Alex Jones speaks with Don Darling about the United Arab Emirates takeover of the Port of Houston, and the new plans for a massive new prison camp for American prisoners. Alex Jones is a long time member of the Veterans For Peace (VFP) organization. He has been a member of VFP for over 20 years and is now a full time activist.
00:02:12.000Really the gateway to the intercoastal ship channel that runs for over a thousand plus miles.
00:02:20.000And now we learn it's 21 ports and I listen to a lot of talk radio this weekend, driving around town doing errands or here in the office working, and I notice the neocons have this mantra, they won't run security, they won't run security, they won't run security.
00:02:35.000It's an evil liberal lie, evil liberal lie, evil Democrats, evil, evil Democrats.
00:02:40.000They won't run security, they won't run security, the UAE won't do it.
00:02:57.000It's much, much worse than you're even trying to spin it.
00:03:02.000So, I've got some more comments on the port situation when we get back.
00:03:06.000I'm not going to spend long on it today.
00:03:07.000That's all anyone is talking about, and frankly, it's a distraction from most of our roads being handed over to foreign corporations, most of our water, most of our power companies.
00:03:20.000I mean, literally, the majority of the infrastructure has been and is being handed over right now.
00:03:27.000So that's the real story, is that our infrastructure is being sold out, not just our jobs, Not just our morals, not just the fabric of what makes America America, it's all being repossessed right now.
00:03:40.000A chilling article out of the Associated Press and Newsday.
00:03:43.000Officials, smart cameras, armed guards, to protect WTC site.
00:03:48.000And everything they say in this article is the plan for the entire country.
00:03:54.000Huge article about civilian inmate labor camps, not from 1996 when the Pentagon declassified it, but the new memorandum, what is it, 50 plus pages, by General Shoemaker, head of the Army, got his feet wet in American blood at Waco.
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00:08:39.000Both parties are equally controlled, but the current Bush White House is trying to set up an official dictatorship.
00:08:46.000Congressman Ron Paul has told you this on this broadcast.
00:08:49.000We have articles written about and quotes and transcripts of what they've said and audio files.
00:08:54.000They're at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com for you.
00:08:58.000We have had Cynthia McKinnon, Congresswoman, on in the last month saying that.
00:09:02.000Bob Barr saying that, saying clearly we're going into a dictatorship.
00:09:07.000We've had Paul Craig Roberts, one of the twin fathers of Reaganomics, extremely conservative, saying that.
00:09:13.000We had Ray McGovern on Friday saying that in his 40-plus years in government as an Army officer in Southeast Asia, as an intelligence officer, as a CIA top-level briefing president, that yes, we are in real danger.
00:09:29.000They are trying to set up a dictatorship.
00:10:25.000And you know, there's different types of people in this world, but you can break them into a few groups.
00:10:29.000There's a lot of people that think you get ahead by only caring about yourself.
00:10:33.000There's a lot of people that think that you win in life, because the media has told them, by being self-centered.
00:10:38.000They could care less about anybody around them, even their own wife, their own husband, their own children, their grandparents.
00:10:44.000We've gone from being a nation that took care of their old folks to being a nation where we warehouse them, and not everybody, but warehouse them in these horrible nursing homes and don't even visit them.
00:10:54.000We've turned into a nation that doesn't spend the time with their friends and family to make sure they're taken care of and to make sure they're put on the right path in life.
00:11:04.000I have an intense drive, an intense... I grieve for this country.
00:11:09.000I grieve for families when I see them at the grocery store walking down the street because they're so happy-go-lucky and enjoying life and so simple-minded and have no idea of the evil growing up all around them.
00:11:22.000I have an intense love and a passion for humanity.
00:11:25.000I have an instinctive need to fight corruption and evil and I almost explode.
00:11:30.000I almost tear myself apart, attempting to defend humanity, attempting to get people to realize the threat they're under.
00:11:42.000When I see the individuals who are so self-centered, they're posing, they're preening, all they care about is status, and they've been told by the establishment that if you do these certain things, go along to get along, be greedy, be self-centered, that you'll supposedly get the status.
00:11:58.000Then if you get the status, they're the most unhappy people you've ever met.
00:12:02.000The happy people I know, the driven people I know, the fulfilled people I know, care about others.
00:12:09.000And yes, I have an intense, heartfelt feeling in my soul that I was forged for service.
00:12:18.000And I'm telling you, we were all forged.
00:12:21.000God made us in our mother's wombs for service.
00:12:25.000To stand up and to be good and to create and to love beauty and to love decency and to have courage and to stand up against evil and ugliness and the twisted activities of the globalists.
00:12:41.000If you think things are bad now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:12:44.000All of this is simply a preparation for the New World Order takeover, and it could happen within a twinkling of an eye when an A-bomb detonates in an American or European city.
00:12:56.000All of it has been prepared, and it isn't going to be the Arabs when it happens, I assure you.
00:13:01.000All right, let me just try to cover the news as...
00:13:07.000The simplest but at the same time most detailed fashion I can with the time constraints that we have here today.
00:13:16.000Let me just try to go over this as best I can.
00:13:22.000The UAE situation with the Dubai Ports world, we are now learning, is not 6, it is not 8, it is not 12, it is not 18, it is not even 21.
00:13:35.000It is more than 21 port complexes and of course now we're learning between 10 and 15, no one knows the actual number yet, depending on which paper you read, in Canada.
00:13:48.000It is the majority of major port systems in the United States and North America.
00:13:56.000To show how long we've been sold out, yes, the British owned these 20-plus ports.
00:14:04.000Even Forbes Magazine and Money, in past issues I've read over the years, admit the majority owners aren't Japan, they aren't the Saads, they aren't the Frenchies, they aren't the Germans.
00:14:15.000It is the British royal family and a handful of lords surrounding them.
00:14:30.000The supposed terrorism threat is a red herring.
00:14:33.000But I'm against the port transfer because I'm against key infrastructure being sold off.
00:14:38.000And I don't like the fact that Snow and others in the administration Have made millions of dollars personally and billions of dollars for their company companies in these sales now
00:14:50.000One of these individuals, according to the Associated Press, who has been nominated and is about to be confirmed to run all of the ports in the country and run security in the ports under the Maritime Administration, is the current number two man in this company, Dubai Ports World.
00:15:11.000So when you hear a neocon, get on the air and say, don't worry, UAE won't be running the security at these ports, In a way, that's true.
00:15:19.000They won't be running the security at those ports.
00:15:21.000Their former executive will be running all the security at over half the major port complexes in the United States.
00:15:29.000By that, big major dry dock, deep water ports, where goods and services are shipped in, where oil field equipment is shipped out, where pipelines for oil and gas come in.
00:15:39.000I mean, there are thousands of little sailboat, motorboat, and fishing boat Ports.
00:15:47.000We're talking about more than half of the major industrial ports in the United States.
00:15:54.000So, number one, this deal is criminal.
00:15:58.000It is violating all sorts of ethics and federal laws to have people who are getting millions of dollars, tens of millions, personally apiece, who are executives of companies in these deals being able to head up the Maritime Administration.
00:16:11.000Treasury Secretary Snowe being involved in a one-point 1.15 billion dollar deal.
00:16:17.000All of this, and he is the chairman of the government committee that authorized this deal.
00:16:25.000Snow authorizes the deal when he just made a deal a year and a half ago for $1,150,000,000 and now it's coming out, that's only one deal he made, he made other deals.
00:16:39.000And there's a lawsuit by the City of New York and others just trying to find out what other deals were made.
00:18:03.000It's totally, totally disgusting that this is happening.
00:18:07.000And why is everybody upset about this?
00:18:09.000Again, the highways, the water districts, the toll roads, the lakes, the former city and state-owned power companies, they're just being handed over, not even bought.
00:18:21.000They'll come pay a few pennies on the dollar, select money to politicians, and the politicians just hand it over.
00:18:27.000And it's all an inside deal, a mafioso-style takeover of this country.
00:18:34.000The Communist Chinese got the Long Beach military base, they got Freeport in the Bahamas, they got the Panama Canal.
00:18:41.000And, you know, I get on there and I criticize Bill Clinton for doing that, and I criticize Jimmy Carter for doing what he did, and I criticize the Republicans in 2000 for going along with the handover of the Panama Canal.
00:18:53.000You know, they'd stand up and grab and complain about it, but when it got down to brass tacks, they'd authorize it.
