In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Jones takes a look at the latest on the latest in the latest news regarding the CIA spying on the American people, including a new report from Paul Blumberg, and a report from the New York Times and the Washington Post, detailing the extent of the government spying on millions of Americans.
00:00:30.000The, uh, what, second Tuesday or first Tuesday of every month?
00:00:33.000He'll be joining us, and of course he heads up whatreallyhappened.com, Michael Rivero, coming up in the third hour.
00:00:42.000We're going to have open phones for the first two hours and cover a ton of news that's come out in the last day, and some of the news that I never had time to properly detail yesterday.
00:00:54.000Headline, Russian Member of Parliament says US to attack Iran in late March.
00:01:02.000And this guy has been pretty accurate in the past.
00:01:07.000PSYOP aimed at giving EU support for war.
00:01:11.000So at the very time that we began documenting the fact that this has all the earmarks of PSYOP, these pictures of the Prophet Muhammad and all of the rage that's being generated, A top Russian parliamentary leader has told one of the country's largest radio stations that an attack on Iran is inevitable and that it will occur on March 28th.
00:01:34.000The leader of the Liberal Democrats, Vladimir Zirinovsky, also believes that the Muslim riots were orchestrated by the U.S.
00:01:43.000to garner European backing for the military strike.
00:01:48.000And we know that the literal Sparks that caused the riots that the epicenter, of course, being Paris in November of last year, also was a shy-up.
00:02:01.000And the Muslims just fall into the trap beautifully, like a hornet's nest.
00:02:09.000Alberto Gonzalez was before the Senate yesterday, lying as usual, a congenital liar, and defending the Justice Department's actions and then claiming that the President is basically above the law.
00:02:34.000Jimmy Carter, the former president, is saying the eavesdropping is illegal.
00:02:39.000And a very important report that Paul Watson put together yesterday.
00:02:44.000Doomsday for the internet as we know it.
00:02:47.000And I will cover this in detail in the first hour.
00:02:51.000And another story yesterday that I mentioned but didn't cover in enough Enough to tell is group airs ad on 24, the TV show with Kiefer hoping to influence debate on Patriot Act.
00:03:07.000We talk about PSYOPs, we talk about mind control.
00:03:11.000This is one of the best examples I've seen, so we'll cover that and get into some of the new developments with fake reporters, CIA reporters on the payroll, and Pentagon propaganda news.
00:03:24.000Now that ties in with the coming, we'll already hear in many cases, censorship of the Internet.
00:03:30.000Meanwhile, Colin Powell, former Chief of Staff, has said more than he's ever said before, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson About the staging of the war, the provocation, all of it, so we'll get into that.
00:03:44.000And the Washington Post, back to the spying full circle, reveals surveillance program has spied on thousands, quote, few of them terrorists.
00:03:53.000Well, right now all that's happening is the precedent is being set to just condition us to accept the fact that we're being spied on.
00:04:05.000Always spied on in modern history in the last few decades with these very echelon systems.
00:04:10.000Now they're just having to break the ice with some of the smaller examples or less egregious examples hoping to condition the public to go along with it.
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00:08:26.000I want to thank my radio producer who helps set up all my great guests.
00:08:30.000Well, frankly, my wife works on it and so does Kevin.
00:08:33.000Ryan Slick Eisen, Paul Joseph Watson, Steve Watson, Shirley Gant, and of course Dwayne Cooch, and so many others that make what we do here possible.
00:08:58.000In fact, the more people listen to the broadcast, the more people visit the websites InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com are two biggest sites.
00:09:06.000And it is just an incredible responsibility, and I want you to know that I know that I don't do a perfect job, and I have a lot of room to grow in the way we present the information, in the way we cover the facts, and the guests that we have on, and my incipient cutting people off, and my incipient cutting people off, and all of it.
00:09:26.000I want you to know that is not an ego issue.
00:09:28.000That is the fact that my brain begins racing with the information.
00:11:32.000Oh, by the way, we had Dan Marvin, the Army Special Forces Colonel on a few weeks ago, right before he went into court with a big lawsuit where he was being sued by some Special Forces soldiers.
00:11:45.000who were under his command and of course he won the libel suit.
00:11:54.000government tried to go in and kill him and his team when they refused to engage in some activity that he said was very immoral.
00:12:02.000He was on the broadcast of course about torturing people and the special forces training the troops how to torture but all that's been declassified years ago.
00:12:10.000They just tried to sue him to shut him up And so Dangerous Dan, by the way, last week won that lawsuit.
00:12:22.000So that's another issue that I can talk about for hours as well, just the institutionalization of torture and why torture doesn't work and why it's bad and why the bad guys torture.
00:12:35.000I mean, Joseph Mengele did it, the Nazis did it, the Soviets did it, the North Vietnamese did it to our troops.
00:12:41.000It's wrong when the North Koreans torture, it's wrong when we do it.
00:12:45.000So it really is an information overload And I have to remember that none of us are perfect, and we can't cover it all, but I'm not tooting my own horn.
00:12:58.000It's very exciting to know that there are, I don't know, probably 50 websites plus that are what you'd call truth-seeking or patriot websites, or thousands, but 50 or more That are bigger than some of the biggest magazines and newspapers in the country.
00:13:20.000It is, in the rating services that are very scientific, a lot more scientific than Arbitron or Nielsen with TV and Radio, that PrisonPlanet.com is about twice the size in visitors as MichaelMoore.com.
00:13:34.000It is as big as the Dallas Morning News online news site.
00:13:40.000And the Dallas Morning News admits that their website is much bigger than their physical paper circulation.
00:13:47.000I mean, one of my websites is bigger online than what the sixth biggest paper for circulation in the country.
00:13:56.000Now, of course, they make hundreds of millions of dollars, and we don't even gross anywhere near a million dollars a year, and with nine employees and all the expenses, we hardly even make a profit.
00:14:06.000But it is exciting to know that we are having an effect.
00:14:18.000In Las Vegas, and it's all over the place, where callers call in and go, yeah, Alex, you're right about the New World Order, but there's nothing we can do about it, and nobody cares, and nobody listens to me, and nobody's gonna get involved, and we're just gonna lose, and it's all over, and then they start bashing other patriots, saying they're not doing a good enough job.
00:14:56.000And I know this, they're going to run all over us and the whooping we're going to get is going to be a lot worse if we do lay down to them.
00:15:03.000If we at least fight these bullies, they're going to move on down the road and pick somebody else who's easier.
00:15:09.000Why do you think there are slaves in China, slaves in Cuba, to a great extent still slaves in Russia, and a hundred plus other countries that are tyrannical?
00:15:18.000Because the populations have never had freedom.
00:15:20.000They've never thrown off the yoke of tyranny.
00:15:23.000Freedom is an incredibly rare and precious commodity.
00:15:27.000And it is only guaranteed by blood, sweat, and tears, and dedication.
00:15:37.000You owe that nice car and that nice house if that's all you value.
00:15:40.000You owe the ball games and the big highways and the shopping malls and your bank account to people who broke their backs on the frontiers carving out a country.
00:15:50.000To people who stood up against regulators and taxers and who ran them out on a rail, literally.
00:15:58.000We owe everything to our forefathers who weren't perfect, but at least had a stiff upper lip and chin up, and were ready to fight and ready to not be slaves.
00:16:11.000Nothing valuable comes free or comes easy.
00:16:15.000The only reason African Americans, black Americans, have any freedom today is because they were willing to go out in the streets and fight for it.
00:16:22.000They were going The only way you're ever going to have any security or any liberty or any freedom is fighting for it.
00:16:33.000And the pen is mightier than the sword.
00:16:35.000I don't mean go out there and physically fight, though that may be needed in the future and certainly always is needed to defend yourself and is always authorized and moral and good and decent.
00:16:46.000But I just want to remind Americans that this isn't just a self-gratification wonderland where you're simply born on this earth to satisfy your five senses, or your six senses if you believe in that, and that at the end of your life the person that wins has the most toys.
00:17:04.000The person that wins at the end of their life has a big, happy, successful family.
00:17:10.000And by success, I mean moral, upright, straight and strong, good grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
00:17:18.000If I can have that, that is better than being given the whole world.
00:17:22.000It would be to be a great-grandfather someday, to live that long, and to be able to experience that.
00:17:30.000I'm already so blessed with my wonderful family life and my wonderful children, and the liberties and freedoms that are still left in this country, and that's why I so viciously fight for it.
00:17:43.000I know there's evil people, evil elites, who've openly written and stated and schemed to enslave you and your family and my family.
00:17:53.000And me and mine aren't going down without a fight.
00:17:56.000And just because you don't know, as a new listener, that there is a war on for your mind, and that you are under attack, and that you are being enslaved, and that you are going into bondage, believe me, this is what I do!
