Alex Jones on the 17th day of January, 2014. Big Brother in full swing and the mainstream media covering it up? You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones, host of the Conspiracy Theories podcast on the Global Conspiracy Network Radio Network, and host of Wide Open Phones.
00:03:55.000Them Iranians need to be turned into a glass parking lot.
00:03:59.000And of course, the coalition urges the Department of Homeland Security to reject real ID chip mandate as the states adopt RFID and biometrics in all 50 states.
00:04:09.000The national ID card now taking shape.
00:04:12.000Meanwhile, the average American has no idea what's going on.
00:04:14.000Meanwhile, in England, Lords defeat ID card scheme again.
00:04:19.000The people are against it in 80 plus percent, and so they're having trouble there, but the average American isn't.
00:04:26.000So a country where there's Four million plus surveillance cameras in London alone, and the citizens watch surveillance cameras on their table as entertainment, where they have a total police state, and you still don't have national ID cards.
00:04:38.000But, oh, here, land of the free, home of the brave, we do.
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00:08:49.000You see, when Big Brother actually does do its job and pick up overseas transmissions and picks up chatter of what a compartmentalized group in the government is about to do to itself, to use that as the catalyst to seize control and set up a police state in America and use this country as an engine for world government and empire, the NSA was told to back off and shut up.
00:09:16.000And that's all part of the public record.
00:09:27.000Bush signed W199I, ordering the FBI not to stop, quote, Al-Qaeda, because those so-called Al-Qaeda agents were really U.S.
00:09:37.000government assets who thought they were taking part in drills Who then got a rude awakening about who they were really working for.
00:09:46.000And we have that open and shut case, iron clad, so much evidence, it quite frankly rivals the Atlantic Ocean, or perhaps the Pacific Ocean.
00:09:56.000I mean, it is big, it is wide, it is deep, it is voluminous, it is encyclopedic, it is ridiculously well documented.
00:10:09.000People always say, Alex, a conspiracy, a program of corruption this big.
00:10:17.000The people doing it would be caught, and they have been caught.
00:10:21.000How many congressmen and women have spoken out?
00:10:22.000How many high-level members of the current Bush administration, and the Reagan administration, and the former Bush administration, and the Clinton administration, and how many defense ministers, and foreign ministers, and how many agents, and how many people at the Defense Language School, and Pensacola Naval Air Station?
00:10:39.000Have gone public and said what I'm saying right now.
00:10:42.000But we're lucky it's in the back of some newspaper, or the back of some journal, or said in a radio interview.
00:10:48.000It's like John Loftus, a top counter-terrorism expert for the FBI, had him on a few months ago and he said, yeah, it's clear that Oswald, the 7-7 bombing mastermind, the controller of some patsies, is MI6 and being protected.
00:11:05.000And he went through how clearly that it points directly to the British government.
00:11:11.000The guy's got a show on ABC News Radio every week.
00:11:16.000I mean, it's not like... This is not that radical of a broadcast.
00:11:20.000We just take all the different bad things that are happening, the scary things that are happening, the good things that are happening, the amazing things that are happening, We kind of wiggle around over the Michael Jackson story, through the Britney Spears articles, around the stories about the U2 Longhorns and the Rose Bowl.
00:11:40.000All of that stuff might be important to some people, but to us it's not.
00:11:43.000We go, oh look, there's five articles this week about how the Feds
00:11:48.000The Department of Agriculture and local governments are using the satellites to tax and fine and fee farmers and see how much you're really growing and see if you've got a well on your land you're not supposed to have or to see if you built a house and need to be paying property taxes or a new barn where you're not allowed to build new barns because of the impervious cover zoning laws and then they send out Homeland Security and arrest you because it's a federal crime or it's a local crime.
00:12:16.000Or, oh look, there's three articles today about defense intelligence and about the NSA having local police spying on citizens.
00:12:25.000Gun groups, liberal groups, land rights groups, you know, the whole spectrum.
00:12:31.000You know, here's ten articles about more cops being killed and more federal troop invasions, Mexican federal troop invasions, and all of this.
00:12:39.000And oh, here's articles about how The national ID cards are now going at the state level.
00:13:06.000It would be kind of like if the fire department showed up at your house before there was a fire, but as soon as they pull up it explodes in flames.
00:13:12.000You'd think, man, the fire department got this knowledge from somebody who set the fire.
00:13:21.000So all of this is going on, and then think about it.
00:13:24.000We have this crew who came into Congress Who came into the executive branch, who's gotten all these judgeships, the majority of the governorships, the gubernatorial seats, promising to end corruption, the age of credibility and upstandingness in government.
00:13:44.000And now we've seen a new dark age of corruption and bid rigging and profiteering and hundreds of millions stolen, you know, with this congressman or that congressman.
00:13:53.000Eight hundred million here, a hundred million there.
00:13:58.000Abramoff and trillions missing from the Pentagon.
00:14:03.000And Rumsfeld gets asked about it and he says, I'm not going to talk about it.
00:14:09.000But don't worry, we're going to give you a ticket if we catch you speeding.
00:14:15.000This is the type of stuff that's happening.
00:14:17.000These are the type of things that are going on all over the country.
00:14:22.000And every classical indicator of tyranny is being set up in front of us.
00:14:27.000In fact, there's an amazing article that we have up on PrisonPlanet.com written by the former Chief Economist for Ronald Reagan, the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, who ran the Treasury Department and was the main economist that Reagan tried to follow.
00:14:46.000I mean, a real classical conservative, I'm inventing new words here, Saying that we are now an insipid dictatorship.
00:14:59.000And right now it is very extreme when it comes to stealing and engaging in corruption.
00:15:07.000And mild when it comes to overt oppression.
00:15:12.000And I would say somewhat lukewarm, starting to get a little bit simmering and hot when it comes to surveillance, and then white hot, blistering hot, steel-melting hot when it comes to preparations for overt, 10 on the Richter scale, classical, full-blown tyranny.
00:15:38.000So, I mean, depending on which indicator you look at, and Paul Craig Roberts has written a great article about this, and I intend to read much of the article here in the broadcast today.
00:15:54.000And, of course, we will be taking your phone calls, but just ignore what I'm saying.
00:16:01.000The terrorists are going to strike us any minute.
00:16:04.000Henry Crumpton, the newly appointed head of counter-terrorism at the U.S.
00:16:09.000State Department, believes that it's simply a matter of time before international terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda acquire weapons of mass destruction and use them in attacks.
00:16:20.000In an interview with the Daily Telegraph, Mr. Crumpton, who previously spent 20 years working for the Central Intelligence Agency, which admits it's carried out terror attacks worldwide to blame it on their enemies, but That's just a side issue.
00:16:31.000We're supposed to ignore the admissions that our own government carries out terror attacks to blame it on their political rivals or enemies.
00:16:37.000Warned yesterday that the war on terror was likely to last for decades.
00:16:42.000Well, Cheney says 100 years, Bush says 50.
00:16:46.000Basically until everything's under their control, under their progeny's control, until every bank account feeds directly into their fat gullets.
00:16:53.000The threat has changed the way we will fight wars in the future, he said.
00:16:57.000Ah yes, the perfect enemy, foggy, can never be defeated, you can accuse anyone of it, and then all crime can then be defined as terrorism.
00:17:06.000It brings federal control into everything.
00:17:09.000We are talking about micro-targets such as Al-Qaeda, which, when combined with WMD, have a micro-impact.
00:17:16.000I rate the probability of terror groups using WMD to attack Western targets as very high.
00:17:24.000And it's not just a nuclear threat that bothers me.
00:17:26.000I think, if anything, the biological threat is going to grow.
00:17:30.000Well, much of the economy is shifting into the BioShield program, to make hundreds of vaccines mandatory, to force these special concoctions, because the government loves us so much they want us to have these.
00:17:42.000Doesn't matter, the very same government, 3,000 plus times admittedly, Has tested chemical, biological, and radiologicals on U.S.
00:17:50.000civilians and military by design on purpose, declassified.
00:17:54.000We should just trust the very group that's done this over and over again to force these vaccines on us, despite the fact that Nobel Prize winners and many others have gone public in Indian and Chinese and Russian.
00:18:06.000And African scientists have isolated cancer viruses, sterilization agents, good old classic poisons, in every batch of major vaccine that the UN has provided for the third world.
00:18:17.000We should just trust a group that openly says they want a world government so they can orderly reduce our population by 85 to 95 percent, depending on what study or document they put out, and who openly has been caught testing biologicals on us over and over again.
00:18:33.000I had some caller who disagreed yesterday, and he didn't deny that the U.S.