00:18:58.000It's because both parties are bought off.
00:19:00.000So, I want to hear the Democrats criticize Bill Clinton for this, and I want to hear you criticize George Bush.
00:19:05.000Let's actually criticize and be effective here, instead of only picking and choosing what area of the sellout you want to talk about.
00:19:13.000Now, when we get back, a bone-chilling article out of the Associated Press.
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00:23:02.000Alex Jones here with an important question.
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00:24:09.000This is out of the Associated Press today and this is what the entire country will be like.
00:24:17.000Official federal plans, and I simultaneously have a Boston Globe article about how they're buying the system designed by the British that they use in London for, quote, smart cameras for all of Boston.
00:24:28.000See, now the cameras they put up for traffic in your neighborhood for no reason?
00:24:32.000Well, again, we saw the documents a decade ago.
00:24:34.000Those are to track and trace and control you.
00:24:36.000Now the Pentagon brags to MIT Magazine and other publications about it.
00:24:40.000Now they're making the big public announcement, not just the one in trade publications.
00:24:45.000Official Smart Cameras Armed Guards to Protect WTC Site by Amy Westfeldt Someday, at the new and rebuilt World Trade Center site, visitors might submit to an Irish scan or analysis of their thumbprint to get into buildings.
00:25:02.000And our children, many public schools are now doing this to get school lunches, get library books.
00:25:07.000Parents to pick their children up have to do it all over the country.
00:25:35.000And it says preliminary details of a plan to make the redeveloped 16-acre site a terrorism proof As possible, we're provided to the Associated Press this week by former FBI agent James Kallstrom, Governor George Pataki's Senior Counterterrorism Advisor.
00:25:51.000Kallstrom and city federal officials are aiming for a standard of security that doesn't yet exist in public places around the nation.
00:26:01.000This will be reflective of the times we live in, said Kallstrom.
00:26:04.000The consequences of attacking here would have more significance to the terrorist.
00:26:10.000It's going to be extremely well-protected.
00:26:13.000And it goes more into what they'll be doing, and said that similar things were done at the Salt Lake City Olympics, and then also the Olympics that they just had that just closed up.
00:26:22.000So, over in Europe, And I remember seeing Ridge four years ago, before he even got authorization, before he was even a cabinet position, just a few months before they funded it.
00:26:32.000And I watched a two-hour meeting with him with CEOs.
00:26:49.000Comes law in 08, being everyone at the state level.
00:26:51.000And everywhere you go you'll be tracked with this card.
00:26:53.000There'll be transponders in your cars.
00:26:56.000He just went through it and then magically we see states starting to pass it, Texas almost passed it, we see the feds passing it, we see it all magically going into place right on time in everyone's face.
00:27:11.000So that's the reality of what's going on today.
00:27:17.000And that's what's happening here in our country.
00:27:42.000And right now, at the Boston Airport and four others that we read about that are doing it, they just, oh, you look suspicious.
00:27:49.000We're going to wave you through here and make you walk through this.
00:27:52.000But in the future, everyone's going to have to go through them.
00:27:55.000And I've got the reports right here where they're going to be to get on the bus, to go in the mall.
00:28:00.000You'll just have to walk through these.
00:28:03.000The best Hollywood example of this for somebody to get a grip on who hasn't seen these documents or seen the news articles or photos on our website of this is in the Running Man, not the Running Man, is in Total Recall where Schwarzenegger is running through the subway and he runs behind this screen and it scans through to his bones and they see the gun in his waist belt.
00:28:24.000Well, it doesn't scan down to the bones, though some models will scan beneath the skin.
00:28:29.000No, it just simply gives them an image of your body with greater sharpness than the human eye provides.
00:28:39.000Well, the human eye, at 10 feet away, doesn't pick up pores on someone's skin.
00:28:45.000When you look at these photos of these naked men and women that have been released by the government, people who have been scanned by these, and these are the photos they released, you can see everything on them, right down to the pores on their skin.
00:28:56.000Now, for things like CBS Nightly News, they released some more blurred photos where you can still see the genitalia, And details of the breast and the rest of it.
00:29:05.000But in photos where these industry companies brag about this technology, you can go look at the equivalent of Playboy Magazine clarity.
00:29:14.000But again, Playboy Magazine doesn't even show, doesn't look through hair.
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00:35:40.000And the idea everybody better get and get quickly if we're going to keep any freedom and save this republic from enemies foreign and domestic is that criminal elements of the government working with international corporations and intelligence agencies are carrying out Terror attacks systematically across the Western world and Asia and the Middle East to scare us into submission and as a pretext for the global empire.
00:36:06.000Now, I'm not going to spend all day on this because I want to take some calls before our next guest, Don Darling, gets in studio with us.
00:36:13.000But before we do that, detention centers for who exactly?
00:36:18.000And, uh, I've got, what, four mainstream news articles here today, two of them out of the United States about detention centers, but I have something much better than that.
00:36:30.000I have Civilian Inmate Labor Camp Program, Army Regulation 210-35, the unclassified variant, released a year ago.
00:36:42.000And there's so many documents, how can I ever keep track of them all?
00:36:45.000The last time any area of this program was declassified,
00:36:52.000was in 1996 it had been completely secret never been reported on never been released no army documents have been brought forward since it was set up in 1987 covertly in a massive national sprawling program then in 1996 they declassified it I have the cover page of that directly from the army in my documentary book
00:37:18.0009-11 dissent into tyranny, and we have that original article posted in those documents on InfoWars.com.
00:37:26.000Well, I learned that more than a year ago, this was released by the Army itself, and guess who signed it?
00:37:39.000Peter J. Shoemaker, General United States Army Chief of Staff, and his adjunct, Sandra R. Riley, Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Army.
00:37:53.000And you can go read the classified portions of this and its addendums and sub-links that is in the hundreds of pages.
00:39:01.000Together, we're going to try to put an article out on this.
00:39:05.000But the big lie is that these don't exist.
00:39:09.000You can go read, you can learn about them, you can see them, it's all happening, it's all going on.
00:39:16.000And what they do is, in plain view, they demonstrate that all of this is normal and okay.
00:39:21.000Now you read the original 1996 document, and it says, We use only federal prisons on the camps, but we're in negotiations for state prisoners.
00:39:32.000Then you read deeper into just the first three-page synopsis, or the document summary, and it says, oh, we're actually working with multiple states with state inmates living at our camps.
00:39:58.000See, there's so many of these, and so we're going to be writing an article about it, and today we're linking to the raw document and the news articles, but we are doing our own analysis of it as soon as this transmission ends today.
00:40:16.000It's an alternative news article and I'll read some of the mainstream ones.
00:40:19.000Bush's Mysterious New Programs by Nat Perry, Consortium News, carried by Alternet.
00:40:26.000Not that George W. Bush needs much encouragement, but last week Senator Lindsey Graham suggested to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez a new target for the administration's domestic operations.
00:40:37.000Fifth, a columnist, supposedly disloyal Americans who sympathize and collaborate with the enemy.
00:40:45.000And he openly called for their arrest.
00:40:46.000The administration is not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue fifth column movements, Graham, Republican South Carolina, told Gonzales during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings February 6th.
00:40:59.000I stand by the President's ability, inherent in being Commander-in-Chief, to find out about fifth column movements like his own, I would say, and I don't think you need a warrant to do that, Graham added.
00:41:09.000Well, don't worry, the Pentagon's spying on most of the major peace groups and harassing people, volunteering to work with the administration to draft guidelines for how best to neutralize this alleged threat.
00:41:21.000Senator, a smiling Gonzales, reported and responded, the President already said we'd be happy to listen to your ideas.
00:41:30.000Let's not bring that up here, sweetie.
00:41:32.000Same guy who says they can torture people to death as long as they don't call it torture.
00:41:36.000And his deputy, John Yoo, another White House counsel, said they can torture small children, crushing body parts in front of their parents.
00:41:43.000In less paranoid times, Graham's comments might be viewed by many Americans as a Republican trying to have it both ways.
00:41:49.000Integrating himself to the administration of his own party, excuse me, ingratiating himself to the administration of his own party, while seeking some credit for Washington centrists for suggesting Congress should have at least a tiny say in how Bush runs the war on terror.
00:42:03.000But recent developments suggest that the Bush administration may already be contemplating what to do with Americans who are deemed insufficiently loyal or who disseminate information that may be considered helpful to the enemy.
