starting to pick up on that and... But we've now got about ten new affiliates in the last two weeks, so we've got a lot of new listeners.
01:44:50.000They're taking your property, they're not even paying you for it.
01:44:54.000We just had the President admit on television not long ago that, oh yes, we are spying on people inside the United States and well We didn't get a warrant because that was really kind of a nuisance for us, but it was in your best interest, so just trust me.
01:45:08.000But then I had a problem with the FISA Court where they can come back in a month.
01:45:11.000That isn't even really a real warrant either.
01:45:18.000I think the American people are waking up to all this, and I am hoping that the system starts to Expose itself for what it is.
01:45:28.000Why do you think the elite right now, Michael Bagner, that own the Republicans and Democrats, like so much change in their pocket, why do you think they're even dispensing with, you know, they kind of left some of the trappings of America there.
01:47:05.000We need to make sure that serious professional people like yourself are leading this instead of the buffoons the media tries to so often focus in on.
01:47:15.000What about the Second Amendment, Michael?
01:47:16.000We saw actual gun confiscation of even the undamaged areas, the unflooded areas, The Army's first mission, with the FBI leading them, and this is all on national news, was to come in and go into rich people's homes, even.
01:47:29.000I say that because, you know, the poor folks are usually who they do this to.
01:47:32.000Now it's, we're going into the million-dollar houses, we're going to put you down in the dirt, take your guns, and then let you stay in your house where you can't defend yourself.
01:47:39.000What would you do as a congressman if you saw that happening?
01:47:42.000Well, I would make the announcement that 20,000 gun laws in the United States are unconstitutional.
01:47:48.000Because they infringe on your right to self-defense and the right to defend your children.
01:48:03.000And one of the reasons that I left California and moved to Texas It was because the California legislature passed 18 anti-gun laws, six of which would turn me into a felon overnight.
01:49:13.000And statistically, any time you have strong gun control, such as Washington, D.C., New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, you also have high crime and murder.
01:49:23.000In all the places where people are allowed to carry guns and defend themselves, the crime rate is very low or drops precipitously as soon as they pass the law.
01:49:49.000Only Switzerland is safer than the U.S.
01:49:51.000But the mainstream media won't tell you those numbers.
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01:54:06.000All the cities that have gun control have high crime.
01:54:11.000Kennesaw, Georgia is a small town just northwest of Atlanta.
01:54:15.000And several years ago, they passed a law that requires a homeowner to have a gun.
01:54:21.000Now, they've never arrested anybody for not having a gun, but it was interesting that as soon as they passed this law saying that, you know, homeowners have to have a gun, home invasions in that city dropped by 90%.
01:54:33.000Nobody's crawling through anybody's window anymore because you could get hurt.
01:54:37.000By the way, I've had their police chief on, I've had their mayor on, and that's true.
01:54:41.000It was actually, I believe, 92% So it's even better, and the only reason I know that is because we have a section on the website about it.
01:54:51.000But imagine, they were having a crime wave because all the crime was coming in from Atlanta, and now it's non-existent.
01:55:11.000I mean, you know, right here in this safe next to me, I've got it's a safe so nobody can get into it but me, I mean right now somebody comes in here and tries to harm me or my staff, it's bye-bye.
01:55:21.000And that's not a bad thing, that's good.
01:55:28.000I talked to women who say they would do anything to protect their children.
01:55:33.000And I said, well, if you have someone crawling through the window at 2 o'clock in the morning with a bloody machete, would you take a gun and use it to protect your children?
01:56:48.000But, again, the government tries to pass laws that are, you know, one size fits all.
01:56:55.000And as individuals, we all know that, you know, we don't all fit the same mold.
01:57:00.000Well, you've got to really be domesticated to be afraid of guns.
01:57:03.000I mean, that was the norm in this country, and now people are scared to death of them.
01:57:07.000Well, our country, the United States, started in 1775 when the King's police officers came to confiscate our guns at Lexington and Concord.
