Alex Jones in studio with George Humphrey, director of the new film "Martial Law 9: Rise of Martial Law" and author of the book "Rx Pills: The Truth About Big Pharma and the War on Drugs" and more!
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:40.000Thank you so much for joining me today.
00:00:42.000It is already Friday, the 10th day of March 2006.
00:00:47.000We have a lot of big guests joining us.
00:00:51.000We have the Emmy Award winning director of a new film concerning what the pharmaceutical companies are dishing out to our young people, our children and adults alike.
00:01:02.000And the epidemic of suicide and psychotic breaks and major problems and havoc that this is a rain down upon us.
00:01:10.000He'll be in studio with another lady who has put out a new book exposing what happens inside Big Pharma at the sales level.
00:01:20.000And it's the confessions of one of these RX pushers.
00:01:27.000They'll be in studio together in the second hour.
00:01:31.000Then, in the third hour, former City Council member, author, documentary filmmaker, anti-New World Order crusader, George Humphrey, will be joining us in studio as well.
00:01:42.000Another Austinite engaged in the fight against the NWO and will be videotaping all of these interviews today and putting them up on PrisonPlanet.tv for members.
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00:02:27.000A lot of news out of depleted uranium.
00:02:29.000I've got a report here about a March 8th 2006 edition of CNN American Morning Program where Miles O'Brien said, made the startling announcement saying that there's been a massive increase in lung cancer faster than the growth of all the other cancers in the last year.
00:02:48.000It's directly linked, of course, to depleted uranium, so I want to spend some time on that.
00:02:53.000I'm sure all of you already know that Dubai Port's world Has supposedly, at least on the surface, pulled out of the deal to take over 21 U.S.
00:03:11.000The globalists rarely, when they're getting beaten publicly, actually stop their activities.
00:03:17.000They just claim they've lost, and claim they've given up, and then engage in their sneak attacks.
00:03:25.000And by, well, an example is a few days ago they claimed, oh, the Patriot Act got restricted, big victory for civil libertarians, and then it turns out But they radically expanded it, but so many people who were fighting the Patriot Act are now having celebrations and feeling good and everything's wonderful when the exact opposite has taken place.
00:03:50.000So, we'll get into that in detail when we get back as well.
00:03:56.000And then I want to get into some of the attacks on free speech here in the United States and in Europe.
00:04:04.000Neocons are now leaving the sinking ship, at least on the surface.
00:04:08.000Neocon allies desert Bush over Iraq, and we've got Francis Fokyama, Richard Perle, William Buckley Jr., George Will, Andrew Sullivan, and many others now basically deserting Bush and saying that Iraq is a lost cause, a lost war.
00:04:32.000Of course, you can read their own documents.
00:04:34.000They meant to do that from the start, but now they'll play the part of losers, just like Bush is playing the part of a loser on the Dubai Ports deal.
00:04:42.000The exact opposite, of course, is the case.
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00:08:08.000Well, we're all hearing that Dubai Ports we're all hearing that Dubai Ports World has backed off the deal and it's a total lie as it always is.
00:09:42.000Here's Francis Fukuyama, author and long-term advocate of toppling Saddam.
00:09:50.000By invading Iraq, the Bush administration created a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:09:56.000Iraq has now replaced Afghanistan is a magnet, a training ground, and an operational base for jihadists with plenty of American targets to shoot at.
00:10:07.000And that's author and long-term advocate of toppling Saddam.
00:10:10.000Here's Richard Perle, arch warmonger and pivotal Republican hawk.
00:10:16.000Quote, the military campaign and its political aftermath were both passionately debated within the Bush administration.
00:10:24.000It got the war right and the aftermath wrong.
00:10:26.000We should have understood that we needed Iraqi partners.
00:10:32.000Andrew Sullivan, prominent commentator and influential blogger.
00:10:36.000The world has learned a tough lesson and it has been a lot tougher for those tens of thousands of dead innocent Iraqis.
00:10:43.000Try a hundred thousand in the last three years than a few humiliated pundits.
00:10:50.000The world has learned a tough lesson and it has been a lot tougher for those tens of thousands of dead innocent Iraqis than for a few humiliated pundits like yourself, scumbag.
00:11:00.000The correct response is not more spin, but a sense of shame and sorrow.
00:11:53.000They have had an unbelievable victory.
00:11:56.000A sterling, shocking, total victory as usual.
00:12:04.000You're going, what are you talking about?
00:12:05.000Well, we heard that the war on drugs has failed, but it has roughly now, I kept saying double in size, that's numbers from three years ago, it has now quadrupled.
00:12:18.000Okay, it took 10 years to double and in the last three it increased again so we've had a quadrupling of the funding that it was back in 1993 when Bill Clinton came into office and now 13 years later we have a quadrupling.
00:12:40.000You go, Alex, what does that have to do with Iraq?
00:13:08.000Six times the heroin and opiates on the streets of the United States, even more than a six-fold increase in Europe, And, uh, because of the Afghanistan bumper increase.
00:13:22.000And, uh, more than a doubling in the cocaine.
00:13:50.000How about millions of people working for an average of 20 cents an hour?
00:13:53.000The big drug dealing cartels openly running the prisons.
00:13:56.000That's right, the big families that control the drug trade, the Bush's and others.
00:14:00.000You know the Bush's own whole private prison companies themselves?
00:14:02.000These people are in the hundreds of billions.
00:14:05.000Of course, you read the local parade magazine every year and it tells them they're worth a few million.
00:14:10.000They own triple whole super tankers, whole oil companies, whole giant stock portfolios in Lockheed Martin and Carlyle, and the second biggest shareholders next to the Queen of England and Carlyle.
00:14:23.000So the war on drugs is a massive success to the globalists.
00:14:28.000On paper, publicly, it's a huge failure for what they publicly claim its aim is, to stop drugs, to stop crime, to lock up the drug dealers, to keep our children safe.
00:14:43.000So their public reasons for it are complete failure.
00:14:47.000Their true stated think tank goal Are a smashing, crowning, flying colors...
00:14:56.00021 guns salute, hail to the chief, great job!
00:15:00.000More ODs, more houses being broken into, more drugs, giant sprawling prisons, corrupt cops everywhere, wearing black ski masks, raiding houses in the middle of the night.
00:15:10.000And meanwhile, the same drug dealing cartel families, the big banking families, openly own the controlling stock in Big Pharma, which has got 15% of our children on drugs whose molecules are more dangerous, scientific studies show.
00:15:25.000Not their fancy dandy names, are more deadly than heroin, cocaine, PCP.
00:15:31.000Oh yes, oh yes, and especially the way they're being used long term.
00:15:36.000So understand, they're slinging and pushing and driving and forcing millions on it, and adults are going on it, and they got half the advertisement in magazines and on the nightly news, literally, I checked it out, half of it.
00:15:48.000I could see it, watching it, but then I went and looked at some studies on it.
00:15:51.000Just type into Google, advertising ratios, advertising study, pharmacological ads, TV news.
00:15:57.000You'll get that in most cases they've got about 54% of the ads now.
00:16:00.000Just tune in tonight and see it for yourself or go read the study.
00:16:03.000But I didn't just trust what my instincts and what my assessment was, I went and looked it up.
00:17:20.000Just like Prohibition was a great victory, it was actually the big boozers, the big companies, distilleries up in Canada and others, that actually lobbied for that, through their little front groups, the Prohibitionists, who got that enacted for nine and a half years, and the drug gangs, the organized crime crippled, the police forces crippled, the BATF got radically expanded, And they corrupted our police forces because they were on the payroll.
00:18:14.000No, the NEOCON said in PNAC documents, they said in RAMD documents, corporation, They said in their own published books, they stated in policy reports, they stated in P-2-O-G, all public, that they wanted to have a civil war and the country broken into three or four parts.
00:18:32.000We have Israeli battle plans on this from 1983, saying they'd have the U.S.
00:18:36.000invade and break it up, then have kind of fortress citadels that just control the major pipelines, and they wanted to put Iraq back into the Stone Age and engage in basically ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Arabs in that area with the cover of it being an endless civil war.
00:18:51.000And then you can go back to 1815, 1820 and read the British documents, mainstream British newspapers saying that was the strategy of tension and in a way they tried to control Iraq doing the exact same thing and they did fail after about ten years.
00:19:05.000But see, failing is winning because war is a black hole to corrupt military, corrupt the population, have a domestic issue to tell everybody to shut up, we're in a war and you can give hundreds of billions a year of no-bid contracts to your buddies And, uh, you can also grab all those trillions in oil.
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00:24:23.000He's a producer, director, and writer.
00:24:25.000He's over 10 years in the television film industry, and he's won quite a few Emmys, and he's produced a new film, Prescription Suicide.
00:24:36.000In fact, we'll be playing the audio of that video trailer a little bit later, and joining us in studio as well will be Glenn Olson, Confessions of an Rx Drug Pusher, God's Called Loving Arms.
