Alex Jones reveals the truth about 9/11. Big Brother's cover-up and the truth behind it. Alex Jones and Sally Krumholidays. Alex Jones is a conservative commentator and host of the Conspiracy Theories podcast. He is a former U.S. Army sniper, DEA agent, DEA special agent, CIA informant, DEA field office analyst, DEA intelligence analyst, CIA analyst, and CIA contractor. He served as a highly decorated Vietnam vet, DEA Special Agent in Latin America, DEA counter narcotics agent, and was an eyewitness to massive government-controlled narcotics trafficking. He has more information and documentation than anyone we ve ever interviewed.
00:00:30.000Already Friday, the third day of February, 2006.
00:00:34.000And I've been waiting for this day since last week when we set Cele Castillo up for the broadcast.
00:00:43.000He'll be with us coming up in about 30 minutes throughout the balance of this transmission against tyranny today.
00:00:50.000A highly decorated Vietnam Army sniper, of course, highest level DEA agent in Latin America, a police officer before that, and an eyewitness to massive government-controlled narcotics trafficking.
00:01:09.000The war on drugs internationally is against anyone who is growing drugs, purifying drugs, shipping drugs into the western world and not paying their cut into the big banks and the CIA and others.
00:01:23.000and he's an eyewitness to all of it, one of many agents, former agents, who bravely come forward who we've had on the broadcast.
00:01:29.000But he probably has more information and more eyewitness accounts and documentation than anyone we've ever interviewed.
00:01:37.000So, Sally will be joining us in about 30 minutes.
00:01:40.000And then the third hour, he's going to continue to ride shotgun with us.
00:01:44.000Mr. Sands, who was on Channel 4 in England yesterday.
00:01:49.000I want to thank a listener for instant messaging me the Channel 4 article within minutes of it airing.
00:01:54.000We were able to get the guest on quickly.
00:01:56.000And he, of course, a big lawyer working inside the government, and they have all the documents where Bush and Blair, this dwarfs the Downing Street memo where they're talking about, oh, yeah, we've got to make up intelligence to attack Iraq because the U.S. is...
00:02:11.000is going in regardless, a year before, of course, the invasion of March of 2003.
00:02:15.000This is Bush and Blair, the minutes of the meeting, where they're in there, talking about how, well, we can stage a WMD, capture or find.
00:02:28.000We can have a quote informant come out and have them lie and say they found them.
00:02:33.000We can paint one of our spy planes up like a UN plane and try to fly it low and get Saddam to shoot it down or shoot at it and then claim that Saddam's attacking the United Nations.
00:02:44.000Again, we're not taking sides here with Saddam Hussein.
00:02:47.000We're just covering the news and the facts.
00:02:51.000Yet again, showing you how unbelievably criminal this administration is.
00:02:57.000An administration that every day Is announcing that they have dictator powers, that they don't even have to follow the law.
00:03:05.000That, oh, if you strike down the Patriot Act, I'll just enforce it when there's not even a law.
00:03:09.000Or, I'm allowed to order the torture of people even if it is against the law.
00:03:14.000And now I'm glad to say everybody is starting to talk about that this administration is openly announcing that it's a dictatorship.
00:03:24.000It's unbelievable, and I'm telling you why they're so arrogant, why they're announcing it all now.
00:03:29.000Why, no matter how crazy it sounds, they're pushing it.
00:03:32.000Because the globalists, I'm more sure than ever, are going to carry out terror attacks in this country, and then say, see, you wouldn't let us take all your rights, so the terrorists hit again, and now we're really going to take over, and it's for your own good, so just shut up!
00:03:47.000You can really see how they're setting it up, and if we don't expose who's behind the terror, And expose this paradigm so that they lose their power, the power they have to be able to stage attacks and pose as our saviors, that it's going to happen.
00:04:02.000We're trying to save lives, and more importantly in the long term, save America, because Hitler used the Reichstag to take over Germany.
00:04:11.000And many other governments have staged terror attacks to enslave their populations, and our government is doing it right now, and I shouldn't even say it's our government.
00:04:19.000It is a criminal cabal, a junta, a putsch, that has taken over, and I even had Paul Craig Roberts on yesterday, number two, Department of Treasury, Reagan administration, one of the most prominent conservatives in America, real conservatives, And he said, without me even prompting him, he said, you know, 9-11's the foundation.
00:04:39.000What makes us think the story we heard about 9-11 is true when all the government does is lie to us?
00:04:45.000Well, we know the story of 9-11 isn't true.
00:05:01.000Hey folks, Alex Jones here, and I'm very excited to announce the release of my bombshell documentary film, 9-1-1, The Road to Tyranny, on DVD.
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00:08:19.000The huge whistleblower, Sella Castillo, Army sniper, highly decorated Vietnam, police officer, police detective, DEA agent, highest level DEA agent in control of the operations, counter drug operations for all of Latin America who counter drug operations for all of Latin America who learned that our government was dealing the drugs, controlling the drug dealers, deciding who went down and who stayed in power, and engaging in mass murder.
00:08:46.000And one of the dark lords of all of this is John Negroponte, who is now the head of, quote, all intelligence, or the Heinrich Himmler.
00:09:12.000They finally learned what we learned a few years ago.
00:09:15.000That Internet 2 and the big corporations are going to start shutting off the old web And then forcing you through hubs, which track and trace you, and where there's no free speech, and where you literally can't even type things that are anti-government or anti-Rupert Murdoch.
00:09:50.000In America, it's going to be the companies themselves doing it, and you won't even be able to type things on websites or on different news groups that they don't agree with.
00:10:02.000And of course, MySpace has already begun this.
00:10:04.000It's been announced the last few weeks that it won't let you post anti-Rupert Murdoch or anti-Fox stuff on it, or it won't let you promote any of their business competitors, or in some cases, write bad reviews of them.
00:10:16.000People trying to go in and do that on their own little webpages on MySpace are being restricted.
00:10:22.000It just won't let you type it with that AI, artificial intelligence technology.
00:10:49.000The parent company, of course, Rupert Murdoch, for Fox Television and the rest of it.
00:10:54.000So, there it is in your face, and so later if I have time, I may not, but this is up on PrisonPlanet.com, It's a big article and it goes through everything we told you how they're going to do it and it's not around the bend, it's starting now.
00:11:09.000The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open, and non-discriminatory internet of today to a privately run and branded service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online.
00:11:25.000And then it gets into controlling content as well.
00:11:38.000You'll get the Austin American Statesman.
00:11:41.000Because they've had an Internet 2 meeting here two years ago.
00:11:43.000They had one, well, two years ago in London, last year in Austin, excuse me.
00:11:50.000And they openly said, we're just going to start shutting down the old web and then it'll fail and then we'll shut down the peering agreements like what we had in the last few months between Level 3 and Cogent, two of the big backbone providers.
00:12:04.000They're just going to do that on purpose across the board and then force you onto the controlled hubs where you then through contract Fraud is what it is.
00:12:13.000Sign away your rights and acquiesce and agree to it.
00:12:18.000But the racketeering and the collusion is the fact that these companies are getting together with the government to do this to begin with.
00:12:24.000It's like they're shutting down the existing roads and then making you go onto their toll roads is basically what's happening.
00:12:29.000But on these toll roads where you'll be charged very high prices, we're talking ten cents an email or more, it's going to be amazing.
00:13:23.000It's just like the real world toll roads.
00:13:25.000I was listening to Jerry Brownfield this morning and they had a state rep on from Indiana who was talking about how Centra, the big Spanish company with Juan Carlos owning part of it, king of Spain, is just going to be given one of their roads for 75 years for a pittance of money.
00:13:41.0003.5 billion and in the first decade it's going to be worth tens of billions and in 75 years, hundreds of billions.
00:13:49.000Again, they just come in and buy off the roads!
00:13:52.000It isn't, quote, privatization where they build a new road, and then if you want to use it, you get charged, or if they want to build a road, they've got to buy the land from you.
00:14:00.000The government comes and steals your land, doesn't even pay you for it in many cases, then they give it to these people, the government builds the road, and then hands it over to them.
00:14:11.000I'm already ranting, and I've got a guest coming up, and I've got all this news to cover.
00:14:18.000Blair War Provocation Memo Sends Warning to Iran.
00:14:24.000And to make a long story short, we've got a guest coming on in the third hour about this.
00:14:28.000It's just mainstream news, not even denied.
00:14:31.000In a Bush-Blair meeting that there's transcripts of, we have the exact quotes, and we have one of the top lawyers come on and talk about this in the third hour.
00:14:38.000They just said we can paint up an American plane to look like a U.N.
00:14:41.000plane, fly it low and try to get Saddam to shoot it down.
00:14:46.000And what's really hidden in this article that no one's really paying attention to is Bush says, well, we're going to have an informant or somebody come out and lie about WMDs and put out a fake report.
00:14:57.000You see, they didn't just say they were WMDs and then were mistaken.
00:15:12.000Right now, I want to air a clip of Bush.
00:15:16.000Just about, what, six months ago, on C-SPAN, and there's a whole bunch of these quotes, we don't have time to air them all, where he says, don't worry, the Patriot Act, we still gotta have a warrant, we're not spying on you.
00:15:28.000And then he gets caught, and then he says, no, no, no, I don't need a warrant.
00:15:31.000But go ahead and roll that first clip.
00:15:34.000Our country must also remain on the offensive against terrorism here at home.
00:15:39.000The enemy has not lost the desire or capability to attack us.
00:15:45.000Fortunately, this nation has superb professionals in law enforcement, intelligence, the military, and homeland security.
00:16:22.000So it's kind of hard for me to kind of get bogged down in the law.
00:16:30.000I'm not going to play like one either.
00:16:33.000So the first thing I want you to think about when you hear Patriot Act is that we changed the law and bureaucratic mindset to allow for the sharing of information.
00:17:04.000When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so.
00:17:10.000It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland because we value the Constitution.