00:18:38.000government, that is criminal elements of it, admittedly staged the Gulf of Tonkin, staged the U.S.' 's liberty with Israel, carried out terror attacks in Iran to blame it on their political enemies.
00:19:09.000It'd be like if you had somebody on your street who'd committed 10 murders.
00:19:16.000And then somebody got murdered on your street by the exact same tactics and Way that this individual had killed 10 people 25 years before and now he's been paroled and released.
00:19:31.000I mean, no, no, the police would instantly seize that individual.
00:19:34.000They would instantly, and then especially the individual had the motive.
00:19:38.000I mean, let's imagine the guy's in prison and he says when he gets out, he dreams of killing people a certain way.
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00:24:16.000He was number two at the Department of Treasury during the Reagan administration and is highly respected as a conservative, an extreme conservative, all across the country.
00:24:28.000And by extreme conservative, you know, he believes that the government spending more money than has ever been borrowed or spent by all administrations before it is not conservative.
00:24:38.000Or assigning predominantly anti-gun judges to judgeships is not conservative.
00:24:45.000Or more than tripling abortion money to the UN is not conservative.
00:24:51.000But, again, I guess according to a lot of conservatives, killing babies is conservative.
00:24:59.000Maybe we're evil liberals, like they've always said.
00:25:04.000Paul Craig Roberts wrote this article.
00:25:05.000It's titled, Bush Has Crossed the Rubicon.
00:25:08.000Of course, that's when Caesar came across a particular river in the north of Italy.
00:25:14.000General Everett brought his main force into Italy proper.
00:25:18.000He was attempting, of course, to set up martial law and he would be seized and basically executed if he didn't win.
00:25:24.000But he did bring his troops, of course, into Rome and did set up a dictator ship.
00:25:32.000There's a reason we have Posse Comitatus, the 1878 law.
00:25:36.000Dictatorships seldom appear full-fledged, but emerge piecemeal.
00:25:41.000When Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with one Roman legion, he broke the tradition that protected the civilian government from victorious generals and launched the transformation of the Roman Republic into a Roman Empire.
00:25:55.000Now, remember how Tommy Franks and all these generals went, Gee, I'm real sorry, but we're going to probably have a military dictatorship to keep you safe?
00:26:52.000That's what they're now claiming, that executive wartime power.
00:26:57.000The decree for the protection of the people and the state, February 28, 1933, suspended guarantees of personal liberty and permitted arrest and incarceration Without trial.
00:27:12.000The Enabling Act, March 23, 1933, transferred legislative power to Herr Hitler, permitting him to decree laws, laws, moreover, that may deviate from the German Constitution.
00:27:28.000The dictatorship of the Roman Emperors was not based on an ideology.
00:27:32.000The Nazis had an ideology of sorts, but Hitler's dictatorship was largely personal and agenda-based.
00:27:39.000The dictatorship that emerged from the Bolshevik Revolution was based on ideology.
00:27:44.000Lenin declared that the Communist Party's dictatorship over the Russian people rests directly on force, Not limited by anything, not restricted by laws or any absolute rules.
00:27:57.000Exactly what Alberto Gonzales and John Woo say.
00:28:01.000Or John Yoo, excuse me, one of the chief counsels of Bush, saying they can torture children and crush their genitalia if they wish in front of their parents.
00:28:09.000Stalin's dictatorship over the Communist Party was based on coercion alone, unrestrained by any limitations or inhibitions.
00:28:20.000In the first decade of the 21st century, the United States regards itself as a land of democracy and civil liberty.
00:28:27.000But in fact, in an insipid dictatorship, ideology plays only a limited role in the emerging dictatorship.
00:28:37.000The demise of the American democracy, or our republic, is largely the result of historical developments.
00:28:44.000Lincoln was the first American tyrant.
00:28:46.000Lincoln justified his tyranny in the name of preserving the Union.
00:28:50.000His extra-legal, extra-constitutional methods were tolerated in order to suppress Northern opposition to Lincoln's war against the Southern secession.
00:28:59.000The first major lasting assault in the U.S.
00:29:01.000Constitution, separation of powers, which is the basis of our political system, came with a response ...of the Roosevelt administration to the crisis of the Great Depression.
00:29:12.000The New Deal resulted in the Congress deleting its legislative powers and delegating them to the executive branch.
00:29:20.000Today, when Congress passes a statute, it is little more than an authorization for an executive agency to make the law by writing the regulations that implement it.
00:29:29.000We will continue with crossing the Rubicon.
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00:33:19.000To read this entire article, Bush has crossed the Rubicon by Paul Craig Roberts, but it's up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:33:31.000But he goes through the process of how the executive has been strengthened and strengthened and strengthened and become more and more powerful.
00:33:41.000And now, we played that clip yesterday of Arlen Specter going, I'm gonna really get tough on Bush, and Bush pushed to be appointed as committee chairman of the Judiciary Committee, a very powerful committee.
00:33:51.000Because if that committee's corrupt, basically then the executive can do whatever it wants, so.
00:33:56.000And Specter is their man, he's always been their man, but he says, we'll see, you know, I think he may have overstepped on this, but he may just have total command, and he may just be able to have total executive control and be above all laws.
00:34:13.000He said, we're going to examine that in these hearings, as if it needs to be examined.
00:34:17.000The Constitution, the Bill of Rights, common sense, jurisprudence, common law, our entire history, the Federalist Papers, all of the different federal laws show it's totally illegal.
00:34:30.000The President can't rob banks, the President can't Bomb schools if he wants to, the President can't run a casino off the White House lawn, at least publicly.
00:34:43.000So if the President can't drive 120 miles an hour while drinking Jack Daniels through a school zone, then how can he violate and break federal law and then say, I'm the President, I can break any law I want?
00:34:57.000And listen, people pointed Al Gore coming out and saying it's a police state, the Constitution's been shredded, Bush is trying to be a dictator, Bush says, no, I'm not a dictator, and they say, well, Al Gore and Bill Clinton helped set up a police state, and that's right.
00:35:12.000It just gets worse each successive administration.
00:35:17.000Because that was the plan all along by the powerful financial institutions that own and run our country to a great extent and are gaining more control every day.
00:35:26.000They want us as an engine, as a tool, to be their creature for larger global domination and hegemony.
00:35:39.000And now it's not just Alex Jones, ten years ago, screaming bloody murder about this, as I saw all of the preparations Now, it is the general public and many prominent people who are honestly looking at what's happening and what's being declared and what's being done.
00:35:55.000I mean, when I learned in 1998 that the Army had approached, let me give you one example, Thomas Sanchez, Vietnam veteran, patriot, conservative, Hispanic American down in South Texas in Kingsville.
00:36:12.000They approached him and they said, we're preparing for martial law to take over America and confiscate guns.
00:36:18.000We'd like you to take part in this drill.
00:36:21.000And he said, get out of my office and started calling the press.
00:36:35.000We went down and interviewed him as well.
00:36:38.000And then we interviewed the police chief next door in Alice, who just said, yeah, I did the drill, and yeah, there were foreign troops, but I'm not going to talk to you about it.
00:36:45.000We can't let you know our tactics, because you're the enemy.
00:36:49.000And then the chief of police in San Antonio, they tried to bribe him.
00:37:07.000They told the local public servants, they told the officials, who I guess still back in the late 90's had their heads screwed on partially straight, that this is to take over America!
00:37:19.000Now listen, I don't need to hear that from Thomas Sanchez.
00:37:24.000I don't need to hear that from Ali Philippus.
00:37:46.000I've had them grab tapes out of cameras and erase them.
00:37:50.000I've had them laugh at me and say, we've been watching you the whole time.
00:37:54.000I've had them parked outside my hotel room.
00:37:57.000All because I wanted to get you video of them training to jerk your little kids away from you and strip you down naked and shower you and get you all ready and make sure you're sanitary for the camp for your safety!
00:38:17.000And the Marines even let me videotape in one case where they got wise to me as they were doing mock interrogations.
00:38:40.000And then people saw the footage in Police State 2000.
00:38:43.000Of the Marines in Hebron, Maryland with 12-year-old kids working for them, asking the kids, go tell us who owns guns in your neighborhood, doing these drills, practicing taking over the police station.
00:38:56.000I mean, I saw all of that, so I started freaking out about it until people got sick of it.
00:39:02.000We don't want to hear about martial law or the end of posse commentatis or the military being used in America.
00:39:12.000Getting rid of posse commentatis is good.
00:39:14.000Getting rid of posse commentatis would fix the problems in Katrina.