00:18:14.000So many people go, Alex, you know, your intensity, I hear you all over talk radio, I hear you on other shows, I hear you in the middle of the night, I hear you on, you know, the next day, early in the morning, I mean, how do you work so hard?
00:18:45.000And that we've got a good chance of really being enslaved and tens of millions more people being killed.
00:18:50.000The globalists killed 200 million people in the last century.
00:18:55.000And they're setting up the 21st century to make that child's play, to make that pale insignificance.
00:19:00.000And I know in my heart, in my soul, and in my intellect, I know in my cerebral cortex, I know in my brain, that we're facing a very serious, grave threat.
00:19:11.000And its evils are manifest on a thousand fronts and ongoing right now.
00:19:16.000And if you think things are bad right now, this is all just the setup.
00:19:22.000An elite has announced that we're their slaves and they're going to do all these bad things to us and I'm standing up against it and trying to rally you to stand up against it and trying to get you to realize the threat.
00:19:32.000I'm just engaging in Paul Revere type activity from the valleys to the mountaintops, from the building tops to the church steeples.
00:19:41.000You know, we're out here on the front lines warning you.
00:19:45.000At the same time, engaging in the Info War, defeating legislation, getting good legislation passed, standing up for the family, private property rights, the Second Amendment.
00:19:55.000We are dedicated and we know we can win this war if you'll join us.
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00:24:46.000Mainstream media is not respected today, but I gotta say, compared to like the Statesman or the Houston Chronicle or the New York Times, there is so much in the Chicago Tribune.
00:24:55.000Let's go ahead and... I mean, you gotta give people their props when they're doing some good work.
00:25:01.000I mean, what other mainstream newspaper talks about the slave camps that the administration runs through Halliburton and Dyncourt?
00:25:06.000Let's go ahead and talk to Joe in Wisconsin.
00:25:32.000Listen, I told Paul Watson about two years ago on the phone, I said, hey, buddy, I said, you're working really hard, but I said, I want you to think about something when you're doing your work.
00:25:40.000I said, remember, if we don't win this, we're in this now.
00:26:06.000It's exactly the right answer because...
00:26:10.000No terrorist or group is responsible for what goes on in those corporate boardrooms.
00:26:15.000Well, they also tell us that it's free market.
00:26:17.000It is not free market when we're competing against millions of American prisoners working for 20 cents an hour on average, some even lower.
00:26:24.000Or in some cases the high is about 25 cents an hour, but the average is 20 cents an hour.
00:27:11.000Well, as a follow-up for those companies I just mentioned, what terrorists forced them to make such crummy products that nobody wants to buy them?
00:27:21.000And we have all of these other automakers coming in, food companies from other countries, and they're doing a smash-bang-up job.
00:27:29.000Why is it that they can pay their employees a decent wage comparable with their own CEO and they seem to make a profit and we just have to keep firing people?
00:27:42.000They don't have the environmental laws, they're not paying their people as much, so they can put more money into the actual quality, whereas here, they put out a piece of junk, and frankly, most of the parts to those American pieces of junk are being made in Mexico is the problem.
00:27:57.000And let's face it, the products from Mexico are not the quality of a Japanese product, or a Deutsch product, or even a South Korean product.
00:28:04.000Well, I'm just glad that the Super Bowl wasn't nuked because that would have been the perfect opportunity to just clamp down on everything.
00:28:11.000And like you said, coming up on the 28th, I'll be keeping my eyes open.
00:28:17.000We're going to go to Brian and come back and talk to Mark and others.
00:28:21.000Since you mentioned, let me just say this on the Super Bowl.
00:28:23.000I'm on record, what was it, last Monday and Tuesday saying I didn't think the Super Bowl would be nuked.
00:28:29.000And at the same time, they were having drills in Houston, drills in Detroit drills all over the place, and the government has said we will be hit with an A-bomb.
00:28:43.000They have prepared the propaganda, and so we have to take it seriously, but at the same time, you've got to be very suspect of anybody who comes out and says, I know it's going to happen, and here's the evidence, just to garner some hysterical listenership to themselves.
00:29:03.000Back with North Carolina drill they were having when they fired burns, the number three general in all the military, number three in the chain of command underneath the Joint Chiefs of Staff, at that point it got really serious and we just said we need to look at this drill and that was four or five months ago.
00:29:24.000All I know is if there's ever a mushroom cloud when you wake up in the morning in some American city, that is an attack on the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and that is not, with all the evidence we've got, coming from some person in a cave.
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00:34:23.000Their foundational event to try to build their police state and turn America into an engine of global empire after they've scared us into being their slaves.
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00:38:44.000Alright, let's go back to your calls and into the news.
00:38:53.000I'm a decade-long listener calling in with a update on the Building 7 cover-up.
00:38:58.000As you know, the collapse of World Trade Center Building No.
00:39:02.0007 was so clearly a result of controlled demolition That the 9-11 conspirators have had to engage in some fancy footwork, I guess you could call it, to try and cover it up.
00:39:12.000They've given four different reasons, and every time one of their reasons is proven to be a total fabrication, they then move on to another.
00:39:20.000And there may be a new one, but let me guess.
00:39:22.000The fourth one is, the North Tower fell and hit it, but publicly, not even the debris field hit it.
00:39:28.000It's admitted the tower didn't fall on it.
00:39:30.000It did fall on other buildings that didn't collapse.
00:39:32.000Is that their latest one you're talking about?
00:39:36.000This one was on the History Channel about 10 or 15 days ago on a show called Modern Marvels and the show was entitled Engineering Disasters and the lead story was at Building 7 and they had a architectural engineer or a structural engineer on who said, first of all he said, well normally in a collapse of this nature we would examine the debris But then a voiceover comes on and says...
00:40:06.000But all the debris was immediately removed and mixed with buildings one and two and shipped away.
00:40:12.000Yeah, shipped to China under machine gun guard.
00:40:16.000And they put GPS trackers on, not on each truck, on each piece of steel, on each beam.
00:40:23.000And then one guy pulled over to get a sub sandwich for 15 minutes and was fired.
00:40:28.000And they talked about criminally charging him.
00:40:31.000I mean, they had guys with machine guns guarding him.
00:40:35.000Well, what they said was that they needed to remove this debris in order to expedite the rescue and recovery operations.
00:40:44.000Now, the problem with that was... Is it those stopped a weekend and they put the body parts in the New York landfill publicly?
00:40:51.000Well, with Building 7, though, what this documentary explicitly stated three minutes earlier, So there was no need for this expedited recovery and rescue operation?
00:41:03.000No, listen, all their lies are totally mindless.
00:41:06.000The Keene Report, the 9-11 Commission Report, openly says that Tower 1 and 2 were built hollow, with a new design back in the 60s, and that they were completely hollow and there were no supports.
00:41:23.000But then I have Nahuru Namasaki, reports he wrote, and I have also the building engineer, we even have him on tape.
00:41:29.000It was built to take aircraft impacts.
00:41:32.000Two large jet impacts simultaneously per building, and it had the biggest central columns, 47 of them, ever used in a building up until that time.
00:41:43.000And there's only two other buildings now, just built in the last five years, that have bigger support columns.
00:41:51.000They focus on the latticework on the outside that has nothing to do with it.
00:41:55.000And then they openly say that there were no central columns.
00:41:59.000When I have a documentary called New York by PBS, like a ten-part series, I just so happen to, because I'm a big documentary watcher, to have bought it before 9-11, and it shows them, and they say how it had the biggest columns ever, the 47, and it shows them.
00:42:15.000So we put video of that original film footage of the 60s of them building it in my film, Martial Law.
00:42:22.000But no, no, they know the average American Again, you bring up such a key point, we could talk for hours about this, but we've got to move on, but I want you to be able to finish up here in a second.
00:42:32.000It's just like the head of the NSA last week saying at the National Press Club, the Fourth Amendment does not talk about any type of probable cause.
00:42:54.000Alright, well the lies get thicker here.
00:42:55.000Then the structural engineer comes on and says something new that I didn't know.
00:42:59.000But he said the only way this Building 7 could have collapsed was if the debris from the other buildings collapsed had blown away all of the fire retardant in Building 7.
00:43:11.000So apparently the structural skeleton of that building had fire retardant.
00:43:18.000And so somehow they're saying That the collapse of 1 and 2 blew away not only all the fire retardant on the structural skeleton of Building 7, but also destroyed the sprinkler system, which would have put out any fire.
00:43:30.000Sir, you've got to tape that next time it's on the air, that stuff, over and over again.
00:44:43.000There are photos from the big south face, there are photos from the larger north face, and then from the sides on the east and west there in lower Manhattan.
00:45:48.000And yes, I've heard that, and that is their fourth lie.
00:45:51.000The last three they've had to admit weren't true.
00:45:53.000First it was that there was a fuel oil container that blew up and did it, and then it was something else that happened, and then it was that the fire made the steel melt, and then it was something else, and on and on and on.