00:42:16.000officials have cited the need to change news And challenge news that undercuts Bush's actions as a key front in defeating the terrorists who are aided by news informers, that's a quote, in the words of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who has said the internet needs to be targeted and targeted immediately.
00:42:35.000Now, it came out two weeks ago that 1.6 billion dollars has been used in the last two and a half years for fake newscasts and paying off reporters.
00:42:45.000Why, this weekend I was researching the overthrow of Mozadek in 1953 by the CIA, MI6, led by Kermit Roosevelt, and there I was reading the declassified communiques and reports to Downing Street and to D.C., to the White House, the Oval Office, by Kermit Roosevelt, his after-action report.
00:43:05.000And, uh, just type in Kermit Roosevelt declassified Mozedek overthrow documents.
00:43:09.000There's a whole section on, uh, document section on the New York Times of all places about it.
00:43:14.000And he talks about, well, we're already paying off a lot of American newspapers and media and have our agents over most major newspapers, but we need to do more.
00:43:22.000I mean, go read from 1953 an after-action report about what they can do better.
00:43:29.000And of course, what were they doing then?
00:43:31.000They were blowing up mosques, bombing religious leaders, machine-gunning crowds, and then blaming Mosaddegh for it.
00:43:39.000And you can go to the CIA.gov, and you can go to their website, and you can sit right there, and you can read it all for yourself.
00:43:49.000You don't have to hear it from Alex Jones.
00:43:52.000You don't have to hear it from Ray McGovern.
00:43:53.000You don't have to hear it from Ron Paul.
00:43:55.000You don't have to hear it from Cynthia McKinney.
00:43:57.000You don't have to hear it from Paul Craig Roberts.
00:43:59.000You don't have to hear it from any of these people.
00:44:02.000You can just go to CIA.gov and you can check it out for yourself.
00:44:12.000And listen, last week, Morrissey The tame, we want to call him rock and roll.
00:44:19.000He's kind of like a depressed lounge singer.
00:44:22.000I had a girlfriend like Morrissey many years ago, and the guy has of course no criminal record, done nothing wrong, and it was all over the news.
00:45:22.000They do that to little mothers who go out with five other people and hand out peanut butter and jelly sandwiches down in Houston, going, there's toxic waste been dumped on your property at Halliburton.
00:45:33.000You know, they're just there protesting the environment.
00:47:39.000It's been in six mainstream newspapers, including three of them being U.S., and it was also in WorldNet Daily.
00:47:45.000I don't count that as a mainstream newspaper.
00:47:48.000And it was in an Italian newspaper and a British newspaper over the last four years.
00:47:54.000We have a little archive on PrisonPlanet.com concerning that and it says of the G8, they've lined up seven.
00:48:02.000The only country that hasn't agreed to it, I mean they're actually officially lining it up, is the United States.
00:48:08.000And they have to change a rule, but they're talking about making that rule change, and it's the Security Council that does that out of the five nations and the G8 that vote together to do that, so they could do it, and yeah, end up with Hillary, the war hunk, the gun grabber, and as President and Clinton, as the head of the UN, wouldn't that be special?
00:48:30.000Again, it's like five days before it was in mainstream news about the UAE, I got on air and covered some of the watchdog groups that were reporting on federal filings.
00:48:41.000I linked through to the federal filings and I read it on air.
00:49:04.000Let's go ahead and talk to, who's up next here?
00:49:10.000I believe you said Barrett, your mic cuts out every time you talk to me, so I couldn't hear it.
00:49:14.000Barrett in Texas, go ahead, you're on the air.
00:49:16.000Oh, hey, it's an honor to talk to you, Alex.
00:49:20.000I think you were spot on, man, when you were talking about earlier, about this fake neocon debate around this Dubai port deal.
00:49:28.000Because these are all essentially multinational corporations, and they're not attached to any country.
00:49:33.000So they're going to argue, and a lot of the popular support base for Bush has been saying that this is bad for our national security, and they've been kind of turning tail on Bush.
00:49:41.000But the fact of the matter is that all these corporations are essentially self-serving, and they're just going to outsource whatever product it is they produce to other countries.
00:49:51.000Well, it was already British and it wasn't six.
00:49:55.000When they say that it's an Arab corporation, it's in fact a multinational corporation, and it has absolutely no allegiance to anything other than...
00:50:04.000Well, it was already British, and it wasn't six.
00:50:08.000The story that's being missed is that the head of the Federal Commission, happens to be the Treasury Secretary, that signed off on this deal, and he just did a year and a half ago a $1,150,000,000 deal with this company, and the guy they're appointing to head up all deal with this company, and the guy they're appointing to head up all port security in America, and who will command the Coast Guard and all of it, is their number two executive right now over Europe and
00:50:39.000Well, I just also wanted to thank you, man, for not, like, succumbing to an element in the movement, and, you know, I'd just like to thank you for not balkanizing us on racial, ethnic, or religious lines, man.
00:50:50.000I think you're right on, dude, and I hope everything works out.
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00:54:08.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
00:54:10.000By the way, in my first documentary film that I produced, America Destroyed by Design, we didn't just go show the handover of the Panama Canal and of course the Long Beach Naval Base to the Chi-Coms.
00:54:30.000We also played clips from the 1986 Iran-Contra hearings where Congressman Jack Brooks from Texas goes to Oliver North, hey what about this plan, of course in the name of dealing with illegal aliens, even then that was the plan.
00:54:45.000We'll build camps, say it's for illegal aliens, and then put political dissidents in it.
00:54:49.000And he says, what's this plan about putting political dissidents in camps here in America that I saw in Miami papers?
00:54:56.000We ought to get that clip and play it.
00:54:58.000And the committee chairman, Inouye, who's still up there, Brooks is dead now, says, we cannot talk about that now.
00:55:04.000We'll talk about that if you'd like in executive session.
00:55:29.000And then we had this senator last week, we just read the quotes, last segment, coming out and saying, we need to do something about these war protesters.
00:56:10.000And I know you as listeners who listen to talk radio have heard that, because I've probably listened 20 times, and no kidding, I've heard him like 15 times, almost every time I tune in.
00:56:19.000Supposedly he hasn't been doing that in the last year.
00:56:22.000And then you have this senator two weeks ago, Saying the exact same thing, coming out and saying, you know, we need to start arresting these people, Attorney General.
00:56:32.000The Attorney General's, ah, we'll talk about that privately later, sir.
00:56:36.000So, so, I'm not trying to scare people.
00:56:39.000When they were arresting rock stars who criticized Bush, I'm going, why did you criticize him?
00:56:43.000They just, they just suspended the Mayor of London for a full month for calling a newspaper's tactics Nazi-like.
00:56:53.000I've got articles here where films in Germany, critical of the war, the government's openly disgusting, not letting them show it, and it says we're sending secret police to the viewings.
00:57:06.000And if we give in to it, like the Germans did, if we give in to it like the Russians did, if we give in to it like the Cubans did, it is over in this country.
00:57:15.000Alright, when we get back, a good friend of mine, never interviewed him, but watched his TV show many times, he's Don Darling, and he's just a wonderful individual, and of course worked in the Navy, and that's an interesting story, so he'll be smiling at me.
00:57:28.000He'll be joining us coming up in the next hour, and then one of his colleagues, also involved with Veterans for Peace, He's scheduled to be joining us coming up in the third hour and we'll cover a lot of news, get his takes on that, talk about what he experienced in the Navy, what he calls the mapmakers.
00:59:35.000The exploding pandemonium in Bedlam going on in Iraq right now.
00:59:40.000The suspicions, very suspicious circumstances surrounding the bombing of that particular shrine.
00:59:46.000We had former CIA high-level analyst Ray McGovern on last Friday saying that the evidence is pointing towards Western government's involvement in that, and we have an article with his quotes up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now.
01:00:02.000Our guest for this hour and perhaps a little bit into the next hour, if you can stay with us, He's a good friend of mine.
01:00:09.000I've had dinner with him, watched his TV show countless times, so I feel like I know him better than I even do.
01:00:13.000He's Don Darling, and he was the commander of a submarine rescue ship, I believe the Skylark.
01:00:21.000He joins us here in studio because he's a member of Veterans for Peace.
01:00:25.000In the last five, six years he's really gotten involved, having a lot of guests in from around the world in his TV show, and talking about the war, talking about what's happening in our country, talking about the deceptive activities of our government, and so he'll be joining us to talk about a host of issues.