00:39:17.000We need Federal police, you know, the Viper teams from all over the country searching people and doing random checkpoints and federal grants to have police go out in riot gear and surround businesses and just randomly search everyone, training you how to be a slave.
00:39:38.000And listen, a lot of people think they control reality in their heads.
00:39:41.000They think if they just deny what I'm saying, that somehow that makes it go away.
00:39:49.000I assure you, if you're in debt, just turn on the television and suck in your thumb and eat another cheeseburger, you're not going to make it go away.
00:39:59.000If you, let's say, have got too much salt intake and you're sick and the doctor says you've got to quit eating as much salt, just saying everything will be fine and eating more salt isn't going to help you.
00:41:21.000I mean it's going as bad as it could go.
00:41:23.000It's going bad in a focused, scientifically crafted way.
00:41:30.000And going along with it, licking its boots, and kissing up to it, isn't going to protect you, it isn't going to protect me, it isn't going to protect any of us.
00:41:41.000And it really, at the end of the day, in the final equation, comes down to that.
00:41:48.000You know Big Brother's out of control.
00:41:52.000You know the economy isn't doing as good as it was doing ten years ago.
00:41:57.000And regardless of what the mainstream media says, all the key indicators of the debt, corporate, private, federal, state, all the indicators of test scores, all the indicators of truancy, and the indicators of illegitimacy in births, and the indicators of sexually transmitted diseases, and the indicators at every level, we're going bad, we're going bad in a big way.
00:42:23.000And the salve of sports and the salve of sex and the salve of porno and the salve of drugs and liquor, none of it is going to gloss it over.
00:42:36.000It might distract you and divert you for a minute.
00:42:39.000I mean, entertainment even advertises itself as a distraction now.
00:42:43.000Well, we're the opposite of entertainment.
00:42:45.000I guess you could call it infotainment if you wanted to, but I mean, there's nothing more energizing, if you just want what you'd call stimulation, than actually knowing the truth, and really being aware, and watching the grand chess board that is the planet Earth.
00:43:00.000Now, I want to go to your calls and get into some bunch of news, and we have some guests coming up today, but I know that Bert and John and Michael and Mark and John and others are holding, but let me just finish with some of what Paul Craig Roberts was saying.
00:43:14.000President Bush has used signing statements hundreds of times to talk about the message and the meaning of statutes passed by Congress.
00:43:25.000In effect, Bush is vetoing the bills he signs into law by asserting unilateral authority as commander in chief to bypass or set aside the laws he signs.
00:43:36.000He says, I'm signing this but I don't have to follow it.
00:43:39.000For example, Bush has asserted that he has the power to ignore the McCain Amendment against torture, to ignore the law that requires a warrant to spy on Americans, to ignore the prohibition against indefinite detention without charges or trial, and to ignore the Geneva Conventions to which the U.S.
00:44:09.000And then you learn who's really behind the terror and then things really make sense.
00:44:13.000In effect, Bush is asserting the powers that accrued to Hitler in 33.
00:44:19.000His Federalist Society apologist that the Department of Justice appointed claims that President Bush has the same power to interpret the Constitution as the Supreme Court.
00:44:29.000An Alito court is likely to agree with this false claim.
00:44:35.000Well, I've read the papers of Alito as a judge, and boy, he believes in total dictatorship.
00:44:41.000I don't care what he says in front of Congress now, because he's in trouble for it.
00:44:44.000This is the greatest issue that is before the country.
00:44:47.000But it is pushed into the background by political battles over abortion and homosexual rights.
00:44:52.000Many people fighting to strengthen the executive think they are fighting against legitimizing sodomy and murder in the womb.
00:44:59.000They are unaware that the real issue is that America is on the verge of elevating its president above the law.
00:45:07.000Exactly, and Bush isn't going to get rid of any of that stuff he's promised you he will.
00:45:11.000Oh, if he's a dictator, he can stop this, and he can beat those evil liberals.
00:45:15.000You mean all the gay porn stars and gay escort whores in the White House?
00:45:21.000You mean those that are literally running out of there like rats every night?
00:45:25.000Just spilling out of there in Bohemian Grove?
00:45:28.000The top gay porn star services, Christian conservative leaders.
00:45:31.000You know, New York Post headline, but it's okay.
00:45:35.000The actual headline is gay porn star services moguls.
00:45:42.000Bush Justice Department official and Berkeley law professor John Yoo argues that no law can restrict the president in his role as commander-in-chief.
00:45:50.000Thus, once the president is at war, even a vague open-ended war on terror, Bush Justice Department says the president is free to undertake any action in pursuit of war, including the torture of children, And he didn't mention the... I mean, imagine you being up on the stage in front of thousands of people in Chicago debating a fightin' Irish professor, and the professor says, well, you wrote that you can torture people's children in front of them and crush their testicles.
00:46:14.000And you say, yes, the president can do that.
00:46:17.000I mean, Jeffrey Dahmer, then, is okay, folks, including the torture of children and indefinite detention of American citizens.
00:46:24.000The Commander-in-Chief role is probably sufficiently elastic to expand any crisis, whether real or fabricated.
00:46:37.000has arrived at the verge of a dictatorship.
00:46:39.000This is a development that has little to do with Bush, who is unlikely to be aware that the Constitution is experiencing its final rending or its death on his watch.
00:46:53.000America's descent into dictatorship is the result of historical developments and old political battles dating back to President Nixon being driven from office by a Democratic Congress.
00:47:06.000There is today no constitutional party.
00:47:08.000Both political parties, most constitutional lawyers and the Bar Association are willing to set aside the Constitution whenever it interferes with their agendas.
00:47:19.000Yeah, the National Bar Association says abolish juries, folks.
00:47:25.000Last place I saw it was Chicago Tribune.
00:47:28.000Americans have forgotten the prestigiousness for freedom and the prerequisites for freedom.
00:47:36.000And those pursuing power have forgotten what it means when it falls into the hands of dictators.
00:47:44.000Americans are very close to losing their constitutional system and civil liberties.
00:47:49.000It is a paradox that American democracy is the likely casualty of a war on terror that is being justified in the name of expansion of democracy.
00:47:59.000Now I would just add the reason I babbled through a few of those is sometimes I print stuff and it prints and cuts off the last word so I was having to imagine at the end of each sentence What the word was.
00:48:12.000So, a few times I would imagine it incorrectly and then read the rest of the sentence and figure out what the word really was.
00:48:17.000So that's why you'd hear me say one word and then go back and say another.
00:48:20.000I tell ya, I don't know how a website, sometimes even our own website, we format it right and I hit printer friendly up there and it just doesn't matter.
00:48:47.000Look, I was watching History Channel last night, and they said that Lincoln was the biggest dictator that we ever had.
00:48:54.000Some of the things that they showed, Bush is doing the exact same thing that Lincoln did, but that's not why I'm calling.
00:48:59.000Wait a minute, they were advertising that because Bush is saying, because Lincoln arrested Governors, Congressmen, I mean, the leaders in Illinois... It cuts newspapers down and arrests... Yeah, hundreds and hundreds of newspapers that suddenly it's okay and that Bush may do that!
00:49:20.000Yeah, this was on Discovery Channel last night.
00:49:22.000They literally said he was the biggest dictated president we ever had.
00:49:27.000And by the way, he gave multiple speeches where he said that it was not about slavery and that he did not want to free black Americans.
00:49:34.000And I'm against slavery, folks, and against what happened.
00:49:36.000But I'm just telling you, Lincoln was a fraud.
00:49:51.000Now, I'm not saying the South didn't have real grievances or real problems.
00:49:55.000And it was about the unfair tariffs and industrialization of the North, and the scams on the South in their agriculture, and who would control Western expansion.
00:50:06.000But the British government, the bloody British, and we fought two separate times, 1812 and of course 1776, They came in and paid, and paid off the South, and antagonized the whole thing.
00:50:18.000So it was a larger plan to put us into shambles, but go ahead.
00:50:31.000Now what I'm trying to get to is I'm from Chicago originally, and you got the Latin Kings with another 50,000 members, the Disciples with another 30 or 40,000 members, and I think it constitutes numbers.
00:50:44.000A gang is constituted at 500 members or less.
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00:54:22.000Last year on the border on our side, 15 dead cops.
00:54:27.000But it's kept real quiet, and anybody who even tries to go down there with binoculars and call police when these drug dealers and human smugglers come across.
00:54:40.000The feds have been down there trying to set up good Americans, black, white, Hispanic, it doesn't matter, who just go down there and try to defend us.
00:54:47.000And then, yeah, there's hundreds of thousands of these different Latin American gangs here in the US who were given liberation theology by their founders who all came out of universities.
