Live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones is joined by the founders of Downsize DC, the organization founded by the late Harry Brown, to discuss a variety of topics, including the rise of Martial Law in the United States, the Iraq War, Blackwater, and much more.
00:01:00.000We have the Downsize DC folks joining us, the foundation, the organization that the late Harry Brown set up, and of course they hosted two separate radio talk shows, the Harry Brown show and the Downsize DC show, right here on the GCN radio network.
00:01:20.000And a couple weeks ago, about a week and a half ago, Mr. Brown died.
00:01:24.000I briefly mentioned that, but I wanted to try to eulogize him for some of his revolutionary ideas and some of the great books that he wrote, some of the things that helped wake me up many, many years ago.
00:01:35.000So we've got one of his colleagues, Mr. Babka, joining us, coming up in the second hour.
00:01:43.000That's the only guest we've scheduled today because we're going to have open phones and take your calls on whatever issue or news item or question or comment you have.
00:01:53.000We will take calls in this first hour, hopefully early in this first hour, if I can get around to that.
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00:02:34.000More than 80 dead in apparent reprisal killings.
00:02:38.000Bodies found around Baghdad in 30 hour period.
00:02:43.000There's the wonderful liberation, sectarian murders going on.
00:02:47.000The globalists have stirred up and kept burning.
00:03:52.000They have fired the majority, or to use the term, furloughed over half Of their sheriff's deputies, and federal money is being offered by Homeland Security, but not to hire their officers back.
00:04:11.000No, to hire DynCorp, and Blackwater, and others, and a lot of cops out there going, good, I'll just get a job with them and get paid more.
00:04:23.000You get paid more now, not when they start taking over the departments.
00:04:28.000And these departments take orders from DynCorp and Blackwater, not from the elected sheriff.
00:04:34.000You talk about fascism, I mean, the Nazis didn't go this far.
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00:08:05.000The global crime syndicate, spin doctors, intelligence agents, are in overdrive right now, trying to spin the murder of Slobodan Milošević.
00:08:23.000It fits the classic MO, he said he was being poisoned, said he was going to be murdered, And they had, admittedly, 24-hour-a-day bright lights on him for years.
00:08:33.000He never was allowed to have even semi-darkness.
00:08:37.000And video cameras on him at all times.
00:08:40.000It had been even in international news that there would be three guards whenever anyone was in the cell with him.
00:08:46.000He has not seen his wife or children in five years since they grabbed him.
00:08:52.000So no one was allowed in to even see him.
00:08:54.000And when his lawyer would come in, that was heavily surveilled.
00:08:57.000Now they claim, while he had alcohol and drugs taken to him, and he was partying in his tiny cell, that he was poisoning himself.
00:09:09.000Yes, that's exactly what he was doing.
00:10:05.000That all those big headlines, and all those big top stories, and all the things you heard, mainstream news, the government news, has retracted, but always back-of-the-paper, tiny blurb.
00:10:17.000The propaganda pieces, though, were top news for weeks, top news every night, top news on the cable channels, cover of Time, Newsweek, People, just everything.
00:11:41.000Did they save Madeleine Albright, who was Secretary of State, bombed the daylights out of them when she ran from Czechoslovakia with her commissariat murdering father?
00:11:51.000Is her house full of concentration camp victims artwork?
00:14:28.000The UN would take them into these villages, the Tutsis, and then call in the Hutus, and the UN would even join in on it, and the UN would rape children and sell them into white slavery.
00:14:38.000It's all mainstream, just, oh yeah, anywhere they go they do this, and DynCorp drops by to help in Serbia and other areas.
00:14:45.000And all of this is happening, all of this is going, but the U.N.
00:14:50.000they don't murder people in their jail cells.
00:17:20.000Major Pete Tafuro scanned the fenced lot, packed with hundreds of stark white trailers, soon to be inhabited by Hurricane Katrina evacuees.
00:17:29.000Shaking his head, He predicted the cramp quarters would ignite fights, hide criminals, and become an incubator for crime.
00:17:40.000Posing another test for his cash-strapped Sheriff's Department, which furlonged 206 of its 390 officers.
00:18:06.000DynCorp International LLC, the Texas company, based right here in Austin, a great shadow of evil over us, that provided personnel security to Afghan President, UNICOL Executive, Hamad Karzai, and is one of the largest security contractors in Iraq,
00:18:24.000If the Federal Emergency Management Agency approves the Sheriff's Department's proposal, which would cost $70 million over three years, up to 100 Dine Corps employees would be deputized to make arrests, carry weapons, and dress in St.
00:18:38.000Bernard Parish Sheriff's Department khaki-black uniforms.
00:18:41.000But they'll have their own special Dine Corps badges.
00:19:15.000And then it goes into Blackwater doing the same thing, and this is pure de-fascism.
00:19:23.000See, you elected that sheriff, but now there's going to be all these Dine Corps and Blackwater employees who work for their private, and they're not really private, they're really government funds.
00:19:33.000But the profit goes to these former government lackeys.
00:19:41.000Our highways are being privatized, our police are going to be privatized, and these are the same Dine Corps mercs who Kidnap small children for slave camps.
00:22:58.000David J. Smith for Newswatch Magazine.
00:23:00.000Did you know that President Kennedy signed into law State Department Publication 7277 entitled, The United States Program for Complete and General Disarmament in a Peaceful World?
00:23:11.000This would disarm America and turn all of our armed forces over to the United Nations Organization.
00:23:16.000Citizens would be required to turn in their guns guaranteed to them by the Second Amendment.
00:23:22.000The head of the United Nations forces that would control all arms would always be a communist by agreement.
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00:26:10.000I know Louisiana has the lowest paid cops and sheriff's deputies in the country, but I don't think you can even live down there on that.
00:26:16.000And the Dine Corps boys, they're going to get, it says right here, but while the plan is for Dine Corps employees to eat and live with the other deputies in the same trailer camp, the hired guns would earn significantly more than the $18,000 annual salary of an entry-level deputy and the $30,000 a year salary of a seasoned officer.
00:26:34.000So, excuse me, they're going to earn even more than the veteran deputies.
00:26:43.000They'll be, oh, it says they'll get between 42,000 and more a year.
00:26:48.000And I know over, some Dine Corps employees over, so I've seen the ads.
00:26:53.000I have been working out at the, years ago, back when I had time to go downtown to the, I'd go jog around the hike and bike trail there on the lake and then I'd go lift weights for an hour at the YMCA, really nice facility down on Talent Lake.
00:27:10.000And in the men's room, in the men's shower area, there'd be a bulletin board.
00:28:23.000But why this is important is, we have Halliburton in the Houston Chronicle to run emergency FEMA centers in America, quote, for immigrant Overflows and for American citizens during crises and DynCorp runs of course Camp X-Rayed in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
00:28:44.000They run camps in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia.
00:28:50.000These are the nefarious camps where they also team up then with DynCorp.
00:28:55.000In 2000 they lost the civil case and they admitted to the fact that the company flew.
00:29:01.000In conjunction with the United Nations, 200,000 women and children out of the country.
00:29:08.000And admittedly, some of the women were going to be dishwashers, others had been grabbed, were going to be used as sex slaves.
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00:32:57.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:33:08.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:33:11.000Let me spend a few more minutes on the Dine Corps and Blackwater mercs to be taking over official sheriff's deputies' positions in and around New Orleans which
00:33:30.000Blackwater USA, which protected the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq for almost four employees, and lost four employees in a brutal ambush in Fallujah in 2004, earned about $42 million through the end of December on a contract with the Federal Protective Service, a unit of the Department of Homeland Security to provide security to FEMA sites.
00:33:54.000Most of the 330 contract guards now working in Louisiana are employed by the company.
00:34:01.000So they're already working for FEMA in New Orleans.
00:34:05.000The Homeland Security Department's Inspector General said the company's cost in its FEMA contract, that's what it says, it's kind of a babbling article.
00:34:16.000The Homeland Security Department's Inspector General said the company's cost in its FEMA contract, it earns $950 a day For each employee were clearly very high and expressed hope that competition would lower them.