01:00:47.000For those who just joined us, tell us a little bit about yourself, because I always see you on TV and you never talk about yourself.
01:00:53.000I want to start out in this segment, and a little bit in the next, talking about Don Darling and just the process in your life of awakening.
01:01:00.000So let's go back to getting into the Navy, why you got in, what you thought you were fighting, you were a Navy diver as well, what developed?
01:01:09.000Well, I'd like to go back a little further.
01:01:44.000I lived there until I was eight years old, so I developed a compassion for poor people, disadvantaged people, people who had fallen into poverty or into difficulty, what we see in our country a lot today.
01:01:57.000Well, I went on from there, and anyway, when I was 17, I had been kind of discontent because I saw that the playing field wasn't level.
01:02:22.000I was sent to electronic school, went up through the ranks, made Chief Petty Officer on my first submarine after I served on two aircraft carriers, and then went into the nuclear submarine program.
01:02:35.000From there, I was promoted out of the nuclear submarine program, promoted to officer candidate school, became an officer, went back to submarines as an officer.
01:02:44.000I made 13 special operations in submarines while I was in the Navy, two smoke boats, diesel electric, and one nuclear powered, a Polaris submarine.
01:03:23.000You're in there, you're fighting the commies, you're fighting for America, and then that process of awakening.
01:03:29.000I've one time seen you on TV talk about yourself personally.
01:03:32.000There are so many good people who make all these sacrifices, jump through all these hoops, And then they say, hey, I'm part of this government.
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01:07:29.000They've removed the seals, the nukes, the nukes.
01:07:31.000And they don't seem to mention it's a peaceful reactor that's already been completely inspected with video cameras in it, and it's their right to do it.
01:07:39.000Continuing, I mean, it's something the University of Texas is allowed to have right here in Austin, a nuclear reactor, but we're all supposed to keep quiet about that, but gotta attack them Iranians.
01:07:48.000And then now you have this bombing, stirring everything up.
01:07:50.000And again, Ray McGovern last Friday, I said, Ray, who do you think's behind that?
01:08:02.000Because we caught those Brits, SAS, Special Air Services, dressed up with fake beards, driving around with little truck bombs, and shooting Iraqi policemen, our people, in Basra.
01:09:00.000Now, I know a lot of stations just joined us, so we're going to recap.
01:09:04.000I've got a really special guest in here for the rest of the hour and some into the next hour, so I've got plenty of time to cover it.
01:09:09.000I'm going to bring up some of the topical news and get Don's take on it because he does a weekly news show and does interviews and brings in a lot of heavy hitters.
01:09:17.000I don't watch a lot of TV, but when I'm occasionally watching and flipping through, I always stop on Don Darling.
01:09:22.000He does a local cable show here in Austin.
01:09:25.000We'll tell you about some of the websites and organizations you can visit.
01:09:29.000But I've been watching Don for years, and I knew he'd been in the Navy, but I didn't know that he was a commander of a submarine rescue ship, a Navy diver.
01:09:41.000This is an incredibly patriotic individual, and so many people who are in the military So many people who are high-level, low-level, whatever, they email me and go, Alex, we know you're good, you were good when you were bashing Bill Clinton, but why are you bashing Bush now?
01:09:55.000And, you know, I'm in the government, so don't say the government's evil, because you're saying I'm evil!
01:10:01.000Folks, a real man doesn't just go out and beat people up or climb obstacles.
01:10:07.000A real man or woman has to be able to face evil and have moral courage.
01:10:11.000In fact, major psychological studies have shown, against peer pressure, it takes more courage To say no to the crowd, to say no in Nazi Germany, when the Nazis were so popular, than it does to charge a machine gun nest.
01:10:26.000But if we don't get that courage to go against our pre-programming, it's over.
01:10:30.000And so I got Don Bennett in here, Don Bennett's another good friend of mine here in Austin, I was just listening to his show, Don Darling, in here today, because He's such a good man, he's done so much wonderful work, and he's a patriot for this country today as he was years ago.
01:10:49.000So, Mr. Darling, thank you for coming on with us.
01:10:51.000And just quickly, rundown, you were kind of born into the Grapes of Wrath type situation, out at one of the poor farms with your parents working there.
01:11:00.000You then went and got into the Navy, scored well, was in nuclear submarines and diesel subs.
01:11:06.000Recapping, we've gotten up to that point.
01:11:10.000Well, I was promoted out of the nuclear program to Officer Candidate School.
01:11:15.000I became a 90 Day Wonder from Charm School and then went back to submarines as an officer and then finally to a nuclear submarine, a Polaris submarine, engaged in mutually assured destruction.
01:11:34.000But I started seeing that a lot of the stuff that we were doing, I didn't I did not see the sense of it.
01:11:43.000Well, I went on from having command of a submarine rescue ship.
01:11:48.000I served on three submarines and did 13 special operations in submarines.
01:11:55.000Then, commanding officer of the submarine rescue ship Skylark, which, by the way, Before I had command of it was with the USS Thresher when the Thresher made her last dive, the one from which she did not surface.
01:12:12.000My last year of duty in the Navy was in Washington, D.C., and I saw things there that I can't even talk about now that turned me off.
01:12:22.000It is a very difficult thing to be a red, white, and blue commissioned officer or enlisted person in the military forces of the United States and to start to see that something isn't right, that there's a fine line between patriotism and fascism.
01:12:44.000It is so difficult to make this transition because we are so convinced of the virtuosity and the righteousness of the United States of America.
01:12:54.000And I understand when I speak out, as I am now, why people get offended because they think I'm talking to them directly.
01:13:16.000It was the American people who paid my way to do that.
01:13:22.000Sure, I worked for Carter Johnson and those presidents.
01:13:26.000It was before Carter Johnson and those presidents.
01:13:33.000I'm 75 years old, so if I pause once in a while, I deserve to.
01:13:39.000You're doing great, what are you talking about?
01:13:42.000Anyhow, so I got out of the Navy and I became a chiropractor, but I continued to follow what was going on in the world.
01:13:54.000I didn't speak out very much, but I saw a Navy Admiral, Admiral Gene LaRock, who founded the Center for Defense Information in Washington.
01:14:05.000speaking out, and finally I had a chance to talk to him.
01:14:07.000And he gave me the courage to speak out against what I see as bad policies, domestic and foreign, that our government participates in.
01:14:23.000Well, we've had a lot of admirals and captains and some of the folks involved with the USS Liberty here on the broadcast.
01:14:28.000And before you leave us today, don't let me forget to bring up the USS Liberty, because you've also exposed that and worked on that and aired one of the documentaries here locally, Mr. Darling.
01:14:37.000But continuing, Don, I don't want to just glaze over this.
01:14:42.000Just personally, because it's interesting, let's talk about how old you were when you had to go back and become a certified Navy diver, which isn't easy, and then what some of your work on the submarine rescue ship as its commander was like.
01:15:41.000Some of the things we did, we were deployed in the Mediterranean when the French submarine Eurydice went down.
01:15:49.000We got underway and went through the Straits of Gibraltar to go see if we could help those guys, only to learn that they were in water far too deep for our capability to get to.
01:16:00.000There were other incidents where we were involved in potential submarine losses.
01:16:06.000A submissive program once where we were able to find a submarine that had not come in with its daily check report and to get it to surface and validate that it was okay.
01:16:18.000A lot of exciting things like that and I really enjoyed having command of a Navy ship.
01:16:31.000My Mediterranean deployment on the Skylark was in 1970, and that was three years after the Liberty incident.
01:16:47.000When I bring that up later, because I want to talk about politics and what's happening currently, before we do that, I want to get the view of what you guys heard at the time.
01:16:55.000In hindsight, and people have spoken out, including admirals who took the phone call from LBJ saying, I want that GD boat on the bottom.
01:17:01.000Because they were going to blame it on Egypt.
01:17:05.000But before we get into that later, I just want to get the view intelligence-wise of back at the time, as a commander captaining a ship, what you guys were hearing about it then in that area.
01:17:15.000We're about to break, Don, and I didn't do any pre-interview with you.
01:17:19.000I've just seen so many of your shows, so many of the research you've done, so many things we've talked about personally.
01:17:24.000I would like to get you to, when we get back, to talk about whatever you like, current politics, what's happening, how you woke up, what you think is wrong, what are some of the things you want to discuss when we get back.