00:55:02.000And it's the same thing written up by the big money men in Washington.
00:55:31.000What I want to know is why this government keeps considering gangs when they're actually armies and you're not supposed to assemble another army in the United States of America.
00:55:41.000Isn't there something in the Constitution that we should assemble a mercenary or missionary army here and take over these folks or what?
00:55:49.000I mean, we've got to fight and get our country back.
00:56:14.000Empires always want to play us off against each other, and your point is well taken.
00:56:18.000We're hearing we've got to live under a microscope, not have any rights, have Viper teams shake us down at the mall, federal troops, but the border's going to be wide open and we're going to let gangs kill cops.
00:56:32.000Your kid though, because it was a school shooting in 99, the schools are going to be total prisons.
00:56:37.000What is it about keeping your kids safe?
00:56:39.000It's about turning the kids into little federal brainwashing camps.
00:56:43.000And so again, the government isn't worried about a real war zone that the State Department admits is more dangerous than the West Bank of Israel.
00:56:50.000South Texas, in the border region, is more dangerous than areas of Israel.
00:56:56.000Well, what I'm trying to get to is, isn't there something in the Constitution that says that you're not allowed to assemble Other armies in the United States of America?
00:57:05.000Well, I mean, there are... Sir, there are hundreds of federal laws that say that these corporations can't steal $6 trillion.
00:57:29.000The opposite of what America's supposed to be.
00:57:31.000Okay, and another thing, look Alex, I live here in Louisiana, I went down to Katrina down there, and let me tell you what's going on down there.
00:57:39.000You've got these salesmen going in to sell these jobs, they're selling the jobs for a minimum amount of money, and they're making sure they sell the jobs so they get a commission, and then the owners are taking the other money, and what you have left down there as workers, and I swear to you, is crack heads, And crystal meth heads doing the job.
00:57:58.000The jobs are so horrible that the people are just up in arms down there.
01:02:21.000And I got that video, and if he doesn't think there were bombs in that building, I don't know how big his crack pipe is, but that's pathetic, because just on the site itself, 911eyewitness.com, and I hate plugging anything that's not yours.
01:02:41.000Oh, I don't ever mind when people plug things.
01:02:45.000I'll call every week and do the same thing, just a plug for their website.
01:02:49.000No, I just truly want people to learn the truth.
01:02:54.000I got this video, and this gentleman set up his camera on a tripod, and you can actually hear and see the dust and the bombs going off, and he puts a size... I mean, it's just an incredible video.
01:03:12.000Well, I appreciate that information, but I would just add to all of this that the caller yesterday who doesn't think 9-11 was an inside job at any level He was just trying to push my buttons, and I let him push my buttons.
01:03:28.000I mean, I guarantee you that guy didn't work where he said he worked, and that guy wasn't being... He was being disingenuous, and he was claiming that I'd said things I hadn't said, and it just didn't matter to him.
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01:08:49.000I was at a John Birch meeting last night.
01:08:52.000And they mentioned that, you know, I was wondering about getting, we need to get more of a network, we need to get people together on this in terms of setting up links and getting people informed about what's going on.
01:09:05.000I mean, you understand that there's been a change in the management, the top level management of the John Birch Society recently.
01:09:15.000Because I know they've gotten very staid and very molasses-like, and so many of their members wanted to get active and grow and do things, and it seemed that was always stifled, and so I'm encouraged to hear about the change.
01:09:46.000The only thing I have is some silver eagles.
01:09:50.000I gave some silver eagles to my chapter leaders.
01:09:52.000I said, please take care of this because the bank has really screwed me over recently.
01:09:58.000Anyway, the thing is that when I get more information, I'll be happy to concur with you.
01:10:03.000My calling is the religious aspect of the New World Order.
01:10:07.000My personal calling is, in Act 1826 it is written, They explain the way of God to him more adequately.
01:10:14.000And if you look at this in context, it refers to Apollos, a learned man with a thorough knowledge of scripture.
01:10:19.000My personal concern is that the vast majority of people that profess to be Christians have been told basically a half-truth, so that they don't know what it really means to be called to take up the cross.
01:10:39.000And I hope to send you a copy of my Gospel Presentation CD, where it's really tough love.
01:10:44.000It gets into the things that usually get left out for fear of, you know, if you're going to scare somebody away with the truth, then they wouldn't have been saved anyway.
01:10:52.000Well, I know the modern churches say everything's going to be fine, it's going to be a gravy train, submit to the government, never stand up against anybody, and the entire Bible is the complete opposite of that.
01:11:05.000And then there's these others that take the cost of discipleship and put a big minus sign on it with like the word faith movement thing.
01:11:12.000They're going to be crying peace and safety.
01:11:42.000People out there, they know a lot of you aren't going to buy into open borders, world government, total taxation, total regulation from a Democrat.
01:11:51.000But if a Republican gets put in, they can do even more than the Democrats do historically on average, in the aggregate.
01:11:59.000And conservatives will then defend big government policies.
01:12:03.000Now, of course, it's not conservative at all, but people just don't care.
01:12:09.000They get caught up in labels, kind of a rah-rah, like it's sports or football or something.
01:12:15.000But I talked about half-truths just yesterday.
01:12:24.000I discussed how These fake conservative talk show hosts will go, we've got to do something about immigration, the Mexican gangs are killing people, more cops have been killed, the borders shut down to tourism, it's so dangerous, but the borders still wide open to the smugglers of humans and drugs.
01:12:42.000We've got to get behind President Bush's plan The dumb Democrats, they're blocking it!
01:12:48.000But those talk show hosts know the Democrats wrote the amnesty plan that's now being repackaged, and Bush says it's not amnesty.
01:12:59.000Amnesty for six and a half million plus people that they're saying will be eligible, and then for years and years, anybody who wants to come here will be legal.
01:13:09.000Instantly, when you touch the ground, when your plane lands, I mean, forget anchor babies, where people come here and have babies so they can then get, you know, on five different types of welfare and have more kids and become, you know, legal themselves.
01:13:22.000This is where they can bring in skilled workers, unskilled workers, at unlimited levels.
01:13:28.000You think the limited levels have been bad?
01:13:32.000But people will debate with me who don't have the facts.
01:13:34.000I just heard, you know, the Sean Hannity's of the world tell them I mean, I've heard Sean Hannity actually say, we've got to do something about illegal immigration, we've got to stop the Democrats from blocking President Bush's plan.
01:13:55.000They come in and say, don't you deserve a choice?
01:13:58.000In public schools, you know, especially in failed schools.
01:14:01.000Shouldn't these poor black kids be able, or poor white kids, or poor Hispanic kids, be able to go to a better public school with a school voucher?
01:14:35.000You know, you hear this big push by fake conservative talk show hosts who've been well-paid and PR money and are out promoting their big books.
01:14:51.000The problem is they're going to give us a 23 percent sales tax And they're going to keep the income tax, and that's been the official plan for a decade.
01:14:59.000They're going to cut the income tax, rename it, change that basic tax system, so you'll have a flat tax of 10%, and then they'll jack that up, and a starting sales tax of 23%, that will then bring federal control into every single terminal, every single cash register, every single shopping cart.
01:15:20.000And it's a globalist plan, and I've seen their think tanks pushing it since I learned of it a decade ago.
01:15:25.000And now it's starting to come to fruition and Bush is mentioning it and saying it'd be a good idea.
01:15:31.000Oh, if Bush is saying it, do you think it's a good idea?
01:16:41.000And we are just in a lot of trouble having people like him running things.
01:16:46.000Yeah, and I wanted to, you know, the next time you have a CIA person on there or something, you know, one of these intelligence people, say, you know, what do you think this Why is this guy in charge?
01:16:54.000Harmitage, all of them, are really scary, scary, scary people.
01:17:00.000Yeah, and then, you know, and also I saw in one of your articles on the, um, about the CFR, where it said, um, hold on a second, where... Well, while you're finding it, let me just say this.
01:17:17.000You know, we always talk about how the CFR quote runs things, and the media makes jokes out of it.
01:17:22.000Five years ago, you never saw people say they were CFR on television.
01:17:26.000They just were CFR, and we all carry little maps with us with all their names, and we can open the chart up and go, yep, he's CFR.
01:17:33.000I mean, have you heard somebody on the nightly news go, world government's what we need, or gun control's what we need, or getting rid of our borders is what we need, or more cameras is what we need.
01:17:46.000And even their public book that they put out every two months called Foreign Affairs is, world government's good, getting rid of our borders is good.
01:17:53.000I mean, there's no conspiracy theory about it.
01:17:56.000These guys are letting it all hang out, but go ahead.