00:17:22.000So with court order, law enforcement officials can now use What's called roving wiretaps, which will prevent a terrorist from switching cell phones in order to get a message out to one of his buddies.
00:17:34.000Okay, so we'll air more of that later, but notice the Patriot Act didn't authorize the roving wiretaps.
00:17:40.000That was already in place and being done for decades.
00:17:45.000Number two lie is he says we're not doing anything without court orders or warrants.
00:17:49.000We all know that's a lie and we know that he had big debates in the White House and Colin Powell had said you could fall because of this, this is illegal and Bush had said no we're going to do it, I don't care, I'm above the law.
00:18:00.000So we know he knows that he's lying when he said that.
00:18:04.000Now he says I'm not going to wait to get a warrant to catch bin Laden if he's calling America and everybody goes wait a minute.
00:18:13.00072 hours after you do any wiretap or any warrantless search you want, then you've got to go to the FISA court.
00:18:20.000And by the way, people keep saying, Alex, you've spent a month.
00:18:22.000They can go to the FISA court after 72 hours and just say, ongoing investigation, and then a 20-plus day, what is it, 29-day extension is added.
00:18:32.000On the 30th day, they've got to be back in there and then tell them supposedly at least something about the case.
00:18:39.000So he gets up and says, if your pregnant wife's going into labor, we've all heard this, and driving to the hospital, do you call the judge first?
00:18:49.000It's like the head of the NSA last week on the National Press Club saying, the reporter says, hey, the Fourth Amendment says probable cause.
00:19:00.000And the head of the NSA goes, no it doesn't, does not, does not say that, does not, says reasonable searches, and we're reasonably searching you without warrants.
00:19:09.000But the Fourth Amendment does say probable cause in a warrant, with people swearing to what they've seen and what the government's specifically looking for.
00:19:15.000And they're only allowed to seize while they're there what they're looking for, because the founders knew that government's more dangerous than any street-level thug, and better a thousand of them go free than we get a tyrannical government.
00:19:30.000It's really that simple, and just the average American, they'll hear all this talk about, don't worry, we're protecting your Constitution.
00:19:36.000Well, they don't know what the Constitution is, so Bush can be burning it, shredding it, spitting on it, using it as toilet paper, and the average person doesn't even know what the Constitution is, so how do they recognize that?
00:19:53.000But we just showed you, what, three or four lies right there?
00:19:55.000I mean, how many lies until you start to not trust these people?
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00:25:54.000And coming up in the third hour, Bush-Blair war provocation memo since warning to Iran.
00:26:00.000Today's revelations that Tony Blair and George W. Bush Debated staging an act of provocation to goad Saddam Hussein into war sends a very clear warning as to how a pretext for a conflict with Iran could be manufactured.
00:26:14.000It was reported today that Bush and Blair's 31st January White House meeting was a rubber stamp on the decision to go to war.
00:26:23.000Irrespective of whether the United Nations had passed a new resolution authorizing the use of force.
00:26:31.000As far back as 1999, there have even been elected George W. Bush, told his biographer before he was even elected that he thought it was his political destiny to invade Iraq.
00:27:21.000Our ships went in there, I should say globalist ships, went in there, ships we paid for though, attacked the North Vietnamese in that peninsula.
00:27:30.000They were smart enough not to fire back and even said in their papers that, hey, they were trying to get us to attack them and start the war.
00:27:36.000When they didn't fire back, they got on the news and said that they had been attacked and that they hadn't even fired on them.
00:27:42.000Imagine, you go shoot at somebody, then they're smart enough not to shoot back, then you go lie and say that they shot at you when you're the one that shot at them.
00:27:50.000And then 58,000 Americans died and over a million plus Vietnamese.
00:27:54.000But then in the same article, and they have the transcripts of this in the very same article, They go into Bush, let me just find the quotes here, saying that we can have a, quote, informant, a defector come out and say that he saw the WMDs.
00:28:14.000And now they're just doing that retroactively with this former Iraqi general out saying that.
00:28:23.000We're going to lie and say that our witnesses have seen WMDs, not just that we think they're there, know they're there, but know that we've seen them, and we can stage this with an airplane.
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00:33:01.000Well, Stella Castillo joins us in studio, Stella Castillo joins us in studio, and I've interviewed her many times, probably studio, and I've interviewed her many times, probably ten He's a fellow Texan.
00:33:25.000There's so many great Texans involved in the fight against corruption and the New World Order.
00:33:29.000And I read his book about four years ago, and, I mean, you want something that's definitive proof of government-sponsored Drug dealing and terror against the American people, because that's what the drug war is, is a terror attack on the American people.
00:33:42.000Powder Burns, Cocaine Contrast, and the Drug War is an incredibly powerful book, and it's by Sally Costello III and Dave Harmon, and I challenge everybody to go to Infowars.com and to get a copy of this.
00:33:58.000He just brought us, what, 200 of these today?
00:34:02.000Sully just brought us 200 of these today in his truck, and so we've now got them right here at the Infowars Hacienda, right here at the Infowars bookstore and video store online for you at Infowars.com.
00:34:14.000And we also have links to Sully's powerful website that is just amazing, and there's new material up there of some of the passports and photos of some of the people that Negroponte's death squads dealt with.
00:34:26.000We're talking about women, children, husbands, and this vicious killer is now in control, this overlord is now in control of all intelligence.
00:34:35.000Sully, it is a great honor to have you here with us today my friend.
00:34:39.000Well thank you sir, thank you for having me.
00:34:42.000Listen, I know you don't like to talk about yourself.
00:34:44.000Every time I try to get you to introduce yourself, you really just kind of glaze over it.
00:34:47.000But I want you, for the radio audience and for the TV audience who will be watching this in the near future, spend about five minutes.
00:34:54.000I mean, tell us, because it's important about your upbringing, your integrity, all the different positions you were in.
00:34:59.000I mean, I really respect your amount of experience.
00:35:02.000And then being inside that situation, Well, first of all, I do come from a very patriotic family.
00:35:09.000Third generation here in the United States.
00:35:10.000than I think you ever did in the past.
00:35:12.000So, Sully, tell us about Sully Castillo and your life.
00:35:16.000Well, first of all, I do come from a very patriotic family, third generation here in the United States.
00:35:24.000My father is a World War II veteran, and as the only son, to show how patriotic we were, he instructed me to go into the military, and, of course, that was devastating for my mom because how can you send our only son into war?
00:35:40.000And I went into Vietnam and served my country proudly and came back, went to school, graduated, became a police officer.
00:35:48.000And, you know, I was educated very highly on what it took to be a patriot.
00:35:54.000And I continued to serve my country by being a police officer, a detective sergeant.
00:36:00.000And in 1979, one of the very few Latino agents was hired by the DEA.
00:36:05.000And, of course, my first assignment was in New York City.
00:36:08.000And after doing four years in New York City, I was assigned to Central and South America, where I got involved in searching and destroying missions on coca fields and marijuana plantations, opium plantations and so forth.
00:36:22.000And it was an eradication program we had going up there.
00:36:25.000But let's see, you're just glazing over all this.
00:36:27.000Let's go back to your sniper activity in Vietnam.
00:36:31.000My last couple of few months in Vietnam, I was I was volunteered to be a sniper in Vietnam and I got on the job training in Vietnam and we would go out there into Laos and Cambodia and do some sniping for our unit.
00:36:51.000And basically a lot of people think that back in 1971 was almost the close of the war and it wasn't because we were very few that were left in there and we were trying to do as much as we could with what little we had.
00:37:06.000I had my own squad going out there and doing all kinds of covert operations and became a sniper and I was trained there and went straight into doing some covert operations for my unit in Cambodia.
00:37:22.000So that experience and also your high test scores, you moved up quickly once you became a police officer.
00:37:29.000Then you became a DEA officer and went right into, as you said, searching and destroying missions there.
00:37:34.000Well, basically what happened, the DEA at that time had an operation called Operation Snowcap.
00:37:48.000squads to go out there and fight the so-called narco-terrorist units, uh, cells that were in, uh, in the jungles of South America and Central America.
00:38:00.000When did you start, and of course you've met George Bush, you've met all these people, I mean tell us specifically how high you rose in the DEA, and then let's go through your awakening when you really started to see the government control of the narcotics trade.
00:38:14.000Well basically it was when we started training the death squads, I realized that there was something wrong with What we were doing, and I was in denial at the beginning, and secondly, I was trying to justify what they were doing.
00:38:28.000And, you know, all my life I wanted to be a drug agent, and, you know, when I left Vietnam, I promised myself that if I did survive that war, I would be a federal drug agent, which I did.
00:38:37.000But when I came to Central America and South America, I realized for the first time that I came into contradictions on my assignment.
00:38:45.000And basically, we turned out to be the bad guys.
00:38:47.000We were actually the guys who were getting away with murder.
00:38:50.000And we were out there training dead squads instead of fighting the so-called war on drugs.
00:38:55.000And it was in Salvador, Guatemala, when I finally realized that the United States government was heavily involved in drug trafficking.
00:39:03.000And it was in January of 1986 where I met George Bush Sr.
00:39:09.000at the cocktail party at the Ambassador's Residence, another Cuban by the name of Piedra.
00:39:15.000Who's a Cuban fighter, you know, fighting against Cuba.
00:39:19.000And at that time, they brought in a lot of Cubans from the Miami area to help set up covert operations into Central America.
00:39:28.000And that's when I told George Bush myself that, you know, he came up to me and asked me what was my assignment in Central America.
00:39:34.000And I basically told him that I was the one that was covering El Salvador and that we had received a lot of reliable information that the Contras themselves were heavily involved in drug trafficking at El Pango Airport.
00:39:45.000And I may have mentioned that I met Felix Rodriguez and Oliver North and so forth.
00:39:50.000He just smiled, shook my hand and walked away from me.
00:39:52.000So I knew then and there that my government was complicit in drug trafficking.