00:46:04.000And yes, now they say, this is what FEMA now says, that the North Tower fell onto it and knocked out the main support column.
00:49:06.000You see, I have all this news here, all these calls here, the caller brought up such an incredibly important point, and I had to spend five minutes on it.
00:49:27.000I work at this hotel, and the delivery man comes in.
00:49:31.000I started making small talk with him, and he brought up 9-11.
00:49:35.000And he started talking about his son and how smart his son was, and how he wanted to test for an AWAC in the Air Force, AWAC, and that he was so smart he tested for a JSTAR position.
00:49:49.000And he said, look it up on the internet, it's like a spy plane, 747 spy plane.
00:49:54.000And he told me how this plane, you know, could see you five states away and through concrete and all that.
00:49:58.000Yeah, it's a command plane that commands a bunch of the other C-130s and others that are flying around.
00:50:04.000So his son was on a JSTAR in Afghanistan, according to this man, when we went in there, October, I believe, or November, and they had bin Laden pinpointed.
00:50:16.000And I believe I've heard other people say this on your show, so I thought I'd tell you.
00:50:19.000Yeah, I've had a bunch of official CIA and colonels on there.
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00:54:14.000George Bush and his daddy openly have relationships with the Bin Laden family and with some of Bin Laden himself.
00:54:21.000It doesn't matter if that's been in the four-star telegram long before 9-11.
00:54:24.000It doesn't matter if it's been in the Houston Chronicle.
00:54:26.000It doesn't matter if it's been in the Houston Observer.
00:54:28.000The general public doesn't know about it, so they just laugh at that.
00:54:32.000You see, they know that if they just do incredibly bold things right out in front of you, and then just tell you you're an idiot, that most people will buy it.
00:54:53.000Rubin, you were finishing up with a story.
00:54:54.000Yeah, it's just that they let bin Laden escape in Afghanistan.
00:54:59.000And the second thing I want to tell you, yesterday you were talking about tell signs.
00:55:03.000When you see somebody interviewed and they lied to you, they give you a little hand signal or whatever.
00:55:10.000There's something my sister pointed out to me that there was research done that if you look to your left when someone asks you a question, you're creating it.
00:55:31.000Woolsey, the former CIA guy, debate McGovern on a PBS show one time.
00:55:37.000Woolsey continuously looks to his left as he's just slamming McGovern.
00:55:44.000Yeah, one side of your brain is associated, it's not 100%, but it's a good, you know, police learn these techniques, and they are generally accurate, they're kind of a guide, they're not 100%, but one side of your brain creates and manufactures its fiction, the other side accesses information, And people learn this in poker.
00:57:14.000He'll try to look real authoritative and kind of bug his eyes out, and he'll stick both hands out in front of him, kind of that mafia, hey, what do you want?
00:57:25.000The last thing I wanted to bring up is that I'm just sick to death of Arlen Spector.
00:57:37.000He's the biggest phony and he's been in there forever and he's all over the news all the time.
00:57:45.000Somebody out there really, really needs to expose him.
00:57:54.000This Gonzales and Spector, it just gets worse and worse every day with these guys.
00:58:01.000Well, I agree, and Gonzales gets up and says, the President has the authority under the Constitution to do it, knowing no one will go look at the Constitution.
00:58:08.000It says the complete opposite, that's why you swear an oath.
00:58:11.000Now they don't just say it's constitutional, they say the Constitution demands they do it.
00:58:21.000And I've got comments on Gonzalez's testimony and what they're doing.
00:58:26.000We'll come back, talk to Jason, David, Caleb and others.
00:58:31.000And then about 10-15 minutes to the next hour, I'm going to spend 20 minutes or so covering a bunch of news and we'll go back into your calls.
00:58:36.000And then Michael Rivera, the journalist, joins us.
00:58:41.000Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:16.000Well, that first hour of Blue Bias, we're now into the second hour.
00:59:20.000I'm Alex Jones, your host, where we defend liberty and resist tyranny, Monday through Friday, 11 to 2 Central, back from 9 to midnight Central Standard Time.
00:59:29.000We're going to continue with your phone calls, and then I'm going to get into doomsday for the internet as we know it.
00:59:35.000As they move to regulate and restrict and tax the internet, and go after your free speech.
00:59:39.000I want to spend some time on something I didn't cover enough yesterday.
00:59:42.000Group Air's ad on 24, hoping to influence debate on Patriot Act, where fiction meets reality, just mass brainwashing.
00:59:49.000And I want to get into Gonzales and his lying testimony yesterday.
00:59:54.000And this new report out, mirroring our analysis, Here it is!
00:59:59.000A Russian Member of Parliament says U.S.
01:01:30.000Well, first off, it's very important that you note that the first thing they say is that the task before them is a modest one, meaning that the decision isn't very important.
01:01:42.000And then, when Thomas Jay dissents, he says, there is an explorable expansion from commerce in the Commerce Clause Yeah, they say that the federal government, through the Commerce Clause that was to be limited to trade, is all-encompassing down to the local level.
01:02:05.000Yeah, they say that the federal government, through the Commerce Clause, that was to be limited to trade is all-encompassing down to the local level.
01:02:16.000I know the federal government's been claiming that power in a bunch of court decisions, so...
01:02:20.000Well, I mean, basically, like all those local governments passed all the acts to limit the Patriot Act, and this case just turns that on its ear.
01:02:35.000Well, you know, all laws that violate the Constitution are null and void.
01:02:41.000Marbury v. Madison, dozens and dozens of others say the same thing.
01:02:45.000So the Supreme Court can say we're all slaves tomorrow and have to wear purple hats and lick their boots, but that's just not the case.
01:02:53.000Anything that's criminal and against the God's laws or the common sense laws, organic law, whatever you want to call it, is a fraud.
01:03:08.000But the Supreme Court gives a unique, like, official title to everything.
01:03:13.000I understand, but they don't have any more dictatorial power than George Bush or the Congress.
01:03:18.000If they're not executing the Constitution and the simple Bill of Rights through the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, which sets the whole debate's flavor, then it's a fraud!
01:03:46.000I'm well aware of what they do with the Commerce Clause, and it's another fabrication.
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01:07:41.000But this is what I'm going to do right now.
01:07:42.000I'm just going to blitz through your calls no matter how good they are.
01:07:45.000I'm just going to give each person about a minute and a half and move on to the next person.
01:07:48.000I'm going to try to not comment too much on what you have to say unless it's a question because I want to get these calls in the bank here and then move on.
01:08:31.000I was curious to know, it looks to me, after living in Orlando for a while and experiencing a lot of tollbooths, it looks to me like they're putting in tollbooths as we speak.
01:08:40.000Well, there's no looks to you about it.
01:08:43.000We had one of our reporters Kevin Smith on the ground at 8 o'clock this morning on MOFAC and on 290.
01:08:52.000And they are stringing the cable, not just for more cameras, not just for license plate reading cameras, because we did research last week on the company, but for the toll road transponder readers.
01:09:05.000And so you just got the $64 million question correct.
01:09:10.000We have defeated much of the legislation.
01:09:13.00090 plus percent of Texans are against it.
01:10:12.000Listen, they're still putting it in, despite the fact that this is how it works.
01:10:17.000Jeff Cantoff, the producer of The Simple Truth for Bob Dacey, calls me last year and says, I just sent you an email, have you seen the legislation to put transponders In all inspection stickers.
01:11:32.000Well, my question is, too, I just had my car re-inspected, and I don't see a transponder on there.
01:11:38.000When are they planning on putting that in?
01:11:41.000They are putting test transponders, it said, in two million tags, not in the inspection sticker.
01:11:49.000And so that started, so they're doing it piecemeal, quote, through a test.
01:11:54.000And then it's in the industry publications that we posted on the website.
01:11:58.000It was in Business Wire, I believe, a few months ago.
01:12:01.000And so they're piecemeal implementing.
01:12:03.000And if they do pass the law, by the way, if you disable the chip, or if it accidentally doesn't work, then you'll spend a few years in prison.
01:12:28.000I hate to be one of those people who say that we get what we deserve, but it just seems like everyone only gets worked up over the things we're told to get worked up.
01:12:36.000I mean, front page news the other day, Lance Armstrong broke up with Sheryl Crow.
01:12:55.000I can have the National Banking Association documents from 1898, and I can sell a book that has copies of it published in it, where they say, we're going to buy ball teams, we're going to buy the newspapers, the American people read too much.
01:13:12.000Back when we were a free country, do you know what people did for entertainment?
01:13:16.000They went and had huge arguments at the local stump.
01:13:19.000We're at the local bread box, and everyone ran around knowing everything about politics, everything about legislation, beating each other with hickory sticks, shooting each other, assaulting each other, armed groups of citizens going to the Texas capitol and throwing out the northern governors twice and running around foaming at the mouth.