01:57:17.000And the Texas Revolution started it, and Gonzales over gun confiscation.
01:58:43.000He was Janet Reno's confidante, her attack dog, her minion who protected her on Chinagate.
01:58:48.000Waco, and just so many other horrible things.
01:58:52.000And Constitutional Scholar Michael Bagnerica is running against him in place 10, to be another Ron Paul for us, hailing from the great state of Texas.
01:59:04.000So he is here with us in studio now for another 20 minutes or so.
01:59:08.000I want to go to these calls, but Michael, any other points or issues you want to cover on the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and where America is going right now?
01:59:19.000I just think that people need to read the Constitution and understand it.
01:59:22.000I've written a book to make that all easier.
01:59:25.000The name of the book is Good to be King.
01:59:27.000You can get that at Amazon.com and other bookstores.
01:59:30.000It lays out things in very simple terms.
01:59:55.000The idea is, why do we need any government at all?
02:00:01.000Did the Founding Fathers get together and say, you know, the birds are singing, the crops are good, and everything is... It was a limited government just to protect our property.
02:00:33.000Bush gets up and says, I'm Commander-in-Chief so I can rob banks.
02:00:36.000He gets up and says, I can have martial law, I can spy on you, I'm Commander-in-Chief because they say I am.
02:00:40.000He's only commander-in-chief when they declare war with a specific enemy name and a specific conflict and then they still levy the money and control him during that executive process.
02:00:49.000The Legislative is supposed to be the strongest branch of government according to the stuff I've read, what the Founding Fathers wrote and debated.
02:00:56.000But then you go look at it, what, Article 2?
02:01:04.000He can't violate any of the Bill of Rights.
02:01:07.000It's so limited, but the average person doesn't know what Article 2, Section 2 is.
02:01:11.000Well, when the President or anybody else, any other government agent, takes an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, they don't go to the National Archive, you know, once a month and stand in front of the document and make sure nobody gets a smudge mark on it.
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02:05:51.000Michael Bagnarick, he was a presidential candidate for Libertarian's.
02:05:58.000One of their more fiery elections in 2004 was basically kidnapped in one of the debates just for even being near the sacred building trying to get in.
02:06:10.000And they are the only real big third party in this country.
02:06:13.000How many elected public servants Who are Libertarians are in high office right now?
02:08:39.000um... against this administration uh... specifically the charges of taking the country to war under false pretense and fabricated intel Yeah, it's part of the record that they fabricated the intelligence, that they premeditatedly lied.
02:09:10.000We just watched the Rose Bowl last night.
02:09:12.000What do you think would have happened if the referee had given somebody a touchdown when their feet were outside, you know, the boundaries?
02:09:18.000I mean, there would have been a national riot.
02:09:31.000And the minute, I mean, if some banana republic doesn't follow a rule, that's one thing.
02:09:34.000The whole world is saying, we can preemptively attack people, we can torture, we can break the law, we can spy on people.
02:09:40.000Instead of being a beacon of light now, China's going, hey, we're going to have more Tiananmen Squares than they just did a month ago, because you're having them.
02:10:02.000Yes, all of this is well said, but I'm speaking specifically about the charges filed by Prosecutor in Chicago about, you know, the foreknowledge and fabricated intel and the Not the whole 9-11, everything Alex is exposed.
02:10:33.000I mean, I just, you know, we watch that, we watch those people make those claims, and now I'm just sure, and I was sure of it at the time when we said it, but I mean, it's just... No, Scooter Libby's been indicted.
02:14:20.000My frustration with the Libertarians is they won't speak out on the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:14:25.000They won't speak out on the 9-11 cover-up and the inside job going on there.
02:14:31.000We keep just running around the same stuff and it's all good, but we're not Americans are shallow people for the most part when it comes to the Constitution.
02:14:42.000Are you going to speak out on 9-11 in Oklahoma?
02:14:44.000I think I'll put it this way, and thanks for the call, Stuart.