00:25:11.000I mean, just the telephone interviews we do with activists and journalists and combat journalists, and these are the people we're just Finding out about online or doing research.
00:25:20.000We're looking for other people around the country.
00:25:23.000And there are, of course, great folks everywhere.
00:25:24.000But Texas, so often, and a lot of evil comes from this state as well.
00:25:29.000I don't know what's going on with this state, but it does seem to be pivotal at a certain level.
00:25:38.000But instead of doing a big ten-minute diatribe like I did last segment about why we're, quote, losing the drug war, why we're losing the Iraq war, and these neocons leaving the sinking ship, And saying, oh, we were wrong, we failed, we've lost, oh, the UN's got to come in and take over, only they can fix it.
00:25:54.000I said two years before the war, this is exactly what would happen.
00:26:00.000They do this over and over and over again, and they said this is what they would do.
00:26:07.000And so basically, the globalists just keep control of the resources, Deindustrialize the country, knock it back into the Stone Age, and then just build some armored fortresses that they keep 50,000 US troops in, in the quote, troop pull-down, and then move those into other countries, and we're there forever, like our troops are in 160 plus other nations.
00:26:27.000Then getting killed, but it's all just kind of back-burner.
00:26:30.000Ah, two or three more Crips died today.
00:26:34.000We got to help those poor ignorant savages.
00:26:37.000Meanwhile, our government's running around blowing things up.
00:26:39.000Every time the Sunnis and Shiites aren't killing each other, they just go bomb a mosque or go shoot some Iraqi policemen and blame it on their enemies.
00:26:46.000And they've been caught over and over doing this.
00:27:32.000Oh, the Republicans really punished Bill Clinton.
00:27:34.000Then Bill Clinton's vacationing with the people that impeached him and it turns out they were always in business together and had meetings back when Clinton was in college and they just hired him as an actor.
00:27:44.000As an intelligence agency, that's what most intelligence operatives in the field are, is actors.
00:27:49.000And he's just been playing a part, like Tony Blair being MI6.
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00:33:46.000I guess it's kind of like that New York windshield repair shop where the owner would go out for years and bust people's windows out with a hammer.
00:33:54.000Then they'd come to him for the repairs.
00:34:33.000It could happen any time in the next two and a half hours.
00:34:36.000So stay with us, because we had a little update from him last week, but I didn't have as much time with him as I wanted to, because in between committee meetings, he had a conflict scheduling problem.
00:34:45.000And so we're supposedly having a longer interview today, but then that got kind of conflicted with the other guests.
00:34:51.000So many great guests, so little time, my friends.
00:34:56.000But let me just right now go ahead and get into what's really happening.
00:35:05.000What's really going on concerning the ports.
00:35:09.000You've heard that last night Dubai Ports World, based in the United Arab Emirates, pulled out of the deal, and the Sheikh, the king, the head of the country, said, told the Financial Times of London, and these articles are all up on the sites, Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, he said, it's because Bush doesn't control Washington anymore, and he's basically a pathetic weasel, You know, this powerless no-one.
00:35:39.000Well, he's not a good dictator anymore.
00:35:41.000Go read it for yourself, Financial Times of London.
00:35:44.000And because that's happening, they're pulling out of the port deal because they know it's not going to happen.
00:35:51.000Now, when I read that last night, I went, wait a minute.
00:35:53.000I remember two weeks ago, I heard that Halliburton might take it over.
00:35:58.000And from the beginning, Halliburton was in negotiations to be a holding company.
00:36:47.000And they're involved in just every sort of nefarious activity you can imagine.
00:36:51.000And so we'd already heard that they were probably going to come in and be the quote, management company, or one of the people they're going to contract with.
00:36:57.000So this was already in the pipeline, pun intended.
00:37:03.000And a writer, Cheryl Seal, has put it together nicely.
00:37:16.000We're going to do our own story on this.
00:37:18.000So we are all supposed to click our heels, grin and give Bush a big thumbs up in the next approval poll because he tossed out a bogus bone.
00:37:39.000DPW is only turning operations over to an American holding company.
00:37:44.000They are still the guys behind the curtain.
00:37:47.000They will still have their employees in place.
00:37:49.000This smells very much like a backroom deal worked out by Bush and his pals in Dubai, UAE, just Let them think they won.
00:37:59.000Meanwhile, it'll be the same company, different name on the door.
00:38:03.000AP, which the writer says stands for American Propaganda, and Reuters, which stands for Neocon News, both immediately cranked out misleading stories with even more misleading headlines to aid Bush.
00:38:16.000Their build was quickly picked up and smeared around the world.
00:39:22.000In what could be a last-ditch effort to salvage its deal to operate East and Gulf ports in the U.S., DP World told Congress that it would agree to transfer control to a U.S.
00:39:30.000In a statement, first right on the floor of the U.S.
00:39:49.000Senate by Virginia Republican John Warner, D.P.
00:39:57.000To preserve the strong relationship between the U.S.
00:40:00.000and UAE, but in fact it sounds especially like a device carefully crafted by DP World's huge team of lobbyists and lawyers to salvage the deal in some fashion.
00:40:09.000The new entity is supposed to have an American board of American managers, but the ownership will still be questionable.
00:40:15.000Well, it's an American who's number two at the company who's about to be put in as head of all port security in the Maritime Administration.
00:40:24.000And it's still the deal going through was signed off on by Mr. Snow, Treasury Secretary, who's also chairman of the federal board, that illegally waived the 45-day National Security Review and illegally was in a massive conflict of interest, taking $1.15 that illegally waived the 45-day National Security Review and illegally was in a massive conflict of interest, taking You understand, just a year and a half ago, he was in a business field with them selling off U.S.
00:40:59.000And then a year and a half later he's on the board, signs off on it.
00:41:05.000In fact, it's less than a year and a half later, because they signed off on this, what, eight months ago, and then the deal was just going to go through last Tuesday, so we heard about it a few weeks before that.
00:41:14.000So I guess it's really about a little over a year.
00:41:17.000I mean, he's on the Treasury Department doing deals for millions of bucks and tens of millions personally.
00:43:23.000In July of 1999, 9-11 hijacker Muhammad Atta first came to the United States by plane.
00:43:31.000Also in July of 1999, the West Nile virus appeared in New York City, and it's my belief that that piece of garbage brought that over with him and unleashed it to New York.
00:43:41.000And I think, and so he works for the Arabs, right?
00:43:45.000Yeah, yeah, so that Giuliani could set up the World Trade Center Command Center in case of biological attack.
00:43:53.000See, I brought the West Nile virus with him and unleashed it so that Julianne could... Tell us more.
00:43:58.000Tell us what you portend from the tea leaves of Nostradamus.
00:44:09.000Oh, he was just a prophet back in, I think, the 1500s.
00:44:15.000And he said that in July of 1999, King Uttara would come from the sky.
00:44:20.000And that's when Mohammed Adda, the piece of garbage, came over, the 9-11 lead hijacker, and he brought with him the West Nile virus and he unleashed it.
00:44:29.000And that's what I believe Nostradamus is talking about when he said the king of terror would come from the sky.
00:44:57.000I know I'm in a fight for my life, and I want you to know you're in a fight for your life.
00:45:01.000Your life, your liberty, your pursuit of happiness, your very existence.
00:45:05.000A psychopathic, Nazi-like, eugenics-pushing, Malthusian, social-Darwinistic wrecking crew Number one, I don't believe in Nostradamus and what he had to say.
00:48:54.000I had seen how the government had bombed the World Trade Center before.
00:48:57.000And so you start to see it's not really that hard to do.
00:49:02.000What's hard to do is to just make very few predictions and have all those come correct, which mine have, instead of just making a thousand predictions and a few come true.
00:49:11.000So you don't get it out of crystal balls.
00:49:12.000You get it out of research, out of discernment, and out of asking God to give you discernment.
00:49:21.000Now I forget the exact verse in what got ignored by the counterfeit of Nostradamus was in The final book of the Bible, Revelation, it said, to paraphrase, in the great port city of the New Babylon, the great towers will fall, they'll be covered with dust, and sea captains will say, Babylon is burning, that great center of commerce, and it will have been the place of the trade, the towers of the trade.
00:50:00.000That's the thing people do for Nostradamus, is they write fake quatrains, put it on a message board, and it's top news everywhere, even on CNN, taking it serious.
00:50:40.000And I know we had loaded phones and I just spent 10 minutes on that because that caller just... Sir, get into real issues instead of just that idiot Nostradamus, the prophet Nostradamus.
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00:55:22.000Again, the evidence shows Halliburton from the beginning was going to be the holding company.
00:55:31.000So this was some type of fallback plan.
00:55:33.000It may have even been some type of primitive psychological Warfare operation where it just increases hatred for Arabs in general or Persians on the eve of the build-up for the Iran war.