01:13:37.000Looks like here in Austin they're going to tow our sidewalks, but meanwhile over here Oh, I saw Sandra Bullock down on Congress the other day.
01:13:53.000But I mean, personally, I'd rather hang out with a guy that mows my yard and go fishing in a canoe with him on Lake Austin than hang around with Sandra Bullock.
01:14:01.000Well, you'll drive around the neighborhood here in town around 6 in the evening and no one sits on the front porch anymore.
01:14:32.000I'm going to move on to them quickly, but I've just got to comment on this for a few minutes.
01:14:39.000You know, I kind of got laughed at on Sunday a little bit, kind of a giggle, which is fine, and I got invited to the Super Bowl party, you know, locally.
01:14:48.000And it is a good excuse to get together with friends, and I'm not saying in and of itself the Super Bowl is bad.
01:14:53.000I mean, I've been to professional football games, I've been to professional baseball games, I like it as much as the next person, I played football, I ran track, I did all that stuff.
01:15:33.000And when this country was more free, the heroes were inventors.
01:15:37.000The young children in farmhouses everywhere stayed up by candlelight reading books about explorers to the North and South Pole.
01:15:47.000And young men and women, when they were 13 years old, would start their own businesses.
01:15:53.000And people could trust their children to let them go get on the train and go visit family 500 miles away for the summer and could totally trust them.
01:16:02.000And they knew how to skin a buck and run a trot line and plant a corn field.
01:16:07.000And they were studying books written by astronomers.
01:16:46.000We've got to give them something in the Circus Maximus.
01:16:49.000And then they will spend all their time obsessed with that.
01:16:53.000So the elite openly say they're using football and sports and the total worship of it To undermine our society and to take your normal male inclination to be a warrior for your family and your country and your freedoms and to misdirect it into something that doesn't matter.
01:17:12.000I mean, no one's going to care in 50 years or in 10 years about these football players that are such big stars today.
01:17:18.000Your child, 99% of the time, isn't going to be maybe 1 out of 10,000.
01:17:23.000Not 99% of the time, but maybe 1 out of 10,000 He's going to be a professional football player, a professional basketball player, or baseball player.
01:17:32.000And great, if you've got the skill and that's what you're into, go do it!
01:17:36.000But my heroes are Andrew Jackson and George Washington.
01:17:43.000My heroes are people like Colonel Craig Roberts, who exposes the New World Order, or Celica Stillo, or Cynthia McKinney, or all these people, or Ron Paul.
01:17:53.000My heroes are the people who stand up for human liberty and freedom.
01:17:58.000And you see, I wouldn't talk about how much I hate football now.
01:18:41.000People don't enjoy each other anymore and have communities.
01:18:46.000You drive through neighborhoods and every window is glowing blue from the television set.
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01:23:04.000I bet if you had a chance to hang out with a Hollywood crowd, I bet you would.
01:23:09.000Believe me, folks, the new little Hollywood is Austin, Texas.
01:23:14.000And I have a lot of friends, and I could sit here and mention their names, and you know, especially if you pay attention to this stuff, you know who they are.
01:23:52.000I mean, I've been invited out to Hollywood so many times with just huge names, which is encouraging to me, because they know all about the New World Order.
01:24:03.000They don't think I'm saying they're bad or I don't want their friendship.
01:24:06.000It's just that I've got serious things to do here.
01:24:09.000While everybody was watching the Super Bowl, I'm here at the office.
01:24:12.000We have the back door open and we're sitting here editing, working on a new film, watching all this footage.
01:24:19.000In fact, watching the NSA chief lie, I got the original footage and I was editing it together for the film, and the next door there's a Super Bowl party, and they're screaming, they're yelling, they're freaking out.
01:24:31.000You'd think they'd just gotten the Bill of Rights back.
01:24:33.000You'd think that they'd just shut down the southern border.
01:24:35.000You'd think they'd just gotten the Second Amendment back.
01:24:37.000You'd think that they'd just released The 200,000 sex slaves that a major U.S.
01:24:50.000They were screaming bloody murder as if they'd had some tribal victory over a stupid football game!
01:24:57.000And listen, if our country was together and was just a little bit corrupt and we were back on track and this stuff wasn't going on, folks, I'd probably buy a plane ticket and go see the Super Bowl!
01:25:07.000But if your house is on fire, you don't go, oh, I'll put it out later, I'm going to go play poker right now.
01:25:15.000You put the fire out, you get your priorities straight, and then Then you can go to the Rose Bowl.
01:25:22.000Then you can run around screaming, watching football.
01:25:25.000It's just in every society, when they're in massive decline, the people have their priorities scrambled.
01:25:32.000This is a major indices, an indicator.
01:25:36.000It's data showing just another... We have crime and corruption inside, a record debt at now above depression-era levels of 1933, Every real indicator shows we're in deep trouble.
01:25:53.000We have barbarians flooding in to the borders.
01:25:55.000We're just like Rome, and inside everybody's mesmerized by ball games.
01:26:17.000How am I... And again, I remember ten years ago people calling in, why do you get so upset about this?
01:26:22.000You know, I'm weird because I get upset about total tyranny.
01:26:27.000I'm bad because I freak out and yell and scream sometimes about the fact that our government's building FEMA camps for us.
01:26:35.000I freak out that I go shoot video of troops training to take our guns and put us in camps.
01:26:40.000I'm bad because I yell and scream about that.
01:26:43.000But if I go paint my face up, burn orange, And put a ridiculous longhorn hat on, you know, with big floppy horns and I go scream at the ball game like a psychopath and cuss and yell.
01:26:58.000It's totally normal and I'm looked at as a good American.
01:27:06.000We have a spot in our brains, our hearts, our souls that is there to get angry, to get motivated, to scream, to yell, to bare our teeth for a reason.
01:27:16.000And it's there when the enemy tribe is coming over the hill to take you prisoners, to kill the men, and to take the women and children.
01:27:25.000That instinct is there when the big cave bear, twice the size of a grizzly bear, comes charging into your cave, and you're a little band of 25 people, and only 10 males, and you've got, with little primitive spears, which our ancestors did, you've got to fight off that lion.
01:27:47.000Take the Zulus who will go out and hunt lions.
01:27:50.000Only three or four guys will kill a lion.
01:27:53.000Now the rest of the tribe goes with them, the rest of the warriors, and they beat drums, and they herd it in, and they all get around it with these long 20-foot spears, and they kill that lion.
01:28:01.000And believe me, those men are focused.
01:28:05.000Those men are there as part of a ritualistic hunt that goes back thousands of years ago to keep the lions at bay from having them come into the village and eat the women and children.
01:28:15.000Now all of that skill to kill a lion is now put on the football field to run touchdowns.
01:28:22.000Instead of these warriors using all of that skill to fight an evil government.
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01:32:22.000And that's what people are obsessed with.
01:32:24.000We need to get back to being... But I guess when you're in a more precarious position of survival, as our forefathers, our forebearers were, that it forces you to be focused on real issues.
01:32:34.000I guess when we're decadent and fat and happy, and I'm one of those, that you don't get focused on real issues.
01:32:40.000And we've got to get back to that point.
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01:36:35.000I mean, I know the football game is important.
01:36:38.000Senator Bullock's important in worshipping the sitcoms and watching the different TV shows is very important, but this is frankly a lot more important.
01:37:07.000Um, early the 23rd in the morning, like, it was going on 5 o'clock, and there was this strange noise where, I didn't know what it was, I didn't have my husband to work, but then he went to work, and it was fine, but then... Okay, but what happened?
01:37:23.000Try to get closer to your telephone for me, I'm having trouble hearing you.
01:37:27.000Well, the whole scenario is, I bring my baby to the hospital when he gets sick, and then the hospital makes up a lie to cover their butt, because when the ambulance got there, they didn't check my baby, And when I get to the hospital, it takes hours to help my baby with breathing.
01:37:41.000And to cover their butt, they call CPS on me and now they won't let me see my other three kids or my baby.
01:37:47.000And I guess you went to the city hospital?
01:38:01.000Ma'am, have you ever had any run-ins with them before?
01:38:04.000Um, yeah, well, my kids go into Seton Health Pediatrics and because I don't want my kids to have shots, told me that my kid couldn't go there no more and now they're pissed off about it.
01:38:14.000Oh yeah, no, we had to get a state law passed in Texas, because there is no law that you have to be vaccinated, but they were taking... They were saying that, and I told them there was no law.
01:38:23.000When you go to the private, wealthy hospitals, about half the parents don't vaccinate, and you tell them you don't want to vaccinate, and they go, Absolutely, of course, we understand.
01:38:32.000But then if you're working class, blue collar, they actually profile you and go, this person can't defend themselves, and those city hospitals actually get bounties, and they're snatching children, in my experience, every day, sometimes multiple children.