02:15:30.000Paul Craig Roberts, who was number two at Treasury, the chief economist for Bush.
02:15:35.000This current Bush, in his last administration, has been on Morgan Reynolds and talked about 9-11 clearly being an inside job.
02:15:42.000I mean, obviously, you talk about that here on air, they can use that against you on TV, but any signal to the people out there?
02:15:49.000I'm going to be going and talking with the people, shaking hands with them and letting them know that when I give you an answer, it is not political rhetoric.
02:16:22.000So you're saying they've lost so much trust now that you think they're losing even more control?
02:16:28.000I think that the people, specifically, you know, across the United States, but hopefully in District 10, have lost confidence in the government, and that they are at the point where they are willing to vote for someone other than a Democrat or Republican.
02:16:41.000I don't think that they're going to feel like they are wasting their vote when they cast a ballot for me.
02:16:46.000But the question is, let's say you go to a meeting here in Austin, and I know half the people bring up 9-11 inside a job to you.
02:16:51.000If people bring that up, are you going to say, my constituents are concerned about the cover-up of 9-11 and want a real investigation?
02:16:58.000If my constituents tell me that they're concerned about that, yes, I'll bring it up.
02:17:02.000Maybe you could start a committee up there and call the people in.
02:17:07.000It could be, have you ever or are you ever involved in 9-11?
02:17:20.000I've got him here on the show, and he'll say everything up to that point, and he won't say that, because they've already had TV ads with his head floating around Jupiter saying, he's from outer space, he's a... Just wink at me, and you'll know it's true.
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02:22:24.000And the campaign manager was telling me about our good friend Jimmy Vaughn, who's a great friend of the show and a great American who's been fighting it.
02:22:30.000You know, the toll roads are even going to take part of his ranch.
02:22:33.000And you know, he was telling me how Jimmy was giving him this hour-long tour of Corridor Watch and Stahl's campaign.
02:22:38.000I think you guys need to link up, man.
02:22:40.000I mean, I understand you're for the whole Constitution, but I think, I mean, you talk about contributions, support, my two cents.
02:22:47.000And I know you're saying you're going to do whatever your constituents are telling you they're most concerned about constitutionally.
02:22:53.000I mean, are you getting the feedback that the toll roads of the zeitgeist?
02:24:16.000Tooth fairies, leprechauns... I've been a Boy Scout, a Scoutmaster, an Advanced First Aid Instructor for the Red Cross, but I've never joined any meetings.
02:24:44.000You know, you fight the New World Order by getting involved.
02:24:46.000I'm just going to tell you that right now.
02:24:47.000There's never a perfect way to fight the New World Order, but there's always a way to fight them.
02:24:50.000And I know this fighting them is the way to go.
02:24:54.000It's like Private Joker is silly and he's ignorant, but he's got guts and guts is enough.
02:24:58.000Alright, let's go ahead, and that's me.
02:25:00.000Let's go ahead and talk to Andy in Washington.
02:25:02.000Andy, last caller for our guest, go ahead.
02:25:04.000Hi Alex, you justly comment on the abuses of the police in this country, and I've been wanting to bring this up for you for a while, but it seems like a perfect time today considering your guest's constitutional background.
02:25:15.000I'm from Washington State and wanted to make a quick comment on the constitutionally protected right to bear arms.
02:25:22.000In my state constitution article 1, which is our declaration of rights part, section 24, it briefly states, the right to bear arms, the right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed
02:25:38.000Yeah, that's because you're a territory, so you're one of the few states that doesn't have it, but under the federal law you do, and under organic law you do, and so, you know, you've got maximum rights.
02:25:53.000Well, and the point that I'm bringing up here, all police in this state work for corporations.
02:26:06.000During the presidential campaign, I was in Missouri, and someone wanted me to confirm or deny that the Missouri Constitution allowed or didn't allow concealed carry weapons.