00:55:49.000And if you don't think that Bush and people of his ilk will, quote, take a political hit, overall to increase the fever pitch for war, you're gravely mistaken.
00:56:01.000We have their own policy reports where they talk about doing this.
00:56:06.000They're not in these positions of power for no reason.
00:56:10.000So we'll get more into that coming up in the third hour when former city council member and documentary filmmaker, also author George Humphreys, joins us here in studio as well.
00:56:20.000Let's go ahead and jam in another call before this hour ends.
00:56:48.000I could hear it right from the word go.
00:56:49.000Anyway, I was talking about this with my friends, and of course you nailed it before I could get to it.
00:56:54.000The Wheels Within Wheels, the Total Media Theater, the fake Dubai port sale.
00:56:58.000It was just, you know, I imagine them sitting around a table and they're, okay, we'll try to sell you the port, you know, and that will set up the media control coverage so we don't have to spend time on the Patriot Act.
00:57:09.000And then once everybody rallies around that and doesn't want it, we'll submit a bill to Congress that says we're against it.
00:57:16.000You know, on the way, this is really important, on the back of the bill to be against the port deal reauthorizes the Iraq war for another $80 billion.
00:57:42.000Clearly, we've now proven Halliburton was involved already, and as amazing as it is, it looks like they brought this out to be a political diversion and just create hatred of the Arabs yet again.
00:57:53.000That's the most obvious fiasco in our faces while they're trying to nuke Iran.
00:58:04.000They're saying they may use a whole bunch of mini-nukes, quote, super bunker busters, and already I've got a report here that lung cancer in the last three years is up six times, that's CNN, what it was previously.
00:58:19.000But it's not that there's all this depleted uranium in the air at eight times safe levels being picked up by detectors in Europe and the U.S.
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00:59:31.000We're now into the second hour of this worldwide broadcast, and my guests are here in the studio with me.
00:59:38.000Of course, one of them is Robert Mancero.
00:59:41.000He's a producer, director, writer of over ten years in the television film industry after spending three years at Disney Studios.
00:59:47.000He formed his own production company, Full Vision Productions, and Robert has been honored with... Well, instead of reading this long bio, Robert, tell us about yourself.
00:59:59.000I come from a commercial music video background, done a lot of extreme sports, and now into the documentary filmmaking avenue.
01:00:09.000So when you first got into TV, what did you do?
01:00:11.000When I first got into TV, I was basically a temp.
01:00:24.000And I worked there, worked my way up, became a junior production executive, worked under Katzenberg, was in charge of quite a few films in development, and just got tired of the whole corporate scene because I wanted to go out and make films.
01:01:19.000When I first was brought the project, I was first going to do it the mainstream way.
01:01:25.000I had access to whistleblowers and pharmaceutical companies.
01:01:29.000I had access to senators and all kinds of experts on the subject.
01:01:34.000And you know, that's been done so many times.
01:01:36.000And what I wanted to do was to take the whole issue and bring it down to a personal level.
01:01:41.000And these are the families, these are kids who lost their lives and some are still alive who are affected by these drugs.
01:01:48.000We also have somebody here with us riding shotgun today and that's Gwen Olsen, confessions of an Rx drug pusher.
01:01:55.000And God's call to loving arms and she's been on the inside and then had already gotten disillusioned gotten out of the system and then even after she'd already gotten out of the system then her niece died a just horrific death like so many others that have taken this drug and then we learned that even in the Testing of the drugs.
01:02:15.000It came out that they knew it radically increased suicidal tendencies.
01:02:20.000So we'll tell that story and talk about our book.
01:02:23.000But I just want to get this out now because we're about to break and then come back with a longer segment.
01:02:28.000Right now, tell us, Gwen Olsen and of course Robert as well, how we can go see this film tonight here in Austin, where it's showing, how we can see it, how we can check it out.
01:02:42.000The screening is going to take place at Unity Church of the Hills.
01:02:46.000It's 9905 Anderson Mill Road in Austin.
01:03:04.000At InfoWars.com we've got that posted for people.
01:03:07.000Gwen, we're about to break in 30 seconds, but when we get back, what are some of the issues you specifically want to talk about?
01:03:12.000I just want to talk about how prevalent this problem is and how it's been swept under the rug for so many years and the dangers that exist in taking these pharmaceuticals and giving them to our children.
01:03:27.000Alright folks, we're going to be right back after this quick break.
01:03:33.000Plus, almost 16% of American children are now on these drugs.
01:03:37.000It's the same number with adults, may even be trending higher.
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01:07:02.000Robert Manciro, he is an Emmy Award winning documentary filmmaker, a 1961 Best Director for a sports documentary series, and now he's gotten into, well, Making films about what prescription drugs are doing.
01:07:21.000He didn't really toot his horn in the last section.
01:07:25.000He has, of course, won awards and screened his films at the Cannes Film Festival for a film, Code Blue.
01:07:32.000And it just goes on and on, and I'm really excited that Full Vision Productions, and that's the website, FullVisionProductions.com, and his company is getting into really serious issues like the millions of our children and adults being ravaged by these psychotropic and amphetamine-type stimulant drugs.
01:07:51.000And the website is PrescriptionSuicide.com.
01:07:53.000In fact, I forgot to ask you this, John.
01:07:55.000Did you grab that trailer, the audio of it earlier?
01:08:21.000Tell us about your personal story, what happened to your niece, I heard you speak of how they tried to force her back on the drugs, and she was really doing well.
01:08:31.000It all started with a car wreck, and then I want to go through why you decided to write this book, and even your own personal experiences with these companies.
01:08:42.000Well, Alex, I was actually a pharmaceutical rep for over 15 years and I started my career in the industry with Johnson & Johnson with one of their subsidiaries, McNeil Pharmaceutical.
01:08:53.000And that is really where I got my education in psych drugs because I used to sell one of the older neuroleptics, Haldol.
01:09:00.000And I don't know if you're familiar with haloperidol, but that is a complete chemical lobotomy drug.
01:09:30.000Not only was I being educated by the pharmaceutical manufacturer about their perspective, I was seeing from a personal perspective what the drugs actually did to people in real life.
01:09:43.000I'm not going to say that I woke up one morning, you know, and said, oh wow, I'm in the wrong industry or whatever.
01:09:48.000It was a series of events over a period of years where I became more conscious about what was happening.
01:09:55.000I do believe there's a lot of people, just like I was in the pharmaceutical industry, that are very naive.
01:10:00.000They don't come with medical backgrounds.
01:10:02.000A lot of them are cheerleaders or very gregarious, good-looking women and young men that could actually be actors or I actually saw a report on that.
01:10:13.000Right out of high school, they're recruiting these really good-looking cheerleaders, and that's the core now, is the good-looking girl coming in.
01:10:20.000Hey, I've got some happy pills for you.
01:10:23.000That's right, and when I started in the industry in 1985, there really weren't that many women in the industry.
01:10:28.000So I was kind of breaking in, maybe, you know, a third of the population of the sales reps were women.
01:10:33.000And I was a former beauty queen, and so, you know, I think that was probably the profile that I fit.
01:10:38.000I wasn't a cheerleader, but, you know, intelligent, good-looking women is what they were looking for at the time because they worked harder, they got past more receptionists, they got to see more doctors, and they were paid less.
01:10:48.000So that was really a win-win situation for the manufacturer.
01:10:52.000But after a while, after I had been in the industry for a while, and I was primarily a specialist rep, so I received some extensive education, some higher education.
01:11:02.000I'd actually go through some of the programs, the preceptorships that doctors went through for their training.
01:11:09.000And as I started to compile that knowledge over the years, I started realizing, whoa, I'm not being told the whole story here.
01:11:16.000And they're not allowing me to say things.
01:11:18.000They're not allowing me to disclose things that should be disclosed for, you know, the benefit of the patient.
01:11:24.000It seemed to be, you know, the attitude that if a drug caused an adverse reaction, don't withdraw the drug from the patient, but add another drug to counteract, you know, the symptoms that they're now getting.
01:11:36.000So as I started seeing this thing happening, and as my consciousness began to evolve, I got very disillusioned.
01:11:43.000Not only did I get disillusioned, but I had several adverse drug reactions myself.
01:11:49.000You know, it was actually real life school for me.
01:11:52.000And one of my adverse reactions in 1992 was to Zoloft.
01:11:57.000I was put on Zoloft because I was becoming a little depressed and I was losing weight because I was going through a divorce.
01:12:04.000And obviously that's a time that, you know, you're not really happy.
01:12:08.000So when I went to visit my general practitioner just for a follow-up visit for migraine headaches, he recommended that since I had lost a little weight and was, you know, a little despondent, that he put me on an antidepressant.
01:12:19.000And I was 33 years old at the time and I had never taken any antidepressants and I didn't know because, I have to go back and say, if you haven't been trained, even pharmaceutical reps, if they haven't competed against that category of drug or if they haven't been trained about that category of drug, you can be just like everyone else and not have any knowledge about what they really do or how they really work.
