Alex Jones talks about Iran and WMDs, the dark side of the world, and why the First Amendment is being trampled on by the mainstream media and big business. Alex also discusses the Chinese government's New Year's Eve march in the USA and much more!
00:00:33.000It is the Wednesday edition of this worldwide transmission against tyranny in defense of liberty and human dignity and control of our own personal destinies.
00:00:47.000Something that God Almighty saw fit to give mankind, free will, the new world disorder, the new world dehumanization slave grid, is seeking to steal from us.
00:01:02.000And it is blasphemous by every definition of the word.
00:01:07.000France to Iran, stop nukes, then meet.
00:01:11.000France is getting up and saying, maybe you need to be attacked, even those liberal Frenchies.
00:01:20.000Iran proposes new talks with Europeans who are mostly dismissive and are saying, we're the Anglo-American establishment, prepare to be micro-nuked.
00:01:32.000Israel will not allow Iran to obtain WMDs!
00:01:38.000And I heard Jack Blood yesterday read a great article from Information Clearinghouse.
00:01:41.000It's up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:02:46.000And there have been the last few days on average about 20 people Well, it's like 15 one day, 20 last night, 10 the day before that, 30 the day before that.
00:03:08.000I mean, it's just the country is sitting on top of some of the biggest deposits in the world, and they have plenty of it in the tanks, but because it's a corrupt country, they can't get it to the people, so they're turning their gas off in Moscow, and people are dying in mass.
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00:08:27.000And you see, I like to cover this subject because it's not speculation about HAARP and government weather control and advanced weather modification using antennas to ionize different layers of the atmosphere and manipulate the Gulf Stream and the Jet Stream, which certainly that has been declassified to a certain degree.
00:09:08.000With him shooting SAM missiles at him.
00:09:11.000And back in the late 60's, they had the Stanford Research Institute look at the findings that he'd shown over the last decade.
00:09:20.000Because he was flying into typhoons in the late 50s with 225 mile an hour winds, ladies and gentlemen.
00:09:26.000You think those storm hunters are tough that fly into 150 mile an hour hurricanes?
00:09:30.000He was flying into 200 plus mile an hour typhoons out over the Pacific, where the water's a lot warmer, a lot longer, and they get going, in some cases, upwards of 275 miles an hour has been recorded.
00:09:48.000But why is this interview so important?
00:09:53.000He couldn't talk until just a few years ago, five years ago, when part of the projects he was involved in, and part of the projects that he commanded.
00:10:01.000I mean, in his career, he personally briefed President Johnson in his career.
00:10:07.000He commanded entire research bases, some of the largest in the country, like the Naval Research Laboratory.
00:10:20.000Why is this so important, what's coming up in the next hour with Ben Livingston?
00:10:26.000It's important because this naval officer developed and proved and tested cloud seeding that had been around since he was a young man, even before he got into the Navy, when he went to school to be a meteorologist and to be a cloud physicist.
00:10:46.000That's the more classical term for them.
00:10:50.000It is conclusive fact, certified, that they can take, and he said this privately off air to me, now he's gone more public, and I'm making a documentary that he's included in, you know, he'd say on air, well, we can knock a hurricane down by 30, 40 percent from 150 miles an hour in a Category 5, or Category 4, down to a Category 2, down to a Category 1 with 80 to 100 mile an hour winds.
00:11:17.000Frankly, that's what they got certified back in the sixties, and clearly they were able to kill hurricanes that were out threatening the east coast of the United States.
00:11:32.000They like to go with the lowest approvable standard and facts that they can show.
00:11:41.000But now, he said they can deliver hundreds of times per airplane the particulate matter, the nuclei, that is needed inside the storm energy centers that energize.
00:11:54.000There's normally about four to five of them in a large hurricane.
00:11:57.000They go in and attack those with just a few aircraft, and they can knock them dead.
00:12:02.000They can keep them from even coming in to shore.
00:12:04.000They can force them to dump their water and their energy out in the Gulf, or out in the Atlantic, or out in the Pacific.
00:12:10.000And they're not letting private companies, the Navy, they're not letting anybody do this.
00:12:17.000This is old, proven, old hat, just, it's like the steam engine.
00:12:23.000I mean, it's guaranteed, it's been proven, and it's been, quote, called obsolete and just ignored.
00:12:32.000And Ben will tell you why he thinks this is going on.
00:12:34.000He's talked to some people in government.
00:12:37.000Ben will tell you, he said on this show, and privately, I've talked to him and he said a lot more.
00:12:42.000Now, he called me up a few weeks ago and he said, I want to come on and say even more.
00:12:46.000I'm getting really mad about this, because you ought to hear him in private.
00:12:49.000Well, you're going to probably hear, I guess, some of that today, because he loves America and he wants to be, I guess, somewhat dutiful towards the government and things he swore not to talk about, even though they're now, a lot of them, declassified.
00:13:03.000Some of it still is classified, but he's angry.
00:13:06.000And he has said already on this broadcast that it's because...
00:13:13.000They want to hand out two hundred billion dollars to their buddies like Halliburton that's already getting tens of billions just in the New Orleans area.
00:13:23.000And according to all the reports is absolutely doing a horrible job and scamming everyone.
00:13:29.000Well, they've already been found guilty of that and had to pay a bunch of fines and fees, but it's always a slap on the wrist.
00:13:34.000You know, here's ten billion, but oh, we caught you being bad.
00:13:37.000You gotta pay a fifty million, sixty million dollar Punishment fine?
00:13:45.000So, it'd be like if the cops caught you stealing money out of a cash register at a 7-Eleven and a cop runs up behind you, puts a gun to your head, and says, Listen, hands up, get up against the wall, and then he grabs the bag of money away from you, and takes $20 out of there when there's $1,000 in there, and goes, okay, now you're punished, and gives you the bag of money so you can run on down the street.
00:14:13.000One thing they really got right in the new movie, Syriana, that is admittedly based on a true story,
00:14:19.000is that uh... there's this federal investigator and then he's working with the lawyer for the big oil company firm and the lawyer for the oil company firm just says look we're not uh... he's sitting there talking to the government uh... individual and he says look i understand that the government's not looking for uh... real uh... crime-fighting a real end to corruption you just want the illusion of it you just want uh... the uh...
00:15:10.000Does the government make Do the contractors that feed on the government and surround the government, do they make more money if we're in Iraq a year and fix the problems and let them have elections and pull out?
00:15:27.000Or do the globalists and their interests make more money and get more power?
00:15:32.000Does the government gain more power and gain a military beachhead right in the middle of the Middle East if we're there 20 years, 50 years, 100 years?
00:15:44.000All the rhetoric, all the propaganda means absolutely nothing.
00:15:49.000And the same thing goes for the technologies that are 100% proven to massively weaken hurricanes and massively reduce the amount of water that they dump on cities.
00:16:04.000And the evidence clearly shows you can flat out knock them out and just turn them into a tropical depression.
00:16:17.000Because out of that disaster, FEMA gets larger, we get conditioned that the feds are there to save us, the politicians get to hand out hundreds of billions of dollars to their cronies and lackeys and buddies, and without ever even hearing my radio show, that's the exact same conclusion that Ben Livingston came to, and that's why he's gone public And is now criticizing the government.
00:16:43.000And again, you ought to hear him in private, but I'll respect him and won't say some of the things that he's told me in private, because I have met him in person and had a chance to video tape an interview with him, and of course put it on PrisonPlanet.tv and air it here locally in Austin.
00:16:57.000We also got him on Coast to Coast AM to talk about what's happening.
00:17:01.000But that's what we do on this broadcast, is I tend to focus in on the issues that we can prove.
00:17:07.000And what we can prove Is that the government knows that they can knock out these hurricanes and they're not doing it.