02:26:17.000I said, I don't know what the Missouri Constitution says, but if it tries to limit your right, then the Missouri Constitution is a violation of your rights and is unconstitutional.
02:26:27.000Yeah, see, they can't even change the Constitution and then declare that we don't have rights.
02:26:30.000In Article 9, in 10, it just keeps restating, no, it comes from you.
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02:30:41.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:30:54.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:30:58.000Well, it was great having Michael Bagnarik here in studio with us, and I want to go to a couple of callers that have been holding.
02:31:11.000I did not specifically want to talk to Michael Bagnarik, Joe in Wisconsin, and a few others, but I really need to spend some time right now getting into some of the good things.
02:31:27.000that are happening and right now in New Hampshire a bill has been introduced that aims to prevent Katrina-style gun seizures.
02:31:37.000This is up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
02:31:42.000Concerned by perceived abuses of federal power during the Katrina crisis, New Hampshire state reps are reviewing a bill which would criminalize certain weapon seizures even if the perpetrators Our federal officers, House Bill 1639FN, this is such good news, criminalizing your criminal behavior.
02:32:02.000It's already criminal, but let's just restate that.
02:32:05.000Prohibits the classification of lawfully owned and lawfully carried firearms during a state of emergency, making a felon of any law enforcement officer, peace officer, public servant, who attempts to seize any firearm during a disaster.
02:32:19.000The bill was sponsored by Representative Paul Hopvergraten, At the request of local free staters, members of the group trying to recruit freedom lovers in New Hampshire and turn it into an even more libertarian state than it already is at freestateproject.org.
02:32:37.000The bill reads, any law enforcement officer, a person acting as a law enforcement officer, or other public official, how about public servant, get it straight, You're such free staters, you should know that, who confiscates or attempts to confiscate lawfully carried or lawfully owned firearms in the state during a declared state of emergency shall be charged with a class A felony.
02:33:03.000And I gotta tell you, I totally agree with that.
02:33:05.000I mean, if you're engaged in mass gun confiscation operations, then you should go to jail.
02:33:13.000It's so dangerous going in and taking guns.
02:33:16.000It's so dangerous not bringing food and water to people, and instead refusing to do that and tromping around trying to get their guns.
02:33:22.000And that's why FEMA botched the whole thing on purpose and jammed communications and did that.
02:33:26.000And the chaos following Hurricane Katrina's various government agencies, including federal marshals, made systematic attempts to sweep New Orleans of guns, even if that meant entering the homes of law-abiding gun owners.
02:33:38.000Well, high and dry areas in the suburbs and million-dollar houses.
02:33:41.000The move did not cause widespread outage in most states.
02:33:46.000uh... outrage in most states, excuse me, but New Hampshire residents reacted by burning a FEMA flag in front of a local federal building.
02:33:54.000They also circulated a petition pledging resistance if such a move were ever attempted in the live free or die state.
02:34:01.000How about live like a slave or grovel on your knees state?
02:34:04.000I mean, you know, America's now land of the dumb and home of the slaves, a place where guns are part of the culture and gun laws are the second loosest in the nation next to Vermont.
02:34:14.000Activists say whether it passes or not, the gun protection bill is one more small thing they can do to try to protect themselves from the disarmament at the hands of the government during a time when they believe they will need their weapons most.
02:34:27.000Yeah, if there's a nuke goes off or bio-attack... I remember talking to a Louisiana state trooper about three years ago off-air.
02:36:34.000They had to leave a note because they couldn't... That's enough.
02:36:36.000Yeah, like it feels uncomfortable when you're robbing a bank, I'm sure.
02:36:40.000It probably feels uncomfortable the first time you're a serial killer and you go pick up some poor woman who's a hitchhiker and go chop her head off after you rape her.
02:36:48.000I'm sure it feels uncomfortable the first time you smoke crack cocaine.
02:36:51.000I bet it feels uncomfortable when you're drinking a bottle of Jack Daniels every day.
02:36:55.000It probably feels uncomfortable if you punch your wife in the face and knock her teeth out.