01:14:17.000They just put them on and put them on and they finally die.
01:14:20.000And then, too bad, they've got to go find some more kids to do it to.
01:14:23.000But you've got the doctors, the reps, everyone's in denial because it's compartmentalized.
01:14:28.000It's a centralized group that's come up with this.
01:14:30.000Now, you're already out of the industry.
01:14:32.000Then this incredible devastation comes to your own family's life because your sister, and again, I'm not putting words in your mouth.
01:14:39.000I heard it on Jack Blood's show two days ago.
01:14:41.000He was gracious enough to give you us your contact info, both of you.
01:14:48.000Your sister basically believed their whole line and something terrible happened.
01:14:54.000Tell us about that and then I want to get back into this new film that's coming out about the subject.
01:14:58.000Well I had left the industry in 2000 extremely disillusioned and brain damaged myself actually from the drugs and decided that I would pursue a career in natural foods industry so I went to selling herbs and all that.
01:15:11.000Well I I was very interested in, you know, the natural foods industry, so I really hadn't investigated what had happened to me on the SSRIs, because when it happened in 1992, they were very new, so there wasn't that body of evidence and information that's now out there if you can get on any internet search engine and find something out about the SSRIs.
01:15:32.000But back then it was, you know, relatively new and there wasn't a whole lot of information unless you looked in medical journals and things like that.
01:15:40.000Back in the early 80s when they approved Prozac, it's admitted now, and this actually came out a long time ago, right around that time that you were working for them, but it was in a few publications, but not really publicly widely circulated, that they knew it radically increased suicide around 15%, which is a huge increase, and was actually a suicide drug.
01:16:25.000So I was very naive myself about all of this information as to what was going on with this SSRI scandal.
01:16:31.000So, in July of 2004, my niece, who at the time was a freshman at Indiana University, she was a pre-med student, former cheerleader, I mean, she was an honor student, honor graduate student, beautiful, beautiful young woman, she was in a car accident.
01:16:49.000And when she was trying to recover, they put her on very large doses of Vicodin, Hydrocodone, and Propoxyphene, Darvocet N-100.
01:16:59.000And she was on so many central nervous system depressants that she became depressed.
01:17:05.000And she also became addicted to the drugs.
01:17:08.000She told me she was taking between 8 to 10 Vicodin a day, and she weighed about 120 pounds.
01:17:13.000So she had a very serious hydrocodone addiction.
01:17:16.000And when she tried to withdraw from those drugs, she became even more depressed.
01:17:21.000And of course, if you look into the adverse reaction sections of any, you know, PI on this drug, you'll find that depression is very much a side effect of any kind of narcotic like that.
01:17:30.000Well, in fact, any doctor, any nurse knows that when someone's coming off of opiate-style drugs that they're going to get depressed.
01:17:54.000Initially she was put on Paxil and she reacted adversely to Paxil and after that they put her on Zoloft and following Zoloft she was put on Prozac and then ended up on Effexor XR which she took for about nine months.
01:18:09.000But Megan's situation, when she started reacting negatively to the drugs, she was diagnosed as being bipolar.
01:18:17.000And when they diagnosed her as being bipolar then that brought in a whole other cocktail of pharmaceuticals that they added the Depakote and Lamictal and she ended up at one point when I reviewed her pharmacy records that I got she got them for me before she died because I was actually trying to help her recover because this had happened to me so I knew what had happened and I was trying to tell my sister that my niece was having adverse reactions to all the drugs that she was on.
01:18:46.000She thought that you were getting in her business.
01:18:47.000We'll come back and finish up this horrid story and then talk more.
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01:23:30.000Got my wires crossed there, but we'll tell folks more about this, and I want to talk to Robert here in just a second.
01:23:36.000But this story of yourself, Gwen, and then what happened to your niece.
01:23:42.000In fact, in this film, there are two families from Austin who have lost children and loved ones through all of this.
01:23:51.000But Gwen, please continue with what ended up happening to your niece.
01:23:56.000Well, after my niece received a bipolar diagnosis and they put her on other pharmaceuticals, other restraining drugs, she tried to commit suicide on a couple of different occasions in a couple of different ways.
01:24:11.000And the last time she tried to overdose.
01:24:13.000And she took all of her Effexor, and she took three hits of Mescaline, and she took all of her Hydrocodone.
01:24:20.000Anyway, she ended up in the hospital, and when she was released, she had to come to be cared for by family members.
01:24:33.000And I started telling my sister as I was identifying that she was rapid cycling which is why she got the bipolar diagnosis.
01:24:41.000It's like the drugs will induce a bipolar state where a person will experience within 15 or 20 minute segments what a regular person who has a bipolar disorder would experience over a period of weeks or months.
01:24:54.000So she was actually going through this cycle of you know Teary eyes.
01:25:00.000Which, by the way, the drugs on insert say it does.
01:25:03.000And then she would get extremely depressed, and then she would hear command voices telling her to harm herself or to kill herself.
01:25:10.000And then she would go through a swing where she would get giddy, and she'd get extremely euphoric, and she'd be fine, and she'd be happy.
01:25:16.000And then here would come the tears again.
01:25:18.000And I told my sister, I said, she's having adverse reactions to these drugs, and the only way that she's going to get better is if we withdraw the pharmaceuticals and she starts to heal.
01:25:30.000So my niece had decided that she believed what I had said and that's when I started my investigation.
01:25:37.000And when I got into the information, I was mortified.
01:25:41.000I mean, here I had been in this industry for 15 years.
01:25:44.000Totally, I mean, I knew things were going on that I didn't approve of.
01:25:47.000And I knew that, you know, the standards in the industry were not as ethical as I thought they should be.
01:25:52.000But I didn't realize that there were these cover-ups taking place.
01:25:55.000Just like you said, the clinical data.
01:25:57.000When I got into the clinical data on these drugs, this information has been out there since Jump Street.
01:26:03.000Since they started the clinical trial.
01:26:06.000They knew day one that it screwed people up and made them worse.
01:26:46.000Anyway, my sister ...decided that she didn't believe that this had really happened to my niece, that I was influencing her by my personal experience, and that she really did have a mental problem, that she needed a brain defect, that she needed drugs.
01:27:04.000Even though I gave her all of the books, I gave her CDs, I gave her the information.
01:27:10.000And by the way, you never had problems.
01:27:23.000Yeah, I'll have problems, but no, we didn't have psychological problems to the degree that either of us were ever suicidal or that, you know, but there was a little depression going on because of familial things and dysfunction in the family, that sort of thing.
01:27:36.000But it wasn't something that would have caused this.
01:27:39.000Anyway, what my sister did was she told my niece, she called her and told her that she was going to have to go back on the drugs or she was going to have to return to Indiana.
01:27:52.000She tried to call me and tell me that her mother was coming to get her and the phone had been disconnected when I tried to call her back because my sister's phone had been disconnected.
01:28:03.000And I didn't get in touch with her, and my sister was on her way home to forcibly take her to the psychiatrist and put her back on drugs.
01:28:11.000And my niece first tried to hang herself.
01:28:14.000I'll tell you what, we've got a break.
01:28:16.000We'll come right back and finish up this horror story.
01:28:18.000But Gwen, as you know, I know why you're doing this.
01:28:20.000You're going to save lives today, telling this story.
01:28:23.000Because it's happened to so many Austinites, and I know personally, especially little girls.
01:28:27.000They target little girls with this stuff, young women.
01:28:30.000It's all part of the old Madison Avenue culture.
01:28:31.000They get depressed, you take some drugs, because you don't look like the supermodel, or it's hard to look like the supermodel, and then they end up killing themselves.
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01:33:19.000I completely understood and believed what she was going through.
01:33:24.000Well, when my sister was on her way home, Megan first tried to hang herself with her shoestrings from the ceiling lamp in the living room.
01:33:32.000And the weight of her body made the ceiling lamp fall, so she wasn't, the fan made it fall, so she wasn't successful.
01:33:40.000So she was so desperate that she then went into one of my younger niece's bedrooms and took an angel-shaped lantern, an oil lantern, and poured the oil over her head and set herself on fire.
01:33:52.000And at some point she must have changed her mind or she must have been in pain or something because the girls, the two younger girls, had taken a bath that morning and the bath water was still in.
01:34:03.000Apparently, according to the EMS report, she had gone in and she tried to extinguish the fire in that bathtub, and she was unsuccessful, not knowing the oil would be spread.
01:34:13.000And by the time that they actually came to get her, she was uncommunicative.
01:34:18.000They said she opened the door, and then she fell backwards, and that was the last of it.
01:34:22.000It took about 35 minutes for them to get her to the Bracken Ridge Burn Center, and she died when they got there.
01:34:32.000She had second to third degree burns over 95% of her body.