00:34:32.000But cost are not the only concerns raised by critics of the companies.
00:34:39.000It was the first time you had the deployment of armed private security contractors in the US, said Peter W. Singer, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and the author of Corporate Warriors, The Rise of the Privatized Military Industry.
00:34:55.000And then it goes more into the pay differences.
00:34:57.000Singer said the prospect contract with Dine Corps raises a number of questions including whether the Dine Corps officers will be properly supervised, whether the pay differences will cause tension in the Sheriff's Department, and whether it suggests that even government jobs that assume a level of public service can be done by private contractors.
00:35:23.000Folks, I don't know what to say about this.
00:35:28.000It's so bad that I'm sitting here almost dumbfounded, not even able to articulate how criminal this is, how un-American this is, how dangerous this is, and then how bad this company is.
00:35:42.000It's not like it's some pure-as-the-driven-snow mercenary company that doesn't have just all sorts of the worst type of scum all over its record.
00:36:09.000This is the Dine Corps that BBC has reported is involved in giant white kidnapping rings.
00:36:14.000Just like the Chicago Tribune two months ago had the big headline Concerning DynCorp and Halliburton with actual lobbyists on Capitol Hill lobbying to have the military overseas not stop them from engaging in white slavery on basis.
00:37:36.000And evidence of this, a few days ago, during the weekend, they had this big media roasting.
00:37:41.000And for those who know what a roast is, that's where they It's a big party, and you get big aficionados up there, and everybody makes fun of everybody else.
00:37:49.000And they make jokes about the torture camps, and they make jokes about Cheney shooting people in the face, and they make jokes about sick stuff when it's admitted they're raping children.
00:37:59.000They're beating people to death at these camps.
00:38:02.000And the Army's own reports say 75 to 90 percent are completely innocent of everything.
00:38:07.000They're just arrested because their IDs weren't in order in Baghdad, or in surrounding areas, or in Afghanistan.
00:38:45.000In Seattle, the government hired thugs, and that's all admitted, and I have cops on tape admitting it, and I have the Seattle Post-Intelligence Service, the Seattle Times, and Seattle Weekly all admitting Delta Force operatives with the Central Intelligence Agency in 1999 at the WTO hired 50 thugs, trained them in Oregon, had them bust out windows, burn trash cans, attack police officers.
00:39:07.000The cops were ordered to stand there as bottles bounced off their heads, and as they bled, as they had broken noses, Total idiots.
00:40:12.000Issued federal Storm Trooper outfits, the Darth Vader helmets and the black pads and the little capes, they even gave them capes.
00:40:20.000And they found psychologically that if you put somebody in a cowboy hat, they'll act like a cowboy.
00:40:24.000You put them in a hunting hat, they'll act like a cowboy.
00:40:26.000You put them in a Darth Vader outfit, they'll act like Darth Vader.
00:40:31.000And so they put them in these outfits, and it's also for intimidation of the public.
00:40:35.000And then the cops were like dogs on the end of a chain that a kid's slapping in the face.
00:40:39.000uh... with a fly swatter and then the chain breaks by then the anarchists have been housed in a government building protected by the police and then the dumb riot cops just beat up, we have them stomping old ladies with pleasure, old ladies doing nothing, hands up walking out of the store and cops just hit them with a club and start stomping them and then they're breaking collar bones.
00:41:01.000You see, all psychologically run as a CIA psy-op bathing you in the evil, indoctrinating you Making you, making your bones, bringing you in, baptizing you in Satanism is what happened to you, putting you in the Darth Vader outfits.
00:41:17.000And so they took that footage and used it nationwide and said, see how bad Seattle is.
00:42:53.000You ought to watch this video we're about to play audio of.
00:42:55.000I'm talking five million dollar houses.
00:42:57.000Things that look like the White House.
00:43:00.000Estates, up out of the bowl, up in the high ground, on the suburbs, and they're going in, shows them with the wealthy people in handcuffs taking their guns.
00:43:10.000But my grandmother's childhood, my great-grandfather's civil war paintings in there, that's worth millions of dollars.
00:43:42.000The point is, if they'll go into high-end drive places where the rich people, I mean the really rich people are, and beat them up and take their guns with the U.S.
00:43:50.000Army, the National Guard, all these other people at Mercs backing them up and taking part, you bet that's a precedent.
00:43:58.000You know, they say all the rules changed with Katrina.
00:44:01.000And see now, oh, we're going to run emergency FEMA centers in your area.
00:44:05.000Oh, we're going to back up your police officers at events.
00:44:09.000And these are guys who've been sniping in Iraq, sniping in Afghanistan.
00:44:13.000Some of them, they're putting the toddlers on the airplanes, flying them out to the slave camps in white Europe.
00:44:19.000You know, a lot of you don't care about the Arabs.
00:44:20.000Okay, well, what about the blonde-haired, blue-eyed, for the racist out there?
00:44:23.000Little kids and women being shipped out of Central and Eastern Europe.
00:44:26.000UN's own numbers of 1.2 million women and children being kidnapped each year.
00:44:30.000Large portion of that done by the security services.
00:44:33.000They got the aircraft, they got the mercs, they got the teams.
00:44:36.000See, these guys that have been running camps and running security camps and doing all these horrible things, they're going to be in your life.
00:45:46.000That's true, Elizabeth, and good evening from New Orleans here.
00:45:50.000The police and the National Guard find themselves in a very difficult position tonight to try to carry out an order to force people from the city without actually using force.
00:46:04.000Today in New Orleans, they got a lot tougher on the holdouts.
00:46:09.000Not only the flooded areas, but New Orleans' driest and wealthiest neighborhoods, too.
00:46:17.000The police and National Guard going street by street, house to house.
00:46:23.000We need to make sure, too, that whenever we knock on doors, people refuse to leave.
00:47:19.000You just never, you never expect to do this in your own country.
00:47:23.000Chris Montgomery says he'd rather be in Iraq than patrolling American neighborhoods.
00:47:30.000Now Bob Woodruff, that's why he was a great propagandist for him, now I got his face blown off over there, get a little bit of the medicine they're giving the Iraqis.
00:47:38.000I'm sorry for him, but being an operative of the New World Order has its cost, Woody.
00:47:44.000Thought you were invincible like all these other people who think they're bulletproof.
00:49:49.000I agree with you that after the next so-called terrorist attack, martial law will be imposed in America.
00:49:55.000I believe the real reason martial law will be imposed is mainly to crush, take out any organized resistance to the New World Order by the following eight groups, organizations and people which I've identified.
00:50:05.000First one, gun owners and second, defense organizations.
00:50:51.000Oh yeah, they can't wait to take your guns.
00:50:54.000They can't wait to break up our families.
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00:54:45.000And again, three years ago, the official treaties were signed with Mexico and Canada to quote, use Mexican troops for dealing with natural disasters and policing America during terrorist attacks.
00:54:59.000And you can read that out of the big, major papers in Canada.
00:55:03.000Canadians are going, we don't want to give up our sovereignty.
00:55:06.000But in America, it's a big, dirty secret.
00:55:09.000The deals are signed to bring foreign troops in here.
00:55:12.000All the unthinkable is slowly being implemented.
00:55:17.000It's like Red Dawn in slow motion, is what I call it.
00:55:20.000Patrick, then we'll go to David, Mike, Jim, and others.
00:55:44.000By destroying all these groups, the New World Order will have a much easier time subjugating any American citizens.
00:55:49.000Well, of the seven groups you named, five of those are on the official FBI flyers, handbooks, training manuals, and different research papers.
00:56:01.000Have you ever seen the famous Phoenix, Arizona handout?
00:56:27.000CBS did a CBS News report on it on their website, but didn't carry it on the show, when Janet Reno did say that everyone who believes in the second coming of Jesus Christ is a terrorist.
00:57:10.000Just, uh, ten minutes short of three hours.
00:57:13.000Just a few minutes of that is a FEMA officer in Kansas City, a fireman shot the video, in a classroom full of firemen and cops and sheriff's deputies saying, quote, all Christians are terrorists, the founding fathers were terrorists, George Washington was a bad terrorist, and we're going to have to fight terrorists like them again.