00:39:58.000You're getting to talk to, I guess, Vice President at that time.
00:40:01.000Yes, he was Vice President at that time.
00:40:02.000So, I mean, here you are, this high-level DEA officer, the head of those operations interfacing with the military for Latin America, and you've got this chance to talk to George Bush, You bring this up to him and he just smiles and walks off.
00:40:20.000That confirmed to me that Mike Gowron was involved in this atrocity.
00:40:24.000The second confirmation was that later that afternoon he met with George Bush and Negroponte and the other guys that came in from the surrounding areas and they met at the third floor of the U.S.
00:41:20.000For example, we brought in mercenaries from Venezuela.
00:41:23.000They all worked for the contract labor for the CIA, and they were the ones that were killing a lot of the people and getting involved in, you know, setting up Uh, spend operations on killing people and blame it on the guerrillas and so forth.
00:41:38.000Now, it's a problem, reaction, solution, right?
00:41:41.000You do something bad and blame it on somebody.
00:41:44.000And one of the incidents was in 1989 where the Jesuit priest were murdered.
00:41:50.000Three of them and three of the ladies, the nuns, and a couple of kids.
00:41:54.000And they went in there and they massacred those people and then they turn around and blame it on the FMLN.
00:42:01.000That the guerrilla group and the only reason he was exposed that there was an American advisor with him in the group that couldn't live with himself and came into the United States and told the whole story and wrote the story on who actually did the murders.
00:42:18.000And I was myself part of the plan at the, who meet at the Sheraton Hotel The Sheraton Hotel and one of the captains that was involved in the murders set up the whole blueprint of how they were going to do it.
00:42:35.000Well, I learned it because when I went to Salvador, I would always meet with them because they were supposed to be our counterparts from the Atlacat, the Special Forces Salvadorian.
00:42:47.000They were very well known to go out there and kill a lot of people.
00:42:50.000And there was a special unit that was trained by our special forces from Delta Force to the A-Team that went in there and they trained those people on how to go out there and kill counterintelligence units and so forth.
00:43:03.000And to be clear, because I've studied this, obviously I didn't live it like you have, but I've interviewed a lot of other folks who were there, and they've mirrored what you're saying, just from different perspectives and angles, that most of the time it wasn't even really even killing their so-called enemies.
00:43:13.000They would, a lot of times, just go kill innocent people, kill little kids, and go, oh look, the terrorists did this.
00:43:20.000Especially every time the funding came up with Congress to try to to fund the so-called covert war, or the counter war, that would set up some kind of big operation where innocent people get killed and blame it on the guerrillas.
00:43:37.000Did you ever talk to these guys and go, "How do you kill?" Say, "How do you slit a little five-year-old boy's throat?" You know, I did that.
00:43:44.000Believe it or not, I asked an agent, CIA agent, by the name of Randy Kapster.
00:43:48.000He says, "How can you guys do this and get away?" Look, we own these third world countries.
00:44:58.000You told me a year and a half ago on this broadcast and the transcripts are up there, the audio is up there.
00:45:05.000You said they're hiring Latin American death squads, the commanders or the low-level men from 20 years ago, 15 years ago, and they're making them captains and sending them to Iraq.
00:45:15.000And I thought, well, Sally always tells the truth.
00:45:17.000That must be true, but I didn't have any documentation.
00:45:20.000Now it's been in Latin American papers, six months later, and then now in the last five months, it's been in US and British papers that thousands of quote, great anti-communist fighters of the 70s and 80s are all going to Iraq, and then it turns out they're the ones in there raping these little kids in front of their parents.
00:45:38.000Then John Yoo In a debate with Professor Castle up in Chicago, and we had the professor on, we even have the audio of it, he says, you wrote in memos, White House memos, that you can order the torture of children in front of their parents.
00:45:52.000And John, you said, yes, we can do that.
00:45:54.000Now they're admitting they torture children.
00:45:57.000Well, you know, the sad thing about it, when Miguel Aponte was the ambassador in Honduras and in El Salvador, and as you know right now, El Salvador is the only Latin American country that's got troops in Iraq.
00:46:09.000Now, the guy who was in charge of the death squads in El Salvador was a U.S.
00:46:17.000He's the one that set up the whole Operation Phoenix blueprints into El Salvador.
00:46:23.000And now, Colonel Steele is in Iraq running the commandos.
00:46:27.000With the Salvadorian military that's up there now.
00:46:30.000So it's the same blueprints I used in Vietnam.
00:46:32.000They brought it into Guatemala and Salvador and it worked perfectly.
00:46:35.000Now they've taken it into Iraq where they're going to implement the same tactics that they used in Guatemala and it's commandos going out there killing people.
00:46:45.000What has changed, though, because back in the 70s and 80s they would deny all this.
00:46:48.000Now John Yoo, who's the counterpart of Alberto Gonzales, who also wrote memos similar to this, saying Bush is above the law, but Yoo went further than Gonzales.
00:47:03.000They said we can, quote, torture small children in front of their parents and crush their, I don't want to say it, their genitalia in front of them.
00:47:12.000They should all be arrested right now.
00:47:14.000I mean, what does that say about them that they're now announcing it openly?
00:47:17.000Well, they're admitting that what happened ten years ago...
00:47:23.000And the sad thing about it that I remember when Bush Jr.
00:47:26.000came into being president, he denied the National Archives to release the documents at the time period that Reagan and Bush were involved in Central America.
00:47:36.000And the reason they're being sealed right now is because he won't release them even though Congress has passed a law that says you've got to release all documents after 10 years.
00:47:45.000And he will not release him because it's going to implicate his father and Reagan involving in drug trafficking and all these atrocities.
00:47:54.000When they would kill little kids in different villages and then leave their bodies laying out saying that other people done it, now again the documents are out, the witnesses are there, it's admitted that it was the death squads doing it.
00:48:05.000I mean, what would they specifically... I mean, I know they'd shoot him, they'd stab him.
00:48:09.000I mean, would they do the stuff that John Yu is talking about?
00:48:11.000Would they torture the kids in front of the parents?
00:48:14.000And, you know, it's so familiar because I see it today on the drug war where agents will go up there and they can't find anything on the main guy, so they use the wife or the kids to arrest him and try to get the father to commit that he was involved in drug trafficking.
00:48:32.000They've said in Iraq that they're kidnapping whole villages of women and children and they make the men come in and admit they're terrorists.
00:48:51.000I mean, you can tell these people have conspired to genocide a whole group of people up there.
00:48:57.000I want to get more into the drug dealing, more into your amazing book, Powder Burns, Cocaine Conquers and the Drug War, a must-have.
00:49:03.000But to the police officers listening right now, to the CIA people, because they call me, I get emails, most of them are on our side now.
00:49:10.000To everybody out there listening, what do you want to say to them about what they've got to do to stop this?
00:49:14.000Because it's clear that they're meaning to do all this here in America.
00:49:18.000And you said that a year and a half ago on this show, and now I have the Houston Chronicle where they're reporting that Halliburton's going to run camps in America.
00:49:26.000Exactly, and they're getting away with it.
00:49:29.000The martial law will probably kick in in a few years or so.
00:49:32.000But police officers are going to realize that violating civil rights under the Fourth Amendment, where you can stop a vehicle and the guy doesn't give you permission to search a vehicle, then you call the canines to come and do your job. then you call the canines to come and do your That's illegal, that's profiling, and you know, you can't be doing that.
00:49:54.000What's going to happen, most citizens now are going to file civil suits against police departments, they're going to lose a lot of money, and a lot of police officers think that they can get away, well they're going to sue the department.
00:50:08.000And they will take your retirement, they will take whatever you have, monetary values, and the courts are going to rule.
00:50:16.000And the President of the United States has said one time since, you know, racial profile is illegal in this country.
00:50:23.000Well, more than even just racial profiling, you mentioned martial law.
00:50:27.000I mean, let's say the same group of criminals sets off an A-bomb in a city and then says, we've got to have martial law to keep you safe.
00:50:33.000When we get back, I mean, I want to hear you specifically give the police your take on what they should do when they're asked to do unconstitutional things, criminal things like they ask you to do.
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00:54:25.000Even in the third hour we have a guest coming on who broke the big news over on national television yesterday from inside the government about Bush and of course Blair thinking of ways to provocateur Saddam into doing something so they could invade and then Bush also in the memos.
00:54:41.000Snickers and laughs and talks about how they can just have some of their quote defectors lie and say that they found WMDs.
00:56:12.000Well, basically, a lot of people would think, well, they're making money for covert operations, but the bottom line is they were lining their own pockets.
00:56:21.000And when I say their own pockets, I'm talking about Felix Rodriguez, Oliver North, Bush Sr., and so forth.
00:56:27.000And the reason why is, for example, when Oliver North sold those missiles to Iran, that large for three times the amount of the money that were valued, he kept that money and put it in the Swiss bank account.
00:56:40.000He put it under his wife's name, Betsy North, and we found $10 million in the Swiss bank account.
00:57:16.000And, you know, uh, we have memos where North, uh, is, uh, said in the DC, uh, Three to Honduras to pick up cocaine paste or to South America and bring it back.
00:57:28.000Well, you know, from the other end of this, we've had Terry Reid up at MENA in Arkansas, the CIA officer, just there to train pilots, and he's there watching them unload cocaine, and he mentions all the same names.
00:57:41.000Well, you know, there's an old saying that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks, because Clinton was governor at the time.
00:57:48.000and when this covert operation was being run out of Salvador into Mena, Arkansas.
00:57:53.000So, you know, there is evidence to show.
00:57:57.000But some people say, but wait, I saw him do a drug bust.
00:58:00.000Those are the little cartels that aren't paying their cut.
00:58:03.000Exactly, they're not paying their tax or getting their permission.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:15.000Alright, my friends, we've now started the second hour of this worldwide broadcast as we blast out on the AM and FM dial from Southern California to Chicago, Illinois, from Austin, Texas to Pensacola, Florida, from Kansas City, Missouri to Niagara Falls, New York.