01:34:54.000That's almost like those Buddhist monks in Vietnam would douse themselves and sit there meditating as they burn to death.
01:35:01.000I mean, the place, the mind, and you read about cops pull up, and I hear about these stories all the time, I'm a newshound, and you hear about every week a woman dancing naked, stabbing herself with butcher knives on top of a building.
01:35:12.000A woman running around, foaming at the mouth, and it's always some lawyer, some doctor, no one who had ever any history of mental illness, and they're put on these drugs, or they quickly go off of them, that can cause it too, and they're just, it's total psycho world.
01:35:24.000Then you go read the inserts, And it says that it does exactly that.
01:35:31.000I want to get some comments from your colleague.
01:36:33.000You know, if the restaurant's too crowded, if I'm going by myself and it's too crowded, I just turn around and go away for myself sometimes.
01:36:40.000And she had that, so they put her on Paxil.
01:38:45.000Well, I'm going to give you some of these.
01:38:47.000It's all being engineered to get people on these drugs, and they know!
01:38:51.000I mean, 20 years ago, you never heard of little girls cutting themselves, or jumping out of windows, or electrocuting themselves, or pouring gasoline on themselves, or whatever, killing themselves.
01:39:03.000And then now, I know so many couples, so many middle-class, wealthy people, their daughters are all on it!
01:39:10.000My boyfriend breaks up with them, somebody calls them ugly, and they get depressed, and then they go and they put them on some of these drugs, and then they go from being depressed to the phenomenon of young people cutting themselves.
01:39:23.000See, it's doing something in the brain.
01:39:27.000They admit in the development of it, it does this.
01:39:30.000The drug companies, folks at the high levels, know it does this and know that it's going to get you into the system.
01:41:59.000I want people to learn how they can get this.
01:42:01.000But why are they mainly targeting women?
01:42:03.000I know that 80% of advertising already targets women.
01:42:07.000I learned that in college because women make most of the purchases.
01:42:10.000The other 20% is targeted at limited groups of men who make on average larger capital outlays.
01:42:17.000But most marketing itself is targeted at women and it's no different with this situation with the drugs.
01:42:24.000And not just the psychological effects, also I've interviewed so many medical doctors on this, the toxic effects of it, but just as a woman who sold these, had problems taking them yourself, losing your knees through it.
01:42:35.000I mean, just your view on how this affects women.
01:42:41.000Well, I actually believe that the reason that women are targeted, and I know that the reason that children are targeted, is because they're more compliant patients.
01:42:50.000Men aren't as compliant to take pills as women are, And they definitely, women aren't even as compliant as children are, because what happens is children are forced to take their medications by their parents and by the school personnel.
01:43:06.000Well, even if they do complain, they're a child, they don't know how to intellectually communicate what's happening to them, what the side effects are, the symptoms they're experiencing.
01:43:17.000And so that's the reason that women and children are targeted by the pharmaceutical manufacturers.
01:43:22.000The children, per se, though, are the largest growth potential that the industry has because we are maxing out.
01:43:28.000The marketplace is becoming saturated with drugs.
01:43:31.000And so they're constantly looking for new places to push their pills.
01:43:35.000And again, children are the best and the most profitable area to push your pills because, first of all, it's a maintenance drug, so it's a long-term drug that you're going to have to take lifelong.
01:43:48.000The first thing they tell you when they put you on an antidepressant is that you will probably have to take this for the rest of your life.
01:43:55.000And the truth is that if you buy into that, you will, because you will become addicted to the drugs very shortly.
01:44:01.000And the withdrawal is hell for most people if you've been on them long-term.
01:44:05.000Well, medical doctors we've interviewed, who are against these drugs, say, listen, you better get with a medical doctor and have a special regiment to get off of these.
01:44:16.000Because, I mean, this is a lot worse than even heroin or something.
01:44:19.000This deals with the very chemical foundation of the brain.
01:44:22.000It isn't like heroin or cocaine that just hits certain chemicals, certain receptors.
01:44:26.000This changes the entire chemistry outlay of the entire brain.
01:44:30.000That's correct, and they are also neurotoxic in large doses.
01:44:34.000And there's about 10% of the population that have a defective liver enzyme known as the cytochrome P450.
01:44:41.000And that's where the majority of these drugs are metabolized.
01:44:44.000So you have a very large population of people that say, such as myself, if you react to one drug negatively and they put you on another drug and compound that, you can very quickly get a neurotoxic combination of drugs that pass the blood-brain barrier.
01:44:58.000Because the psychotropics are all made up of basically the same molecule structure.
01:45:05.000And so, you know, that's the reason why that this is such a prevalent problem.
01:45:11.000I mean, we have, in 2005, there were over 50 million prescriptions written for antidepressants in this country.
01:45:18.000I mean, that's a pretty huge number if you think about it.
01:45:21.000Pretty soon all of us are not going to have any higher thinking abilities or any, you know, we're all going to be dealing with emotional ability, everyone who's on these products.
01:45:31.000So, I mean, I think it's really something that we need to be aware of, not just with our children, because this is where the issue is really getting the most attention right now.
01:45:38.000These drugs do the exact same things to adults that they do to children.
01:45:42.000It's just that children's physiology, their biology is different.
01:45:45.000They're developing, so therefore they are potentially more likely to have adverse drug reactions with any kind of pharmaceutical.
01:45:55.000Robert Mancero, now you produced this film.
01:46:00.000When you're making it, did you ever think of like Brave New World, where the government makes everyone take drugs, or THX 1138?
01:46:06.000I mean, do you ever just think, this is like the Twilight Zone, I can't believe that this is happening, that this is this big, that all this is going on?
01:46:30.000The drug companies come up with something that will make you go crazy, make you have more problems, and every case I've heard, they get you on one, the average is four drugs they get you on by the end of it, and you're a complete basket case, and by the end of it, you really are crazy.
01:46:58.000mailbox but then the cops will raid your house with a black mask wearing SWAT team looking for street LSD but we're going to push this on kids?
01:47:06.000Alex think about this the drug manufacturers are actually creating their own markets for their drugs and and I have this in my book I document this where I was actually told this at a sales meeting where we were creating the market for the next drug that was in the pipeline and oh wait a minute Timmy.
01:48:49.000And that's a very very common practice and that's what they use people like myself, a former drug rep, to go in and do is we get opinion leaders in the medical community and we get them to use it for that particular thing and then get them to say they had success with it and then BAM!
01:49:04.000I've got the name to go around drop with every doctor in town to tell them oh Dr. So-and-so who is the doctor that they admire or refer to or whatever Is doing this, and thus you get this huge off-label thing going on.
01:49:16.000And you know what's funny, you know, last year when I was filming it, I went for my physical, my doctor.
01:49:22.000And I figured, I'll tell my doctor about this, get his opinion on it.
01:49:25.000He closed the door, he told the nurse to go away, and for 20 minutes he was telling me how these drugs are good for people.
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01:54:55.000How many people does this church that's showing it hold?
01:54:58.000475, and we'd like to pack the house and have standing room only, folks.
01:55:01.000Yeah, well if we really plug something to 500 short from this show, so tell folks the name of the church and where it is.
01:55:09.000It's Unity Church of the Hills at 9905 Anderson Mill Road in Austin.
01:55:14.000That's right off of 183, about half a mile on Anderson Mill.
01:55:23.000Robert, I want you to tell the story about South by Southwest, which will have the most mindless films you can imagine showing at it, run by this creature known as Lewis Black, the owner of the Chronicle, runs it all.
01:55:35.000I mean, he's just a travesty on every issue.
01:55:38.000I mean, seriously, folks, he's like Dr. Evil here locally, posing as a liberal.
01:58:36.000I mean, each of you have got about two minutes left.
01:58:38.000Gwen, just any important information you want to impart to people.
01:58:43.000I'd just like to encourage everyone to come out and make a showing tonight.
01:58:46.000I do know that this will be a very emotional, heartfelt event.
01:58:50.000But following the screening of the film, we're also going to have a Q&A panel of experts from Dr. John Breeding, whom you had on your show yesterday, will be in attendance.
01:58:59.000We'll also have Lee Spiller from the Commission on Human Rights of Texas.
01:59:03.000And then we also have the families that are in the local area attending and they will be there for the Q&A following the film.
01:59:11.000So this is a very important event for us to make a showing, to make a statement that we do care.
01:59:17.000We do care about this issue and we do care about our children.
02:02:20.000Don't tell everybody you've got to take it.
02:02:22.000And certainly, we've got to get them off the market for the claims that they say these... for what these drugs do, because they don't do that.
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02:06:07.000Well, George Humphrey, for the next 50-something minutes, will be riding shotgun with us, and he can throw out a few questions at our illustrious guest.
02:06:15.000We had him on last Thursday, for just about five minutes, he was going to be on for a couple of segments, but he got caught up there in Congress, which we fully understand.