00:17:18.000And CNN and ABC News and the rest of them aren't going to talk about it.
00:17:57.000So we'll spend about 30 minutes with our guest, the father of weather warfare, Ben Livingston, coming up in the next hour.
00:18:06.000Then we've got Dr. John Breeding joining us.
00:18:11.000And of course he's a psychologist, he's an author, he has exposed the Ritalin, the Prozac, the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, what they're doing to our children, how they're increasing depression, increasing suicide, and of course he's gone from being a voice in the wilderness decades ago to now advisories, advisements being on the advisories that are in the serotonin, the well Nutrient-type manipulation drugs.
00:18:40.000Because they admit it massively increases suicide.
00:19:07.000Now Illinois passed a law to start forcibly testing all pregnant women, so it'll start into the adults.
00:19:14.000How are the federal government and their minions implementing this with the drug companies at the state level?
00:19:20.000Even in states where the legislation has, the enabling legislation that couples with the federal legislation It's being shot down in many states, but still it's being implemented, even though there's not a local law to couple with it.
00:19:34.000So that's coming up in the third hour.
00:19:36.000We'll have reading for the entire hour.
00:19:38.000Tomorrow we've got Dylan Avery, the director of the great 9-11 documentary, Loose Change 2, that we carry at Infowars.com.
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00:24:54.000And then every week or two, I see fake reports where different neocon publications will say, Iran has threatened to attack Israel and nuke them!
00:25:06.000And then there'll be a retraction a day later in the back of the newspaper, Iran's very upset and clearly the translation has been redone.
00:28:43.000Four months ago, the top Chinese general, the head of war planning, number three in their government, Number three in the government held a press conference with over a hundred top reporters, Wall Street Journal, Time, Newsweek, and he said, we are prepared to launch an attack and destroy 200 U.S.
00:29:04.000If you get involved in any Chinese protectorates or possessions or in any of our national security or national interest projects, we will launch a preemptive strike and destroy 200 of your largest cities.
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00:29:29.000Even little towns like mine are high on the hit list.
00:29:32.000Multiple missiles are targeted on my family right now!
00:29:37.000But that's not a problem with their top general, number three in the Chinese government, saying he will kill me and my family, and your family, and our government just loves him!
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00:32:59.000All right, let me hurry through the Iran situation, and then we'll go to John, let me hurry through the Iran situation, and then we'll go to John, Mandy Gill, Jason, Jeff, Thank you.
00:33:21.000We do have two great guests coming up today to talk about forced drugging of our children.
00:33:26.000With the guidelines to do it actually written up by the drug companies.
00:33:29.000They write the laws and then the Congress passes them.
00:33:46.000He's coming on with us in the next hour because the government knows how to stop hurricanes but isn't doing it.
00:33:53.000And there are tropical storms now in the Atlantic and just a few weeks ago in the Caribbean when there's not even supposed to be during this time of year.
00:34:01.000It's 20-something below zero Celsius in Moscow.
00:34:33.000How he kidnapped a bunch of South Korean starlets and raped and killed them.
00:34:38.000I mean, he literally is like in a bad movie where, you know, in the future there's like an evil planet with this evil little leader who kidnaps women and rapes and kills them.
00:34:48.000I mean, it's like something out of a horror movie or science fiction.
00:35:18.000And he's got at least This was out years ago.
00:35:22.000The mainstream media is always going, he may have one or five weapons.
00:35:25.000It was declassified many years ago that he had upwards of ten.
00:35:31.000And now in the last few years, he's tested the Taepon Dong-2.
00:35:35.000South Korean Parliament freaked out four years ago, and it was all over their news, never on our news, that North Korea admittedly fired a dummy intercontinental ballistic missile.
00:35:51.000Because when they're beating the war drums, getting ready back in 2001, 2002 to go into Iraq, you can't go, we're going to invade them, but this country that shot a missile at us, that, you know, a dummy missile, you know, everything's fine.
00:36:06.000What was that movie with Harrison Ford, You Something, The Widowmaker, based on a true story where the Russians go and they break up to the ice and they fire a test missile.
00:36:16.000Uh, at the North Pole just to test and see if they can hit the U.S.
00:36:23.000Well, that's what the North Koreans did, but they actually hit Alaska, okay?
00:36:28.000And again, we have people firing missiles at us, but it's just like the Mexican border with hundreds of incursions and 15 dead cops in Texas this year and 800 plus dead and 54 captured and American citizens kidnapped in one swath and taken for ransom and U.S.
00:36:46.000mission from the embassy shutting down with rocket-propelled grenades blowing up.
00:36:52.000We've been screaming about it for a while, so now it's being discussed a little bit.
00:36:55.000But the point is, is that they tell you what to be upset about.
00:36:59.000They tell you, the social engineers, the architects, what to be worried about, and I, frankly, am sick of it.
00:37:07.000And they keep just saying, nuclear, nuclear, they're going nuclear, we can't let them go nuclear.
00:37:11.000And then you read deeply into the articles, it says, we can't let them have these reactors.
00:37:16.000And then, all the top physicists, all the top scientists, The scientists who've been allowed, they've let thousands in.
00:37:21.000Anybody who wants to come and look can look.
00:37:23.000It is classical, peaceful reactors, like a university would have, or like a town would have.
00:37:29.000I mean, it cannot be used to make nuclear weapons, or atomic weapons.
00:37:36.000Now, that doesn't mean that the Globalist, or some other group they hire, isn't going to carry out a suitcase nuke, or a small device of some type, a frog, A tactical nuke in Europe, in Africa, in the U.S., in Canada.
00:38:51.000So let me just, because I want to get to your calls, let me just read this article that is just excellent by Mike Whitney that spells it out.
00:39:01.000Everything he says here, I verified up one side and down the other.
00:39:09.000There's been a lot of rubbish written about Iran's removing the seals from its uranium enrichment equipment.
00:39:16.000The fear-mongering Western media, which is owned by the military industrial complex, I should add, have exploited the expression for all it's worth.
00:39:24.000Again, the defense contractors control all three of the big networks.
00:39:28.000Even those who are normally skeptical of the Bush administration propaganda machine are taken aback by this ominous sounding phrase.
00:39:37.000Well, the media has to act like we're in time for another war, like they're kind of against Bush, to make it look like, you know, there's really a debate going on.
00:39:44.000But then when it's time to go in, suddenly every Democrat, every Republican, unless it's Ron Paul, goes, absolutely, let's do it!
00:39:52.000How else does one make nuclear fuel for electric power plants if the fuel-producing mechanism is under lock and key?
00:40:01.000The fear engineering description provided in the news would have the reader believe that diabolical Iranians are ripping off the seals with crowbars so they can quickly assemble their secret nuclear stockpile to bomb Tel Aviv.
00:40:18.000By the way, Japan has already developed hundreds of nuclear weapons and missiles.
00:40:22.000That's now been admitted, quietly, but it's been in a few papers if you look.
00:41:17.000Additionally, as Nuclear Weapons Physicist Gordon Prather states, after almost three years of go-anywhere, see-anything, interview-anyone inspections... In fact, the IAEA admitted no one has ever given this much access.
00:41:34.000Additionally, as nuclear weapons physicist Gordon Prather says, states, after almost three years of go anywhere, see anything, interview anybody, inspections, the IAEA inspectors have yet to find any indication that Iran has or ever had a nuclear weapons the IAEA inspectors have yet to find any indication that Iran Get it?
00:41:56.000The public has been duped again by the intentionally misleading rhetoric that has been spewing out of MSM and the Bush administration to build the case for the war with Iran today.
00:42:11.000The public does not have a choice, however.