02:36:58.000Because you're not supposed to be doing it!
02:37:55.000When there's a disaster, the government's going to do everything it can, and the compartmentalized people in it aren't going to ask why they're doing it.
02:38:02.000But we have the documents to make it worse, to have a breakdown so you don't have food and water, so you've got to be then processed, quote, through the relocation centers and can have your guns taken and be relocated.
02:38:14.000Out of this crisis, they re-engineer America.
02:38:58.000But anyway, I wanted to discuss how China got the most favored nation status.
02:39:03.000That was under Carter, and that was 1980.
02:39:07.000What I was wondering is, how in the world they could have gotten that if they knew about the human rights violations back then?
02:39:14.000And are they setting us up for the same treatment?
02:39:17.000If we're not supposed to care about what goes on over there, maybe we shouldn't care about what's going on over here.
02:39:22.000Well, I think your point is absolutely central.
02:39:25.000If we have a government that, through the United Nations, gives China awards and says, you are the model, you are the best.
02:39:34.000If you watch the CFR meetings on C-SPAN or read their bi-monthly publications, they worship, they lavish, they fawn
02:39:45.000All over China, in mobile execution vans, melting down dead prisoners for collagen, killing hundreds of innocent farmers who don't want to go up their land, police in black riot gear, same black Darth Vader outfits our police have, mowing them down with machine guns, all of our industry moving over there, our global corporations saying they're the future.
02:40:06.000Yes, sir, they're going to use the slaves of China to leverage out the whole world.
02:40:12.000Well, even Mexico's losing most of its jobs now because of China.
02:40:16.000And now India's coming online with major industrialization at slave level.
02:40:21.000I mean, literally, they don't even have cardboard boxes to live in in most Indian cities.
02:40:24.000They just use the bathroom on the street and wander around.
02:40:28.000And then the next cast up from that, it works for subsistence level, you know, answering the phones, building the widgets.
02:40:37.000I mean, it is a hellish system, and so if we have any questions, in the past our government would at least pay a little lip service criticizing China.
02:40:45.000Now they don't say a word, because that's the model, baby.
02:40:49.000What I was thinking is, if they wanted just a rubber stamp, they should have just used Gerald Ford.
02:41:39.000People that never had them are getting them.
02:41:40.000I think it's something else combined with it.
02:41:43.000They say chemicals in the body at higher levels can trigger allergies, but it's cedars at like 6,000, it's totally dry, there's dust blowing around everywhere, and if I don't take a Sudafed 12-hour, it's the only thing that works for me, I wouldn't even be here right now, folks.
02:42:02.000I've been having headaches so bad, I wake up at 3 in the morning, just, they're not migraines, they're just pounding, and so I take Sudafed 12-hour, and let's be quite frank, You drink a cup of coffee with that, and I am basically like I've strapped a rocket onto my hind end.
02:42:18.000I don't like how I feel right now, but frankly, this feels better than being in the bed with a sinus headache.
02:42:25.000And I have no idea why speed, which I don't like, makes the headache go away and makes the sinuses clear.
02:42:37.000Well, all I can say is thank God for it.
02:42:39.000This is better than...better than... When is it going to rain around here?
02:42:43.000It's like 85 degrees right now, ladies and gentlemen.
02:42:46.000And the dust is...I'm looking out the window, there's dust blowing.
02:42:50.000My car every day is like green with the cedar all over it.
02:42:55.000And I've got to talk about Larry Silverstein.
02:43:02.000Larry Silverstein, through the State Department, has now released a statement saying that there were firefighters in the buildings and that's what his bullet meant.
02:43:12.000The problem is, we have scores of publications, government reports, the fire department, the police department, the official 9-11 report saying firefighters were never in it, they never decided to battle it.
02:43:23.000Giuliani got a call and was told to get out.
02:43:25.000He told Peter Jennings that before it even set fire.
02:43:28.000Then they say the building tower, the north tower, fell on it.