01:17:35.000Okay, I'd like to discuss this process of changing from, and how many people have done it, have decided that their military career was, they were like, were like mercenaries employed to defend the special interest of global corporations.
01:17:53.000Instead, in the vital interest of the United States, when they, the few times that they are defined, seem very close to the vital interest of global corporations to me.
01:18:04.000And I've raised that point before and I believe it firmly and I've had support from other military people who believe the same thing.
01:18:11.000Well, they wouldn't say that five years ago.
01:18:13.000Now, the darling of the Naval War College, Dr. Barnett, goes on C-SPAN and says, we don't work for America.
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01:23:16.000I want to get into how we work for the global corporations, and those aren't the interests of the American people.
01:23:21.000And then I want to get into the U.S.' 's liberty and a lot more before you leave us today and what you think of the whole Iran-Iraq situation as it develops.
01:23:33.000Well, again, it's very difficult to make that transition from a red, white, and blue Committed, dedicated, commissioned, or enlisted man in the service of the United States to somebody who speaks out.
01:23:47.000But we feel it's our patriotic duty to speak out if we see things that are wrong with our country.
01:23:54.000I'm patriotic to the United States of America, to the Constitution of the United States, and not to George Bush or any of the presidents.
01:24:10.000I want to talk to you about campaign medals.
01:24:13.000During the Napoleonic Wars, Napoleon realized that for little pieces of ribbon and little pieces of medal, he could get people to risk their lives to achieve his goals.
01:24:26.000Another quote is from Napoleon, with a handful of ribbons I can conquer all of Europe.
01:24:34.000So these ribbons that are so sought after are just come-ons to get us to risk our lives.
01:24:41.000It's like buying Long Island for a chest of glass beads.
01:24:50.000Well, Smedley Butler was a general in the Marine Corps who earned two Congressional Medals of Honor.
01:24:59.000And he says, I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service as a member of our country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps.
01:25:12.000And he goes on to say, during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street, for the bankers.
01:25:20.000In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.
01:25:23.000And I feel that way now, too, and I think a lot of veterans feel that way.
01:25:28.000Of course, a lot of them are still patriotic.
01:25:31.000They're still hooked on that patriotism, my country, right or wrong.
01:25:37.000Well, last hour, even if the government's saying do something that's actually anti-American, that's supposedly more American to destroy American freedom.
01:25:45.000Last hour, Don, I talked a lot about the police, state, martial law, FEMA camps.
01:25:50.000And they actually tried to hire Smedley Butler.
01:25:52.000It came out in congressional hearings.
01:25:53.000I have copies of it and I even have film from it.
01:26:33.000This guy, John Dryden, was an Englishman who was kind of the spokesman for his age.
01:26:40.000poet laureate in England, and he wrote in a prophetic insight, he wrote, such subtle covenant shall be made till peace itself is war and masquerade.
01:26:53.000Now if he were around today, to more fully cover the subtle covenants of the present age, he might have added, till morality itself is bigotry and masquerade.
01:27:05.000And tell patriotism itself is fascism and masquerade.
01:27:13.000There's a lot of illusion in this world we're in, and it's fabricated illusion to pull us into the objectives of... What do you mean by mapmakers?
01:27:59.000So they really set paradigms is what you're saying.
01:28:02.000Most people are thinking inside paradigms, parameters that were already drawn up for them instead of getting outside of it and saying it's what I've been told and given reality.
01:28:22.000I want to talk about Veterans for Peace, I want to talk about the Iran situation, and the USS Liberty, DU, and because you've been involved in the nuclear program as well, and we'll also get into Karl Rove and the rest of them.
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01:32:33.000And the Attorney General and the President say, oh because the Constitution says so, then you go read it, and it's the complete opposite.
01:32:40.000We are seeing a dictatorship being perfected.
01:32:43.000And we've had so many Congressmen, so many experts, so many former members of the Reagan, Bush Senior, even the current Bush Administration.
01:32:49.000Morgan Reynolds has come on here, their Chief Economist for the Department of Labor.
01:32:57.000Just a few weeks ago, Bob Barb, who we also had on the show and who agreed with our analysis, got up and gave a speech against the police state and signing over all authority of the President.
01:33:06.000He was booed off the stage and Viet Dinh, who had been the Deputy Attorney General under Ashcroft, got up and said, no, the President is the law, and they had a standing ovation.
01:34:14.000Don, I want to just get your take on the same crew that, in their own documents, we now have the Downing Street and the White House memo, where they said they were going to manufacture evidence, signed by them, that they don't even deny its authenticity.
01:34:27.000We have them using the exact same propaganda.
01:34:30.000In fact, there have been news articles where they'll give a speech, and it's exactly the same line for line, just, Iraq is changed to Iran, and they're using the same lies for a new country.
01:34:42.000Well, it is exactly what people that profit from warfare want, and it's amazing to me how addicted to war we are here.
01:34:54.000I think it's ridiculous to be engaging in wars that take our Our resources, our economic resources, we have people in the Gulf Coast that are in dire need of those resources now, but we're spending them on war.
01:35:11.000Another thing we're doing that bothers the heck out of me is we're using war as a worthy challenge for our young people.
01:35:20.000Don't we have alternatives we can use to challenge our young people, to make them mature like a vision quest for the Native Americans and for the various men?
01:35:33.000Well, you're back to mountain makers of reality.
01:35:42.000They tell you to be a man, you've got to go join the military, and there's nothing wrong with that, but then they give them experimental shots, they breathe DU, they use them in wars that are a fraud, and supposedly this is how you become a man.
01:35:55.000Well, I think we do need a military, Alex.
01:35:58.000I think we do, but about a third of what we have now.
01:37:37.000They're bombing it for hours, strafing it, shooting the lifeboats, 30-something dead of a 130-something crew.
01:37:42.000Go in from memory and correct me if I'm wrong.
01:37:44.000And all this is happening just to blame it on Egypt.
01:37:48.000An Israeli pilot's gone public and said, yeah, we knew what we were doing, we were ordered to do it.
01:37:52.000I mean, that's an example of how cold-blooded, and our own admirals wanted to go save the ship, our own fighter pilots.
01:37:58.000And then I talked to the second mate and others who, once they got on the ship a day later, the Admiral called them in and said he took his emblems off and he said, no, it's just you and I talking.
01:38:08.000He did this with each person, each survivor, including the captain, McGonagall, who won the Congressional Medal of Honor secretly.
01:38:15.000They wouldn't even let anybody know he'd gotten it.
01:38:16.000And they said to him, they said, okay, I heard what you had to say.
01:38:20.000If you tell anybody what happened, life in prison or worse, do you understand?
01:38:25.000And to interview admirals who witnessed all of this, I mean, the ship did nothing.
01:38:30.000And clearly, and they all agree now, it's clear that our government, the White House, LBJ, it was basically Operation Northwoods is what they're implementing.
01:38:42.000And the Israelis were going to sink and kill all survivors and blame it on Egypt, clearly.
01:38:47.000I mean, that is an example for anybody in the military out there that doesn't understand that you're nothing to these controllers.
01:38:54.000They've taken the most honorable, most loved country, and most loved military.
01:40:17.000Well, so anyway, he did that, and he walked that fine line between being able to stand the pain and to think clearly in performing the medical duties that he had to do, That was heroic, I thought.
01:41:05.000CIA website, National Archives admits hundreds of bombings our government carried out all over the world to blame it on their political enemies.
01:42:43.000They're on a power trip, and they rationalize.
01:42:45.000I don't know your personal thought processes, but I'm guilty for things I did when I was 12 years old.
01:42:51.000I'm guilty for things I did when I was 18.
01:42:53.000I'm guilty for being rude to a grandmother one time years ago, and she's dead now.
01:42:59.000I'm guilty when I'm rude to my wife, and I don't see that as a weakness that I have a conscience, or that I feel like I need to warn people and help society.
01:43:07.000I thought that was normal, but according to these globalists, I'm a weakling.
01:43:14.000I don't know how to respond to that, Alex.
01:43:17.000It's just incredible the conditions that we're under here and how far we've gone from, well at least from what I thought was our foundations, the foundations on which America is built.
01:43:31.000Maybe some of the mapmakers of reality were the writers of our Constitution.
01:43:36.000A reality that I don't think we've achieved yet.
01:43:39.000I hope someday we can become the country that we've only pretended to be up to this point.
01:43:44.000Did you see that quote in the New York Times attributed to a reporter talking to Karl Rove and he said, look, you guys say whatever you want, do whatever you want, we control reality.