00:42:13.000Either they can accept the credible statement from the Nobel Prize winning Mohammed L. Barabi, chief of the IAEA, or the spurious allegations of the liar-in-chief.
00:42:45.000But this seems to be the conclusion of most people who haven't followed the issue closely.
00:42:50.000The seals were put in place because the Iranian negotiators foolishly fell into a trap that was set by the EU3, England, France, and Germany.
00:42:58.000Yeah, they said, just put seals on it while we debate this, and then you can take them right off.
00:43:03.000And they said, okay, and that's why Iran gets madder and madder.
00:43:06.000They go, we've let you look at everything, we've done what you said, and now you're saying that you never agreed to let us take them off.
00:43:17.000Either you accept the UN totally running your country, and totally controlling the technology you can develop, when it's publicly for peaceful use, Or, the bad cop comes and bombs living daylights out of you and invades you and salts your entire country with depleted uranium.
00:43:33.000And the countries attacking you are so dumbed down and evil, the governments are evil, their minions are so dumbed down that their own troops breathe the deadly poison and love it and thump their chest with glee.
00:43:43.000I mean, that's how crazy we are, folks.
00:44:16.000I just won't... I just won't kill them!
00:44:19.000And we've all heard them, you know who I'm talking about.
00:44:23.000They think it's manly to sit in their easy chair with giant pot bellies and talk about murdering people.
00:44:28.000The public does not have a choice, however.
00:44:30.000Either they can accept the credible statements from the Nobel Prize-winning head of the IAEA, or the spurious allegations of the liar-in-chief.
00:44:38.000The seals were put in place because the Iranian negotiators foolishly fell into the trap that was set by the EU3.
00:44:44.000And remember, Saddam didn't kick the inspectors out when Clinton had them in there.
00:44:50.000He took them out and the news said Saddam kicked them out.
00:44:54.000It didn't matter if it was a total lie.
00:44:57.000When you have a population who doesn't know anything about the world, anything about legislation, anything about branches of government, they just know they're bad and I heard it on the news.
00:45:09.000Iran agreed to confidence building, that's a quote, measures that would placate the United States, which included additional protocols that were not demanded under the terms of the treaty or required by the IEA.
00:45:21.000As it turns out, the EU used the extra concessions to make it look like Iran was violating the NPT after negotiations had ended.
00:45:28.000The EU strategy was a clever ploy that worked like a charm, but that doesn't change the facts.
00:46:44.000But that is not a violation of the treaty.
00:46:46.000That's simply being deceived by some very brainy neocons.
00:46:50.000You know, I don't want to toot our own horn, but after the London bombings, we wrote an article warning Iran to go public that the West is carrying out terror attacks.
00:46:57.000Oh, I just learned a big UT professor is now coming out and saying that.
00:47:41.000And it goes on, Iran has completely cooperated with the IAEA to ensure that it stays within the rules and does not develop highly enriched weapons grade material.
00:47:49.000Presently, Iran poses no threat to either its neighbors or the United States.
00:47:53.000The Bush administration does not accept that internationally recognized treaty rights.
00:47:58.000Of Iran, because it believes that all law flows from Washington, not just from Washington, from Bush's bosses, and the fact that is tragically evident in the torturing of prisoners, spying on American citizens, and its vast destruction of Iraq.
00:48:12.000As long as the Bush media, which serves as an annex to the political establishment, can continue to hoodwink the American people in its alarmist misinformation, there's little chance that a war with Iran will be avoided.
00:48:27.000And, uh, for those that really want to know the truth, understand the truth about Iran's nuclear program, and the many fictions created in the press, there's no better place to start than the articles of nuclear physicist Dr. Gordon Prather.
00:48:44.000But, uh, they admittedly lied to us the entire time about Iraq.
00:48:53.000And now, exactly what we told you one year before the invasion, not because we have crystal balls, not because we're psychic, the Israeli documents, the PNAC documents, the Pentagon documents, Dick Cheney's own writing said, we're going to break the country up, we're going to screw it up, we're going to cause civil war.
00:49:12.000Brzezinski, Trilateral Commission head, wrote in 97, we're going to invade Afghanistan, we're going to invade Iraq, we're going to balkanize the whole place, we're going to break it up in three parts, What we want as an empire is to control our slaves at home.
00:49:37.000They call us slaves and say we must unify our slaves.
00:49:41.000To fight the barbarians, just as Caesar did, and to unify them, we need terror attacks in America on the order of Pearl Harbor or greater.
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00:53:56.000We're going to go to your calls, but in closing on the Iran situation, what lesson does it teach the Iranians that if you're a scumbag bucket of pus, what lesson does it teach the Iranians that if you're a scumbag bucket of pus, I mean literally bucket of maggots is too nice to say, Kim Jong-il threatening to nuke us and firing missiles, test missiles that hit our country, and nothing's done, but then you don't have nukes, and
00:54:28.000and And I have no doubt they're tinker-toying around trying to get a bomb, I mean let's be honest, but they're not going to do it with this system they've got.
00:54:37.000It's just, you know, they're being told they can't, so they just want the bare minimum to be able to have their own power system.
00:54:43.000And then people go, well, you've got plenty of oil.
00:54:44.000Well, aren't they a sovereign country?
00:54:46.000The point is, is they're a decade away from this, and the government's acting like we've got to go invade them right now or they're going to get us.
00:54:53.000Meanwhile, if you're Israel, you can threaten to nuke Europe.
00:54:56.000Did you know one of the Knesset members did that?
00:55:36.000Last May, I seen him spraying chemtrails over the sky in Houston, and I called you up and I told you that I went to my next door neighbor and I asked her, her Her friend was on the Sheriff's Department.
00:55:47.000I said, well, ask Robert if he can find out what's going on.
00:55:50.000She said, well, he has a friend in the Air Force.
00:55:52.000He'll go to, he'll ask, he'll ask him, you know.
00:55:55.000Well, he did, and he made some inquiries, and the word I got back was that they were testing a new weapon.
00:56:00.000Well, since that time, I've moved further out, outside of Houston, out in the country, and when Hurricane Rita was coming in here, I happened to stop by just to check out, see how she was doing.
00:56:09.000And I made the comment, I said, I thought the government was behind these hurricanes with all this spraying up in the air.
00:56:14.000And she said, well, you never heard the rest of the story of what happened.
00:56:18.000She said, well, some higher-ups in the Air Force found out that Robert's friend was making these inquiries about spraying, and they called him in there.
00:56:28.000And at first they asked him, well, how do you know this?
00:56:30.000And she said, well, or he said, I got a friend who has a friend that's seen him spraying in the sky.
00:56:36.000And they told him, they said, this is highest priority, top secret.
00:56:39.000You are not to make any more inquiries about this.
00:56:42.000If you make any more inquiries or tell anybody else, you'll be court-martialed.
00:56:46.000And they also told the people, I guess, to give them the information, the same thing, and then they broke them up and transferred them to different bases around the country.
00:56:51.000Yeah, well, I don't like to... I don't like to speculate, and I don't like to... I mean, I appreciate your call, and it's interesting, John, and I appreciate it, but I mean, you know, now there'll be a story going around forever about this happening.
00:57:03.000What I like to do is focus on what we know.
00:57:06.000Three thousand plus times, From the 40s until the late 70s, and then nothing's been declassified since then.
00:57:15.000There have been some other limited declassifications from the mid 80s, but...
00:57:19.0003,000 plus releases of radiation particles, radiologicals, chemicals, biologicals.
00:57:25.000Deaths from San Francisco to New York.
00:57:27.000I mean, they would release bio-weapons on the subway in 1968, killed a bunch of people, details.
00:57:32.000The numbers of deaths remain classified, but they had troops, medical doctors in the military, waiting to see what it would do and photographing it and writing notes.