00:57:31.000Well, I hope members of these groups will finally wake up, because I think, you know, each member of each group is in danger.
00:57:37.000Well, by the way, when this change agent up there with his high and tight, you know, he was rock hard, you know, he was in military shape.
00:57:44.000When this commando type up there in the suits giving the speech, when he starts saying that, because I have like 18 hours of this footage, you know, cops will agree and nod their heads.
00:57:53.000When he starts saying that stuff, because he was testing them to see if he could get any sickos to join him.
00:57:57.000And by the way, we've confirmed they do this nationwide.
00:58:01.000When he starts saying it, the cops start shaking their heads, grunting, shuffling, going, uh, uh, verbally going, I mean, they couldn't even control themselves, uh, uh, look, the New World Order isn't going to be able to take us all down.
00:58:13.000They're not going to get away with that list you just read off.
00:58:17.000Well, they'll take out the official organizations is what I'm saying.
00:58:19.000Well, they're not going to get away with that, brother.
00:58:22.000You know how many organizations and people there are?
00:58:24.000You know how many millions of veterans are just waiting quietly?
00:59:23.000Ted Hancho now at Downsized DC, the group that former Libertarian presidential candidate Harry Brown set up.
00:59:31.000It passed about a week and a half ago.
00:59:32.000He'll be joining us to talk about Libertarian philosophy, Harry Brown's life, and Downsized DC, what they're doing, fighting for our freedom.
01:00:00.000I've seen 11 new documentaries, and I've seen a lot more than that, and I've really been researching a lot of it, and I've been reading a lot, and, uh, Really, I think that we need to get the English out of our Congress, out of our Senate, and out of our President.
01:00:23.000You know, out of our President's, uh, what is that?
01:00:56.000Well yeah, people love to talk about Israel and AIPAC, and they certainly are one of the biggest lobbies, but the British government and allied groups and corporations, they own the most, they are the most powerful, and they're also the best at staying under the radar.
01:01:10.000And also, seriously, we've got to legalize marijuana in this in this country and if that means that we have to write an apologetic letter to all these nations that have foreign you know all these foreign nations that have interest in America then you know that's where it's got to take because we can't be a nation that's controlled by the whole world and not by Americans.
01:01:36.000I hear you and it is about profit that marijuana is illegal and it should be legalized but just because of its medical uses and For the fact, I mean, that's a whole other ball of wax.
01:01:48.000The bigger the drug war gets, the more drugs we have on our streets, folks.
01:01:51.000The only thing I'd like to bring up is, are you willing to run for president?
01:01:55.000I mean... No, I'm not going to run for president.
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01:07:29.000Also, DynCorp, Halliburton, Blackwater, many others, to take over the Sheriff's Departments in America.
01:07:36.000And they'll still be working for DynCorp and others, but they'll be wearing sheriff's deputies uniforms, and it's going to be going nationwide, just like your roads are being handed over to international corporations.
01:07:45.000We're also going to have foreign mercenary armies here wearing police uniforms.
01:07:49.000All the old-timers who were inside the Pentagon and saw the battle plans for this against us decades ago told us this, and exactly what they said would happen is now happening.
01:07:58.000But incrementally, they do it camel's nose under the tent flap.
01:08:26.000We've still got about an hour and 51 minutes left.
01:08:30.000And I know we've got a lot of callers.
01:08:31.000We're going to get to Mike in California and many others that are holding.
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01:08:50.000We're talking to Mike in California, excuse me, who was asking some questions and making some statements Before the break, restate that, Michael, and then we'll try to finish up your call.
01:09:05.000Yeah, I was just saying that they're using the media to send a clear message to the American people.
01:09:10.000Ruby Ridge, Waco, this is what we'll do to you if you rise up.
01:09:17.000I believe they're also using the media to tell us what they're going to do before they do it.
01:09:20.000Next week's episode of 24, the citizens of Los Angeles will be put under curfew.
01:09:27.000You guys, Enemy of the State, the date 9-11 is mentioned towards the end of the movie, especially the movie The Siege with Bruce Willis.
01:09:35.000The CIA lady approaches the hijacking scene of the bus and says, What are they waiting for?
01:09:43.000Oh my gosh, she looks up in the air and she says, Oh my God, they're waiting for the cameras to come.
01:09:48.000I mean, millions of Americans observe the second plane hitting the building.
01:09:55.000I mean, it's all All part of the big plan to... Well, sir, if you're going to bring up those examples, how about... We've had the star, one of the major stars of X-Files and Lone Gunman on, Dean Haglund, in studio, and we videotaped it and put it on the website for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
01:10:13.000As you know, you said you're a member earlier.
01:10:15.000The CIA approached them and planted stories on them, planted Planted themes of shows and clearly they were approached by the government and as was Tom Clancy.
01:10:29.000To have it where hijackers fly planes into the World Trade Center.
01:10:33.000But on their show, the government's really running the attack to blame it on terrorists, and uses real-time drills so the rest of NORAD stands down.
01:10:42.000Now, that exact same thing happened on 9-11.
01:10:47.000The exact same targets hit by the exact same planes at the exact same time.
01:11:05.000The psychological warfare experts know that number one of the thousands of flavors, you know, Baskin-Robbins has got 21 flavors or 30-something flavors.
01:11:14.000Well, the New World Order's got a million flavors.
01:11:17.000But number one, good propaganda speaks to your innate laziness.
01:11:31.000Innate propaganda speaks to your laziness, speaks to you sabotaging yourself, speaks to you subconsciously being afraid and so whitewashing it, making excuses to yourself.
01:11:45.000There's a lot of different psychological terms for that.
01:12:05.000And so, what they do is, they will, with these TV shows, let you know the government's the terrorist, the government's going to kill you, you're a slave, at a certain level.
01:12:19.000But they'll put that out in an entertainment fashion, so then your subconscious picks up on it and is afraid, and is afraid of who you should be afraid of, the government.
01:12:28.000Then at the conscious level, they openly state that they're terrorists that are bad, the government's good, we just want to save you.
01:12:34.000So consciously, you make the excuse, so on the surface, the government's nice, they're my friends, everything's fine, but there's this scary threat out there, and your subconscious is really afraid.
01:12:44.000Your subconscious The sixth sense that, you know, kept our ancestors alive out in the hills picks up on it and goes, yeah, you know what?
01:13:00.000That just focuses in on very small, minute areas.
01:13:04.000It's like your computer is running all these other functions in the background, but whatever function you're actively looking at right now, whatever webpage you're reading right now, is all that the computer is projecting outwards.
01:13:15.000Well, it's the same thing with the brain.
01:14:30.000All the time, these women, you know, the guy walks up with a knife in a parking lot, puts it up to them, alright, lady, everything will be alright.
01:15:45.000Very reserved, very quiet, when they were the most out-of-control Germanic tribes ever.
01:15:49.000It was the Germanic war zone where about eight different Germanic tribes fought with each other for thousands of years and ended up being the most war-like out of that Germanic synthesis.
01:16:00.000But today they're the most domesticated.
01:16:37.000Harry Brown, for several years, had his Harry Brown Report, which I always enjoyed listening to and I've called into.
01:16:43.000A real gentleman who had Lou Gehrig's disease.
01:16:46.000He lived there in Tennessee with his wife and family and wrote Why I Learned to be Free in an Unfree World and many other books that I read 10-15 years ago within that time period.
01:16:57.000And he died March 1st and we mentioned it but haven't done a proper eulogy for him so he's here to do that eulogy and talk about Harry Brown and then we'll get into some of the things Downside DC does and talk about the lobbyist and the Lobbying Reform Act and some things that are happening that affect free speech.
01:17:13.000Jim, sorry, I kind of went off the deep end with that caller's point, but I was trying to get into the levels of manipulation that we're under.
01:17:24.000We're about to go to break, but tell us a little bit about Harry Brown.
01:17:27.000And of course, you co-hosted programs with him and still have Downsides DC here on the network.
01:17:32.000Yeah, I still have Downsides DC on the network and I had the privilege of filling in for him during the last months of his life as his guest host when he was ill.