01:43:52.000In fact, I believe the quote was, we make the maps.
01:43:55.000He said, we control reality and the rest of you are just spectators.
01:44:10.000I think we get people, frankly I think things are going to get worse and worse and we've got to wake people up so as they get worse and worse, people who are in denial will at least later wake up.
01:44:19.000I found doing this almost 12 years that no one listened to me 12 years ago and now everybody does because people know deep down something's wrong, Don.
01:44:28.000Aren't you finding people are more receptive to you?
01:44:32.000I mean, there's still the folks that have bought into the red, white, and blue, the John Philip Sousa marches and all that stuff about patriotism that turns out to be very close to fascism.
01:44:47.000If you look in the dictionary, read about patriotism and fascism, you'll see they're not far apart.
01:44:52.000Well, patriotism towards the Fuhrer, towards the government, is patriotism to the documents and to a way of life, is Americana.
01:44:59.000But you're right, that false patriotism you're talking about is truly evil.
01:45:04.000I want to take some calls, but I want to get into DU.
01:45:06.000Now, I've had Doug Rockey on, Dr. Doug Rockey.
01:45:10.000I've read on air, we posted him the Army Field Manual, saying it's deadly poison and radioactive and particulate.
01:45:18.000Just a small whiff of it, you know, a few thousand particulates, it's going to kill you.
01:45:24.000Or make the rest of your life very, very painful.
01:45:36.000Even higher with the Iraqis and the Serbs and the Afghanis.
01:45:39.000And we have ten proving grounds here in the U.S.
01:45:42.000Now, the military was only going to use that if the Russians came into Europe and they were going to load the Shabos and the Abrams M1A and different tanks with it.
01:45:52.000Now they're serving it out to dozens and dozens of different weapons.
01:45:55.000They've used three times the numbers this go around in Iraq that they used in 1991.
01:46:20.000Generals, I was reading, will move into a base bombarded with it and will just have sand dumped on where the shells impacted, breathing it themselves!
01:46:29.000The New World Order even doesn't breathe it themselves!
01:46:35.000I've interviewed Doug Rocky too, and I think he's a good, honorable man, and a true patriot, who has seen the light about depleted uranium.
01:46:50.000But he sees it about a lot of other things too, about the toxic aftermath of our presence, and most anywhere in the world.
01:46:58.000Another guy who sees a toxic nature of our foreign policy, of our policies, is Dave Grossman who wrote On Killing.
01:47:41.000It was a full nuclear power plant, not clear-filled, but with only one propeller.
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01:47:56.000And I was in end-of-core-life testing of that facility, and I pulled rods on the reactor there, Uh, max rate with only two 120% scram power levels engaged.
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01:53:13.000And he's been in New Orleans lately, and a lot of the pictures you've seen in the national media of Mr. Whittington, he took.
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01:55:16.000God bless you and everyone that you love.
01:55:22.000You know, getting back to the port scenario, I was talking with Mark Levin at WABC the other day.
01:55:27.000He's a phony conservative, just like you're nailing him, and he says basically that he's not a protectionist, that anybody complaining He's a protectionist and he's a capitalist.
01:55:41.000So of course we know that the conservatives are totally phony.
01:55:45.000If Clinton was president and all this activity was occurring on his watch, the Republicans would be up in arms.
01:56:15.000Veterans for Peace has, if you're not a veteran, we have associate memberships, and we'd be glad to have anyone who shares our views and works to end nuclear warfare and bring peace to the world.
01:56:34.000Check that out if you're interested, Mike.
01:56:36.000And that's veteransforpeace.org, I believe.
01:56:49.000Alex, keep us up to speed with the Supreme Court ruling in Texas on the property tax issue, because that is such big news, and we've got to see that start a grassroots fire.
01:57:00.000For those who don't know, about six months ago, the Texas Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional, but you haven't heard anything about it.
01:57:06.000Meanwhile, the federal Supreme Court's ruling, if private interests want your land, they take it.
01:57:11.000And the big, dirty secret is, they're not giving people just compensation.
01:57:14.000That's the New London, Connecticut situation.
01:57:17.000We're going to come back and talk to Matt, David, and Dale as quickly as possible with our guest Don Darling, who will be joined in studio by combat journalist, combat documentary photographer, Alan Poe.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:10.000Well, Don Garland joins us, commander of a Navy submarine rescue ship, worked on nuclear submarines, you name it.
01:58:17.000Found out about this whole globalist operation and has been exposing it for years here locally in Austin with his TV show where he interviews people for Veterans for Peace.
01:58:27.000And coming up another Veteran for Peace, it'll be Alan Pogue, combat journalist, photographer, Vietnam veteran, combat medic as well.
01:58:35.000And a bunch of other news I'm going to bring up for both these guests in the next hour who are both gracious enough to join us today.
01:58:43.000Quickly, Matt in Texas, you're on the air with Alex Jones and Don Darling.
01:58:56.000They knew it wasn't Ryerson, and once they knew it wasn't, they wouldn't even say what it was, because some girl saw some powder, some old fungus that grew on some quarters, and the shows were just clinging to the government, take our rights, save us, and helicopters flying around and people in bio-containment suits.
01:59:12.000Meanwhile, they're going to dump toxic waste, chemical weapons waste from the Delaware River, and dump tens of thousands of tons of raw nerve gas in the Atlantic Ocean just a few miles offshore, but that isn't a crisis.
01:59:24.000Go to the government to save you, because there's some dust on some corridors.
02:01:34.000Quickly, I believe that if we abolished All our consumption of our current oil and energy resources and we implemented the use of marijuana.
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02:06:24.000Doing our two-camera shoot also for the local TV show and for the viewers on the internet.
02:06:29.000You know, a testament though to the fact, last hour I was talking to Don Darling, a Navy veteran and a great patriot, a member of Veterans for Peace.
02:06:37.000A testament is the fact that ten, twelve years ago, plus I was a lot more wild-eyed then, that most people didn't listen to Alex Jones.
02:06:43.000Now almost everyone I talk to does know that something's wrong and is realizing that all of my radical pronouncements have a basis in reality.
02:06:51.000And another testament to that is Infowars.com and, of course, PrisonPlanet.tv and Infowars.com with millions and millions and millions per site of individual visitors each month.
02:07:03.000And there's hundreds and hundreds of other sites getting tens of millions of visitors.
02:07:08.000And people aren't talking about liberal or conservative anymore.
02:07:10.000They're talking about global corporations, globalism, how our society is being controlled.
02:07:15.000And I'm really honored to be joined by two men who have been on the front line of the alternative media.
02:07:21.000And Alan Pogue now joins us in studio.
02:07:25.000And I really can't do justice to all the things that Alan has done.
02:07:28.000He's a photojournalist, combat journalist, photo documentarian.
02:07:33.000He heads up an organization here in Texas and just takes some of the frankly most amazing photos I've seen.
02:07:40.000He's been in all these different dangerous war zones and he'll be with us for the balance Well, I guess the next 50 minutes that we have left, and of course we'll open the phones up later to take your calls, but he's here to personalize it and talk about his experiences in warfare, his experiences in Vietnam, his experiences covering things in Iraq and other areas, and some of his eyewitness accounts, and then bounce those ideas off back and forth with Don Darling and myself.
02:08:06.000And again, I'm so honored to have both of these men here, because patriotism is standing up for the founding documents.
02:08:12.000It's for standing up for the country and the people.
02:08:14.000And I will repeat what I said at the beginning of the last hour.
02:08:42.000So it's not even really hidden anymore.
02:08:44.000Alan Pogue, thank you so much for coming in today.
02:08:47.000I'm glad to be here and talk about all this.
02:08:49.000I think the best way to do this is just to tell us about Alan Pogue and your journey of awakening and basically what your view of the war is right now and what you personally have viewed and any of the websites or news sites where we can see some of your amazing photos.
02:09:04.000Well, I started off, I was a chaplain's assistant in Vietnam in 1967.
02:09:11.000But how I got to be a chaplain's assistant is that I was an altar boy in the Catholic Church for 13 years.
02:09:18.000And so I used to go to the chapel to read philosophy books when I was at Fort Carson, Colorado.
02:09:22.000And this captain chaplain came up to me and asked me to be his assistant.
02:10:21.000And if we're going to go to Vietnam and save the Vietnamese people for democracy and this and that, we couldn't act the way we're acting.