01:38:48.000And they will then auction them off, basically.
01:38:51.000The hospital even ends up getting money out of it.
01:38:54.000They get hundreds of thousands of dollars for a, quote, healthy white baby.
01:38:57.000Also, and they get also a lot of money for other children.
01:39:01.000It's just the fact they get more for white children.
01:39:06.000Well, I'm just bringing up the fact here that it's admitted that in adoption companies, I'm just stating the fact, that for a healthy white child, they can get $300,000 or more.
01:39:18.000And so there's a real premium on those children.
01:39:49.000You took it to the hospital, and now because of that they're saying... Did they intimidate you into signing any papers?
01:39:57.000They made me sign something for my mother-in-law Well, see, they tell you that, and then you read it all carefully, because what you'll do is you'll remand custody over to them, then they will sublet the child out to your mother-in-law who really doesn't have custody.
01:40:17.000The next phase is, and I don't want to scare you, but normally, then they'll try to intimidate you to sign more.
01:40:22.000Now, since when in a free country are you forced to sign things?
01:40:26.000Number two, there's a federal bounty on children.
01:40:29.000The feds pay tens of thousands of dollars to the CPS for every child they grab by hook or crook and their child is five times more likely to be abused in their custody so they have no right to be on their high horse and I've seen this story over and over again and right now I can't I remember all the different names of the good groups we've interviewed over the years on this subject that know all the loopholes and the strategy of how to help you get your children back.
01:40:59.000I have seen police actually grab a woman by the arm, and then say, sign it or you're going to jail, under total color of law.
01:41:08.000They're not intending to take her to jail.
01:41:09.000She acquiesces, they sign, they snatch the child from her breast, take the child away, and the child is then adopted out, name changed, and these people are all going to hell.
01:43:56.000And then you can come back whenever you've got a pen and then you can give them that, okay?
01:44:03.000And I pray to God that God will protect your children and you'll get them back and you're doing the right thing not vaccinating them and you're doing the right thing trying to raise them yourself and just you're trying to be a normal woman and raise your young and suckle them so you're evil.
01:44:18.000I mean, the CPS training manual, the Calhoun Reader, says the families of disease to be eradicated.
01:44:51.000It's the equivalent of, I'm in a little ship cruising through a sea, and there's sinking and burning ships all around me, and there are thousands of people all in the water around me, and I might be in the water tomorrow, and they're all reaching their hands out, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, help me, and all these crimes are being committed against them, and I have to... If I tried to respond to all the calls, or even help these people, I couldn't do it.
01:46:33.000You'd think the New York Times or the New York Post, it's been in all of them, are like actually giving you a good report or telling you about the evil.
01:46:40.000And we could take from the report you're killing these kids.
01:46:43.000And I'm not trying to scare this mother, it's just the truth.
01:47:02.000They found that they've had blacks institutionalized and enslaved for so long, they can basically, statistically do whatever they want to them, these poor people.
01:47:26.000They take healthy kids, and there are cases in the newspaper where they come to a black mother and they go, sign over your 10-year-old to us and acquiesce to experimental drug testing on your 10-year-old, or we're going to take that 2-year-old.
01:47:39.000And the mother will sign the agreement and they take the ten-year-old and they murder them.
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01:53:31.000Several developments that are coming to the fore indicate a noticeable advance towards government-regulated, taxed and controlled system that spells doomsday for the Internet as we know it.
01:53:40.000And there are headlines in the Register and the Guardian and the Associated Press saying, end of the Internet.
01:53:45.000There was another headline like that two days ago.
01:53:49.000The first steps and a move to change the very email sent Have already been taken under the pretext of eliminating spam, Bill Gates and other industry chieftains have proposed internet users buy credit stamps which denote how many emails they will be able to send.
01:54:02.000This of course is the death knell for political newsletters and mailing lists.
01:54:06.000The New York Times reports that America Online and Yahoo, two of the world's largest providers of email accounts, are about to start using a system that gives preferential treatment to messages for companies that pay one-fourth of a cent to a penny each time they're delivered.
01:54:20.000These senators must Promise to contact only people who have agreed to receive her messages or risk being blocked entirely.
01:54:26.000And Declan McCullough, if you've seen that, wrote two weeks ago about how there's a law passed calling internet emails, people don't want harassment, you get prison time.
01:54:35.000The endgame is similar to China, whereby no website, even mildly critical, of the government will be authorized.
01:54:41.000And that's like MySpace, 38 million users, that Rupert Murdoch bought, now saying that it has programs that don't let you type certain things.
01:54:51.000The Pentagon admitted that they would engage in psychological warfare and cyber attacks on quote, enemy internet websites in an attempt to shut them down.
01:54:58.000The fact that the NSA surveillance program spied on 5,000 Americans tells us that the enemy is the alternative media and that it will be targeted for elimination.
01:55:08.000It's a long article, you ought to go read it, but there's so many facets to it.
01:55:13.000You notice in the hearings, and they act like they're mad at Bush for the NSA spying, they don't talk about the Army out spying on mainstream peace groups, or the military out spying on Second Amendment groups.
01:55:25.000That's all in major newspapers, but it never becomes, you know, really the big news.
01:55:28.000It's all the focus on Al-Qaeda phone calls.
01:55:32.000It's just the terrorist surveillance system.
01:55:35.000We just surveilled terrorists, but under the Patriot Act, Section 802, all misdemeanors are terrorism.
01:55:41.000See, they play word games with everything.
01:55:46.000And the report goes on in the military saying they'll influence our media with propaganda.
01:55:53.000Now Internet 2 is coming out where they're going to let the old Internet fail, not to upgrade the peering agreements, not even service the ones they have, to where it starts breaking down, and they say they're going to do this, and then forcing you on what they call Internet 2.
01:56:34.000And then yesterday I tried to detail this and was never able to, but when Michael Rivero comes on, I'm going to read part of the article and steer us into this because I want to talk about it.
01:56:44.000Because it admits in the Chicago Tribune that the maneuver comes at a time when American culture increasingly confuses the boundaries between fact and fiction and between politics and entertainment.
01:56:54.000That's why the government, the Republican Party basically is the government, bought ads to air during the TV show 24, mirroring the episode they were working together about, see how dangerous it is?
01:57:06.000We need the Patriot Act or the terrorists will get you with the nerve gas.
01:57:11.000And then the episode is where the Bill of Rights is holding up Jack Bauer.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000I've got an article here from CNN where the police have these big gumballs that shoot out of these guns with GPS tracker chips in them and talk about science fiction.
01:58:59.000Hey Alex, I just wanted to make a couple of points about some of the things you guys were talking about.
01:59:05.000Well, first of all, I think what I've experienced and what I've seen with Bush is whenever he's lying, you can tell when this murdering dictator is exactly what he is.
01:59:18.000Whenever he stutters or says something twice, that's when I found that basically you can tell when he's lying.
01:59:25.000Of course, I'm working on a couple of things right now.
01:59:27.000You know, I think I'm going to throw in some things, some content about the economic slaves that, you know, people just don't really... Alex, everybody needs to listen because the world is on a powder keg right now.
02:00:05.000Exactly, and another thing that I think is what, you know, like the Iraq War and some of the big things that they're trying to cover up is regarding the oil.
02:00:15.000You know, if any of these big oil companies, these executives in these oil companies will come out and tell the truth, and talk about the, you know, the way the, I think the United States uses around 18 million barrels of oil a day, and I think the world uses maybe a hundred, a hundred and eighty million, something like that, but the oil is being... We use 25 million barrels a day.
02:00:38.000Okay, well the oil is being depleted at a rate that it's completely out of control, and that's why You know, they wanted to go to Iraq and cap those oil wells over there.
02:00:48.000They're trying to save some of that oil for the third generation.
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02:06:15.000A top Russian parliamentary leader has told a national Russian radio station that an attack on Iran is inevitable and that it will occur on March 28th.
02:06:22.000I'm not saying that's going to happen, folks, but certainly they're getting ready for it.
02:06:25.000The juggernaut is rolling, as one headline said.
02:06:28.000The leader of the Liberal Democrats, Vladimir Zarovsky, who they love to attack, also believes that the Muslim riots were orchestrated by U.S.
02:06:35.000I would say elements of our government, to garner European backing for the military strike.
02:06:40.000Rhetoric has heeded significantly in the past week, with Donald Rumsfeld yesterday warning that a military option was on the table, echoing the comments of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who said the U.S.
02:06:52.000Also, Israeli Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert stated that Iran would, quote, pay a very high price if the Islamic Republic defiantly resumes full-scale uranium enrichment to build nuclear weapons.
02:07:04.000Uh, Zharovosky told the Russian radio station that the war is inevitable because the Americans want this war.