01:17:39.000We kept hoping he would be able to come back, but about January we realized that wasn't going to happen.
01:17:48.000He was a gentleman, an extraordinary gentleman.
01:17:51.000Who really lived by the values mentioned in the book you mentioned, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World.
01:17:57.000His message was to teach people about freedom.
01:18:00.000He wanted to spread freedom as wide as possible.
01:18:03.000And that's what he devoted himself to.
01:18:04.000And he did it in such a way, there was nobody who turned a soundboard or a phrase better than he did.
01:18:10.000But not only did he have such a good writing style that enabled him to make those phrases, but he spent time practicing them and rehearsing them, and he was ready to give those phrases when he was brought up to a microphone and interviewed like I am now.
01:18:23.000We're going to come back and talk about Harry Brown, and then we'll get into his organization that you and he set up together, Downsize DC, and I'm just honored that Harry Brown was part of this network, the GCN Radio Network, and I'm honored that you're part of it too, Jim.
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01:22:48.000Oh, God, God, God Chris James, Bernie, Paul, gender calls are coming up in the next segment Oh, God Jim Babka is our guest and he hosts Downsized DC.
01:23:10.000You know, before we get back into Harry Brown, tell us a little bit about Downsized DC.
01:23:14.000Well, Downsized DC Foundation and DownsizedDC.org were organizations that were co-founded by Harry Brown.
01:23:19.000And they are after exactly what their name would suggest.
01:23:22.000We want to reduce the size, the scope, the power of the federal government in Washington, D.C.
01:23:27.000And at downsizedc.org, we've given people a mechanism that's very easy to use.
01:23:31.000They simply input their contact information.
01:23:34.000The system tells them who their representative and two senators are and allows them to send a personalized message on issues that we're informing them about.
01:23:56.000Start becoming an activist, and that's how you open up a much larger world.
01:24:01.000Now, Harry had had the Lou Gehrig's disease for quite a while, and I remember, he wouldn't talk about it, it was almost on the air, so I was driving along one Saturday night, or was it Sunday night?
01:24:14.000And I called into the network, called into the toll-free line as a caller, as I routinely do, and found he was hosting it from his hospital bed.
01:24:22.000And I guess that was one of the last shows, that was late last year, that he did.
01:24:27.000Tell us about some of his final weeks, if you can, because people are interested in that.
01:24:32.000Well, he found out that he was sick back in June and he was hospitalized the entire month of July and unable to do a show.
01:24:39.000And there were other times he was hospitalized as well, but he considered the show his baby.
01:24:43.000And up until December, every time that he was healthy enough to be able to sit up in his bed and talk, he wanted to be able to do the show.
01:24:51.000And so there were a couple times I co-hosted with him to help him through the hour in case he got too tired, but he really wanted to be here.
01:24:58.000He was passionate about what he had to say.
01:25:22.000We ought to get that out of the network archives and I ought to play... Can we play parts of that last show sometime in the next few weeks?
01:26:24.000Now, I was surprised by how much international attention his death got.
01:26:30.000Well, you know, a lot of people don't remember this.
01:26:32.000I'm too young to remember it, but he was a best-selling author in the 1970s and appeared on television and so forth, and so he was a columnist in Los Angeles in the 1960s.
01:26:41.000I mean, he was not a, you know, he was something of a celebrity.
01:26:47.000Well, he certainly still is, and before his death was.
01:26:52.000And I tell you, that sounds like an interesting last program that he did on the War on Terror, and it's straw men.
01:26:58.000Some of the things you guys helped introduce were laws that you tried to get passed where, wow, Congress would have to actually read the bills they pass.
01:27:06.000Yeah, that's our signature piece of legislation, Alex, the Read the Bills Act.
01:27:10.000And not only would they have to read it, but they would have to actually sit through a literal reading by the clerk, meaning that they would have to start picking and choosing what they were doing.
01:27:17.000Congress passed last year 13,998 individual pieces of pork.
01:27:24.000If every one of those conservatively took a minute to read under our legislation, they would have to, during the time that they're in session right now, be meeting between an hour and an hour and a half a day just listening to the reading of those earmarks.
01:27:36.000We want to force them to begin making choices and not to do as many things as they do.
01:27:41.000And by the way, EarMarks is just scratching the surface.
01:27:45.000They pass bills every year that are thousands of pages long, openly written by the lobbyist, and then they just sign off on it.
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01:32:01.000Last, what, Friday, passed a law, we mentioned it but didn't play this clip, stating that the state will not go under federal national ID card controls, which, that law was passed last year, and the state is in revolt against the unconstitutional, abominable Real ID Act, which federalizes all of our IDs and puts RFID in them to track them.
01:32:25.000And next hour we do have Gary Brownfield coming on with us, an expert on this subject, host of the Gary Brownfield Show, to talk about animal ID and premises ID.
01:32:34.000And I have the official Department of Agriculture documents where they say the RFID is satellite tracked via the cell towers.
01:32:42.000They triangulate it, they read the chips.
01:32:44.000You have to put a $10 tag on a $5 chicken.
01:32:49.000A $10 tag on an $800 cow, it's worth it.
01:32:52.000And then it's going to track everything you do.
01:33:10.000My intention is that this will be the last bill of the day.
01:33:16.000The Committee on Transportation to which was referred, House Bill 1582, an act prohibiting New Hampshire from participating in a National Identification Card System, having considered the same, report the same with the following resolution.
01:33:30.000Resolve that it is inexpedient to legislate.
01:33:33.000Representative Sherman Packard for the Committee.
01:33:36.000The question before the House is the adoption of the Committee Report.
01:33:51.000Mr. Speaker, I commend the Honorable Member from Londonderry for his exceptionally well-written blurb.
01:33:59.000He's described accurately and in great detail the consequences for our state if this bill is adopted, and the reason why the Transportation Committee, by an 18-to-1 vote, determined that the bill be inexpedient to legislate.
01:34:14.000I rise to ask you to overturn that report.
01:34:18.000There are times, Mr. Speaker, when we must look beyond the mundane and the pragmatic and take a stand based on our values and our vision for the state we are and the kind of state we wish to become.
01:34:32.000And I believe this is one of those times.
01:34:37.000It says that the state of New Hampshire will not participate in the Real ID driver's license program established by the federal government.
01:34:47.000The Real ID program creates a de facto national identification card.
01:34:53.000It does so by making the 50 state's driver's licenses meet uniform federal standards.
01:34:59.000Among other things, they must be machine readable, and all of the data, not just name, photograph, address, but driver's records, violations, suspension, and points, must be entered into an interstate database And shared with all other states and the federal government.
01:35:20.000Of course, being machine readable, merchants and others will be in possession of this information when they require your driver's license for identification and scan your card into their readers.
01:35:33.000I don't believe that the people of New Hampshire elected us to help the federal government create a national identification card.
01:35:40.000We care more for our liberties Then to meekly hand over to the federal government the potential to enumerate, track, identify, and eventually control.
01:35:50.000But there's a price to be paid for such independence.
01:35:55.000If we don't participate in the Real ID system, we will have to use passports or other similar documentation to gain access to federal properties and to use air transportation.
01:36:17.000But Jim, I wanted to play that because I still get emails from people when I say they passed the National ID Card Law last year.
01:36:24.000We had three congressmen on talking about it.
01:36:26.000We read the bill on air saying it isn't true.
01:36:29.000You see, they're in such denial about the police state that they just say it doesn't exist.
01:36:34.000Jim Babka of DownsizeDC.org, your comments.
01:36:37.000Well, you know, part of the reason that they are able to say that is that the Fabian tactics of the politicians gradually, excuse me, implements these things.
01:36:48.000They told the states that all their systems were going to be standardized and follow a federal format.
01:36:54.000So you're still going to get your driver's license from Illinois and that is enough for them to hide behind.
01:37:02.000But the database system, this quote, standardizing is a federal ID number with biometrics and a chip, all run by the same system, so it really is federal.
01:37:14.000They're gonna, you know, you give politicians an inch, they take 5,000 miles.