02:43:45.000You do see the central support column blown right before the blast points begin appearing down the side of the structure and then it falls into a perfect little pile.
02:43:54.000And earlier we played the clip of Silverstein saying they gave the order to pull it, which is the definition of a controlled demolition.
02:44:02.000Then we played a clip of where they were destroying other buildings later in the rebuilding, and they call it pulling it when they pull Building 6 and destroy what's left of Building 6 that has not collapsed.
02:44:12.000Then we have another clip of Dan Rather saying it looks like a controlled demolition.
02:44:16.000Did you get the clip of the firefighters where they're saying it looked like detonators and bombs in the building?
02:45:09.000I jumped behind a battalion car, I hit up to the car, I was waiting to die.
02:45:14.000Okay, and again, to even do this justice, I guess we should add to this article that Paul wrote.
02:45:18.000He did a good job in just a few hours writing it.
02:45:20.000We should add that the UL underwriters did tests with models and said it was absolutely impossible, still doesn't weaken until 3,000 degrees.
02:45:27.000Jet fuel burns at around 1,200 to 1,400.
02:45:33.000None of the buildings should have collapsed.
02:45:35.000There were clear squibs blowing up down the sides, the blast points.
02:45:39.000Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise, but we were meant to think it was the Arabs.
02:45:43.000You know, it's the same thing over and over and over again, and we then have Silverstein taking out record insurance policies two months before it happens, buying out the towers from the Port Authority, which is a Rockefeller front, and then Magically, they all blow up and collapse.
02:46:00.000We have firefighter engineering saying there was a cover-up of the debris, and that it looked like bombs were probably in there, and there's a big cover-up going on, and what happens is impossible.
02:46:08.000I mean, it just goes on and on and on and on and on and on.
02:46:12.000And then the 9-11 committee with Tower 1 and 2, which were also blown up by controlled demolitions, we even have the blast points.
02:46:19.000Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, just like in Las Vegas, and then it collapses.
02:46:23.000The buildings fell, in some cases faster than gravity, which can only happen faster than a lead bowling ball, folks, can fall.
02:46:30.000Because that can only happen if whole floors are simply evaporated, which was all that dust.
02:47:40.000As if three little fires was going to make it fall.
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02:53:02.000And see, cops and people Well, I don't think this is all the lawful system.
02:53:06.000No, it's a, it's a, it's a counterfeit.
02:53:08.000And also, too, that if you refuse to give your name, you know, when they ask you and tell them you're not going to give out any information like that, they can't proceed right then.
02:53:18.000Your name has to be listed on the docket and right before the court.
02:53:30.000But you don't have to follow, go under equity law, administrative or statutory rule if you do it historically wise under the 7th Amendment.
02:53:38.000Well, the problem is a lot of that is accurate and works a lot of times, but some of these judges and people are just going so rogue and so criminal.
02:53:45.000You know, they'll go, there's not even a law, I'm just going to hold you for a year and a half in contempt, and even though the charge is six months in contempt, six months, just bye-bye, we're not going to force drug you while you're at it, you'll be a, you'll be a lobster head by the time we're done with you.
02:53:59.000But the next time Michael gets on there, ask him his opinion and he'll tell you the same thing, but he knows the Constitution very well.
02:54:06.000We need to get him to be a little more hardcore, but I know he's listening right now, driving to wherever else he's going, but he's a great guy.
02:54:59.000Months after a Texas teenager was diagnosed with cancer, state authorities have finally decided to let her return home to her family after a long legal battle in which Texas officials, not the girl's parents, attempted to determine the course of the treatment for her disease.
02:55:11.000Her cancer was gone, but they tried to keep it going.
02:55:18.000Errol Cherone is hanging on by his fingernails.
02:55:21.000Barry Hamish is saying, a great Israeli writer over there, he's saying, a Jewish writer, he's saying it looks like it may be foul play by people even more extreme than him.
02:55:30.000People more extreme than Ariel Sharon.