01:17:59.000Yeah, there was something about on the Charlie Rose Show, and that's a total forum for CFR people.
01:18:06.000He always has people on there, and Jim Lehrer reports, he always has CFR people on there.
01:18:14.000On the Charlie Rose Show, it said something in your article about where the head, the new head of the CFR was like, well now we can put people in, you know, the New World Order is now.
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01:23:14.000I want to say that terrorism is being used as a cattle prod to corral nations.
01:23:19.000If you look what happened to Poland after World War II, the way Russia took over Poland, they said there was terrorists there, they had to take it over.
01:23:27.000Ivan the Terrible regained his power through the Black Riders.
01:23:33.000And Iran will be invaded because it's the only peace.
01:23:37.000of the puzzle left to be placed in the reopening of the old silk trail.
01:23:42.000You can't run a global government without that old silk trail being opened up again.
01:23:48.000Well, you know what you're talking about.
01:23:49.000That's what Brzezinski, the National Security Advisor, said, is that they've got to get Iraq, Afghanistan, and then Iran.
01:23:57.000If you look, those three countries border each other, and there's also trillions and trillions of dollars of oil in each Only three empires were able to keep that open.
01:24:07.000Alexander the Great, the Romans, and then really those were the only two that really kept it open.
01:24:12.000Folks, the same people stealing their oil are stealing our freedoms.
01:24:17.000Only three empires was able to keep that open.
01:24:22.000Alexander the Great, the Romans, and then really those were the only two that really kept it open.
01:24:31.000The rest of the time, the Arabs were charging tolls.
01:24:36.000That's why Columbus had to go the other way.
01:24:38.000They were tired of fighting them people.
01:24:40.000And I'm just saying, as a people, the way we could avoid it is just don't participate.
01:24:48.000You know, we have to get businesses just to buy at home, build at home, get And just don't participate, because the only way it could exist is participation.
01:27:49.000We know the supposed hijackers were government agents trained at U.S.
01:27:52.000bases all over the country and being protected.
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01:27:57.000We know from the seismographs, the eyewitnesses, the firefighters, the engineers, and the video of the bomb blast that there were controlled demolitions inside the building.
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01:31:52.000They railed against the crowd with another ragtag band declaring independence.
01:32:14.000They take their body's hands on a bloody wall.
01:32:20.000And she was working with the FBI with all these NSA and CIA intercepts and wiretabs.
01:32:25.000And she was going back Post 9-11 to pre 9-11 intercepts and the story first broke when they were asking her to basically whitewash things.
01:32:35.000And then now to even try to tackle all the things that she's talked about, all the things that she has pointed people at, it just fits in with all the other intel I've had.
01:32:43.000You know, we've had FBI agents on, we've had David Shippers on representing Robert Wright, FBI, who was told he'd be arrested.
01:32:50.000He got up on C-SPAN and said, I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know.
01:32:54.000And then Larry Klaman steps up and says, all I can tell you is, the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens.
01:33:03.000And then of course, what Sue Bell Edmonds will do is she'll say, well, I can't really talk about the things I know, because they threatened her with arrest, but now they've had to kind of back off because it's all public now.
01:33:13.000But it's kind of like Vietnam where the government was bringing in drugs, or it's kind of like organized crime involved.
01:33:19.000You know, in this case, So, we're going to be talking to her for 45 minutes, the balance of this hour and about 20 minutes into the next hour, but I want to start out with about a minute and a half clip of her with Daniel Ellsberg at the Pentagon Papers.
01:33:34.000The Village Boys shot some video of her just having lunch on the street there, and we'll go ahead and roll this little clip and then go right to Cybele Edmonds.
01:33:45.000And I came to this point that I realized, many people out there, either within the Congress or within the Commission, the attitude is, they don't want to know the truth.
01:33:56.000As long as we don't hear it or see it, we're safe.
01:33:58.000So I wanted to find out who wants to hear the truth.
01:34:02.000Because we're not talking about issues that have to do with Somebody was incompetent and they missed a single call.
01:34:11.000We are looking at much deeper issues that in certain cases were prevented from being pursued.
01:34:19.000For example, I can't talk about the parts that I know about, and that is the list of witnesses, special agents, okay, be it with the FBI or ATF, and other translators who have come to us, to me, to family members, and their names and their contact information has been given to 9-11 Commission, and we can establish that these people were never contacted.
01:34:42.000And more people come forward, which we have been having people coming forward, not to the public, but to me.
01:35:42.000They know that for every piece that they will try to attempt to do with lies and scaring, I will put out one thing in there that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
01:36:06.000You know, some people don't know who you are, but most of our listeners out there probably know that you're one of the better known or probably the best known whistleblower, but we never got to learn that much specifically from you because they threatened to clap you in irons if you didn't shut up.
01:36:21.000Then you went and tried to jump through hoops and tried to testify to the 9-11 whitewash commission and to the congressional folks as well.
01:36:52.000I mean, we're talking about just an incredible thing here, and I'd like you today, I know everybody says this, but I think this is a good place for you to do it, to go further than you ever had before, because I think, frankly, if we don't get it all out there on the table, we may end up in an actual dictatorship.
01:37:07.000More and more people I really respect, from Ron Paul, to Paul Craig Roberts, to Ray McGovern, are saying we may actually be in a dictatorship soon.
01:37:18.000So, Cybele, thank you again for joining us.
01:37:22.000Run through it for people, just the basics, who you are, as much as you can tell us about your particular case, and then if you can't specifically talk about things you discovered while going through these intercepts, give us examples that are already declassified, things that are comparable.
01:37:45.000I'll start by telling a little bit about myself.
01:37:48.000Currently, I'm the founder and the president of National Security Whistleblowers Coalition.
01:37:53.000We are a non-profit organization, and our members are national security whistleblowers from the intelligence and law enforcement agencies.
01:38:02.000And these agencies include FBI, NSA, CIA, DIA, Department of Homeland Security and also DEA.
01:38:14.000Currently we have over 70 national security whistleblowers members and the average years of experience for our members is about 20 years, actually 21 to be exact.
01:38:24.000So we are looking at veteran agents and analysts from these agencies who have come forward Trying to point out to wrongdoings, government waste, fraud, abuse, or in some cases, criminal activities.
01:38:40.000And for doing the right thing, for doing this, they have been retaliated against.
01:38:46.000Like myself, many of them have been gagged, or they have been fired.
01:38:51.000So this is what our organization does.
01:38:54.000We are trying, and I'm emphasizing the word trying, because we haven't really succeeded yet.
01:39:00.000In getting the Congress to actually pay attention to the issue of national security whistleblowers, provide them with protection.
01:39:09.000Because without these people, Congress has no way of knowing... Without these people, we're going to end up with a dictatorship.
01:39:19.000Specifically, things are out of control.
01:39:22.000I mean, when an FBI agent gets up on C-SPAN and starts crying, and says, I've been threatened with arrest if I tell you what I know, and then his lawyer steps up and says, all he can say is, the Bushes, vacation, with the Bin Ladens.
01:39:35.000We've got it somewhere on the computer.
01:39:37.000Sumel, let's go back to your awakening.
01:39:40.000I mean, you were hired post 9-11 to go in, check all these interception things.
01:39:45.000I mean, when did you start to question, or what were you seeing?
01:39:49.000Actually, I started questioning and pointing out to serious cases, some of them involved intentional blocking of intelligence translations.
01:40:00.000Some of them involved intentionally withholding certain investigations that were under counter-intelligence from being transferred to counter-terrorism because they should have been transferred.
01:40:13.000They had information that's related to the terrorist activities and other criminal activities.
01:40:20.000Some of the issues involved certain security breach acts occurring within the FBI.
01:40:29.000So I started reporting these cases together with documents and other witnesses in the department.
01:40:36.000Within two months after I started working for the Bureau, around November-December 2001, And I want to emphasize internally, because a lot of people, they think whistleblowers are those who just see some wrongdoing, they jump on the street, and they start going... No, you are getting in trouble for even going to your superiors.
01:40:57.000I started with my superiors, then I went to their superiors, and in fact, I went all the way up the chain, all the way to Director Mueller himself in the FBI, within the FBI headquarters.
01:41:10.000And, uh, initially they were asking me not to pursue this.
01:41:14.000And, uh, in return they offered to give me a raise for my hourly rate.
01:41:22.000They also sent me a commendation letter recommending for a special agent position, which I have, uh, with the FBI.
01:41:29.000And, uh, when I did not cease, uh, continuing reporting these issues, in about February 2002, They, they being the FBI, accused me of reporting these issues to the Congress via email.
01:41:47.000I was trying to address these issues internally.