02:07:12.000And, uh, any country claiming and leading a position in the world will need to wage wars, otherwise it will simply not be able to retain its leading position.
02:07:19.000The date of the strike is already known.
02:07:21.000It is the election day in Israel, March 28th.
02:07:23.000It is also known how much the war will cost, he said.
02:07:28.000Commenting on the Muslim riots sweeping the Middle East and Europe, Zarevosky said that the publication of the offensive cartoons was a planned psyop on the part of the U.S.
02:07:38.000aimed at provoking a fight between Europe and the Islamic world.
02:07:42.000It will end with the European countries thinking and thanking the United States and paying and giving soldiers for the war.
02:07:48.000He continued, and folks, the flags being served up, well it's a real protest, it's hand-painted flags.
02:07:53.000Out in these little dirt villages all over the place, there's all these same-sized, brand-new, shipped-in flags for the, you know, day after the protest starts.
02:08:03.000And these Imams mail it out with cartoons that weren't even in there.
02:08:08.000Made up stuff, it's all these neocon papers that kept running it and saying we're... saying that we're going to defiantly get in your face and defiantly do all of this, you know, starting a fight.
02:08:26.000And there's clear evidence, it takes an hour to go into it, we're about to go to Michael Rivero, that the stuff in France that then spread back in November, that was clearly provocateur and it snowballs.
02:08:35.000The intelligence agency started going and then it gets bigger and bigger.
02:08:39.000It's a landslide, it's like a mockingbird.
02:08:41.000They started it, then other people parroted it.
02:08:43.000So of course there are Muslims running around screaming and burning things.
02:08:50.000And they're playing into the trap, but it's clear that it was started by intelligence agencies.
02:08:55.000Let's go to Michael Rivero, who's joining us to talk about this, and also the Gonzales hearings.
02:09:00.000We've got an audio clip coming up where Gonzales says that George Washington had electronic surveillance and surveilled us, and it's as American as George Washington, folks.
02:09:09.000So, if you're not for a police state, you're against George Washington.
02:09:12.000Michael, it's always great to have you here for your monthly visit.
02:09:15.000Thank you for having me on the show, Alex.
02:09:17.000You bet, and you've got WhatReallyHappened.com, we've got a big fat link to it, up on Infowars.com, but you just heard me going over what this Russian Member of Parliament is saying, mirroring analysis from Kurt Nemo, yourself, myself.
02:09:31.000Well, very obviously the United States has already decided they're going to go to war in Iran, much as they had decided for war in Iraq weeks or even months before it was announced to the public at large.
02:09:43.000The timing of the attack very clearly aligns with Iran's plan to open an oil bourse, which would trade Iran's oil in Euros.
02:09:52.000This, of course, would have a negative effect on the value of the dollar overseas, since it was no longer required to buy petroleum products.
02:09:59.000And this, of course, is one of the real issues behind this sudden decision to start invading Middle East countries left and right, because prior to the invasion of Iraq, Saddam Hussein started trying to negotiate to price the oil in the oil for food program based on euros rather than dollars and of course the US government sees this is a tremendous threat to our economy because without that demand for dollars to buy petroleum products the value of the dollar will fall against all other currencies.
02:10:31.000So very clearly there is a push to go on to war And this Russian individual definitely has it correct.
02:10:40.000There doesn't seem to be really any way to stop it.
02:10:43.000Well, let's go back to some now ancient history, though it's now just been revealed last week.
02:10:49.000I even said at the time when they were flying all those tornado fighter-bomber flights over targets that didn't matter but heavily defended, remember the quote, softening up, while they were negotiating with Saddam, they had a full-scale bombing campaign.
02:11:02.000Imagine they're bombing him, Saddam was laying there tanking it, not even shooting back.
02:11:07.000I mean that is amazing, but they openly said then they wanted him to shoot some of the plane down, so that's old news.
02:11:14.000Now we learn they wanted to paint up a bunch of US spy planes like UN planes, fly them low, get them shot down, get our pilots potentially killed, but they didn't even need that, they just went on to spy it.
02:11:26.000Bush also said in the new White House memo, and they're not denying it, this is admitted, that We're going to have a defector come out and say he saw WMD.
02:11:37.000So for anybody that wonders if they manufacture this stuff, Michael, you're an expert on the past provocateuring with Mosedeck and 53 with Iran, and they've done this so many other times with the Black Panthers and many others.
02:11:50.000Fill us in on how they love to stir stuff up.
02:11:53.000Well, it's called a false flag operation, and basically it's trying to create some trouble that you blame on the other individual.
02:12:01.000Certainly that story about the UN plane and contained in that same White House memo was the admission that Bush intended to attack Iraq even if no weapons of mass destruction were found, which of course is ultimately what happened.
02:12:17.000But this is nothing new for the government and it's kind of interesting, you were mentioning earlier, these very provocative cartoons that have appeared in the Danish newspapers and been echoed in Europe papers all over.
02:12:31.000They're very insulting to Muslims, and they've been put out there to stir up a public reaction, which has happened.
02:12:39.000I believe in their First Amendment right to do it, but there have always been cartoons of Muhammad.
02:12:44.000You can find hundreds of them, making fun of him.
02:12:46.000The West made a point of picking a fight about this, and to add to that, again, we know that these are neocon-based papers, and imagine what Christians would do when there's a sitcom You know, the book of Daniel, making fun of Jesus, or Jesus Christ, that particular, it was called Jesus Christ something, where Jesus Christ is a homosexual, and there were all the big protests.
02:13:12.000You know, Christians get mad at this type of stuff too.
02:13:14.000I'm not saying that they don't have the right to print it, it's just people act like it's weird that Muslims get mad about it.
02:13:20.000Well, what's very interesting, you know, you're talking about free speech, because apparently these same newspapers refuse to run similar cartoons depicting Jesus, unless... So very clearly there's a bias being shown here.
02:13:33.000But as I was watching this whole situation unfold, it reminded me of something that happened back in the 60s, at the height of the conflict over civil rights and the Vietnam War, and a disproportional number of black people being sent to serve on the front lines.
02:13:49.000And there was this group called the Black Panthers.
02:13:52.000Now, later on, they became very militant and very fearful.
02:13:55.000But when they started out, most people don't remember this, when the Black Panthers started out, their agenda was originally breakfasts for children in the ghettos and local control of the school curriculum.
02:14:06.000Now, these are, of course, very benign agendas, but they were considered very threatening to the government, which wanted to control the school agenda.
02:14:14.000to steer kids toward a pro-military choices as they got out of the educational system.
02:14:20.000So, the Black Panthers were starting to get some support, and the FBI put out this fake coloring book called the Black Panther Coloring Book, and it was spread all over.
02:14:33.000My household, which was like totally white, got one of these in the mail, and the news were blaming it all on the Black Panthers.
02:14:39.000And then in the 70s, when the COINTELPRO hearings took place, It was revealed that this whole comic book was a creation of the FBI to basically cause friction between the white and the black population.
02:14:51.000Now the government did the same thing with the militias.
02:14:54.000The militias started forming, had some good missions in the early 90s.
02:14:58.000The government demonized them, put provocateurs in to try to militarize them, to try to radicalize them.
02:15:05.000They want you running around in camo instead of running around in real urban camo, a suit and tie.
02:15:10.000They don't want you being mainstream, up front, taking over the system.
02:15:14.000They want to intimidate you, lie about you, get you to militarize, so then they can really demonize you and then treat you like a military group that they can then attack.
02:15:23.000And mostly what they want you to do is get you fighting amongst yourself so that you're not fighting them, which was the line behind the Black Panther coloring book.
02:15:31.000And now, of course, we have these cartoons which are creating all kinds of friction between Christians and Muslims.
02:15:38.000And the very first result, of course, is that Western people and Christians are less willing than ever to listen to legitimate grievances coming from the Islamic world about how they're being treated.
02:15:50.000So, that seems to be the first purpose behind these cartoons, is to prevent people from listening to each other, to keep up the friction, to keep up the hostilities and the anger, so that this communication can't happen.
02:16:03.000Well, it's meant to get Europe on board for the attack on Iran.
02:16:39.000And, you know, again, everyone's pushing for this invasion of Iran in March, so it certainly helps if they can get the Muslims, if they can trick the Muslims into behaving in a way that just seems adversarial and destroys any sympathy for the potential targets.
02:16:56.000And we saw a lot of the same thing in the run-up to the war, of the invasion of Iraq.
02:17:00.000Any way to demonize them, to make them seem less than human, to portray them all as terrorists, In order to justify what was essentially an economically motivated conquest.
02:17:10.000And now we know that the Pentagon was running PSYOPs with its Pentagon Office of Strategic Influence domestically and internationally.
02:17:17.000We know they premeditated, we have multiple memos from across the Atlantic and here in the U.S.
02:17:23.000They don't deny it, that they lied to us on purpose.