00:57:40.000It was real fun, like you'd test a weapon on some goats or some pigs, which they also do, but, oh, they got tested on people.
00:57:48.000And then in the 80s with Project Shad, they did it on boats and ships and killed a lot of our troops.
00:58:16.000And they nerve-gassed him and they dissected his body and mailed it home to his parents and never told them that they dissected him and just said, he died of the flu.
00:58:24.000Oh, but the government wouldn't carry out terror attacks.
00:58:27.000And yes, they're manipulating the weather.
00:58:29.000When you see the chemtrails, you know those trails that stay there for five hours instead of two minutes?
00:58:34.000That's for weather modification generally.
00:59:26.000Ben Levinson coming up with some updates for us, new information.
00:59:30.000A little more he's willing to talk about because he's so angry about the government not controlling and stopping hurricanes when in the 60s they'd proven they could.
00:59:39.000But our government, admittedly, the criminals that run it, have killed our own troops, our own citizens, in 3,000 plus chemical and biological tests that they declassified here in the U.S., including radiating small children, claiming it was an x-ray, and actually killing G.I.s, small children.
00:59:54.000I mean, the government's got people that'll put a two-year-old baby in a radiator and radiate them.
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01:01:56.000Every major town and city sprayed with tons of it.
01:02:02.000Well it just all ties in like with that, talking about the toll roads you were earlier in the week, how they would cut off small towns.
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01:07:44.000Still, folks, that shouldn't be one of the top stories.
01:07:46.000Another top story above, you know, China dumping the dollar and impending war with Iran was some guy had his Corvette stole 27 years ago and now they found it in a container and Homeland Security gave it to him and is going after the people that stole it as terrorists.
01:08:02.000I mean, that's just, that is not news.
01:08:06.000And I'm sorry, you're not going to hear about Michael Jackson here, some of you out there that like that.
01:08:11.000You've got a hundred other stations around you, I'm sure, that do that.
01:08:13.000You're not going to hear about how dumb Hillary is.
01:08:33.000The answer is because they want to hand out hundreds of billions of dollars that's through the central government to their cronies.
01:08:39.000They don't want a free market, and that's the conclusion Ben Livingston's come to.
01:08:43.000I've got articles up on Infowars.com right now about today's guest, who first went public in a couple of newspapers in the Midland area, and then on the radio here.
01:08:55.000But Ben Livingston, cloud physicist, has an eye on hurricane control.
01:08:59.000That was one of the first articles back in September of last year.
01:09:03.000And then, of course, we have this article, Former Naval Physicist, Government Can Control Hurricanes, Former Vet Made It Rain During Vietnam.
01:09:10.000That's an article Steve Watson and Paul Watson put together, and it went into the things he did.
01:09:15.000Ben, it's good to have you back with us, and for those that don't know who you are, spend a few minutes.
01:09:19.000I know you don't like to brag on yourself, frankly.
01:09:22.000You talk yourself down, but you are the father of using weather weapons.
01:09:29.000You just first used it in war and again, Stanford studies, Pentagon studies, you did flood out the Viet Cong with record rains in the dry season using nothing.
01:09:40.000You did fly into typhoons and 200-something mile an hour winds long before these people were bragging about flying into hurricanes and high tech planes.
01:09:49.000You did have SAM missiles shot at you.
01:09:51.000You were the head of the acting commander of the Naval Research Laboratory.
01:10:23.000I have over three years experience in flying typhoon reconnaissance and research in the Pacific.
01:10:32.000Two and a half years of flying typhoon research and weather modification in the Atlantic Ocean, operating out of the Hurricane Hunter Squadron from Jacksonville.
01:10:43.000I was a The National Military Representative on the Stormfury Advisory Board wrote the operations plan for Project Stormfury, and in that project, of course, our objective was to demonstrate that we could, in fact, reduce the maximum winds in hurricanes.
01:11:10.000That was a very successful operation, and as you said in your introduction a while ago, It was certified, those operations were certified by Stanford Research Institute and they had a conclusion, a public conclusion if you will.
01:11:36.000Here's what they said about the government.
01:11:40.000And I would also, before you do that, add that many of the top, recognized, top meteorologists in the world have certified that these systems conclusively work as well, and you have that in your book as well.
01:11:55.000And I might mention two names here of people who are outstanding meteorologists and scientists that directed Project Stormfury in its formative years and its successful years.
01:12:09.000And I think because of their strong feelings about how successful it was, which did not fit in the mainstream of some of the other scientists, they were actually purged from the system.
01:12:23.000But these two scientists, one of them, Dr. Joanne Simpson, had been recognized as the top tropical meteorologist in the world in the 21st century.
01:12:40.000That is quite a title, quite a recognition.
01:12:45.000But those two people, she and her husband, started this program and operated it for years and helped develop the techniques and materials and so forth that are needed to reduce the damage from hurricanes.
01:13:00.000But some of the scientists involved in the program at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration weren't ready to accept cloud seeding of hurricanes or seeding of hurricanes as a practical operation.
01:13:20.000Why don't you go ahead and go back, though.
01:13:21.000I interrupted you and read that particular part where the Stanford Research Institute reported on what you did off the East Coast.
01:13:29.000Well, here's what the Stanford Research Institute had to say.
01:13:34.000They may have to accept responsibility for not seeding and thereby exposing the public to higher probabilities of severe storm damage and possible higher death tolls.
01:13:45.000We claim they should consider seeding now if a big hurricane comes straight from Miami.
01:13:54.000And again, I've read your book, it just goes on and on, and I've been there with you in the hotel room with stacks of documents out of your briefcase, and I've gone and personally researched them myself.
01:14:05.000But, you know, we talked last time, and you called up and said you wanted to come back on because you're getting even more angry about what's happening.
01:14:12.000Let's specifically talk about, just briefly, Ben, I mean, you said it yourself without me even prompting it, and that's what was in my heart, and in my mind, They want to hand out $200 billion from Katrina.
01:14:23.000They want it to be really bad because that brings political control over who gets that money.
01:14:27.000I mean, $200 billion, folks, that's more than all the money spent and taxed in Texas.
01:14:37.000I mean, we're talking about... I mean, the entire Pentagon budget is $600 billion.
01:14:41.000We're talking about a lot of money handed out to a lot of cronies and a lot of friends to Halliburton and others.
01:14:47.000And, you know, there they are in the Stanford Research Institute, you know, saying that this is the real deal.
01:14:53.000And look, for those that don't know, you've gone over this before.
01:14:57.000First talk about that, and then I want to get into the fact, Ben, Well, we'll cover the second point in a second.
01:15:04.000Go ahead and cover that first one about why in your gut you think they don't want to allow this to be used now to substantively weaken these hurricanes.
01:15:13.000Well, some months ago it was in my mind that the Senators and even their President may not know the real facts or truth of what went on in Project Stormfury and results begat.
01:15:25.000So to counter that, I sent a letter to each of the hundred Senators and A separate letter to the President of the United States in which I gave him the facts of Project Stormfury and some other thoughts on how the technology need to be used or could be used and who could use it and apply it.
01:15:44.000I got, from those hundred Senators, I got a reply from six of them.
01:15:49.000Two of the six just said they wouldn't really want to talk to me because I'm not one of their constituents.
01:15:56.000One of them, Senator Krent Lott, advised the Chairman of a subcommittee that he thought this should be looked into, and that was the only substantive letter I received from the 100 Senators on this situation.
01:16:12.000So I then came to the conclusion, the absolute conclusion, that the Senators and even the President just may not give a darn.
01:16:25.000Just let it go ahead and blow everybody away.
01:16:27.000The insurance industries, the energy industries, and the major building companies and so forth stand to make, and do make, a lot of money from these calls.