01:37:17.000I mean, they didn't specify, from what I understand, they didn't specify the biometrics in the bill itself, but they didn't say they couldn't do it either, and we can all expect that it will happen.
01:37:25.000Well, actually, it says through the standardization that it has to follow certain standards and there are biometrics involved.
01:37:31.000When you read it, it says standards, and when you go to the subsection of what those Transportation Department standards are, it is.
01:37:36.000We had Ron Paul on for about 30 minutes on the subject last year when he valiantly tried to defeat it.
01:37:42.000He also talked about how it sets up federal checkpoints on the roads, similar to what the TSA does there in the airports on our highways.
01:37:51.000And I'm sure you've now heard of the federal Viper teams, Jim?
01:37:55.000The TSA teams are now on the streets of America?
01:37:58.000Yes, and you know, the Real Idea Act, though, you're touching a nerve with this one.
01:38:03.000Of all the campaigns that we've done, this one seemed to engender the most hatred and anger from our people.
01:38:51.000Downsized DC is We've got an article up March 12th called Good Bill, Bad Bill, Raw Deal.
01:38:59.000And they're not going to stop the lobbyists.
01:39:00.000It's like the Campaign Finance Reform Act that George Bush signed, that Democrats wrote.
01:39:05.000It stops individuals from giving money.
01:39:10.000but then allows corporations to double the amount of money that they're giving.
01:39:15.000It actually restricts free speech under the supposed bill and law.
01:39:20.000I can't say interview someone who's 501c3, like Gunners of America, 60 days before an election.
01:39:28.000Of course, we've just ignored that, but it was a major free speech attacking piece of legislation.
01:39:33.000But then it doubled the amount of money that lobbyists could give.
01:39:36.000But because it has the name reform in it, people go for it.
01:39:40.000Now we're hearing there's this reform, the lobbyist law, but in reality what does that really do?
01:39:46.000Well, what it really does is it restricts the American people.
01:39:49.000Section 105 of John McCain's version of this proposal actually would affect organizations like Gun Owners America that you just mentioned or DownsizedDC.org or others that are organizing the grassroots.
01:40:00.000We would have to begin calling and treating the people who support us as quote-unquote clients.
01:40:05.000And we would have to file complicated reports four times a year that we don't have to file at all right now.
01:40:10.000We would have to notify in advance the Congress what we're planning to do so our opposition and the folks on Capitol Hill would be aware of what we were planning and what we were doing.
01:40:20.000dollar lobbying firms headed up by people like Abramoff, they're going to have no problem having a couple secretaries on that and a law clerk.
01:40:28.000But you talk about little grassroots organizations.
01:40:31.000I mean, we advocate and tell people to call.
01:40:33.000I guess that could be called lobbying DC.
01:40:49.000Supreme Court and we said they're going to end up, one of the arguments we made was they're going to end up interpreting this to mean the internet as well and anything else that they can quote-unquote put under the phrase electronic.
01:40:59.000A judge ruled that last year and this week the FEC is going to come out with their internet rights.
01:41:06.000Well you know they've got a new bill that they're very close to passing where if you report on any even unclassified intelligence activities they can retroactively classify it.
01:41:40.000We're only going to use it on terrorists and foreigners.
01:41:43.000But then now, federal judges are ruling, no, all crimes, all misdemeanors, no more Bill of Rights, we can use the Patriot Act.
01:41:49.000Well, it's the same thing with this other bill.
01:41:52.000You know, they say, well, just because the bill says that, don't worry, we're not going to really do that.
01:41:56.000You know, you're reminding me of something else.
01:41:58.000The Downsize DC Foundation has signed on to an amicus brief to help the United Seniors Association get a case heard before the Supreme Court.
01:42:05.000And in this case, the Social Security Administration fined the United Seniors Association a half a million dollars because they sent out a mailing that said social security on the outside of it.
01:42:15.000They said you didn't have permission to use our words.
01:42:17.000Now, you know, they act like they have a trademark or a copyright.
01:42:19.000This is a government organization in a government that is supposedly owned by the people and it was an information mailing but they said it was an attempt to mislead and scare seniors fine them a half million dollars and this has been held up all the way to the Supreme Court and now they're trying to get the Supreme Court to hear it.
01:42:34.000This is the United Seniors Association versus the Social Security Administration.
01:42:38.000Was Harry Brown who died March 1st one of the icons in the Libertarian Party the last 20-30 years, I mean was he shocked like he was in the twilight zone Because I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone all the time, Jim, whenever I see the crazy things that are going on.
01:42:55.000Yeah, but you know, he was, but at the same time he was very...
01:43:01.000He was extremely upbeat and believed that all of this stuff was going to work out and that the solution was coming and part of what he was out there doing was speaking because he believed the next Thomas Jefferson and the next Edison and so forth, the people who have helped build this country were out there to be found and he just wanted to keep preaching that message of freedom.
01:43:23.000Booking First Amendment, Fourth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment and it goes on.
01:43:30.000To state that they're now reclassifying First and Fourth Amendment activities as Fifth Columnist.
01:43:34.000It says, quote, in the near future, maybe next week, it will be a good idea to stay away from John Young's Cryptom website.
01:43:41.000Young's site often posts articles on surveillance, cryptography, and information on the military and intelligence community.
01:43:47.000It appears Senator Mike DeWine, Republican of Ohio, and others, Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, who owns the voting machine company that people vote for him on, are pushing legislation to prosecute anyone who intentionally discloses information identifying or describing NSA's SNOOP program or any other SNOOP program conducted under the 1978 surveillance law, according to the Associated Press, under quote, boosted penalties.
01:44:15.000Those found guilty could face fines up to one million.
01:44:18.000And see, I was going for memories, so I dug this out.
01:44:20.000I knew I had My memory's been kind of off a little lately, folks.
01:44:24.000I've been working too much, so I... I said, wait, I said one million and five years.
01:44:42.000In fact, according to Kate Martin, Director of the Center for National Security Studies, the language of the proposed legislation does not specify that the information has to be harmful to national security or classified.
01:44:52.000Lucy Daglish, Executive Director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press told the Associated Press that legislation would allow the government to prosecute even if you read a story in the paper.
01:45:02.000And passed it along to your brother-in-law.
01:45:05.000See, it makes information gathering illegal.
01:45:07.000That was actually already illegal in the first Patriot Act, as I put in my analysis, and it goes on.
01:45:14.000And then it's got Lindsey Graham saying, don't worry, this isn't for citizens.
01:45:20.000But then we have his quote saying, quote, fifth columnists are people that protest the war and need to be arrested.
01:45:52.000That they're going to use DynCorp and Blackwater mercs to take over entire Sheriff's Departments and be the Sheriff's Departments in America?
01:46:00.000I had Larry Pratt come on my show and talk about what went on down in New Orleans and that tape you played, I happened to hear it for the first hour of the show today.
01:46:07.000I want that tape for my show from ABC.
01:46:11.000It's incredible what they're willing to do.
01:46:44.000All they need is the right crisis, and I'm curious, Alex, when the right crisis is going to come.
01:46:50.000I mean, the other thing that Harry Brown was extremely passionate about was the war, and right now there is a drive using very similar sets of excuses to go have another war with Iran.
01:46:59.000When is the terrorist incident going to happen, or whatever, that sets this whole thing off?
01:47:37.000And every time you see this, I mean, Tony Blair was in deep trouble politically, and they have the subway incident happen, and all of a sudden he's popular again.
01:47:48.000Even former top anti-terrorism chief at the FBI and Justice Department expert, we had John Locke this on, and I said, the government's doing this, and he said, I can't disagree with you, Alex.
01:48:01.000How much is open to debate, but they're clearly knew about it and bare minimum let it happen.
01:48:06.000I mean, in every case, Madrid, London, in both those cases the entire people engaging in the bombing are involved with or work for intelligence or are on the bomb squad.
01:48:20.000And that's why we need to downsize DC.
01:48:21.000It's my constant refrain at downsizedc.org.
01:48:24.000We believe that government hurts, but that the free market and private enterprise and neighbors working together does work.