02:10:30.000So there was a huge, huge difference between What I was told the war was about and what is actually going on, and this has happened to a lot of soldiers, a lot of people besides myself.
02:10:41.000They just say, well, this isn't right.
02:10:44.000But our educational system, our educational system doesn't teach us to be critical thinkers, and it doesn't give us the alternative view that's going to allow us to critique our culture and our government.
02:10:57.000We're taught just to believe, just believe that everything is just fine.
02:11:01.000Isn't that similar to the Nazis or the Soviets when they were doing all these horrible things?
02:11:05.000Oh, we're doing it because they're terrorists.
02:11:10.000I've talked to friends and family and folks who were helicopter pilots in Vietnam and they say that scene in Full Metal Jacket where they're flying out of the front And the guy's shooting women, children, water buffalos.
02:11:22.000And one of the Marines says, you know, how do you do it?
02:11:49.000Right now, as they pull back with the ground troops to intensify the air war.
02:11:55.000And so we're just bombing cities, bombing neighborhoods.
02:12:00.000Yeah, we're supposedly bringing them all this freedom.
02:12:01.000Meanwhile, it turns out every newspaper is fake, with CIA statisticians and PR firms hired, writing fake news articles, and they're telling us how it's all free.
02:12:11.000And now it's in such civil war, they've retreated to citadels and armed keeps.
02:12:15.000Totally lost control, and they're just randomly, and there's no such thing as precision in these built up areas, with the mount areas, they're just bombing everything to pieces.
02:12:24.000Well, for instance, they're using white phosphorus rounds.
02:13:23.000So then you have the ground littered with these beer can sized bomblets that any kid can pick up and blow themselves up.
02:13:31.000Well, you know, I talk to troops that come back.
02:13:33.000I've talked to WNBTs, many others, and they realize how serious it is.
02:13:37.000I mean, I've talked to Marine Corps captains who break down and cry on the show because, you know, of little babies dying in their arms.
02:13:44.000But then there's these armchair quarterbacks.
02:13:46.000And these guys, you can tell, they're not tough guys.
02:13:49.000They love to talk, they love to strut around.
02:13:51.000You see them strutting down stores with a big case of beer, W stickers all over their car, swaggering around.
02:13:56.000You talk to them, I won't kill every one of them A-Reds, let's nuke them.
02:14:01.000But if we're bringing them freedom, let's just kill them.
02:14:03.000What do you want to say to the people that just have a mindless bloodlust but have never walked around in children's brains?
02:14:09.000I think they'd be puking their guts up if they were around rotting corpses of dead children, as you have been.
02:14:14.000Yes, and I wish they could walk through wards full of children, babies really, just a few months old, maybe a year old or two old, dying of leukemia.
02:14:24.000They're dying of leukemia because they've been inhaling and ingesting depleted uranium, which is another huge factor.
02:14:31.000They're not human, they deserve to die.
02:14:44.000We've got to get them before they come get us.
02:14:46.000But then all the assessments show this is actually increasing real terrorism.
02:14:51.000Well, when your brothers and your sisters all get killed, and another thing, when your economy is in the dirt, and there's no hope, and there's no horizon, there's no future, And you can see who's creating the situation.
02:15:30.000If none of these Arabs are even capable of loving democracy and all of this stuff, Well then, that's no reason either, because they said after there were no weapons of mass destruction found, then it was to get rid of Saddam.
02:15:44.000Well, we got rid of Saddam, and so what have we got?
02:15:58.000I mean, people forget we were killing 5,000 a month from 1991 to 19... oh, until 2003.
02:16:05.000And now that's all accelerated, but the first official act by Bremer was to not let any statistics of cancer, deaths, automobile accidents, all the official numbers that even third world countries keep, that's not allowed to be released now.
02:16:18.000I talked to a woman Iraqi doctor when I was in Kuwait.
02:16:21.000And she said that if any doctor released information like that, they'd find themselves herding sheep in the desert.
02:17:23.000And I think that's the bedrock of it all.
02:17:26.000Now we're sold a lot of propaganda and a lot of division.
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02:22:40.000Well, I was in Haiti, just after Aristide was kidnapped and dumped in the Central African Republic.
02:22:47.000With Special Forces soldiers guarding his replacement, and it was on TV!
02:22:51.000And I went there, and I went to Cap-Haitien, which is the northwestern city, the second largest, And I spoke with the French troops that were in charge, because this was a French-American operation.
02:23:02.000They were totally together on getting rid of Aristide.
02:23:07.000And I talked to the French commander, and I said, well, what about these rebel soldiers, you know, we hear about?
02:23:11.000And he told me, to my face, there are no more rebel soldiers.
02:23:16.000And, of course, I asked him, this question was a setup, because I knew that there were.
02:23:20.000I said, oh, as a matter of fact, I just saw and photographed 130 heavily armed rebel soldiers in the middle of Capation at 22 OP Street and you can go over and talk to them right now if you want to.
02:23:35.000He says no, we have no intention of talking to these so-called rebels and we have no intention of disarming them.
02:23:44.000So what the United States forces and the French forces were doing were enabling the rebels.
02:23:49.000Oh yeah, they go hire the rebels or fund them and then say, oh look, rebels have taken over, we've got to go deal with it.
02:23:56.000I mean, it's the same story, problem, reaction, solution, CIA overthrows time and time and time again.
02:24:04.000But the main thing about these rebels is they were kidnapping people, mostly government officials, but also I talked to a high school principal they had kidnapped.
02:24:13.000Well, they put 27 people into a shipping container and tossed it into the ocean.
02:24:18.000And they had the principal of the high school and they said if they can't come up with the ransom, they're going to kill him.
02:24:23.000So his teacher's association had to come up with the money to spring the principal.
02:24:28.000Now this is under, not under the noses of the French military, this is the French military not giving a damn.
02:24:50.000They sent millions of dollars into Haiti to organize opposition, to create what they call the Democratic Convergence, which was really what they call the Group of 184, 184 factory owners, under the leadership of Andy Apade.
02:26:18.000When I was just in New Orleans, the progress of helping people has been so painfully slow.
02:26:28.000What I saw was that spontaneous groups, a group called Common Ground, sprung up almost immediately and with the help of Veterans for Peace.
02:26:36.000Uh... who brought all of their supplies from Crawford, Texas when that shut down.
02:26:42.000They just drove it all to New Orleans and gave it all to the common ground people.
02:26:58.000Well, they're continuing to do it, but the problem is Well, where are the massive supplies from FEMA?
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02:30:39.000800-345-8376 That's 800-345-8376 Well, we've got Alan Pogue in studio with us and also we've got Mr. Darling, Don Darling both great Austinites Thank you. .
02:31:05.000Continuing with our discussion, your calls are coming up 1-800-259-9231 if it's about the war, if it's about the upcoming war with Iran, if it's about Bush declaring himself emperor, and that's openly now being written about, not just by us in the alternative news, but it's a big discussion.
02:31:20.000Now, the torture camps, all of it, but I've just got a few bullet point questions for both of you gentlemen.
02:31:28.000First off, though, let's plug some things.
02:31:30.000Veteransforpeace.org There's Alan Pogue's website, which is excellent.
02:31:35.000Go look at these incredible photos from all over the world of the carnage, the reality, and it's documentaryphotos.com.
02:33:31.000Whenever I go down to UT's psychology department or engineering, getting a tour or whatever, I got friends down there.
02:33:37.000They'll have on the door of each laboratory, you know, where it's professors, not even classes.
02:33:40.000And that's, most of it's just professors working for the government.
02:33:43.000They're not even teaching students, young people.
02:33:45.000And in the psychology department, it was DARPA, DARPA, DARPA, DARPA, defense department, just for psychology.
02:33:51.000And I said to the guy who works up there, I said, he said, oh yeah, most of it is government and most of that is defense department.
02:33:57.000And, and right there is they control everything that's being said and done because they control all the research.
02:34:02.000Well, that's like USAID going to countries and saying, here, would you like to borrow this money?
02:34:08.000And then once they borrow it, then they tell them who they can loan it to.
02:34:11.000Well, you can't loan it to these people.
02:34:13.000Well, they say, you've got to hire Halliburton to run your water system, and then they rip everybody off.
02:34:18.000And so that's how they control politics, by controlling the money.
02:34:22.000Then they take aid money and give it to themselves.
02:34:24.000This foreign aid, most of it's going right back to select global corporations.