01:00:50.000That's how much the United States government depends on drug money.
01:00:53.000And it comes from the U.S., comes in from Mexico, from South America, and so forth, and people that do not Play ball with the United States and the drug trafficking, and I was giving you an example earlier on Noriega.
01:01:07.000You know, Noriega had dealt, laundered money for the cartels for many years.
01:01:11.000And when he refused to train the Contras in Panama, then George Bush Sr.
01:01:33.000There was plenty of money to go around and they knew that.
01:01:36.000They were so scared that he knew where all the skeletons were buried in the United States government and that's why they picked him up and locked him up and won't release him.
01:01:52.000You know, I think they tried to release him a couple of years ago, and Bush Sr.
01:01:56.000said, no, don't release him, because I'm scared for my life.
01:01:59.000Well, it's the same thing here in the United States.
01:02:02.000I talk to a lot of police detectives here on air, and they talk about how every time they get up into money laundering or drug dealing, it's just there's certain drug dealers, they're told, leave them alone.
01:02:29.000Later, I want to talk about Los Zetas and these other groups, which, again, everything you've said on this broadcast, Sully, has turned out to then be in the mainstream news.
01:02:37.000Los Zetas, rocket attacks, blowing up cars, killing people in Texas, police.
01:02:42.000And the media keeps it on the lowdown, though.
01:02:44.000It's like something you're not supposed to hear about, because, really, these guys are the muscle for the boys in the White House, aren't they?
01:03:00.000A lot of people laugh at me when I say that, but that's what they're doing.
01:03:03.000They're using the chaos in Laredo, in El Laredo with all the killings and everything.
01:03:08.000When they come in, they're gonna use drug trafficking and corruption to take over the land in Mexico. - You know, I wanna go over this slowly when we get back, Sully.
01:03:17.000I wanna explain how this works because when I see big White House controlled foundations funding the La Reconquista's and others, What they don't get is, that's just the spin they're going to use.
01:03:29.000Oh yeah, Mexico's merging with America.
01:03:32.000No, that's, and then there'll be this hype, you know, this, oh yeah, look, you know.
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01:07:50.000In Powder Burns, for the first time, a DEA agent goes public with detailed information about U.S.
01:07:55.000links to drug trafficking in Central America.
01:07:58.000Powder Burns is the story of Cel Castillo III, He spent 12 years in the Drug Enforcement Administration.
01:08:06.000During that time, he built cases against organized drug rings in Manhattan, raided jungle cocaine labs in the Amazon, conducted aerial eradication operations in Guatemala, and assembled and trained anti-narcotics units in several countries.
01:08:20.000The eerie climax of Agent Costello's career with the DEA took place in El Salvador.
01:08:26.000One day, he received a cable from a fellow agent.
01:08:28.000He was told to investigate possible drug smuggling by Nicaraguan Contras operating out of the Ilopongo Air Force Base.
01:08:35.000And then that's when the book really gets going.
01:08:38.000And he was, I guess a good part of the agency, sent Costello in and then he discovered all this in the next few years.
01:08:46.000Costello quickly discovered that Conquer pilots were indeed smuggling narcotics back to the United States using the same pilots, planes, and hangars at the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Council under the direction of Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, used to maintain their covert supply operations to the Contras.
01:09:03.000And folks, it's a lot more than just that.
01:09:06.000And this book has been out for quite a few years and it stands on its own.
01:09:22.000And if you go to infowars.com We have a link over to Sally's website and some new photos and passports of some of the murdered people that were killed by those by these neocon death squads are posted up there on the site.
01:09:37.000But I want to now move to just Texas to give people a view of what's happening Sally.
01:09:42.000If you can go through You know, we hear the so-called Mexican radio here in Texas praising, haha, it's so funny, the Los Zetas, it's a La Reconquista, you know, the Chicanos are taking over Texas, the Guadalupe Hidalgo treaty is going to be thrown down, but then I went and looked, it's all big neocon money, and I didn't, I wasn't even I'm aware of the fact that you knew this during the break.
01:10:09.000We're actually funding to stir all this up and the CFR comes out and says, we're going to merge Latin America with the U.S.
01:10:16.000and then they're telling the people in Mexico, oh no, you're taking America over when in reality Manhattan and D.C.
01:10:22.000are taking Mexico over and they're using Los Zetas military teams trained at Fort Benning and other places To go out and enforce and go out and kill the other drug dealers that aren't paying their cut into the U.S.
01:10:38.000Now, Sully, you talked about this a year-plus ago on this broadcast.
01:10:42.000Now, pieces of that have come out in the mainstream news, just like pieces of you talking about how they're hiring by the thousands death squad soldiers from Iran-Contra for Iraq that had been in no newspapers.
01:10:57.000So can you go through what's really happening?
01:11:00.000Well, basically, Texas is going to be the front line of the so-called war on drugs.
01:11:08.000The United States has controlled Mexico already for many, many years.
01:11:11.000And one of the issues, for example, is propaganda.
01:11:17.000And the way they're doing it is there's a guy like, for example, named Luis de la Garza, who runs a big radio station in Dallas.
01:11:25.000He used to do the Spanish programs for the Texas Rangers when Bush was president of the Texas Rangers.
01:11:31.000And basically he has now brought in all the money from Mexico to go out on the Southwest and buy all the radio stations so they can use that as propaganda for the Latino votes that's coming up for the next election.
01:11:47.000They're buying little bits and pieces.
01:11:49.000They're using a whole bunch of stuff just to bring in from Mexico like the centers that are being trained in the US, not in Mexico.
01:11:58.000The centers are being trained in ranches in South Texas.
01:12:03.000And to justify my allegations, you got the Caibiles, the special forces units in Guatemala that I trained are now being trained, training the Cetas up here in South Texas.
01:12:18.000So we got all those people that used to work for the United States government in those dirt world countries are now, they're bringing in those special forces guys in to fight with the Cetas.
01:12:26.000And so they're going to use a widening drug war in the Southwest as the cover for covert operations.
01:12:32.000And then they're going to use it as an example or as a spin to try to take over Mexico because, you know, you've got Mexico that's got the minerals and the gas and the oil down in...
01:12:43.000We're hearing Haliburton's going to have to build FEMA centers for the drug war, for the illegals, and for bad American citizens all over Texas.
01:14:13.000What's going on now, remember for many, many years there's been drug trafficking.
01:14:20.000But we've never seen it to the extent it's happening in Laredo where people are getting killed left and right.
01:14:23.000Innocent people are getting killed left and right.
01:14:26.000So they are building a chaos and they're going to use, once it gets so big, they're going to bring the troops in to the borders.
01:14:33.000They're going to use all federal agencies from park, wildlife and so forth to Start buying them night vision equipment and building up militias to go into the borders and start, you know, killing people so they can say it's the Setas and it's the drug traffickers and now they've got a $30,000 bounty on any border patrol guy they kill and so forth.
01:14:59.000So, you know, they're building up this whole thing as an excuse to come in and take over Mexico.
01:15:04.000Just like they put Saddam into power and built all that up.
01:15:06.000Just like they put Bin Laden into power and built that up.
01:15:09.000Just like they create the enemies and then knock them down.
01:15:13.000And then meanwhile, all these people I hear running around waving Mexican flags going, La Reconquista.
01:15:17.000And then I go look at where that funding's coming from.
01:15:19.000It's coming out of the White House and the big foundations to get us all fighting with each other.
01:15:24.000How do we circumvent that and communicate with the public, you know, to all Americans and people in this country that this is being manipulated?
01:16:00.000It always has happened throughout history, but we can lessen how bad the crash is going to be and how long it's going to go for.
01:16:07.000And so we need people to know who the real criminals are, so as things get worse and worse, and everything we say comes true, as everything we said in the past has come true, not because we're geniuses, folks, we just know what's going on, people will then at least realize who is truly to blame.
01:16:22.000Because these globalists are also masters at doing really bad things, and then again, blaming it on somebody else.
01:16:28.000Exactly, and once you do that, then people say, "Okay, they were the real guys, they were the bad guys." When in fact, we said we were the ones that get away with murder.
01:16:37.000We go out there and we just genocide any country that we want.
01:16:41.000We did it with Iran, and we gave Hussein the chemicals to gas Iran.
01:16:49.000Because he was working for us at that time period.
01:16:51.000Every major terrorist has been trained by the United States government.
01:16:54.000And then it's admitted that there were CIA advisors.
01:16:57.000The reason there's film footage of all those people that were nerve gassed by the Iranians and by the Iraqis in those gas wars is because the CIA admittedly was there videotaping it.
01:17:08.000Well yeah, they do that a lot because I remember the operation we had in Guatemala Randy Capser filmed the whole murders of the deaths, the rapes, the torturing of the girls in Guatemala.
01:17:21.000And they've always, I remember where they, at one time, they brought in all Latin America and European intelligence officers into Guatemala to train on new tactics on how to torture people.
01:17:50.000And by the way, ten years ago they denied this.
01:17:53.000Now it's just admitted and they go, yeah, we're torturing people and we're torturing our kids in front of them.
01:17:57.000We got training manuals and yeah, we've even had special forces commanders on who admitted that, well now it's admitted that Fort Benning, Georgia, that they train how to torture up there.
01:18:08.000The School of the Americas has been going on for many, many years and we've been trying to protest this school every year, every November we go out there And I was going to cross the line this year, but I had a lot of people telling me that... Well, they're putting people in jail with felonies for that now.
01:18:22.000Yeah, you know, you do six months to a year in jail if you cross that line.
01:18:26.000But people were telling me, you know, we need you better out here to educate the students and the public instead of being locked up for another year.
01:18:33.000So... Yeah, don't let them get you in jail.
01:18:49.000I mean, you've got a lot of honors, Ellie.