01:48:31.000It's much preferable and that's the direction you want to go.
01:48:33.000The problem is the government is a gang with a flag aiming a gun at us, telling us they're going to give us a service, but then when a woman calls 911 saying the man's busting in to kidnap me, help me, the police don't come, and then when they find the woman gutted and raped and murdered, They just say, oh, well, we don't have any liability to protect you, but we want your guns.
01:48:54.000We don't have to protect you, plus they can't protect us, but they want our guns, Jim.
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01:56:27.000Well, you know, again, I think the most extraordinary thing was the fact that they came in and took over with guns, and one of the things that really bothered me was they kept labeling it as anarchy, and anarchy, look it up in the dictionary, is an absence of government.
01:56:38.000This was not anarchy, this was chaos, and chaos is imposed by government.
01:57:55.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:57:59.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:05.000Well, he's had a career of, I don't know, 40-something years of broadcasting.
01:58:09.000He's been an ag teacher, run his own farm and ranches.
01:58:12.000Gary Brownfield, talk about the animal ID and the premises ID acts coming through at the federal and state levels.
01:58:18.000Really scary stuff coming up in the next segment.
01:58:22.000Jim Babka, he has his own radio program here on the weekends on Genesis and the website is downsizedc.org.
01:58:28.000He was colleagues with Harry Brown who was a big libertarian icon who died on March 1st of Lou Gehrig's disease.
01:58:36.000At his home with his family in Tennessee, and Jim is still carrying the torch, one of the co-founders with him.
01:58:42.000Jim, I want to take a few calls from James and Paul and Jim here, but real quick, tell us when your radio show comes on on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:17.000Yeah, and free trade doesn't require a stack of government documents and a whole new bureaucracy to be created.
02:00:23.000Free trade is when someone decides that they want to buy something from someone else, and the other person wants to sell it, they agree on a price, and they're done.
02:01:21.000Yes, what downsizedc.org is all about is about going around the electoral process and focusing on putting the pressure on the people in office, making it mind-numbing and relentless.
02:01:32.000Yeah, a lot of people are saying it's going to be the governor of Virginia.
02:01:37.000Yeah, he's the most centrist, and he's in the South, and I think he kind of follows the pattern of Clinton.
02:01:42.000I think the Democrats want him, and I think George Bush has really hurt the Republican chances.
02:01:46.000I agree with you, and he went to the Bilderberg last year, and he's going this year, we're told.
02:01:52.000He'll be knighted right there, and he's sworn in by Beelzebub himself.
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02:05:44.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:05:50.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:05:55.000Well, Jim Babka is riding shotgun with us right now from downside DC.org.
02:06:05.000A group that he co-founded with Harry Brown, the late libertarian icon who died at his home in Tennessee March 1st, leaving behind a wife and many children and of course best-selling author and just a real gentleman, a good friend of mine.
02:06:18.000The times I've met him personally and had him on as a guest, so we've been kind of eulogizing him while talking about the police state.
02:06:23.000And now, for the rest of this hour, I am honored on short notice to be joined by the illustrious Gary Brownfield, because I've been trying to get these local lawyers, these local veterinarians on, people that are fighting it at the Texas level with this Animal ID Act, and they're just all afraid to come on.
02:06:39.000They're like, well I'll be down there at the legislature, I'll be down at the meeting, but I just don't want to get them too mad at me.
02:07:20.000It goes, under the guise of public health and national security... Oh, by the way, the headline is, Big Brother is watching the children's pig.
02:07:28.000Under the guise of public health and national security, the new federal program isn't couched this way these days.
02:07:35.000Department of Agriculture has Inundated the National Animal Identification System, the program applies to anyone who owns or handles food animals and livestock, veterinarians included.
02:07:48.000Any property owner who has livestock is being encouraged, for now it's just an invitation, it's not really true, but by January 2008 it could be mandatory, unless the program is derailed, to register the physical location with the government and to electronically tag on-site animals so their movements can be tracked through global positioning satellites.
02:08:08.000And it goes on to say, Howard Garnett isn't just passionate about organic gardening and how to rid Texas yards on the fire ant scourge.
02:08:17.000The dirt doctor of radio fame, WBAP 820, I listened to him when I was a kid, is hopping mad about federal animal registration program he calls a bureaucratic boondoggle.
02:08:29.000And I've got the National Identification System, USDA, little yellow, kind of burnt orange handout, 14 pages.
02:08:37.000I have the Premises Identification, USDA, APHIS, United States Department of Agriculture handout.
02:08:44.000And we've got the minutes of state board meetings they've had.
02:08:48.000The state just signed over total authority to them.
02:08:51.000In the last legislature, and they're saying, at the state level, again the feds go, oh it'll be voluntary until 2008, but we're going to lobby the states to make it the law.
02:09:02.000You'll have to pay for this, and then for the veterinarian to render any care, you'll have to pay for this, to leave your house with your horse, you'll have to call ahead and tell Big Brother you're leaving, the cell towers will track these chips and triangulate with the satellites.
02:09:14.000I mean, I just read the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, boys and girls.
02:09:23.000And every time we're about to have another meeting to get our feedback and they learn 500 of us are going to show up, they keep cancelling it.
02:09:30.000So the man who's been watching this nationwide and tracking it for the last few years, I heard him years ago talking about this, is Darry Brownfield.
02:09:40.000Hey, thanks for having me on the air, Alex.
02:09:44.000I just came back from a meeting that we held last night, just a little local thing, but people are getting upset about this and there's plenty of reason to.
02:09:55.000You know, I kind of have to laugh at you guys in Texas because you are the people that really kept the scales and I think your Texas Animal Health Committee probably has done more to wake up the nation than anything that has happened up to this point.
02:10:13.000Because that obnoxious, stupid, ridiculous law that was passed in Texas, you know, when we're going to tag Grandma's little canary because it's a bird and it could get the bird flu, we need to know where it is.
02:10:26.000I mean, that really tipped their hand as to what is going on here.
02:10:31.000I mean, if people think the IRS is bad, this is a whole new class.
02:10:40.000This whole thing's being pushed by big agribusiness to shut down the small producers when their own international numbers show the bird flu and other big outbreaks and problems are caused by the big ultra-farms.
02:10:55.000The ranch and farm my family runs in northeast Texas doesn't cause problems.
02:11:00.000It's the big You'll fill the operations ado.
02:11:02.000Well, it's the Tyson's and the Cargill's and the Smithfield's and those are the people that put tens of thousands and in the case of poultry, millions of birds together in just one little area, you know.
02:11:14.000But anyway, let me give your listeners a little bit of economic, animal, agriculture history right quickly.
02:11:24.000But back when I was a kid, before you were around, Alex, But your parents can tell you, everybody on the farm had a few of about everything in the way of animals and poultry.
02:11:51.000And then along comes The great integrators, the multinational corporations, back in those days they weren't necessarily multinational, they were just the big agricultural corporations.
02:12:04.000But they took over the poultry industry.
02:12:06.000When I was with the Department of Agriculture in the state of Missouri back in 1962 and 3 and 4, we'd get out a chicken and egg report every day.
02:12:14.000We called it the poultry and egg report.
02:12:16.000We could tell you what eggs were worth on different markets, what broiler chickens were worth on different markets, what killing hens, you know, butcher hens were worth.
02:12:24.000Today there is no such thing as a poultry market because the integrators have taken these poultry And put them in their integrated houses, and the only people today that are in the poultry business are either working for or contracted to the Cargills of Tyson's, the Perdue's, and those kinds of operators.
02:13:06.000They've got the slaughter cattle market pretty well under control, but to grow cattle, and this is something that the typical American has been misled.
02:13:16.000They talk about how many pounds of grain it takes to produce a pound of beef, and we ought to be feeding that grain to the poor folks over in Indonesia and what have you.
02:13:54.000They can't fix the market on the feeder cattle.
02:13:57.000So once this thing goes into effect, where they put a tag or a chip or whatever it happens to be in every animal's ear, then they're going to know when that animal, if you go back and read your... And then they can start heaping more regulation on to knock out the people that got 20 cattle.