02:34:28.000Well, yes, if they have to buy the products, and have to buy them from American manufacturers, or at least those who they're directed to buy it from.
02:34:36.000And that was true of Iraq, as the best example.
02:34:41.000You know, you can't, they're getting people from Sri Lanka to come and work in Iraq.
02:34:47.000The 22 million Iraqis, they don't need people from Sri Lanka.
02:34:50.000You know, but they can abuse them even more.
02:34:54.000I mean, it's just like here, the Bracero Program.
02:34:56.000They're trying to reintroduce that, you know.
02:34:58.000On the one hand, they're saying, we want to close the borders, we want to build these iron fences.
02:35:03.000On the other hand, they say, no, we want to bring in immigrant labor.
02:35:05.000Yeah, really what they're going to do is legalize it, and then just basically control it.
02:35:12.000It's a total legalization, that's what's That's what's happening.
02:35:15.000In fact, I've talked to police that have been told this, and I've read the federal documents.
02:36:37.000Tell us some of the horrors, and the photographs are on your website, but tell us some of the horrors that you have personally witnessed with these families in different countries that you've photographed.
02:36:47.000Well, most of the horrors that I've seen were either imposed neglect.
02:36:53.000so that people don't have food, they don't have medicine, they can't have access to medical care.
02:37:05.000We see that the United States knew exactly what would happen when they bombed the sewage treatment plants and water treatment plants of Iraq.
02:37:16.000They knew they projected 170,000 deaths in the first year.
02:37:36.000And then in Vietnam, well, where to start?
02:37:39.000I mean, anything from mindlessly shooting someone's water buffalo, which is the center of their personal economy, and dropping all the Asian orange on them.
02:37:50.000And that's the other good example of dropping Asian orange on the Vietnamese, but you're dropping it on your own soldiers.
02:37:59.000And then in the same, they denied compensation to U.S. soldiers that were hurt by Asian orange, and they're denying compensation to psychological effects now.
02:38:21.000Well, I've talked to the Marines in In Haiti, and the sad thing is, these guys, just like in Vietnam, they don't know why they're there, they don't know what they're doing.
02:38:47.000You go to the prison, they won't say who's there.
02:38:49.000You know, they claim that it's a Haitian prison.
02:38:51.000You go inside, and there's a Marine with his shirt off, sitting at the desk, calling the shots, running the prison, and the Haitian military are just there to take orders.
02:39:02.000And that guy's going to come back here and be a cop.
02:39:09.000Well, that attitude... What about it coming home?
02:39:11.000Because I'm sure you've heard, you guys are tuned in, mainstream news articles about camps, Senate chairmen saying we need to start arresting fifth columnists who are against the war, they're really all, these peace people are really all Al-Qaeda, Bush saying he's above the law, we can torture children.
02:39:26.000I mean, I'm sure you've been hearing all this.
02:40:37.000When Alberto Gonzalez says in front of the Senate, I don't apologize for torture, and we're above the law, the President is the law, if we say it isn't torture, then it isn't torture.
02:40:48.000I mean, it's getting crazier and crazier and crazier, and it seems like on purpose they're trying to change our moral compass and tell us that Open, deep, dark stuff that Joseph Mingala did secretly in underground laboratories, we just announce from the rooftops and say it's mom and apple pie and torturing small children.
02:41:06.000Mom, apple pie, torturing small children.
02:41:11.000Well, about torture, I'm very much against torturing of people.
02:41:17.000I don't think it gets the results that they say it gets.
02:41:24.000Made 13 special operations in submarines.
02:41:28.000I stood a chance of becoming a prisoner of war and being tortured, and I really resent it now that we are torturing people in Iraq and wherever we are.
02:41:46.000Because the real information was there.
02:41:49.000I mean, people were warning about the attacks on the Twin Towers.
02:41:52.000People, you know, the guys that flew the planes, some of them were trained in military bases.
02:41:57.000Oh, accidentally, the Dean of the Defense Language School went public and said the government did it.
02:42:03.000Then I called him and I said, what do you mean?
02:42:05.000And his wife's like, get off the phone, you've been told not to talk.
02:42:07.000Now, he told the San Jose Mercury News, the government quote, did it.
02:42:12.000He didn't say we were forced to train them.
02:42:14.000Why are the, oh yeah, that was four years ago.
02:42:31.000We now know they thought they were taking part in drills.
02:42:34.000And even one of the supposed stewardess phone calls, you believe cell phones work at that height, said, I can't breathe, something's in the cabin.
02:42:40.000What I got from the Pentagon before the drills came out, before any of this happened, from one of my sources, is they put those guys on as part of a drill, nerve gas was released, then someone remote controlled them into the towers.
02:42:49.000Now, then you look at all the evidence.
02:42:52.000The exact same drills that day, the exact same thing happening.
02:42:55.000Sorry to digress, I just... But the point of all that to me is, The reason for trying to get Google to hand over everybody's web searches... Hidden for porn.
02:43:17.000Because the real information, the stuff that would stop terrorists, you don't get it that way.
02:43:23.000And as a matter of fact, as you point out, all of the markers that would have led any really good investigator to stop some of these actions, they were all there Well, it's like Abel Danger.
02:43:35.000Bush signed an order ordering the FBI and Defense Intel not to stop the quote hijackers.
02:43:40.000And so you have to think, it's just like the torture thing.
02:43:44.000It's just simply desiring the ability to create more terror.
02:43:51.000That's the schizophrenia or the dual personality.
02:43:55.000Saddam's bad, we claim he tortures, but then we're going to go set up actual rape rooms and it's okay.
02:44:01.000Well, in Iraq, of course, the United States has sold him all of the nerve gas, the anthrax, the botulism.
02:44:09.000And not only that, we supplied him with 60 intelligence officers and the aerial satellite information to know exactly where to use it.
02:44:16.000And when he did use it, that was everyone celebrated.
02:44:20.000And so now they come back years later and say, oh, we've never been at war with East Asia.
02:44:25.000Tomorrow, we've always been at war with East Asia.
02:44:28.000Don, darling, I mean, Alan's making incredibly important points here.
02:44:32.000The question is, can the general public, some of them out there, interface with this?
02:44:35.000Because we're told patriotism Is mindlessly just sticking a yellow ribbon on your car, not caring if the troops' kids are deformed, not caring if the troops are bleeding to death, not caring if their body armor is deficient, not caring if they're getting charged for their own meals in the hospital with their, you know, quad amputees, paying for their own meals, paying for their own flights back, paying for their own nurse to clean their poop bag.
02:44:55.000All of this is going on before they even get back here.
02:44:57.000The troops have never been cut loose like this before.
02:46:03.000I mean, I really think sunlight is the best disinfectant, but we've got to be ready for the government to carry out a big terror attack and bring in martial law.
02:46:12.000I mean, even Bob Woodward told the San Antonio Express News that last week.
02:46:15.000He said, one more big attack and we're going to have a dictatorship.
02:46:19.000So people really have to get on the grassroots level.
02:46:22.000When I go out and photograph all over the world, I go usually because I've been asked by a group, a peace group, an organization, and I go to photograph those people who are doing something to alleviate the problem that I'm photographing.
02:46:37.000We got Darja Maul coming on tomorrow, so we need those communities.
02:46:41.000We need people really on the grassroots level because either we are the government or we're not.
02:46:47.000I mean, you can't just vote every year or two years or four years.
02:46:52.000You have to be in on who gets to be the candidate.
02:46:56.000And sometimes you have to be the candidate.
02:46:59.000I think a very good model for this kind of thing is something called the Industrial Areas Foundation.
02:47:05.000And here in Texas, it's run by Ernie Cortez.
02:47:08.000And the model is, you go into, and this is basically a church-based operation, you go into a church, because a church is an organization, and it's a geographical organization, and you say, what are the problems that you have in your own geographical area?
02:47:55.000In San Antonio, the banks wouldn't lend in the West San Antonio where it's poor.
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02:53:07.000We have to get out here and get active now, because I have people from the Iraqi community that I talk to know about how Saddam got into power by our government.
02:55:39.000All right, gentlemen, I want to thank you both for coming in studio today, and thank you both for joining us.
02:55:45.000Alan Pogue, a combat journalist, a documentary photographer, and, of course, Mr. Darling, Don Darling, a Navy veteran, worked in nuclear submarines, and, of course, commanded a Navy rescue ship, Navy diver, here exposing the whole globalist scheme.