01:16:40.000Yeah, contrary to popular belief, insurance companies just jack up prices even more than they need to, and they get government bailouts, and they end up actually making money out of these type of events.
01:16:49.000And then certainly the construction industries and the cronies and the rest of them And then now that's becoming even clearer, but I want to be specific.
01:16:55.000A lot of idiots say drop a nuke on a hurricane.
01:17:05.000Talk about those engines, those cells that are in the hurricane, and all you've got to do is go in and target with planes those energy cells in the main right front quadrant.
01:17:20.000Well, of course, a hurricane is composed of several major engines, you just referred to them as engines, which are extremely big cloud formations that are more or less independent until they come together or are blown together and they become an engine.
01:17:38.000Any engine, if you destroy a cylinder in it, becomes less efficient.
01:17:45.000That's the theory and the actual application of the cloud-seated material to these individual sails in a very restricted right-front quadrant of a hurricane reduces the wind velocity of that storm.
01:18:04.000Or in other words, it effectively reduces the effectiveness of the cylinders in that storm.
01:18:13.000Now you said you conclusively showed 30 to 40 percent reductions.
01:18:19.000I mean, you take a storm down from 130 miles an hour to even 100 miles an hour.
01:18:24.000It's that 100 to 130 where most of the death and destruction is caused.
01:18:28.000Yes, well, I believe Dr. Mike Garstang said it best in one of those Senate hearings.
01:18:36.000And he said he told the Senators that some of the research that emerged from Project Storm Fury indicated that cloud sheeting could reduce a hurricane's strength by as much as 15%, which mathematically means reducing the storm's destructive power exponentially.
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01:23:03.000So now Ben Livingston, who'd been out of politics and government for a long time, advised the President, been on the National Board, been over entire military research facilities, some of the largest in the country.
01:23:15.000He's now been researching and investigating and reading the legislation that's being introduced by Kay Baby from out here in Texas, one of our Senators, along with Cornyn.
01:23:23.000And then now he's read some of the hearings that I didn't even know about.
01:24:49.000But you know, in these hearings, Senator DeMint said, This is a fascinating subject to me, and the idea that we can actually impact weather is exciting, and I guess, frightening in some ways.
01:25:07.000And that's what Senator DeMint said, and he was the chair of this committee.
01:25:10.000You know, I think it's safe to say, Ben, you going public earlier last year, and then later in the year, we talking about it, and you going on coast-to-coast AM, I think that spurred them to have these hearings.
01:25:22.000Well, I hope it did because something desperately needs to be done.
01:25:27.000But he also went on to say that during these November hearings on a bill that could start up federal weather modification or weather modification research project.
01:25:41.000That project was started and funded first in 1954.
01:25:49.000and continued unabated through last year.
01:25:53.000When did you first get involved in that project?
01:25:55.000I first got involved in the project officially in 1960, 1963, when I was advised by the Navy personnel people that I would be going to a hurricane hunter squadron, if you will, the next year, which was 1964.
01:26:13.000Then you began testing the technologies that you then used against the Vietnamese, the communists.
01:26:19.000Just briefly talk about that, because they have history channel specials and weather channel specials about eight feet of water and flooding them in the dry season and the cloud seeding, but you were the guy up there doing it and training the other crews how to do it.
01:26:34.000Yes sir, well during the first season, the first fall season, we were there Essentially at the end of the monsoon with the intent and purpose of extending the rainfall for another month or two at the end of the monsoon season.
01:26:50.000So I was the only person doing that flying during that year.
01:26:53.000It was a highly classified project, if you will.
01:26:57.000But it was also during the first 13, 14 days of that project that the Joint Chiefs of Staff took up the subject of using weather control as a weapon system.
01:27:08.000And in November of the same year, I was asked to report back to the President of the United States on the outcome of the cloud cheating events in Vietnam.
01:27:22.000I went there in person, and the reason this project was effective was that we Use on-board aircraft instrumentation to sample each cloud before I did anything with it.
01:27:36.000Before and after, so you had the scientific data right there.
01:27:53.000I had a general, a good knowledge, if you will, of the physics of most clouds, of kind of how they work.
01:27:59.000And I'd spent many years, if you will, inside clouds taking data, studying them and so forth.
01:28:06.000But in Vietnam, where I had to apply this knowledge, I didn't have anything besides some simple Onboard aircraft instruments in which I could determine if a cloud needed to be seeded to make it rain or if it should be left alone.
01:28:23.000You also took photos out of the gun camera of the little bitty cloud that you then built into a giant thunderhead that then turned into a huge storm that totally knocked out the enemy Ho Chi Minh Trail.
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01:34:49.000Let me just add a little program note here, no matter how much I say this, it doesn't seem to matter.
01:34:57.000I do not have an office at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas 78704.
01:35:04.000There is a locked mail drop-off there that the post office drops into.
01:35:08.000I've been using it now for about 10 years.
01:35:12.000I had an office down the street that was private because it was so small.
01:35:16.000Because frankly, I can't have 50 people a day coming into my office or I won't get any work done.
01:37:45.000What I'm getting at here is I know most of you don't care and I love you to death, but some people get mad that I don't respond to every phone call.
01:38:44.000Ben, it's got to be refreshing, though, to at least see the things you've said now being talked about in Senate hearings and being discussed on Fox television.
01:39:18.000Ben, it's got to feel good to now at least see the Senate talking about it, Fox News talking about it, a new bill to create a national weather control program.
01:39:28.000Well, I do, and I think it's interesting to note what Wesley Denton, who is Senator DeMint's aide, said, quote, This plan deserves further consideration, but at a time of serious deficits, we must delay committing additional funds to this project until we have more time to consider its merits.
01:39:51.000They must realize That inaction or failure to accept an offer from a civilian people with appropriate equipment, materials and so forth would represent an investment of about $100,000 to one in one quarter of a year had they accepted our plan last year.
01:40:16.000We wouldn't have had The dam around New Orleans failing, we wouldn't have that twenty to a hundred billion dollar debt that's staring us in the face.
01:40:26.000Oh, they're saying total cost is going to be $200, Bill.
01:40:28.000Well, okay, but you see, but I would like to ask the question, if they aren't going to try to do something physically about the problem, why are they building it back?
01:40:39.000Well, let me just stop you right there.
01:40:41.000You know, you talk about how they said they need to study it and look at it for another decade or so.
01:40:45.000As you said, it was already demonstrated, certified, documented to work in the late 1960s.
01:41:42.000But one of the things that I'm really concerned about is, why have we not tried to prevent or reduce the effects of a hurricane in the first few days?
01:41:57.000Let me ask you this question, is it better to knock one out when it's first forming, or before it forms, when you see a tropical storm getting rotation, or is it better to wait until it comes in close to the coast and then hit it hard?
01:42:09.000Well see, I think the answer to that question would be, and we have no experience with this, to reduce the damage of the velocity of the hurricane before it gets close to U.S.
01:42:45.000I've seen all the documents, but they're not in front of me.
01:42:48.000Well, if you're talking about the storm fury hurricanes, all those experiments took place far enough off the coast To ensure that whatever results occurred from the experiments didn't come ashore and cause problems.
01:43:04.000Because you didn't know... I mean, you thought you knew what would happen from past experience with clouds, but you weren't sure, so to be safe, you did it... I mean, it's kind of like testing A-bombs out in Nevada.
01:43:13.000You do it out where there's nobody around.
01:43:30.000And according to the reports I've read, the declassified ones and the public reports, I mean, it worked like a charm.
01:43:35.000You knocked those suckers down massively.
01:43:38.000Well, we knocked them down by about an average of about 25% in wind velocity, which is between a reduction of 40% and 60% of damage reduction.