02:14:17.000It's to control the entire food supply here in the United States of America.
02:14:22.000And not only here in America, it's around the world.
02:14:24.000You see, a lot of people say, oh, this is an American thing, the Department of Agriculture got it going, you know, and yes, the Department of Agriculture was instrumental.
02:14:33.000Let me read you just a little clip here.
02:14:35.000Now, this came from Gary, we've got about 45 minutes left.
02:15:06.000Jim, listening to this in closing, your organization, of course, co-founded with the late Harry Brown, and you've been here today with us eulogizing him.
02:15:13.000In closing, what do you think of this National Animal ID Act and Premises ID Act?
02:15:41.000The only way that I can see possibly to stop it And we've got the odds against us, because Congress thinks the American Farm Bureau Federation is a farm organization.
02:15:53.000National Cattlemen's Beef Association is a packer organization, although they use our check-off dollars every time we sell a calf, they get a buck out of it, and they're using it to fight us.
02:16:04.000They're using this to try to get this thing passed.
02:16:07.000We also have Digital Angel in there that's putting millions and millions of dollars into Into the politicians' coffers to get this passed.
02:17:14.000Alex, I'm one of those people that are completely, 100% computer illiterate.
02:17:21.000Well, it's a nice website, and I think your webmaster's doing a great job.
02:17:25.000It's purdy, too, so we've got a link to it up on InfoWars.com on the main page, and people should visit it.
02:17:31.000There's lots of good straight talk there about how the ignorance is going to see you, right, Derry?
02:17:36.000Hey, sometimes it's in full bloom, isn't it?
02:17:39.000We'll be right back with another segment with Derry.
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02:21:46.000They have one of their agencies say, "We'll give you federal money, states, if you implement this." And the legislature says, "Okay." Passes a law given some little unelected board total power.
02:21:57.000Then they say, "Hey, we're going to make you take the chips." We're going to have a satellite track.
02:22:06.000And this is the federal plan, and there are so many families I know out in Fredericksburg, or out in Milano, or out in places like Johnson City, or you can go out to Fairfield, Texas, or Buffalo, Texas, where I know farming and ranching communities.
02:22:22.000So many people drive bulldozers during the day, and they have maybe 50, 60 cows.
02:22:27.000You know, back on a piece of family property, they're able to pay the taxes with the money from those cows.
02:22:32.000They're able to buy a new farm truck every six, seven years with that.
02:22:36.000They're able to maybe pay for a tractor with that, or maybe buy their kids new clothes.
02:23:03.000I was going to, before we had to run a moment ago... Yeah, read that quote.
02:23:08.000Yeah, I was going to read a quote from Jim Farley, because just to show you what has been going on in the history of this animal ID.
02:23:15.000Now Jim Farley is now the Livestock Program Director for the Illinois Farm Bureau, but 10 years ago he served as co-chairman of the first Info ID Expo.
02:23:27.000Louis, Missouri more than 10 years ago and here's what he writes.
02:23:30.000At that time we were introduced, we introduced a wealth of technology to the industry and started building the framework which would ultimately become National Animal ID System.
02:23:45.000Just to show you that this is a global project.
02:23:49.000We have had the Animal ID going on in Australia.
02:23:54.000They started six years ago down there.
02:23:57.000The European communities had Animal ID for three or four years.
02:24:02.000Canada's had it for a couple of years.
02:24:04.000Other countries have had it and it's because it is sponsored by these same corporations.
02:24:10.000It's a national or the multinational corporations that are in the Animal food business.
02:24:16.000Well, we talked about that last hour, just on every issue.
02:24:20.000The lobbyists come pay off the politicians to get the laws they want, and the same lobbyists go to the state level and do the exact same thing.
02:24:28.000And I've read over in Europe and Australia, they're arresting farmers using satellites, trackers.
02:24:33.000I mean, they're under a hellish system.
02:24:35.000Well, they're doing the same thing right here in the United States.
02:24:40.000I saw articles where they're using satellites to spy on farmers in Colorado.
02:24:43.000Well, any place where they grow these biotechnical seed crops.
02:24:50.000Like Monsanto is one of the worst enemies that the farmer has.
02:24:54.000But this is a global thing and it's set up on a global basis.
02:24:58.000The multinational corporations that are in the food business don't care whether they buy cattle out of Australia, Argentina, wherever it happens to be.
02:25:07.000They want to buy where they can get the cheapest.
02:25:43.000They just make Americans do it like everything else, and then just like China's got all of our engineering and all of our manufacturing now, well, it's going to be the same thing.
02:25:53.000In fact, already, Darry, I'm right here in the middle of Texas with farms and ranches everywhere, and already about half the food I see at the grocery stores from Mexico.
02:26:52.000No, you're doing it as more or less as a hobby or something to kind of go along with what you're doing and you want to say, hey, it's all American and I agree with that 100%, but...
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02:27:04.000Well, it's also because Americans are so stupid.
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02:31:07.000We're going to go back to him in just a minute.
02:31:08.000I said I'd play a few minutes of this.
02:31:09.000And later this week, if John reminds me, I'll probably play 20 minutes of it or so.
02:31:14.000This is Harry Brown's Last broadcast, before he had to totally quit with Lou Gehrig's disease, and this was a few months ago, and he died on March 1st at his home in Tennessee, so I thought I'd just play a few minutes of this.
02:31:30.000This is Jim, who was on with us last hour, co-hosting because he was so sick that on some of his last broadcasts, he'd have to quit.
02:31:38.000He was doing it from his hospital bed in Tennessee.
02:31:41.000So you talk about toughing it out and really never even telling anybody that he was sick.
02:31:48.000Well, let's get right back into it because I know Harry Brown's got a lot to say to you here tonight.
02:31:54.000We've been talking about whether or not there really is a war on terror.
02:31:59.000You know, Harry, we worked together on a project called TruthAboutWar.org, and at that site, which was frozen in time when the firing started, the shock and awe campaign in Iraq.
02:32:15.000Right, we froze the page, so it's still there for people to go and see after they get past the flash page.
02:32:21.000From the home page on, it's been frozen.
02:32:23.000We talked about this and it seems to me at the time it was fairly obvious to anybody who had any understanding what the dynamics of Iraq were that this situation was going to be a problem.
02:32:34.000You've got a country that's two-thirds basically Shia or Shiite and the remaining balance is split between the Sunnis and the Kurds.
02:32:42.000The Sunnis were actually the smallest group and potentially the most moderate.
02:32:46.000This idea that there was going to be a right-wing religious leadership emerging in the country seemed obvious at the time.
02:32:54.000Yeah, and that the dominoes would fall.
02:32:59.000Most all of it has come to pass just as so many people predicted, not just us, but we were fortunate in having a place where people could go and get a lot of good information and a lot of good insights because what The press was giving and what the politicians were saying and what the foreign leaders were acting on was 90% what the Bush administration was saying.
02:33:25.000And here was an opportunity to get insights and a bit of history.
02:33:30.000There are so many people out there who understand the history of Iraq.
02:33:34.000People like Eric Margolis or Robert Siegel or Charlie Reese.
02:33:39.000Uh, who have taken the trouble to understand the background of what was going on and to point out, you can't just walk in there.
02:33:46.000They're not going to throw flowers at you as you march down the main street of Baghdad.
02:33:53.000That's not the way it's going to work, because this has all happened before, and it didn't turn out this way, and it's not going to turn out this way this time.
02:34:01.000Well, no, Harry, I understand now that... Alright, so, again, we'll learn more of that later this week.
02:34:06.000I just got the editor today to play some of his last broadcast.
02:34:16.000Now, now, Derry Brownfield, I want to get back into Animal ID, but since I played that clip, as I promised I would last hour, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
02:34:23.000The whole Iraq War situation, actually, the PNAC documents and other documents put out by these globalists, clearly, You know, I don't know enough about it.
02:34:35.000and that that's what they wanted, to balkanize and weaken that region and then just build permanent military bases to guard the oil being taken out of the region.
02:34:50.000I do know this, that a lot of it has to do with the American dollar and the ability of our American dollar to stand up against foreign currencies.