02:06:23.000And I am, again, honored to have the best member of Congress, and he hails from the wonderful state of Texas, Congressman Ron Paul.
02:06:31.000Congressman, thank you so much for joining us again this week, so we can finish asking you the questions.
02:07:05.000We have a tremendous benefit by the world accepting the dollar as if it were gold and them holding it as in their reserves.
02:07:13.000And that one day, probably not in the too distant future, they're going to give up on this, which will have a lot of ramifications for us here at home.
02:07:22.000We would then have to expect inflation and high interest rates and a lot of other problems.
02:07:28.000Congressman, what do the one-worlders really want?
02:07:31.000Because we know that they have to let their dollars come back in that all these foreign countries like Japan, China, England, UAE, Saudi Arabia, the French are holding.
02:07:42.000And then Bush claims now that they're dropping the UAE deal, but really Halliburton's just going to be a holding company for it.
02:07:50.000In fact, Treasury Secretary Snowe is out today saying, don't worry, America's still open for business.
02:07:56.000That's really all we do now, is you just come buy us.
02:07:59.000I mean, where does this go in the future for the American worker, the American middle class people who want their children to have some type of future?
02:08:06.000Because all the indices I look at show a very dim future indeed.
02:08:11.000Well, I think their ultimate goal, and the goal they've had for a long time, is to control all the natural resources.
02:08:18.000And the biggest resource that they're interested in is oil.
02:08:22.000And in the process, though, they want to control the banking system, which they pretty much have control of, which means the dollar is very, very important to them.
02:08:33.000And then they also want to control the military power that dominates in the world, and that is, of course, our military power, so they're very influential there.
02:08:45.000I don't think they have any sense of loyalty to nations.
02:08:50.000They're internationalists in the worst sense.
02:08:53.000I don't think there's anything wrong with being an internationalist in the sense that you can travel and deal with people and trade with people and study and learn.
02:09:01.000but international in the sense of international intrigue and control of resources and government and money.
02:09:08.000We're talking about global government.
02:09:09.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and many others have written, and many globalist documents admit, that when they talk about global interdependency, they really want these global corporations that are bigger than most nations manipulating the internal activities of countries and really paying off the local politicians.
02:09:26.000We have more foreign lobbyists than American lobbyists buying that interest.
02:09:31.000I mean, isn't that, Congressman, what the New World Order is?
02:09:33.000Yeah, I think it is, and this is a good example of their solution, you know, turning it over to Halliburton.
02:09:38.000Halliburton had been charged with a lot of misuse of funds to the tune of billions of dollars, and I don't have all the evidence, but quite frankly, I believe they probably were very much involved in a lot of corrupt spending over in Iraq, so they get rewarded, and they're going to take over as if they're different.
02:09:57.000I think you're right to assume that they're all one and the same group.
02:10:02.000It looks like the American people and the Congress are going to buy it.
02:10:07.000I've got former city council member and author and documentary filmmaker in his own right, George Humphrey, in studio with me.
02:10:13.000And George, I'm interested to see what you think is most important today.
02:10:16.000What questions do you have for Dr. Ron Paul?
02:10:56.000That's what they're threatening to do.
02:10:57.000A lot of people are saying that that's one of the prime reasons the neocons want the invasion now is to stop that oil bourse from going into position.
02:11:07.000Well, I think that's a possibility because it sure made sense that that was the reason we went into Iraq because Saddam Hussein had already started pricing his oil in Euros.
02:11:19.000And we knew that Chavez threatened to do that, and then all of a sudden there was an attempted coup against him.
02:11:29.000The only thing that doesn't quite add up, and maybe somebody has an answer to this, is if the Europeans were opposed to what we were doing in Iraq, because it was a contest between dollars and euros, but right now the Europeans aren't offering any resistance whatsoever, To the intimidation and the confrontation with Iran.
02:11:53.000In fact, while we have that going on, what is your prediction on will there be an Israeli or a U.S.
02:12:06.000They like to do that, and then that ties in with a lot of the independent article today with all these quotes of William F. Buckley, Francis, Fulciama, Richard Perle, Andrew Sullivan, George Will, and others saying we've lost the war, Bush is basically bad, we've got to pull out.
02:12:20.000Suddenly they're all saying this in their own editorials, but meanwhile they're steamrolling towards a whole new invasion when the CIA's own assessment says 10 years.
02:12:32.000And with all this fog of war, literal and figurative, where do you see it, Congressman? - Well, we've had several hearings already.
02:12:40.000We had some this week from State Department and other officials, other neocons coming and advocating, you know, a confrontational approach.
02:12:48.000They're not nearly at the point where they're talking about an invasion, and they may get around to that, but the only thing they hint to is that of taking out these nuclear sites, which they can't even prove exist, and yet they're about ready to attack them with bombs.
02:13:06.000I think this will have a horrendous ramification on the price of oil, and I don't think the Iranians are going to sit back and be defeated as easily as the Iraqi government was defeated.
02:13:19.000Of course, the Iraqi people haven't been defeated yet.
02:13:21.000They're doing pretty good at holding their own against a very powerful nation.
02:13:25.000So I think they have a lot of things that they can do back at us, like cut off all their oil and then close the Straits of Hormuz.
02:13:33.000Well, they're saying they'll blow up the shipping with their cruise missiles.
02:13:38.000I even charged the State Department, I said, you know, you should try to learn from your mistakes and learn from the lessons that we just have had, you know, with the Iraq War.
02:13:50.000And you took oil from $30 a barrel up to $60.
02:13:53.000I said, as soon as you attack Iran, the oil is going to go from $60 to $120.
02:13:59.000They didn't answer that question at all.
02:14:04.000So do you think they're going to have a strike?
02:14:06.000I mean, Israel's here in the Jerusalem Post.
02:14:08.000Their defense minister has the nerve, after we roll over backwards for them, and he's saying, headline, US not doing enough to stop Iran, and America, quote, needs to get its act together.
02:14:21.000And they just go on to call us all sorts of names here.
02:14:25.000Until now, the US administration has just been talking tough, but the time has come for Americans to begin to take tough action.
02:14:31.000Hey, tell Israel they want to cause World War III.
02:14:48.000I have no qualms about Israel doing whatever they want.
02:14:50.000I do have qualms about us being dictated to or us financing what they need or want.
02:14:57.000I don't think they're on the verge of doing it.
02:14:59.000I think they're still in the propaganda phase.
02:15:03.000Why is our defense minister treating us like we're a whore and Israel's our pimp?
02:15:10.000Well, just to put more pressure on us and they know it's worked in the past.
02:15:16.000They put pressure on our politicians, and our politicians are so intimidated.
02:15:21.000The one disturbing thing this week that I noticed in our hearings was that the coalition, you know, of some of the conservatives like myself and constitutionalists, along with some on the left who oppose the war, that coalition is very weak.
02:15:36.000It seems like the left is much more ready to do something about Iran than they were about Iraq.
02:15:45.000So I see our opposition even weaker, and we weren't able to stop the last one.
02:15:52.000So when the time comes, I think the noise that you hear now and all the talk is all to get the American people ready, because they are down on the Iraqi war, so they have to have You know, a reason to go in, and that's what they're preparing people for.
02:16:07.000Dr. Paul, shifting gears, shifting gears, and we're so honored to have you with us, shifting gears into another subject quickly before you have to leave us.
02:16:14.000DU, detectors all over the western world are picking up eight times the safe level.
02:16:20.000We know it's the thousands of tons that have been used everywhere.
02:16:23.000Lung cancer rates are exploding, even though smoking's down.
02:16:26.000What do you think about the DU situation?
02:16:28.000Well, I don't know enough about it to comment on it, but I do know that we contribute to it, especially with You're talking about the depleted uranium, which was put in the shells.
02:16:42.000We know that the Persian Gulf War Syndrome probably was somewhat related to that and other things that we did.
02:16:48.000Well, a tripling of birth defects from the first war.
02:16:51.000Yeah, so we have not yet seen the real cost of this war when we start seeing our troops come home.
02:16:58.000You know, they talk about 20,000 casualties, that's serious injury and death.
02:17:03.000But there are probably tens of thousands of others who are coming back who believe they have psychological problems that they've been taught that it's just a weakness and they can't even talk about it.
02:17:14.000So we have no idea what we're going to face with our veterans coming home.
02:17:21.000And then not only about the uranium, I think we also have a lot more head injuries and psychological problems for other reasons that It's really going to hit us.
02:17:34.000Congressman, I just want to hold you through this break so you can plug your website and your organization, the Liberty Committee, when we get back.
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02:21:56.000I was talking to George during the break, Congressman.
02:21:59.000And he was talking about how he just got back from Thailand.
02:22:02.000And of course he's been to India, business and many other issues.
02:22:05.000He's a successful businessman here locally.
02:22:08.000And how just everything's moving there.
02:22:10.000I mean it looks like a spaceship he said in India.