02:17:26.000And still, some people are going to believe this poison mother's milk that comes down from the government's propaganda ministries.
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02:21:45.000There's a video clip over the top of whatreallyhappened.com Of course, we will get a link over to it or get it posted on prisonplanet.com or infowars.com.
02:22:00.000And I got a chance to watch some of the Gonzales hearings yesterday, and here's my take on it.
02:22:05.000They know that we're waking up to spying, so they take the most minimized, little, that seems reasonable portion of a constellation of spying.
02:22:13.000You know, they admit the Army's watching gun groups, liberal groups, people handing out peanut butter and jelly sandwiches protesting Halliburton corruption, people protesting Enron, bike riding groups that want more rights for bike riders, you know, the CIA's or the NYPD.
02:22:42.000So Gonzales gets up and the inspector and all these other people go, oh, this is terrible what you've done.
02:22:46.000But then later they're going to try to pass an amendment, and I've looked at it, that actually kind of codifies it where it's partially okay.
02:22:53.000Because there's already laws that say it's wrong.
02:22:57.000And, uh, Michael Rivera's got a clip of Gonzales trying to say, well, this is as American as George Washington.
02:23:04.000Michael, why don't you set this clip up for us?
02:23:06.000Well, basically it's a clip that just came out of the hearings into the NSA spy scandal.
02:23:11.000And, uh, of course, uh, uh, Gonzales is trying to justify George Bush's, uh, spying on ordinary Americans without a warrant, without even going through the FISA court, which never turns down a warrant request anyway.
02:23:25.000but simply goes out and reads the email and scans the phone calls of any American that they simply decide to do.
02:23:32.000And Gonzalez made this ludicrous statement where he just listed all these American presidents and said they've all conducted electronic surveillance on Americans on a scale far greater than Bush has done.
02:23:43.000There was no such thing as electronic surveillance in George Washington's era.
02:25:18.000They always said... I mean, they'd be like if they found a serial killer with 25 bodies in the backyard and he said, well, I killed 25 before.
02:25:43.000People are mad about this spying, though.
02:25:45.000Do you think it's going to bring them down, or are they just going to use Iran as the next smokescreen upping the Ponzi scheme?
02:25:52.000I think that probably that Bush and his administration are thinking that by the time they get to March and they crank up the war in Iran, They'll be able to play the, you know, we're in the middle of a war, you can't annoy the President with these small little piddling things, and anybody who's trying to... And then the Iranians hit us with an A-bomb!
02:26:08.000After that point, everyone knew that the leader needed to be followed.
02:26:14.000I'm frankly surprised, I'm glad, but I'm also surprised that we didn't see a staged terror attack at the Super Bowl.
02:26:20.000Of course, we still have the rest of the Olympics to get through, but Bush and his people may just feel it's not necessary.
02:26:26.000They give the orders, the orders are followed, nobody's standing up to them.
02:26:29.000By the way, we have to take all this serious because on the eve of the 2004 election, the White House told U.S.
02:26:35.000News & World Report, we will be nuked before the election.
02:26:38.000They didn't say might, they said we will be.
02:26:41.000So that's why some people pay a lot of attention to this.
02:26:43.000Yeah, absolutely, and you know, I have a feeling it is a little troubling to see Americans kind of staying so silent when very obviously we're going through the same hoaxes and deceptions and lies that got us into Iraq.
02:26:57.000That State of the Union was almost identical to the one he gave on the eve of the first invasion.
02:27:03.000He did focus a little more on domestic policies, I think because at least among the public, the war has become a real election loser.
02:27:11.000But I think it's an indication of How out of control election fraud has become in this country, that Congress and the President don't seem all that concerned about the negative impact that a war in Iran is likely to have on the November elections.
02:27:25.000We'll be right back with Michael Rivero.
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02:31:03.000We see this in criminal enterprises and Ponzi schemes predominantly.
02:31:10.000That's a scam where you take people's investments in, you pay off the previous investors and then publicize how much money they made and how great the investment is.
02:31:19.000And you build up the pyramid scheme bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.
02:31:25.000And then you blow it out and leave town with a huge war chest of goodies.
02:31:36.000They leapfrog from criminal activity to criminal activity and then always smoke screen it with some even larger debate and then we have to focus on the new lies for the old.
02:31:46.000And by the end of it, we're living in a total police state.
02:31:48.000They are setting up a manifest tyranny They know you're waking up to it, that's why they're setting up the police state.
02:31:56.000And how many congressmen, like Ron Paul have we had on?
02:31:58.000We've had multiple congressmen on saying the same thing.
02:32:00.000How many former Reagan and Bush senior administration officials?
02:32:04.000Very conservative have we had on to say, we're going into martial law.
02:32:07.000Now we read about Halliburton building emergency FEMA camps, quote, for the illegal aliens and citizens during emergencies.
02:32:13.000These are camps, Halliburton and major newspapers running slave camps in Europe.
02:32:19.000It's so out of control, It's so horrible that I know a lot of people want to bury their heads in the sand.
02:32:25.000I hear ads all the time for bars or restaurants or sporting events that life's tough, the economy's not doing too well, just forget about it all and come have a good time.
02:32:37.000And that's okay if you get some R&R, rest and relaxation.
02:32:42.000All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, or at least a cranky boy.
02:32:46.000Believe me, I know that first and foremost, but if you're just constantly out, especially doing all these really decadent things, my day of blowing off steam is going out fishing or something, or for a hike.
02:33:32.000Specific solutions, you think, and then give me your prognosis for the short term and long term, because I do see an awakening happening, but the enemy has the momentum, they have the centralized spires of technological control, they control the parameters, the roads, the banks, the main systems that we kind of just react to, Are we going to be able to defeat this?
02:33:53.000And what will the world look like if the neocons really have their way?
02:34:00.000It's the $64 million question, but can you take a stab at it?
02:34:05.000Well, I think the answer to any time any tyranny remakes the world in their own image, it's going to be a very stratified society.
02:34:13.000They'll be the elite chosen ones at the top with all the wealth and power, and everybody else below will be Deliberately maintained in a state of poverty so that they can't quit working for the system.
02:34:24.000As far as people waking up, yes, it's starting to happen.
02:34:27.000The most important thing they can do is share their concerns with everybody they know.
02:34:30.000And I believe this NSA spying was leaked deliberately to intimidate people, to keep them from speaking with their neighbors and friends about what's going on in the country.
02:34:39.000I agree, and I think it's backfiring on them.
02:34:42.000Yeah, and I think people just need to decide.
02:34:45.000There are 288 million Americans, which according to the polls, most of which think Bush lied us into a war in Iraq.
02:34:51.000They think the country's headed in the wrong direction.
02:34:53.000The government can't watch all of us or listen to all of us at the same time.
02:34:57.000So this whole thing about worrying about if your phone is being listened to is nonsense.
02:35:01.000The best thing you can do is not be afraid.
02:35:03.000Go out and talk to people about what's going on, because right now we're hitting this moment of inertia.
02:35:10.000I think one of the worst things that we're raised with are fairy tales and TV shows and movies where there's always a happy ending, where the cavalry comes in and saves us.
02:35:18.000There's always an archetypal hero who does it all for us.
02:35:28.000You know, there are no heroes coming in.
02:35:30.000If we're going to make this a better country, we, the people, are going to have to do it.
02:35:35.000And I think people are coming to that realization.
02:35:37.000Because I think back to the history of Romania and the revolution they had.
02:35:41.000Two weeks before it happened, anybody looking around would have said, well, the people are perfectly happy, they've accepted their lives as it is, they don't care about the TV cameras on the street corners.
02:36:08.000Basically, I think when it happens here in the United States, we're going to see exactly the same rapidity.
02:36:15.000It'll be over in about two weeks where everybody will just say, okay, we've hit that That line.
02:36:20.000And I think back to World War Two, when Admiral Yamamoto learned that Pearl Harbor had been bombed before the declaration of war was delivered.
02:36:29.000And he said, all we've done is awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
02:36:34.000And the American people, those 288 million teachers and doctors and lawyers and caregivers and builders, they're still that teaching giant.
02:36:41.000When they learn what's really been done to them, and that's what we're doing, when they learn, it's going to be a force that globalists can't stop.
02:36:47.000And I think they know it's going to be a force they're going to have to fight with, that's why they're arranging this control grid.
02:37:07.000Chavez led the major defeat for at least another four or five years in the American Union.
02:37:13.000They're having defeat, after defeat, after defeat, and they're even saying in policy reports, we've lost control of the universities, they're not buying our propaganda, we're losing control of the alternative media, so they try to rush in to take control of it, or to block the internet, and at every point, it just makes people want the truth even more.
02:37:32.000And let me add this, and I want your take on what I just said about that, if you agree or disagree, In my whole life, I learned that if you just get past your fear, stand up to a bully, it feels good, it's empowering, and bullies don't like it.