02:35:02.000And it looked like Saddam Hussein, in fact I think he did actually, say that he was going to switch on his oil deals from the American dollar to the Euro.
02:35:14.000And that's exactly what Iraq is wanting to do at the present time.
02:36:28.000Almost half of the sheriff's deputies are going to be Dine Corps, under Dine Corps command, wearing sheriff's deputies uniforms.
02:36:36.000You see, when we have a sovereign nation and a sovereign state, the county sheriff is the top commander, as far as law enforcement is, in that county.
02:36:51.000The highway patrol can't come in without asking the sheriff.
02:36:55.000But again, the federal government buys off the sheriff.
02:36:57.000They say, well, you know, we can get you a couple of new cars and some radios and some equipment, and, you know, you just kind of have to go along with this.
02:37:04.000And the sheriff says, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea, boy.
02:38:40.000We're way off the subject of animal ID here, but my grandmother See, they were all born back about 1860, somewhere along there, right during the Civil War.
02:38:49.000They remember, my grandfather could remember the Civil War.
02:38:52.000He was just a little kid, but he could remember.
02:38:54.000And my grandmother said that they hung somebody at the Cooper County Courthouse lawn, on the Cooper County Courthouse lawn, and they let school out.
02:39:05.000And the hall of school children went down and they watched this public hanging.
02:40:24.000I want to take some calls with specific listeners.
02:40:26.000I know we've got Paul and Jim and Benny and others.
02:40:29.000We're going to get to you in just a second, but if you specifically want to talk about REAL ID Act and Premises Act 1-800-259-9231 We'll get you up and on the air.
02:40:38.000But, Derry, as if you're talking to a bunch of dumbbells, and we're all pretty smart, but we're not experts on this subject like you are.
02:40:44.000For those that just joined us and don't know what it is, just recap nationally what it is, how Texas has fallen to the enemy, how we're pathetic idiots, because that's what we are.
02:40:52.000We need to be told we took a hook, line, and sinker so we can wake up and be ashamed and stop this, and then tell us what this is going to do.
02:40:59.000For those that don't know, I'm looking at the actual documents.
02:41:02.000It's hell on earth, but, Derry, tell us about it.
02:41:04.000Well, your Texas law is worse than what the federal law said.
02:41:08.000The federal law just wants to... First of all, you have to have a premise ID.
02:41:13.000You will not be able to buy or sell without a premise ID.
02:41:17.000You say, well, I'm going to the sale bar and I'm going to buy a calf and I'm going to bring him home and butcher him.
02:41:21.000Okay, you go to the sale barn, and before you pay for that calf, you've got to have a premise ID, so the government knows right where that calf is.
02:41:29.000If you take a calf to the sale barn, and you want to sell that calf, they can't take him unless he is coming off of a farm that has a premise ID, and he's going to have to have the calf number in his ear, or under the skin, or however they're going to do it.
02:41:51.000It goes right back to, and here's what I think is happening.
02:41:56.000I can see the handwriting on the wall.
02:41:59.000And we know that we're going into a one world government, into a new world order.
02:42:04.000And we know that when we have this one world leader, he is going to make sure that every individual has a mark.
02:42:11.000They're going to have to be identified.
02:42:15.000They're already talking about making all employees take a chip, but for now, Homeland Security wants you with your new national ID card to have RFID to have any job, and then bosses will have to scan that each day.
02:42:28.000We didn't have time, and we're going to run out of time here, but this Digital Angel, they have the electronic tags, they have the scanners, they have the database.
02:42:36.000What I think they're doing, and I think the world leaders are behind this, and the world leaders... This is the infrastructure for the scanners under the cover of premises identification.
02:42:47.000If they can get the animals all identified and get this thing to work into a database...
02:42:52.000Then they can say, okay, this is for animal health, now we have control of the animals, everything's fine, now let's get control of the people the same way.
02:43:00.000Yeah, see, it works so well stopping the bird flu and everything else, now we can stop human pandemics with this, and then that ties into the forced inoculation under the Model State Health Emergency Powers Act, Gary, you're absolutely right.
02:43:13.000And I want people to understand, I'm looking at the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, they did their own analysis, and they admit Well, you'll only have the one chip, the way I see it.
02:43:21.000tracked by the cell towers and then track it by satellite.
02:43:25.000This is the control grid and Digital Angel and Applied Digital Solutions is lobbying to make you take a chip every time you go in the hospital. - Well, you'll only have the one chip the way I see it.
02:43:37.000But you know, they've indoctrinated the people to where they want them.
02:43:41.000Weekly Reader, Weekly Reader is a little publication.
02:43:44.000I don't know, did you take Weekly Reader when you were in grade school?
02:43:48.000I know Time Magazine and Newsweek for Kids both have run two stories apiece telling kids in the future they will all have chips and quote, don't listen to your parents, they're just backwards, chips are cool.
02:44:01.000January 6, 2000, Army report that went out, they said that they're going to use fads to convince everyone to take chips, and that the military is going to oversee a chipped American population.
02:44:13.000Well, the Weekly Reader did a poll, some 2,000 plus kids answered it.
02:44:20.00085% of these fourth graders said, yeah, we'd like to have the chip.
02:44:41.000And you know, the Mennonites and the Amish, with their animals, they say if you put the chip in the animal, it's the same as putting it in the people, because the people own the animals, and they say they're going to lose their They're going to lose their salvation if they do that.
02:44:57.000And of course, CPS is already grabbing their kids and harassing them, and they're under attack.
02:45:01.000So, anyway... By the way, Darryl, you've done big reports on CPS coming into big mainstream Christian private schools and grabbing kids.
02:45:10.000And of course, they've been losing in court now, getting sued.
02:45:13.000But, I mean, America's turning into a hellish pit!
02:45:16.000Yeah, child protection has probably ruined more homes Than any other one organization or any other one thing that's ever happened.
02:45:25.000But Darryl, when you were a young man, did you ever in your wildest dreams imagine that Russia could even be this weird?
02:46:44.000I tuned in late, but I didn't know if you've covered this, that Burlington Northern Santa Fe wants to open a second port in Kansas City.
02:46:53.000Oh yeah, for those who don't know, they call them ports, but they're these big international railheads, and Mexico will have first dibs on that.
02:47:29.000Now, Darryl, go ahead and tell us about it.
02:47:30.000Well, I was just going to say, the one that I'm really familiar with that goes into the smart port there in Kansas, in Kansas City, is going to be running on Interstate 35.
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02:51:54.000Gary Brownfield is such an amazing individual.
02:51:56.000For people who don't know who he is, listening in Chicago or L.A.
02:52:00.000or places like that right now, I've got to get him back up sometime for two hours just to take calls.
02:52:04.000Phones have been loaded before he got on with us.
02:53:24.000And the sad thing is that they should have realized what was taking place before it became a law.
02:53:32.000But I would almost bet you that if enough people show up and enough people do the right things and say the right things to the right folks, they can get this changed in Texas.
02:53:41.000Well, now they're just canceling all the quote meetings where they claim that we're supposed to give our public input.
02:53:46.000So now they're just not having the meetings.
02:53:48.000They just keep canceling them, canceling them.
02:53:50.000I guess I get the same information you do.
02:53:53.000They were going to have one back in May, and then they moved it up to the 23rd or something of March, and they said no, they're going to not have it at all.
02:54:02.000These people are concerned, and I even understand there's a move on just to do away with the entire animal health division there in the Department of Agriculture in Texas.
02:54:12.000Yeah, what we need to do is, the problem is that I've talked to vets, and they're being told, hey, you've got to do this, the National Veterinary Association says so, so quote through regulations to even get their insurance, they're going to make people to render care do it.
02:54:27.000Now, I had not seen that, but again, people are so All the vets have to do is say, not only no, but hell no.
02:55:02.000Because Bob Barr said on this show, former congressman, member of the NRA board, that Bush tried to get it passed, but he couldn't because we took action, but he used regulations to try to continue to enforce that and other laws.
02:55:15.000He said Bush is just unconstitutionally still trying to enforce a bunch of stuff.