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01:23:25.000Shelley, before we went into that last break, you were talking about being on borrowed time, and talking to Colonel Craig Roberts, who was a sniper in Vietnam, just like you were, said that his Baptist grandpa, who was a preacher, said, Son, believe me, God's going to take you home when he means to, so if you're not meant to die, you're not going to.
01:23:43.000And we're all on borrowed time, so you don't worry about dying, basically.
01:23:47.000And that's the point of view I've taken.
01:24:16.000Every whistleblower knows that you speak to will tell you that it's gotten worse for them than before they blew the whistle on the government.
01:24:25.000And it will continue to get worse on everybody that blows a whistle.
01:24:28.000But, you know, you make your peace with God.
01:24:30.000And you come out and you know probably what the end's going to be, but you continue to fight because somebody's got to carry that flag.
01:24:37.000You know, somebody's got to push forward and go out there and educate the people who these people really are.
01:24:43.000We wouldn't have any freedom if it wasn't for all those people before us that stood up and fought against corruption.
01:24:48.000And you know, it took a handful to start a revolution in this country and basically we are a handful right now of patriots that really love their country and are willing to die for our country.
01:25:00.000Do you think the globalists, these global crime syndicates that are operating, these crime families, It seems like they've gotten so wild now, like they think they're invincible and that they can never get caught because they're getting more and more sloppy.
01:25:12.000Because everything they're doing is being revealed.
01:25:43.000That's how Hitler came to power because a lot of people just didn't, weren't in denial.
01:25:48.000You know, Americans weren't known in the past for being scared.
01:25:51.000We were known for really being willing to get in a fight and stand up against bullies.
01:25:55.000I guess we've just had it so good since the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s.
01:25:59.000You know, the cheeseburgers, the beer, the ball game.
01:26:02.000But it's just so sad to know these criminals can murder and kill whoever they want and do whatever they want.
01:26:08.000Exactly, and that's what the people need to wake up now.
01:26:12.000They need to wake up and take their head out of the sand and get involved.
01:26:19.000Do something, because like I said earlier, it's going to be kind of late to save our kids, but hopefully we're We're enough to save our grandkids.
01:26:27.000Well, Luis Posada, another example, government-sponsored terror, it's admitted, it's publicly admitted, even in the Miami Papers, that he carried out bombings of airplanes with passengers on board to blame it on the Cubans.
01:26:40.000Again, that same story, and he's right here, right now, in the U.S.
01:26:45.000Luis Posada, I worked with him in Salvador when we were training the death squads down in Guatemala.
01:26:50.000and uh... so it's for a guess that help them escape from the jail in venezuela and he brought to the local airport where posar was in charge of that pain the country pilots are all their monies and uh... you know we got uh... documented uh...
01:27:07.000f_b_i_ c_i_ files guys working for the u_s_ Government, getting paid by the U.S.
01:27:11.000Government to be a terrorist in Central America.
01:27:13.000And the reason they continue to do this, and they're arrogant at what they do, is because at the end of the day they know that the President is going to pardon them, just like they pardoned Francisco Barr.
01:27:36.000He hated the Communists, he hated any Cuban that did not support their cause and they would actually go out and kill a whole bunch of people because they did bring in a lot of Cuban exiles to fight the Central American War.
01:27:48.000Now he's about to get in a lot of trouble though for going out and trying and succeeding to blow up passenger planes.
01:28:10.000Now by the way, this is all admitted, and why did he do it again?
01:28:12.000He was working for the CIA, the director at that time was George Bush Sr., and he came back into this country in a false passport, but he came in because he was telling the Bush family that he knew where the scouts were and he needed to be saved from the assassinations but he came in because he was telling the Bush family that he Well, when we come back, I want to take some calls, but I want to ask why now they finally grabbed him.
01:28:40.000And, uh, now they're, uh, talking about prosecuting him for blowing up the plane.
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01:32:34.000Yeah, they did try to blame Cuba on that so we could use an excuse to go in there and try to get him.
01:32:40.000You know, there's a history of how the Cuban exiles have tried to blame Castro For a lot of things you see it now with Venezuela with Hugo Chavez they're trying to do the same thing with him in Peru the same thing with the With with the president up there, and you know we got people like Jorge Ramos from munition who who tries to ambush those people every time he tries to interview and And, you know, we call them gusanos.
01:33:35.000It's approved by the CIA and all the way up to the White House.
01:33:38.000You've got a copy right here of Operation Northwoods that called back in 1962 for blowing up planes and blaming it on Fidel Castro.
01:33:44.000Exactly, it's blueprints that we have that That shows the consistency of history of how we go out there and we destroy innocent people or material things and then blame it on our enemy.
01:34:00.000Shelly, 9-11, do you believe 19 guys in a cave could have NORAD stand down and tell public officials not to fly?
01:34:10.000of things happen and then we learn that the so-called hijackers were really trained at US military bases and were really government agents that's all admitted I guess that's all just a coincidence right yeah it's a coincidence and you know it's people that you know when there's something going wrong with our government we have to have a disaster so we can get people's mind out of what's really wrong and try to blame on somebody else There's a big Republican memo that's gone out to the Republican Party leadership and it's been in the D.C.
01:34:38.000News and it said we need another terrorist attack or our entire program is going to fall apart.
01:34:44.000Exactly and it goes back to the mentality of our government now.
01:34:54.000They don't care about anybody or who gets hurt or what.
01:34:57.000And, you know, they use this operation to try to, um, and, you know, it's going to be another, another classic, uh, 9-11 that, you know, that's going to happen next, in the next six months.
01:35:08.000Every time you get on this show, what you say turns out coming true.
01:35:11.000I hope you're wrong, Selly, but a lot of people are saying what you're saying, that elements of the government are going to stage an even bigger attack to try to put the kibosh on all the things that are happening where they're being exposed.
01:35:23.000So, you know, it's going to happen, and I think a good place would be an Ivy League university, where it's going to hurt a lot of the young kids and get the generation to hate.
01:35:36.000and join forces with our government to fight against the our enemy oh shelly don't give them ideas you know and that's where it's gonna hit the the businessman a whole bunch of people that are educated you know and they have to use it because we have now most of the students are waking up They've been putting out reports.
01:35:56.000The Global has been putting out public reports going, we've lost the young people.
01:36:00.000And now, right now, at the University of Texas at Penn American in Edinburgh, they've got the CIA now, in campus, lecturing on foreign policy.
01:36:10.000No, you ought to go to UT or Texas A&M.
01:36:13.000They have been totally taken over, but it's backfiring.
01:36:17.000Every time the CIA comes to campus at the university out there, I grab 300 people to go out there and we protest and we show them pictures of all the atrocities they did and the CIA guys can't believe that I'm not there with a sign and and with my Vietnam shirt on and telling them that this is what the CIA really does and a lot of the students weren't aware of what what it was they know that getting a job with the government government's got good benefits and good retirement, you know, the whole nine yards.
01:36:46.000No, you're being recruited into the mafia.
01:36:48.000Oh, exactly, and that's what you're doing.
01:37:16.000So that's what's going to happen to these young kids, that they're going to be brainwashed and taken into Langley and being trained to do all kinds.
01:37:24.000And they think that it's patriotic to do that.
01:37:26.000They think like I did, you know, that I, you know, I would give my life for my government, you know.
01:37:31.000Was there a moment when you finally, I mean, was it an incremental awakening when you were down in Latin America after you'd been in Vietnam and a police detective and all these other things?
01:37:39.000When you're down in Latin America, was there like a moment when you woke up at 3 a.m.
01:37:42.000in a sweat going, oh my gosh, I'm involved in evil stuff or when, I mean, or was it incremental?
01:37:48.000It was in 1987, specifically September of 1987, when they grabbed two young Mexican girls, their father, and three Colombians.
01:37:58.000And when they started torturing them and killing them, I says, You know, this is not what the war on drugs is supposed to be.
01:38:04.000You know, we're out here killing people, innocent people that, you know, some of them are innocent, some are not, but it's still, we shouldn't be the judge and the executioners.
01:38:14.000And that's when I realized, you know what?
01:38:47.000My website address is powderburns.org.
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01:38:58.000Folks, you want to know the truth, or you know a police officer, a police detective in your area, this is from one of their peers, and in many cases, senior to them, very high level in all of this, witnessing it.
01:39:09.000Some of the new stuff you've got up on your website today is the passports of the people that were murdered, and then you've got photos of them living, and then photos of them when they're about to be killed, and you've got photos of them when they are killed.
01:39:22.000And photos coming into the country by the CIA that were taken in Guatemala.
01:39:27.000As a matter of fact, I had a Guatemalan reporter named Claudia that just called me and emailed me and they're doing a big story on the CIA and the DEA's murders in Central America.
01:39:38.000And right now, folks, right now, those photos are up there right now.
01:39:42.000They're up there right now and I'll be able to label them who they are.
01:39:46.000And ironically enough, a few months ago, the families of these people that were murdered are emailing me asking me, you know, how did my father die?
01:39:56.000And by label them, we just convinced Sally to put these up last night.
01:40:00.000His webmaster put them up this morning.
01:40:03.000And literally before he came in here on air, I had to drag him away an hour ago from one of my computers where he was talking to his webmaster, emailing him, you know, what names to put on what's.
01:40:16.000So later this afternoon, the names of the people should be there.
01:40:20.000I mean, obviously their names are there when you see their passports, but labels there on who specifically was being killed.
01:43:00.000Well, the government knows what's going on.
01:43:02.000I mean, the Solicitor General got up there, what was it, 1998 or was it 1997, and said, yeah, the government brings in the drugs and it's at the highest level.
01:43:49.000It's like Skull and Bones was openly founded by the Russell Trust, which was the British East India branch in the US, for all legal laudanum or opium, which is then also used for heroin in America.
01:44:01.000It was actually these big drug families who went and lobbied to make these drugs illegal in the 20s and 30s because they were losing their monopoly.
01:44:09.000Other people were importing the drugs legally, so they went, lobbied to make it illegal.