02:37:47.000And people need to realize that we're not the bad guys.
02:38:00.000I mean, I get up on air, and I say, Dinecore and Halliburton are in the Chicago Tribune with giant child kidnapping rings, and they have lobbyists in D.C.
02:38:07.000openly protecting them, and this is mainstream news.
02:38:50.000And certainly going into Iran, And Sun Tzu said in Art of War, if you don't have the moral authority, you're not going to win the war.
02:38:59.000And we're going into Iran knowing we don't have the moral authority to do that.
02:39:02.000You know what the founder of the first Texas Rangers said, Captain Bill McDonald, no man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that is in the right and keeps on a coming.
02:39:20.000They can have a gun to my head right now, and they can say, renounce freedom, renounce America, renounce decency, renounce, you know, don't stand up for the kids we're kidnapping and raping and killing.
02:39:29.000And I'd say, pull the trigger, you bastard!
02:39:33.000Isn't it going to be more effective to pull the trigger back in their direction?
02:40:05.000Thomas Paine said much the same thing with his Summer Soldiers and Sunshine Patriots.
02:40:10.000If you're just there when it's easy to be done, then you're not really helping the situation.
02:40:13.000You have to be in there fighting when things are going really, really wrong and really bad.
02:40:19.000That's when the effort is needed, and if you're not there making that effort, then you're going to lose.
02:40:22.000Well, I remember 12 years ago talking like this, and people thought I was a three-headed monster from Pluto, and now people are waking up, but you're right.
02:40:30.000They're waking up, but they're not moving.
02:40:31.000They still see you, or I, or somebody else as a leader.
02:40:35.000No, folks, this is everybody doing something, and doing something small, but many hands make light work.
02:40:41.000We're not asking for people to go out and do anything dramatic or illegal.
02:40:45.000All we're saying is that the best thing you can be doing is talk to everybody you know about what you're learning.
02:40:50.000Talk to your friends, your neighbors, your hairstylist, your dentist, whatever.
02:40:54.000Just say, listen, what this country is doing is wrong.
02:40:58.000And what you're going to find is a lot of people who are thinking and feeling exactly the same that you are, but they're afraid to speak out because TV news has told them, oh, those people are all alone.
02:41:09.000I'm a big fan of history just like you are, and there's been hundreds and hundreds of cases of where they literally draw the line in the sand and they go, like the Alamo, You know, we're going to go fight this enemy.
02:41:19.000They outnumber us 8 to 1, 10 to 1, or many other historical examples.
02:41:37.000But in this case, you know, we're already the majority.
02:41:41.000The majority of Americans, according to even the media's polls, the majority of Americans think the government is lying to get us into these wars.
02:41:48.000They don't think the country is going in a good direction.
02:41:52.000They see that the Congress and the President very clearly are not representing the will of the people in the handling of foreign policy.
02:41:58.000And they're beginning to get concerned because somewhere down the road, if we go into Iraq, there has to be a draft to fill those manpower needs.
02:42:05.000And that is when things are really going to start coming unglued, I think, for the neocon war machine.
02:42:09.000Well, yeah, let's talk about that and then go to some calls.
02:42:14.000Going back, we have a so-called volunteer military, but really they just recruit out of the poor areas where people really don't have any other options or don't think they do.
02:42:23.000We know that they've done everything they can to try to exacerbate that, they even say that.
02:42:29.000They've set up the draft boards, they've said that they may need one.
02:42:32.000They've introduced legislation to do it, but still there's this mass denial.
02:42:36.000Now they're moving recruiters into the school who were there year-round.
02:42:40.000They're, quote, buddying them up in middle schools in San Antonio, where from 7th grade right through the 12th grade, you're going to have these same military men, quote, being your buddies.
02:42:49.000But it's clear that's not even going to work.
02:42:51.000Now they admit that 18% of who they brought into the military in recruiting last year are at the lowest IQ level authorized, literally at low-grade moron, 75 to 80 IQ points, and they're not even getting enough that way.
02:43:07.000He was lowered their recruitment target and then claimed they made the target.
02:43:12.000So what are they going to do, Michael?
02:43:14.000Well, obviously, you know, starting a draft before the November elections is definitely going to get the electorate Very upset, but as you said there is an economic draft in effect and a lot of people are suggesting that some of the economic hardships that are being felt in this country are intentionally caused in order to make the military the only option for people coming out of school People trying to get out of the ghettos they were brought up in.
02:43:39.000The whole economy is shifting over where, oh, there's no scholarship there for you to be a doctor or a teacher or a librarian, but there's a scholarship there for you to go into Homeland Security.
02:43:50.000They're shifting the economy over, and the same private interests own that, so they're also shifting the purse into their systems.
02:43:59.000And then, of course, for those people who are already in the military, the government is going through all these little legal loopholes to extend their service.
02:44:06.000There are people starting their fifth tour!
02:44:09.000Yeah, absolutely, and that was not the contract that they signed, but because it's the U.S.
02:44:14.000government, the government can change the contract, you know, with presidential fiat, and these people are still stuck in Iraq.
02:44:21.000There was one story that came through today that just absolutely floored me, of a soldier who was wounded in Iraq, and while he was being cared for, they took off his body armor and lost track of it.
02:44:31.000So he's getting out of the army because he's permanently wounded and can't serve anymore, And the Army bills him for the missing body armor, which didn't even protect him in the first place, and they're making him pay $700.
02:44:59.000Yeah, and it's absolutely shameful the way, you know, you figure that at the very least These kids in uniform, you have to respect them for walking their talk, for having the courage of their commitments, for keeping their words.
02:45:11.000They're very wonderful people and at the very least you should treat them with the respect and the care that they deserve for having stepped out there.
02:45:17.000Even if you don't agree with the war, you have to support those troops, and this is not supporting the troops who make them pay for missing the war.
02:45:23.000Oh yeah, and they're also quite supporting the troops by keeping them in a bad position.
02:45:27.000No, you support them by taking them back.
02:45:28.000When I was out in Crawford, when Sheehan was out there, I would talk to these neocons, and they were all defense contractors, former military, all of them.
02:45:44.000Yeah, I've seen a lot of people claiming we support the troops.
02:45:47.000What they support is they support the war, and they're trying to map that onto the troops.
02:45:50.000But you don't support the troops by sending them out for trivial reasons, for personal gain.
02:45:55.000You don't put them in harm's way for reasons that are completely alien to the concept of defending the nation.
02:46:00.000Well, I mean, that'd be like if somebody signed up to be a firefighter, and you told them, no, I'm gonna, you know, make you go, you know, dig ditches at my private business.
02:46:12.000Yeah, it absolutely is, and it is a terrible misuse of our kids, and if we owe anything to these soldiers in uniform, it is that we do not risk their life and their safety for trivial, you know, causes.
02:46:23.000Remember when the Pentagon said that we're going to have a Pentagon betting service on how many troops will die?
02:46:29.000Yeah, I remember seeing that one, and the other one that caught my eye this last week is the Pentagon is now setting up a A service to guide soldiers in the correct selection of a future bride, or future spouse, rather.
02:46:42.000Yeah, one who will submit to the military's brainwashing.
02:46:45.000Why do you think the neocons are so arrogant?
02:46:47.000I mean, the tires are blowing out on the military.
02:46:50.000They're bald, the metal's showing, the radio is showing.
02:46:54.000Why do the globalists just think this can go on forever?
02:46:58.000Well, I think, first of all, they obviously don't care what the costs and consequences of the wars are going to be.
02:47:04.000They feel they're serving a higher purpose.
02:47:06.000I think, in a lot of cases, they may actually be unaware of what the realities are on the ground, because underneath these people at the top, you've got all these mid-managers whose job it is to provide isolation.
02:47:17.000They don't want the superiors to get angry, or their coordinates to give up hope.
02:48:06.000And so there is a, just like every other country, a group in control over there that does not have their own people's best interests at heart.
02:48:15.000We're looking at world events that are orchestrated by corrupt, greedy individuals who just see the world as a giant playset to play a game on, and whoever gets the most goodies wins.
02:48:26.000And very clearly, they are immune to the suffering that their little game causes, and they don't represent The will of the people.
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02:54:59.000Michael, you want to take a stab at that?
02:55:01.000Yeah, I got involved with the same situation out in California about 10 years ago when there were some hideous abuses involving the San Diego Child Protective Services which wound up in a class action lawsuit and the entire department was shut down for violating the constitutional rights of parents.
02:55:20.000And, you know, when you have an organization where they get more money the more children they have, yeah, they're going to go out and find ways to acquire more children.
02:55:26.000The good news is their turnover, I've seen news articles about it, it's gone from a third every year to over half.
02:55:32.000Most of these people aren't that evil, so they can't do it, they quit.