01:41:49.000So they sent several agents to my house, to my private house, to my private residence.
01:41:55.000And they confiscated my home computer, which happened to be my husband's computer too, because we share the same computer.
01:42:01.000And they confiscated the computer They took it apart to look for these so-called emails from me reporting to the Congress and of course I was not doing that.
01:42:44.000Really, the NSA was catching the chatter of impending terror attack, and Bush signed W1999, and he said to the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, you don't touch this or you're going to jail.
01:43:20.000Meanwhile, meanwhile, Sabel, meanwhile, there's headlines nationwide of government had prior knowledge, NSA knew, but Bush and Condi were out jumping around saying, we never heard anything.
01:43:34.000I decided, okay, this is the time to go to the Congress, to the appropriate committee, which is the Judiciary Committee, with the Senate, because the Senate Judiciary Committee has the oversight of the FBI, Department of Justice.
01:43:47.000They've got total security clearances.
01:43:49.000They're already accusing you of something you haven't done, so you're going to try to up the ante.
01:43:53.000So I went to these people within the committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee.
01:43:58.000I briefed their staff who had clearance.
01:44:00.000I went inside the security facility and gave them documents.
01:44:04.000And about two weeks after that, I was terminated without any reason being cited.
01:44:10.000In fact, the letter I received from the Department of Justice said Your contract is being terminated as of this date purely for the convenience of the government and whatever that means.
01:44:27.000Now Sabel Edmonds, this is a long story then of what happened, and certainly you've been winning this fight, but I specifically want to get into some articles I've read and some things I've heard you talk about on air.
01:44:36.000Let's get right into the nitty-gritty of this, because now the things you've quietly talked about are now in the news.
01:44:43.000Congressmen stealing $800 million, fake defense contracting companies, Dennis Hastert connected into all of this.
01:44:50.000Because I remember you two years ago talking about, well, I can't tell you specifically what I saw, but it's like this case with government drug dealing.
01:44:57.000It's like this case with, well, it's like DynCorp coming out in Chicago Tribune, kidnapping masses of children, white slavery.
01:45:06.000I mean, get into specifically some of the things that elements of this government are now doing and don't want us to know about.
01:45:15.000Well, bits and pieces of information, as you just pointed out, have been coming out.
01:45:21.000And this is from reporters, investigative reporters.
01:45:24.000Well, let's start with the recent Vanity Fair article.
01:45:28.000When I say recent, it came out in August 2005.
01:45:31.000And the Vanity Fair article, this was an article on my case and on me.
01:45:36.000And this article, based on the sources inside the Congress and inside the FBI, confirmed That Dennis Hazard was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars of cash.
01:46:35.000People say, you know, Bush is now declaring he has the right to violate any law he wants and to spy on the American people and the media focuses on little bitty teeny things like Foreign calls into the U.S.
01:46:47.000when publicly it's going on, domestically against political enemies, declassified.
01:46:51.000I mean, why aren't they going, is Bush allowed to spy on his political enemies?
01:47:19.000Other articles have... Well, Sabel, you've also... I mean, just to digress, you've talked about, in the past, about how it's this shadowy mix of organized crime and government and contractors.
01:47:41.000As I said, some pieces of information have come out in the press.
01:47:44.000The same media that you're saying is not putting this information out, it has come out.
01:47:48.000And one of the organizations, again, as I was talking about... Well, Sabal, by that, I mean, to clarify, it'll come out in one newspaper, but it won't get national traction where tonight on CNN, you know, George Bush has the Pentagon watching local mothers' groups.
01:48:04.000I mean, you know... Well, Alex, I disagree.
01:48:05.000I think it would if there was enough public pressure.
01:48:08.000Obviously, we don't have enough people putting the pressure on the media.
01:48:13.000After all, the media responds to this whole law of supply and demand, okay?
01:48:18.000And if there are, you know, there's public outrage out there, if there are, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions... Well, Sabella, there was... I mean, I'm not trying to argue with you.
01:48:27.000I mean, I agree that we have power, but, I mean, take the Pentagon Papers.
01:48:44.000But again, I'm saying if we don't have enough people, if you look at the recent polling and it says that 49% of people find nothing wrong with this illegal eavesdropping, that also answers that question.
01:48:58.000So you have those who don't respond, then you have 49% who don't care and they're saying this is just fine.
01:49:26.000I mean, I'm just curious from you, what are some of the other issues?
01:49:28.000Well, I'm here to answer your questions.
01:49:30.000I'm here to talk about several issues, from national security whistleblowers to the facts that are being covered up, and we'll cover them as you ask them.
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01:53:26.000And it's just really, really scary what's happening.
01:53:29.000So we'll go back to Cybele in just a minute.
01:53:31.000She's going to be with us into the next hour, and there's a lot of other facets we're going to cover.
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01:55:32.000Reason number one, to protect certain diplomatic relations of the United States.
01:55:39.000By the way, I don't want to glaze over that.
01:55:40.000That is unprecedented to have the executive gag the legislative when the legislative, clearly even under a Federalist view, supersedes the executive in its powers.
01:56:39.000And you have this unwritten policy that says that you only go after the low-level, street-level drug dealers and you will not touch the middlemen and those people on the top.
01:56:50.000Well, they have been following the similar unwritten rules with the investigations of this terror case, with the September 11th terror attack.
01:56:59.000And that is, intentionally, and I want to underline, intentionally, they are not going after the middleman and the people on top.
01:57:07.000So to this day, the American public, they have not heard The real culprit behind 9-11, the money laundering and certain narcotic and illegal weapon procurement involved with some of these actors who happen to be the middle man and the top people in the game.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000I really want to thank our courageous guest for her amazing courage.
01:58:13.000A wonderful lady, very intelligent and informed, and also not bad to look at.
01:58:19.000One of the guys that works here wanted me to say that to her.
01:58:23.000But just a great person, Cybele Edmonds.
01:58:26.000And she, of course, worked for the FBI with these NSA and CIA intercepts, overseas intercepts, domestic intercepts, ran into just all sorts of horrible things, and tried to complain inside her agency.
01:58:40.000They raided her, tried to burn her, then she went to Congress.
01:58:43.000And many others have now gone public backing up what she has said, and her case has gone to the Supreme Court.
01:58:48.000If she says one thing they don't like, they'll try to clap her in irons, but let's see them try that.
01:58:53.000You know, that'll really turn the public against them, and the good news is people are waking up.
01:59:19.000I've had people that have witnessed it.
01:59:20.000We've had so many DEA people on, and the head DEA agent for Latin America.
01:59:25.000I've interviewed CIA agents, Terry Reid, who were there unloading the cocaine at Mina, Arkansas, with Bill Clinton driving up, getting his own personal supply.
01:59:34.000I mean, it's admitted with Oliver North, all of them.
01:59:58.000It's one thing to point out that these things have macro-level government involvement, but That's overgeneralizing it, because you have elements... You mean criminal elements within certain compartments of government?
02:00:11.000Again, it's not right to just macro-level say, it's government.
02:00:15.000Well, you know, George Norrie always corrects me when I say that, but I'm just... I'm not going to let the government get around it.
02:00:20.000The point is, is the government's gotten rotten and corrupt, and it's pockmarked and full of worms, basically.
02:00:29.000Well, again, as I said, there are certain elements.
02:00:32.000And some of them are outside the government who work closely with the government.
02:00:36.000But regardless, they're being protected.
02:00:39.000Well, they are being protected because, as I said, these elements are involved with different branches of government.
02:00:45.000And these articles that have come out, that have pointed out, you know, you see certain links between organizations, lobbying organizations like AIPAC and American Turkish Council, ATC, And also American-Turkish associations with millions of dollars that they play with.
02:01:07.000And to ask and pose the questions that way.
02:01:11.000And to give a good example of this, for culprits who are involved in the cases that I am trying to bring to the public's attention, or I've tried, and so far I have been gagged, a very good The next lobbying firm to look at is International Advisors, Inc.
02:01:33.000started in 1996-1995 by Richard Perle and Douglas Bight.
02:01:37.000They registered with the Department of State as agents of Turkey, okay?
02:01:43.000Although they were doing things for Pakistan and also for Saudi Arabia and to a certain degree for Israel, And International Advisors Bank, headed by Richard Perle and Douglas Spice, with no website, no services listed, have been playing with millions of dollars.
02:01:59.000And so these are architects of the Iraq invasion, meanwhile registered as agents of foreign governments, running around with bags of cash.
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02:05:53.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:05:56.000I'll tell you, I'm like an octopus or something.