02:22:12.000It's so high tech what's been moved there.
02:22:14.000And so we have the EU expansion failing.
02:22:16.000We have the American Union failing last year.
02:22:19.000Huge victories for freedom against the NWO.
02:22:22.000But at the same time, our entire infrastructure is gone.
02:22:26.000The globalists said they'd do that to get control of us.
02:22:29.000So talking about the good of this whole New World Order stalling, but at the same time, it's kind of like they were able to slit America's throat, but now they're going to drown in our blood.
02:22:43.000You know, even if we had some victories, and continue to have some victories, to rebuild our structure is a big, big job.
02:22:51.000I mean, to bring the jobs back and be competitive again, you need a new currency, you need a new tax structure, you need a new approach to environmentalism, and you need a new approach to all regulatory law that we have.
02:23:05.000We need different courts and justices.
02:23:08.000It's so overwhelming that I don't think all of a sudden we should expect manufacturing jobs to come back because we aren't competitive.
02:23:17.000And I think the currency has a lot to do with that.
02:23:19.000When you're printing a currency, it's much easier to spend it overseas than to build factories, as long as these people are taking our money.
02:23:26.000So I think our agitation, that's about all I think I can do is agitate and talk about what we should do so we don't have a whole lot of victories.
02:23:37.000I think that's important so that if we do get a better chance to implement policy, there'll be more people with us.
02:23:43.000And I think the hard money movement and the number of people who are understanding the importance of gold and silver and why it's so dangerous to have paper money, I think our numbers are growing and I think that's very beneficial to all of us.
02:23:55.000The dollar overall has devalued 45% since 1998.
02:24:00.000Because the euro was about 88 cents, and now it's at what, 130 or so.
02:24:05.000So you do the math, and you look at where all these trends are going.
02:24:11.000More and more countries are starting to slowly dump the dollar.
02:24:14.000It's like they're trying to ease out of it, but it's like a Mexican standoff.
02:24:18.000When does it... Well, it'll probably get out of hand.
02:24:21.000It's in their interest to make it orderly, because the foreigners are holding so many dollars, and I think the top Insiders probably bet on both sides.
02:24:33.000If the markets demand that the dollar be rejected, I don't even think the insiders can prevent that.
02:24:41.000That's why they try to get onto another currency, and that is that they go to They go to the Euro or something else.
02:24:47.000So you think we need to, because I've heard you say this before, you think we need to educate everybody about who was behind the crash, who caused this, what policies did this, so as things get worse, people will at least know real solutions?
02:25:08.000But basically, what the trouble is with Washington is they reject the notion of the rule of law because I think the founders gave us a system that endorsed the concept of free markets and sound money.
02:25:21.000So if we really want to step back in the right direction, we just demand that our Congress obey the Constitution, and that's where our biggest problem is that most of them don't care and most of them don't really understand it.
02:25:35.000But instead, the federal government's racing in the other direction.
02:25:38.000The people now don't want big government.
02:25:40.000They're waking up in all the polls, but the establishment knows that, so they're racing to put a police state in place.
02:25:46.000Is that police state to try to fend off the counter-revolution?
02:25:50.000It is, it's in there, it's in place, and it was rather tragic that we saw the Patriot Act got passed, and worse than ever, and yet you and I know that there's a lot of people around this country who have spoken out and have been very negative about that, so that shows they're still in control in spite of the people trying to speak out and slow this bureaucratic monstrosity that we have in Washington.
02:26:33.000They've introduced the resolution already and it would be both because they're angry just for general political reasons, but They really, really would like to get payback for what Republicans did with Clinton, so if they get a majority in the House, I believe they'll take it up in a very serious manner.
02:26:54.000But overall, do you think it'll be positive to see the executive branch punished just for precedent?
02:26:59.000I mean, right now the executive claiming imperial power, would it be positive to see the executive punished?
02:27:05.000I think anything that diminishes the power of the executive branch or the central government is beneficial to the people and to the cause of liberty.
02:27:13.000Congressman, you're a trooper, you're a champion of liberty, you are just an amazing American, and we're glad to have you up there as a standard of the paleo-conservatism, and God bless you, thanks for spending time with us, have a great weekend.
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02:30:43.000The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
02:30:52.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:30:56.000My comment on the documentary, 9-1-1, The Great Illusion, The End Game of the Illuminati, Our Toy Sphere of Love, is one of the best 9-11 documentaries just for the sheer amount of information.
02:31:09.000And we carry it as well as a book on tape on CD.
02:31:13.000These are great gifts to give people, and we carry the 90-something page color booklets that go with it.
02:31:20.000And I certainly hope listeners will go to infowars.com and order these books and videos, VHS, DVD, today, because they are so important in this fight, and he has such a deep knowledge into the New World Order.
02:31:34.000George, I want to talk about the Iraq War, the globalists, where we're going from here, Just basically whatever you think is most important, but you were riveting me during the break, talking about all your overseas travels for business and pleasure, and you're over there just seeing what's happened.
02:31:51.000So thank you so much for being here, my friend.
02:31:53.000Well, I'm always honored to be on the show, Alex.
02:31:55.000You're a good friend of mine and have been a good friend for a long period of time.
02:31:59.000I just got back from two months in Southeast Asia, and having a degree in economics and having written about what's going on in this world for a long period of time, When you see firsthand how the United States is losing it financially and economically from a different perspective, it is just overwhelming.
02:32:23.000I spent about three weeks in India and most of that time in Bangalore where they have these IT parks.
02:32:30.000And it's like these spaceships have come down and landed and almost every software company in the country and in the world is going there, which means the brains and the wisdom of this country is going over there.
02:32:43.000A buddy of mine here in Austin, Texas who has a very successful company has just shut down He's running his business here in the United States and is moving it all... Free scale, shutting down, going to India.
02:32:55.000Yeah, and it's nothing against the Indians, because I love India, but the problem is, is that the brains and the productivity and the wealth of this country, both as far as software and industrially, is moving from this country.
02:33:11.000And if you don't make things, and if you don't sell things, and if you are not productive, you go bankrupt.
02:33:17.000Well, I mean, I'd liken it to, you come home, your house has been robbed, you can rebuild that, you can get that back.
02:33:23.000But if somebody chops your legs and arms off and gouges your eyes out and cuts your tongue out and pierces your eardrums with pencils, you're in deep trouble.
02:33:31.000What made this country wealthy is because the people of this country were entrepreneurs, they worked, they produced things, and Made in America meant something.
02:33:40.000And so our building capacity is being taken.
02:33:43.000And for 150 years, we had a positive trade balance.
02:33:47.000And in 1982, we had the world's largest trade balance in the world.
02:33:52.000By 1985, we had the world's largest negative trade balance.
02:33:56.000This year, we're going to have almost a $750 billion per year negative trade balance.
02:34:37.000Just 25 years ago, manufacturing was 44% of the gross domestic product of the United States.
02:34:44.000Today, it's 17% and going down like a rocket.
02:34:49.000My friends, the good-paying jobs in this country are leaving very, very quickly.
02:34:55.000And they're shifting over, where in some colleges, the growth industry, I mean, we're talking in some cases like half the college, will shift over to, quote, homeland security, so the new economy is going to be surveillance and control, so if you want a job, it's going to economically conscript you into that.
02:35:11.000Yeah, and even service jobs are not safe here.
02:35:14.000Just about three months ago I was in New York City and I called a cab from my hotel and I got a guy in Bangalore who was the one who was scheduling the cabs to take me out to the airport.
02:35:25.000Friends, our economy and the economy is the basis of the wealth and the freedom.
02:35:32.000By the way, service is now constricting as you know.
02:35:35.000And people, if you don't wake up, And realize that NAFTA and GATT are not free trade, it's unfree trade, and that the vitality of this nation is being destroyed.
02:35:48.000Then it's up to us, because quite clearly our, quote, leaders are not going to... Well, tell us how we turn it around, if that's even possible, or how do we have a softer landing in the crash?
02:35:57.000And then the really scary thing, why do they want to economically bankrupt us?
02:36:02.000Well, the last question, I think, is extremely important.
02:36:06.000Why they want to do that is because the United States, the freedom-loving people of the United States have always been the greatest hurdle to the power elite taking total control of the world.
02:36:17.000In fact, they wrote big articles about it when we first got independence from the British.
02:36:21.000They said, if this spreads, if they're allowed to have freedom and allowed to print for our money, it's over for us.
02:36:27.000And quite clearly the handful, and I'm talking about the handful, the two or three hundred people who run this world realize that the middle class of this country, the people who are productive, are the only stop between them and the poor middle class.
02:36:43.000And that poor middle class is cheering on these wars.
02:36:46.000They've been told that by going for these wars that they somehow are getting some of it.
02:37:14.000And there's going to be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
02:37:17.000Yeah, and unless we the people, the educated people of this country, and it doesn't take a majority, it doesn't even take thirty percent, it takes about five to ten percent of the people to wake up Get the objective information and change this thing.