01:43:47.000So, if you take any big storm and reduce its damage potential by 40% or 50%, It's not really all that terrible anymore.
01:44:00.000Don't the new planes carry, did you say 500 or 800 times what the old planes did?
01:44:04.000Well, the airplanes that we use now, we use the Lear 25 and aircraft of that type, but they will carry 408 cloud-sheeting flares compared to the 52 that we used to carry during the hurricane experiments in the mid-60s.
01:44:25.000So that's about 8 times, about 8 times, 800% increase in the cloud seeding capacity.
01:44:34.000Now to be specific, you actually are a meteorologist, one of a whole team, with one of the biggest weather modification companies in the U.S.
01:44:41.000And you advise them, but you guys have giant clients, some of the biggest resorts in Canada, and some of the biggest resorts, I believe I was reading in the newspaper, out there in Colorado.
01:45:13.000I mean, anybody who wants to know knows it's there.
01:45:16.000The government acts like they just discovered it.
01:45:18.000Well, it is a shame because the company that I've affiliated with has been doing this kind of weather control for the Canadian government for 10 years.
01:45:47.000If we don't do something that takes up or makes work for our company in this project, we will probably be in South Korea this summer.
01:45:57.000But it takes some time and effort to prepare for a season of hurricanes.
01:46:02.000But the point is, is the secret's out.
01:46:04.000Now they're talking about it in the Senate a lot more.
01:46:06.000And the solution is get the word out and tell everybody.
01:46:08.000And we've got links to some of the websites you're affiliated with and the groups and the news articles and bills that you've been talking about.
01:46:14.000talking about Ben, and anytime you want to talk about anything, be sure and call my office, my friend, and we'll have you on the broadcast.
01:46:21.000You had a chance to see the little 35-minute TV production I did with our interviews here in Austin.
01:46:27.000Let me ask you on air, did you like that production?
01:46:30.000I thought that production was excellent.
01:46:33.000It gave us a chance to take our time and explore the ramifications of some of the statements Well, I'm going to beef it up and have a part two that will be in a documentary that should be out in about three or four months.
01:46:46.000And so I'll be sure and get you a copy of that, Ben.
01:46:48.000Anything else you want to say in closing?
01:46:49.000Yeah, I would like to say in closing, and this will take a couple of minutes, of what we ought to be doing, what we ought to do.
01:46:55.000I think the President should come out immediately and make a statement to the nation of his strong indications that hurricane damage reduction procedures work, or practices work.
01:47:05.000Number two, he ought to announce his intentions to let the science and technology developed by Corporate America demonstrate their performance in 2006.
01:47:13.000And number three, he ought to contract a company that's identified in a letter to him and to all the Senators, a contract qualified company and their civilian scientists to do this work.
01:47:26.000And number four, I think they ought to take responsibility out of the for hurricane control out of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
01:47:40.000It would fulfill the President and the Senator's Christian obligation to help others when it's possible.
01:47:46.000But Ben, you said it yourself, then they couldn't hand out $200 billion in little goody goods to all their friends.
01:47:52.000Yeah, I think they might prefer that, prefer to hand out $200 billion to select people than to A handout $25 or $30 million to some company that could reduce that damage by 30-40%.
01:48:05.000Now you've done unofficial studies, and I've seen some other ones, for a poultry sum, I mean, what, $100 million a year?
01:48:12.000You could have basic total weather control over the U.S.?
01:48:17.000Over $100 million a year, you'd have some left over.
01:48:21.000Ben Livingston, I want to thank you so much for coming on with us.
01:48:27.000Folks, this is demonstrated, documented, old technology.
01:48:31.000And of course, look, Ben, they won't let him into the lube for a long time.
01:48:35.000They've got advanced weather control technologies.
01:48:38.000But instead of arguing that, instead of arguing that clearly they manipulated those hurricanes, and other meteorologists said it, you could see it, you could see it going on.
01:48:46.000They did things hurricanes have never done.
01:48:48.000Instead of even arguing that, I'll just go get you somebody who's the father of an old technology that works 110% of the time.
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01:52:48.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:53:02.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:53:10.000All right, I know we got loaded phones.
01:53:11.000We'll keep docker breeding off about until eight minutes after in the next hours.
01:53:15.000I can take some calls now and take some of that next little five minute
01:53:18.000segment and uh... talking about for psychological testing for some drugging this is the sovietization of america that's coming up in the next hour with a new freedom initiative moving forward right now let's go back to randy in indiana you want to talk about the brainwashing locally in his neighborhood and uh... he feels like the globalist just you know flyover as we're in flyover country and how they want the toll roads to lock everything down and track and trace this and how the car law group's the biggest employer in his area and what type
01:53:48.000Alex, you hit it all right on the head, and just listening to you and the doctor, it reminds me of a lot too.
01:53:53.000I spent many years in broadcasting, five years as a television weatherman in Arkansas.
01:54:02.000I was laughing about it because the other day when you had Tex Mars on, the guy who filmed the Freemason talk at the lodge was on the phone too, and it's just amazing how everybody's Waking up and coming together a little bit.
01:54:15.000Yeah, we're talking about freemasonry and how low-level ones aren't aware of what's happening.
01:54:48.000So what people don't know is they're not going to fix the hurricanes because they're not going to admit they've got it because they are weather modding right now.
01:54:55.000It's pretty amazing what's going on, but just feeling like the flowers.
01:54:58.000I'm in Southern Illinois, but I'm right next to Indiana.
01:55:02.000But, uh, but, uh, the Cindy Sheehan thing going on with her, I know she's being used now by everybody, but, but what's, what's difficult in the area I live in A boy from my town was killed in the same battle.
01:55:17.000And his mother, of course, is pro-war and we're doing the right thing and all that.
01:55:22.000So, see, I'm kind of stuck in this... Well, see, she can't admit to herself that it was a needless sacrifice for a bunch of crooks.
01:55:29.000And so a lot of mothers are going to go the other way and say, how dare you say my son died in vain?
01:55:33.000And I'm not taking away from it that these young men think they're fighting for good and that they are good people.
01:55:39.000It's just that the war is based on lies, and is a fraud, and is unjust, and that isn't going to change.
01:55:46.000And it, quote, doesn't let our troops down to get them out of there.
01:55:50.000It's, you know, it's like if they've thrown five people off a cliff, well, we've got to throw another hundred off because we can't let those first five down.
01:55:57.000I did some simple mathematics just the other day when I saw a report a couple months ago in the newspaper.
01:56:04.000I was telling the people at work about it and they just had a hard time believing it.
01:56:08.000I've been called a few names here and there.
01:56:12.000Just reading about the soldiers that come back that are going to have something wrong with their mind, the Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, then I factored in the number killed, the number wounded, and it was like with the number over there, you've got like a one in two shot of coming back with something wrong.
01:56:30.000And by the way, the Pentagon now, for the last decade or more, has been sending anybody who has post-traumatic stress disorder into a database, and now they're denying veterans the right to own guns.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are now in...
01:58:12.000to our number three on this live Thursday edition the 19th day of January 2006 and for the next hour we're going to be joined by somebody who didn't sit there and suck their thumb and whine and roll around in a fetal position like you know somebody who actually got involved engage the new world order at point-blank range
01:58:35.000And has now had TV stations covering the film, tens of thousands watching it online, thousands buying it.
01:58:42.000Having a big effect, they did loose change one, now they've done loose change two.
01:59:39.000You know, you're just another success story.
01:59:42.000I had David Stahl on, who's a city manager, a retired police officer, but a city councilman, and he discovered the toll road tracking grid.
01:59:50.000He went public, and now it looks like we may be able to beat it, at least the majority of counties are joining us to say no to it.
01:59:56.000And you and a couple college students got together, did the research.