02:06:10.000Ever seen those cartoons where the octopus is cutting somebody's hair with one tentacle and mowing the yard with the other and cooking dinner with another and smoking a cigar with the other and...
02:07:27.000We can talk about those instances, and Sabelle can discuss them.
02:07:31.000Sabel, I mean, you've gotten into Dennis Hastert and how it's in Vanity Fair with the reports of him and all these payoffs.
02:07:37.000We have different congressmen going to jail now for stealing $800 million plus.
02:07:43.000They're admitting mainstream news and it affects a bunch of senators, a bunch of congressmen, but somehow none of them are now getting in trouble.
02:07:50.000Is this good news to you, though, that at least some people are getting in trouble and it looks like their wall of corruption, the scales on the belly of the dragon, may have some soft spots, Cybill?
02:09:13.000Yes, and for stations that didn't carry the last segment, you went through some other examples of Richard Perle and other architects of the war who worked in the Pentagon simultaneously being registered agents of foreign governments.
02:09:27.000Now, I mean, that's openly illegal on its face.
02:09:30.000You can't be a registered agent of a foreign government and then have a high-level administration position.
02:09:38.000In fact, the complaints were filed by Pentagon, by the Department of Defense in 1998 by several organizations pointing out exactly what you just said.
02:11:17.000That's why you have your radio show, right?
02:11:20.000Because you're trying to point out to these criminal activities, these un-American practices on our behalf, by our government, I would say by all three branches or elements within each branch of the government.
02:11:36.000And hopefully more and more people will get to listen and wake up and hear the wake up bell.
02:11:41.000Well, it should scare everybody when a government goes bad.
02:11:44.000It's the most dangerous thing in history.
02:11:46.000And these evil people that are in the government are really trying to get total control and perfect a perfect despotism upon us.
02:11:53.000But I want to bring up another point to you.
02:11:55.000Did you see the Chicago Tribune, two articles three weeks ago?
02:12:01.000Where the Governor even had to come out and decry the Defense Department.
02:12:08.000Where, admittedly, DynCorp and Halliburton are running white slaverings all over Europe and in the Middle East.
02:12:15.000From using men as slaves they grab out of villages just to build houses, to small children they kidnap for other reasons.
02:12:22.000And it talked about how there are top lobbyists on the Hill openly lobbying the Congress To not block the Pentagon from allowing this to go on.
02:12:33.000I mean, you talk about lobbyists for criminals.
02:12:35.000We have lobbyists openly lobbying for white slavery.
02:12:39.000And it's not Alex Jones or Sabel Edmonds saying that.
02:12:41.000It's the Chicago Tribune and the Governor of Illinois.
02:13:07.000Believe me, it was in the Chicago Tribune.
02:13:10.000Did you hear that out of the Chicago papers about John Yoo, one of the chief advisors to Bush, just like Gonzalez, our new Attorney General was, saying the President is authorized to torture even people's children.
02:13:25.000And then he got asked about it in Chicago in front of 2,000 students and he said, yeah, the President has the power to do that to children and crush their body parts.
02:15:11.000I've got a few final questions for you.
02:15:13.000And again, I'm so honored that you've spent this much time with us already.
02:15:16.000Going back, just You know, over the last three or four years since you went public, we're forced to go public because they wouldn't fix the problems inside when you try to do it through channels.
02:15:26.000Talking to other whistleblowers, other people in government who haven't gone public yet, I would imagine you have talked to a lot of them.
02:15:32.000Have you talked to any of the FBI agents that have been threatened with arrest?
02:15:37.000Well then, tell us some of the things they've said to you.
02:15:41.000Alex, I mean, that will take an entire show to go through those.
02:15:45.000And if you go to our website, and that will be our organization's website, which is www.nswbc.org, we provide a lot of information about these cases.
02:15:56.000And unfortunately, the Congress has had this information, and they keep giving it to the Congress, you know, and they are not doing anything.
02:16:04.000That's why, now that you pointed out to my website, justicecitizen.com, We just started a petition there asking for citizens to sign up, saying that we demand open congressional hearings.
02:16:17.000And I'm emphasizing open, because all the hearings on my case have taken place behind closed doors, under classified hearings.
02:16:24.000But open public hearings... And then you tell them what you know.
02:17:04.000They never end, but that's the reason I want your listeners to sign this petition, because You will hear much more when we start pursuing the Congress with these signatures and saying it's not one citizen or hundred citizens asking this.
02:17:16.000We are talking about hundreds of thousands if not millions of people asking for this.
02:17:21.000And then hopefully we'll get the information out.
02:17:23.000Alright, well Sabel Edmonds, thank you again for joining us and I hope to get you back up in the future as things develop.
02:17:30.000I've got some comments about all of this when we get back.
02:17:36.000Concerning Bill Clinton, Al Gore, how it ties into Bush.
02:17:39.000We want to stay with us for that and then we're going to take your calls and cover the Iran situation after that.
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02:22:08.000They all take vacations together and hang out, and the Bush family calls Bill Clinton their surrogate son, and he calls Barbara his mother.
02:22:17.000When he goes back to MENA, Clinton was a known intelligence officer and was running the drugs in and out of there for the crime families, going back from even the time before he became governor.
02:22:31.000And so, right at the key point where there's this big police state and the NSA and the rest of this, Al Gore comes out and says, you're destroying the Constitution.
02:22:40.000You're setting up a despotic dictatorship.
02:22:43.000Well, see, if Bush's approval rating is down at 35%, Actually having a Democrat attack him will polarize, and a lot of Republicans that were starting to wake up, I mean a lot of Republicans are against Bush when he's at 35%, suddenly you see his numbers start going back up to 40, 45%.
02:23:01.000Because everybody knows Al Gore is bad news, so if Al Gore is coming out and attacking, then see George Bush must be good.
02:23:10.000And all of this is just a legitimizing of the spying.
02:23:13.000Did you notice they talk about the least thing?
02:23:15.000Oh, some foreign phone calls of the US.
02:23:17.000Now it's in the back of the newspaper that the NSA is watching the mothers that complain about recruiters at the high school and the army sends out regular army to spy on citizens and all of this is going on nationwide for decades.
02:23:32.000So they tell you about the least thing that sounds legitimate.
02:24:20.000For people who don't believe that slick politicians that have climbed their ways up to committee chairmanships don't engage in theater, I mean low-level cops when they pull somebody over and want to play good cop, bad cop, they engage in theater.
02:24:34.000And I've had so many politicians in the chair, in the studio, or I've talked to so many over the phone line and so many in the TV station studio.
02:24:42.000I mean, they've admitted, yes, most of it is pre-decided beforehand, but a politician has got constituents that he's got to act like he's doing something for.
02:24:53.000And until we realize that and stop loving the Democrats, stop loving the Republicans, listen, I'm able to deprogram liberals.
02:25:01.000I'm able to convince them that government education is bad, that gun control is bad, that open borders are bad, because I use the real issues, not the political football issues.
02:25:10.000And I've got, you know, the city of Austin, literally thousands and thousands of liberals that I've met have gone out and bought guns, deprogrammed themselves, because I'm not a hypocrite.
02:25:23.000Will they listen to one word I had to say if I was defending Bob Dole back in the mid-nineties or if I was defending George Bush today while I was attacking Democrats?
02:25:35.000I will equally attack them when they're in the wrong.
02:25:38.000And I will praise them when they're in the right.
02:25:40.000Like the governor of Illinois, bad on guns, good on exposing the government kidnapping rings.
02:25:46.000So, for people, I know a lot of new stations are joining us on a daily basis, I'm just trying to get new listeners to understand my philosophy.
02:26:50.000And I can show you the documents where the government in the 60s financed your fake liberation theology, your whole La Reconquista, La Raza Mecha garbage, and you don't even know it came out of a Madison Avenue PR campaign.
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02:31:35.000It's got to get dark, I guess, before people finally wake up.
02:31:39.000And I want to give you some of the new developments with the build-up for war with Iran.
02:31:43.000We'll also have time to take five calls.
02:31:46.000Chris being the last of them, they'll have time to get to here in just a few minutes.
02:31:52.000But before I do that, you know, I don't have a lot of sponsors.
02:31:55.000I turn down sponsors, frankly, every day that approach me.
02:32:00.000I only believe in real things that really have been proven to me personally, and for almost two years, because for some reason Marty, he was sponsoring the network, so he sent me a two-year supply, two big boxes of soap, and we used it for about a year and a half, and we used a lot of stuff that was gone.
02:32:48.000If you knew how deadly things like detergents were, how bad they are, how they eat your clothes.
02:32:55.000And it even ends up costing you more money.