02:37:33.000And start having the attitude that we're going to win.
02:37:35.000I mean, I'm so sick of hearing... Every time we put our hands on something, every time we put our minds into something, we have victories.
02:37:41.000But it's a small amount of us doing all the work.
02:37:43.000Folks, stop counting on George or I to go and do it all for you.
02:38:21.000And the thing about it is, is that one person, no matter what color you are, how rich, male or female, every single one of you can make a difference.
02:38:31.000And understanding that we are not victims.
02:38:35.000We are all strong, sovereign, divine people.
02:38:38.000And if you believe that and understand that, then you have tremendous power.
02:38:43.000You just made me think of something else.
02:38:44.000Not only have we gone since 1985 of being the greatest creditor, With the biggest trade surplus to being the biggest debtor with the biggest trade deficit, we've also gone from being universally loved and seen as the good guys They see our President get up and his Attorney General say they can torture children and they can torture people.
02:39:02.000Everyone hears that, and Joseph Mingela did it in secret.
02:39:06.000By design, these globalists are also setting America up for that fall.
02:39:10.000Yeah, and traveling around, and I travel around the world all the time, and I go to Asia about once a year, and I go to Europe and South America.
02:39:16.000You're out of the country more than you're in.
02:39:18.000And the fact is, is that the people around the world still love Americans.
02:39:24.000I mean, even in Vietnam... That's what Dr. Kamal said.
02:39:27.000He said, overseas they know it's our government, not us.
02:39:30.000And, at the same time, they're seeing what's going on with our government, and they're saying, why aren't the people standing up to this?
02:39:38.000And so, for the first time in a long time, the people are going, why aren't the American people doing something?
02:39:45.000And because there's such a dichotomy between the actions of the government, between the torture, the bombing, the insane policy of the government, and the good-hearted people of the United States that travel around the world.
02:39:59.000But the fact is that the leaders of this country are only there because the people of this country have allowed them to be there.
02:40:07.000Well, we were the big, bad, smartest, richest people around because we had liberty, and then the central nervous system got hijacked by a virus, and it's using us, and we've got to literally pull the amoeba-like creature out of our ear and get it out of... I mean, we've got to do that now.
02:40:30.000The disease that the people of the United States and of the Occidental world are dealing with right now is so systemic, it is so total, that unless we take radical measures to clear our thoughts and to transcend the old left-right paradigm and to start
02:40:49.000Having a new conversation about how to heal, how to make this country, return this country to the good, the truth, the beauty, and the respect for individual rights instead of the consolidation of power.
02:41:14.000You know, we always think that other countries are less free.
02:41:17.000And quite clearly countries that I travel to are not perfect and there's a lot of problems but I guarantee you is that on a personal level is that there is much more personal freedom in Southeast Asia than there is in the United States and there is more dialogue and there's more debate.
02:41:36.000People are more informed about the NWO.
02:41:38.000Yes, they're clearly more informed and In Thailand, the Prime Minister Thaksin there, a very sharp guy, but a total buddy of Bush, who just sold out his country.
02:41:52.000Within days, there was hundreds of thousands of people in the street, and they're Buddhists, and non-violently demonstrating.
02:42:01.000Doing a really, really great job, and I'll tell you what, unless we, again, organize, and that means you, the people listening out there, it means getting informed, going to Alex's website, going to my website, www.fearourlove.com, getting yourself informed, talking to your friends, writing the letters, going to the demonstrations, Calling in to the talk shows, writing letters.
02:42:25.000Come on folks, it doesn't take that much, but if you don't do it, not only will your grandchildren's lives and your children's lives, but your life will be severely impacted by it.
02:42:35.000Now I specifically want people to know though, THX 1138, Brave New World, these nightmare, dystopic films like The Island, That's actually what the globalists say they're going to do to us.
02:42:46.000I don't think people realize that they openly say we're animals, we're scum, we're going to be killed.
02:42:51.000I mean, we have the Kissinger documents, we have the Prince Philip documents, we know the WTO, the WHO documents, the UN food summits, population control.
02:43:03.000If they have their way, George, what's going to happen?
02:43:05.000Well, I've been reading and studying about this for a long period of time, and First of all, the future, there's infinite potential, but it's very, very clear and objective.
02:43:22.000And things are changing because of people like Alex and myself and Jack Blood and many others and many of you who are listening.
02:43:30.000But the fact is, is that the people who control the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, these people have absolutely no respect for our Constitution.
02:43:42.000They have no respect for the individual, sovereign liberty of individuals.
02:43:48.000Well, they see us as like a package of Twinkies on the shelf.
02:43:54.000And when you objectify another person's life, it's slavery.
02:44:03.000And with the technology that is there right now, the changes that are and can take place can happen so rapidly.
02:44:13.000And folks, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
02:44:16.000We're not trying to be chicken littles and we're not trying to overhype this thing.
02:44:22.000The reality is though, unless we the people of this country take absolutely strong action right now, the near future of this country and the near future of your life is in great jeopardy.
02:44:38.000There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
02:44:39.000Their plan is to use consecutively larger terrorist attacks to hurt us in the compact cities, clamp down a total control grid, and then kill 85-95% of us.
02:44:49.000And so that day in the future, 10 years from now, maybe even sooner, we're all clamped down, we're all walking around with our little ID badges, they're going to kill all of us, and you can Just guarantee it, folks.
02:45:00.000I don't get on the ear and say, this is going to happen, that's going to happen.
02:45:03.000Unfortunately, everything I've said is going to happen, is going to happen.
02:45:06.000They are going to kill everyone if we don't stop them.
02:45:09.000Well, you know, and that's a real possibility, and it's just like three years ago, they knew about this bird flu, and I saw Chertoff today said the bird flu is coming to the United States.
02:45:47.000And when people are afraid, they do irrational things.
02:45:50.000Well, bottom line, I mean, I've had a lot of guests on where they admittedly take a young corporal, say, we're going to give you three days of leave, go in this chamber.
02:45:57.000They nerve gas him and kill him, knowing it would kill him.
02:46:00.000They do that to thousands and thousands of people in this country.
02:46:02.000I talk about the ringworm children in Israel.
02:46:48.000We've proven they're behind it with our own documents.
02:46:50.000But look at how they admittedly like to kill innocent little kids, and kill innocent people in America, and black men in Tuskegee, and all the rest of it.
02:46:58.000And then we ask, who's going to be behind the bio-attack, George?
02:47:02.000And so, both Alex and I have so much information that can scare the bejesus out of anybody, including myself.
02:47:11.000And the important thing right now is what we are going to do to turn this thing around, which is what Alex is doing.
02:47:18.000Let's talk about that when we get back.
02:47:27.000The first thing is getting objective information and getting this together and understanding the immensity of the issues and the problems that we as humans are facing.
02:47:39.000I want cops listening right now to know, hey, you're going to lose your money, your pension fund, and probably your life if you don't join us.
02:47:45.000And please, don't ten years from now, five years from now, wish you'd listen to us.
02:47:49.000And it's just like, you know, dear friends of mine who have these manufacturing companies, who for years and years have been supporting Bush and Naft and Gantt, and suddenly they find out that all their outsourcing is gone, they have no more market.
02:48:08.000I mean, some of these rascals have such dadgum hard heads that, you know, But anyway, a lot of my friends, even hardcore conservative republics, are starting to wake up to the fact that our government, both Democrats and Republicans, have been selling them out.
02:48:25.000Final segment, I want to talk more about Solutions with you.
02:48:27.000You're going to be out of town next week, but you're promising me that the next week will come in for an hour and a half.
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02:52:35.000Well, it's like being a basketball coach or whatever.
02:52:38.000It's really just getting our game face on, realizing that we really can change things.
02:52:43.000And they set up these parameters, these roads, these schools, these systems, these forms, and just tell us we've got to go with that system.
02:52:52.000For the beginner, you're more advanced than this, but how do you begin to shift your paradigm?
02:52:55.000Well, it's like being a basketball coach or whatever.
02:52:58.000First of all, you've got to get your kids in shape, and then you've got to teach them the fundamentals, And then you've got to get them to believe that they can win.
02:53:07.000So it does begin with getting off of the fast food and getting healthy.
02:53:11.000The people of this country are so Myself included.
02:54:55.000The more you read about this stuff, these rascals, they have the real ability, even to people who are aware of it, they can They can blindside you, they can mind control you, so we have to be on our toes because this is a big game right now.
02:55:10.000Life is a challenge and we have to meet it and also life is a dream and we have to be aware of it and that these people are creating this dreamlike reality and we have to realize, no we're not going to go down that path.
02:55:24.000We are going to live a life based on health, love, and happiness.
02:56:08.000It's all part of the game, and we have to see it as that, and realize not to hate our enemies, because when we hate somebody, we just give them more power.