02:00:00.000You went off other, you know, documented research, did your own, and have done something very effective.
02:00:08.000Tell us about yourself before we get into the film and 9-11 and what you think is most important about it and take some calls on a host of issues, but tell us about your awakening.
02:00:19.000Well, it was about three years ago in May 2002.
02:00:22.000I was building a restaurant that was basically funded by James Gandolfini, who plays Tony Soprano on the HBO series Sopranos.
02:00:29.000And in May 2002, he came up for the opening party.
02:00:32.000I had a chance to speak with him after the party.
02:00:35.000I was thinking about getting into the whole film industry, acting, directing, figuring out what I wanted to do, and I approached him at like three in the morning, I was like, Jim, I just had a quick question.
02:01:06.000What, you've done a great job, though, in the first thing you did, but, I mean, instead of just talking, and all these trendies prance around, have lots of film meetings, and that's not how you do it!
02:01:41.000A man who has beliefs, a man who gets involved, a man who takes action.
02:01:46.000You're doing a great job there, Dylan.
02:01:48.000Thank you, Alex, I really appreciate it.
02:01:50.000So he told you, this is riveting, he told you just have something you believe in and get involved.
02:01:56.000Yeah, just have something to say and stand behind it.
02:01:58.000So, I took a couple different ideas that I had been toying with in the past and characters and kind of threw them all together and started writing a feature film script, which eventually turned into Loose Change the movie, which was a semi-fictional story about me and my friends finding out that September 11th was basically an inside job.
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02:06:48.000And that's a louder than words production loose change second edition written and directed by Dylan Avery produced by Corey Rowe and of course There's a lot of other great folks involved in this and we carry it again at info wars.com right now you get yourself a hard copy of it Dylan you were talking about how back in 2002
02:07:10.000You are working at a local restaurant, building the local restaurant for the star of The Sopranos there in your town, and then you go talk to the head guy and you say, like, three in the morning, hey, what do I do to get involved and break into acting?
02:07:24.000I'm just recapping for those who didn't hear it in the last segment.
02:07:29.000He says, have something you believe in, stand behind it.
02:07:32.000And then you were already, I guess, kind of waking up to 9-11, and first it was going to be fiction, or quasi, kind of docudrama, then you decided to make a doc, because obviously that's easier, you know, not setting your sights too high for your first project, and you did a great job on Loose Change 1, now Loose Change 2, but I want to get also into 9-11.
02:07:50.000I mean, when did you start to wake up to 9-11?
02:07:55.000Well, I guess I subconsciously knew that something was wrong with the official story because in the first maybe 10, 20 pages I started touching upon it.
02:08:03.000And when I started really researching 9-11, I came across, I believe it was two key websites.
02:08:09.000It was Serendipity's World Trade Center and the so-called War on Terror, I believe, and Blake Puppy Archive, and a lot of people were posting videos.
02:08:19.000of the collapses and just pointing things out.
02:08:21.000And it was at that point that I really started to realize that maybe what I was writing wasn't so much fiction as it was reality.
02:08:30.000And you basically hit the nail on the head, Alex.
02:08:33.000I had too much information to put into an actual feature-length film, so I split it off and basically made loose change the documentary.
02:08:42.000And people ask me all the time, where'd you get the title Loose Change?
02:08:47.000It's like, well, the reason the documentary is called that is because of the movie that it all started from.
02:08:52.000And if all goes according to plan, we'll be shooting Loose Change the movie this year.
02:08:57.000Well, I think, you know, the term loose change, it just makes you think of unanswered questions or loose things, you know, parts of things that are just wrong or parts of things that are jingling around in your pocket.
02:09:40.000Now this second edition, why don't you tell folks what it goes through and describe it for them.
02:09:46.000Well, basically, the main chapters of the film are, as you described, the opening timeline of the movie, which replaced the whole pod-slash-missile thing from Loose Change 1.
02:09:58.000Loose Change 2 opens up with an opening timeline.
02:10:03.000The majority of the research I used was from Killtown's website.
02:10:06.000I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with Killtown.
02:10:08.000He's an amazing, amazing 9-11 researcher.
02:10:11.000If you haven't seen his site, you should definitely check it out.
02:10:16.000I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought there.
02:10:21.000I understand that you're also on cell phone.
02:10:22.000This is kind of a short notice interview, so you're kind of out on the job while doing this interview.
02:10:29.000We're going to take some calls coming up in a few minutes, but tell me about the team that made these two documentaries, because they're both excellent, but Loose Change 2, obviously, I think is a lot better.
02:10:41.000I mean, how long it took you to do it, how you did your research, what you decided to cover?
02:10:46.000I tried to stick to the main key points that I could prove, basically.
02:11:17.000But again, there's those people who've never gotten off the bench, don't even understand what video editing software is, and they just go, why didn't you?
02:11:27.000Why didn't you just make it like this?
02:11:30.000So I would just ignore that type of stuff.
02:11:42.000I mean, like I said, I tried to stick to the things that were the most solid pieces of evidence.
02:11:47.000And what I did for the second edition, as I tried to take the first one, I mean, I basically, right after releasing the first one, I knew that it was incomplete, and I knew that there were automatically things that people were not going to like, and things that I had to fix.
02:12:00.000And slowly, offers began pouring in for people that wanted to help, people that wanted to, like I said, the first contribution I got, which was key, which was Ryan Donan, who did the Animation of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, which was phenomenal.
02:14:51.000People were like, well, you know, when you get to conspiracy theories like this, it's like there's, especially with something like 9-11, is there's so many people that were involved.
02:14:59.000How could, how have they not come out?
02:15:01.000I mean, there's a number of reasons why they wouldn't have.
02:15:03.000I mean, if you work for a government that killed 3,000 people, I mean, you probably fear for your own life as well.
02:15:08.000Well, look, a lot of them have gone public.
02:15:10.000I mean, again, the Defense Language School Dean said, I trained some of the hijackers.
02:16:47.000The old Bible verse, out of the mouths of babes.
02:16:49.000But more than that, you just went out and looked at all the research by all these incredible physicists and underwriters and all the experts, and you guys did a great job of compiling it.
02:16:59.000Yeah, and that's the other thing, is that people accuse us of, like, stealing other people's research.
02:17:09.000That's what's nuts about some of these, quote, researchers, is that, is that, oh, you link to me, or you, you know, you use my stuff, how dare you?
02:17:17.000We're trying to stop a bunch of killers from doing more, folks!
02:17:22.000But you know what, you've just got to ignore those egomaniacs.
02:17:24.000There's not many of them out there, but a lot of them are trying to just control the movement and everything and try to limit its scope.
02:17:29.000I think it's great to have a wide debate, look at all the evidence, flesh it out.
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02:22:47.000This is a little off the mark, what you're talking about today, but yesterday I went in to get a regular physical for my insurance.
02:22:54.000And I'm sitting in the lobby and surrounded by books and things up on the wall talking about flu vaccine, get this vaccine, you know, vaccine yourself.
02:23:05.000And I go back in the back and they take my blood.
02:23:09.000And I'm still sitting there with the deal in my arm where they pulled it out in the nurse's sleeve.
02:23:12.000And she comes back in and she's got this syringe full of something.
02:23:16.000And she goes to start putting it in my arm.
02:23:51.000My regular fiscal for my insurance, which I have good health and I'm blessed with that, and just for my standards... Then we're going to put some kind of trade... Folks, this is what's getting crazy, is that I get reports of this all the time.
02:24:02.000They know the general public's dumbed down, and so they're doing... And again, we've had a government 3,000 plus times declassified use chemical, biologicals, and radiologicals on the American people.
02:24:13.000I mean, again, Israel radiated 110,000 of their own children, killed them for $3 billion from the U.S., you know, up until the 60s.