01:44:15.000They then would sick them on their competition, and then their legal laudanum goes from $1 a bottle to $100 a bottle.
01:44:22.000And that was $100 a bottle back in the 20s, folks.
01:44:25.000So by making their own product illegal and then controlling the black market, they jacked the price up just astronomically.
01:44:32.000Then cocaine starts getting more popular.
01:44:34.000Of course, it was in Coca-Cola back at that same time.
01:44:36.000Then Coke starts getting shipped in and getting popular, so they make it illegal to then go after their competition again.
01:44:42.000And then when your kid gets caught using it, they give a mandatory sentencing of 10 years, they put your child in a private prison that can openly be linked to the very big banks that are actually running the drugs and controlling the cartels, so now your child works as a slave They're in the very facility that's owned by the drug dealing family.
01:45:03.000And then they also use the drug war to go after any of their competition that tries to ship it in without paying them their cut and being certified.
01:45:24.000Listen, would you rather a heroin head have to break in five houses a day to feed their habit or be able to go get it for free?
01:45:30.000from the local government and then not break in your home to steal everything you've got and then, oops, your ten-year-old's there when you're not and so the heroin head kills your daughter.
01:45:40.000Again, the drug war drives crime and the national statistics are out.
01:45:45.000Twelve years ago We had a certain level of heroin and cocaine.
01:46:36.000Then another division, and we can link all these, the same parent companies that own the private prisons, own the spray planes that spray the other cartels' crops that they're in competition with, and then they also then have out of the same airport their other team shipping out the drugs from their other plantations.
01:48:15.000In militarized, you know, we're seeing these senators and congressmen in Texas asking for the military to go down into the border.
01:48:23.000So, you know, you're going to see police officers and Humvees driving down the Rio Grande Valley and eating at Burger King or, you know... And by the way, that's not to stop illegal aliens.
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01:52:49.000They railed against the crowd Another ragtag band Declaring independence
01:53:12.000Sully's going to ride shotgun with us with our guest that's coming up in the next hour from England.
01:53:26.000Right now let's hurry back to your phone calls.
01:53:28.000Let's go ahead and speak with Elias in Michigan.
01:53:32.000You're on the air with Sully Costello.
01:53:40.000I've been a critical observer of the political scene since 1950, when I was 18, and especially with Central and South America.
01:53:50.000Are you willing to name the names of the murderers, for instance, of, say, Bishop Romero and others, the actual names, personal names of these people that did this thing, so they can be brought to justice?
01:54:04.000He knows who the commanders of those death squads were.
01:55:22.000I just wanted to point out a couple of things.
01:55:24.000First of all, I've got powderburns.org linked to the Watchdog Group on my website.
01:55:28.000I wanted to make a couple of important points.
01:55:30.000I think this is important for all the listeners.
01:55:35.000Mr. Casello is saying is true and it's also, most of what he's saying is also confirmed through John Kerry's Senate report, the Contra report that he did during this time and I think that's important for everybody to know that a lot of the things that he was saying has been confirmed in John Kerry's Senate report back in that time and of course the CIA are the largest drug runners in the world and I wanted to point out, he mentioned something about Laredo
01:56:04.000And of course, I think another important point would be Juarez, Mexico, which is right below El Paso.
01:56:09.000Juarez is one of the largest cities in Mexico as far as a border town goes.
01:56:17.000uh... comparable to the information that he provided on Laredo.
01:56:21.000Well, I want people to realize the numbers.
01:56:23.000Eight hundred dead on the US-Mexico side, both sides, just in the Texas region last year alone.
01:56:47.000And a lot of them, you know, the DEA and McAllen will not acknowledge the fact that these people are informants.
01:56:54.000And that's why you find them with tags on them after they kill them with the name of Soprano, which means a snitch.
01:57:01.000And also, Mr. Costello, I wanted to ask you, there was reports that Barry Seal was found, when he was found dead, Barry Seal, that he had George Bush's phone number in his pocket.
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01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000Well, Phillip Sands is joining us in about eight minutes.
01:58:11.000Celica Stillo, former high-level DEA agent, will be riding shotgun with us.
01:58:17.000We'll be getting into more government-sponsored terrorism.
01:58:21.000This time they wanted to try to goad Saddam into pulling something on the eve of the war to try to get public support, but they were unsuccessful.
01:58:27.000Big news from England on the fake WMD claims and all of it with our guest coming up in a few minutes.
01:58:33.000We're talking to Celica Stillo, author of Powder Burns.
01:58:41.000We're going to talk to Jeff, to Will and Dr. Deagle and others.
01:58:44.000But, Sully, we've already talked about so much, but this story is so big, though there's a lot we haven't covered.
01:58:49.000Any other key points about your book or about the government drug dealing that you witnessed that the listeners should be aware of?
01:58:56.000Well, no, basically it's really all I got.
01:59:00.000But there are other books and there are other people coming out now that are implicating the government in drug trafficking.
01:59:07.000How many agents, I mean ballpark, because I've seen, there's probably 30 or 40 I've seen in places like GQ that would have five or six different ones in it saying they saw the drugs coming off planes in Miami or drugs in Texas.
01:59:20.000I mean how many agents in FBI, CIA, DEA, sheriff departments have gone public about government sponsored drug dealing?
01:59:27.000Well they're several, like Michael Levine and other people, but Basically what's going on is the fact that I started telling people while I was an agent and I wasn't scared of losing my job and most of these people that are now have their own promoters and everything, you know, waited until they retired.
01:59:50.000What about people who were on the fence?
01:59:53.000I mean, do they say to you, yeah, silly, I'm, you know, you're brave, I wish I could do what you've done, but I just can't do it, I'm afraid, or what do they say to you?
01:59:59.000Well, they say they have a mortgage to pay, they got kids, they got us out of college, and so forth.
02:00:03.000So I got a mortgage to pay, it doesn't matter if our government's gutting little kids to blame it on their enemies, it doesn't matter if our government's bringing in smack so people can overdose, I just gotta go along with it.
02:00:13.000Exactly, and you know, it was so sad because all these people that joined to work for the DEA and kept quiet about it, Not only did they become rich, they were in it for the money.
02:01:06.000I'd be interested in investigating this if you think it's within the realm of possibility that some of that... Well, I mean, they use national security to cover the drug deal, and they always have, but just because there's some weird airport going in doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be bringing in narcotics there.
02:01:20.000Just because of where Virginia is, I mean, most of it comes into Houston, comes into L.A., comes into... Sally, do you agree with that statement, or is there a lot of smack coming in on the East Coast?
02:01:30.000I remember when China White was coming into San Francisco, our government would not admit that there was a China White epidemic in San Francisco.
02:01:39.000And I was one of the very few agents that was able to buy China White from the Chinese down in San Francisco to prove that it's been there all along, going back to the French Connection.
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02:07:10.000But they were trying to get Saddam to shoot at a UN plane and then tell the world that a UN plane had been shot at, you know, fly the spy plane low with UN colors on it.
02:07:20.000But I think that's dwarfed in these documents that have come out now with this professor and also Barrister who practices law there with the Prime Minister's wife there at the same court.
02:07:30.000It's a very, very high level in all of this.
02:07:33.000I think what's even bigger is Bush in here, and we even have the quotes from the minutes of the meeting with Tony Blair, their Prime Minister, saying we can stage WMD fines, and quote, have a defector tell us about the WMDs.
02:07:46.000I mean, this makes the Drowning Street memo look like child's play.
02:07:50.000Joining us is Philippe I'm delighted to be with you.
02:07:53.000I was in your fine city just in November.
02:07:56.000He works in the same office, in the same court as the Prime Minister's wife.
02:07:59.000He's also a professor there of law and legal studies there in London as well.
02:08:06.000And we are very honored to have Professor Sands joining us today, also Barrister Sands.
02:08:16.000I was in your fine city just in November.
02:08:18.000I had terrific hospitality, and I was very well looked after.
02:08:21.000Well, we're proud of Austin, but I also was in London a few months ago, and enjoy your hospitality as well, so Well, they're two great cities.
02:08:29.000And of course they're bonded now by our two great leaders, so to speak.
02:08:44.000He's shredded the laws, that's the thesis of my book, and proclaimed that America can do whatever it wants.
02:08:49.000But of course, you know Alex, the thing is, America has a great history and a great reputation.
02:08:54.000America's done more than any country in the world.
02:08:56.000To put in place a rules-based system and all we're trying to do is get the US and the US President to re-engage with America's traditional commitment to rules.
02:09:07.000Well, I agree with you, and of course, I should also add, you are an author.
02:09:10.000Tell us about your new book, where you drop these memos and these bombshell documents on the population.
02:09:16.000The book originally came out a year ago.
02:09:18.000It told the whole story of the road to war, and I've come out with a new edition.
02:09:21.000It's published today, in fact, Lawless World, and the new chapter in it includes material of a conversation between George W. Bush and Tony Blair in the White House on the 31st of January 2003.
02:09:36.000This material has never been made public before, and it confirms that by that date, the US President had decided to go to war, whatever happened at the UN, and he was supported by the British Prime Minister.
02:09:48.000But more interestingly, it basically reveals that they had no evidence of their own about weapons of mass destruction, and so desperate were they that they had to begin to have a conversation about basically provoking Saddam by taking US spy planes Painting them in UN colours, and when Saddam shot at them, they would be able to say he was in breach of his obligations.
02:10:14.000That's provocation, I think, isn't it?
02:10:16.000It is, and as if a gunner shooting at a plane at 50,000 feet can tell if it's a UN plane to begin with.
02:10:23.000I mean, that shows the Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction-solution, Professor.
02:10:28.000It indeed shows the Hegelian... It shows the Hegelian dialectic, Alex, and it shows how bloody desperate they were.
02:10:35.000They didn't have anything in their back pockets and they were reduced to these types of actions.
02:10:39.000I do reveal another bit of information that your listeners may be interested in.