02:32:59.000Then if you try to go out at the fancy organic stores, which we have here in Austin, most cities don't, to this level, you'll pay more for citrus or plant-based, vegetable-based stuff.
02:33:09.000It works better and it's great, but it costs more than the toxic garbage.
02:33:13.000Well, Cal Ben Pure Soap is on average about 85% less than even the mainstream toxic stuff and way, way cheaper than the expensive organic stuff, which this stuff is.
02:33:26.000So, I mean, it's just an incredible deal.
02:34:19.000Most people don't know that because it's an industrial word.
02:34:22.000Slotting means that the manufacturers, the billion dollar manufacturers... They make big agreements and muscle out and say we'll give you even lower prices if you refuse competition.
02:34:33.000People also wonder why there's so many varieties and smells of the same thing or ten varieties of Gatorade.
02:34:39.000It's meant to take over the shelving in slotting, right?
02:34:43.000Well, more than that, they're leasing and renting the space, and they control the shelf space and all the markets.
02:34:53.000So what we're doing, we decided we will be factory direct.
02:34:57.000Without the middleman, without the distributor, without the jobber, without the wholesaler, without the salesman.
02:35:03.000Now people that know buy from you, finer hotels, hospitals, people that want high quality products, and also save money, you've been around since 1947, but in the last few years, you've been going factory direct.
02:36:24.000This is why I try to get the information Out to the consumer.
02:36:28.000I got a special, special deal for your listeners.
02:36:31.000Alright, give us the special deal, Marty.
02:36:33.000How does $1.69 a week strike you for all your laundry soap, bath soap, air soap, dish soap, cleaning accessories for 208 weeks?
02:36:44.000and eight weeks a dollar sixty nine a week multiply a dollar sixty nine by two hundred and eight weeks you come up with three hundred and fifty dollars for a four-year supply two hundred and ten pounds of triple concentrated pure soap products equal to two thousand pounds in the supermarket and And you've got everything there.
02:38:02.000Well, then my family must be different, because in the past we bought all that stuff.
02:38:05.000It's so expensive, and so what do you spend on average?
02:38:09.000I mean, you spend $200 a week at the grocery store, 20% of that.
02:38:13.000Yeah, I mean, so you're talking about massive savings here.
02:38:16.000$300 and something bucks for a five-year supply, or a four-and-a-half-year supply.
02:38:19.000What if I want just a year The year supply we have, that's a 65 pound box of triple concentrated pure soap products, that is including the freight, the shipping, the insurance, the handling, $165.
02:38:34.000Well folks, listen, I only promote stuff that's real and I actually sought Marty out, I guess he sought me out years ago and it was a two year delay for me to Take him as a sponsor.
02:38:47.000I just, frankly, at the end of the day, I care about credibility more than making a dime, so I'm not going to peddle a bunch of, you know, magic cures and stuff here on the air.
02:38:56.000This is just good old-fashioned, real soap, organic, made out of real products.
02:39:00.000They've got all the certificates and documents on their website.
02:39:26.000And I've got some other organic soaps and things my wife uses that she buys at the store because we always forget and aren't in the habit of ordering soap over the telephone.
02:39:34.000Listen, they make it hard to be healthy and not get ripped off.
02:39:46.000If you want a catalog, call and get one.
02:39:50.000What do they want, one of those starter packs there, Marty?
02:39:54.000Well, the catalogs are free, which covers heavy, heavy details of what we're talking about.
02:39:58.000Yeah, it's a nice catalog, but what about the, you can call and get a free one of those folks, but what about the, what about the little starter pack?
02:40:05.000We've got a, what we call a one to two month package.
02:40:08.000It's a, we call it a one month tote bag.
02:40:11.000It's got four bars of our Pure Soap, 18 ounces of our Laundry Soap, 16 ounces of our Triple Concentrated Cocoa Butter Shampoo, and 16 ounces of our Liquid cream soap for pots, pans, utensils, floors, windows, everything.
02:41:03.000You can see photos of the different packages, the different deals, and there's a big banner on the left-hand side of InfoWars.com to CalBenPureSoap.com or 800-340-7091.
02:41:12.000What if somebody wants to, say, fax you an order for a free catalog?
02:41:44.000So we spent, what, eight minutes with Marty.
02:41:46.000And we have him on once a month, folks.
02:41:48.000I don't normally sit here and infomercial people, but on a few items we do.
02:41:51.000I mean, the Made in America high-quality water filters, where you save about $100 buying them to the distributor than you do buying them at the health food store or at the camping supply.
02:41:59.000Videos, books, information to wake people up, and stuff like pure Made in America soap.
02:42:56.000We've interviewed the physicists and the underwriter laboratory people, and we've talked to the experts who built it, and it was built of structural hardened steel that begins to redden Uh, and weekend at 3,000 degrees, and the hottest the jet fuel can burn is 1,700 degrees.
02:43:16.000So it's physically impossible for that to happen.
02:43:19.000Remember last year, the Madrid building that burned for two days with 100-foot white-hot flames, and not even small supports collapsed?
02:43:26.000Not even inch-round steel collapsed, much less the giant pillars?
02:44:14.000Yeah, I wanted to talk to your guest, but I didn't... She's gone, so maybe you can answer this question.
02:44:21.000Last night, I was listening to GCN, and I heard that they could... With the Constitution, That they could take over the government and some 800 judges that are crooked.
02:44:55.000The Declaration of Independence says that when the government becomes destructive of the things listed in that Declaration of Independence, the people's life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, property, habeas corpus, common law, it isn't just our right, it's our duty.
02:45:11.000The problem is if we try to go physically remove this criminal government before we've told everybody it's criminal, They will be able to wrangle a lot of the military and others into following them, and that'll accelerate their takeover.
02:45:31.000Do we have a right to go change the government and do it?
02:45:35.000Yes, but we need to have upstanding, informed, focused Americans who have told their case Who have methodically gone and educated other people, which is what the Founding Fathers did.
02:45:48.000You take the Republic of Texas, and I don't mean everybody in it, but a lot of them I've met and seen.
02:46:02.000There's nothing but generals and insane people declaring them supreme rulers and writing insane letters to France saying they're the embassy.
02:46:10.000And, you know, you have five different presidents all fighting with each other.
02:46:13.000The Founding Fathers didn't go, we're the Presidents.
02:46:15.000They said, you're criminals, you're out of control, we're going to set up our own colonial governments on a state-by-state basis.
02:46:21.000It wasn't until years into the war that they then said, we're going to be a new nation and a new country.
02:46:28.000And so, you know, the problem is we've been led by the wrong people.
02:46:32.000And I'm not even saying I'm of the caliber to lead people.
02:46:36.000It just needs to be serious and focused.
02:46:55.000To say, we're still in the Union, but we disregard your 10th Amendment violating overarching systems.
02:47:02.000We redeclare the 10th Amendment sovereignty we had as part of this Confederacy.
02:47:08.000And I don't mean the Confederacy of the 1860s.
02:47:11.000I mean the true Confederacy that was the 13 colonies before that.
02:47:14.000Then that gets all into political science.
02:47:17.000But we need to set about first showing people what the Bill of Rights and Constitution is, showing how it's been violated, and then going to reprove this government.
02:47:26.000So many people focus at the federal level.
02:47:27.000You're not going to take their tallest, most powerful fortress first.
02:47:32.000You've got to take their lesser kingdoms and domains first, back into the people's control.
02:47:37.000That's your county, your city, your water district, your city council.
02:47:45.000The state legislature seats, the state senate seats, the state assemblyman seats, the seats at all of these levels can be used.
02:47:57.000The sheriffs are absolutely paramount.
02:48:00.000And so at those points, and that is happening by the way, you're just not going to hear the enemy admit it's going on, but we have heralded these wonderful happenings Here on the broadcast we have many of these sheriffs and state reps and others on that are talking just like I am.
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02:51:41.000By the way, folks, tomorrow night I'm going to be on Coast to Coast, staying tomorrow night I'm going to be on Coast to Coast, staying in for three hours talking about this whole police state spy and And I'm, of course, going to be doing an interview with Tex Marshley on his show, which I'll air in about a week.
02:52:18.000Yeah, I was listening to Canadian Broadcasting this morning, and they interviewed a professor at the University of Texas, and his name is Dr. Kozel.
02:52:29.000I'm not sure exactly how that's spelled, but it sounds like K-O-Z-E-L.
02:53:42.000They want to use us for people who are, and eventually it'll be administered by court decision to determine whether you're telling the truth or not.
02:55:55.000And then I can also go to people you've tried to get involved in your operations, say like emergency managers who aren't under national security, and they can tell me everything you told them.