02:24:20.000Just type in, you know, Israel radiated its own children, it'll pop up.
02:24:26.000The same governments that admittedly have done all this in the past, now want us to totally trust them, and oh, they wouldn't be behind terror.
02:24:33.000Dylan Avery, you want to comment on this?
02:24:37.000Well, actually, I was reading up on Mumia Abu Jamal earlier, actually.
02:24:41.000I don't know if you know about him, but what happened to him happened back in the 1980s.
02:24:46.000Basically, this guy was a journalist, and he was a cab driver at night to pay his bills, and he was letting off a fare at like 2 or 3 in the morning, and he looks out his car window, and he sees his brother in the street.
02:24:59.000His brother got shot, and Mumia ran out there to check on his brother, and then He got jumped or something.
02:25:33.000There is so much bizarre stuff going on and happening, but I mean, all the stories of poor people going to the health department and get sterilized, I mean, that happened to, what, 400-something thousand women from the 1920s until 1980s.
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02:31:53.000Back, you know, to the troops, and they'd give them uranium and plutonium pills, and tell them, now, if you don't feel good taking these vitamins, come right in here.
02:31:59.000And they'd have doctors on standby with film cameras rolling just to see how the baby died.
02:32:34.000I mean, you want to know why I freak out, why I'm always going wild?
02:32:38.000Because, I mean, I'm just a bunch of psychopathic killers running everything right in front of us.
02:32:42.000And I know, I mean, the black men in Tuskegee, they'd go in, they'd have syphilis, they'd let them die of it over 40, 50 years, and now the evidence shows they were giving them syphilis?
02:33:44.000I mean, when you know that, I mean, folks, they'll take our troops and put them out in the field and fly over and nerve gas them and just kill them.
02:33:55.000Over and over again and it can be in the BBC and it's just all government kills you.
02:34:09.000Oh man, Alex, you need to have Corey on your show sometime because he was in Afghanistan and Iraq and he would have tons of things to tell you about the war.
02:34:17.000He's one of the guys that worked on the film.
02:35:20.000I'm the one that does the editing and all the work, but he stands up over my shoulder, gives me advice, tells me what looks good, what doesn't, and does the producer's job.
02:35:29.000Well, that's why the New Order's got a problem, is their troops, their military, their police.
02:35:33.000We are turning them to the light every day.
02:36:52.000And just a testament to Dylan and his crew.
02:36:55.000Again, 19 years old, sees what's happening, goes and does the research, There have been other great films made by, you know, 60-year-old people or films made by 30-year-old folks.
02:38:12.000My dad, because his name is so common, Jones is very common, and his first name is even more common, and so he needs to, he started adding his middle initial.
02:38:21.000You know, in his case, it really is a mistake, because there's so many people, I mean, there's got to be tens of thousands with his name just in the U.S.
02:38:28.000alone, and then in Western Europe and England, there's just as many.
02:38:35.000But, and so they did advise people that if you're having trouble with a really common name, that what you do is you just add your initial, or maybe your initial's matching somebody, you take your initial out, and you get through.
02:38:48.000You know, it's like four-year-olds that can't fly because their name is the same as somebody else, and TSA goes, we know you're not him, but sorry, you can't fly.
02:38:56.000So there is some clear harassment, but at the same time there's not harassment.
02:38:59.000Like, there's been Green Party people who are going to fly to You know, from Maine to Minneapolis-St.
02:39:05.000Paul for a Green Party meeting, and they find out they're on the list because they don't like their politics.
02:39:11.000Look, they've already attacked me physically.
02:39:13.000They've already done all kinds of stuff to me, and they know I increase my attack every time they do.
02:40:04.000You know, I mean, again, the number one cause of death is getting on the highway.
02:40:08.000And, uh, until you're 55, and it's heart attacks and cancer, respectively.
02:40:11.000But we all still get in our cars and hurl down the road at 80 miles an hour with 18 wheelers right beside us.
02:40:17.000I was driving up to a car dealership to pick up my car that had some work done on it, Saturday, and I saw a pickup truck all smashed with them cutting the guy out, tuned into the news later driving back, and he was dead!
02:40:28.000Now, Al-Qaeda didn't kill him, George Bush didn't kill him, Chewbacabra didn't kill him, and all this lions and tigers and bears didn't kill him.
02:41:14.000Do you give fellow filmmakers sort of like a blanket, I guess, approval to use your voice or image in documentaries to help get the word out?
02:41:23.000You know, I can't sit here on the radio and just say, oh, blanket, you can do whatever you want because of my enemies will do stuff.
02:41:30.000But I've authorized people for non-profit educational purposes, that is giving my videos away, that you can do that because it's all fair use.
02:41:38.000But I do reserve the right to revoke people who are abusing it, so there isn't just a blanket carte blanche thing.
02:41:48.000But under fair use, you don't have to ask my permission if you want to use a very small portion of what I'm doing, or if you are critiquing what I'm doing, either good or bad.
02:42:00.000So you need to look into the law on that.
02:42:46.000It's going to go away, because people have waken up now and they're realizing what they've seen in front of them is, you know, Toto, I'm not in Kansas anymore.
02:43:06.000A similar thing, I predict a similar thing is going to happen here that happened in like Great Britain a long time ago when they had similar things with supposed terrorist attacks.
02:43:17.000People in the government, people will, you know, go into office and then suddenly realize, this legislation defeats the purpose of our form of government.
02:43:47.000What I first thought it was about, I thought it might be about the gold that was missing out of the bottom of the World Trade Center in the economic... That's right.
02:44:40.000They have a Fox TV special, Lone Gunman, where a government group hijacks a jet to fly it by remote control, and blame it on hijackers, into the World Trade Center so they can attack Afghanistan.
02:44:51.000Then I have Dean Haglund on From the star of the show, saying that the CIA was planning those stories on them.
02:44:58.000I mean, how much more obvious is that?
02:45:01.000It doesn't get much more obvious than that, Matt.
02:45:04.000No, it doesn't get much more obvious than that.
02:45:07.000Go ahead and finish up what you were saying there, Matt.
02:45:10.000Well, I'd like to add that I was just talking to my rep at MIDAS yesterday, and he informed me that the M3 money supply figures are going to be discontinued In March, and that's what I think makes the gold so pertinent.
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02:52:04.000Dr. Reuben and Dave, that'll be it for calls.
02:52:06.000This has been a great broadcast today.
02:52:07.000I want to thank all of our guests that came on.
02:52:09.000If you missed the interview in the last hour with a professor from Notre Dame, Notre Dame University, who debated this John Yoo about how the government says they can torture children in front of their parents.
02:52:27.000My favorite part of Loose Change is where you show the jet turbine blowing I think it's an ambulance or a car away from it as it approaches on a runway.
02:52:36.000Proving that a 747 couldn't have flown over that highway without tumbling cars over hitting the Pentagon.
02:52:47.000Yeah, the reason I removed that clip from the second edition of Loose Change is because there was some speculation that that video was actually a computer simulation or something that was staged and not actually real.
02:54:44.000And you want to know what they're thinking of reopening the plant?
02:54:47.000I thought Winchester was already in Japan.
02:54:49.000No, well, there's a New Haven plant here, and they're making stuff, and they're going to be closing it, and it's going to be going, the rest of the operation, if they've got some of it there, is going to be going to China.
02:55:00.000Yeah, I knew Japan actually had manufacturing plants in China.
02:55:05.000I thought it was a Japanese operation.
02:55:06.000Well, according to what I'm hearing from the Mayor of New Haven on the local news, which of course you can take what you take, he's trying to stop it.
02:55:13.000But I'll give you another quick example.
02:55:15.000I worked for the world's largest oil company, won't mention their name, for five years.