02:10:43.000I reveal another memo between the British Foreign Secretary, he's a great mate of Condoleezza Rice's, his name is Jack Straw, and he writes to the British Prime Minister in the first week of January 2003 and he says, hey, I've just got off the phone with Colin Powell and guess what?
02:10:58.000He thinks we shouldn't go to war unless we get a UN resolution.
02:11:04.000It's just so amazing, and then on top of it, I'm reading quotes here by Bush, and again, you practice in the highest courts in the land, even with the Prime Minister's wife, as a high-level barrister, and so you have these contacts to get these documents, and I'm reading here, as of the last articles I saw, it's not even being denied, Well, I think you've put your finger on the spot.
02:11:23.000Prime Minister's office that this is coming out.
02:11:25.000Is this good news that more and more people inside the government are going to be blowing the whistle and hopefully sinking this neocon empire move?
02:11:36.000Well, I think you've put your finger on the spot.
02:11:38.000I mean, what's happening is that as President Bush's power fades away, as Tony Blair's power fades away, people are beginning to speak out.
02:11:46.000They're beginning to release documents.
02:11:47.000They're beginning to recognize that the tide has turned.
02:11:50.000That's the big change that has happened.
02:11:53.000There's a lot more material that's going to come out, and it's not going to make a pretty picture.
02:11:57.000And the legacy for these two gentlemen is a legacy of war.
02:12:02.000Of illegality, and I go further in my book, it's a legacy of criminality.
02:12:06.000Oh, I agree with you, sir, and I think in ten years the textbooks are going to have Tony Blair and Bush being, you know, in there akin to Pinochets.
02:12:15.000I think they're going to be known as far worse than a Richard Nixon.
02:12:18.000Well, Alex, you've taken the words out of my mouth, because I end my book by saying that when these guys are out of office, they better not be taking their summer holidays in Club Mediterranean in Azerbaijan, because they would face Pinochet-style proceeding.
02:12:33.000I haven't read the book yet, but I actually have an online bookstore.
02:13:03.000Well, you know, that is really exciting to see more and more of these documents coming out.
02:13:09.000I mean, this is just akin, though, to the Downing Street memo.
02:13:12.000Then we have the other memos with Bush talking about bombing TV stations in allied countries.
02:13:17.000I mean, do you think these guys... I mean, I know Tony Blair's smart.
02:13:20.000Do you think Bush has just actually gone insane?
02:13:23.000Well, I couldn't possibly comment on his mental well-being, but here's a thought for you.
02:13:26.000I actually think George W. Bush may be smarter than Tony Blair, because in this weird way, George W. Bush actually had Tony Blair wrapped around his finger.
02:13:36.000The amazing thing about this memo of the meeting of the 31st, is it's not a meeting of two equals.
02:13:41.000It's a meeting in which plainly George W. Bush is in control, and his little English Prime Minister is sitting with him, basically saying, Uh, you know, I'm solidly with you, Mr. President.
02:13:51.000In fact, there are quotes here where he's saying whatever you say!
02:14:08.000I think Bush comes out of this, you know, the guy speaks straight, says his views, and I think he's not to be underestimated.
02:14:15.000I think our own British Prime Minister, who you all think has got the gift of the gab and is wonderful and smart, actually It doesn't come out of this so well.
02:14:23.000Bush is cunning like a big garbage rat is cunning.
02:14:28.000So I totally agree with you that he's cunning and vicious and sneaky, but at the same time I think his arrogance does make him stupid at a certain level.
02:14:35.000I think there's all of those things, but the main thing that these documents show is that he's incompetent.
02:14:41.000Because one of the most delicious quotations that I've put in, which you probably got in front of you also, is the President tells the Prime Minister there isn't going to be an insurgency.
02:14:51.000There's going to be no conflict between the different religious groups.
02:15:28.000We ran that country a hundred years ago.
02:15:31.000We know what it's like, and all the advice Blair got was, if you go down this route, you are into a quagmire, and he ignored it.
02:15:39.000The funny thing is, the exact thing that happened in the 20s, with the British hunkered down in the very green zone, being attacked, is now happening.
02:15:58.000We've been there before, nothing new, we've learned nothing from history.
02:16:01.000Now the real bombshell here is that also at the meeting, Bush has the quote here that we can have a fake, let me just find the actual quote, I'll do it after the break, we can have a fake defector come and say he saw the WMDs.
02:16:17.000So this has Bush saying that we're going to stay to WMDs.
02:16:23.000I'm not sure where you get the word fake from.
02:16:24.000I mean, it talks about, it talks about two things.
02:16:26.000It basically says we can put these spy planes up and when he shoots them down we can say he's in breach.
02:16:31.000But it also says we could try to get a defector out.
02:16:33.000And there's a third thing that he says, we might come back to that after the break, the possibility that Saddam could be assassinated could not be excluded.
02:16:43.000It says, quote, this is Bush, It was also possible that a defector could be brought out who would give a public presentation about Saddam's WMDs, and there was also a small possibility that Saddam would be assassinated.
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02:22:59.000I mean, there were dozens of cases where it's a bread bakery and then they say it's a biological laboratory or where they say for two weeks, look, these are plants.
02:23:37.000Bear in mind, the documents that I've uncovered date to the 31st of January 2003.
02:23:42.000Your astute listeners will be aware that just five days later, on the 5th of February 2003, Colin Powell was due to go off to the Security Council and give a presentation about all the evidence they had about WMD.
02:23:56.000And of course, it turns out there was nothing there.
02:23:59.000But more to the point, why are these two gentlemen, Mr. Bush, Mr. Blair, sitting in the White House, Talking about all these provocations, if they know they had decent evidence.
02:24:07.000The point is, it tends to confirm they didn't have the evidence that they thought they had, and they knew it.
02:24:13.000And that's a real problem politically.
02:24:16.000But they're not stopping Professor Sands, they're just moving on with new lies for old, same lies for old, saying we've got to attack Iran.
02:24:25.000ABC News had the headline yesterday, Iran Nuke Test, and then it said that at a proving ground an explosion went off, and it was clearly non-nuclear, but they just had the headline, Nuke Test, or Atomic Test.
02:25:11.000I think that statistically British population reads more and is more in the news.
02:25:16.000I'm sad to say Americans for industrialized countries are the worst now about being informed on basic, even non-entertainment trivia.
02:25:25.000The general public serve here in this country doesn't even know which end is up.
02:25:32.000Well, I mean, it has turned, because all the jellyfish that are drooling in the corner don't even really matter in the final equation.
02:25:38.000The thinking people in America, conservative, liberal, it doesn't matter, are totally freaked out right now.
02:25:43.000I mean, every day, Bush gets, in your books about this, Bush gets up on TV and says, if you don't pass the Patriot Act, I'll just keep enforcing it.
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02:26:14.000Frankly, we haven't had a lot of tyranny in this country, and we weren't right across the channel from Nazi Germany, and I just think we've been so isolated that people... It's like when humans go into areas where, say, sheep have never seen humans.
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02:31:33.000There's a history to show that our government has been involved in all kinds of atrocities going back to the history of our government.
02:31:40.000And we'll continue to do that unless we do something about it and put a stop to it.
02:31:44.000And every evil that we have fought is because people did stand up.
02:31:46.000We've got a few minutes left with Professor Phillip Sands, who's written the new book, Lawless World, second edition.
02:31:54.000It's the major headlines in the U.K. right now because in it, Bush is basically telling Blair what to do.
02:32:01.000And just recapping for new listeners that just joined us.
02:32:04.000And he's in there saying we can paint up planes, spy planes like U.N. planes, try to get Saddam to shoot them down, and then claim he attacked the U.N. as a reason to invade.
02:32:19.000We're talking about that the last hour.
02:32:21.000And then now they're also talking here about having informants come out and claim they saw WMDs.
02:32:27.000Professor, I know Sully's got one or two questions for you, but before he asks those and then we let you go, any other key points you'd like to make, Professor, who, again, is one of the highest level barristers in England and even works in the same court as the prime minister's wife, and he came into the possession of these documents. is one of the highest level barristers in England and Any other key points you'd like to make?
02:32:47.000Well, I think we've touched on all the main issues, and I think the main thing is now we've got to get the message out, we've got to get this material around, we've got to get people focusing on it, because basically, we've all been duped.
02:32:56.000We have a Prime Minister and a President, Who basically told us, as we call it in the Eastern of London, Porky Pies!
02:33:03.000And those porcupines have led us into a situation in the Middle East, in Iraq, from which we need to extricate ourselves, and we've got to do so quickly.
02:33:11.000So the sooner people cotton on to what's going on here, the better.
02:33:29.000How they always try to up it, it always gets bigger?
02:33:32.000Well, as you've seen it now, you know, they're taking it to different levels now, and it's higher levels, and people are still not reacting.
02:33:41.000They're seeing it, and they're in denial, and that's the major problem, and they're arrogant about what they're doing.
02:34:04.000Yeah, what were the ramifications about you releasing those records?
02:34:09.000Well, personally, I've had no ramifications at all.
02:34:12.000I've got a tremendous amount of support in this country, in Britain, and people have been calling me all day long, saying, good on you, well done, and the government is not denying anything.
02:34:22.000The ramifications politically, we don't know what they're going to be yet, because all of this has just happened today.
02:34:27.000We're literally in the first 12 hours of this happening.
02:34:30.000Now, I mean, I first reported on this right at the end of the transmission of the broadcast yesterday.
02:34:35.000Normally, if something isn't true, they would respond within minutes or hours.
02:34:41.000The fact that they've been sitting here, sitting on this for a while, you know, 24 hours... Well, Alex, it's even better than that.
02:34:49.000We've had a response from the White House, and we've had a response from Number 10 Downing Street, and neither of them have denied the existence of this document.
02:34:56.000Neither of them have denied the content of the document.
02:34:58.000But I guess they're going to maybe claim somebody needs to be arrested for releasing classified documents.
02:35:03.000I love it how in the past they've gone after people that release these documents, don't deny that this stuff's going on, but the real crimes are going on, but then they will try to then say that somebody's a traitor for releasing documents.
02:35:18.000Well, I mean, there are proceedings going on in the UK on other people who've been shipping around documents, and I suppose the possibility can't be excluded that they may come after me, but I suspect they'll be concerned about what else is out there, and if I were them, I'd want to try to kick the story into touch.
02:35:34.000Get rid of it, and that's not done by prosecuting people.
02:35:37.000They may prosecute, they may bring proceedings... That's what Shelley said last hour about himself, Shelley.
02:35:42.000Professor, do you think there is another smoking gun in there that they're concerned about?
02:35:47.000Well, I don't happen to think there's going to be the perfect smoking gun that actually proves definitively that the whole thing was a plot and a lie and so on and so forth.
02:35:54.000But I think the compilation of all the documents, the Downing Street Memo, we like to call this one the White House Meeting Memo.
02:36:01.000The White House Meeting Memo shows definitively, I think, they knew there was no evidence and they were reduced to plotting these types of shenanigans of sending spy planes up.
02:36:12.000Well, Shelly was saying, you know, he's released a lot of documents about government drug trafficking, and that's what he said last hour.
02:36:17.000They like to ignore him, even though you've been on national TV quite a few times.
02:36:21.000Predominantly, they like to ignore him because when they attack him, it just exposes them even more.
02:36:40.000The following day I went back and they had all been reclassified as top secret but they weren't aware of what was it that I was able to obtain and those are the same files that Bush does not want to release.
02:37:03.000As a barrister, high-level prosecuting, litigating lawyer there in England, working in the biggest courts of the land, most powerful courts in the land, working in and around all these powerful people, what's the sense?
02:37:39.000I don't know whether it's going to take off.
02:37:41.000And, of course, we do know that the Democrats in the House of Representatives in the U.S. in Washington are looking very carefully at the question of impeachment.
02:38:01.000What would happen in the event that in the mid-term Congressional elections there's a change of control of the House?
02:38:09.000And I think in those circumstances the mood would change very dramatically.
02:38:14.000I mean, I personally believe there is enough material that's now there in the public domain That indicates a strong basis that we were purposely misled about the information that they had.
02:38:27.000And in some people's eyes, that is the basis for impeachment.
02:38:32.000But on the other side of that token, say there is an investigation, Professor.
02:38:38.000Say they are found guilty of whatever they're doing.
02:38:41.000At the end of the day, Will not the President of the United States be pardoned by the incoming President?
02:38:53.000You've got a better sense than I do about the political lay of the land.
02:38:57.000But the crucial issue is not that they end up in court.
02:39:02.000Or in prison, but that in the court of public opinion, they'd be remembered for their responsibility.
02:39:07.000So you're saying they'll be convicted and totally discredited in the court of public opinion?
02:39:11.000I think that's already happened, and Bush is saying, hey, I've still got two and a half years left, and I'll just do whatever I want, so c'est la vie, nanny nanny boo boo, and he's just in our face, and it's just really scary.
02:39:23.000Well, I want to thank you for joining us and spending this time with us, Professor, and if any new developments come out, I would love to be able to have you back on the broadcast.
02:39:31.000I've sent you an email with all my details.
02:40:11.000I mean, how are you going to explain it?
02:40:13.000I remember in Salvador, we had a special ranger unit that came in from Fort Benning, Georgia.
02:40:19.000And they were in there to run the ambush tactics on the guerrillas up there.
02:40:24.000They themselves got, they got ambushed.
02:40:26.000And how did our government cover it up?
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02:40:38.000So they could say that they were killed in a train accident.
02:40:59.000And you know, what's sad about it, we all know that in Vietnam, 58,000 soldiers were killed.
02:41:05.000But the real number is that Three times that number of the veterans that came back committed suicide.
02:41:13.000Also, here's an example, from 1962 with operations until 1968, excuse me, 1967, not one casualty was admitted with all the quote advisors.
02:41:24.000Then once the war really got kicked off, then they later admitted them.
02:41:27.000So it's not the first time they've done this, and I think it was like 10,000 dead troops in that period of time, but it was just kept quiet.
02:41:34.000I mean, they kept 10,000 dead troops quiet.
02:41:39.000So people think it's a stretch today that they're doing it, but now they don't just lie about it, they just statistically manipulate it and go, we don't count you if you die on the C-130 going to Rammstein.
02:41:50.000And that's the problem the veterans are having when they're coming back here trying to get treatment on it.
02:41:55.000They're saying it's not service connected.
02:41:57.000Oh, I saw that in the news where they will just not fill out the right forms and people will even have legs blown off.
02:42:01.000They're going, no, you don't get treatment.
02:42:20.000The body armor is so good that when an artillery shell goes off next to you, you live, but the shockwave is turning their organs into jelly, and these guys are going to be invalids for their whole lives.
02:42:31.000Better off, in some cases, I've heard the troops say, dead than, you know, quad amputees.
02:42:37.000Have you seen these guys with both arms and legs blown off?
02:42:40.000I just saw a couple of real pretty girls from Georgia, 19 years old, and, you know, they focus on the face, and then as they pull back, they got no arms and no legs.
02:42:50.000So it's kind of sad, yet they're going to get their GI Bill paid to go to college and do what?
02:42:58.000I've been in office my max I'm in there and you see these I've seen you know double dose amputees both their legs blown off black guys white guys and I walk over they got the short haircuts they looked all freaked out and I go did you just get back from Iraq yeah yeah and they're still their legs are wrapped They aren't even healed yet, and the government's giving them so little money that they have to be working.
02:43:25.000I commend them working at CompUSA or OfficeMax or wherever.
02:43:28.000I commend those places hiring them, but they shouldn't have to work when their wounds haven't even healed.
02:44:27.000Because they know still about a third of the people broke down.
02:44:31.000Now they're using them up like tires that you run until they're bald and then they blow out.
02:44:35.000I mean, how do you make somebody be in hardcore, intense combat Some of the Army Rangers I was reading a report, they'll do upwards of 14 raids a day.
02:44:45.000If they try to make a city sweeper cop, and then a detective, if they made cops do 14 raids a day, how long would those cops survive until they fell apart?
02:45:06.000It's like you're waiting for the bullet to come in with your name on it and at the end of the day you just don't care anymore.
02:45:14.000Now to explain post-traumatic stress because you were also obviously in hardcore combat as a sergeant leading teams even in Cambodia as you said in the first hour.
02:45:23.000To explain this I haven't experienced it myself but I've talked to a lot of folks.
02:45:39.000Cops get it too and so forth, but I'm suffering from a three compound version of PTSD because I had it in Vietnam and I got it in a That's a police officer and I got it with the DEA when we were training those people down in South America and people were getting whacked all the time.
02:45:56.000And it's simple, it doesn't matter how tough you are.
02:45:58.000You know what, BTS, he can never ever be cured but he can be controlled under medication and it's very hard to be on medication and try to survive in this world.
02:46:10.000But I mean, but to explain what it does physically, you cannot stay continually for more than a year in a life and death situation every day without it screwing you up.
02:46:18.000We're not meant to always be going at 110% and our military knew no more than a year.
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02:52:44.000We can all debate exactly how it was done, but his is really scholarly.
02:52:47.000I'm not tooting my own horn, but I study this more than anybody, and Webster's on the same page and has learned even more, so I commend him.
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02:52:57.000We'll take these two final calls in case we run out of time.
02:53:00.000Sully, I want to thank you for defending this country and my family right now against... I mean, I want to thank you for defending my family against these criminals.
02:53:25.000Scott Glee Air Force Base in Peterson.
02:53:26.000We had C-130s going out and I have friends on the inside that actually saw the equipment going over and the dope coming back.
02:53:34.000And one of them in fact, because he freaked out after he saw this, he actually committed suicide.
02:53:38.000The other is a lot of our vets are coming back and one of them was, I had a number of my friends that were over there, some of them patients and in the reserve forces and they came back and committed suicide.
02:53:48.000Next comment is about... Well, some of these people aren't committing suicide, but I'm sorry, go ahead.
02:53:52.000They're being suicided, especially if they start talking about stuff like the C-130s.
02:53:57.000But it's a regular occurrence that that's happening.
02:54:00.000Second thing is, this program today is probably one of the most important you've ever done, because there's a quarter trillion dollars a year that comes into America through the illegal laundering of money through the state department that's accurate isn't it showing absolutely that's yeah it's over 250 million
02:54:17.000I think this is the most important program you've done maybe in a year Alex because if people don't get the connection between Bush and Blair between the drugs and everything else and the the real issue is our Congress and Senate are supposed to rule over the spending of money and we have to leave but I mean you brought up people getting killed a hundred percent of the people who are Who was that army officer, the colonel who got shot in the back of the head?
02:55:00.000You are definitely doing a lot of work, but everyone listening can do the same thing, and it's really simple, and I have just a couple points to remember when doing it.
02:55:09.000Basically, in fighting these people, they are relentless, so everyone here has to be active and relentless, and the first step is really awareness.
02:55:16.000And to me, what led me into what opened the floodgates was two things.
02:55:19.000One, 9-11 and the facts that are just wrong, and the fact that the media is complicit.
02:55:25.000And once you realize those two facts and the, like, importance of them, the whole world opens up and changes.
02:55:31.000So all you've got to do is make copies on a Xerox of, you know, links that you know.
02:55:49.000Celica Stillo, I'll tell you, two and a half hours blasted past with you.
02:55:53.000It sure did, and it was fun, and it was great to be here.
02:55:55.000Well, I'll tell you, I'm going to have some event in the future here in Austin with some really key people coming into town, and I hope you'll be part of it.
02:56:06.000Well, thank you for coming into the new studio with us, and I really consider you a friend of the show and want to commend you, my brother, for all you've done.